Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

[TSA]

Prove it. Show links, be specific, otherwise you're full of shit. Everything I've seen dismisses her as a joke. And you just posted liberal tweets exposing her as a fraud.

MIWuzwUCjAg

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/17/opinion/what-to-ask-about-russian-hacking.html

[clambake]

MIWuzwUCjAg

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/17/opinion/what-to-ask-about-russian-hacking.html

i can't see that

its just a white square. whats wrong with my settings? i get it a lot

[clambake]

i can't see half the shit you guys embed.

its very frustrating not being able to see it and missing out on making a bunch of snarky comments.

[TSA]

You haven't allowed me to finish making my case. I can't show you anything resembling proof, or even a good argument, if some things can't be established.

Flynn advocated for several things for Turkey, after taking money he thought was from Turkey, but appears to have been solely Russian in origin.

Fact or no?

bolded is a fact. The rest no, not yet.

I see where you are trying to go with this but it is not what I asked and will lead us into discussing the ethics of lobbying with our government. I asked for proof the Trump team colluded with Russia to steal the election.

[TSA]

i can't see that

its just a white square. whats wrong with my settings? i get it a lot

I get that at work sometimes depending on what browser I use while on Spurstalk. White box usually shows up if I'm on Internet explorer, but if I log out the video appears.

The video is a CNN clip of Ed Markey citing details of a blog by Louise Mensch

[djohn2oo8]

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[monosylab1k]

MIWuzwUCjAg

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/17/opinion/what-to-ask-about-russian-hacking.html

Article from March, everyone has long blown her off since then. Video has no mention of her. Try again.

[clambake]

I get that at work sometimes depending on what browser I use while on Spurstalk. White box usually shows up if I'm on Internet explorer, but if I log out the video appears.

The video is a CNN clip of Ed Markey citing details of a blog by Louise Mensch

hey, thanks for responding.

[djohn2oo8]

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[TSA]

Article from March, everyone has long blown her off since then. Video has no mention of her. Try again.

Markey had to publically apologize and one of his aides said he got the info from Mensch.
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/2017/05/ed_markey_issues_mea_culpa_for_grand_jury_claim

And I'm not sure what you're getting at, if you dismiss her as crazy that's great. I'm going to keep shitting on djohn for believing and pushing her theories.

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[baseline bum]

:lol Cuckner

[djohn2oo8]

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CROFL

[djohn2oo8]

WaPo: Investigators looking into broad financial crimes possibly committed by Kushner.

[TSA]

hey, thanks for responding.

No prob bud. I know your posts sometimes get overlooked.

[djohn2oo8]

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[TSA]

WaPo: Investigators looking into broad financial crimes possibly committed by Kushner.

:rolling just stop it already my fucking sides hurt from laughing at you all day. I'm honestly bummed I'll be back in the office tomorrow with less time to mock you.

[djohn2oo8]

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[spurraider21]

Jared Kushner didn't disclose business ties to George Soros, Peter Thiel, and Goldman Sachs, or that he owes $1 billion in loans
(http://www.businessinsider.com/jared-kushner-ties-george-soros-goldman-sachs-peter-thiel-1-billion-loan-2017-5)

:lol Clipper Nation (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=28500)
:lol the boogeyman

[djohn2oo8]

Flynn's attorney declined to comment when asked if his client was cooperating with the Justice Department.

Flynn is singing...

[baseline bum]

Jared Kushner didn't disclose business ties to George Soros, Peter Thiel, and Goldman Sachs, or that he owes $1 billion in loans
(http://www.businessinsider.com/jared-kushner-ties-george-soros-goldman-sachs-peter-thiel-1-billion-loan-2017-5)

:lol Clipper Nation (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=28500)
:lol the boogeyman



As President Bannon says, West Wing Democrats

[djohn2oo8]

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:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

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lol

[TSA]

djohn2oo8 why you running from the bet? You've already got zero credibility you might as well go out with a bang

[TSA]

djohn2oo8 why you running from the bet? You've already got zero credibility you might as well go out with a bang

Mensch is going out with a bang :lmao

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[spurraider21]

TSA cares more about mensch than anybody on ST

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[Adam Lambert]

i'll play the TSA game

hmm, its pretty suspicious that there are all these attacks trying to discredit Mensch just as she's digging deeper into Trump's scandals. That only means her conspiracy theories must be true.

:lol Nailed it

[djohn2oo8]

On MSNBC just now they said Kushner was the one who wanted Comey fired the most.

[TSA]

On MSNBC just now they said Kushner was the one who wanted Comey fired the most.

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100% guarantee nothing happens to Kushner now. Mensch curse strikes again :lol

[djohn2oo8]

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[TSA]

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djohn2oo8 :cry :cry :cry

[djohn2oo8]

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djohn2oo8 :cry :cry :cry

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:lmao TSA

[djohn2oo8]

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[AaronY]

Jared Kushner didn't disclose business ties to George Soros, Peter Thiel, and Goldman Sachs, or that he owes $1 billion in loans
(http://www.businessinsider.com/jared-kushner-ties-george-soros-goldman-sachs-peter-thiel-1-billion-loan-2017-5)

:lol Clipper Nation (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=28500)
:lol the boogeyman


Holy Shit Soros :lmao

[TSA]

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:lmao TSA

:lmao you've just surpassed Reck as the stupidest mother fucker here :lmao

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:lol Mensch
:lol True facts stated
:lol 20 committee
:lol broadsword_six

[TSA]

:lmao you've just surpassed Reck as the stupidest mother fucker here :lmao

863895628333539328

:lol Mensch
:lol True facts stated
:lol 20 committee
:lol broadsword_six

On Twitter, where Mensch boasts 283,000 followers, her short-form musings flutter in a chamber of looniness alongside those of compatriots John Schindler (a former NSA spy who resigned from his teaching position at the Naval War College after a controversy involving a dick pic) and the aforementioned Claude Taylor (a D.C.*–based photographer with the username TrueFactsStated). As Zack Beauchamp chronicled in Vox, the members of this febrile amen circle spur and amplify each other, sprinkling their fevered accusations with terms of art from the world of espionage, among them deza (short for dezinformatsiya, or disinformation) and Chekist (the word for former KGB officers who now enjoy political prominence in Putin’s Russia). On Mensch’s own feed, she chops up and remixes handles and hashtags to score her delirious mood music: Romanian hackers, Yandex, #hostkey. FBI, @GCHQ. Komprat? Agitprop. GLOMAR! Combative and righteous, she refers to Republican senators like Pat Toomey as “douchebags.” She posted that she hopes Trump will “die in jail, at least stay there til the tertiary syphillis really kicks in :).”

As Beauchamp observes, the through line of these florid conjectures is not so much a single conspiracy (à la birtherism) as a vision of insidious and saturating Russian influence. On the websites Heat Street and Patribotics, Mensch has suggested that Putin had Andrew Breitbart killed so Steve Bannon could take up his mantle, that a nightclub massacre in Istanbul was engineered by Russians posing as ISIS terrorists, and that the Kremlin lurked behind the Boston Marathon attacks. Her tapestry of GOP–Moscow collusion evokes both the Cold War and Mission Impossible. A self-described conservative, Mensch calls herself a “pro–national security partisan” and “a patriot in the service of the intelligence community.” If she despises the Republican Party, it is because she thinks it is abetting a hostile foreign power. Mensch’s rightward tilt doesn’t stop left-wing readers from ingesting her hatred like a drug. The technical language and the “multiple sources” imply that a real doctor prepared the dose.

http://redux.slate.com/cover-stories/2017/05/louise-mensch-and-the-rise-of-the-liberal-conspiracy-theorist.html

:rollin

[djohn2oo8]

On Twitter, where Mensch boasts 283,000 followers, her short-form musings flutter in a chamber of looniness alongside those of compatriots John Schindler (a former NSA spy who resigned from his teaching position at the Naval War College after a controversy involving a dick pic) and the aforementioned Claude Taylor (a D.C.*–based photographer with the username TrueFactsStated). As Zack Beauchamp chronicled in Vox, the members of this febrile amen circle spur and amplify each other, sprinkling their fevered accusations with terms of art from the world of espionage, among them deza (short for dezinformatsiya, or disinformation) and Chekist (the word for former KGB officers who now enjoy political prominence in Putin’s Russia). On Mensch’s own feed, she chops up and remixes handles and hashtags to score her delirious mood music: Romanian hackers, Yandex, #hostkey. FBI, @GCHQ. Komprat? Agitprop. GLOMAR! Combative and righteous, she refers to Republican senators like Pat Toomey as “douchebags.” She posted that she hopes Trump will “die in jail, at least stay there til the tertiary syphillis really kicks in :).”

As Beauchamp observes, the through line of these florid conjectures is not so much a single conspiracy (à la birtherism) as a vision of insidious and saturating Russian influence. On the websites Heat Street and Patribotics, Mensch has suggested that Putin had Andrew Breitbart killed so Steve Bannon could take up his mantle, that a nightclub massacre in Istanbul was engineered by Russians posing as ISIS terrorists, and that the Kremlin lurked behind the Boston Marathon attacks. Her tapestry of GOP–Moscow collusion evokes both the Cold War and Mission Impossible. A self-described conservative, Mensch calls herself a “pro–national security partisan” and “a patriot in the service of the intelligence community.” If she despises the Republican Party, it is because she thinks it is abetting a hostile foreign power. Mensch’s rightward tilt doesn’t stop left-wing readers from ingesting her hatred like a drug. The technical language and the “multiple sources” imply that a real doctor prepared the dose.

http://redux.slate.com/cover-stories/2017/05/louise-mensch-and-the-rise-of-the-liberal-conspiracy-theorist.html

:rollin

Damn TSA melting down again. Do you know what scrutiny is? It's not good dumbass.

[spurraider21]

this targeted attack against mensch proves that she's onto something tbh

[djohn2oo8]

Trying to spin "Person of Interest" as a good thing :lol

[TSA]

Damn TSA melting down again. Do you know what scrutiny is? It's not good dumbass.

Is scrutiny something so bad we might see the FISA court grand jury send out the SCOTUS Marshal to indict Kushner? :lmao

[TSA]

Trying to spin "Person of Interest" as a good thing :lol

Trying to pass off any of your posts as credible :lol

[Adam Lambert]

this targeted attack against mensch proves that she's onto something tbh

look at how the attacks against her came right after she started speculating about kushner, it basically means shes right.

[djohn2oo8]

Trying to pass off any of your posts as credible :lol

Trump, Kushner, Sessions, Flynn, Manafort, Page under FBI investigation. Not Hillary.

[clambake]

they'll make him share a cell with that sandwich jared guy.

[TSA]

Trump, Kushner, Sessions, Flynn, Manafort, Page under FBI investigation. Not Hillary.

:lol no arrests
:lol no indictments
:lol no charges
:lol no evidence of collusion

[djohn2oo8]

:lol no arrests
:lol no indictments
:lol no charges
:lol no evidence of collusion

No arrests made public
Yes charges have been made
If there is no evidence then the investigation would be over already. (Investigation ongoing, Bombshell leaks everyday)
Oh and Flynn has turned on Trump :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Oh and one more thing. Indictments are sealed on the big dogs until Mueller gives the green light. Niggas are fucked :lol

[TSA]

No arrests made public
Yes charges have been made
If there is no evidence then the investigation would be over already. (Investigation ongoing, Bombshell leaks everyday)
Oh and Flynn has turned on Trump :lol

:lmao

[TSA]

Oh and one more thing. Indictments are sealed on the big dogs until Mueller gives the green light. Niggas are fucked :lol

Niggas are fucked yet your too pussy to ELE bet one of your multiple accounts :lmao

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

Niggas are fucked yet your too pussy to ELE bet one of your multiple accounts :lmao

Bitch i bet you 2k straight up and you pussied out.

[djohn2oo8]

867919867332177921
lol Flynn sitting next to Putin

[lefty]

Trudeau is so going to fuck Ivanka while Jared is dropping soaps in prison

[djohn2oo8]

Trudeau is so going to fuck Ivanka while Jared is dropping soaps in prison

lol Ivanka will be wearing orange too.

[djohn2oo8]

FBI tells Chaffetz to fuck off because they aren't handing him those Comey memos.

[lefty]

lol Ivanka will be wearing orange too.
:lol and a red maple leaf tattooed on her ass

[djohn2oo8]

867936692623130625

[TSA]

Bitch i bet you 2k straight up and you pussied out.

Bitch you offered that to someone else and when I asked you about it a couple weeks ago you tucked tail and ran.
Bitch no one believes you'll pay $2K when they are currently watching you pussy out on an ELE bet for an account
:rollin

[djohn2oo8]

Hmm seems to be a top secret FISA court order.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/top-secret-fisa-court-order/

[djohn2oo8]

Bitch you offered that to someone else and when I asked you about it a couple weeks ago you tucked tail and ran.
Bitch no one believes you'll pay $2K when they are currently watching you pussy out on an ELE bet for an account
:rollin

I offered it directly to you. You ignored the post. :rollin

[djohn2oo8]

867932665340510208

[TSA]

I offered it directly to you. You ignored the post. :rollin

:lol still running from a simple ELE bet

Why are you scared? Losing your account would be a good thing you've completely shit all over your djohn account and are a running joke now.

[djohn2oo8]

:lol still running from a simple ELE bet

Why are you scared? Losing your account would be a good thing you've completely shit all over your djohn account and are a running joke now.

Damn you literally just ran fromy the 2k bet. 2k right here right now. You in or out?

[TSA]

Hmm seems to be a top secret FISA court order.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/top-secret-fisa-court-order/

uh oh Susan Rice

compliance problems and minimization not being followed by the NSA and FBI

[TSA]

Damn you literally just ran fromy the 2k bet. 2k right here right now. You in or out?

I trust you about as much as I trust Louise Mensch

:lol account too precious
:lol still running
:lol pussy

[djohn2oo8]

I trust you about as much as I trust Louise Mensch

:lol account too precious
:lol still running
:lol pussy

So you are not taking the bet?

[djohn2oo8]

Don't blame you. You will easily be out of 2k that you don't have.

[clambake]

Damn you literally just ran fromy the 2k bet. 2k right here right now. You in or out?:corn:

[djohn2oo8]

lol left the thread

[TSA]

So you are not taking the bet?

1. You haven't even said what the $2k bet is on
2. I don't trust you at all
3. You are deflecting from a simple ELE bet because you're a huge pussy

[TSA]

Hmm seems to be a top secret FISA court order.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/top-secret-fisa-court-order/

Pages 98-99 :wow

[TSA]

Hmm seems to be a top secret FISA court order.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/top-secret-fisa-court-order/

Declassified memos show FBI illegally shared spy data on Americans with private parties

http://circa.com/politics/declassified-memos-show-fbi-illegally-shared-spy-data-on-americans-with-private-parties

uh oh

[djohn2oo8]

1. You haven't even said what the $2k bet is on
2. I don't trust you at all
3. You are deflecting from a simple ELE bet because you're a huge pussy

Preferring an account bet over money because you are scared you will lose. The bet is whether Trump will be impeached /resign/indicted or not. In or out?

[TSA]

Preferring an account bet over money because you are scared you will lose. The bet is whether Trump will be impeached /resign/indicted or not. In or out?

You're a fool to think anyone here would take you up on a money bet, you have zero credibility. If you don't want to accept my ELE bet just say so.

By the way thanks for the FISA link. Comey is not looking forward to having testify :lol

[TSA]

Declassified memos show FBI illegally shared spy data on Americans with private parties

http://circa.com/politics/declassified-memos-show-fbi-illegally-shared-spy-data-on-americans-with-private-parties

uh oh

For instance, a ruling declassified this month by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) chronicles nearly 10 pages listing hundreds of violations of the FBI’s privacy-protecting minimization rules that occurred on Comey’s watch.

The behavior the FBI admitted to a FISA judge just last month ranged from illegally sharing raw intelligence with unauthorized third parties to accessing intercepted attorney-client privileged communications without proper oversight the bureau promised was in place years ago.

The court also opined aloud that it fears the violations are more extensive than already disclosed.

“The Court is nonetheless concerned about the FBI’s apparent disregard of minimization rules and whether the FBI is engaging in similar disclosures of raw Section 702 information that have not been reported,” the April 2017 ruling declared.

[djohn2oo8]

You're a fool to think anyone here would take you up on a money bet, you have zero credibility. If you don't want to accept my ELE bet just say so.

By the way thanks for the FISA link. Comey is not looking forward to having testify :lol

You bitched about me not taking you up on the money bet you.never wanted to have?

:lmao Puss

[djohn2oo8]

Guess you don't have 2k to shell out. Broke ass TSA :lol

[Reck]

LOL TSA using Fox's talking point like a good dog.

[leemajors]

i can't see half the shit you guys embed.

its very frustrating not being able to see it and missing out on making a bunch of snarky comments.

if you're on chrome, flash is disabled by default and you have to right click to see embedded flash.

[RandomGuy]

Flynn advocated for several things for Turkey, after taking money he thought was from Turkey, but appears to have been solely Russian in origin.


bolded is a fact. The rest no, not yet.

I see where you are trying to go with this but it is not what I asked and will lead us into discussing the ethics of lobbying with our government. I asked for proof the Trump team colluded with Russia to steal the election.

You are asking me to take on the burden of something I have not definitively asserted. I do think there is more than enough probable cause to do an active investigation into whether there was collusion.

For purposes of this thread though, the ultimate topic is what Flynn actually did, whether knowingly or not, who he took money from, and then what the Golfer-In-Chief decided to do with that information, if anything.

Flynn's actions, who he took money from, and why, form the basis of that probable cause, which is why you are trying so hard to change the subject, whether you think you are doing that or not.

Developing sufficient evidence requires following lines of inquiry, and establishing facts. Any good consideration follows through on one thread at a time, so since you think that the second half of that sentence hasn't "yet" been established, let's see what evidence to support it is available, then move on.

[djohn2oo8]

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[DarrinS]

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"Schindler is regarded by some people as a conspiracy theorist along the lines of former Heat Street editor Louise Mensch, with whom Schindler enjoys an amiable online relationship."

:lmao

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/did-admiral-mike-rogers-tell-the-nsa-that-trump-colluded-with-the-russians/

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

"Schindler is regarded by some people as a conspiracy theorist along the lines of former Heat Street editor Louise Mensch, with whom Schindler enjoys an amiable online relationship."

:lmao

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/did-admiral-mike-rogers-tell-the-nsa-that-trump-colluded-with-the-russians/

Schindler is ex NSA. Good try son.

[djohn2oo8]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-alleged-russian-hacker-teamed-up-with-florida-gop-operative-1495724787

[djohn2oo8]

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Kremlin bots are nervous.

[DarrinS]

Schindler is ex NSA. Good try son.

https://www.vox.com/world/2017/5/19/15561842/trump-russia-louise-mensch

[spurraider21]

damn... darrin posting vox and rawstory :lol

[TSA]

damn... darrin posting vox and rawstory :lol

Add Slate to the list

http://redux.slate.com/cover-stories/2017/05/louise-mensch-and-the-rise-of-the-liberal-conspiracy-theorist.html

[Quadzilla99]

So many BOOMs..

[TSA]

Schindler is ex NSA. Good try son.

I admire that you just don't give a fuck about your credibility and continue daily to double down on stupid :lol

John Schindler is a disgrace to the NSA, and that's without bringing up the dick pic he was busted for sending on campus. Schindler committed federal crimes on DoD time sending spearphising emails to online foes while engaging in cyber warfare.

The Crazy Emails That Took Down NSA Spook John Schindler

"Remember John Schindler, the conservative talking head, retired NSA spook, and Naval War College professor who briefly went incognito after screenshots of (what appear to be) his penis leaked onto the Internet? While he has since reappeared on Twitter—where he first drew attention for defending domestic spying and criticizing Edward Snowden—he has refused to comment on the mysterious emails, sent to the Naval War College by an unnamed blogger, that prompted the school to place him on leave, and his penis under official investigation.

The emails sent to NWC, which Gawker obtained under a Freedom of Information Act request, refer to Schindler’s habit of calling himself a “spy”; detail his correspondence with an unnamed woman (who apparently received his penis photo); and, in a lengthy missive, accuse Schindler of staging “cyber warfare” against his online enemies, using “thuggish tactics” to silence NSA critics, and violating various federal laws.

Each of the messages is heavily redacted, and the identities of their senders obscured, due to the ongoing investigation into Schindler’s conduct. But the last email is detailed (and nutty) enough to earn a closer reading, so we’ve embedded it below. You can read the rest here. Let us know if anything sticks out."

http://blackbag.gawker.com/the-crazy-emails-that-took-down-nsa-spook-john-schindle-1610203101

[TSA]

You are asking me to take on the burden of something I have not definitively asserted. I do think there is more than enough probable cause to do an active investigation into whether there was collusion.

For purposes of this thread though, the ultimate topic is what Flynn actually did, whether knowingly or not, who he took money from, and then what the Golfer-In-Chief decided to do with that information, if anything.

Flynn's actions, who he took money from, and why, form the basis of that probable cause, which is why you are trying so hard to change the subject, whether you think you are doing that or not.

Developing sufficient evidence requires following lines of inquiry, and establishing facts. Any good consideration follows through on one thread at a time, so since you think that the second half of that sentence hasn't "yet" been established, let's see what evidence to support it is available, then move on.

You've said this same line before and I'm curious why. There already is an active investigation, are you wanting something more?

[TSA]

Declassified memos show FBI illegally shared spy data on Americans with private parties

http://circa.com/politics/declassified-memos-show-fbi-illegally-shared-spy-data-on-americans-with-private-parties

uh oh

RandomGuy your thoughts on djohn2oo8 greatest contribution to this thread?

[djohn2oo8]

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:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[Reck]

I thought Kushner was an aight dude but it looks like this faggot is just another mega corrupt faggot.

[djohn2oo8]

868245989014032384

[baseline bum]

I thought Kushner was an aight dude but it looks like this faggot is just another mega corrupt faggot.

Why would you ever think Cuckner was anything but a crook? Just like his dad and his father in law.

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

I thought Kushner was an aight dude but it looks like this faggot is just another mega corrupt faggot.

Literally all of team treason has been caught on tape.

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[TSA]

868251964118896640

:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

:lmao

"But her emails" :cry

:lmao

[hitmanyr2k]

Makes me wonder who's the new age "Deep throat" leaking all of this shit.

[baseline bum]

Makes me wonder who's the new age "Deep throat" leaking all of this shit.

It's gotta be Priebus, right? All the big leaks are always trying to paint Pence as unaware and not involved in any of this shit. MSNBC was claiming one of their leakers was a high ranking member of Dear Leader's staff, and Priebus and Pence are the two establishment Republicans close to Trump. It really seems like the leaker knows Trump is fucked and wants to try to keep Pence looking squeaky clean. The Trumptards always like to paint it as the Washington Post and NY Times just making shit up, but is it really hard to fathom that the party that was Never Trump is trying to take him down so they can install a reliable conservative like Pence in power? It makes me think there's a real chance of not only impeachment, but threatened conviction and removal culminating in them telling Trump he has to resign. Though I don't think Trump would play ball. He would call the GOP's bluff and try to make 19 GOP senators vote to convict. Trump doesn't give a shit about the GOP; he was a Democrat until 2011.

[Reck]

Why would you ever think Cuckner was anything but a crook? Just like his dad and his father in law.

I always thought of him as a lame cuck. Too clean cut to know what he's doing. Specially when it comes to doing illegal activities.

I bet this cuck was dragged into the Russian deals by Ivanka. Before any of this, guy was just buying random buildings throughout New York.

[baseline bum]

I always thought of him as a lame cuck. Too clean cut to know what he's doing. Specially when it comes to doing illegal activities.

I bet this cuck was dragged into the Russian deals by Ivanka. Before any of this, guy was just buying random buildings throughout New York.

Clean cut? His crooked ass father did time, that faggot is no stranger to scandal.

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[Reck]

Just toss them in jail already.

[DarrinS]

Just toss them in jail already.

Definitely. Screw the investigation. The sheer volume of empty tweets is enough.

[Reck]

Definitely. Screw the investigation. The sheer volume of empty tweets is enough.

Dude, this is not empty rethoric. He got caught on counter US intelligence. It's on the records.

But continue on with you denial.

https://media.giphy.com/media/z9AUvhAEiXOqA/giphy.gif

[TSA]

It's gotta be Priebus, right? All the big leaks are always trying to paint Pence as unaware and not involved in any of this shit. MSNBC was claiming one of their leakers was a high ranking member of Dear Leader's staff, and Priebus and Pence are the two establishment Republicans close to Trump. It really seems like the leaker knows Trump is fucked and wants to try to keep Pence looking squeaky clean. The Trumptards always like to paint it as the Washington Post and NY Times just making shit up, but is it really hard to fathom that the party that was Never Trump is trying to take him down so they can install a reliable conservative like Pence in power? It makes me think there's a real chance of not only impeachment, but threatened conviction and removal culminating in them telling Trump he has to resign. Though I don't think Trump would play ball. He would call the GOP's bluff and try to make 19 GOP senators vote to convict. Trump doesn't give a shit about the GOP; he was a Democrat until 2011.

Virginia Boney

[baseline bum]

Virginia Boney

According to the right's answer to Louise Mensch.

[djohn2oo8]

CROFL no statement from the WH.

[djohn2oo8]

It's gotta be Priebus, right? All the big leaks are always trying to paint Pence as unaware and not involved in any of this shit. MSNBC was claiming one of their leakers was a high ranking member of Dear Leader's staff, and Priebus and Pence are the two establishment Republicans close to Trump. It really seems like the leaker knows Trump is fucked and wants to try to keep Pence looking squeaky clean. The Trumptards always like to paint it as the Washington Post and NY Times just making shit up, but is it really hard to fathom that the party that was Never Trump is trying to take him down so they can install a reliable conservative like Pence in power? It makes me think there's a real chance of not only impeachment, but threatened conviction and removal culminating in them telling Trump he has to resign. Though I don't think Trump would play ball. He would call the GOP's bluff and try to make 19 GOP senators vote to convict. Trump doesn't give a shit about the GOP; he was a Democrat until 2011.

Everything you said. Plus asset forfeiture.

[djohn2oo8]

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[pgardn]

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:lmao

This one is legitimately bizzare.

What a stupid fool... Kushner can't be this foolish. This is just a radically ignorant stunt to pull. Let's put businessmen in government... Holy shit.

[ElNono]

It's gotta be Priebus, right? All the big leaks are always trying to paint Pence as unaware and not involved in any of this shit. MSNBC was claiming one of their leakers was a high ranking member of Dear Leader's staff, and Priebus and Pence are the two establishment Republicans close to Trump. It really seems like the leaker knows Trump is fucked and wants to try to keep Pence looking squeaky clean. The Trumptards always like to paint it as the Washington Post and NY Times just making shit up, but is it really hard to fathom that the party that was Never Trump is trying to take him down so they can install a reliable conservative like Pence in power? It makes me think there's a real chance of not only impeachment, but threatened conviction and removal culminating in them telling Trump he has to resign. Though I don't think Trump would play ball. He would call the GOP's bluff and try to make 19 GOP senators vote to convict. Trump doesn't give a shit about the GOP; he was a Democrat until 2011.

While that might sound reasonable, you have to keep in mind that impeachment is a political process, not a legal process... Also, the president can commute any sentence (at a political cost, obviously).

If I had to guess an endgame here, is to alienate Trump's inner circle, or expose him to a fairly severe political cost if he decides to keep them around.

[djohn2oo8]

While that might sound reasonable, you have to keep in mind that impeachment is a political process, not a legal process... Also, the president can commute any sentence (at a political cost, obviously).

If I had to guess an endgame here, is to alienate Trump's inner circle, or expose him to a fairly severe political cost if he decides to keep them around.
If the Articles of impeachment have been drawn against Trump, (they have), he loses power to self pardon or pardon anyone else.

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

There are also certain state charges that a President cannot pardon but right now it doesn't matter. Trump CANNOT pardon his way out of this.

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

The FBI’s wide-ranging criminal investigation into Russia’s meddling in the 2016 presidential election may include scrutiny of the Trump campaign’s San Antonio-based digital operation overseen by senior White House adviser Jared Kushner.

[baseline bum]

While that might sound reasonable, you have to keep in mind that impeachment is a political process, not a legal process... Also, the president can commute any sentence (at a political cost, obviously).

If I had to guess an endgame here, is to alienate Trump's inner circle, or expose him to a fairly severe political cost if he decides to keep them around.

Yes, it's a political process. Seems like the GOP might be thinking their policy is better advanced through Pence than Trump. Even under Bush the GOP never met this kind of resistance from people when trying to push their trickle down ideology. Trump makes the GOP congress' job way harder than it would be under Pence. With a Republican president this should in theory be a really productive congress but the never ending scandal with our Dear Leader is slowing the GOP's agenda to a crawl when they should be blazing through terrible bills to fuck over the bottom 90%.

[djohn2oo8]

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[Reck]

Yes, it's a political process. Seems like the GOP might be thinking their policy is better advanced through Pence than Trump. Even under Bush the GOP never met this kind of resistance from people when trying to push their trickle down ideology. Trump makes the GOP congress' job way harder than it would be under Pence. With a Republican president this should in theory be a really productive congress but the never ending scandal with our Dear Leader is slowing the GOP's agenda to a crawl when they should be blazing through terrible bills to fuck over the bottom 90%.

They're not thinking shit. They're still scared shitless of the orange bacon.

Trump will have to be hauled out in cuffs. today's republicans. :lol

[hater]

:lmao 6 months trying the soft coup and failing :lmao

:lol Shitlery throwing rocks from the bottom of the sewers

[Reck]

:lmao 6 months trying the soft coup and failing :lmao

:lol Shitlery throwing rocks from the bottom of the sewers

Coup? This ain't no third world country dude. That shit doesn't happen here.

If and when Trump gets removed, it will be done from the top down and he'll just have to take it laying down.

[djohn2oo8]

They're not thinking shit. They're still scared shitless of the orange bacon.

Trump will have to be hauled out in cuffs. today's republicans. :lol

They aren't scared of Trump. They are scared of the shit the Russians have on them.

[Adam Lambert]

yeah but emails

[djohn2oo8]

Wow McMaster.

[baseline bum]

Wow McMaster.

Another scalp for Splits?

[baseline bum]

So President Bannon is butthurt about McMaster now? :lol

Who the fuck is going to want that job? Being Bannon's bitch.

[Reck]

What happened to Mcmaster? He quit or what?

[baseline bum]

What happened to Mcmaster? He quit or what?

Bannon seems to want him out.

[TSA]

If the Articles of impeachment have been drawn against Trump, (they have :lmao), he loses power to self pardon or pardon anyone else.

[Splits]

Another scalp for Splits (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=24583)?

I want Uday Kushner

[boutons_deux]

Wow McMaster.

Sliming himself

But rumored to be fired soon, talks too much, trash thinks​ he's a pain

[monosylab1k]

So Bannon is the one leaking this shit about Kushner, right? There's no way it's not him.

[baseline bum]

So Bannon is the one leaking this shit about Kushner, right? There's no way it's not him.

Why not Priebus? Does Bannon have any kind of relationship with the enemy of the people like Priebus would?

[TSA]

Back channels are set up by every single incoming administration with both allies and foes. Can anyone tell me what crime Kushner committed?

[DarrinS]

Might as well just guess. That's what the MSM is doing.

[monosylab1k]

Why not Priebus? Does Bannon have any kind of relationship with the enemy of the people like Priebus would?

Could be Priebus, yeah, if he and Bannon are teaming up to get Jared out of Trump's ear.

[Reck]

Why not Priebus? Does Bannon have any kind of relationship with the enemy of the people like Priebus would?

He gets along better with Priebus but supposely he hates Kushner's guts.

Kushner is the reason why Trump made Bannon a cuck by demoting him.

[TSA]

Why not Priebus? Does Bannon have any kind of relationship with the enemy of the people like Priebus would?

I know you don't like Cernovich but I think he's spot on with Virginia Boney. Graham and McCain are in lock step immediately after each leak.

[TSA]

I know you don't like Cernovich but I think he's spot on with Virginia Boney. Graham and McCain are in lock step immediately after each leak.

When Senator Lindsey Graham’s long-time legislative assistant Virginia Boney, who specialized in healthcare legislation, was hired to be a legislative affairs chief for the National Security Council, more than a few heads turned. Boney, who is anti-Trump, has no meaningful national security experience. She was also hired instead of several veterans who had applied for the position.

“McMaster took her in exchange for Lindsey’s and McCain’s support,” one source with knowledge of the deal told me. Several others confirmed this assessment, noting Boney is completely unqualified to be at NSC.
Before working at NSC, Boney was, Deputy Director of Appropriations and Projects for Senator Graham. She specialized in healthcare policy and reform.

Multiple sources on Capital Hill have told me that if they want to know what President Donald Trump is doing, they talk to Boney, because, “She loves to talk about how important and plugged in she is.”
Many of the leaks about Trump have come from Congressional members and staff via Boney, who is also close with Senator John McCain.

https://medium.com/@Cernovich/lindsey-graham-virginia-mckay-boney-nsc-leaks-59be4185e31f

Boney’s betrayal of trust is what we’ve come to expect from the Trump White House where, according to the running joke, “The only way you can get hired is if you’ve Tweeted #NeverTrump.”

[djohn2oo8]

So Bannon is the one leaking this shit about Kushner, right? There's no way it's not him.

No one in the white house is leaking this about Kushner. Germany is one of the countries with Tapes on Trump's people. This is coming from overseas. Whoever is leaking this has PROOF of recorded conversations.

[baseline bum]

I know you don't like Cernovich but I think he's spot on with Virginia Boney. Graham and McCain are in lock step immediately after each leak.

:lol Cernovich is the Trumptard version of Mensch

[BanditHiro]

Back channels are set up by every single incoming administration with both allies and foes. Can anyone tell me what crime Kushner committed?

lying about said meeting on your security clearance form is a felony...you also have to be in compliance with FOIA, Presidential Records Act, and the Espionage Act. Using Russian equipment to try to pass messages without the US government not knowing is not a back channel, it's basically espionage.

[baseline bum]

Could be Priebus, yeah, if he and Bannon are teaming up to get Jared out of Trump's ear.

I was thinking more Priebus being behind a lot of the major leaks to try to salvage Pence and the rest of the GOP from Trump's continual scandals. I can't imagine Bannon has many allies in the West Wing other than Trump.

[TSA]

:lol Cernovich is the Trumptard version of Mensch

I wouldn't go that far. Cernovich at least follows through and is correct on at least 50% of his claims.

[baseline bum]

I wouldn't go that far. Cernovich at least follows through and is correct on at least 50% of his claims.

Didn't you lose your account because of Cernovich?

[TSA]

No one in the white house is leaking this about Kushner. Germany is one of the countries with Tapes on Trump's people. This is coming from overseas. Whoever is leaking this has PROOF of recorded conversations.

:lmao

[TSA]

Didn't you lose your account because of Cernovich?

Not even remotely close

[TSA]

lying about said meeting on your security clearance form is a felony...you also have to be in compliance with FOIA, Presidential Records Act, and the Espionage Act. Using Russian equipment to try to pass messages without the US government not knowing is not a back channel, it's basically espionage.

White House informed the FBI the day after the submission that Kushner would provide supplemental information to the form. He's not getting charged with a felony.

[Adam Lambert]

I wouldn't go that far. Cernovich at least follows through and is correct on at least 50% of his claims.

lol you are so full of shit

can you imagine if any of the msm had just a 50% success rate?

stop making excuses for your alt-reich, alt-facts heroes. especially when you spend hours a day here "lol"ing at the same supposedly lying retards on the lib side.

[baseline bum]

Not even remotely close

Cernovich said Obama ordered Trump Tower tapped right? Then djohn2oo8 showed that wasn't possible.

[DarrinS]

No one in the white house is leaking this about Kushner. Germany is one of the countries with Tapes on Trump's people. This is coming from overseas. Whoever is leaking this has PROOF of recorded conversations.


:lmao

[TSA]

Cernovich said Obama ordered Trump Tower tapped right? Then djohn2oo8 showed that wasn't possible.

It happened so long ago I don't really remember the dea tails but I think I said the President could order a surveillance warrant when in fact the President didn't need a warrant for surveillance and could go around the FISA court for surveillance through his attorney general.

[spurraider21]

Cernovich said Obama ordered Trump Tower tapped right? Then djohn2oo8 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14870) showed that wasn't possible.technically their bet was on whether or not the president can order a fisa warrant, which was shown to be wrong. the president can bypass a warrant and go straight to surveillance, but the AG needs to sign off on it with a sworn affidavit (iirc) and it cannot be used to target american nationals at all, so it wouldn't have worked against trump/trump tower, so they were wrong either way

[TSA]

lol you are so full of shit

can you imagine if any of the msm had just a 50% success rate?

stop making excuses for your alt-reich, alt-facts heroes. especially when you spend hours a day here "lol"ing at the same supposedly lying retards on the lib side.

I don't need to imagine if the MSM had just a 50% success rate we are watching it happen daily.

[DarrinS]

Papers now using anonymous letter as a source. An anonymous fucking letter! Smh

[TSA]

technically their bet was on whether or not the president can order a fisa warrant, which was shown to be wrong. the president can bypass a warrant and go straight to surveillance, but the AG needs to sign off on it with a sworn affidavit (iirc) and it cannot be used to target american nationals at all, so it wouldn't have worked against trump/trump tower, so they were wrong either way

:lol believing that after this just came out

Report: Obama era NSA admits to years of illegal searches on Americans


A bombshell report claims that the NSA, under then President Obama, conducted years of illegal searches of American's private data. The report appears in the online publication Circa and details how once-classified documents show how the spy agency failed to disclose the abuses.

According to a previously classified report reviewed by Circa, one in 20 electronic communications by Americans were scooped up and kept by the NSA. The NSA admitted that the actions of the so-called 702 database potentially violated the fourth amendment protections of millions of Americans. This even after the spy agency's own supervisors agreed in 2011 to follow certain safeguards. The publication goes on to say the Obama administration self-disclosed the violations late last year just before President Donald Trump was elected. The admittance of wrongdoing was made before the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. The agency received a strong rebuke from the court according to Circa.

In early January, shortly before President Trump's inauguration, Obama administration officials changed the rules regarding the handling of sensitive information of Americans scooped up in NSA data collection. The rule change did away with the previous safeguards and allowed wide dispersion of information on individuals to be spread across several agencies.


The American Civil Liberties Union expressed shock to Circa that the abuses were admitted by government officials. Over the last several months, various operatives with the government have tried to tamp down claims of intentional wiretapping by the former administration.

You can read the full report from Circa as well as the FISA court report in the link to the side of this story.

http://www.valleynewslive.com/content/news/Report-Obama-era-NSA-admits-to-illegally-spying-on-Americans---423976234.html

[TSA]

Papers now using anonymous letter as a source. An anonymous fucking letter! Smh

Step up from being read a memo over the phone you've never seen

[spurraider21]

I don't need to imagine if the MSM had just a 50% success rate we are watching it happen daily.ok, so which of these are fake? we've got abc and cnn here

https://i.gyazo.com/f9675b61b153a36509715c5797b2fc86.png

https://i.gyazo.com/7cb887dedb970e8ed0a5510532692ae2.png

[BanditHiro]

Papers now using anonymous letter as a source. An anonymous fucking letter! Smh

would you prefer they give their sources nicknames like say Deepthroat...

[spurraider21]

:lol believing that after this just came out

Report: Obama era NSA admits to years of illegal searches on Americans


A bombshell report claims that the NSA, under then President Obama, conducted years of illegal searches of American's private data. The report appears in the online publication Circa and details how once-classified documents show how the spy agency failed to disclose the abuses.

According to a previously classified report reviewed by Circa, one in 20 electronic communications by Americans were scooped up and kept by the NSA. The NSA admitted that the actions of the so-called 702 database potentially violated the fourth amendment protections of millions of Americans. This even after the spy agency's own supervisors agreed in 2011 to follow certain safeguards. The publication goes on to say the Obama administration self-disclosed the violations late last year just before President Donald Trump was elected. The admittance of wrongdoing was made before the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. The agency received a strong rebuke from the court according to Circa.

In early January, shortly before President Trump's inauguration, Obama administration officials changed the rules regarding the handling of sensitive information of Americans scooped up in NSA data collection. The rule change did away with the previous safeguards and allowed wide dispersion of information on individuals to be spread across several agencies.


The American Civil Liberties Union expressed shock to Circa that the abuses were admitted by government officials. Over the last several months, various operatives with the government have tried to tamp down claims of intentional wiretapping by the former administration.

You can read the full report from Circa as well as the FISA court report in the link to the side of this story.

http://www.valleynewslive.com/content/news/Report-Obama-era-NSA-admits-to-illegally-spying-on-Americans---423976234.htmlwere those directly ordered by the president and AG pursuant to the statute we found for your bet?

[TSA]

ok, so which of these are fake? we've got abc and cnn here

https://i.gyazo.com/f9675b61b153a36509715c5797b2fc86.png

https://i.gyazo.com/7cb887dedb970e8ed0a5510532692ae2.png

:lol

[TSA]

were those directly ordered by the president and AG pursuant to the statute we found for your bet?

My post had nothing to do with the bet but your naivety in thinking surveillance laws would be followed.

[spurraider21]

My post had nothing to do with the bet but your naivety in thinking surveillance laws would be followed.oh. yeah, then your bet about laws is meaningless since people can always break laws

[TSA]

oh. yeah, then your bet about laws is meaningless since people can always break laws

Ok.

[TSA]

Can surveillance obtained illegally be used in court?

[spurraider21]

Can surveillance obtained illegally be used in court?under certain circumstances

[Reck]

:cry I dont even remember getting embarrassed and losing my account. :cry

:lmao cuck

[Adam Lambert]

I don't need to imagine if the MSM had just a 50% success rate we are watching it happen daily.

no were not.

[Adam Lambert]

poor delusional loser. what a ridiculous and pointless existence

[DarrinS]

Hey John,

There's a better place for your shitposts

https://www.washingtonpost.com/anonymous-news-tips/?utm_term=.b59e81bfd067

[TSA]

under certain circumstances

which are?

[spurraider21]

which are?i'm admittedly much less familiar with national security/intelligence type stuff, usually the feds can get away with a lot of shit in the name of national security, as it's considered a compelling govt interest... but in a typical criminal proceeding?

the typical exceptions to the exclusionary rule are...

independent evidence (as in you have illegally acquired evidence, like email contents, but then later on acquire it legally. that can come in)
inevitable discovery (illegally acquire evidence that was later almost certain to be acquired legally anyway)
attenuation (the connection between the evidence and the illegal means of acquiring it is very remote)
good faith (if there is a warrant and it turns out to be invalid, but the cop relied on the defective warrant in good faith that it was in fact, valid)

and illegally acquired testimony/admissions can almost always be used to impeach a witness

you caught me on a good day, spent this past week reviewing crim law and crim pro :lol

[ElNono]

If the Articles of impeachment have been drawn against Trump, (they have), he loses power to self pardon or pardon anyone else.

Impeachment happens when a legislative body formally levels charges against an official. Then a legislative vote follows. The entire process is political, the judiciary is not involved.

What that means is this Congress would have to vote to have Trump removed.

What I meant by pardons, is that he could pardon people like Cuckner if they get convicted (as long as he's still the president), with the obvious political cost.

[ElNono]

Yes, it's a political process. Seems like the GOP might be thinking their policy is better advanced through Pence than Trump. Even under Bush the GOP never met this kind of resistance from people when trying to push their trickle down ideology. Trump makes the GOP congress' job way harder than it would be under Pence. With a Republican president this should in theory be a really productive congress but the never ending scandal with our Dear Leader is slowing the GOP's agenda to a crawl when they should be blazing through terrible bills to fuck over the bottom 90%.

There's a cost to be paid for the party though, especially since Trump appear to still be popular with it's base. You pull that stunt without convincing evidence, and next time around you'll have Ted Nugent as POTUS.

[baseline bum]

There's a cost to be paid for the party though, especially since Trump appear to still be popular with it's base. You pull that stunt without convincing evidence, and next time around you'll have Ted Nugent as POTUS.

I'm leaning towards there being convincing evidence ever since our Dear Leader fired Comey.

[TSA]

i'm admittedly much less familiar with national security/intelligence type stuff, usually the feds can get away with a lot of shit in the name of national security, as it's considered a compelling govt interest... but in a typical criminal proceeding?

the typical exceptions to the exclusionary rule are...

independent evidence (as in you have illegally acquired evidence, like email contents, but then later on acquire it legally. that can come in)
inevitable discovery (illegally acquire evidence that was later almost certain to be acquired legally anyway)
attenuation (the connection between the evidence and the illegal means of acquiring it is very remote)
good faith (if there is a warrant and it turns out to be invalid, but the cop relied on the defective warrant in good faith that it was in fact, valid)

and illegally acquired testimony/admissions can almost always be used to impeach a witness

you caught me on a good day, spent this past week reviewing crim law and crim pro :lol

Thanks for the info but was hoping for clarification on illegal surveillance/intelligence used in court for what we are witnessing now

[TSA]

I'm leaning towards there being convincing evidence ever since our Dear Leader fired Comey.

Speaking of Comey what ever happened to his "memos"?

[baseline bum]

Speaking of Comey what ever happened to his "memos"?

Don't know

[DarrinS]

Fever pitched

[Adam Lambert]

Fever pitched

:cry top talking about things i dont want to talk about :cry
:cry why isnt anyone talking about youtube trending video bias :cry

[spurraider21]

Thanks for the info but was hoping for clarification on illegal surveillance/intelligence used in court for what we are witnessing nowyeah but where else would that information be used as evidence in court... it would be a criminal charge ultimately, so those rules would still apply

[Thread]

I'm leaning towards there being convincing evidence ever since our Dear Leader fired Comey.

Yeah, bum, Comey thought he had Trump set to permit him to sit there for 10 years and sop up the gravy. No. Get the fuck up & get the fuck out.

Trump mopped the fuckin' floor with his fuckin' ass.

P.S., Max is reporting that Trump is going to kick that global warming deal right the fuck out on to Pennsylvania Avenue.

[ElNono]

yeah but where else would that information be used as evidence in court... it would be a criminal charge ultimately, so those rules would still apply

You should add that the government can also request any case closed when natsec is involved. That was used a lot when civil liberty groups tried to sue phone providers for participating in the metadata program.

[Thread]

Bloozmann1 hour ago

Remember when Donald Trump was business partners with the Russian government
and his company got 53 million from the Russian government investment fund
called Rusnano that was started by Vladimir Putin and is referred to as
"Putin's Child"?
Oh wait that wasn't Trump it was John Podesta.]]]

[Thread]

RedBeaux (https://disqus.com/by/pnmax-e84401ad27c4cfb9815776eb9432ff17/) • 4 hours ago (http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Dershowitz-Kushner-Moscow-Obama/2017/05/27/id/792753/#comment-3328071498)The real and appropriate question here would be is who is actually stupid enough to trust Bend Over Barry and his unashamedly corrupt appointees? To date I have found no online video, public university address or even simple pictures or gestures of Obo doing anything that could be considered mildly honorable or good. The whole world hated him for good reason, but evil groups and governments were happy to capitalize on the power they garnered under his weakness and self serving deviance. One only need to look at whom sings his praises to realize what a waste of a creature he really is. That said, O has done America more damage than the whole of the Russian government is even capable of.]]]

[Chucho]

Bloozmann1 hour ago

Remember when Donald Trump was business partners with the Russian government
and his company got 53 million from the Russian government investment fund
called Rusnano that was started by Vladimir Putin and is referred to as
"Putin's Child"?
Oh wait that wasn't Trump it was John Podesta.]]]


More Ls for the Fascist LOLeftists.

[Chucho]

Yeah, bum, Comey thought he had Trump set to permit him to sit there for 10 years and sop up the gravy. No. Get the fuck up & get the fuck out.

Trump mopped the fuckin' floor with his fuckin' ass.

P.S., Max is reporting that Trump is going to kick that global warming deal right the fuck out on to Pennsylvania Avenue.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/eiGKA6iCAZg/hqdefault.jpg

[spurraider21]

Bloozmann1 hour ago

Remember when Donald Trump was business partners with the Russian government
and his company got 53 million from the Russian government investment fund
called Rusnano that was started by Vladimir Putin and is referred to as
"Putin's Child"?
Oh wait that wasn't Trump it was John Podesta.]]]FAKE NEWS

[djohn2oo8]

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[TSA]

869184443508031489



Louise Mensch has tweeted this story 20 times in 30 mins

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Can you post 20 tweets of the NYT story in 30 mins :rollin

[djohn2oo8]

869188102291587072
:lol

[Reck]

869184443508031489

Wow that all sounds really gay. Does Jared also massages Trump's balls or is that TSA's job?

Also LOL @ political win. Jared Doesn't know shit. Way in over his head.

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[boutons_deux]

Russians playing chess, Repugs getting played, and they're too naive to know it, exactly like the low-wage, low-education racists who got suckered into electing Trash.

[boutons_deux]

Jared Kushner is in deep trouble—and his White House enemies are feeling pretty good about that (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/5/28/1666800/-Jared-Kushner-is-in-deep-trouble-and-his-White-House-enemies-are-feeling-pretty-good-about-that)

There is no "legitimate" reason why Trump's transition team should have sought out a secret line of communication with a foreign nation that the American government wouldn't know about.

Sunday shows be damned; there is no spin that makes that "better."

That's colluding with a foreign government in defiance of your own no matter how you look at it, and

is prima facie evidence that

there was something going on between the top members of Team Trump and Russian officials that they didn't want American officials getting wind of—and

that's even without considering the breaking news that Kushner had still more conversations with Russian officials that he did not previously bother to mention (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/5/26/1666443/-Jared-Kushner-had-STILL-MORE-undisclosed-contacts-with-the-Russian-ambassador).

certain other people in the always-tumultuous White House, people who do not like Golden Boy and find his presence irritating, might be a wee bit happy about that (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/27/jared-kushner-russia-scandal-white-house-role-238890).


“No one knows what to make of it because he’s there every day, making decisions, in the Oval,” [a senior administration official] said. “So everyone just tries to act normal.”

[...]But outside of Kushner’s small circle of trust – a group that includes Kushner’s wife Ivanka Trump, and advisers Hope Hicks, Josh Raffel, Dina Powell, Gary Cohn, Chris Liddell and Reed Cordish –

many West Wing advisers are simultaneously rattled by the backchannel revelations, and feeling a sense of schadenfreude. [...]

Internally at the White House, according to multiple sources, there is a feeling of resentment among people about Kushner’s special status as a family member, and a feeling that it’s about time for him to have a turn under the gun.


I don't think we have to worry about the members of this White House colluding with each other to sweep their worst scandals under the rug. The members of this White House would feed each other to passing bears, if the opportunity arose.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/5/28/1666800/-Jared-Kushner-is-in-deep-trouble-and-his-White-House-enemies-are-feeling-pretty-good-about-that?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29

[baseline bum]

Why would Trump's team be happy over this? No way you can separate Cuckner away from Dear Leader in this probe.

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FBI now focusing on mysterious 30-minute meeting Kushner had with Putin banker all

President Donald Trump’s adviser and son-in-law Jared Kushner is now under investigation by the Federal Bureau of Investigation for a meeting he had with a representative from a sanctioned Russian bank in December.

Kushner’s meeting with Russian banker and Vladimir Putin ally Sergey Gorkov in December 2016 is, according to the Times, “now being scrutinized by the F.B.I. as part of its investigation into alleged Russian attempts to disrupt last year’s presidential campaign, and whether any of Mr. Trump’s advisers assisted in such efforts.”

Kushner has also come under media scrutiny for another meeting he had with a Russian national — in December, Kushner met with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak in Trump Tower to establish a back-channel with the Kremlin.

The move is considered out-of-the ordinary for presidential transitions, and disgraced national security adviser Michael Flynn was also reportedly at the meeting.

Gorkov’s bank, Vnesheconombank (VEB), was placed under sanction (https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/OFAC-Enforcement/Pages/20140716.aspx) in 2014 by the American government for their role as a government-owned financial institution in Russia’s annexation of Crimea.

According to the Times, VEB also has “been used by Russian intelligence to plant spies in the United States.

In March 2016, an agent of Russia’s foreign intelligence service, known as the S.V.R., who was caught posing (https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/evgeny-buryakov-pleads-guilty-manhattan-federal-court-connection-conspiracy-work) as an employee of the bank in New York, pleaded guilty to spying against the United States.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/fbi-now-focusing-on-mysterious-30-minute-meeting-kushner-had-with-putin-banker-ally-report/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[djohn2oo8]

Why would Trump's team be happy over this? No way you can separate Cuckner away from Dear Leader in this probe.

Because they are morons. It may be Pence thinking he can get away with it, which he won't.

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[boutons_deux]

Why would Trump's team be happy over this? No way you can separate Cuckner away from Dear Leader in this probe.

Kushner's fuckups hurt the WH, and maybe some of the WH staffers GAF about the WH/Exec fuction, rather than just Trash the asshole soft authoritarian sicko ignoramus.

[pgardn]

Why would Trump's team be happy over this? No way you can separate Cuckner away from Dear Leader in this probe.

Because Trump has hired a bunch of a-holes interested in gaining some sort of position by backstabbing.
No honor among thieves. This is just a ridiculously bad mix of people. This is a horribly inept, corrosive group. There is clearly a group within the WH that wants Kushner gone.

[TSA]

Media is back to calling it a back channel. Story will be dead in a week. Wonder who the next failed target will be the pickings are slim.

[baseline bum]

Because Trump has hired a bunch of a-holes interested in gaining some sort of position by backstabbing.
No honor among thieves. This is just a ridiculously bad mix of people. This is a horribly inept, corrosive group. There is clearly a group within the WH that wants Kushner gone.

I don't know how Kushner wouldn't take Trump down with him. I still think it's Priebus and his people trying to take our Dear Leader down for Pence's benefit. None of these leaks ever seem to do anything but make Pence look like the odd guy out who has no idea what's going on. The GOP doesn't give a shit about Trump, he was a trojan horse to get them into power but now is just a nuisance getting in the way of them passing their agenda into law.

[spurraider21]

Media is back to calling it a back channel. Story will be dead in a week. Wonder who the next failed target will be the pickings are slim.
well, 50% of media is fake news, so maybe going back to calling it a back channel is fake.

[pgardn]

I don't know how Kushner wouldn't take Trump down with him. I still think it's Priebus and his people trying to take our Dear Leader down for Pence's benefit. None of these leaks ever seem to do anything but make Pence look like the odd guy out who has no idea what's going on. The GOP doesn't give a shit about Trump, he was a trojan horse to get them into power but now is just a nuisance getting in the way of them passing their agenda into law.

There are so many liars in the WH staff it's extremely difficult to tell. When you get untrustworthy maggots infighting for an egomaniac's attention.... When Trump started selecting and firing so many people during the campaign I remember a press guy said this would be a bonanza if Trump became president, He nailed it.

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There are so many liars in the WH staff it's extremely difficult to tell. When you get untrustworthy maggots infighting for an egomaniac's attention.... When Trump started selecting and firing so many people during the campaign I remember a press guy said this would be a bonanza if Trump became president, He nailed it.

They're fucking themselves over with how serious the collusion allegations are against the Trump campaign and the obstruction of justice it looks like Trump has been engaged in. Unless it's the establishment GOP types who want Trump gone. Establishment GOP are the only people in Trump's camp who gain by tearing the president down. It just doesn't seem like infighting from people pissed off at each other to me. If it was you'd probably be hearing dirt on Pence too.

[pgardn]

Media is back to calling it a back channel. Story will be dead in a week. Wonder who the next failed target will be the pickings are slim.

Yes it will be dead as Trump et al will produce another royal f-up.
It's a never ending loop of The Three Stooges flicks.
If Trump gets hanged for anything it won't be for collusion with Russians. It will likely be a coverup of something he would never be impeached for. It's a clown show.

[baseline bum]

Yes it will be dead as Trump et al will produce another royal f-up.
It's a never ending loop of The Three Stooges flicks.
If Trump gets hanged for anything it won't be for collusion with Russians. It will likely be a coverup of something he would never be impeached for. It's a clown show.

I think he's probably guilty. Otherwise why would people in his own camp be so empowered to try to take him down in the press? They're dribbling out these horrible stories about Trump day after day after day to keep things in the news. It just seems like they're trying to give the GOP congress the cover they'd need to eventually replace Trump with Pence. It really is starting to look like a coup IMO, and I don't think the GOP establishment would have the balls to try it if there was nothing to the Russia story. The blowback from GOP voters would be enormous if there was any doubt.

[pgardn]

They're fucking themselves over with how serious the collusion allegations are against the Trump campaign and the obstruction of justice it looks like Trump has been engaged in. Unless it's the establishment GOP types who want Trump gone. Establishment GOP are the only people in Trump's camp who gain by tearing the president down. It just doesn't seem like infighting from people pissed off at each other to me. If it was you'd probably be hearing dirt on Pence too.

There has been dirt on Pence. These people are going for books, radio shows and cable news positions as well. They know Trump could get rid of them at anytime. The closer you get to Trump the more your name gets put out. They are advertising for the $ later. He picked a few competent people who will go down gracefully, but most of these people are just hacks and whores IMO. Just wait till this presidency ends. The public is fascinated with the inept, botch-brained Cheeto. The number of people who have turned positions down is telling. These are the folks that don't need this BS. Trump attracts attention sluts who are pulling each other's hair out to sleep with him, share his moments of sick, impulsive behavior. Then they will spill it all for $

[baseline bum]

There has been dirt on Pence. These people are going for books, radio shows and cable news positions as well. They know Trump could get rid of them at anytime. The closer you get to Trump the more your name gets put out. They are advertising for the $ later. He picked a few competent people who will go down gracefully, but most of these people are just hacks and whores IMO. Just wait till this presidency ends. The public is fascinated with the inept, botch-brained Cheeto. The number of people who have turned positions down is telling. These are the folks that don't need this BS. Trump attracts attention sluts who are pulling each other's hair out to sleep with him, share his moments of sick, impulsive behavior. Then they will spill it all for $

I could see that, but what we keep hearing about Pence is he had no knowledge of Flynn being under investigation, how the rest of the transition team kept Pence in the dark. Pence was the guy who got lied to by Flynn, he was the victim.

But god I can't imagine what Spicer's tell all book is going to be like. That guy is going to get so rich off being Trump's Goebbels.

[pgardn]

I could see that, but what we keep hearing about Pence is he had no knowledge of Flynn being under investigation, how the rest of the transition team kept Pence in the dark. Pence was the guy who got lied to by Flynn, he was the victim.

But god I can't imagine what Spicer's tell all book is going to be like. That guy is going to get so rich off being Trump's Goebbels.

Its the Spicer, Kelly-Anne, Flynn types that will be the spillers. I think people like Bannon really want to influence Trump and believed they could sway the Cheeto in the direction of their personal paranoia. Personally I think the run of the mill Republicans who really want to govern are divided and have little clue how to handle this tornado of whimsical foolishness.

[djohn2oo8]

I could see that, but what we keep hearing about Pence is he had no knowledge of Flynn being under investigation, how the rest of the transition team kept Pence in the dark. Pence was the guy who got lied to by Flynn, he was the victim.

But god I can't imagine what Spicer's tell all book is going to be like. That guy is going to get so rich off being Trump's Goebbels.

Spicer is fucked too.

[djohn2oo8]

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:lmao Early in the morning

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See this BB

You really have to wonder about the motivation of anyone signing on to this crazy train. It will be a mix of serious folks who actually think they make a difference (policy and "do something" positions which will be very frustrating because the boss can't keep on task); Coupled with anyone who wants anything to do with communications, PR, advisor on the aforementioned. Seriously, why in Gods name would anyone take on this type of job (communications) when the boss basically says I change my mind overnight, hope you don't get caught in that mixer, good luck? " It used to be I could put my name on a hotel, school, or steak and it turned to gold" This is how this delusional orange man thinks.

This whole WH is a giant sieve. There is no need for a Cosmo "deep state" Ohhhh, Shiver me timbers, it's the "deep state" The intelligence community has always had ways to leak. But for this administration we need to make up something unique and scary when there is a large tuna smacking you right in the face? Seriously stupid fanciful wishing... A Fckn Tuna is slamming you directly in the face and they invent a mechanized White Shark to blame for the pummeling... Wake the fck up I say.


Cosmo's car won't start so he immediately takes to solving the problem by ascertaining the number of contrails laid down the previous night depositing unique chemical compounds on the tires...

These are NOT people who find solutions, they invent problems. In my short time on this Earth I have learned to distinguish between people. It's useful.

[boutons_deux]

"You really have to wonder about the motivation of anyone signing on to this crazy train"

People get stars in their eyes, knowing that a job in WH looks great on the CV, esp for the 40% of people/employers who still approve of Trash.

[pgardn]

"You really have to wonder about the motivation of anyone signing on to this crazy train"

People get stars in their eyes, knowing that a job in WH looks great on the CV, esp for the 40% of people/employers who still approve of Trash.




As I had stated before. Yes, of course.

But the competent people like McMaster who then are forced to make a deadly decision. Why? I think the guy probably thought he was serving the Nation. Now, mud.... And he is not the first to face this fall from the trusted, competent people. You have to wonder about the quality of the people who sign up for the actual jobs involved in getting things done. What competent person with a good reputation wants to get involved in this mess... Let's go cliff diving...

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Dude got himself a lifeboat before this happens.

https://media.giphy.com/media/IK5Y6cW1OIWkw/giphy.gif

[baseline bum]

But the competent people like McMaster who then are forced to make a deadly decision. Why? I think the guy probably thought he was serving the Nation

Just like Colin Powell. That guy would have probably been president by now had Bush not trashed his credibility with that mobile weapons lab report he gave to the UN where he just showed pictures that someone had drawn.

[boutons_deux]

"competent people like McMaster"

Like Colon Powell, McM is sliming himself, gettting dirty playing with pigs, shrugging off Kushner's request to use RUSSIAN crypto channels for Trump Org business as "normal".

[DarrinS]

The nefarious "back channel"

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/la-oe-mcmanus15-2009mar15-column.html

[spurraider21]

The nefarious "back channel"

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/la-oe-mcmanus15-2009mar15-column.html
i heard LA times is fake news

[DarrinS]

Looky here

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/07/secret-negotiations-gross-hernandez-kerry-pope-obama-castro-cuba

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For all those who say there's "No crime or evidence of collusion and cooperation" with Russia... (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/5/28/1666739/-For-all-those-who-say-there-s-No-crime-or-evidence-of-collusion-and-cooperation-with-Russia)

https://images.dailykos.com/images/372930/story_image/GettyImages-635144484.jpg?1488493756


We are frankly far, far past the point of no return.

This story of Russia is simply not going away, people who are resistant need to get used to that fact because almost everyday we learn more incriminating facts about how various members of the Trump administration have behaved in relation to Russia.


But, still there are those who claim that in and of itself nothing has “proven” that the Trump administration has done anything illegal, in exchange, in collusion or in coordination with Russia.

As I will discuss, there may not yet be the definitive “smoking gun” — but

there is so much smoke that almost any other possibility has been virtually obliterated.

Let me state up front that the claim that there was “No crime” committed is simply false. Cyber Espionage is a Felony punishable by up to 10-years in prison (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1030). Collaborating or cooperating with a felon is known as conspiracy and is punishable by up to five years in prison. (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/371)

If two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.


So providing support, any support, to anyone who has committed a felony, is also a felony. Even when that supports happens after the initial criminal act (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3).

Whoever, knowing that an offense against the United States has been committed, receives, relieves, comforts or assists the offender in order to hinder or prevent his apprehension, trial or punishment, is an accessory after the fact.

Except as otherwise expressly provided by any Act of Congress, an accessory after the fact shall be imprisoned not more than one-half the maximum term of imprisonment or (notwithstanding section 3571) fined not more than one-half the maximum fine prescribed for the punishment of the principal, or both; or if the principal is punishable by life imprisonment or death, the accessory shall be imprisoned not more than 15 years.


When it comes to direct definitive evidence that this may have occurred within the Trump campaign the closest items we have come either from Intel intercepts of conversations between the Russians about Trump and associates, and various reports from persons familiar with those conversations.

From foreign intel services we have this claim: Investigators now have ‘concrete evidence’ of collusion between Trump camp and Russian government. (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/apr/13/british-spies-first-to-spot-trump-team-links-russia)


A source close to the investigation into President Donald Trump’s campaign and its ties to Russia says that there is now “specific concrete and corroborative evidence” that individuals within Trump’s immediate orbit coordinated with Russian intelligence operatives during the election.

The Guardian said on Thursday (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/apr/13/british-spies-first-to-spot-trump-team-links-russia) that the U.K.’s Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) has been watching the Trump camp since late 2015, having noticed suspicious “interactions” between Trump associates and well-known Russian agents.


From U.S. intelligence we have documentation of at least 18 meetings and communications between Trump associates and Russian Government (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-contacts-idUSKCN18E106?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Reuters%2FworldNews+%28Reuter s+World+News%29) and Intelligence prior to the inauguration.

WASHINGTON — Phone records and intercepted calls show that members of Donald J. Trump (http://www.nytimes.com/topic/person/donald-trump?inline=nyt-per)’s 2016 presidential campaign and other Trump associates had repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials in the year before the election, according to four current and former American officials.

American law enforcement and intelligence agencies intercepted the communications around the same time they were discovering evidence that Russia (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/countriesandterritories/russiaandtheformersovietunion/index.html?inline=nyt-geo) was trying to disrupt the presidential election by hacking into the Democratic National Committee, three of the officials said. The intelligence agencies then sought to learn whether the Trump campaign was colluding with the Russians on the hacking or other efforts to influence the election.

The officials interviewed in recent weeks said that, so far, they had seen no evidence of such cooperation.


Repeated communications with “No evidence of cooperation” has been the line we’ve heard from James Comey and from former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper — but what Clapper has stated is that he wasn’t specifically informed that FBI was even investigating (https://thinkprogress.org/trump-james-clapper-no-collusion-sally-yates-caf3fddc5cb5) — where as former CIA Director James Brennen said he did see “suspicious communications” between Trump and Russia and that he’d referred it to the FBI. (http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/ex-cia-chief-intel-shows-possibility-trump-campaign-was-actively-conspiring-colluding-with-russia/)

“I’m aware of information and intelligence that revealed contacts and interactions between officials and U.S. persons involved in the Trump campaign that I was concerned about because of known Russian efforts on such individuals,” Brennan told members of the House Intelligence Committee.

“And it raised questions in my mind whether or not the Russians were able to gain the cooperation of those individuals,” he added.

“I don’t know whether or not such collusion existed. I don’t know. But I know there was a sufficient basis of information to require investigation by the [FBI] to determine whether or not U.S. persons were actively conspiring, colluding with Russian officials.”

... LOTS more, Too Long Will Not Read for you dumbfuck Trash fellators.



https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/5/28/1666739/-For-all-those-who-say-there-s-No-crime-or-evidence-of-collusion-and-cooperation-with-Russia?detail=emaildkre

[djohn2oo8]

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Called it last night. The Kushner back channel was a non-story. On to the next attempt.