View Full Version : Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
Spurs Homer
03-12-2019, 12:57 PM
Interesting thing that someone brought up is that if Trump stays... he gets to campaign on his record. He is such a shitbag, that having his name on the top of the ticket means Dems keep or add to their majority in time for the 2020 census district redrawing, as well as having a decent chance of taking the Senate. (Trump party has to defend far more seats in 2020 than the Dems)
Keeping Trump means that either the Trump party officials have to embrace him, or distance themselves trying to be Republicans again. either way it leads to infighting.
RandomGuy
03-12-2019, 02:20 PM
And :lmao @ Pelosi’s super secret investigators
Seems like half the Republican party leadership photographed with a massage parlor sex pimp lady selling access to the President of the United States at the golf course/hotel that he owns and continues to profit from would be a scandal, right?
Pavlov
03-12-2019, 02:30 PM
Seems like half the Republican party leadership photographed with a massage parlor sex pimp lady selling access to the President of the United States at the golf course/hotel that he owns and continues to profit from would be a scandal, right?Dude that involves trafficking real women. Do you have any stories trafficking imaginary kids?
Spurs Homer
03-12-2019, 02:42 PM
Dude that involves trafficking real women. Do you have any stories trafficking imaginary kids?
Lolololol
sadly
this is spot on!
spurraider21
03-12-2019, 02:56 PM
Don't know who booboo is and...
yeah it really is nutz -
to want criminals prosecuted, traitors exposed and removed and the rule of law to prevail.
Really nutz to want to defend your country and call out sleeping people who continue to sleep while Russia/Trump destroys the usa from within.
I will take the "nut" label if this is where we are at.
boutons
Spurs Homer
03-12-2019, 03:23 PM
boutons
look at his postings
pretty accurate if you are honest
never understood those comments - ive gone back to read his stuff and cannot find inaccuracies or distortions
Chris
03-12-2019, 06:01 PM
https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1105568771291271168
TSA
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Chris
03-12-2019, 06:02 PM
https://twitter.com/GeorgePapa19/status/1105581328404144128
Chris
03-12-2019, 06:23 PM
https://twitter.com/JohnWHuber/status/1105550063856730117
https://twitter.com/JohnWHuber/status/1105550071461003264
https://twitter.com/JohnWHuber/status/1105550075231694848
https://twitter.com/JohnWHuber/status/1105550079316975618
https://twitter.com/JohnWHuber/status/1105550084392083456
Chris
03-12-2019, 08:47 PM
https://twitter.com/RealJack/status/1105641547486425088
Quiet up in here :lol
pgardn
03-12-2019, 09:27 PM
https://twitter.com/RealJack/status/1105641547486425088
Quiet up in here :lol
Could you please try and get an article from an even more disreputable source?
I dare you.
pgardn
03-12-2019, 09:27 PM
look at his postings
pretty accurate if you are honest
never understood those comments - ive gone back to read his stuff and cannot find inaccuracies or distortions
Which is why he called you boo boo.
Chris
03-12-2019, 09:35 PM
Could you please try and get an article from an even more disreputable source?
I dare you.
Are you disputing something, or is this a disconnect?
I already said what I'm doing with my screen name.
Are you going to make new alts based on my screen name?
If djohn disappears for good I might bring back TheSanityAnnex.
Comrade -
I did not say "secret investigators" (that is how conspiracy tards think)
I said cover -
so that the investigations can continue without all these idiot reporters and conspiracy theorists like you can back off and the investigations can continue -
Pelosi will take the heat - and the investigations can continue unimpeded by panicked Trump traitor defenders like you.
And
No one lost confidence in Mueller - but here is the truth; the facts;
There are two reasons why Mueller will not confront Trump and force him to testify under oath:
1) Due to any kind of pressure from any of Trumps henchmen - and this WILL be a travesty of justice. If this is the reason that Mueller does not force the issue - JUSTICE will NOT have been served.
2) Mueller already has more than enough evidence to indict Trump - or to refer him to be indicted from another district like the SDNY - and he has decided to prosecute without Trump's testimony.
You better hope - as all traitors who are on Russia's side -
You better pray that it is #1 - because that is the only way that your hero gets off - for now -
(he will still be prosecuted after he leaves office though - too bad for you russian sympathizers)
If Mueller already has enough evidence to indict Trump as you claim there is no need for him to have Trump testify under oath. You’ve completely lost faith in Mueller and have hitched your wagon to Pelosi. Sad.
Could you please try and get an article from an even more disreputable source?
I dare you.
How about testimony from one of the FBI’s top lawyers James Baker?
Baker served as the FBI’s general counsel when the bureau investigated the Trump campaign, and also Hillary Clinton’s use of an unauthorized private email server. During two days of testimony on Oct. 3 and Oct. 18, he told lawmakers that he believed even toward the end of the Clinton investigation that she should have been charged over her “alarming, appalling” mishandling of classified information.
He argued with others, including then-FBI Director James Comey, about the issue all the way toward the end of the investigation, but was ultimately persuaded that Clinton should be exonerated.
“My original belief … after having conducted the investigation and towards the end of it, then sitting down and reading a binder of her materials, I thought that it was alarming, appalling, whatever words I said, and argued with others about why they thought she shouldn’t be charged,” Baker told lawmakers.
As of October 2018, almost two years after the Clinton probe concluded, Baker still believed that the conduct of the former secretary of state and her associates was “appalling,” with regard to the handling of classified information.
https://m.theepochtimes.com/transcripts-of-former-top-fbi-lawyer-detail-pervasive-abnormalities-in-trump-probe_2771370.html
look at his postings
pretty accurate if you are honest
never understood those comments - ive gone back to read his stuff and cannot find inaccuracies or distortions
:lmao your troll game is top notch
Spurs Homer
03-12-2019, 10:09 PM
If Mueller already has enough evidence to indict Trump as you claim there is no need for him to have Trump testify under oath. You’ve completely lost faith in Mueller and have hitched your wagon to Pelosi. Sad.
That is what I am telling you - Mueller - if he does not force Trump to testify under oath -
that means he already has enough evidence.
If he says he does not have enough evidence - AND - on top of that he does not force trump to testify -
how can that be justice?
That is what I am telling you - Mueller - if he does not force Trump to testify under oath -
that means he already has enough evidence.
If he says he does not have enough evidence - AND - on top of that he does not force trump to testify -
how can that be justice?
Has it ever crossed your pea sized brain that Mueller does not have evidence because nothing criminal happened between Trump and Russia?
Could you please try and get an article from an even more disreputable source?
I dare you.
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Need any more?
Chris
03-12-2019, 10:53 PM
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Need any more?
CHAAAAARGE!
Chris
03-12-2019, 11:01 PM
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1105635843480391680
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1105636832912556033
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1105637721115189248
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1105638644034031616
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1105639275595526146
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1105639969752788992
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1105647260568829953
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1105648525793288192
Spurs Homer
03-12-2019, 11:16 PM
Has it ever crossed your pea sized brain that Mueller does not have evidence because nothing criminal happened between Trump and Russia?
Sure -
then it should be no problem at all to have Trump testify under oath and clear his name.
Trump could have done that a year ago and saved the entire country a whole lot of trouble - couldn't he?
If this was Obama - you bet your ass that you and your cult would have lost their fucking minds if Obama had avoided testifying under oath.
Just what we have witnessed in full public view - is already Obstruction of Justice - so there is just absolutely zero chance that Mueller can just overlook Obstruction of Justice - because we have all seen it with our own eyes.
Spurs Homer
03-12-2019, 11:24 PM
Reading the Lisa Page transcript and of course -
all those lies above are funny.
The "insurance policy" -lololol
her testimony - is not going well for you guys again -
she was just another patriot doing her job -
DarrinS
03-12-2019, 11:30 PM
Meh
Sure -
then it should be no problem at all to have Trump testify under oath and clear his name.
Trump could have done that a year ago and saved the entire country a whole lot of trouble - couldn't he?
If this was Obama - you bet your ass that you and your cult would have lost their fucking minds if Obama had avoided testifying under oath.
Just what we have witnessed in full public view - is already Obstruction of Justice - so there is just absolutely zero chance that Mueller can just overlook Obstruction of Justice - because we have all seen it with our own eyes.
Why would the President be required to testify about something that never happened?
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:lmao can't even quote the whole sentence.
Chris
03-12-2019, 11:50 PM
Anybody seen djohn? :lol
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I was really looking forward to the meltdown from all the Russiagate pushers but I think it’s likely they’ll all just disappear and stop posting all together or pretend they never pushed it for three years.
Anybody seen djohn? :lol
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Yeah...Raul is lurking right now :lol
Chris
03-12-2019, 11:53 PM
Yeah...Raul is lurking right now :lol
:lol
Chris
03-12-2019, 11:53 PM
https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1105691245496750082
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First Glenn Greenwald is quoting Undercover Huber and now NYT is giving Cuck Ross props :lol
A double whammy for uncompensated megashitposter Pavlov. Lee Smith giving props to Undercover Huber for compiling all the times the dossier was used pre-election :rollin
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poor fella
A double whammy for uncompensated megashitposter Pavlov. Lee Smith giving props to Undercover Huber for compiling all the times the dossier was used pre-election :rollin
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poor fella
Make that a triple whammy for uncompensated megashitposter Pavlov :lmao
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Chris
03-13-2019, 12:25 AM
In before:
"lol Undercover Huber"
"lol Stealth Jeff"
*signs out
In before:
"lol Undercover Huber"
"lol Stealth Jeff"
*signs out
The amount of butthurt Pavlov oozes when those two are quoted is hilarious. Too bad the poor fella was too scared to start his own Twitter account to try and make some money off of his shitposting. He could of been a more successful Kyle Griffin and amassed millions of followers based solely on retweets from djohn.
Once this thing wraps up Chris you and I will use this thread as the new Hip Hop heads thread. I’m loaded up on good shit.
JCailfKEf-w
If he sounds familiar it’s Marc 7 from Jurassic 5
Chris
03-13-2019, 12:40 AM
The amount of butthurt Pavlov oozes when those two are quoted is hilarious. Too bad the poor fella was too scared to start his own Twitter account to try and make some money off of his shitposting. He could of been a more successful Kyle Griffin and amassed millions of followers based solely on retweets from djohn.
Also Nunes :lol
I'm guessing he's more of a Facebook guy :lol
Also Nunes :lol
I'm guessing he's more of a Facebook guy :lol
:lol shitting on Nunes while they prop up Schiff
If you want a good laugh just go browse Schiff’s twitter timeline. Dude ain’t doing well.
Spurs Homer
03-13-2019, 01:17 AM
Why would the President be required to testify about something that never happened?
Ok
So he never fired Comey.
He never ordered McGahn to fire Mueller.
He never wrote a false statement regarding the Trump tower mtg - remember the "adoptions" statement?
He never said in public "Russia if you are listening....."
He never said to the Russians in the oval office - "I fired that nut job Comey and now that pressure of the investigation is gone"
On and on and on and on....
Those things (in your cult mind) never happened.
Trump never obstructed Justice and Conspired with Russians in FULL PUBLIC VIEW.
:lmao:lmao
Mueller is required by the criminal code of justice to ascertain from Trump - his side/explanation of all these events and more...
unless
Trumps henchmen prevent him from doing so.
Ok
So he never fired Comey.
He never ordered McGahn to fire Mueller.
He never wrote a false statement regarding the Trump tower mtg - remember the "adoptions" statement?
He never said in public "Russia if you are listening....."
He never said to the Russians in the oval office - "I fired that nut job Comey and now that pressure of the investigation is gone"
On and on and on and on....
Those things (in your cult mind) never happened.
Trump never obstructed Justice and Conspired with Russians in FULL PUBLIC VIEW.
:lmao:lmao
Mueller is required by the criminal code of justice to ascertain from Trump - his side/explanation of all these events and more...
unless
Trumps henchmen prevent him from doing so.
None of what you described is obstruction of justice nor collusion with Russia. But I get it...that’s your Russiagate troll schtick and you’ve mastered the idiotic talking points of the left. I hope you reveal yourself after this whole bullshit investigation is over it’s been a stellar troll job :bobo
Spurs Homer
03-13-2019, 02:16 AM
None of what you described is obstruction of justice nor collusion with Russia. But I get it...that’s your Russiagate troll schtick and you’ve mastered the idiotic talking points of the left. I hope you reveal yourself after this whole bullshit investigation is over it’s been a stellar troll job :bobo
You are 100% wrong.
All those examples are public events - and they are also pieces of evidence for those crimes.
Mueller takes those and corroborates them with emails, texts, phone calls, other witness statements under oath, news reports, etc...
and those pieces become evidence until there is proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
How can you look at these things and then say what you said - are you just purposefully being obtuse?
You have no credibility if all of these pieces that you saw with your own eyes - happening in real time -
you are now denying. You just sound like a cultist in denial of reality.
Trump asks comey to drop an investigation. Comey does not agree and does not drop the investigation.
Trump fires comey and then tells the world why he did it "this rusher thing"
How can you deny that this is not a corrupt act? How is this not an element of obstruction of justice?
I am a fool for even wasting my time with you -
I have given you these examples and you deny what is right in front of your face.
You have zero credibility.
Chris
03-13-2019, 02:25 AM
Being a big fan of Comey, you would know he said the dossier was "salacious and unverified." It has zero credibility according to your homey Comey. You can rest easy now.
You are 100% wrong.
All those examples are public events - and they are also pieces of evidence for those crimes.
Mueller takes those and corroborates them with emails, texts, phone calls, other witness statements under oath, news reports, etc...
and those pieces become evidence until there is proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
How can you look at these things and then say what you said - are you just purposefully being obtuse?
You have no credibility if all of these pieces that you saw with your own eyes - happening in real time -
you are now denying. You just sound like a cultist in denial of reality.
Trump asks comey to drop an investigation. Comey does not agree and does not drop the investigation.
Trump fires comey and then tells the world why he did it "this rusher thing"
How can you deny that this is not a corrupt act? How is this not an element of obstruction of justice?
I am a fool for even wasting my time with you -
I have given you these examples and you deny what is right in front of your face.
You have zero credibility.
Your a fool for publicly sharing your foolish thoughts. None of what you described was obstruction of justice or collusion with Russia. There’s a reason Mueller has not once even hinted at either in any indictment or sentencing memo. I’ve asked you numerous times to provide just one single example of either from Mueller and you can’t because they don’t exist.
You aren’t wasting your time though, I’m thoroughly enjoying your Russiagate troll schtick :bobo
Being a big fan of Comey, you would know he said the dossier was "salacious and unverified." It has zero credibility according to your homey Comey. You can rest easy now.
Is Spurs Homer your troll? :lol
Chris
03-13-2019, 02:59 AM
Is Spurs Homer your troll? :lol
No :lol someone with far too much time on their hands operates that account.
Pavlov
03-13-2019, 03:00 AM
If djohn disappears for good I might bring back TheSanityAnnex.Not that alt.
Don't be disingenuous.
Pavlov
03-13-2019, 03:02 AM
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1105635843480391680
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1105636832912556033
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1105637721115189248
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1105638644034031616
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1105639275595526146
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1105639969752788992
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1105647260568829953
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1105648525793288192:lol wall of Stealth Jeff
Chris
03-13-2019, 09:08 PM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1105963623086727169
Pavlov
03-13-2019, 09:09 PM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1105963623086727169That's why there's an investigation.
Chris
03-13-2019, 09:10 PM
That's why there's an investigation.
What crime were they investigating?
Pavlov
03-13-2019, 09:12 PM
What crime were they investigating?In part the theft and dissemination of emails from members of the Democratic party.
You didn't even know that, Qhris?
That's incredibly ignorant of you.
Chris
03-13-2019, 09:12 PM
In part the theft and dissemination of emails from members of the Democratic party.
You didn't even know that, Qhris?
That's incredibly ignorant of you.
They thought Trump stole the emails? Explain your theory.
Pavlov
03-13-2019, 09:13 PM
They thought Trump stole the emails? Explain your theory.Straw man.
Try again.
pgardn
03-13-2019, 10:18 PM
How about testimony from one of the FBI’s top lawyers James Baker?
Baker served as the FBI’s general counsel when the bureau investigated the Trump campaign, and also Hillary Clinton’s use of an unauthorized private email server. During two days of testimony on Oct. 3 and Oct. 18, he told lawmakers that he believed even toward the end of the Clinton investigation that she should have been charged over her “alarming, appalling” mishandling of classified information.
He argued with others, including then-FBI Director James Comey, about the issue all the way toward the end of the investigation, but was ultimately persuaded that Clinton should be exonerated.
“My original belief … after having conducted the investigation and towards the end of it, then sitting down and reading a binder of her materials, I thought that it was alarming, appalling, whatever words I said, and argued with others about why they thought she shouldn’t be charged,” Baker told lawmakers.
As of October 2018, almost two years after the Clinton probe concluded, Baker still believed that the conduct of the former secretary of state and her associates was “appalling,” with regard to the handling of classified information.
https://m.theepochtimes.com/transcripts-of-former-top-fbi-lawyer-detail-pervasive-abnormalities-in-trump-probe_2771370.html
Good job TSA
You did it!
In recent years, the newspaper's German edition has aligned with the German far right, (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics)[57] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Epoch_Times#cite_note-:0-57)[58] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Epoch_Times#cite_note-:1-58) and the U.S. edition has favored the Trump administration (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidency_of_Donald_Trump).[59] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Epoch_Times#cite_note-:2-59)[60] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Epoch_Times#cite_note-:3-60)
Chris
03-13-2019, 10:52 PM
https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1106030638065426432
Pavlov
03-13-2019, 10:53 PM
https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1106030638065426432How is that "breaking"?
Chris
03-13-2019, 11:00 PM
https://twitter.com/EpochTimes/status/1105997901304680449
Ohr shit.
https://twitter.com/EpochTimes/status/1105997901304680449
Ohr shit.
Holy Ohr shit. She approached Simpson for the job with Fusion GPS. This was a Brennan/CIA set up from the start.
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First Judge Ellis and now Judge Jackson :rollin
Can any of you Russiagate conspiracy dipshits point me to the case where Mueller is getting charged for colluding with Russia to cheat the election?
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:lol Marcy Wheeler is still as dug in as the rest of the conspiracy dipshits here.
A double whammy for uncompensated megashitposter Pavlov. Lee Smith giving props to Undercover Huber for compiling all the times the dossier was used pre-election :rollin
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poor fella
Pavlov went strangely quiet on this one :lol
How is that "breaking"?
More “BREAKING”
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Good job TSA
You did it!
In recent years, the newspaper's German edition has aligned with the German far right, (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics)[57] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Epoch_Times#cite_note-:0-57)[58] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Epoch_Times#cite_note-:1-58) and the U.S. edition has favored the Trump administration (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidency_of_Donald_Trump).[59] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Epoch_Times#cite_note-:2-59)[60] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Epoch_Times#cite_note-:3-60)
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Pavlov
03-14-2019, 09:06 AM
More “BREAKING”
1106042761407619073 you didn't answer the question
Pavlov
03-14-2019, 09:07 AM
Pavlov went strangely quiet on this one :lol
:lol Undercover Huber
Spurs Homer
03-14-2019, 09:29 AM
Funny, I read the Lisa Page testimony/hearing transcript - and Ratcliffe is a piece of shit who disingenuously cherry-picks and spins her words.
AND
Idiots re-post this garbage - INSTEAD of reading the transcript themselves.
This is why this bogus russia/trump defense has survived in the public for two years.
Pavlov
03-14-2019, 09:31 AM
Holy Ohr shit. She approached Simpson for the job with Fusion GPS. This was a Brennan/CIA set up from the start.Is this your conspiracy theory today?
Spurs Homer
03-14-2019, 09:46 AM
Is this your conspiracy theory today?
Ohr's testimony explained it:
His wife's expertise was in Russian cyber crimes. Simpson was doing similar things. They all had met years earlier. When the Republicans hired GPS to find dirt on Trump - Simpson hired Nellie.
When the Republicans realized that Trump was their candidate - they dropped the "research" and Dems took over.
Ohr and Steele had known each other for years which resulted in Steele alerting Ohr of the stuff that he had found on Russia and he was worried because his investigation found that
Russian gov't had Trump "over a barrel."
Ohr then received reports from Steele which Ohr then reported to the FBI and they started a case to receive these reports. The FBI assigned an agent (Pientka) to meet with Ohr every time Ohr reported a contact from Steele and this info would be documented. Every few weeks or months Ohr would receive a piece - and he would hand it over to the FBI just like any American citizen would.
His wife continued to work for GPS doing research but Ohr says he doesn't think any of her stuff ended up in the Dossier.
Those same conspiratards still never seem to ask or care about asking about:
"how did Russia have Trump over a barrel?"
Instead they are desperately seeking any info they can dream up against the FBI because they love Russia so much.
djohn2oo8
03-14-2019, 12:31 PM
:lmao WH throwing Stone under the bus. No pardon for you buddy.
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spurraider21
03-14-2019, 12:49 PM
R:lolger St:lolne
Chris
03-14-2019, 03:15 PM
Holy Ohr shit. She approached Simpson for the job with Fusion GPS. This was a Brennan/CIA set up from the start.
Also the international intelligence operatives Christopher Steele and Michael Gaeta in Italy who was running Mifsud, Steele, AND Ohr in Rome.
spurraider21
03-14-2019, 03:19 PM
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First Judge Ellis and now Judge Jackson :rollin
Can any of you Russiagate conspiracy dipshits point me to the case where Mueller is getting charged for colluding with Russia to cheat the election?
you continue showing amusement that cases WE ALREADY KNEW did not allege russia collusion are not about russia collusion
its bizarre
i mean, for all these cases, should i get start commenting how OMG THERES NO EVIDENCE HERE OF CLINTON/PODESTA SCANDAL
Chris
03-14-2019, 03:22 PM
you continue showing amusement that cases WE ALREADY KNEW did not allege russia collusion are not about russia collusion
its bizarre
i mean, for all these cases, should i get start commenting how OMG THERES NO EVIDENCE HERE OF CLINTON/PODESTA SCANDAL
lol "WE"
lol Hive Mind
spurraider21
03-14-2019, 03:22 PM
lol "WE"
lol Hive Mind
we. including you and TSA.
unless you didnt know these charges never alleged russia collusion. its possible, as you've routinely shown to be a low information poster
Chris
03-14-2019, 03:23 PM
https://twitter.com/GeorgePapa19/status/1106264456240095232
Chris
03-14-2019, 03:24 PM
we. including you and TSA.
unless you didnt know these charges never alleged russia collusion. its possible, as you've routinely shown to be a low information poster
lol "WE"
lol Hive Mind
lol speaking for TSA and me
lol edits
spurraider21
03-14-2019, 03:25 PM
https://twitter.com/GeorgePapa19/status/1106264456240095232
lol convicted felon
lol "WE"
lol Hive Mind
lol speaking for TSA and me
so you just learned for the first time that these charges never alleged russia collusion? :lmao low information poster
the indictment documents have been publicly available for a long time
spurraider21
03-14-2019, 03:26 PM
lol "WE"
lol Hive Mind
lol speaking for TSA and me
lol edits
:lmao literally editing your post to add "lol edits"
Chris
03-14-2019, 03:43 PM
https://twitter.com/SaraCarterDC/status/1106212857727930368
:lol Undercover Huber
Pavlov still strangely quiet on this one. Tell me again how the dossier wasn’t used pre-election, or for once just admit you were completely wrong.
Pavlov
03-14-2019, 05:11 PM
Pavlov still strangely quiet on this one. Tell me again how the dossier wasn’t used pre-election, or for once just admit you were completely wrong.It wasn't beyond the innuendo stage.
you continue showing amusement that cases WE ALREADY KNEW did not allege russia collusion are not about russia collusion
its bizarre
i mean, for all these cases, should i get start commenting how OMG THERES NO EVIDENCE HERE OF CLINTON/PODESTA SCANDAL
Can you point me to the case where Mueller is going to charge an American for colluding with Russia to cheat the election?
Pavlov
03-14-2019, 05:15 PM
Can you point me to the case where Mueller is going to charge an American for colluding with Russia to cheat the election?So you're allowed to kick the can down the road but no one else is allowed.
lol forum cop
Pavlov
03-14-2019, 05:17 PM
Jes' yew wait 'til the next next Horowitz report....Grassley gun' be writin' moar letters!
Also Huber will do....something....maybe....
It wasn't.
poor fella can’t admit he was wrong even when provided receipts. Sad.
So you're allowed to kick the can down the road but no one else is allowed.
lol forum cop
Can you point me to the case where Mueller is going to charge an American for colluding with Russia to cheat the election?
Pavlov
03-14-2019, 05:30 PM
Can you point me to the case where Mueller is going to charge an American for colluding with Russia to cheat the election?No.
Can you point to me where Hillary Clinton is going to be charged with child trafficking?
Pavlov
03-14-2019, 05:38 PM
Thanks for playing.:lmao now you don't want to talk about Hillary and child trafficking?
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LLSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSBBBBBBBBBBBBYYYYYYY
:lmao now you don't want to talk about Hillary and child trafficking?
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LLSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSBBBBBBBBBBBBYYYYYYY
I simply noted and ignored your pathetic deflection. Next.
spurraider21
03-14-2019, 05:39 PM
Can you point me to the case where Mueller is going to charge an American for colluding with Russia to cheat the election?
asked and answered
i'll answer again
no
but now, please answer why you continue to be amused that these cases (which we already knew were not about collusion) are not addressing collusion. why is the equivalent of "water is wet" so astonishing to you?
https://twitter.com/SaraCarterDC/status/1106212857727930368
According to NPR Weissmann is leaving to teach at New York University and work on a variety of public service projects. Apparently, “this includes his longstanding interest in preventing wrongful convictions by shoring up forensic science standards used in courts,” the sources told NPR.
:lmao
asked and answered
i'll answer again
no
but now, please answer why you continue to be amused that these cases (which we already knew were not about collusion) are not addressing collusion. why is the equivalent of "water is wet" so astonishing to you?
I just want to know if anyone can point me to the case where we finally see Mueller charge an American with colluding with Russia during the election. It’s okay if you don’t know, I don’t know either. I thought for sure a 1500+ page thread would have at least one conviction concerning Russian collusion.
Pavlov
03-14-2019, 05:47 PM
I simply noted and ignored your pathetic deflection. Next.:lol you've been trying to deflect from your failure for months.
Any Undercover Huber news?
Grocers?
Coaches?
4chan?
8chan?
32chan?
voat?
ar15?
Q?
Pavlov
03-14-2019, 05:50 PM
I just want to know if anyone can point me to the case where we finally see Mueller charge an American with colluding with Russia during the election. It’s okay if you don’t know, I don’t know either. I thought for sure a 1500+ page thread would have at least one conviction concerning Russian collusion.So we don't know.
Now what?
So we don't know.
Now what?
That was sarcasm my dude. I already know and have known from the start. I’ve never waivered.
:lol you've been trying to deflect from your failure for months.
Any Undercover Huber news?
Grocers?
Coaches?
4chan?
8chan?
32chan?
voat?
ar15?
Q?
Triggered?
Pavlov
03-14-2019, 05:57 PM
That was sarcasm my dude. I already know and have known from the start. I’ve never waivered.So now what?
Pavlov
03-14-2019, 05:58 PM
Triggered?You have nothing to say about all your conspiracy theories from these sources?
koriwhat
03-14-2019, 05:59 PM
You have nothing to say about all your conspiracy theories from these sources?
and you have no way to dispute his theories... game on!
Pavlov
03-14-2019, 06:01 PM
and you have no way to dispute his theories... Uh, sure I do.
koriwhat
03-14-2019, 06:03 PM
Uh, sure I do.
lay it on the line then...
Pavlov
03-14-2019, 06:05 PM
lay it on the line then...I already have. That's why TSA will never talk about them again.
spurraider21
03-14-2019, 06:07 PM
I just want to know if anyone can point me to the case where we finally see Mueller charge an American with colluding with Russia during the election. It’s okay if you don’t know, I don’t know either. I thought for sure a 1500+ page thread would have at least one conviction concerning Russian collusion.
I've said no twice already.
You've gotten the answer you wanted.
Now, question pending. Why do you continue to be amused that these cases (which we already knew were not about collusion) are not addressing collusion?
koriwhat
03-14-2019, 06:16 PM
I've said no twice already.
You've gotten the answer you wanted.
Now, question pending. Why do you continue to be amused that these cases (which we already knew were not about collusion) are not addressing collusion?
probably because this isn't how the justice system is supposed to work but fascists like yourself want that change to be permanent where you look towards a person's past for a crime instead of investigating a crime to pin on a person.
So now what?
Now I sit back and enjoy watching you eat truck loads of shit.
I've said no twice already.
You've gotten the answer you wanted.
Now, question pending. Why do you continue to be amused that these cases (which we already knew were not about collusion) are not addressing collusion?
You literally quoted my answer to your question. Should I answer twice like you are already complaining about doing yourself?
You have nothing to say about all your conspiracy theories from these sources?
Sure. My conspiracy theories concerning Russian collusion are all pointing closer to reality than any conspiracy theory presented by Russiagate believers.
Here’s where you say you never believed Russian collusion existed in the first place even though you devoted three years of your life to it.
spurraider21
03-14-2019, 07:06 PM
You literally quoted my answer to your question. Should I answer twice like you are already complaining about doing yourself?
that didnt answer my question at all.
that didnt answer my question at all.
Straight forward answer. I’m amused certain people here think there will still be a case of Russian collusion coming.
Are you one of them?
spurraider21
03-14-2019, 07:44 PM
Straight forward answer. I’m amused certain people here think there will still be a case of Russian collusion coming.
Are you one of them?
that doesn't answer my question. you're dodging.
why are you amused that these cases that were not meant to address collusion proceed to... not address collusion.
not asking about other posters. but when the judge makes comments about how the case is not about russia (even though you already know it wasn't), why is that a big deal for you?
Pavlov
03-14-2019, 07:55 PM
Sure. My conspiracy theories concerning Russian collusion are all pointing closer to reality than any conspiracy theory presented by Russiagate believers.No, I'm talking about all the other conspiracies you're still eating shit over.
Here’s where you say you never believed Russian collusion existed in the first place even though you devoted three years of your life to it.I actually explicitly told you my conspiracy theory four times.
Here's where you pretend to not have read it.
that doesn't answer my question. you're dodging.
why are you amused that these cases that were not meant to address collusion proceed to... not address collusion.
not asking about other posters. but when the judge makes comments about how the case is not about russia (even though you already know it wasn't), why is that a big deal for you?
Because not a single case brought before any judge has had a case concerning Russian collusion.
Speaking of dodging...I’m amused certain people here think there will still be a case of Russian collusion coming.
Are you one of them?
No, I'm talking about all the other conspiracies you're still eating shit over. thanks for admitting you’re deflecting from anything having to do with this thread.
I actually explicitly told you my conspiracy theory four times.
Here's where you pretend to not have read it.
That’s an exact number for three years of participation in this thread. Can you state your conspiracy theory one more time, for shits and giggles.
Winehole23
03-14-2019, 08:06 PM
Al Capone was taken down for tax evasion.
Was that a witch hunt or was it somehow illegitimate for the Feds to investigate something unrelated to the initial cause of the investigation?
If so, why so?
If not, what's the big deal here? In the course of a CI investigation into one thing, other crimes come to light.
Are prosecutors supposed to ignore crimes they discover?
spurraider21
03-14-2019, 08:12 PM
Because not a single case brought before any judge has had a case concerning Russian collusion.
but you already knew that. so why are comments that just affirm that yet again so amusing to you?
Speaking of dodging...I’m amused certain people here think there will still be a case of Russian collusion coming.
Are you one of them?
nah.
Spurs Homer
03-14-2019, 08:12 PM
Al Capone was taken down for tax evasion.
Was that a witch hunt or was it somehow illegitimate for the Feds to investigate something unrelated to the initial cause of the investigation?
If so, why so?
If not, what's the big deal here? In the course of a CI investigation into one thing, other crimes come to light.
Are prosecutors supposed to ignore crimes they discover?
well- duh!
of course dear leader cannot be properly and legally investigated!
because he is a victim of that deep state!
Al Capone was taken down for tax evasion.
Was that a witch hunt or was it somehow illegitimate for the Feds to investigate something unrelated to the initial cause of the investigation?
If so, why so?
If not, what's the big deal here? In the course of a CI investigation into one thing, other crimes come to light.
Are prosecutors supposed to ignore crimes they discover?
Capone had an actual crime that kickstarted the investigation.
but you already knew that. so why are comments that just affirm that yet again so amusing to you?
nah.
Good talk.
well- duh!
of course dear leader cannot be properly and legally investigated!
because he is a victim of that deep state!
I will truly miss this alt.
well- duh!
of course dear leader cannot be properly and legally investigated!
because he is a victim of that deep state!
No faith in Mueller, again.
Winehole23
03-14-2019, 08:49 PM
Capone had an actual crime that kickstarted the investigation.There doesn't have to be an actual crime or even probable cause for counterintelligence investigations. If you think hard, you might be able to deduce good reasons for that.
The CI investigation of Trump is legit, even if no conspiracy charges are laid. The spooks are duty bound to look into stuff that looks spooky.
The prevalence of contacts with shady Russians plus DJT boasting to Russians that he fired Comey beacuse of the investigation was a legit predicate for investigation even if no crimes were found -- which isn't the case.
People all around Trump lied their asses off about the contacts. One of the was even working for Turkey while advising DJT on NATSEC.
Winehole23
03-14-2019, 08:52 PM
If Trump hadn't hired a bunch of crooks and liars we wouldn't be having this conversation, the investigation would be over.
Spurs Homer
03-14-2019, 08:52 PM
Comrade TSA just making mother Russia proud - think about it - what choice does TSA have?
:lmao:lmao
Winehole23
03-14-2019, 08:58 PM
Trump's loud-mouthed public tirades against the investigation and his arm-twisting of subordinates to do something about it in private have done him no favors -- people have been convicted of obstruction of justice for less.
Winehole23
03-14-2019, 09:11 PM
I don't know how you could honeatly reach the conclusion the Mueller inveatigation is a failure: everyone so far has either cooperated and/or been convicted. An amazing amount of corruption in the direct vicinity of DJT has been rooted out, more almost surely will.
There doesn't have to be an actual crime or even probable cause for counterintelligence investigations. If you think hard, you might be able to deduce good reasons for that.
The CI investigation of Trump is legit, even if no conspiracy charges are laid. The spooks are duty bound to look into stuff that looks spooky.
The prevalence of contacts with shady Russians plus DJT boasting to Russians that he fired Comey beacuse of the investigation was a legit predicate for investigation even if no crimes were found -- which isn't the case.
People all around Trump lied their asses off about the contacts. One of the was even working for Turkey while advising DJT on NATSEC.
A special counsel doesn’t need a crime?
Trump's loud-mouthed public tirades against the investigation and his arm-twisting of subordinates to do something about it in private have done him no favors -- people have been convicted of obstruction of justice for less.
Yet the investigation continued, unimpeded.
I don't know how you could honeatly reach the conclusion the Mueller inveatigation is a failure: everyone so far has either cooperated and/or been convicted. An amazing amount of corruption in the direct vicinity of DJT has been rooted out, more almost surely will.
Why was the investigation opened?
How many have been indicted based on that?
Winehole23
03-14-2019, 09:15 PM
The Trump Administration stands out for self dealing and corrupt appointees. You might have to go back as far as Harding or Grant for anything comparable.
Winehole23
03-14-2019, 09:16 PM
Why was the investigation opened?
How many have been indicted based on that?No one yet. It's possible no one will be
Is that a problem? If so, why?
spurraider21
03-14-2019, 09:17 PM
Good talk.
lol still dodging the question. because you know the answer makes you look stupid.
I don't know how you could honeatly reach the conclusion the Mueller inveatigation is a failure: everyone so far has either cooperated and/or been convicted. An amazing amount of corruption in the direct vicinity of DJT has been rooted out, more almost surely will.
None of it had anything to do with the election. Manafort’s shady deals were known long ago. Why wasn’t he prosecuted back then? It was well known. Did the ties to Podesta prevent that?
No one yet. It's possible no one will be
Is that a problem? If so, why?
You’d need a crime
lol still dodging the question. because you know the answer makes you look stupid.
You have your answer. Sorry you don’t like it.
Winehole23
03-14-2019, 09:20 PM
A special counsel doesn’t need a crime?Nope. No prosecutor starts out with a crime. At most he starts out with probable cause to investigate and has to build a case. Red handed crimes are rare.
In this case Mueller was given the CI brief, an investigation that preceded him, with all the powers of the Five Eyes to check it out.
He's made mincemeat of the President's campaign cronies and NATSEC advisor.
Maybe there are good reasons for DJT to be panic tweeting on the reg.
An innocent man would have nothing to worry about, right?
spurraider21
03-14-2019, 09:22 PM
You have your answer. Sorry you don’t like it.
no, you didnt answer my question. somebody reiterating something we already knew shouldn't get anybody giddy. but it does for you. lol
imagine hillary gets indicted and convicted for uranium one, but then people here celebrate because "lol you nutjobs, there was NO evidence of pizzagate in this case"
Nope. No prosecutor starts out with a crime. At most he starts out with probable cause to investigate and has to build a case. Red handed crimes are rare.
In this casr Mueller was given the CI brief, an investigation that preceded him, with all the powers of the Five Eyes to check it out.
No crime needed? Seriously? :rollin
no, you didnt answer my question. somebody reiterating something we already knew shouldn't get anybody giddy. but it does for you. lol
imagine hillary gets indicted and convicted for uranium one, but then people here celebrate because "lol you nutjobs, there was NO evidence of pizzagate in this case"
Nice edit quick shooter :lol
no, you didnt answer my question. somebody reiterating something we already knew shouldn't get anybody giddy. but it does for you. lol
imagine hillary gets indicted and convicted for uranium one, but then people here celebrate because "lol you nutjobs, there was NO evidence of pizzagate in this case"
The one time you hop off the fence it totally bit you in the ass. How’s it feel?
spurraider21
03-14-2019, 09:26 PM
The one time you hop off the fence it totally bit you in the ass. How’s it feel?
when was that? the main thing we've gone back and forth have been the legal issues, particularly with the FISA stuff and muh judge sullivan plea reversal
spurraider21
03-14-2019, 09:27 PM
Nice edit quick shooter :lol
dont even remember what i edited. probably just added some words.
keep deflecting from the question at hand, though :lol. the honest answer makes you look stupid
Nope. No prosecutor starts out with a crime. At most he starts out with probable cause to investigate and has to build a case. Red handed crimes are rare.
In this case Mueller was given the CI brief, an investigation that preceded him, with all the powers of the Five Eyes to check it out.
He's made mincemeat of the President's campaign cronies and NATSEC advisor.
Maybe there are good reasons for DJT to be panic tweeting on the reg.
An innocent man would have nothing to worry about, right?
Or an innocent man knew it was bullshit from the start. What crime was committed to open an investigation?
when was that? the main thing we've gone back and forth have been the legal issues, particularly with the FISA stuff and muh judge sullivan plea reversal
Oh yes all your contributions have been about legal issues :lol
dont even remember what i edited. probably just added some words.
keep deflecting from the question at hand, though :lol. the honest answer makes you look stupid
:lol I don’t remember after it’s quoted
It’s truly sad to see what’s happening to the believers.
Winehole23
03-14-2019, 09:31 PM
No crime needed? Seriously? :rollinYou seem to be unfamiliar with the methods of counterintelligence.Somewhere, in this vast thread, we had a detailed sidebar on that.
Different evidentiary thresholds apply. No probable cause is needed for CI investigations.
I doubt there was any lack of probable cause, given the prevalence of the Five Eyes, but even if there weren't, that would be no impediment.
spurraider21
03-14-2019, 09:39 PM
:lol I don’t remember after it’s quoted
you're making no sense. the post you quoted is identical to the post that appears on this page.
keep deflecting from the question at hand, though :lol. the honest answer makes you look stupid
spurraider21
03-14-2019, 09:41 PM
Oh yes all your contributions have been about legal issues :lol
i didn't say all. i said "the main thing" had been legal issues.
you can feel free to try to dig up a post where i claimed trump would be impeached/indicted or that his kids would be going to prison. i think it's going to be pretty difficult imo.
but just jogging my memory, the only time i felt there was any actual jeopardy was after he fired comey because imo that smelt of obstruction. and then the reports later that he was considering firing mueller. i thought those were the behaviors of either a guilty or a scared man.
You seem to be unfamiliar with the methods of counterintelligence.Somewhere, in this vast thread, we has a detailed sidebar on that.
Different evidentiary thresholds apply. No probable cause is needed for CI investigations.
I doubt there was any lack of probable cause, given the prevalence of the Five Eyes, but even if there weren't, that would be no impediment.
There was/is a criminal investigation. Were you unfamiliar with that?
you're making no sense. the post you quoted is identical to the post that appears on this page.
keep deflecting from the question at hand, though :lol. the honest answer makes you look stupid
It was not identical when I posted. I’ve seen it happen before so no harm no foul. Your question was answered regardless.
i didn't say all. i said "the main thing" had been legal issues.
you can feel free to try to dig up a post where i claimed trump would be impeached/indicted or that his kids would be going to prison. i think it's going to be pretty difficult imo.
but just jogging my memory, the only time i felt there was any actual jeopardy was after he fired comey because imo that smelt of obstruction. and then the reports later that he was considering firing mueller. i thought those were the behaviors of either a guilty or a scared man.
Did you forget what Trump said about the investigation lengthening after firing Comey and being okay with that?
Did you forget about all of the demo trays calling out for the firing of Comey?
I never claimed you said Trump would be impeached/indicted, but to pretend you weren’t wishing for it is disingenuous.
You seem to be unfamiliar with the methods of counterintelligence.Somewhere, in this vast thread, we has a detailed sidebar on that.
Different evidentiary thresholds apply. No probable cause is needed for CI investigations.
I doubt there was any lack of probable cause, given the prevalence of the Five Eyes, but even if there weren't, that would be no impediment.
Mueller was not a CI investigation. What the fuck are you rambling about?
Spurs Homer
03-15-2019, 12:09 AM
No crime needed? Seriously? :rollin
How silly of anyone to think that!
Remember Benghazi and all those convicted criminals in that fiasco? Remember all the indictments and all those crimes -
this is why they absolutely had the right to spend millions investigating HRC-
oh shit- wait!
:lmao:lmao:lmao
Spurs Homer
03-15-2019, 12:13 AM
Mueller was not a CI investigation. What the fuck are you rambling about?
It was both a CI and an obstruction of justice - and - a conspiracy investigation.
This is what McCabe set in place and he made sure Rosenstein had no choice but to appoint a Special Counsel.
McCabe - sealed Trumps fate before getting rail-roaded out of the FBI!
:lmao:lmao
RandomGuy
03-15-2019, 12:18 AM
You seem to be unfamiliar with the methods of counterintelligence.Somewhere, in this vast thread, we has a detailed sidebar on that.
Different evidentiary thresholds apply. No probable cause is needed for CI investigations.
I doubt there was any lack of probable cause, given the prevalence of the Five Eyes, but even if there weren't, that would be no impediment.
This. I have little doubt that Mueller has been fed stuff here and there by intel people more htan happy to fuck over the president. Make enemies of them at your peril. I can only think of the speech he gave criticizing the CIA in front of the wall of stars denoting people killed int he line of duty.
This. I have little doubt that Mueller has been fed stuff here and there by intel people more htan happy to fuck over the president. Make enemies of them at your peril. I can only think of the speech he gave criticizing the CIA in front of the wall of stars denoting people killed int he line of duty.
You’ve now stopped to Spurs Homer’s level of stupidity. I was shocked wine went there as well. Mueller was not running a counterintelligence investigation.
This. I have little doubt that Mueller has been fed stuff here and there by intel people more htan happy to fuck over the president. Make enemies of them at your peril. I can only think of the speech he gave criticizing the CIA in front of the wall of stars denoting people killed int he line of duty.
The irony of you bringing up the CIA is going to be all time.
Winehole23
03-15-2019, 01:21 AM
There was/is a criminal investigation. Were you unfamiliar with that?I understand it Mueller is working on two tracks. The criminal track as I understand it relates to at least two angles: Russian activities related to the 2016 election, and (possible) obstruction of justice by DJT. All of it subsequent to the CI investigation.
If you think there's no good reason for Mueller to consider obstruction of justice or prosecute Russians for participating in American political campaigns, you're either a very dense person or a tragic case of motivated reasoning.
Pavlov
03-15-2019, 01:21 AM
thanks for admitting you’re deflecting from anything having to do with this thread.On the contrary, you used your conspiracy theories to deflect from the thread topic for years.
That’s an exact number for three years of participation in this thread. Can you state your conspiracy theory one more time, for shits and giggles.So you do claim to never have heard it.
lol TSA forever
Winehole23
03-15-2019, 01:24 AM
Mueller was not a CI investigation. What the fuck are you rambling about?He was handed the CI investigation from the FBI. It continues to this day under his supervision.
Possibly.
in the days following the firing of James Comey, the FBI opened an investigation of President Trump. It wasn’t simply the obstruction investigation that many of us have assumed. It was also a counterintelligence investigation predicated on the notion that the president’s own actions might constitute a national security threathttps://www.lawfareblog.com/what-if-obstruction-was-collusion-new-york-timess-latest-bombshell
Winehole23
03-15-2019, 01:26 AM
This is what happens when you avoid stuff that doesn't back up your priors.
You miss important news.
Pavlov
03-15-2019, 01:28 AM
It’s truly sad to see what’s happening to the believers.It's happened to you four or five times over and you've never lived it down.
Winehole23
03-15-2019, 01:28 AM
Mueller has (possibly) had all the tools of counterintelligence at his disposal all along. It's probably how he caught everyone (who's gone to jail or soon will) lying.
Pavlov
03-15-2019, 01:29 AM
The irony of you bringing up the CIA is going to be all time.Your latest conspiracy theory....
Winehole23
03-15-2019, 01:30 AM
It's probably also why DJT is freaking out on the reg. Even if Mueller has nothing on DJT, Ivanka and Kushner are probably cooked.
I understand it Mueller is working on two tracks. The criminal track as I understand it relates to at least two angles: Russian activities related to the 2016 election, and (possible) obstruction of justice by DJT. All of it subsequent to the CI investigation.
If you think there's no good reason for Mueller to consider obstruction of justice or prosecute Russians for participating in American political campaigns, you're either a very dense person or a tragic case of motivated reasoning.
Russian activities can and should be investigated by the FBI. Can you tell me what crime occurred that had Mueller investigating Trump/campaign.
It's happened to you four or five times over and you've never lived it down.
:lol passive admission
It's probably also why DJT is freaking out on the reg. Even if Mueller has nothing on DJT, Ivanka and Kushner are probably cooked.
:lmao
Want the same bet dipshit djohn took?
Winehole23
03-15-2019, 02:24 AM
:lmao
Want the same bet dipshit djohn took?Nah, I don't do prognostication. It would be a mistake to presume legal exposure is zero, same as presuming guilt.
Pavlov
03-15-2019, 02:26 AM
:lol passive admission:lol Yes, you passively admitted to eating your conspiracy shit four or five times over.
You don't even know what my theory was.:rollin
Winehole23
03-15-2019, 02:27 AM
Russian activities can and should be investigated by the FBI. Can you tell me what crime occurred that had Mueller investigating Trump/campaign.A crime doesn't have to have occurred, meetings with shady Russians then bragging to Russians that Comey was fired because of the investigation into Russians might be enough all by itself. Firing Comey could look a lot like obstruction, hell, circumstantially it looks exactly like it.
You should read the Lawfare article, it's an intriguing gloss.
RandomGuy
03-15-2019, 07:08 AM
The irony of you bringing up the CIA is going to be all time.
I said from the beginning:
What they were going to find was going to be data sharing, and that is what they have found. I said there would be some messaging coordination, and that was what they found.
All of this stuff was hinted at months ago, and Mueller is fleshing it out.
Data sharing and coordinating marketing/messaging is the definition of "collusion".
secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others.
There is a reason that Russian messaging efforts targeted certain states.
RandomGuy
03-15-2019, 07:39 AM
Strock and Paige are not what the Trump party would have you believe.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/gop-s-transcript-release-gambit-backfires-upon-actual-reading-1458542147704
Republicans thought it would be cute to release the full transcripts.
It made the Republicans... look like idiots, and Strock and Paige look pretty good all in all.
Spurs Homer
03-15-2019, 09:27 AM
Comrade TSA - is a lot like Trump -
he is shown the facts (Mueller also opened a CI investigation)
and he attacks others instead of admitting he was stupidly misinformed/wrong.
Comrade Pizzagate is beginning to emulate dear leader Trumpski!
djohn2oo8
03-15-2019, 09:45 AM
1106565449289027585
:lmao them boys said SEVERAL!
Spurs Homer
03-15-2019, 09:46 AM
Gates is the "tour guide" of the Trump criminal organization!
:lmao:lmao
Winehole23
03-15-2019, 09:53 AM
Word on the street is the ides of March.Pepe the Frog with a gun says hello from Christchurch, NZ.
Gates is the "tour guide" of the Trump criminal organization!
:lmao:lmao
3 years of wish casting and what do you have? One Paul Manafort.
Spurs Homer
03-15-2019, 10:01 AM
3 years of wish casting and what do you have? One Paul Manafort.
Actually - 3 years of investigations and here are the results -
SO FAR
(this article probably is missing the latest ones :lmao:lmao)
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/20/17031772/mueller-indictments-grand-jury
Actually - 3 years of investigations and here are the results -
SO FAR
(this article probably is missing the latest ones :lmao:lmao)
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/20/17031772/mueller-indictments-grand-jury
:lol "Vox"
Winehole23
03-15-2019, 10:17 AM
:lol "Vox"you don't count Gates, Flynn and Cohen?
a few others have pled out or are still under indictment.
you have to go back to Bill Clinton to find so many crooks close to the president.
Spurs Homer
03-15-2019, 10:23 AM
you don't count Gates, Flynn and Cohen?
a few others have pled out or are still under indictment.
you have to go back to Bill Clinton to find so many crooks close to the president.
how dare you inject facts into a propaganda campaign!
Winehole23
03-15-2019, 12:39 PM
how dare you inject facts into a propaganda campaign!DMC can't resist cheap, sloppy takes. He knows better, he just doesn't care. Lately his diffidence abiut facts shades off into out right lying..
Absent the brazenness, cronyism and cynical machinations of Clinton and GWB, plus a black man in the WH who saved Wall Street while shitting on Main St. during the epochal bust of 2008-9 there would be no Trump.
I said from the beginning:
What they were going to find was going to be data sharing, and that is what they have found. I said there would be some messaging coordination, and that was what they found.
All of this stuff was hinted at months ago, and Mueller is fleshing it out.
Data sharing and coordinating marketing/messaging is the definition of "collusion".
There is a reason that Russian messaging efforts targeted certain states.
Manafort was not indicted or charged with data sharing, neither was Kilminik.
A crime doesn't have to have occurred, meetings with shady Russians then bragging to Russians that Comey was fired because of the investigation into Russians might be enough all by itself. Firing Comey could look a lot like obstruction, hell, circumstantially it looks exactly like it.
You should read the Lawfare article, it's an intriguing gloss.
Special Counsel’s don’t run CI investigations.
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“My reporting suggests a much bigger scandal — the intentional misleading of the nation’s federal intelligence court — soon may eclipse the Russia narrative that has dominated the media the past two years.”
Winehole23
03-15-2019, 02:40 PM
Special Counsel’s don’t run CI investigations.can't think of one more highly qualified to run one than Bob Mueller.
you don't count Gates, Flynn and Cohen?
a few others have pled out or are still under indictment.
you have to go back to Bill Clinton to find so many crooks close to the president.
:lol no
Flynn hasn't spent a day in jail.
Cohen will be out in a very short time.
No idea who Gates is. Never heard of Cohen or Manafort before this investigation. Maybe Trump's gardener will be indicted. Yay. Big W for you!
https://media.giphy.com/media/h8zDn6oE4TLfq/giphy.gif
:lmao
can't think of one more highly qualified to run one than Bob Mueller.
Except Special Counsel’s do not run CI investigations.
Pavlov
03-15-2019, 02:57 PM
Special Counsel’s don’t run CI investigations.
The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI Director James B. Corney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on March 20, 2017
https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/967231/download
I have been authorized by the Department of Justice to confirm that the FBI, as part of our counterintelligence mission, is investigating the Russian government’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election and that includes investigating the nature of any links between individuals associated with the Trump campaign and the Russian government, and whether there was any coordination between the campaign and Russia’s efforts.
http://time.com/4706646/fbi-russia-james-comey-testimony/
poor fella doesn't even know the very basic mission of the SCO
https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/967231/download
http://time.com/4706646/fbi-russia-james-comey-testimony/
poor fella doesn't even know the very basic mission of the SCO
If Special Counsel’s don’t run CI investigations think about what you’re saying.
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:lol holy shit Steele’s sources
Pavlov
03-15-2019, 03:29 PM
If Special Counsel’s don’t run CI investigations think about what you’re saying.I just showed you the proof the SCO investigation is a counterintelligence operation in plain text.
What is your interpretation of those words, TSA?
Be specific.
Chris
03-15-2019, 03:36 PM
Pepe the Frog with a gun says hello from Christchurch, NZ.
Don't @ me with your trollin'.
Chris
03-15-2019, 04:17 PM
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1106664174741016576
Spurs Homer
03-15-2019, 04:21 PM
I just showed you the proof the SCO investigation is a counterintelligence operation in plain text.
What is your interpretation of those words, TSA?
Be specific.
ive been pointing it out
comrade tsa is given direct proof
and he just refuses to believe his eyes
the brainwashing runs deeep!
I just showed you the proof the SCO investigation is a counterintelligence operation in plain text.
What is your interpretation of those words, TSA?
Be specific.Yiu showed me an improperly assigned SCO.
“To be clear, the special counsel regulations require the existence of a factual basis for a criminal investigation — a crime — before a prosecutor is assigned. Moreover, a special counsel, who by regulation is recruited from outside the government, is not supposed to be assigned absent a Department of Justice (DOJ) conflict of interest so profound that the department is ethically barred from investigating the crime in question.
Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein could satisfy neither of these conditions. To this day, he has never specified a crime the president is suspected of committing. And there is no conflict; Mueller not only recruited prosecutors from the Justice Department, he has transitioned the two Russia indictments he’s brought to Justice Department components.
Both of these actions would be improper if there were an actual conflict. But, of course, there isn’t one because, again, Rosenstein has not specified a crime. It is the crime allegedly committed by a president that creates a conflict for the president’s Justice Department and calls for an outside prosecutor.
Nevertheless, Rosenstein also knew that the regulations expressly create no enforceable rights against the Justice Department — i.e., no one, not even a federal court, can compel DOJ to follow the rules. So, despite the mandate that there be a basis for a criminal investigation, the deputy attorney general assigned Mueller to conduct a counterintelligence investigation, which the regulations do not authorize. Counterintelligence is not prosecutor work; it is about gathering information on the potentially threatening activities of foreign powers, not prosecuting criminal suspects.”
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/408250-rosenstein-guided-by-politics-not-a-pursuit-of-justice
Pavlov
03-15-2019, 04:28 PM
Yiu showed me an improperly assigned SCO.
“To be clear, the special counsel regulations require the existence of a factual basis for a criminal investigation — a crime — before a prosecutor is assigned. Moreover, a special counsel, who by regulation is recruited from outside the government, is not supposed to be assigned absent a Department of Justice (DOJ) conflict of interest so profound that the department is ethically barred from investigating the crime in question.
Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein could satisfy neither of these conditions. To this day, he has never specified a crime the president is suspected of committing. And there is no conflict; Mueller not only recruited prosecutors from the Justice Department, he has transitioned the two Russia indictments he’s brought to Justice Department components.
Both of these actions would be improper if there were an actual conflict. But, of course, there isn’t one because, again, Rosenstein has not specified a crime. It is the crime allegedly committed by a president that creates a conflict for the president’s Justice Department and calls for an outside prosecutor.
Nevertheless, Rosenstein also knew that the regulations expressly create no enforceable rights against the Justice Department — i.e., no one, not even a federal court, can compel DOJ to follow the rules. So, despite the mandate that there be a basis for a criminal investigation, the deputy attorney general assigned Mueller to conduct a counterintelligence investigation, which the regulations do not authorize. Counterintelligence is not prosecutor work; it is about gathering information on the potentially threatening activities of foreign powers, not prosecuting criminal suspects.”
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/408250-rosenstein-guided-by-politics-not-a-pursuit-of-justice
That is not your interpretation of those words.
What is your interpretation of those words?
Be specific.
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:lmao them boys said SEVERAL!
Hello Tony Podesta and Greg Craig.
That is not your interpretation of those words.
What is your interpretation of those words?
Be specific.
An SCO was appointed improperly.
Pavlov
03-15-2019, 04:31 PM
An SCO was appointed improperly.That is not your interpretation of those words.
What is your interpretation of those words?
Be specific.
Chris
03-15-2019, 04:32 PM
https://twitter.com/EpochTimes/status/1106656677040922624
That is not your interpretation of those words.
What is your interpretation of those words?
Be specific.
I’m sorry you don’t like the answer.
Pavlov
03-15-2019, 04:34 PM
I’m sorry you don’t like the answer.It wasn't an answer at all.:tu
I'm sorry you didn't like the question.
It's a counterintelligence investigation and there's nothing you can do about it.
It wasn't an answer at all.:tu
I'm sorry you didn't like the question.
It's a counterintelligence investigation and there's nothing you can do about it.You can call it whatever you want but it was never a proper investigation to begin with.
Pavlov
03-15-2019, 04:39 PM
You can call it whatever you want but it was never a proper investigation to begin with.It's a counterintelligence investigation.
I don't know why you're so against things being investigated all the sudden.
Spurs Homer
03-15-2019, 04:42 PM
It wasn't an answer at all.:tu
I'm sorry you didn't like the question.
It's a counterintelligence investigation and there's nothing you can do about it.
he is inventing alternate facts to make them fit his wish that his cult leader can be determined to be
above the law
fbi went by the book
trump got rid of mccabe
but mccabe sealed trumps fate before leaving
not a damn thing can be done about it
by anyone
Pavlov
03-15-2019, 04:43 PM
It's so odd that McCarthy can't even think of a single crime that was committed that everyone in the country knew about save him and TSA.
But that's just how they roll.
Chris
03-15-2019, 04:56 PM
https://twitter.com/EpochTimes/status/1106671413174456322
"Songbird"
koriwhat
03-15-2019, 04:59 PM
https://twitter.com/EpochTimes/status/1106671413174456322
"Songbird"
fuck mccain and good riddance you fraud!
RandomGuy
03-15-2019, 06:18 PM
So we have about five different conspiracies here.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2019/02/21/what-the-mueller-report-will-say
Conspiring with Russia: Donald Trump, his campaign, his organization and his associates knew of the intent of the Russian Federation to carry out the Russian Intervention as early as November 2015. Upon learning of that intent, instead of alerting the FBI to the likelihood of a foreign government trying to commit a crime, Donald Trump, his campaign, his organization and his associates illegally conspired throughout the 2016 presidential election to encourage and enable the Russia Intervention. The result was to defraud the American people of a free and fair election.
RandomGuy
03-15-2019, 06:18 PM
The Moscow Trump Tower Project: Donald Trump, his campaign, his organization and his associates illegally conspired to expand its involvement with Russia beyond the Russian Intervention itself, through efforts from November 2015 at least until June 2016, to negotiate and build the Moscow Trump Tower Project. The Project, if realized, would bring “hundreds of millions of dollars from Russian sources in licensing fees and other revenues” to Donald Trump, his organization and some of his associates.
RandomGuy
03-15-2019, 06:18 PM
Currying Favor with Russia: The Moscow Project “was a lucrative business opportunity,” the Special Counsel notes, “that sought, and likely required, the assistance of the Russian government.” Accordingly, Donald Trump, his campaign, his organization and his associates illegally conspired to curry favor with the Russian Federation in order to facilitate the Moscow Trump Tower Project and to promote their own financial interests, thus depriving the American people both of a free and fair election and of an independent government solely devoted to their interests.
RandomGuy
03-15-2019, 06:19 PM
Hiding the conspiracies: Donald Trump, his campaign, his organization and his associates illegally conspired to hide (1), (2) and (3) from the American people and to lie about them to Congress. According to the court filing, this was done “in order to (1) minimize links between the Moscow Project and [Donald Trump] and (2) give the false impression that the Moscow Project had ended before the Iowa caucus and the first presidential primaries, in hopes of limiting the ongoing Russia investigations being conducted by Congress and the [Special Counsel’s Office].”
RandomGuy
03-15-2019, 06:19 PM
Enabling hard kompromat: Through Trump’s lies to the American people, of which the Russian Federation was aware, Trump made the U.S. Presidency a potential victim of blackmail (aka kompromat) at the hands of the Russian Federation and in so doing illegally compromised the legitimate interests of the American people.
RandomGuy
03-15-2019, 06:19 PM
https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/960x0/https%3A%2F%2Fblogs-images.forbes.com%2Fstevedenning%2Ffiles%2F2018%2F 12%2Ftrump-Russia-timeline.jpg
RandomGuy
03-15-2019, 06:20 PM
After all of that we still have obstruction of justice.
Obstruction Of Justice
The New York Times recently summarized the hundreds of actions and statements by President Trump that are apparent attempts to obstruct justice, amounting to a two-year campaign of intimidation, pressure and humiliation. The sheer volume of the evidence is overwhelming. According to the New York Times:
Julie O’Sullivan, a criminal law professor at Georgetown University, said she believed there was ample public evidence that Mr. Trump had the “corrupt intent” to try to derail the Mueller investigation, the legal standard for an obstruction of justice case.
But this is far from a routine criminal investigation, she said, and Mr. Mueller will have to make judgments about the effect on the country of making a criminal case against the president.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2019/02/21/what-the-mueller-report-will-say
RandomGuy
03-15-2019, 06:22 PM
Trump’s Tactical Error
According to Katyal, Trump, his lawyers and spokespersons have conducted two-year assault on the Mueller probe as a “witch hunt.” But this approach may have backfired in the same way the Trump’s firing of James Comey, the FBI director, backfired. Trump’s legal jeopardy is greater from other prosecutors who are not as limited in scope as the Mueller probe.
For 19 months, Mr. Trump and his team have had one target to shoot at, and that target has had limited jurisdiction. But now the investigation resembles the architecture of the internet, with many different nodes, and some of those nodes possess potentially unlimited jurisdiction. Their powers and scope go well beyond Mr. Mueller’s circumscribed mandate; they go to Mr. Trump’s judgment and whether he lied to the American people. They also include law enforcement investigations having nothing to do with Russia.
President Trump’s attacks on Mueller, his dangling of pardons to witnesses in the investigation, and the lying by multiple Trump associates have aggravated the evidence against Trump and his campaign. By posing the issue as “Trump vs. Mueller,” Trump may well have induced Mueller to spawn further investigations to be carried out by investigators "who have not been subject to the same sorts of public attack” and "who are less limited in scope."
That will be his ultimate undoing. What is going on is just more complex than President Fuckbonkers can even comprehend.
RandomGuy
03-15-2019, 06:24 PM
The forbes article lays it out pretty plainly.
Mueller found more than enough for other, less limited, prosecutors, as well as the House, to go forward. I think Trump will end up in jail. He pretty much openly obstructed justice for almost two years. Kind of hard to dodge that shit.
His twitter account will be, amusingly, his undoing
Winehole23
03-15-2019, 06:26 PM
Don't @ me with your trollin'.Open forum.
Complain to the mods if you dislike direct replies. :cry
Winehole23
03-15-2019, 06:32 PM
:lol no
Flynn hasn't spent a day in jail.
Cohen will be out in a very short time.
No idea who Gates is. Never heard of Cohen or Manafort before this investigation. Maybe Trump's gardener will be indicted. Yay. Big W for you!You never heard of Trump’s campaign manager or his campaign finance chair. Good on your ignorance.
Cohen and Flynn pleaded guilty to felonies; nbd according to you.
The win isn’t mine, L goes to DJT, who hired them.
Winehole23
03-15-2019, 06:37 PM
https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/967231/download
http://time.com/4706646/fbi-russia-james-comey-testimony/
poor fella doesn't even know the very basic mission of the SCOIgnorance of the facts makes it all the easier to muddy the waters, which face it, is TSA’s part time job — full time in this thread.
Chris
03-15-2019, 06:43 PM
Ignorance of the facts makes it all the easier to muddy the waters, which face it, is TSA’s part time job — full time in this thread.
An interesting case of projection here. Winehole23 admits he his willfully ignorant of the facts and prefers to "muddy up the waters."
Winehole23
03-15-2019, 06:44 PM
What facts?
The Mueller investigation is, among other things, a CI investigation.
Winehole23
03-15-2019, 06:48 PM
How else would Mueller have been able to clock team Trump’s lies in real time and get them to plead out to the lies without any trials, unless he already had them dead to rights on the more serious charges not laid?
Chris
03-15-2019, 08:01 PM
https://twitter.com/EpochTimes/status/1106712937379573760
Herr Graham
Spurs Homer
03-15-2019, 08:04 PM
fuck mccain and good riddance you fraud!
So if you were a public servant - and someone handed you a document that had an incoming president compromised by an enemy gov't -
you would NOT turn it in?
You would take Russia's side?
McCain did his duty.
Too bad you forgot whose side you were on - all because of a con man white supremacist who washed your brain like a piece of laundry.
Pavlov
03-15-2019, 08:04 PM
https://twitter.com/EpochTimes/status/1106712937379573760
Herr GrahamWhy is he shitting on Horowitz?
spurraider21
03-15-2019, 08:05 PM
Sessions threw up the white flag on a 2nd special counsel.
Who is John Huber?
He is explicitly not a Special Counsel.
Explicitly :lol
You always answer for dodgerjohn and Reck likes to answer for you. Hivemind :lol
so back then, WE DONT NEED SPECIAL COUNSEL HUBER IS DOING IT
now.. :cry herr graham, we need special counsel :cry
Spurs Homer
03-15-2019, 08:08 PM
The forbes article lays it out pretty plainly.
Mueller found more than enough for other, less limited, prosecutors, as well as the House, to go forward. I think Trump will end up in jail. He pretty much openly obstructed justice for almost two years. Kind of hard to dodge that shit.
His twitter account will be, amusingly, his undoing
"but- but - her emails!"
Chris
03-15-2019, 08:19 PM
Why is he shitting on Horowitz?
so back then, WE DONT NEED SPECIAL COUNSEL HUBER IS DOING IT
now.. :cry herr graham, we need special counsel :cry
I don't know why you're so against things being investigated all the sudden.
lol
koriwhat
03-15-2019, 08:22 PM
So if you were a public servant - and someone handed you a document that had an incoming president compromised by an enemy gov't -
you would NOT turn it in?
You would take Russia's side?
McCain did his duty.
Too bad you forgot whose side you were on - all because of a con man white supremacist who washed your brain like a piece of laundry.
you, personally, have no clue what you speak of on ST ever.
RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA... keep crying wolf why don't ya.
Spurs Homer
03-15-2019, 08:35 PM
you, personally, have no clue what you speak of on ST ever.
RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA... keep crying wolf why don't ya.
So would you report it to the FBI?
Nope.
You would go to prison for your white supremacist con man.
Chris
03-15-2019, 08:37 PM
https://twitter.com/GeorgePapa19/status/1106730216733327360
koriwhat
03-15-2019, 08:47 PM
So would you report it to the FBI?
Nope.
You would go to prison for your white supremacist con man.
lmao you're truly lost or you're truly the retard that i think you are.
You never heard of Trump’s campaign manager or his campaign finance chair. Good on your ignorance.
Cohen and Flynn pleaded guilty to felonies; nbd according to you.
The win isn’t mine, L goes to DJT, who hired them.
GWB pardoned Iran Contra folks who were indicted and sentenced. This is part and parcel of politics at the highest level.
https://twitter.com/EpochTimes/status/1106712937379573760
Herr Graham
Ober Graham fuhrer
Chris
03-15-2019, 11:55 PM
Ober Graham fuhrer
Uber Alles!
Winehole23
03-16-2019, 12:03 AM
GWB pardoned Iran Contra folks who were indicted and sentenced. This is part and parcel of politics at the highest level.GHWB
It needn't be part and parcel of politics at the highest level. At least 41's associates did for some cause putatively bigger than themselves. These jackasses did it for pure pelf and loyalty to the cacique.
To wave off the puny, self-serving corruption of Trump and his cronies as politics as usual is pathetic indifference, but suit yourself.
ElNono
03-16-2019, 12:49 AM
https://twitter.com/EpochTimes/status/1106671413174456322
"Songbird"
https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2017-07/28/10/asset/buzzfeed-prod-fastlane-01/anigif_sub-buzz-8207-1501252568-1.gif
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:cry muh raw intelligence :cry
Chris
03-16-2019, 05:37 PM
https://twitter.com/Jim_Jordan/status/1106939142418640899
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