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Reck
01-08-2018, 11:56 AM
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Not surprised.

Julian Castro who's in the intelligemce committee in teh House side said the same thing a few weeks ago. The senators in these committees know it. Which is also why Nunes is playing inspector gadget.

boutons_deux
01-08-2018, 12:25 PM
Mueller's Appointment Letter Says More Than You Might Think (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/1/7/1730593/-Mueller-s-Appointment-Letter-Says-More-Than-You-Might-Think)


The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI Director James B. Comey in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on March 20, 2017



Interesting. Mueller’s investigation isn’t really Mueller’s investigation. He is taking over executive control and authority of an ongoing investigation that predates his appointment. We kind of knew that already. However, we should keep in mind that

any estimates of the size of the investigation can not be gleaned from Mueller’s financial reports.

His own office will only report executive oversight costs. It won’t cover any funds authorized by internal FBI/DOJ/DHS/IC sources for line agents.

(i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and

(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and

(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a).


(iii) is interesting because it is also mentioned later in the document. Reading the relevant section of the CFR:
www.law.cornell.edu/… (https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/28/600.4)

It looks like Rosenstein is granting Mueller discretion as to whether to claim jurisdiction over a particular matter or not.

It almost reads like a ‘blanket approval’.

That makes sense, from the standpoint that Mueller is taking over an existing investigation, and inheriting the FBI’s own machinery for handing off cases and criminal investigations as new crimes come to light. Taking the time to consult with Rosenstein when the ‘right answer’ is well established (by existing FBI policy) is largely moot.


(c) If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters.


Well so much for the AG having to sign off on any prosecutions. This line appears redundant with the special counsel regulation:

§ 600.6 Powers and authority.

Subject to the limitations in the following paragraphs, the Special Counsel shall exercise, within the scope of his or her jurisdiction, the full power and independent authority to exercise all investigative and prosecutorial functions of any United States Attorney.

Except as provided in this part, the Special Counsel shall determine whether and to what extent to inform or consult with the Attorney General or others within the Department about the conduct of his or her duties and responsibilities.


Generally such authorization and empowerment letters are not written with a bunch of redundancy. Why would Rosenstein have added a redundant statement? It’s not actually redundant. The words “within the scope of his or her jurisdiction” are missing from the letter. It reads like Rosenstein anticipated maneuvers like Manafort’s lawsuit; and granted Mueller unlimited proprietorial power.

It certainly eliminates any discussion of whether or not Mueller could be removed on grounds of exceeding his proprietorial jurisdiction.


The letter reads with the pattern “Continue with this investigation. The matter at hand is Russian collusion. Prosecute anything you find”.

Conclusion:

Looks like Rosenstein set up Mueller as a pretty well empowered special counsel.

With an appointment letter as arguably broad as that (and with 8 months of endorsement by Rosenstein on decisions),

it won’t be easy for a future AG to neuter the investigation, or fire him for exceeding his authority.

Looks like the only two options are to let the process play out or engage in a naked hatchet job.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/1/7/1730593/-Mueller-s-Appointment-Letter-Says-More-Than-You-Might-Think?detail=emaildkre

boutons_deux
01-08-2018, 01:24 PM
‘He needs to take the Fifth’: Ex-Watergate prosecutor warns Trump is doomed if he sits down with Mueller
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/01/he-needs-to-take-the-fifth-ex-watergate-prosecutor-warns-trump-is-doomed-if-he-sits-down-with-mueller/

:lol That would be a hell of a MISmatch! :lol

Cuppycake Gumdrop
01-08-2018, 02:10 PM
Kushner Under Fire for Receiving $30M From Israeli Firm While Shaping Middle East Policy


(https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/01/08/kushner-under-fire-receiving-30m-israeli-firm-while-shaping-middle-east-policy)https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/01/07/business/jared-kushner-israel.html?referer=https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/01/08/kushner-under-fire-receiving-30m-israeli-firm-while-shaping-middle-east-policy

Mark Celibate
01-08-2018, 02:16 PM
Man eff drumpf and eff ypeepoh

spurraider21
01-08-2018, 02:17 PM
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TSA
01-08-2018, 02:17 PM
Kushner Under Fire for Receiving $30M From Israeli Firm While Shaping Middle East Policy


(https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/01/08/kushner-under-fire-receiving-30m-israeli-firm-while-shaping-middle-east-policy)https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/01/07/business/jared-kushner-israel.html?referer=https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/01/08/kushner-under-fire-receiving-30m-israeli-firm-while-shaping-middle-east-policy

“The business dealings don’t appear to violate federal ethics laws, which require Mr. Kushner to recuse himself only from narrow government decisions that would have a “direct and predictable effect” on his financial interests. And no evidence has emerged that Mr. Kushner was personally involved in brokering the deal.”

:sleep

spurraider21
01-08-2018, 02:19 PM
“The business dealings don’t appear to violate federal ethics laws, which require Mr. Kushner to recuse himself only from narrow government decisions that would have a “direct and predictable effect” on his financial interests. And no evidence has emerged that Mr. Kushner was personally involved in brokering the deal.”

:sleep
thought this was about uranium one for a second

djohn2oo8
01-08-2018, 03:01 PM
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spurraider21
01-08-2018, 03:21 PM
well of course. trump and mueller have to discuss the success of their plan to have Flynn intentionally commit a felony

djohn2oo8
01-08-2018, 03:24 PM
well of course. trump and mueller have to discuss the success of their plan to have Flynn intentionally commit a felony

:lol

Splits
01-08-2018, 03:38 PM
https://img.csfd.cz/files/images/user/profile/161/866/161866476_099f09.gif

:lol

TSA
01-08-2018, 06:07 PM
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The Unraveling

TSA
01-08-2018, 06:45 PM
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The Unraveling

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:lol Nunes getting everything he asked for from Rosenstein
:lol djohn
:lol big ol grin

Pavlov
01-08-2018, 07:02 PM
Now all that's left is to find out who lies to the FBI about it.950371270759256065

baseline bum
01-08-2018, 08:13 PM
well of course. trump and mueller have to discuss the success of their plan to have Flynn intentionally commit a felony

:lmao

Reck
01-09-2018, 01:34 PM
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TSA sup.

djohn2oo8
01-09-2018, 02:00 PM
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djohn2oo8
01-09-2018, 02:02 PM
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djohn2oo8
01-09-2018, 02:03 PM
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djohn2oo8
01-09-2018, 02:08 PM
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djohn2oo8
01-09-2018, 02:09 PM
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spurraider21
01-09-2018, 02:09 PM
seth rich?

djohn2oo8
01-09-2018, 02:11 PM
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djohn2oo8
01-09-2018, 02:15 PM
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djohn2oo8
01-09-2018, 02:18 PM
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Lordy!

djohn2oo8
01-09-2018, 02:20 PM
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TSA

djohn2oo8
01-09-2018, 02:27 PM
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dabom
01-09-2018, 02:28 PM
:lol

djohn2oo8
01-09-2018, 02:28 PM
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djohn2oo8
01-09-2018, 02:29 PM
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djohn2oo8
01-09-2018, 02:30 PM
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djohn2oo8
01-09-2018, 02:33 PM
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Reck
01-09-2018, 02:34 PM
Holy shit.

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Now this is some good shit.

Reck
01-09-2018, 02:35 PM
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Oh. You beat me to it.

No wonder republicans wanted to put Steele in jail and didn't want to release the transcripts. Oops.

dabom
01-09-2018, 02:37 PM
Oh. You beat me to it.

No wonder republicans wanted to put Steele in jail and didn't want to release the transcripts. Oops.

:lol

TSA
01-09-2018, 02:39 PM
Oh. You beat me to it.

No wonder republicans wanted to put Steele in jail and didn't want to release the transcripts. Oops.

Stop making shit up. Fusion GPS didn’t want the transcripts released dipshit :lol

Reck
01-09-2018, 02:41 PM
Stop making shit up. Fusion GPS didn’t want the transcripts released dipshit :lol

The founders released an OP ed saying they wanted it out. We had a discussion about it last week.

:lol TSA

djohn2oo8
01-09-2018, 02:43 PM
Stop making shit up. Fusion GPS didn’t want the transcripts released dipshit :lol
http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/heh.png

djohn2oo8
01-09-2018, 02:47 PM
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spurraider21
01-09-2018, 02:50 PM
lol "super spy"

unnecessary titles

TSA
01-09-2018, 02:52 PM
The founders released an OP ed saying they wanted it out. We had a discussion about it last week.

:lol TSA

And you of course believed their bullshit in the Op-Ed. Fusion GPS did not want the transcripts released, it says so right in the transcripts that were released :lol

From Simpson’s lawyer Mr Levy: ‘We'd like to make a request that it be kept confidential given the sensitivity of the matters discussed today’

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/367332-feud-erupts-between-grassley-and-fusion-gps-over-the-release-of-interview

Spurminator
01-09-2018, 02:54 PM
Stop making shit up. Fusion GPS didn’t want the transcripts released dipshit :lol

Were they lying when they said they wanted the transcripts released? Was this a 5D chess move from Fusion GPS?

TSA
01-09-2018, 02:54 PM
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:lol posts the transcripts that say just that
:lol self induced bitch slapped

Spurminator
01-09-2018, 02:55 PM
And you of course believed their bullshit in the Op-Ed. Fusion GPS did not want the transcripts released, it says so right in the transcripts that were released :lol

From Simpson’s lawyer Mr Levy: ‘We'd like to make a request that it be kept confidential given the sensitivity of the matters discussed today’

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/367332-feud-erupts-between-grassley-and-fusion-gps-over-the-release-of-interview

Seems like a pretty standard lawyer response that didn't factor in the eventual selective release of snippets of the testimony. Understandable that their feelings might change.

TSA
01-09-2018, 02:56 PM
Were they lying when they said they wanted the transcripts released? Was this a 5D chess move from Fusion GPS?

According to their testimony in the transcripts they requested the transcripts not be released. Simpson refused for months for a public hearing and only agreed to a close door session with no release of transcripts.

Spurminator
01-09-2018, 02:56 PM
They didn't really want the transcripts released, but they strategically pushed the "release the transcripts" narrative along with Democrats as a stealth move to... keep them from being released? What?

spurraider21
01-09-2018, 02:58 PM
And you of course believed their bullshit in the Op-Ed. Fusion GPS did not want the transcripts released, it says so right in the transcripts that were released :lol

From Simpson’s lawyer Mr Levy: ‘We'd like to make a request that it be kept confidential given the sensitivity of the matters discussed today’

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/367332-feud-erupts-between-grassley-and-fusion-gps-over-the-release-of-interview
your own article even indicates that the beef was Grassley was selectively releasing part of the transcripts. once they started releasing snippets to put them in a negative light, of course they want the full context revealed.

same shit with the strozk (sp?) texts

Spurminator
01-09-2018, 02:58 PM
According to their testimony in the transcripts they requested the transcripts not be released. Simpson refused for months for a public hearing and only agreed to a close door session with no release of transcripts.

And then snippets were leaked and they decided they want the full context to be public. It's a perfectly understandable change in PR/Legal approach.

Spurminator
01-09-2018, 02:59 PM
If I own a restaurant I'm not going to volunteer all of my recipes, but if someone leaks a couple of ingredients out of context and it damages my brand, I'm releasing the entire recipe to the public.

Reck
01-09-2018, 03:01 PM
And you of course believed their bullshit in the Op-Ed. Fusion GPS did not want the transcripts released, it says so right in the transcripts that were released :lol

From Simpson’s lawyer Mr Levy: ‘We'd like to make a request that it be kept confidential given the sensitivity of the matters discussed today’

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/367332-feud-erupts-between-grassley-and-fusion-gps-over-the-release-of-interview

This article actually doesn't say they shouldn't release it. It says the oposite.


A lawyer for Simpson in a statement Wednesday said his client had already submitted himself to a long interview with Grassley's panel and emphasized that the committee should release the transcript.


“The Chairman’s office misstates the history of Mr. Simpson’s cooperation with its investigation,” said Fusion GPS attorney Joshua Levy in a statement.

"Should the Committee choose to release his testimony, the public will see a 300-page transcript covering 10 hours of questions and answers," he added.



TSA doesn't know how to take his Ls with grace. :lol eternal loser.

I'm starting to think you have a mental condition. You might be worst off then Spurtacular in the brain capacity department.

spurraider21
01-09-2018, 03:02 PM
And then snippets were leaked and they decided they want the full context to be public. It's a perfectly understandable change in PR/Legal approach.
yep. and history repeats. the same thing happened a while back when some emails were leaked in what became known as "climategate" that produced some quotes that looked awful out of context. but of course there were something like 8-10 different investigations as a result, which after reviewing everything found no wrongdoing in any capacity

djohn2oo8
01-09-2018, 03:02 PM
And you of course believed their bullshit in the Op-Ed. Fusion GPS did not want the transcripts released, it says so right in the transcripts that were released :lol

From Simpson’s lawyer Mr Levy: ‘We'd like to make a request that it be kept confidential given the sensitivity of the matters discussed today’

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/367332-feud-erupts-between-grassley-and-fusion-gps-over-the-release-of-interview

950793398276980739
:lmao :lmao

djohn2oo8
01-09-2018, 03:03 PM
You my bitch.

spurraider21
01-09-2018, 03:03 PM
this whole thing is trump playing 24-D chess

first, Fusion GPS didn't want to release transcripts, but through Inception, Trump has now convinced them that they WANTED to release the transcripts

holy shit :worthy:

TSA
01-09-2018, 03:04 PM
This article actually doesn't say they shouldn't release it. It says the oposite.



TSA doesn't know how to take his Ls with grace. :lol eternal loser.

I'm starting to think you have a mental condition. You might be worst off the Spurtacular in the brain capacity department.

The actual transcript says they didn’t want it released dipshit. Read the actual transcript where his lawyer Joshua Levy says they don’t want it released.

TSA
01-09-2018, 03:06 PM
your own article even indicates that the beef was Grassley was selectively releasing part of the transcripts. once they started releasing snippets to put them in a negative light, of course they want the full context revealed.

same shit with the strozk (sp?) texts
What exactly are they accusing Grassley of leaking? Be specific.

djohn2oo8
01-09-2018, 03:06 PM
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:lmao :lmao

TSA

spurraider21
01-09-2018, 03:07 PM
What exactly are they accusing Grassley of leaking? Be specific.
i'm going by your own article


Executives at the opposition research firm are accusing Sen. Chuck Grassley (http://thehill.com/people/chuck-grassley) (R-Iowa) and panel Republicans of selectively leaking snippets of their testimony to paint a distorted picture of their work and the FBI's investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election.

TSA
01-09-2018, 03:07 PM
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:lmao :lmao

:lmao thank you for releasing what we fought so hard against having released

TSA
01-09-2018, 03:08 PM
i'm going by your own article

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And I’m asking what was leaked. What was leaked?

Reck
01-09-2018, 03:12 PM
The actual transcript says they didn’t want it released dipshit. Read the actual transcript where his lawyer Joshua Levy says they don’t want it released.

When was this said? Prior to republicans selectively leaking the parts they wanted or after?

That makes a difference. You're operating under outdated statements.

If they leak shit, then they might as well release the whole thing which is what the founders of Fusion GPS position was.

spurraider21
01-09-2018, 03:12 PM
And I’m asking what was leaked. What was leaked?
i dont follow this nearly as much as you do, which is why i just relied upon the very article you posted. though my understanding of their beef is the claim that the dossier was the trigger of the fbi investigation

djohn2oo8
01-09-2018, 03:13 PM
:lmao thank you for releasing what we fought so hard against having released

:lmao that makes no sense

TSA
01-09-2018, 03:14 PM
i dont follow this nearly as much as you do, which is why i just relied upon the very article you posted. though my understanding of their beef is the claim that the dossier was the trigger of the fbi investigation

I’ve seen nothing leaked of the transcripts from Grassley.

TSA
01-09-2018, 03:14 PM
When was this said? Prior to republicans selectively leaking the parts they wanted or after?

That makes a difference. You're operating under outdated statements.

If they leak shit, then they might as well release the whole thing which is what the founders of Fusion GPS position was.what from the transcripts did Republicans selectively leak?

djohn2oo8
01-09-2018, 03:15 PM
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spurraider21
01-09-2018, 03:16 PM
I’ve seen nothing leaked of the transcripts from Grassley.
so in your opinion, why did they write an op-ed asking for the full transcript to be released?

djohn2oo8
01-09-2018, 03:16 PM
Pisser is quite triggered.

Brazil
01-09-2018, 03:20 PM
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TSA
01-09-2018, 03:22 PM
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(CNN) The financial records that Fusion GPS fought for months to keep out of the hands of Congress have been turned over, according to a new court filing.

TD Bank "has produced all remaining responsive documents" to the House Intelligence Committee under the terms of a confidential settlement, a lawyer for the House wrote Friday afternoon.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/01/04/politics/fusion-gps-bank-records-house-investigation/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

:lol transparency

djohn2oo8
01-09-2018, 03:27 PM
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Spurminator
01-09-2018, 03:27 PM
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(CNN) The financial records that Fusion GPS fought for months to keep out of the hands of Congress have been turned over, according to a new court filing.

TD Bank "has produced all remaining responsive documents" to the House Intelligence Committee under the terms of a confidential settlement, a lawyer for the House wrote Friday afternoon.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/01/04/politics/fusion-gps-bank-records-house-investigation/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

:lol transparency

Strawman

boutons_deux
01-09-2018, 03:29 PM
rightwingnutjob outrage over Fusion does nothing to disprove Steele's dossier.

Why do the Repug intel committee(s) refuse to release Fusion's testimony?

Just like for almost 2 years of watching Trash's clown show gives credibility, plausibility to Wolff's book, every bit of it.

btw, Trash's approval rating descends, implicating a fucking ignorant idiots those who STILL approve of him

4 scary numbers for Republicans in 2018

http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/08/politics/2018-midterm-elections/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/08/politics/2018-midterm-elections/index.html)



Strong Economies Lift Presidents. Trump Seems an Exception.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/08/upshot/strong-economies-lift-presidents-trump-seems-an-exception.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/08/upshot/strong-economies-lift-presidents-trump-seems-an-exception.html)

Reck
01-09-2018, 03:32 PM
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(CNN) The financial records that Fusion GPS fought for months to keep out of the hands of Congress have been turned over, according to a new court filing.

TD Bank "has produced all remaining responsive documents" to the House Intelligence Committee under the terms of a confidential settlement, a lawyer for the House wrote Friday afternoon.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/01/04/politics/fusion-gps-bank-records-house-investigation/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

:lol transparency

So now you have a problem with them because they have ethics? :lol

As an individual, you should feel like this lawyer is actually doing his job and should be thankful he's protecting the identity of his client instead of singing like a bird.

With that said, what else do you need to know other than the fact the dossier was first started by a republican donor. :lol Thinking a lawyer is going to dox his own client.

Spurminator
01-09-2018, 03:33 PM
According to their testimony in the transcripts they requested the transcripts not be released. Simpson refused for months for a public hearing and only agreed to a close door session with no release of transcripts.


And then snippets were leaked and they decided they want the full context to be public. It's a perfectly understandable change in PR/Legal approach.


The actual transcript says they didn’t want it released dipshit. Read the actual transcript where his lawyer Joshua Levy says they don’t want it released.

Notice the selective acknowledgement of responses to his narrative.

Good soldier!

TSA
01-09-2018, 03:34 PM
So now you have a problem with them because they have ethics? :lol

As an individual, you should feel like this lawyer is actually doing his job and should be thankful he's protecting the identity of his client instead of singing like a bird.

With that said, what else do you need to know other than the fact the dossier was first started by a republican donor. :lol Thinking a lawyer is going to dox his own client.

:lol semen shielding a smear factory
:lol Fusion GPS ethics
:lol still thinks a Republican donor started the Steele dossier

djohn2oo8
01-09-2018, 03:34 PM
The Unraveling

TSA
01-09-2018, 03:34 PM
Notice the selective acknowledgement of responses to his narrative.

Good soldier!

What snippets were leaked? Support your narrative.

TSA
01-09-2018, 03:35 PM
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:rollin

TSA
01-09-2018, 03:37 PM
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Reck
01-09-2018, 03:40 PM
:lol semen shielding a smear factory
:lol Fusion GPS ethics
:lol still thinks a Republican donor started the Steele dossier

I know you live in your own little world where you think you're right 100% of the time.

What a life.

djohn2oo8
01-09-2018, 03:40 PM
Look at him go!

Pavlov
01-09-2018, 03:42 PM
TSA biting dem ankles.

Reck
01-09-2018, 03:43 PM
That Grassley guy..he seems stable.

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Spurminator
01-09-2018, 03:43 PM
What snippets were leaked? Support your narrative.

Are you saying nothing from the testimony was released? Is your position that Fusion GPS and Democrats, for no reason and despite no demand to do so (on top of not even wanting to do so), called for the testimony to be leaked just because?

This makes no sense. Your theory is nonsense.

djohn2oo8
01-09-2018, 03:46 PM
TSA biting dem ankles.

:lol

djohn2oo8
01-09-2018, 03:46 PM
That Grassley guy..he seems stable.

950813177759109120

Grassley has Russian interests.

TSA
01-09-2018, 03:46 PM
I know you live in your own little world where you think you're right 100% of the time.

What a life.

I’m 100% right that the Steele dossier was never started or funded by a Republican donor.

TSA
01-09-2018, 03:47 PM
Are you saying nothing from the testimony was released? Is your position that Fusion GPS and Democrats, for no reason and despite no demand to do so (on top of not even wanting to do so), called for the testimony to be leaked just because?

This makes no sense. Your theory is nonsense.
Again, what snippets were leaked?

TSA
01-09-2018, 03:49 PM
Why were Strzok and Page tracking down a reporters wife and kids?


“The two agents also spent extensive time shortly before the 2016 election trying to track down information - including an address and a spouse's job - about The New York Times reporter Matt Apuzzo, who has reported on numerous developments in the Russia case.

"We got a list of kids with their parents' names. How many Matt Apuzzo's (sic) could there be in DC," Page texted. "Showed J a picture, he said he thinks he has seen a guy who kinda looks like that, but always really schlubby. I said that sounds like every reporter I have ever seen."

A minute later, Page added another text: "Found what I think might be their address, too."

Strzok writes back, "He's TOTALLY schlubby. Don't you remember?"

Page responded later by saying she found information on the reporter's wife too. "Found address looking for her. Lawyer."

Strzok cautions Page against using the work phone to track down information on the reporter. "I wouldn't search on your work phone, ,,, no idea what that might trigger," he texted.

"Oops. Too late," she responded back.

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/368003-fbi-agents-text-messages-spur-congressional-probe-into-possible-news-leaks?amp&__twitter_impression=true

TSA
01-09-2018, 03:52 PM
950536567348711429


The Unraveling

Reck
01-09-2018, 03:53 PM
I’m 100% right that the Steele dossier was never started or funded by a Republican donor.

Of course not because by that point, Hillary's people picked it up after the republicans dropped it.

But the dossier on Trump was 100% started by a republican donor. The Free Beacon admits as much. This is not debatable.

Pavlov
01-09-2018, 03:53 PM
TSA in pretty much full denial at this point.

TSA
01-09-2018, 03:57 PM
Of course not because by that point, Hillary's people picked it up after the republicans dropped it.

But the dossier on Trump was 100% started by a republican donor. The Free Beacon admits as much. This is not debatable.

The dossier started by Republicans is not the Steele dossier. Steele was hired once Democrats retained Fusion GPS. Republicans did not fund the Steele dossier. It shouldn’t be this difficult for you to understand.

TSA
01-09-2018, 04:01 PM
950819364676157440

Spurminator
01-09-2018, 04:05 PM
Again, what snippets were leaked?

You know the answer to this and it's a sad redirection attempt from the current question you're avoiding: Why would Fusion GPS call for their testimony to be released if they didn't want it released?

Don't mistake my interest in mocking your wild delusions with an interest in the detailed specifics of this case. You're the one who is engrossed with this for hours a day.

Reck
01-09-2018, 04:06 PM
The dossier started by Republicans is not the Steele dossier. Steele was hired once Democrats retained Fusion GPS. Republicans did not fund the Steele dossier. It shouldn’t be this difficult for you to understand.

The "Steele dossier" is based on the dossier from the one the Free Beacon started. When Steele came in, he just added more stuff to it. The original dossier became the Steel dossier.

It's not so hard to understand.

TSA
01-09-2018, 04:09 PM
The "Steele dossier" is based on the dossier from the one the Free Beacon started. When Steele came in, he just added more stuff to it. The original dossier became the Steel dossier.

It's not so hard to understand.

:rollin no, just no. Wrong again.

Reck
01-09-2018, 04:11 PM
Ok then.

TSA
01-09-2018, 04:14 PM
You know the answer to this and it's a sad redirection attempt from the current question you're avoiding: Why would Fusion GPS call for their testimony to be released if they didn't want it released?

Don't mistake my interest in mocking your wild delusions with an interest in the detailed specifics of this case. You're the one who is engrossed with this for hours a day.

I don’t know what snippets were released that is why I asked both you and spurraider. So what snippets were released?

Fusion GPS is attempting to make themselves look transparent after doing everything in their power beforehand to not be transparent.

no public hearing
invoke 5th
subpoena
negotiate closed door testimony—don’t release transcripts
won’t turn over bank records

Why did they fight so hard to not have it released and why have they fought the committees requests so hard?

TSA
01-09-2018, 04:30 PM
950821508896747520

What are they hiding?

Reck
01-09-2018, 04:55 PM
What are they hiding?

That sweet pineapple pizza.

Reck
01-09-2018, 05:02 PM
950830928322072576

950832488321961984

950832852006047745

950833309654888449

Republican didn't first fund the dossier. :lol

spurraider21
01-09-2018, 05:12 PM
well TSA hangs his hat on the fact that Steele wasn't hired until democrat funding came in... so the question is, how much of "the dossier" includes stuff before steele was hired

RandomGuy
01-09-2018, 05:34 PM
well TSA hangs his hat on the fact that Steele wasn't hired until democrat funding came in... so the question is, how much of "the dossier" includes stuff before steele was hired

I would guess not much. Steele's contacts were somewhat unique, which is why he was brought in. Steele probably did get some direction from Fusion based on earlier work, as in what to ask about. I can see that based on the released testimony.

RandomGuy
01-09-2018, 05:40 PM
TSA biting dem ankles.

It is a good distraction from the main points of the dossier, which seem to be panning out, i.e. a multifaceted collusion between the Russian government and Trump. The disinformation campaign that the Russian ran was pretty standard fare for them, and who they wanted to win was pretty clear.

DarrinS
01-09-2018, 06:14 PM
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/455267/christopher-steele-dossier-obama-administration-hillary-clinton-campaign-congress-fisa-court

Pavlov
01-09-2018, 06:22 PM
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/455267/christopher-steele-dossier-obama-administration-hillary-clinton-campaign-congress-fisa-courtDude just seems to be making shit up now.

TSA
01-09-2018, 06:51 PM
well TSA hangs his hat on the fact that Steele wasn't hired until democrat funding came in... so the question is, how much of "the dossier" includes stuff before steele was hired

I don’t think there is a single thing Steele put in the dossier that didn’t come from Steele’s sources.

TSA
01-09-2018, 06:52 PM
950844107391426560

Reck
01-09-2018, 06:53 PM
Oh that’s a new angle. Obama and his marrionetes had a say in the dossier now.

djohn2oo8
01-09-2018, 06:56 PM
Oh that’s a new angle. Obama and his marrionetes had a say in the dossier now.

Just like Obama wiretapped Trump.

koriwhat
01-09-2018, 06:57 PM
Just like Obama wiretapped Trump.

uh because he did.

Reck
01-09-2018, 07:02 PM
uh because he did.

Jesus almighty.

koriwhat
01-09-2018, 07:04 PM
Jesus almighty.

you claiming otherwise? it was during his administration that a few agencies were spying on not only trump but quite a few "interesting" people(usa citizens).

Reck
01-09-2018, 07:09 PM
you claiming otherwise? it was during his administration that a few agencies were spying on not only trump but quite a few "interesting" people(usa citizens).

Even TSA had to get off this claim a while back. You’re still pedaling a myth. Lmao

TSA
01-09-2018, 07:11 PM
950844107391426560

Why did top DOJ official Bruce Ohr conceal his meetings with Fusion GPS’s Glenn Simpson?

koriwhat
01-09-2018, 07:12 PM
Even TSA had to get off this claim a while back. You’re still pedaling a myth. Lmao

a myth? like vault 7? a myth? lmao! wake the fuck up reck.

TSA
01-09-2018, 07:13 PM
Even TSA had to get off this claim a while back. You’re still pedaling a myth. Lmao

Trump Tower was under surveillance. Trump was “wiretapped”

TSA
01-09-2018, 07:13 PM
Dude just seems to be making shit up now.

What did McCarthy make up? Be specific.

koriwhat
01-09-2018, 07:15 PM
Trump Tower was under surveillance. Trump was “wiretapped”

reck just doesn't want to believe in truths and doesn't live in this reality. maybe reck is just hung up on the semantics of things? is "wiretapped" such an outdated term afterall?

dabom
01-09-2018, 07:16 PM
a myth? like vault 7? a myth? lmao! wake the fuck up reck.

:lol

koriwhat
01-09-2018, 07:17 PM
:lol

not sure what you're laughing at exactly... maybe the fact that your privacy isn't private and big gov thinks it has the right to check in on you at any time of day. either way, i think that's bs and we should all be upset and not LOL'ing because you just want to laugh at those who don't share your same ideals.

DarrinS
01-09-2018, 07:18 PM
Dude just seems to be making shit up now.

Which part?

dabom
01-09-2018, 07:21 PM
not sure what you're laughing at exactly... maybe the fact that your privacy isn't private and big gov thinks it has the right to check in on you at any time of day. either way, i think that's bs and we should all be upset and not LOL'ing because you just want to laugh at those who don't share your same ideals.

There's no proof of that. :lol

Unless you got some proof. :lol

Debunked. Facts.

Pavlov
01-09-2018, 07:21 PM
What did McCarthy make up? Be specific.FISA evidence.

Somehow they fooled the judge!

TSA
01-09-2018, 07:26 PM
So at the end of it all, Rosenstein handed over nothing. Nada. Zilch. Glad we agree.


EXCLUSIVE: House Intel Committee Has Received All Docs On Trump Dossier From DOJ, FBI

:rollin

House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence members gained access to all Department of Justice and FBI documents it possesses on the Trump dossier, The Daily Caller News Foundation has learned.

The committee was able to review Friday all FBI and DOJ documents on the Trump dossier, former MI-6 British agent Christopher Steele who authored the dossier, and Fusion GPS, the political opposition firm that hired Steele. DOJ also provided any Obama administration applications to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court based on the dossier, which could approve the surveillance of the Trump transition team or Trump associates, according to a source with direct knowledge of the case.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/08/exclusive-house-intel-information-has-received-all-docs-on-trump-dossier-from-doj-and-fb-i/?utm_campaign=atdailycaller&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

The Unraveling

DarrinS
01-09-2018, 07:29 PM
FISA evidence.

Somehow they fooled the judge!


McCarthy makes a pretty strong case that parts of the dossier appear to have been used to persuade a FISC judge.

Is that “making shit up”?

DarrinS
01-09-2018, 07:30 PM
EXCLUSIVE: House Intel Committee Has Received All Docs On Trump Dossier From DOJ, FBI

:rollin

House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence members gained access to all Department of Justice and FBI documents it possesses on the Trump dossier, The Daily Caller News Foundation has learned.

The committee was able to review Friday all FBI and DOJ documents on the Trump dossier, former MI-6 British agent Christopher Steele who authored the dossier, and Fusion GPS, the political opposition firm that hired Steele. DOJ also provided any Obama administration applications to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court based on the dossier, which could approve the surveillance of the Trump transition team or Trump associates, according to a source with direct knowledge of the case.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/08/exclusive-house-intel-information-has-received-all-docs-on-trump-dossier-from-doj-and-fb-i/?utm_campaign=atdailycaller&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

The Unraveling


Well, I guess we’ll find out soon. :tu

Pavlov
01-09-2018, 07:43 PM
McCarthy makes a pretty strong case that parts of the dossier appear to have been used to persuade a FISC judge.

Is that “making shit up”?He's acting as if he's right without a doubt and that nothing in the dossier at all was confirmed -- and fooled a FISC judge into accepting it without question.

How likely do you think that is, Darrin? Take a stand for once.

TSA
01-09-2018, 07:58 PM
He's acting as if he's right without a doubt and that nothing in the dossier at all was confirmed -- and fooled a FISC judge into accepting it without question.

How likely do you think that is, Darrin? Take a stand for once.

A FISC judge wouldn’t need to be fooled if the judge was corrupt and in on it. With Nunes receiving all FISA documents we’ll soon find out who signed off on the FISA warrant. My money is on Obama appointee Rudolph Contreras, the same judge who recused himself from the Mike Flynn case.

spurraider21
01-09-2018, 08:04 PM
A FISC judge wouldn’t need to be fooled if the judge was corrupt and in on it. With Nunes receiving all FISA documents we’ll soon find out who signed off on the FISA warrant. My money is on Obama appointee Rudolph Contreras, the same judge who recused himself from the Mike Flynn case.
im confused though. i thought flynn committing a felony and pleading guilty was all part of the plan? so if you think this FISC judge is corrupt and was in on it, then according to your own grand conspiracy theory, this judge was "in" on the plan devised by Trump and Flynn :wow

:wow trump is going down
:wow the unraveling

DarrinS
01-09-2018, 08:12 PM
He's acting as if he's right without a doubt and that nothing in the dossier at all was confirmed -- and fooled a FISC judge into accepting it without question.

How likely do you think that is, Darrin? Take a stand for once.


Based on everything known and the timeline, I’d say pretty likely.

djohn2oo8
01-09-2018, 08:31 PM
Trump Tower was under surveillance. Trump was “wiretapped”

You said Obama did it. And you were wrong.

djohn2oo8
01-09-2018, 08:32 PM
im confused though. i thought flynn committing a felony and pleading guilty was all part of the plan? so if you think this FISC judge is corrupt and was in on it, then according to your own grand conspiracy theory, this judge was "in" on the plan devised by Trump and Flynn :wow

:wow trump is going down
:wow the unraveling

:lol

koriwhat
01-09-2018, 08:32 PM
You said Obama did it. And you were wrong.

on his clock... his problem.

djohn2oo8
01-09-2018, 08:33 PM
on his clock... his problem.

Where is your proof Obama wiretapped?

koriwhat
01-09-2018, 08:35 PM
Where is your proof Obama wiretapped?

so check it... if it wasn't obama(his administration), then who was it and who's administration? we can go around and around but we'll end up nowhere.

TSA
01-09-2018, 09:01 PM
950793123835326465

spurraider21
01-09-2018, 09:29 PM
950793123835326465
:wow the unraveling
:wow the fisc judge was corrupt and "in" on trump's "master" plan

djohn2oo8
01-09-2018, 09:42 PM
so check it... if it wasn't obama(his administration), then who was it and who's administration? we can go around and around but we'll end up nowhere.

I asked you. Where is your proof? You have not provided any.

koriwhat
01-09-2018, 09:45 PM
I asked you. Where is your proof? You have not provided any.

you're serious? so we're going to just act like obama was sitting there and unbeknownst to him these agencies were just spying left and right on trump and citizens nationally?

TSA
01-09-2018, 09:51 PM
:wow the unraveling
:wow the fisc judge was corrupt and "in" on trump's "master" plan

:lol sharing an ankle with Chumpdumper

Pavlov
01-09-2018, 10:02 PM
A FISC judge wouldn’t need to be fooled if the judge was corrupt and in on it. With Nunes receiving all FISA documents we’ll soon find out who signed off on the FISA warrant. My money is on Obama appointee Rudolph Contreras, the same judge who recused himself from the Mike Flynn case.So the conspiracy goes even deeper!

lol

boutons_deux
01-09-2018, 10:17 PM
Republican Senators Raise Possible Charges Against Author of Trump Dossier

More than a year after Republican leaders promised to investigate Russian interference in the presidential election,

two influential Republicans on Friday made the first known congressional criminal referral in connection with the meddling —

against one of the people who sought to expose it.
Senator Charles E. Grassley of Iowa, the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, and Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, a senior committee member, told the Justice Department that

they had reason to believe that a former British spy, Christopher Steele, lied to federal authorities about his contacts with reporters regarding information in a dossier,

and they urged the department to investigate.

The committee is running one of three congressional investigations into Russian election meddling, and its inquiry has come to focus on, in part,

Mr. Steele’s explosive dossier that purported to detail Russia’s interference and the Trump campaign’s complicity.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/05/us/politics/christopher-steele-dossier-judiciary-committee.html

TSA
01-09-2018, 10:29 PM
5ZsELbp7fi0

Adm. Mike Rogers, a true Patriot.

djohn2oo8
01-09-2018, 11:47 PM
you're serious? so we're going to just act like obama was sitting there and unbeknownst to him these agencies were just spying left and right on trump and citizens nationally?

So you have nothing to back up your claims? Okay then.

TSA
01-10-2018, 01:45 AM
950830928322072576

950832488321961984

950832852006047745

950833309654888449

Republican didn't first fund the dossier. :lol

950923034029953024

:rollin

Reck
01-10-2018, 08:07 AM
TSA likes to amuse himself.

boutons_deux
01-10-2018, 08:29 AM
Looks like Steele was a whisteblower,

informing the FBI of Trash/Trash mafiya business with Pootin,

so naturally the corrupt, lawless Repugs (eg, Grassley, Nunes, "Trash is a kook" L. Graham), try to obstruct justice,

by referring Steele for a criminal investigation.

Repugs and Repug/Trash supporters are corrupt.

Will the mythical, apocryphal? rule of law win, or will corrupt oligarchy-whore'd Repugs win?

djohn2oo8
01-10-2018, 10:25 AM
lol trump upset about Feinstein

djohn2oo8
01-10-2018, 10:29 AM
951111406597885952

djohn2oo8
01-10-2018, 10:30 AM
951111406597885952 Trill Clinton

"Somebody do something!"
http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/damn.png

djohn2oo8
01-10-2018, 10:43 AM
951115611676999680

Trill Clinton
01-10-2018, 10:46 AM
Trill Clinton (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20413)

"Somebody do something!"
http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/damn.png


this rant means something new is about to come up http://i66.tinypic.com/99osw0.jpg

RandomGuy
01-10-2018, 11:36 AM
McCarthy makes a pretty strong case that parts of the dossier appear to have been used to persuade a FISC judge.

Is that “making shit up”?


The key takeaway is that the FBI was already investigating potential links between Donald Trump’s campaign and the Russian government before they got the Steele dossier. The hearing lasted for hours, and the transcript is extremely long and fairly tedious. But Simpson does clearly state that when Steele spoke to the FBI about his findings, the bureau “believed Chris’s information might be credible because they had other intelligence that indicated the same thing, and one of those pieces of intelligence was a human source from inside the Trump organization.”

https://www.vox.com/2018/1/10/16873614/trump-tweet-feinstein

RandomGuy
01-10-2018, 11:41 AM
950793123835326465


The key takeaway is that the FBI was already investigating potential links between Donald Trump’s campaign and the Russian government before they got the Steele dossier. The hearing lasted for hours, and the transcript is extremely long and fairly tedious. But Simpson does clearly state that when Steele spoke to the FBI about his findings, the bureau “believed Chris’s information might be credible because they had other intelligence that indicated the same thing, and one of those pieces of intelligence was a human source from inside the Trump organization.”

https://www.vox.com/2018/1/10/16873614/trump-tweet-Feinstein

Interesting that your post doesn't acknowledge that he answered no, and that was readily ascertainable in your excerpt.

RandomGuy
01-10-2018, 11:42 AM
lol trump upset about Feinstein


Conservatives have recently been pushing a theory that the basis for the FBI investigation was an opposition research document compiled at the behest of Clinton’s campaign. Simpson’s testimony seems to confirm the Times account and thereby debunk a conservative counternarrative that places the dossier itself at the center of the story.

Pavlov
01-10-2018, 11:45 AM
https://www.vox.com/2018/1/10/16873614/trump-tweet-FeinsteinTSA and Darrin have been trying their damndest to bury the lede here. Thanks for reminding everyone.

TSA
01-10-2018, 12:11 PM
https://www.vox.com/2018/1/10/16873614/trump-tweet-Feinstein

Interesting that your post doesn't acknowledge that he answered no, and that was readily ascertainable in your excerpt.

Sorry but he did not answer no and left it open.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTHkzSPXUAAKrCq.jpg

TSA
01-10-2018, 12:12 PM
TSA and Darrin have been trying their damndest to bury the lede here. Thanks for reminding everyone.

Pavlov 2017 dossier good
Pavlov 2018 dossier bad

DarrinS
01-10-2018, 12:16 PM
https://www.vox.com/2018/1/10/16873614/trump-tweet-Feinstein

Interesting that your post doesn't acknowledge that he answered no, and that was readily ascertainable in your excerpt.


“Papadopoulos was the start of the investigation”

We’ll see

Pavlov
01-10-2018, 12:16 PM
Pavlov 2017 dossier good
Pavlov 2018 dossier bad:lol TSA still trying to bite dem ankles.

The dossier itself is just a thing.

TSA
01-10-2018, 12:16 PM
Conservatives have recently been pushing a theory that the basis for the FBI investigation was an opposition research document compiled at the behest of Clinton’s campaign. Simpson’s testimony seems to confirm the Times account and thereby debunk a conservative counternarrative that places the dossier itself at the center of the story.

2017 Times pushes dossier as central piece of story
2018 Times laughs at dossier as central piece of story

DarrinS
01-10-2018, 12:18 PM
Papadopoulos was the start of the investigation, but FISA warrant is on Page. :lol

Pavlov
01-10-2018, 12:19 PM
TSA 2017 Pizzagate!
TSA 2018 Corrupt FISC judge!

TSA
01-10-2018, 12:19 PM
“Papadopoulos was the start of the investigation”

We’ll see

It doesn't matter what started the investigation...it's all just a distraction attempt to deflect from the revelations coming out from the top of the DOJ and FBI.

dabom
01-10-2018, 12:21 PM
TSA 2017 Pizzagate!
TSA 2018 Corrupt FISC judge!

:lol

Reck
01-10-2018, 12:22 PM
Pavlov 2017 dossier good
Pavlov 2018 dossier bad

Is he actually saying that?

2017: Dossier pee pee good
2018: Dossier got even better

TSA
01-10-2018, 12:23 PM
Keep your eyes out for Dana Boente and John Carlin when the OIG investigation results start being revealed.

Pavlov
01-10-2018, 12:24 PM
Keep your eyes out for Dana Boente and John Carlin when the OIG investigation results start being revealed.What are you saying will happen with them?

Reck
01-10-2018, 12:25 PM
What are you saying will happen with them?

+1

TSA
01-10-2018, 12:51 PM
Keep your eyes out for Dana Boente and John Carlin when the OIG investigation results start being revealed.Mike Rogers---true Patriot



Adm. Michael Rogers: So in 2016 I had directed our office of compliance let's do a fundamental baseline review of compliance associated with 702. We completed that effort. My memory is I was briefed on something like October 20. That led me to believe technical solution we put in place is not working with the reliability that's necessary. Then from memory, had through -- went to the department of justice and then onto the FISA court. At the end of October I think it was something like the 26th of October and we informed the court we have a compliance issue here and we're concerned there's an underlying issue with the technical solution that we put in place. We told the court we need to work our time to work through that. The court granted us that time. In return, the court also said we will allow you to continue 702 under the 16 authorizations, but not re-authorize 17 until you show us that you have addressed this. We then went through an internal process interacted with the Department of Justice as well as the court and by March we had come to a solution that the FISA court was comfortable with. The court then authorized us to execute that solution and also then granted us authority for the 17-702 effort.

Senator Lankford: So, you reported initially to the court and said we have an issue or the court initially came to you that said we have an issue?

Adm. Michael Rogers: I went to the court and said we have an issue.

Senator Lankford: And it got held up, went through the process of review. Then the court signed off on the other 16?

Adm. Michael Rogers: That's correct.

Senator Lankford: How has it harmed your collection capabilities to be able to not do the about collections?

Adm. Michael Rogers: I acknowledged in doing this that we were going to lose some intelligence value but my concern was, I felt it was important we needed to be able to show we are fully compliant with the law and the technical solution we put in place I didn't think was generating the level of reliability. And as a result of that, I said we need to make the change. I will say this -- in the FISA court opinion also says the same thing. Also told the court at the time, if we can work that technical solution in the way it generates greater reliability, I would potentially come back to the Department of Justice and the court to recommend that we reinstitute it. In fact, the court acknowledged that in their certification.

Senator Lankford: When you say greater reliability, tell me what you mean by that.

Adm. Michael Rogers: It was generating errors. Our Office of Compliance highlighted the specific number of cases in 2016. And I thought to myself, clearly it's not working as we think it is. We were doing queries unknowingly to the operator in a handful of situations against U.S. persons. And I just said, hey, that is not in accordance with the intent of the law.

Senator Lankford: Clearly, it’s not only the intent, but actual statue itself. That we protect US persons from foreign directed. So, what I’m hearing is the accountability system worked? (4:03, can’t make out what the Senator is saying.)

Adm. Michael Rogers: Yes, sir.

Senator Lankford: The issue rose up - we do have information on U.S. persons. We don't want to get the information immediately - the process started going through to stop it -- the court then put the final stop on it. It was corrected and that's now cleared?

Adm. Michael Rogers: Yes, sir. We are purging the data as well. Not only have we stopped doing it but we are purging the data we collected under the previous authorization.

https://www.lankford.senate.gov/news/press-releases/senator-lankford-questions-intel-chiefs-on-fisa-russia-investigation

Secret Court Rebuked N.S.A. on Surveillance

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/22/us/2011-ruling-found-an-nsa-program-unconstitutional.html

Carlin steps down
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/head-of-justice-departments-national-security-division-to-step-down/2016/09/27/59cb95c4-84e6-11e6-ac72-a29979381495_story.html?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.b2f3dff61e90


Trump orders Intelligence Community to develop procedures when “unmasking” Americans

President Donald Trump ordered Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats Tuesday to put in place procedures for intelligence and law enforcement officials requesting the unmasking of American citizens and the dissemination of those names in foreign intelligence reports, according to a White House memorandum obtained by this reporter.

Trump has given the DNI 30 days to “issue and release publicly a policy requiring that each element of the Intelligence Community (IC) develop and maintain procedures for responding to requests from Federal, State, local, tribal, or territorial government officials for non-public identity information concerning known unconsenting United States persons that was originally omitted from disseminated intelligence reports.”

The DNI must develop procedures with all 16 intelligence agencies and law enforcement “for the collection, retention, and dissemination of information concerning United States persons established pursuant to section 2.3 of Executive Order 12333 of December 4, 1981 (United States Intelligence Activities), as amended.”

The memorandum states the DNI must also include procedures for the “standard minimization procedures established pursuant to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (50 U.S.C. 1801 et seq.); and… any other procedures for the collection, retention, or dissemination of information concerning United States persons required by law.”

The memorandum also states that the DNI “may not modify or otherwise supersede the issued guidance, or any successor guidance, absent notification to the President, through the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs, of the proposed modifications or new guidance and the passage of 30 days following such notification.”

U.S. Intelligence and law enforcement officials told this reporter in a story published in December, that a controversial NSA surveillance program used to monitor foreigners was also being used by the FBI as ‘backdoor’ to gain warrantless access to American communications.

The whistleblowers, who recently disclosed the program’s process to Congressional oversight committees, said they were concerned over the warrantless surveillance program when it was disclosed earlier this year that Obama officials had accessed and unmasked communications of members of President Trump’s 2016 campaign, allegedly without clear justification.

The process, known as ‘reverse targeting,’ occurs when intelligence and law enforcement officials use a foreign person as a legal pretense for their intended target, an American citizen, the officials stated. The program, as it exists, failed to prevent terror attacks and in many cases made incorrect connections between a foreign target and an innocent American, they stated.

The whistleblowers said the program established after the September 11, 2001, attacks has not been successful in preventing terror threats, but instead infringes on privacy rights and could easily be abused for political purposes. Those concerns were also voiced to then FBI Director James Comey in 2014, and alternative options for the program were discussed, a source with knowledge said. And now, those intelligence officials want lawmakers to conduct extensive investigations into the program.

“The program can be misused by anyone with access to it,” said a former Intelligence official, with knowledge of the program. “There needs to be an extensive investigation of all the Americans connected to President Trump and the campaign who were unmasked in connection with the 2016 election.”

boutons_deux
01-10-2018, 01:01 PM
TSA doesn't question why Trash refuses to say anything negative about Pootin and Russia, nor why so many of Trash's mafiya were in contact with Russians of a long time, and then "forgot" about the contacts in Congressional/FBI testimony.

FISA / 702 isn't the problem at hand. It's the blantant, ongoing coverup, and failing to detail the financials with Russia by Trash and his mafiya of all of their dealings with Russia.

If those dealings were legal and at least above board, then why the coverup?

The smoke is too thick from too many people. There Will Be Fire.

TSA, etc are complicit with the coverup with unending deflections

RandomGuy
01-10-2018, 01:02 PM
Sorry but he did not answer no and left it open.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTHkzSPXUAAKrCq.jpg

"not to my recollection" and "generally not how we frame" projects.

That is a "no" by any reasonable interpretation.

Pavlov
01-10-2018, 01:02 PM
lol walls of text

Can't you ever just say something?

RandomGuy
01-10-2018, 01:03 PM
Keep your eyes out for Dana Boente and John Carlin when the OIG investigation results start being revealed.

No fucking thank you.

Let me know when the OIG looks into pizza-gate. :rollin

RandomGuy
01-10-2018, 01:06 PM
It doesn't matter what started the investigation...it's all just a distraction attempt to deflect from the revelations coming out from the top of the DOJ and FBI.

... says the guy trying to distract and deflect about the President of the United States colluding with a hostile foreign government to win office, and actively ignoring the massive conflicts of interest by that same corrupt president.

TSA
01-10-2018, 01:09 PM
"not to my recollection" and "generally not how we frame" projects.

That is a "no" by any reasonable interpretation.

:lol no it isn't

TSA
01-10-2018, 01:10 PM
... says the guy trying to distract and deflect about the President of the United States colluding with a hostile foreign government to win office, and actively ignoring the massive conflicts of interest by that same corrupt president.

:lmao

Reck
01-10-2018, 01:10 PM
Isn't Mike Rogers retiring soon?

TSA
01-10-2018, 01:19 PM
Isn't Mike Rogers retiring soon?

Yup. And he'll be able to testify freely as a US citizen.

Pavlov
01-10-2018, 01:22 PM
Yup. And he'll be able to testify freely as a US citizen.TSA 2017: I can't wait for Simpson's testimony!
TSA 2018: I'm going to avoid talking about the most significant parts of Simpson's testimony!

Will probably be the same with Rogers -- if he even testifies anywhere.

TSA
01-10-2018, 01:24 PM
No fucking thank you.

Let me know when the OIG looks into pizza-gate. :rollinThis is a good prep for what the OIG is about to reveal. You can only keep your head in the sand for so long.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/05/operation-condor-how-nsa-director-mike-rogers-saved-the-u-s-from-a-massive-constitutional-crisis/

Pavlov
01-10-2018, 01:24 PM
lol sundance

TSA
01-10-2018, 01:26 PM
TSA 2017: I can't wait for Simpson's testimony!
TSA 2018: I'm going to avoid talking about the most significant parts of Simpson's testimony!

Will probably be the same with Rogers -- if he even testifies anywhere.

Do you ever tire of lying?

TSA
01-10-2018, 01:26 PM
lol sundance

lol no rebuttal

djohn2oo8
01-10-2018, 01:28 PM
Do you ever tire of lying?

How did Pizzagate work out for you? Did Hillary have Seth Rich murdered?

Pavlov
01-10-2018, 01:29 PM
Do you ever tire of lying?It's what you're doing, TSA. Too bad for you.


lol no rebuttal
It's just another wall of text. I already dealt with operation Condor and its likelys. You melted down over it.

You did the same with pizzagate and told us all to get ready for that too.

lol

RandomGuy
01-10-2018, 01:37 PM
Do you ever tire of lying?

Do you?

TSA
01-10-2018, 01:41 PM
How did Pizzagate work out for you? Did Hillary have Seth Rich murdered?

Worked out great. More human trafficking arrests in 2017 than any other year in history.

Seth Rich case is still unsolved so who put the hit on him still TBD.

TSA
01-10-2018, 01:42 PM
Do you?

If I lied as much as Chumpdumper I suppose I would.

djohn2oo8
01-10-2018, 01:43 PM
Worked out great. More human trafficking arrests in 2017 than any other year in history.

Seth Rich case is still unsolved so who put the hit on him still TBD.

So you were wrong. Again.

Pavlov
01-10-2018, 01:44 PM
Worked out great. More human trafficking arrests in 2017 than any other year in history.:lmao

That's not what you were on about.

Why do you lie so much, TSA?

TSA
01-10-2018, 01:45 PM
It's what you're doing, TSA. Too bad for you.


It's just another wall of text. I already dealt with operation Condor and its likelys. You melted down over it.

You did the same with pizzagate and told us all to get ready for that too.

lol

You didn’t offer a single rebuttal to the article. You were called out and admitted your false claim of it being full of likelys.

The details and facts scare you so I understand why you don’t want to discuss those, so let’s sddress the 6 likelys you found. Post them here and we’ll discuss.

Pavlov
01-10-2018, 01:45 PM
You didn’t offer a single rebuttal to the article. You were called out and admitted your false claim of it being full of likelys. It is full of likelys.

And again -- I am completely fine with any investigation. They just never turn out the way you want them to.

Which is hilarious.

TSA
01-10-2018, 01:46 PM
So you were wrong. Again.

Half of this thread is you being wrong :rollin

TSA
01-10-2018, 01:47 PM
It is full of likelys.

Six likelys in an article that long is not an article full of likelys. Agree to disagree.

Post up the 6 likelys you took issue with and let’s address them.

Pavlov
01-10-2018, 01:48 PM
Six likelys in an article that long is not an article full of likelys. Agree to disagree.

Post up the 6 likelys you took issue with and let’s address them.Don't have to. My point was it's full of likelys and those are the kinds of things you always take as gospel.

Like pizzagate.

lol

djohn2oo8
01-10-2018, 01:48 PM
Half of this thread is you being wrong :rollin

Really? You said no FISA warrants. You said neither Manafort nor Flynn would be indicted. You said Susan Rice would be the only one indicted. You said Obama wiretapped Trump. Only to find out a president cannot do that. You said Hillary had Seth Rich murdered. All of it wrong.

TSA
01-10-2018, 01:56 PM
Don't have to. My point was it's full of likelys and those are the kinds of things you always take as gospel.

Like pizzagate.

lol

You are being such a chickshit.

Reck
01-10-2018, 01:56 PM
You did the same with pizzagate and told us all to get ready for that too.



Remember that 12PM boom? That was a good one.

TSA is a good soldier that keeps being let down by his 4chan comrades.

djohn2oo8
01-10-2018, 01:57 PM
Remember that 12PM boom? That was a good one.

TSA is a good soldier that keeps being let down by his 4chan comrades.

:lol

Pavlov
01-10-2018, 01:58 PM
You are being such a chickshit.Just save us all some time and give us your predictions.

Or do you not do those anymore after pizzagate?

lol

Pavlov
01-10-2018, 01:59 PM
Remember that 12PM boom? That was a good one.

TSA is a good soldier that keeps being let down by his 4chan comrades.REMEMBER REMEMBER NOON BOOM DEFOO

boutons_deux
01-10-2018, 02:00 PM
Mystery death of ex-KGB chief linked to MI6 spy's dossier on Donald Trump

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2017/01/27/steele1_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqQ1tFcsyxA8kjPR8E8AJ4wZ5x 6iyaJzFcE4AppPV2uXs.jpg?imwidth=1400

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/27/mystery-death-ex-kgb-chief-linked-mi6-spys-dossier-donald-trump/

TSA
01-10-2018, 02:05 PM
Really? You said no FISA warrants. You said neither Manafort nor Flynn would be indicted. You said Susan Rice would be the only one indicted. You said Obama wiretapped Trump. Only to find out a president cannot do that. You said Hillary had Seth Rich murdered. All of it wrong.

Yes really. You have been wrong more than any other poster in this thread. Compiling all the bullshit you’ve put out in this thread would be a daunting task.

For fucks sake djohn even the title of your thread is completely wrong :lol

TSA
01-10-2018, 02:06 PM
Just save us all some time and give us your predictions.

Or do you not do those anymore after pizzagate?

lol

Are you unable to discuss a topic without asking for predictions?

I’m asking you to discuss what you took issue with in the article, why are you stonewalling?

spurraider21
01-10-2018, 02:07 PM
lol guilty of a felony

Pavlov
01-10-2018, 02:08 PM
Yes really. You have been wrong more than any other poster in this thread. Compiling all the bullshit you’ve put out in this thread would be a daunting task.

For fucks sake djohn even the title of your thread is completely wrong :lolTHE NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER'S BEING FIRED IN DISGRACE AND CONVICTED OF A FEDERAL FELONY IS NOT MAJOR TROUBLE

Pavlov
01-10-2018, 02:10 PM
Are you unable to discuss a topic without asking for predictions?It's what it always comes down to. I can see how you want to stonewall.


I’m asking you to discuss what you took issue with in the article, why are you stonewalling?I'm asking you to cut to the chase. You think everything anonymous blogger says is true -- great. Good for you. Let's go from there. What are you saying will happen after the OIG report comes out?

djohn2oo8
01-10-2018, 02:10 PM
Yes really. You have been wrong more than any other poster in this thread. Compiling all the bullshit you’ve put out in this thread would be a daunting task.

For fucks sake djohn even the title of your thread is completely wrong :lol

You didn't address you claims.

Again

- Hillary did not have Seth Rich murdered
- Your pizzagate theory dead
- Susan Rice not indicted
- Saying Flynn was still a free man but not saying he planned to get caught
- FISA warrants granted

djohn2oo8
01-10-2018, 02:12 PM
Unlawful exoneration :lol

TSA
01-10-2018, 02:15 PM
lol guilty of a felony

:lol process crime
:lol no jail time
:lol $500 fine
:lol major trouble

koriwhat
01-10-2018, 02:17 PM
951115611676999680

you serious? christopher steele a good guy? lmao!

btw, i now know why you got pissy when i said that kyle dude looks like a sissy and reps the far left to a T. he's someone you love and we can see that by the way you post nothing but tweets from the hipster sissy femboy daily. who the fuck is this boyfriend of yours anyhow, credible at all btw?

djohn2oo8
01-10-2018, 02:17 PM
:lol process crime
:lol no jail time
:lol $500 fine
:lol major trouble

:lmao free man
:lmao "planned to get caught"

djohn2oo8
01-10-2018, 02:18 PM
you serious? christopher steele a good guy? lmao!

btw, i now know why you got pissy when i said that kyle dude looks like a sissy and reps the far left to a T. he's someone you love and we can see that by the way you post nothing but tweets from the hipster sissy femboy daily. who the fuck is this boyfriend of yours anyhow, credible at all btw?

You must have let your hair down or something you're posting like a bitch, Koritwat

TSA
01-10-2018, 02:19 PM
It's what it always comes down to. I can see how you want to stonewall.

I'm asking you to cut to the chase. You think everything anonymous blogger says is true -- great. Good for you. Let's go from there. What are you saying will happen after the OIG report comes out?
If you found no faults in the article just say so and move on

:lol begging for predictions

TSA
01-10-2018, 02:22 PM
:lmao free man
:lmao "planned to get caught"

:lol shoplifters getting a harsher punishment

djohn2oo8
01-10-2018, 02:24 PM
:lol shoplifters getting a harsher punishment

You said he wouldn't even get indicted. Now you are saying he planned to get caught :lol

spurraider21
01-10-2018, 02:26 PM
:lol shoplifters getting a harsher punishment
sentencing is one thing. he still guilty of a felony

koriwhat
01-10-2018, 02:26 PM
You must have let your hair down or something you're posting like a bitch, Koritwat

proof is in the pudding darling.... why so pissy after i shit on your sissy?

djohn2oo8
01-10-2018, 02:27 PM
BTW, TSA, lying to the FBI is a felony. Theft can be a misdemeanor.

djohn2oo8
01-10-2018, 02:28 PM
proof is in the pudding darling.... why so pissy after i shit on your sissy?

That's the kind of comeback I'd expect from someone spurs calf tats and mom jeans.

Reck
01-10-2018, 02:28 PM
:lol shoplifters getting a harsher punishment

Papadapolous and Flynn got the bare minimum of what they had coming. They only got slapped with one light charge because they had prime information on Trump. Otherwise, the both of them would be looking at hard time in prison.

I think Flynn got lucky. Mueller is looking the other way about the kidnapping plot. That alone would put him away for life.

TSA
01-10-2018, 02:29 PM
You said he wouldn't even get indicted. Now you are saying he planned to get caught :lol

Flynn is in major trouble for talking to the Russians about sanctions. True or false?

TSA
01-10-2018, 02:30 PM
Papadapolous and Flynn got the bare minimum of what they had coming. They only got slapped with one light charge because they had prime information on Trump. Otherwise, the both of them would be looking at hard time in prison.

I think Flynn got lucky. Mueller is looking the other way about the kidnapping plot. That alone would put him away for life.

:lmao prime information on Trump

Pavlov
01-10-2018, 02:31 PM
If you found no faults in the article just say so and move on

:lol begging for predictionsI found plenty -- but there's no convincing you it's anything less than the word of God, so why bother?

I'm asking you to cut to the chase. You think everything anonymous blogger says is true -- great. Good for you. Let's go from there. What are you saying will happen after the OIG report comes out?

I mean, I can understand why you don't want to give any more concrete predictions since you were so stupidly and utterly wrong before -- but you can't hide your excitement for the OIG report so just tell us what you think is going to happen with it.

djohn2oo8
01-10-2018, 02:31 PM
Papadapolous and Flynn got the bare minimum of what they had coming. They only got slapped with one light charge because they had prime information on Trump. Otherwise, the both of them would be looking at hard time in prison.

I think Flynn got lucky. Mueller is looking the other way about the kidnapping plot. That alone would put him away for life.

Mueller has more charges waiting for Flynn if Trump attempts to pardon.

Reck
01-10-2018, 02:31 PM
Flynn is in major trouble for talking to the Russians about sanctions. True or false?

Yes.

He got caught. Then he made a deal.

The title of the thread goes hand in hand with how Flynn got in trouble.

What was the reason Flynn got charged with perjury?

koriwhat
01-10-2018, 02:33 PM
That's the kind of comeback I'd expect from someone spurs calf tats and mom jeans.

you have nothing little ladyboy. nothing. that's why your responses are so fucking cliche.

djohn2oo8
01-10-2018, 02:34 PM
you have nothing little ladyboy. nothing. that's why your responses are so fucking cliche.

Being a male secretary is different, I'll give you that.

boutons_deux
01-10-2018, 02:36 PM
Dossier Author Steele Cut Off all Contact with FBI once they Appeared to be Protecting Trump (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/1/9/1731244/-Dossier-Author-Steele-Cut-Off-all-Contact-with-FBI-once-they-Appeared-to-be-Protecting-Trump)

we knew already that much of the FBI New York office, what with their close ties to Rudy Giuliani, was in the tank for Trump.

But now we know that Steele and Simpson alerted the FBI about likely Russian blackmail of Trump (and yes, their concern was the pee-pee tape) as far back as JULY of 2016.

So for three effing months, until the dubious New York Times article came out about a week before the election, which said the FBI found no Trump connection to Russia,

Steele and Simpson were trying to sound the alarm to U.S. Law Enforcement, and they got crickets.

The FBI has a lot of explaining to do.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/1/9/1731244/-Dossier-Author-Steele-Cut-Off-all-Contact-with-FBI-once-they-Appeared-to-be-Protecting-Trump?detail=emaildkre

koriwhat
01-10-2018, 02:36 PM
Being a male secretary is different, I'll give you that.

male small business owner but keep on truckin ladyboy

RandomGuy
01-10-2018, 02:37 PM
Flynn is in major trouble for talking to the Russians about sanctions. True or false?

True. Leniency was granted in return for cooperation. Getting caught up in this thing as a witness for the prosecution seems like "major trouble" by any reasonable definition.

djohn2oo8
01-10-2018, 02:37 PM
male small business owner but keep on truckin ladyboy

Male secretary.

RandomGuy
01-10-2018, 02:38 PM
Yes.

He got caught. Then he made a deal.

The title of the thread goes hand in hand with how Flynn got in trouble.

What was the reason Flynn got charged with perjury?

Not perjury, that is something different, and more specific to my understanding. "Lying to the FBI" is more accurate.

koriwhat
01-10-2018, 02:40 PM
Male secretary.

nothing of substance to add... got it! :tu

Pavlov
01-10-2018, 02:40 PM
:lol the level of denial TSA is in right now.

TSA
01-10-2018, 02:48 PM
I found plenty -- but there's no convincing you it's anything less than the word of God, so why bother?


You found plenty? Good, let’s discuss. I’m not asking you to convince me of anything.

Big Dog
01-10-2018, 02:49 PM
Being a male secretary is different, I'll give you that.


Male secretary.
:lol you of all people talking shit about someone being a male secretary
:lol you literally live by your fucking computer at work shitposting for a living
:lol fucking parasitic loser

TSA
01-10-2018, 02:49 PM
True. Leniency was granted in return for cooperation. Getting caught up in this thing as a witness for the prosecution seems like "major trouble" by any reasonable definition.

Flynn got in trouble for talking to Russia about sanctions?

TSA
01-10-2018, 02:52 PM
:lol the level of denial TSA is in right now.

Quite the opposite actually. I’m fully aware of what is happening and was has been happening. You and a select few here are the ones in full denial. I’m thoroughly enjoying The Unraveling

Pavlov
01-10-2018, 02:54 PM
You found plenty? Good, let’s discuss. I’m not asking you to convince me of anything.Of course you are. I want to cut to the chase and you want to litigate sundance's movie comparisons.

No dice.

You've posted anonymous blog three times now so you believe it without reservation.

Let's discuss the OIG report -- which is what you say you actually care about here.

What are you saying will happen after the OIG report comes out?

Pavlov
01-10-2018, 02:55 PM
Quite the opposite actually. I’m fully aware of what is happening and was has been happening. You and a select few here are the ones in full denial. I’m thoroughly enjoying The UnravelingSo much so you are terrified of making a prediction about the OIG report and want to discuss muh sundance.

:lmao

Tell us what is happening.

Tell us what has been happening.

You won't.

djohn2oo8
01-10-2018, 03:00 PM
:lol you of all people talking shit about someone being a male secretary
:lol you literally live by your fucking computer at work shitposting for a living
:lol fucking parasitic loser

Haven't seen you since Durant left. How are you coping?

spurraider21
01-10-2018, 03:03 PM
So much so you are terrified of making a prediction about the OIG report and want to discuss muh sundance.

:lmao

Tell us what is happening.

Tell us what has been happening.

You won't.
the OIG will catch onto stable genius Trump's master plan to have Flynn intentionally commit a felony and to have the FISC judge grant a warrant silly nilly

Pavlov
01-10-2018, 03:07 PM
I mean, I made my predictions a long time ago and they really haven't changed. I never got as specific as saying Hillary Clinton going to prison but that's because it's stupid.

Trill Clinton
01-10-2018, 03:09 PM
SpursforSix, what are your thoughts on all of this?