Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

[TSA]

Of course you are. I want to cut to the chase and you want to litigate sundance's movie comparisons.

No dice.

You've posted anonymous blog three times now so you believe it without reservation.

Let's discuss the OIG report -- which is what you say you actually care about here.

What are you saying will happen after the OIG report comes out?

We can discuss the OIG report after we discuss the article you are afraid of discussing.

[TSA]

So much so you are terrified of making a prediction about the OIG report and want to discuss muh sundance.

:lmao

Tell us what is happening.

Tell us what has been happening.

You won't.

I have, and I have been. Start paying attention.

[Pavlov]

We can discuss the OIG report after we discuss the article you are afraid of discussing.:lmao demands

If you don't want to discuss the actual OIG report, just say so. I can tell you're terrified. There is absolutely no reason to prefer discussing muh sundance.

[Trill Clinton]

You didn't address you claims.

Again

- Hillary did not have Seth Rich murdered
- Your pizzagate theory dead
- Susan Rice not indicted
- Saying Flynn was still a free man but not saying he planned to get caught
- FISA warrants granted

and mike brown's hands were indeed UP

[Pavlov]

I have, and I have been. Start paying attention.But you won't now.

Everyone is paying attention to your being a complete pussy when asked direct questions.

[TSA]

:lmao demands

If you don't want to discuss the actual OIG report, just say so. I can tell you're terrified. There is absolutely no reason to prefer discussing muh sundance.

Ive already discussed the OIG and am open to discussing more of the OIG, your terrified line is just more projection. Sundance article is well worth discussing and puts more facts and dates together than any other article I’ve found.

Post what you think Sundance got wrong and let’s discuss. You claimed the article was full of likelys so this shouldn’t be a difficult task for you.

[SpursforSix]

SpursforSix (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49684), what are your thoughts on all of this?

I honestly quit giving a fuck about any of this stuff with the administration or politics. I can't keep track off all the different issues and all the different names involved. Everyday, there's a new story about Trump or an update on a older one.
I figured since I can't do anything about it, I don't need to waste anymore time following it.

[Pavlov]

Ive already discussed the OIG and am open to discussing more of the OIGThen let's discuss it without stupid conditions of discussing muh sundance first.

Are you willing to do that?

Yes or no.

[spurraider21]

and mike brown's hands were indeed UP
eh

[TSA]

Then let's discuss it without stupid conditions of discussing muh sundance first.

Are you willing to do that?

Yes or no.

No.

You’re still trying to squirm out of refuting a single point you took issue with from any of the Sundance article.

What claims did Sundance make that provably false?
Were any of the dates in the timeline laid out incorrect?

[TSA]

and mike brown's hands were indeed UP

wrong account? :lol

[Pavlov]

No.:lmao

Well, we all know what is most important to you here: MUH SUNDANCE

You couldn't look more stupid if you tried.

And now you'll never say anything else about the OIG. This is the hill you die on.


Unless you're lying.

Which you are.

[TSA]

:lmao

Well, we all know what is most important to you here: MUH SUNDANCE

You couldn't look more stupid if you tried.

And now you'll never say anything else about the OIG. This is the hill you die on.


Unless you're lying.

Which you are.

:lol “we”

for as much shit as you talk on that article you have yet to see you counter a single point from it.
“We” know you won’t. You’re too terrified to discuss it and are working overtime to deflect from answering any questions about it.

[Pavlov]

:lol “we”

for as much shit as you talk on that article you have yet to see you counter a single point from it.
“We” know you won’t. You’re too terrified to discuss it and are working overtime to deflect from answering any questions about it.I really don't respect anonymous blog posts with six likelys, horribly failed movie references and "unlawful exoneration." Such things make me dismiss such articles out of hand. Nothing you say will change that just as nothing I say will make you stop worshiping the guy.

But you want to fight about it.

Because you don't want to discuss the OIG report anymore.

Because you know you would have to make a prediction at some point.

And you failed so miserably so many times before.

lol

[Pavlov]

But great -- let's discuss unlawful exoneration, then we can move on.

What are the unlawful exoneration laws and what are the penalties possible for all those involved in the unlawful exonerations sundance alleges?

[TSA]

I really don't respect anonymous blog posts with six likelys, horribly failed movie references and "unlawful exoneration." coming from the Breakfast Club adoring 100,000+ post 24/7 anonymous blogger :rollin

[Pavlov]

coming from the Breakfast Club adoring 100,000+ post 24/7 anonymous blogger :rollin:lol this is how we can tell you're flailing, TSA. Yes -- "we" meaning more than one person here watching you flail.

Happens every time.

Every.

Time.

[TSA]

But great -- let's discuss unlawful exoneration, then we can move on.

What are the unlawful exoneration laws and what are the penalties possible for all those involved in the unlawful exonerations sundance alleges?

Sorry, you already made it clear you didn’t want to discuss sundance so we are forced to move on to the OIG.

In 2015, who blocked the OIG from having oversight of the DOJ National Security Division? Who headed the NSD at that time? When did the head of the NSD step down?

[Pavlov]

Sorry, you already made it clear you didn’t want to discuss sundance so we are forced to move on to the OIG.

In 2015, who blocked the OIG from having oversight of the DOJ National Security Division? Who headed the NSD at that time? When did the head of the NSD step down?:lmao now you don't want to discuss MUH SUNDANCE and have new conditions.

You're flailing, dude.

It's not pretty.

[Reck]

Yo TSA I'm gonna give you a win...but then take it away.

951165774282067968

951158599249735680

Obviously Huma didn't learn how to cover her tracks as well as Hillary. :lol

[Pavlov]

TSA: I WILL GO NO FURTHER UNTIL WE DISCUSS MUH SUNDANCE

Me: Discusses sundance.

TSA: I WILL NEVER DISCUSS SUNDANCE AGAIN

[TSA]

:lmao now you don't want to discuss MUH SUNDANCE and have new conditions.

You're flailing, dude.

It's not pretty.

unlawful exoneration is no where in the article I posted. You dismissed the article for 6 likelys and a poor movie reference. Who’s really the one flailing?

[TSA]

:lmao now you don't want to discuss MUH SUNDANCE and have new conditions.

You're flailing, dude.

It's not pretty.
You just quoted me discussing the sundance article touching on the OIG.

In 2015, who blocked the OIG from having oversight of the DOJ National Security Division? Who headed the NSD at that time? When did the head of the NSD step down?

[TSA]

Yo TSA I'm gonna give you a win...but then take it away.

951165774282067968

951158599249735680

Obviously Huma didn't learn how to cover her tracks as well as Hillary. :lol

I don’t even know what “win” you are trying give and take away.

Please explain, I’m sure this will end up lose/lose for you.

[Pavlov]

unlawful exoneration is no where in the article I posted.Oh, that's sundance from a couple days ago.

STRICTLY OFF LIMITS

:lmao

[Pavlov]

You just quoted me discussing the sundance article touching on the OIG. And now I just quoted you refusing to discuss sundance.

You're flailing.

[Pavlov]

This is what I mean when I say you will never cut to the chase and make any predictions anymore.

That was my prediction.

You fulfilled it.

Thanks for flailing.

[Pavlov]

Investigation winding down. Nothing to see here.

951176918581301249

[spurraider21]

Investigation winding down. Nothing to see here.

951176918581301249
getting closer to 1 billion

[DarrinS]

Maybe Barron is Guccifer 2.0

[Pavlov]

Maybe Barron is Guccifer 2.0

Maybe you'll have a take one day.

[Reck]

I don’t even know what “win” you are trying give and take away.

Please explain, I’m sure this will end up lose/lose for you.

Wasn't it you who posted a picture of Huma with a supposed ankle bracelet? May not have been you as we now have quite a collection of looneys running around here.

[Pavlov]

lol why would they be under sooper sekrit arrest anyway?

[djohn2oo8]

Maybe you'll have a take one day.

:lmao

[boutons_deux]

Robert Mueller’s Investigation Of The Russia Scandal Expected To Go Well Into 2018

there is little evidence that the Special Counsel wants to talk to Trump anytime soon.

I’ve talked to a lot of legal experts who say you cannot get to the bottom of collusion until you have the testimony of Paul Manafort.

You may not have that testimony unless you convict Paul Manafort and that could be months from now.

It’s possible this thing goes well into 2018, and I wouldn’t put too much stock in the idea that Mueller will want to talk to Donald Trump sometime in the next month or two.”

Mueller is not going to be rushed.

http://www.politicususa.com/2018/01/10/robert-muellers-investigation-russia-scandal-expected-2018.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

[boutons_deux]

Trump, 2017: '100 percent' willing to testify on Russia. Trump, 2018: it's 'unlikely' (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/1/10/1731614/-Trump-2017-100-percent-willing-to-testify-on-Russia-Trump-2018-it-s-unlikely)

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1731614

compare with: "you can keep your doctor" :lol

[boutons_deux]

Mueller is still adding to his team, brings in cyber crime expert who busted the original 'Guccifer' (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/1/10/1731585/-Mueller-is-still-adding-to-his-team-brings-in-cyber-crime-expert-who-busted-the-original-Guccifer)

Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller III has added a veteran cyber prosecutor to his team,

filling what has long been a curious gap in expertise and potentially signaling a recent focus on computer crimes.

Ryan K. Dickey was assigned to Mueller’s team in early November from the Justice Department’s Computer Crime and Intellectual Property Section, a special counsel’s office spokesman said.

He joined a group of 16 other lawyers who are highly respected by their peers

but who have come under fire from Republicans wary of some of their political contributions to Democrats. :lol

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1731585

[Chris]

Jay Chay

950796348386811904

[Chris]

951106475254059008

[Pavlov]

How is it illegal, Chris?

[Chris]

I can't read.

"possibly illegal way, totally without authorization"

[Pavlov]

"possibly illegal way, totally without authorization"What's the possible charge against Feinstein?

[Chris]

Fusion GPS Founders Rat Out John McCain; Admit They Helped Get Bogus Trump Dossier Into McCain’s Hands


The two founders of Fusion GPS wrote an Op-Ed piece in the New York Times’ Wednesday edition, largely blaming the Republican party for the embattled research firm’s swelling problems.

And they blamed President Donald Trump too.

But amid all their finger pointing and GOP-laced anger, the duo of Glenn R. Simpson and Peter Fritsch actually ratted out Sen. John McCain as the probable source who leaked the bogus Trump dossier.

In fact, the two Fusion GPS executives admitted they helped get the dossier into McCain’s hands and not Buzzfeed.

This is why investigators and prosecutors love it when suspects in a case offer a written statement or alibi, because so often key admissions are made that help boost the case against the suspects instead of exoneration.

Fusion GPS is no exception.

The Fusion GPS founders say they are proud of the research conducted by former MI6 spy Christopher Steele, even though virtually all of it is unfounded, unproven and fabricated. Simpson and Fritsch write:

Instead, we deferred to Mr. Steele, a trusted friend and intelligence professional with a long history of working with law enforcement. We did not speak to the F.B.I. and haven’t since.

After the election, Mr. Steele decided to share his intelligence with Senator John McCain via an emissary. We helped him do that. The goal was to alert the United States national security community to an attack on our country by a hostile foreign power. We did not, however, share the dossier with BuzzFeed, which to our dismay published it last January.

It doesn’t get much more damning than that for McCain. In fact, that is called getting thrown under a bus. Was it intentional? Quite likely, as Fusion GPS looks to offload some of the heavy heat it has been receiving from the White House and President Trump directly.

And while shocking on one level, that information actually dovetails with previous reporting by True Pundit.

An Oct. 9, 2017 article in True Pundit — nearly three months ago — detailed McCain’s involvement:

But now court documents and new source Intel raise suspicions that McCain may have chipped in financially with the FBI or privately funded the counterfeit research, either himself or through his shady foundation.

Regardless, the research firm of former spooks — Fusion GPS who commissioned the problematic report — could have been paid for the same report by the multiple entities:

.The FBI, through a black-budget fund as reported by True Pundit

.John McCain campaign coffers and connections

.McCain’s foundation: Arizona State University’s McCain Institute for International Leadership

.Hillary Clinton-backed campaign operatives who paid $1 million for the research

.Ye olde triple dip by Fusion GPS. Smart profit model perhaps especially while peddling a very poor product and when it comes to cutting deals with Comey, the FBI and McCain: a lesson in who not to do business with.

According to a court document (attached below) in a British lawsuit against the author of the Fusion GPS report, Christopher Steele, McCain along with a man named David Kramer were the first people to obtain the Trump dossier.

Kramer, a virtual mystery man before the election, previously worked for the State Department under Hillary Clinton. During the 2016 election, Kramer reportedly worked as senior director for Arizona State University’s McCain Institute for International Leadership.

McCain and Kramer shopped the damaging dossier to the U.S. media with hopes the press would jump on the opportunity to smear Trump. These included: The New York Times, The Washington Post, Yahoo News, the New Yorker and CNN and others. Only lowly liberal rag sheet Mother Jones took the poisoned bait and sprinted to publish portions of the dossier.

When the mainstream media balked, McCain shopped the dossier to Comey. According to True Pundit’s reporting, the FBI cut what now appears to be a side deal to further underwrite Steele’s unfounded research.

Did McCain augment the FBI’s payment to Steele with his own cash? Did McCain push or vouch for the FBI’s payment to Steele? Or Did McCain, through his campaign coffers or shady foundation, underwrite the research before DNC-backed entities also paid for it?

Or did all of this take place in an elaborate, much larger plot to discredit and unseat President Trump?

How was McCain the first person to obtain the falsified research if he didn’t in fact have a role in commissioning the dossier? It was provided to no other U.S. senator.

https://truepundit.com/fusion-gps-founders-rat-john-mccain-admit-helped-get-bogus-trump-dossier-mccains-hands/

[Chris]

Dossier used to obtain FISA warrants to surveil Trump campaign and Trump transition: breaking news on Hannity (3 sources)

[vy65]

What's the possible charge against Feinstein?

Lotta legal acumen itt by DJT et al

[vy65]

When it comes to government, the less transparency, the better, thank you very much

[TSA]

Dossier used to obtain FISA warrants to surveil Trump campaign and Trump transition: breaking news on Hannity (3 sources)

The unverified dossier alleging connections between President Trump’s campaign and the Russians was used as evidence by the FBI to gain approval from a secret court to monitor members of Trump’s team, this reporter has learned.

A large portion of the evidence presented in the salacious 35-page dossier put together by former British spy Christopher Steele, has either been proven wrong or remains unsubstantiated. However, the FBI gained approval nevertheless to surveil members of Trump’s campaign and “it’s outrageous and clearly should be thoroughly investigated,” said a senior law enforcement source, with knowledge of the process.

Multiple sources told this reporter that the dossier was used along with other evidence to obtain the warrant from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, known as FISC. The sources also stressed that there will be more information in the coming week regarding systemic “FISA abuse.”

“(The dossier) certainly played a role in obtaining the warrant,” added another senior U.S. official, with knowledge of the dossier. “Congress needs to look at the FBI officials who were handling this case and see what, if anything, was verified in the dossier. I think an important question is whether the FBI payed anything to the source for the dossier.”

On Wednesday, Sean Hannity said he has also independently confirmed that the dossier was used to obtain the FISA (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) warrant from three separate sources.

One very senior source said the dossier played “a significant role” in obtaining the warrant Hannity said on his radio show Wednesday.

FBI officials could not be immediately reached for comment.

On Friday, members of the House Intelligence Committee went to the Justice Department to review the FBI and DOJ documents requested last August by Chairman Devin Nunes, congressional sources said. The information is essential to the committee’s investigation of Steele, the dossier and Fusion GPS.

In October, the Washington Post revealed that Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton campaign paid the now embattled research firm Fusion GPS to fund the research into the dossier. Marc E. Elias, who was a lawyer representing the Clinton campaign and the DNC allegedly retained Fusion GPS, but the campaign failed to disclose those payments on its finance records.

In April, CNN reported that the dossier was used to monitor communications of Carter Page, who volunteered as a national security advisor with the Trump campaign for a short period of time. But in December, a New York Times story seemed to suggest that the inquiry into the Trump campaign and its alleged ties to Russia began with George Papadopoulos, who worked as a foreign policy advisor to Trump campaign.

Sources told the New York Times that it was Papadopoulos’ conversation with a Australian diplomat at London bar in May 2016 that caught the attention of the FBI.

“Now that the dirt has spilled on the dossier, it looks like some officials are trying to deflect by saying the inquiry began with Papadopoulos,” said the senior law enforcement official.


https://saraacarter.com/2018/01/10/was-the-dnc-clinton-campaign-funded-dossier-used-to-obtain-trump-fisa-warrant/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

[Pavlov]

“Now that the dirt has spilled on the dossier, it looks like some officials are trying to deflect by saying the inquiry began with Papadopoulos,” said the senior law enforcement official.Started before that tbh.

Why do you and everyone on your side lie all the time?

[Chris]

Left finally found a clever meme :lol


https://scontent-dft4-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/26239442_1979812152339314_1070945733482635089_n.jp g?oh=2411f1e73f5a98ba9df22d26a3960050&oe=5AFA5894

[TSA]

Started before that tbh.

Why do you and everyone on your side lie all the time?He/she/I don’t.

When was the second FISA warrant sought and when was it approved?

[Pavlov]

He/she/I don’t.

When was the second FISA warrant sought and when was it approved?Investigation started before that tbh.

Do you know when that was?

Let everyone know.

[djohn2oo8]

Investigation started before that tbh.

Do you know when that was?

Let everyone know.

lol

[Pavlov]

lolHis only options are to stall or lie.

He has a problem with the truth.

[djohn2oo8]

Investigation started before dossier. Intelligence received from other governments. But the dossier is what started it all lol

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Papadapolous and Flynn got the bare minimum of what they had coming. They only got slapped with one light charge because they had prime information on Trump. Otherwise, the both of them would be looking at hard time in prison.

I think Flynn got lucky. Mueller is looking the other way about the kidnapping plot. That alone would put him away for life.

They are just too stupid to realize that the point of a plea deal is to reduce the charges/sentence one gets. NR put out an article claiming that the opposite was the case and of course they lack the critical thinking skills to overcome hearing what they want to hear.

I mean I know that if I agree to cooperate with law enforcement I'm not going to ask for them to do worse for me nor accept any such thing.

[TSA]

Investigation started before that tbh.

Do you know when that was?

Let everyone know.

Dodge #1

When was the second FISA warrant sought and when was it approved?

[TSA]

They are just too stupid to realize that the point of a plea deal is to reduce the charges/sentence one gets. NR put out an article claiming that the opposite was the case and of course they lack the critical thinking skills to overcome hearing what they want to hear.

I mean I know that if I agree to cooperate with law enforcement I'm not going to ask for them to do worse for me nor accept any such thing.

How many federal cases have you prosecuted in court?

[boutons_deux]

Fusion GPS transcripts reveal two things—the corruption of Trump, the treachery of the Republicans (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/1/10/1731460/-Fusion-GPS-transcripts-reveal-two-things-the-corruption-of-Trump-the-treachery-of-the-Republicans)

why Republicans have been so anxious to keep this information under lock and key.

Every question asked by Republicans in the meeting—every single question—focused on trying to find information they could use

to demean and defame the witness.

They wanted to paint Fusion GPS as a “Democratic operation.”

They were determined to turn Christopher Steele’s visit to the FBI into a partisan act.

They used every moment of their time to find something Fusion had done wrong, or

that Steele had done wrong …

some way that both the company and the information they had gathered could be dismissed.

In a day-long interview that was supposed to further the

investigation into connections between the Trump campaign and Russian officials,

no Republican expressed the slightest interest in that topic.

a few things were clear:

Even before they hired Christopher Steele,

Fusion GPS was well aware of Trump’s numerous connections to crime bosses in Russia and in former Soviet states.

Steele was hired, not to generate information, but to fill in the gaps around relationships that were already obvious from the public record and Trump’s own statements.

Steele came across a flood of confirmation—

information that included deliberate efforts on the part of the Russian government to influence the United States election.

the transcript revealed just why Senator Chuck Grassley was so determined to keep it hidden.

Because the clear words on the page made it obvious that the

criminal charges leveled at Steele by Grassley and Senator Lindsey Graham went beyond political showboating and into the realm of egregious obstruction.

The transcript makes it dead clear that Republicans have no interest in finding the truth, or in protecting the nation.

Donald Trump was deeply involved with Russian mobsters (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/9/1618540/-Was-Donald-Trump-bailed-out-of-bankruptcy-by-Russia-crime-bosses),

who were largely responsible for his finances.

In fact, much of Trump’s claimed wealth was simply inexplicable,

apparently unmoored from any legitimate source.

Donald Trump, successful real estate tycoon, was a fiction.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/1/10/1731460/-Fusion-GPS-transcripts-reveal-two-things-the-corruption-of-Trump-the-treachery-of-the-Republicans?detail=emaildkre

[boutons_deux]

‘It’s not a fabrication’: Six times the firm behind the infamous dossier contradicted Trump’s claims

1. Researchers weren't expecting to find what they did: The research started as open-ended, but as they uncovered more about Trump's alleged connections to Russia, Simpson said, he and former British spy Christopher Steele, whom Simpson hired to do the research, made a decision to go to the FBI.

2. There may have been a whistleblower in the Trump campaign: This is the biggest headline from 10 hours of interviews. Simpson says Steele told him that the FBI had “other intelligence about this matter from an internal Trump campaign source,” someone “inside the Trump organization.”

3. The FBI indicated it believed some of what was in the memos: After Steele and Simpson called the FBI to report that they had reason to believe the Trump campaign was colluding with Russia, Simpson said, the FBI asked Steele to share everything. A couple months after Steele gave the FBI a full briefing, the FBI said that it believed him, according to Simpson.

4. Some news events have corroborated the memo's findings: Simpson points out that Steele's memo alleged members of the Trump campaign were eager to hear information from Russia. A year later, Trump Jr. released emails suggesting as much, when he said (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/07/11/donald-trump-jr-may-have-just-crossed-the-legal-line-on-collusion/?utm_term=.d1f934387224), “If it's what you say I love it” to correspondence indicating that Russians had dirt on Clinton.
The dossier also identified former Trump foreign policy adviser Carter Page as a potential intermediary between the Trump campaign and Russia.

5. Steele, the former British spy, is a “Boy Scout”: That's how Simpson, who has a nearly decade-long working relationship with him, described the author of the dossier. It's one of the reasons he trusted Steele's information so much and agreed with Steele's expertise that they should contact the FBI with what they found.

6. Fusion GPS is not funded by Democrats or Russia: White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders has said from the podium that Fusion GPS is “Democratic-linked” and that it took money from the Russian government. Neither of those assertions is true, Simpson said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/01/09/its-not-a-fabrication-six-times-the-company-behind-the-trump-russia-dossier-contradicted-trump/?undefined=&utm_term=.5493d64b9e0c&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

[djohn2oo8]

951463864830439425
:lol

[Spurminator]

What time is it in Russia at 3:33am here?

[RandomGuy]

‘It’s not a fabrication’: Six times the firm behind the infamous dossier contradicted Trump’s claims

1. Researchers weren't expecting to find what they did: The research started as open-ended, but as they uncovered more about Trump's alleged connections to Russia, Simpson said, he and former British spy Christopher Steele, whom Simpson hired to do the research, made a decision to go to the FBI.

2. There may have been a whistleblower in the Trump campaign: This is the biggest headline from 10 hours of interviews. Simpson says Steele told him that the FBI had “other intelligence about this matter from an internal Trump campaign source,” someone “inside the Trump organization.”

3. The FBI indicated it believed some of what was in the memos: After Steele and Simpson called the FBI to report that they had reason to believe the Trump campaign was colluding with Russia, Simpson said, the FBI asked Steele to share everything. A couple months after Steele gave the FBI a full briefing, the FBI said that it believed him, according to Simpson.

4. Some news events have corroborated the memo's findings: Simpson points out that Steele's memo alleged members of the Trump campaign were eager to hear information from Russia. A year later, Trump Jr. released emails suggesting as much, when he said (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/07/11/donald-trump-jr-may-have-just-crossed-the-legal-line-on-collusion/?utm_term=.d1f934387224), “If it's what you say I love it” to correspondence indicating that Russians had dirt on Clinton.
The dossier also identified former Trump foreign policy adviser Carter Page as a potential intermediary between the Trump campaign and Russia.

5. Steele, the former British spy, is a “Boy Scout”: That's how Simpson, who has a nearly decade-long working relationship with him, described the author of the dossier. It's one of the reasons he trusted Steele's information so much and agreed with Steele's expertise that they should contact the FBI with what they found.

6. Fusion GPS is not funded by Democrats or Russia: White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders has said from the podium that Fusion GPS is “Democratic-linked” and that it took money from the Russian government. Neither of those assertions is true, Simpson said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/01/09/its-not-a-fabrication-six-times-the-company-behind-the-trump-russia-dossier-contradicted-trump/?undefined=&utm_term=.5493d64b9e0c&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

Well put. Shreds much of the preferred Trump party narrative.

[Reck]

How many federal cases have you prosecuted in court?

You haven't either but that's never stopped you from convicting Hillary and her ilk before so why are you asking this?

[Pavlov]

Dodge #1

When was the second FISA warrant sought and when was it approved?That's rich after you abandoned muh sundance.

When did the investigation start?

[TSA]

That's rich after you abandoned muh sundance.

When did the investigation start?

Dodge #2

When was the second FISA warrant sought and when was it approved?

[Pavlov]

Dodge #2

When was the second FISA warrant sought and when was it approved?Dodge #30

When did the investigation start?

[TSA]

You haven't either but that's never stopped you from convicting Hillary and her ilk before so why are you asking this?

I’m asking fuzzy this since he scoffed at the National Review article written by a federal prosecutor.

In the wake of the plea, however, a dissenting view emerged, mostly among veterans of the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York. Writing in the National Review, former Assistant U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York Andrew McCarthy read the plea very differently:

While initial reporting is portraying Flynn’s guilty plea as a major breakthrough in Mueller’s investigation of potential Trump-campaign collusion with the Russian regime, I suspect the opposite is true.

. . .

[A]s I explained in connection with George Papadopoulos (who also pled guilty in Mueller’s investigation for lying to the FBI), when a prosecutor has a cooperator who was an accomplice in a major criminal scheme, the cooperator is made to plead guilty to the scheme. This is critical because it proves the existence of the scheme. In his guilty-plea allocution (the part of a plea proceeding in which the defendant admits what he did that makes him guilty), the accomplice explains the scheme and the actions taken by himself and his co-conspirators to carry it out. This goes a long way toward proving the case against all of the subjects of the investigation.

That is not happening in Flynn’s situation. Instead, like Papadopoulos, he is being permitted to plead guilty to a mere process crime.

Before you dismiss McCarthy and this analysis because of McCarthy’s conservative politics, understand that he’s not the only one making this point. So is Preet Bharara, the former U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York whom President Donald Trump fired earlier this year. In his podcast this week, Bharara made an argument similar to McCarthy’s, suggesting that the best read of the plea agreement may be that a relatively narrow false statements case emerged because that was all that Mueller had against Flynn.

Bharara said that he “hate[s] to say it” but he doesn’t think Flynn got a sweetheart deal from Mueller despite broad exposure on other crimes. In the Southern District of New York, he said, when he reached a plea deal with flipping defendants, “we made them plead guilty to every bad act that they had ever done, especially if we were later going to be alleging other people had engaged in that activity as well.” The idea is that if you want Person X to testify that he and Person Y did something together, it’s important to make Person X plead guilty to that action. If you let him plead guilty only to false statements instead, you will have branded your own witness chiefly as a liar and not used his plea to establish your case against Person Y.

Bharara acknowledges that not all federal prosecution offices function the way the district does on this point. But he concludes that “I tend not to think it’s the case that [Mueller] just wiped the slate clean with Michael Flynn … I just don’t buy it.… There’s a decent reason for thinking that [false statements is] all that Mueller has at this point.”

http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/12/08/the-unsolved-mystery-of-michael-flynns-plea-deal/

The entire article is a good read.

“All of which is to say that there’s something about the Flynn plea that doesn’t make sense. There’s something important going on here that is not in the public documents and that the press has not reported. We don’t purport to know what it is. Mystery reigns.”

[TSA]

Dodge #30

When did the investigation start?Dodge #3

I asked you this question first.

When was the second FISA warrant sought and when was it approved?

[Pavlov]

Dodge #3

I asked you this question first.

When was the second FISA warrant sought and when was it approved?Dodge #80

I asked you about muh sundance before that and you shit yourself. You can't accuse anyone of dodging anymore, coward.


When did the investigation start?

[djohn2oo8]

TSA the coward. Where is your main account, TSA?

[Pavlov]

TSA the coward. Where is your main account, TSA?Let's discuss muh sundance!

Don't ever ask me about muh sundance!

[djohn2oo8]

Let's discuss muh sundance!

Don't ever ask me about muh sundance!

He's a little gunshy after that pizzagate fail. And boy what a failure it was.

[TSA]

Dodge #80

I asked you about muh sundance before that and you shit yourself. You can't accuse anyone of dodging anymore, coward.


When did the investigation start?


You refused to talk about sundance for days and the minute I said fine let’s move on and talk about the OIG you all of the sudden wanted to talk about sundance. No one is buying your shit.

Dodge #4

When was the second FISA warrant sought and when was it approved?

[Pavlov]

He's a little gunshy after that pizzagate fail. And boy what a failure it was.I've been telling you what's happening and what will happen! Pay attention!

OK, what's happening and what will happen?

I WILL NEVER TELL YOU!

[Pavlov]

You refused to talk about sundance for days and the minute I said fine let’s move on and talk about the OIG you all of the sudden wanted to talk about sundance. No one is buying your shit.

Dodge #4

When was the second FISA warrant sought and when was it approved?Dodge #92

Why don't you want to talk about muh sundance all the sudden?

Why won't you say when the investigation actually started?

Why won't you say what has happened and what will happen when asked directly?

Because you're a pussy.

[KingsFanWithoutName]

TSA the coward. Where is your main account, TSA?

Right here sucka

[djohn2oo8]

I've been telling you what's happening and what will happen! Pay attention!

OK, what's happening and what will happen?

I WILL NEVER TELL YOU!

There were never any FISA warrants!!!!!

later

Oh there were, but they were illegally obtained!!!!

[Pavlov]

Well, we now know det pussy has another alt when he loses TSA in his next bet.

[djohn2oo8]

Well, we now know det pussy has another alt when he loses TSA in his next bet.
Yep.

[Pavlov]

There were never any FISA warrants!!!!!

later

Oh there were, but they were illegally obtained!!!!I'm not hearing much about Susan Rice from him these days.

Or John Podesta.

What happened?

[TSA]

Well, we now know det pussy has another alt when he loses TSA in his next bet.

Well, we know you were too pussy to take my bet so I won’t be losing it to you.

[TSA]

Yep.

Also too pussy to take the bet.

[Pavlov]

Well, we know you were too pussy to take my bet so I won’t be losing it to you.


Also too pussy to take the bet.There are no consequences in any of these bets.

Ever.

Thanks for verifying that for us.

[djohn2oo8]

951483494378672128

[djohn2oo8]

951483494378672128

951488389932560390

[TSA]

There are no consequences in any of these bets.

Ever.

Thanks for verifying that for us.
I offered money as well, you declined like a pussy there too.

[RandomGuy]

I'm not hearing much about Susan Rice from him these days.

Or John Podesta.

What happened?

TSA: Well, I will address that right now... OH LOOK OVER THERE, A SQUIRREL!! Is that a FISA warrant in its paw?

[RandomGuy]

Sneaky Dianne Feinstein, who has on numerous occasions stated that collusion between Trump/Russia has not been found, would release testimony in such an underhanded and possibly illegal way


How is it illegal, Chris?


"possibly illegal way, totally without authorization"


What's the possible charge against Feinstein?


[look at that Squirrel, it has a FISA warrant!!!]


:rollin

[RandomGuy]

I offered money as well, you declined like a pussy there too.

Offer me money.

[Pavlov]

I offered money as well, you declined like a pussy there too.

lol like you'd pay.

Bets here are stupid. Period.

You proved that by continuing to post here after you lost.

[boutons_deux]

Trump just torpedoed his own administration’s position on FISA

In a tweet Thursday morning,

Trump called into question his own administration's position on the reauthorization of a program

that allows the government to conduct foreign surveillance on U.S. soil (https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/key-nsa-surveillance-programs-reauthorization-hits-roadblock-in-congress/2017/12/20/0640980e-e5b7-11e7-833f-155031558ff4_story.html?utm_term=.76ae64c04581), also known as Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Amendments Act of 2008.

Here's what Trump tweeted:


“House votes on controversial FISA ACT today.”

This is the act that may have been used, with the help of the discredited and phony Dossier,

to so badly surveil and abuse the Trump Campaign by the previous administration and others?

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 11, 2018 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/951431836030459905?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)


Less than 11 hours before the tweet, though, the White House reiterated its position in favor of said reauthorization and against an effort on behalf of libertarian-leaning members of Congress to limit its powers


It's pretty clear why Trump tweeted what he did.

He's probably not all that tuned in to what's happening in Congress with FISA,

and he was apparently watching plenty of TV on Thursday morning (https://twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/951444246854275074).

He saw the word “controversial” and “FISA” in a "Fox and Friends" chyron (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/01/11/fox-friends-is-shaping-trumps-views-before-our-very-eyes/) and

remembered that it was the program used to conduct surveillance of Trump campaign aides Carter Page (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-obtained-fisa-warrant-to-monitor-former-trump-adviser-carter-page/2017/04/11/620192ea-1e0e-11e7-ad74-3a742a6e93a7_story.html?utm_term=.63e984286b79) and Paul Manafort (http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/18/politics/paul-manafort-government-wiretapped-fisa-russians/index.html).

Those FISA warrants are at the heart of a deep-state conspiracy theory (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/01/02/republicans-steele-dossier-conspiracy-theory-was-dealt-a-big-blow-this-weekend/) alleging that the Steele dossier was used as a pretext to spy on his campaign and undermine him.

And in Trump's world, things like this are pretty simple:

If FISA warrants were used in a way that he perceives as being against him, they are bad.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/01/11/trump-just-torpedoed-his-own-administrations-position-on-fisa/?undefined=&utm_term=.fa7e561d9601&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

:lol

[Chucho]

lol like you'd pay.

Bets here are stupid. Period.

You proved that by continuing to post here after you lost.

Has anyone here ever paid on a real cash-money bet here?

[Pavlov]

Has anyone here ever paid on a real cash-money bet here?Not that I know of, but it's possible.

[djohn2oo8]

951500906364854272
:lmao

[RandomGuy]

Has anyone here ever paid on a real cash-money bet here?

I still owe CosmicCowboy some beer for interest rates. Had his number somewhere, but lost it. CC if you want, PM me. Hate to not live up to that.

[TSA]

lol like you'd pay.

Bets here are stupid. Period.

You proved that by continuing to post here after you lost.

I would pay and I honored my bet with djohn and do not post under thesanityannex anymore.

[djohn2oo8]

I would pay and I honored my bet with djohn and do not post under thesanityannex anymore.

So what is your current name? What is the abbreviated meaning?

[Pavlov]

I would pay and I honored my bet with djohn and do not post under thesanityannex anymore.WOW SUCH A PRICE TO PAY THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING

[TSA]

Offer me money.

$100 for most serious conviction

I get any convictions stemming from the OIG investigation and you get muh Russia investigation convictions.

[TSA]

Has anyone here ever paid on a real cash-money bet here?

Yes koolaid man paid me on a bet we had. Man of his word.

[TSA]

So what is your current name? What is the abbreviated meaning?


TSA—Tough Shit Asshole—you should have made the bet for all accounts

[djohn2oo8]

TSA—Tough Shit Asshole—you should have made the bet for all accounts

The bet was actually for TSA. which covered both accounts. But you did renege.

[Chris]

Sneaky Dianne



Sen. Feinstein Says A ‘Bad Cold’ May Have ‘Slowed Down’ Her Mental Faculties

https://i1.wp.com/www.projectrepublictoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/DianneFeinstein-e1506038344150.jpg?resize=696%2C299



Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) suggested a “bad cold” may have weakened her mental faculties and caused her to release Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson’s testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee without telling committee chairman Chuck Grassley.

Feinstein published Simpson’s testimony on Tuesday, taking Republicans by surprise. Simpson’s testimony, taken during August of last year, covered his firm’s role in producing the infamous anti-Trump dossier for the Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee. (Related: Fusion GPS Admits To Using John McCain to Pass Dossier to Obama-Era Intel Agencies)

Feinstein, 84, expressed regret on Wednesday for keeping Sen. Grassley in the dark, and suggested it was because of a “bad cold.”

“The one regret I have is that I should have spoke with Senator Grassley before,” she told NBC News. “And I don’t make an excuse but I’ve had a bad cold and maybe that slowed down my mental facilities [sic] a little bit.”

Grassley said Tuesday that Feinstein’s decision to abruptly publish the documents was “confounding” and said he expected the documents to be released “when we both agreed to release it.”

http://www.projectrepublictoday.com/2018/01/11/sen-feinstein-says-bad-cold-may-slowed-mental-faculties/

Hollywood: " I was drunk!"

Democrats: "I was sick!"

[spurraider21]

Has anyone here ever paid on a real cash-money bet here?
midnightpulp and fkla have been good on bets in my experience

also the spurstalk fantasy football league, tho that one uses leaguesafe so its pretty secure going in

[TSA]

The bet was actually for TSA. which covered both accounts. But you did renege.

No. You are just making shit up and being butthurt. You didn’t even know I had the TSA account.

[Pavlov]

Sneaky Dianne



Sen. Feinstein Says A ‘Bad Cold’ May Have ‘Slowed Down’ Her Mental Faculties

https://i1.wp.com/www.projectrepublictoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/DianneFeinstein-e1506038344150.jpg?resize=696%2C299




Hollywood: " I was drunk!"

Democrats: "I was sick!":lol transparency bad now.

[spurraider21]

Sneaky Dianne



Sen. Feinstein Says A ‘Bad Cold’ May Have ‘Slowed Down’ Her Mental Faculties

https://i1.wp.com/www.projectrepublictoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/DianneFeinstein-e1506038344150.jpg?resize=696%2C299




Hollywood: " I was drunk!"

Democrats: "I was sick!"
she didn't say she released it because of her cold. she said her regret was not informing grassley before doing so

[djohn2oo8]

No. You are just making shit up and being butthurt. You didn’t even know I had the TSA account.

Yeah sure. Doesn't matter though because it's fun having you post shit that always turns out wrong. Which is why you lost your account :lol

[Pavlov]

No. You are just making shit up and being butthurt. You didn’t even know I had the TSA account.So there were absolutely no consequences to your losing the bet and you knew that in advance.

lol

[TSA]

[QUOTE=Chris;9245982]Sneaky Dianne



Sen. Feinstein Says A ‘Bad Cold’ May Have ‘Slowed Down’ Her Mental Faculties

https://i1.wp.com/www.projectrepublictoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/DianneFeinstein-e1506038344150.jpg?resize=696%2C299

:lol my bad cold

This was a last ditch effort by the Left to help McCabe, Ohr, and Strzok line up their stories to Simpson’s before testifying

[Chris]

she said her regret was not informing grassley before doing so

I'm sure it really chaps her hide at nights before she goes to sleep. All that regret.

[Pavlov]

[QUOTE=Chris;9245982]Sneaky Dianne



Sen. Feinstein Says A ‘Bad Cold’ May Have ‘Slowed Down’ Her Mental Faculties

https://i1.wp.com/www.projectrepublictoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/DianneFeinstein-e1506038344150.jpg?resize=696%2C299

:lol my bad cold

This was a last ditch effort by the Left to help McCabe, Ohr, and Strzok line up their stories to Simpson’s before testifying:lol transparency bad now

You were so excited about Simpson's testimony before you weren't.

What happened?

[spurraider21]

I'm sure it really chaps her hide at nights before she goes to sleep. All that regret.
i dont care about her regrets or how she sleeps.

but this is a super serious important story to you

[TSA]

:lol transparency bad now

You were so excited about Simpson's testimony before you weren't.

What happened?

Stupid question. I just explained what happened. FBI/DOJ officials set to testify just got to read witness testimony from someone they worked with. Now that Feinstein released this it’s time to declassify and release it all.


The Fusion Transparency Rap

California Senator Dianne Feinstein is getting media raves for flouting Judiciary Committee rules Tuesday and releasing the testimony of Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson without committee approval. Mrs. Feinstein’s disrespect for procedure aside, she has the right idea. Let’s make all of the Russian- Trump -FBI record public.

Democrats seem interested in revealing only what adds to their hope that Donald Trump canoodled with the Kremlin. This includes Mr. Simpson’s self-serving account of the origins of the infamous dossier about Mr. Trump that he hired British ex-spy Christopher Steele to compile. Mr. Simpson, a political gun for hire, spun a heroic tale of noble intentions and praise for Mr. Steele, calling him a “Boy Scout” with “quality” intelligence-gathering skills.

Yet Mr. Simpson couldn’t corroborate the dossier’s claims and had to backtrack on his newsiest allegation. Democrats and the media seized on his claim that the dossier supported information the FBI already had from “a human source from inside the Trump organization.” The Fusion CEO used the same language about a source “inside the Trump camp” last week in a New York Times op-ed.

Yet Fusion waited until after the testimony was released to inform its media friends that this was a “mischaracterization” by Mr. Simpson. Turns out he wasn’t referring to a confidential informant from within Team Trump, but to the fact the FBI had been tipped off by a foreign diplomat about a Trump staffer, George Papadopoulos. Mr. Simpson has a hard time telling a straight story.

The bigger point is that the public is in an evidence-free zone in which Democrats spin the dossier’s unproven claims, while Republicans speculate about the FBI’s partisan motives. The way out is to release to the public the documents the FBI used to justify spying on Trump officials during a presidential campaign. The good news is that Congressional investigators have finally obtained those documents from the FBI and Justice Department.

First up for declassification should be the eight-page memo Republican Senators Charles Grassley and Lindsey Graham last week sent to Justice. The Senators want Justice to begin a criminal investigation into whether Mr. Steele made false statements to the government. Mr. Steele has refused numerous requests to testify to Congress, so the Senators must be referring to his interactions with the FBI, to which he brought his dossier and for which he later worked as an informant.

Some media outlets have reported the FBI used the Steele dossier to get the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to issue a warrant to eavesdrop on Trump officials who were then private citizens. This is important to know because Mr. Steele has since claimed in court that he shared his dossier allegations with the media before the election—even as he was working with the FBI.

Such political maneuvering would surely give a FISA court pause. Did the FBI know? Did it ask? Did it tell the court? The question is whether Mr. Steele misled the FBI on this or anything else, and whether the FBI wittingly or unwittingly presented false information to the court. The Grassley-Graham memo suggests the answers.

Also in need of declassification are records the House Intelligence Committee has extracted from an unwilling FBI, including interview transcripts and reports filed by Mr. Steele’s FBI handlers about meetings with him. These can answer some pressing and straightforward questions.

Did the FBI know Mr. Steele was working with Fusion, which had been hired by associates of the Clinton campaign? Did it know the identity of Mr. Steele’s Russian sources? Did or does the FBI have solid evidence to corroborate the dossier’s claims? Did it share confidential information with Mr. Steele that was relayed back to Mr. Simpson and thus to the Clinton campaign? The fact that Mr. Simpson knew about the Papadopoulos tip suggests it did.

If the FBI has evidence that Mr. Trump was cavorting with prostitutes in a Russian hotel room (which he has denied), the country deserves to know. But if Congress has evidence that the FBI used unproven opposition-research as an excuse to spy on a presidential campaign, or was in any way duped by Russian disinformation, Americans also should know.

Florida Rep. Ron DeSantis has called on House Speaker Paul Ryan to declassify all the documents, and Congress could do so. The better precedent would be for the executive branch to retain the declassification power, and for the White House to step in and order an immediate process for public transparency. President Trump has declassification authority and can deputize a national security professional to work with Congress to protect sources, methods and current investigations.

Speculation over the Trump-Russia probe, the dossier and Robert Mueller’s investigation has become politically polarizing, and the country needs the real facts. Now that Senator Feinstein has set the disclosure precedent, Republicans should see her transparency bet and raise.

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/the-fusion-transparency-rap-1515629974?__twitter_impression=true

[Chris]

:lol my bad cold

This was a last ditch effort by the Left to help McCabe, Ohr, and Strzok line up their stories to Simpson’s before testifying

Tripping over their own feet without FBI/DOJ/etc. holding their hand. "I was pressured....no no no...I was sick!" Watch them squirm.

[boutons_deux]

WSJ asking Repugs for transparency? :lol

Feinstein's released documents show the Repugs are absolutely not interested in getting to the truth of Trash's criminality, but only in criminalizing Steele, including a criminal referral of Steele to DoJ.

[TSA]

WSJ asking Repugs for transparency? :lol

Feinstein's released documents show the Repugs are absolutely not interested in getting to the truth of Trash's criminality, but only in criminalizing Steele, including a criminal referral of Steele to DoJ.

There was nothing in the transcripts that criminalized Trump.

[TSA]

Tripping over their own feet without FBI/DOJ/etc. holding their hand. "I was pressured....no no no...I was sick!" Watch them squirm.

Yeah Feinstein can’t keep her story straight.

[Pavlov]

Another wall of text.Are you saying they will all be perjuring themselves?

Yes or no.

[Reck]

951500906364854272
:lmao

Not like he could anyway. Mueller can just subpoenna him and further embarrass him by dragging him through the floor of the white house.

[boutons_deux]

Grassley will check with Trump to see how they should investigate Trump (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/1/10/1731547/-Grassley-will-check-with-Trump-to-see-how-they-should-investigate-Trump)


"Her action undermines the integrity of the committee’s oversight work and jeopardizes its ability to secure candid voluntary testimony relating to the independent recollections of future witnesses," [a Grassley spokesman] said.



Sure. It’s Feinstein ... who is frightening off those witnesses.

Not Grassley, who is only trying to get a witness arrested after they cooperated (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/1/5/1730132/-Republican-Senators-finally-act-on-Steele-dossier-by-making-criminal-referral-against-Steele). :lol

Asked how he would respond to Trump’s latest tweet fuming that Republicans need to ‘get control’ of the investigation they already control,

Grassley said he’d have to clear it with the boss. :lol


What Grassley said was that he didnt want to comment before talking to the President, :lol

then quickly course-corrected, realizing he cant admit to speaking with the Trump about the investigation.

That was the news here, which @brikeilarcnn (https://twitter.com/brikeilarcnn?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) smartly pointed out on @CNN (https://twitter.com/CNN?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) just now. https://t.co/s4COkcIrxr
— Nick Merrill (@NickMerrill) January 10, 2018 (https://twitter.com/NickMerrill/status/951128273794183169?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/1/10/1731547/-Grassley-will-check-with-Trump-to-see-how-they-should-investigate-Trump?detail=emaildkre

[Pavlov]

Speculation over the Trump-Russia probe, the dossier and Robert Mueller’s investigation has become politically polarizing, and the country needs the real facts. Now that Senator Feinstein has set the disclosure precedent, Republicans should see her transparency bet and raise.

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/the-fusion-transparency-rap-1515629974?__twitter_impression=trueOK, get Trump before a grand jury and release the video of it immediately after.

We'll see how transparent you all want to be then.

[Reck]

Yeah Feinstein can’t keep her story straight.

I dont get why she's tripping all over herself. This was a good move regardless of not telling the other dude about it.

Not like he was on board on releasing the transcripts anyways.

[Pavlov]

TSA doesn't want any transparency unless he does.

[TSA]

10 Takeaways From Glenn Simpson’s Fusion GPS Senate Testimony

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) released a semi-redacted transcript of testimony Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson gave to the Senate Judiciary Committee on August 22, 2017. Simpson had called for release of the testimony in a New York Times op-ed proclaiming the importance of transparency. Simpson and other Fusion GPS principals have resisted invitations to testify from the committees investigating Russian meddling in the 2016 campaign. When faced with a subpoena, Simpson used his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination to negotiate for a closed-door interview in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

The transcript of the testimony runs 312 pages. Feinstein excluded exhibits that were attached to the testimony and redacted highly relevant information about which FBI agents were working with Clinton-funded operatives to investigate the Trump campaign.

During the testimony, staff for Republican chairman Sen. Chuck Grassley alternated with staff for ranking member Feinstein, each group taking one hour at a time. The two followed different paths of questions. Republicans drilled down on Fusion GPS’s work for Russian company Prevezon Holdings before discussing the work on the Russia dossier. Democrats focused on the contents of the dossier before asking about other Russian contacts.

Fusion GPS is facing scrutiny about whether its work for Prevezon violated federal requirements to register as a foreign agent, whether people mentioned in the unverified and salacious dossier were defamed, and all sorts of unanswered questions about its work creating the dossier on behalf of Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee.

In his testimony, Simpson didn’t answer or carefully answered questions covering areas where he’s legally vulnerable while also defending the dossier product he commissioned. Here are key takeaways.

1. The Most Interesting Part Turned Out Not To Be True

While the testimony is full of details, far and away the most interesting revelation was Simpson’s claim that the FBI had a source within the Trump campaign. Simpson said that Christopher Steele, the freelance spy paid for dispatches about Trump, was told by an FBI official that they had a confidential informant in the Trump campaign. This “human source from inside the Trump organization” was acting in a “voluntary” manner. It was someone “who decided to pick up the phone and report something.”

Understandably, that was the big headline many media outlets put with their initial stories on the transcript, including USA Today: “Dossier author Christopher Steele told FBI had source inside Trump Org” and the Washington Post: “Ex-spy behind Trump dossier was told FBI had source inside network, testimony reveals.” The only problem is that it apparently is not true.

Ken Dilanian, the NBC reporter who frequently helps Fusion GPS disseminate stories for its clients, said that “a source close to Fusion GPS” had a correction to offer:


While Simpson used his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination to negotiate an interview that was not done under oath, it’s still a federal crime to give the committee false information. It is unclear if he corrected the false testimony with the committee or just worked through his collaborator Dilanian.

2. The Substance Of The Dossier Was Not Verified By Fusion GPS

Sometimes the dossier contained publicly known information, such as Carter Page’s trip to Moscow, or Vladimir Putin’s well-known dislike of Hillary Clinton. As for the salacious and substantive claims of collusion between Donald Trump and Russia, they remain salacious and unverified.

In their testimony on the Hill, various FBI officials have been unable or unwilling to cite anything that was verified from the dossier other than the Page trip or Russian animosity toward Clinton. The creator of the dossier himself told a British court that the information he collected was “unverified.” In his testimony, Simpson says his confidence in the dossier is based on his confidence in Steele, who he says has a history of providing good information.

He says that unlike actual evidence that can be introduced in a court of law, the gossip Steele provided is different. “So by its very nature the question of whether something is accurate isn’t really asked. The question that is asked generally is whether it’s credible,” he says. “You don’t really decide who’s telling the truth.”

When Simpson talks about having Sen. John McCain share the document with FBI leadership after the election, he still doesn’t know if it’s accurate, explaining, “we just wanted people in official positions to ascertain whether it was accurate or not.”

3. The Impetus For Going to the FBI Turned Out To Be Disinformation Or Misinformation

Another interesting tidbit from Simpson is that Steele contacted the FBI because of his belief that Russians had a compromising tape of Trump in a hotel room, referring to the dossier’s allegation that Trump had prostitutes urinate on a bed that President and Michelle Obama had slept on in the Ritz Carleton in Moscow. Amazingly, Simpson reveals this shortly after saying that Steele is a professional at knowing when he’s getting disinformation from a source. But not only is there no evidence that Russians have such a tape, or that such a tape would have any value against known perv Trump in any case, there’s substantial evidence that Steele was the victim of misinformation at best, if not disinformation.

The single most famous and salacious vignette from the dossier is this “golden shower” scene in the hotel room during a 2013 trip to Moscow. Yet this summer, President Trump’s longtime bodyguard Keith Schiller told congressional investigators that on that trip someone offered to send five women to Trump’s hotel room. Schiller said he took it as a joke, and declined. He also testified that he told Trump about it when he escorted him back to his hotel room and that the two had a laugh. From this nugget of reality was spun a pornographic and difficult to believe scene of Trump using prostitutes to defile the Obama hotel bed.

The reality of the scene versus the unverified dossier’s version of events speaks to the credibility of everything that’s in the dossier. It also speaks to Steele’s ability to discern fact from fiction, and good intelligence from getting played. For that matter, it speaks to Simpson’s judgment about the quality of his researchers.

Yet when congressional investigators asked Simpson if Steele would know if he were being fed false information, Simpson is vehement. He says, “a trained intelligence officer can spot disinformation that you or I might not recognize, certainly that was Chris’s skill, and he honed in on this issue of blackmail as being a significant national security issue.”

4. The Dossier Author Was In a Relationship With The FBI

This has already been reported extensively, but Steele was sharing information with the FBI. As mentioned above, he immediately took the fantastical sex scene from his first dispatch to the FBI. Simpson details how that happened, asserting over and over that he had nothing to do with going to the FBI with the opposition research he was commissioned to produce for Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee. He says that Steele said of the FBI, “they want everything I have.”

Simpson says that the FBI paid for Steele to travel to Rome to share the information, and that they talked about a further financial relationship that didn’t come to fruition. Simpson does reveal that the FBI was also sharing information with Steele. As mentioned in the first point above, the FBI told him they had a source who was corroborating their salacious allegations. It is unclear whether the FBI official was wittingly or unwittingly sharing FBI intelligence with someone being paid by Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee.

Simpson also reveals that he told media outlets that the FBI and Steele were working together. He told congressional investigators that he viewed Steele’s chats with the FBI to be separate from the work he was hired to do by Clinton and the DNC. However, he did admit to highlighting the fact that Steele had interacted with the FBI when he was selling journalists on the dossier before the election.

It’s also worth noting that Congress was briefed on the contents of the dossier during the campaign by the FBI, not Steele or Fusion GPS. That’s according to a Fusion GPS-sourced story in September 2016 by Michael Isikoff for Yahoo! News. The relationship between the FBI and Steele, based on unverified information, was serious.

5. Russia Is Either Good Or Bad, Depending

Sometimes when Simpson is speaking about Russia, such as when discussing why he was investigating Trump’s ties there, he is unsparing. Simpsons says, “one of my interests or even obsessions over the last decade has been corruption in Russia and Russian kleptocracy and the police state that was there.” He says he’s well-versed on Putin’s consolidation of power.

But the other part of the testimony is about his work for Prevezon Holdings, a firm owned by the son of Pyotr Katsyv, a powerful Russian government official. It battled with the U.S. government over its handling of some of its money, settling a few months ago. Fusion GPS was tasked with digging up dirt on Bill Browder, a businessman who launched an international campaign for sanctions against Russia.

One of the key figures in the testimony is Natalia Veselnitskaya. She figures in both the questions about Prevezon, and the questions about the dossier. First, let’s look at how Simpson describes the infamous meeting Veselnitskaya had with members of the Trump campaign at Trump Tower in June. He first cites the dossier claim that Trump and his inner circle have “accepted a regular flow of intelligence from the Kremlin, including on his democratic and other political rivals.” Then he cites the Trump Tower meeting where Veselnitskaya was supposed to provide dirt on Hillary Clinton as proof of this:

So the issue with the Trump Tower meeting, as I understand it, is that the Trump people were eager to accept intelligence from a foreign government about their political rivals and that is, you know, I would say, a form of interference. If you’re getting help from a foreign government and your help is intelligence, then the foreign government’s interfering. I mean, you know, I think that also — of course, in retrospect we now know this was pretty right on target in terms on what [the dossier] says.

But when Simpson is talking about Prevezon, it’s entirely different. Asked about Veselnitskaya, Prevezon’s lawyer, he admits that she hired Baker Hostetler, which hired him. He acknowledges connecting Baker Hostetler with his former colleague Chris Cooper, who made a film to help fight the sanctions against Russia. He acknowledges meeting with all sorts of people who are lobbying to remove the sanctions against Russia. And he admits that his work was to find dirt on Browder, the man behind the sanctions against Russia. When asked if he understood who his work benefited, he says, “We did not believe that was being done on behalf of the Russian government.”

If Trump campaign officials meeting with Veselnitskaya was improper and treasonous, one wonders what working for Veselnitskaya is.

6. Despite Knowing Everyone At Trump Tower Meeting, Claims No Knowledge

In his testimony, Simpson says he had no idea that Veselnitskaya was going to meet with Trump, despite meeting with her both shortly before and shortly after the meeting. He tells investigators that some of Paul Manafort’s notes from the meeting “touch on things that I worked on” on behalf of Prevezon, but that he didn’t realize she was going to talk about it with them. And he acknowledges that he either worked with or knows of four attendees at the meeting: Irakle Kaveladze, Veselnitskaya, Rinat Akhmetshin, and Anatoli Samochornov. The last one also worked on the Prevezon case.

7. Simpson Misleads About Democratic Ties

In the lengthy testimony, Simpson skates in and out of privilege to share the content of the research he works on for clients. But when asked for specifics, or about the marketing of his work, he frequently declined to answer questions. He declined to answer dozens of questions, such as “Did you share that decision with anyone, that [Steele] was going to go to the FBI with this information?” and “Did Fusion disclose hard copies of the memoranda to any journalists?” and “Did Mr. Steele ever share with you who his sources were?”

At the time of his testimony, Fusion GPS was still fighting congressional requests to find out who paid for the opposition research on Trump. It turned out to be Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee. His clients were literally the DNC and their nominee for president. Yet when asked if he had ties to Democrats, he denied it.

Q. At a news briefing on August 1, 2017 White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders described Fusion GPS as a democratic linked firm. Is that an accurate description?…

A. I would not agree with that description.

I’ll add one more thing to the response to Sarah Huckabee Sanders, which is her assertion that we are a Democrat linked opposition research firm. I think I addressed this earlier, but to be clear, we don’t have a business of — we’re not an appendage to the Democratic party.

8. Fusion Pushed Dossier During Campaign

One of the things that has helped Fusion GPS escape scrutiny or tough stories is the role they play in supplying stories to reporters around town. Simpson’s testimony frequently characterizes the relationship as if reporters come to him seeking information that he then shares. But asked if Fusion GPS’s business involves getting media outlets to publish stories, he says it is.

Some people believed that since the dossier was not published until January 2017, it was not used during the campaign. Simpsons says otherwise. He says part of the purpose of being hired for opposition research was to share information with journalists. He says, “some of it was gathered for the possibility that it might be useful to the press.”

And he says he did share it with the press. “I had spoken with reporters over the course of the summer and through the fall about the investigations by the government and the controversy over connections between — alleged connections between the Trump campaign and the Russians. Some of what we discussed was informed by Chris’s reporting.”

Simpson discusses briefing reporters from The New York Times, the Washington Post, Yahoo News, The New Yorker, and others in both September and October of 2016. Simpson says the FBI was displeased with the chats with the media. “I remember Chris saying at some point that they were upset with media coverage of some of the issues that he had discussed with him.”

9. Journalistic Retaliation

Simpson says he was deeply concerned by FBI Director James Comey’s letter announcing a reopening of the investigation into Clinton’s mishandling of classified information. He says he had been asking reporters or encouraging reporters to ask the FBI about whether they were investigating Trump’s ties to Russia. It backfired.

On October 31, The New York Times published its report saying the FBI had found no problematic ties between Trump and Russia. “[I]t was a real Halloween special,” he said. Court filings say Steele briefed a reporter from Mother Jones on the contents of the dossier in late October. Late in the evening of October 31, David Corn published a piece at Mother Jones titled: “A Veteran Spy Has Given the FBI Information Alleging a Russian Operation to Cultivate Donald Trump: Has the bureau investigated this material?”

Simpson also says Steele severed his relationship with the FBI at that point, “out of concern that he didn’t know what was happening inside the FBI and there was a concern that the FBI was being manipulated for political ends by the Trump people and that we didn’t really understand what was going on.”

He also says Steele told him the FBI “mentioned that they didn’t like media coverage, that there was media coverage of, you know, FBI interest in Donald Trump. I don’t know what it was that they didn’t like.”

10. What Was Feinstein Thinking?

The testimony included interesting information about the dossier and the FBI’s handling of it. (As well as a claim someone had been killed over the dossier!) Despite Simpson’s refusal to answer many questions, it helps explain how opposition research gets into the mainstream media. And transparency is always nice.

But for a committee that had worked fairly well in a bipartisan manner, Feinstein’s decision to unilaterally release testimony against the wishes of the majority in the middle of an ongoing investigation was a curious one.

She may have been upset with her colleagues Grassley and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) for not consulting her before making a criminal referral for Steele on the basis of false statements to federal authorities. But the committee still has to interview Jared Kushner, who may now consult Simpson’s testimony. If committees are simply deciding to be more transparent, the House faced a request to declassify information related to the dossier’s use by the FBI.

http://thefederalist.com/2018/01/10/10-takeaways-from-glenn-simpsons-fusion-gps-senate-testimony/#.WlZ2oJ8n08M.twitter

[Pavlov]

Hey, another wall of text.

[Reck]

Hey, another wall of text.

That nobody will read.

Points for trying though.

[Pavlov]

That nobody will read.

Points for trying though.He thinks it saves him from answering any questions.

[Chris]

Not like he could anyway. Mueller can just subpoenna him and further embarrass him by dragging him through the floor of the white house.

Trump can replace Rosenstein with someone from his own administration and have Mueller removed. Mueller operates because Trump allows him to. Robert is doing a great job of indirectly exposing the swamp so far. Tax dollars well spent.

[Pavlov]

Trump can replace Rosenstein with someone from his own administration and have Mueller removed. Mueller operates because Trump allows him to. Robert is doing a great job of indirectly exposing the swamp so far. Tax dollars well spent.Why would Trump ever remove Mueller?

[TSA]

That nobody will read.

Points for trying though.

Why wouldn’t you read it? I read almost everything that everyone posts here, besides boutons.

[TSA]

Why would Trump ever remove Mueller?

He won’t.


Robert is doing a great job of indirectly exposing the swamp so far.

[Pavlov]

He won’t.:lol the swamp

You guys never know what you're talking about.

4567-D Chess

[TSA]

:lol the swamp

You guys never know what you're talking about.

4567-D Chess

Strange that you’d refuse a bet from a guy who never knows what he’s talking about

[Pavlov]

Strange that you’d refuse a bet from a guy who never knows what he’s talking aboutStrange that you're afraid to tell everyone what will happen when you claim to know what will happen.

Why are you afraid, TSA?

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

Trump can replace Rosenstein with someone from his own administration and have Mueller removed. Mueller operates because Trump allows him to. Robert is doing a great job of indirectly exposing the swamp so far. Tax dollars well spent.

Why would an innocent person need to do that?

[Chris]

Why would an innocent person need to do that?

Why would Mueller subpoena Trump and drag him through the White House to further embarrass him if he was innocent?

[Pavlov]

Why would Mueller subpoena Trump and drag him through the White House to further embarrass him if he was innocent?Why would it embarrass Trump?

He has nothing to hide, right?

[Chris]

Why would it embarrass Trump?

Ask Reck, it's his/her post.


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[Pavlov]

Ask Reck, it's his/her post.Nope, it's yours.


Why would Mueller subpoena Trump and drag him through the White House to further embarrass him if he was innocent?Why would it embarrass Trump?

He has nothing to hide, right?

[Chris]

Nope, it's yours.


Not like he could anyway. Mueller can just subpoenna him and further embarrass him by dragging him through the floor of the white house.

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Why would it embarrass Trump?

He has nothing to hide, right?

Maybe you should ask Reck.


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[Pavlov]

Maybe you should ask Reck.
I'm asking you.

Why would Mueller subpoena Trump and drag him through the White House to further embarrass him if he was innocent?If you want to immediately back down again, OK. There are plenty of reasons to get the testimony of apparently innocent people.

[Chris]

I'm asking you.

Indeed you are. I don't speak for Reck.


If you want to immediately back down again, OK. There are plenty of reasons to get the testimony of apparently innocent people.

Not sure what you are rambling about here.

[Pavlov]

Indeed you are. I don't speak for Reck.



Not sure what you are rambling about here.:lol it's hilarious watching you admit to abject stupidity as an excuse to not answer questions.

[Reck]

It's simple, Chris.

If Trump refuses to interview with Mueller on his own, Mueller can then subpoena him and compell him to against his own will.

You should probably know this better than anyone since you're so up to date with everything good ol' Billy went through when it was his time in the barrel.

[djohn2oo8]

Why would Mueller subpoena Trump and drag him through the White House to further embarrass him if he was innocent?

If Trump has nothing to hide and is innocent, why not do the interview to clear his name?

[koriwhat]

If Trump has nothing to hide and is innocent, why not do the interview to clear his name?

too much comedy or just plain stupidity in your comment... not sure which one.

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

too much comedy or just plain stupidity in your comment... not sure which one.

No it is you who is retarded. If you are accused of commiting a crime, and police have you as a suspect in which you know you are innocent, why wouldn't you tell your side of the story to clear your name?

[koriwhat]

No it is you who is retarded. If you are accused of commiting a crime, and police have you as a suspect in which you know you are innocent, why wouldn't you tell your side of the story to clear your name?

got nothing to hide djohn? why hide behind a handle?

it's almost as good as dipshits buying up the amazon echo and google home... just give in and give up, right?

[TSA]

Tripping over their own feet without FBI/DOJ/etc. holding their hand. "I was pressured....no no no...I was sick!" Watch them squirm.https://mobile.twitter.com/PoliticalShort/status/951542153645236224

The Squirm

https://mobile.twitter.com/PoliticalShort/status/951542153645236224

[Pavlov]

https://mobile.twitter.com/PoliticalShort/status/951542153645236224

The Squirm

https://mobile.twitter.com/PoliticalShort/status/951542153645236224Who are you saying pressured her, TSA?

[koriwhat]

this old hag and many more like her are great examples why we need term limits.

[djohn2oo8]

got nothing to hide djohn? why hide behind a handle?

it's almost as good as dipshits buying up the amazon echo and google home... just give in and give up, right?

You didn't answer the question.

[koriwhat]

You didn't answer the question.

your question is ridiculous just like you.

[TSA]

Who are you saying pressured her, TSA?

I’m not saying anyone pressured her. I’m saying she can’t keep her story straight.

[Pavlov]

I’m not saying anyone pressured her. I’m saying she can’t keep her story straight.So no one pressured her.

OK.

[Chris]

:lol it's hilarious watching you admit to abject stupidity as an excuse to not answer questions.


It's simple, Chris.

If Trump refuses to interview with Mueller on his own, Mueller can then subpoena him and compell him to against his own will.

You should probably know this better than anyone since you're so up to date with everything good ol' Billy went through when it was his time in the barrel.


If Trump has nothing to hide and is innocent, why not do the interview to clear his name?

Mueller operates because Trump allows him to.

[Chris]

https://mobile.twitter.com/PoliticalShort/status/951542153645236224

The Squirm

https://mobile.twitter.com/PoliticalShort/status/951542153645236224

Sneaky Dianne :lol

[Pavlov]

Mueller operates because Trump allows him to.And why would he not want Mueller to operate?

[koriwhat]

So no one pressured her.

OK.

wtf are you going on about? who pressured her? not sure, ask her because she's the one that stated she was pressured.

[Pavlov]

wtf are you going on about? who pressured her? not sure, ask her because she's the one that stated she was pressured.Then she said she wasn't.

No need to ask her.

Not pressured.

[koriwhat]

And why would he not want Mueller to operate?

fuck mueller that sleeve rat

[koriwhat]

Then she said she wasn't.

No need to ask her.

Not pressured.

with people as dumb as that old **** is we all should be asking for her resignation or firing. fucking old hag.

[Pavlov]

fuck mueller that sleeve ratWhy do you call him a sleeve rat?

[Pavlov]

with people as dumb as that old **** is we all should be asking for her resignation or firing. fucking old hag.God forbid she have any say in the production and deployment of our mighty F-52 fleet.

[koriwhat]

Why do you call him a sleeve rat?

because he's been part of past admins and has done some shady shit in the past and presently with his clown show of agents he hired for this bs special counsel. dudes a hack.

[koriwhat]

God forbid she have any say in the production and deployment of our mighty F-52 fleet.

god forbid we have whistleblowers in asylum overseas while this old **** sits on the hill illegally leaking closed door transcripts.

[Pavlov]

because he's been part of past admins and has done some shady shit in the past and presently with his clown show of agents he hired for this bs special counsel. dudes a hack.What shady shit has he done in the past and present?


god forbid we have whistleblowers in asylum overseas while this old **** sits on the hill illegally leaking closed door transcripts.What's illegal about releasing the transcript?

[clambake]

damn kori, i've never seen someone that doesn't care.....care so much

[koriwhat]

damn kori, i've never seen someone that doesn't care.....care so much

oh i def care about this nation.

[TSA]

eqkx8awvFm4

Ignoring Hanity it’s a good interview. 702 abuse is about to drop.

[Pavlov]

eqkx8awvFm4

Ignoring Hanity it’s a good interview. 702 abuse is about to drop.What are the 702 abuse charges to be brought?

[TSA]

What are the 702 abuse charges to be brought?

Never said anything about 702 charges being brought. If you’d have watched the video instead of furiously hammering out responses every few seconds you’d have not asked such a stupid question.

[Pavlov]

Never said anything about 702 charges being brought. If you’d have watched the video instead of furiously hammering out responses every few seconds you’d have not asked such a stupid question.Just tell everyone what's going to happen when BOOM.

Save us all the time watching Hannity videos.

Why won't you just say what's going to happen?

[clambake]

Just tell everyone what's going to happen when BOOM.

Save us all the time watching Hannity videos.

Why won't you just say what's going to happen?
he's worried about your feelings if he tells you.

[TSA]

Just tell everyone what's going to happen when BOOM.

Save us all the time watching Hannity videos.

Why won't you just say what's going to happen?
I don’t know exactly what’s going to happen but my bet you pussed out on gives you an idea of where I see this all going.

If you have any further questions regarding FISA abuse please contact Mr. Meadows
https://mobile.twitter.com/RepMarkMeadows?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Es erp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

[TSA]

Just tell everyone what's going to happen when BOOM.

Save us all the time watching Hannity videos.

Why won't you just say what's going to happen?
too many likelys
wall of text
video too long

You’ve become a prissy little bitch in 2018

[Pavlov]

I don’t know exactly what’s going to happen but my bet you pussed out on gives you an idea of where I see this all going.No, it doesn't.

You've been saying all along you know what's going to happen and when asked directly you fold.

Pathetic.

[Pavlov]

too many likelys
wall of text
video too long

You’ve become a prissy little bitch in 2018:lol You get so mad when you get asked a direct question.

[TSA]

You've been saying all along you know what's going to happen and when asked directly you fold.

:lol the sheer amount bullshit you spew these days. You get caught making shit up on a daily basis now. You really are losing it.

[clambake]

:lol the sheer amount bullshit you spew these days. You get caught making shit up on a daily basis now. You really are losing it.

don't tell him

tell me

whats going to happen?

[TSA]

Grassley Presses Fusion GPS About Inaccurate Testimony

The chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee is asking the opposition research firm behind the infamous Trump dossier to explain how its founder mischaracterized statements in an interview with the panel last August.

In a letter sent on Thursday, Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley asked Fusion GPS lawyer Joshua Levy about Fusion founder Glenn Simpson’s testimony that the FBI had a voluntary source from inside the Trump orbit who corroborated parts of the dossier.

A transcript of Simpson’s testimony was released on Tuesday by California Sen. Dianne Feinstein, the top Democrat on the Judiciary committee.

Simpson’s reference to the walk-in FBI source was touted by some news outlets as a bombshell revelation. The idea that the Trump campaign had a mole who told the FBI about collusion was perceived as a game-changer.

But it turned out that Simpson had “mischaracterized” the FBI’s sourcing. Several news outlets reported that a “source close to Fusion” said that Simpson was referring to an Australian diplomat who had passed along information to the FBI in July 2016 about a barroom conversation he had two months earlier with Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos.

Papadopoulos, who was 28 years old at the time, reportedly told the diplomat, Alexander Downer, that he had been told that the Russian government had hacked emails from the Clinton campaign.

Papadopoulos pleaded guilty in October to lying to the FBI about some of his interactions with his source for the claim about the Russian hacks. It is still unclear if Papadopoulos attempted to access the emails or whether he told the Trump campaign about the stolen documents.

Grassley is questioning why Simpson or Levy did not correct the testimony even though the lawyer was given 14 hours in October and November to review a transcript of the interview.

“Given that sources close to your client are reportedly trying to correct the public record regarding his statements to the Committee about this purported source, the questions arises as to whether or when your client plans to correct the Committee’s record,” Grassley wrote.

“Neither you nor he has attempted to correct this alleged mischaracterization in his statements,” the Republican added.

Grassley wants Levy to explain when he and Fusion realized that Simpson’s statement was a mischaracterization and why they did not attempt to correct the official record.

http://amp.dailycaller.com/2018/01/11/grassley-presses-fusion-gps-about-inaccurate-testimony/

[Pavlov]

:lol the sheer amount bullshit you spew these days. You get caught making shit up on a daily basis now. You really are losing it.I totally accept your new admission that you don't know what's going to happen.

:lol at your accusing anyone of losing it after #pizzagate

[Pavlov]

Grassley Presses Fusion GPS About Inaccurate Testimony

The chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee is asking the opposition research firm behind the infamous Trump dossier to explain how its founder mischaracterized statements in an interview with the panel last August.

In a letter sent on Thursday, Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley asked Fusion GPS lawyer Joshua Levy about Fusion founder Glenn Simpson’s testimony that the FBI had a voluntary source from inside the Trump orbit who corroborated parts of the dossier.

A transcript of Simpson’s testimony was released on Tuesday by California Sen. Dianne Feinstein, the top Democrat on the Judiciary committee.

Simpson’s reference to the walk-in FBI source was touted by some news outlets as a bombshell revelation. The idea that the Trump campaign had a mole who told the FBI about collusion was perceived as a game-changer.

But it turned out that Simpson had “mischaracterized” the FBI’s sourcing. Several news outlets reported that a “source close to Fusion” said that Simpson was referring to an Australian diplomat who had passed along information to the FBI in July 2016 about a barroom conversation he had two months earlier with Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos.

Papadopoulos, who was 28 years old at the time, reportedly told the diplomat, Alexander Downer, that he had been told that the Russian government had hacked emails from the Clinton campaign.

Papadopoulos pleaded guilty in October to lying to the FBI about some of his interactions with his source for the claim about the Russian hacks. It is still unclear if Papadopoulos attempted to access the emails or whether he told the Trump campaign about the stolen documents.

Grassley is questioning why Simpson or Levy did not correct the testimony even though the lawyer was given 14 hours in October and November to review a transcript of the interview.

“Given that sources close to your client are reportedly trying to correct the public record regarding his statements to the Committee about this purported source, the questions arises as to whether or when your client plans to correct the Committee’s record,” Grassley wrote.

“Neither you nor he has attempted to correct this alleged mischaracterization in his statements,” the Republican added.

Grassley wants Levy to explain when he and Fusion realized that Simpson’s statement was a mischaracterization and why they did not attempt to correct the official record.

http://amp.dailycaller.com/2018/01/11/grassley-presses-fusion-gps-about-inaccurate-testimony/Nothingburger.

[Chris]

https://mobile.twitter.com/PoliticalShort/status/951542153645236224

The Squirm

https://mobile.twitter.com/PoliticalShort/status/951542153645236224

'Sneaky Dianne' just can't make up her mind on anything. :lol

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[Isitjustme?]

'Sneaky Dianne' just can't make up her mind on anything. :lol

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That's around the same time period Trump was friends with the Clintons and pro-abortion, right?

[Isitjustme?]

:lol :lol

"April 1989: Hosts a Pro-Choice Fundraiser

According to The New York Times, Trump was a co-host of a fundraiser at the Plaza Hotel, which he owned, for an abortion rights leader in 1989 but failed to attend. Organizers of the event told the paper that Trump and his relatives had received death threats over the dinner and that was the reason they decided to skip it.

October 24, 1999: Pro-Choice But "Hates It"

During an interview with Tim Russert on "Meet the Press," Trump shared his thoughts on a number of social issues, including abortion.

He declared that he was "very pro-choice," but went on to decry the idea of the procedure. "

[Chris]

"Nothing has changed. We are going to continue to be fully cooperative."

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[Reck]

That's around the same time period Trump was friends with the Clintons and pro-abortion, right?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2Obeu_VYY4

:lol She's gonna go down as the best senator ever, great, wonderful woman and misunderstood woman :cry
:lol Bill Clinton was a great president
:lol People were jealous of the Clintons
:lol We should be so lucky

[Chris]

Comey concerned now.

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[Chris]

"The guy that abused the FISA court on behalf of Hillary Clinton and the DEMs-to spy on Trump...is telling us that Section 702 is vital to our country??" :lol

[spurraider21]

"The guy that abused the FISA court on behalf of Hillary Clinton and the DEMs-to spy on Trump...is telling us that Section 702 is vital to our country??" :lol
:lol "we need it!"

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[spurraider21]

:cry they used it to spy on me :cry

but with that being said, we need it!

[Reck]

Comey concerned now.

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How is he concerned? He wants the 702 to be re-aurhorized. And the bill passed. :lol

[AaronY]

Chris struggling hard on this page God bless em

[Chris]

:lol "we need it!"

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"foreign surveillance of foreign bad guys on foreign land." "Get smart!"

[spurraider21]

"foreign surveillance of foreign bad guys on foreign land." "Get smart!"
:lmao what do you think FISA section 702 is? :lmao

[spurraider21]

Trump wants FISA renewed... good!
Comey wants FISA renewed... evil!

[spurraider21]

and we all know chris is tryin to figure this out thinking "there's no way that's what trump meant, he's not that stupid" when the answer is right there in front of him

[AaronY]

Chris you need to get cubby back in here. I see you like his tweets and talk to him on Twitter i think. You ever ask him to come back?

[Chris]

Chris you need to get cubby back in here. I see you like his tweets and talk to him on Twitter i think. You ever ask him to come back?

Most of the forum put him on ignore (lol Mono), and the moderators were deleting his posts and occasionally, threads. Not surprised you are stalking us on twitter :lol

[spurraider21]

Most of the forum put him on ignore (lol Mono), and the moderators were deleting his posts and occasionally, threads. Not surprised you are stalking us on twitter :lol
:lol following alex jones, ann coulter, paul joseph watson, mark dice, :lmao q :lmao, latent homosexual trey gowdy, etc

det echo chamber must be really loud on your home page

[AaronY]

Most of the forum put him on ignore (lol Mono), and the moderators were deleting his posts and occasionally, threads. Not surprised you are stalking us on twitter :lol
You're my favorite poster on here maybe either you or mono. Although youre not my favorite for the reasons you'd probably like to be

[AaronY]

It does suck they were deleting his posts tho I don't agree with that

[spurraider21]

:lmao james woods

[TSA]

:lol "we need it!"

951457382651056128

Trump orders intelligence agencies to develop rules for naming U.S. citizens in classified reports
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/trump-orders-intelligence-agencies-to-develop-rules-for-naming-u-s-citizens-in-classified-reports

[spurraider21]

he needs section 702!

:lol still harping on susan rice and the "massive unmasking scandal" that amounted to an actual nothingburger

[TSA]

Andrew Weissmann met with AP reporters to discuss Paul Manafort case before joining special counsel

A senior Justice Department prosecutor in Robert Mueller’s Special Counsel office held a meeting with Associated Press journalists last spring to discuss an investigation into Paul Manafort’s financial record, a day before the wire service published a major expose disclosing alleged money laundering made by the former and now embattled Trump campaign chairman.

Federal prosecutor Andrew Weissmann, now a senior attorney in the special counsel’s office, met with AP journalists on April 11 after reporters informed him of their own investigation into Manafort’s dealings with Ukrainian officials. The reporters had reached out to Weissman on a different story earlier in the year and it was during that conversation, that the AP team told Weissmann of their investigation into Manafort, stated the sources. The AP published the explosive expose on April 12, a day after their meeting with Weissmann.

According to sources familiar with the meeting, the reporters had promised to share documents and other information gleaned from the own investigation with the Justice Department.

AP spokeswoman Lauren Easton said Thursday, “we refrain from discussing our sources.”

“Associated Press journalists meet with a range of people in the course of reporting stories, and we refrain from discussing relationships with sources. However, the suggestion that AP would voluntarily serve as the source of information for a government agency is categorically untrue,” added Easton.

At the time of the meeting, Weissmann was head of the Justice Department’s fraud division. He was the most senior member of the Justice Department to join the special counsel in May.

Sources said Weissmann, had notified his superiors about the arranged meeting with the AP and at the time of the meeting he was not assigned to the Manafort probe and had no knowledge of the state of the investigation. Weissmann didn’t have access to grand jury materials, didn’t have access to reports and his role was solely to facilitate the meeting because the AP reached out to him, the officials added.

The officials noted that no commitment was made to assist the reporters with their investigation into Manafort’s life or activity.

The AP meeting arranged by Weissmann came to light in a letter sent to Justice Department Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein from House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, R-CA, late last year, requesting specific FBI and DOJ documentation related to the controversial Fusion GPS dossier that alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

Rosenstein not only agreed to provide all the documents requested, which include unredacted FBI interviews with witnesses, as well as access to eight key FBI and DOJ witnesses but said they would provide the committee with information on Weissmann, as reported last week.

The committee letter noted that the Justice Department is “researching records related to the details of an April 2017 meeting between DOJ Attorney Andrew Weissmann (now the senior attorney for Special Counsel Robert Mueller) and the media, which will also be provided to this Committee by close of business on Thursday, January 11, 2018.”

That meeting with the AP was attended by three different litigating offices. Two employees from the U.S. Justice Department and the other representative was from the U.S. Attorney’s office, according to the sources. FBI agents also attended the meeting, law enforcement sources confirmed.

Peter Carr, a spokesman for Mueller, declined to comment. Chief Justice Department spokeswoman Sarah Isgur Flores also declined to comment.

However, the Justice Department and FBI have specific guidelines that must be followed when obtaining documents or information from the media, according to the DOJ website.

“Members of the Department may not employ the use of the investigative tool at issue until the Criminal Division has responded in writing,” the guideline states. “Accordingly, to ensure appropriate consideration, members of the Department should submit requests for authorization or consultation pursuant to this policy at least 30 days before the anticipated use of the covered law enforcement tool.”

Carr declined to comment on whether the AP shared documentation or information with Weissmann. He also declined to comment on whether Weissmann followed appropriate DOJ procedures for the meeting to obtain documentation.

And Weissmann’s role in arranging the meeting did not go over well with FBI officials, who issued a complaint to the Justice Department suggesting Weissmann didn’t follow normal procedures for dealing with journalists. The FBI was concerned the meeting with the journalists could harm the ongoing probe into Russia’s involvement in the 2016 presidential election, according to sources with knowledge of the information.

The news organization published the Manafort story a day after the meeting on April 12. The story revealed that roughly $1.2 million in payments listed for Manafort in a handwritten ledger in Ukraine had been deposited into his U.S. bank accounts.

After the AP published a series of investigative stories, Manafort was forced to file a numerous late lobbying reports. Those reports showed he was paid millions by pro-Russian interests in Ukraine. Manafort has pleaded innocent to the felony charges and last week filed a lawsuit trying to remove Mueller as the special prosecutor in the case.

https://saraacarter.com/2018/01/11/andrew-weissmann-met-with-ap-reporters-to-discuss-paul-manafort-case-before-joining-special-counsel/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

[Chris]

Another conflict of interest?

[TSA]

Another conflict of interest?

The hits just keep coming.

[djohn2oo8]

The hits just keep coming.

Just like Obama's wiretaps eh?

[Chris]

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[TSA]

Just like Obama's wiretaps eh?

:tu

[TSA]

951506903212986368

[Chris]

Comey was concerned. Decided not to prosecute Herr Clinton. "Extreme carelessness". Comey's statement written before all evidence was gathered and witnesses interviewed. Comey was concerned, so he leaked information to the press. Comey looks to Lebron for leadership, and has been tweeting a lot lately.

[Reck]

951506903212986368

That's like wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong and wrong. :lol

[TSA]

951619616442408962

oh shit

https://www.scribd.com/document/349542716/Top-Secret-FISA-Court-Order-President-Obama-Spying-on-Political-Enemies

page 83+

[baseline bum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2Obeu_VYY4

:lol She's gonna go down as the best senator ever, great, wonderful woman and misunderstood woman :cry
:lol Bill Clinton was a great president
:lol People were jealous of the Clintons
:lol We should be so lucky

:rollin

[TSA]

951626336723927040

951625099907608577

[TSA]

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/11/the-doj-and-fbi-worked-with-fusion-gps-on-operation-trump/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

THE UNRAVELING

[spurraider21]

we need it badly!

[spurraider21]

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/11/the-doj-and-fbi-worked-with-fusion-gps-on-operation-trump/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

THE UNRAVELING
yes, and according to Salon trump is getting impeached!

[TSA]

Notice how it was an FBI “private contractor” that was conducting the unauthorized FISA-702 Queries.

We have been tipped off that the contractor in question was, unbelievably, Fusion-GPS.

It is almost certain this early 2016 series of FISA-702 compliance violations was the origin of NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers concern. His discovery becomes the impetus for Director Rogers requesting the 2016 full compliance audit. It appears Fusion-GPS was the FBI contracted user identified in the final FISA court opinion/ruling.

https://www.scribd.com/document/349542716/Top-Secret-FISA-Court-Order-President-Obama-Spying-on-Political-Enemies

:wow

[TSA]

The ENTIRE SYSTEM of FISA-702 surveillance and data collection was weaponized against a political campaign. The DOJ and FBI used the FISA Court to gain access to Trump data, and simultaneously justify earlier FISA “queries” by their contractor, Fusion GPS. FISA-702 queries were used to gather information on the Trump campaign which later became FBI counterintelligence surveillance on the officials therein./thread

[diego]

I stopped following this, but is the accusation that fusion searched police surveillance info taken from private citizen Trump?

If so,huge irony for all the conservatives who justified those surveillance programs that people with brains complained were completely illegal and ripe for abuse.

[Reck]

Notice how it was an FBI “private contractor” that was conducting the unauthorized FISA-702 Queries.

We have been tipped off that the contractor in question was, unbelievably, Fusion-GPS.

It is almost certain this early 2016 series of FISA-702 compliance violations was the origin of NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers concern. His discovery becomes the impetus for Director Rogers requesting the 2016 full compliance audit. It appears Fusion-GPS was the FBI contracted user identified in the final FISA court opinion/ruling.

https://www.scribd.com/document/349542716/Top-Secret-FISA-Court-Order-President-Obama-Spying-on-Political-Enemies

:wow


The ENTIRE SYSTEM of FISA-702 surveillance and data collection was weaponized against a political campaign. The DOJ and FBI used the FISA Court to gain access to Trump data, and simultaneously justify earlier FISA “queries” by their contractor, Fusion GPS. FISA-702 queries were used to gather information on the Trump campaign which later became FBI counterintelligence surveillance on the officials therein./thread

LOL NO and NO.

[TSA]

LOL NO and NO.

Want to put $100 on it?

[Reck]

Want to put $100 on it?

Nope.

One day, you'll need that money.

[TSA]

951651386269282304

951651762309607424

951652058712756224

951668121621942274

951668504608075777

951668829985366016

951669102501908480

951669384833064960

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951670009457266693

[djohn2oo8]

I hope TSA doesn't think that's really Jeff Sessions.

[boutons_deux]

FISA? :lol

Repug House just approved wiretapping of Americans w/o warrant

[DarrinS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK4PGCQQ4Oc

[Pavlov]

:lol TSA

[djohn2oo8]

951803624824373248

[djohn2oo8]

951818635395379200
lol stable genius

[Trill Clinton]

951820541488398336

[boutons_deux]

Ryan Had To Personally School Trump On FISA After Botched Tweet

After President Donald Trump on Thursday morning published a tweet mixing up domestic surveillance and foreign surveillance, House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI) had to explain the difference to Trump over the phone for 30 minutes,

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/paul-ryan-explained-surveillance-to-trump?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20tpm-news%20%28TPMNews%29

[RandomGuy]

I don’t know exactly what’s going to happen but my bet you pussed out on gives you an idea of where I see this all going.

If you have any further questions regarding FISA abuse please contact Mr. Meadows
https://mobile.twitter.com/RepMarkMeadows?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Es erp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Still chasing the FISA squirrel. I think it went down a shithole.

[RandomGuy]

$100 for most serious conviction

I get any convictions stemming from the OIG investigation and you get muh Russia investigation convictions.

Offer me power.

[TSA]

Still chasing the FISA squirrel. I think it went down a shithole.Still blind I see. FISA squirrels in the bag.

951619616442408962

[TSA]

Still chasing the FISA squirrel. I think it went down a shithole.

FISC court docs. Page 83-86 are key.

https://www.scribd.com/document/349542716/Top-Secret-FISA-Court-Order-President-Obama-Spying-on-Political-Enemies

[TSA]

None of this would been discovered without Adm. Mike Rogers—true Patriot.

[TSA]

FISC court docs. Page 83-86 are key.

https://www.scribd.com/document/349542716/Top-Secret-FISA-Court-Order-President-Obama-Spying-on-Political-Enemies

951728533231034368

FBI was allowing third party contractors to run FISA queries. Rogers caught the irregularities and requested an audit. FBI/DOJ/Fusion GPS have been trying to cover their ass ever since.

[RandomGuy]

FISC court docs. Page 83-86 are key.

https://www.scribd.com/document/349542716/Top-Secret-FISA-Court-Order-President-Obama-Spying-on-Political-Enemies

Who's a good boy? You are! Get that squirrel.

https://harfobama.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/19875622_1731251653834952_1076994459685845995_n.jp g

[TSA]

Who's a good boy? You are! Get that squirrel.

https://harfobama.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/19875622_1731251653834952_1076994459685845995_n.jp g

Don’t worry, there will be room for all of you.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/conan/images/d/db/Tree_of_Woe.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20131011224011

[Pavlov]

Don’t worry, there will be room for all of you.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/conan/images/d/db/Tree_of_Woe.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20131011224011What are you saying will happen?

[TSA]

FISC court docs. Page 83-86 are key.

https://www.scribd.com/document/349542716/Top-Secret-FISA-Court-Order-President-Obama-Spying-on-Political-Enemies

951629944878137344

[dabom]

I hope TSA doesn't think that's really Jeff Sessions.

:lol