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Chris
03-23-2019, 04:48 PM
https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1109447067775238145

Spurs Homer
03-23-2019, 05:02 PM
Well

the traitor side -

seems to be really interested in posting and re-posting propaganda - maybe their guilt at supporting a criminal traitor?

Seems like the Dems are at least hoping for justice to be done.

Chris
03-23-2019, 06:31 PM
https://twitter.com/billmaher/status/1109348853193441280

Spurs Homer
03-23-2019, 09:41 PM
https://twitter.com/billmaher/status/1109348853193441280

Pretty much.

Anyone with a TV saw the Helsinki treason!

Spurs Homer
03-24-2019, 02:50 PM
We will have to wait for months or years now until we find out how much barr covered up.

russia wins.
trump criminal remains above the law

congress will fail to impeach now

congrats to all trump defenders

you get to keep a criminal president
you destroyed the constitution

and the rule of law

amerikkka

Reck
03-24-2019, 02:54 PM
We will have to wait for months or years now until we find out how much barr covered up.

russia wins.
trump criminal remains above the law

congress will fail to impeach now

congrats to all trump defenders

you get to keep a criminal president
you destroyed the constitution

and the rule of law

amerikkka

You're being a sore loser. This is coming from Mueller.

Just admit defeat in the fact there wasn't enough evidence to point to Trump's guilt. The summary says it did not find evidence nor does the report exonerate him. Just vote in 2020.

boutons_deux
03-24-2019, 02:56 PM
Pretty much.

Anyone with a TV saw the Helsinki treason!

He recently tweeted that the June '16 meeting was to get dirt from the Russians on Hillary, after he dictated a letter for DJTjr that it was about adoptions.

All the stuff we know from him and other public stuff is enough to impeach. Mueller has much more and/or full proof/evidence of what we already know.

Why have Trash and his mafiya "forgotten", lied, obstructed for 2 years?

Spurs Homer
03-24-2019, 03:03 PM
You're being a sore loser. This is coming from Mueller.

Just admit defeat in the fact there wasn't enough evidence to point to Trump's guilt. The summary says it did not find evidence nor does the report exonerate him. Just vote in 2020.

i disagree- this is not being a sore loser
this is

barr & rosenstein’s interpretation

i congratulate all trump defenders because

for now

they win.

in the future we will see how corrupt barr is because these are not muellers words until he testifies before the world.

they win this battle


the war is still going to be fought

boutons_deux
03-24-2019, 03:17 PM
whitewash

Mueller Finds No Trump Collusion; Barr Sees No Obstruction Case

https://www.mysanantonio.com/business/article/Mueller-Found-No-Russia-Collusion-Obstruction-13712753.php?utm_campaign=mysa_breakingnews_201903 24&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email

boutons_deux
03-24-2019, 03:26 PM
no surprise that Barr sucks Trash's metaphorical dick. Refer to the memo he submitted, got him the AG job

Bill Barr’s ‘troubling and bizarre’ letter ‘raises many questions’: Former federal prosecutor

there is still a great deal that Americans still don’t know.

Mariotti explained that Attorney General Bill Barr’s letter “raises many questions and is *not* the full report. But it does tell us many things that are very important.”

His first example was that it outlined the unbelievable information processed by the investigation. Mueller issued 2,800 subpoenas and interviewed 500 witnesses.

“That is an amazing amount of work to complete in under two years, and it suggests that he thoroughly investigated these matters, even though there appear to be many remaining issues that he handed off to other components of the Justice Department,”

You may be asking yourself — What about all of the evidence showing links between the Trump campaign and Russia?”

Mariotti continued.

“Links in themselves do not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that someone knowingly joined a conspiracy with the intent to further that conspiracy.

I cannot speak as to ‘coordination,’

which is not a criminal law term (it’s a counterintelligence concept) but

there was no publicly available evidence that proved a conspiracy.

Delivering internal polling data to a Russian operative, while shady, is not itself a crime.”

he anticipates when lawmakers dig into the Mueller report, evidence will appear “less conclusive” than what is being presented today.

one thing that prosecutors always do is reach a conclusion, one way or another.

And that makes the other piece of Barr’s letter very troubling and bizarre. He said that

Mueller ‘did not draw a conclusion–one way or another’ regarding whether Trump obstructed justice.”

“I’ve long said it is likely Mueller *would* conclude Trump obstructed justice, because of Trump’s many statements and actions,”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/03/bill-barrs-troubling-bizarre-letter-raises-many-questions-former-federal-prosecutor/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/03/bill-barrs-troubling-bizarre-letter-raises-many-questions-former-federal-prosecutor/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)

Spurs Homer
03-24-2019, 04:05 PM
no surprise that Barr sucks Trash's metaphorical dick. Refer to the memo he submitted, got him the AG job

Bill Barr’s ‘troubling and bizarre’ letter ‘raises many questions’: Former federal prosecutor

there is still a great deal that Americans still don’t know.

Mariotti explained that Attorney General Bill Barr’s letter “raises many questions and is *not* the full report. But it does tell us many things that are very important.”

His first example was that it outlined the unbelievable information processed by the investigation. Mueller issued 2,800 subpoenas and interviewed 500 witnesses.

“That is an amazing amount of work to complete in under two years, and it suggests that he thoroughly investigated these matters, even though there appear to be many remaining issues that he handed off to other components of the Justice Department,”

You may be asking yourself — What about all of the evidence showing links between the Trump campaign and Russia?”

Mariotti continued.

“Links in themselves do not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that someone knowingly joined a conspiracy with the intent to further that conspiracy.

I cannot speak as to ‘coordination,’

which is not a criminal law term (it’s a counterintelligence concept) but

there was no publicly available evidence that proved a conspiracy.

Delivering internal polling data to a Russian operative, while shady, is not itself a crime.”

he anticipates when lawmakers dig into the Mueller report, evidence will appear “less conclusive” than what is being presented today.

one thing that prosecutors always do is reach a conclusion, one way or another.

And that makes the other piece of Barr’s letter very troubling and bizarre. He said that

Mueller ‘did not draw a conclusion–one way or another’ regarding whether Trump obstructed justice.”

“I’ve long said it is likely Mueller *would* conclude Trump obstructed justice, because of Trump’s many statements and actions,”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/03/bill-barrs-troubling-bizarre-letter-raises-many-questions-former-federal-prosecutor/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/03/bill-barrs-troubling-bizarre-letter-raises-many-questions-former-federal-prosecutor/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)




now we must wait again

until another ordeal of uncovering the facts of this cover up

Spurs Homer
03-24-2019, 04:27 PM
So, is Mueller not a criminal now?

LOL at the media taking Barr's letter as gospel.

Had this been against a Dem - the entire right wing/trumpturd/Fox news machine would be attacking the FBI,Special Counsel, AG, etc...

They would be howling about FISA's, court docs, et al

Now - trump has ANOTHER head start until the facts are uncovered - to SPIN again and act as if he wasn't guilty until he found henchmen to cover his crimes.

If you think we still have a Democracy - you are sadly mistaken.

Winehole23
03-24-2019, 05:23 PM
Let the lit crit begin. Again.

Chris
03-24-2019, 05:56 PM
https://twitter.com/Comey/status/1109930531389472768
TSA :lmao :lmao :lmao

DMC
03-24-2019, 09:50 PM
This reminds me of the Whitewater shit, the Starr report and a host of other investigations that didn't do shit in the end because they are just placating the public.

I called this shit

DMC
03-24-2019, 09:52 PM
Let the lit crit begin. Again.

Just one post from you? I figured you'd have at least a dozen daisy chained posts with scattered brain droppings and such, with the obligatory big word now and again that you rub one off to.

AaronY
03-24-2019, 09:53 PM
I called this shit
A lot of us did its no big deal. Pretty obvious this whole thing would be a waste of time.

DMC
03-24-2019, 10:01 PM
A lot of us did its no big deal. Pretty obvious this whole thing would be a waste of time.

Of course, nary a dissenting voice now. Almost 1600 pages of everyone in agreement of the outcome.

Winehole23
03-24-2019, 10:04 PM
Just one post from you? I figured you'd have at least a dozen daisy chained posts with scattered brain droppings and such, with the obligatory big word now and again that you rub one off to.Yeah, well, you were wrong.

DarrinS
03-24-2019, 10:05 PM
Amber alert for djohn. Poor fella.

Winehole23
03-24-2019, 10:08 PM
Had a gig this afternoon, then dinner with my sweetie.

Now we're gonna watch a movie.

Day well spent. Hope you enjoyed lording it over the retards who had high hopes from the investigation -- I didn't. Still don't.

AaronY
03-24-2019, 10:11 PM
Of course, nary a dissenting voice now. Almost 1600 pages of everyone in agreement of the outcome.
Not in my fucking posts.

DMC
03-24-2019, 10:11 PM
Had a gig this afternoon, then dinner with my sweetie.

Now we're gonna watch a movie.

Day well spent. Hope you enjoyed lording it over the retards who had high hopes from the investigation -- I didn't. Still don't.

It's funny how heavy the bandwagon is getting.

AaronY
03-24-2019, 10:12 PM
They wouldn't have had votes to impeach anyway even if they had something. Was a gigantic pipe dream and waste of time all around

DMC
03-24-2019, 10:16 PM
Not in my fucking posts.

Wasn't aimed at you. I'm well aware of your position.

AaronY
03-24-2019, 10:16 PM
There was plenty of dissenting posts from Republicans anyway but not many democrats which is a shame but even worse now is that djohn and RandomGuy (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1813) have to deal with getting rightfully dunked on by the likes of Chris (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1656) and hater (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7609).

sad fate bros..sad fate. I'd probably rather be dead tbh

DMC
03-24-2019, 10:18 PM
Don't forget Kyle Griffith.

AaronY
03-24-2019, 10:19 PM
Don't forget Kyle Griffith.
lmao. forgot about him. Not a good day for his career for sure

DarrinS
03-24-2019, 10:21 PM
There was plenty of dissenting posts from Republicans anyway but not many democrats which is a shame but even worse now is that djohn and RandomGuy (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1813) have to deal with getting rightfully dunked on by the likes of Chris (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1656) and hater (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7609).

sad fate bros..sad fate. I'd probably rather be dead tbh


Damn. That was savage AF, but I still laughed. :lol

DMC
03-24-2019, 10:24 PM
lmao. forgot about him. Not a good day for his career for sure

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1

He's melting down.

DarrinS
03-24-2019, 10:27 PM
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1

He's melting down.


I can't look at that garbage, tbh.

DMC
03-24-2019, 10:28 PM
I can't look at that garbage, tbh.

Doesn't matter, darkJohn will post it all as soon as he feels there's a victory lap ahead and he comes out of the cellar.

Winehole23
03-25-2019, 09:11 AM
It's funny how heavy the bandwagon is getting.There sure were a lot of people spiking the football yesterday.

Don't see much of a bandwagon for my consistently held opinion that the Mueller investigation wouldn't end in indictments, and would be a political blind alley for the Dems. Then, now or at any time.

RandomGuy
03-25-2019, 10:34 AM
There sure were a lot of people spiking the football yesterday.

Don't see much of a bandwagon for my consistently held opinion that the Mueller investigation wouldn't end in indictments, and would be a political blind alley for the Dems. Then, now or at any time.

The simple datasharing that allowed the Russians to target their media efforts really wasn't illegal. That is part of the problem.

Winehole23
03-25-2019, 11:45 AM
The simple datasharing that allowed the Russians to target their media efforts really wasn't illegal. That is part of the problem.Part of the problem was a constant drumbeat of news hype that created the impression that DJT had a deal with the Russians to help him and that it was the difference in the election.

Neither of those propositions was ever going to be easy to prove.

At this point you pretty much have to concede that, having been properly investigated, neither of these things is provable to a legal certainty.

I don't hear many people expressing their relief; it should be relieving.

TSA
03-25-2019, 11:49 AM
Part of the problem was a constant drumbeat of news hype that created the impression that DJT had a deal with the Russians to help him and that it was the difference in the election.

Neither of those propositions was ever going to be easy to prove.

At this point you pretty much have to concede that, having been properly investigated, neither of these things is provable to a legal certainty.

I don't hear many people expressing their relief; it should be relieving.

I pointed this out the other day and it still stands. Instead of being relieved the President was not colluding with Russia to cheat the election Dems just want to investigate more.

Pavlov
03-25-2019, 11:50 AM
Part of the problem was a constant drumbeat of news hype that created the impression that DJT had a deal with the Russians to help him and that it was the difference in the election.

Neither of those propositions was ever going to be easy to prove.

At this point you pretty much have to concede that, having been properly investigated, neither of these things is provable to a legal certainty.

I don't hear many people expressing their relief; it should be relieving.It's good to know.

There are plenty of other things to investigate now.

AaronY
03-25-2019, 11:50 AM
The simple datasharing that allowed the Russians to target their media efforts really wasn't illegal. That is part of the problem.
yeah, thats what went wrong here

Winehole23
03-25-2019, 11:55 AM
It's good to know.

There are plenty of other things to investigate now.Some of them are being investigated in NY.

What else do you have in mind?

Winehole23
03-25-2019, 11:57 AM
I pointed this out the other day and it still stands. Instead of being relieved the President was not colluding with Russia to cheat the election Dems just want to investigate more.DJT was a historically unpopular candidate, he has been a historically unpopular president so far.

For the most part, he's earned it.

The most obviously crooked POTUS since Clinton, one of the most corrupt ever, tbh.

TSA
03-25-2019, 11:58 AM
Part of the problem was a constant drumbeat of news hype that created the impression that DJT had a deal with the Russians to help him and that it was the difference in the election.

Neither of those propositions was ever going to be easy to prove.

At this point you pretty much have to concede that, having been properly investigated, neither of these things is provable to a legal certainty.

I don't hear many people expressing their relief; it should be relieving.
One example out of thousands. The media worked in concert with anti-Trump intelligence officials to push a narrative they knew to be false.

1110010116361932800

DMC
03-25-2019, 11:59 AM
yeah, thats what went wrong here

Obviously the problems are the electoral college and data sharing.

The result? Dems lost. Whatever gets dems elected is the morally right thing to do.

TSA
03-25-2019, 12:00 PM
DJT was a historically unpopular candidate, he hasbeen a historically unpopular president so far.

For the most part, he's earned it.

And how much of his unpopularity could be attributed to 3 years of the MSM telling people he colluded with Russia, committed treason, and was a traitor?

Winehole23
03-25-2019, 12:00 PM
One example out of thousands. The media worked in concert with anti-Trump intelligence officials to push a narrative they knew to be false.What high officials and former high officials say is newsworthy, just look at Fox working in concert with Trump to advance his narratives.

Winehole23
03-25-2019, 12:01 PM
And how much of his unpopularity could be attributed to 3 years of the MSM telling people he colluded with Russia, committed treason, and was a traitor?If you look at the polling, he's been around 40-45 percent approval the whole way

Winehole23
03-25-2019, 12:04 PM
Obviously the problems are the electoral college and data sharing.

The result? Dems lost. Whatever gets dems elected is the morally right thing to do.The GOP and all the fake libertarian, independent voters ITT backing Trump no matter what couldn't be a better demonstration of this principle.

TSA
03-25-2019, 12:05 PM
If you look at the polling, he's been around 40-45 percent approval the whole way

And he's been under the cloud of collusion since before he took office. What do you think his approval rating would be if the fake cloud of Russian collusion never existed?

Winehole23
03-25-2019, 12:08 PM
And he's been under the cloud of collusion since before he took office. What do you think his approval rating would be if the fake cloud of Russian collusion never existed?About the same.

He's a very unpleasant man who has done very little good for ordinary Americans and has taken no pains to be conciliatory toward anyone who didn't vote for him or who merely disagrees.

Pavlov
03-25-2019, 12:16 PM
And he's been under the cloud of collusion since before he took office. What do you think his approval rating would be if the fake cloud of Russian collusion never existed?You couldn't even say you approved of his job performance when I directly asked you the question used in the poll.:lol

Winehole23
03-25-2019, 12:18 PM
what would you like to see investigated now, Pavlov?

Pavlov
03-25-2019, 12:23 PM
what would you like to see investigated now, Pavlov?I'm cool with the SDNY and state investigations, thanks.

I'd also like some finality on the emoluments issue.

Winehole23
03-25-2019, 12:33 PM
It'd be nice to think the prescription against presidential self-dealing was something stronger than just a norm.

we'll see, i guess.

Pavlov
03-25-2019, 12:36 PM
It'd be nice to think the prescription against presidential self-dealing was something stronger than just a norm.

we'll see, i guess.Carter had to sell his peanut farm for chrissakes.

Winehole23
03-25-2019, 12:36 PM
Carter had to sell his peanut farm for chrissakes.Nearly bankrupted him.

boutons_deux
03-25-2019, 01:22 PM
Mitch McConnell disagrees with Trump on Russian election meddling

In statement, Senate leader decries Russia's "significant threat." That's not what the president has been saying.

After years of deflecting and downplaying the notion that Russia interfered in an American presidential election,

Senate Majority Leader Mitch

McConnell (R-KY) announced on Sunday that Russia poses a “significant threat to American interests.”

McConnell acknowledged what all U.S. intelligence agencies have been saying for several years

only after Attorney General William Barr reported that

Russia had, according to special counsel Robert Mueller, interfered in the 2016 presidential race.

McConnell’s statement represents a significant departure from the president,

McConnell also tried to stonewall investigations into Russian attempts to meddle in the 2016 election,

including Russian outreach efforts to help the Trump campaign.

(2016) Obama wanted to issue a bipartisan statement calling out Russian interference,

McConnell refused,

“Russia’s ongoing efforts to interfere with our democracy are dangerous and disturbing, and

I welcome the Special Counsel’s

contributions to our efforts :lol :lol

to understand better Russia’s activities in this regard,” McConnell said.

https://thinkprogress.org/mcconnell-finally-decides-that-russian-interference-is-a-bad-thing-8465d1c6fcd4/ (https://thinkprogress.org/mcconnell-finally-decides-that-russian-interference-is-a-bad-thing-8465d1c6fcd4/)

dirty Bitch McC knew Russians were meddling and meddling for the Trash and the Repugs.

And he knows Pootin meddled in the 2018 elections FOR the Repugs, and will do it again in 2020.

McC very probably will do nothing about Russia's "significant threat" as long as the Pootin is pro-Repug

TSA
03-25-2019, 01:33 PM
Lol didn’t you bet $2000 that the Trump family is going to prison?



and yes I did. I am not changing the bet.

Where did djohn2oo8 go? I'm here to collect a debt.

boutons_deux
03-25-2019, 01:39 PM
the dickless dictator ordering the ocean tide to be halted

Trump Has Demanded That His Media Critics Be Fired

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/03/25/trump-has-demanded-that-his-media-critics-be-fired.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29 (https://www.politicususa.com/2019/03/25/trump-has-demanded-that-his-media-critics-be-fired.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29)

spurraider21
03-25-2019, 01:58 PM
imo there was enough smoke to justify investigation. law enforcement investigates things all the time that dont end up leading to arrests and convictions. trump firing comey when he did "because of the russia thing" was an easy red flag and a poor strategic decision. people lying to investigators during interviews will naturally arouse suspicion. stories changing about "the meeting" will arouse suspicion. the investigation played its course and findings have been submitted to the DOJ. that's how it's supposed to work. i'd still rather have the report disclosed than go off the summary we have. not that i have any reason to believe the summary is misleading or a distortion of the truth.

djohn/spurshomer gave me a ton of shit because i kept saying we should wait for the evidence/findings, when they wanted trump in the clink years ago. tsa/chris gave me shit because i didnt think it was a witchhunt that needs to be stopped because of prosecutorial abuses.

foreign interference in our elections should be an ongoing concern (BUT WE DO IT TO doesn't mean that we, as citizens, shouldn't be concerned about it happening to us). that an adversarial (relatively) foreign entity actively supported the election of a particular candidate and orchestrated efforts to get him elected is troubling, regardless of whether that candidate was aware of or engaged in those efforts. it's obviously relieving that trump wasn't actively working with foreign adversaries, though its still not sunshine and rainbows as people in his campaign seemingly wanted to (trump jr, stone).

mueller played things by the book. the "'partisan witch hunt" stuff should be put to rest. as far as i'm aware, mueller's team didnt indict anybody who was later acquitted or had their case dismissed. stone's is pending.

i'm also not buying the crocodile tears of "WHY ARENT YOU ALL PLEASED ABOUT THE RESULTS" from the same crowd who was cheerleading for concord management to have their case dismissed... because mueller bad

spurraider21
03-25-2019, 02:02 PM
and yes, schiff and lieu deserve a ton of egg on their faces, for making bold, conclusory statements along the way while the investigation was pending. i criticized all the stupid articles of impeachment stuff that we kept hearing about, including the one introduced by brad sherman, my own representative who i've voted for on multiple occasions

that said, its not as though nunes et al have been vindicated, because they were crying foul play all along. there's no indication of that yet, and wont be until OIG releases its report on alleged fisa abuse. being cleared of criminal charges after a thorough investigation is very different than discrediting the investigation itself as a sham

TSA
03-25-2019, 02:23 PM
imo there was enough smoke to justify investigation. law enforcement investigates things all the time that dont end up leading to arrests and convictions. trump firing comey when he did "because of the russia thing" was an easy red flag and a poor strategic decision. people lying to investigators during interviews will naturally arouse suspicion. stories changing about "the meeting" will arouse suspicion. the investigation played its course and findings have been submitted to the DOJ. that's how it's supposed to work. i'd still rather have the report disclosed than go off the summary we have. not that i have any reason to believe the summary is misleading or a distortion of the truth.

djohn/spurshomer gave me a ton of shit because i kept saying we should wait for the evidence/findings, when they wanted trump in the clink years ago. tsa/chris gave me shit because i didnt think it was a witchhunt that needs to be stopped because of prosecutorial abuses.

foreign interference in our elections should be an ongoing concern (BUT WE DO IT TO doesn't mean that we, as citizens, shouldn't be concerned about it happening to us). that an adversarial (relatively) foreign entity actively supported the election of a particular candidate and orchestrated efforts to get him elected is troubling, regardless of whether that candidate was aware of or engaged in those efforts. it's obviously relieving that trump wasn't actively working with foreign adversaries, though its still not sunshine and rainbows as people in his campaign seemingly wanted to (trump jr, stone).

mueller played things by the book. the "'partisan witch hunt" stuff should be put to rest. as far as i'm aware, mueller's team didnt indict anybody who was later acquitted or had their case dismissed. stone's is pending.

i'm also not buying the crocodile tears of "WHY ARENT YOU ALL PLEASED ABOUT THE RESULTS" from the same crowd who was cheerleading for concord management to have their case dismissed... because mueller bad

What smoke justified the Russian collusion investigation?

boutons_deux
03-25-2019, 02:23 PM
Lindsey Graham Says He Told John McCain to Give Steele Dossier to FBI: He ‘Acted Appropriately’

https://www.mediaite.com/online/lindsey-graham-says-he-told-john-mccain-to-give-steele-dossier-to-fbi-he-acted-appropriately/

TSA
03-25-2019, 02:24 PM
1110221133624864775

Trump’s not letting this one go :lol
Fuck be upon those who pushed this bullshit narrative

Pavlov
03-25-2019, 02:27 PM
What smoke justified the Russian collusion investigation?The Republican candidate's campaign manager, son and son in law attempted to collude with Russia.

What more do you need?

Pavlov
03-25-2019, 02:27 PM
1110221133624864775

Trump’s not letting this one go :lol
Fuck be upon those who pushed this bullshit narrative:lol "looked at"

Scary!

TSA
03-25-2019, 02:29 PM
The Republican candidate's campaign manager, son and son in law attempted to collude with Russia.

What more do you need?

That didn’t start the investigation, and that was a set up by Fusion GPS. What smoke justified the Russian collusion investigation?

Pavlov
03-25-2019, 02:32 PM
That didn’t start the investigation, and that was a set up by Fusion GPS. What smoke justified the Russian collusion investigation?Everyone's lying about their Russian contacts, including Trump.

:lmao you're still pushing your conspiracy theories.

I'm still waiting for your apologies.

TSA
03-25-2019, 02:34 PM
Everyone's lying about their Russian contacts, including Trump.



The investigation had already started by that time. Again, what smoke justified the Russian collusion investigation?

Pavlov
03-25-2019, 02:36 PM
The investigation had already started by that time. Again, what smoke justified the Russian collusion investigation?We've had this conversation before.

Several times.

Do you just forget every time you demand information and get an answer, TSA?

Explain.

TSA
03-25-2019, 02:39 PM
We've had this conversation before.

Several times.

Do you just forget every time you demand information and get an answer, TSA?

Explain.

you jumped into a question not even directed at you

now you refuse to answer it. Don’t hop in the middle of conversations you aren’t willing to discus.

If you want to hop in feel free to answer. what smoke justified the Russian collusion investigation?

boutons_deux
03-25-2019, 02:40 PM
What smoke justified the Russian collusion investigation?

Trash's own action: firing Comey when Comey refused to back down on Flynn,

then announcing in the WH to Russians that Trash had taken care of the Russian investigation.

Trash created this shit show.

... all in the context of the FBI having been investigating Trash's and his mafiya's multi-year contacts with Russiana.

btw

Why have Trash and his mafiya been "forgetting", lying, obstructing for 2 years, if there was no fire underneath all the very thick, visible smoke?

Why did Trash hire so many capos with histories of connections to Russians?

Why did Trash dictate a LIE for DJTjr about adoptions for the get-dirt-on-Hillary-from-Russians meeting?

etc, etc, etc.

Spurs Homer
03-25-2019, 02:41 PM
and yes, schiff and lieu deserve a ton of egg on their faces, for making bold, conclusory statements along the way while the investigation was pending. i criticized all the stupid articles of impeachment stuff that we kept hearing about, including the one introduced by brad sherman, my own representative who i've voted for on multiple occasions

that said, its not as though nunes et al have been vindicated, because they were crying foul play all along. there's no indication of that yet, and wont be until OIG releases its report on alleged fisa abuse. being cleared of criminal charges after a thorough investigation is very different than discrediting the investigation itself as a sham

some good points...
but-

no one has seen muellers report or heard anything directly from mueller


I will wait until 100% of the investigation is revealed.

this stinks of cover up

wanna test it?

wait to see what trump does- what action he takes against russia/putin-
for attacking our elections

it is like OJ looking for the “killers”

this is what we know;
1) sessions refused to do what barr/rosenstein did
2) trump found the guy corrupt enough to cover up the mueller report
3) mueller suddenly ends the investigation? Who made this decision? Why? There Are several open cases- but mueller shuts down? Gmafb
4) now we have 4 pages of BARRS report - barrs VERSION

cover up

either release 100% of muellers report

or

have mueller testify

not barr- he will fucking lie

i would accept 100% the findings of mueller once we see 100% of it

republicans are all in on taking over by any means - rules dont apply to them

they have a huge head start and weak dems will wake up to a dictatorship
we are halfway there

trump will never hold putin accountable

the investigation will be buried until after trump steals a second term

Pavlov
03-25-2019, 02:41 PM
you jumped into a question not even directed at you

now you refuse to answer it. Don’t hop in the middle of conversations you aren’t willing to discus.

If you want to hop in feel free to answer. what smoke justified the Russian collusion investigation?Why should anyone answer you for the 4th or 5th time, TSA?

Explain.

TSA
03-25-2019, 02:42 PM
Trash's own action: firing Comey when Comey refused to back down on Flynn,

then announcing in the WH to Russians that Trash had taken care of the Russian investigation.

Trash created this shit show.

... all in the context of the FBI having been investigating Trash's and his mafiya's multi-year contacts with Russiana.

btw

Why have Trash and his mafiya been "forgetting", lying, obstructing for 2 years, if there was no fire underneath all the very thick, visible smoke?

Why did Trash hire so many capos with histories of connections to Russians?

Why did Trash dictate a LIE for DJTjr about adoptions for the get-dirt-on-Hillary-from-Russians meeting?

etc, etc, etc.

The Russian collusion investigation was already under way when Trump fired Comey. Try again.

What smoke justified the Russian collusion investigation?

TSA
03-25-2019, 02:43 PM
Why should anyone answer you for the 4th or 5th time, TSA?

Explain.

Don’t quote questions not directed at you if you are too chickshit to answer.

What smoke justified the Russian collusion investigation?

Pavlov
03-25-2019, 02:45 PM
Don’t quote questions not directed at you if you are too chickshit to answer.That's just it.

We've answered this very question from you multiple times.

Don't asked questions we've already directly answered for you multiple times.

boutons_deux
03-25-2019, 02:45 PM
Nothing short of ‘armed conflict’ will stop Russian attacks on US elections — ‘it is the new normal’: DNC hack investigator


https://www.rawstory.com/2019/03/nothing-short-armed-conflict-will-stop-russian-attacks-us-elections-new-normal-dnc-hack-investigator/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/03/nothing-short-armed-conflict-will-stop-russian-attacks-us-elections-new-normal-dnc-hack-investigator/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)

Pootin is laughing his ass off.

Big Bad American Empire is obviously a defenseless pussy against foreign cyber warriors.

Even the CIA had all their nasty shit stolen.

boutons_deux
03-25-2019, 02:48 PM
The Russian collusion investigation was already under way when Trump fired Comey. Try again.

What smoke justified the Russian collusion investigation?

But the pre-election, SILENT investigation of Trash and Russia was broken open when Trash fired Comey.

We'll see how Trash laundered money for the Russian oligarchs aka mafiya after SDNY, etc investigations are exposed, also Trash getting $100Ms from DB money launderer with Russian connections.

TSA
03-25-2019, 02:49 PM
That's just it.

We've answered this very question from you multiple times.

Don't asked questions we've already directly answered for you multiple times.

I didn’t really give a shit what you thought until you jumped in the middle of a conversation that didn’t concern you. You quoted me dipshit, now you won’t answer because you know there was no smoke to justify opening an investigation.

You know if you say Papadopoulos or Page was the smoke that justified opening the investigation I’ll laugh right in your fucking face and you know I’d be right to do so.

So if it’s not one of those two whose smoke justified opening the Russian collusion investigation what smoke was it? Be specific.

TSA
03-25-2019, 02:51 PM
But the pre-election, SILENT investigation of Trash and Russia was broken open when Trash fired Comey.
.

Now we are getting somewhere. What smoke justified the opening of the pre-election SILENT investigation?

Pavlov
03-25-2019, 02:52 PM
I didn’t really give a shit That's for sure.

You're just enraged that people don't like Trump as much as you do even though you can't bring yourself to saying you approve his job performance.

Sorry.

Quit asking questions we've answered multiple times. All you're going to do is hype yet another conspiracy theory to demonize Dems.

spurraider21
03-25-2019, 02:55 PM
law enforcement had been looking into it as early as spring of 2016 iirc, after the papa meeting. i dont know exactly at what point it escalated to the levels it ultimately reached.

boutons_deux
03-25-2019, 03:24 PM
eg:

Deutsche Bank Offices Are Raided In Money Laundering Probe

In recent years, Deutsche Bank has been in the news not only for its prominence in the Panama Papers, but also for

its ties to President Trump, in a tumultuous relationship that

goes back some 20 years.

Trump and the bank once sued each other after he failed to repay a $300 million loan. And the author and reporter Luke Harding has described a "shuffle of money" between the bank's dealings with figures in Russia and its business with Trump.


In an interview with NPR's Fresh Air (https://www.npr.org/2017/11/21/565654507/journalist-investigating-trump-and-russia-says-full-picture-is-one-of-collusion) one year ago, Harding said,

"While money from Deutsche Bank New York is going into the Trump Organization,

Deutsche Bank in Moscow is at the center of a massive Russian money laundering operation involving about $10 billion"

that allowed Russia's elites to take rubles out of Russia and convert them into dollars in the U.S.

https://www.npr.org/2018/11/29/671820502/deutsche-bank-offices-are-raided-in-money-laundering-probe (https://www.npr.org/2018/11/29/671820502/deutsche-bank-offices-are-raided-in-money-laundering-probe)

TSA
03-25-2019, 03:41 PM
law enforcement had been looking into it as early as spring of 2016 iirc, after the papa meeting. i dont know exactly at what point it escalated to the levels it ultimately reached.

You think the Papa/Downer meeting that Downer requested where Papa passed on info from Joseph Mifsud (Western Intelligence) was enough smoke to justify opening the Russian collusion investigation?

RandomGuy
03-25-2019, 03:47 PM
There was plenty of dissenting posts from Republicans anyway but not many democrats which is a shame but even worse now is that djohn and RandomGuy (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1813) have to deal with getting rightfully dunked on by the likes of Chris (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1656) and hater (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7609).

sad fate bros..sad fate. I'd probably rather be dead tbh

I wouldn't be quite so quick. Most of what I said happened was simple data sharing, which was pretty well laid out through the Manafort Kalimnik axis, as well as the advance notices that the Trump campaign got from Wikileaks.

They were never going to prove the kinds of things that many wanted. I can go back through here, but the big thing for Trump was always going to be the financial crimes anyway. The collusion bit was never really going to produce any charges.

I suspect that a lot of things that didn't lead to charges but would be more than a bit damning are going to be buried in the thousand plus pages of the report.

Dunno.

spurraider21
03-25-2019, 03:49 PM
You think the Papa/Downer meeting that Downer requested where Papa passed on info from Joseph Mifsud (Western Intelligence) was enough smoke to justify opening the Russian collusion investigation?
collusion was one part of the larger investigation into Russian interference. there is no particular reason why they shouldn't have looked into the possibility. and when the people they interviewed kept giving false statements, it arouses suspicion and justifies a deeper look

would have been a lot more quiet and less chaotic if people just told the truth all along and trump didnt go about firing the guy and then later stating he fired him over the investigation

RandomGuy
03-25-2019, 03:53 PM
a sustained relationship, with information flowing both ways, and meetings between Trump campaign and various levels of campaign officials.

Trump himself asked Russia for help, publically, in a press conference, about the very same email and dirt all these other jackasses had meetings about.

Certainly looks at this point that we have evidence the information sharing did in fact go both ways, with the Russians getting detailed voter data, so that they could direct and target their efforts to sway the election, with some small amount of Hillary information coming back, with promises of more "dirt".

Trump himself continues to act like someone compromised, meeting Putin at every opportunity he can, so that he can have discussions away from any witnesses, and having his scheduled meetings go hours over schedule.

Trump is acting guilty as all fuck.

Stay blind to that. It will make all the shit that is going to come out much sweeter.

Full quote from 2017. Nothing in Barr's memo says that such information sharing didn't happen. Information sharing and meetings.

Both of which happened.

TSA
03-25-2019, 03:54 PM
I wouldn't be quite so quick. Most of what I said happened was simple data sharing, which was pretty well laid out through the Manafort Kalimnik axis, as well as the advance notices that the Trump campaign got from Wikileaks.

They were never going to prove the kinds of things that many wanted. I can go back through here, but the big thing for Trump was always going to be the financial crimes anyway. The collusion bit was never really going to produce any charges.

I suspect that a lot of things that didn't lead to charges but would be more than a bit damning are going to be buried in the thousand plus pages of the report.

Dunno.

There were no advance notice from Wikileaks to the Trump campaign. You are still spreading debunked conspiracy theories, give it a rest.

RandomGuy
03-25-2019, 03:56 PM
There were no advance notice from Wikileaks to the Trump campaign. You are still spreading debunked conspiracy theories, give it a rest.

(shrugs)

I will wait until Stone's trial before opining. But then, I don't get my intellectual marching orders from grifting con men.

TSA
03-25-2019, 03:57 PM
collusion was one part of the larger investigation into Russian interference. there is no particular reason why they shouldn't have looked into the possibility. and when the people they interviewed kept giving false statements, it arouses suspicion and justifies a deeper look

would have been a lot more quiet and less chaotic if people just told the truth all along and trump didnt go about firing the guy and then later stating he fired him over the investigation

Papadapolous wasn't interviewed until a year later. Some justifying smoke right?

TSA
03-25-2019, 03:58 PM
(shrugs)

I will wait until Stone's trial before opining. But then, I don't get my intellectual marching orders from grifting con men.

No need to wait for Stone's trial, you could just read the statement of offense Mueller drafter with Corsi that debunked the whole Wikileaks giving advance notice to the Trump campaign.

Chris
03-25-2019, 03:59 PM
RandomGuy has to be a troll. No one can be that gullible. Democratic Socialist? This dude's trollin'.

RandomGuy
03-25-2019, 04:00 PM
Quite the contrary, I would be happy to discuss my answer, but I don't really have any patience where you are concerned these days.

You will not get an answer until you tell me why this is more important to you than Trump's conflicts of interest and Trumps gross incompetence, because I am genuinely curious as to what motivates someone to work so hard at being dishonest, and overlook so much corruption.

Quid, pro quo.

Again, early in 2018. The real ball is conflicts of interest, general corruption, and gross incompetence. Been saying that since this shit started. This thread, though gets all the attention, because the people sucking Trump's dick don't want to talk about the shit they know he is fucking doing.

Russia stuff way sexier than simple financial malfeasance. :^/

RandomGuy
03-25-2019, 04:15 PM
No need to wait for Stone's trial, you could just read the statement of offense Mueller drafter with Corsi that debunked the whole Wikileaks giving advance notice to the Trump campaign.

??? No clue what you are talking about here.

TSA
03-25-2019, 04:28 PM
??? No clue what you are talking about here.

https://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/documents/politics/draft-jerome-corsi-statement-of-offense/3324/

person 1 = Stone
organization 1 = Wikileaks

Now stop spreading Mueller debunked conspiracy theories :bobo

Spurs Homer
03-25-2019, 04:45 PM
https://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/documents/politics/draft-jerome-corsi-statement-of-offense/3324/

person 1 = Stone
organization 1 = Wikileaks

Now stop spreading Mueller debunked conspiracy theories :bobo


so, mueller confirmed russia attacked the election

reached out several times to trump team

“Allegedly” could not prove conspiracy

what is trump doing today to retaliate against russia?

is he pissed that russia “tried” to compromise him?
is he finally denouncing putin now that muellers report confirmed russia’s attack?

if you were not stupid- you might find it odd that trump will “forget” that putin attacked the usa

didnt he call obama weak for less than this?

TSA
03-25-2019, 04:52 PM
GOP launches counterattack on FBI’s handling of 2016 election

Senate Judiciary Committee chairman Lindsey Graham wants a new special counsel to explore whether the DOJ and FBI sought to stop Trump in 2016.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/25/graham-fbi-2016-election-1235224

:corn:

spurraider21
03-25-2019, 04:53 PM
:lmao

Chris
03-25-2019, 04:57 PM
:lmao

Damn, you were wrong about everything for 2+ years!

Feels bad man.

Pavlov
03-25-2019, 05:05 PM
GOP launches counterattack on FBI’s handling of 2016 election

Senate Judiciary Committee chairman Lindsey Graham wants a new special counsel to explore whether the DOJ and FBI sought to stop Trump in 2016.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/25/graham-fbi-2016-election-1235224

:corn::lmao is he going to go after himself for getting McCain to give the dossier to the FBI?

RandomGuy
03-25-2019, 05:07 PM
https://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/documents/politics/draft-jerome-corsi-statement-of-offense/3324/

person 1 = Stone
organization 1 = Wikileaks

Now stop spreading Mueller debunked conspiracy theories :bobo

Skimmed it.

Maybe you can tell me again, what does the second sentence on page 1, paragraph 1 mean?

Me being simple and all. Maybe you can fill that out for me.

ChumpDumper
03-25-2019, 05:14 PM
collusion was one part of the larger investigation into Russian interference. there is no particular reason why they shouldn't have looked into the possibility. and when the people they interviewed kept giving false statements, it arouses suspicion and justifies a deeper look

would have been a lot more quiet and less chaotic if people just told the truth all along and trump didnt go about firing the guy and then later stating he fired him over the investigationRight?

Just tell the truth and let the investigation run it's course. How difficult is that?

Chris
03-25-2019, 05:15 PM
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1110297738003079169

Pavlov
03-25-2019, 05:18 PM
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1110297738003079169You really want to set a precedent for an elected official's resignation because of lying?

:lol

Chris
03-25-2019, 05:22 PM
You really want to set a precedent for an elected official's resignation because of lying?

:lol

Depends on the severity of the lie and the repercussions.

RandomGuy
03-25-2019, 05:25 PM
There was plenty of dissenting posts from Republicans anyway but not many democrats which is a shame but even worse now is that djohn and RandomGuy (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1813) have to deal with getting rightfully dunked on by the likes of Chris (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1656) and hater (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7609).

sad fate bros..sad fate. I'd probably rather be dead tbh

Also:

Said as much in the very beginning (mar 2018) that the more important things were the conflicts of interest and potential violations of the constitution. Not nearly as sexy for the TSA/Chris crowd.

The Russia thing was intensely pushed back on by the right wing media, because it was something they could win on, and ignored. So that was what got covered.

Chris
03-25-2019, 05:27 PM
https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1110300003032010753

RandomGuy
03-25-2019, 05:27 PM
Depends on the severity of the lie and the repercussions.

Translation:

"Depends on whether or not the politician has a "D" or an "R" behind their name."

:lol Don't piss on my shoes and tell me it's raining. The ONLY thing that matters to you is whether or not it was a Republican. If it was, then you are fine with any lie, any crime. I wouldn't put it past you to have defended Hastert at some point.

Spurs Homer
03-25-2019, 05:36 PM
No reason for republicans to block the release of the full mueller report now amirite?

since exonerated and hoax and all that...

ChumpDumper
03-25-2019, 05:38 PM
Depends on the severity of the lie and the repercussions.OK, give some examples of people who should resign and why.

Winehole23
03-25-2019, 05:41 PM
What smoke justified the Russian collusion investigation?Trump’s campaign contacts plus his screwy comments to Russians and to Lester Holt in the wake of firing Comey.

Chris
03-25-2019, 05:41 PM
https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1110187390881153024

; )

Chris
03-25-2019, 05:42 PM
OK, give some examples of people who should resign and why.

lol homework assignments

ChumpDumper
03-25-2019, 05:42 PM
https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1110187390881153024

; ):rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin :rollin:rollin:rollin

ChumpDumper
03-25-2019, 05:44 PM
lol homework assignmentsThey're your standards Qhris. If you're afraid to state them, I accept your abject fear as an answer

Winehole23
03-25-2019, 05:47 PM
https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1110187390881153024

; )As unlikely as Trump being impeached before he wins or loses in 2020, but possible in principle. According to precedent, ex-officials can be impeached.

With as many radical Dems in the race it’d be weird for Trump to run against HRC and Obama in 2020, but we’ve seen stranger things.

Chris
03-25-2019, 05:48 PM
I stand with Rand! :lol


https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1110257840613195782

Chris
03-25-2019, 05:49 PM
As unlikely as Trump being impeached before he wins or loses in 2020, but possible in principle. According to precedent, ex-officials can be impeached.

With as many radical Dems in the race it’d be weird for Trump to run against HRC and Obama in 2020, but we’ve seen stranger things.

I was laughed out of the building for trying to explain this to the forum.

Pavlov
03-25-2019, 05:49 PM
I stand with Rand! :lol


https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1110257840613195782For what?

Pavlov
03-25-2019, 05:50 PM
I was laughed out of the building for trying to explain this to the forum.I'm laughing at you and Fitton even harder now.:lmao

Winehole23
03-25-2019, 05:50 PM
OK, give some examples of people who should resign and why.why hasn’t the Trump DOJ started investigating already?

Winehole23
03-25-2019, 06:28 PM
and yes, schiff and lieu deserve a ton of egg on their faces, for making bold, conclusory statements along the way while the investigation was pending. i criticized all the stupid articles of impeachment stuff that we kept hearing about, including the one introduced by brad sherman, my own representative who i've voted for on multiple occasions

that said, its not as though nunes et al have been vindicated, because they were crying foul play all along. there's no indication of that yet, and wont be until OIG releases its report on alleged fisa abuse. being cleared of criminal charges after a thorough investigation is very different than discrediting the investigation itself as a shamProving a conspiracy to take down Trump will be as hard, maybe harder, than the recently defeated conspiracies.

Winehole23
03-25-2019, 06:30 PM
Lol faith based conspiratards on all sides.

Winehole23
03-25-2019, 06:31 PM
FBI and DOJ good now.

spurraider21
03-25-2019, 07:12 PM
we need to investigate who from the special counsel's office drafted trump's exoneration letter tbh

Chris
03-25-2019, 07:40 PM
https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1110336062298222592

spurraider21
03-25-2019, 07:50 PM
no need to pardon him. he's going to withdraw his guilty plea any minute now tbh

judge sullivan
brady orders

Pavlov
03-25-2019, 07:55 PM
https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1110336062298222592Is he going to pay with the pardon?

hater
03-25-2019, 08:09 PM
1110337889936789505

TSA
03-25-2019, 08:40 PM
Also:

Said as much in the very beginning (mar 2018) that the more important things were the conflicts of interest and potential violations of the constitution. Not nearly as sexy for the TSA/Chris crowd.

The Russia thing was intensely pushed back on by the right wing media, because it was something they could win on, and ignored. So that was what got covered.

the Russiagate hoax was shoved down our throats 24/7 for 3 years by the MSM...because the right wing media pushed back :lmao

You have fucking lost it dude. You’re a shell of yourself, Trump broke you.

Winehole23
03-25-2019, 08:46 PM
Only two years.

TSA exaggerates by at least 33%.

spurraider21
03-25-2019, 09:04 PM
wasnt until march 2017 when there was any public announcement of an investigation into the trump campaign

boutons_deux
03-25-2019, 09:47 PM
A Dem House gonna impeach private citizen Obama?

goddamn, you rightwingnutjobs are fuckin stupid

TSA
03-25-2019, 10:14 PM
Only two years.

TSA exaggerates by at least 33%.

Winehole exaggerates his math.

762059962101198848

Spurs Homer
03-25-2019, 10:33 PM
Still no one has seen one sentence of the mueller report

only

the barr report

trumps handpicked henchman

DarrinS
03-25-2019, 10:42 PM
Still no one has seen one sentence of the mueller report

only

the barr report

trumps handpicked henchman


Keep hope alive.

DarrinS
03-25-2019, 10:43 PM
Still no one has seen one sentence of the mueller report

only

the barr report

trumps handpicked henchman


Keep hope alive.

koriwhat
03-25-2019, 11:29 PM
Pardon coming in 1-2-3...

koriwhat
03-25-2019, 11:30 PM
trumps handpicked henchman

The crybaby narrative boofuckinghoo :cry

Winehole23
03-25-2019, 11:31 PM
Winehole exaggerates his math.

762059962101198848spurraider21 with the fact check one above your post.

you exaggerrated.

Winehole23
03-25-2019, 11:33 PM
But you're right about my math: you exaggerated by 50%.

Difference between two and three. I minimized your exaggeration.

Spurtacular
03-25-2019, 11:34 PM
FBI and DOJ good now.

They got exposed, bruh. Do you think they're good?

Winehole23
03-25-2019, 11:43 PM
They had good reason to look into it. The failure to indict may not indicate only the lack of evidence to convict beyond a reasonable doubt, it reflects the policy of the DOJ not to indict sitting Presidents.

If it was a witch hunt, why did they fail to burn the witch?

Spurtacular
03-25-2019, 11:44 PM
They had good reason to look into it. The failure to indict may not indicate only the lack of evidence to convict beyond a reasonable doubt, it reflects the policy of the DOJ not to indict sitting Presidents.

If it was a witch hunt, why did they fail to burn the witch?

There's a policy? Can you cite it?

Spurtacular
03-25-2019, 11:45 PM
They had good reason to look into it. The failure to indict may not indicate only the lack of evidence to convict beyond a reasonable doubt, it reflects the policy of the DOJ not to indict sitting Presidents.

If it was a witch hunt, why did they fail to burn the witch?

It had the markings of a witch hunt. But apparently it was too much of a nothing burger all the same....

Winehole23
03-25-2019, 11:46 PM
Mueller didn't overreach the charge given him. He fulfilled it without overreaching.

No further indictments.

Winehole23
03-25-2019, 11:47 PM
It had the markings of a witch hunt. But apparently it was too much of a nothing burger all the same....OJ was found not guilty, do you consider that an exoneration?

Spurtacular
03-25-2019, 11:49 PM
OJ was found not guilty, do you consider that an exoneration?

I consider it an acquittal.

Winehole23
03-26-2019, 12:01 AM
So, not exoneration.

We agree on that.

Spurtacular
03-26-2019, 12:24 AM
So, not exoneration.

We agree on that.

Very technically, it could be considered an exoneration; but that sort of overlooks the fact that OJ is guilty AF.

Any point to this tangent?

Winehole23
03-26-2019, 12:24 AM
There's a policy? Can you cite it?Odd you’re not familiar, but sure, gimme a sec.

Lemme hit this weed first.

Winehole23
03-26-2019, 12:27 AM
https://www.justice.gov/olc/opinion/sitting-president’s-amenability-indictment-and-criminal-prosecution

Spurtacular
03-26-2019, 12:30 AM
https://www.justice.gov/olc/opinion/sitting-president’s-amenability-indictment-and-criminal-prosecution

Can't say I'm surprised.

Winehole23
03-26-2019, 12:34 AM
Very technically, it could be considered an exoneration; but that sort of overlooks the fact that OJ is guilty AF.

Any point to this tangent?failure to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, or declining to prosecute because of the same, isn't exoneration.

E.g., OJ

Winehole23
03-26-2019, 12:35 AM
Can't say I'm surprised.You were clearly unaware, you asked for a cite.

TSA
03-26-2019, 12:37 AM
spurraider21 with the fact check one above your post.

you exaggerrated.


:lol fact check

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/us/politics/fbi-russia-election-donald-trump.html

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/10/was_a_server_registered_to_the_trump_organization_ communicating_with_russia.html

793250312119263233

Spurtacular
03-26-2019, 12:38 AM
failure to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, or declining to prosecute because of the same, isn't exoneration.

E.g., OJ

It's obviously stupid to compare this to OJ, tbh. The report made pretty clear that there is no real evidence against Trump, which is something most of us had been figuring all along. The known evidence against OJ is glaring.

Spurtacular
03-26-2019, 12:40 AM
You were clearly unaware, you asked for a cite.

I've heard Ben Shapiro talk about the president having this ridiculous level of power, tbh.

Chris
03-26-2019, 01:02 AM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1110359392023646208

:corn:

Chris
03-26-2019, 01:24 AM
We may need a Special Counsel...


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2jzaiAVAAMvcEJ.jpg:large

koriwhat
03-26-2019, 01:30 AM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1110359392023646208

:corn:

this is just the beginning!

Chris
03-26-2019, 01:35 AM
this is just the beginning!

https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.giphy.com%2Fmedia%2FLZSCzK9 yNpwhq%2Fgiphy.gif&f=1

Pavlov
03-26-2019, 01:41 AM
:lol Trump supporters are just dumb.

Winehole23
03-26-2019, 01:59 AM
I've heard Ben Shapiro talk about the president having this ridiculous level of power, tbh.well, it's true

Winehole23
03-26-2019, 02:04 AM
It's obviously stupid to compare this to OJ, tbh. The report made pretty clear that there is no real evidence against Trump, which is something most of us had been figuring all along. The known evidence against OJ is glaring.A court of law exonerated OJ of murder. He ended up going to prison because he menaced an asshole with a gun after a trade show. I'm pretty sure you can relate, Johnny.

Winehole23
03-26-2019, 02:05 AM
:lol fact check

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/us/politics/fbi-russia-election-donald-trump.html

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/10/was_a_server_registered_to_the_trump_organization_ communicating_with_russia.html

793250312119263233that's not the beginning of the investigation, silly.

That came months later.

Spurtacular
03-26-2019, 02:09 AM
A court of law exonerated OJ of murder. He ended up going to prison because he menaced an asshole with a gun after a trade show. I'm pretty sure you can relate, Johnny.

:lol Making incoherent arguments when you weren't even on the ropes
:lol blakehole23

Winehole23
03-26-2019, 02:39 AM
just keep fucking that chicken

spurraider21
03-26-2019, 04:51 AM
Winehole exaggerates his math.

762059962101198848
:lmao Hillary tweet = msm shoving the non-public investigation down our throat!

spurraider21
03-26-2019, 04:58 AM
that's not the beginning of the investigation, silly.

That came months later.
1- Investigation had yet to be publicly acknowledged
2- :lol is this the msm shoving the conspiracy down your throat?
3- is it irresponsible for a journalist to report that an investigation is in progress?

Spurs Homer
03-26-2019, 08:18 AM
It's obviously stupid to compare this to OJ, tbh. The report made pretty clear that there is no real evidence against Trump, which is something most of us had been figuring all along. The known evidence against OJ is glaring.

Yeah -

except no one ever saw the report -

they saw a 4 page spin Barr letter.

So it is not clear at all that Mueller said any of this.

Release the full report now - or this cover up will crumble.

boutons_deux
03-26-2019, 09:16 AM
Barr was chosen because of his totally political coverup job of Reagan's Iran-Contra crimes.

Barr will certainly block the Mueller report all or in parts, from the public or from Congress, that show Trash in a bad light.

If Barr succeeds, just another Repug toxic dick into America the fucked and unfuckable.

Spurs Homer
03-26-2019, 10:31 AM
Barr was chosen because of his totally political coverup job of Reagan's Iran-Contra crimes.

Barr will certainly block the Mueller report all or in parts, from the public or from Congress, that show Trash in a bad light.

If Barr succeeds, just another Repug toxic dick into America the fucked and unfuckable.


But this is the strategy;

get a head start on the spin/narrative -

so that by the time we uncover all the red tape surrounding this cover up - it will be too late to remove trump again.

The election was rigged - and it took two years to do an investigation (and Barr probably pressured Mueller to end it prematurely) and when the report comes out -

it is spun and then buried - and where does that leave us?

Back to two years of waiting for ANOTHER legal battle to get to this truth.

2 years - to get to the Russia conspiracy facts -
- then bury the facts

2 years to fight for the release of the covered up Mueller report -


Re-elect the traitor again having NEVER seen the facts of ANYTHING.

Chucho
03-26-2019, 10:34 AM
LOL, conspiratards and their fierce praying and hoping...

Spurs Homer
03-26-2019, 10:38 AM
LOL, conspiratards and their fierce praying and hoping...

Right, it is a conspiracy to want ONE THING;

The Full Mueller Report



as opposed to;

Taking the word of the guy that has lied over 9000 times to your face.
The handpicked henchman - who said over A YEAR AGO - that a president could NEVER be guilty of obstructing justice and therefore - above the law.

Just asking for the 100% of the Mueller report to be released - is a conspiracy to you -
but a con man weaseling out of prosecution is defended by the likes of you.

Chucho
03-26-2019, 10:41 AM
Right, it is a conspiracy to want ONE THING;

The Full Mueller Report



as opposed to;

Taking the word of the guy that has lied over 9000 times to your face.
The handpicked henchman - who said over A YEAR AGO - that a president could NEVER be guilty of obstructing justice and therefore - above the law.

Just asking for the 100% of the Mueller report to be released - is a conspiracy to you -
but a con man weaseling out of prosecution is defended by the likes of you.


Prove where I defend him. Me making fun of retarded dipshits like you and boots isn't defending him, it's just me making fun of retarded dipshits and conspiritards. Stick to your hardcore hoping and praying and narrative building.

spurraider21
03-26-2019, 10:44 AM
spurshomer is going wind up like the beautiful mind guy with the russian parnaoia but without the redeeming genius behind it

Spurs Homer
03-26-2019, 10:47 AM
https://www.salon.com/2019/03/26/cover-up-attorney-general-bill-barr-strikes-again_partner/

Spurs Homer
03-26-2019, 10:51 AM
spurshomer is going wind up like the beautiful mind guy with the russian parnaoia but without the redeeming genius behind it

lol no


just not going to accept criminals stealing our democracy -

nothing will be easy - they have a head start and while dems play by "gentleman rules"

Repukes are too busy taking over to bother with rules or laws

Sleeping people are the most dangerous to our democracy. They attack or ridicule those who care about justice instead of shining a light on the perpetrators.

100% of Muellers report is the minimum that all Americans should be demanding.

TSA
03-26-2019, 12:28 PM
that's not the beginning of the investigation, silly.

That came months later.

the investigation was already under way at that point, silly.

TSA
03-26-2019, 12:28 PM
1110350183685128198

:lmao

TSA
03-26-2019, 12:30 PM
1110540837841264640

TSA
03-26-2019, 12:31 PM
1110547108665397249

TSA
03-26-2019, 01:11 PM
1110575409505230848

Winehole23
03-26-2019, 02:06 PM
Lol "not wittlingly"

TSA
03-26-2019, 03:52 PM
1110618187769491456

Pavlov
03-26-2019, 03:53 PM
:lol Good luck Georgie.

TSA
03-26-2019, 03:55 PM
The Reckoning Finally Arrives for the Trump Resistance

With Mueller’s investigation over, Democrats, the news media and the national security state have a lot to answer for.

“The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.” That single sentence, taken from Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s report on Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential campaign, calls for a reckoning.

It’s a reckoning for Democrats who saw almost every development in this almost-two-year investigation as another dot connecting a conspiracy Mueller has not found. It’s a reckoning for many in the media that dutifully passed along this theory without scrutiny or context. And it’s a reckoning for many national security officials who abandoned their traditional nonpartisan role as custodians of state secrets to engage in a campaign against a president they loathed.

Their suspicions, I should note, were not unwarranted. During the 2016 election, there was strong evidence that Russia had hacked the emails of leading Democrats, a fact supported by Mueller’s indictments. The country later learned from Mueller that Moscow conducted a social media campaign to flood Twitter and Facebook with fake news and propaganda to discredit Hillary Clinton. Trump, meanwhile, once publicly invited the assistance of the Russians.

But many people who should have known better went beyond suspicion and embraced conspiracy. Remember Senator Harry Reid’s explosive letter to James Comey, released just a few days before the election, alleging that the FBI director possessed devastating information about Trump and his campaign’s ties to Russia? Reid did not provide many details. We now know that many of the allegations to which Reid referred echoed an infamous dossier prepared by a former British spy at the behest of an opposition research firm paid by the Democratic Party.

Reid wasn’t the only one. Last year the House Intelligence Committee released memos that showed how this dossier was part of the underlying evidence the FBI provided in a surveillance application to a secret court to monitor the communications of Carter Page, a low-level foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign. Page has not been charged with a crime, and yet his reputation has been trashed after a top-secret warrant for his surveillance was leaked to the media.

The dossier set the initial narrative for the Trump administration. After CNN reported that it was included as part of a briefing Comey himself provided to Trump and Obama, Buzzfeed published the whole thing with the helpful caveat that it was not verified and was in places incorrect. The most important takeaway so far of the Mueller probe is that this dossier is garbage.

Then there is the matter of Trump’s first national security adviser, Michael Flynn. He was forced from the administration and into a legal nightmare after his monitored conversations with Russia’s ambassador to Washington leaked a few weeks before Trump’s inauguration. It’s true that Flynn failed to file as a foreign agent for Turkey, a crime that is normally punished with a slap on the wrist. At the time though, the accusation against Flynn was that he was a Russian spy, based on leaked transcripts that are never supposed to see the light of day. How silly do these hyperventilations look today in light of Mueller’s conclusions?

What’s more, it’s a scandal that no one has investigated how those transcripts were leaked in the first place. Given that the FBI’s own inspector general found that leaking with impunity is commonplace, the bureau’s agents should at least be among the suspects.

Finally, there is that handful of former officials who validated the worst fears of Americans about Trump without ever providing actual evidence. The best example is former CIA Director John Brennan. For the last two years, Brennan has been a frequent guest on cable TV to spread the innuendo that Trump is compromised by Russia. Just this month, he speculated that Mueller would be indicting members of Trump world for criminal conspiracy, even as he insisted he had no “inside knowledge” of Mueller’s deliberations. That last part, at least, turns out to have been true.

The saddest part of all of this is that there was a lot of evidence, hiding in plain sight, that could have spared many collusion proponents their embarrassment. Mueller’s indictment of Roger Stone, for example, alleged that Stone was tasked by a senior campaign official to find out what was in the emails that Russia hacked from Wikileaks founder Julian Assange. If the campaign was coordinating with Russia’s influence campaign, why would Stone have needed to go to Wikileaks?

There were also the transcripts of interviews before the Senate Judiciary Committee of participants in the June 2016 Trump Tower meetings where Donald Trump Jr. and others in the campaign took a meeting with a Russian lawyer who initially promised dirt on Hillary Clinton. Under oath, those witnesses said nothing came of the offer.

And Trump, it should be noted, has appointed Russia hawks at the highest levels. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, National Security Adviser John Bolton and his predecessor H.R. McMaster, and former Secretary of Defense James Mattis all have long public records when it comes to Russia. If Trump were a Russian stooge, why would he appoint them to such posts? And despite his own baffling sycophancy toward Russian President Putin, Trump has not been weak on Russia in terms of policy.

The end of the Mueller probe is more than just a reckoning. It is also a reminder, if anyone needed another one, that the FBI and the intelligence community can be wrong. And it is a powerful illustration of the importance of keeping spies and lawmen out of politics.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-03-25/mueller-report-is-a-reckoning-for-democrats-media-and-deep-state

boutons_deux
03-26-2019, 03:56 PM
"that the FBI and the intelligence community can be wrong"

how were they wrong?

Even McConnell NOW admits, agreeing with 17 spook orgs, that Russian meddling is a serious threat.

If it's "wrong", why are the Repugs committed to keeping Mueller report secret?

boutons_deux
03-26-2019, 04:15 PM
Rand Paul: I’ve Told Trump He Should Pardon Michael Flynn


https://www.mediaite.com/tv/rand-paul-ive-told-trump-he-should-pardon-michael-flynn/

TSA
03-26-2019, 04:48 PM
1110618187769491456

1110532046143787010

Chris
03-26-2019, 04:51 PM
Hatchet man threatened someone? No way.

Chris
03-26-2019, 05:35 PM
https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1110663049499865090


CHAAAAAAAARGE!

TSA
03-26-2019, 06:13 PM
1110676831814979584

“It turns out the group that Ukrainian law enforcement was probing was co-funded by the Obama administration and liberal mega-donor George Soros. And it was collaborating with the FBI agents investigating then-Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort’s business activities with pro-Russian figures in Ukraine.”

Chris
03-26-2019, 06:16 PM
1110676831814979584

“It turns out the group that Ukrainian law enforcement was probing was co-funded by the Obama administration and liberal mega-donor George Soros. And it was collaborating with the FBI agents investigating then-Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort’s business activities with pro-Russian figures in Ukraine.”

Guessing Biden had a lot to do with that

Chris
03-26-2019, 06:16 PM
https://twitter.com/seanhannity/status/1110642595850608645

DarrinS
03-26-2019, 06:25 PM
:lmao


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyNRejUS5yE

Chris
03-26-2019, 06:43 PM
^ What's the percentage of airtime and "reporting" on Trump/Russia/Mueller? This guy has his little slideshow and CNN polls to illustrate his pivot to healthcare - what a joke :lol

TSA
03-26-2019, 06:52 PM
^ What's the percentage of airtime and "reporting" on Trump/Russia/Mueller? This guy has his little slideshow and CNN polls to illustrate his pivot to healthcare - what a joke :lol

More than a half-million web articles published on Russia, Trump, Mueller since investigation began: analysis

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/435608-more-than-one-half-million-web-articles-published-on-russia-trump-mueller

I’m really curious to see the total amount of airtime devoted to the most pushed conspiracy theory of all time

spurraider21
03-26-2019, 06:53 PM
there's no problem with articles being published about an ongoing investigation into the sitting president of the US and his campaign. it'd be irresponsible if they didnt tbh

reporting that: "today the special counsel's office has indicted former trump campaign chair paul manafort" is not pushing a conspiracy theory. its just reporting news of the day.

now if they said, mueller has indicted manafort, and the walls are closing in on trump, he's going to be charged with collusion any week now!

that would be poor journalism

ElNono
03-26-2019, 06:54 PM
More than a half-million web articles published on Russia, Trump, Mueller since investigation began: analysis

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/435608-more-than-one-half-million-web-articles-published-on-russia-trump-mueller

I’m really curious to see the total amount of airtime devoted to the most pushed conspiracy theory of all time

1) It was a real investigation, why wouldn't it be newsworthy, considering it involved POTUS?

2) Let's not pretend that the entire coverage was just one side, tbh, especially in the age of Twitter... you and Qhris out of all people should be fairly aware of this.

TSA
03-26-2019, 09:07 PM
there's no problem with articles being published about an ongoing investigation into the sitting president of the US and his campaign. it'd be irresponsible if they didnt tbh

reporting that: "today the special counsel's office has indicted former trump campaign chair paul manafort" is not pushing a conspiracy theory. its just reporting news of the day.

now if they said, mueller has indicted manafort, and the walls are closing in on trump, he's going to be charged with collusion any week now!

that would be poor journalism

You basically just described the MSM (minus Fox News) and Shepard Smith.

TSA
03-26-2019, 09:10 PM
1) It was a real investigation, why wouldn't it be newsworthy, considering it involved POTUS?

2) Let's not pretend that the entire coverage was just one side, tbh, especially in the age of Twitter... you and Qhris out of all people should be fairly aware of this.

1. It was a real investigation based on what was known to be bullshit.

2. I highly doubt Solomon was referring to twitter threads by Stealth Jeff when running those numbers. To pretend the coverage wasn’t one sided is laughable.

spurraider21
03-26-2019, 09:13 PM
You basically just described the MSM (minus Fox News) and Shepard Smith.
depends on what you qualify as MSM. its a vague title

does it include wapo/nyt/usa today/wsj/politico's non-oped print news? i doubt it

and what about the conspiracy theorists who spread the lie about flynn being entrapped and getting ready to has his plea reversed/invalidated? or that mueller was working with trump to pwn the libs, and that trump only would criticize him to play 4d chess?

DMC
03-26-2019, 09:38 PM
there's no problem with articles being published about an ongoing investigation into the sitting president of the US and his campaign. it'd be irresponsible if they didnt tbh

reporting that: "today the special counsel's office has indicted former trump campaign chair paul manafort" is not pushing a conspiracy theory. its just reporting news of the day.

now if they said, mueller has indicted manafort, and the walls are closing in on trump, he's going to be charged with collusion any week now!

that would be poor journalism


depends on what you qualify as MSM. its a vague title

does it include wapo/nyt/usa today/wsj/politico's non-oped print news? i doubt it

and what about the conspiracy theorists who spread the lie about flynn being entrapped and getting ready to has his plea reversed/invalidated? or that mueller was working with trump to pwn the libs, and that trump only would criticize him to play 4d chess?

Were you born anointed with the gift of setting the standards for MSM and journalism? You seem to have adopted to that role quite well. I guess in the future people should just ask you if something is poor journalism, or to point out MSM since no one else can recognize it.

Winehole23
03-26-2019, 09:40 PM
Actually, he did point that out.

DMC gaslighting all over the joint today.

spurraider21
03-26-2019, 09:53 PM
Were you born anointed with the gift of setting the standards for MSM and journalism? You seem to have adopted to that role quite well. I guess in the future people should just ask you if something is poor journalism, or to point out MSM since no one else can recognize it.
Noting but narratives

DMC
03-26-2019, 09:55 PM
Actually, he did point that out.

DMC gaslighting all over the joint today.

I have no idea what you're talking about (neither do you).

TSA
03-26-2019, 09:58 PM
depends on what you qualify as MSM. its a vague title

does it include wapo/nyt/usa today/wsj/politico's non-oped print news? i doubt it

and what about the conspiracy theorists who spread the lie about flynn being entrapped and getting ready to has his plea reversed/invalidated? or that mueller was working with trump to pwn the libs, and that trump only would criticize him to play 4d chess?

MSM blurred the line on non-oped. And are you really trying to compare the reach of the MSM to twitter conspiracy theorists? :lol

Winehole23
03-26-2019, 10:30 PM
I have no idea what you're talking about (neither do you).Of course you don’t. You weren’t paying attention.

DMC
03-26-2019, 10:45 PM
Of course you don’t. You weren’t paying attention.
Says the one who needs 4 posts in a row to make one sentence.

DarrinS
03-26-2019, 10:49 PM
I don't think history will be kind to this period of "journalism".

DarrinS
03-26-2019, 10:59 PM
:lmao


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyNRejUS5yE



Climate change and reparations didn't make the list.

:lmao

Spurs Homer
03-26-2019, 11:09 PM
Republicans don't want "transparency"

why?

https://www.rollcall.com/news/congress/democrats-press-full-mueller-report-gop-erects-barriers

spurraider21
03-27-2019, 01:29 AM
MSM blurred the line on non-oped. And are you really trying to compare the reach of the MSM to twitter conspiracy theorists? :lol
No. But you found them to be very credible tbh :lol

i will stipulate that tv talking heads blended opinion and wishcasting with reporting, generally. I didn’t really see it in print though, tbh. That’s where i got my info, and that’s why djohn and spurshomer kept complaining about my lack of commitment to their certainty

boutons_deux
03-27-2019, 11:20 AM
Most Americans believe Russia has ‘kompromat’ on Trump

Trust in the administration is quite low.

A new Politico/Morning Consult poll finds that 52 percent of voters believe Russia has compromising information on President Donald Trump.

30 percent believe it’s very likely that Russia has compromising information,

with another 22 percent adding that it’s somewhat likely and

14 percent saying they don’t know.

Even among those who identified as

Republicans, some 22 percent believed it’s likely.

Only 35 percent of all voters believed to some degree that it’s not likely. :lol

The poll also found that a 47 percent plurality of voters believe Trump “tried to impede or obstruct the investigation into whether his campaign had ties to Russia.”

Most voters believe the full Mueller report should be made public (82 percent).

https://thinkprogress.org/a-majority-of-americans-believe-russia-has-compromising-info-on-trump-6cc8332b8596/ (https://thinkprogress.org/a-majority-of-americans-believe-russia-has-compromising-info-on-trump-6cc8332b8596/)

koriwhat
03-27-2019, 02:48 PM
Most Americans believe Russia has ‘kompromat’ on Trump

Trust in the administration is quite low.

A new Politico/Morning Consult poll finds that 52 percent of voters believe Russia has compromising information on President Donald Trump.

30 percent believe it’s very likely that Russia has compromising information,

with another 22 percent adding that it’s somewhat likely and

14 percent saying they don’t know.

Even among those who identified as

Republicans, some 22 percent believed it’s likely.

Only 35 percent of all voters believed to some degree that it’s not likely. :lol

The poll also found that a 47 percent plurality of voters believe Trump “tried to impede or obstruct the investigation into whether his campaign had ties to Russia.”

Most voters believe the full Mueller report should be made public (82 percent).

https://thinkprogress.org/a-majority-of-americans-believe-russia-has-compromising-info-on-trump-6cc8332b8596/ (https://thinkprogress.org/a-majority-of-americans-believe-russia-has-compromising-info-on-trump-6cc8332b8596/)




all left outlets and left polls polling lefties... lmao you're such a sheep!

TSA
03-27-2019, 05:34 PM
1110987950605680642

Brennan looked mighty nervous in his interview after the Mueller findings were released

boutons_deux
03-27-2019, 05:38 PM
Ayn Rand Paul wants confessed lying, corrupt criminal Flynn to be pardoned.

There nothing fake about the Steele dossier. Most has been verified.

TSA
03-27-2019, 05:42 PM
Ayn Rand Paul wants confessed lying, corrupt criminal Flynn to be pardoned.

There nothing fake about the Steele dossier. Most has been verified.

:lmao

TSA
03-27-2019, 05:56 PM
Must read for the Russiagate pushers. These are the people who led you sheep around.

50+ Journalists, Politicians, Celebrities, and Grifters Who Peddled the Russia Collusion Hoax

https://pjmedia.com/trending/50-journalists-politicians-celebrities-and-grifters-who-peddled-the-russia-collusion-hoax/

spurraider21
03-27-2019, 06:16 PM
Must read for the Russiagate pushers. These are the people who led you sheep around.

50+ Journalists, Politicians, Celebrities, and Grifters Who Peddled the Russia Collusion Hoax

https://pjmedia.com/trending/50-journalists-politicians-celebrities-and-grifters-who-peddled-the-russia-collusion-hoax/
again, depends on what constitutes "peddling" and what constitutes a "hoax"

the example they give for jim acosta, for example, is that he questioned the "3 or 4" intelligence agencies that trump mentioned. even though acosta was going off the previously reported (incorrectly, then later corrected) claims of 17 agencies, how is his questioning of "3 or 4" the same as "peddling the russia hoax"

for brian stelter, they refer to his brushing off of the claims that the obama administration wire tapped and surveillance trump. he was correct. and even if trump was tapped, how is that the same as stelter peddling the russia hoax?

this kind of lazy writing is just as bad as the people you're complaining about. and thats literally the first 2 people they talk about in that article. not gonna go through all 50.

im sure some are spot on. manu raju was completely off with his reporting, and of course maddow was off the rails. but some of these examples are awful. look at what they wrote about benjamin wittes (guy id never heard of before this article). how is that the same as peddling a hoax?

Spurtacular
03-27-2019, 06:17 PM
:lol This is the official chumpette menstruation thread. :lol

spurraider21
03-27-2019, 06:23 PM
TSA was the hillary clinton email scandal just a hoax since she was never charged with anything? if so, then lets just look at every journalist, politician, celebrites, etc who peddled the clinton email hoax conspiracy theory

Pavlov
03-27-2019, 06:23 PM
again, depends on what constitutes "peddling" and what constitutes a "hoax"

the example they give for jim acosta, for example, is that he questioned the "3 or 4" intelligence agencies that trump mentioned. even though acosta was going off the previously reported (incorrectly, then later corrected) claims of 17 agencies, how is his questioning of "3 or 4" the same as "peddling the russia hoax"

for brian stelter, they refer to his brushing off of the claims that the obama administration wire tapped and surveillance trump. he was correct. and even if trump was tapped, how is that the same as stelter peddling the russia hoax?

this kind of lazy writing is just as bad as the people you're complaining about. and thats literally the first 2 people they talk about in that article. not gonna go through all 50You can always count on fake conservatives to overplay their hand.

Always.

:lol "must read"

ChumpDumper
03-27-2019, 06:25 PM
TSA was the hillary clinton email scandal just a hoax since she was never charged with anything? if so, then lets just look at every journalist, politician, celebrites, etc who peddled the clinton email hoax conspiracy theoryMeh, TSA is influenced by nameless incels on 4chan, 8chan and Voat.

spurraider21
03-27-2019, 06:26 PM
reality: mueller sends trump written questions

journalist: sources tell me mueller sent trump written questions

TSA: LOL that journalist peddled a conspiracy theory

TSA
03-27-2019, 06:35 PM
reality: mueller sends trump written questions

journalist: sources tell me mueller sent trump written questions

TSA: LOL that journalist peddled a conspiracy theory

thinking that’s an accurate representation of how the investigation was covered :lol

TSA
03-27-2019, 06:39 PM
TSA was the hillary clinton email scandal just a hoax since she was never charged with anything? if so, then lets just look at every journalist, politician, celebrites, etc who peddled the clinton email hoax conspiracy theory

Actual crimes by Clinton were found during that investigation. What crimes by Trump were found by Mueller?

boutons_deux
03-27-2019, 06:42 PM
Actual crimes by Clinton were found during that investigation

:lol what crimes? indictments?

we don't know what Mueller found because Repugs hide M's report, because it's full of shit that will stick to Trash and his mafiya, impeachable, disloyal, liar's shit

Spurtacular
03-27-2019, 06:56 PM
Meh, TSA is influenced by nameless incels on 4chan, 8chan and Voat.

Any more sites triggering you?

spurraider21
03-27-2019, 07:06 PM
Actual crimes by Clinton were found during that investigation. What crimes by Trump were found by Mueller?
wow you're still peddling the hoax. she was completely and totally exonerated since no charges were filed

TSA
03-27-2019, 07:12 PM
wow you're still peddling the hoax. she was completely and totally exonerated since no charges were filed

I clearly said actual crimes were found and said nothing of charges being filed. Weak attempt chumpdumperlite.

So what crimes by Trump were found by Mueller?

TSA
03-27-2019, 07:17 PM
There nothing fake about the Steele dossier. Most has been verified.

:lmao

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boutons_deux
03-27-2019, 07:25 PM
Congress passed sanctions, Trash refuses to implement and enforce them. He doesn't want to upset Vlad

spurraider21
03-27-2019, 07:26 PM
I clearly said actual crimes were found and said nothing of charges being filed. Weak attempt chumpdumperlite.
completely and totally exonerated


So what crimes by Trump were found by Mueller?
none. isn't that the purpose of an investigation?

boutons_deux
03-27-2019, 07:42 PM
The Steele Dossier: A Retrospective

https://www.lawfareblog.com/steele-dossier-retrospective

Chris
03-27-2019, 11:42 PM
https://twitter.com/georgepapa19/status/1111100793954947072?s=21

: )

Chris
03-28-2019, 12:07 AM
djohn2oo8 you hiding in the NBA forum what's up? :lol

Spurs Homer
03-28-2019, 12:31 AM
Comey saying exactly what I have been saying - including the "did not establish" collusion thing;



https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/nbc-news-exclusive-james-comey-gives-first-interview-since-mueller-completed-report-1466260035534


The part about - "change the names to Obama and Iran - instead of Trump and Russia" is something all you trump semen-shielders should watch and learn from.

ElNono
03-28-2019, 08:19 AM
1. It was a real investigation based on what was known to be bullshit.

2. I highly doubt Solomon was referring to twitter threads by Stealth Jeff when running those numbers. To pretend the coverage wasn’t one sided is laughable.

1. It was a real investigation period. Even if you were wishcasting to end the way it did, you didn't do your two victory laps until the investigation was concluded, and rightly so.

2. Are you really going to pretend there was no two sides to this? I mean, a cursory look at the Flynn thread and your post history should be sufficient. I'm not going to say they were equal, but pretending only one side was speaking is fairly disingenuous.

Spurs Homer
03-28-2019, 10:44 AM
Adam Schiff - a true patriot - smacking down the traitors in his committee -
listen to his words - he is going to tell you the EVIDENCE OF COLLUSION -
so you can hear it and see it with your own eyes! Yet traitors will still refuse to believe these FACTS!!!!

:lmao:lmao look at traitor NUNES' face!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qIyhuTQ9Y4

Spurs Homer
03-28-2019, 10:51 AM
boom!

:hungry::hungry:

TSA
03-28-2019, 11:18 AM
Adam Schiff - a true patriot - smacking down the traitors in his committee -
listen to his words - he is going to tell you the EVIDENCE OF COLLUSION -
so you can hear it and see it with your own eyes! Yet traitors will still refuse to believe these FACTS!!!!

:lmao:lmao look at traitor NUNES' face!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qIyhuTQ9Y4

He’s been claiming he had evidence of collusion for two years. He’s full of shit and currently shitting his pants after Trump’s interview last night calling out Schiff as a criminal.

Called this shit. Once Mueller wrapped up Trump would declass it all.

Trump vows to release FISA docs now that Mueller probe is concluded, slams 'treasonous' FBI

President Trump, in an exclusive wide-ranging interview Wednesday night with Fox News' "Hannity," vowed to release the full and unredacted Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrants and related documents used by the FBI to probe his campaign, saying he wants to "get to the bottom" of how the long-running Russia collusion narrative began.

Trump told anchor Sean Hannity that his lawyers previously had advised him not to take that dramatic step out of fear that it could be considered obstruction of justice.

"I do, I have plans to declassify and release. I have plans to absolutely release," Trump said. "I have some very talented people working for me, lawyers, and they really didn't want me to do it early on. ... A lot of people wanted me to do it a long time ago. I'm glad I didn't do it. We got a great result without having to do it, but we will. One of the reasons that my lawyers didn't want me to do it, is they said, if I do it, they'll call it a form of obstruction."

Trump added: "Frankly, thought it would be better if we held it to the end. But at the right time, we will be absolutely releasing."

Trump also accused FBI officials of committing "treason" -- slamming former FBI Director James Comey as a "terrible guy," former CIA Director John Brennan as potentially mentally ill, and Democrat House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff as a criminal.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-vows-to-release-fisa-docs-now-that-mueller-probe-is-concluded-slams-treasonous-fbi

Now the real fun begins and you Russiagate pushers will have even more shit to eat.

spurraider21
03-28-2019, 11:41 AM
Mueller redactions to the texts should be investigated immediately. I'm convinced he's deleting evidence.
:lmao redactions good now
:lmao protecting sources and methods good now

Chucho
03-28-2019, 11:48 AM
:lmao redactions good now
:lmao protecting sources and methods good now

Anything and everything becomes "good now" when it benefits your stance.

Spurs Homer
03-28-2019, 11:55 AM
He’s been claiming he had evidence of collusion for two years. He’s full of shit and currently shitting his pants after Trump’s interview last night calling out Schiff as a criminal.

Called this shit. Once Mueller wrapped up Trump would declass it all.

Trump vows to release FISA docs now that Mueller probe is concluded, slams 'treasonous' FBI

President Trump, in an exclusive wide-ranging interview Wednesday night with Fox News' "Hannity," vowed to release the full and unredacted Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrants and related documents used by the FBI to probe his campaign, saying he wants to "get to the bottom" of how the long-running Russia collusion narrative began.

Trump told anchor Sean Hannity that his lawyers previously had advised him not to take that dramatic step out of fear that it could be considered obstruction of justice.

"I do, I have plans to declassify and release. I have plans to absolutely release," Trump said. "I have some very talented people working for me, lawyers, and they really didn't want me to do it early on. ... A lot of people wanted me to do it a long time ago. I'm glad I didn't do it. We got a great result without having to do it, but we will. One of the reasons that my lawyers didn't want me to do it, is they said, if I do it, they'll call it a form of obstruction."

Trump added: "Frankly, thought it would be better if we held it to the end. But at the right time, we will be absolutely releasing."

Trump also accused FBI officials of committing "treason" -- slamming former FBI Director James Comey as a "terrible guy," former CIA Director John Brennan as potentially mentally ill, and Democrat House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff as a criminal.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-vows-to-release-fisa-docs-now-that-mueller-probe-is-concluded-slams-treasonous-fbi

Now the real fun begins and you Russiagate pushers will have even more shit to eat.


Good!

he can also declassify the mueller report! (He never will)

the difference is that only one side wants full transparency

the other side is in full cover up mode!

spurraider21
03-28-2019, 11:56 AM
Anything and everything becomes "good now" when it benefits your stance.
if you're a hypocrite, yes.

Chucho
03-28-2019, 11:58 AM
if you're a hypocrite, yes.

Lots of those down here, tbh.

Spurs Homer
03-28-2019, 01:01 PM
Does anyone find it odd that trump is hyping

”the exoneration report”

while simultaneously trying to bury it?

Winehole23
03-28-2019, 01:28 PM
what report, we've seen bupkis?

good to know Republicans now think official conduct is beyond reproach so long as it is not provably illegal.