Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions [Archive] - Page 170

Chris

01-11-2019, 05:13 PM

https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1083817428923093000
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1083818238029500416
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1083818578170863616
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Pavlov

01-11-2019, 05:15 PM

:lol Stealth Jeff

TSA

01-11-2019, 05:27 PM

TSA concedes collusion, moves goalpost.

Speaking of moving goalposts...remember when the Trump campaign coordinated with Russia to release Hillary's emails through Wikileaks?

TSA

01-11-2019, 05:29 PM

TSA concedes collusion, moves goalpost.

I concede nothing. You've been running with nothing more than an allegation that no one involved was indicted for.

TSA

01-11-2019, 05:31 PM

but now

:cry

still tired

Pavlov

01-11-2019, 05:31 PM

Speaking of moving goalposts...remember when the Trump campaign coordinated with Russia to release Hillary's emails through Wikileaks?Still waiting for that one. Corsi and Stone are flipping out for some reason.

You can kick the can down the road but others can't. We get it.

Pavlov

01-11-2019, 05:32 PM

I concede nothing. You've been running with nothing more than an allegation that no one involved was indicted for.:lol that's some next level pot/kettle action you got going there.

TSA

01-11-2019, 05:32 PM

1083813916709437440

1083813918596845568

Pavlov

01-11-2019, 05:33 PM

still tiredDo you believe the Washington Post is a CIA mouthpiece?

Yes or no.

TSA

01-11-2019, 05:35 PM

Do you believe the Washington Post is a CIA mouthpiece?

Yes or no.

Certain articles yes, others no.

Pavlov

01-11-2019, 05:36 PM

Certain articles yes, others no.:lmao Way to take a stand there.

It's astounding how much you flip-flop on yourself.

The company itself is either a mouthpiece or it isn't.

Pick a lane.

TSA

01-11-2019, 05:45 PM

:lmao Way to take a stand there.

It's astounding how much you flip-flop on yourself.

The company itself is either a mouthpiece or it isn't.

Pick a lane.

Do you believe the CIA has influence over certain articles that appear in the WaPo? Yes or no.

TSA

01-11-2019, 05:46 PM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/food/what-your-wine-choices-say-about-the-way-you-think/2019/01/10/cae048b4-1511-11e9-90a8-136fa44b80ba_story.html?utm_term=.94cf342874b7

found one

:bobo

TSA

01-11-2019, 05:47 PM

And we are now at the point where Pavlov will try to talk about the WaPo for the next 5 pages instead of the revelations from the Page testimony transcript. Have fun.

Pavlov

01-11-2019, 05:51 PM

Do you believe the CIA has influence over certain articles that appear in the WaPo? Yes or no.No.

I picked a lane.

Will you?

Is the Washington Post a CIA mouthpiece?

Yes or no.

Pavlov

01-11-2019, 05:51 PM

And we are now at the point where Pavlov will try to talk about the WaPo for the next 5 pages instead of the revelations from the Page testimony transcript. Have fun.Where can I read the testimony?

clambake

01-11-2019, 05:54 PM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/food/what-your-wine-choices-say-about-the-way-you-think/2019/01/10/cae048b4-1511-11e9-90a8-136fa44b80ba_story.html?utm_term=.94cf342874b7

found one

:bobo
interesting wine article.

Chris

01-11-2019, 06:26 PM

https://twitter.com/jsolomonReports/status/1083802584706678784

Pavlov

01-11-2019, 06:27 PM

https://twitter.com/jsolomonReports/status/1083802584706678784:lmao Solomon

Chris

01-11-2019, 06:30 PM

Nice little tidbit from the Solomon piece:

"And there’s more paradigm-changing facts excluded from the Times story. Veselnitskaya managed to get into the U.S. because the Obama administration originally gave her a special parole visa.

Hmmm. The lawyer who sets up the Trump Tower meeting gets her original entry to the United States based on a special act by the Obama Justice Department. Seems relevant but, once again, absent from the story."

Chris

01-11-2019, 06:33 PM

Another tidbit:

"There was a presidential candidate in 2016:

Whose husband traveled to Moscow and collected a $500,000 speaking fee from Vladimir Putin cronies while she was serving as secretary of State, negotiating with the Russians;

Who ran a Cabinet agency that authorized the sale of a large swath of strategic American uranium assets to Putin’s nuclear company at the very moment the FBI had proven the company was engaged in extortion, bribery, kickbacks and racketeering;

Who served in an administration that helped arrange and approve billions of dollars in nuclear fuel contracts for Moscow at American nuclear plants, just a short while before Putin’s forces invaded our ally, Ukraine;

Whose campaign chairman served on the board of a clean-energy company that received a $35 million investment from Russia while she served as secretary of State;

Whose prominent fundraiser subsequently came under investigation for possible illegal lobbying activities involving Manafort and Russia-backed Ukraine politicians; and

Whose family’s charitable empire accepted support from a lobbying and public relations firm working for a Russian nuclear giant needing State Department approval for a U.S. transaction.

Her name was Hillary Clinton."

Pavlov

01-11-2019, 06:35 PM

We've heard all of this innuendo before, Chris.

Solomon is misleading you.

ElNono

01-11-2019, 07:25 PM

Chris

01-11-2019, 07:35 PM

https://twitter.com/Thomas1774Paine/status/1083883787103154176

:lol

Pavlov

01-11-2019, 07:37 PM

https://twitter.com/Thomas1774Paine/status/1083883787103154176

:lolMaybe they want to ask why he's such good friends with Mueller.

DarrinS

01-11-2019, 07:54 PM

God damn. You’d think wine would be here to shut this nonsense down. Wonder where he is?

Banging your mom?

Winehole23

01-11-2019, 09:05 PM

Solomon is a biased hack. Tell me when he stops blowing Trump.

boutons_deux

01-12-2019, 02:52 PM

The U.S. Government Has Amassed Terabytes of Internal WikiLeaks Data (https://gizmodo.com/the-u-s-government-has-amassed-terabytes-of-internal-w-1831640212)

There are several hints as to the contents of these drives.

According to the affidavit from Assange, the information on the hard drives included, in addition to the

possible staff emails,

“chat communications ...

copies of passports [and]

video footage taken in secret.”

Following an Associated Press article (https://www.apnews.com/af39586daf254cddb3d955453c45865d) based off of a

cache of “WikiLeaks emails,

chat logs,

financial records,

secretly recorded footage and

other documents” from within the organization,

WikiLeaks alleged that the cache was the same that had been provided to the FBI.

https://gizmodo.com/the-u-s-government-has-amassed-terabytes-of-internal-w-1831640212?utm_source=gizmodo_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2019-01-12

Mueller has all of it. :lol

Patty Mills

01-12-2019, 03:31 PM

boutons_deux

01-12-2019, 07:18 PM

Trump swore interpreter to secrecy after Putin meeting and took away notes

https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Trump-Putin-1.jpg

Trash went to “extraordinary lengths” to hide his meetings with Russian dictator Vladimir Putin from his own White House aides, reports the Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-has-concealed-details-of-his-face-to-face-encounters-with-putin-from-senior-officials-in-administration/2019/01/12/65f6686c-1434-11e9-b6ad-9cfd62dbb0a8_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.2ee0bb1fcaca).

Trump

took away his interpreter’s notes from the meeting “instructing the linguist not to discuss what had transpired with other administration officials.”

“The constraints that Trump imposed are part of a broader pattern by the president of

shielding his communications with Putin from public scrutiny and

preventing even high-ranking officials in his own administration from fully knowing what he has told one of the United States’ main adversaries,”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/trump-swore-interpreter-secrecy-putin-meeting-took-away-notes-report/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-has-concealed-details-of-his-face-to-face-encounters-with-putin-from-senior-officials-in-administration/2019/01/12/65f6686c-1434-11e9-b6ad-9cfd62dbb0a8_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.4c57b29420cd

Winehole23

01-12-2019, 09:56 PM

It isn't a crime to walk into a bank wearing a ski mask and gloves.

boutons_deux

01-12-2019, 10:02 PM

I wonder if Mueller has interviewed Trash's interpreter?

DarrinS

01-12-2019, 11:22 PM

I wonder if Mueller has interviewed Trash's interpreter?

Oh my gorsh, I hope Mueller is on the case.

Winehole23

01-13-2019, 06:12 AM

Mueller talking to the translator sworn to secrecy might not look good.

If somehow any of the Five Eyes were in the room, Mueller would know it too.

boutons_deux

01-13-2019, 08:51 AM

Mueller talking to the translator sworn to secrecy might not look good.

If somehow any of the Five Eyes were in the room, Mueller would know it too.

Fuck Trash's bullshit omerta, NDAs, etc, trying to hide his unethical, probably criminal, even treasonous behavior.

Mueller interviewing Trash's translator when fraud, liar, very probably criminal Trash is under investigation, which many think includes treason, is not a "not look good".

Trill Clinton

01-13-2019, 11:45 AM

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1084308184263770112?s=19

boutons_deux

01-13-2019, 12:20 PM

gaslighting was the cinematic term, but far from the only commentary

"the German philosopher and political theorist Hannah Arendt, an émigré from Nazi Germany.

“The result of a consistent and total substitution of lies for factual truth,”

Arendt wrote in her classic volume The Origins of Totalitarianism,

“is not that the lie will now be accepted as truth and truth be defamed as a lie,

but that

the sense by which we take our bearings in the real world—

and the category of truth versus falsehood is among the mental means to this end—

is being destroyed.”

https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/01/11/bordering-on-fascism-scholars-reflect-on-dangerous-times/print/

I would be VERY surprised if Trash was not drugged, sedated, one way or the other, all day, every day, every night.

boutons_deux

01-13-2019, 04:02 PM

A Justice Department Veteran Explains Why Trump Can’t Suppress the Mueller Report

Even with a new Trump-friendly attorney general, the final Russia findings will likely become public. Here’s why

Neal Katyal, a former acting solicitor general during Barack Obama’s presidency, published a series of tweets (https://twitter.com/neal_katyal/status/1083203987468357635?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet) that made the strongest case yet for why the Mueller report will eventually become public.

to ensure “Congressional and public confidence in the integrity of the process.” In other words, a check on the attorney general if he or she tries to suppress or dismiss the conclusions and recommendations of the special counsel.

the ability of an attorney general to override the special counsel is quite narrow — and that’s by design. The A.G. can only intervene if what the special counsel is recommending would violate “established Departmental practices,” grossly exceeding the past practices at the DOJ.

“There is no DOJ established practice that says if a Presidential candidate cheats enough and wins the Presidency, that he gets a get-out-of-jail-free card,”

Mueller can signal to the A.G. that he wants to take legally sensitive acts as a result of his probe, and force the A.G. to override him, triggering the report to Congress.

“It is a safeguard to prevent a cover-up, it creates a mandatory report to a separate and coequal branch of govt,” Katyal tweeted.

“So that is why I believe Mueller has a move left to play if Whitaker or Barr (if confirmed) try to stymie him and his full report.”

White House’s plan to claim executive privilege and prevent Mueller’s most sensitive findings from being released?

Katyal doesn’t buy it.

He’s argued, in tweets and an op-ed, that Trump has an “even weaker” case than Richard Nixon did in the 1970s.

Even under the Trump administration’s view that a sitting president can’t be indicted — a view that is hotly debated —

that would mean Mueller would have to turn over all of his investigative materials (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/21/opinion/neal-katyal-indict-trump.html) to Congress as part of a possible impeachment process,

coming from Katyal, the argument in favor of Mueller’s work seeing daylight is convincing.

“Bottom line: the President can try to hide the Mueller Report,” Katyal tweeted (https://twitter.com/neal_katyal/status/1083206634359480321). “He will lose to the public’s right to know.”

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/mueller-report-public-777215/

And that's just Mueller, who has certainly give lots of info to SDNY.

And Weissberg flips, Trash's money-man?

boutons_deux

01-14-2019, 07:59 AM

GOP Shrugs Off Report That Trump Concealed Details Of Putin Meetings

“This is not a traditional president. He has unorthodox means,” Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) said in defense of Trump.

President Donald Trump (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/topic/donald-trump) has “gone to extraordinary lengths” to conceal his conversations with Russian President Vladimir Putin (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-putin-meeting-washington-post_us_5c3a9553e4b0e0baf53df428) over the last two years.

Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), appearing on CBS’ “Face the Nation,” similarly dismissed the Post report, arguing that Trump’s administration has been tough on Russia and that concerns about the president’s affinity for Putin (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/topic/vladimir-putin) are unfounded.

Asked whether he’d like Congress to investigate the matter, including potentially calling the president’s translator to testify, McCarthy said, “I’d like the president to be able to build these relationships.”

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-putin-russia-meetings_us_5c3b80dee4b0e0baf53e6c6f?utm_medium=em ail&utm_campaign=__TheMorningEmail__011419&utm_content=__TheMorningEmail__011419+CID_fee78a7f 9fa64ca5cf105570f35ad83f&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=HuffPost&ncid=newsltushpmgnews__TheMorningEmail__011419

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btw, Russia, Trash's BFF ally, is cyber-warring on USA's electrical grid and associated networks.

America’s Electric Grid Has a Vulnerable Back Door—and Russia Walked Through It (https://newspicks.us/news/1360952/body/)

https://share.qz.com/news/1360952/

boutons_deux

01-14-2019, 08:20 AM

Mueller Will Say Trump ‘Helped Putin Destabilize the U.S.’

Carl Bernstein has reported (https://www.newsweek.com/mueller-report-trump-helped-putin-destabilize-us-watergate-journalist-1289541) that he has received confidential information concerning the draft report soon to be issued by special counsel Robert Mueller. (https://www.politicususa.com/2019/01/11/why-bob-mueller-is-about-destroy-the-entire-trump-family.html)

According to Bernstein, Mueller’s report will provide convincing evidence (https://www.politicususa.com/2019/01/13/proof-of-collusion-trump-campaign-had-100-contacts-with-russians.html) that President Donald Trump in many ways helped Russia (https://www.politicususa.com/2019/01/12/trump-has-hidden-the-details-of-all-5-of-his-meetings-with-putin.html)“destabilize the United States.”

he has done what appears to be Putin’s goals. He has helped Putin destabilize the United States and interfere in the election, no matter whether it was purposeful or not.”

Bernstein also revealed that he knew from his own confidential, high-level sources that Mueller’s draft report would specifically discuss this same assessment, that Putin had used Trump to achieve his goals.

“And that is part of what the draft of Mueller’s report, I’m told, is to be about,”

“We know there has been collusion by former national security adviser Michael Flynn. We know there has been collusion of some sort by Trump’s former campaign chairman Paul Manafort. The question is, yes, what did the president know and when did he know it?”

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/01/14/report-mueller-will-say-trump-helped-putin-destabilize-the-u-s.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

Trash hired a lot of people connected to Russia, and he did it innocently? :lol

boutons_deux

01-14-2019, 10:46 AM

Republican intelligence analyst: ‘The only time Trump’s not shooting himself in Russia probe is when he’s loading the gun’

former Congressional Republican Mike Rogers, who sat on the House Intelligence Committee, explained how

the president raises suspicions when he thrusts himself into the Russia investigation.

Rogers also knocked the president for meeting with Putin without witnesses to take notes.

“He keeps walking into that narrative,” Rogers said.

“I mean, the only time the president is not shooting himself in the foot on the Russia investigation is when he’s reloading the gun,” Rogers added.

“He continues to interject himself in these conversations in a way

that is not helpful for people to now understand what’s going on with Russia.

He keeps feeding that narrative with these kinds of things.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/republican-intelligence-analyst-time-trumps-not-shooting-russia-probe-hes-loading-gun/

boutons_deux

01-14-2019, 11:01 AM

US allies question Trump’s ‘legitimacy’ after new Russia bombshells: former senior diplomat

Former United States Deputy Secretary of State Wendy Sherman told MSNBC on Monday that the United States was in a “dangerous moment” that has America’s allies worried about President Donald Trump’s legitimacy, after

the Washington Post’s bombshell report (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-has-concealed-details-of-his-face-to-face-encounters-with-putin-from-senior-officials-in-administration/2019/01/12/65f6686c-1434-11e9-b6ad-9cfd62dbb0a8_story.html?utm_term=.20a07c5681cb) that Trump went to “extraordinary lengths” to hide, and possibly destroy, the notes from his private meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Helsinki.

“I think we’re in an extraordinarily dangerous moment,” Sherman said.

“When people listen to this around the world, they wonder what the authority of the president of the United States is, whether he has legitimate leadership standing here in this country.”

The picture that U.S. allies see, as related by Sherman, was a country in chaos.

“They see a government that is paralyzed at the moment in the shutdown, and

they see a government where the president of the United States can talk with another leader without anyone present and no one knows what the results of that are,” she said.

“That gives impunity to other leaders around the world and

puts us in a very insecure position, because

the senior leaders in our government don’t know what’s going on.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/us-allies-question-trumps-legitimacy-after-new-russia-bombshells-former-senior-diplomat/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Trash tweets about Jeff Bozo and his WaPo, they they should "chill"

shikil

01-14-2019, 11:37 AM

To be honest, such wild skepticism is very controversial. :hat (https://escortmalaga.info)It is a pity that such a noise rises as a whole from scratch and instead of doing something, we are engaged in disputes and abuse.

Spurs Homer

01-14-2019, 11:44 AM

Apologies to Bonnerific;

but this needs to be posted in THIS THREAD!

Former FBI agent Clint Watts - with the "timeline for dummies on trumps treason"

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1084498964114821120.html

Should really be stickied or posted as its own thread tbh!

boutons_deux

01-14-2019, 12:02 PM

Revelations about Manafort’s 2016 interactions with Russian associate show special counsel’s intense focus on Russia contacts

window into how extensively the special counsel has mapped interactions between Trump associates and Russians in his 20-month-long investigation.

special counsel Robert S. Mueller III has also been scrutinizing interactions between Russians and Manafort while he led Trump’s presidential bid.

Manafort is among at least 14 Trump associates (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/russians-interacted-with-at-least-14-trump-associates-during-the-campaign-and-transition/2018/12/09/71773192-fb13-11e8-8c9a-860ce2a8148f_story.html?utm_term=.a4755ca5662c) who interacted with Russians during the campaign and transition,

much about Mueller’s findings remains unknown in what are widely believed to be the closing weeks of his probe.

Even as he was working for the Trump campaign, Manafort continued to communicate with Konstantin Kilimnik, a Russian employee of his consulting business who the FBI says was linked to Russian intelligence,

A talented translator with impressive language skills, Kilimnik had been trained at a Moscow university known as a recruiting ground for the Russian intelligence services.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/revelations-about-manaforts-2016-interactions-with-russian-associate-show-special-counsels-intense-focus-on-russia-contacts/2019/01/13/0f3733dc-144b-11e9-803c-4ef28312c8b9_story.html?utm_term=.9a7ed6af023e&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

boutons_deux

01-14-2019, 12:03 PM

Trump denies working for Russia, calls past FBI leaders ‘known scoundrels’

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-denies-working-for-russia-calls-past-fbi-leaders-known-scoundrels/2019/01/14/925f394a-180a-11e9-9ebf-c5fed1b7a081_story.html?utm_term=.044913fe7ed7&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

How to make friends with and influence the FBI

TSA

01-14-2019, 12:38 PM

1083833559566159873

Spurs Homer

01-14-2019, 01:07 PM

1083833559566159873

:lol:lol

TSA happily and blindly living in a parallel (fantasy) universe and co-existing peacefully with people like Ducks!

:lol:lol

boutons_deux

01-14-2019, 04:08 PM

Study: Most Innocent People Need to Hire Thirty-Five Lawyers at Some Point

WASHINGTON —Most people who are innocent of any crimes will still need to hire thirty-five lawyers at some point,

thirty-five is the “bare minimum” number of lawyers that an innocent person should have on retainer in the event that he or she becomes the subject of an entirely unjustified criminal investigation.

“We found that many innocent people are going through life without taking the basic precaution of hiring thirty-five lawyers,”

“They are flirting with disaster.”

“An innocent person who has absolutely nothing to hide

should do everything in his or her power to avoid answering questions from investigators,”

“Thirty-five lawyers can really help you do that.”

the powerful statement it makes. “Nothing says ‘I’m innocent’ like hiring thirty-five lawyers,”

thirty-five lawyers provide necessary protection against unforeseen legal complications.

“If, for example, one of your lawyers goes to prison, you will still have thirty-four,”

“Legal bills for thirty-five lawyers can be very expensive, unless you’re a person who doesn’t pay his bills,”

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/study-most-innocent-people-need-to-hire-thirty-five-lawyers-at-some-point (https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/study-most-innocent-people-need-to-hire-thirty-five-lawyers-at-some-point)

boutons_deux

01-14-2019, 05:56 PM

Trump's call-in to Fox News backfires, and he may have committed a felony in the process (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/1/14/1826089/-Trump-s-call-in-to-Fox-News-backfires-and-he-may-have-committed-a-felony-in-the-process)

the Pirro interview, because he did something else remarkable during the call: He suggested that the Fox News host and other media look into Michael Cohen’s father-in-law.

It seems unmistakably clear that

Donald Trump is encouraging a major media network to pursue an investigation of a witness

who is scheduled to publicly testify with damning information on Donald Trump.

This action appears to meet the threshold of felony witness tampering (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1512).

Democrats think so too, and they warned Trump to cease his public attacks on Michael Cohen.

From possible witness tampering to obstruction of justice,

there is a reason Donald Trump is so eager to stop Michael Cohen from telling the world all he knows about Donald Trump.

Cohen’s lawyer and representative, Lanny Davis, told MSNBC’s Kasie Hunt over the weekend (https://www.msnbc.com/kasie-dc/watch/lanny-davis-cohen-to-describe-trump-s-lies-immorality-and-willingness-to-abuse-people-in-congressional-testimony-1425163331514) that

Michael Cohen is quite simply the “greatest threat” to Trump and his presidency:

“Donald Trump sees Michael Cohen, and I would say justifiably,

as the greatest threat to his presidency and what

could be criminal and impeachable actions as president.”

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/1/14/1826089/-Trump-s-call-in-to-Fox-News-backfires-and-he-may-have-committed-a-felony-in-the-process?detail=emaildkre

boutons_deux

01-14-2019, 06:08 PM

Newspapers should demand Trump resign. That's what they told Bill Clinton (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/1/14/1826093/-Newspapers-should-demand-Trump-resign-That-s-what-they-told-Bill-Clinton)

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/1/14/1826093/-Newspapers-should-demand-Trump-resign-That-s-what-they-told-Bill-Clinton?detail=emaildkre

DarrinS

01-14-2019, 06:13 PM

djohn's thread has become bouton's personal echo chamber. smh

boutons_deux

01-14-2019, 06:20 PM

Chris Evans Taunts ‘Smithers’ Lindsey Graham For ‘Shameful 180’ On Trump

The “Avengers” star wonders, “What do they have on you?”

calling out Sen. Lindsey Graham (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/topic/lindsey-graham) (R-S.C.) for his complete about-face on President Donald Trump (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/topic/donald-trump).

Now one of Trump’s staunchest allies, Graham was once one of his sharpest critics.

“You know how you make America great again? Tell Donald Trump to go to hell (https://www.cnn.com/2015/12/08/politics/lindsey-graham-donald-trump-go-to-hell-ted-cruz/index.html),”

Graham told CNN in December 2015.

Evans reminded Graham of those comments, accused him of doing a “shameful 180” and

then wondered if the senator was somehow compromised:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/chris-evans-lindsey-graham-donald-trump_us_5c3c11ffe4b0922a21d62125?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=__Entertainment__011419&utm_content=__Entertainment__011419+Version+B+CID_ 1e761c2a77f00c94c8b7b0acf29ace8c&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=What%20do%20they%20have%20on%20you&ncid=newsltushpmgentertainment__Entertainment__011 419

shikil

01-15-2019, 10:17 AM

Exactly as (https://escortibiza.info) if we were watching the broadcast! A bit tired!

TSA

01-15-2019, 02:46 PM

1085221501903745024

Add another to the list

Pavlov

01-15-2019, 02:50 PM

:lol Gym Jordan

Didn't you care about kids being sexually abused at some point, TSA?

djohn2oo8

01-15-2019, 02:54 PM

:lol Gym Jordan

Didn't you care about kids being sexually abused at some point, TSA?
Only when Hillary ran a child sex ring.

TSA

01-15-2019, 03:13 PM

:lol Gym Jordan

Didn't you care about kids being sexually abused at some point, TSA?

:lol today’s white flag

Pavlov

01-15-2019, 03:22 PM

:lol today’s white flagI don't give a shit about your "leaks bad now" post du jour.

You don't give a shit about kids being sexually abused.

I'd lol but you're kind of pathetic about the kid sex abuse thing tbh.

TSA

01-15-2019, 04:34 PM

I don't give a shit about your "leaks bad now" post du jour.

You don't give a shit about kids being sexually abused.

I'd lol but you're kind of pathetic about the kid sex abuse thing tbh.

A deflection, a lie, a false narrative, and a white flag all in one post

You're shook as fuck :rollin

Pavlov

01-15-2019, 04:37 PM

A deflection, a lie, a false narrative, and a white flag all in one post

You're shook as fuck :rollinShook about what, TSA?

Tell me what the big deal is here.

Explain yourself.

Step up.

Chris

01-15-2019, 07:00 PM

1085221501903745024

Add another to the list

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/former-top-fbi-lawyer-james-baker-is-subject-of-federal-media-leak-probe-transcript-reveals

https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F-yIWc_fyQrCQ%2FUEsdI5YwlBI%2FAAAAAAAACno%2Fcx4tlaf5 eQM%2Fs320%2Fedge-wwe.gif&f=1

Chris

01-15-2019, 07:09 PM

https://twitter.com/karli_bonne/status/1085284414265925632

DarrinS

01-15-2019, 07:29 PM

1085195203873361920

Order now and receive by 2021. :lmao

boutons_deux

01-16-2019, 09:57 AM

JARED KUSHNER: BLACKMAIL AND WITNESS TAMPERING ARE “FAMILY MATTERS”

The First Son-in-Law has some interesting views on federal crime.

https://media.vanityfair.com/photos/5c100369467e052d345bbc94/master/w_1920,c_limit/jaredkushnermbs.jpg

T (https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/01/jared-kushner-chris-christie-book?mbid=nl_th_5c3e5bf4a358ac6e49188c10&CNDID=43758549&utm_source=nl&utm_medium=email&utm_brand=vf&utm_mailing=vyf_hive_news_20190116%20(1)&bxid=MzI5MjgzNzg1MjQ4S0&hasha=992d608214b505003aa04bf10a595031&hashb=542eb31d958e85ddd5a4c3ccf3faae18526a77bd&spMailingID=14964314&spUserID=MzI5MjgzNzg1MjQ4S0&spJobID=1561290195&spReportId=MTU2MTI5MDE5NQS2)he Trump White House was always bound to be a low-wattage operation, considering the professional grifters the campaign attracted

In a memoir slated for release at the end of the month, the ex–New Jersey governor accuses (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jan/15/chris-christie-book-jared-kushner-accusations-hit-job) the First Son-in-Law of carrying out a political “hit job” on him as revenge for prosecuting his father, Charles Kushner, a decade prior. For those not up to speed on the criminal history of the president’s in-laws,

in 2005, Kushner the Elder pleaded guilty to 18 counts of illegal campaign contributions, tax evasion, and witness tampering

Trump ended up hiring Christie anyway, but Jared, who seemingly believes

criminal acts should be settled at a diner on the New Jersey Turnpike, never relented.

Jared Kushner has gone on the record with his belief that his father did nothing wrong in committing a host of federal crimes.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/01/jared-kushner-chris-christie-book?mbid=nl_th_5c3e5bf4a358ac6e49188c10&CNDID=43758549&utm_source=nl&utm_medium=email&utm_brand=vf&utm_mailing=vyf_hive_news_20190116%20(1)&bxid=MzI5MjgzNzg1MjQ4S0&hasha=992d608214b505003aa04bf10a595031&hashb=542eb31d958e85ddd5a4c3ccf3faae18526a77bd&spMailingID=14964314&spUserID=MzI5MjgzNzg1MjQ4S0&spJobID=1561290195&spReportId=MTU2MTI5MDE5NQS2

(https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/01/jared-kushner-chris-christie-book?mbid=nl_th_5c3e5bf4a358ac6e49188c10&CNDID=43758549&utm_source=nl&utm_medium=email&utm_brand=vf&utm_mailing=vyf_hive_news_20190116%20(1)&bxid=MzI5MjgzNzg1MjQ4S0&hasha=992d608214b505003aa04bf10a595031&hashb=542eb31d958e85ddd5a4c3ccf3faae18526a77bd&spMailingID=14964314&spUserID=MzI5MjgzNzg1MjQ4S0&spJobID=1561290195&spReportId=MTU2MTI5MDE5NQS2)

boutons_deux

01-16-2019, 10:28 AM

DEMOCRATS AREN’T THE ONLY ONES WAITING FOR MUELLER

Republican strategists plotting a 2020 challenge are hoping Mueller does their dirty work.

https://media.vanityfair.com/photos/5c3e5063fe877f02adebad5e/master/w_1920,c_limit/Republicans-Hoping-for-2020-Mueller.jpg

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/01/republicans-waiting-for-mueller-report-trump-2020-primary?mbid=nl_th_5c3e5bf4a358ac6e49188c10&utm_source=nl&utm_medium=email&utm_brand=vf&utm_mailing=vyf_hive_news_20190116%20(1)&bxid=MzI5MjgzNzg1MjQ4S0&hasha=992d608214b505003aa04bf10a595031&hashb=542eb31d958e85ddd5a4c3ccf3faae18526a77bd&spMailingID=14964314&spUserID=MzI5MjgzNzg1MjQ4S0&spJobID=1561290195&spReportId=MTU2MTI5MDE5NQS2

boutons_deux

01-16-2019, 12:30 PM

Source close to Cohen reports his testimony about working for a 'madman' will 'cause chills' (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/1/15/1826536/-WSJ-Source-close-to-Cohen-reports-his-testimony-about-working-for-a-madman-will-cause-chills)

to testify before the House Oversight Committee on February 7, 2019—a date that may go down in history.

“He’s going to tell the story of what it’s like to work for a madman,

and why he did it for so long,”

said the person close to Mr. Cohen.

“He’s going to say things that will give you chills.”https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/1/15/1826536/-WSJ-Source-close-to-Cohen-reports-his-testimony-about-working-for-a-madman-will-cause-chills?detail=emaildkre (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/1/15/1826536/-WSJ-Source-close-to-Cohen-reports-his-testimony-about-working-for-a-madman-will-cause-chills?detail=emaildkre)

boutons_deux

01-16-2019, 06:11 PM

This 2017 video of Trump and Putin in Germany is going viral—with significant new context (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/1/16/1826730/-This-2017-video-of-Trump-and-Putin-in-Germany-is-going-viral-with-significant-new-context)

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/887791141839568896

embarrassed by Donald Trump’s childish, needy hand signals to the Russian president.

Trump was desperate to get his attention.

When you watch the clip, notice German Chancellor Angela Merkel practically gets whiplash as she turns to see how Putin is responding to Trump’s signals.

the day of this dinner, July 7, 2017, the New York Times contacted the White House for comment on a story they were about to break—

that Donald Trump, Jr., Jared Kushner, and Paul Manafort had a secret meeting at Trump Tower in June 2016 with Russian lawyer Natalia V. Veselnitskaya,

a woman with known Kremlin ties who would later be indicted for obstruction of justice related to a Russian money laundering case she was working on, apparently with the blessing and support of the Kremlin.

https://images.dailykos.com/images/633019/large/Russia%20Adoption%20Story%20Timeline%20%285%29.jpe g?1547664615
That call from the New York Times must’ve set off some panic because Donald Trump’s behavior started to get incredibly suspicious on July 7, 2017:

He confiscated the interpreter’s notes and instructed her not to brief anyone on the discussions with Putin and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov
He desperately sought Putin’s attention at the formal dinner, gesturing “You, me, together”
He sought a private conversation with Putin, did not inform any of his own White House staff or national security advisers of the meeting

The following day, July 8, 2017, just before the New York Times published the story,

Donald Trump personally dictated a statement as cover for Donald Trump, Jr.

NYT only revealed today: (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/15/us/politics/trump-putin-meetings.html)

The day after the two meetings, as Mr. Trump was on Air Force One taking off from Germany heading back to Washington, he telephoned a Times reporter and argued that the Russians were falsely accused of election interference.

While he insisted most of the conversation be off the record, he later repeated a few things in public in little-noticed asides.

He said that he raised the election hacking three times and that Mr. Putin denied involvement.

But he said

Mr. Putin also told him that “if we did, we wouldn’t have gotten caught because we’re professionals.”

Mr. Trump said:

“I thought that was a good point because they are some of the best in the world” at hacking.

Trump tried to sell a cover story that Russia couldn’t be behind it because they never would’ve been caught,

directly refuting the conclusion of 17 U.S. Intelligence agencies (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/10/21/17-intelligence-agencies-russia-behind-hacking/92514592/).

it seems increasingly likely Donald Trump was seeking that private meeting to make sure he and Putin had their stories straight before the New York Times bombshell went worldwide.

only after news of Trump and Putin’s secretive second meeting leaked,

Trump told the New York Times he and Putin largely discussed Russian adoption.

Did he and Putin concoct this cover story?

If that is the case, Vladimir Putin would have even more blackmail material on Donald Trump.

Donald Trump held that jaw-dropping press conference, rebuking U.S. Intelligence services as he stood next to Putin.

From easing sanctions,

to troop withdrawal in Syria, hell—

even Trump’s trade war has benefited Putin,

as the Chinese are increasingly turning to Russia for soybeans and other agricultural goods.

updated chart

https://images.dailykos.com/images/633045/large/Russia%20Adoption%20Story%20Timeline%20%287%29.jpe g?1547667232

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/1/16/1826730/-This-2017-video-of-Trump-and-Putin-in-Germany-is-going-viral-with-significant-new-context

Pavlov

01-16-2019, 06:18 PM

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/887791141839568896

embarrassed by Donald Trump’s childish, needy hand signals to the Russian president.

Trump was desperate to get his attention.Offering up a handy.

boutons_deux

01-16-2019, 07:00 PM

Offering up a handy.

good catch, Trash jacking off Pootin

boutons_deux

01-16-2019, 07:01 PM

more Trash doing Pootin's biddng, unleashing Pootin from a military treaty

No breakthrough with Russia on missile treaty, U.S. set to start withdrawal

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-nuclear/no-breakthrough-with-russia-on-missile-treaty-u-s-set-to-start-withdrawal-idUSKCN1PA2C3?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Reuters%2FPoliticsNews+%28Reu ters+Politics+News%29

FlAVaK

01-16-2019, 07:07 PM

887808198501179393

TSA

01-16-2019, 07:37 PM

1085632725757902849

It’s Barr time

Pavlov

01-16-2019, 07:39 PM

1085632725757902849

It’s Barr timeWho is Julie Kelly?

DMC

01-16-2019, 07:44 PM

Offering up a handy.

You and your homoerotic fantasies.

Pavlov

01-16-2019, 07:45 PM

Nothing erotic about that.

Maybe to you. That would make sense.

boutons_deux

01-16-2019, 07:46 PM

The GOP gives Deripaska his sanction lift, because they can't (not) p(l)ay favorites (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/1/16/1826815/-The-GOP-gives-Deripaska-his-sanction-lift-because-they-can-t-not-p-l-ay-favorites)

So not only is a specific Russian oligarch getting a break (yes he has a modified ownership stake but we know how much that’s worth in offshore accounts and shell companies), but the one specifically owed money by Paul Manafort.

members of the GOP in a vote of 57-42 are benefiting from such an obvious bit of crony capitalism by the Trump administration.

The Senate blocked a Democratic bid to force the Treasury Department to keep sanctions on three Russian companies linked to oligarch Oleg Deripaska, as most Republicans backed the Trump administration’s plan to lift the penalties.

The 57-42 Senate vote Wednesday was three short of the 60 needed to advance the Democrats’ resolution to a final vote.

As a result, the Treasury Department likely will be able to move forward with its plan announced Dec. 19 to lift sanctions against three companies Deripaska controls -- United Co. Rusal, En+ Group Plc and EuroSibEnergo JSC.

Under Deripaska’s agreement with Treasury to remove sanctions from the three companies,

the oligarch would cut his ownership shares to about 45 percent of each company, the boards of En+ and Rusal would be overhauled, and they would submit to Treasury audits.

Schumer and other critics say

the agreement would still let Deripaska control the companies through his close ties to other shareholders.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/1/16/1826815/-The-GOP-gives-Deripaska-his-sanction-lift-because-they-can-t-not-p-l-ay-favorites?utm_campaign=trending

The entire Repug party is compromied and sucking Russian dick

Spurs Homer

01-16-2019, 08:23 PM

TSA

01-16-2019, 08:36 PM

This is the kind of shit that trump supporters support.

Our country is infested with traitors.

Why do you hate the EU?

1085647666996961280

TSA

01-16-2019, 08:38 PM

Ohr shit!

1085696927457529857

The memo from Rep. Adam Schiff's (D-Calif.) team claimed that Ohr's contacts with the FBI only began "weeks after the election and more than a month after the Court approved the initial FISA application."

But Ohr's testimony now debunks that claim, making clear he started talking to FBI and DOJ officials well before the FISA warrant or election had occurred.

And his detailed answers provide a damning rebuttal to the FBI's portrayal of the Steele material.

In fact, the FBI did have derogatory information on Steele: Ohr explicitly told the FBI that Steele was desperate to defeat the man he was investigating and was biased.

And the FBI knew the motive of the client and did not have to speculate: Ohr told agents the Democratic nominee's campaign was connected to the research designed to harm Trump's election chances.

Such omissions are, by definition, an abuse of the FISA system.

Spurs Homer

01-16-2019, 08:46 PM

bedshitter activated!

Pavlov

01-16-2019, 08:54 PM

TSA

01-16-2019, 08:54 PM

Why are you always on the bed?

TSA

01-16-2019, 08:59 PM

It's not a shocker.

It's not FISA abuse.

Muh Horowitz will confirm.

Don’t take my word for it. Fired FBI Director James Comey acknowledged it himself when he testified last month that the FISA court relies on an honor system, in which the FBI is expected to divulge exculpatory evidence to the judges.

“We certainly consider it our obligation, because of our trust relationship with federal judges, to present evidence that would paint a materially different picture of what we're presenting,” Comey testified on Dec. 7, 2018. “You want to present to the judge reviewing your application a complete picture of the evidence, both its flaws and its strengths.”

Pavlov

01-16-2019, 09:01 PM

Don’t take my word for it. Fired FBI Director James Comey acknowledged it himself when he testified last month that the FISA court relies on an honor system, in which the FBI is expected to divulge exculpatory evidence to the judges.

“We certainly consider it our obligation, because of our trust relationship with federal judges, to present evidence that would paint a materially different picture of what we're presenting,” Comey testified on Dec. 7, 2018. “You want to present to the judge reviewing your application a complete picture of the evidence, both its flaws and its strengths.”

They did.

Muh Horowitz will confirm.

TSA

01-16-2019, 09:03 PM

They did.

Muh Horowitz will confirm.

Want to put an ELE bet on that?

spurraider21

01-16-2019, 09:13 PM

FISA application disclosed that it was political opposition research intended to discredit candidate trump

bias was disclosed

same shit's been recycled over and over again since muh memo

TSA

01-16-2019, 09:21 PM

FISA application disclosed that it was political opposition research intended to discredit candidate trump

bias was disclosed

same shit's been recycled over and over again since muh memo

Steele’s bias and the Clinton campaign funding via Perkins Coie were not disclosed to the court. Both were known by the FBI at the time of the application.

TSA

01-16-2019, 09:25 PM

It’s Barr time

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/william-barr-made-some-big-promises-to-lindsey-graham-including-a-strzok-page-investigation/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

spurraider21

01-16-2019, 09:34 PM

Steele’s bias and the Clinton campaign funding via Perkins Coie were not disclosed to the court. Both were known by the FBI at the time of the application.
they told the court it was political opposition research aimed at discrediting candidate trump. how is that anything but a disclosure of bias?

ElNono

01-16-2019, 09:35 PM

they told the court it was political opposition research aimed at discrediting candidate trump. how is that anything but a disclosure of bias?

you don't get it, tbh... Steele hates Trump... that's not allowed.

Spurs Homer

01-16-2019, 09:36 PM

Steele’s bias and the Clinton campaign funding via Perkins Coie were not disclosed to the court. Both were known by the FBI at the time of the application.

Steele's bias in your eyes as a trump fellater is not the same as the truth -

which is:

Steele saw evidence that the Russians owned Trump. Steele realized that Trump was a Russian asset and as a veteran officer of the law - he did his duty and absolutely did not want Trump to be elected as this would hurt the USA.

Some bias.
Same as any patriot - when they see a danger to their country. Steele did the USA a favor and traitor idiots like you and the GOP stabbed a friend in the back.

You really got issues.

Actually - come to think of it -

this also applies to Strock/Page

they had seen EVIDENCE of Trump/Russia fuckery and in NO WAY - did officers of the law want the USA to be cursed with a fraud president winning the election.

Idiot traitors like you made sure though = that our country was compromised by electing Russia's asset.

TSA

01-16-2019, 09:38 PM

they told the court it was political opposition research aimed at discrediting candidate trump. how is that anything but a disclosure of bias?

“I certainly told the FBI that Fusion GPS was working with, doing opposition research on Donald Trump,” Ohr told congressional investigators, adding that he warned the FBI that Steele expressed bias during their conversations.

“I provided information to the FBI when I thought Christopher Steele was, as I said, desperate that Trump not be elected,” he added. “So, yes, of course I provided that to the FBI.”

When pressed why he would offer that information to the FBI, Ohr answered: “In case there might be any kind of bias or anything like that.” He added later, “So when I provided it to the FBI, I tried to be clear that this is source information, I don’t know how reliable it is. You’re going to have to check it out and be aware.”

Ohr went further, saying he disclosed to FBI agents that his wife and Steele were working for the same firm and that it was conducting the Trump-Russia research project at the behest of Trump’s Democratic rival, the Clinton campaign

TSA

01-16-2019, 09:39 PM

Steele's bias in your eyes as a trump fellater is not the same as the truth -

which is:

Steele saw evidence that the Russians owned Trump. Steele realized that Trump was a Russian asset and as a veteran officer of the law - he did his duty and absolutely did not want Trump to be elected as this would hurt the USA.

Some bias.
Same as any patriot - when they see a danger to their country. Steele did the USA a favor and traitor idiots like you and the GOP stabbed a friend in the back.

You really got issues.

:rollin

TSA

01-16-2019, 09:41 PM

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spurraider21

01-16-2019, 09:43 PM

“I certainly told the FBI that Fusion GPS was working with, doing opposition research on Donald Trump,” Ohr told congressional investigators, adding that he warned the FBI that Steele expressed bias during their conversations.

“I provided information to the FBI when I thought Christopher Steele was, as I said, desperate that Trump not be elected,” he added. “So, yes, of course I provided that to the FBI.”

When pressed why he would offer that information to the FBI, Ohr answered: “In case there might be any kind of bias or anything like that.” He added later, “So when I provided it to the FBI, I tried to be clear that this is source information, I don’t know how reliable it is. You’re going to have to check it out and be aware.”

Ohr went further, saying he disclosed to FBI agents that his wife and Steele were working for the same firm and that it was conducting the Trump-Russia research project at the behest of Trump’s Democratic rival, the Clinton campaign
uh huh.

and then in the FISA application they informed the judge of the potential bias by disclosing that the dossier was political opposition research conducted in an effort to discredit candidate trump

you're just upset that they didn't disclose it in the way you think they should have. as long as the judge is aware of bias, it doesn't really matter that the bias was from a guy named christopher steele and not john malkovich

TSA

01-16-2019, 09:44 PM

they told the court it was political opposition research aimed at discrediting candidate trump. how is that anything but a disclosure of bias?

Did they tell the court it was unverified oppo research?

If Carter Page was indeed working as an agent of a foreign country as the FBI claimed to get the FISA why hasn’t he been indicted?

spurraider21

01-16-2019, 09:46 PM

Did they tell the court it was unverified oppo research?

If Carter Page was indeed working as an agent of a foreign country as the FBI claimed to get the FISA why hasn’t he been indicted?
the probable cause required to get a warrant is a much lower standard than the "beyond reasonable doubt" which they would need to convict (and prosecutors wouldn't indict somebody unless they thought they had enough to convict, as evidenced by the astronomical conviction rate of the feds)

just because they had probable cause to get a warrant doesn't mean the guy is guilty or that have enough evidence to prove that beyond a reasonable doubt.

besides, to renew the FISA application, there's an additional burden they must meet, which they did 3 separate times. you cant just resubmit the same application and get it renewed. you need new information learned through the surveillance authorized by the previous warrant.

Spurs Homer

01-16-2019, 09:47 PM

TSA

01-16-2019, 09:48 PM

FISA application disclosed that it was political opposition research intended to discredit candidate trump

bias was disclosed

same shit's been recycled over and over again since muh memo

Speaking of memo’s why would Schiff lie about Ohr’s contacts with the FBI?

TSA

01-16-2019, 09:49 PM

You sound like a retarded version of Sean Hannity.

Your boy is a fucking criminal and a russian asset - just deal with it.

:lol:lol

You’re going to be so disappointed.

spurraider21

01-16-2019, 09:49 PM

Speaking of memo’s why would Schiff lie about Ohr’s contacts with the FBI?
no clue if he was ignorant, misinformed, or lied outright. if he lied outright, that should be looked into.

either way, i never put weight into anybody's "muh memo" because those are just political noise.

spurraider21

01-16-2019, 09:50 PM

proof that the memos dont mean jack shit.

what was the legal effect of the nunes memo after its release?

TSA

01-16-2019, 09:52 PM

the probable cause required to get a warrant is a much lower standard than the "beyond reasonable doubt" which they would need to convict (and prosecutors wouldn't indict somebody unless they thought they had enough to convict, as evidenced by the astronomical conviction rate of the feds)

just because they had probable cause to get a warrant doesn't mean the guy is guilty or that have enough evidence to prove that beyond a reasonable doubt.

besides, to renew the FISA application, there's an additional burden they must meet, which they did 3 separate times. you cant just resubmit the same application and get it renewed. you need new information learned through the surveillance authorized by the previous warrant.

They claimed Carter Page was working as an agent of Russia and used to Steele dossier to back that. They used as Comey admitted, unverified claims, and submitted them to the court.

spurraider21

01-16-2019, 09:53 PM

if they chose to not inform the judge of potential bias because the dossier was political opposition research intended to discredit candidate trump, i think you'd have a much better argument that they deceived the judge to get a fisa warrant.

but that's not what happened. instead, they informed the judge of potential bias because the dossier was political opposition research intended to discredit candidate trump

this just comes down to you thinkin that they should have worded it differently or more specifically. all that matters is that the judge was aware, at the time of granting the application, that the dossier had a strong potential for bias. and he granted it anyway. and then 3 other extensions were granted by (i could be wrong) 3 other judges. and iirc all of them were republican appointees?

TSA

01-16-2019, 09:55 PM

proof that the memos dont mean jack shit.

what was the legal effect of the nunes memo after its release?Investigations are still ongoing.

McCabe and Baker are both under criminal investigation. I’m guessing there are more that will be revealed once Barr is confirmed and Rosenstein is out of the way.

TSA

01-16-2019, 09:57 PM

TSA

01-16-2019, 09:58 PM

Want to put an ELE bet on that?

It’s not a tough question Pavlov. Yes or no?

DarrinS

01-16-2019, 10:00 PM

Why was our IC so eager to believe in the dossier?

spurraider21

01-16-2019, 10:02 PM

Why was our IC so eager to believe in the dossier?
Because they wanted to pwn trump by not disclosing the existence of the investigation until after the election.

spurraider21

01-16-2019, 10:03 PM

Investigations are still ongoing.

McCabe and Baker are both under criminal investigation. I’m guessing there are more that will be revealed once Barr is confirmed and Rosenstein is out of the way.
Those would have happened irrespective of the memo

DarrinS

01-16-2019, 10:06 PM

Because they wanted to pwn trump by not disclosing the existence of the investigation until after the election.

It was a serious question. Why TF is our director of CIA running to Harry Reid's office with oppo research?

I would hope our IC has better intel than that.

Pavlov

01-16-2019, 10:10 PM

It’s not a tough question Pavlov.You're right.

lol muh bets

Pavlov

01-16-2019, 10:14 PM

Why was our IC so eager to believe in the dossier?Steele has a good reputation in intel circles.

Still does.

It's not like Carter Page wasn't previously recruited by the Russians either.

TSA

01-16-2019, 10:19 PM

You're right.

lol muh bets

Don’t be a bitch. ELE bet yes or no.

TSA

01-16-2019, 10:20 PM

You think the judge would have granted the warrant if the FBI had been forthcoming and said they knew the dossier was funded by the Clinton campaign Via Perkins Coie?

spurraider21 ?

Pavlov

01-16-2019, 10:22 PM

Don’t be a bitch. ELE bet yes or no.No.

There is no guarantee you would leave after you just moved to this current screen name.

Pavlov

01-16-2019, 10:23 PM

spurraider21 ?That's not how FISA works.

You already know this.

TSA

01-16-2019, 10:23 PM

Steele has a good reputation in intel circles.

Still does.

It's not like Carter Page wasn't previously recruited by the Russians either.

When was the last time Steele was in Russia?

Pavlov

01-16-2019, 10:24 PM

When was the last time Steele was in Russia?Doesn't matter.

This isn't how FISA works.

You know this.

TSA

01-16-2019, 10:26 PM

No.

There is no guarantee you would leave after you just moved to this current screen name.

This current screen name wasn’t in my previous ELE bet.

I honor all bets here. I’m not a welsher. I don’t post under any other screen name, this is it. You have my guarantee I will not open another account and continue posting if I lose.

Do we have an ELE bet yes or no?

TSA

01-16-2019, 10:28 PM

Doesn't matter.

This isn't how FISA works.

You know this.

Why dodge the question? You want to paint Steele as some super spy with super Russian contacts. When was the last time Steele was in Russia?

Pavlov

01-16-2019, 10:28 PM

This current screen name wasn’t in my previous ELE bet.

I honor all bets here. I’m not a welsher. I don’t post under any other screen name, this is it. You have my guarantee I will not open another account and continue posting if I lose.

Do we have an ELE bet yes or no?No.

There is no guarantee ever.

Not from you.

Pavlov

01-16-2019, 10:30 PM

Why dodge the question? You want to paint Steele as some super spy with super Russian contacts. When was the last time Steele was in Russia?I don't know.

It's obvious none of this is relevant at this point, TSA.

Call your shot -- what FISA abuse are you going to say will be found by muh Horowitz?

TSA

01-16-2019, 10:31 PM

No.

There is no guarantee ever.

Not from you.

Such a pussy. It’s pathetic how much this site means to your life :lol

You’ve made it clear you are too scared of an ELE bet. I’ll change it up.

Loser can’t post here for 3 months. Deal?

TSA

01-16-2019, 10:32 PM

I don't know.

It's obvious none of this is relevant at this point, TSA.

Call your shot -- what FISA abuse are you going to say will be found by muh Horowitz?

I’m good with letting the investigation run it’s course. You’ve used that cop out numerous times so I know you’ll accept that answer.

Pavlov

01-16-2019, 10:33 PM

Such a pussy. It’s pathetic how much this site means to your life :lol

You’ve made it clear you are too scared of an ELE bet. I’ll change it up.

Loser can’t post here for 3 months. Deal?I don't take muh bets.

I've taken one and the guy weaseled out of it.

I've seen you weasel out of them.

Sorry.

TSA

01-16-2019, 10:34 PM

I don't take muh bets.

I've taken one and the guy weaseled out of it.

I've seen you weasel out of them.

Sorry.

Why do you insist on lying? I’ve never weaseled out of a bet. Name the bet I weaseled out of.

Edit: them? Multiple bets you’ve claimed you’ve seen me weasel out of? :lol

You’re so pathetic.

DarrinS

01-16-2019, 10:34 PM

Steele has a good reputation in intel circles.

Still does.

It's not like Carter Page wasn't previously recruited by the Russians either.

I'm betting that reputation has changed.

TSA

01-16-2019, 10:36 PM

I'm betting that reputation has changed.

He doesn’t bet :rollin

Pavlov

01-16-2019, 10:36 PM

Why do you insist on lying? I’ve never weaseled out of a bet. Name the bet I weaseled out of.The one about the screen name. It was weasely and meaningless.

I know want to talk all about muh bets, but you have your answer for now and forever.

Sorry.

Pavlov

01-16-2019, 10:37 PM

I'm betting that reputation has changed.Nope.

Still in business.

Not everyone lives in your bubble, Darrin. People who understand intelligence understand Steele.

TSA

01-16-2019, 10:43 PM

The one about the screen name. It was weasely and meaningless.

I know want to talk all about muh bets, but you have your answer for now and forever.

Sorry.

You’re a little bitch and a liar.

Sorry.

Pavlov

01-16-2019, 10:48 PM

You’re a little bitch and a liar.

Sorry.:lol offended because I deemed your weasel bet weasel-y.

Sorry.

Now that that is settled, what are you saying muh Horowitz is going to find RE: FISA and who's going to face what penalties?

DarrinS

01-16-2019, 10:57 PM

Nope.

Still in business.

Not everyone lives in your bubble, Darrin. People who understand intelligence understand Steele.

Oh, do tell us about your understanding of intelligence. I'm all ears.

:corn:

Pavlov

01-16-2019, 11:00 PM

Oh, do tell us about your understanding of intelligence. I'm all ears.

:corn:It's not the same as the criminal evidence you see on Walker: Texas Ranger, Darrin.

DMC

01-16-2019, 11:03 PM

It's not the same as the criminal evidence you see on Walker: Texas Ranger, Darrin.
Oh wow, that's some operator level shit you just dropped. Careful about OPSEC.

DarrinS

01-16-2019, 11:04 PM

It's not the same as the criminal evidence you see on Walker: Texas Ranger, Darrin.

I've never watched a single episode. Tell us about your expertise in intelligence.

:corn:

TSA

01-16-2019, 11:06 PM

:lol offended because I deemed your weasel bet weasel-y.

Sorry.

Now that that is settled, what are you saying muh Horowitz is going to find RE: FISA and who's going to face what penalties?

I already answered your question.

I’m not offended by your lying I actually find it funny, and sad at the same time. You were forced to lie about me in order to weasel out of accepting a bet because the thought of not being able to post here for 3 months was too much for you. Think about how pathetic that makes you.

Pavlov

01-16-2019, 11:11 PM

Oh wow, that's some operator level shit you just dropped. Careful about OPSEC.It's something you simply don't understand, Darrin.

I don't know why you refuse to understand these simple things that have been explained over and over and over, but there you are.

Pavlov

01-16-2019, 11:14 PM

I've never watched a single episode. Tell us about your expertise in intelligence.

:corn:I just proved I know more than you.

Sorry Darrin. I get that you want badly to believe in this conspiracy theory you are terrified to articulate, but sometimes the answers are just as simple as saying things like getting a surveillance warrant isn't the same as proving a criminal case in court.

Pavlov

01-16-2019, 11:16 PM

I already answered your question.

I’m not offended by your lying I actually find it funny, and sad at the same time. You were forced to lie about me in order to weasel out of accepting a bet because the thought of not being able to post here for 3 months was too much for you. Think about how pathetic that makes you.No, I simply refused your bet.

I think bets here are stupid.

You proved it with your meaningless weasel bet.

Now it's all you want to talk about. Which is probably a good idea for you, since your FISA conspiracy is another dead end for you.

boutons_deux

01-16-2019, 11:18 PM

Conservative floored by Rudy Giuliani basically admitting Trump’s campaign colluded with Russia to win the presidency

Max Boot (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/here-are-18-reasons-why-trump-could-be-a-russian-asset/2019/01/13/45b1b250-174f-11e9-88fe-f9f77a3bcb6c_story.html) said that the interview was “something we have never seen” and that

Giuliani was attempting to create a new narrative before new evidence of Trump’s connection to Russia surfaces.

“I think we’re about one or two days away from Rudy Giuliani (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/rudy-giuliani-claims-never-said-no-collusion-trump-russia/) saying that collusion with hostile foreign powers is what makes America great.”

“This is just stunning because

when Giuliani makes these kinds of concessions — and you’ve got to play that clip over and over again because

the president’s lawyer is basically admitting that the president’s campaign colluded with Russia to [impact] the outcome of the American election.”

‘I’m not denying there’s collusion.

I’m just saying it didn’t involve the president personally.

I’m saying the president didn’t personally break the law.’

This is establishing a new defensive perimeter.”

“He’s basically signaling that he knows there is very strong evidence of collusion, and

he is trying to get out ahead of that evidence,”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/conservative-commentator-hints-that-rudy-giuliani-is-trying-to-get-ahead-of-damaging-evidence-of-trump-putin-collusion/

DarrinS

01-16-2019, 11:19 PM

I just proved I know more than you.

Sorry Darrin. I get that you want badly to believe in this conspiracy theory you are terrified to articulate, but sometimes the answers are just as simple as saying things like getting a surveillance warrant isn't the same as proving a criminal case in court.

Lol, Russia collusion twoofer.

Can't wait for Mueller report.

Pavlov

01-16-2019, 11:21 PM

Lol, Russia collusion twoofer.I've told you my conspiracy theory, Darrin.

What's yours?

Step up.

Let's compare them.

boutons_deux

01-16-2019, 11:21 PM

Ex-RNC chair says ‘it’s all collusion’ for GOP senators defending Russian oligarch for Trump administration

by filibustering a bill to keep sanctions on Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska.

“This is an example of circling the wagons on the hill,” Steele explained.

“Trying to give some space, some elbow room,

to the president right now to sort of shift the narrative a little bit, to sort of refocus the conversation.”

“You look at the news today, wow,

these senators are like — they don’t care,” Melber said.

“They don’t care and this small group is the ones still tethered tightly to the president

and they, like I said,

are circling the wagon using the legislative process to slow down or gum up this information,”

“It’s all collusion,” Steele replied.

“It’s all collusion, in my estimation,

if you’re taking these steps,

the facts as we now see them being laid out and you’re going to slow the roll legislatively,

then you’re now a part of the narrative just as much as anyone else is as far as I’m concerned.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/ex-rnc-chair-says-collusion-gop-senators-defending-russian-oligarch-trump-administration/

DarrinS

01-16-2019, 11:25 PM

I've told you my conspiracy theory, Darrin.

What's yours?

Step up.

Let's compare them.

:cry step up :cry

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, unlike you

Pavlov

01-16-2019, 11:27 PM

:cry step up :cry

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, unlike youOf course you are, Darrin.

You think there was a conspiracy in the FBI/CIA/Obama administration to get Trump.

Why deny it now?

boutons_deux

01-16-2019, 11:35 PM

Robert Mueller’s team packed with ‘bribery experts’ to expose favors between Trump-Putin

https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Trump-Putin-1.jpg

Mueller hired bribery experts that work to investigate the favors given between Trump and Russia’s President Vladimir Putin.

“One of Mueller’s senior prosecutors, Andrew Weissmann, was the former chief of the DOJ’s Criminal Fraud division, (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/maddow-putin-blackmail-bottle-trump-tricks-russia-command/)where he decided anti-bribery policy at a very high level.

Another member of his legal team, Greg Andres, oversaw the DOJ’s foreign bribery program,”

“[Mueller] brought in expertise in the way these deals are arranged to look very innocuous,”

“The thing about bribery deals is they’re always arranged to look very legitimate.”

Trump offered a penthouse room to Putin in exchange (https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-organization-putin-penthouse-trump-tower-moscow-2018-11) for a Trump Tower in Moscow in 2015.

“So it wouldn’t be a surprise if Trump’s relationship with Russia was built around the exchange of favors, legal or not,”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/mueller-brought-on-bribery-experts-to-expose-favors-between-trump-putin/

TSA

01-16-2019, 11:35 PM

Pavlov

01-16-2019, 11:36 PM

Terrified of a 3 month hiatus :lol:lol I've already done that, genius.

:lol Terrified of talking about anything but muh bets.

TSA

01-16-2019, 11:37 PM

TSA

01-16-2019, 11:37 PM

:lol I've already done that, genius.

:lol Terrified of talking about anything but muh bets.

:lol another 3 months just too much too bare

Pavlov

01-16-2019, 11:39 PM

:lol another 3 months just too much too bare:lol "bare"
:lol Terrified of talking about anything but muh bets.

Nbadan

01-16-2019, 11:41 PM

Looks like Trump is already throwing the mice under the bus ahead of Mueller indictments...

Rudy Giuliani says Trump didn't collude with Russia but can't say if campaign aides did
Source: CNN

(CNN)Rudy Giuliani said Wednesday that he never denied President Donald Trump's campaign colluded with the Russian government during the 2016 campaign, only that the President himself was not involved in collusion.

In an interview with CNN's Chris Cuomo on "Cuomo Prime Time," Giuliani, a former New York mayor and Trump's attorney, said he doesn't know if other people in the campaign, including former campaign chairman Paul Manafort, were working with the Kremlin during the 2016 presidential race.

"I never said there was no collusion between the campaign, or people in the campaign," Giuliani said.

He added, "I said the President of the United States. There is not a single bit of evidence the President of the United States committed the only crime you can commit here, conspiring with the Russians to hack the DNC."

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/16/politics/rudy-giuliani-cnntv/index.html

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1085722355421241344

DarrinS

01-16-2019, 11:44 PM

Looks like Trump is already throwing the mice under the bus ahead of Mueller indictments...

Rudy Giuliani says Trump didn't collude with Russia but can't say if campaign aides did
Source: CNN

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/16/politics/rudy-giuliani-cnntv/index.html

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1085722355421241344

Board 9/11 twoofer posting about...

Pavlov

01-16-2019, 11:46 PM

Looks like Trump is already throwing the mice under the bus ahead of Mueller indictments...

Rudy Giuliani says Trump didn't collude with Russia but can't say if campaign aides did
Source: CNN

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/16/politics/rudy-giuliani-cnntv/index.html

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1085722355421241344So my conspiracy theory jibes with Trump's lawyer's conspiracy theory.:tu

DarrinS

01-16-2019, 11:51 PM

So my conspiracy theory jibes with Trump's lawyer's conspiracy theory.:tu

You are in the same page with 9/11 twoofer. Congrats

Nbadan

01-16-2019, 11:55 PM

You are in the same page with 9/11 twoofer. Congrats

Like Darrin is the bastion of truthiness here lol

Pavlov

01-16-2019, 11:57 PM

You are in the same page with 9/11 twoofer. CongratsDarrin, I've told you exactly what my conspiracy theory is and it's basically what Nosferatu acceded to.

What is your theory about the FBI/CIA/Obama administration's conspiracy to get Trump?

I know you prefer to just post YouTubes and memes boring people shared with you, but I'm asking you directly what you think.

boutons_deux

01-17-2019, 12:08 AM

Thinking the unthinkable about Donald Trump

What if Trump really is working for Russia? What then?

“Agents also sought to determine whether Mr. Trump was knowingly working for Russia or had unwittingly fallen under Moscow’s influence.”

What did the “work” Trump may have been doing for Russia consist of?

Why would an independently wealthy businessman like Trump “work” for a country which has opposed us around the world for so long?

he appeared to have been unaware that the FBI was exploring the question of whether he worked for Russia.

it seems that at least

working with Russia was constantly on his mind.

As early as July 26, 2016, during his campaign for president, Trump woke up and tweeted, “For the record, I have ZERO investments in Russia.” He wasn’t even the Republican nominee yet.

Clinton speculated that Trump was always praising Putin “maybe because he wants to do business in Moscow, I don’t know the reasons.”

Trump quickly fired back: “I have no businesses there. I have no loans from Russia.” Clinton had not raised the question of “loans from Russia.” Trump did.

Clinton shot back, “Well, that's because he'd rather have a puppet as president of the United States.”

Trump seemed threatened by the charge. “No puppet. No puppet," he cried defensively. "You're the puppet! No, you're the puppet!”

October 25 at a rally in Tampa, Florida, Trump again denied connections to Russia:

“You know, every time Russia is brought up, they say, oh, Trump! What do I have to do with it? She always likes to tie me in with Russia.

I have nothing to do with Russia, folks. I’ll give you a written statement, I have nothing to do.

But they tie me in with Russia, all the time, they tie me into Russia, and

they say such bad things about Putin, and

then they’re supposed to negotiate with him? Why would he do this?”

Trump’s sympathy for Russian President Putin was entirely unprompted.

No one was taking Putin’s side in any possible negotiation but Trump.

On January 11, less than two weeks before he would take the oath of office, Trump woke up and tweeted at 7:31 a.m., seemingly out of the blue:

“Russia has never tried to use leverage over me. I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH RUSSIA - NO DEALS, NO LOANS, NO NOTHING!”

Trump had won the election.

No one was accusing him of having “deals” or “loans” with Russia. His tweet was entirely unprompted.

“So I tweeted out that I have no dealings with Russia. I have no deals that could happen in Russia, because we’ve stayed away. And I have no loans with Russia. As a real estate developer, I have very, very little debt. I have assets that are — and now people have found out how big the company is, I have very little debt — I have very low debt. But I have no loans with Russia at all. And I thought that was important to put out. I certified that. So I have no deals, I have no loans and I have no dealings. We could make deals in Russia very easily if we wanted to, I just don’t want to because I think that would be a conflict. So I have no loans, no dealings, and no current pending deals.”

No one but Trump brought up “debt” the Trump Organization might hold.

Again, his specific denials that he had “deals” and “loans” were unprompted.

But without being prompted by Holt, Trump continued with this lengthy denial:

“I have nothing to do with Russia.

I have no investments in Russia, none whatsoever.

I don’t have property in Russia.

A lot of people thought I owned office buildings in Moscow.

I don’t have property in Russia …

I built a great company, but I’m not involved with Russia.

I have had dealings with them over the years where I sold a house to a very wealthy Russian many years ago.

I had the Miss Universe pageant which I owned for quite a while.

I had it in Moscow a long time ago, but other than that,

I have nothing to do with Russia.”

Trump, who is known to be impatient with the daily intelligence briefing ... apparently

took the time to learn something of value from American intelligence that day.

What did he do with it? He revealed his highly classified secrets to the Russians.

Trump’s Russia denials reached an apparent apex on Monday, when he stood on the White House lawn and said several times,

"I never worked for Russia."

what hold could Putin possibly have over him?

Russia “giving money to Trump in 2008.”

“That’s how Putin does business,” McFaul went on to explain.

“He gives money to people for free, and then they collect.”

How long has it been going on?

How did it work?

Why did it begin in the first place?

Was Trump facing bankruptcy and Putin bailed him out, and now Trump owes him?

There are three big questions we don’t have answers for.

First, what is Putin’s overall aim?

We know that like every Russian leader before him, he would like to see NATO weakened, if not broken up altogether, and he’d like to see the European Union come apart at the seams.

The second question is, what will happen if Trump stops giving Putin what he wants? What will they do to him?

the third question: If Trump is actually working for Russia because Putin in effect owns him, how can he extricate himself? Better still, can he extricate himself?

When you start looking for the answers to questions like these, Trump’s lies about Russia appear in an entirely different light.

the lie we heard him utter on Monday afternoon on his way to address the farmers in New Orleans. “I never worked for Russia.”

After asking us to believe all those other lies he’s had to backtrack on, now he needs us to believe the big one to survive.

he’s afraid of what Vladimir Putin will do to him if he’s ousted.

Given Putin’s track record, I wouldn’t want to be in his shoes.

Would you?

https://www.salon.com/2019/01/16/thinking-the-unthinkable-about-donald-trump/

DMC

01-17-2019, 12:49 AM

No, I simply refused your bet.

I think bets here are stupid.

You proved it with your meaningless weasel bet.

Now it's all you want to talk about. Which is probably a good idea for you, since your FISA conspiracy is another dead end for you.

Wait... so you'll go 200 pages of bickering for days on end, posting the same exact phrase countless times (actually 99,999 at last count but that was "that guy") but bets are stupid?

:lmao

Pavlov

01-17-2019, 12:50 AM

Wait... so you'll go 200 pages of bickering for days on end, posting the same exact phrase countless times (actually 99,999 at last count but that was "that guy") but bets are stupid?

:lmaoLots of things here are stupid.

Your obsession with the personal lives and details of posters is creepy.

Pavlov’s worn chair

01-17-2019, 01:15 AM

Lots of things here are stupid.

Your obsession with the personal lives and details of posters is creepy.
Don’t let him get under your skin. I’m here for you.

Will Hunting

01-17-2019, 07:26 AM

Don’t let him get under your skin. I’m here for you.
Hi Derp.

djohn2oo8

01-17-2019, 08:48 AM

So my conspiracy theory jibes with Trump's lawyer's conspiracy theory.:tu
Rudy moving them goalposts.

djohn2oo8

01-17-2019, 08:49 AM

You are in the same page with 9/11 twoofer. Congrats
Why did Rudy change his answer from no collusion?

hater

01-17-2019, 08:51 AM

You are in the same page with 9/11 twoofer. Congrats

:lmao

hater

01-17-2019, 08:51 AM

Wait... so you'll go 200 pages of bickering for days on end, posting the same exact phrase countless times (actually 99,999 at last count but that was "that guy") but bets are stupid?

:lmao

:lol

djohn2oo8

01-17-2019, 09:21 AM

1085743546257285120

djohn2oo8

01-17-2019, 10:37 AM

1085920643034566656

TSA

01-17-2019, 12:31 PM

the djohn rule: wait 24 hours and guaranteed to be bullshit

1085935514371399680

Pavlov

01-17-2019, 12:33 PM

:lol TSA posting about "conspiracy theory culture"

hater

01-17-2019, 12:39 PM

Is Giuliani lawyer for Trump or the entire Trump Campaignteam? Just asking tbqh

boutons_deux

01-17-2019, 12:41 PM

Did Trump campaign soften platform language to benefit Russia?

Feaver said that he ultimately can’t verify from a fact-checking point of view what caused the platform to change, adding that the public has very little visibility into the policy side of Trump’s campaign.

"The shift went in the direction of Trump's public statements," he said.

"It strikes me as plausible that Trump's campaign pushed for the shift.

"I would be surprised if Trump had NOT tried to nudge the platform at least some places towards his own stances."

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/aug/04/did-trump-campaign-soften-platform-language-benefi/ (https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/aug/04/did-trump-campaign-soften-platform-language-benefi/)

I wonder if Mueller has interviewed anybody who was involved with 2016 Repug platform?

Seems like logical place to find evidence of Trash's treason

Spurminator

01-17-2019, 12:47 PM

You are in the same page with 9/11 twoofer. Congrats

Have you looked around and seen who you're on the same page with here?

Probably not a great idea to make "has a similar opinion as X poster" an attack strategy when you've got some embarrassing bedfellows yourself.

Monostradamus

01-17-2019, 12:52 PM

:lol TSA posting about "conspiracy theory culture"
:lmao

TSA

01-17-2019, 01:35 PM

boutons_deux

01-17-2019, 01:38 PM

For fucks sake how many times can they try to revive this already debunked story

as often as you defend Trash with bullshit.

I bet Mueller will debunk TSA

TSA

01-17-2019, 01:39 PM

1085885168320016387

Another one of djohn’s conspiracy theories eats shit :rollin

:lol Maddow

Pavlov

01-17-2019, 01:39 PM

For fucks sake how many times can they try to revive this already debunked storyAs many times as you revive FISA "abuse."

boutons_deux

01-17-2019, 02:12 PM

Rudy Giuliani just contradicted nearly all the Trump team’s past collusion denials

This is at least the 10th time the denials have been watered down. It might be the most significant rollback.

Wednesday night appeared to

grant the possibility that members of Trump’s campaign did, in fact, collude with the Russians

during the 2016 presidential election campaign.

he contradicted dozens of previous denials that both the Trump team (and Trump himself) have offered.

the Trump team has moved the goal posts on this question no fewer than 10 times after initially denying any contact at all with “foreign entities.”

Trump has said dozens of times that there was “no collusion,” full stop.

This appears to be the first time anyone has acknowledged the possibility that someone colluded without Trump’s knowledge.Giuliani suggested that it was possible Manafort did something wrong but that he was on the campaign for too short a time for anyone to know what he was up to.

“He was only there for six months or four months,” Giuliani said. :lol

Let’s walk through the de-evolution of the Trump team’s collusion denials — a list we’ve updated (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/05/17/rudy-giuliani-just-watered-down-trumps-russia-collusion-denial-yet-again/?utm_term=.c24917427584) below.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/01/17/rudy-giuliani-just-contradicted-nearly-all-trump-teams-past-collusion-denials/?utm_term=.0de4fdd2bb1a&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

(why was a guy connected to a Pootin-puppet even hired?)

note that almost everybody hired in Trash's mafiya were connected, communicated with Russians.

TSA

01-17-2019, 02:26 PM

As many times as you revive FISA "abuse."

Explain how something can be revived when the report from Horowitz on FISA abuse hasn't even come out.

Pavlov

01-17-2019, 02:33 PM

Explain how something can be revived when the report from Horowitz on FISA abuse hasn't even come out.Because nothing you have ever said about it points to anything resembling abuse. You've said the same thing over and over and over -- the judge wouldn't have approved a surveillance warrant if they knew who exactly funded the dossier -- and it's been proved that the judge knew everything he was required to know.

Call your shot -- what are you saying will be found by Horowitz about the FISA warrants?

Who will be penalized?

What will be the penalties?

And :lol you've thrown dirt on every single aspect of the Mueller investigation without that report's being released. How can you do that?

Explain.

TSA

01-17-2019, 02:39 PM

Because nothing you have ever said about it points to anything resembling abuse. You've said the same thing over and over and over -- the judge wouldn't have approved a surveillance warrant if they knew who exactly funded the dossier -- and it's been proved that the judge knew everything he was required to know.

Call your shot -- what are you saying will be found by Horowitz about the FISA warrants?

Who will be penalized?

What will be the penalties?

And :lol you've thrown dirt on every single aspect of the Mueller investigation without that report's being released. How can you do that?

Explain.

I haven't thrown dirt and every single aspect of the Mueller investigation. Why do you lie so much? Your other questions were answered yesterday.

spurraider21

01-17-2019, 02:41 PM

I haven't thrown dirt and every single aspect of the Mueller investigation. Why do you lie so much? Your other questions were answered yesterday.
can you point to any legal basis or authority which states that beyond informing the FISA judge of the bias or potential bias in a source, that they must identify the nature of the bias to some certain specificity which you think they haven't?

Pavlov

01-17-2019, 02:42 PM

I haven't thrown dirt and every single aspect of the Mueller investigation. Why do you lie so much?Oh, which aspects do you support?

Your other questions were answered yesterday.
:lol no they weren't. Don't be a pussy.

TSA

01-17-2019, 03:26 PM

Oh, which aspects do you support?

:lol no they weren't. Don't be a pussy.

I support the completion of the investigation and have never once called for it to be shut down. And yes your questions were already answered, you just didn’t like it so you keep asking thinking it’s going to change.

TSA

01-17-2019, 03:27 PM

can you point to any legal basis or authority which states that beyond informing the FISA judge of the bias or potential bias in a source, that they must identify the nature of the bias to some certain specificity which you think they haven't?

“We certainly consider it our obligation, because of our trust relationship with federal judges, to present evidence that would paint a materially different picture of what we're presenting,” Comey testified on Dec. 7, 2018. “You want to present to the judge reviewing your application a complete picture of the evidence, both its flaws and its strengths.”

Pavlov

01-17-2019, 03:27 PM

I support the completion of the investigation and have never once called for it to be shut down.What aspects of the investigation have you posted positively about?

List them.

And yes your questions were already answered, you just didn’t like it so you keep asking thinking it’s going to change.:lmao you backed down quick

That's not going to change.

TSA

01-17-2019, 03:35 PM

What aspects of the investigation have you posted positively about?

List them.

:lmao you backed down quick

That's not going to change.

I’m not getting in the weeds with you because you lied.

Pavlov

01-17-2019, 03:36 PM

I’m not getting in the weeds with you because you lied.You never spoke positively about any aspect of the Mueller investigation except when your conspiracy theory had Mueller working with Trump to pwn the Dems.

You know nothing is going to happen with muh Horowitz FISA abuse.

lol TSA

Spurs Homer

01-17-2019, 03:39 PM

I’m not getting in the weeds with you because you lied.

:lol:lol:lol

Hate to break it to you but here is the truth;

Trump is a russian asset and has committed crimes and the USA intel caught him -and will prosecute him and all the people that conspired to rig this election and sell out the usa -

other than ^THAT ^

100% OF THE REST OF YOUR SPERMSHIELD existence = IS THE WEEDS!

spurraider21

01-17-2019, 03:53 PM

“We certainly consider it our obligation, because of our trust relationship with federal judges, to present evidence that would paint a materially different picture of what we're presenting,” Comey testified on Dec. 7, 2018. “You want to present to the judge reviewing your application a complete picture of the evidence, both its flaws and its strengths.”
a) what comey said is binding law/regulation?

b) regardless, informing the judge that the information was paid for political opposition research aimed at discrediting candidate trump accomplishes that

Pavlov

01-17-2019, 03:57 PM

TSA still playing about the fact that names of US persons that aren't targets of the warrants are routinely left out of the warrant applications.

Or he's really that stupid.

TSA

01-17-2019, 04:00 PM

:lol:lol:lol

Hate to break it to you but here is the truth;

Trump is a russian asset and has committed crimes and the USA intel caught him -and will prosecute him and all the people that conspired to rig this election and sell out the usa -

other than ^THAT ^

100% OF THE REST OF YOUR SPERMSHIELD existence = IS THE WEEDS!

:rollin

hater

01-17-2019, 04:00 PM

a) what comey said is binding law/regulation?

b) regardless, informing the judge that the information was paid for political opposition research aimed at discrediting candidate trump accomplishes that

yeah, them adding "... and apparently Steele is full of shit and hates Trump" would have made zero difference to the judge :lmao

TSA

01-17-2019, 04:05 PM

a) what comey said is binding law/regulation?

b) regardless, informing the judge that the information was paid for political opposition research aimed at discrediting candidate trump accomplishes that

You asked for a legal basis OR authority on the subject. Would the head of the FBI not be an authority? The FBI hid evidence that would have painted a materially different picture than what they presented. The application as submitted was not a complete picture of the evidence.

spurraider21

01-17-2019, 04:14 PM

You asked for a legal basis OR authority on the subject. Would the head of the FBI not be an authority? The FBI hid evidence that would have painted a materially different picture than what they presented. The application as submitted was not a complete picture of the evidence.
every word he speaks is not binding law that defines what is or isn't FISA abuse

TSA

01-17-2019, 04:23 PM

every word he speaks is not binding law that defines what is or isn't FISA abuse

Never claimed it was binding law. Again, you asked for a legal basis OR an authority on the subject. If that isn't where you wanted the conversation headed you should have thought about that before saying it. The head of the FBI would be considered an authority on the subject.

Did the FBI hide evidence that would have painted a materially different picture than what they presented?

Was the application submitted a complete picture of the evidence?

Define what is or isn't FISA abuse.

spurraider21

01-17-2019, 04:26 PM

Never claimed it was binding law. Again, you asked for a legal basis OR an authority on the subject. If that isn't where you wanted the conversation headed you should have thought about that before saying it. The head of the FBI would be considered an authority on the subject.

Did the FBI hide evidence that would have painted a materially different picture than what they presented?

Was the application submitted a complete picture of the evidence?

Define what is or isn't FISA abuse.
i asked for legal basis or authority. authority would typically be some kind of controlling case law.

i wasn't referring to an authority figure on the subject, but looking back i certainly could have been more clear.

TSA

01-17-2019, 04:27 PM

i asked for legal basis or authority. authority would typically be some kind of controlling case law.

i wasn't referring to an authority figure on the subject, but looking back i certainly could have been more clear.

:bobo understood

spurraider21

01-17-2019, 04:29 PM

Did the FBI hide evidence that would have painted a materially different picture than what they presented?
nah, they disclosed it came from political opposition research aimed at discrediting candidate trump. that gives the judge a big red flag concerning bias.

if they said it was paid for by the DNC and/or Hillary for America, then all that would do is inform the court that it is political opposition research aimed at discrediting candidate trump, which would give the judge a big red flag concerning bias.

Was the application submitted a complete picture of the evidence?
yes, see above

Define what is or isn't FISA abuse.
tbh i dont know which code section i need to be looking for. but i think if they intentionally misled the court by withholding that the source was political opposition research aimed at discrediting candidate trump, that would be a pretty big deal.

boutons_deux

01-17-2019, 04:32 PM

https://media.giphy.com/media/NUJZKPi2CpqpO/giphy.gif

TSA

01-17-2019, 04:35 PM

nah, they disclosed it came from political opposition research aimed at discrediting candidate trump. that gives the judge a big red flag concerning bias.

if they said it was paid for by the DNC and/or Hillary for America, then all that would do is inform the court that it is political opposition research aimed at discrediting candidate trump, which would give the judge a big red flag concerning bias.

yes, see above

tbh i dont know which code section i need to be looking for. but i think if they intentionally misled the court by withholding that the source was political opposition research aimed at discrediting candidate trump, that would be a pretty big deal.

guess we'll just agree to disagree on the importance of disclosing who funded the dossier that was essential to securing the FISA warrant.

spurraider21

01-17-2019, 04:36 PM

guess we'll just agree to disagree on the importance of disclosing who funded the dossier that was essential to securing the FISA warrant.
the end result of disclosing the name would be to alert the judge to bias which would then be considered when deciding to rely on that information or not. they accomplished that.

boutons_deux

01-17-2019, 04:55 PM

guess we'll just agree to disagree on the importance of disclosing who funded the dossier that was essential to securing the FISA warrant.

doesn't making ANY FUCKING difference who funded the Steele dossier that was used by FBI as leads, as tipoffs, to pursue crimes.

Pavlov

01-17-2019, 05:13 PM

guess we'll just agree to disagree on the importance of disclosing who funded the dossier that was essential to securing the FISA warrant.Yeah, you'll have to find a precedent or black letter statute or regulation regarding FISA warrants requiring that kind of specific disclosure.

Not one person has.

That's all.

And I'll have to ask you again since I don't think you know -- what are the requirements for renewing a FISA warrant?

TSA

01-17-2019, 05:46 PM

1085997104399564800

The former partners tossed the former Obama White House counsel right under the fucking bus and then ran him over multiple times :rollin

Pavlov

01-17-2019, 05:51 PM

1085997104399564800

The former partners tossed the former Obama White House counsel right under the fucking bus and then ran him over multiple times :rollinOh, that report they wrote with Trump's campaign manager?:rollin

boutons_deux

01-17-2019, 06:29 PM

Trump Russia affair: Key questions answered

https://ichef-bbci-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/i/s/ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/695/cpsprodpb/3655/production/_104890931_trump_rusia_investigation_v4_640-nc.png

https://www-bbc-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-42493918?usqp=mq331AQCCAE%3D&fbclid=IwAR3zOihMoUvStSGPfHSerYBOIHwkCyg-jc0eUuKIqKJMII9D8Csf0-pRWBM&amp_js_v=0.1#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.com%2Fnews%2Fworld-us-canada-42493918

boutons_deux

01-17-2019, 10:55 PM

Dan Abrams: This Has Been ‘The Worst 48 Hours For Trump So Far’ in the Russia Probe

“I’m going to make a big statement here,” said Mediaite founder Dan Abrams on SiriusXM Thursday.

“I think that what we have learned from the Trump team in the past 48 hours has [resulted in] the worst 48 hours for Trump so far,”

citing the trifecta of

disclosure from Rudy Giuliani on CNN that he “never said” that members of the Trump campaign didn’t collude with Russia,

a conversation in which Trump denied Russian election interference to New York Times reporter (which, as Abrams notes, completely flies in the face of the charges spelled out in the two indictments of the alleged Russian conspirators) , and

Michael Cohen fingering Trump in a reported attempt to rig major online public opinion polls.

Abrams pointed out that Giuliani now might be trying to distance himself from the “campaign”

these issues go to the heart of Russian efforts to interfere in the election and whether members of the Trump campaign were involved:

“When you’re talking about rigging polls and collusion with Russia . . .

these three stories together are bad news for President Trump,”

https://www.mediaite.com/online/dan-abrams-this-has-been-the-worst-48-hours-for-trump-so-far-in-the-russia-probe/

Chris

01-18-2019, 03:54 PM

https://twitter.com/KimStrassel/status/1086073370452451334

Pavlov

01-18-2019, 04:11 PM

https://twitter.com/KimStrassel/status/1086073370452451334Strassel has a credibility problem after the Flynn sentencing.

Chris

01-18-2019, 06:04 PM

https://twitter.com/suzydymna/status/1086373946243588098

koriwhat

01-18-2019, 06:09 PM

https://twitter.com/suzydymna/status/1086373946243588098

lmao

ps: we also have an interest in a strong pres not a weak one like obama was.

Pavlov

01-18-2019, 06:25 PM

https://twitter.com/suzydymna/status/1086373946243588098What is this supposed to mean, Chris?

Chris

01-18-2019, 06:33 PM

What is this supposed to mean, Chris?

Tell me what you think it means, then I can help you form an opinion about it.

Pavlov

01-18-2019, 06:36 PM

Tell me what you think it means, then I can help you form an opinion about it.I have no idea what it means; that's why I asked you.

So what does it mean?

Chris

01-18-2019, 06:38 PM

I have no idea what it means; that's why I asked you.

So what does it mean?

Obama said "America, and the world, and Europe...has an interest in a strong Russia".

Winehole23

01-18-2019, 06:39 PM

Chris playing coy with his own take, hiding behind RTs and attempted witticisms.

Weak!

Pavlov

01-18-2019, 06:41 PM

Obama said "America, and the world, and Europe...has an interest in a strong Russia".Why did you lie about what he said, Chris?

Explain.

koriwhat

01-18-2019, 06:42 PM

https://twitter.com/KimStrassel/status/1086073370452451334

brucey boy embodies what a bitch really is. then you got his dipshit wife playing us all behind fusiongps.

Chris

01-18-2019, 06:45 PM

brucey boy embodies what a bitch really is. then you got his dipshit wife playing us all behind fusiongps.

Pretty sure his wife was the one who wrote the majority of the dossier without looking at my sources.

Winehole23

01-18-2019, 06:45 PM

Why did you lie about what he said, Chris?

Explain.lol

that's why Chris hides. his own takes get torched.

Chris

01-18-2019, 07:05 PM

Why did you lie about what he said, Chris?

Explain.

Were you able to form an opinion yet, or did you need some more information?

Pavlov

01-18-2019, 07:42 PM

Were you able to form an opinion yet, or did you need some more information?I saw that you lied about what he said, so that is more interesting than anything else at this point.

Why did you lie about what he said?

TSA

01-18-2019, 07:48 PM

:lol Pavlov knows a thing or two about lying

Pavlov

01-18-2019, 07:49 PM

:lol Pavlov knows a thing or two about lying:lol So does TSA

Chris

01-18-2019, 08:43 PM

I didn't lie about anything.

ElNono

01-18-2019, 09:01 PM

I didn't lie about anything.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DuWMxRDWwAAF6I2.jpg:large

spurraider21

01-18-2019, 09:07 PM

I didn't lie about anything.

Obama said "America, and the world, and Europe...has an interest in a strong Russia".

Chris

01-18-2019, 10:53 PM

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https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1086428455598809095
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1086430940774174720
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https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1086445811721007104

ElNono

01-18-2019, 10:56 PM

:lmao back to posting walls of tweets nobody reads... good puppet...

hater

01-18-2019, 10:58 PM

:lol Chris

Chris

01-18-2019, 11:03 PM

It's a really good read and I don't mind sharing it.

boutons_deux

01-18-2019, 11:48 PM

Bill Maher brutally mocks Trump-Putin bromance: ‘Forget collusion I want to know if there’s penetration’

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/hbos-bill-maher-brutally-mocks-trump-putin-bromance-forget-collusion-want-know-theres-penetration/

boutons_deux

01-18-2019, 11:51 PM

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/50059427_2529105920515780_7758608246968942592_n.jp g?_nc_cat=1&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=f18bc659432f750fe7f9f19e2d9e623e&oe=5CD267FA

TSA

01-19-2019, 01:13 PM

spurraider21

01-19-2019, 02:27 PM

I remember all these long threads about Flynn’s guilty plea tbh :lol

Pavlov

01-19-2019, 02:27 PM

:lol King Spook

boutons_deux

01-20-2019, 03:28 PM

‘Worst lawyer in the history of mankind’: Giuliani mocked on MSNBC for incoherent Sunday interviews

Watching clips of Rudy Giuliani’s bumbling and “insane (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/kellyanne-conways-husband-ridicules-giuliani-claim-perfectly-normal-trump-speak-cohen-false-testimony/)” performances on both NBC and CNN on Sunday morning,

the entire panel on AM Joy was beside themselves with laughter and

disbelief that he was once a respected U.S. attorney.

“Every week, Rudy Giuliani gets on national TV and confesses another crime.”

“I expect him in two weeks to say ‘Trump is guilty of everything’,”

“I don’t understand a lawyer, a former prosecutor gets on TV and says these [things].”

“If there is a trial on all of this, I think the whole day of the trial will be jurors watching old Rudy Giuliani’s tapes and clips. It is just astounding what has happened to Rudy Giuliani, so it is kind of a shame what’s happening.”

“It is almost like, did Rudy talk to Donald Trump at all?” he asked with a smirk.

“This has got to be the worst lawyer in the history of mankind.

He should be disbarred for being such a terrible lawyer.

Every time he goes on television, he contradicts himself —

and not what he said a week ago —

in the same conversation he’ll contradict himself.

It’s insane.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/worst-lawyer-history-mankind-giuliani-mocked-msnbc-incoherent-sunday-interviews/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

boutons_deux

01-20-2019, 05:22 PM

Giuliani Confirms Trump Impeachable Offense With Cohen False Testimony

Giuliani’s statements confirm that Trump knew that

Michael Cohen to Congress which is an impeachable offense for failure to execute the laws of the United States.

“It matters this way.

It backs up the general impression and

he did nothing about it.

When we know he went in and lied —

I’m sorry, that Cohen went into the Congress and

he lied when he did that the president knew he was lying.

That is a failure to faithfully execute the laws and

will eventually come back around in any impeachment proceedings.”

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/01/20/giuliani-confirms-trump-impeachable-offense-with-cohen-false-testimony.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

boutons_deux

01-20-2019, 05:30 PM

President admits Trump Tower Moscow deal was ‘going from the day I announced to the day I won’

Trump told his lawyer Rudy Giuliani that he “may” have spoken to Michael Cohen before his Congressional testimony but doesn’t recall what was said.

Phone logs or records could probably jog the president’s memory,

but it doesn’t seem the White House has yet consulted those.

Cohen lied to Congress about whether (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/michael-cohens-got-receipts-moscow-trump-tower-evidence-damning-ever/) there was a Trump Tower, Moscow deal.

Giuliani denied that there was a deal.

When he acknowledged there were talks about it,

Giuliani said that there was never a signed letter of intent or anything official.

When the signed letter of intent was revealed,

Giuliani pivoted to change Trump’s story again.

Trump previously said that there was no deal.

His take then evolved to say that

there was a deal and everyone knew about it (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/12/03/president-trumps-misleading-statements-trump-tower-moscow-timeline/).

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/president-admits-trump-tower-moscow-deal-going-day-announced-day-won-report/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

boutons_deux

01-20-2019, 05:39 PM

Kellyanne Conway’s Husband Calls Out Giuliani for ‘Perfectly Insane’ Claim About Cohen Testimony

Conservative attorney George Conway, husband of high-ranking Trump adviser Kellyanne Conway,

voiced shock at a new claim by the president’s personal lawyer

Rudy Giuliani. Giuliani suggested that it would have been “perfectly normal” had the POTUS discussed congressional testimony with Michael Cohen.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1783627578/image_normal.jpg (https://twitter.com/gtconway3d)George Conway@gtconway3d
(https://twitter.com/gtconway3d)
(https://twitter.com/gtconway3d)“Perfectly normal?”

It’s perfectly insane for witnesses in or subjects of a criminal investigation to be discussing testimony.

10:37 AM - Jan 20, 2019 (https://twitter.com/gtconway3d/status/1087026267902349313) · Washington, DC (https://twitter.com/search?q=place%3A01fbe706f872cb32)

https://lawandcrime.com/politics/kellyanne-conways-husband-calls-out-giuliani-for-perfectly-insane-claim-about-cohen-testimony/

boutons_deux

01-22-2019, 09:54 AM

Deripaska and Allies Could Benefit From Sanctions Deal, Document Shows

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/01/22/us/22dc-deripaska1/22dc-deripaska1-jumbo.jpg?quality=90&auto=webp

When the Trump administration announced last month that it was lifting sanctions against a trio of companies controlled by an influential Russian oligarch,

it cast the move as tough on Russia and on the oligarch,

arguing that he had to make painful concessions to get the sanctions lifted.

the agreement the administration negotiated with the companies controlled by the oligarch, Oleg V. Deripaska, may have been

less punitive than advertised.

provisions that free him from hundreds of millions of dollars in debt :lol SO TOUGH!

while leaving him and his allies with majority ownership of his most important company, :lol SO PAINFUL!

Democratic hopes of blocking the administration’s decision have been stifled by the Republican-controlled Senate (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/16/us/politics/senate-trump-russia-sanctions.html?module=inline).

sanctions were in retaliation for “a range of malign activity around the globe” by Russia,

the goal (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-30/mnuchin-says-u-s-doesn-t-seek-to-put-rusal-out-of-business) of the sanctions was “to change the behavior” of Mr. Deripaska, and “not to put Rusal out of business,” given the company’s pivotal role as a global supplier of aluminum.

the sanctions relief deal will allow Mr. Deripaska to wipe out potentially hundreds of millions of dollars in debt by transferring some of his shares to VTB,

a Russian government-owned bank under limited United States sanctions that had lent him large sums of money.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/21/us/politics/oleg-deripaska-russian-sanctions.html?ncid=newsltushpmgnews__TheMorningEm ail__012219

boutons_deux

01-22-2019, 09:59 AM

New evidence of Trump giving a Russian oligarch a sweetheart deal builds the case for quid pro quo

One of the central questions of the ongoing Russia investigations is: Did Trump and his team agree to give anything in return and then deliver on the promises in office?

There remain strong arguments that Trump has, in fact, delivered on his end of a potential quid pro quo (https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/russia-finally-getting-its-moneys-worth-trumps-latest-kremlin-gift-basket).

shares of two of Deripaska’s companies spiked after the deal was announced — a significant gift to the oligarch and, by extension, Putin.

Deripaska also plays a notable role in the Russia investigation.

Paul Manafort, Trump’s convicted former campaign manager was reportedly deep in debt to Deripaska, a long-time business associate of his, in 2016 — and

he was reportedly in contact with intermediaries in the run up to the election (https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/29/politics/russian-former-spy-paul-manafort-trump-campaign/index.html).

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/new-evidence-trump-giving-russian-oligarch-sweetheart-deal-builds-case-quid-pro-quo/

Looks like Trash clearing Derip's debts is paying for Manafort's $17M to Derip, so now Trash expects PM to stopping helping Mueller?