Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

[Pavlov]

.

[Reck]

Does Koriwhat have a thing for you Pav?

Same avatar and all. :lol

[boutons_deux]

Trump’s Lawyer’s Lawyer Now Says Trump’s Lawyer Wasn’t Actually Trump’s Lawyer


https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/03/michael-cohens-lawyer-suggests-that-michael-cohen-is-not-trumps-lawyer.html

[DarrinS]

https://www.gofundme.com/andrewmccabelegaldefensefund

[djohn2oo8]

https://www.gofundme.com/andrewmccabelegaldefensefund

and he made 500000 in one day.

[DarrinS]

and he made 500000 in one day.

http://www.savewalterwhite.com

[Pavlov]

https://www.gofundme.com/andrewmccabelegaldefensefundDid you give to Mike Flynn's fund?

[Chris]

Can you imagine some loser Liberal donating to the Andrew McCabe legal fund? :lmao "I'm making a difference!"

[Pavlov]

Can you imagine some loser Liberal donating to the Andrew McCabe legal fund? :lmao "I'm making a difference!"Did you give to Mike Flynn's fund?

[djohn2oo8]

Can you imagine some loser Liberal donating to the Andrew McCabe legal fund? :lmao "I'm making a difference!"

McCabe is a Republican. Chris again showing he can't wipe his own ass.

[boutons_deux]

Former Fox Host: 'There Is Indeed A Witch Hunt and It's Led By Fox Against Robert Mueller' (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/3/30/1753305/-Former-Fox-Host-There-Is-Indeed-A-Witch-Hunt-and-It-s-Led-By-Fox-Against-Robert-Mueller)

https://images.dailykos.com/images/324231/story_image/foxnews-peters-2.jpg?1478625595

Ralph Peters is a retired Army officer who was a Fox News commentator for a decade. Ten days ago he declined to renew his contract (https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/fox-news-commentator-exits-with-a-searing-attack-on-fox-news/2018/03/20/fc876fc4-2c81-11e8-8ad6-fbc50284fce8_story.html?utm_term=.6637359d6584) with Fox,

an impassioned internal memo (https://www.buzzfeed.com/tomnamako/ralph-peters?utm_term=.vpMYeEYYzJ#.xfVRJNRRBx) which was leaked, decrying the network as a propaganda machine and saying that Peters was ashamed to be there.

He’s not a rat leaving the ship, he made clear, rather, “the best sailors were driven overboard by the rodents.

I was the one person on the Fox payroll who, trained in Russian studies and the Russian language, had been face to face with Russian intelligence officers in the Kremlin and in far-flung provinces. I have traveled widely in and written extensively about the region.

Yet I could only rarely and briefly comment on the paramount security question of our time: whether Putin and his security services ensnared the man who would become our president.

Trump’s behavior patterns and evident weaknesses (financial entanglements, lack of self-control and sense of sexual entitlement) would have made him an ideal blackmail target — and the Russian security apparatus plays a long game.

As indictments piled up, though, I could not even discuss the mechanics of how the Russians work on either Fox News or Fox Business. [...]

All Americans, whatever their politics, should want to know, with certainty, whether

a hostile power has our president and those close to him in thrall.

This isn’t about party but about our security at the most profound level. Every so often, I could work in a comment on the air, but even the best-disposed hosts were wary of transgressing the party line.

Fox never tried to put words in my mouth, nor was I told explicitly that I was taboo on Trump-Putin matters.

I simply was no longer called on for topics central to my expertise.

I was relegated to Groundhog Day analysis of North Korea and the Middle East, or to Russia-related news that didn’t touch the administration.

Listening to political hacks with no knowledge of things Russian tell the vast Fox audience that

the special counsel’s investigation was a “witch hunt,”

while I could not respond, became too much to bear.

There is indeed a witch hunt, and it’s led by Fox against Robert Mueller.




Peters also said this about the deterioration of the network in recent years:


You could measure the decline of Fox News by the drop in the quality of guests waiting in the green room.

A year and a half ago, you might have heard George Will discussing policy with a senator while a former Cabinet member listened in.

Today, you would meet a Republican commissar with a steakhouse waistline and

an eager young woman wearing too little fabric and too much makeup, immersed in memorizing her talking points.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/3/30/1753305/-Former-Fox-Host-There-Is-Indeed-A-Witch-Hunt-and-It-s-Led-By-Fox-Against-Robert-Mueller?detail=emaildkre

[boutons_deux]

News about Mueller investigation shows collusion between Trump and Russia is still the primary focus (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/3/30/1753205/-News-about-Mueller-investigation-shows-collusion-between-Trump-and-Russia-is-still-the-primary-focus)

while Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee may have purposely looked away (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/3/19/1750284/-Mike-Conaway-isn-t-sure-if-House-Republicans-looked-for-collusion-but-he-s-sure-they-didn-t-find-it)

after deciding that they “really weren’t focused” on collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign,

Robert Mueller really is focused on exactly that topic.

What the most recent leaks out of the investigation reveal is that:



The focus of the deal between Mueller and Rick Gates wasn’t about what Gates could provide on Paul Manafort, but what Gates could provide on the subject of collusion within the campaign.

Mueller apparently felt that the case against Manafort was tight enough that he really didn’t need Gates help to put away Manafort—who is now facing a 32-count indictment on everything from money laundering to conspiracy to defraud.

One of the first items to surface, the meetings between Sessions and former Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak, continues to be a core interest of Mueller.


there were frequent communications between staff members on his campaign and Russian officials.

That includes

George Papadopoulos,
Carter Page,
Donald Trump Jr.,
Paul Manafort,
Jared Kushner,
Mike Flynn,
Rick Gates,
Roger Stone, and
Jefferson Sessions
at a minimum.

Collusion? There was collusion.

Whether that collusion rises to the level of a chargeable conspiracy against the United States …

that’s what Mueller is deciding now.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/3/30/1753205/-News-about-Mueller-investigation-shows-collusion-between-Trump-and-Russia-is-still-the-primary-focus?detail=emaildkre

[Reck]

Did you give to Mike Flynn's fund?

Do you have to ask? Citizen X is very liberal in parting with his money foolishly.

[Chris]

New spin from MSNBC is Mueller has been tied up with the obstruction thingy and is just now moving on to Russia:lmao

[Chris]

TSA


X1e3orUUsq4


:tu

[Chris]

Maddow excited about McCabe because she was wrong about DRUMPF getting elected and got embarrassed trying to expose his tax returns. These people are so sick.


979469170273374208

[Pavlov]

Maddow excited about McCabe because she was wrong about DRUMPF getting elected and got embarrassed trying to expose his tax returns. These people are so sick.


979469170273374208lol white Chris triggered by Maddow and McCabe in one tweet.

Whatever you do don't look at the total now, white Chris!

[boutons_deux]

‘A storm is coming’: GOP consultant warns Trump he needs a better legal team or he’ll face impeachment

GOP consultant Alex Castellanos warned President Donald Trump he needs to lawyer up with better attorneys

if he hopes to fend off special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation and possible impeachment.

Speaking with host George Stephanopoulos,

Democratic consultant Donna Brazile surprisingly had a few nice things to say about Trump before adding that

his lawyers are lacking, :lol no shit!

based upon all the chaos of the past week.

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/04/storm-coming-gop-consultant-warns-trump-needs-better-legal-team-hell-face-impeachment/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[Pavlov]

‘A storm is coming’: GOP consultant warnsA storm? Holy crap! This guy is Q!

https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/castellanos.jpg

[Chris]

Pavlov extra concerned these days. :lol

[Reck]

Pavlov extra concerned these days. :lol

About?

[RandomGuy]

lol white Chris triggered by Maddow and McCabe in one tweet.

Whatever you do don't look at the total now, white Chris!

He will have to pay taxes on that, so getting five times more than he originally asked is a good thing.

[RandomGuy]

Still not a single person indicted for Trump/Russia election collusion.

keep moving those goal posts.

[RandomGuy]

By Ralph Peters March 30

Ralph Peters is a retired Army officer, a former enlisted man and a prize-winning author of historical fiction.

You could measure the decline of Fox News by the drop in the quality of guests waiting in the green room. A year and a half ago, you might have heard George Will discussing policy with a senator while a former Cabinet member listened in. Today, you would meet a Republican commissar with a steakhouse waistline and an eager young woman wearing too little fabric and too much makeup, immersed in memorizing her talking points.

This wasn’t a case of the rats leaving a sinking ship. The best sailors were driven overboard by the rodents.

As I wrote in an internal Fox memo, leaked and widely disseminated, I declined to renew my contract as Fox News’s strategic analyst because of the network’s propagandizing for the Trump administration. Today’s Fox prime-time lineup preaches paranoia, attacking processes and institutions vital to our republic and challenging the rule of law.

Four decades ago, as a U.S. Army second lieutenant, I took an oath to “support and defend the Constitution.” In moral and ethical terms, that oath never expires. As Fox’s assault on our constitutional order intensified, spearheaded by its after-dinner demagogues, I had no choice but to leave.

My error was waiting so long to walk away. The chance to speak to millions of Americans is seductive, and, with the infinite human capacity for self-delusion, I rationalized that I could make a difference by remaining at Fox and speaking honestly.

I was wrong.

As early as the fall of 2016, and especially as doubts mounted about the new Trump administration’s national security vulnerabilities, I increasingly was blocked from speaking on the issues about which I could offer real expertise: Russian affairs and our intelligence community. I did not hide my views at Fox and, as word spread that I would not unswervingly support President Trump and, worse, that I believed an investigation into Russian interference was essential to our national security, I was excluded from segments that touched on Vladimir Putin’s possible influence on an American president, his campaign or his administration.

I was the one person on the Fox payroll who, trained in Russian studies and the Russian language, had been face to face with Russian intelligence officers in the Kremlin and in far-flung provinces. I have traveled widely in and written extensively about the region. Yet I could only rarely and briefly comment on the paramount security question of our time: whether Putin and his security services ensnared the man who would become our president. Trump’s behavior patterns and evident weaknesses (financial entanglements, lack of self-control and sense of sexual entitlement) would have made him an ideal blackmail target — and the Russian security apparatus plays a long game.


As indictments piled up, though, I could not even discuss the mechanics of how the Russians work on either Fox News or Fox Business. (Asked by a Washington Post editor for a comment, Fox’s public relations department sent this statement: “There is no truth to the notion that Ralph Peters was ‘blocked’ from appearing on the network to talk about the major headlines, including discussing Russia, North Korea and even gun control recently. In fact, he appeared across both networks multiple times in just the past three weeks.”)

All Americans, whatever their politics, should want to know, with certainty, whether a hostile power has our president and those close to him in thrall. This isn’t about party but about our security at the most profound level. Every so often, I could work in a comment on the air, but even the best-disposed hosts were wary of transgressing the party line.

Fox never tried to put words in my mouth, nor was I told explicitly that I was taboo on Trump-Putin matters. I simply was no longer called on for topics central to my expertise. I was relegated to Groundhog Day analysis of North Korea and the Middle East, or to Russia-related news that didn’t touch the administration. Listening to political hacks with no knowledge of things Russian tell the vast Fox audience that the special counsel’s investigation was a “witch hunt,” while I could not respond, became too much to bear. There is indeed a witch hunt, and it’s led by Fox against Robert Mueller.

The cascade of revelations about the Russia-related crimes of Trump associates was dismissed, adamantly, as “fake news” by prime-time hosts who themselves generate fake news blithely.

Then there was Fox’s assault on our intelligence community — in which I had served, from the dirty-boots tactical level to strategic work in the Pentagon (with forays that stretched from Russia through Pakistan to Burma and Bolivia and elsewhere). Opportunities to explain how the system actually works, how stringent the safeguards are and that intelligence personnel are responsible public servants — sometimes heroes — dried up after an on-air confrontation shortly before Trump’s inauguration with a popular (and populist) host, Lou Dobbs.

Dobbs has no experience with the intelligence system. Yet he ranted about its reputed assaults on our privacy and other alleged misdeeds (if you want to know who spies on you, it’s the FGA — Facebook, Google and Amazon — not the NSA). When I insisted that the men and women who work in our intelligence agencies are patriots who keep us safe, the host reddened and demanded, “Patriotism is the last refuge of the — you fill in the blank.” As I sought to explain that, no, the NSA isn’t listening to our pillow talk, Dobbs kept repeating, “Patriotism is the last refuge of the — fill in the blank.”

Because I’d had a long, positive history with Dobbs, I refrained from replying: “Patriotism is the last refuge of the talk-show host.”

I became a disgruntled employee, limited to topics on which I agreed with the Trump administration, such as loosened targeting restrictions on terrorists and a tough line with North Korea. Over the past few months, it reached the point where I hated walking into the Fox studio. Friends and family encouraged me to leave, convinced that I embarrassed myself by remaining with the network (to be fair, I’m perfectly capable of embarrassing myself without assistance from Fox).

During my 10 years at Fox News and Fox Business, I did my best to be a forthright voice. I angered left and right. I criticized President Barack Obama fiercely (one infelicity resulted in a two-week suspension), but I also argued for sensible gun-control measures and environmental protections. I made mistakes, but they were honest mistakes. I took the opportunity to speak to millions of Americans seriously and — still that earnest young second lieutenant to some degree — could not imagine lying to them.

With my Soviet-studies background, the cult of Trump unnerves me. For our society’s health, no one, not even a president, can be above criticism — or the law.


I must stress that there are many honorable and talented professionals at the Fox channels, superb reporters, some gutsy hosts, and adept technicians and staff. But Trump idolaters and the merrily hypocritical prime-time hosts are destroying the network — no matter how profitable it may remain.

The day my memo leaked, a journalist asked me how I felt. Usually quick with a reply, I struggled, amid a cyclone of emotions, to think of the right words. After perhaps 30 seconds of silence, I said, “Free.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/why-i-left-fox-news/2018/03/30/

[boutons_deux]

Fox mgmt and its investors dont care about Fox News destroyed editorially as long as the profits are incoming

I would be surprised if Fox ever changed direction that shitbag sexual predator defined, or even if it can

[Blake]

Blake gonna need a thread posts count for DJohn2oo8 vs. me. Get on that, cuck.

It's an easy to use message board feature. You're pretty retarded, huh.

[Blake]

A storm? Holy crap! This guy is Q!

https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/castellanos.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/3a/Q_portrait.jpg/220px-Q_portrait.jpg

Hmm. I could see it

[djohn2oo8]

Trump again attacking the DOJ/FBI, you know the ones who work to keep people safe, even Darrin. Not a single bad word about Putin.

[djohn2oo8]

980887602759860224
:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

980889004047523843
:lmao :lmao :lmao

[Chris]

Sniffing Stone's underwear now? Mueller is pathetic. :lmao

[Pavlov]

Sniffing Stone's underwear now? Mueller is pathetic. :lmaoWhy do you care about Roger Stone?

[djohn2oo8]

980900370414174209
lawd!

[Chris]

Why do you care about Roger Stone?

Why does Mueller care about Roger Stone?

[Pavlov]

Why does Mueller care about Roger Stone?Because Stone said he met with Assange.

[Chris]

Because Stone said he met with Assange.

So what?

[Pavlov]

So what?You really can't figure it out, White Chris?

[Brazil]

14%?

:lmao

[Chris]

*white flag

[Pavlov]

So what?Assange is the head of Wikileaks.

[djohn2oo8]

Sessions threw up the white flag on a 2nd special counsel.

[Pavlov]

Sessions threw up the white flag on a 2nd special counsel.NO HE DIDN'T KEEP HOPE ALIVE FOR SOME REASON

[Chris]

Sessions threw up the white flag on a 2nd special counsel.

Who is John Huber?

[Pavlov]

Who is John Huber?He is explicitly not a Special Counsel.

[djohn2oo8]

Uh oh. Chris seems to be in trouble with his diarrhea acting up. Dire situation.

[Chris]

He is explicitly not a Special Counsel.

Explicitly :lol

You always answer for dodgerjohn and Reck likes to answer for you. Hivemind :lol

[Pavlov]

Explicitly :lol

You always answer for dodgerjohn and Reck likes to answer for you. Hivemind :lolAnd yet you can't dispute my answer.

We accept your white flag.

[Chris]

Assange is the head of Wikileaks.

So what?

[Chris]

And yet you can't dispute my answer.

We accept your white flag.

You just want to change the subject because you don't know why Mueller is going after Stone. SAD!

[Pavlov]

So what?Wikileaks released the emails that were stolen from the Democrats.

[RandomGuy]

Wikileaks released the emails that were stolen from the Democrats.[by Russian intelligence services]

FIFY.

[Pavlov]

FIFY.I figure he would say "so what?" again and we'd get around to it.

The end result is this: It's Mueller's job to investigate Roger Stone.

[Chris]

Wikileaks released the emails that were stolen from the Democrats.

Wikileaks has been releasing documents long before the Democrats got 'hacked' (Seth Rich) Do you think Stone gave the emails to Assange? :lmao

[Pavlov]

Wikileaks has been releasing documents long before the Democrats got 'hacked' (Seth Rich) Do you think Stone gave the emails to Assange? :lmaoNo.

What makes you say Seth Rich did it?

Show your evidence.

[RandomGuy]

I figure he would say "so what?" again and we'd get around to it.

The end result is this: It's Mueller's job to investigate Roger Stone.

You called it.

[Chris]

No.

What makes you say Seth Rich did it?

Show your evidence.

So why is Mueller investigating Stone? We came full circle and you tried to change the subject again. So Assange is head of wikileaks and he published the emails. Then what?

[Pavlov]

So why is Mueller investigating Stone?It's his job.

Read his mandate.

I'll wait for you to post it to prove you read it.

[Chris]

*YUGE white flag


:lmao

[Pavlov]

:lmaoNope, it's on subject.

Your question has been answered.

Russians steal emails.

Stone contacts Assange.

Assange posts emails.

Mueller investigates Stone.

Pretty simple.

[Chris]

Nope, it's on subject.

Your question has been answered.

Russians steal emails.

Stone contacts Assange.

Assange posts emails.

Mueller investigates Stone.

Pretty simple.

So everyone that contacted Assange should be investigated by Mueller?

lol Pavlov

[Pavlov]

So everyone that contacted Assange should be investigated by Mueller?

lol PavlovEveryone involved in the Trump campaign, yes.

Definitely.

Why would he not investigate people involved in the Trump campaign who contacted Assange?

List your reasons, White Chris.

[djohn2oo8]

:lmao

[Brazil]

:lmao 14%

[Chris]

Everyone involved in the Trump campaign, yes.

Definitely.

Why would he not investigate people involved in the Trump campaign who contacted Assange?

List your reasons, White Chris.

Fair enough, but this is starting to sound like McCarthyism. Stone contacting Assange does little to warrant an investigation, that's why I was hoping you could clarify that for me. Looks like a witch hunt to me.

[djohn2oo8]

https://mikecaulfield.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/dahzhxxumaazmnw.jpg?w=676

[Blake]

Lol

[Pavlov]

Fair enough, but this is starting to sound like McCarthyism. Stone contacting Assange does little to warrant an investigation, that's why I was hoping you could clarify that for me. Looks like a witch hunt to me.
Actually that is a compelling reason to investigate Stone. I'm open to your reasons why he shouldn't, if you have any.

[Chris]

Actually that is a compelling reason to investigate Stone. I'm open to your reasons why he shouldn't, if you have any.

Nothing compelling at all unless you have some sort of wrongdoing which I can't see and you can't clarify. So far all we got is he contacted Assange. Nothing compelling about that.

[spurraider21]

Nothing compelling at all unless you have some sort of wrongdoing which I can't see and you can't clarify. So far all we got is he contacted Assange. Nothing compelling about that.
So in an investigation into Russian interference and potential collusion with the Trump campaign, you don't think they should look into a guy who was part of the Trump campaign and was in contact with the organization that ultimately released information that is believed to have been acquired by Russians aiming to interfere with the election?

[Pavlov]

Nothing compelling at all unless you have some sort of wrongdoing which I can't see and you can't clarify. So far all we got is he contacted Assange. Nothing compelling about that.The wrongdoing is the stealing and leaking of emails. Stone said he contacted the Assange between the time the Democrats' emails were stolen and the time Assange leaked them.

Explain why Mueller shouldn't investigate this.

[Chris]

So in an investigation into Russian interference and potential collusion with the Trump campaign, you don't think they should look into a guy who was part of the Trump campaign and was in contact with the organization that ultimately released information that is believed to have been acquired by Russians aiming to interfere with the election?

What Russian interference? Are you suggesting collusion is a crime? We know who hacked the DNC and why. Neither of you can tell me one thing that Roger Stone did that was wrong or should be investigated. Absolutely nothing.

[Pavlov]

What Russian interference? Are you suggesting collusion is a crime? We know who hacked the DNC and why. Neither of you can tell me one thing that Roger Stone did that was wrong or should be investigated. Absolutely nothing.Chris, the order is investigate, then charge, then try the case.

You want Mueller to prove Stone's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt before he even investigates Stone.

:lol white Chris.

[Spurminator]

Wrong thread.

[Reck]

980900370414174209
lawd!

Remember those times TSA said Van Der Swaan was a nobody?

:lmao

[Chris]

Zzzzz zzz

[Pavlov]

Zzzzz zzzYou still haven't explained why Mueller needs to prove Stone's guilt before he can investigate him.

[Spurminator]

https://giphy.com/gifs/funny-cartoon-ib9h1mFOPCLWUhttps://m.popkey.co/fc863b/Zmmvk_s-200x150.gif?c=popkey-web&p=popkey&i=emoji--reactions&l=search&f=.gif

[Chris]

You still haven't explained why Mueller needs to prove Stone's guilt before he can investigate him.

No good reason for investigating him. "Because he talked to Assange" doesn't fly. I've already explained to you that it's McCarthyism. You have no idea why Mueller is investigating Stone.

[Pavlov]

No good reason for investigating him. "Because he talked to Assange" doesn't fly. I've already explained to you that it's McCarthyism. You have no idea why Mueller is investigating Stone.:lol I just told you exactly why he is investigating Stone.

You have no idea what McCarthyism is either.

[spurraider21]

would be a pretty funny system if the convictions had to come before investigations

[djohn2oo8]

Remember those times TSA said Van Der Swaan was a nobody?

:lmao

Yes. Another TSA prediction gone wrong.

[djohn2oo8]

Chris. Look up the definition of McCarthyism.

[djohn2oo8]

981019141787340800
That's quite a bit blacked out.

[Pavlov]

981019141787340800
That's quite a bit blacked out.Lordy!

[djohn2oo8]

980922658157158401

[Chris]

:lol I just told you exactly why he is investigating Stone.

You have no idea what McCarthyism is either.


Chris. Look up the definition of McCarthyism.

Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dumb :lol

[Chris]

981019141787340800
That's quite a bit blacked out.

lmao Pwn all the things

[Chris]

Mueller has nothing. Roger Stone :lol can't wait for IG report and Huber Time.

[Pavlov]

Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dumb :lolYeah, you're not giving your definition of McCarthyism.

[Reck]

Mueller has nothing. Roger Stone :lol can't wait for IG report and Huber Time.

Wow. You're becoming delusional and unhinged.

What happens when Mueller ends his investigation with Trump by the balls? We will all be here as a support group, Chris, dont worry.

[Chris]

Wow. You're becoming delusional and unhinged.

What happens when Mueller ends his investigation with Trump by the balls? We will all be here as a support group, Chris, dont worry.

Mueller has nothing and is in full cover up mode. He's already made his redactions to the texts which still haven't been released. You're in denial and have gone full on Homer for Robert Mueller. The same guy who helped sell weapons of mass destruction for Dubya. Hilarious!

[AaronY]

You guys are getting dominated by Chris itt.

Think about that

[djohn2oo8]

981118662676504577

[djohn2oo8]

You guys are getting dominated by Chris itt.

Think about that

Yeah sure. By a guy who doesn't know the definition of Mccarthyism.

[djohn2oo8]

981118662676504577

981126184837746689
981127819429384193
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981131243533332481

Lordy!

[boutons_deux]

Of all the people Trash could have chosen as campaign mgr, he "accidentally", "unknowingly" chose a guy employed by Pootin's puppet in Ukraine, with Russians more generally.

Same with Wilbur Ross

[djohn2oo8]

980981115258359808
lol Kushner

[Blake]

lmao Pwn all the things

Lmao trying to reverse make fun of twitter handles after pimping Chuck Woolery

[djohn2oo8]

981181114327994368
TSA "nothing to do with Russia" theory shot dead again.

[TSA]

981181114327994368
TSA "nothing to do with Russia" theory shot dead again.

BREAKING: MUELLER LOOKING INTO CAMPAIGN COLLUSION WITH RUSSIA :rollin



Still not a single mention in any indictment concerning Trump campaign colluding with Russia during the election.

But hey Mueller got someone sentenced for something totally unrelated to the campaign :bobo :lol


"Prosecutors said van der Zwaan had lied and covered it up, trying to destroy emails. They asked that he be sentenced to some time behind bars as a "general deterrent" but did not make a specific recommendation as to the length.

The case did not involve Mueller's central mission of examining potential help for Russian election meddling. It instead grew out of the investigation of two former Trump campaign aides, Paul Manafort and Richard Gates, over work they did in Ukraine more than a decade ago."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/attorney-alex-van-der-zwaan-first-person-sentenced-mueller-probe-n862186

[Pavlov]

TSA thinks Mueller would lead with collusion indictments because he's working with Trump to expose Democrats.

Right?

[djohn2oo8]

TSA thinks Mueller would lead with collusion indictments because he's working with Trump to expose Democrats.

Right?

:lmao

[RandomGuy]

[no indictment of someone for something that happened during the campaign schtick]

Pizzaboichik, that is the ground you want to die on? Really? :rollin

No idea what is going to shake out, but you will never hear the end of it, if an indictment happens. I have zero doubt you will move the goalposts again.

[djohn2oo8]

Van der Zwann gives info to Mueller and team. Sentenced to 30 days and a 20k fine. Faces deportation.

[TSA]

Van der Zwann gives info to Mueller and team. Sentenced to 30 days and a 20k fine. Faces deportation.The info he gave to Mueller had nothing to do with the election :rollin


"Prosecutors said van der Zwaan had lied to federal agents and covered it up, trying to destroy emails. They had asked that he be sentenced to some time behind bars as a "general deterrent" but did not make a specific recommendation as to the length.

The van der Zwaan case did not involve Mueller's central mission of examining potential help for Russian election meddling in 2016. Instead, it grew out of the investigation of Gates and former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort, over work they did in Ukraine more than a decade ago."

"As a lawyer in an international law firm, van der Zwaan worked with Gates and Manafort for a Ukrainian political party closely aligned with Russia. The law firm, Skadden, Arps, Meagher & Flom, was hired by the government of former Ukrainian President Victor Yanukovych in 2012 to examine the prosecution of one of his former political rivals.

The firm's work was supposed to be independent of the lobbying by Manafort and Gates, but van der Zwaan leaked a copy of the report and talking points to Gates and lied about later conversations in 2016 with Gates about how the firm was paid and potential criminal charges against the firm in Ukraine."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/attorney-alex-van-der-zwaan-first-person-sentenced-mueller-probe-n862186

[TSA]

Pizzaboichik, that is the ground you want to die on? Really? :rollin

No idea what is going to shake out, but you will never hear the end of it, if an indictment happens. I have zero doubt you will move the goalposts again.

And when no indictments happen concerning Trump/Russia election collusion what will you do? Will you admit you were taken a fool and pushed the DNC propaganda? What will that say about you? Will you take some time for self reflection?

[AaronY]

You know DJohn's got like a dual monitor setup sitting home scrolling the multiple "muh russia!" Twitter feeds like that guy watching the robot codes in the matrix movie

[AaronY]

The answer is in there somewhere!

http://i.stack.imgur.com/ibqNP.jpg

[djohn2oo8]

You know DJohn's got like a dual monitor setup sitting home scrolling the multiple "muh russia!" Twitter feeds like that guy watching the robot codes in the matrix movie

And you keep coming back don't you? Yeah you're my bitch.

[djohn2oo8]

The info he gave to Mueller had nothing to do with the election :rollin


"Prosecutors said van der Zwaan had lied to federal agents and covered it up, trying to destroy emails. They had asked that he be sentenced to some time behind bars as a "general deterrent" but did not make a specific recommendation as to the length.

The van der Zwaan case did not involve Mueller's central mission of examining potential help for Russian election meddling in 2016. Instead, it grew out of the investigation of Gates and former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort, over work they did in Ukraine more than a decade ago."

"As a lawyer in an international law firm, van der Zwaan worked with Gates and Manafort for a Ukrainian political party closely aligned with Russia. The law firm, Skadden, Arps, Meagher & Flom, was hired by the government of former Ukrainian President Victor Yanukovych in 2012 to examine the prosecution of one of his former political rivals.

The firm's work was supposed to be independent of the lobbying by Manafort and Gates, but van der Zwaan leaked a copy of the report and talking points to Gates and lied about later conversations in 2016 with Gates about how the firm was paid and potential criminal charges against the firm in Ukraine."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/attorney-alex-van-der-zwaan-first-person-sentenced-mueller-probe-n862186

The meltdown is real. Sorry your "nothing to do with the election" theory is dead and gone.

[djohn2oo8]

And when no indictments happen concerning Trump/Russia election collusion what will you do? Will you admit you were taken a fool and pushed the DNC propaganda? What will that say about you? Will you take some time for self reflection?

Wanna know whose indictment did not happen? Susan Rice.

[TSA]

The meltdown is real. Sorry your "nothing to do with the election" theory is dead and gone.

van der Zwaan had nothing to do with the election.


The van der Zwaan case did not involve Mueller's central mission of examining potential help for Russian election meddling in 2016. Instead, it grew out of the investigation of Gates and former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort, over work they did in Ukraine more than a decade ago.

My "nothing to do with the election" theory is still 100% correct.

[TSA]

Wanna know whose indictment did not happen? Susan Rice.

Wanna know who is still not in prison? Trump, Trump Jr, Ivanka, Kushner.

Wanna know who is going to make an easy $2000?

<<<<<<

[djohn2oo8]

van der Zwaan had nothing to do with the election.


The van der Zwaan case did not involve Mueller's central mission of examining potential help for Russian election meddling in 2016. Instead, it grew out of the investigation of Gates and former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort, over work they did in Ukraine more than a decade ago.

My "nothing to do with the election" theory is still 100% correct.

Your manafort thery dead now you're on to VDZ. Sorry TSA. We are on another day that Trump is not cleared.

[djohn2oo8]

Wanna know who is still not in prison? Trump, Trump Jr, Ivanka, Kushner.

Wanna know who is going to make an easy $2000?

<<<<<<
Prison comes before indictments? When did that happen?

[TSA]

Your manafort thery dead now you're on to VDZ. Sorry TSA. We are on another day that Trump is not cleared.

Nothing in Manafort's indictment had anything to do with Trump/Russia election collusion.

Only a dipshit like yourself would think that Mueller investigating Manafort for election collusion is BREAKING NEWS :lol That is what Mueller has been tasked to do for almost a year.

[djohn2oo8]

Nothing in Manafort's indictment had anything to do with Trump/Russia election collusion.

Only a dipshit like yourself would think that Mueller investigating Manafort for election collusion is BREAKING NEWS :lol That is what Mueller has been tasked to do for almost a year.
Rosenstein's memo cleary has other charges and allegations redacted. You're upset. Your world is crashing down. Not to mention the memo itself authorized Mueller to investigate Manafort for collusion.

[RandomGuy]

And when no indictments happen concerning Trump/Russia election collusion what will you do? Will you admit you were taken a fool and pushed the DNC propaganda? What will that say about you? Will you take some time for self reflection?

I haven't planted my flag on repeatedly saying there will be indictments. Given the riven corruption and incompetence that seems attracted to Trump, I would be surprised if none were forthcoming.

I, as always, prefer evidence, and modify my model of reality based on as objective a reading of available information as possible. I self-reflect all the time.

You however, pick yourself up out of the dungheap after falling face first, then leap to the next with both hands grasping. It is amusing.

[TSA]

Prison comes before indictments? When did that happen?

Wanna know who is still not indicted? Trump, Trump Jr, Ivanka, Kushner.

[djohn2oo8]

Wanna know who is still not indicted? Trump, Trump Jr, Ivanka, Kushner.
:lmao :lmao :lmao holy shit that goalpost move :rollin

[djohn2oo8]

Wanna know who is still not indicted? Trump, Trump Jr, Ivanka, Kushner.
You forgot to add Susan Rice.

[TSA]

I haven't planted my flag on repeatedly saying there will be indictments. Given the riven corruption and incompetence that seems attracted to Trump, I would be surprised if none were forthcoming.

I, as always, prefer evidence, and modify my model of reality based on as objective a reading of available information as possible. I self-reflect all the time.

You however, pick yourself up out of the dungheap after falling face first, then leap to the next with both hands grasping. It is amusing.

You sure as fuck picked up that flag and marched with the Trump/Russia election collusion conspiracy theory. When no indictments happen concerning Trump/Russia election collusion will you admit you taken a fool and pushed the DNC propaganda? What will that say about you?

[djohn2oo8]

BTW, Mueller's office has said Van Der Zwann has information that is not known to the public. Lordy!

[TSA]

Rosenstein's memo cleary has other charges and allegations redacted. You're upset. Your world is crashing down. Not to mention the memo itself authorized Mueller to investigate Manafort for collusion.

Of course Mueller was authorized to investigate Manafort for collusion, that is what he was put there to do. This isn't breaking news.

:lol my world is crashing down
:lol zero indictments concerning Trump/Russia election collusion

You tell me who's world is really crashing down 800+ page OP

[djohn2oo8]

Of course Mueller was authorized to investigate Manafort for collusion, that is what he was put there to do. This isn't breaking news.

:lol my world is crashing down
:lol zero indictments concerning Trump/Russia election collusion

You tell me who's world is really crashing down 800+ page OP
Yet you said Manafort had nothing to do with collusion? Lordy!

[TSA]

BTW, Mueller's office has said Van Der Zwann has information that is not known to the public. Lordy!

BREAKING: THE PUBLIC DOES NOT KNOW SOME OF THE INFORMATION THE SPECIAL COUNSEL HAS GATHERED

:lmao

[TSA]

Yet you said Manafort had nothing to do with collusion? Lordy!

Manafort's indictment says NOTHING about collusion during the election. Are you being obtuse or are you just a flustered retard?

[djohn2oo8]

BREAKING: THE PUBLIC DOES NOT KNOW SOME OF THE INFORMATION THE SPECIAL COUNSEL HAS GATHERED

:lmao
So why do you claim to know it has nothing to do with the election? Lordy!

[djohn2oo8]

Manafort's indictment says NOTHING about collusion during the election. Are you being obtuse or are you just a flustered retard?
And in Rosenstein's memo, there are redacted charges and allegations there that are still classified.

[djohn2oo8]

http://forgifs.com/gallery/d/279639-2/Punch-Matrix-dodge.gif

Let the anger out TSA.

[TSA]

http://forgifs.com/gallery/d/279639-2/Punch-Matrix-dodge.gif
djohn attempting to show Trump/Russia election collusion

[djohn2oo8]

http://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1803037/post-19398-Camelot-Alvarez-dodges-punches-1o0P.gif

Every single TSA conspiracy attempt

[spurraider21]

TSA with the all caps, large font, and emoji posts. and he's the one who likes to point out "nervous laughter"

[Pavlov]

TSA with the all caps, large font, and emoji posts. and he's the one who likes to point out "nervous laughter"Anything to keep from talking about the Roger Stone investigation.

[Chris]

The meltdown is real. Sorry your "nothing to do with the election" theory is dead and gone.


van der Zwaan had nothing to do with the election.


The van der Zwaan case did not involve Mueller's central mission of examining potential help for Russian election meddling in 2016. Instead, it grew out of the investigation of Gates and former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort, over work they did in Ukraine more than a decade ago.

My "nothing to do with the election" theory is still 100% correct.


Djohn :lmao

[djohn2oo8]

Anything to keep from talking about the Roger Stone investigation.

The whole guccifer 2.0 fail hit too close to home for him.

[djohn2oo8]

Djohn :lmao

Chris. Define Mccarthyism.

[spurraider21]

Chris. Define Mccarthyism.
Whatever Mueller is doing.

-Chris

[TSA]

TSA with the all caps, large font, and emoji posts. and he's the one who likes to point out "nervous laughter"

http://forgifs.com/gallery/d/279639-2/Punch-Matrix-dodge.gif

[djohn2oo8]

Whatever Mueller is doing.

-Chris

:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

http://forgifs.com/gallery/d/279639-2/Punch-Matrix-dodge.gif

Damn you rattled son.

[TSA]

Anything to keep from talking about the Roger Stone investigation.

What do you want to talk about? Stone never meeting with Assange? Stone never leaving the country in 2016? Wikileaks telling Stone to stop the false claims of association?

[Chris]

981171343105429505

Time to shut her down.

[djohn2oo8]

981171343105429505

Time to shut her down.

Chris. Define McCarthyism.

[djohn2oo8]

What do you want to talk about? Stone never meeting with Assange? Stone never leaving the country in 2016? Wikileaks telling Stone to stop the false claims of association?

Stone said in an email that he dined with him.

[spurraider21]

lol just trying to find every opportunity to use the word collusion

[djohn2oo8]

BTW, TSA, why are you believing Wikileaks?

[Chris]

chirp chirp

[TSA]

Stone said in an email that he dined with him.

Assange shut Stone down. Wikileaks shut Stone down. Stone shut Stone down.

"Stone served as an adviser on President Donald Trump's presidential campaign, and according to The WSJ report, Stone said in an email on August 4, 2016, that he had "dined with Julian Assange last night."
However, Stone has denied ever meeting Assange.
In a text exchange on Friday before the WSJ report, Stone said he "never met or spoke with Assange ever," and Stone told The Journal the contents of the email were "said in jest."

Stone also noted that his passport showed that he did not leave the country in 2016."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/02/politics/roger-stone-wikileaks-meeting-special-counsel/index.html

[spurraider21]

981171343105429505

Time to shut her down.
:lmao Gregg Jarrett


Manafort’s interpretation of the regulations and the language and effect of the Appointment Order is unsound.

1. In arguing that his charged conduct falls outside of the Appointment Order, Manafortassumes that the Order contains the full and complete “factual statement” provided to the SpecialCounsel upon his appointment.

Doc. 235 at 17 (“The ‘[o]riginal jurisdiction’ conveyed in theAppointment Order includes language that resembles a ‘specific factual statement of the matter tobe investigated.’”) (quoting 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a)).

But nothing in the regulations requires that the“specific factual statement” be provided publicly, or in the order appointing the Special Counsel.Cf. Cyan, Inc. v. Beaver County Employees Retirement Fund, No. 15-1439, 2018 WL 1384564,at *3 (S. Ct. Mar. 20, 2018) (“The [regulation] says what it says—or perhaps better put here, doesnot say what it does not say.”). And the Acting Attorney General has explained that he transmitted the facts to the Special Counsel non-publicly here. Rosenstein Testimony at 29-30; August 2 Scope

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4429556-Response-to-motion.html

https://media.giphy.com/media/l0ErLeqamV3UOARsA/giphy.gif

[Chris]

"but he met with Assange I know it!"

Djohn :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Assange shut Stone down. Wikileaks shut Stone down. Stone shut Stone down.

"Stone served as an adviser on President Donald Trump's presidential campaign, and according to The WSJ report, Stone said in an email on August 4, 2016, that he had "dined with Julian Assange last night."
However, Stone has denied ever meeting Assange.
In a text exchange on Friday before the WSJ report, Stone said he "never met or spoke with Assange ever," and Stone told The Journal the contents of the email were "said in jest."

Stone also noted that his passport showed that he did not leave the country in 2016."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/02/politics/roger-stone-wikileaks-meeting-special-counsel/index.html

Assange is a wanted criminal. That's your source? :lol

[Pavlov]

Assange shut Stone down. Wikileaks shut Stone down. Stone shut Stone down.

"Stone served as an adviser on President Donald Trump's presidential campaign, and according to The WSJ report, Stone said in an email on August 4, 2016, that he had "dined with Julian Assange last night."
However, Stone has denied ever meeting Assange.
In a text exchange on Friday before the WSJ report, Stone said he "never met or spoke with Assange ever," and Stone told The Journal the contents of the email were "said in jest."

Stone also noted that his passport showed that he did not leave the country in 2016."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/02/politics/roger-stone-wikileaks-meeting-special-counsel/index.htmlExplain Stone's using it in jest.

[djohn2oo8]

"but he met with Assange I know it!"

Djohn :lol

McCarthyism. What is it?

[spurraider21]

:lmao Gregg Jarrett


Jarrett has been criticized for letting his political beliefs color his legal commentary, sometimes changing his mind on legal issue based on which political figure would be affected. On August 3, 2017, Jarrett called for a grand jury for Hillary Clinton over her email controversy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_email_controversy).[7] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregg_Jarrett#cite_note-:2-7) A day later, when a grand jury was impaneled by special counsel Robert Mueller in the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_ele ctions), Jarrett said that grand juries were an "undemocratic farce".[7] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregg_Jarrett#cite_note-:2-7)

Jarrett later called the Mueller investigation "illegitimate and corrupt" on Fox News (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News), stating that "the FBI has become America's secret police" and "a shadow government".[8] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregg_Jarrett#cite_note-8)[9] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregg_Jarrett#cite_note-:4-9) Jarrett likened the FBI to the KGB (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KGB), the Soviet security agency, for which he received PolitiFact's "Pants on Fire" rating.[10] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregg_Jarrett#cite_note-:3-10) According to PolitiFact, "numerous historians of the FBI and the KGB say the comparison is ridiculous. The KGB implemented the goals of the Communist Party leadership, including countless examples of tortures and summary executions. The FBI, by contrast, is subject to the rule of law and is democratically accountable."[10] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregg_Jarrett#cite_note-:3-10)In the context of possible collusion between Donald Trump's presidential campaign and the Russian government, Jarrett has said that any such collusion would not be a crime: "Collusion is not a crime. Only in antitrust law. You can collude all you want with a foreign government in an election. There is no such statute."[11] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregg_Jarrett#cite_note-:0-11)[12] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregg_Jarrett#cite_note-12) According to PolitiFact (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PolitiFact), the statement is false. Three prominent election law scholars said there are at least four laws that would prohibit the sort of activities under investigation, whether those laws mention collusion or not. Jarrett’s focus on a single word fails to reflect the reach of the criminal code."[11] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregg_Jarrett#cite_note-:0-11)

Jarrett has said that former FBI Director James Comey may have broken the law by releasing a memo to press wherein Comey recounted a conversation with President Trump where Trump requested that Comey end the investigation into Michael T. Flynn (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Flynn).[13] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregg_Jarrett#cite_note-:1-13) According to University of Texas School of Law professor Bobby Chesney, Jarrett's assertion is "nonsense".[13] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregg_Jarrett#cite_note-:1-13) University of Georgia law professor Diane Marie Amann also refuted Jarrett's assertion.[14] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregg_Jarrett#cite_note-14)

In February 2018, Jarrett asserted that he had a “highly reliable congressional source” which told him that Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein “used the power of his office to threaten members of Congress”.[9] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregg_Jarrett#cite_note-:4-9)

[Chris]

chirp chirp

:lmao

[Chris]

Explain Stone's using it in jest.

Explain why Mueller is investigating Stone :lol

[Chris]

:lmao Gregg Jarrett

Jarret said Hillary should be investigated and Mueller investigation is a sham? Shocker! :lol

[djohn2oo8]

:lmao
So you don't know what it is. :lol

[Pavlov]

Explain why Mueller is investigating Stone :lolAlready did that.

Explain Stone's saying he had dinner with Assange in jest.

[djohn2oo8]

Already did that.

Explain Stone's saying he had dinner with Assange in jest.
That is a tall task for him seeing that he uses words he doesn't understand.

[spurraider21]

Jarret said Hillary should be investigated and Mueller investigation is a sham? Shocker! :lol
:lmao he said she should be grand juried and the very next day said grand juries are undemocratic farces :lmao

[TSA]

Explain Stone's using it in jest.

You'll have to ask Stone that question.

Explain how Stone had dinner with Assange in Ecuador on the 3rd when he was on a flight from Los Angeles to Miami on the 3rd. Also explain how Stone managed to go to Ecuador without getting his passport stamped.

[TSA]

I haven't planted my flag on repeatedly saying there will be indictments. Given the riven corruption and incompetence that seems attracted to Trump, I would be surprised if none were forthcoming.

I, as always, prefer evidence, and modify my model of reality based on as objective a reading of available information as possible. I self-reflect all the time.

You however, pick yourself up out of the dungheap after falling face first, then leap to the next with both hands grasping. It is amusing.

You sure as fuck picked up that flag and marched with the Trump/Russia election collusion conspiracy theory. When no indictments happen concerning Trump/Russia election collusion will you admit you taken a fool and pushed the DNC propaganda? What will that say about you?

[Blake]

981171343105429505

Time to shut her down.

Lol gregg jarrett

[djohn2oo8]

Lol gregg jarrett

:lmao

[TSA]

Rosenstein's memo cleary has other charges and allegations redacted. You're upset. Your world is crashing down. Not to mention the memo itself authorized Mueller to investigate Manafort for collusion.

djohn will your world come crashing down with it's revealed the redactions were all about Tony Podesta and Vin Weber?

================================================== ============================================

WASHINGTON (AP) — Special counsel Robert Mueller’s grand jury is investigating a prominent Democratic lobbyist and a former GOP congressman for their involvement in an influence campaign on behalf of Ukrainian interests tied to Paul Manafort, according to a person with direct knowledge of the investigation.

At the center of the widening probe are Tony Podesta, a longtime Democratic operative, and Vin Weber, a former GOP congressman and leader of his own high-powered lobbying firm, Mercury LLC. The two men were hired as part of a multimillion-dollar lobbying effort directed by Manafort and longtime associate Rick Gates.

With the emphasis on the Ukrainian lobbying efforts, Mueller’s criminal probe is moving beyond investigating ties between the Trump campaign and Russia and is aggressively pursuing people who worked as foreign agents without registering with the Justice Department. More witnesses are expected before the grand jury in coming weeks.

Representatives for Weber’s firm and Podesta said they are cooperating with the special counsel’s investigation. Podesta, whose brother was the chairman of Hillary Clinton’s campaign, has resigned from his firm.

FBI agents working for Mueller are asking witnesses about meetings between Gates, Podesta and Weber to discuss the lobbying work in detail and any communication with representatives of a pro-Russian Ukrainian political party, according to two people familiar with the interviews who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the investigation.

“There were questions about how much Podesta and Vin Weber were involved. There was a lot of interest there,” one of them said.

FBI agents also expressed interest in the law firm Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP, which produced a 2012 report used to justify the jailing of an opposition politician in Ukraine.

Both people said that investigators on Mueller’s team have asked about what the lobbyists knew about the source of the funding and who was directing the work in 2012 — long before Manafort became Trump’s campaign chairman in 2016.

Gates and Manafort were both indicted Monday on charges of acting as unregistered foreign agents and lying on forms they filed with the Justice Department’s Foreign Agents Registration Act unit as well as money laundering.

According to Manafort’s indictment, he and Gates “engaged in weekly and at times daily calls and emails with (company 1 and company 2) to provide them directions as to specific lobbying steps that should be taken and to receive reports back as to the results of such lobbying.” The two firms were the Podesta Group and Mercury.

https://www.apnews.com/a7589ef1d4034a08b93d966abbb05017

[djohn2oo8]

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

[Pavlov]

You'll have to ask Stone that question.That's what Mueller is doing, genius.

"Have dinner" could easily mean communicating with a person while eating a meal. Certainly after #pizzagate your imagination can stretch that far, can't it?

[Pavlov]

djohn will your world come crashing down with it's revealed the redactions were all about Tony Podesta and Vin Weber?

================================================== ============================================

WASHINGTON (AP) — Special counsel Robert Mueller’s grand jury is investigating a prominent Democratic lobbyist and a former GOP congressman for their involvement in an influence campaign on behalf of Ukrainian interests tied to Paul Manafort, according to a person with direct knowledge of the investigation.

At the center of the widening probe are Tony Podesta, a longtime Democratic operative, and Vin Weber, a former GOP congressman and leader of his own high-powered lobbying firm, Mercury LLC. The two men were hired as part of a multimillion-dollar lobbying effort directed by Manafort and longtime associate Rick Gates.

With the emphasis on the Ukrainian lobbying efforts, Mueller’s criminal probe is moving beyond investigating ties between the Trump campaign and Russia and is aggressively pursuing people who worked as foreign agents without registering with the Justice Department. More witnesses are expected before the grand jury in coming weeks.

Representatives for Weber’s firm and Podesta said they are cooperating with the special counsel’s investigation. Podesta, whose brother was the chairman of Hillary Clinton’s campaign, has resigned from his firm.

FBI agents working for Mueller are asking witnesses about meetings between Gates, Podesta and Weber to discuss the lobbying work in detail and any communication with representatives of a pro-Russian Ukrainian political party, according to two people familiar with the interviews who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the investigation.

“There were questions about how much Podesta and Vin Weber were involved. There was a lot of interest there,” one of them said.

FBI agents also expressed interest in the law firm Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP, which produced a 2012 report used to justify the jailing of an opposition politician in Ukraine.

Both people said that investigators on Mueller’s team have asked about what the lobbyists knew about the source of the funding and who was directing the work in 2012 — long before Manafort became Trump’s campaign chairman in 2016.

Gates and Manafort were both indicted Monday on charges of acting as unregistered foreign agents and lying on forms they filed with the Justice Department’s Foreign Agents Registration Act unit as well as money laundering.

According to Manafort’s indictment, he and Gates “engaged in weekly and at times daily calls and emails with (company 1 and company 2) to provide them directions as to specific lobbying steps that should be taken and to receive reports back as to the results of such lobbying.” The two firms were the Podesta Group and Mercury.

https://www.apnews.com/a7589ef1d4034a08b93d966abbb05017November 3?

[TSA]

That's what Mueller is doing, genius.

"Have dinner" could easily mean communicating with a person while eating a meal. Certainly after #pizzagate your imagination can stretch that far, can't it?

innuendo good now

[Pavlov]

innuendo good now:lol All I'm doing is telling you why Mueller is investigating his statements. It would be stupid not to.

Are you saying there's no way it could mean that?

Yes or no.

[TSA]

:lol All I'm doing is telling you why Mueller is investigating his statements. It would be stupid not to.

Are you saying there's no way it could mean that?

Yes or no.

No.


Anything to keep from talking about the Roger Stone investigation.

You haven't brought much to the table in terms of discussion.

[Pavlov]

No.Then what are you babbling about?


You haven't brought much to the table in terms of discussion.That's the first question you have answered in weeks tbh.

[TSA]

Then what are you babbling about?You said I was avoiding talking about Roger Stone. I attempted to talk about Roger Stone with you and realized you had nothing to talk about.


That's the first question you have answered in weeks tbh.You are being dishonest and that is especially disgraceful considering you said tbh. If I find a question of yours I answered in the last weeks will you permanently ban yourself yes or no?

[Pavlov]

You said I was avoiding talking about Roger Stone. I attempted to talk about Roger Stone with you and realized you had nothing to talk about.I got you to admit it's certainly logical to investigate what Stone said.:tu


You are being dishonest and that is especially disgraceful considering you said tbh. If I find a question of yours I answered in the last weeks will you permanently ban yourself yes or no?:lol muh bets

[TSA]

I got you to admit it's certainly logical to investigate what Stone said.:tu

:lol muh bets

Why are you dishonest?

[Pavlov]

Why are you dishonest?I exaggerated because you have been dodging so many questions lately.

Any other questions?

[djohn2oo8]

We broke him y'all.

[RandomGuy]

You sure as fuck picked up that flag and marched with the Trump/Russia election collusion conspiracy theory.
When no indictments happen concerning Trump/Russia election collusion will you admit you taken a fool and pushed the DNC propaganda? What will that say about you?


Not quite the same as jumping up and down saying there will absolutely be indictments. Nice goal post move. Let me know when you are done.

Must have touched a nerve.

I will say there seems to be a lot of indicators that something happened.
Either:
Sucker Trump has been taken out for a ride.
Crooked Trump has been compromised.

I will feel fine. It will say that I followed the best available evidence at the time.

That's the way critical thinking works, pizzaboichik.

[TSA]

I exaggerated because you have been dodging so many questions lately.

Any other questions?

You were dishonest. Don't be dishonest about being dishonest. Doubling down on dishonesty is not a good look tbh.

[spurraider21]

You were dishonest. Don't be dishonest about being dishonest. Doubling down on dishonesty is not a good look tbh.
you speaking out of experience?

[TSA]

Not quite the same as jumping up and down saying there will absolutely be indictments. Nice goal post move. Let me know when you are done.

Must have touched a nerve.

I will say there seems to be a lot of indicators that something happened.
Either:
Sucker Trump has been taken out for a ride.
Crooked Trump has been compromised.

I will feel fine. It will say that I followed the best available evidence at the time.

That's the way critical thinking works, pizzaboichik.

Let me know when you are ready to answer the questions.

When no indictments happen concerning Trump/Russia election collusion will you admit you taken a fool and pushed the DNC propaganda? What will that say about you?

[djohn2oo8]

You were dishonest. Don't be dishonest about being dishonest. Doubling down on dishonesty is not a good look tbh.

Like your whole Seth Rich conspiracy. lol

[Chris]

evidence



:lmao:lmao:lmao

[TSA]

you speaking out of experience?

Yes I see Pavlov do it quite often.

[TSA]

Like your whole Seth Rich conspiracy. lol

They finally solved the murder?!?! Fill me in.

[Pavlov]

You were dishonest. Don't be dishonest about being dishonest. Doubling down on dishonesty is not a good look tbh.:lol I told you exactly why I exaggerated.

You have been dodging questions quite a bit lately.

Period.

Deal with it.

[djohn2oo8]

They finally solved the murder?!?! Fill me in.
Oh you have evidence to support your theory?

[Pavlov]

Let me know when you are ready to answer the questions.

When no indictments happen concerning Trump/Russia election collusion will you admit you taken a fool and pushed the DNC propaganda? What will that say about you?Speaking for myself, the adoption meeting has completely justified every investigation of every person who has been, is bring and will be investigated.

They brought this on themselves.

[Chris]

Oh you have evidence to support your theory?

Yeah but Mueller doesn't care.

[boutons_deux]

Chinese billionaire wallops Roger Stone with $100 million defamation suit over his InfoWars screeds

https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Screen-Shot-2017-09-26-at-1.15.52-PM.png

Guo Wengui, known in America as “Miles Kwok,” is suing in Miami federal court after Stone slammed him on InfoWars.



Stone alleged that Guo was laundering money to Hillary Clinton and Steve Bannon.

“Stone has publicly stated that Plaintiff Guo has been ‘found guilty’ and ‘convicted’ of financial crimes in the United States — this is not true,”

the lawsuit states.

“Stone has publicly accused Plaintiff Guo of violating U.S. election law by making political donations to Hillary Clinton and

financing a presidential run by Steven Bannon — this is not true.

Mr. Stone should be held to account for these and other falsehoods about Mr. Guo.”

When asked about the allegations, Stone called them “a crock of sh*t.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/04/chinese-billionaire-wallops-roger-stone-100-million-defamation-suit-infowars-screeds/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2018/04/chinese-billionaire-wallops-roger-stone-100-million-defamation-suit-infowars-screeds/)

Will this billionaire find the right lawyer(s) to screw The Dirty Trickster, a screwing he so much deserves?

[TSA]

:lol I told you exactly why I exaggerated.

You have been dodging questions quite a bit lately.

Period.

Deal with it.

I dismiss your questions that have already been answered.

Period.

Deal with it.

[djohn2oo8]

Yeah but Mueller doesn't care.

Where is the evidence?

[Pavlov]

I dismiss your questions that have already been answered.

Period.

Deal with it.:lol You dodge questions all the time and get huffy when you're called on it.

Period.

Deal with it.

[Chris]

Where is the evidence?

Already posted ITT

[TSA]

Oh you have evidence to support your theory?

so they didn't solve the murder :depressed

[TSA]

:lol You dodge questions all the time and get huffy when you're called on it.

Period.

Deal with it.

You're dishonest.

Period.

Deal with it.

[RandomGuy]

Let me know when you are ready to answer the questions.

When no indictments happen concerning Trump/Russia election collusion will you admit you taken a fool and pushed the DNC propaganda? What will that say about you?

Already answered your question repeatedly. :lol


OH HEY WHAT IS UP, AMERICA? Robert Mueller just sent somebody to JAIL!

We told you last week about the handsome Dutch lawyer Alex van der Zwaan, whose father-in-law German Khan just HAPPENS to be a big Russian oligarch who co-owns Alfa Bank, you know, the bank that really likes sending Snapchat Sexts with this one Trump Organization server FOR SOME REASON. Van der Zwaan got hisself in a wee spot of trouble, by lying to the FBI about the work he and his law firm, Skadden, Arps, did for Trump campaign chair Paul Manafort, back when Manafort was helping a pro-Russian Ukrainian dictator dictate things in Ukrainian. He also may have destroyed (did destroy) some emails, in order to hide conversations he had with Paul Manafort, Rick Gates and “Person A,” who is Paul Manafort’s business associate Konstantin Kilimnik, who is literally a Russian spy. Did Van der Zwaan know Kilimnik was a Russian spy? That would be a big honking YUP, because Rick Gates told him!


Read more at https://wonkette.com/632166/today-was-the-day-robert-mueller-put-somebody-in-jail#ARMBs3DJpAHje6OV.99

[RandomGuy]

so they didn't solve the murder :depressed

Seth Rich's murder is fully consistent with Russian intelligence tying up loose ends. Professional spies rarely get caught murdering people.

[djohn2oo8]

so they didn't solve the murder :depressed

so you could never support your theory. Got it.

[Pavlov]

You're dishonest.

Period.

Deal with it.You're pissy over nothing.

Period.

Deal with it.

[Chris]

Seth Rich's murder is fully consistent with Russian intelligence tying up loose ends. Professional spies rarely get caught murdering people.

Putin the evil mastermind pulling all the strings :lol

[TSA]

Already answered your question repeatedly. :lol

Read more at https://wonkette.com/632166/today-was-the-day-robert-mueller-put-somebody-in-jail#ARMBs3DJpAHje6OV.99

That's not an indictment concerning Trump/Russia election collusion dummy, that's an indictment concerning lobbying work from 2012 in Ukraine dummy.

:lol RandomGuy and his wonkette infatuation

[TSA]

You're pissy over nothing.

Period.

Deal with it.

It's Pavjecting again. I don't get pissy over an online message board.

[TSA]

so you could never support your theory. Got it.

Can you support the botched robbery theory?

[RandomGuy]

And when no indictments happen concerning Trump/Russia election collusion what will you do? Will you admit you were taken a fool and pushed the DNC propaganda? What will that say about you? Will you take some time for self reflection?



I, as always, prefer evidence, and modify my model of reality based on as objective a reading of available information as possible. I self-reflect all the time.



When no indictments happen concerning Trump/Russia election collusion will you admit you taken a fool and pushed the DNC propaganda? What will that say about you?


I will feel fine. It will say that I followed the best available evidence at the time.



Let me know when you are ready to answer the questions.
[asks question a 3rd time]


Asked, and answered twice. You will not get another, pizzaboichik. :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Can you support the botched robbery theory?

I asked you if you can support your theory. You cannot.

[RandomGuy]

That's not an indictment concerning Trump/Russia election collusion dummy, that's an indictment concerning lobbying work from 2012 in Ukraine dummy.

:lol RandomGuy and his wonkette infatuation

Didn't say it was.

:lol TSA and his strawman infatuation.

[RandomGuy]

I don't get pissy over an online message board.

(rolls out of chair laughing)

Sure you don't.... (gasp)


(wipes eyes)

Sure....

[Pavlov]

It's Pavjecting again. I don't get pissy over an online message board.:lol you're the one whining about my calling out your dodging questions.

TSA: I ONLY DODGE MOST OF YOUR QUESTIONS!

[TSA]

Seth Rich's murder is fully consistent with Russian intelligence tying up loose ends. Professional spies rarely get caught murdering people.

Was the former marine who tried to kill the Seth Rich investigator really a Russian GRU agent?

http://dailycaller.com/2018/03/20/seth-rich-investigator-attacked/

[RandomGuy]

That's not an indictment concerning Trump/Russia election collusion dummy, that's an indictment concerning lobbying work from 2012 in Ukraine dummy.

:lol RandomGuy and his wonkette infatuation

Van der Zwaan isn’t the biggest criminal in the Trump-Russia probe, by any means. He is a young lawyer who, when faced with the decision between doing law correctly and doing dirty shit for Paul Manafort and Rick Gates and their Russian spy buddy and then lying to authorities and destroying evidence, chose the latter. But he is important in that, light sentence notwithstanding, he’s obviously already helped with the investigation to the point that he’s been a big help in delivering bigger fish to Mueller.
Read more at https://wonkette.com/632166/today-was-the-day-robert-mueller-put-somebody-in-jail#ARMBs3DJpAHje6OV.99

[TSA]

Didn't say it was.

:lol TSA and his strawman infatuation.

Then why did you post it? Did you need to hit your hourly wonkette quota to get your shill pay?

[RandomGuy]

Was the former marine who tried to kill the Seth Rich investigator really a Russian GRU agent?

http://dailycaller.com/2018/03/20/seth-rich-investigator-attacked/

No idea. Russian intelligence turns people all the time, and hires people who don't know that they are acting on their behest.

[Pavlov]

Was the former marine who tried to kill the Seth Rich investigator really a Russian GRU agent?

http://dailycaller.com/2018/03/20/seth-rich-investigator-attacked/"Conspiracy nut attacks other conspiracy nut"

[TSA]

Van der Zwaan isn’t the biggest criminal in the Trump-Russia probe, by any means. He is a young lawyer who, when faced with the decision between doing law correctly and doing dirty shit for Paul Manafort and Rick Gates and their Russian spy buddy and then lying to authorities and destroying evidence, chose the latter. But he is important in that, light sentence notwithstanding, he’s obviously already helped with the investigation to the point that he’s been a big help in delivering bigger fish to Mueller.
Read more at https://wonkette.com/632166/today-was-the-day-robert-mueller-put-somebody-in-jail#ARMBs3DJpAHje6OV.99

The van der Zwaan case did not involve Mueller's central mission of examining potential help for Russian election meddling in 2016. Instead, it grew out of the investigation of Gates and former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort over work they did in Ukraine more than a decade ago.

Prosecuting van der Zwaan was more likely intended to send a message that Mueller's team would move aggressively against anyone who tried to obstruct their investigation rather than to enlist van der Zwaan's help. The terms of his plea do not require him to cooperate with prosecutors.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/attorney-alex-van-der-zwaan-first-person-sentenced-mueller-probe-n862186

:lol RandomGuy and his wonkette infatuation

[RandomGuy]

Then why did you post it? Did you need to hit your hourly wonkette quota to get your shill pay?

I like Wonkette. They say "fuck" a lot.

Like "I can't believe there are fucking stupid people who think Trump didn't collude with Russia". or "Fucking stupid people shill for Trump."

[TSA]

:lol you're the one whining about my calling out your dodging questions.

TSA: I ONLY DODGE MOST OF YOUR QUESTIONS!

:lol whining

It's Pavjecting again

[Pavlov]

The van der Zwaan case did not involve Mueller's central mission of examining potential help for Russian election meddling in 2016. Instead, it grew out of the investigation of Gates and former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort over work they did in Ukraine more than a decade ago.

Prosecuting van der Zwaan was more likely intended to send a message that Mueller's team would move aggressively against anyone who tried to obstruct their investigation rather than to enlist van der Zwaan's help. The terms of his plea do not require him to cooperate with prosecutors.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/attorney-alex-van-der-zwaan-first-person-sentenced-mueller-probe-n862186

:lol RandomGuy and his wonkette infatuationYeah, this guy looks like a dumb footnote at this point.

Gates and Papadopoulos are much more valuable for the actual investigation.

[TSA]

I like Wonkette. They say "fuck" a lot.

Like "I can't believe there are fucking stupid people who think Trump didn't collude with Russia". or "Fucking stupid people shill for Trump."

Well they sure as fuck don't know what the fuck they are fucking talking about concerning fucking van der Zwaan. The fucking terms of his fucking plea deal do not fucking require him to fucking cooperate with the fucking prosecutors.

[Pavlov]

:lol whining

It's Pavjecting againOf course you were whining.

You dodge questions all the time.

Deal with it.

[TSA]

Yeah, this guy looks like a dumb footnote at this point.

Gates and Papadopoulos are much more valuable for the actual investigation.

Papadopoulos is worthless. Gates and Manafort are valuable in bringing down Podesta and Weber.

[Pavlov]

Papadopoulos is worthless. Gates and Manafort are valuable in bringing down Podesta and Weber.:lol Here's where you start dodging questions again.

What is your Podesta/Weber conspiracy theory?

[TSA]

:lol Here's where you start dodging questions again.

What is your Podesta/Weber conspiracy theory?

They'll be indicted for crimes similar to Manafort/Gates.

[Pavlov]

They'll be indicted crimes similar to Manafort/Gates.OK, which crimes specifically?

[RandomGuy]

The van der Zwaan case did not involve Mueller's central mission of examining potential help for Russian election meddling in 2016. Instead, it grew out of the investigation of Gates and former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort over work they did in Ukraine more than a decade ago.

Prosecuting van der Zwaan was more likely intended to send a message that Mueller's team would move aggressively against anyone who tried to obstruct their investigation rather than to enlist van der Zwaan's help. The terms of his plea do not require him to cooperate with prosecutors.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/attorney-alex-van-der-zwaan-first-person-sentenced-mueller-probe-n862186

:lol RandomGuy and his wonkette infatuation

U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson acknowledged van der Zwaan’s character and willingness to turn over evidence of his crimes but said that given his means, allowing the defendant to “pay a fine at the door and walk away would not send a message of deterrence. It would do the opposite.”

Read more at https://wonkette.com/632166/today-was-the-day-robert-mueller-put-somebody-in-jail#ARMBs3DJpAHje6OV.99

fucking :lol

[djohn2oo8]

But when will Susan Rice be indicted?

[TSA]

Read more at https://wonkette.com/632166/today-was-the-day-robert-mueller-put-somebody-in-jail#ARMBs3DJpAHje6OV.99

fucking :lol

What did van der Zwaan's crimes have to do with the election?

[RandomGuy]

Well they sure as fuck don't know what the fuck they are fucking talking about concerning fucking van der Zwaan. The fucking terms of his fucking plea deal do not fucking require him to fucking cooperate with the fucking prosecutors.

And the fucking judge noted that he fucking did cooperate in the fucking sentencing hearing, which you would fucking know if you took your thumb out of your ass long enough to fucking read something not the dailycaller/4chan,...

pizzaboichik.

[TSA]

OK, which crimes specifically?

Don't know specifics tbh I'm not privy to what Manafort and Gates have given Mueller.

[RandomGuy]

What did van der Zwaan's crimes have to do with the election?

Alex van der Zwaan, whose father-in-law German Khan just HAPPENS to be a big Russian oligarch who co-owns Alfa Bank, you know, the bank that really likes sending Snapchat Sexts with this one Trump Organization server FOR SOME REASON.
Read more at https://wonkette.com/632166/today-was-the-day-robert-mueller-put-somebody-in-jail#ARMBs3DJpAHje6OV.99

[djohn2oo8]

Don't know specifics tbh I'm not privy to what Manafort and Gates have given Mueller.

So again you cannot back up your theory.

[Pavlov]

Don't know specifics tbh I'm not privy to what Manafort and Gates have given Mueller.That qualifies as a dodge.

You just said they will be indicted for crimes similar to Manafort and Gates with zero access to any evidence ever.

What crimes?

[dodge]

Upon what are you basing your claim they will be indicted?

[TSA]

And the fucking judge noted that he fucking did cooperate in the fucking sentencing hearing, which you would fucking know if you took your thumb out of your ass long enough to fucking read something not the dailycaller/4chan,...

pizzaboichik.

I already posted that van der Zwaan handed over a recorded conversation of Gates and Person A discussing payments and crimes they committed in 2012. Did the wonkette article not mention that? I don't read it when you link to wonkette so you tell me.

[TSA]

That qualifies as a dodge.

You just said they will be indicted for crimes similar to Manafort and Gates with zero access to any evidence ever.

What crimes?

[dodge]

Upon what are you basing your claim they will be indicted?That's not a dodge. I'm not going to be bothered to pull up the code of laws and list all the potential crimes they committed. Indicted for crimes similar to Manafort and Gates works just fine. I apologize if you don't like my answer but it is what it is.

Someone from Skadden has already been sentenced. I'm basing my claim on this.

WASHINGTON (AP) — Special counsel Robert Mueller’s grand jury is investigating a prominent Democratic lobbyist and a former GOP congressman for their involvement in an influence campaign on behalf of Ukrainian interests tied to Paul Manafort, according to a person with direct knowledge of the investigation.

At the center of the widening probe are Tony Podesta, a longtime Democratic operative, and Vin Weber, a former GOP congressman and leader of his own high-powered lobbying firm, Mercury LLC. The two men were hired as part of a multimillion-dollar lobbying effort directed by Manafort and longtime associate Rick Gates.

With the emphasis on the Ukrainian lobbying efforts, Mueller’s criminal probe is moving beyond investigating ties between the Trump campaign and Russia and is aggressively pursuing people who worked as foreign agents without registering with the Justice Department. More witnesses are expected before the grand jury in coming weeks.

Representatives for Weber’s firm and Podesta said they are cooperating with the special counsel’s investigation. Podesta, whose brother was the chairman of Hillary Clinton’s campaign, has resigned from his firm.

FBI agents working for Mueller are asking witnesses about meetings between Gates, Podesta and Weber to discuss the lobbying work in detail and any communication with representatives of a pro-Russian Ukrainian political party, according to two people familiar with the interviews who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the investigation.

“There were questions about how much Podesta and Vin Weber were involved. There was a lot of interest there,” one of them said.

FBI agents also expressed interest in the law firm Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP, which produced a 2012 report used to justify the jailing of an opposition politician in Ukraine.

Both people said that investigators on Mueller’s team have asked about what the lobbyists knew about the source of the funding and who was directing the work in 2012 — long before Manafort became Trump’s campaign chairman in 2016.

Gates and Manafort were both indicted Monday on charges of acting as unregistered foreign agents and lying on forms they filed with the Justice Department’s Foreign Agents Registration Act unit as well as money laundering.

According to Manafort’s indictment, he and Gates “engaged in weekly and at times daily calls and emails with (company 1 and company 2) to provide them directions as to specific lobbying steps that should be taken and to receive reports back as to the results of such lobbying.” The two firms were the Podesta Group and Mercury.

https://www.apnews.com/a7589ef1d4034a08b93d966abbb05017

[djohn2oo8]

lol

[TSA]

lol

non emoticon nervous laughter

[djohn2oo8]

non emoticon nervous laughter

None of your theories have been right. None.

[Pavlov]

That's not a dodge. I'm not going to be bothered to pull up the code of laws and list all the potential crimes they committed. Indicted for crimes similar to Manafort and Gates works just fine. I apologize if you don't like my answer but it is what it is.You're saying Podesta and Weber will be indicted for money laundering?

Yes or no.


Someone from Skadden has already been sentenced. I'm basing my claim on this.

WASHINGTON (AP) — Special counsel Robert Mueller’s grand jury is investigating a prominent Democratic lobbyist and a former GOP congressman for their involvement in an influence campaign on behalf of Ukrainian interests tied to Paul Manafort, according to a person with direct knowledge of the investigation.

At the center of the widening probe are Tony Podesta, a longtime Democratic operative, and Vin Weber, a former GOP congressman and leader of his own high-powered lobbying firm, Mercury LLC. The two men were hired as part of a multimillion-dollar lobbying effort directed by Manafort and longtime associate Rick Gates.

With the emphasis on the Ukrainian lobbying efforts, Mueller’s criminal probe is moving beyond investigating ties between the Trump campaign and Russia and is aggressively pursuing people who worked as foreign agents without registering with the Justice Department. More witnesses are expected before the grand jury in coming weeks.

Representatives for Weber’s firm and Podesta said they are cooperating with the special counsel’s investigation. Podesta, whose brother was the chairman of Hillary Clinton’s campaign, has resigned from his firm.

FBI agents working for Mueller are asking witnesses about meetings between Gates, Podesta and Weber to discuss the lobbying work in detail and any communication with representatives of a pro-Russian Ukrainian political party, according to two people familiar with the interviews who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the investigation.

“There were questions about how much Podesta and Vin Weber were involved. There was a lot of interest there,” one of them said.

FBI agents also expressed interest in the law firm Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP, which produced a 2012 report used to justify the jailing of an opposition politician in Ukraine.

Both people said that investigators on Mueller’s team have asked about what the lobbyists knew about the source of the funding and who was directing the work in 2012 — long before Manafort became Trump’s campaign chairman in 2016.

Gates and Manafort were both indicted Monday on charges of acting as unregistered foreign agents and lying on forms they filed with the Justice Department’s Foreign Agents Registration Act unit as well as money laundering.

According to Manafort’s indictment, he and Gates “engaged in weekly and at times daily calls and emails with (company 1 and company 2) to provide them directions as to specific lobbying steps that should be taken and to receive reports back as to the results of such lobbying.” The two firms were the Podesta Group and Mercury.

https://www.apnews.com/a7589ef1d4034a08b93d966abbb05017So your conspiracy theory is Mueller is going after Gates and Manafort first so he can get their subcontractors later?

Yes or no.

[TSA]

None of your theories have been right. None.

Neither have yours. There is still not a single indictment for Trump/Russia election collusion.

[Reck]

Neither have yours. There is still not a single indictment for Trump/Russia election collusion.

So, Flynn pleaded guilty for fun and is cooperating with Mueller because oh my, he's just a patriot.

You're too dumb to breathe.

[boutons_deux]

with no phone-to-tower security ....

US intel agencies warn that foreign spies have devices that can mimic cell towers and steal data

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/04/us-intel-agencies-warn-foreign-spies-devices-can-mimic-cell-towers-steal-data/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[Pavlov]

So, Flynn pleaded guilty for fun and is cooperating with Mueller because oh my, he's just a patriot.

You're too dumb to breathe.FLYNN IS KING SPOOK AND IS DOING SPOOKY THINGS LIKE SELLING HIS HOME BECAUSE SUSAN RICE WAS SMILING WITH HIM

[TSA]

You're saying Podesta and Weber will be indicted for money laundering?

Yes or no.

Could be, along with acting as unregistered foreign agents and lying on forms they filed with the Justice Department’s Foreign Agents Registration Act


So your conspiracy theory is Mueller is going after Gates and Manafort first so he can get their subcontractors later?

Yes or no.

Podesta is a much bigger player in the lobbying business, it's possible Mueller uncovered much more than just his shady work in Ukraine.

[djohn2oo8]

So, Flynn pleaded guilty for fun and is cooperating with Mueller because oh my, he's just a patriot.

You're too dumb to breathe.

:lmao

[TSA]

So, Flynn pleaded guilty for fun and is cooperating with Mueller because oh my, he's just a patriot.

You're too dumb to breathe.

The guy who doesn't know the difference between "on" and "from" calling anyone else dumb :rollin

[djohn2oo8]

FLYNN IS KING SPOOK AND IS DOING SPOOKY THINGS LIKE SELLING HIS HOME BECAUSE SUSAN RICE WAS SMILING WITH HIM

:lmao

[Pavlov]

Could be, along with acting as unregistered foreign agents and lying on forms they filed with the Justice Department’s Foreign Agents Registration ActCould be?

What is your evidence they laundered money?

Be specific. This is your conspiracy theory. Having access to Mueller's evidence has nothing to do with your conspiracy theory.


Podesta is a much bigger player in the lobbying business, it's possible Mueller uncovered much more than just his shady work in Ukraine.What more are you saying he could uncover?

Be specific. This is your conspiracy theory. Having access to Mueller's evidence has nothing to do with your conspiracy theory.

[djohn2oo8]

Neither have yours. There is still not a single indictment for Trump/Russia election collusion.

Well you are posting from another account because one of my theories was a fact. Biatch. :lol