Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

[Pavlov]

Fake Russian love fake Russia news.Darrin love Russia.

[DarrinS]

CNN love Russia.

fify

[Pavlov]

fifyNo, it's you. Never one bad thing to say about Russia or Putin. Mother Russia thanks to you.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Podesta testified in closed hearing yesterday. I guess it was too embarrassing to admit publicly that he was duped by a phish email, a.k.a. the high-tech Russian cyber attack.

Darrin's dumb ass seems to struggle with the notion of security clearance and classified material which is funny because of how much effort he put into the ideas in last year.

I suppose that is the same reason why he is supposedly an engineer but cannot recall any of the things he would have had to learn in school to get an engineering degree.

[boutons_deux]

Surprise! Trump’s Lawyers Indefinitely Postpone Comey ‘Leak’ Complaint

President Donald Trump’s outside legal team is acknowledging that it pressed pause on stated plans to file a complaint against former FBI director James Comey for allegedly sharing the content of “privileged conversations” with the press.

“The filings will go forward at the appropriate time in the future,” a person with knowledge of the legal team’s plans told TPM on Wednesday.

The day after Comey’s testimony, Trump’s team publicized plans to file a complaint with the Justice Department about his actions. Legal observers said it was unlikely that Comey sharing unclassified information with the media as a private citizen qualified as leaking.

For the moment, per the individual close to Trump’s legal team, the President is taking a step back.

As TPM previously reported (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/trump-legal-team-delays-plan-file-complaint-against-comey-leaking), his outside lawyers kicked the bucket for almost two weeks after initially announcing that they intended to lodge a complaint against Comey, until conceding Wednesday that it actually would not be filed any time in the near future.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/trump-legal-team-indefinitely-postpones-comey-leak-complaint?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20tpm-news%20%28TPMNews%29

so it's huff and puff and bluff and fake badass hardon, then they go flaccid, just like the Repug Senate failing to convict Clinton.

[DarrinS]

Darrin's dumb ass seems to struggle with the notion of security clearance and classified material which is funny because of how much effort he put into the ideas in last year.

I suppose that is the same reason why he is supposedly an engineer but cannot recall any of the things he would have had to learn in school to get an engineering degree.


Feel better? :lmao

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Feel better? :lmao

I feel great. I am interested in how you can parrot Kellyanne Conway's talking points for a particular day and think and think that you do not support Trump.

At this point I wonder if it is intentional, pathological, or something else. Pandering comes naturally to you.

[DarrinS]

Darrin's dumb ass seems to struggle with the notion of security clearance and classified material which is funny because of how much effort he put into the ideas in last year.

I suppose that is the same reason why he is supposedly an engineer but cannot recall any of the things he would have had to learn in school to get an engineering degree.


Your infantile lashing out at others is very Trump-like, tbh.

And why are you obsessed with my engineering degree?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Your infantile lashing out at others is very Trump-like, tbh.

And why are you obsessed with my engineering degree?

Obsessed? I have seen nothing from you that indicates you really have one. People generally pay attention to deception.

And infantile? I back up everything that I say with cause as opposed to incoherent rambling. For example when discussing Mann's climate models I tried discussing the cancellations in his PDEs with you and you changed the subject and dodged like Kellyanne when asked a question she doesn't have an answer for. There have been other instances but that was the first so it stands out to me most.

Trump calls something a disaster or some other aspersion and calls it a day. I back what I say with real examples so others can judge for themselves.

And you are once again trying to change the subject. You literally parrot the talking points Kellyanne Conway comes with on a day by day basis. For example, this week she has been going on and on about how there is no evidence of collusion and you have been parroting right along. You have no credibility and even Thread has more integrity than you do.

[DarrinS]

Obsessed? I have seen nothing from you that indicates you really have one. People generally pay attention to deception.


You don't have to believe I have one. It's not like they're that difficult to get. You are right about one thing though -- I have forgotten a lot of material that I don't use on a regular basis. But, I suspect that is the case with most people, unless they work in academia.



And infantile? I back up everything that I say with cause as opposed to incoherent rambling. For example when discussing Mann's climate models I tried discussing the cancellations in his PDEs with you and you changed the subject and dodged like Kellyanne when asked a question she doesn't have an answer for. There have been other instances but that was the first so it stands out to me most.


Nah, I just ignore your incoherent ramblings about shitty climate models.




Trump calls something a disaster or some other aspersion and calls it a day. I back what I say with real examples so others can judge for themselves.

And you are once again trying to change the subject. You literally parrot the talking points Kellyanne Conway comes with on a day by day basis. For example, this week she has been going on and on about how there is no evidence of collusion and you have been parroting right along. You have no credibility and even Thread has more integrity than you do.



Wow, two Kellyanne references in one post. Congrats.

So, if you back up everything you assert with real examples, perhaps you can point me to the real evidence of collusion.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You don't have to believe I have one. It's not like they're that difficult to get. You are right about one thing though -- I have forgotten a lot of material that I don't use on a regular basis. But, I suspect that is the case with most people, unless they work in academia.



Nah, I just ignore your incoherent ramblings about shitty climate models.





Wow, two Kellyanne references in one post. Congrats.

So, if you back up everything you assert with real examples, perhaps you can point me to the real evidence of collusion.

Uh oh he's breaking it up into line by line.

The argument started with you claiming that Mann's models were flawed. So I looked up Mann's models and discussed with you how they were formulated. Then I found the portion that your WUWT article was taking issue with. It was where he modeled thermodynamic flux between ocean layers.

I showed where the constant cancelled out the variable and how the technique was valid. I then compared it to the complaint in your article. You wouldn't discuss it at all other to repeat the conclusion of your article.

It's very similar to what you do now when I point out to you that direct collusion between Trump and Russia is besides the point now given the obstruction and the hot water his deputies are in. When you don't know what to say you just repeat your original premise like an idiot.

Anywho, you had read an article that discussed the formula and then read Mann's step by step work in his paper. I can get not remembering something. I do not get complete ignorance that you displayed. I haven't messed with thermo in a decade and while I am confident that my memory is superior to yours that does not explain your complete inability to even discuss the topic.

[DarrinS]

Uh oh he's breaking it up into line by line.

The argument started with you claiming that Mann's models were flawed. So I looked up Mann's models and discussed with you how they were formulated. Then I found the portion that your WUWT article was taking issue with. It was where he modeled thermodynamic flux between ocean layers.

I showed where the constant cancelled out the variable and how the technique was valid. I then compared it to the complaint in your article. You wouldn't discuss it at all other to repeat the conclusion of your article.

Anywho, you had read an article that discussed the formula and then read Mann's step by step work in his paper. I can get not remembering something. I do not get complete ignorance that you displayed. I haven't messed with thermo in a decade and while I am confident that my memory is superior to yours that does not explain your complete inability to even discuss the topic.



Yeah, I still don't care about this.





It's very similar to what you do now when I point out to you that direct collusion between Trump and Russia is besides the point now given the obstruction and the hot water his deputies are in. When you don't know what to say you just repeat your original premise like an idiot.




Where's the evidence of direct collusion?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Yeah, I still don't care about this.





Where's the evidence of direct collusion?

I get that you don't care. I'm speaking to your credibility to anyone else who reads you.

You already know with Manafort, Sessions, Flynn, and Kushner. And again with trump it is about obstruction and not collusion given what we know. OTOH, there is still an ongoing investigation.

Here is Kellyanne today:

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Sounds just like you read.

[spurraider21]

:lol people were interfering with our democracy by saying trump wouldn't win?

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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#ManfortFlippedSecond

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[Thread]

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Finally got 'em back from Comey's forensic contacts in the F.B.I. making sure they aged the ink/lead to a T.

"I showed up with an open mind and some trepidation. Immediately he (President Trump) caught my eye and I believe he winked. I won't swear to that if it comes to it, but, I'm 98%+ positive, like we that much positive Hillary would mop the floor with Trump's rather prodigious rump. Anyway, he immediately asked everyone to leave. I got up and started to leave with the others. "Not you, dum-dum."

"Yes, sir, Mr. Trump." I sat back down. I had no intention of calling him by his Presidential moniker. No way.

"Can you let it go?"

"What?"

"You know what?"

"No, I don't know what."

He winked again. I felt very uncomfortable and passed some most prodigious gas.

"Damn your, ass, Jim."

I believe I'm being very candid now. I hope everyone believes me and doesn't think I wrote this memo ad hoc while I was sitting in the shitter afterward.

Signed,

F.B.I. Director James Comey

[pgardn]

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The Europeans are going with sanctions.
The real question now is will we follow their lead or allow them the Russians to tamper.

The collusion stuff was too difficult to be believable as I noted way back in this thread way back. This would be the best way to direct the thread along with financial dealings and possible obstruction of justice of others in the campaign. I doubt you will get the Cheeto on anything other than some financial rules. He might pay a fine.

[boutons_deux]

Senate Intelligence Committee will get Comey memos detailing possible obstruction of justice by Trump:

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/senate-intelligence-committee-will-get-comey-memos-detailing-possible-obstruction-of-justice-by-trump-report/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[djohn2oo8]

CROFL Tillerson losing his cool and blowing up at niggas in the WH

[djohn2oo8]

880217511245099009
lol

[djohn2oo8]

CROFL Grassley and Graham shitting themselves.

[baseline bum]

CROFL Grassley and Graham shitting themselves.

?

[RandomGuy]

You don't have to believe I have one. It's not like they're that difficult to get. You are right about one thing though -- I have forgotten a lot of material that I don't use on a regular basis. But, I suspect that is the case with most people, unless they work in academia.



Nah, I just ignore your incoherent ramblings about shitty climate models.





Wow, two Kellyanne references in one post. Congrats.

So, if you back up everything you assert with real examples, perhaps you can point me to the real evidence of collusion.

Holy crap. This may be the most effort I have seen you put into a post in years.

[RandomGuy]

The Europeans are going with sanctions.
The real question now is will we follow their lead or allow them the Russians to tamper.

The collusion stuff was too difficult to be believable as I noted way back in this thread way back. This would be the best way to direct the thread along with financial dealings and possible obstruction of justice of others in the campaign. I doubt you will get the Cheeto on anything other than some financial rules. He might pay a fine.

I am very interested in what he will do. You may give it short shrift, but it is a testable theory, that can make a prediction.

The prediction is that he will do nothing, or as close to nothing as he can. He consistently deals harshly, especially rhetorically, with just about every country but Russia.


Predicting what Trump will, or won't do is sort of a mugs game, for the most part.

The thing about a good theory though, it that it both explains facts, and you can make testable predictions.

Fact 1:
Russia attempted to hack our electoral process through a multi-pronged attack.

Fact 2:
Donald "look how big my inauguration crowd was" Trump has done nothing but deny this even happened. He has shown no willingness whatsoever to hold Russia to account for anything.

Fact 3:
Donald Trump has a pattern of criticizing anyone, and everyone at the drop of a hat. Allies, enemies, courts, free press, nothing has escaped his remarks and twitter feed, except for ONE/(two) thing(s), and that is Russia/Putin

Fact 4:
Russian efforts appeared designed to support Trump

Fact 5:
Trump directly called on Russia publicly to support his efforts to get elected.

Theory:
Donald Trump has been compromised in some way. Either he directly owes them money, or they have evidence of some kind of him breaking the law or doing something he does not want others to know about.

This theory explains those facts, and is fully consistent with observed reality.

Prediction:
Donald Trump will take no action personally, nor will he criticize Russia or Putin in any way in regards to the Russian attack on our elections. He may allow his underlings to do some minor, inconsequential stuff, and if forced to do anything by Congress will drag his feet, if not outright attempt to veto any sanctions.


The way to falsify the theory:
1) Trump criticizes Putin/Russia (good)
2) Trump orders/takes action that materially harms Russian interests (definitive)

Bullshit conspiracy theories fail very often because either: they cannot be falsified, or they directly conflict with observed reality. This theory can be falsified, and does not conflict with what we know as fact.

Donald Trump is unpredictable except for Russia.

I think his past shady business dealings are becoming leverage against him because people with resources and motivation to dig, such as large nation states like China and Russia, are going to come up with things that he would prefer not to be known. This would also explains both his refusal to release his taxes, and his retention of control of his business enterprises. If he cedes too much operational control of those businesses, the possibility of some of those financial records getting out goes up.

[boutons_deux]

Trump’s longtime bodyguard Keith Schiller a new target in Russia investigation


http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/trumps-longtime-bodyguard-keith-schiller-a-new-target-in-russia-investigation/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[boutons_deux]

Republicans are risking becoming the party of Putin

https://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2017/06/23/Foreign/Images/AP_8989102521351498177081.jpg

http://www.weirduniverse.net/images/2016/1970guards.jpg Disgraced Repug version :lol

Whether its leaders and members realize it, the Republican Party is at risk of becoming the Vladimir Putin-aligned party in the United States.

It can be convincingly argued that it’s already similar to Putin-supported parties in Europe, given Donald Trump’s presidency,

the Republican base’s increasingly favorable views of Moscow and the House GOP leadership’s disinterest in investigating and preventing Russian interference.

Increasingly sophisticated Russian influence and cyberoperations threaten Americans’ ability to choose their own leaders.

This isn’t hyperbole; in fact, it’s hard to overstate just how serious this issue is. Yet

President Trump continues to sow doubt about whether Moscow even interfered in the 2016 presidential elections and to suggest the question’s insignificance by ignoring it all together.

Our commander in chief seems more interested in protecting Moscow than he does in deterring its future attacks.

There are also reports (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/06/22/senate-prepares-to-redo-iran-and-russia-sanctions-bill-but-house-action-remains-uncertain/?utm_term=.3e7603becf21) that the White House plans to step up lobbying efforts against a new Russia sanctions bill that the Senate passed with overwhelming bipartisan support (https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/722/actions) this month.

Worse, Trump appears to have some support in this from Republican leaders in the House. Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) and Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) have delayed the bill, (http://time.com/4831779/house-russia-iran-sanctions-bill/) citing the constitutional requirement that such bills originate in the House.

Ryan and McCarthy appear to be more interested in delaying and weakening the bill.

49 percent of Republican voters consider Russia to be either an ally or friendly. Only 12 percent consider it an enemy.

In 2015, only 12 percent of Republicans held a favorable view of Russian President Vladimir Putin,

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/republicans-are-risking-becoming-the-party-of-putin/2017/06/28/78e8e1ee-5c24-11e7-9fc6-c7ef4bc58d13_story.html?utm_term=.207ceb687f6e

You Repugs are such gullible sheeple, sucking down whatever the fuck Trash and Repugs tell you to suck down

[AaronY]

:sleep

[boutons_deux]

34 Members Of Congress Just Demanded Investigation Into Trump’s Attorney General

After being stonewalled by the Justice Department, all 34 of the Democrats on the House Judiciary and Oversight committees today sent a letter (http://www.businessinsider.com/34-house-democrats-ask-department-of-justice-to-investigate-sessions-2017-6) to DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz demanding action.

They want Horowitz to investigate Attorney General (https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/house-democrats-want-inspector-general-to-probe-whether-sessions-violated-recusal/2017/06/29/6ffc0164-5cf2-11e7-a9f6-7c3296387341_story.html?utm_term=.e097a3569959) Jeff Sessions for violating his promises to recuse himself (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2017/05/11/jeff-sessions-is-in-deep-trouble-and-heres-why/?utm_term=.5d362c0c129a)from probes into Russian interference in the 2016 election and any involvement by President Trump and his campaign in colluding with Russia or covering it up.

“Since the Department has failed to respond to multiple previous inquiries on this matter – despite promising to do so – we now ask that your office investigate and report back to us with any findings and recommendations you determine are warranted,” said the letter.


In particular, the lawmakers want to know if Sessions violated DOJ protocol by being part of the decision to fire FBI Director James Comey.


“Regardless of which reason is true – that the President fired FBI Director Comedy because of his investigation into the Clinton campaign or his investigation into the Trump campaign – both matters were supposed to be off limits for the Attorney General,” declared the letter.


Sessions himself has told different stories while claiming he did not violate his recusal. He said one case involved the DOJ and the other the FBI.

However, the Democrats point out, both would be violations of his recusal pledge which was to cover “any existing or future investigations” into the presidential campaign.


“The actions of Attorney General Sessions,” says the letter, “in collaborating directly with President Trump to fire Director Comedy reflect a lapse in judgement by our nation’s top law enforecement official and appear to violate multiple promises made by the Attorney General and his aides.”


http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/06/29/34-members-congress-just-demanded-investigation-trumps-attorney-general/

Repugs will try to block the investigations(s)

[boutons_deux]

McMaster: Trump to meet with Putin at the G-20 summit
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President Trump will hold his first meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin next week on the sidelines of the Group of 20 summit in Hamburg, White House officials said Thursday.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/06/29/mcmaster-trump-to-meet-with-putin-at-the-g-20-summit/?utm_term=.f52b4e5deda0

Vlad gonna bring some golden shower whores and quality coke for BFF Trash?

[Pavlov]

Looking forward to everything Putin will take from sad fatty Trump.

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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#Flynn flipped

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Well now we have a tie from Russian hackers directly to the GOP. How deep does this rabbit hole go?

[TSA]

880538686349246465

Trying to compile his own Steele dossier on Clinton. FBI is obviously cool with dossiers and will sometimes even pay for them. Gotta get dem FISA warrants

[TSA]

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Actual wsj title

GOP Operative Sought Clinton Emails From Hackers, Implied a Connection to Flynn

[Pavlov]

Actual wsj title

GOP Operative Sought Clinton Emails From Hackers, Implied a Connection to FlynnSuper big difference from pinko Journal.

[djohn2oo8]

Well now we have a tie from Russian hackers directly to the GOP. How deep does this rabbit hole go?

Deep. Trump's meltdown will be epic. Lordy.

[djohn2oo8]

Actual wsj title

GOP Operative Sought Clinton Emails From Hackers, Implied a Connection to Flynn

Why were Russian hackers heard discussing how to transmit those emails to Flynn???

[boutons_deux]

GOP Rep admits Russia probe ‘has legs’: ‘There is justification to continue the investigation’


http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/gop-rep-admits-russia-probe-has-legs-there-is-justification-to-continue-the-investigation/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[boutons_deux]

White House Just Revealed The Humiliating Way Trump Is Prepping For Putin Meeting

Ahead of Trump’s planned meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin at next week’s G20 summit in Germany, the President has reportedly (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/29/white-house-sanctions-first-trump-putin-meeting)

told National Security Council staff to come up with “deliverables” to offer to his Russian counterpart.

Among these concessions would likely be the return of the two Russian diplomatic compounds in Maryland and New York that were ordered evacuated (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/29/barack-obama-sanctions-russia-election-hack)by the Obama administration following Russia’s interference in the 2016 election.

According to The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/29/white-house-sanctions-first-trump-putin-meeting):


There is strong resistance in the NSC and state department to one-sided concessions aimed simply at improving the tone of US-Russian relations.

There is also opposition within the administration to Trump’s preference for a formal bilateral meeting with Putin at the G20 summit in Germany,

as first reported (https://apnews.com/a39de0185d6844bfb0c4009b22791252) by the Associated Press.


Given the fact that Russia not only has nothing to offer the United States, but is also the subject of an ongoing probe in the United States for attacking the foundation of our democracy, perhaps amassing a list of concessions that benefit only this hostile foreign power should not be our National Security Council’s priority at the moment.

“They have been asked for deliverables, but

there is resistance to offering anything up without anything back in return,”

said one former official familiar with the matter.


The Senate has pushed back against Trump’s cozy relationship with Moscow by passing legislation (http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/340129-senate-passes-deal-on-tougher-russia-sanctions) to codify sanctions against Russia. The bill has since gone to the House of Representatives from the Senate with unanimous consent. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) warned lawmakers in the House against trying to soften the bill.

“It’s critical, critical that Congress speak in a loud, clear and unified voice to [Russian] President [Vladimir] Putin. I want to put the House on notice. If they water-down this bill, weaken the sanctions, add loopholes to the legislation, they will find stiff resistance here in the Senate.”


Despite resistance from Congress, the American people, and even his own staff, the fact that Trump is still willing to kowtow to Russia is a clear indication of where his priorities lie.

terrible optics for a White House that seems to be making little to no effort to distance itself from the foreign adversary

http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/06/29/white-house-just-revealed-chilling-way-trump-prepping-putin-meeting/ (http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/06/29/white-house-just-revealed-chilling-way-trump-prepping-putin-meeting/)

[spurraider21]

he should take a reset button

[DarrinS]

That story about that guy trying to get Clinton emails and who claimed to know Flynn is riveting. Conveniently dead.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

DarrinS semen shielding on cue reflexively but of course he doesn't even like Trump.

[djohn2oo8]

That story about that guy trying to get Clinton emails and who claimed to know Flynn is riveting. Conveniently dead.

Those investigators have examined reports from intelligence agencies that describe Russian hackers discussing how to obtain emails from Mrs. Clinton’s server and then transmit them to Mr. Flynn via an intermediary, according to U.S. officials with knowledge of the intelligence.

[clambake]

they got you pegged, darrin.

[DarrinS]

Those investigators have examined reports from intelligence agencies that describe Russian hackers discussing how to obtain emails from Mrs. Clinton’s server and then transmit them to Mr. Flynn via an intermediary, according to U.S. officials with knowledge of the intelligence.


Ok

[Pavlov]

That story about that guy trying to get Clinton emails and who claimed to know Flynn is riveting. Conveniently dead.Hillary strike again!

[DarrinS]

Let me see if I understand the best (so far) case of collusion with Russia

1. Some 81 year old man was trying to get Hillary emails from hackers
2. He allegedly knew Flynn and/or Flynn's son
3. He's now dead
4. Said emails were never hacked or released (hard to release, when not hacked)
5. In dream scenario, Flynn convicted of something
6. Trump still POTUS

Am I missing anything?

[clambake]

Let me see if I understand the best (so far) case of collusion with Russia

1. Some 81 year old man was trying to get Hillary emails from hackers
2. He allegedly knew Flynn and/or Flynn's son
3. He's now dead
4. Said emails were never hacked or released (hard to release, when not hacked)
5. In dream scenario, Flynn convicted of something
6. Trump still POTUS

Am I missing anything?

yes. that they got you pegged.

[DarrinS]

yes. that they got you pegged.

*roasted*

[Pavlov]

https://media.giphy.com/media/bVVuYSEudBI5O/giphy.gif

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Let me see if I understand the best (so far) case of collusion with Russia

1. Some 81 year old man was trying to get Hillary emails from hackers
2. He allegedly knew Flynn and/or Flynn's son
3. He's now dead
4. Said emails were never hacked or released (hard to release, when not hacked)
5. In dream scenario, Flynn convicted of something
6. Trump still POTUS

Am I missing anything?


In the interview with the Journal, Mr. Smith said he and his colleagues found five groups of hackers who claimed to possess Mrs. Clinton’s deleted emails, including two groups he determined were Russians.

“We knew the people who had these were probably around the Russian government,” Mr. Smith said.

...................

Mr. Smith and one of his associates said they had a line of communication with Mr. Flynn and his consulting company.

In one Smith email reviewed by the Journal, intended to entice outside experts to join his work, he offered to make introductions to Mr. Flynn’s son, Michael G. Flynn, who worked as chief of staff in his father’s company. Mr. Smith’s email mentioned the son among a small number of other people he said were helping.

Michael G. Flynn didn’t respond to a request for comment.

In another recruiting email seen by the Journal, Jonathan Safron, a law student Mr. Smith described as a close colleague, included links to the websites and LinkedIn profiles of people purportedly working with the Smith team. At the top of the list was the name and website of Flynn Intel, which Mr. Flynn set up after his 2014 firing as director of the Defense Intelligence Agency.

Mr. Safron declined to comment on his email or Mr. Smith’s project.

In phone conversations, Mr. Smith told a computer expert he was in direct contact with Mr. Flynn and his son, according to this expert. The person said an anti-Clinton research document prepared by Mr. Smith’s group identified the younger Mr. Flynn as someone associated with the effort. The expert said that based on his conversations with Mr. Smith, he understood the elder Mr. Flynn to be coordinating with Mr. Smith’s group in his capacity as a Trump campaign adviser.

The senior Mr. Flynn was fired as national-security adviser in February after misleading administration officials about his conversations with the Russian ambassador concerning sanctions. Those conversations put Mr. Flynn under scrutiny by the FBI and then the special counsel, according to U.S. officials.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/gop-operative-sought-clinton-emails-from-hackers-implied-a-connection-to-flynn-1498770851?mod=e2tw

You are not a reliable source for this and no one should ever rely on your retellings and recollections.

I like how you try to down play Smith because he was old as if he had not been an active GOP actor for 4 decades. And you also left out the part where Flynn, Manafort, Sessions, and Kushner lied in disclosure forms and interviews about payments and meeting with Russia and Russian state agencies as well as Trump's multiple instances of obstruction of the investigation.

But I guess this is what it is going to be: you semen shielding every revelation, pretending that instance is the only semen you've swallowed, pretending that there is not an ongoing investigation, and then pretending that you don't support Trump. I bet you even continue to claim there is no evidence of collusion.

[DarrinS]

^meh, I've already said in another thread that Trump should resign.

Collusion theory still bullshit.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

^meh, I've already said in another thread that Trump should resign.

Collusion theory still bullshit.

What was bullshit was your restating what the article said as evidence of collusion.

That is what you do. Make one platitude in an assertion that you think makes you seem objective and then make every argument in opposition to that stance and pay nothing but lip service in support.

It is just like when you said you used to believe in AGW and shit like that. You are a pandering, sophist, lying sack of shit. Been consistent with it for a decade too.

[Chris]

McCabe took 6 million dollars from the Clintons for his wife to run for office. Comey was bought off also.

[Pavlov]

McCabe took 6 million dollars from the Clintons for his wife to run for office. Comey was bought off also.You have link for these?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

McCabe took 6 million dollars from the Clintons for his wife to run for office. Comey was bought off also.

No she took money from the VA governor who they are labeling an ally of Clinton.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/29/chuck-grassley-andrew-mccabe-fbi-conflicts-240089


Grassley noted that the Justice Department inspector general is investigating whether McCabe should have recused himself from the Hillary Clinton email probe, since McCabe’s wife got donations from Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe, a Clinton ally, when she ran for a Virginia state Senate seat.

Grassley also hit McCabe over a gender-discrimination complaint filed against the FBI. The senator said Flynn filed a letter of support for the FBI agent who reported the discrimination.

Youre as bad as TSA and Darrin are rehashing articles and news.

[TSA]

The corrections keep on coming. How many thousand times did they quote this 17 agency bullshit :rollin


Correction: June 29, 2017
A White House Memo article on Monday about President Trump’s deflections and denials about Russia referred incorrectly to the source of an intelligence assessment that said Russia orchestrated hacking attacks during last year’s presidential election. The assessment was made by four intelligence agencies — the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the Central Intelligence Agency, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the National Security Agency. The assessment was not approved by all 17 organizations in the American intelligence community.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/25/us/politics/trumps-deflections-and-denials-on-russia-frustrate-even-his-allies.html?referer=https://t.co/Z2Pm19X9rQ

[Adam Lambert]

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[DarrinS]

What was bullshit was your restating what the article said as evidence of collusion.

That is what you do. Make one platitude in an assertion that you think makes you seem objective and then make every argument in opposition to that stance and pay nothing but lip service in support.

It is just like when you said you used to believe in AGW and shit like that. You are a pandering, sophist, lying sack of shit. Been consistent with it for a decade too.

:cry the feels :cry

[Thread]

The corrections keep on coming. How many thousand times did they quote this 17 agency bullshit :rollin


Correction: June 29, 2017
A White House Memo article on Monday about President Trump’s deflections and denials about Russia referred incorrectly to the source of an intelligence assessment that said Russia orchestrated hacking attacks during last year’s presidential election. The assessment was made by four intelligence agencies — the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the Central Intelligence Agency, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the National Security Agency. The assessment was not approved by all 17 organizations in the American intelligence community.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/25/us/politics/trumps-deflections-and-denials-on-russia-frustrate-even-his-allies.html?referer=https://t.co/Z2Pm19X9rQ

Whoops.

[Reck]

So basically the article is still correct. Instead of all 17 agencies, it was only 4.

LOL big whoops.

[Chris]

Yup, everyone and their dog was using the 17 agencies thingy when the Russian nonsense started. It was their ace on the hole. God, it never gets old winning.

[Pavlov]

Hah! Chris think he winning.

[SnakeBoy]

No she took money from the VA governor who they are labeling an ally of Clinton.


lol Terry McAuliffe being "labeled" an ally of Clinton.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

lol Terry McAuliffe being "labeled" an ally of Clinton.

Have any proof that the money was given on her behalf or you just going to fixate on semantics and pretend like it is relevant.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Yup, everyone and their dog was using the 17 agencies thingy when the Russian nonsense started. It was their ace on the hole. God, it never gets old winning.

:lol yeah it's only the NSA, CIA, FBI, and the Directorate of National Intelligence. What do they know?

Do you have any US intelligence agency that disputes it? Forest, tree, that whole thing.

What never gets old for me is laughing at people that act like they have accomplished something over a point of fact that makes no substantive difference to the issue at hand. Even you boy Trump admits that it happened now. He just deflects to Obama. Try and keep up.

[Reck]

Yup, everyone and their dog was using the 17 agencies thingy when the Russian nonsense started. It was their ace on the hole. God, it never gets old winning.

What exactly do you call winning?

Being a shield for all the retarded shit Trump says and does? Must be nice defending all the misogyny stuff. I hear that's so in these days.

[Thread]

What exactly do you call winning?

Being a shield for all the retarded shit Trump says and does? Must be nice defending all the misogyny stuff. I hear that's so in these days.

Aside from his IMPEACHMENT it never seemed to bother Bill Clinton.

[djohn2oo8]

Gonna be fun when Darrin self permaban s himself.

[djohn2oo8]

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lol Darrin lol TSA.

"But but Hillary's emails" :cry

stupid fucks

[djohn2oo8]

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CROFL Trump. That was a hell of a segment just now

[djohn2oo8]

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[Thread]

^^^POTUS says they're chock full of shit, dj:::


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[boutons_deux]

How Trump’s Apparatchiks Are Erasing Russia’s Role in the Election

Evasions, brushoffs, innuendos, contortions, rationalizations, and attacks.

out come the Trump minions to protect their boss. Here’s how they’re trying to shovel the story away.

1. Don’t believe it till the CIA shows you the evidence. “Where is the evidence?” demanded Kellyanne Conway, Trump’s campaign manager, in a Sunday interview on Face the Nation (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/face-the-nation-transcript-conway-kissinger-donilon/). Conway, who is expected to work for Trump inside or outside the White House (http://bigstory.ap.org/article/0e35b955c9c94c7bbdb7f4c0e370db2e/top-trump-aide-forming-group-back-white-house-agenda), dared the CIA to go public: “If Director Brennan and others at the top are serious about turning over evidence to we, the American people, they should do that.” RNC chairman Reince Priebus, Trump’s incoming chief of staff, made the same argument on Fox News Sunday (http://www.foxnews.com/transcript/2016/12/18/reince-priebus-on-war-words-with-white-house-over-russia/): “If there is this conclusive opinion among all of these intelligence agencies, then they should issue a report, or they should stand in front of a camera and make the case.” Priebus challenged the agencies to “be straight with the American people” about “their opinion as to who, what, where, and how this all happened.”

2. It would be treacherous of the CIA to show you the evidence. While demanding public revelation of the “who, what, where, and how,” Priebus rebuked intelligence agencies for talking to the press. To have these assessments “leaked by people within the intelligence community to these newspapers or through some third-party source is not appropriate,” he warned. Conway, in the midst of her plea for transparency, paused to scold the agencies: “They’re talking to the media. That undermines our national security, our intelligence operations.”

3. Trump might have secret evidence that Russia is innocent. On Face the Nation, John Dickerson asked Conway whether Trump had evidence that Russia wasn’t behind the hack. She offered an ambiguous reply: “Well, the president-elect receives intelligence briefings that I am not privy to.”

4. Allegations against Russia are just a ploy by Democrats to change the subject. Speaking to Fox News on Friday, Spicer was asked about President Obama’s discussion of the Russia hack in a news conference earlier that day. Spicer said Democrats were trying to “deflect from what they brought to themselves (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3tm2TACpkY).”

5. Let’s change the subject to Democrats losing. Spicer’s “deflection” shtick is just one way to deflect questions about Russia. Another way is to pivot to “the real question.” On Fox News Sunday, Chris Wallace asked Priebus, “Does the president-elect accept the consensus of the intel community?” Priebus answered:


The real question is why the Democrats and why these electors and why MoveOn.org and all of these organizations are doing everything they can to delegitimize the outcome of the election. … They lost the election because they’re so completely out of touch with the American people that they’re so shell-shocked and they can’t believe it. And what is their response? Recounts, Russians, leaked CIA reports …



6. Obama’s call to punish Russia is just another Democratic stunt. Dickerson asked Conway about Obama’s “decision to retaliate against the Russians for hacking into the election.” She replied: “It does seem to be a political response at this point, because it seems like the president is under pressure from Team Hillary, who can’t accept the election results.” Dickerson, taken aback, asked her whether she was dismissing the retaliation as political. Conway implied that it was: “President Obama could have, quote, retaliated months ago if they were actually concerned about this and concerned about this, quote, affecting the election. Whatever his motives are, what his action is, we’ll respect it as Americans.”

7. Democrats are confusing distinct questions. “They’re conflating whether Russia hacked into the emails [with] how it affected the election,” Conway told Dickerson. Spicer, in several interviews, offered the same complaint: that Democrats and the media were “conflating” whether Russia and other entities regularly probed for security flaws, whether Russia had found any in this case, and whether the hacks had affected the election.

8. Here, let me confuse you. While lecturing viewers about conflation, Spicer uses it to muddy inconvenient questions. Presented with reports that Russia hacked Democrats, he says they’re bogus because there’s no proof that the election’s outcome was changed (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5dIKQF9FWk). Presented with intelligence agencies’ conclusions about the hacks, he dismisses them by saying the agencies claimed voting machines weren’t compromised (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TreBy9BWXLw). On Friday, Spicer was asked about the agencies’ assessment that “Russia interfered in the election.” He brushed the story off: “This wouldn’t have happened if Hillary Clinton didn’t have a secret server (https://www.c-span.org/video/?420243-1/sean-spicer-discusses-presidential-transition).”

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/12/how_trump_s_apparatchiks_are_erasing_russia_s_role _in_the_election.html

[Spurminator]

880618241281982464
lol Darrin lol TSA.

"But but Hillary's emails" :cry

stupid fucks

Secure email or not, this is pretty fucking chilling.

[boutons_deux]

Secure email or not, this is pretty fucking chilling.

and the collected voter data will be make public

[baseline bum]

880768016224571393

What a sad state of the country that this story isn't the least bit surprising.

[boutons_deux]

What a sad state of the country that this story isn't the least bit surprising.

With Repugs (even withoug Trash, but with Pence) the descent will continue.

As with the Repug destabilization of the Middle East for BigOil, the damage the Repugs are and will be doing to the bottom 80%, to environment, and tpo America will continue for many years after 2020.

For the Repug whores, it's "Oligarchy Over Country", they are all FUCKING SADISTIC, MURDEROUS TRAITORS

[Spurminator]

Sad for many reasons, not the least of which is that a story in the National Enquirer still serves as a credible threat.

[Reck]

What a sad state of the country that this story isn't the least bit surprising.

Making Mueller's job easier by the day.

This can be coupled with the obstruction of justice case. The blatant abuse of power this faggot is using is just crazy. Trump is literally too stupid to be a criminal.

[baseline bum]

With Repugs (even withoug Trash, but with Pence) the descent will continue.

As with the Repug destabilization of the Middle East for BigOil, the damage the Repugs are and will be doing to the bottom 80%, to environment, and tpo America will continue for many years after 2020.

For the Repug whores, it's "Oligarchy Over Country", they are all FUCKING SADISTIC, MURDEROUS TRAITORS

I would be floored to hear of Mike Pence blackmailing the media. Or Ted Cruz. Or Paul Ryan. Or Jason Chaffetz. Or Mitch McConnell. Or Mike Lee.

[TSA]

:lol yeah it's only the NSA, CIA, FBI, and the Directorate of National Intelligence. What do they know?

Do you have any US intelligence agency that disputes it? Forest, tree, that whole thing.

What never gets old for me is laughing at people that act like they have accomplished something over a point of fact that makes no substantive difference to the issue at hand. Even you boy Trump admits that it happened now. He just deflects to Obama. Try and keep up.

Of the 4 agencies, how many were allowed to physically access the DNC servers to run their own forensics and how many were forced to use the DNC funded Crowdstrike report instead?

[boutons_deux]

I would be floored to hear of Mike Pence blackmailing the media. Or Ted Cruz. Or Paul Ryan. Or Jason Chaffetz. Or Mitch McConnell. Or Mike Lee.

Trash's sick, insane, childish shit is repugnant, but mostly short-term, distracting.

The real damage and descent for America is from the Bannon/Miller/oligarchy dept heads selected in bad faith to destroy their depts, and then add up all the shitty bills a Pres Pence would sign without a single veto (Trash will sign them all, too).

and 5-4 SCOTUS with extreme nutcase flame-thrower Gorsuch will make C-U, Hobby Lobby look trivial.

I expect by 2020, SCOTUS will be 6-3 or even 7-2, and the oligarchy will push their cases quickly up to SCOTUS.

[RandomGuy]

Of the 4 agencies, how many were allowed to physically access the DNC servers to run their own forensics and how many were forced to use the DNC funded Crowdstrike report instead?

I am very interested in what he will do. You may give it short shrift, but it is a testable theory, that can make a prediction.

The prediction is that he will do nothing, or as close to nothing as he can. He consistently deals harshly, especially rhetorically, with just about every country but Russia.


Predicting what Trump will, or won't do is sort of a mugs game, for the most part.

The thing about a good theory though, it that it both explains facts, and you can make testable predictions.

Fact 1:
Russia attempted to hack our electoral process through a multi-pronged attack.

Fact 2:
Donald "look how big my inauguration crowd was" Trump has done nothing but deny this even happened. He has shown no willingness whatsoever to hold Russia to account for anything.

Fact 3:
Donald Trump has a pattern of criticizing anyone, and everyone at the drop of a hat. Allies, enemies, courts, free press, nothing has escaped his remarks and twitter feed, except for ONE/(two) thing(s), and that is Russia/Putin

Fact 4:
Russian efforts appeared designed to support Trump

Fact 5:
Trump directly called on Russia publicly to support his efforts to get elected.

Theory:
Donald Trump has been compromised in some way. Either he directly owes them money, or they have evidence of some kind of him breaking the law or doing something he does not want others to know about.

This theory explains those facts, and is fully consistent with observed reality.

Prediction:
Donald Trump will take no action personally, nor will he criticize Russia or Putin in any way in regards to the Russian attack on our elections. He may allow his underlings to do some minor, inconsequential stuff, and if forced to do anything by Congress will drag his feet, if not outright attempt to veto any sanctions.


The way to falsify the theory:
1) Trump criticizes Putin/Russia (good)
2) Trump orders/takes action that materially harms Russian interests (definitive)

Bullshit conspiracy theories fail very often because either: they cannot be falsified, or they directly conflict with observed reality. This theory can be falsified, and does not conflict with what we know as fact.

Donald Trump is unpredictable except for Russia.

I think his past shady business dealings are becoming leverage against him because people with resources and motivation to dig, such as large nation states like China and Russia, are going to come up with things that he would prefer not to be known. This would also explains both his refusal to release his taxes, and his retention of control of his business enterprises. If he cedes too much operational control of those businesses, the possibility of some of those financial records getting out goes up.

[RandomGuy]

Cue TSA "no evidence" meltdown in 3...2...1

To which I simply would ask the other question he keeps melting down about:

Is evidence more, or less likely to be discovered in the time period before an investigation has concluded?



Cue TSA saying something about Clinton in 3....2....1

[RandomGuy]

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Yay.

I wonder what the state-run media has to say about this?

[TSA]

Cue TSA "no evidence" meltdown in 3...2...1

To which I simply would ask the other question he keeps melting down about:

Is evidence more, or less likely to be discovered in the time period before an investigation has concluded?



Cue TSA saying something about Clinton in 3....2....1

I've answered this numerous times you were just too busy spamming the same post over and over to see it.

To answer your question once again, less likely to be discovered in the time period before an investigation has concluded. But, this investigation has been going on almost a year now with the Trump team under surveillance from a FISA warrant obtained using some very shady tactics. 1 year is a long time to find dirt with how advanced our intelligence community is, and not a single leak of evidence of collusion has come out, and there have been a shit ton of leaks.

Your turn.

Of the 4 agencies, how many were allowed to physically access the DNC servers to run their own forensics and how many were forced to use the DNC funded Crowdstrike report instead? Have you gone back and retracted all of your posts claiming "17 intelligence agencies agreed"?

[Pavlov]

TSA say he answer questions now?

[RandomGuy]

I've answered this numerous times you were just too busy spamming the same post over and over to see it.

To answer your question once again, less likely to be discovered in the time period before an investigation has concluded. But, this investigation has been going on almost a year now with the Trump team under surveillance from a FISA warrant obtained using some very shady tactics. 1 year is a long time to find dirt with how advanced our intelligence community is, and not a single leak of evidence of collusion has come out, and there have been a shit ton of leaks.

Your turn.

Of the 4 agencies, how many were allowed to physically access the DNC servers to run their own forensics and how many were forced to use the DNC funded Crowdstrike report instead? Have you gone back and retracted all of your posts claiming "17 intelligence agencies agreed"?

Yay. So we can both agree that we should wait until the investigation has concluded before talking about evidence. If you answered that question, I did not see it, but I have now.

None. All of them. It seems not really all that important, so no.

Easy to answer questions.

Funny thing about searching for "DNC server" news.... so many right-wing websites are harping on this, it is hard to find objective information.

That echo-chamber would explain your obsession.

To which I say "So what?"

DHS offered help after the problem had been mitigated. Is it really surprising they were turned down?

[TSA]

Yay. So we can both agree that we should wait until the investigation has concluded before talking about evidence. If you answered that question, I did not see it, but I have now.

None. All of them. It seems not really all that important, so no.

Easy to answer questions.

Funny thing about searching for "DNC server" news.... so many right-wing websites are harping on this, it is hard to find objective information.

That echo-chamber would explain your obsession.

To which I say "So what?"

DHS offered help after the problem had been mitigated. Is it really surprising they were turned down?Sure we can both agree on that.
Can we also agree there have been tons of leaks coming out of this year long investigation to damage Trump? And if we agree on that can we agree that it is strange that absolutely nothing has been leaked linking Trump to Russia collusion?

How is it not important for our own intelligence agencies to have had direct access to the DNC servers to run their own forensics?

Is it not important that Crowdstrike was hired by the DNC and it's founder has close ties to the DNC and sits on the Atlantic council?
Is it not important that Crowdstrike revised their report twice due to erroes after it was already submitted to the DNC/FBI/???
Is it not important that the DNC refused the help of the FBI during the actual breach and then later denied their request to access the server after the breach?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Of the 4 agencies, how many were allowed to physically access the DNC servers to run their own forensics and how many were forced to use the DNC funded Crowdstrike report instead?

If you want to make an argument do so but this arguing from ignorance begging the question while expected from you is still insipid nonsense.

And you do realize that the probe extends farther than the DNC hack right? There was an article I posted that talked about states voting centers and a whole slew of other attacks than just the Podesta phishing. And of course they didn't need to look at the DNC servers to know the network that the attack came from. Your dumbing shit down wastes all our time.

[TSA]

If you want to make an argument do so but this arguing from ignorance begging the question while expected from you is still insipid nonsense.

And you do realize that the probe extends farther than the DNC hack right? There was an article I posted that talked about states voting centers and a whole slew of other attacks than just the Podesta phishing. And of course they didn't need to look at the DNC servers to know the network that the attack came from. Your dumbing shit down wastes all our time.

Are going to answer the question or dodge again?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Are going to answer the question or dodge again?

I answered your question by speaking to its premise. Yours was typical dumbed down shit and I won't give it credence by answering it any other way.

You can call it a dodge if it makes you feel better about it but I see you as dodging my answer because you aren't getting the one you like.

[TSA]

I answered your question by speaking to its premise. Yours was typical dumbed down shit and I won't give it credence by answering it any other way.

You can call it a dodge if it makes you feel better about it but I see you as dodging my answer because you aren't getting the one you like.
You did not answer the question. But don't worry I won't RandomGuy you.


And of course they didn't need to look at the DNC servers to know the network that the attack came from.

Sure, the NSA didn't, and the NSA had the least amount of confidence attributing to Russia.

Are you comfortable with the other agencies basing their report on a DNC funded CrowdStrike report that was riddled with errors?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You did not answer the question. But don't worry I won't RandomGuy you.



Sure, the NSA didn't, and the NSA had the least amount of confidence attributing to Russia.

Are you comfortable with the other agencies basing their report on a DNC funded CrowdStrike report that was riddled with errors?

Speaking about dodging questions, how about this one you ran from:


Cause the formatting in case law is wonky.

Do you acknowledge that SCOTUS stated that to prosecute under the Espionage Act that proof of intent for bad faith is required?

And you are going to have to show proof that the NSA had no confidence in the link. The NSA was the one that reported in May that Russia attacked the voting centers.

Oh and btw why don't you link your source that the Crowdstrike report was "riddled with errors" It would be good for people to see where you get your takes from.

[TSA]

Speaking about dodging questions, how about this one you ran from:



And you are going to have to show proof that the NSA had no confidence in the link. The NSA was the one that reported in May that Russia attacked the voting centers.

Oh and btw why don't you link your source that the Crowdstrike report was "riddled with errors" It would be good for people to see where you get your takes from.

I never said they had no confidence, I said the NSA had the least amount of confidence. Did you not read the ODNI report?

CrowdStrike retraction

http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/did-the-claim-that-russia-hacked-the-dnc-just-fall-apart/

https://theintercept.com/2017/06/27/cnn-journalists-resign-latest-example-of-media-recklessness-on-the-russia-threat/

https://www.voanews.com/a/cyber-firm-rewrites-part-disputed-russian-hacking-report/3781411.html

https://medium.com/theyoungturks/crowdstrike-the-dncs-security-firm-was-under-contract-with-the-fbi-c6f884c34189

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I never said they had no confidence, I said the NSA had the least amount of confidence. Did you not read the ODNI report?

CrowdStrike retraction

http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/did-the-claim-that-russia-hacked-the-dnc-just-fall-apart/

https://theintercept.com/2017/06/27/cnn-journalists-resign-latest-example-of-media-recklessness-on-the-russia-threat/

https://www.voanews.com/a/cyber-firm-rewrites-part-disputed-russian-hacking-report/3781411.html

https://medium.com/theyoungturks/crowdstrike-the-dncs-security-firm-was-under-contract-with-the-fbi-c6f884c34189

Nice googling. Now read them and quote the relevant portions and you will be on your way to supporting your argument.

[TSA]

Nice googling. Now read them and quote the relevant portions and you will be on your way to supporting your argument.
You asked for links you got them.

I've discussed the errors in the CrowdStrike report for months in this very same thread. Not my fault you were a pussy pretending to have me on ignore.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You asked for links you got them.

I've discussed the errors in the CrowdStrike report for months in this very same thread. Not my fault you were a pussy pretending to have me on ignore.

Oh I know you hope them retracting a portion of the report invalidates the whole thing but you have yet to make a cogent argument to that effect. To me the amount of artillery casualties is irrelevant.

And I really like you linking Greenwald citing RT and Breitbart. That is exactly what I was talking about earlier. It's so cute how you GOPotards try to hide your sources. Shame demonstrated through action.

[TSA]

Oh I know you hope them retracting a portion of the report invalidates the whole thing but you have yet to make a cogent argument to that effect. To me the amount of artillery casualties is irrelevant.

And I really like you linking Greenwald citing RT and Breitbart. That is exactly what I was talking about earlier. It's so cute how you GOPotards try to hide your sources. Shame demonstrated through action.

There are plenty of articles that tore apart the CrowdStrike report before they even made the retractions and I've posted them all here. Arestechnica, wired, techcrunch etc.

It's all in this thread if you cared to look, or you could just research it on your own.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

There are plenty of articles that tore apart the CrowdStrike report before they even made the retractions and I've posted them all here. Arestechnica, wired, techcrunch etc.

It's all in this thread if you cared to look, or you could just research it on your own.

Who said I haven't? If you are unwilling to support your claims with anything more I am satisfied.

BTW what I asked for was proof that the NSA was the least sure or however you characterized it. Still nothing.

[TSA]

Oh I know you hope them retracting a portion of the report invalidates the whole thing but you have yet to make a cogent argument to that effect. To me the amount of artillery casualties is irrelevant.

And I really like you linking Greenwald citing RT and Breitbart. That is exactly what I was talking about earlier. It's so cute how you GOPotards try to hide your sources. Shame demonstrated through action.

It's amusing that you find the artillery casualties irrelevant yet the founder of CrowdStrike used those same artillery casualties to boost his assessment of a Russian intrusion from medium confidence to high confidence.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/cybersecurity-firm-finds-a-link-between-dnc-hack-and-ukrainian-artillery/2016/12/21/47bf1f5a-c7e3-11e6-bf4b-2c064d32a4bf_story.html?utm_term=.b5287cd54d8e

wapo link for shits and giggles

[TSA]

Who said I haven't? If you are unwilling to support your claims with anything more I am satisfied.

BTW what I asked for was proof that the NSA was the least sure or however you characterized it. Still nothing.

If you'd read the ODNI report you wouldn't be asking for a link to the NSA being the least sure, assuming your memory is as good as you claim.



https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf

Confidence in the Sources Supporting Judgements

Moderate confidence generally means that information is credibly sourced and plausible but not of sufficient quality or corroborated sufficiently to warrant a higher level of confidence

[boutons_deux]

Questions To Consider About That WSJ Collusion Article

You’ve no doubt seen the Wall Street Journal article (https://www.wsj.com/articles/gop-operative-sought-clinton-emails-from-hackers-implied-a-connection-to-flynn-1498770851) about the GOP operative and money man who assembled a team to get a hold of Russia-hacked Clinton emails and claimed he was working in concert with disgraced Trump advisor Mike Flynn. From my read, this is one of those articles which is as interesting for what it doesn’t say as what it does. It raises all sorts of questions, a number of which the Investigations Desk will be digging into today.

Here are some basic questions I had.

First, if I’m understanding the calendar right, the Journal’s interview with Peter W. Smith was almost two months before the article appeared, at some time in very early May. That’s a significant period of time. Obviously, big articles take time. But why the big gap? I suspect there was a lot the reporters were working on that couldn’t be confirmed or hasn’t been confirmed yet that took up that time.

Second, Smith wasn’t some random GOP operative with some time on his hands. He had been deep in the the ‘Arkansas Project’ back in the 90s, the money operation that brought us ‘troopergate’ back in the day and to a great extent brought us ‘Whitewater’. Smith had long histories with a lot of big GOP players who are still very active and a number of people who are now top people in the Trump world.

Third, and counter to a lot of the speculation about the Russia story, if Trump or close Trump associates had some de facto understanding with Russian government officials, why would they need Smith to be hiring computer people to reach out to Russian operatives on hacker forums? I can think of a number potential answers to this. But it’s a pretty important question.

Fourth, why did Smith talk to the Journal at all? This may seem like it’s obvious. But it’s really not that obvious to me. One possibility is that the Journal already had a lot of the information and he felt he didn’t have any choice. But remember, Smith apparently died less than two weeks after the interview. If he was gravely ill or even in poor health, he may simply not have cared. He pointed the finger pretty clearly at himself but not clearly at anyone else.

Let’s also remember that this isn’t the first case of this. A month ago two other reporters from the Journal published a story (https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-alleged-russian-hacker-teamed-up-with-florida-gop-operative-1495724787) about Aaron Nevins, a GOP political consultant in Florida who reached out to Guccifer 2.0 (now widely believed to have been a front of fictive personality used by Russian intelligence operatives) looking for more operational data for campaigns he was running last year.

Shane Harris, the reporter on the new story, also contributed reporting to that story about Aaron Nevins. (There are reasons which I’ll discuss in a subsequent post why Nevins quite likely already stipulated to a criminal act in his interview with the Journal.) When I read this article a month ago, I was struck by the concluding two grafs …

He isn’t convinced the Russians were behind it, Mr. Nevins said, but even if they were, it doesn’t matter to him because the agenda of the hackers seemed to match his own.

“If your interests align,” he said, “never shut any doors in politics.”


This seems to have been a widespread belief among the more adventurous run of GOP political operatives last year:

if your interests align with Russian intelligence operatives, it’s not a problem.
I doubt this is the last or even the 10th from last story we’ll hear like this.

Fifth, for all the tantalizing details in the piece, this is the most important.

The operation Mr. Smith described is consistent with information that has been examined by U.S. investigators probing Russian interference in the elections.

Those investigators have examined reports from intelligence agencies that describe Russian hackers discussing how to obtain emails from Mrs. Clinton’s server and then transmit them to Mr. Flynn via an intermediary, according to U.S. officials with knowledge of the intelligence.


We may have suspected this. But to the best of my knowledge, we did not know of the existence of such intelligence until now.

That is a very big deal.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/questions-to-consider-about-that-wsj-collusion-article?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

[FuzzyLumpkins]

If you'd read the ODNI report you wouldn't be asking for a link to the NSA being the least sure, assuming your memory is as good as you claim.



https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf

Confidence in the Sources Supporting Judgements

Moderate confidence generally means that information is credibly sourced and plausible but not of sufficient quality or corroborated sufficiently to warrant a higher level of confidence

Have to love people that think they have accomplished something by doing what should have been done in the first place.

And the report indicates they observed Russian actors hacking local election centers


Russian intelligence accessed elements of multiple state or local electoral boards. Since early 2014, Russian intelligence has researched US electoral processes and related technology and equipment.
 DHS assesses that the types of systems we observed Russian actors targeting or compromising are not involved in vote tallying.

Oh and you should look up what high confidence means.


We assess with high confidence that the GRU used the Guccifer 2.0 persona, DCLeaks.com, and WikiLeaks to release US victim data obtained in cyber operations publicly and in exclusives to media outlets

and


We assess with high confidence that the GRU relayed material it acquired from the DNC and senior Democratic officials to WikiLeaks. Moscow most likely chose WikiLeaks because of its selfproclaimed reputation for authenticity. Disclosures through WikiLeaks did not contain any evident forgeries.

and


We assess Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the US presidential election. Russia’s goals were to undermine public faith in the US democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump. We have high confidence in these judgments.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I really like how he posts shit that contradicts what he was claiming before. Discredit CrowdWatch and then link an intelligence report that they believe with high confidence what Crowdwatch was claiming.

Critical thinking is a lost skill in our local GOP contingent.

[TSA]

I really like how he posts shit that contradicts what he was claiming before. Discredit CrowdWatch and then link an intelligence report that they believe with high confidence what Crowdwatch was claiming.

Critical thinking is a lost skill in our local GOP contingent.

You walked yourself right back into the question you've been dodging.

Of the 4 agencies who compiled the ODNI report, which one's had physical access to the DNC server to run their own forensics?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You walked yourself right back into the question you've been dodging.

Of the 4 agencies who compiled the ODNI report, which one's had physical access to the DNC server to run their own forensics?

:lol So they shouldn't believe it to be the case with high confidence? You cannot even keep up with you own bullshit.

The article subsumes the point you are trying to make. I even quoted the relevant portions for you.


We assess with high confidence that the GRU relayed material it acquired from the DNC and senior Democratic officials to WikiLeaks.

Have fun bleating a flawed question that no one cares about.

[TSA]

Oh I know you hope them retracting a portion of the report invalidates the whole thing but you have yet to make a cogent argument to that effect. To me the amount of artillery casualties is irrelevant.

And I really like you linking Greenwald citing RT and Breitbart. That is exactly what I was talking about earlier. It's so cute how you GOPotards try to hide your sources. Shame demonstrated through action.
“Unlike Crowdstrike, ESET doesn’t assign APT28/Fancy Bear/Sednit to a Russian Intelligence Service or anyone else for a very simple reason. Once malware is deployed, it is no longer under the control of the hacker who deployed it or the developer who created it. It can be reverse-engineered, copied, modified, shared and redeployed again and again by anyone.

https://medium.com/@jeffreycarr/fbi-dhs-joint-analysis-report-a-fatally-flawed-effort-b6a98fafe2fa



https://medium.com/@jeffreycarr/faith-based-attribution-30f4a658eabc

[TSA]

:lol So they shouldn't believe it to be the case with high confidence? You cannot even keep up with you own bullshit.

The article subsumes the point you are trying to make. I even quoted the relevant portions for you.



Have fun bleating a flawed question that no one cares about.

You should care about it and question why our top intelligence agencies were not allowed to run forensics and had to rely on a DNC funded highly flawed and then revised report.

I see you've given up trying to defend the CrowdStrike report

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You should care about it and question why our top intelligence agencies were not allowed to run forensics and had to rely on a DNC funded highly flawed and then revised report.

I see you've given up trying to defend the CrowdStrike report

I'm not getting mired in the round and round you got RG to bite on. It's a red herring.

The crowdstrike report was corroborated by the NSA, dimwit. That is a defense that you linked for us.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

“Unlike Crowdstrike, ESET doesn’t assign APT28/Fancy Bear/Sednit to a Russian Intelligence Service or anyone else for a very simple reason. Once malware is deployed, it is no longer under the control of the hacker who deployed it or the developer who created it. It can be reverse-engineered, copied, modified, shared and redeployed again and again by anyone.

https://medium.com/@jeffreycarr/fbi-dhs-joint-analysis-report-a-fatally-flawed-effort-b6a98fafe2fa



https://medium.com/@jeffreycarr/faith-based-attribution-30f4a658eabc


We assess with high confidence that the GRU relayed material it acquired from the DNC and senior Democratic officials to WikiLeaks.

NSA says Crowdstrike is right and that Russian intelligence hacked the DNC and Dem leadership. That subsumes all of what you are trying to do here. Are you too stupid to understand that?

I get that you want to rehash the shit arguments you got from breitbart 6 months ago but that ship sailed in May when the NSA report came out. You are another that struggles to assimilate new information. Seeing that you have to be led by the nose in the first place this is not surprising.

[DarrinS]

Hopefully, they have more info than what was publicly reported by Crowdstrike. Their evidence for attribution to Russia wasn't very compelling.

[TSA]

NSA says Crowdstrike is right and that Russian intelligence hacked the DNC and Dem leadership.

Surely you have more from the NSA than the ODNI that was widely laughed at by the security community.

[TSA]

Hopefully, they have more info than what was publicly reported by Crowdstrike. Their evidence for attribution to Russia wasn't very compelling.

After the Vault 7 release attribution became nearly impossible for any hack unless hackers were caught in the act.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Surely you have more from the NSA than the ODNI that was widely laughed at by the security community.

So now you are going to trash your own report? Logical consistency is not your strong suit.

So when you want something you laud the medium certainty of the report. When you don't want something, you make up stories about how the "security industry" laughs at it.

You're so full of shit.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

After the Vault 7 release attribution became nearly impossible for any hack unless hackers were caught in the act.

Via the tools used sure but there are other ways to trace the source particularly for an entity like the NSA who has their thumb on the telecom industry as outlined by Snowden.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Hopefully, they have more info than what was publicly reported by Crowdstrike. Their evidence for attribution to Russia wasn't very compelling.

Given the breadth and access that the NSA has it's a certainty they do.

[TSA]

So now you are going to trash your own report? Logical consistency is not your strong suit.

So when you want something you laud the medium certainty of the report. When you don't want something, you make up stories about how the "security industry" laughs at it.

You're so full of shit.

I've trashed it since it's release. That pesky ignore feature has you playing catch up.

Also, you forgot to add more NSA attribution beyond the ODNI

[TSA]

Via the tools used sure but there are other ways to trace the source particularly for an entity like the NSA who has their thumb on the telecom industry as outlined by Snowden.

Explain the CIA's Umbrage in your own words.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I've trashed it since it's release. That pesky ignore feature has you playing catch up.

Also, you forgot to add more NSA attribution beyond the ODNI

You try to have it both ways. Refer to it when it suits your argument and then disclaim it when it doesn't. It's sophistry. No reason to take you seriously.

You do not understand the role of the DNI.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Explain the CIA's Umbrage in your own words.

:lol you think that leak is the totality of it.

[TSA]

You try to have it both ways. Refer to it when it suits your argument and then disclaim it when it doesn't. It's sophistry. No reason to take you seriously.

You do not understand the role of the DNI.

I've never tried to have it both ways. I've shit on the report from the start. The NSA's moderate confidence in a lackluster and laughable report only bolsters my point.

Convince me the ODNI report that was 75% about RT news reports was not laughable.

[TSA]

:lol you think that leak is the totality of it.

Totality of what exactly?

Umbrage is specific to the topic at hand. Vault 7 in its entirety is a whole other thread.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I've never tried to have it both ways. I've shit on the report from the start. The NSA's moderate confidence in a lackluster and laughable report only bolsters my point.

Convince me the ODNI report that was 75% about RT news reports was not laughable.

We both know you cherry picked the medium one and ignored the high confidence conclusions. I do find it amusing that is what stuck out in your mind though. I went ahead and quoted the ones you ignored to outline your attempt at deception.

I have no desire to try and convince you. If you want to make arguments then I will argue the issue but convincing you is a waste of time. You're intellectually lazy, pigheaded, and dumb. Taking the time to explain topics of even an intermediate level is just tedious so I pass.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Totality of what exactly?

Umbrage is specific to the topic at hand. Vault 7 in its entirety is a whole other thread.

If you know what that selection is and cannot understand what I mean by a greater totality then you are as dumb as I think you are. If someone else wants an explanation then fine but your ignorance is not worth the time to fix.

[boutons_deux]

Richard Clarke


“That’s why he’s not investigating it!” Clarke exclaimed. “That’s why he’s not doing all the things we need to do to make sure it can’t happen again… This is the 21st century equivalent to having Russians land Marines on the Jersey Shore. They invaded our country. They invaded our political system and they won. And he doesn’t care.”


http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/russia-invaded-our-country-and-he-doesnt-care-national-security-expert-richard-clarke-fearful-under-trump/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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:lmao :lmao :lmao

[djohn2oo8]

880966993930801152
:lmao :lmao :lmao
Reck

[djohn2oo8]

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[spurraider21]

is this boom?

[djohn2oo8]

is this boom?

Yes. Very bad night for team treason

[pgardn]

I learned from the articles that many people were looking for Hillary Clinton's hacked emails.

[TSA]

We both know you cherry picked the medium one and ignored the high confidence conclusions. I do find it amusing that is what stuck out in your mind though. I went ahead and quoted the ones you ignored to outline your attempt at deception.

I have no desire to try and convince you. If you want to make arguments then I will argue the issue but convincing you is a waste of time. You're intellectually lazy, pigheaded, and dumb. Taking the time to explain topics of even an intermediate level is just tedious so I pass.You won't argue the issue and shy away from key components when pressed.

[djohn2oo8]

I learned from the articles that many people were looking for Hillary Clinton's hacked emails.

And Russians discussing getting it to Trump's NSA pick.

[TSA]

I learned from the articles that many people were looking for Hillary Clinton's hacked emails.

I too was looking for Clinton emails. Maybe I'll write an article.

[pgardn]

And Russians discussing getting it to Trump's NSA pick.

Russians gave these to many people. Did the NSA chief request them from the Russians after asking the Russians to illegally gather them?

[TSA]

880986364547936260

:rollin

[djohn2oo8]

Russians gave these to many people. Did the NSA chief request them from the Russians after asking the Russians to illegally gather them?

Yes you moron. Why were the Russians discussing how to send it to Flynn? Bannon? Conaway? :lmao Just stop

[djohn2oo8]

Not even counting that Trump publicly told the Russians to hack Hillary :lmao

Fucking dipshit

[Reck]

Russians gave these to many people. Did the NSA chief request them from the Russians after asking the Russians to illegally gather them?

Ok, so?

The purported article by the wsj name names. People that are currently working for Trump.

It remains to be seen if those people recieved and distributed said documents to discredit Hillary.

[TSA]

Yes you moron. Why were the Russians discussing how to send it to Flynn? Bannon? Conaway? :lmao Just stop

I missed the part where the NSA chief requested them from the Russians. Can you please provide the link to this new claim.

[TSA]

Ok, so?

The purported article by the wsj name names. People that are currently working for Trump.

It remains to be seen if those people recieved and distributed said documents to discredit Hillary.The guy that named them didn't even get the documents, how would he have passed them on?

[DarrinS]

Corpse looking for Hillary emails -- search for collusion in its death throes

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You won't argue the issue and shy away from key components when pressed.

:lol key issues? From the cherry picker.
:lol accusing people of running away from the guy who leaves threads rather than admit he was wrong.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It's funny reading Darrin and TSA semen shield and wishcast their best case scenario on every uncertainty.

[pgardn]

Yes you moron. Why were the Russians discussing how to send it to Flynn? Bannon? Conaway? :lmao Just stop

You are a Fckn liar.

Please show me where the aforementioned requested that Hillary's emails be hacked and then asked for the info?
They did not even know she had this on her server to even ask the Russians for the emails you moron.

[pgardn]

Not even counting that Trump publicly told the Russians to hack Hillary :lmao

Fucking dipshit

Oh please...

This was AFTER her emails were already compromised.
Dont be a potted plant.

[Chris]

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19598993_149353835623801_4425408039205956573_n.jpg ?oh=d9e0ca2f59938321a68f2d7a920f867e&oe=5A0D454C

[spurraider21]

:wow picture is worth a thousand words

https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/778165c1655b19ad14a36ccf12128185956e4cb5/c=310-0-5162-3648&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/2017/03/14/USATODAY/USATODAY/636250957887148917-EPA-USA-SAUDI-ARABIA-TRUMP.jpg

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Chris reads like he does nothing but post memes from thedonald subreddit. An acute lack of original thought.

[Reck]

Chris reads like he does nothing but post memes from thedonald subreddit. An acute lack of original thought.

The guy never really engages in discussions. He makes his dumb remarks and leaves. Or posts some retarded alt right meme.

[Chris]

RAH! RAH! RAH ! RAH!


RAH! RAH! RAH! RAH!


https://clevelandwill.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/larry-david-yawn.gif?w=300&h=167

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Chris proving our point post by post.

[pgardn]

TSA

Im sure you will look into this one closely.

http://www.palmerreport.com/opinion/death-trump-russia-colluding-peter-smith/3682/

probably not... wrong team.

[TSA]

TSA

Im sure you will look into this one closely.

http://www.palmerreport.com/opinion/death-trump-russia-colluding-peter-smith/3682/

probably not... wrong team.

:lol Palmer Report
:lol Louise Mensch with a penis

[djohn2oo8]

Hmm now Tillerson frustrated and thinking of quitting.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The guy that named them didn't even get the documents, how would he have passed them on?

They delivered the emails to SMith. He just did not know how to vet them properly. That is in the article too.

[Reck]

Hmm now Tillerson frustrated and thinking of quitting.

Dude thought he was getting an upgrade and instead got a man child boss who uses twitter to troll people about petty shit.

Time to call Exxon for his job back. :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Dude thought he was getting an upgrade and instead got a man child boss who uses twitter to troll people about petty shit.

Time to call Exxon for his job back. :lol

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[djohn2oo8]

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[FuzzyLumpkins]

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All reports are that Trump rants and raves constantly. How much you want to bet Kushner doesn't scold him?

[Thread]

All reports are that Trump rants and raves constantly. How much you want to bet Kushner doesn't scold him?

Give me that shit:::when he put Till there you screamed about big oil & billionaires & big oil & Standard Oil & big oil & rich people & big oil & big oil.

Now? You feel sorry for Till & side him because of FAKE NEWS.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Give me that shit:::when he put Till there you screamed about big oil & billionaires & big oil & Standard Oil & big oil & rich people & big oil & big oil.

Now? You feel sorry for Till & side him because of FAKE NEWS.

I was talking about Kushner and I don't subscribe to that zero sum thought process. I actually agree with Kushner on the sentiment I just think it would be better applied elsewehere.

Caught up yet, Bozo?

[Thread]

I was talking about Kushner and I don't subscribe to that zero sum thought process. I actually agree with Kushner on the sentiment I just think it would be better applied elsewehere.

Caught up yet, Bozo?

FAKE NEWS

[Pavlov]

What Kushner's qualifications to do anything but pile up debt?

[Thread]

What Kushner's qualifications to do anything but pile up debt?

Hammerin' that thing like trout meat every chance she'll permit it.

[Pavlov]

Hammerin' that thing like trout meat every chance she'll permit it.You say Kushner fuck Donald every chance Melania give him. All make sense now. She give Kushner every chance to fuck Donald since she reject Donald.

[Thread]

You say Kushner fuck Donald every chance Melania give him. All make sense now. She give Kushner every chance to fuck Donald since she reject Donald.

:rolleyes

[Pavlov]

:rolleyesYour words. Jared fuck Donald in bungholio so Donald give him many jobs including blow and hand.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Sessions is discussing Mueller's job publicly despite recusal.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2017/07/01/sessions-recusal-trump-russia-mueller-probe-240169

[Thread]

Your words. Jared fuck Donald in bungholio so Donald give him many jobs including blow and hand.

:rolleyes

[Chris]

Sessions is discussing Mueller's job publicly despite recusal.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2017/07/01/sessions-recusal-trump-russia-mueller-probe-240169

Did he do Mueller damnable dirt? Should we tar and feather or public execution? Give us the skinny Luzzy.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Did he do Mueller damnable dirt? Should we tar and feather or public execution? Give us the skinny Luzzy.

as melodrama goes that was pretty weak. I can see why you typically go for memes, gifs and youtubes.

[Pavlov]

:rolleyesAw, you whiny shit baby just like Trump. Can dish out not take.

[Thread]

Aw, you whiny shit baby just like Trump. Can dish out not take.
:rolleyes

[TSA]

They delivered the emails to SMith. He just did not know how to vet them properly. That is in the article too.

"Towards the end of one of our conversations, Smith made his pitch. He said that his team had been contacted by someone on the “dark web”; that this person had the emails from Hillary Clinton’s private email server (which she had subsequently deleted), and that Smith wanted to establish if the emails were genuine. If so, he wanted to ensure that they became public prior to the election. What he wanted from me was to determine if the emails were genuine or not."

"In the end, I never saw the actual materials they’d been given, and to this day, I don’t know whether there were genuine emails, or whether Smith and his associates were deluding themselves."


I don't see any confirmation Smith ever received them. I haven't read much of Smith's actual story either so I may have missed it. Got any other links confirming Smith actually received the emails?

[pgardn]

:lol Palmer Report
:lol Louise Mensch with a penis

= wrong team of nuts

[boutons_deux]

The Guardian Just Revealed Chilling Details Of Russia’s Pro-Trump Fake News


investigators look into how the Internet was used to plant false stories in social media and communicate fake news to “alt-right” websites intended to damage Hillary Clinton.

“The spread of Russian-made fake news stories aimed at discrediting Hillary Clinton on social media is emerging as an important line of inquiry in multiple investigations into possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Moscow, reports The Guardian, a UK news outlet. (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/05/donald-trump-russia-investigation-fake-news-hillary-clinton)

“Investigators are looking into whether Trump supporters and far-right websites coordinated with Moscow over the release of fake news,”continues The Guardian’s report, “including stories implicating Clinton in murder or pedophilia, or paid to boost those stories on Facebook.”

at least 1,000 “paid internet trolls working out of a facility in Russia” turned out a stream of anti-Clinton fake news sites during the heat of the presidential campaign,


The investigators are particularly interested in how fake news stories that supported Trump, reported CNN on June 16, “pinpointed in key areas of the Rust Belt states that ultimately flipped from blue to red – and helped Trump secure the White House.”


some areas of Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania were being flooded with “misinformation” about “Hillary Clinton’s illness or Hillary Clinton stealing money from the State Department or other,” reported CNN.

“It completely blanked out any of the back and forth that was actually going on in the campaign,” said Warner.


Warner also raised questions about whether the Russians on their own had the knowledge and sophistication to know exactly which precincts to attack, or whether the Russians and their allies had help from Americans working on behalf of Trump.

“It is a wide-ranging investigation that is examing the unusually large number of contacts between Trump associates and Russian officials during the campaign,” reports The Guardian, “as well as the possibility that the Kremlin has personal or financial leverage over members in the Trump camp, including the president himself, according to his own remarks on Twitter.”


John Mattes, who worked on digital efforts for Bernie Sanders during the campaign from San Diego, told The Guardian that the fake news flood really began after March 2016,

“In a 30-day period,” says Mattes, “dozens of full-blown sites appeared overnight, running full level productions posts. It screamed out to me that something strange was going on.”

Mattes said he tried to “friend” some of the posters on Facebook but got no response. He said much of it could not be traced but he

“tracked 40 percent of the new postings back to Eastern Europe.”

reports the Guardian. The posts included stories that Clinton helped arm Islamic State extremists.

The posts were coming out of places in Albania and Macedonia where it made it harder to link it back to Russia.

An Albanian IT expert ran a pro-Sanders page that had 90,000 friends on Facebook.
Mattes said that if these sites were just out to get the maximum number of clicks they would have switched over time to other subjects, but they did not. Almost all of them went dark right after the election ended.

“This is a cost-effective hands-free method with no blowback to you if you are in St. Petersburg creating this product,” said Mattes.


Mattes was shaken when he read around August 10, 2016, about a dossier reportedly created by former British intelligence officer that said

the Russian digital campaign purposely set out to drive a wedge between Sanders and Clinton.

It also later discredited Sanders to push voters as the actual election neared to vote for Trump.


“We basically set ourselves up to be victims of an international cyber warfare campaign,” said Mattes. “We were pawns in this but very effective pawns.”



Clint Watts, a former FBI counter-terrorism expert, now at a think tank based at George Washington University, saw


the same pattern of fake news being sent at the same times as Mattes.
Watts found a high degree of what appears to be

coordination between the Russians and alt-right websites in the U.S.

“They synchronize so quickly it looks as if they know when a particular story was going to come out,”

Watts told the Senate Intelligence Committee, adding:

“They all parrot the Kremlin narrative.”


All of this is powerful evidence that the Russians paid for a coordinated effort to damage Secretary Clinton, who the Kremlin considered unfriendly, and help Trump, who at the very least was seen as someone they could influence – if not control.

The presidential election was so close in the end that the waves of fake news and Russian-influenced misinformation may well have played a role in the election of Donald Trump.

http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/07/05/guardian-just-revealed-chilling-details-russias-pro-trump-fake-news/

[boutons_deux]

Russian Official Mysteriously Owns Millions in Trump Property


http://static01.mediaite.com/med/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/rendered-6.jpg (http://static01.mediaite.com/med/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/rendered-6.jpg)

Igor Zorin runs a broadcasting company in Russia that only makes him $75,000 a year. Yet somehow Zorin has bought three units in Trump condominium developments in Florida. Huh?

That’s right, according to various reports, Zorin owns three condos (https://en.crimerussia.com/gromkie-dela/transparency-found-elite-housing-in-miami-belonging-to-head-of-federal-state-unitary-enterprise-broa/)and one house in Florida that are reportedly worth up to $8.4 million.

Zorin started buying the condos in 2010 and all three are at Trump Palace, worth $5.4 million total. Aside from the money discrepancies, there is suspicion over the fact that none of Zorin’s property purchases were made using bank financing (http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/russian-media-official-who-makes-75k-per-year-spent-millions-on-trump-condos/), which clearly suggests he paid for these holdings entirely in cash.


Zorin, however, was never the original owner of the properties.

Investigations went further when Zorin appeared to have ties with Svyatoslav Mangushev, a Russian intelligence officer who also owns real estate in Miami.

His relationship with Mangushev is first found odd because of Mangushev’s part in co-founding a biker club called “Spetsnaz M.C.” with other Russian expatriates in Southern Florida. Secondly, Zorin and Mangushev have fishy ties.

“In Russia, security firms that have been linked to Mangushev have won $2.4 million worth of contracts from Zorin’s agency since 2015. In Miami, Mangushev once transferred a Florida company that owned a $1.5 million condo out of his name and into Zorin’s.

No deed of sale was recorded, meaning the price paid — if any — is unknown,”

http://www.mediaite.com/online/russian-official-mysteriously-owns-millions-in-trump-property/ (http://www.mediaite.com/online/russian-official-mysteriously-owns-millions-in-trump-property/)

Trash is going down for financial crimes.

[boutons_deux]

Hey Paul Ryan, where's that Russia sanctions bill the Senate passed 98-2? (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/7/5/1678067/-Hey-Paul-Ryan-where-s-that-Russia-sanctions-bill-the-Senate-passed-98-2)

Immediately after a bill imposing tougher sanctions on Russia and limiting Donald Trump’s ability to lift them passed the Senate (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/14/us/politics/trump-russia-sanctions.html) with overwhelming support last month, House Speaker

Paul Ryan and his leadership team buried it (https://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/6/22/1674173/-Shhh-White-House-quietly-urging-Republicans-to-weaken-Russian-sanctions-bill) over procedural concerns, claiming the legislation should have originated in the House.

At the time, Trump officials just happened to be lobbying (https://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/6/22/1674173/-Shhh-White-House-quietly-urging-Republicans-to-weaken-Russian-sanctions-bill) House lawmakers to weaken the measure.?"

The mystery is, why hasn't the Trump administration taken a forceful stand in supporting this measure, this sanctions bill?" Blumenthal said.

Blumenthal insisted that there is no question the bill has support in the House, and would be passed if the Trump administration would give it the green light.

"I think it has to do possibly with financial and business dealings, as well as the possibility that he is simply resisting the meddling investigation conducted now by the special counsel," Blumenthal said.

The bill has now gained pushback (https://www.wsj.com/articles/oil-giants-lobby-against-bill-to-toughen-russia-sanctions-1499114749?mg=prod/accounts-wsj) from special interest groups (http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-sanctions-bill-house-vote-pete-sessions-2017-7)in the energy sector—in particular, a special interest group with connections: Exxon Mobil Corp.

Along with other energy companies, Exxon is arguing that it could hurt their bottom line if it affects their joint ventures with certain Russian partners.

Exxon’s advocacy also presents a potential political problem for the Trump administration, which has been trying to avoid conflict-of-interest questions involving Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, the oil giant’s former chief executive.

Mr. Tillerson, who has promised to recuse himself from matters involving Exxon, hasn’t explicitly spoken out against the sanctions bill, but last month urged Congress not to take any actions that tie the administration’s hands.


Well, this is a shocker—Tillerson doing the bidding of his Exxon buddies who are lining up with the Russians, while Paul Ryan looks the other way and Trump meets (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/7/5/1678053/-G20-worries-Trump-and-Putin-may-get-on-too-well-while-rest-of-world-gets-on-without-America?_=2017-07-05T09:25:33.308-07:00) with Russian President Vladimir Putin at the G20 with “no specific agenda (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/06/29/mcmaster-trump-to-meet-with-putin-at-the-g-20-summit/?utm_term=.f7790e86ac20).”

https://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/7/5/1678067/-Hey-Paul-Ryan-where-s-that-Russia-sanctions-bill-the-Senate-passed-98-2?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29

iow,the oligarchy doesn't GAF that Pootin queered the election, because it's always "oligarchy's wealth before and over country"

[TSA]

:cry where is djohn2oo8 :cry

[boutons_deux]

Trump was asked: “Will you once and for all, yes or no, say that Russia definitive interfered with the 2016 election.”

He refused to do so, saying that “it could have been other people in other countries.”

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-poland-press-conference-c5b4c41c62c0

but Trash trashed Obama for not taking action AGAINST RUSSIA during the campaign. :lol

Trash is fucking clinically nuts.

[DarrinS]

Trump was asked: “Will you once and for all, yes or no, say that Russia definitive interfered with the 2016 election.”

He refused to do so, saying that “it could have been other people in other countries.”

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-poland-press-conference-c5b4c41c62c0

but Trash trashed Obama for not taking action AGAINST RUSSIA during the campaign. :lol

Trash is fucking clinically nuts.





17 agencies

[Thread]

Trump was asked: “Will you once and for all, yes or no, say that Russia definitive interfered with the 2016 election.”

He refused to do so, saying that “it could have been other people in other countries.”

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-poland-press-conference-c5b4c41c62c0

but Trash trashed Obama for not taking action AGAINST RUSSIA during the campaign. :lol

Trash is fucking clinically nuts.




& O went first the other day talking about temporary loss of leadership in the U.S.. There ain't any free shots. You're gonna pay a price when you talk out of a school.

& T is correct here. O didn't choke. He just figured Hillary was gonna win and didn't want to disturb that eventuality.

He mopped the fuckin' floor with her fuckin' ass.

[Pavlov]

Thanks to all Americans supporting Mother Russia and blameless, innocent Putin as much as they support Trump.

[Adam Lambert]

aмерика первая

[boutons_deux]

https://img1.etsystatic.com/162/0/12730895/il_570xN.1223988043_j79x.jpg

[boutons_deux]

Poll: Most Americans Think Trump Did Something Wrong With Russia

A majority of Americans — about 54 percent — think President Donald Trump did something either illegal or unethical when it comes to Russia’s involvement in the U.S. election,

about a quarter think Trump did something illegal, and 29 percent think his actions were probably unethical, but didn’t break the law.

Nearly three-quarters of Republicans think Trump did not do anything wrong regarding Russia — 73 percent — with 15 percent indicating they think he did something unethical, but not illegal.

Just 4 percent of the Republicans surveyed think Trump was involved in illegal activities with Russia.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/most-americans-think-trump-did-something-wrong-with-russia

:lol The Repug tribe: our Trash is garbage, but he's OUR Trash, even while he's screwing the 80% and enriching the 20%

[boutons_deux]

Chuck Todd‏Verified account @chucktodd (https://twitter.com/chucktodd)



A trashing of the American press corps and Intel community in Eastern Europe of all places.

Could Putin have asked for anything more?

5:22 AM - 6 Jul 2017

https://twitter.com/chucktodd/status/882937875330981888

Trash has NO.FUCKING.CLUE of how his equally Pootin-compromised but much smarter entourage are using him as Useful Idiot

Why speechify Warsaw? How about the USSR's "WARSAW PACT"? :lol

[ducks]

Poll: Most Americans Think Trump Did Something Wrong With Russia

A majority of Americans — about 54 percent — think President Donald Trump did something either illegal or unethical when it comes to Russia’s involvement in the U.S. election,

about a quarter think Trump did something illegal, and 29 percent think his actions were probably unethical, but didn’t break the law.

Nearly three-quarters of Republicans think Trump did not do anything wrong regarding Russia — 73 percent — with 15 percent indicating they think he did something unethical, but not illegal.

Just 4 percent of the Republicans surveyed think Trump was involved in illegal activities with Russia.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/most-americans-think-trump-did-something-wrong-with-russia

:lol The Repug tribe: our Trash is garbage, but he's OUR Trash, even while he's screwing the 80% and enriching the 20%



MOST POLLS SAID CLINTON WOULD WIN
TOO BAD THEY ASKED 80 PERCENT LIBERALS

[boutons_deux]

‘Those two committed treason’: Conspiracy bloggers say CNN has damning transcripts of Kushner and Bannon


http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/those-two-committed-treason-conspiracy-bloggers-say-cnn-has-damning-transcripts-of-kushner-and-bannon/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[ducks]

Conspiracy bloggers people you should bet your life on

[Pavlov]

Conspiracy bloggers people you should bet your life onThanks to you also ducks, for protecting our Mother Russia and Dear Leader Putin.

[TSA]

‘Those two committed treason’: Conspiracy bloggers say CNN has damning transcripts of Kushner and Bannon


http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/those-two-committed-treason-conspiracy-bloggers-say-cnn-has-damning-transcripts-of-kushner-and-bannon/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

:lol CNN

[ducks]

the former president was more dangerous then then putin!
he was not even a legal usa citizen
why the hell did his grandma die when it was being questions and it took him years to show his fake birthcerticate

[DarrinS]

Thanks to you also ducks, for protecting our Mother Russia and Dear Leader Putin.

Wash, rinse, repeat

[Pavlov]

Wash, rinse, repeatThanks to you also Darrin. You have never said bad thing about Mother Russia or Dear Leader Putin. Please to repeat that like good dog.

[DarrinS]

Thanks to you also Darrin. You have never said bad thing about Mother Russia or Dear Leader Putin. Please to repeat that like good dog.

What's up RG?

[Pavlov]

What's up RG?See? Nothing ever bad about Putin.

Good dog.

[boutons_deux]

Trump Just Made A Suspicious Last Minute Change to His Putin Meeting

The President, apparently, doesn’t seem to care about optics, or about their concerns.

Axios is reporting (https://www.axios.com/coming-attractions-trump-putin-meeting-2454467032.html) that Trump has kicked everyone out of the meeting except for Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and a translator.

“According to an official familiar with the meeting’s planning,” Axios writer Jonathan Swan reported today,

“it will be

Trump,

Putin,

the Secretary of State Rex Tillerson,

the Russian foreign minister Sergey Lavrov, and

translators.”

http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/07/06/trump-just-made-suspicious-last-minute-change-putin-meeting/

Probably will be 2018 and 2020 campaigns strategy session. :lol

[boutons_deux]

Former US Officials Just Warned That Russia Is Flooding America With Spies Under Trump

Intelligence officials are now reporting that the incompetence of the Trump administration is prompting

the Russian Federation to expand their intelligence-gathering efforts in the United States

in the wake of their determined efforts to interfere in the November 2016 election on behalf of Donald Trump.

“Russians have maintained an aggressive collection posture in the US, and their success in election meddling has not deterred them”

Russia is apparently refilling their ranks of spies after President Obama expelled 35 spies doubling as diplomats as part of the backlash against the Russian disinformation and spying campaign during the 2016 election.

Thanks to the negligence of the Trump administration,

Russia is believed to have around 150 spies active in the United States, (http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/06/politics/russia-steps-up-spying-efforts-after-election/index.html?adkey=bn)

trying to infiltrate organizations with access to sensitive information while actively trying to hack into U.S. government servers.

http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/07/06/former-us-officials-just-warned-russia-flooding-america-spies-trump/

[DarrinS]

It's raining spies, tbh

[Pavlov]

It's raining spies, tbhSweet, innocent Darrin knows there being no such thing as Russian spy.

[boutons_deux]

here's all y'all's PIECE OF ORANGE SHIT on the international stage

Trump Slams ‘Disgraceful’ John Podesta at G-20: ‘Everyone Here is Talking About’ Him

Early Friday morning, President Trump took to Twitter to thank those who gave him ‘great reviews’ of the speech he gave in Poland and reflected on meetings he had with several world leaders.

However, between such tweets, he took aim at former Clinton chairman John Podesta.


(https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/874276197357596672/kUuht00m_normal.jpgDonald J. Trump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)
(https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)✔@realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)

Everyone here is talking about why John Podesta refused to give the DNC server to the FBI and the CIA. Disgraceful!
2:40 AM - 7 Jul 2017 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/883229270943911936)

It is unknown as to why Trump specifically went after Podesta now, but it might have something to do with a recent piece written by Clinton Cash author Peter Schweizer (http://nypost.com/2017/07/05/uncovering-the-russia-ties-of-hillarys-campaign-chief/) that was published Wednesday night in the New York Post.

In it, Schweizer lays out Podesta’s ties to Russia, including one that involves the Russian government giving a small green-energy company called Joule Unlimited $35 mil, which he served as a board member of while Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State, something he failed to disclose when he began working for President Obama in 2014 as White House Counsel. Podesta was recently confronted about this by Fox Business’s Maria Bartiromo (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/john-podesta-and-maria-bartiromo-fight-over-deep-russia-ties-get-your-facts-straight/).

http://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-slams-disgraceful-john-podesta-at-g-20-everyone-here-is-talking-about-him/

Trash Pres, not Podesta.

Goddam, Trash is one huge pile of stinkin garbage

[boutons_deux]

Is Trash's defense that he's admitting he's been compromised by Pootin, but Podesta is, too? So for Trash, it's OK?

On the international stage, who the FUCK gives a FUCK about Podesta?

Trash is mentally ill, an emotional and intellectual midget, stunted at 12 years old, at age 71.

[DarrinS]

Why don't they let FBI examine their server? Seems like a legit criticism to me.

[Pavlov]

Trump goes full TSA ding.

[Adam Lambert]

Why don't they let FBI examine their server? Seems like a legit criticism to me.

what was podestas connection to the dnc, darrin?

lol legit criticism

[ducks]

Is Trash's defense that he's admitting he's been compromised by Pootin, but Podesta is, too? So for Trash, it's OK?

On the international stage, who the FUCK gives a FUCK about Podesta?

Trash is mentally ill, an emotional and intellectual midget, stunted at 12 years old, at age 71.
what does that make you?

[boutons_deux]

Trump Just Spoke To Putin About The Election Hacking And Let Him Off The Hook

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/461964160838803457/8z9FImcv_normal.pngThe Associated Press (https://twitter.com/AP)
(https://twitter.com/AP)✔@AP (https://twitter.com/AP)

BREAKING: Russian foreign minister says Trump accepted Putin's assurances that Russia didn't meddle in the U.S. election.

12:44 PM - 7 Jul 2017 (https://twitter.com/AP/status/883381310173179905)




https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/863537314412335104/Zj2_r7J3_normal.jpgJim Acosta (https://twitter.com/Acosta)
(https://twitter.com/Acosta)✔@Acosta (https://twitter.com/Acosta)

Tillerson tells reporters Trump and Putin did discuss concern about "Russian interference" in last year's election adding "Putin denied" it.
12:24 PM - 7 Jul 2017 (https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/883376120091090944)


http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/07/07/trump-just-spoke-putin-election-hacking-let-off-hook-2/

Well, I'm so relieved that's over! :lol

Pootin is such a great guy, no dirty tricks from him :lol

[Reck]

Why don't they let FBI examine their server? Seems like a legit criticism to me.

Comey himself said the Crowd Strike analysis was enough for them to go of it. If the FBI saw something off from that analyses than they should have said something and reccomend they'd do it themselves but they didn't so what's the problem?

[Pavlov]

Now Trump give Sudetenland to Putin for be such honest good guy!

[TSA]

Comey himself said the Crowd Strike analysis was enough for them to go of it. If the FBI saw something off from that analyses than they should have said something and reccomend they'd do it themselves but they didn't so what's the problem?

You failed to answer his question, not that any of use really could since we are not the DNC. The question was why did the DNC refuse to let the FBI examine the servers. We are talking about a hack done by someone during our election with implications bigger than we've ever seen and the FBI doesn't even get to examine the servers. It literally makes no sense. What was the DNC hiding?

[Chris]

Why don't they let FBI examine their server? Seems like a legit criticism to me.

Shhh its a secret

[boutons_deux]

Trump Misleads (LIES) on Russian Meddling: Why 17 Intelligence Agencies Don’t Need to Agree

WASHINGTON — President Trump said on Thursday that only “three or four” of the United States’ 17 intelligence agencies had concluded that Russia interfered in the presidential election — a statement that while technically accurate, is misleading and suggests widespread dissent among American intelligence agencies when none has emerged.

The “three or four” agencies referred to by Mr. Trump are the

Central Intelligence Agency (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/c/central_intelligence_agency/index.html?inline=nyt-org),

the National Security Agency (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/n/national_security_agency/index.html?inline=nyt-org),

the F.B.I. (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/f/federal_bureau_of_investigation/index.html?inline=nyt-org) and

the Office of the Director of National Intelligence,

all of which determined that Russia interfered in the election.

Their work was compiled into a report, and a declassified version was released on Jan. 6 by the director of national intelligence.

It said that

all four agencies had “high confidence (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/06/us/politics/russia-hack-report.html)” that Russian spies had tried to interfere in the election on the orders of President Vladimir V. Putin.

The reason the views of only those four intelligence agencies,

not all 17, were included in the assessment is simple:

They were the ones tracking and analyzing the Russian campaign. :lol

The rest were doing other work.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/06/us/politics/trump-russia-intelligence-agencies-cia-fbi-nsa.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

[Chris]

Boots still convinced it was ze Russians :lol Trump mopped the f'n floor with her ass.

[Pavlov]

You failed to answer his question, not that any of use really could since we are not the DNC. The question was why did the DNC refuse to let the FBI examine the servers. We are talking about a hack done by someone during our election with implications bigger than we've ever seen and the FBI doesn't even get to examine the servers. It literally makes no sense. What was the DNC hiding?TSA demand answers!






























And refuse to answer questions to him!

[TSA]

Trump Misleads (LIES) on Russian Meddling: Why 17 Intelligence Agencies Don’t Need to Agree

WASHINGTON — President Trump said on Thursday that only “three or four” of the United States’ 17 intelligence agencies had concluded that Russia interfered in the presidential election — a statement that while technically accurate, is misleading and suggests widespread dissent among American intelligence agencies when none has emerged.

The “three or four” agencies referred to by Mr. Trump are the

Central Intelligence Agency (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/c/central_intelligence_agency/index.html?inline=nyt-org),

the National Security Agency (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/n/national_security_agency/index.html?inline=nyt-org),

the F.B.I. (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/f/federal_bureau_of_investigation/index.html?inline=nyt-org) and

the Office of the Director of National Intelligence,

all of which determined that Russia interfered in the election.

Their work was compiled into a report, and a declassified version was released on Jan. 6 by the director of national intelligence.

It said that

all four agencies had “high confidence (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/06/us/politics/russia-hack-report.html)” that Russian spies had tried to interfere in the election on the orders of President Vladimir V. Putin.

The reason the views of only those four intelligence agencies,

not all 17, were included in the assessment is simple:

They were the ones tracking and analyzing the Russian campaign. :lol

The rest were doing other work.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/06/us/politics/trump-russia-intelligence-agencies-cia-fbi-nsa.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

:lol NYT accusing anyone of misleading

New York Times, Associated Press Correct Claims That All 17 Intelligence Agencies Agreed on Russian Interference

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/new-york-times-associated-press-correct-claims-that-all-17-intelligence-agencies-agreed-on-russian-interference/

FRANKEN: The intelligence communities have concluded, all 17 of them, that Russia interfered with this election. And we all know how that’s right.

CLAPPER: Senator, as I pointed out in my statement, Senator Franken, it was—there were only three agencies that [were] directly involved in this assessment, plus my office.

FRANKEN: But all 17 signed onto that?

CLAPPER: Well, we didn’t go through that process. This was a special situation because of the time limits and my—what I knew to be who could really contribute to this and the sensitivity of the information, we decided—it was a conscious judgment—to restrict it to those three. I’m not aware of anyone who dissented, or disagreed when it came out.

[boutons_deux]

Let's see.

Rightwingnuts do not trust the Mueller/FBI to be "fair and balanced" about going after Trash and his accomplices. And when FBI incriminates Trash and entourage, the rightwingnuts, along with Trash and all Repugs, whine about "fake news"

BUT ...

Rightwingnuts expect the DNC to trust the FBI to go on a fishing expedition in DNC servers during the election.

I'm pretty sure the Dems knew there was misogynist wing of the FBI, esp in the NYC office, that HATED Hillary, which is one the reasons Comey had to preempt the NYC FBI office and trash Hillary twice on national TV.

[Reck]

:lol Boots being right for once.

FBI cannot be trusted per the TSAs of the world but want the DNC to give them their property anyways. Hypocrisy abounds.

[Pavlov]

U.S. President Trump said that he heard firm assertions from Russian President Putin that it is not true and that Russian authorities have not meddled in the elections. He said that he accepts these assertions. That's it.

Trump take it all and swallow with happily face.

[TSA]

:lol Boots being right for once.

FBI cannot be trusted per the TSAs of the world but want the DNC to give them their property anyways. Hypocrisy abounds.

Except boots isn't right.

The FBI hasn't incriminated Trump or any of his entourage so his claim is moot.
Comey spoke publicly about the ongoing investigation because the instructions from Lynch to refer to it as a "matter" made him uncomfortable.

Now that boots excuses have been shot down why do you think the DNC refused to let the FBI examine their servers?

[Reck]

Now that boots excuses have been shot down why do you think the DNC refused to let the FBI examine their servers?

Beats me.

But if they had a beef with the Crowd Strike report, why didn't they ask the DNC to provide them the servers so they can do their own research?

Again, the FBI was happy with the aforementioned report and analysis.

I guess it comes down to who you trust more as per the way this article puts it:


The DNC maintains there’s a simple answer to this question: According to the group, the FBI never asked to see their servers (https://www.buzzfeed.com/alimwatkins/the-fbi-never-asked-for-access-to-hacked-computer-servers?utm_term=.rkXRYd80x#.jp3Z3Yrv8). But FBI Director James Comey told the Senate Intelligence Committee back in January (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-director-comey-agency-requested-access-to-dnc-servers/) that the FBI did, in fact, issue “multiple requests at different levels” to the DNC to gain direct access to their computer systems and conduct their own forensic analysis.


perhaps the most astonishing thing about this probe is that a private firm’s investigation and attribution was deemed sufficient by both the DNC and the FBI.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2017/05/09/the_fbi_is_harder_to_trust_on_the_dnc_hack_because _it_relied_on_crowdstrike.html

[TSA]

Beats me.

But if they had a beef with the Crowd Strike report, why didn't they ask the DNC to provide them the servers so they can do their own research?

Again, the FBI was happy with the aforementioned report and analysis.

I guess it comes down to who you trust more as per the way this article puts it:





http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2017/05/09/the_fbi_is_harder_to_trust_on_the_dnc_hack_because _it_relied_on_crowdstrike.html

Comey testified under oath they were denied access.

I'll take the word of the head of the FBI over the exposed lying, cheating, manipulating DNC.

Who's word are you taking?

[Pavlov]

Comey testified under oath they were denied access.

I'll take the word of the head of the FBI over the exposed lying, cheating, manipulating DNC.

Who's word are you taking?TSA take Comey at his word.

Boom.

[Chris]

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19598993_149353835623801_4425408039205956573_n.jpg ?oh=d9e0ca2f59938321a68f2d7a920f867e&oe=5A0D454C

[Pavlov]

Explain picture Chris.

Connect dots.

[Chris]

Explain picture Chris.

Connect dots.

Solly Cholly...

You're on the list!

[Reck]

Comey testified under oath they were denied access.

I'll take the word of the head of the FBI over the exposed lying, cheating, manipulating DNC.

Who's word are you taking?

But admittedly you hadn't before so you're doing a complete 180 just because this time it suits your purpose to believe him?

If you're taking Comey's words as truth than you have to take him at his word when he testified about Trump being a sleezy person.

As for me, this is an easy call. The DNC has been exposed many times over by this point so their credibility is shit and untrustworthy.

[Pavlov]

Solly Cholly...

You're on the list!Aw, poor Chris scaredy pussy. Steal from old man in fear.

[DarrinS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StM4_sWik40


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNc9TMY9NkU

Now, kindly STFU

[TSA]

http://i64.tinypic.com/9vjndx.jpg

:lmao

[hater]

Putin is a slick mofo. Turned that tie around exactly showing it to the photographer

Bad ass


Also kremlin beatin white house to the punch on giving a public summary or the talks was hardcore move

[Reck]

Putin is a slick mofo. Turned that tie around exactly showing it to the photographer

Bad ass


Also kremlin beatin white house to the punch on giving a public summary or the talks was hardcore move

Hell yeah. Putin is 10 steps ahead of Trump. He has him eating from his hands. He's gonna have some fun.

[Pavlov]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StM4_sWik40


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNc9TMY9NkU

Now, kindly STFU
U.S. President Trump said that he heard firm assertions from Russian President Putin that it is not true and that Russian authorities have not meddled in the elections. He said that he accepts these assertions. That's it.:lmao stoogie Darrin

[boutons_deux]

Trump Team Met With Lawyer Linked to Kremlin During Campaign

Two weeks after Donald J. Trump clinched the Republican presidential nomination last year, his eldest son arranged a meeting at Trump Tower in Manhattan with a Russian lawyer who has connections to the Kremlin, according to confidential government records described to The New York Times.

The previously unreported meeting was also attended by Mr. Trump’s campaign chairman at the time, Paul J. Manafort, as well as the president’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, according to interviews and the documents, which were outlined by people familiar with them.

Representatives of Donald Trump Jr. and Mr. Kushner confirmed the meeting after The Times approached them with information about it. In a statement, Donald Jr. described the meeting as primarily about an adoption program.

The statement did not address whether the presidential campaign was discussed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/08/us/politics/trump-russia-kushner-manafort.html?_r=0&auth=login-smartlock

Childish Trash was offering himself to be adopted by Pootin

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