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Chris
04-20-2018, 05:19 PM
Maddow has a PhD in political science. I guess you prefer your news from dropouts?

Maddow gets paid $30,000 a day to spew corporate propaganda.

RandomGuy
04-20-2018, 05:19 PM
TSA still hasn't made his mind up about Mueller tbh. Needs moar blogs.

His cult is going to have to bounce around some new delusion that fits their "libruls is Satanist children abusers" narrative after Mueller drops the hammer.

Most analysis I read at the start was some what dubious he would find anything like a smoking gun, but some of the deets that have trickled out of this golden investigation do not look they are going to shower the president with pronouncements of innocence.

(edit)

Seriously though, it looks like Cohen actually did exactly what the dossier says he did. That is collusion in any book.

Pavlov
04-20-2018, 05:21 PM
Maddow gets paid $30,000 a day to spew corporate propaganda.How much does Hannity get paid a day, white Chris?

RandomGuy
04-20-2018, 05:21 PM
[Dr.] Maddow gets paid $30,000 a day to spew corporate propaganda.

Good for her. Honest, intelligent analysis should be well paid.

As opposed to railing against tan suits, and Dijon mustard. :rollin

Chris
04-20-2018, 05:23 PM
His cult is going to have to bounce around some new delusion that fits their "libruls is Satanist children abusers" narrative after Mueller drops the hammer.

Most analysis I read at the start was some what dubious he would find anything like a smoking gun, but some of the deets that have trickled out of this golden investigation do not look they are going to shower the president with pronouncements of innocence.

(edit)

Seriously though, it looks like Cohen actually did exactly what the dossier says he did. That is collusion in any book.

How many years do you think he will get for collusion?

Chris
04-20-2018, 05:24 PM
How much does Hannity get paid a day, white Chris?

I'm talking about Maddow.

spurraider21
04-20-2018, 05:26 PM
I'm talking about Maddow.
Does getting paid by a network invalidate someone's message?

Pavlov
04-20-2018, 05:27 PM
I'm talking about Maddow.Hannity is a direct competitor doing the same thing at another network.

How much does he get paid to do it per day?

Reck
04-20-2018, 05:31 PM
Maddow gets paid $30,000 a day to spew corporate propaganda.

Damn, that's a lot of Netflix subscription dough right there, Chris.

RandomGuy
04-20-2018, 05:38 PM
Does getting paid by a network invalidate someone's message?

Circumstantial ad hominem. Done poorly. Dude can't even do logical fallacies right. :lol

spurraider21
04-20-2018, 05:40 PM
Circumstantial ad hominem. Done poorly. Dude can't even do logical fallacies right. :lol
To be fair, propping up her political opinions due to her academic credentials is pure argument from authority...

Chris
04-20-2018, 05:57 PM
Trying to change the subject to Hannity - typical whataboutery.


"Not a target" :tu

"Salacious and unverified" :tu

spurraider21
04-20-2018, 05:57 PM
Maddow gets paid $30,000 a day to spew corporate propaganda.


Does getting paid by a network invalidate someone's message?

RandomGuy
04-20-2018, 06:00 PM
To be fair, propping up her political opinions due to her academic credentials is pure argument from authority...

No, not really. Never, ever would claim anything she says is true for the sole reason of her education.

In this, you are incorrect. The only thing I have said is that the quality of her analysis is better than many of her competitors (left or right)

I would add:


Exception: Be very careful not to confuse "deferring to an authority on the issue" with the appeal to authority fallacy. Remember, a fallacy is an error in reasoning. Dismissing the council of legitimate experts and authorities turns good skepticism into denialism. The appeal to authority is a fallacy in argumentation, but deferring to an authority is a reliable heuristic that we all use virtually every day on issues of relatively little importance. There is always a chance that any authority can be wrong, that’s why the critical thinker accepts facts provisionally. It is not at all unreasonable (or an error in reasoning) to accept information as provisionally true by credible authorities. Of course, the reasonableness is moderated by the claim being made (i.e., how extraordinary, how important) and the authority (how credible, how relevant to the claim).
https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/21/Appeal-to-Authority

Pavlov
04-20-2018, 06:02 PM
Trying to change the subject to Hannity - typical whataboutery.OK, answer the question about Maddow:

Does getting paid by a network invalidate someone's message?

spurraider21
04-20-2018, 06:03 PM
Maddow gets paid $30,000 a day to spew corporate propaganda.


No, not really. Never, ever would claim anything she says is true for the sole reason of her education.

In this, you are incorrect. The only thing I have said is that the quality of her analysis is better than many of her competitors (left or right)

I would add:


https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/21/Appeal-to-Authority
i'm aware of the difference. i disagree that your post last page was anything but an appeal to auth

RandomGuy
04-20-2018, 06:04 PM
Trying to change the subject to Hannity - typical whataboutery.


"Not a target" :tu

"Salacious and unverified" :tu

Actually the topic was your dumbassery and hypocrisy. Hannity was brought up to demonstrate that. The fact that you don't seem to want to answer the question indicates you know exactly how you are getting spanked, and this is an attempt to pretend that isn't happening by declaring some form of victory.

Idiot.

Chris
04-20-2018, 06:05 PM
Does getting paid by a network invalidate someone's message?

What's her message specifically?

RandomGuy
04-20-2018, 06:05 PM
i'm aware of the difference. i disagree that your post last page was anything but an appeal to auth

Then by all means show exactly how that was done.

Do tell, and be specific.

I am calling bullshit. Your claim, your burden of proof.

Chris
04-20-2018, 06:09 PM
Actually the topic was your dumbassery and hypocrisy. Hannity was brought up to demonstrate that. The fact that you don't seem to want to answer the question indicates you know exactly how you are getting spanked, and this is an attempt to pretend that isn't happening by declaring some form of victory.

Idiot.

Sorry to burst your bubble pinhead. Maddow gets paid to lie to you and you love it.

Those are direct quotes.

Idiot.

RandomGuy
04-20-2018, 06:11 PM
ben shapiro graduated summa cum laude from UCLA in political science and then cum laude from harvard law. how seriously do you take the Daily Wire? or breitbart when he was the editor at large?

Missed this.

Not hugely familiar with his work, so no real opinion. Either the work/analysis is decent, or its not.

Education generally increases the quality of such work, regardless of whether I may agree with the conclusions or not. Maddow's education was useful information in pointing out that Maddow should probably not be dismissed out of hand.

Hope that helps clear it up for you.

RandomGuy
04-20-2018, 06:12 PM
Sorry to burst your bubble pinhead. Maddow gets paid to lie to you and you love it.

Those are direct quotes.

Idiot.

(yawn)

Chris
04-20-2018, 06:13 PM
(yawn)

*white flag

Too ez

Pavlov
04-20-2018, 06:16 PM
What's her message specifically?You don't know what her message is.

How can you bitch about it?

lol

Chris
04-20-2018, 06:17 PM
You don't know what her message is.

How can you bitch about it?

lol


Never claimed she had a message. What's her message Pavlov specifically?

Pavlov
04-20-2018, 06:19 PM
Never claimed she had a message.So what are you saying she does, Chris?

Chris
04-20-2018, 06:20 PM
So what are you saying she does, Chris?

Spew corporate propaganda.

Pavlov
04-20-2018, 06:24 PM
Spew corporate propaganda.You're saying her message is corporate propaganda, white Chris.

RandomGuy
04-20-2018, 06:34 PM
To be fair, propping up her political opinions due to her academic credentials is pure argument from authority...


Appeal to Authority
argumentum ad verecundiam

(also known as: argument from authority, ipse dixit)

Description: Insisting that a claim is true simply because a valid authority or expert on the issue said it was true, without any other supporting evidence offered. Also see the appeal to false authority.

Logical Form:

According to person 1, who is an expert on the issue of Y, Y is true.

Therefore, Y is true.

So, in order to get this to work for you, you need to find somewhere that I claimed, or fairly implied, that

"Rachel Maddow says X, so it must be true".



Why the GOP’s failure over the Comey memos seems so familiar
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/why-the-gops-failure-over-the-comey-memos-seems-so-familiar

(worth noting article is not by Maddow herself)
By Steve Benen (producer for Maddow)


:lol Maddow



Maddow has a PhD in political science. I guess you prefer your news from dropouts?

If you want to make up shit, you can say that I implied, somehow, that anything Maddow said was true, but that implication was never actually stated. My intent was clarified here:


It is kinda obvious Dr. Maddow was a sharp person from the first couple times I watched her show. She has to deal with the grind of finding something to talk about for a periodic show, but still the quality of her analysis, even through any bias, is still pretty good.

The ONLY way you can say that, is if you assume that my article was by Maddow herself (which I knew it wasn't), AND you put words in my mouth that pretty much contradict my later statements.

Sorry, you are just wrong.

Not that I don't make reasoning mistakes, I do, you just didn't find one here.

(shrugs)

Personally I could make the argument that your claim is, itself a strawman logical fallacy, if you really want to push that, I can use the above to draw a much clearer line to your mistake than anything I did.

I have spoon fed it to you. Either you can find something that I said was true simply because Maddow said it, or you can't. You seem like an honest sort, so I will assume you aren't shooting for a strawman here.

spurraider21
04-20-2018, 06:35 PM
k, i'll take all that into consideration

but you were vouching for the credibility of an article written by a guy named Steve Banen because he wrote a piece in a blog of a person who is very well educated

DarrinS
04-20-2018, 06:50 PM
RG doth protest too much, me thinks

Blake
04-20-2018, 06:54 PM
Never claimed she had a message. What's her message Pavlov specifically?


So what are you saying she does, Chris?



Spew corporate propaganda.


propaganda

In*general, a*message*designed to persuade its intended*audience*to think and behave in a certain manner.

http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/propaganda.html

Pavlov
04-20-2018, 06:59 PM
propaganda

In*general, a*message*designed to persuade its intended*audience*to think and behave in a certain manner.

http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/propaganda.htmlOk

TSA
04-20-2018, 09:52 PM
987260257620635648

Clapper Clapper Clapper

boutons_deux
04-20-2018, 10:26 PM
Jeff Sessions to top White House lawyer: If Trump fires Rosenstein, I might leave too


https://www.vox.com/2018/4/20/17264704/jeff-sessions-trump-fired-rosenstein-russia-mueller (https://www.vox.com/2018/4/20/17264704/jeff-sessions-trump-fired-rosenstein-russia-mueller)

Blake
04-20-2018, 10:54 PM
Ok

It's not a message! It's propaganda!

Reck
04-20-2018, 10:59 PM
Jeff Sessions to top White House lawyer: If Trump fires Rosenstein, I might leave too


https://www.vox.com/2018/4/20/17264704/jeff-sessions-trump-fired-rosenstein-russia-mueller (https://www.vox.com/2018/4/20/17264704/jeff-sessions-trump-fired-rosenstein-russia-mueller)

He might fire Rosenstein just to get rid of Sessions. :lmao

Trump has been begging for an excuse. He just got one.

And he wouldn't even have to fire him.

Reck
04-20-2018, 11:22 PM
Trump's actually gearing up to firing Mueller.

987529636656697345

Pavlov
04-20-2018, 11:28 PM
lol Council

Chris
04-21-2018, 12:05 AM
987556560787341312

BD24
04-21-2018, 10:18 AM
Does Chris post anything from twitter by people who aren't afraid to hide behind a screen name :lol

None of these faggots using their real names :lol

DarrinS
04-21-2018, 10:21 AM
Does Chris post anything from twitter by people who aren't afraid to hide behind a screen name :lol

None of these faggots using their real names :lol

I guess your mom named you ElKingslayer2?

Was ElKingslayer1 already taken? :lol

BD24
04-21-2018, 10:23 AM
I guess your mom named you ElKingslayer2?

Was ElKingslayer1 already taken? :lol
I would hope no one is quoting anything I say here on other sites as a credible source.

You completely missed the point, for some reason I am not surprised though.

Spurminator
04-21-2018, 10:30 AM
Does Chris post anything from twitter by people who aren't afraid to hide behind a screen name :lol

None of these faggots using their real names :lol

In his defense, he occasionally he posts James Woods commentary. :lol

djohn2oo8
04-21-2018, 10:47 AM
He might fire Rosenstein just to get rid of Sessions. :lmao

Trump has been begging for an excuse. He just got one.

And he wouldn't even have to fire him.

Sessions goes that will be it for Trump. Little elf has alot of support on the Hill.

Reck
04-21-2018, 12:01 PM
I guess your mom named you ElKingslayer2?

Was ElKingslayer1 already taken? :lol

Totally missed the point. LOL

boutons_deux
04-21-2018, 02:07 PM
Bears re-viewing

Trash fellators, better skip it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epOFcZt9Zic

baseline bum
04-21-2018, 02:27 PM
Sessions goes that will be it for Trump. Little elf has alot of support on the Hill.

Definitely not before primaries.

boutons_deux
04-21-2018, 03:07 PM
Definitely not before primaries.

Trash's cult won't care, they'll vote Repug straight ticket

baseline bum
04-21-2018, 03:11 PM
Trash's cult won't care, they'll vote Repug straight ticket

In primaries Trump backers could easily beat GOP incumbents who don't pretend to be loyal to Trump, but it wouldn't shock me to see the GOP impeach after primaries if he fires Mueller since they might be scared Trump would work with Democrats after the midterms while Pence never would.

boutons_deux
04-21-2018, 03:41 PM
Trump lashes out at New York Times over Michael Cohen coverage, vows his attorney won’t ‘flip’

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2018/04/21/trump-lashes-out-at-new-york-times-over-michael-cohen-coverage-vows-cohen-wont-flip/?utm_term=.59430e79a065&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

friendless, disrespected, so-called Pres Trash is so lost in his sicko fantasy world that he "thinks" people will pay many $Ks in fines, years in prison to protect him.

boutons_deux
04-21-2018, 05:12 PM
Mueller Says That Until Yesterday He Had Almost Forgotten to Investigate Giuliani

https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5ad9ff7125e5f9763807cdd7/master/w_1298,c_limit/Borowitz-Mueller-Reaction-to-Giuliani.jpg

WASHINGTON —The independent counsel, Robert Mueller, told reporters that, prior to news reports on Thursday, he had “almost forgotten” to investigate the former New York mayor Rudolph Giuliani.

“Like most Americans,

I had totally forgotten about Rudy Giuliani’s existence,”

he said. “But then when he popped up on the news I was, like,

‘Hold on—shouldn’t we be investigating him?’ ”

Mueller was at a loss to explain why he had failed to investigate Giuliani earlier. “I have no idea how it could have slipped my mind,” he said.

“His role in Trump’s campaign was as fishy as all get-out.”

He said that other members of his team were “poking fun” at him for not deciding to investigate Giuliani before Thursday. “I mean, think about it:

how do you do a criminal investigation of the Trump campaign and leave Rudy out of it?”

he said. “I’ve got to say, I’m pretty darn embarrassed about the whole thing.”

When asked for an estimate of when the Russia inquiry might wrap up, Mueller responded, “I honestly can’t say. I was hoping to bring it to a close in the next month or two, but now that we’re also investigating Rudy Giuliani, God only knows how long it’ll take.”

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/mueller-says-that-until-yesterday-he-had-almost-forgotten-to-investigate-giuliani (https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/mueller-says-that-until-yesterday-he-had-almost-forgotten-to-investigate-giuliani)

boutons_deux
04-21-2018, 06:06 PM
A veteran defense lawyer explains how the feds could flip Michael Cohen

“They’re going to threaten him with a long prison term and try to turn him into a canary that sings,” Alan Dershowitz,

the raid suggests that prosecutors believe they have overwhelming evidence of a crime or crimes.

, known for his combative verbal style,

raised some eyebrows in the Trump administration when he said the federal agents raiding his office were “extremely professional, courteous and respectful.” :lol

"I don’t have direct knowledge of this case. But I do know how federal prosecutors work.I think they had enough for an arrest before they got the warrant, but

they don’t know the extent of what it is. Now they’re filling in the blanks and tightening it up.

Because it all originated with Mueller. He went to the Southern District of New York
1
(https://qz.com/1256340/michael-cohen-how-the-feds-can-flip-him/#) and said, “Here’s what I have. I don’t have a mandate to prosecute Cohen, but I’ve learned about other crimes committed in SDNY.”"

“I’ve got Trump’s guy in my crosshairs. But politically it’s a big problem because it’s outside of my mandate.”

To go to the Southern District and get this warrant, you need an unbelievable amount of evidence. It’s a very high bar

—not just to search an attorney’s office, but the attorney of the president, and you have to show there’s a legitimate belief that contraband or instrumentalities of the crime will be present.

Practically, they would want to explain to the judge there’s a legitimate fear that the evidence might just disappear [with a subpoena]. (https://qz.com/1256340/michael-cohen-how-the-feds-can-flip-him/#)

If Cohen said “I’m going to take care of this for you,” then Trump is probably a co-conspirator.

Or if Trump says “just make her go away.”

Or, God forbid, Trump says “We can’t afford this right before the election.”

the Southern District of New York had way more than they needed to charge Cohen when they conducted the raid.

They had him dead to rights before they obtained the warrant.

The warrant application probably said,

“These are the crimes we believe Cohen has committed, and

we believe the evidence of these crimes is contained there, because

we have reason to believe he’s taping this conversations and

is keeping the notes and ledgers of these conversations in his office.” Now they’re sifting through what they have to put icing on the cake.

would expect they’re ready to do a reverse proffer
11
(https://qz.com/1256340/michael-cohen-how-the-feds-can-flip-him/#) with Cohen in August.

You’re going to want to get this right, because everybody’s watching.

August or September, they’ll sit down with Cohen’s criminal lawyer and lay out just how bad it really is.

You get through the door because

you’re looking at bank fraud,

then you’re like holy shit, this is tax fraud, or

money laundering, or

FCPA stuff
12
(https://qz.com/1256340/michael-cohen-how-the-feds-can-flip-him/#). Once the camel’s nose is under the tent, you can’t keep the camel out.

You sit down with Cohen’s people and say:

“We’re going to indict you on bank fraud,

on campaign finance violations,

on tax fraud,

on wire fraud, and on

obstruction of justice or

whatever else they found from the search.

We are 100% certain of a conviction on bank wire fraud, it’s as clear as the hand in front of your face. I’m definitely going to win on these.”

You make the pitch: “I’ve got you on this stuff. You’re either going to plead on this, or I’m going to indict you.”

And Cohen says, “if you’re going to indict me, why should I plead?”

And you say, “if you make us indict you and go to trial I’m also going to add the campaign finance and the tax fraud and who knows what else.

I won’t add this stuff if you plea, but your plea requires that you debrief on this other thing—POTUS (https://qz.com/1256340/michael-cohen-how-the-feds-can-flip-him/#)

2b1.1 (https://www.ussc.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/guidelines-manual/2016/GLMFull.pdf) is the section of the sentencing guideline that will drive the negotiations. Bank fraud, wire fraud, all of the frauds, the loss tables (https://www.ussc.gov/guidelines/primers/loss-calculation) lay out how the numbers drive the jail time. Over $100,000, over a million, etc.

If your house is worth $1 million, the fraud could be $1 million.

What the government is allowed to use for a loss is so, so unfair. It’s not actual loss, it’s potential loss, the biggest number that it’s touching.

The tax fraud, it’s not the $5,000 you cheated on, it’s the $500,000 you filed on.

“If you are convicted,

we’re going to get a restitution order and take every goddamn thing you own: your house, your car, your watch.”

if you agree to forfeit $150,000 and plead to bank fraud and cooperate, then you could be looking at any sentence, even probation. That’s

cooperation credit, 5k1.1 (https://www.ussc.gov/guidelines/2015-guidelines-manual/2015-chapter-5), what they call substantial assistance to the prosecution.

Almost every federal judge in the country will follow a sentencing recommendation on the guidelines and

if Cohen is looking at a big number, he is going to go to jail.

The only way to get out of that is to get the cooperation credit.

I’ve had a guy go from a guideline range of 30 years to a sentence of probation because he pled and cooperated.

.... etc, etc.

https://qz.com/1256340/michael-cohen-how-the-feds-can-flip-him/

:corn::corn::corn::corn::corn::corn::corn:

boutons_deux
04-21-2018, 06:18 PM
Fusion GPS founders explain Trump’s biggest fears for the New York Times — it’s not Stormy or Russia

the founders of Fusion GPS—the people who hired “pee tape” dossier author Christopher Steele—think that’s what Trump is fearing right now,

“A string of bankruptcies in the 1990s and 2000s may have left Mr. Trump’s companies largely unable to tap traditional sources of financing,”

“That could have forced him to look elsewhere for financing and partners at a time when money was pouring out of the former Soviet Union.”

“But a comprehensive investigation could raise questions about the Trump Organization’s

compliance with anti-money-laundering laws and

the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, which —

according to the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Department of Justice —

makes it a crime for a United States company to act with willful blindness toward the corrupt activities of a foreign business partner,”

Fusion “pored over Donald Trump’s business records for well over a year, at least those records you can get without a badge or a subpoena.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/04/fusion-gps-founders-explain-trumps-biggest-fears-new-york-times-not-stormy-russia/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

TSA
04-22-2018, 11:43 AM
988063359462465537
Pavlov how you going to spin the latest EC revelations?

The Unraveling

Reck
04-22-2018, 11:45 AM
Do I even bother?


One last time then.... Nunes :lmao

Pavlov
04-22-2018, 12:10 PM
988063359462465537
Pavlov how you going to spin the latest EC revelations?

The UnravelingWhat's your conspiracy theory here?

I don't see anyone actually challenging the story about Papadopoulos. Again they're just mad the story got out.

boutons_deux
04-22-2018, 12:12 PM
totally lacking in details,

"we do know" ? :lol

"information"? :lol

so as to inspire Fox viewers' conspiracies.

scumbag Nunes? G M A F B

Fox? :lol

Pavlov
04-22-2018, 12:31 PM
I really don't get where Nunes is trying to go here. Of course there wasn't any Five Eyes agency involved because no one was spying on Papadopoulos. Dude sat there and bragged directly to an Australian diplomat. No shit State would probably get wind of that at some point and it's been clearly reported that the Australian ambassador to the US was at least one of the people who helped get the information to the FBI, so State certainly could be a part of that chain as well.

It would help immensely if TSA would explain his conspiracy theory clearly. That won't happen.

boutons_deux
04-22-2018, 01:26 PM
Michael Cohen Has Said He Would Take a Bullet for Trump. Maybe Not Anymore.

That one-sidedness has always been at the heart of President Trump’s relationship with

his longtime lawyer and fixer, Michael D. Cohen,
who has said he would “take a bullet” for Mr. Trump.

For years

Mr. Trump treated Mr. Cohen poorly, with gratuitous insults, dismissive statements and, at least twice, threats of being fired,

according to interviews with a half-dozen people familiar with their relationship.

“Donald goes out of his way to treat him like garbage,” said Roger J. Stone Jr.,

Mr. Trump’s informal and longest-serving political adviser, who, along with Mr. Cohen, was one of five people originally surrounding the president when he was considering a presidential campaign before 2016.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/20/us/politics/trump-michael-cohen.html#click=https://t.co/M34kkP0sQb

So I wonder how many $Ms that 3rd rate lawyer Cohen, The Best People, has pocketed while being Trash's whipping boy?

TSA
04-22-2018, 01:51 PM
I really don't get where Nunes is trying to go here. Of course there wasn't any Five Eyes agency involved because no one was spying on Papadopoulos. Dude sat there and bragged directly to an Australian diplomat. No shit State would probably get wind of that at some point and it's been clearly reported that the Australian ambassador to the US was at least one of the people who helped get the information to the FBI, so State certainly could be a part of that chain as well.

It would help immensely if TSA would explain his conspiracy theory clearly. That won't happen.

There was no official intelligence product used to open an investigation targeting Trump.

Pavlov
04-22-2018, 01:55 PM
There was no official intelligence product used to open an investigation targeting Trump.Not from Five Eyes, no. Papadopoulos wasn't being spied upon by anyone.

The story of how the information got from Papadopoulos' mouth to the FBI's desk is fairly well known.

What is your conspiracy theory, TSA?

Chris
04-22-2018, 01:57 PM
There was no official intelligence product used to open an investigation targeting Trump.

Everyone knows you don't fuck with Australian diplomats. Investigations every time!

Spurminator
04-22-2018, 01:58 PM
There was no official intelligence product used to open an investigation targeting Trump.

I see you've been given today's talking point.

Is it a requirement that investigations begin with official intelligence products?

Pavlov
04-22-2018, 01:58 PM
Everyone knows you don't fuck with Australian ambassadors. Investigations every time!Every time you brag to them you have contacts with Russians to influence the US presidential election, yes.

What is your conspiracy theory here, Chris?

Pavlov
04-22-2018, 02:26 PM
There was no official intelligence product used to open an investigation targeting Trump.


Everyone knows you don't fuck with Australian diplomats. Investigations every time!
GCHQ first became aware in late 2015 of suspicious “interactions” between figures connected to Trump and known or suspected Russian agents, a source close to UK intelligence said. This intelligence was passed to the US as part of a routine exchange of information, they added.

Over the next six months, until summer 2016, a number of western agencies shared further information on contacts between Trump’s inner circle and Russians, sources said.

The European countries that passed on electronic intelligence – known as sigint – included Germany, Estonia and Poland. Australia, a member of the “Five Eyes” spying alliance that also includes the US, UK, Canada and New Zealand, also relayed material, one source said.

Another source suggested the Dutch and the French spy agency, the General Directorate for External Security or DGSE, were contributors.

It is understood that GCHQ was at no point carrying out a targeted operation against Trump or his team or proactively seeking information. The alleged conversations were picked up by chance as part of routine surveillance of Russian intelligence assets. Over several months, different agencies targeting the same people began to see a pattern of connections that were flagged to intelligence officials in the US.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/apr/13/british-spies-first-to-spot-trump-team-links-russia


I mean that's like seven different countries right there.

My question to each of you is this: What is your conspiracy theory that accounts for all this sigint AND the Papadopoulos story?

Hillary did it?

TSA
04-22-2018, 04:31 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/apr/13/british-spies-first-to-spot-trump-team-links-russia


I mean that's like seven different countries right there.

My question to each of you is this: What is your conspiracy theory that accounts for all this sigint AND the Papadopoulos story?

Hillary did it?

None of that was in the EC. There was no official intelligence product used to open an investigation targeting Trump.

Pavlov
04-22-2018, 04:33 PM
None of that was in the EC. There was no official intelligence product used to open an investigation targeting Trump.Dodge #1.

What is your conspiracy theory regarding all this sigint and the blabbening?

TSA
04-22-2018, 05:03 PM
Dodge #1.

What is your conspiracy theory regarding all this sigint and the blabbening?

This isn’t a theory. There was no official intelligence product used to open an investigation targeting Trump.

Pavlov
04-22-2018, 05:07 PM
This isn’t a theory. There was no official intelligence product used to open an investigation targeting Trump.What exactly is the problem with that?

Does it have to be "official"?

What makes intel "official"?

Walk me through the process that every piece of intel must go through to be legitimately used in an investigation.

Provide links.

I predict you will not do anything of the sort.

Pavlov
04-22-2018, 05:10 PM
Seven countries provided intel that started in the investigation on the Trump/Russia connection which actually did exist and TSA is concerned with some kind of paperwork technicality.

lol

Spurminator
04-22-2018, 05:20 PM
What exactly is the problem with that?

Does it have to be "official"?

What makes intel "official"?

Walk me through the process that every piece of intel must go through to be legitimately used in an investigation.

Provide links.

I predict you will not do anything of the sort.

He was only given the talking point, not the rationale for the talking point.

Pavlov
04-22-2018, 05:23 PM
He was only given the talking point, not the rationale for the talking point.IT WASN'T NOTARIZED SO MUELLER MUST BE FIRED

Chris
04-22-2018, 05:27 PM
lol "all this sigint"

Pavlov
04-22-2018, 05:36 PM
lol "all this sigint"Yes, sigint from seven countries plus the Papadopoulos story.

The quote and link were provided for you.

What is your conspiracy theory, Chris?

DarrinS
04-22-2018, 05:37 PM
Damn. ChumpDumpsterfire’s alt has already half my 13 year post count. MFer lives here. :lol

Pavlov
04-22-2018, 05:39 PM
Damn. ChumpDumpsterfire’s alt has already half my 13 year post count. MFer lives here. :lol:lol I actually have takes, Darrin.

DarrinS
04-22-2018, 05:40 PM
:lol I actually have schticks, Darrin.

Fify

Chris
04-22-2018, 06:03 PM
Already posted



Timeline of events...
Here's the long version:

1. The DNC believes the only threat to a Clinton presidency is Bernie Sanders.

2. The DNC rigs the Democratic Primary Election against Sanders.

3. Trump gains popular support, has large rallies, emerges as probable Republican nominee. Clinton becomes concerned.

4. June 27, 2016, Bill Clinton meets in secret with AG Loretta Lynch at Phoenix Airport.

5. July 2016, Obama administration seeks FISA court surveillance of Trump, his family, his transition team, and associates using the pretext that normal pre-election contacts between the Trump transition team and other nations is suspicious.

6. The Court reviews the application and denies it.

7. Donna Brazil advances Clinton presidential debate questions on at least one occasion

8. The DNC, Obama Administration, and HRC need more probable cause to return before the FISA Court.

9. The DNC and HRC through their law firm Perkins Coie and research firm Fusion GPS pay Trump hating former British MI6 agent and active FBI informant Christopher Steele to come up with dirt on Trump.

10. In September, 2016 Steele begins “secretly” meeting with the mainstream media to propagate the story of Trump/Russian election collusion with the approval of the DNC/HRC.

11. On October 7, 2016, the mainstream media releases a taped conversation about Trump talking about grabbing pussy.

12. Between June and December 2016, Steele fabricates the “Trump Dossier” in segments which the FBI calls “Salacious and Unverified,” Steele is labeled as a fraud and further terminated as an FBI informant for having meetings with the press.

13. Despite Steele being labeled an “unreliable source” by the FBI, he maintains contact with Assistant Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr (and others at the FBI). Ohr’s wife Nellie, like Steele, is being paid with DNC/HRC money by Fusion GPS to “investigate” Trump.

14. On October 21, 2016, the FBI uses the Trump Dossier as probable cause to get a 90 day Federal (FISA) Court Order to wiretap Trump. The FBI renews the order 3 times over the course of the next 270 days despite Steele’s known lack of credibility, his personal animus and political agenda, without confirming the substance of the report, and knowing that it had been purchased by the DNC and Clinton campaign.

15. The FBI fails all 4 times to inform the Federal Judges who issued the FISA orders that the probable cause being presented was unverified, came from a discredited source, came from a source with personal animus and a political motivation, or had been purchased by the DNC and Clinton campaign.

16. FBI Director Comey signed and swore before the Federal Court that the probable cause presented to wiretap Trump was true on 3 occasions. Deputy Director McCabe did so once on behalf of the FBI.

17. Deputy Director McCabe was the chief investigator of the HRC e-mail scandal. McCabe’s wife, Jill, had received a $700,000 “donation” from the HRC in a failed run for a Virginia senate seat in 2015.

18. Deputy Attorney Generals for the DOJ Sally Yates, Dana Boente, and Rod Rosenstein each signed and swore before the Federal Court that the probable cause presented to wiretap Trump was true at least once.

19. Trump wins the General Election.

20. On December 29, 2016, Obama tries to give the ruse of Russian election interference credibility by expelling 35 Russian diplomats from the US.

21. Obama changes Executive Order 12333 to allow more agencies to have access to surveillance data.

22. In January 2017, the House Intelligence Committee announces its investigation into Russian election interference and cyber attacks.

23. On January 10, 2017, the Trump Dossier is leaked to the press.

24. On January 20, 2017, Trump takes office.

25. On January 30, 2017, Acting AG Yates is fired by Trump for refusing to obey a lawful executive order on immigration.

26. On May 9, 2017, Trump fires Comey for obstructing the HRC e-mail investigation.

27. On May 16, 2017, former FBI director Robert Mueller interviews with Trump for reappointment as FBI Director.

28. On May 17, 2017, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein appoints former Obama FBI Director and Comey confidant Robert Mueller as Special Counsel to investigate collusion between Russia and the Trump Campaign to influence the 2016 presidential election.

29. In July 2017, lead FBI Agent Peter Strzok is removed from the Mueller team after text messages between Strzok and his mistress, FBI attorney Lisa Page, reveal strong HRC sentiments and deep-seated bias toward Trump, the orchestration of leaks to the media, and a possible conspiracy, or “secret society” of McCabe and top FBI officials gathered to fix the 2016 election and later, impeach Trump.

30. Strzok was a lead investigator in the HRC e-mail scandal.

31. Mueller fails to inform Congress of the Strzok/Page matter.

32. On December 3, 2017, Congress threatens to hold Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and FBI Director Christopher Wray in contempt of Congress after months of refusing to produce records to the House Intelligence Committee investigating FBI/DOJ corruption associated with the Trump Dossier.

33. On December 7, 2017, it is revealed Mueller team member attorney Jeannie Rhee defended the Clinton Foundation in 2015 against a racketeering lawsuit brought by Freedom Watch, and personally represented Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in a lawsuit seeking access to her private emails.

34. On December 13, 2017, a portion of the Strzok/Page texts are released, but the FBI claims that 5 months of key text messages were lost due to a computer glitch. The IG recovers them in 2 days.

35. On December 22, 2017. McCabe testifies under oath to Congress that the FISA warrants used to wiretap Trump never would have been possible without the fake Trump Dossier.

36. The HIC makes public that it has summarized its investigation to date in a 4 page memo form. Stiff resistance to its release is raised by DNC and the FBI.

37. On January 28, 2018, FBI director Wray and Agents from the bureau’s counterintelligence division and legal division review the Memo and cannot point to any factual inaccuracies.

38. McCabe promptly steps down.

39. On February 2, 2018, the 4 page “FISA” Memo is released.

Pavlov
04-22-2018, 06:12 PM
Already postedWhere does all the information from the seven different countries fit in there?

Chris
04-22-2018, 06:16 PM
:cry muh 7 countries :cry

:cry muh sigint :cry

Pavlov
04-22-2018, 07:03 PM
:cry muh 7 countries :cry

:cry muh sigint :cryYour white flag.

Chris
04-22-2018, 07:26 PM
Comrade Cuomo (D) bought and paid for.

988206745418842112

Pavlov
04-22-2018, 07:51 PM
Comrade Cuomo (D) bought and paid for.

988206745418842112
Stiles, who teaches espionage and national security issues in Virginia Tech’s geography department, defines espionage, or spying, as “an operation that is planned and executed as to conceal the identity of, or permit plausible denial by, the sponsor.”"adoptions"

Chris
04-22-2018, 08:03 PM
988089548914688002

Nunes must have missed the 7 countries and the sigint. Pavlov you should contact him with your revelations.

https://nunes.house.gov/contact/

AaronY
04-22-2018, 08:05 PM
Comrade Cuomo (D) bought and paid for.

988206745418842112
lol "I know you are but what am I?!?"

boutons_deux
04-23-2018, 10:08 AM
Trump Says Flare Up Of Bone Spurs May Keep Him From Appearing Before Mueller

President was advised by Rudy Giuliani, newest member of legal team, to use old medical condition to buy time with investigators

“The president has been hobbled for the past few weeks with a flare-up of bone spurs in his heels,

the same condition that caused him, sadly, to miss military service during the Vietnam War,”

said Mr. Giuliani during a press conference at the White House on Friday.

“I’ve spoken to his doctors who tell me

there is no way President Trump can sit before Bob Mueller’s investigators in the kind of pain he’s in right now.

We’ll have to postpone any interview until later in the year.”

https://extranewsfeed.com/trump-says-flare-up-of-bone-spurs-may-keep-him-from-appearing-before-mueller-f95a4a72d703

boutons_deux
04-23-2018, 01:04 PM
This One Idiot Pretty Sure James Comey Framed Trump For All His Russian Pee Crimes

https://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/trumppee-1.jpg

https://wonkette.com/632955/this-one-idiot-pretty-sure-james-comey-framed-trump-for-all-his-russian-pee-crimes

Y'll rightwingnutjobs should adore this Hemingway lady's conspiracy bullshit.

FuzzyLumpkins
04-23-2018, 05:24 PM
Trump Told Comey He Wasn’t in Moscow Long Enough to Make a Pee Tape. He Lied.

According to James Comey, when he met with Donald Trump in 2017, the incoming president denied allegations that he had hired prostitutes to urinate on a bed once used by President Obama. Trump’s denial, according to Comey, leaned heavily on his claim that he never even spent the night in Moscow. Instead, claimed Trump, he “departed for New York by plane that same night.”


Reporting, combined with and social-media posts by Trump and his entourage during the trip, has cast a lot of doubt on Trump’s version of this story. Bloomberg News has obtained an additional piece of information disproving Trump’s alibi. Flight records show that Trump arrived in Moscow on early Friday morning, November 8, 2013. He departed early Sunday morning, November 10. Trump absolutely had enough time for a golden showers performance if he had wanted to have one.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/04/flight-records-disprove-trumps-main-alibi-for-the-pee-tape.html

DarrinS
04-23-2018, 07:06 PM
muhPeeTape

Pavlov
04-23-2018, 07:08 PM
muhPeeTapeI don't even think the tape exists. Trump just had to lie about Russia again tho.:lmao

clambake
04-23-2018, 07:51 PM
He was only given the talking point, not the rationale for the talking point.

still holding up a day later.

DarrinS
04-24-2018, 08:58 AM
Byron York: Is 'can't prove untrue' new standard in Trump probe?

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/byron-york-is-cant-prove-untrue-new-standard-in-trump-probe

Mikeanaro
04-24-2018, 09:02 AM
Byron York: Is 'can't prove untrue' new standard in Trump probe?

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/byron-york-is-cant-prove-untrue-new-standard-in-trump-probe
Fucking freaks, imagine if the same happened to Oboyo, all media screaming for his head without any evidence 24/7.

djohn2oo8
04-24-2018, 09:24 AM
988612763999072256
Christ!

dabom
04-24-2018, 11:46 AM
988612763999072256
Christ!

Wtf the fuck. :wow

:lol

Pavlov
04-24-2018, 11:49 AM
988612763999072256
Christ!NO NO NO THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF SUPER SECRET INDICTMENTS AGAINST CLINTON AND OBAMA I READ A BLOG

RandomGuy
04-24-2018, 03:06 PM
Fusion GPS founders explain Trump’s biggest fears for the New York Times — it’s not Stormy or Russia

the founders of Fusion GPS—the people who hired “pee tape” dossier author Christopher Steele—think that’s what Trump is fearing right now,

“A string of bankruptcies in the 1990s and 2000s may have left Mr. Trump’s companies largely unable to tap traditional sources of financing,”

“That could have forced him to look elsewhere for financing and partners at a time when money was pouring out of the former Soviet Union.”

“But a comprehensive investigation could raise questions about the Trump Organization’s

compliance with anti-money-laundering laws and

the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, which —

according to the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Department of Justice —

makes it a crime for a United States company to act with willful blindness toward the corrupt activities of a foreign business partner,”

Fusion “pored over Donald Trump’s business records for well over a year, at least those records you can get without a badge or a subpoena.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/04/fusion-gps-founders-explain-trumps-biggest-fears-new-york-times-not-stormy-russia/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29



They are entirely correct. The risk factors are all there.

I am going to guess that this will come out eventually. Too many people are looking into it for it to stay secret.

RandomGuy
04-24-2018, 03:13 PM
Wtf the fuck. :wow

:lol

redaction redaction redaction "In Particular" redaction redaction redaction Heh

Chris
04-24-2018, 03:56 PM
988823268114292736

Reck
04-24-2018, 03:57 PM
988823268114292736

And?

Chris
04-24-2018, 04:05 PM
And?

Don't @ me faggot you're on the list

Pavlov
04-24-2018, 04:07 PM
988823268114292736*ding*

Don't know what the big deal is; Hillary was already executed for Benghazi.

Blake
04-24-2018, 04:08 PM
Don't @ me faggot you're on the list

Lol a list

Splits
04-24-2018, 04:11 PM
:cry ilovemyfreedom dot ORG :cry

:lmao

Pavlov
04-24-2018, 04:19 PM
EXTREME VETTING IS EXTREME
988852356417769474

Chris
04-24-2018, 04:32 PM
:cry ihatemyfreedom.org :cry
:cry fuck America and fuck DRUMPF :cry
:cry give me free shit :cry
:cry it's ok to kill babies :cry
:cry give us money to kill babies :cry

Pavlov
04-24-2018, 04:33 PM
:cry ihatemyfreedom.org :cry
:cry fuck America and fuck DRUMPF :cry
:cry give me free shit :cry
:cry it's ok to kill babies :cry
:cry give us money to kill babies :crylol meltdown

Reck
04-24-2018, 04:51 PM
Don't @ me faggot you're on the list

:lmao Chris melting down for no reason.

boutons_deux
04-24-2018, 05:18 PM
‘The kids have gone underground’: Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump are in hiding as Mueller nears the Oval Office

“New court filings from Mueller’s office confirmed investigators were in fact searching for documents related to the now-infamous Trump Tower meeting, among other things,” Wallace noted.

“The filings also reveal that [Paul] Manafort was interviewed twice by the FBI while he was working as a political consultant in Ukraine years before he joined Trump’s campaign.”



“Let me put up for the viewers some of the

people that were involved are

Donald Trump, Jr., the president’s son;

Jared Kushner;

Paul Manafort, who has been charged with — is facing dozens of charges at this point, and

five other people connected to Russian lobbyists, many with ties to the Kremlin,” she noted.

“Bob Mueller has shown no reluctance to charge people close to the president,

nor has he shown any reluctance to charge people close to the Kremlin.”

“Obviously, Jared Kushner’s interactions with foreign leaders under heavy scrutiny by the Mueller probe,”

Wallace noted.

“We don’t know if it is by other jurisdictions as well.”

“The word I hear is that the kids have gone underground,” she reported.

“What do you hear about what Jared and Ivanka are up to? ”

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/04/kids-gone-underground-jared-kushner-ivanka-trump-hiding-mueller-nears-oval-office/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Chris
04-24-2018, 05:32 PM
988900256975872003


https://media1.tenor.com/images/a6c0d89f503a5d4796c890a770311093/tenor.gif?itemid=6233544

Pavlov
04-24-2018, 05:44 PM
988900256975872003


https://media1.tenor.com/images/a6c0d89f503a5d4796c890a770311093/tenor.gif?itemid=6233544Heavy breathing *ding*

boutons_deux
04-24-2018, 05:51 PM
Repugs witch-hunting two FBI bureaucratic fuck buddies? To prove that Mueller and the entire FBI are illegit? :lol

Pavlov
04-24-2018, 05:53 PM
Repugs witch-hunting two FBI bureaucratic fuck buddies? To prove that Mueller and the entire FBI are illegit? :lolTo bring Susan Rice down once and for all before we decide she good again.

Chris
04-24-2018, 05:56 PM
Pavlov and boots - birds of a feather.

boutons_deux
04-24-2018, 06:42 PM
Pulitzer-winning reporter: “The evidence suggests Trump is a traitor” (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/4/23/1759261/-Pulitzer-winning-reporter-The-evidence-suggests-Trump-is-a-traitor)

As Malcolm Nance and others have warned,

Russia's interference in the 2016 election and likely infiltration of Trump's inner circle

could be one of the worst intelligence disasters in American history,

a failure of Benedict Arnold or Rosenberg proportions.

Let me be very clear and quotable about this.

At an absolute minimum, Donald Trump has divided loyalties,

and the evidence we already have suggests that

Donald Trump is a traitor.

In fact, I would say that the evidence we already have,

the public materials such as emails for example,

strongly indicate that Donald Trump is a traitor.

However, I don't even think he understands what he's done. :lol Trash is goddamn fucking stupid, ignorant asshole

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/4/23/1759261/-Pulitzer-winning-reporter-The-evidence-suggests-Trump-is-a-traitor?detail=emaildkre

boutons_deux
04-25-2018, 09:21 AM
Bezos Says That When Pee Tape Is Released It Will Be Free for All Amazon Prime Members

https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5adf42b3b4e23f01a4a1164b/master/w_1298,c_limit/Borowitz-Amazons-New-Product.jpg

SEATTLE —Jeff Bezos, the founder of Amazon, announced on Tuesday that when the purported “pee tape” becomes available it will be offered free to all Amazon Prime members.

Speaking to reporters in Seattle, Bezos said that the pee-tape offer was

“consistent with Amazon’s mandate to offer the highest-quality content to our customers.”
Bezos acknowledged that the

tape had not surfaced yet, but said that Amazon was “working around the clock to make that happen.”

Bezos’s offer drew a mixed response from Prime members, with some begging Amazon not to offer the pee tape to them.

Over all, though,

interest in the tape was robust, as pre-orders for the item quickly made it the highest-ranking product on the entire Amazon site.

According to its product page, customers who bought the pee tape also bought “A Higher Loyalty (https://www.amazon.com/dp/1250192455/?tag=thneyo0f-20)” by James Comey.

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/bezos-says-that-when-pee-tape-is-released-it-will-be-free-for-all-amazon-prime-members?mbid=nl_Borowitz%20042418&CNDID=43758549&spMailingID=13376052&spUserID=MTQzNTk4NzA3ODYzS0&spJobID=1382107284&spReportId=MTM4MjEwNzI4NAS2 (https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/bezos-says-that-when-pee-tape-is-released-it-will-be-free-for-all-amazon-prime-members?mbid=nl_Borowitz%20042418&CNDID=43758549&spMailingID=13376052&spUserID=MTQzNTk4NzA3ODYzS0&spJobID=1382107284&spReportId=MTM4MjEwNzI4NAS2)

RandomGuy
04-25-2018, 10:04 AM
:cry ihatemyfreedom.org :cry
:cry fuck America and fuck DRUMPF :cry
:cry give me free shit :cry
:cry it's ok to kill babies :cry
:cry give us money to kill babies :cry

Wow. that was a meltdown.

You ok?

RandomGuy
04-25-2018, 10:06 AM
None of that was in the EC. There was no official intelligence product used to open an investigation targeting Trump.

https://www.vox.com/first-person/2018/4/24/17271060/modern-militia-movement-90s-guns

boutons_deux
04-25-2018, 11:31 AM
BREAKING NOW!!

Trump Children Agree To Flip On Father In Exchange For Clemency

Three siblings say they’re negotiating with Robert Mueller’s office to rat out president in exchange for reduced sentences


Reports out of Washington on Monday suggest that Donald Jr., Ivanka, and Eric Trump will flip on their father in the next few days in exchange for clemency in the sentencing phase of the Mueller probe.

“My clients have decided that, for the good of the country, they will cooperate with special counsel Robert Mueller in the obstruction of justice case against their father, President Donald Trump,” announced Morris Chilton, a lawyer who is representing all three Trump scions.

“My clients are able to produce evidence to investigators that incriminates their father in no less than six impeachable crimes.”


The eldest Trump children celebrate a negotiated agreement with Robert Mueller’s office that will allow them to get suspended sentences. (Credit: www.newsmax.com)]

Mr. Chilton said that the Trump siblings have agreed, in part,

to reveal the location of a secret family vault containing promissory notes for $2.3 billion signed by Donald Trump with Vladimir Putin as the assignee.


https://extranewsfeed.com/trump-children-agree-to-flip-on-father-in-exchange-for-clemency-e32547e4aab9

DarrinS
04-25-2018, 11:36 AM
Boutons just dumping unfunny satire now

spurraider21
04-25-2018, 12:14 PM
Boutons just dumping unfunny satire now
:lol "now"

TSA
04-25-2018, 01:14 PM
https://www.vox.com/first-person/2018/4/24/17271060/modern-militia-movement-90s-guns

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/09/the-rise-of-the-violent-left/534192/

TSA
04-25-2018, 01:19 PM
Greg Craig, the White House counsel for President Barack Obama, abruptly left his law firm as it has come under scrutiny from the special counsel’s investigation.

A spokeswoman for Skadden Arps confirmed to The Daily Caller News Foundation that Craig is no longer with the firm. She did not address whether his departure is related to Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation.

The website Above the Law first reported on Tuesday that Craig’s biography had been removed from Skadden Arps’ website.

Skadden Arps has come under scrutiny because of its work with Paul Manafort, the former Trump campaign chairman, on behalf of the Ukrainian government in 2012. A team led by Craig helped produce a report that sought to justify the imprisonment of Yulia Tymoshenko, a political rival of Viktor Yanukovych, the Ukrainian president at the time and an ally of Vladimir Putin’s.

Mueller has indicted Manafort on charges of conspiracy against the U.S., conspiracy to launder money and failing to register as a foreign agent.

http://amp.dailycaller.com/2018/04/24/obama-lawyer-mueller-manafort/?%20dailycallerDR%20%28The%20Daily%20Caller%20-%20DeploReport%29&__twitter_impression=true

Pavlov
04-25-2018, 01:34 PM
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/09/the-rise-of-the-violent-left/534192/Are you still trying to pin every high profile murder on Antifa these days?


Greg Craig, the White House counsel for President Barack Obama, abruptly left his law firm as it has come under scrutiny from the special counsel’s investigation.

A spokeswoman for Skadden Arps confirmed to The Daily Caller News Foundation that Craig is no longer with the firm. She did not address whether his departure is related to Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation.

The website Above the Law first reported on Tuesday that Craig’s biography had been removed from Skadden Arps’ website.

Skadden Arps has come under scrutiny because of its work with Paul Manafort, the former Trump campaign chairman, on behalf of the Ukrainian government in 2012. A team led by Craig helped produce a report that sought to justify the imprisonment of Yulia Tymoshenko, a political rival of Viktor Yanukovych, the Ukrainian president at the time and an ally of Vladimir Putin’s.

Mueller has indicted Manafort on charges of conspiracy against the U.S., conspiracy to launder money and failing to register as a foreign agent.

http://amp.dailycaller.com/2018/04/24/obama-lawyer-mueller-manafort/?%20dailycallerDR%20%28The%20Daily%20Caller%20-%20DeploReport%29&__twitter_impression=trueWhat's your conspiracy theory here, TSA?

boutons_deux
04-25-2018, 02:05 PM
Former Obama lawyer Greg Craig leaves firm after brush with Mueller probe

Craig supervised Alex van der Zwaan,

who has pleaded guilty to lying

about communications regarding his work for Ukrainian politicians.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/former-obama-lawyer-greg-craig-leaves-firm-after-brush-mueller-n868786

Perhaps Mueller wanted to question Craig, if he and Skadden knew about VdZ's Ukraine shenanigans?

boutons_deux
04-25-2018, 04:01 PM
What’s Robert Mueller’s next big move? Here are 9 possibilities.

Recent reports suggest intriguing possibilities for where the investigation is going.

Robert Mueller’s investigation could go in a lot of different directions

1) The email hacking and leaks:

The theft of John Podesta’s, the DNC’s, and other political figures’ (mainly Democrats’) emails is a crime that we know happened in 2016. Mueller has reportedly taken charge of (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/mueller-eyes-charges-against-russians-who-stole-spread-democrats-emails-n852291) the investigation of this crime. And the Daily Beast recently wrote (https://www.thedailybeast.com/exclusive-lone-dnc-hacker-guccifer-20-slipped-up-and-revealed-he-was-a-russian-intelligence-officer) that investigators have identified a specific Russian intelligence officer behind “Guccifer 2.0,” a leading online persona in the hacks.

2) Trump’s business dealings in Russia and other countries:

In mid-March, the New York Times reported (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/15/us/politics/trump-organization-subpoena-mueller-russia.html) that Mueller had recently subpoenaed the Trump Organization for documents “related to Russia and other topics he is investigating,” in the clearest sign yet that Trump’s business has come under Mueller’s scrutiny.

3) Russian oligarchs’ money flowing into politics:

An eyebrow-raising pair of reports from CNN (https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/04/politics/mueller-special-counsel-investigation-russian-oligarchs/index.html) and the New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/04/us/politics/george-nader-russia-uae-special-counsel-investigation.html) earlier in April revealed that Mueller’s team has questioned at least two Russian oligarchs when they’ve visited the United States — and even seized and searched one’s electronic devices.

3) Russian oligarchs’ money flowing into politics:

An eyebrow-raising pair of reports from CNN (https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/04/politics/mueller-special-counsel-investigation-russian-oligarchs/index.html) and the New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/04/us/politics/george-nader-russia-uae-special-counsel-investigation.html) earlier in April revealed that Mueller’s team has questioned at least two Russian oligarchs when they’ve visited the United States — and even seized and searched one’s electronic devices.

5) The Trump campaign’s digital operation:

Given the well-documented Russian digital effort to boost Trump’s chances, there have long been broader questions (https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/09/jared-kushner-data-operation-russia-facebook) about whether Trump’s digital operation collaborated in this effort in some way. However, when Mueller charged (https://www.vox.com/2018/2/16/17020966/russia-indictments-mueller-internet-research-agency) 13 Russian individuals and three Russian companies with crimes related to a propaganda effort designed to interfere with the 2016 campaign, he did not allege any “witting” participation from Trump’s team.

6) The Steele Dossier’s claims:

The major specific claims in Christopher Steele’s infamous document — that Trump is vulnerable to sexual blackmail (https://www.vox.com/2018/4/15/17233994/comey-interview-trump-pee-tape-russia) by the Russian government, that the Trump campaign and Russia conspired together about the hacked DNC emails, that Carter Page (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/2/16956014/nunes-memo-carter-page) was involved in collusion, and that Michael Cohen traveled to Prague (https://www.vox.com/2018/4/13/17236660/michael-cohen-prague-trump-steele-dossier) to meet with Russians about paying hackers — still remain largely uncorroborated (https://www.vox.com/2018/1/5/16845704/steele-dossier-russia-trump) and heatedly denied by all parties.

7) Other potential charges against Paul Manafort:

Mueller has already charged Manafort with a combined 23 counts of conspiracy, money laundering, false statements, tax fraud, bank fraud, and other charges — but he may not be done with the former Trump campaign chair yet.

8) Jared Kushner’s business and foreign policy (and Russia):

There have long been questions about whether presidential son-in-law and senior White House adviser Jared Kushner has inappropriately mixed the concerns of his family real estate business with his high-level foreign policy job.

9) The obstruction report/Trump interview:

Last but certainly not least, it’s long been known that Mueller has been investigating whether President Trump obstructed justice while in office — by discouraging an FBI investigation into Michael Flynn, by firing FBI director James Comey, by pressuring (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/23/us/politics/jeff-sessions-special-counsel-russia.html) Attorney General Jeff Sessions not to recuse himself, by dictating a highly misleading story (https://www.vox.com/world/2017/9/13/16295236/mueller-trump-letter-july-8-intent) about Don Jr.’s Trump Tower meeting, and by floating pardons for witnesses.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/4/25/17274170/mueller-investigation-trump-russia (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/4/25/17274170/mueller-investigation-trump-russia)

RandomGuy
04-25-2018, 04:43 PM
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/09/the-rise-of-the-violent-left/534192/

Read through it. Interesting article with some good points.

I wonder when you will wake up out of your echo chamber though, and realize how much you are lied to.

boutons_deux
04-25-2018, 04:48 PM
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...t-left/534192/ (https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/09/the-rise-of-the-violent-left/534192/)

wonderful, lefties gotta show the TSA/KKK/Nazi/fascists that lefties know how to push back and kick ass.

Chris
04-25-2018, 07:35 PM
I wonder when you will wake up out of your echo chamber though, and realize how much you are lied to.

Amazingly ironic and apropos at the same time.

TSA
04-26-2018, 11:31 AM
989513955617001474

RandomGuy
04-26-2018, 12:04 PM
989513955617001474

"may have" :rollin

The allegations may have Clinton bla bla bla Clinton bla Benghai bla. :rollin

Pavlov
04-26-2018, 12:09 PM
989513955617001474
Clinton may have eaten dead babies.

TSA
04-26-2018, 12:10 PM
"may have" :rollin

The allegations may have Clinton bla bla bla Clinton bla Benghai bla. :rollin

From the horses mouth

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/devin-nunes-is-investigating-me-heres-the-truth/2018/02/08/cc621170-0cf4-11e8-8b0d-891602206fb7_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.15b3f86ca16d

Pavlov
04-26-2018, 12:31 PM
From the horses mouth

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/devin-nunes-is-investigating-me-heres-the-truth/2018/02/08/cc621170-0cf4-11e8-8b0d-891602206fb7_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.15b3f86ca16dYeah, that disproves your conspiracy theory and supports all the previous reporting.

lol PeeSA

RandomGuy
04-26-2018, 12:49 PM
From the horses mouth

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/devin-nunes-is-investigating-me-heres-the-truth/2018/02/08/cc621170-0cf4-11e8-8b0d-891602206fb7_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.15b3f86ca16d

Nunes.... :lmao

Nunes should stick to fucking cows. Allegedly.

RandomGuy
04-26-2018, 12:51 PM
Clinton may have eaten dead babies.

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/10724355/Screen_Shot_2018_04_26_at_10.56.46_AM.png
https://www.vox.com/2018/4/26/17284898/trump-fox-and-friends-michael-cohen-court


Guess whose statements are already being used in court filings against Cohen?

:rollin

PEESA's hero is stepping in number two.

TSA
04-26-2018, 12:51 PM
Yeah, that disproves your conspiracy theory and supports all the previous reporting.

lol PeeSA

Blumenthal was feeding State Department the Shearer memo. State Department was feeding Steele the Shearer memo. Steele was feeding FBI the Shearer memo.
Steele was feeding State Department the Steele memo. State Department was feeding FBI the Steele memo.

Do you dispute any of that?

RandomGuy
04-26-2018, 12:52 PM
Blumenthal was feeding State Department the Shearer memo. State Department was feeding Steele the Shearer memo. Steele was feeding FBI the Shearer memo.
Steele was feeding State Department the Steele memo. State Department was feeding FBI the Steele memo.

Do you dispute any of that?

Fake news from the lying media.

Pavlov
04-26-2018, 12:53 PM
Blumenthal was feeding State Department the Shearer memo. State Department was feeding Steele the Shearer memo. Steele was feeding FBI the Shearer memo.
Steele was feeding State Department the Steele memo. State Department was feeding FBI the Steele memo.

Do you dispute any of that?Yes.

What is your conspiracy theory here?

TSA
04-26-2018, 12:55 PM
Yes.

What do you dispute?

Pavlov
04-26-2018, 12:57 PM
What do you dispute?You'll have to state your conspiracy theory first. It's just a pee stain of innuendo right now.

TSA
04-26-2018, 01:06 PM
You'll have to state your conspiracy theory first. It's just a pee stain of innuendo right now.
laundering information to give it legitimacy

Blumenthal was feeding State Department the Shearer memo. State Department was feeding Steele the Shearer memo. Steele was feeding FBI the Shearer memo.
Steele was feeding State Department the Steele memo. State Department was feeding FBI the Steele memo.

what do you dispute?

Pavlov
04-26-2018, 01:07 PM
laundering information to give it legitimacy

Blumenthal was feeding State Department the Shearer memo. State Department was feeding Steele the Shearer memo. Steele was feeding FBI the Shearer memo.
Steele was feeding State Department the Steele memo. State Department was feeding FBI the Steele memo.

what do you dispute?You'll have to be very specific in what information you say was being laundered.

Make a list.

You have the dossier available to you.

Go.

Or would you prefer it remain innuendo?

Pavlov
04-26-2018, 01:15 PM
The Guardian was told Steele warned the FBI he could not vouch for the veracity of the Shearer memo, but that he was providing a copy because it corresponded with what he had separately heard from his own independent sources.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/30/trump-russia-collusion-fbi-cody-shearer-memo

You're really going to have to be specific since Steele gave the Shearer memo to the FBI himself and made the distinction between his own and Shearer's sources.

TSA
04-26-2018, 01:24 PM
You'll have to be very specific in what information you say was being laundered.

Make a list.

You have the dossier available to you.

Go.

Or would you prefer it remain innuendo?

I don't have to be very specific in what information I say was being laundered as that wasn't on the table when I asked you if you disputed anything I wrote and you said yes.

Blumenthal was feeding State Department the Shearer memo. State Department was feeding Steele the Shearer memo. Steele was feeding FBI the Shearer memo.
Steele was feeding State Department the Steele memo. State Department was feeding FBI the Steele memo.

What do you dispute?

Chris
04-26-2018, 01:27 PM
You'll have to be specific on what Blumenthal was eating that day before you can get an answer.

Pavlov
04-26-2018, 01:44 PM
I don't have to be very specific in what information I say was being laundered as that wasn't on the table when I asked you if you disputed anything I wrote and you said yes.

Blumenthal was feeding State Department the Shearer memo. State Department was feeding Steele the Shearer memo. Steele was feeding FBI the Shearer memo.
Steele was feeding State Department the Steele memo. State Department was feeding FBI the Steele memo.

What do you dispute?Pretty much the entire characterization. It's very clear that Steele provided the Shearer memo as completely separate from his own research.

If you just want to leave it as innuendo, that's fine. It's pretty much all you do these days. Someone tells you who the new GREAT SATAN is, in this case Blumenthal, and you trot out your innuendo, act like it's gospel truth and run away from any questioning of it so you can claim some sort of objectivity when it's all found to be bullshit.

Clinton may eat babies.

Pavlov
04-26-2018, 01:45 PM
You'll have to be specific on what Blumenthal was eating that day before you can get an answer.Aw, Chris doesn't want to say what his conspiracy is either.

Chris
04-26-2018, 02:22 PM
Aw, Chris doesn't want to say what his conspiracy is either.

Its a simple question tbh

You're the one going off on a tangent with the Great Satan and Clinton eating babies.

I've no stake in the argument, just calling it like I see it.

Pavlov
04-26-2018, 02:55 PM
Its a simple question tbh

You're the one going off on a tangent with the Great Satan and Clinton eating babies.

I've no stake in the argument, just calling it like I see it.

lol tangent. I'm just calling your conspiracies like I see them.

RandomGuy
04-26-2018, 02:57 PM
Its a simple question tbh

You're the one going off on a tangent with the Great Satan and Clinton eating babies.

I've no stake in the argument, just calling it like I see it.

"Does Chris fuck chickens?"

Its just a simple question.

Please prove you don't fuck chickens.

TSA
04-26-2018, 02:59 PM
Pretty much the entire characterization. It's very clear that Steele provided the Shearer memo as completely separate from his own research.

If you just want to leave it as innuendo, that's fine. It's pretty much all you do these days. Someone tells you who the new GREAT SATAN is, in this case Blumenthal, and you trot out your innuendo, act like it's gospel truth and run away from any questioning of it so you can claim some sort of objectivity when it's all found to be bullshit.

Clinton may eat babies.

Strawman. Never claimed Steele provided the FBI the Shearer memo as his own research. You have been unable to dispute anything so far.

Blumenthal was feeding State Department the Shearer memo yes or no?
State Department was feeding Steele the Shearer memo yes or no?
Steele was feeding FBI the Shearer memo yes or no?
Steele was feeding State Department the Steele memo yes or no?
State Department was feeding FBI the Steele memo yes or no?

TSA
04-26-2018, 03:00 PM
Fake news from the lying media.

Blumenthal was feeding State Department the Shearer memo yes or no?
State Department was feeding Steele the Shearer memo yes or no?
Steele was feeding FBI the Shearer memo yes or no?
Steele was feeding State Department the Steele memo yes or no?
State Department was feeding FBI the Steele memo yes or no?

Chris
04-26-2018, 03:02 PM
"Does Chris fuck chickens?"

Its just a simple question.

Please prove you don't fuck chickens.

He claimed to have a dispute but can't name a single one or why. Your false equaivalency/hyperbole is standard fare.

FuzzyLumpkins
04-26-2018, 03:09 PM
Read through it. Interesting article with some good points.

I wonder when you will wake up out of your echo chamber though, and realize how much you are lied to.

He knows. He just likes saying stupid shit to get a response. The hater account does the same thing.

Chris
04-26-2018, 03:19 PM
989593842713276416

Pavlov
04-26-2018, 03:25 PM
Strawman. Never claimed Steele provided the FBI the Shearer memo as his own research. You have been unable to dispute anything so far.

Blumenthal was feeding State Department the Shearer memo yes or no?
State Department was feeding Steele the Shearer memo yes or no?
Steele was feeding FBI the Shearer memo yes or no?
Steele was feeding State Department the Steele memo yes or no?
State Department was feeding FBI the Steele memo yes or no?:lol "feeding"

Sorry, you'll have to be more specific and state your actual conspiracy theory if that's your characterization. So far you have refused and just repeat the same innuendo.

My prediction: You will never be more specific. You will never state your actual conspiracy theory. You will stick with "Clinton may eat babies."

Reck
04-26-2018, 03:28 PM
989593842713276416

Clinton Pollsters good now.

RandomGuy
04-26-2018, 03:43 PM
He knows. He just likes saying stupid shit to get a response. The hater account does the same thing.

Pretty much. I think this forum's days of meaningful discussion are long behind it. :/

Chris
04-26-2018, 04:02 PM
!!!


989598660152451073

Pavlov
04-26-2018, 04:05 PM
!!!


989598660152451073Will be leaked within the hour because leaks good.

TSA
04-26-2018, 04:13 PM
:lol "feeding"

Sorry, you'll have to be more specific and state your actual conspiracy theory if that's your characterization. So far you have refused and just repeat the same innuendo.

My prediction: You will never be more specific. You will never state your actual conspiracy theory. You will stick with "Clinton may eat babies."


Blumenthal was feeding State Department the Shearer memo. State Department was feeding Steele the Shearer memo. Steele was feeding FBI the Shearer memo.
Steele was feeding State Department the Steele memo. State Department was feeding FBI the Steele memo.

Do you dispute any of that?


Yes


What do you dispute?

My prediction: You won't dispute anything. You won't even try. You'll just continue to dodge the original question and try and drag this in the weeds until I get bored and give up and then you'll try to declare victory.
You're a broken fucking record.

Pavlov
04-26-2018, 04:19 PM
My prediction: You won't dispute anything. You won't even try. You'll just continue to dodge the original question and try and drag this in the weeds until I get bored and give up and then you'll try to declare victory.
You're a broken fucking record.I did dispute the characterization.

I declare no victory. You just shit out some more innuendo and don't want to go any further than that.

You're afraid to go any further than your shit innuendo.

Period.

It's your conspiracy theory. These are your accusations to prove. If you are afraid to do so, just say so.

TSA
04-26-2018, 04:23 PM
I did dispute the characterization.

I declare no victory. You just shit out some more innuendo and don't want to go any further than that.

You're afraid to go any further than your shit innuendo.

Period.

It's your conspiracy theory. These are your accusations to prove. If you are afraid to do so, just say so.

They weren't accusations they were statements of fact. That is why you did not dispute a single one and instead pulled a strawman out of your ass.

TSA
04-26-2018, 04:24 PM
Mueller’s investigation of Trump ‘needs to conclude,’ Sessions says

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/apr/26/sessions-trump-investigation-needs-conclude/?cache

Pavlov
04-26-2018, 04:25 PM
They weren't accusations they were statements of fact. That is why you did not dispute a single one and instead pulled a strawman out of your ass.What is your conspiracy theory here, TSA?

Why are you so afraid to say what you think really happened?

Pavlov
04-26-2018, 04:26 PM
Mueller’s investigation of Trump ‘needs to conclude,’ Sessions says

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/apr/26/sessions-trump-investigation-needs-conclude/?cacheToo bad he doesn't have a say in it.

Reck
04-26-2018, 04:37 PM
Mueller’s investigation of Trump ‘needs to conclude,’ Sessions says

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/apr/26/sessions-trump-investigation-needs-conclude/?cache

Well I agree with that.

If you fire Mueller, the investigation doesn't conclude properly.

In fact, the investigation would get restarted if that were to happen.

:lol TSA false hopes.

TSA
04-26-2018, 04:40 PM
What is your conspiracy theory here, TSA?

Why are you so afraid to say what you think really happened?

You were already told what I think happened. You were then asked again to dispute the statements and waived the white flag.

TSA
04-26-2018, 04:42 PM
Well I agree with that.

If you fire Mueller, the investigation doesn't conclude properly.

In fact, the investigation would get restarted if that were to happen.

:lol TSA false hopes.

The only false hope here is you thinking Mueller is getting fired.

Gulianni is already negotiating the closure with Mueller and Sessions is speaking publicly about it ending. This investigation is just about wrapped up.

Pavlov
04-26-2018, 04:46 PM
You were already told what I think happened. You were then asked again to dispute the statements and waived the white flag.Nope, I laughed at your characterizations.

Walk me through your conspiracy theory, TSA. Something more than your "feeding" characterization.

You won't do it.

Pavlov
04-26-2018, 04:46 PM
The only false hope here is you thinking Mueller is getting fired.

Gulianni is already negotiating the closure with Mueller and Sessions is speaking publicly about it ending. This investigation is just about wrapped up.How does one negotiate the closure, TSA?

Walk me through that too.

Reck
04-26-2018, 04:51 PM
The only false hope here is you thinking Mueller is getting fired.

Gulianni is already negotiating the closure with Mueller and Sessions is speaking publicly about it ending. This investigation is just about wrapped up.

:lol 2 weeks.

Will you be here in a month or 2 to back up your claim?

boutons_deux
04-26-2018, 05:00 PM
The only false hope here is you thinking Mueller is getting fired.

Gulianni is already negotiating the closure with Mueller and Sessions is speaking publicly about it ending. This investigation is just about wrapped up.

:lol Muelleur ain't goin nowhere. Julie Annie ain't gonna accomplish nothing, other than shit on himself working for Trash.

TSA
04-26-2018, 05:01 PM
Nope, I laughed at your characterizations.

Walk me through your conspiracy theory, TSA. Something more than your "feeding" characterization.

You won't do it.

:lol falling back on semantics like a bitch

Blumenthal gave State Department the Shearer memo. State Department gave Steele the Shearer memo. Steele gave FBI the Shearer memo.
Steele gave State Department the Steele memo. State Department gave FBI the Steele memo.

Dispute any of that. You won't do it.

TSA
04-26-2018, 05:02 PM
:lol 2 weeks.

Will you be here in a month or 2 to back up your claim?

You're still here posting a year after welshing on a bet why would I not be here in a month if the investigation isn't wrapped up?

Pavlov
04-26-2018, 05:04 PM
:lol falling back on semantics like a bitch

Blumenthal gave State Department the Shearer memo. State Department gave Steele the Shearer memo. Steele gave FBI the Shearer memo.
Steele gave State Department the Steele memo. State Department gave FBI the Steele memo.

Dispute any of that. You won't do it.:lol Steele gave the FBI the Steele memo.

What is your conspiracy theory, TSA?

Why are you so afraid to go any deeper than blog innuendo?

Reck
04-26-2018, 05:37 PM
You're still here posting a year after welshing on a bet why would I not be here in a month if the investigation isn't wrapped up?

What does me cucking you have anything to do with your shit claim that "julie annie" (:lol) is going to wrap things up because....magic. There's a reason why you're the board laughingstock pizzaboy.

Your constant retarded claims is one of the many reasons why you're the butt of the joke here. Continue to be that while we all laugh at you.

Pavlov
04-26-2018, 05:44 PM
What does me cucking you have anything to do with your shit claim that "julie annie" (:lol) is going to wrap things up because....magic. There's a reason why you're the board laughingstock pizzaboy.

Your constant retarded claims is one of the many reasons why you're the butt of the joke here. Continue to be that while we all laugh at you.Somehow the investigation will be over before Manafort even goes to trial.

TSA
04-26-2018, 06:19 PM
:lol Steele gave the FBI the Steele memo.

What is your conspiracy theory, TSA?

Why are you so afraid to go any deeper than blog innuendo?
:lol accusing others of being afraid while white flagging

dispute or shut the fuck up

TSA
04-26-2018, 06:21 PM
What does me cucking you have anything to do with your shit claim that "julie annie" (:lol) is going to wrap things up because....magic. There's a reason why you're the board laughingstock pizzaboy.

Your constant retarded claims is one of the many reasons why you're the butt of the joke here. Continue to be that while we all laugh at you.
Blake I need some clarification. Did some dude fuck your wife because he lost a bet?

Pavlov
04-26-2018, 06:24 PM
:lol accusing others of being afraid while white flagging

dispute or shut the fuck upI disputed your characterization and corrected you on the fact that Steele gave the Steele memos to the FBI. He also gave the other memos to the FBI with the clear caveat they were not his and he could not vouch for them.

What is your conspiracy theory here, TSA?

TSA
04-26-2018, 06:28 PM
I disputed your characterization and corrected you on the fact that Steele gave the Steele memos to the FBI. He also gave the other memos to the FBI with the clear caveat they were not his and he could not vouch for them.

What is your conspiracy theory here, TSA?

Another strawman. Steele giving the FBI his own dossier was never in dispute.

Blumenthal gave State Department the Shearer memo.
State Department gave Steele the Shearer memo.
Steele gave FBI the Shearer memo.
Steele gave State Department the Steele memo.
State Department gave FBI the Steele memo.


Do you dispute any of this?

Pavlov
04-26-2018, 06:30 PM
Another strawman. Steele giving the FBI his own dossier was never in dispute.

Blumenthal gave State Department the Shearer memo.
State Department gave Steele the Shearer memo.
Steele gave FBI the Shearer memo.
Steele gave State Department the Steele memo.
State Department gave FBI the Steele memo.


Do you dispute any of this?It's not "feed" anymore?

lol

You have my disputes and backed down accordingly. Thanks.

Now, what is your conspiracy theory, TSA?

TSA
04-26-2018, 06:56 PM
It's not "feed" anymore?

lol

You have my disputes and backed down accordingly. Thanks.

Now, what is your conspiracy theory, TSA?

You used feeding to call it a characterization. Feed is gone and you’re still ducking.

Blumenthal gave State Department the Shearer memo.
State Department gave Steele the Shearer memo.
Steele gave FBI the Shearer memo.
Steele gave State Department the Steele memo.
State Department gave FBI the Steele memo.

Do you dispute any of this yes or no?

Pavlov
04-26-2018, 07:26 PM
You used feeding to call it a characterization. Feed is gone and you’re still ducking.

Blumenthal gave State Department the Shearer memo.
State Department gave Steele the Shearer memo.
Steele gave FBI the Shearer memo.
Steele gave State Department the Steele memo.
State Department gave FBI the Steele memo.

Do you dispute any of this yes or no?I gave you my disputes. You're demanding I repeat myself.

You will never say what your conspiracy theory is.

Ever.

You're done.

TSA
04-26-2018, 07:53 PM
I gave you my disputes. You're demanding I repeat myself.

You will never say what your conspiracy theory is.

Ever.

You're done.

yoYZf-lBF_U

I accept your white flag you shook mother fucker

clambake
04-26-2018, 07:59 PM
tick tock

clambake
04-26-2018, 08:01 PM
and cohen has 16 cellphones.

my my


or was that manafort?





or both?

Chris
04-26-2018, 08:14 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbuTORqV0AASI7R.jpg:large

DarrinS
04-26-2018, 08:18 PM
Stronk?

DarrinS
04-26-2018, 08:23 PM
Did they mean Strzok?

Chris
04-26-2018, 08:28 PM
Peter Strzok. Interesting to find out what those text messages say that went to Congress. Q was alluding to an assassination plot. I'm guessing that would be a new set of charges.

Chucho
04-26-2018, 08:49 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbuTORqV0AASI7R.jpg:large

LOL, more false hopes.

spurraider21
04-26-2018, 10:29 PM
:lmao stronk

Chris
04-27-2018, 02:01 AM
To summarize so far this "investigation" went from "Russian collusion" to "Obstruction of Justice" to "Michael Cohen".

Time to shut her down like yesterday.

Winehole23
04-27-2018, 02:18 AM
To summarize so far this "investigation" went from "Russian collusion" to "Obstruction of Justice" to "Michael Cohen".

Time to shut her down like yesterday.Clinton supporters said much the same about the Whitewater investigation. Lasted five years and cost 30 million.

It was meandering, somewhat like Mueller's.

Chris
04-27-2018, 02:31 AM
Clinton supporters said much the same about the Whitewater investigation. Lasted five years and cost 30 million.

It was meandering, somewhat like Mueller's.

I'm betting that investigation was another 'HQ special' and probably 5 years of cover up knowing the Clinton Cartel.

Pavlov
04-27-2018, 02:36 AM
Stronk?


Did they mean Strzok?


:lmao stronk:rollin Jesus

Winehole23
04-27-2018, 02:37 AM
I'm betting that investigation was another 'HQ special' and probably 5 years of cover up knowing the Clinton Cartelall the special prosecutor managed to hang on Bill Clinton was lying about a blowjob.

not that there was nothing to it: the RTC's criminal referral had to do with destruction of evidence related to fraud. Jim and Susan McDougal did go to jail.

Pavlov
04-27-2018, 09:38 AM
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Not to put too fine a point on it:

I am a lawyer, and I am an informant. Since 2013, I have been actively communicating with the office of the Russian prosecutor general.

djohn2oo8
04-27-2018, 10:26 AM
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Hmm meeting with an adversary of the US government

djohn2oo8
04-27-2018, 10:28 AM
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DarrinS
04-27-2018, 10:53 AM
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Why hasn’t Mueller interviewed her?

djohn2oo8
04-27-2018, 10:57 AM
Why hasn’t Mueller interviewed her?

Whats to say he hasnt?

djohn2oo8
04-27-2018, 10:57 AM
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All these damn Russians

djohn2oo8
04-27-2018, 10:59 AM
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boutons_deux
04-27-2018, 10:59 AM
Trash's "no collusion" is, surprise, a LIE

Pavlov
04-27-2018, 11:10 AM
Why hasn’t Mueller interviewed her?Given what the feds already knew about the "adoption" meeting, I'm not sure he would even need to interview her.

Reck
04-27-2018, 11:13 AM
Stronk?

:lol

Reck
04-27-2018, 11:14 AM
Whats to say he hasnt?

She's holed up in Russia. It's very unlikely he has.

Besides, Putin would have her jailed or killed before he lets someone like Mueller get his hands on her. No way.

boutons_deux
04-27-2018, 11:24 AM
All these damn Russians

Pootin's full court press to degrade USA

All these damn compromised Americans

djohn2oo8
04-27-2018, 11:40 AM
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lol

Reck
04-27-2018, 11:49 AM
Another blow to Chris.

Mikeanaro
04-27-2018, 11:52 AM
Why hasn’t Mueller interviewed her?
He will, maybe in a couple years to keep the ¨IMPEACH¨ troupe happy.

RandomGuy
04-27-2018, 12:25 PM
He claimed to have a dispute but can't name a single one or why. Your false equaivalency/hyperbole is standard fare.

"Does Chris fuck chickens?"

Its just a simple question.

Please prove you don't fuck chickens.

RandomGuy
04-27-2018, 12:27 PM
Peter Strzok. Interesting to find out what those text messages say that went to Congress. Q was alluding to an assassination plot. I'm guessing that would be a new set of charges.

:rollin

You go with that.

Reck
04-27-2018, 12:45 PM
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Is it just me or is Putin going like fuck this orange faggot. Open the floodgates.

That's two Putin puppets that have come out with damning evidence against pee man.

spurraider21
04-27-2018, 01:47 PM
Has Stronk been indicted yet?

Chris
04-27-2018, 01:58 PM
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Chris
04-27-2018, 02:06 PM
House Intel Committee clears Trump campaign of any Trump Russia collusion.

djohn2oo8
04-27-2018, 02:28 PM
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Chris
04-27-2018, 02:29 PM
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Hmm meeting with an adversary of the US government

djohn2oo8 :lol


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djohn2oo8
04-27-2018, 02:32 PM
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:lmao Flynn Jr.

Reck
04-27-2018, 02:38 PM
djohn2oo8 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14870) :lol


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They dont come stupider than you, Chris.

It was the "lawyer" herself who said it and it was NBC who got the interview with her.

:lol Chris's tiny brain


Ms. Veselnitskaya also appears to have recanted her earlier denials of Russian government ties. During an interview to be broadcast Friday by NBC News, she acknowledged that she was not merely a private lawyer but a source of information for a top Kremlin official, Yuri Y. Chaika, the prosecutor general.


“I am a lawyer, and I am an informant,” she said. “Since 2013, I have been actively communicating with the office of the Russian prosecutor general.”



Lordy, are you fucking stupid.

TSA
04-27-2018, 02:53 PM
They dont come stupider than you, Chris.

It was the "lawyer" herself who said it and it was NBC who got the interview with her.

:lol Chris's tiny brain



Lordy, are you fucking stupid.

lol at you calling anyone else stupid. You just claimed a tycoon EXILED from Russia was a Putin puppet.

djohn2oo8
04-27-2018, 02:53 PM
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Not good when you have to plead the 5th to this shit. Fucking traitors :lol

Chris
04-27-2018, 03:00 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbzW0JoWsAElWOh.jpg:large

Reck
04-27-2018, 03:03 PM
lol at you calling anyone else stupid. You just claimed a tycoon EXILED from Russia was a Putin puppet.

Oh I meant Chris comes in second only to you, Pizzaboy.

Owner of the pizzagate conspiracy
Owner of the Clinton eats babies conspiracy
Owner of the Clintons and Podesta group run a pedo ring conspiracy
Onwer of the claim that Susan Rice was going to get indicted

I take it back Chris. You're only second to TSA. :lol

Chris
04-27-2018, 03:04 PM
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Winehole23
04-27-2018, 03:04 PM
What Flynn did furtively on Turkey's behalf for a half mil in 2016-7 seems to me way more damning than any meeting he had with Russians before DJT hired him, but who knows, maybe that involved Turkey too.

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Chris
04-27-2018, 05:03 PM
Flynn didn't lie. There goes that.

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spurraider21
04-27-2018, 05:07 PM
Flynn didn't lie. There goes that.
he pled guilty to lying to the FBI

there goes that

dabom
04-27-2018, 05:09 PM
:lol

Chris
04-27-2018, 05:12 PM
he pled guilty to lying to the FBI

there goes that

He was pressured into pleading guilty no doubt. All he is guilty of is talking to the FBI without a lawyer.

Can't wait to see what comes out in the wash.

Chris
04-27-2018, 05:15 PM
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Pavlov
04-27-2018, 05:17 PM
He was pressured into pleading guilty no doubt.By whom?

For what reason?

If he didn't lie, there was no reason to plead guilty at all.

Reck
04-27-2018, 05:17 PM
He was pressured into pleading guilty no doubt. All he is guilty of is talking to the FBI without a lawyer.

Can't wait to see what comes out in the wash.

Well if that was the case he's certainly a weak willed individual and how he made it to general, I dont know.

If every one breaks as easily as Flynn did then we are fucked.

Or you can take his guilty plead to lying as truth and move on with your life.

TSA
04-27-2018, 05:34 PM
By whom?

For what reason?

If he didn't lie, there was no reason to plead guilty at all.

define testimony.
define ‘on record’.

spurraider21
04-27-2018, 05:41 PM
He was pressured into pleading guilty no doubt. All he is guilty of is talking to the FBI without a lawyer.

Can't wait to see what comes out in the wash.
prosecutors pressure every defendant in every case to plead guilty :lmao

what an asinine defense

Chris
04-27-2018, 05:52 PM
By whom?

No telling with Mueller's team of prosecutors. I'm guessing Aaron Zelby. IT guy for Hillary. Personal aide to Bill Clinton. Had access to Hillary's server. Lawyer for Justin Cooper - another Clinton goon.


For what reason?

To drive the Russian collusion narrative.


If he didn't lie, there was no reason to plead guilty at all.

Everyone agrees he didn't lie. Like I said he was pressured sans lawyer derpy mcderp.

Chris
04-27-2018, 05:54 PM
prosecutors pressure every defendant in every case to plead guilty :lmao

what an asinine defense

Flynn probably went in there with good intentions. The prosecutors could smell blood in the water when he decided to come by himself. Flynn is a patsy for the witch hunt.

TSA
04-27-2018, 06:17 PM
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Chris
04-27-2018, 06:20 PM
Clapper leaks to CNN.

Clapper tells Comey to brief Trump.

Comey briefs Trump on dossier b/c "CNN wants a news hook."

Clapper tells CNN about briefing.

CNN reports on briefing to validate unverified dossier.

BuzzFeed publishes dossier.

-SD

spurraider21
04-27-2018, 06:25 PM
Flynn probably went in there with good intentions. The prosecutors could smell blood in the water when he decided to come by himself. Flynn is a patsy for the witch hunt.
did he have a lawyer with him when he pled guilty in court?

Chris
04-27-2018, 06:27 PM
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Chris
04-27-2018, 06:44 PM
did he have a lawyer with him when he pled guilty in court?

Yep, and he had to pay that lawyer. Had to sell his house.

spurraider21
04-27-2018, 06:53 PM
Yep, and he had to pay that lawyer. Had to sell his house.
did you contribute to his legal defense fund?