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Pavlov
03-07-2018, 05:56 PM
Let us proceed.Get your own catchphrase..
No. I'm fine with the Nunes memo and the impending IG report. I don't have a blanket opinion on every memo. Does that make sense to you?I was talking about the Steele memos.
You're saying Steele memo good if it seems to support your conspiracy theory -- correct?
No one ever mentioned the others you're trying to use to confuse the issue.
I asked you to outline what information he had on Hillary that Mueller wants. This is your chance to talk about your theory and Hillary. Splain it, Wile E.
I don't claim to know what information Mueller is seeking I simply followed the money. You said to follow the money without knowing that following the money leads right back to the Clintons.
RandomGuy
03-07-2018, 05:58 PM
I don't claim to know ...Clintons. blah blah blah CLINTON!!!! DERP
You got jack shit.
Got it.
Pavlov
03-07-2018, 05:59 PM
I don't care about Rhodes, figure it out if you are so curious.TSA means he did a Google search and could only find right wing blog innuendo just like I said.
lol TSA
Pavlov
03-07-2018, 06:01 PM
I don't claim to know what information Mueller is seeking I simply followed the money. You said to follow the money without knowing that following the money leads right back to the Clintons.You're saying Nader came to the US to see Trump because Clinton?
You got jack shit.
Got it.
You didn't know where the money lead to and now you are embarrassed.
RandomGuy
03-07-2018, 06:04 PM
971476944280731648
sure the fuck is
Wow... the [Republican] AG is looking at things [Republican dickwads in] Congress is concerned about?
Oh my stars and garters [clutches pearls]
:rollin
RandomGuy
03-07-2018, 06:05 PM
:cry
Good, good. Your butthurt makes me happy.
:jack
[edit]
To be clear: Not aware, and not embarrassed in the slightest. Not knowing your dumb shit theories and their "evidence" does not conern me. Not even a little.
You had a chance to splain it, and you fucking failed. Deal with it, asshole, or explain why this connects. Otherwise... meh.
Wow... the [Republican] AG is looking at things [Republican dickwads in] Congress is concerned about?
Oh my stars and garters [clutches pearls]
:rollin
I forgot that you aren't concerned about corruption from top officials in the DOJ/FBI.
Good, good. Your butthurt makes me happy.
:jack
It's sad what you've become RG. Trump literally broke you.
spurraider21
03-07-2018, 06:09 PM
I don't care about Rhodes, figure it out if you are so curious.
Great. Glad you brought him up, then.
RandomGuy
03-07-2018, 06:09 PM
It's sad what you've become RG. Trump literally broke you.
No, dealing with your stupid bullshit for a year, that is beyond what I can stand. Fuck right off. You have had enough of my time and patience, and pissed on both.
spurraider21
03-07-2018, 06:10 PM
It's sad what you've become RG. Trump literally broke you.
tbh trump turned you from a mere gun enthusiast to full blown conspiracy theorist
Spurminator
03-07-2018, 06:14 PM
It's far preferable to be hyperbolically and irrationally against those in power than to be hyperbolically and irrationally loyal to them.
The former is an annoyance or (at worst) obstructionist, the latter is a tool for tyranny.
RandomGuy
03-07-2018, 06:19 PM
https://images.dailykos.com/images/515930/story_image/9DD36328-1EC3-41EA-A029-DDF56FD9FCE7.jpeg?1520461300
For sale, Trump Tower gift shop.
If Obama had sold out the presidential seal in a gift shop he owned... there would be calls for a special prosecutor.
But hey, let's bitch about a failed presidential candidate some more, because that is more important than a sitting president whoring out his office. :rolleyes
lol Reck (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14412)
Hey Chris, congrats on finally using the mentions right. You finally realized simply bolding the name doesn't actually do anything. :lol
All he said was that he "appointed" a guy to look into it. He didn't say he appointed a special counsel with specific mandates. Small details matter, Chris.
RandomGuy
03-07-2018, 06:21 PM
18 U.S. Code § 713 - Use of likenesses of the great seal of the United States, the seals of the President and Vice President, the seal of the United States Senate,...United States House of Representatives, and the seal of the United States Congress
(b) Whoever, except as authorized under regulations promulgated by the President and published in the Federal Register, knowingly manufactures, reproduces, sells, or purchases for resale, either separately or appended to any article manufactured or sold, any likeness of the seals of the President or Vice President, or any substantial part thereof, except for manufacture or sale of the article for the official use of the Government of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.
Picture of the crime, plus the USC violation. just sayin'
dabom
03-07-2018, 06:22 PM
Hey Chris, congrats on finally using the mentions right. You finally realizing simply bolding the name doesn't actually do anything. :lol
All he said was that he "appointed" a guy to look into it. He didn't say he appointed a special counsel with specific mandates. Small details matter, Chris.
:lol
No, dealing with your stupid bullshit for a year, that is beyond what I can stand. Fuck right off. You have had enough of my time and patience, and pissed on both.
If you've felt this way for a year what does that say about your self control? I hope you stick around RG I'm looking forward to rubbing this thread in your face for another year.
RandomGuy
03-07-2018, 06:23 PM
If you've felt this way for a year what does that say about your self control? I hope you stick around RG I'm looking forward to rubbing this thread in your face for another year.
Sure thing Wile E Pizzaboy.
I haven't felt this way for a year. I have come to the conclusion you are a c unt rather recently after the umpteenth dishonest bullshit you made me read. You are a lying, stupid sack of shit.
Pavlov
03-07-2018, 06:27 PM
If you've felt this way for a year what does that say about your self control? I hope you stick around RG I'm looking forward to rubbing this thread in your face for another year.What are you saying will happen?
Chris
03-07-2018, 06:38 PM
Get your own catchphrase..
lol forum nazi making demands
I was talking about the Steele memos.
You're saying Steele memo good if it seems to support your conspiracy theory -- correct?
No one ever mentioned the others you're trying to use to confuse the issue.
It's common knowledge that most of the Steele dossier is fabricated.
Pavlov
03-07-2018, 06:39 PM
lol forum nazi making demandsIt's a suggestion. Your blatant copying is sad.
It's common knowledge that most of the Steele dossier is fabricated.
You're saying Steele memo good if it seems to support your conspiracy theory -- correct?
Chris
03-07-2018, 06:43 PM
It's a suggestion. Your blatant copying is sad.
What's sad is you trying to make it personal. Per par.
You're saying Steele memo good if it seems to support your conspiracy theory -- correct?
You're saying evidence is bad when it points to corruption within the DNC. I'm saying that Seth Rich was responsible for the leak, and isn't it curious that it was mentioned in an unreleased memo? You can go back to finger pointing now.
Pavlov
03-07-2018, 07:01 PM
What's sad is you trying to make it personal. Per par.Nah, the copying is sad. I know you have no independent political thoughts, but come on....
You're saying evidence is bad when it points to corruption within the DNC. I'm saying that Seth Rich was responsible for the leak, and isn't it curious that it was mentioned in an unreleased memo? You can go back to finger pointing now.Actually that wouldn't point to corruption within the DNC; it would point to Russian infiltration of the DNC.
You sure you want to go down that road, Chris?
I'm fine with it.
lol
Chris
03-07-2018, 07:11 PM
Nah, the copying is sad. I know you have no independent political thoughts, but come on....
Cub really did a number on you didn't he?
Actually that wouldn't point to corruption within the DNC; it would point to Russian infiltration of the DNC.
You sure you want to go down that road, Chris?
I'm fine with it.
lol
That blanket statement/opinion thingy again. You can have that.
Pavlov
03-07-2018, 07:12 PM
Cub really did a number on you didn't he?Nope.
That blanket statement/opinion thingy again. You can have that.It's what the memo says and you think that memo is gold.
Chris thinks the Russians infiltrated the DNC.
Chris
03-07-2018, 07:25 PM
Nope.
Yep.
It's what the memo says and you think that memo is gold.
Chris thinks the Russians infiltrated the DNC.
You are having trouble differentiating between the Steele Dossier and an unreleased memo. That's OK. :tu
Pavlov
03-07-2018, 07:38 PM
You are having trouble differentiating between the Steele Dossier and an unreleased memo. That's OK. :tuThey're all memos, Chris.
You think the ones that seem to support your conspiracy theory are the bestest and gospel truth evidence.
In other words, Steele memo good.
Chris
03-07-2018, 08:17 PM
They're all memos, Chris.
You think the ones that seem to support your conspiracy theory are the bestest and gospel truth evidence.
In other words, Steele memo good.
Sorry, your blanket statement still has no merit no matter how many times you repeat or sugar coat it. My position is clear. You remain in the shadows with the denizens of the swamp.
djohn2oo8
03-07-2018, 08:19 PM
971533781336076288
Lordy have mercy!!!!!
djohn2oo8
03-07-2018, 08:20 PM
971536114644279296
djohn2oo8
03-07-2018, 08:21 PM
971547307723272192
Lordy!!!!!!!!
djohn2oo8
03-07-2018, 08:22 PM
971548669634842624
If you say it I love it!!!!
Pavlov
03-07-2018, 08:38 PM
Sorry, your blanket statement still has no merit no matter how many times you repeat or sugar coat it. My position is clear. You remain in the shadows with the denizens of the swamp.Which Steele memos are good in your opinion?
Pavlov
03-07-2018, 08:39 PM
971533781336076288
Lordy have mercy!!!!!
971536114644279296This is the stupidest president we have ever had.
Pavlov
03-07-2018, 09:05 PM
:lol following the money
http://www.elportal.com.do/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/punta-cana.png
Here's Bill and George relaxing in the Dominican Republic
http://www.elportal.com.do/en/bill-clinton-piscina-resort-punta-cana-acompanado-george-nader/
George Nader is a listed donor for the Clinton Foundation and the Clinton Foundation took in over $10 million from the UAE while Hillary was Secretary of State.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/clinton-foundation-donor-list/
George Nader, a Lebanese American businessman who helped organize and attended the Seychelles meeting, has testified on the matter before a grand jury gathering evidence about discussions between the Trump transition team and emissaries of the Kremlin, as part of Mueller’s investigation into Russian efforts to interfere with the 2016 election.
Nader began cooperating with Mueller after he arrived at Dulles International Airport in mid-January and was stopped, served with a subpoena and questioned by the FBI, these people said. He has met numerous times with investigators.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/mueller-gathers-evidence-that-2016-seychelles-meeting-was-effort-to-establish-back-channel-to-kremlin/2018/03/07/b6a5fb8c-224b-11e8-94da-ebf9d112159c_story.html?utm_term=.a200f3798c20
HE WAS WORKING AS A SECRET AGENT FOR THE CLINTONS! :wow
Chris
03-07-2018, 09:06 PM
Which Steele memos are good in your opinion?
That "the Russian authorities had been cultivating and supporting US Republican presidential candidate, Donald TRUMP for at least 5 years" and that "the TRUMP operation was both supported and directed by Russian President Vladimir PUTIN." (Dossier, p. 1)
False
That Putin's "aim" with supporting Trump was "to encourage splits and divisions in western alliance." "Its aim was to sow discord and disunity both within the US itself, but more especially within the Transatlantic alliance which was viewed as inimical to Russia's interests."] (Dossier, p. 1-2)
False
That a major goal of the Russians in supporting Trump was "to upset the liberal international status quo, including on Ukraine-related sanctions, which was seriously disadvantaging the country. TRUMP was viewed as divisive in disrupting the whole US political system; anti-Establishment; and a pragmatist with whom they could do business." (Dossier, p. 28-29)
False
That "[s]o far TRUMP has declined various sweetener real estate business deals offered him in Russia in order to further the Kremlin’s cultivation of him. However he and his inner circle have accepted a regular flow of intelligence from the Kremlin, including on his Democratic and other political rivals." (Dossier, p. 1)
Possibly true
That there was a "well-developed conspiracy of co-operation between [the Trump campaign] and the Russian leadership" to defeat "Democratic presidential candidate Hillary CLINTON", and that there was a "Kremlin campaign to aid TRUMP and damage CLINTON"(Dossier, pp. 7, 13)
False
That "in terms of established operational liaison between the TRUMP team and the Kremlin, the emigre confirmed that an intelligence exchange had been running between them for at least 8 years. Within this context PUTIN's priority requirement had been for intelligence on the activities, business and otherwise, in the US of leading Russian oligarchs and their families. TRUMP and his associates duly had obtained and supplied the Kremlin with this information."(Dossier, p. 11)
Possibly true, but doubtful
That "there was a fair amount of anger and resentment within the Republican candidate's team at what was perceived by PUTIN as going beyond the objective of weakening CLINTON and bolstering TRUMP, by attempting to exploit the situation to undermine the US government and democratic system more generally."(Dossier, p. 17)
Possibly true
That "the Republican candidate's campaign manager, Paul MANAFORT" had "managed" the "well-developed conspiracy of co-operation between [the Trump campaign] and the Russian leadership", and that he used "foreign policy advisor, Carter PAGE, and others as intermediaries".(Dossier, p. 7)
Doubtful
That Trump's foreign policy adviser, Carter Page, served as an intermediary for Manafort and had "conceived and promoted" the idea of leaking the stolen DNC emails to WikiLeaks during the 2016 Democratic National Convention. (Dossier, p. 7, 17)
False
That Trump's personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, played a "key role" in the Trump–Russia relationship[3] by arranging cover-ups and "deniable cash payments", and that his role had grown following Manafort's departure from the campaign. (Dossier, pp. 18, 32, 34-35)
Possibly true
That "COHEN now was heavily engaged in a cover up and damage limitation operation in the attempt to prevent the full details of TRUMP’s relationship with Russia being exposed."(Dossier, p. 32)
Doubtful
That Page was instrumental in making a deal for Trump of a 19% stake (ca. $11 billion) in Rosneft oil company in exchange for Trump lifting the anti-Russian sanctions after his election. (Dossier, pp. 31-32)
Doubtful
That "PUTIN motivated by fear and hatred of Hillary CLINTON.... Hillary CLINTON, whom President PUTIN apparently both hated and feared." (Dossier, p. 7)
False
That "TRUMP was viewed as divisive in disrupting the whole US political system; anti-Establishment; and a pragmatist with whom they could do business. As the TRUMP support operation had gained momentum, control of it had passed from the MFA to the FSB and then into the presidential administration where it remained, a reflection of its growing significance over time. There was still a view in the Kremlin that TRUMP would continue as a (divisive) political force even if he lost the presidency and may run for and be elected to another public office."(Dossier, p. 29)
Possibly True
That kompromat exists on Trump in the form of blackmailable acts of paying bribes and engaging in "perverted sexual acts" in Russia.(Dossier, pp. 1-2, 8, 11, 27)
Laughably False
That Trump "hated" Obama so much that he hired the Presidential suite of the Ritz-Carlton Hotel in Moscow and had prostitutes perform a "golden showers" show in front of him in order to defile the bed used by President and Mrs. Obama on a previous visit. This is alleged to have happened in 2013. The alleged incident was reportedly secretly filmed and recorded by the FSB for potential blackmail. (Dossier, p. 2)
Laughably False
That "TRUMP’s unorthodox behavior in Russia over the years had provided the authorities there with enough embarrassing material on the now Republican presidential candidate to be able to blackmail him if they so wished." (Dossier, p. 2)
Laughably False
That "Russians apparently have promised not to use 'kompromat' they hold on TRUMP as leverage, given high levels of voluntary co-operation forthcoming from his team." (Dossier, p. 11)
Laughably False
That Trump had explored the real estate sectors in St Petersburg and Moscow, "but in the end TRUMP had had to settle for the use of extensive sexual services there from local prostitutes rather than business success". (Dossier, p. 8) That "TRUMP had visited St Petersburg on several occasions in the past and had been interested in doing business deals there involving real estate....[T]hat TRUMP had paid bribes there to further his interests but very discreetly and only through affiliated companies, making it very hard to prove.... [T]hat TRUMP had participated in sex parties in the city too, but that all direct witnesses to this recently had been 'silenced' i.e. bribed or coerced to disappear." (Dossier, p. 27)
Laughably False
That Trump's "team were relatively relaxed about" "the negative media publicity surrounding alleged Russian interference in the U.S. election campaign in support of Trump" "because it deflected media and the Democrats' attention away from Trump's business dealings in China and other emerging markets. Unlike in Russia, these were substantial and involved the payment of large bribes and kickbacks which, were they to become public, would be potentially very damaging to their campaign."(Dossier, p. 8)
Possibly true but irrelevant nonetheless
That Putin ordered the keeping of a secret dossier on Hillary Clinton with content dating back to the time of the Clinton presidency and comprised mainly of eavesdropped conversations, some from bugging devices and others from phone intercepts. That it did not contain "details/evidence of unorthodox or embarrassing behavior", but focused more on "things she had said which contradicted her current positions on various issues". That it had been collated by the FSB and was managed by Dmitry Peskov, Putin's press secretary. (Dossier, pp. 1, 3)
Possibly True
That Russia was responsible for the DNC email hacks and the recent appearance of the stolen DNC e-mails on WikiLeaks, and that the reason for using WikiLeaks was "plausible deniability".(Dossier, pp. 7-8)
False (see:Seth Rich)
That "the operation had been conducted with the full knowledge and support of TRUMP and senior members of his campaign team."(Dossier, p. 8)
False
That Trump's foreign policy adviser Carter Page had "conceived and promoted" the idea of "leaking the DNC e-mails to WikiLeaks during the Democratic Convention" "to swing supporters of Bernie SANDERS away from Hillary CLINTON and across to TRUMP."
(Dossier, p. 17)
False
That the hacking of the DNC servers was performed by Romanian hackers ultimately controlled by Putin and paid by both Trump and Putin. (Dossier, pp. 34-35)
False
That Trump's personal attorney, Michael Cohen, had a secret meeting with Kremlin officials in Prague in August 2016, where he arranged "deniable cash payments" to the hackers and sought "to cover up all traces of the hacking operation",[37][23] as well as "cover up ties between Trump and Russia, including Manafort's involvement in Ukraine". (Dossier, pp. 18, 34-35)
False
That former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych, who was pro-Russian and requested Russian military intervention in Ukraine before he fled to Russia in 2014, told Putin he had been making supposedly untraceable "kick-back payments" to Paul Manafort, who was Trump's campaign manager at the time. (Dossier, p. 20)
Possibly True that he said that but doesn't make it true
That in return for Russia's leaking the stolen documents to WikiLeaks, "the TRUMP team had agreed to sideline Russian intervention in Ukraine as a campaign issue and to raise US/NATO defense commitments in the Baltics and Eastern Europe to deflect attention away from Ukraine, a priority for PUTIN who needed to cauterise the subject."(Dossier, pp. 7-8)
False
That "TRUMP advisor Carter PAGE holds secret meetings in Moscow with SECHIN and senior Kremlin Internal Affairs official, DIVYEKIN," and that Igor Sechin offered Carter Page a deal for Trump of a 19% privatized stake (ca. $11 billion) in Rosneft oil company in exchange for Trump lifting the anti-Russian sanctions after his election. It is also alleged that Page confirmed, on Trump's "full authority", that this was Trump's intent.(Dossier, pp. 9, 31-32)
False
That a "leading Russian diplomat, Mikhail KULAGIN, had been withdrawn from Washington at short notice because Moscow feared his heavy involvement in the US presidential election operation… would be exposed in the media there."(Dossier, p. 23)
Possibly True
Pavlov
03-07-2018, 09:08 PM
That "the Russian authorities had been cultivating and supporting US Republican presidential candidate, Donald TRUMP for at least 5 years" and that "the TRUMP operation was both supported and directed by Russian President Vladimir PUTIN." (Dossier, p. 1)
False
That Putin's "aim" with supporting Trump was "to encourage splits and divisions in western alliance." "Its aim was to sow discord and disunity both within the US itself, but more especially within the Transatlantic alliance which was viewed as inimical to Russia's interests."] (Dossier, p. 1-2)
False
That a major goal of the Russians in supporting Trump was "to upset the liberal international status quo, including on Ukraine-related sanctions, which was seriously disadvantaging the country. TRUMP was viewed as divisive in disrupting the whole US political system; anti-Establishment; and a pragmatist with whom they could do business." (Dossier, p. 28-29)
False
That "[s]o far TRUMP has declined various sweetener real estate business deals offered him in Russia in order to further the Kremlin’s cultivation of him. However he and his inner circle have accepted a regular flow of intelligence from the Kremlin, including on his Democratic and other political rivals." (Dossier, p. 1)
Possibly true
That there was a "well-developed conspiracy of co-operation between [the Trump campaign] and the Russian leadership" to defeat "Democratic presidential candidate Hillary CLINTON", and that there was a "Kremlin campaign to aid TRUMP and damage CLINTON"(Dossier, pp. 7, 13)
False
That "in terms of established operational liaison between the TRUMP team and the Kremlin, the emigre confirmed that an intelligence exchange had been running between them for at least 8 years. Within this context PUTIN's priority requirement had been for intelligence on the activities, business and otherwise, in the US of leading Russian oligarchs and their families. TRUMP and his associates duly had obtained and supplied the Kremlin with this information."(Dossier, p. 11)
Possibly true, but doubtful
That "there was a fair amount of anger and resentment within the Republican candidate's team at what was perceived by PUTIN as going beyond the objective of weakening CLINTON and bolstering TRUMP, by attempting to exploit the situation to undermine the US government and democratic system more generally."(Dossier, p. 17)
Possibly true
That "the Republican candidate's campaign manager, Paul MANAFORT" had "managed" the "well-developed conspiracy of co-operation between [the Trump campaign] and the Russian leadership", and that he used "foreign policy advisor, Carter PAGE, and others as intermediaries".(Dossier, p. 7)
Doubtful
That Trump's foreign policy adviser, Carter Page, served as an intermediary for Manafort and had "conceived and promoted" the idea of leaking the stolen DNC emails to WikiLeaks during the 2016 Democratic National Convention. (Dossier, p. 7, 17)
False
That Trump's personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, played a "key role" in the Trump–Russia relationship[3] by arranging cover-ups and "deniable cash payments", and that his role had grown following Manafort's departure from the campaign. (Dossier, pp. 18, 32, 34-35)
Possibly true
That "COHEN now was heavily engaged in a cover up and damage limitation operation in the attempt to prevent the full details of TRUMP’s relationship with Russia being exposed."(Dossier, p. 32)
Doubtful
That Page was instrumental in making a deal for Trump of a 19% stake (ca. $11 billion) in Rosneft oil company in exchange for Trump lifting the anti-Russian sanctions after his election. (Dossier, pp. 31-32)
Doubtful
That "PUTIN motivated by fear and hatred of Hillary CLINTON.... Hillary CLINTON, whom President PUTIN apparently both hated and feared." (Dossier, p. 7)
False
That "TRUMP was viewed as divisive in disrupting the whole US political system; anti-Establishment; and a pragmatist with whom they could do business. As the TRUMP support operation had gained momentum, control of it had passed from the MFA to the FSB and then into the presidential administration where it remained, a reflection of its growing significance over time. There was still a view in the Kremlin that TRUMP would continue as a (divisive) political force even if he lost the presidency and may run for and be elected to another public office."(Dossier, p. 29)
Possibly True
That kompromat exists on Trump in the form of blackmailable acts of paying bribes and engaging in "perverted sexual acts" in Russia.(Dossier, pp. 1-2, 8, 11, 27)
Laughably False
That Trump "hated" Obama so much that he hired the Presidential suite of the Ritz-Carlton Hotel in Moscow and had prostitutes perform a "golden showers" show in front of him in order to defile the bed used by President and Mrs. Obama on a previous visit. This is alleged to have happened in 2013. The alleged incident was reportedly secretly filmed and recorded by the FSB for potential blackmail. (Dossier, p. 2)
Laughably False
That "TRUMP’s unorthodox behavior in Russia over the years had provided the authorities there with enough embarrassing material on the now Republican presidential candidate to be able to blackmail him if they so wished." (Dossier, p. 2)
Laughably False
That "Russians apparently have promised not to use 'kompromat' they hold on TRUMP as leverage, given high levels of voluntary co-operation forthcoming from his team." (Dossier, p. 11)
Laughably False
That Trump had explored the real estate sectors in St Petersburg and Moscow, "but in the end TRUMP had had to settle for the use of extensive sexual services there from local prostitutes rather than business success". (Dossier, p. 8) That "TRUMP had visited St Petersburg on several occasions in the past and had been interested in doing business deals there involving real estate....[T]hat TRUMP had paid bribes there to further his interests but very discreetly and only through affiliated companies, making it very hard to prove.... [T]hat TRUMP had participated in sex parties in the city too, but that all direct witnesses to this recently had been 'silenced' i.e. bribed or coerced to disappear." (Dossier, p. 27)
Laughably False
That Trump's "team were relatively relaxed about" "the negative media publicity surrounding alleged Russian interference in the U.S. election campaign in support of Trump" "because it deflected media and the Democrats' attention away from Trump's business dealings in China and other emerging markets. Unlike in Russia, these were substantial and involved the payment of large bribes and kickbacks which, were they to become public, would be potentially very damaging to their campaign."(Dossier, p. 8)
Possibly true but irrelevant nonetheless
That Putin ordered the keeping of a secret dossier on Hillary Clinton with content dating back to the time of the Clinton presidency and comprised mainly of eavesdropped conversations, some from bugging devices and others from phone intercepts. That it did not contain "details/evidence of unorthodox or embarrassing behavior", but focused more on "things she had said which contradicted her current positions on various issues". That it had been collated by the FSB and was managed by Dmitry Peskov, Putin's press secretary. (Dossier, pp. 1, 3)
Possibly True
That Russia was responsible for the DNC email hacks and the recent appearance of the stolen DNC e-mails on WikiLeaks, and that the reason for using WikiLeaks was "plausible deniability".(Dossier, pp. 7-8)
False (see:Seth Rich)
That "the operation had been conducted with the full knowledge and support of TRUMP and senior members of his campaign team."(Dossier, p. 8)
False
That Trump's foreign policy adviser Carter Page had "conceived and promoted" the idea of "leaking the DNC e-mails to WikiLeaks during the Democratic Convention" "to swing supporters of Bernie SANDERS away from Hillary CLINTON and across to TRUMP."
(Dossier, p. 17)
False
That the hacking of the DNC servers was performed by Romanian hackers ultimately controlled by Putin and paid by both Trump and Putin. (Dossier, pp. 34-35)
False
That Trump's personal attorney, Michael Cohen, had a secret meeting with Kremlin officials in Prague in August 2016, where he arranged "deniable cash payments" to the hackers and sought "to cover up all traces of the hacking operation",[37][23] as well as "cover up ties between Trump and Russia, including Manafort's involvement in Ukraine". (Dossier, pp. 18, 34-35)
False
That former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych, who was pro-Russian and requested Russian military intervention in Ukraine before he fled to Russia in 2014, told Putin he had been making supposedly untraceable "kick-back payments" to Paul Manafort, who was Trump's campaign manager at the time. (Dossier, p. 20)
Possibly True that he said that but doesn't make it true
That in return for Russia's leaking the stolen documents to WikiLeaks, "the TRUMP team had agreed to sideline Russian intervention in Ukraine as a campaign issue and to raise US/NATO defense commitments in the Baltics and Eastern Europe to deflect attention away from Ukraine, a priority for PUTIN who needed to cauterise the subject."(Dossier, pp. 7-8)
False
That "TRUMP advisor Carter PAGE holds secret meetings in Moscow with SECHIN and senior Kremlin Internal Affairs official, DIVYEKIN," and that Igor Sechin offered Carter Page a deal for Trump of a 19% privatized stake (ca. $11 billion) in Rosneft oil company in exchange for Trump lifting the anti-Russian sanctions after his election. It is also alleged that Page confirmed, on Trump's "full authority", that this was Trump's intent.(Dossier, pp. 9, 31-32)
False
That a "leading Russian diplomat, Mikhail KULAGIN, had been withdrawn from Washington at short notice because Moscow feared his heavy involvement in the US presidential election operation… would be exposed in the media there."(Dossier, p. 23)
Possibly True:lol whose blog is this?
Chris
03-07-2018, 09:09 PM
:lol whose blog is this?
You asshole - I just went through the entire dossier.
Pavlov
03-07-2018, 09:13 PM
You asshole - I just went through the entire dossier.You went to Wikipedia.
:lmao
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Lordy!!!!!!!!
So he’d already won the Presidency, and he hadn’t yet established a back channel?
:rollin
Pavlov
03-07-2018, 09:19 PM
So he’d already won the Presidency, and he hadn’t yet established a back channel?
:rollinYeah, he should've had Uday take care of that during the "adoptions" meeting. They were right there.
We'll have to hear from Prince why he lied about the meeting.
Chris
03-07-2018, 09:21 PM
You went to Wikipedia.
:lmao
I used it as a source, yes. The actual 35 page dossier can't be copy and pasted properly. Your predictable 4-5 word retort + emoticon was predictable. Churl.
Pavlov
03-07-2018, 09:25 PM
I used it as a source, yes. The actual 35 page dossier can't be copy and pasted properly. Your predictable 4-5 word retort + emoticon was predictable. Churl.Yeah, just this passage:
"That Page was instrumental in making a deal for Trump of a 19% stake (ca. $11 billion) in Rosneft oil company in exchange for Trump lifting the anti-Russian sanctions after his election."
Is laughably wrong on its own.
But you don't even check.
lol Lazy White Chris
Chris
03-07-2018, 09:29 PM
https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mbhtheatre.co.uk%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F12%2Ftroll-poster_HIRES-672x372.jpg&f=1
Pavlov
03-07-2018, 09:39 PM
That is your white flag.
Yeah, he should've had Uday take care of that during the "adoptions" meeting. They were right there.
We'll have to hear from Prince why he lied about the meeting.
Post election back channel really bolsters pre election collusion.
Pavlov
03-07-2018, 09:45 PM
Post election back channel really bolsters pre election collusion.So why lie about it?
Chris
03-07-2018, 10:10 PM
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djohn2oo8
03-08-2018, 12:21 AM
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My guhhhh
Chris
03-08-2018, 12:26 AM
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I already addressed this. Why didn't you respond to that a few hours ago, Chris? Chicken
Chris
03-08-2018, 12:38 AM
I already addressed this. Why didn't you respond to that a few hours ago, Chris? Chicken
Your crass insinuations concering the @ function? Not worth my time. Me being right about Sessions on the prowl and a second special counsel? Feels good breh
https://media2.giphy.com/media/l3vR7aXoQX0OdHi48/giphy.gif
Pavlov
03-08-2018, 12:46 AM
:lol Chris having to repeat himself.
Chris
03-08-2018, 12:52 AM
:lol Chris having to repeat himself.
lol TSA posted it
Chris
03-08-2018, 12:55 AM
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Pavlov
03-08-2018, 12:55 AM
lol TSA posted it:lol Chris having to repeat TSA.
Chris
03-08-2018, 12:55 AM
:lol Chris having to repeat TSA.
The interview literally just aired. lol Pavlov
djohn2oo8
03-08-2018, 12:57 AM
:lol Chris having to repeat TSA.
:lmao
Pavlov
03-08-2018, 12:57 AM
The interview literally just aired. lol PavlovTSA posted it seven hours ago.
:lol Chris.
djohn2oo8
03-08-2018, 01:04 AM
TSA posted it seven hours ago.
:lol Chris.
:lol Chris
Chris
03-08-2018, 01:05 AM
TSA posted it seven hours ago.
:lol Chris.
Took you two tries to figure everything out. Keep it up lil fella :lol
Pavlov
03-08-2018, 01:07 AM
Took you two tries to figure everything out. Keep it up lil fella :lolTook you only one time to lie. :lol
djohn2oo8
03-08-2018, 01:09 AM
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djohn2oo8
03-08-2018, 01:10 AM
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Your crass insinuations concering the @ function? Not worth my time. Me being right about Sessions on the prowl and a second special counsel? Feels good breh
https://media2.giphy.com/media/l3vR7aXoQX0OdHi48/giphy.gif
It was more than just that. But sure, just focus on one part of that post. :lol
Pavlov
03-08-2018, 01:24 AM
On the prowl?
Fake twitter poet account isn't a very good source tbh.
Chris
03-08-2018, 01:31 AM
It was more than just that. But sure, just focus on one part of that post. :lol
All he said was that he "appointed" a guy to look into it.
Good enough for me :tu
He didn't say he appointed a special counsel with specific mandates. Small details matter, Chris.
Sessions isn't going to give you all the small details. You will just have to wait and see. IG report - exciting!
Pavlov
03-08-2018, 01:32 AM
Good enough for me :tu
Sessions isn't going to give you all the small details. You will just have to wait and see. IG report - exciting!Yeah, they have to actually appoint a special counsel. You can't do that secretly.
Chris
03-08-2018, 01:35 AM
Yeah, they have to actually appoint a special counsel. You can't do that secretly.
Nunes talking indictments. Exciting!
Pavlov
03-08-2018, 01:36 AM
Nunes talking indictments. Exciting!Nunes can't indict anyone.
Chris
03-08-2018, 01:37 AM
Nunes can't indict anyone.
I meant subpoenas.
djohn2oo8
03-08-2018, 08:32 AM
I meant subpoenas.
Damn you can't get anything right can you? :lol
boutons_deux
03-08-2018, 08:42 AM
Russian propaganda is rampant on Reddit. Here's why that matters.
https://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/uploader/image/2018/03/07/reddit-russia-3.png
https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2018/03/07/Russian-propaganda-is-rampant-on-Reddit-Heres-why-that-matters/219576?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MediaMattersForAmerica-CountyFair+%28Media+Matters+for+America+-+Blog%29
djohn2oo8
03-08-2018, 08:47 AM
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djohn2oo8
03-08-2018, 10:12 AM
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RandomGuy
03-08-2018, 10:24 AM
So why lie about it?
Speaking of lying...
Remember that Nader guy who is now a cooperating witness. He is saying that Prince lied to Congress under oath. That is enough reason to drag his ass into Mueller's crosshairs.
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...it turns out Erik Prince lied his face off about his January 2017 Russian conspiracy meeting in the Seychelles. Did he lie about other stuff too? Oh, we bet! But we officially know he lied about his meeting with Russian rich dude Kirill Dmitriev, head of a Russian state-owned investment fund.
The Washington Post broke the news late Wednesday:
Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III has gathered evidence that a secret meeting in Seychelles just before the inauguration of Donald Trump was an effort to establish a back channel between the incoming administration and the Kremlin [….]
In January 2017, Erik Prince, the founder of the private security company Blackwater, met with a Russian official close to Russian President Vladi*mir Putin and later described the meeting to congressional investigators as a chance encounter that was not a planned discussion of U.S.-Russia relations.
A witness cooperating with Mueller has told investigators the meeting was set up in advance so that a representative of the Trump transition could meet with an emissary from Moscow to discuss future relations between the countries, according to the people familiar with the matter, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive matters.
George Nader, a Lebanese American businessman who helped organize and attended the Seychelles meeting, has testified on the matter before a grand jury gathering evidence about discussions between the Trump transition team and emissaries of the Kremlin, as part of Mueller’s investigation into Russian efforts to interfere with the 2016 election.
Read more at https://wonkette.com/630951/youre-not-gonna-believe-this-but-erik-prince-lied-to-congress#zp5obUV53oBb2XJl.99
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NO COLLUSION, YOU'RE THE COLLUSION!!!! Why lie about this shit?
RandomGuy
03-08-2018, 10:24 AM
Nunes talking indictments. Exciting!
Nunes can't indict anyone.
I meant subpoenas.
:rollin
RandomGuy
03-08-2018, 10:27 AM
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I'm sure it's all connected to Hillary somehow. :rollin
RandomGuy
03-08-2018, 10:33 AM
Prince says he met with the guy because his Emirati pals said he should, since the Russian was there to visit with them too. What a lucky duck that the sheik’s people invited them both to Seychelles at the same time! Erik Prince’s God works in mysterious ways.
And how did Prince’s rendezvous with the Russian come about? It was totally chill, bro! One of the sheik’s brothers told him to go meet the guy, but didn’t personally introduce them. Said he’d be in the bar. So Erik Prince had dinner (he thinks he was by himself), then he went to the bar and asked Jeeves to find a picture of the guy, because the last thing you want to do in Seychelles is start hitting on the wrong Russian dude. (Literally he says he Googled the guy’s picture.) He thinks they were alone, but maybe the Russian’s wife was there. He can’t remember. “I think she was there for the first few minutes, and then she left.” Who the fuck knows? Not Erik Prince.
After his ONE BEER WITH THE RUSSIAN, he said “Seacrest out!” and went to the gym, to tone his sexxx body. He remembers that part!
Amusingly, in his testimony, Prince did seem to accidentally suggest that intel intercepts of the meeting might blow his cover story. His cover story also seemed to accidentally suggest that he and the Russian talked about ripping up the US sanctions on Russia, which is kind of the entire quid pro quo that seems to be at the heart of the plan to install Trump as America’s first Dipshit Emperor:
https://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/prince2.png
How would one achieve “normal trade relations” between Russia and the US and A? DING DING DING, FIRST STEP IS GET RID OF SANCTIONS!
Out of all the Trump people who are going to prison, we think we will enjoy watching Little Golden Boy Erik’s perp walk the best, because he is just ABOVE ALL THIS, or at least he thinks he is.
Read more at https://wonkette.com/630951/youre-not-gonna-believe-this-but-erik-prince-lied-to-congress#zp5obUV53oBb2XJl.99
Read more at https://wonkette.com/630951/youre-not-gonna-believe-this-but-erik-prince-lied-to-congress#zp5obUV53oBb2XJl.99
RandomGuy
03-08-2018, 10:42 AM
We’re Not Saying Devin Nunes Leaked To Michael Cohen. But We’re Not Saying He *Didn’t*!
Now, we know that Devin Nunes is just a simple Udder Grabber, but he’s been in Congress long enough to know that leaking witness testimony is not a thing. And we can’t prove that Congressman Nunes is the one who leaked Kramer’s testimony, but the guy who ninja’d out of an uber to get leaked info from the White House to give to the White House and immediately held a press conference on the White House lawn pretending to “break” that news is at the top of our list of suspects!
Via The Daily Beast:
A few days after Kramer’s testimony, his lawyer, Larry Robbins, got a strange call. The call was from Stephen Ryan, a lawyer who represents Trump’s longtime personal attorney Michael Cohen. Cohen is facing scrutiny from special counsel Robert Mueller and congressional investigators regarding potential coordination between Trump’s team and the Kremlin. He featured prominently in the Steele dossier — the document that Kramer handled — and is suing BuzzFeed for publishing it.
Ryan told Robbins he reached out because someone from the House told him that Robbins’ client, Kramer, had information about the Steele dossier that could help Cohen.
Robbins declined to help. Ryan then asked Robbins not to tell the House intel committee about their conversation.
Read more at https://wonkette.com/630928/were-not-saying-devin-nunes-leaked-to-michael-cohen-but-were-not-saying-he-didnt#PKbLOZcto36utf3B.99
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Nunes is conducting fake oversight, and appears to view his job as shielding the president.
hater
03-08-2018, 11:20 AM
800 pages of nothing burgers :lmao
Poor guys if they had made a dollar for each nothing burger theyd me millionaires
Instead all they have is inflated post counts :lmao
RandomGuy
03-08-2018, 11:27 AM
Trump Spoke to Witnesses About Matters They Discussed With Special Counsel
WASHINGTON — The special counsel in the Russia investigation has learned of two conversations in recent months in which President Trump asked key witnesses about matters they discussed with investigators, according to three people familiar with the encounters.
In one episode, the president told an aide that the White House counsel, Donald F. McGahn II, should issue a statement denying a New York Times article in January. The article said Mr. McGahn told investigators that the president once asked him to fire the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III. Mr. McGahn never released a statement and later had to remind the president that he had indeed asked Mr. McGahn to see that Mr. Mueller was dismissed, the people said.
The episodes demonstrate that even as the special counsel investigation appears to be intensifying, the president has ignored his lawyers’ advice to avoid doing anything publicly or privately that could create the appearance of interfering with it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/07/us/politics/trump-witnesses-special-counsel-priebus-mcgahn.html
Each new interaction increases the risk that the President of the United States has stepped over the line into obstruction of justice territory. He just can't help himself, and will likely keep doing this.
Legal experts said Mr. Trump’s contact with the men most likely did not rise to the level of witness tampering. But witnesses and lawyers who learned about the conversations viewed them as potentially a problem and shared them with Mr. Mueller.
RandomGuy
03-08-2018, 11:34 AM
[secret meetings that those involved lied under oath about don't suggest any wrong doing prior to the secret meeting]
:rollin
The experts said the meetings with Mr. McGahn and Mr. Priebus would probably sharpen Mr. Mueller’s focus on the president’s interactions with other witnesses. The special counsel has questioned witnesses recently about their interactions with the president since the investigation began. The experts also said the episodes could serve as evidence for Mr. Mueller in an obstruction case.
“It makes it look like you’re cooking a story, and prosecutors are always looking out for it,” said Julie R. O’Sullivan, a law professor at Georgetown University and expert on white-collar criminal investigations.
djohn2oo8
03-08-2018, 12:16 PM
800 pages of nothing burgers :lmao
Poor guys if they had made a dollar for each nothing burger theyd me millionaires
Instead all they have is inflated post counts :lmao
Because facing federal jail time is a nothingburger. Shame that Nunesmemo didn't turn out like you wanted. The real nothingburger.
boutons_deux
03-08-2018, 12:52 PM
Nunes is conducting fake oversight, and appears to view his job as shielding the president.
Duh, been blatantly obvious since Nunes ran his committe, testimony info up to Trash in the night
RandomGuy
03-08-2018, 12:54 PM
Duh, been blatantly obvious since Nunes ran his committe, testimony info up to Trash in the night
Pretty much. Nunes is an embarrassment.
That appears to be what Republicans want in their representatives. Ignorant toadies, and proud of it. smh
:rollin
Like I said yesterday, you have no self control. You just can't quit me.
Speaking of lying...
Remember that Nader guy who is now a cooperating witness. He is saying that Prince lied to Congress under oath. That is enough reason to drag his ass into Mueller's crosshairs.
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...it turns out Erik Prince lied his face off about his January 2017 Russian conspiracy meeting in the Seychelles. Did he lie about other stuff too? Oh, we bet! But we officially know he lied about his meeting with Russian rich dude Kirill Dmitriev, head of a Russian state-owned investment fund.
The Washington Post broke the news late Wednesday:
Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III has gathered evidence that a secret meeting in Seychelles just before the inauguration of Donald Trump was an effort to establish a back channel between the incoming administration and the Kremlin [….]
In January 2017, Erik Prince, the founder of the private security company Blackwater, met with a Russian official close to Russian President Vladi*mir Putin and later described the meeting to congressional investigators as a chance encounter that was not a planned discussion of U.S.-Russia relations.
A witness cooperating with Mueller has told investigators the meeting was set up in advance so that a representative of the Trump transition could meet with an emissary from Moscow to discuss future relations between the countries, according to the people familiar with the matter, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive matters.
George Nader, a Lebanese American businessman who helped organize and attended the Seychelles meeting, has testified on the matter before a grand jury gathering evidence about discussions between the Trump transition team and emissaries of the Kremlin, as part of Mueller’s investigation into Russian efforts to interfere with the 2016 election.
Read more at https://wonkette.com/630951/youre-not-gonna-believe-this-but-erik-prince-lied-to-congress#zp5obUV53oBb2XJl.99
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NO COLLUSION, YOU'RE THE COLLUSION!!!! Why lie about this shit?
Post election back channel really bolsters pre election collusion.
RandomGuy spamming Wonkette articles. This thread has reached an all time low.
djohn2oo8
03-08-2018, 01:31 PM
Post election back channel really bolsters pre election collusion.
You never addressed why Team Trump was looking to connect with the Kremlin. Are they an ally? Why lie about it?
Pavlov
03-08-2018, 01:38 PM
RandomGuy spamming Wonkette articles. This thread has reached an all time low.What is your position on Susan Rice today?
djohn2oo8
03-08-2018, 02:25 PM
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Pavlov
03-08-2018, 02:27 PM
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TSA's president for life, everyone.
spurraider21
03-08-2018, 02:33 PM
971778034289250304.
:lol thats pretty funny
You never addressed why Team Trump was looking to connect with the Kremlin. Are they an ally? Why lie about it?
Diplomacy is still important even if a country isn't an ally. Russia in not an ally. You don't kill 200+ and arm the opposition of an ally. I can't answer for Prince.
I answered all your questions don't run away from this. Explain how Team Trump colluded with Russia during the election when they were still trying to set up a back channel after the election.
CosmicCowboy
03-08-2018, 02:35 PM
What is your position on Susan Rice today?
Susan Rice will forever be remembered for whoring out her integrity making the talk show rounds blaming Ambassador Stevens death on "that movie".
clambake
03-08-2018, 02:37 PM
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should this say rice instead of manafort?
Pavlov
03-08-2018, 02:38 PM
Susan Rice will forever be remembered for whoring out her integrity making the talk show rounds blaming Ambassador Stevens death on "that movie".CC yawns about 14 dead kids but jumps to chime in here unsolicited.
AG Jeff Sessions revealed tonight in an interview with Shannon Bream, that he previously appointed a DOJ official to investigate the issues delivered by Chairman Bob Goodlatte (House Judiciary), prior to receiving the request for a Special Counsel from Chairman Goodlatte and Trey Gowdy
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“Well, I have great respect for Mr. Gowdy and Chairman Goodlatte, and we are going to consider seriously their recommendations. I have appointed a person outside of Washington, many years in the Department of Justice to look at all the allegations that the House Judiciary Committee members sent to us; and we’re conducting that investigation.
Also I am well aware we have a responsibility to insure the integrity of the FISA process, we’re not afraid to look at that. The inspector general, some think that our inspector general is not very strong; but he has almost 500 employees, most of which are lawyers and prosecutors; and they are looking at the FISA process. We must make sure that it’s done properly, and we’re going to do that. And I’ll consider their request.”
Well, there you have it. There is already an appointed person, likely a prosecutor, from “outside of Washington”, in place prior to the recent request for a Special Counsel by Goodlatte and Gowdy. That was exactly what an objective analysis of the events previously outlined – and we previously noted.
Attorney Jeff Sessions is noting the existence of an outside prosecutor who has been in place for quite a while, exactly as we thought. All the evidence of this was/is clear if you follow the granular details closely. Here’s how we figure it out; and also the reason why no-one in Washington DC -including congress and the president- was previously aware.
♦#1) The DOJ Inspector General (Michael Horowitz) has an obligation to notify his superiors when he/she discovers illegal activity, or conduct that is likely unlawful, while conducting an internal investigation. The IG cannot sit on knowledge or evidence of likely criminal conduct, just because he/she is conducting an investigation. This is the same reason why IG Horowitz had to inform Special Counsel Robert Mueller in July of 2017 of the potentially unlawful conduct of members on his team (Lisa Page and Peter Strzok).
♦#2) The same people under investigation within the IG purview (FBI and DOJ officials) are transparently cooperating with the Inspector General. That cooperation, in combination with a likelihood of unlawful conduct, would require a DOJ official (prosecutor) to be assigned to negotiate and outline the DOJ legal terms of investigative compliance. The person negotiating the terms for cooperation would NOT be the Inspector General; because of the potential for criminal charges related to the investigated individuals, it would be the job of a DOJ career prosecutor to comply with legal needs.
♦#3) Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Bruce and Nellie Ohr and Bill Priestap have quotes inside the HPSCI memos. Those quotes come from investigative interviews; no congressional committee has interviewed those persons. Those would be a few of the people in #2 above; and their testimony to Horowitz and a DOJ Prosecutor, would make them witnesses in a criminal investigation. That explains why they have not given interviews to congressional committees. The DOJ needs to keep the integrity of their testimony inside the investigative unit. (ie. in the control of the DOJ official from outside Washington that Jeff Sessions notes).
♦#4) President Trump is the chief executive over the DOJ and FBI; however, in this odd dynamic he is also the victim within the conspiracy as potentially outlined by the investigation. Therefore, again to protect the integrity of the investigation and witness testimony, the victim would be kept at arms length and not informed of the criminal investigation. That’s why POTUS Trump doesn’t know; and AG Sessions must keep distance from any discussion with the executive due to this separation.
♦#5) Cooperating witness testimony in a criminal investigation also means congress would not know of the details. Congress (Nunes, Gowdy and Goodlatte) wouldn’t even know a criminal investigation was opened. The prosecutor works parallel with, but separate from, the IG investigation. Congress would know of the IG, but not the prosecutor. This interview by AG Sessions is the first indication congress would have of a DOJ official already looking at the criminal issues.
♦#6) And the most transparent reason why we know there’s a DOJ prosecutor already on the case is because Jeff Sessions just said there was.
Additionally on February 27th, 2018, Attorney General Jeff Sessions held a press briefing to announce the opioid task force (video below). During the Q&A segment of the presser, Fox News Catherine Herridge asked AG Sessions if the FISA court abuses outlined by Chairman Devin Nunes, Chairman Bob Goodlatte and Chairman Chuck Grassley would be investigated by the DOJ.
Attorney General Sessions affirms the FISA court abuse by the DOJ and FBI will indeed be investigated and prosecuted and directed attention to Inspector General Michael Horowitz. [watch at 37:57 of video – prompted]
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This February 27th mention by AG Jeff Sessions WAS NOT NEWS.
This earlier admission is exactly what those who have followed closely will note has seemed to be the direction since mid-year 2017. As AG Sessions affirms, IG Horowitz is NOT limited in scope. Horowitz is investigating *all* avenues of politicization within the DOJ and FBI and abuse therein; this includes FISA abuse. Add this to General Sessions’ answer today about the appointment of a DOJ official from outside Washington, and you can clearly see the IG and appointed prosecutor have been working together for quite some time.
How long?
Likely since the time when IG Horowitz informed the AG and AAG that he may have discovered significant evidence of unlawful conduct within the DOJ and FBI. That would be around July/August 2017.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/03/08/attorney-general-jeff-sessions-confirms-prior-appointment-of-doj-prosecutor-to-parallel-ig-horowitz-not-a-special-counsel/
Pavlov
03-08-2018, 02:54 PM
His Publix law degree sure came in handy.
Brazil
03-08-2018, 02:56 PM
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TSA's president for life, everyone.
:lmao
spurraider21
03-08-2018, 03:08 PM
did Flynn withdraw his guilty plea yet?
Chris
03-08-2018, 03:09 PM
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Pavlov
03-08-2018, 03:10 PM
971837122012434435Why doesn't he just tell the story now?
Chris
03-08-2018, 03:10 PM
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Pavlov
03-08-2018, 03:11 PM
did Flynn withdraw his guilty plea yet?He's selling his house so he can hire the high powered law firm of Albertson, Von and Randall.
Chris
03-08-2018, 03:11 PM
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CosmicCowboy
03-08-2018, 03:12 PM
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About 10 years too late.
Pavlov
03-08-2018, 03:12 PM
971828236643598337LEAKS BAD NOW
BLAST
spurraider21
03-08-2018, 03:14 PM
971837122012434435
has he withdrawn his guilty plea yet?
Chris
03-08-2018, 03:15 PM
About 10 years too late.
Songbird should have been chased off a long time ago. Corrupt to the gills.
Pavlov
03-08-2018, 03:16 PM
Songbird should have been chased off a long time ago. Corrupt to the gills.What are your charges of corruption against him, Chris?
Chris
03-08-2018, 03:22 PM
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clambake
03-08-2018, 03:25 PM
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.....that will turn into a plea for mercy.
Pavlov
03-08-2018, 03:26 PM
971830889880735745Do you think he's not guilty, Chris?
Chris
03-08-2018, 03:27 PM
.....that will turn into a plea for mercy.
Doubt it.
RandomGuy
03-08-2018, 03:32 PM
Songbird should have been chased off a long time ago. Corrupt to the gills.
Corrupt?
Like he was selling out his office for personal gain?
You're right. People who do that should be run out of office.
What should we do with a president who is whoring out his office? Do tell.
RandomGuy
03-08-2018, 03:33 PM
.....that will turn into a plea for mercy.
Manafort will fold when his daughter gets dragged into it, and she will. "Unnamed person C"
Chris
03-08-2018, 03:33 PM
Corrupt?
Like he was selling out his office for personal gain?
You're right. People who do that should be run out of office.
What should we do with a president who is whoring out his office? Do tell.
Kneel before Zod.
Chris
03-08-2018, 03:34 PM
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djohn2oo8
03-08-2018, 03:42 PM
Diplomacy is still important even if a country isn't an ally. Russia in not an ally. You don't kill 200+ and arm the opposition of an ally. I can't answer for Prince.
I answered all your questions don't run away from this. Explain how Team Trump colluded with Russia during the election when they were still trying to set up a back channel after the election.
Diplomacy with the Kremlin. Why a backchannel? :lol
Oh that's right. Jr, and Manafort met with the Kremlin Lawyer Natasha Russianbitch to get dirt on Hillary. That was a piss poor response TSA.
Diplomacy with the Kremlin. Why a backchannel? :lol
Oh that's right. Jr, and Manafort met with the Kremlin Lawyer Natasha Russianbitch to get dirt on Hillary. That was a piss poor response TSA.
You didn’t even attempt to answer so I can’t even call your response piss poor. Try again.
Explain how Team Trump colluded with Russia during the election when they were still trying to set up a back channel after the election.
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♦#3) Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Bruce and Nellie Ohr and Bill Priestap have quotes inside the HPSCI memos. Those quotes come from investigative interviews; no congressional committee has interviewed those persons. Those would be a few of the people in #2 above; and their testimony to Horowitz and a DOJ Prosecutor, would make them witnesses in a criminal investigation. That explains why they have not given interviews to congressional committees. The DOJ needs to keep the integrity of their testimony inside the investigative unit. (ie. in the control of the DOJ official from outside Washington that Jeff Sessions notes).
https://media.giphy.com/media/fDzM81OYrNjJC/giphy.gif
Pavlov
03-08-2018, 04:03 PM
♦#3) Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Bruce and Nellie Ohr and Bill Priestap have quotes inside the HPSCI memos. Those quotes come from investigative interviews; no congressional committee has interviewed those persons. Those would be a few of the people in #2 above; and their testimony to Horowitz and a DOJ Prosecutor, would make them witnesses in a criminal investigation. That explains why they have not given interviews to congressional committees. The DOJ needs to keep the integrity of their testimony inside the investigative unit. (ie. in the control of the DOJ official from outside Washington that Jeff Sessions notes).
https://media.giphy.com/media/fDzM81OYrNjJC/giphy.gifAnd you won't say anything about what charges will be brought against anyone.
:lol TSA
Chris
03-08-2018, 04:13 PM
♦#3) Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Bruce and Nellie Ohr and Bill Priestap have quotes inside the HPSCI memos. Those quotes come from investigative interviews; no congressional committee has interviewed those persons. Those would be a few of the people in #2 above; and their testimony to Horowitz and a DOJ Prosecutor, would make them witnesses in a criminal investigation. That explains why they have not given interviews to congressional committees. The DOJ needs to keep the integrity of their testimony inside the investigative unit. (ie. in the control of the DOJ official from outside Washington that Jeff Sessions notes).
https://media.giphy.com/media/fDzM81OYrNjJC/giphy.gif
"AG Sessions is currently mulling action 'much broader than a second special counsel' to probe not only FISA abuse but political bias during the FBI's Clinton email investigation"
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Pavlov
03-08-2018, 04:15 PM
971853579601530880
:lol Paulie Two-Clamps
dabom
03-08-2018, 04:24 PM
971853579601530880
:lol Paulie Two-Clamps
:lol
Manafort is truly a dumb fuck.
And you won't say anything about what charges will be brought against anyone.
:lol TSA
Does me saying or not saying anything about what charges will be brought have any impact on the outcome yes or no?
Chris
03-08-2018, 05:19 PM
971864811146444805
Pavlov
03-08-2018, 05:19 PM
Does me saying or not saying anything about what charges will be brought have any impact on the outcome yes or no?:lol TSA mad
It's OK, pumpkin. The bad lady is going to jail.
Somehow.
lol
Chris
03-08-2018, 05:23 PM
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RandomGuy
03-08-2018, 05:24 PM
Kneel before Zod.
What should we do with a president who is whoring out his office? Do tell.
Chris
03-08-2018, 05:25 PM
What should we do with a president who is whoring out his office? Do tell.
Vote for him in 2020.
"AG Sessions is currently mulling action 'much broader than a second special counsel' to probe not only FISA abuse but political bias during the FBI's Clinton email investigation"
971776813927141376
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:lol TSA mad
It's OK, pumpkin. The bad lady is going to jail.
Somehow.
lol
Why would I be mad? And why do you constantly project emotions to others?
Pavlov
03-08-2018, 05:40 PM
Why would I be mad?Because nothing goes the way you actually want or predict it to.
And why do you constantly project emotions to others?Just describing you.
Sorry the bad lady hasn't been indicted for eating children.
boutons_deux
03-08-2018, 05:44 PM
Russians Released Anti-Clinton Video Game Weeks Before Election, Tracked Players
https://am11.akamaized.net/med/cnt/uploads/2018/03/hillary.jpg
Russians created an anti-Hillary Clinton video game during her campaign against now-President Donald Trump, replete with flying emails, “Arab” money and FBI agents.
The game, absurdly titled “Hilltendo,” may look like a simple flash game, the kind that populated the Internet in the early 2000s, but, according to CNN (http://money.cnn.com/2018/03/08/technology/hilltendo-russians-anti-clinton-video-game/index.html),
there are some sophisticated, and potentially sinister, things going on under the hood.
The news organization tasked programmers and cybersecurity experts to look at the game’s code and they found some strange stuff, including
trackers that would violate the privacy of players,
watching their social media behavior and
issuing micro-targeted ads based on that behavior.
https://www.mediaite.com/weird/russians-released-anti-clinton-video-game-weeks-before-election-tracked-players/
Because nothing goes the way you actually want or predict it to.
Just describing you.
Sorry the bad lady hasn't been indicted for eating children.
I don't get mad about failed predictions on a sports message board. A failed prediction in front of a bunch of anonymous people online has zero impact on my life. The fact that you think it does reveals more about yourself and how invested you are in this message board.
djohn2oo8
03-08-2018, 06:06 PM
TSA won't even post his predictions anymore :lmao
TSA won't even post his predictions anymore :lmao
And you won't even attempt to explain how Team Trump colluded with Russia during the election when they were still trying to set up a back channel after the election. If there was no back channel with Russia before and during the election how was Trump colluding with Russia before and during the election?
TSA won't even post his predictions anymore :lmao
Reduced to hyping Chris's articles and tweets while having no take at all. Pussy move.
TSA won't even post his predictions anymore :lmao
I predict I'll win our $500 bet and you'll welch just like your pal Reck did.
Pavlov
03-08-2018, 06:11 PM
I don't get mad about failed predictions on a sports message board. A failed prediction in front of a bunch of anonymous people online has zero impact on my life. The fact that you think it does reveals more about yourself and how invested you are in this message board.Eh, you keep trying to make dem bets.
That reveals how invested you are in this message board you claim has zero impact on your life.
Reduced to hyping Chris's articles and tweets while having no take at all. Pussy move.
Pussy move says the confirmed welcher :rollin
Here's your chance to give a take because I'm sure your pal djohn is too pussy to give his.
If there was no back channel with Russia before and during the election how was Trump colluding with Russia before and during the election?
Chris
03-08-2018, 06:11 PM
Reck is a welsher? :lmao
Eh, you keep trying to make dem bets.
That reveals how invested you are in this message board you claim has zero impact on your life.
OMG a poster on a sports message board is offering bets who would have ever thought a sports fan would be interested in making bets.
Reck is a welsher? :lmao
Confirmed
Pavlov
03-08-2018, 06:14 PM
Pussy move says the confirmed welcher :rollin
Here's your chance to give a take because I'm sure your pal djohn is too pussy to give his.
If there was no back channel with Russia before and during the election how was Trump colluding with Russia before and during the election?Hypothetically, I'm not sure criminals would want to keep using the same lines of communication they used in the commission of a crime -- but maybe the Publix School of Law teaches things differently.
Pavlov
03-08-2018, 06:15 PM
OMG a poster on a sports message board is offering bets who would have ever thought a sports fan would be interested in making bets.Touchy.
Defensive.
Pussy move says the confirmed welcher :rollin
Here's your chance to give a take because I'm sure your pal djohn is too pussy to give his.
If there was no back channel with Russia before and during the election how was Trump colluding with Russia before and during the election?
That's right, you're a pussy and a degenerate gambler who only knows how to lose. As you have proven with all you loss bets. Including to me. I cucked you. :lol
Such a mindfuck that I'm still living rent free in your head 2 years later. :lmao
That's right, you're a pussy and a degenerate gambler who only knows how to lose. As you have proven with all you loss bets. Including to me. I cucked you. :lol
Such a mindfuck that I'm still living rent free in your head 2 years later. :lmao
You used rent free incorrectly.
You used degenerate incorrectly.
You used lose incorrectly as I won our bet.
You used cuck incorrectly as you didn't cuck anyone you welched.
Hypothetically, I'm not sure criminals would want to keep using the same lines of communication they used in the commission of a crime -- but maybe the Publix School of Law teaches things differently.
Any line of communication between Trump and Russia would be considered a back channel. There was no line of communication between Trump and Russia before or during the election. How would Trump collude with Russia before and during the election with no line of communication?
boutons_deux
03-08-2018, 06:24 PM
How would Trump collude with Russia before and during the election with no line of communication?
:lol goddamn, you're fucking stupid.
Pavlov
03-08-2018, 06:26 PM
Any line of communication between Trump and Russia would be considered a back channel. There was no line of communication between Trump and Russia before or during the election. How would Trump collude with Russia before and during the election with no line of communication?As expected, the Publix School of Law does have a different definition of back channel communications.
Doesn't change anything I said.
Sorry.
You used rent free incorrectly.
You used degenerate incorrectly.
You used lose incorrectly as I won our bet.
You used cuck incorrectly as you didn't cuck anyone you welched.
No, no, no and no.
If you're still thinking about that loser bet and it still bothering you, I am 100% living in there rent free. That's the ultimate definition of rent free. Specially since that was like what? 2 Years ago? :lol
You're a degenerate gambler because even though you lose 99% of your bets, you keep on making even more bets with money you will lose when in reality that money should be going toward raising your child.
You have lost bets, do I even need to point out which?
Chris
03-08-2018, 06:29 PM
That's right, you're a pussy and a degenerate gambler who only knows how to lose. As you have proven with all you loss bets. Including to me. I cucked you. :lol
Such a mindfuck that I'm still living rent free in your head 2 years later. :lmao
You should be ashamed. Welshers are not looked at favorably on this board. Ask Kool-Aid Man :lol Your word means nothing. Shame.
No, no, no and no.
If you're still thinking about that loser bet and it still bothering you, I am 100% living in there rent free. That's the ultimate definition of rent free. Specially since that was like what? 2 Years ago? :lol
You're a degenerate gambler because even though you lose 99% of your bets, you keep on making even more bets with money you will lose when in reality that money should be going toward raising your child.
You have lost bets, do I even need to point out which?
You're an idiot. Remembering you welched does not fit the definition of "rent free", that is simply called remembering. It doesn't bother me one bit as I get to laugh at you and call you a welcher, which you are. I've never lost a money bet here so you are wrong again. The bet I have with djohn is an easy $500 for me, that is why he tries to pretend it never happened and won't talk about it. I've lost 2 meaningless bets here for a grand total of $0.
As expected, the Publix School of Law does have a different definition of back channel communications.
Doesn't change anything I said.
Sorry.
Explain how Trump and Russia could collude before and during the election with no open line of communication.
You should be ashamed. Welshers are not looked at favorably on this board. Ask Kool-Aid Man :lol Your word means nothing. Shame.
Kool-Aid man actually paid up on a bet he and I made :bobo
Chris
03-08-2018, 06:40 PM
Kool-Aid man actually paid up on a bet he and I made :bobo
Kool-Aid Man :bobo
Pavlov
03-08-2018, 06:40 PM
Explain how Trump and Russia could collude before and during the election with no open line of communication.Now you're going to sit there and tell us no one in the campaign had any contacts with any Russians?
That ship sailed long ago, TSA.
:lol
You're an idiot. Remembering you welched does not fit the definition of "rent free", that is simply called remembering. It doesn't bother me one bit as I get to laugh at you and call you a welcher, which you are. I've never lost a money bet here so you are wrong again. The bet I have with djohn is an easy $500 for me, that is why he tries to pretend it never happened and won't talk about it. I've lost 2 meaningless bets here for a grand total of $0.
:lol You lost a money bet to Koolaid man I think it was. Might have been someone else.
I remember him posting a thread about it mocking you where he bought a bottle of alcohol or some shit like that in the club.
:lol 0 Money lost.
:lol You lost a money bet to Koolaid man I think it was. Might have been someone else.
I remember him posting a thread about it mocking you where he bought a bottle of alcohol or some shit like that in the club.
:lol 0 Money lost.
I won the bet with Koolaid Man dipshit :lol
I bought a bottle of bourbon and fried chicken with the winnings and took a picture.
Now you're going to sit there and tell us no one in the campaign had any contacts with any Russians?
That ship sailed long ago, TSA.
:lol
Contact with Russians does not equal collusion with Russians.
Do you believe the Trump campaign colluded and coordinated with Russia to sway the election yes or no?
Pavlov
03-08-2018, 07:19 PM
Contact with Russians does not equal collusion with Russians.
Do you believe the Trump campaign colluded and coordinated with Russia to sway the election yes or no?We can tell you're really invested in this message board when you furiously work to move the goalposts.
I clearly used the word "hypothetically" when I answered your stupid ass question you actually thought was a gotcha, TSA. You're just going to have to live with it.
We can tell you're really invested in this message board when you furiously work to move the goalposts.
I clearly used the word "hypothetically" when I answered your stupid ass question you actually thought was a gotcha, TSA. You're just going to have to live with it.
Wilt #1
Do you believe the Trump campaign colluded and coordinated with Russia to sway the election yes or no?
Chucho
03-08-2018, 07:23 PM
Here's your chance to give a take because I'm sure your pal djohn is too pussy to give his.
Djohn doesn't have a take beyond "muh side vs your side" and his "opinions" are tweet spamming. He's no more complex than that.
spurraider21
03-08-2018, 07:24 PM
I don't get mad about failed predictions on a sports message board.
thank god tbh, because otherwise you'd have a shitload of pent up rage at this point
CosmicCowboy
03-08-2018, 07:25 PM
Now you're going to sit there and tell us no one in the campaign had any contacts with any Russians?
That ship sailed long ago, TSA.
:lol
I will be rhe first to admit Trump Jr. Was a dumnass to meet with that russian bitch. From all accounts they got zero usable dirt from the meeting.
How is hiring Steele as a go between the DNC and Russian "sources" that much different?
Pavlov
03-08-2018, 07:31 PM
Wilt #1
Do you believe the Trump campaign colluded and coordinated with Russia to sway the election yes or no?Yeah, TSA -- I answered this a long, long time ago and my opinion hasn't changed. You've changed your mind on Susan Rice at least three times since then.
In fact I told you what I thought about collusion within the past month.
Clearly.
I don't flip-flop like you.
I was speaking hypothetically as I pointed out to you.
If you want to talk about wilting, you have a backlog of questions you need to answer, so get to it.
Pavlov
03-08-2018, 07:33 PM
I will be rhe first to admit Trump Jr. Was a dumnass to meet with that russian bitch. From all accounts they got zero usable dirt from the meeting.
How is hiring Steele as a go between the DNC and Russian "sources" that much different?Because Clinton and the campaign heads didn't even know Steele had been hired.
Yeah, TSA -- I answered this a long, long time ago and my opinion hasn't changed. You've changed your mind on Susan Rice at least three times since then.
In fact I told you what I thought about collusion within the past month.
Clearly.
I don't flip-flop like you.
I was speaking hypothetically as I pointed out to you.
If you want to talk about wilting, you have a backlog of questions you need to answer, so get to it.
If I remembered your answer I wouldn’t be asking.
Do you believe the Trump campaign colluded and coordinated with Russia to sway the election yes or no?
Because Clinton and the campaign heads didn't even know Steele had been hired.
:lmao
Chris
03-08-2018, 07:37 PM
:lmao
My reaction as well :lol
Pavlov
03-08-2018, 07:37 PM
If I remembered your answer I wouldn’t be asking.That's a shame.
If you want the answer, go back and answer ten questions of mine in this thread at which you wilted.
Or you can do a search.
I'll wait.
Pavlov
03-08-2018, 07:38 PM
:lmaoOK, when did Hillary Clinton personally know Steele was working for her campaign?
Give your timeline, TSA.
Pavlov
03-08-2018, 07:39 PM
My reaction as well :lolYou too, Chris -- when did Hillary Clinton personally know Steele was working for her campaign?
Step up.
That's a shame.
If you want the answer, go back and answer ten questions of mine in this thread at which you wilted.
Or you can do a search.
I'll wait.
searchraider21 need some help
Pavlov
03-08-2018, 07:40 PM
searchraider21 need some helpReally, you can't think of a keyword here?
:lol TSA
OK, when did Hillary Clinton personally know Steele was working for her campaign?
Give your timeline, TSA.
Because Clinton and the campaign heads didn't even know Steele had been hired.
:lmao
Chris
03-08-2018, 07:43 PM
You too, Chris -- when did Hillary Clinton personally know Steele was working for her campaign?
Step up.
On or before July 2016. That's an impossible question to ask as I'm not Hillary Clinton though.
CosmicCowboy
03-08-2018, 07:44 PM
Well, we know who ate the blue pill.
Pavlov
03-08-2018, 08:06 PM
:lmaoWilt #1.
When do you say Hillary personally knew Steele was working for the campaign?
On or before July 2016. That's an impossible question to ask as I'm not Hillary Clinton though.What is your evidence, Chris?
Well, we know who ate the blue pill.Hey, it's that snarky little girl who keeps saying Trump's a stud.
Now's your turn to step up, CC -- when do you say Hillary personally knew Steele was working for the campaign?
CosmicCowboy
03-08-2018, 08:33 PM
Wilt #1.
When do you say Hillary personally knew Steele was working for the campaign?
What is your evidence, Chris?
Hey, it's that snarky little girl who keeps saying Trump's a stud.
Now's your turn to step up, CC -- when do you say Hillary personally knew Steele was working for the campaign?
Sure chum. Neither Hillary or the DNC knew they were paying millions for dirt on Trump. Just pure as fucking snow. I cant give you an exact date but if you really are trying to sell that they knew nothing about it thats about as blue pill as it gets.
clambake
03-08-2018, 08:50 PM
all you guys have picked a side.
taking the blue pill, shoulder to shoulder.
FuzzyLumpkins
03-08-2018, 09:25 PM
Sure chum. Neither Hillary or the DNC knew they were paying millions for dirt on Trump. Just pure as fucking snow. I cant give you an exact date but if you really are trying to sell that they knew nothing about it thats about as blue pill as it gets.
That is not what he asked, fattie.
Chris
03-08-2018, 09:28 PM
Ex-British Spy Knew Who Funded Dossier; FBI Told Secret Court Something Different
The revelation could have profound implications for the FBI
Former British spy Christopher Steele was informed months after accepting the job to compile a dossier on then-candidate Donald J. Trump that the Hillary Clinton Campaign and the Democratic National Committee were paying the bills but that’s not what the FBI told the secret FISA court when it sought a warrant to spy on one of Trump’s campaign volunteers.
This bit of explosive information was revealed in an expose on Steele by The New Yorker’s Jane Mayer but the implications for the FBI are profound. Why? Because the bureau explicitly stated in its Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Application to the secret court that Steele was unaware of who backed Fusion GPS, the firm which hired him, for the research.
Steele, however, claimed in the expose titled Christopher Steele, The Man Behind the Trump Dossier that he did know who was paying his bill.
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“Under the arrangement, Orbis was a subcontractor working for Fusion GPS, a private research firm in Washington,” according to the article. “Fusion, in turn, had been contracted by a law firm, Perkins Coie, which represented both Hillary Clinton’s Presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee. Several months after Steele signed the deal, he learned that, through this chain, his research was being jointly subsidized by the Clinton campaign and the D.N.C. In all, Steele was paid a hundred and sixty-eight thousand dollars for his work.”
Did Steele lie to the FBI or did the FBI choose not to disclose this information to the secret court?
In a footnote on the warrant application to the court, the FBI stated that the “identified U.S. Person never advised Source #1 as to the motivation behind the research into Candidate #1’s ties to Russia.” Meaning that now embattled Fusion GPS, the firm that hired Steele to conduct the research, never advised him of who was paying his bill.
The FBI submitted the FISA application on Carter Page, a former volunteer for the Trump campaign, on Oct. 21, 2016. Steele, according to testimony provided by Fusion GPS owner and former Wall Street Journal Reporter Glen Simpson was hired in the Spring of 2016. The New Yorker article also states that Steele was hired in the Spring.
That means that Steele would have known who was paying him by the time he met with the FBI in Italy during the summer of 2016.
Which leads to another question, did Steele lie to the FBI or did the FBI choose not to disclose this information to the secret court?
The FBI did not immediately respond for comment but Page, whom the FBI was spying on, has denied all the accusations made against him the Steele dossier. He has defended himself against those allegations this year as he made rounds on numerous television and cable news shows over the past several weeks.
Page has also filed a number of lawsuits against media organizations, including Buzzfeed for publishing what former FBI Director James Comey said to President Trump in January 2017, when he briefed him was “salacious and unverified.”
Still, the FBI months earlier used the dossier, which they admittedly said was unverified, to get a warrant to spy on Page.
https://i1.wp.com/saraacarter.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/GettyImages-180858367igor-e1520535398147.jpg?resize=1024%2C496&ssl=1
Russia’s President Vladimir Putin meets the state-controlled Russian oil giant Rosneft CEO, Igor Sechin (R)
One major accusation in Steele’s dossier accused Page of colluding with Russian businessman Igor Sechin, the CEO of Russia’s state oil company. The dossier, which was based on information from former and current Russian spies, said Sechin offered Page a 19 percent stake in Russia’s oil company in exchange for the lifting of US sanctions on his country. Page told me in an earlier interview, as he has told numerous media outlets and Congress, that he never met with Sechin and says the offer to give him roughly $18 billion, a sum of which was 19 percent stake at the time, is laughable and highly improbable.
More problematic for the FBI and DOJ was the fact that both government agencies stonewalled for months turning over documents requested by Republican members of the House Intelligence Committee. Last year, Chairman Devin Nunes, R-CA, requested that the committee see the applications after FBI text messages discovered by the DOJ’s Inspector General Michael Horowitz surfaced.
Horowitz’s team of investigators discovered that FBI Special Agent Peter Strzok and his paramour FBI lawyer Lisa Page had sent more than 50,000 texts to each other, a number of which revealed the pair was deeply opposed to President Trump’s candidacy and others showing bias toward Hillary Clinton. Strzok, who was on the FBI’s Russia desk, was also a senior member of the FBI’s team investigating Clinton.
Nunes fought the FBI and DOJ for nearly a year, then had another public battle with the DOJ’s Deputy Director Rod Rosenstein in January over the four-page memo the committee was prepared to release to the public. The FBI and DOJ advised the White House not to approve the release of the memo, citing its release had national security implications. President Trump, however, decided to release it without redactions after a review by the FBI and White House revealed that there was no threat to national security.
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The committee’s findings revealed that the FBI did not disclose to the courts that the DNC and Clinton campaign funded the research used as the bulk of their evidence in obtaining the warrant. If proven true it would be a violation of federal law.
On March 2, Nunes demanded in a letter to Attorney General Jeff Sessions that the DOJ investigate what appears to be clear violations of FBI protocol and possible criminal violations under federal law when the bureau obtained the warrant. He asked the DOJ to provide answers to what the committee deemed was a “clear violation of FBI protocols” in the warrant application.
The potential criminal violations listed by Nunes in the letter are 18 USC 242 and 50 the SC 1809:
18 USC 242: using color of law to conduct a targeted investigation based on the pretext of law enforcement
50 USC 1809: surveillance conducted under color of law in a manner not authorized by FISA.
The evidence against the FBI’s handling of the Russia investigation is mounting and it is almost certain that the evidence being collected behind closed doors and the bits being uncovered in the media will all be taken into account by investigators.
And maybe that will fall to the investigators in a second special counsel if Republican law makers get their way. Nunes has not yet discussed his position publicly on whether Sessions should appoint a special counsel but those who know him told this reporter it’s only a matter of time. He’s sure to follow Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-SC, and House Oversight Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy, R-SC, both who have recently joined other lawmakers asking Session’s to appoint a special counsel to investigate the FBI and its handling of the dossier, as previously reported.
Session’s told Fox New’s Shannon Bream Wednesday night “I have great respect for Mr. Gowdy and Chairman Goodlatte, and we are going to consider seriously their recommendations.” Session’s revealed that he “appointed a person outside of Washington — many years at the Department of Justice — to look at all of the allegations that the House Judiciary Committee members sent to us and we are conducting that investigation.”
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https://saraacarter.com/ex-british-spy-knew-who-funded-dossier-fbi-told-secret-court-something-different/
CosmicCowboy
03-08-2018, 09:43 PM
That is not what he asked, fattie.
Suck another dick, chubbie.
boutons_deux
03-08-2018, 09:54 PM
The Daily Caller’s newest Russia columnist fails to disclose ties to Paul Manafort and the Kremlin
Oleg Deripaska's op-ed is the latest in a history of post-Soviet puff pieces from the Daily Caller.
https://thinkprogress.org/deripaska-at-daily-caller-9fb7c0bb52e0/
Why are you rightwingnutjobs and the entire rightwing hate media in love with Pootin and shit hole Russia?
Chucho
03-08-2018, 10:22 PM
Suck another dick, chubbie.
He probably talks the way he writes while he power-bottoms.
djohn2oo8
03-09-2018, 01:07 AM
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Ruh Roh. Another Trump cronie caught lying under oath.
Because Clinton and the campaign heads didn't even know Steele had been hired.
I’m going to ask for a link to back your claim and please post the senate testimony of Podesta sitting next to Elias giving his answer :lmao
FuzzyLumpkins
03-09-2018, 03:05 AM
Suck another dick, chubbie.
Homophobic and unoriginal. Still not what he asked, cowardly fattie.
Pavlov
03-09-2018, 03:52 AM
Sure chum. Neither Hillary or the DNC knew they were paying millions for dirt on Trump. Just pure as fucking snow. I cant give you an exact date but if you really are trying to sell that they knew nothing about it thats about as blue pill as it gets.You didn't answer the question.
As usual.
Pavlov
03-09-2018, 03:54 AM
I’m going to ask for a link to back your claim and please post the senate testimony of Podesta sitting next to Elias giving his answer :lmao:lol you didn't answer the question either.
CosmicCowboy
03-09-2018, 08:08 AM
You didn't answer the question.
As usual.
I didnt give you an exact date because no one outside Hillarys inner circle knows the exact date. You knew that when you asked your stupid question.
If you honestly think she never knew then you are as gullible and stupid as fuzzy blumpkin.
djohn2oo8
03-09-2018, 08:23 AM
Wonder if TSA knows Flynn ain't gonna withdraw his guilty plea :lol
boutons_deux
03-09-2018, 08:24 AM
Despite What NYT‘s ‘Legal Experts’ Say, Trump Could Face Witness Tampering Charges for Talking to Mueller’s Witnesses
Citing unidentified “legal experts,” the original report dismissed the idea that Trump’s conversations with McGahn and Priebus rose “to the level of witness tampering.”
This analysis takes the opposite perspective.
President Trump could already be subject to a raft of potential witness tampering charges as previously noted in a 721 (https://lawandcrime.com/legal-analysis/trump-could-face-charges-of-witness-tampering-for-alleged-campaign-against-fbi-agents-testifying-in-mueller-probe/#disqus_thread) for Law&Crime.
In that report, we analyzed how he could face these charges for reportedly pushing his aides to discredit officials with the Federal Bureau of Investigation (“FBI”).
These additional conversations only make such charges more likely.
Trump most probably increased his own legal jeopardy by approaching Mueller’s witnesses after they testified.
The law on point here is mostly contained at 18 USC § 1512(b) (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1512).
Section 1512(b) is essentially the heart of the federal witness tampering statute–it’s also the most famous section and one of the more difficult to satisfy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Andersen_LLP_v._United_States).
Section 1512(b) reads, in relevant part:
Whoever knowingly uses intimidation, threatens, or corruptly persuades another person, or attempts to do so, or engages in misleading conduct toward another person, with intent to—
(1) influence, delay, or prevent the testimony of any person in an official proceeding;
(2) cause or induce any person to—
(A) withhold testimony, or withhold a record, document, or other object, from an official proceeding…
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.
Witness tampering charges based on the McGahn conversation might seem like a stretch but federal prosecutors are generally given wide latitude–and this latitude only increases in high-profile cases.
The federal witness tampering statute helpfully contains a catch-all section. Located at 18 USC § 1512(c) (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1512), this section reads, in full:
Whoever corruptly—
(1) alters, destroys, mutilates, or conceals a record, document, or other object, or attempts to do so, with the intent to impair the object’s integrity or availability for use in an official proceeding; or
(2) otherwise obstructs, influences, or impedes any official proceeding, or attempts to do so,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.
Here, Mueller isn’t quite as hamstrung by knowledge requirements.
All he would need to show is that Trump’s conversations with McGahn and Priebus were undertaken “corruptly” and had some sort of obstructive impact or influence–or that there was an attempt to have such an impact or influence.
https://lawandcrime.com/legal-analysis/despite-what-nyts-legal-experts-say-trump-could-face-witness-tampering-charges-for-talking-to-muellers-witnesses/
boutons_deux
03-09-2018, 08:43 AM
How Russian Trolls Crept Into the Trump Campaign’s Facebook Messages
When the message from Matt Skiber arrived in the mailbox of the Facebook account for Donald J. Trump’s Florida campaign in early August 2016, it raised no flags, despite its slightly awkward attempts at colloquial American English.\\
But Mr. Skiber was not an American supporter of Mr. Trump. Instead, he was a persona created by the Internet Research Agency (https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/magazine/the-agency.html), the Russian company indicted last month (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/16/us/politics/russians-indicted-mueller-election-interference.html).
A review of the private Facebook messages, as well as interviews with the Trump campaign operatives who were targeted by Russians, reveal that Mr. Trump’s team was susceptible to Moscow’s interference campaign.
It preyed on unsuspecting staff members who were more interested in capturing the enthusiasm of supporters of their unorthodox nominee and did not envision the seemingly far-fetched possibility that Russians might enlist them as unwitting players in a scheme to undermine American democracy.
“Nobody reasonably would have asked — or even thought to ask — ‘Are you sure you’re not with Russia?’”
“It’s just not something that normally you would think you have to watch out for.”
(https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/08/us/politics/russian-trolls-trump-campaign-florida-matt-skiber.html?partner=rss&emc=rss#story-continues-2)In a plot carried out by 80 employees, the Internet Research Agency, which has come to be known as the “troll factory (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/18/world/europe/russia-troll-factory.html),”
stole identities from Americans and
created social media campaigns and
fake online personas like Matt Skiber to try
to manipulate voters, activists and Trump campaign staff members, court papers show.
The Russians focused on Florida, the nation’s most critical swing state, contacting activists and Mr. Trump’s campaign primarily for help in staging rallies across the state on Aug. 20,
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/08/us/politics/russian-trolls-trump-campaign-florida-matt-skiber.html?partner=rss&emc=rss
:lol you didn't answer the question either.
I didn’t make the claim that Clinton and the campaign heads didn't even know Steele had been hired. :lmao
Please back your claim and use the Podesta testimony as proof :lmao
boutons_deux
03-09-2018, 10:50 AM
Pootin tells Megyn that maybe Russian cyberarmy was working for Americans,
Pavlov
03-09-2018, 12:06 PM
I didnt give you an exact date because no one outside Hillarys inner circle knows the exact date. You knew that when you asked your stupid question.
If you honestly think she never knew then you are as gullible and stupid as fuzzy blumpkin.Why would she know exactly who it was, CC?
Explain your conspiracy.
Pavlov
03-09-2018, 12:09 PM
I didn’t make the claim that Clinton and the campaign heads didn't even know Steele had been hired. :lmao
Please back your claim and use the Podesta testimony as proof :lmaoYou didn't answer the question.
When do you say Hillary personally knew Steele was working for the campaign?
You didn't answer the question.
When do you say Hillary personally knew Steele was working for the campaign?
I didn't make the claim. I laughed at your claim.
Because Clinton and the campaign heads didn't even know Steele had been hired.
Stop stalling and back it up.
Pavlov
03-09-2018, 12:18 PM
I didn't make the claim. I laughed at your claim.Yet you have nothing to refute it.
Good talk.
Yet you have nothing to refute it.
Good talk.
You've given nothing to refute. Back your claim up.
Pavlov
03-09-2018, 12:21 PM
You've given nothing to refute.Oh, so you accept my claim?
:lol
Spurminator
03-09-2018, 12:21 PM
You've given nothing to refute. Back your claim up.
Back up that someone didn't know something? Are you familiar with the concept that you can't prove a negative? The only evidence for a negative is the lack of evidence for the affirmative. You lack that evidence.
RandomGuy
03-09-2018, 12:22 PM
Contact with Russians does not equal collusion with Russians.
Do you believe the Trump campaign colluded and coordinated with Russia to sway the election yes or no?
"Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 (Clinton) emails that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press."
:rollin
RandomGuy
03-09-2018, 12:23 PM
Trump partied with Russian oligarchs at Vegas nightclub shut down over ‘lewd’ acts involving women and urine: report
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/03/trump-partied-russian-oligarchs-vegas-nightclub-shut-lewd-acts-involving-women-urine-report/
Pavlov
03-09-2018, 12:23 PM
Back up that someone didn't know something? Are you familiar with the concept that you can't prove a negative? The only evidence for a negative is the lack of evidence for the affirmative. You lack that evidence.They always end up doing this.
Their claim is Hillary knew everything the entire time as some kind of omnipotent supervillain.
They've done nothing to prove it.
Back up that someone didn't know something? Are you familiar with the concept that you can't prove a negative? The only evidence for a negative is the lack of evidence for the affirmative. You lack that evidence.
Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, John Podesta, recently denied to Senate Intelligence Committee investigators that he knew who had funded the infamous Steele dossier on Donald Trump.
But when he issued that denial, Podesta happened to be sitting next to the man who did pay for the salacious document: Marc Elias, the general counsel for the Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee.
Elias was in the Senate meeting in his capacity as Podesta’s personal attorney, CNN reported on Thursday. But the lawyer, a partner at the firm Perkins Coie, apparently did not reveal during the interview that he was involved in the dossier, which was commissioned by opposition research firm Fusion GPS and written by former British spy Christopher Steele.
The Senate interview with Podesta was conducted before it was revealed that the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee jointly funded the dossier. The Washington Post reported that Elias, a longtime Democratic party “fixer,” paid Fusion GPS through Perkins Coie.
http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/26/john-podesta-whose-lawyer-paid-for-dossier-told-senate-he-didnt-know-who-funded-it/
Hillary Clinton's former campaign manager Robby Mook said on Friday evening that he did not know who funded the controversial, unverified dossier about President Trump, despite revelations that the law firm representing the campaign sponsored the document.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/358741-former-clinton-campaign-manager-says-he-was-unaware-of-dossier
A spokesman for Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.), who was forced out as DNC chairwoman at the party’s national convention in 2016, also denied knowing about the arrangement.
“She was not aware of anything related to this research arrangement,” spokesman David Damron said.
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/357240-dnc-wasserman-schultz-say-they-were-unaware-of-dossier-payments
Anyone who believes these three is a dumb as shit.
Pavlov
03-09-2018, 01:02 PM
Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, John Podesta, recently denied to Senate Intelligence Committee investigators that he knew who had funded the infamous Steele dossier on Donald Trump.
But when he issued that denial, Podesta happened to be sitting next to the man who did pay for the salacious document: Marc Elias, the general counsel for the Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee.
Elias was in the Senate meeting in his capacity as Podesta’s personal attorney, CNN reported on Thursday. But the lawyer, a partner at the firm Perkins Coie, apparently did not reveal during the interview that he was involved in the dossier, which was commissioned by opposition research firm Fusion GPS and written by former British spy Christopher Steele.
The Senate interview with Podesta was conducted before it was revealed that the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee jointly funded the dossier. The Washington Post reported that Elias, a longtime Democratic party “fixer,” paid Fusion GPS through Perkins Coie.
http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/26/john-podesta-whose-lawyer-paid-for-dossier-told-senate-he-didnt-know-who-funded-it/
Hillary Clinton's former campaign manager Robby Mook said on Friday evening that he did not know who funded the controversial, unverified dossier about President Trump, despite revelations that the law firm representing the campaign sponsored the document.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/358741-former-clinton-campaign-manager-says-he-was-unaware-of-dossier
A spokesman for Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.), who was forced out as DNC chairwoman at the party’s national convention in 2016, also denied knowing about the arrangement.
“She was not aware of anything related to this research arrangement,” spokesman David Damron said.
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/357240-dnc-wasserman-schultz-say-they-were-unaware-of-dossier-payments
Anyone who believes these three is a dumb as shit.Oh, so your proof they all knew is their pointedly saying they didn't know.
Including testimony before the senate.
:lmao
Tell us when you say each of these people knew Fusion GPS employed Steele.
djohn2oo8
03-09-2018, 01:06 PM
Oh, so you're proof they all knew is their pointedly saying they didn't know.
Including testimony before the senate.
:lmao
Tell us when you say each of these people knew Fusion GPS employed Steele.
Lordy he just tripped all over himself!
Oh, so you're proof they all knew is their pointedly saying they didn't know.
Including testimony before the senate.
:lmao
Tell us when you say each of these people knew Fusion GPS employed Steele.
^^^
dumb as shit
RandomGuy
03-09-2018, 01:11 PM
I will be rhe first to admit Trump Jr. Was a dumnass to meet with that russian bitch. From all accounts they got zero usable dirt from the meeting.
How is hiring Steele as a go between the DNC and Russian "sources" that much different?
This is a question, you should seriously try answering for yourself. How is it different?
Pavlov
03-09-2018, 01:12 PM
^^^
dumb as shitOK, since you're smart as shit, answer the questions.
When did each of those people you quoted know Steele was working for the campaign?
And when did Hillary personally know?
Explain your conspiracy.
Pavlov
03-09-2018, 01:13 PM
This is a question, you should seriously try answering for yourself. How is it different?It's obvious Christopher Steele's main concern was adoptions.
If you don't believe that you dumb as shit.
RandomGuy
03-09-2018, 01:14 PM
Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, John Podesta, recently denied to Senate Intelligence Committee investigators that he knew who had funded the infamous Steele dossier on Donald Trump.
But when he issued that denial, Podesta happened to be sitting next to the man who did pay for the salacious document: Marc Elias, the general counsel for the Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee.
Elias was in the Senate meeting in his capacity as Podesta’s personal attorney, CNN reported on Thursday. But the lawyer, a partner at the firm Perkins Coie, apparently did not reveal during the interview that he was involved in the dossier, which was commissioned by opposition research firm Fusion GPS and written by former British spy Christopher Steele.
The Senate interview with Podesta was conducted before it was revealed that the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee jointly funded the dossier. The Washington Post reported that Elias, a longtime Democratic party “fixer,” paid Fusion GPS through Perkins Coie.
http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/26/john-podesta-whose-lawyer-paid-for-dossier-told-senate-he-didnt-know-who-funded-it/
Hillary Clinton's former campaign manager Robby Mook said on Friday evening that he did not know who funded the controversial, unverified dossier about President Trump, despite revelations that the law firm representing the campaign sponsored the document.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/358741-former-clinton-campaign-manager-says-he-was-unaware-of-dossier
A spokesman for Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.), who was forced out as DNC chairwoman at the party’s national convention in 2016, also denied knowing about the arrangement.
“She was not aware of anything related to this research arrangement,” spokesman David Damron said.
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/357240-dnc-wasserman-schultz-say-they-were-unaware-of-dossier-payments
Anyone who believes these three is a dumb as shit.
:rollin
Smart person: Prove that they knew.
Dumb person: They all said they didn't know. They are liars and only dumb people would believe them.
Smart person: :rolleyes
Thanks Cosmored.
RandomGuy
03-09-2018, 01:18 PM
It's obvious Christopher Steele's main concern was adoptions.
If you don't believe that you dumb as shit.
The only thing I am really 100% certain at this point is that if there was some sort of active collusion, these people are too stupid to be able to hide it, and Mueller WILL find it if so.
I think, ultimately, that Trumps obsequiousness has some underlying reason, and that the Russians have been dictating a few appointments, i.e. Tillerson, behind the scenes.
RandomGuy
03-09-2018, 01:22 PM
Nunberg caps off strange week with appearance before Mueller grand jury
Washington (CNN)Former Trump campaign aide Sam Nunberg arrived at District Court in Washington, DC, Friday morning, where he is expected to deliver federal grand jury testimony as part of special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation.
Nunberg is the first recognizable Trump campaign affiliate to appear at a grand jury hearing related to Mueller's investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election by walking through the main entrance of the federal courthouse and heading to the grand jury area. Other witnesses have presumably testified before Mueller's grand jury since it started meeting last July, but none have made as public an appearance.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/09/politics/sam-nunberg-district-court/index.html
I hope Mueller is there giving him the stink eye the whole time. .... man would I give a testicle to watch Nunberg fold like a deckchair...
Pavlov
03-09-2018, 01:22 PM
The only thing I am really 100% certain at this point is that if there was some sort of active collusion, these people are too stupid to be able to hide it, and Mueller WILL find it if so.
I think, ultimately, that Trumps obsequiousness has some underlying reason, and that the Russians have been dictating a few appointments, i.e. Tillerson, behind the scenes.NO TRUMP SAID NOT KNOW RUSSIANS ANYONE THINK DIFFERENT DUMB AS SHIT
Pavlov
03-09-2018, 01:26 PM
Seriously, Steele already spoke with Mueller investigators and I figure he told them everything he knows. Mueller is free to charge Steele if he thinks Steele did anything illegal.
lol "criminal referral"
RandomGuy
03-09-2018, 01:27 PM
NO TRUMP SAID NOT KNOW RUSSIANS ANYONE THINK DIFFERENT DUMB AS SHIT
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/superman/images/4/44/Bizarro.jpg
RandomGuy
03-09-2018, 01:30 PM
Seriously, Steele already spoke with Mueller investigators and I figure he told them everything he knows. Mueller is free to charge Steele if he thinks Steele did anything illegal.
lol "criminal referral"
I find it... bizarre... how badly the right wants Steele to be some sort of villain here. Steele has paid an incredible price, as have some of his likely sources[Russian KGB general murdered, spy and daughter poisoned], for coming forward.
IF that dossier was made up out of whole cloth.. Russian intelligence certainly seems to be awfully determined to kill people it knows weren't involved... just sayin
spurraider21
03-09-2018, 01:33 PM
Seriously, Steele already spoke with Mueller investigators and I figure he told them everything he knows. Mueller is free to charge Steele if he thinks Steele did anything illegal.
lol "criminal referral"
thats because mueller is part of the rigged system... which contradicts the claim that mueller is working with trump in a deep conspiracy involving flynn's intentional felony for which he's going to reverse his plea any day now
does that clear things up?
Pavlov
03-09-2018, 01:35 PM
I find it... bizarre... how badly the right wants Steele to be some sort of villain here. Steele has paid an incredible price, as have some of his likely sources[Russian KGB general murdered, spy and daughter poisoned], for coming forward.
IF that dossier was made up out of whole cloth.. Russian intelligence certainly seems to be awfully determined to kill people it knows weren't involved... just sayin:lol and the TSA/CC/Chris dumbasshit conspiracy seems to be that everyone in the Clinton campaign knew about Steele and directed him to make up a bunch of shit he couldn't prove and release the devastating dossier for maximum Hillary advantage!
two months after the election.
clambake
03-09-2018, 01:35 PM
Nunberg caps off strange week with appearance before Mueller grand jury
Washington (CNN)Former Trump campaign aide Sam Nunberg arrived at District Court in Washington, DC, Friday morning, where he is expected to deliver federal grand jury testimony as part of special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation.
Nunberg is the first recognizable Trump campaign affiliate to appear at a grand jury hearing related to Mueller's investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election by walking through the main entrance of the federal courthouse and heading to the grand jury area. Other witnesses have presumably testified before Mueller's grand jury since it started meeting last July, but none have made as public an appearance.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/09/politics/sam-nunberg-district-court/index.html
I hope Mueller is there giving him the stink eye the whole time. .... man would I give a testicle to watch Nunberg fold like a deckchair...
nunberg is a riot. he called sarah huckabee sanders a fat slob, lol.
OK, since you're smart as shit, answer the questions.
When did each of those people you quoted know Steele was working for the campaign?
And when did Hillary personally know?
Explain your conspiracy.
Only a person dumb as shit would expect answers that only Mook, Podesta, Clinton, and Wasserman Schutlz know the answer to.
Pavlov
03-09-2018, 01:40 PM
thats because mueller is part of the rigged system... which contradicts the claim that mueller is working with trump in a deep conspiracy involving flynn's intentional felony for which he's going to reverse his plea any day now
does that clear things up?Look, there's a picture of Flynn with Susan Rice and they're both smiling. Flynn is a master spook so he knows how to use his felony confession to bring down Hillary Clinton, whom I've never seen in a picture smiling with Susan Rice.
RandomGuy
03-09-2018, 01:42 PM
:lol and the TSA/CC/Chris dumbasshit conspiracy seems to be that everyone in the Clinton campaign knew about Steele and directed him to make up a bunch of shit he couldn't prove and release the devastating dossier for maximum Hillary advantage!
two months after the election.
It reeks of misdirection.
Pavlov
03-09-2018, 01:42 PM
Only a person dumb as shit would expect answers that only Mook, Podesta, Clinton, and Wasserman Schutlz know the answer to.But you KNOW they knew.
Because all three said they didn't. :lmao
OK, don't give a date -- explain your dossier conspiracy theory based on the claim that all of them knew.
It's pretty simple. They are all proven liars. They all denied they rigged the primaries. Anyone who thinks the nominee, the campaign manager, the campaign chairman, and the DNC chairwoman didn't know that their lawfirm paid millions of dollars for dossier on behalf of the campaign and DNC is dumb as shit.
djohn2oo8
03-09-2018, 01:54 PM
CROFL moving from they all knew to well they probably knew because they rigged the election :lmao
RandomGuy
03-09-2018, 01:57 PM
It's pretty simple. They are all proven liars. They all denied they rigged the primaries. Anyone who thinks the nominee, the campaign manager, the campaign chairman, and the DNC chairwoman didn't know that their lawfirm paid millions of dollars for dossier on behalf of the campaign and DNC is dumb as shit.
Here's the walk back and how it becomes sooooo less shocking.
So a political party paid for oppo research? :rollin
How shocking. What's next, these people paid for TV ads? DUN DUN DUN!!! LOCK THEM UP...
:rolleyes.
djohn2oo8
03-09-2018, 02:03 PM
TSA is one defeated bot.
Pavlov
03-09-2018, 02:03 PM
It's pretty simple. They are all proven liars. They all denied they rigged the primaries. Anyone who thinks the nominee, the campaign manager, the campaign chairman, and the DNC chairwoman didn't know that their lawfirm paid millions of dollars for dossier on behalf of the campaign and DNC is dumb as shit.Great, so they all knew about the dossier and didn't release it before the election because?
djohn2oo8
03-09-2018, 02:04 PM
Great, so they all knew about the dossier and didn't release it before the election because?
:lmao
RandomGuy
03-09-2018, 02:07 PM
Great, so they all knew about the dossier and didn't release it before the election because?
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/TimelyMarvelousBernesemountaindog-max-1mb.gif
Pavlov
03-09-2018, 02:08 PM
Remember, these are people TSA accused of kidnapping, raping and eating children -- but somehow they demurred from saying David Dennison had some whores pee on a bed.
spurraider21
03-09-2018, 02:09 PM
Remember, these are people TSA accused of kidnapping, raping and eating children -- but somehow they demurred from saying David Dennison had some whores pee on a bed.
also murder
djohn2oo8
03-09-2018, 02:09 PM
https://78.media.tumblr.com/b142051c2ae01bffeeb6fe577752236d/tumblr_oxkfqoEY4x1toamj8o1_400.gif
Every single TSA theory
Pavlov
03-09-2018, 02:11 PM
also murderRight, they murdered Seth Rich for no actual reason but clutched their pearls when it came to the dossier.
Chris
03-09-2018, 02:13 PM
It's pretty simple. They are all proven liars. They all denied they rigged the primaries. Anyone who thinks the nominee, the campaign manager, the campaign chairman, and the DNC chairwoman didn't know that their lawfirm paid millions of dollars for dossier on behalf of the campaign and DNC is dumb as shit.
Pavlov thinks Hillary didn't know though.
Great, so they all knew about the dossier and didn't release it before the election because?
Goalpost move. You claimed they didn’t know about the dossier. We aren’t talking about the release of it.
Do you think Perkins Coie decided to fund the dossier without notifying the campaign or the DNC? Who authorized the payments?
djohn2oo8
03-09-2018, 02:19 PM
Goalpost move. You claimed they didn’t know about the dossier. We aren’t talking about the release of it.
Do you think Perkins Coie decided to fund the dossier without notifying the campaign or the DNC? Who authorized the payments?
If they knew about it, why release it after the election instead of before?
Pavlov
03-09-2018, 02:21 PM
Goalpost move. You claimed they didn’t know about the dossier.And you did nothing to prove they did.
We aren’t talking about the release of it.And you never will.
Do you think Perkins Coie decided to fund the dossier without notifying the campaign or the DNC? Who authorized the payments?Perkins-Coie were budgeted money to do oppo research. It's entirely possible and indeed likely they wouldn't report back exactly what they were doing and whom they were hiring. They're all lawyers -- do you see a legal advantage to the higher ups not knowing the particulars of the opposition researched they contracted out?
Yes or no.
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