Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

[spurraider21]

According to who? Louise Mensch?

Still, only evidence of collusion is DNC to screw Bernie.what foreign power did the DNC collude with to screw bernie?

[pgardn]

what foreign power did the DNC collude with to screw bernie?

California?

[DarrinS]

Hell, Darrin's trending youtube videos are more trusted than the WH.

roasted

[baseline bum]

:lmao

http://i.imgur.com/LWTii2a.png

[TSA]

865020071932035072 baseline bum Reck

When this is all over im having a toast for you niggas

:lol planning a toast for 2020

[TSA]

Former CIA Director John Brennan sticks up for Trump

President Trump complains repeatedly about leaks in Washington. He’s got a bit of distinguished company.

“What I have found appalling is the number of leaks that have taken place over the last several months,” former CIA Director John Brennan said at the SALT conference in Las Vegas, the annual gathering of hedge-fund managers and other financiers. “This needs to be stopped.” Brennan was CIA director during President Obama’s second term, stepping down in January, when Mike Pompeo replaced him.

Brennan said Trump made a “serious mistake” when he reportedly shared sensitive intelligence with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, in an Oval Office meeting in early May. But this mistake wasn’t sharing intelligence; it was violating the protocol for doing so. “I shared intelligence with the Russians when I was the director of the CIA,” Brennan said. “But you share that through intelligence channels, and you make sure you word it in such as way as to not reveal sources and methods. President Trump didn’t do that.”

Brennan said the press coverage of Trump’s impromptu intelligence reveal was “hyperbolic” and possibly more damaging than anything Trump revealed. “The damage that was done is what was leaked in the aftermath, what was put in the media. The real damage to national security is the leaks.” He suggested, without saying so explicitly, that news accounts revealed more sensitive information than Trump did.

“The real damage to national security is the leaks,” Brennan said. “These individuals who still stay within the government and are leaking this stuff to the press need to be brought to task.”

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/former-cia-director-john-brennan-sticks-trump-174513960.html

[RandomGuy]

“The real damage to national security is the leaks,” Brennan said. “These individuals who still stay within the government and are leaking this stuff to the press need to be brought to task.”

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/former-cia-director-john-brennan-sticks-trump-174513960.html

Trump revealed intelligence secrets to Russians in Oval Office: officials
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-idUSKCN18B2MX

:lol

Those darn leakers.

[RandomGuy]

865150463368364033


[Trumps team had a bunch of meetings to set up a back channel to Russia]

So the fact that there were what has been described as an "unusual" amount of contact between Trumps team and Russian govt officials is consistent with the Steele dossiers assertion.

[RandomGuy]

[Carter paige met with Russian intelligence officials]
Russian Spy Met Trump Adviser Carter Page and Thought He Was an ‘Idiot’
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/04/04/russian-spy-met-trump-adviser-carter-page-and-thought-he-was-an-idiot/

"Male-1" here [pdf version of FBI document]:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/1509332/buryakov-et-al-complaint.pdf

Another bit out of the dossier that ended up being proven out when looked at.

[RandomGuy]

Former Los Angeles Times Moscow correspondent Robert Gillette wrote in an op-ed in the Concord Monitor that the dossier has had at least one of its main factual assertions verified. On January 6, 2017, the Director of National Intelligence released a report assessing "with high confidence" that Russia's combined cyber and propaganda operation was directed personally by Vladimir Putin, with the aim of harming Hillary Clinton's candidacy and helping Trump.[49] Gillette wrote: "Steele's dossier, paraphrasing multiple sources, reported precisely the same conclusion, in greater detail, six months earlier, in a memo dated June 20."[50]

That is some more of what was confirmed by the document.

[RandomGuy]

Now lets look at its shortcomings.

Good place to start is Newsweek article.

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-russia-intelligence-dossier-hacking-541626

[RandomGuy]

1. “Russian regime has been cultivating, supporting and assisting TRUMP for at least 5 years. Aim, endorsed by Putin, has been to encourage splits and divisions in the Western alliance.”

If true, this makes the Russian regime pretty much psychic, since in 2011 there was little hint that Trump would pursue a political career that would take him much further than his campaign to convince Americans that President Barack Obama was not born in the U.S. and therefore was not legally permitted to be president. Five years ago, Trump was recovering from his latest bankruptcy, and concentrating on his reality show The Apprentice and the Miss Universe competition. As for “supporting and assisting” Trump during that time period—indeed Miss Universe was held in a mall in Moscow in 2013. Though Trump later hinted that Putin attended the contest, the Russian President and indeed all top Russian officials stayed home.


While there are some valid critiques to be had, this is not one of them.


since in 2011 there was little hint that Trump would pursue a political career that would take him much further than his campaign to convince Americans that President Barack Obama was not born in the U.S.

Trump ran for president before, and was a vocal critic of Obama. Assisting him and getting people close to him would be a good way to further the interest of undermining liberal democracy.

Intelligence services of all countries develop all manner of potential sources, even though they know some won't pan out. You can't hit a lucky "7" if you don't throw the dice.

[RandomGuy]

2. “So far TRUMP has declined serious sweetheart real estate business deals offered him in Russia…”

Really? If Trump declined the deals, why did he push so hard to meet with Russian business leaders after the Miss Universe competition? And why did he try and fail to push his Trump Tower deal in Moscow and St. Petersburg as late as 2013, as reported in Newsweek?

If I remember correctly, Trump declined offer A, because he was pushing for offer B.

Have to re-read the thing, but Trump didn't get what he wanted, but they offered him some other shit instead. Again, not really a good criticism.

[RandomGuy]

3. “However he and his inner circle have accepted a regular flow of intelligence from the Kremlin, including on Democratic and other political rivals.”

A regular flow of intelligence on Clinton? Such as what exactly? Trump may have coined the “Crooked Hillary” and “Lock Her Up” slogans, in relation to Clinton’s use of a private email server while she was Secretary of State—but there’s no evidence that Trump or his campaign used any kind of secret intelligence in their campaign. The controversial online break-ins at the Democratic National Committee, thought to be the work of two Russian hacking groups, APT 28 and APT 29, were communicated to Wikileaks, not to the Trump campaign. And furthermore, the leaked DNC emails didn’t contain anything particularly explosive or damaging.

"Clinton and other political rivals".
Again, sort of a thin criticism. The author does not address the value of the intelligence. What if what the Russians forked over wasn't really all that valuable?

I would say that I thought Trump appeared well briefed on some of the vulnerabilities of his opponents in the Republican debates. It was one of the few things that he really did well, i.e. harp on some weakness, but that is consistent with simply good organic opposition research.

This particular claim is fairly weak, given it is very hard to prove out. A good lawyer team would scrub any documents, and a good intel officer would make the stuff as hard as possible to track back to its ultimate source.

The interesting thing here is that the dossier specifically says Wikileaks was used to provide plausible deniability to the operation to support Trump. The author of the critique seems oblivious to this.

The assertion is weak, but the author missed the mark.

[RandomGuy]

4. “Former top Russian intelligence officer claims FSB has compromised TRUMP [whose] conduct in Moscow has included perverted sexual acts which have been arranged/monitored by the FSB.”

Fascinating if true. But it also gives rise to a serious question—if Trump has known about the existence of this tape for some time (as the report later alleges), wouldn't it amount to a ticking time bomb under his campaign and his career?


Yes, it would.
As stated before:
Trump cheated on his first wife with a woman who was 10 years younger, then married that mistress.
Trump cheated on his second wife with a woman who was 10 years younger, then married that mistress.
Trump has been accused, by multiple women, of all sorts of sexual assault up to and including rape, and is on tape bragging about such.
Trump has a 20+ year track record of remarks objectifying women.
Russia has a very marked machismo culture for wealthy men, wherein high-priced call girls are essentially a coin of the realm and symbol of power.

This particular bit, taken on its face, is extremely plausible. I will go so far as to say more likely than not.

Trump was in Russia on multiple occassions.
Trump is exactly the kind of guy who would partake.
Russian modus operendi is to record such things.

What exact sex acts would be on the tape: Who knows? Beside the point for me.

[RandomGuy]

5. “A dossier of compromising material on Hillary Clinton has been collated by the Russian intelligence services over many years and mainly comprises bugged conversations she had on various visits to Russia.… However it has not been distributed abroad, including to TRUMP.”

As Secretary of State, Clinton used non-secure communications while in Russia that resulted in “compromising material” being gathered by the FSB? Hard to credit. And the FSB, which was supposedly passing secret information to Trump’s campaign, chose not to share its supposedly compromising material on Clinton? That seems to contradict point 3.

Again, the author misses something important.
"Bugged conversations" is not the same as "non-secure communications [presumably phone calls or emails]

The dossier notes "bugged" as in "covert listening devices".

Not really much to say here, other than the author doesn't seem familiar with the material.

The Steele dossier talks a lot about Russian intelligence dossiers on Clinton and Trump. Giving dribs and drabs about Clinton, but not the full thing doesn't really "contradict point 3". Anything truly sensitive could be given to Wikileaks anyway, to protect source of information.

[RandomGuy]

6. “The dossier is controlled by Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov, directly on Putin’s orders.”
Why would such a dossier be controlled by Peskov, whose job is to talk to the press, when it must have originated with the FSB and/or FAPSI, the federal electronic surveillance service? Peskov is a Kremlin courtier, the charming public face of the regime, not a spy.


Again, the author missed the point. "why?" he asks. "On Putins' orders", that's why. Might not make sense to us, but if something is ordered by Putin within the Russian government, what other reason is needed?

[RandomGuy]

7. “Speaking to a trusted compatriot in June 2016 sources A and B, a senior Russian Foreign Ministry figure and a former top level Russian intelligence officer still active inside the Kremlin…”

Hearsay evidence. These sources may be bone fide—but they’re already at least one degree of separation from the author of the report. He has never even spoken to these top level sources himself.


Best criticism yet, and the most valid TSA's "he was never in country" is a clumsy attempt to get to this.

Gossip does tend to get distorted. But then rumor mills more often than one might realize, produce grains of truth. I have seen this first hand after working in large organizations.

[RandomGuy]

8. “Source A confided that the Kremlin has been feeding TRUMP and his team valuable intelligence on his opponents, including…Clinton, for several years.”
Several years? Those psychic Russians again. Trump announced his candidacy on June 16, 2015. Clinton announced hers on April 12, 2015.


Another invalid critique.

Developing sources and assets does not have to entail any great predictive powers. You develop everything in hopes that something pans out.

[RandomGuy]

9. Source D, “a close associate of TRUMP who had organized and managed his recent trips to Moscow” is cited as as an eyewitness to TRUMP’s “personal obsessions and sexual perversions.” “According to Source D, where s/he had been present, TRUMP’s (perverted) conduct in Moscow included hiring the presidential suite of the Ritz Carlton hotel where he knew that President and Mrs OBAMA (whom he hated) had stayed…and defiling the bed where they had slept by employing a number of prostitutes to perform a ‘golden showers’ (urination) show in front of him. The hotel was known to be under FSB control with microphones and concealed cameras in all the main rooms.”

Leaving aside the allegation itself (which is later supposedly backed up by the testimonies of Sources E, F and B), it’s worth looking at the tortured and borderline non-native syntax of this sentence. Would a native English speaker talk of a hotel being “under FSB control”? That’s a clear Russianism ("pod kontrolem FSB") that may be picked up from the original source—or may suggest that the author isn’t actually a British MI6 agent at all.

Getting down into the weeds. Ironically, the author presents his own speculation as to the reasons behind the phrasing, and provides his own conclusion, when his main critique of the document hinges on doing exactly that in several cases?

Sloppy writing does not always make for bad information. Not enough here to say either way, IMO.

[RandomGuy]

10. The existence of a “Russian dossier or ‘kompromat’ on Hillary Clinton” is confirmed by “Source B…S/he confided in a trusted compatriot that it had been collated by Department K of the FSB for many years.”

This makes no sense. The FSB’s Directorate K is one of the most controversial departments of Russia’s security elite, and its remit translates as “counter intelligence in financial services.” Directorate K has been involved directly and indirectly in some of the dirtiest scandals of recent times—including the plundering of Hermitage Capital and the murder of their lawyer Sergei Magnitsky in 2009. But it has nothing to do with gathering intelligence on foreign leaders—that’s the SVR, the Foreign Intelligence Service, and FAPSI, the electronic eavesdropping department.

Mildly convincing.

Problematic: bureaucratic infighting and turf war is rarely so clear cut, especially in a place like Russia. Our own services squabble over who gets/does what and where. The author does not present anything supporting this.

Also possible: the source may have gotten the two mixed up.

Again, hard to tell if this is a good bit, without a bit more than is provided to evaluate.

[RandomGuy]

11. “Source E, an ethnic Russian close associate of…TRUMP admitted that there was a well-developed conspiracy of co-operation between them and the Russian leadership. This was managed on the TRUMP side by…campaign manager Paul MANAFORT who was using foreign policy adviser Carter Page and others as intermediaries.”

Source E, who is not described in any more detail, is a goldmine of information. He, or she, claims that in exchange for intelligence on their opponents “the TRUMP team had agreed to sideline Russian intervention in Ukraine as a campaign issue and to raise US/NATO defence commitments in the Baltics and Eastern Europe to deflect attention away from Ukraine, a priority for PUTIN who needed to cauterise the subject.” Again, oddly non-native syntax here—and also no mention of the fact that all the Trump men mentioned have been long-standing opponents of sanctions on Russia even before any possible intelligence deal.

This passage hints at the part of the dossier that most interests me, because it outlines WHO was involved.

Every WHO mentioned in this dossier as having contacts with Russians that people have done any digging about has panned out. I care less about grammar, and more about things that can be verified.

The dossier, for all its faults, is the roadmap for the investigation.

[RandomGuy]

I gotta get going.

By the by:

The Dossier itself:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3259984-Trump-Intelligence-Allegations.html



Observers and experts have had varying reactions to the dossier. Generally, "former intelligence officers and other national-security experts" urged "skepticism and caution" but still took "the fact that the nation's top intelligence officials chose to present a summary version of the dossier to both President Obama and President-elect Trump" as an indication "that they may have had a relatively high degree of confidence that at least some of the claims therein were credible, or at least worth investigating further."[41]

Pretty much what I think as well. Worth looking into.

[TSA]

The dossier, for all its faults, is the roadmap for the investigation.

What are your thoughts if I told you that the Steele dossier was paid for by Andrew McCabe/FBI in order to get something to present to the judge in order to get the FISA warrant since their first attempt was shut down? The same Andrew McCabe who is under federal investigation for not recusing himself while leading the Clinton email investigation after it was revealed his wife accepted $700,000 from Clinton allies for her senate bid.

[clambake]

What are your thoughts if I told you that the Steele dossier was paid for by Andrew McCabe/FBI in order to get something to present to the judge in order to get the FISA warrant since their first attempt was shut down? The same Andrew McCabe who is under federal investigation for not recusing himself while leading the Clinton email investigation after it was revealed his wife accepted $700,000 from Clinton allies for her senate bid.

are you saying heads will roll?

[TSA]

are you saying heads will roll?

Those that think Mueller is only looking into the Trump/Russia angle are in for a surprise.

[RandomGuy]

What are your thoughts if I told you that the Steele dossier was paid for by Andrew McCabe/FBI in order to get something to present to the judge in order to get the FISA warrant since their first attempt was shut down? The same Andrew McCabe who is under federal investigation for not recusing himself while leading the Clinton email investigation after it was revealed his wife accepted $700,000 from Clinton allies for her senate bid.

Did McCabe write the dossier? Yes or no.

[RandomGuy]

I suppose I could save some time.

TSA will dissemble and deflect. He knows the answer is no, McCabe did not write the dossier, and has little to no bearing on it.

My thoughts are therefore: It is not really relevant to my consideration of the dossiers veracity. It is relevant if you want to obfuscate and/or deflect bad things that people close to Trump or Trump himself may have done though, which is exactly why you bring it up, as you always do when confronted with shit you can't really tear down that makes your team look bad.

That pattern is one of dishonest intent, and one I find insulting. Piss on my shoes and tell me its raining...

[TSA]

I suppose I could save some time.

TSA will dissemble and deflect. He knows the answer is no, McCabe did not write the dossier, and has little to no bearing on it.

My thoughts are therefore: It is not really relevant to my consideration of the dossiers veracity. It is relevant if you want to obfuscate and/or deflect bad things that people close to Trump or Trump himself may have done though, which is exactly why you bring it up, as you always do when confronted with shit you can't really tear down that makes your team look bad.

That pattern is one of dishonest intent, and one I find insulting. Piss on my shoes and tell me its raining...It's not relevant the #2 at the FBI's wife was paid $700,000 for her senate bid by Clinton allies and for which now the #2 at the FBI is under investigation for?

It's not relevant that the #2 at the FBI paid for a dossier on Trump in order to obtain a FISA warrant that was previously rejected?

It's not relevant this FBI paid for third party dossier was used to justify spying on a Presidential candidate?

[clambake]

I suppose I could save some time.

TSA will dissemble and deflect. He knows the answer is no, McCabe did not write the dossier, and has little to no bearing on it.

My thoughts are therefore: It is not really relevant to my consideration of the dossiers veracity. It is relevant if you want to obfuscate and/or deflect bad things that people close to Trump or Trump himself may have done though, which is exactly why you bring it up, as you always do when confronted with shit you can't really tear down that makes your team look bad.

That pattern is one of dishonest intent, and one I find insulting. Piss on my shoes and tell me its raining...

when you gonna get that tsa is driving a narrative?

[RandomGuy]

when you gonna get that tsa is driving a narrative?

He always is.

I read conservative news feeds, I know what he is told to believe before he parrots it here. :)

[clambake]

He always is.

I read conservative news feeds, I know what he is told to believe before he parrots it here. :)

he's told to get under your skin.

[RandomGuy]

It's not relevant the #2 at the FBI's wife was paid $700,000 for her senate bid by Clinton allies and for which now the #2 at the FBI is under investigation for?

It's not relevant that the #2 at the FBI paid for a dossier on Trump in order to obtain a FISA warrant that was previously rejected?

It's not relevant this FBI paid for third party dossier was used to justify spying on a Presidential candidate?

"Relevant" to considerations of the strength of the dossier's claims:

1. Probably not.
2. No.
3. Restatement of #2.

I think you are overstating the strength of the narrative, even more than you think the left is overstating the dossier.

You have avoided addressing the points the dossier made that turned out to be true.

Most interestingly in the dossier is the tidbit that one of Trumps personal lawyers went to Switzerland to negotiate this back channel (going off memory here). That is something that, if verified, would be pretty hard to ignore, since it is so easily a falsifiable/testable claim. Track the guy's movements would be pretty easy to do for an FBI investigation, should they choose to look.

[RandomGuy]

he's told to get under your skin.

Which he does, I guess.

Rank intellectual dishonesty is one of my pet peeves. It is why I fucking can't stand the likes of Cosmored.

[clambake]

Which he does, I guess.

Rank intellectual dishonesty is one of my pet peeves. It is why I fucking can't stand the likes of Cosmored.

we live in a magical time, friend.

all you have to do is agree to believe.

[RandomGuy]

he's told to get under your skin.

Although, even that is a good learning opportunity. One should always evaluate underlying assumptions, always. Cognitive dissonance always expresses itself through irritation, so when I get angry I tend to step back and think a bit about possibly missing something.

In this case though, the attempt at building a narrative that is plausible pablum for the converted is becoming a bit more obvious as time goes by. Welcome to the brave new world.

[RandomGuy]

we live in a magical time, friend.

all you have to do is agree to believe.

Eyup. One has to use the baloney detection kit.

[RandomGuy]

Wherever possible there must be independent confirmation of the “facts.”
Encourage substantive debate on the evidence by knowledgeable proponents of all points of view.
Arguments from authority carry little weight — “authorities” have made mistakes in the past. They will do so again in the future. Perhaps a better way to say it is that in science there are no authorities; at most, there are experts.
Spin more than one hypothesis. If there’s something to be explained, think of all the different ways in which it could be explained. Then think of tests by which you might systematically disprove each of the alternatives. What survives, the hypothesis that resists disproof in this Darwinian selection among “multiple working hypotheses,” has a much better chance of being the right answer than if you had simply run with the first idea that caught your fancy.
Try not to get overly attached to a hypothesis just because it’s yours. It’s only a way station in the pursuit of knowledge. Ask yourself why you like the idea. Compare it fairly with the alternatives. See if you can find reasons for rejecting it. If you don’t, others will.
Quantify. If whatever it is you’re explaining has some measure, some numerical quantity attached to it, you’ll be much better able to discriminate among competing hypotheses. What is vague and qualitative is open to many explanations. Of course there are truths to be sought in the many qualitative issues we are obliged to confront, but finding them is more challenging.
If there’s a chain of argument, every link in the chain must work (including the premise) — not just most of them.
Occam’s Razor. This convenient rule-of-thumb urges us when faced with two hypotheses that explain the data equally well to choose the simpler.
Always ask whether the hypothesis can be, at least in principle, falsified. Propositions that are untestable, unfalsifiable are not worth much. Consider the grand idea that our Universe and everything in it is just an elementary particle — an electron, say — in a much bigger Cosmos. But if we can never acquire information from outside our Universe, is not the idea incapable of disproof? You must be able to check assertions out. Inveterate skeptics must be given the chance to follow your reasoning, to duplicate your experiments and see if they get the same result.

[RandomGuy]

He admonishes against the twenty most common and perilous ones — many rooted in our chronic discomfort with ambiguity — with examples of each in action:

ad hominem — Latin for “to the man,” attacking the arguer and not the argument (e.g., The Reverend Dr. Smith is a known Biblical fundamentalist, so her objections to evolution need not be taken seriously)
argument from authority (e.g., President Richard Nixon should be re-elected because he has a secret plan to end the war in Southeast Asia — but because it was secret, there was no way for the electorate to evaluate it on its merits; the argument amounted to trusting him because he was President: a mistake, as it turned out)
argument from adverse consequences (e.g., A God meting out punishment and reward must exist, because if He didn’t, society would be much more lawless and dangerous — perhaps even ungovernable. Or: The defendant in a widely publicized murder trial must be found guilty; otherwise, it will be an encouragement for other men to murder their wives)
appeal to ignorance — the claim that whatever has not been proved false must be true, and vice versa (e.g., There is no compelling evidence that UFOs are not visiting the Earth; therefore UFOs exist — and there is intelligent life elsewhere in the Universe. Or: There may be seventy kazillion other worlds, but not one is known to have the moral advancement of the Earth, so we’re still central to the Universe.) This impatience with ambiguity can be criticized in the phrase: absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
special pleading, often to rescue a proposition in deep rhetorical trouble (e.g., How can a merciful God condemn future generations to torment because, against orders, one woman induced one man to eat an apple? Special plead: you don’t understand the subtle Doctrine of Free Will. Or: How can there be an equally godlike Father, Son, and Holy Ghost in the same Person? Special plead: You don’t understand the Divine Mystery of the Trinity. Or: How could God permit the followers of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam — each in their own way enjoined to heroic measures of loving kindness and compassion — to have perpetrated so much cruelty for so long? Special plead: You don’t understand Free Will again. And anyway, God moves in mysterious ways.)
begging the question, also called assuming the answer (e.g., We must institute the death penalty to discourage violent crime. But does the violent crime rate in fact fall when the death penalty is imposed? Or: The stock market fell yesterday because of a technical adjustment and profit-taking by investors — but is there any independent evidence for the causal role of “adjustment” and profit-taking; have we learned anything at all from this purported explanation?)
observational selection, also called the enumeration of favorable circumstances, or as the philosopher Francis Bacon described it, counting the hits and forgetting the misses (e.g., A state boasts of the Presidents it has produced, but is silent on its serial killers)
statistics of small numbers — a close relative of observational selection (e.g., “They say 1 out of every 5 people is Chinese. How is this possible? I know hundreds of people, and none of them is Chinese. Yours truly.” Or: “I’ve thrown three sevens in a row. Tonight I can’t lose.”)
misunderstanding of the nature of statistics (e.g., President Dwight Eisenhower expressing astonishment and alarm on discovering that fully half of all Americans have below average intelligence);
inconsistency (e.g., Prudently plan for the worst of which a potential military adversary is capable, but thriftily ignore scientific projections on environmental dangers because they’re not “proved.” Or: Attribute the declining life expectancy in the former Soviet Union to the failures of communism many years ago, but never attribute the high infant mortality rate in the United States (now highest of the major industrial nations) to the failures of capitalism. Or: Consider it reasonable for the Universe to continue to exist forever into the future, but judge absurd the possibility that it has infinite duration into the past);
non sequitur — Latin for “It doesn’t follow” (e.g., Our nation will prevail because God is great. But nearly every nation pretends this to be true; the German formulation was “Gott mit uns”). Often those falling into the non sequitur fallacy have simply failed to recognize alternative possibilities;
post hoc, ergo propter hoc — Latin for “It happened after, so it was caused by” (e.g., Jaime Cardinal Sin, Archbishop of Manila: “I know of … a 26-year-old who looks 60 because she takes [contraceptive] pills.” Or: Before women got the vote, there were no nuclear weapons)
meaningless question (e.g., What happens when an irresistible force meets an immovable object? But if there is such a thing as an irresistible force there can be no immovable objects, and vice versa)
excluded middle, or false dichotomy — considering only the two extremes in a continuum of intermediate possibilities (e.g., “Sure, take his side; my husband’s perfect; I’m always wrong.” Or: “Either you love your country or you hate it.” Or: “If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem”)
short-term vs. long-term — a subset of the excluded middle, but so important I’ve pulled it out for special attention (e.g., We can’t afford programs to feed malnourished children and educate pre-school kids. We need to urgently deal with crime on the streets. Or: Why explore space or pursue fundamental science when we have so huge a budget deficit?);
slippery slope, related to excluded middle (e.g., If we allow abortion in the first weeks of pregnancy, it will be impossible to prevent the killing of a full-term infant. Or, conversely: If the state prohibits abortion even in the ninth month, it will soon be telling us what to do with our bodies around the time of conception);
confusion of correlation and causation (e.g., A survey shows that more college graduates are homosexual than those with lesser education; therefore education makes people gay. Or: Andean earthquakes are correlated with closest approaches of the planet Uranus; therefore — despite the absence of any such correlation for the nearer, more massive planet Jupiter — the latter causes the former)
straw man — caricaturing a position to make it easier to attack (e.g., Scientists suppose that living things simply fell together by chance — a formulation that willfully ignores the central Darwinian insight, that Nature ratchets up by saving what works and discarding what doesn’t. Or — this is also a short-term/long-term fallacy — environmentalists care more for snail darters and spotted owls than they do for people)
suppressed evidence, or half-truths (e.g., An amazingly accurate and widely quoted “prophecy” of the assassination attempt on President Reagan is shown on television; but — an important detail — was it recorded before or after the event? Or: These government abuses demand revolution, even if you can’t make an omelette without breaking some eggs. Yes, but is this likely to be a revolution in which far more people are killed than under the previous regime? What does the experience of other revolutions suggest? Are all revolutions against oppressive regimes desirable and in the interests of the people?)
weasel words (e.g., The separation of powers of the U.S. Constitution specifies that the United States may not conduct a war without a declaration by Congress. On the other hand, Presidents are given control of foreign policy and the conduct of wars, which are potentially powerful tools for getting themselves re-elected. Presidents of either political party may therefore be tempted to arrange wars while waving the flag and calling the wars something else — “police actions,” “armed incursions,” “protective reaction strikes,” “pacification,” “safeguarding American interests,” and a wide variety of “operations,” such as “Operation Just Cause.” Euphemisms for war are one of a broad class of reinventions of language for political purposes. Talleyrand said, “An important art of politicians is to find new names for institutions which under old names have become odious to the public”)

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[RandomGuy]

we live in a magical time, friend.

all you have to do is agree to believe.

So let's see if TSA's hypothesis can be falsified, a key element.


It's not relevant the #2 at the FBI's wife was paid $700,000 for her senate bid by Clinton allies and for which now the #2 at the FBI is under investigation for?

It's not relevant that the #2 at the FBI paid for a dossier on Trump in order to obtain a FISA warrant that was previously rejected?

It's not relevant this FBI paid for third party dossier was used to justify spying on a Presidential candidate?

To paraphrase (I will have to fill in the blanks a bit, TSA is free to correct anything I get wrong, this is my best stab):

The dossier's credibility is impaired because the #2 guy at the FBI paid for something that was specifically damaging, in order to get a FISA warrant that was previously rejected for the sole purpose of furthering a politically motivated plot. He did it because his wife received $500,000 in campaign donations from someone described as a Clinton ally, on a quid pro quo basis, and most definitely not because there was actually anything wrong.

Ultimately, this fails a very basic test.

It relies on an ad hominem logical fallacy.

"The dossier's claims have to be rejected, because the guy who authorized the FBI to pay for it is doing so out of political animus".

The dossiers claims rise or fall on their own, regardless of the original motivation.

At most, if true, it would simply cause one to be a tad more skeptical.

I say "if true" because I haven't seen any evidence that the motivation was purely political, merely a lot of insinuation.

[djohn2oo8]

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[Trill Clinton]

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[TSA]

"Relevant" to considerations of the strength of the dossier's claims:

1. Probably not.
2. No.
3. Restatement of #2.

I think you are overstating the strength of the narrative, even more than you think the left is overstating the dossier.

You have avoided addressing the points the dossier made that turned out to be true.

Most interestingly in the dossier is the tidbit that one of Trumps personal lawyers went to Switzerland to negotiate this back channel (going off memory here). That is something that, if verified, would be pretty hard to ignore, since it is so easily a falsifiable/testable claim. Track the guy's movements would be pretty easy to do for an FBI investigation, should they choose to look.

No one is discussing the dossier anymore except you. Even CNN has given up reporting on it.

I take offense to your earlier comment saying I have dishonest intent as that is just plain false. You may not agree with takes but I assure you I am being honest with my opinions and am not trying to mislead you in any way.

McCabe owed the DNC a favor. I believe McCabe paid for the dossier already knowing Carter Page had Russian contacts from his work in Moscow 10 years ago, and McCabe knew that this fact alone would allow the judge to issue a FISA warrant so the FBI could legally run surveillance on Trump's team. Obama loosened the rules for unmasking on his way and Susan Rice liberally disseminated all that was found to members of the WH/DNC to use to try and take Trump out. It didn't work and now we are seeing the intelligence community and Obama holdovers scramble in an attempt to try and cover up what happened.

I look forward to having my theory proven correct.

[TSA]

Wherever possible there must be independent confirmation of the “facts.”
Encourage substantive debate on the evidence by knowledgeable proponents of all points of view.
Arguments from authority carry little weight — “authorities” have made mistakes in the past. They will do so again in the future. Perhaps a better way to say it is that in science there are no authorities; at most, there are experts.
Spin more than one hypothesis. If there’s something to be explained, think of all the different ways in which it could be explained. Then think of tests by which you might systematically disprove each of the alternatives. What survives, the hypothesis that resists disproof in this Darwinian selection among “multiple working hypotheses,” has a much better chance of being the right answer than if you had simply run with the first idea that caught your fancy.
Try not to get overly attached to a hypothesis just because it’s yours. It’s only a way station in the pursuit of knowledge. Ask yourself why you like the idea. Compare it fairly with the alternatives. See if you can find reasons for rejecting it. If you don’t, others will.
Quantify. If whatever it is you’re explaining has some measure, some numerical quantity attached to it, you’ll be much better able to discriminate among competing hypotheses. What is vague and qualitative is open to many explanations. Of course there are truths to be sought in the many qualitative issues we are obliged to confront, but finding them is more challenging.
If there’s a chain of argument, every link in the chain must work (including the premise) — not just most of them.
Occam’s Razor. This convenient rule-of-thumb urges us when faced with two hypotheses that explain the data equally well to choose the simpler.
Always ask whether the hypothesis can be, at least in principle, falsified. Propositions that are untestable, unfalsifiable are not worth much. Consider the grand idea that our Universe and everything in it is just an elementary particle — an electron, say — in a much bigger Cosmos. But if we can never acquire information from outside our Universe, is not the idea incapable of disproof? You must be able to check assertions out. Inveterate skeptics must be given the chance to follow your reasoning, to duplicate your experiments and see if they get the same result.


Some good advice that you should also apply to your failing Trump/Russia collusion theory.

[Trill Clinton]

djohn2oo8!!!! http://i64.tinypic.com/2dih9pz.png
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[TSA]

So let's see if TSA's hypothesis can be falsified, a key element.



To paraphrase (I will have to fill in the blanks a bit, TSA is free to correct anything I get wrong, this is my best stab):

The dossier's credibility is impaired because the #2 guy at the FBI paid for something that was specifically damaging, in order to get a FISA warrant that was previously rejected for the sole purpose of furthering a politically motivated plot. He did it because his wife received $500,000 in campaign donations from someone described as a Clinton ally, on a quid pro quo basis, and most definitely not because there was actually anything wrong.

Ultimately, this fails a very basic test.

It relies on an ad hominem logical fallacy.

"The dossier's claims have to be rejected, because the guy who authorized the FBI to pay for it is doing so out of political animus".

The dossiers claims rise or fall on their own, regardless of the original motivation.

At most, if true, it would simply cause one to be a tad more skeptical.

I say "if true" because I haven't seen any evidence that the motivation was purely political, merely a lot of insinuation.

My points above weren't to question the dossier's credibility but to look at the bigger picture. I've already told you why I found the dossier was lacking credibility which you seemed to agree with me on some points.

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[Adam Lambert]

he's told to get under your skin.

bullshit

the trolls he uses as his primary news source are trying to get under libs skin

hes too dumb to realize that and actually thinks its real

[TSA]

djohn you seem pretty excited. You ready to put your account that should already be terminated back on the line? (:lol Jeff Session obstruction of justice charge)

[Adam Lambert]

isnt it weird how tsa, the russian govt and sean hannity are pushing the same seth rich conspiracy really hard right now?

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weird huh

[boutons_deux]

isnt it weird how tsa, the russian govt and sean hannity are pushing the same seth rich conspiracy really hard right now?

weird huh

not weird, absolutely standard desperation deflection move as Fox/Hannity's PVL so-called Pres self-destructs, taking down his entourage.

[djohn2oo8]

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[baseline bum]

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So Sessions probably?

[TSA]

isnt it weird how tsa, the russian govt and sean hannity are pushing the same seth rich conspiracy really hard right now?

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weird huh

News story about Seth Rich contacting Wikileaks came out an hour before the WaPo story on Trump talking to the Russian ambassador. You've got who's trying to bury what backwards.

[TSA]

djohn you seem pretty excited. You ready to put your account that should already be terminated back on the line? (:lol Jeff Session obstruction of justice charge)

[Adam Lambert]

News story about Seth Rich contacting Wikileaks came out an hour before the WaPo story on Trump talking to the Russian ambassador. You've got who's trying to bury what backwards.

idiot. I didnt even say anything about covering up. whats weird is youre peddling the same infowars bullshit as russia. and so is sean 4channity.

when are you going to realize how played you are? youre a puppet, except instead of a hand you have putins dick up your ass controlling everything you say.

lol

[TSA]

idiot. I didnt even say anything about covering up. whats weird is youre peddling the same infowars bullshit as russia. and so is sean 4channity.

when are you going to realize how played you are? youre a puppet, except instead of a hand you have putins dick up your ass controlling everything you say.

lol

idiot. I never said anything about covering up.

WaPo attempted to bury the Seth Rich story by running the Trump talking to the ambassador story. Same thing happened when the Wikileaks emails dropped and the Trump pussy tape was released immediately following.

:lol calling someone a puppet while pushing the Russian conspiracy theory and regurgitating MSM taking points.

[boutons_deux]

CNN: Russian Officials ‘Bragged’ About Using Flynn to Influence Trump

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-russian-officials-bragged-about-using-flynn-to-influence-trump/

[djohn2oo8]

So Sessions probably?

Kushner.

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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lol donnie. Comey about to snatch ya nuts up and use them for dice.

[djohn2oo8]

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[DarrinS]

If you don't get him, it's going to be a huge blow to Dems and MSM. They are both "all in" at this point.

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[DarrinS]

djohn_mensch furiously fapping

[djohn2oo8]

djohn_mensch furiously fapping

The self permaban will look nice on you.

[baseline bum]

Wow Cuckner would have been one of my last guesses.

[djohn2oo8]

Wow Cuckner would have been one of my last guesses.

The whole Trump family besides Tiffany and Barron are knee deep in this shit.

[baseline bum]

If you don't get him, it's going to be a huge blow to Dems and MSM. They are both "all in" at this point.

Why does the GOP seem to want to go down with the ship for a con-man who was a life-long Democrat until he found birtherism and then stole his new party from the conservatives?

[djohn2oo8]

Why does the GOP seem to want to go down with the ship for a con-man who was a life-long Democrat until he found birtherism and then stole his new party from the conservatives?

Alot of them are being blackmailed by Russia because they took money. When this is over the GOP will be no more.

[baseline bum]

Alot of them are being blackmailed by Russia because they took money. When this is over the GOP will be no more.

That's a ridiculous stretch.

[djohn2oo8]

That's a ridiculous stretch.

Comey confirmed Russians hacked the RNC but did not release info on them. They have the GOP by the balls.

[Reck]

If you don't get him, it's going to be a huge blow to Dems and MSM. They are both "all in" at this point.

True. It will be a huge fucking blow.

I'm confident that he will not last his whole term regardless though. He's too weak and thin skinned.

[djohn2oo8]

True. It will be a huge fucking blow.

I'm confident that he will not last his whole term regardless though. He's too weak and thin skinned.

lol He is already gotten. He is fucked so is his administration when he fired Comey.

[AaronY]

Why does the GOP seem to want to go down with the ship for a con-man who was a life-long Democrat until he found birtherism and then stole his new party from the conservatives?
You're asking the wrong man since Darrin shit on Trump literally all of 2016 and now is his #1 semen shield. Maybe ask someone like Cosmic Cowboy who's even 1% objective about Trump at this point.

[benefactor]

You're asking the wrong man since Darrin shit on Trump literally all of 2016 and now is his #1 semen shield. Maybe ask someone like Cosmic Cowboy who's even 1% objective about Trump at this point.
Sup breh...I need some guidance on heavy benching. Been stuck around 350 for a bit and I want to break through and get over 400. Advice?

[ducks]

NAVY SEAL CALLS BS LIVE ON CNN – WATCH AS LIBERAL ANCHOR COMPLETELY FLIPS OUT (VIDEO)


https://reagancoalition.com/articles/2017/navy-seal-calls-bs-live-cnn-watch-liberal-anchor-completely-flips-video.html?utm_source=fn1-2

[baseline bum]

Nobody eats more shit than Mike Pence :lmao

v-bDYC9QAZY

[da_suns_fan]

Why does the GOP seem to want to go down with the ship for a con-man who was a life-long Democrat until he found birtherism and then stole his new party from the conservatives?

Not sure. You'd think they'd realize with Pence they'd get the same blank check to do whatever they want sans the hot mess.

[baseline bum]

Not sure. You'd think they'd realize with Pence they'd get the same blank check to do whatever they want sans the hot mess.

They'd get a better check since Pence is actually qualified to get shit done in Washington when his party controls both congress and the supreme court.

[BanditHiro]

Not sure. You'd think they'd realize with Pence they'd get the same blank check to do whatever they want sans the hot mess.

they know the shit they are trying to pass is awful but with Trump, they could pass blame on him and because he was an outsider, it will reflect less harshly on the GOP at least to their base.

[AaronY]

Sup breh...I need some guidance on heavy benching. Been stuck around 350 for a bit and I want to break through and get over 400. Advice?
I dunno tbh. Never concentrated on bench I have really long arms and could never get more than 410 which I did in college when I weighed 280. 410 sounds like a humblebrag but it's really not that much for someone of that weight tbh. Now I don't ever try to max out. Do like 315 3x6-8.

[baseline bum]

So who do you think the major leaker is in Trump's White House? MSNBC is claiming the leaks go really high in his team. So is it Pence? I can't imagine it could be Bannon, as the media would certainly have to suspect it as disinformation then. I doubt Cuckner would turn on his meal ticket. Same for Ivanka. It can't be Sessions, since Trump is everything Sessions could possibly want when it comes to social policy. It's gotta be Pence, right?

[djohn2oo8]

So who do you think the major leaker is in Trump's White House? MSNBC is claiming the leaks go really high in his team. So is it Pence? I can't imagine it could be Bannon, as the media would certainly have to suspect it as disinformation then. I doubt Cuckner would turn on his meal ticket. Same for Ivanka. It can't be Sessions, since Trump is everything Sessions could possibly want when it comes to social policy. It's gotta be Pence, right?

Pence is definitely leaking to try and save himself but it could be Bannon too since Trump neutered his ass.

[djohn2oo8]

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:lmao haha

[baseline bum]

Pence is definitely leaking to try and save himself but it could be Bannon too since Trump neutered his ass.

I can't imagine anyone in the media would take seriously anything from Bannon. If the source is Bannon then Trump is just trolling the media with disinformation. It would actually be pretty god damn hilarious if that's it. It's gotta be Pence.

[boutons_deux]

“With news like this I’m beginning to wonder why Trump ran in the first place and if he really cares about the country,”

a senior staffer, who must be trying out material for his standup special, told the Daily Beast.

“I miss candidate Trump. :lol :lol

Now he’s just a pathetic mess.”


http://www.salon.com/2017/05/20/trumps-staff-are-a-bunch-of-special-snowflakes-who-deserve-no-pity_partner/

Missing the candidate Trash is confessing to idiocy.

PVL so-called Pres Trash is exactly the same as candidate Trash.

dear "senior staffer", Trash's campaign show was a pathetic, repulsive mess

[Will Hunting]

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:lmao haha

McConnell always has that "My wife cheats on me with multiple black men at the same time" look on his face.

[pgardn]

I can't imagine anyone in the media would take seriously anything from Bannon. If the source is Bannon then Trump is just trolling the media with disinformation. It would actually be pretty god damn hilarious if that's it. It's gotta be Pence.

There were Russians in the room as well on the latest round. One can't just assume they want Trump in office. Also people keep notes and have spouses. Only looking for people in the room with an axe to grind or looking for self preservation is shortsighted IMO. Reading history on these types of things has often found very innocent blunders. People want to focus on deep throated voices in garages after Nixon. The president himself can't hold back he is so impulsive, and he has an extended family of advisors he confides in.

[DarrinS]

Smh


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThQIZtlPzBk

[djohn2oo8]

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lol the rats turning on each other

[Fabbs]

NAVY SEAL CALLS BS LIVE ON CNN – WATCH AS LIBERAL ANCHOR COMPLETELY FLIPS OUT (VIDEO)


https://reagancoalition.com/articles/2017/navy-seal-calls-bs-live-cnn-watch-liberal-anchor-completely-flips-video.html?utm_source=fn1-2
smh then the black homo joins in.

[djohn2oo8]

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[DarrinS]

Why does the GOP seem to want to go down with the ship for a con-man who was a life-long Democrat until he found birtherism and then stole his new party from the conservatives?

Seems to me like a lot of them have been trying to stay far away from the shitstorm.

[DarrinS]

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For someone who supposedly sleeps 4 hours per night, this is shocking.

[DarrinS]

NAVY SEAL CALLS BS LIVE ON CNN – WATCH AS LIBERAL ANCHOR COMPLETELY FLIPS OUT (VIDEO)


https://reagancoalition.com/articles/2017/navy-seal-calls-bs-live-cnn-watch-liberal-anchor-completely-flips-video.html?utm_source=fn1-2


I love how she clapped in his face. :lol

[baseline bum]

Seems to me like a lot of them have been trying to stay far away from the shitstorm.

They should have appointed a special prosecutor if they wanted to distance themselves from the conman in chief. And I'm talking about GOP voters too. I don't understand the loyalty to Trump.

[Adam Lambert]

idiot. I never said anything about covering up.

WaPo attempted to bury the Seth Rich story by running the Trump talking to the ambassador story. Same thing happened when the Wikileaks emails dropped and the Trump pussy tape was released immediately following.

:lol calling someone a puppet while pushing the Russian conspiracy theory and regurgitating MSM taking points.

theres no story to bury unless youre getting direction from russia like hannity and the russian shitposters you worship. idiot.

the existence of russian trolls and the tweet by the russian embassy arent conspiracy theories, they are proven facts. idiot.

idiot.

[AaronY]

Alot of them are being blackmailed by Russia because they took money. When this is over the GOP will be no more.
Lol.

[djohn2oo8]

Lol.

Because there was no collusion right? Oh wait...:lol

[Monostradamus]

Because there was no collusion right? Oh wait...:lol
Taking down Trump is within the realm of possibility, but not the entire GOP. They're basically a Too Big To Fail organization in America. I doubt any Democrats even want that, they're rivals in public only.

[djohn2oo8]

Taking down Trump is within the realm of possibility, but not the entire GOP. They're basically a Too Big To Fail organization in America. I doubt any Democrats even want that, they're rivals in public only.

Alot of GOP were caught on tape by Evan McMullin. US Treasury Center for financial crimes has receipts of the money laundering...Plenty of people going down.

[djohn2oo8]

lol Ted dropping hints

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[baseline bum]

Alot of GOP were caught on tape by Evan McMullin.

Link?

[Will Hunting]

Taking down Trump is within the realm of possibility, but not the entire GOP. They're basically a Too Big To Fail organization in America. I doubt any Democrats even want that, they're rivals in public only.
This...theres too much money flowing towards GOP candidates/ideals for it to ever die, the best example being 2008. A Republican president had just run the country into the ground and the GOP wanted to make Sarah fucking Palin a Vice President, but all the Koch Brothers needed to do was pour some money into a "tea party" and make it look like a genuine grassroots movement for the GOPs base to be more crazy and extreme than ever about how cutting taxes for rich people would solve all of the worlds problems.

[djohn2oo8]

Link?

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[djohn2oo8]

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[benefactor]

The GOP isn't going anywhere. The strength of the government lies in keeping the people divided...and both sides know it...especially now with most of the country fed up with our leaders.

[djohn2oo8]

The GOP isn't going anywhere. The strength of the government lies in keeping the people divided...and both sides know it...especially now with most of the country fed up with our leaders.

Their whole party is treasonous and this is very unprecented. Just watch. That FBI raid on that GOP firm. Will Royally fuck them.

[Will Hunting]

Their whole party is treasonous and this is very unprecented. Just watch. That FBI raid on that GOP firm. Will Royally fuck them.
Today's GOP isn't any more treasonous than the GW Bush GOP that started a $2 trillion war for the purpose of giving Halliburton no-bid government contracts. If that didn't kill the GOP nothing will.

[Reck]

How many people with Russian ties does this orange faggot have? Jesus.

[djohn2oo8]

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lol what a dumpster fire.

[benefactor]

Today's GOP isn't any more treasonous than the GW Bush GOP that started a $2 trillion war for the purpose of giving Halliburton no-bid government contracts. If that didn't kill the GOP nothing will.
Exactly. Both sides will push the envelope and piss the other one off but at the end of the day they need each other to keep the oligarchy intact.

[AaronY]

Their whole party is treasonous and this is very unprecented. Just watch. That FBI raid on that GOP firm. Will Royally fuck them.
Lol. RIP GOP. You had a good run.

[boutons_deux]

Lol. RIP GOP. You had a good run.

the corporatocracy/oligarchy runs the country now, Repug gerrymandering, voter suppression, Christian Taliban give Repugs a lock on Congress.

VRWC SCOTUS' C-U and gutting VRA were finals nails in the coffin.

America is fucked and fuckable, in permanent decline.

[AaronY]

What do you do for a living, boutons?

[benefactor]

What do you do for a living, boutons?
I lean towards trust fund kid that doesn't have to work. Just sits at home and rages on political sites all day

[boutons_deux]

Inside Russia’s Social Media War on America

The report said the Russians had sent expertly tailored messages carrying malware to more than 10,000 Twitter users in the Defense Department.

Depending on the interests of the targets, the messages offered links to stories on recent sporting events or the Oscars, which had taken place the previous weekend.

When clicked, the links took users to a Russian-controlled server that downloaded a program allowing Moscow's hackers to take control of the victim's phone or computer--and Twitter account.

As they scrambled to contain the damage from the hack and regain control of any compromised devices, the spy hunters realized they faced a new kind of threat.

In 2016, Russia had used thousands of covert human agents and robot computer programs to spread disinformation referencing the stolen campaign emails of Hillary Clinton, amplifying their effect.

Now counterintelligence officials wondered: What chaos could Moscow unleash with thousands of Twitter handles that spoke in real time with the authority of the armed forces of the United States?

At any given moment, perhaps during a natural disaster or a terrorist attack, Pentagon Twitter accounts might send out false information.

As each tweet corroborated another, and covert Russian agents amplified the messages even further afield, the result could be panic and confusion.

Marrying a hundred years of expertise in influence operations to the new world of social media, Russia may finally have gained the ability it long sought but never fully achieved in the Cold War:

to alter the course of events in the U.S. by manipulating public opinion.

http://time.com/4783932/inside-russia-social-media-war-america/?curator=MediaREDEF

CIA's subversive Radio Free Europe gets paid back with Russia's "Internet-Pranked USA".

[Will Hunting]

I lean towards trust fund kid that doesn't have to work. Just sits at home and rages on political sites all day
I think he actually hinted once that he's a trust fund babbeh

[djohn2oo8]

866300057674559489
Chaffetz blinking furiously during that segment.

[DarrinS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aypl2aFlT8w

[djohn2oo8]

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lol McMaster. Last week you said it was "wholly appropriate"

[boutons_deux]

repugs gonna impeach and convict Trash? not likely, no matter how totally he deserves it, along with his equally guilty entourage

Repugs are long past giving the tiniest fuck about law, ethics, morals, govt, environment, science, truth, USA.

Their overriding priority, as dictated by BigDonor, is enabling/protecting/enriching their BigDonor and themselves

[djohn2oo8]

repugs gonna impeach and convict Trash? not likely, no matter how totally he deserves it, along with his equally guilty entourage

Repugs are long past giving the tiniest fuck about law, ethics, morals, govt, environment, science, truth, USA.

Their overriding priority, as dictated by BigDonor, is enabling/protecting/enriching their BigDonor and themselves

No choice. There are tapes and they won't be able to ignore it.

[TSA]

Their whole party is treasonous and this is very unprecented. Just watch. That FBI raid on that GOP firm. Will Royally fuck them.

Please tell us how an FBI raid on the Strategic Campaign Group firm for their involvement in the 2013 Virginia gubernatorial election is going to bring down the GOP :lmao

[TSA]

No choice. There are tapes and they won't be able to ignore it.

I'd ask you for a link but I see baseline bum already did and you failed :lol

[TSA]

djohn2oo8 :lmao


Sources further say that the Supreme Court notified Mr. Trump that the formal process of a case of impeachment against him was begun, before he departed the country on Air Force One. The notification was given, as part of the formal process of the matter, in order that Mr. Trump knew he was not able to use his powers of pardon against other suspects in Trump-Russia cases. Sources have confirmed that the Marshal of the Supreme Court spoke to Mr. Trump.

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[TSA]

Vox shooting on Mensch, Schindler, and Taylor :lol

Democrats are falling for fake news on Russia

https://www.vox.com/world/2017/5/19/15561842/trump-russia-louise-mensch

[baseline bum]

Louise Mensch is such a fucking cancer. I never even bothered to read anything by Taylor since he works with her.

[AaronY]

Mensch is pretty hot though. The big cheekbones thing she got going is kind of cute even tho it's a little weird looking

[spurraider21]

Mensch is pretty hot though. The big cheekbones thing she got going is kind of cute even tho it's a little weird lookingdat hot/crazy matrix tho

[Adam Lambert]

Vox shooting on Mensch, Schindler, and Taylor :lol

Democrats are falling for fake news on Russia

https://www.vox.com/world/2017/5/19/15561842/trump-russia-louise-mensch

hey why dont you post some more from jack posebiec and alex jones?

i know ann coulters a favorite of yours too

[boutons_deux]

No choice. There are tapes and they won't be able to ignore it.

i bet they wont get enough House votes to pass the articles, and Repug voters, esp Trash's 40%, wont GAF

Tapes? Repugs are post -truth, post-evidence, and scared to shit of BigDonor

[TSA]

hey why dont you post some more from jack posebiec and alex jones?

i know ann coulters a favorite of yours too

if you're going to deflect at least pick some people I actually link to

[AaronY]

hey why dont you post some more from jack posebiec and alex jones?

i know ann coulters a favorite of yours too
Eye no rite?

Pizzagate boy making fun of conspiracy nuts haha whoa

[Adam Lambert]

if you're going to deflect at least pick some people I actually link to


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http://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327183/IMG-9045-210565.JPG


im not going to bother finding an alex jones tweet because your entire pizzagate thread is alex jones.

so what were you saying?

[TSA]

im not going to bother finding an alex jones tweet because your entire pizzagate thread is alex jones.

so what were you saying?

you already looked for an Alex jones post but couldn't find one. Congrats on finding the only time I linked to either Jack or Ann.

Now do you want to discuss the Vox article or just deflect more?

[Adam Lambert]

you already looked for an Alex jones post but couldn't find one. Congrats on finding the only time I linked to either Jack or Ann.

so you go from claiming you never link them to :cry it was only once :cry. lol

everyone knows youre an infowars nutbag. lol at you calling scoreboard


Now do you want to discuss the Vox article or just deflect more?

discuss what? that the left has its own versions of the retards you spend hours a day reading? why would anyone want or need to have that conversation with you, pizzaboy?

[TSA]

so you go from claiming you never link them to :cry it was only once :cry. lol

everyone knows youre an infowars nutbag. lol at you calling scoreboard



discuss what? that the left has its own versions of the retards you spend hours a day reading? why would anyone want or need to have that conversation with you, pizzaboy?

Don't be upset you could only find 1 post from 2 of the 3 you claimed.

If you don't want a conversation with me I'd suggest you stop following me around and quoting me every day asking questions.

[Will Hunting]

:lol Flynn reportedly going to invoke the 5th amendment

[RandomGuy]

Some good advice that you should also apply to your failing Trump/Russia collusion theory.

Indeed I should.

Why don't you try? It might do us both good.

[RandomGuy]

Exactly. Both sides will push the envelope and piss the other one off but at the end of the day they need each other to keep the oligarchy intact.

More true than many would admit to.

[RandomGuy]

Not sure. You'd think they'd realize with Pence they'd get the same blank check to do whatever they want sans the hot mess.

That is also a pretty good point, although when Trump goes down in flames (insert Hindenburg graphic with Trumps face on it here) the most likely effect is a Democratic congress, or at the very least one with a far slimmer margin for the GOP.

[monosylab1k]

:lol Flynn reportedly going to invoke the 5th amendment

:lmao I love how it's being spun as :cry he's just so loyal to Trump :cry great fuckin man :cry

[RandomGuy]

Vox shooting on Mensch, Schindler, and Taylor :lol

Democrats are falling for fake news on Russia

https://www.vox.com/world/2017/5/19/15561842/trump-russia-louise-mensch

Below is an attempt to catalogue the more clear-cut examples of conflicts of interest that have emerged so far. The most recent entries appear at the top:

That Tower in Toronto
That Caribbean Villa
Those Condos for Sale
Those Reelection-Campaign Funds
That Second Hotel in Washington, D.C.
That Property in Azerbaijan
That Trump Tower Penthouse
That Resort in the Dominican Republic
That Chinese Trademark
That Meeting at Mar-a-Lago
That Defense Department Trump Tower Rental
That Red Cross Ball
That D.C. Labor Dispute
That Estate in Palm Beach
Those Expansion Plans
That Hotel in Vancouver
That Reality-Television Show
That Pipeline
Those HUD Grants
That Golf Course in Aberdeen
That Other Billionaire New York Real-Estate Developer
Those Indonesian Politicians
That Emirati Businessman
That Virginia Vineyard
That Las Vegas Labor Dispute
That Kuwaiti Event
Those Certificates of Divestiture
That Carrier Deal
That Blind-Trust Issue
Those Fannie and Freddie Investments
That Phone Call With Taiwan
That Deutsche Bank Debt
That Secret Service Detail
That Property in Georgia (the Country)
That Phone Call With Erdogan
That Hotel in Washington, D.C.
That Argentinian Office Building
Those Companies in Saudi Arabia
That British Wind Farm
Those Indian Business Partners
That Envoy From the Philippines

[Adam Lambert]

Don't be upset you could only find 1 post from 2 of the 3 you claimed.

If you don't want a conversation with me I'd suggest you stop following me around and quoting me every day asking questions.

2 posts. 2. count again. and thats just where i stopped looking.

how about i keep quoting you and calling you out when you make claims statements about the left that you embody x1000000?

if you dont like it maybe dont be such a hypocritical shitbag.


"lol russia/trump sheep. oh by the way, seth rich was murdered for being a leaker and the clintons are involved in a pedophilia coverup."

[djohn2oo8]

866676443320770562
:lol wow

[DarrinS]

866676443320770562
:lol wow

That's good, since the source is Jordanian.

[spurraider21]

i havent followed this story as close as others... my understanding the whole time was that he never explicitly mentioned israel, but gave enough info that it would be easy to piece together that the source of that info must be israel.

if that is the what the story was (and i could be wrong), then trump isn't contradicting the story at all, and saying "that's something you got wrong" is inaccurate

[djohn2oo8]

866665308022591488

[djohn2oo8]

That's good, since the source is Jordanian.

864576697034842112

lol Darrin

[djohn2oo8]

i havent followed this story as close as others... my understanding the whole time was that he never explicitly mentioned israel, but gave enough info that it would be easy to piece together that the source of that info must be israel.

if that is the what the story was (and i could be wrong), then trump isn't contradicting the story at all, and saying "that's something you got wrong" is inaccurate


864576697034842112

lol Darrin

[Reck]

That's good, since the source is Jordanian.

:lmao

Link?

[DarrinS]

:lmao

Link?

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/05/jordanian-spies-isil-bomb-intel-officials-170518022215542.html

[RandomGuy]

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/05/jordanian-spies-isil-bomb-intel-officials-170518022215542.html

DarrinS... quoting Aljazeera... wowsers.

[RandomGuy]

Vox shooting on Mensch, Schindler, and Taylor :lol

Democrats are falling for fake news on Russia

https://www.vox.com/world/2017/5/19/15561842/trump-russia-louise-mensch

“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

[Reck]

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/05/jordanian-spies-isil-bomb-intel-officials-170518022215542.html

Yeah, I doubt that.

For someone that claims to have spies within ISIS, this so called source is giving a little too much information that can actually, in fact put them in danger.

[Trill Clinton]

866668971008954368

Oh...see, now that's different!

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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lol

[Reck]

Flynn made false statements to investigators. News breaking.

Flynn is hopelessly fucked. :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Flynn made false statements to investigators. News breaking.

Flynn is hopelessly fucked. :lol

866761332644864001
Yep

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[boutons_deux]

top dem sez Flynn lied to Pentagon

Trash hires only the best trash

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[boutons_deux]

but Obama was lawless? :lol

but Obama overreached? :lol

[florige]

Djohn2008 seems to be having way to much fun with this. lol

[djohn2oo8]

Djohn2008 seems to be having way to much fun with this. lol

Oh yes. I'm taking out the whole "Hillary email" crew.

[boutons_deux]

‘Are we still airing that sh*t?’: Fox News staffers melting down over Hannity’s conspiracy theories

“The other reporters I’ve talked to are similarly pissed about the whole thing,” another anonymous Fox reporter told the Beast. “Some find it embarrassing, others downright heartless. It’s just gross

?“Mostly we’re keeping our heads down,” another Fox reporter told the Beast. “I mean, have you seen some of the stuff we put on air?”

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/are-we-still-airing-that-sht

:lol but Hannity knows STalkers and old white people who suck his shit down as Bible truth

[spurraider21]

Oh yes. I'm taking out the whole "Hillary email" crew.but why do you post multiple tweets that link to the exact same article?

[ducks]

the Washington post has no crediablility left

[djohn2oo8]

but why do you post multiple tweets that link to the exact same article?

So the Trump tards will never forget this shit.

[djohn2oo8]

866792589198069760

[djohn2oo8]

866793659563421697

[boutons_deux]

Comey and Sessions postpone their appearances in congress

[djohn2oo8]

866785488421744641

[djohn2oo8]

Comey and Sessions postpone their appearances in congress

Comey will talk to Mueller about what he can legally say publicly in his hearing with the senate.

[djohn2oo8]

866802115942993920

[djohn2oo8]

866802104819744770

[ducks]

866792589198069760
oh my god he looked into the memos but they might not even exist and who knows if comey wrote down exactly what the person said.
the only way to know for sure is a video recording tape.
this could be the same source the new York time cites and gets things wrong though

[ducks]

866802115942993920

hardball chris is a liar

[baseline bum]

866802115942993920

:lol

[clambake]

this thang really got ur feathers ruffled.

[baseline bum]

http://www.nedmartin.org/v3/amused/_img/cute-duckling-scam.jpg

[djohn2oo8]

hardball chris is a liar

866804305826906112

[clambake]

lol

[ducks]

The former official told NBC News that Coats and Rogers did not believe they were being asked to do something illegal. It was more of a public relations request, they believed, according to the official.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-asked-top-intel-officials-push-back-publicly-russia-probe-n763336
headlines are not true

[ducks]

"The White House does not confirm or deny unsubstantiated claims based on illegal leaks from anonymous individuals," a White House spokesman told the Washington Post. "The president will continue to focus on his agenda that he was elected to pursue by the American people."

[djohn2oo8]

The former official told NBC News that Coats and Rogers did not believe they were being asked to do something illegal. It was more of a public relations request, they believed, according to the official.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-asked-top-intel-officials-push-back-publicly-russia-probe-n763336
headlines are not true

The officials, DNI Dan Coats and Adm. Mike Rogers, were sufficiently concerned about the requests that one of them wrote a memo about it, the former official told NBC News. The two men also exchanged notes about their conversations with the president, the source said.

The former official said Rogers saw the request as a threat to the NSA, which generally doesn't wade into public debate

[djohn2oo8]

Gotta love how ducks left the whole article out :lol

[djohn2oo8]

866783466175725570

[TSA]

Oh yes. I'm taking out the whole "Hillary email" crew.

If getting shit on and debunked daily is "taking out out a crew" you're doing an excellent job. :lmao

[TSA]

866786179336867840

djohn2oo8 busted again for spreading fake news. Would you prefer the former or current FBI director to shit on you?

o-dW59Fu1hg

Acting FBI Director: 'No Effort to Impede' Investigation Into Russian Meddling

Acting Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigations Andrew McCabe told a Senate panel that ongoing investigations at the Bureau—including probes into any possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia—are still underway despite the President Trump's firing of Director James Comey on Tuesday.

“There has been no effort to impede our investigation to date," McCabe said in response to a question posed by Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida."You cannot stop the men and women of the FBI from doing the right thing, protecting the American people and upholding the Constitution."

http://time.com/4775707/andrew-mccab...ess-testimony/



I'm starting to think this is all just one big troll job by you, no one can be this wrong on so many things every single day.

[spurraider21]

TSA you keep posting that same clip of comey talking about the DOJ but not the white house

[vy65]

Lol

[TSA]

TSA you keep posting that same clip of comey talking about the DOJ but not the white house

Forgive me I'm fucked up on Percocets. McCabe statement is still applicable.

[djohn2oo8]

866816727295963136

[TSA]

The officials, DNI Dan Coats and Adm. Mike Rogers, were sufficiently concerned about the requests that one of them wrote a memo about it, the former official told NBC News. The two men also exchanged notes about their conversations with the president, the source said.

The former official said Rogers saw the request as a threat to the NSA, which generally doesn't wade into public debate

Coats is scheduled to testify at 9:30 a.m. Tuesday before the Senate Armed Services Committee.

Rogers is slated testify at 3:30 p.m. before the House Armed Services Committee.

Not only do I get to watch you meltdown twice tomorrow but I know exactly when to log in and watch :rollin

[Spurminator]

866721775685517312

[boutons_deux]

So Donald Trump screwed the pooch again.

This time the president did it on camera, standing next to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, when he made a point of quieting the room and addressing reporters to say this out of the blue (http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/22/politics/trump-israel-russia/):


Just so you understand, I never mentioned it, the word or the name Israel. I never mentioned it during that conversation. They were all saying I did. So you had another story wrong. Never mentioned the word Israel.


He was referring, of course, to his infamous May 10 meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and ambassador Sergey Kislyak at the White House, the one in which he gave away sensitive foreign intelligence and explained to his guests that he’d gotten rid of that pesky little problem he had with Jim Comey.

Although there has been some reporting that the original information came from Israeli intelligence,

no one has ever claimed Trump told the Russians that.

In fact, national security adviser H.R. McMaster had gone to great lengths to explain that Trump had no idea where the information came from.

So this was simultaneously a confirmation of reporting that Israel was the source and a confirmation that all classified information should be kept far away from President Trump.

http://www.salon.com/2017/05/23/is-donald-trumps-casino-empire-linked-to-money-laundering-past-financial-crimes-may-be-the-presidents-biggest-problem/

[boutons_deux]

Mike Flynn Is Likely To Get Away With Refusing To Comply With Senate Subpoena

Now that Michael Flynn has refused to turn over documents under subpoena by the Senate Intelligence Committee,

the committee has two main options,

It can let it go, or

the less likely option, try to hold Flynn accountable.

Odds are against Michael Flynn facing legal consequences for his refusal to comply with a Senate Intelligence committee.

The reason: the Senate’s process to deal with this situation is long and complicated.

That’s the consensus among legal experts across the political spectrum.

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/05/23/flynn-refusing-comply-senate-subpoena.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

So Flynn says "fuck you, Senate" because the Senate is fucked up.

So the "system" is game-able, there's no more "good faith" people, but only cynical, venal assholes to game the system for profit, to fuck us all out of our tax dollars.

Declining America is fucked and unfuckable.

[djohn2oo8]

866986747522973698

[djohn2oo8]

867022835667095552

[djohn2oo8]

867026381833728002

[boutons_deux]

Little Marco actually showed up in the Senate, or did he tweet from FL?

[TSA]

Mike Flynn Is Likely To Get Away With Refusing To Comply With Senate Subpoena

Now that Michael Flynn has refused to turn over documents under subpoena by the Senate Intelligence Committee,

the committee has two main options,

It can let it go, or

the less likely option, try to hold Flynn accountable.

Odds are against Michael Flynn facing legal consequences for his refusal to comply with a Senate Intelligence committee.

The reason: the Senate’s process to deal with this situation is long and complicated.

That’s the consensus among legal experts across the political spectrum.

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/05/23/flynn-refusing-comply-senate-subpoena.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

So Flynn says "fuck you, Senate" because the Senate is fucked up.

So the "system" is game-able, there's no more "good faith" people, but only cynical, venal assholes to game the system for profit, to fuck us all out of our tax dollars.

Declining America is fucked and unfuckable.







:lol Flynn taking a page out of the Clinton email investigation playbook after seeing no problems for ignoring subpoenas.

[djohn2oo8]

867033197254717440

[djohn2oo8]

867024498717057024

[djohn2oo8]

867037263577874432

[TSA]

Coats is scheduled to testify at 9:30 a.m. Tuesday before the Senate Armed Services Committee.


djohn2oo8 I need your/Mensch's take on how the testimony went

[djohn2oo8]

867038198219800576

[djohn2oo8]

djohn2oo8 I need your/Mensch's take on how the testimony went

867020523963695104

[TSA]

867020523963695104

I asked for your take on it. Use your words.

[lefty]

Go Coats go

[djohn2oo8]

867025332263636992

[djohn2oo8]

I asked for your take on it. Use your words.


867025332263636992

[TSA]

867025332263636992

You should have read the article before posting it. It doesn't help your case.

[djohn2oo8]

867025875757404161

[TSA]

867025875757404161

What is the significance of this, in your own words please.

[TSA]

lol Mensch/djohn2oo8 quote of the day

"Marshal Talkin was not deterred. Sources report she ordered her escort to drive her straight to Andrews Air Force base. She met Trump on the tarmac, and delivered the message of the Chief Justice. Multiple sources, from law enforcement, to those linked to the intelligence community, sources linked to the military, and those linked to various different parts of the Justice Department and of the judicial system, report that Marshal Talkin informed Trump that if he were not to preserve and protect evidence, in line with orders of the courts, it would constitute a further impeachable offense; that is to say, a separate impeachable offense, additional to the case of impeachment which has already legally begun against him."

:rollin

[Adam Lambert]

An FBI forensic report of Rich's computer -- generated within 96 hours after Rich's murder -- showed he made contact with WikiLeaks through Gavin MacFadyen, a now-deceased American investigative reporter, documentary filmmaker, and director of WikiLeaks who was living in London at the time, the federal source told Fox News.

“I have seen and read the emails between Seth Rich and WikiLeaks,” the federal investigator told Fox News, confirming the MacFadyen connection. He said the emails are in possession of the FBI, while the stalled case is in the hands of the Washington Police Department.

The revelation is consistent with the findings of Wheeler, whose private investigation firm was hired by a third party on behalf of Rich’s family to probe the case.

“My investigation up to this point shows there was some degree of email exchange between Seth Rich and WikiLeaks,” Wheeler said. “I do believe that the answers to who murdered Seth Rich sits on his computer on a shelf at the DC police or FBI headquarters.”

The federal investigator, who requested anonymity, said 44,053 emails and 17,761 attachments between Democratic National Committee leaders, spanning from January 2015 through late May 2016, were transferred from Rich to MacFadyen before May 21.

On July 22, just 12 days after Rich was killed, WikiLeaks published internal DNC emails that appeared to show top party officials conspired to stop Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont from becoming the party’s presidential nominee. That controversy resulted in Debbie Wasserman Schultz resigning as DNC chairperson.

WikiLeaks leader Julian Assange has stopped short of identifying Rich as the source of the emails, but has taken a keen interest in the case, and has not denied working with Rich.

Assange has not returned a series of recent emails from Fox News about Rich. MacFadyen, who was considered a mentor by Assange, died of lung cancer on Oct. 22 at age 76.

Washington’s Metropolitan Police Department has no suspects and no substantial leads as to who the killer or killers may be, sources close to the investigation said. Metropolitan Police, including the police chief, have refused to discuss the case, despite requests from Fox News dating back 10 months.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/16/slain-dnc-staffer-had-contact-with-wikileaks-investigator-says.html

lol retracted
lol 404 error
lol stupid faggot

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/23/statement-on-coverage-seth-rich-murder-investigation.html

Statement on coverage of Seth Rich murder investigationPublished May 23, 2017Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/)










On May 16, a story was posted on the Fox News website on the investigation into the 2016 murder of DNC Staffer Seth Rich. The article was not initially subjected to the high degree of editorial scrutiny we require for all our reporting. Upon appropriate review, the article was found not to meet those standards and has since been removed.
We will continue to investigate this story and will provide updates as warranted.

[Reck]

Will TSA stop posting when Flynn gets hauled to prison?

[Adam Lambert]

Will TSA stop posting when Flynn gets hauled to prison?

not if 4chan claims flynn was framed by deep state pizza pedos

[spurraider21]

not if 4chan claims flynn was framed by deep state pizza pedospretty sure the code word for that would just be deep dish pizza

[djohn2oo8]

867099942250270720

[boutons_deux]

Coats probably swore his loyalty to Trash, as his priority over country.

[boutons_deux]

‘We’re right, they’re wrong’: Hannity doubles down on DNC murder conspiracy after Fox retracts story
http://2d0yaz2jiom3c6vy7e7e5svk.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/fox_hannity_geraldo_160510a1-800x430.jpg

Despite his employer retracting their coverage of conspiracy theories (https://mic.com/articles/177947/fox-news-seth-rich-has-retracted-a-shady-conspiracy-theory-from-its-website-sean-hannity) surrounding the murder of former DNC staffer Seth Rich, Fox News host Sean Hannity continues to plug the debunked theories on his radio show.

During his May 23 show, which aired just a few hours after Fox retracted their report on theories about Rich’s murder, Hannity took to the FM airwaves to double down on the conspiracy.
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/were-right-theyre-wrong-hannity-doubles-down-on-dnc-murder-conspiracy-after-fox-retracts-story/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

In 4chan and Hannity we trust, right, TSA? :lol

[TSA]

‘We’re right, they’re wrong’: Hannity doubles down on DNC murder conspiracy after Fox retracts story
http://2d0yaz2jiom3c6vy7e7e5svk.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/fox_hannity_geraldo_160510a1-800x430.jpg

Despite his employer retracting their coverage of conspiracy theories (https://mic.com/articles/177947/fox-news-seth-rich-has-retracted-a-shady-conspiracy-theory-from-its-website-sean-hannity) surrounding the murder of former DNC staffer Seth Rich, Fox News host Sean Hannity continues to plug the debunked theories on his radio show.

During his May 23 show, which aired just a few hours after Fox retracted their report on theories about Rich’s murder, Hannity took to the FM airwaves to double down on the conspiracy.
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/were-right-theyre-wrong-hannity-doubles-down-on-dnc-murder-conspiracy-after-fox-retracts-story/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

In 4chan and Hannity we trust, right, TSA? :lol





:lol debunked

[TSA]

867046490895773698
DNC disagrees with this method

[TSA]

Total let down of testimony for djohn2oo8 today. Add 2 more top intel officials to the no collusion crowd :cry

[Reck]

TSA is full meltdown.

[djohn2oo8]

867119015969402880

[TSA]

https://media2.giphy.com/media/qUEl8T4GpWAuI/giphy.gif?response_id=5924b5e5d09fafc2fddba1d3

[boutons_deux]

Total let down of testimony for djohn2oo8 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14870) today. Add 2 more top intel officials to the no collusion crowd :cry

it ain't over.

And Trash is certainly going down for financial crimes, investigated by Mueller AND Schneiderman.