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djohn2oo8
02-18-2018, 07:46 PM
Dude, it says there is no allegation that he knew about the Russians... more nothing Burglar.

Moving goalposts again. You said no Americans were charged. He was charged even unwittingly, he still aided the operation.

DarrinS
02-18-2018, 07:46 PM
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Here dumbass.

Holeeeey shit! BOOM!

djohn2oo8
02-18-2018, 07:46 PM
https://media1.tenor.com/images/c924b622b71a51d0c4aa21760c69b9f3/tenor.gif?itemid=9264828

:lol

:lmao everytime

Mikeanaro
02-18-2018, 07:47 PM
:lol another conspiracy!

Damn, you're stupid.
Chumpie, you are drowning in whatanothing bruglars.
Not very smart.

If MSM doesnt say a single thing about it, is because its crap.
Trump is not Nixon...

djohn2oo8
02-18-2018, 07:47 PM
Darrin triggered as fuck tonight :lol

Pavlov
02-18-2018, 07:47 PM
Jeez, if Jill Stein isn't guilty she needs to not melt down one minute into an eight minute interview.

Pavlov
02-18-2018, 07:48 PM
Chumpie, you are drowning in whatanothing bruglars.
Not very smart.

If MSM doesnt say a single thing about it, is because its crap.
Trump is not Nixon...The MSM reported it in full.

You don't know anything about Nixon either.

Mikeanaro
02-18-2018, 07:49 PM
Moving goalposts again. You said no Americans were charged. He was charged even unwittingly, he still aided the operation.
It seems you dont understand, nothing will happen, now they get some american idiot to justify the ¨well spent¨ money and how they fucked up the Florida shooting.
They will slap his wrists while you eat popcorn until your bowel explodes waiting the nothing burgler.

djohn2oo8
02-18-2018, 07:50 PM
It seems you dont understand, nothing will happen, now they get some american idiot to justify the ¨well spent¨ money and how they fucked up the Florida shooting.
They will slap his wrists while you eat popcorn until your bowel explodes waiting the nothing burgler.

Pretending you know what will happen when 2 seconds ago you didn't know anyone was charged. You're an empty book of knowledge.

DarrinS
02-18-2018, 07:51 PM
Darrin triggered as fuck tonight :lol

Between Jill Stein and some rando in California, shit’s gettin real! :lol

Mikeanaro
02-18-2018, 07:51 PM
The MSM reported it in full.

You don't know anything about Nixon either.
No, check Yahoo right now, it says nothing, that Pineda guy was on 1 article on Friday and no one cared.

Actually Nixon is a lot like Obama, wiretapping the other candidate...

djohn2oo8
02-18-2018, 07:51 PM
The MSM reported it in full.

You don't know anything about Nixon either.

:lmao

Pavlov
02-18-2018, 07:51 PM
It seems you dont understand, nothing will happen, now they get some american idiot to justify the ¨well spent¨ money and how they fucked up the Florida shooting.
They will slap his wrists while you eat popcorn until your bowel explodes waiting the nothing burgler.:lol then why are you melting down so hard?

djohn2oo8
02-18-2018, 07:52 PM
Between Jill Stein and some rando in California, shit’s gettin real! :lol

Keep showing us how much you don't care :rollin

Pavlov
02-18-2018, 07:54 PM
Between Jill Stein and some rando in California, shit’s gettin real! :lol:lol Not even you can deny Russian interference now.

djohn2oo8
02-18-2018, 07:55 PM
:lol Not even you can deny Russian interference now.

:lmao

Mikeanaro
02-18-2018, 07:55 PM
Pretending you know what will happen when 2 seconds ago you didn't know anyone was charged. You're an empty book of knowledge.
Thats right, I wasnt aware of Pineda because MSM never talked about him, which means is not a big deal,

They are putting the most lame articles ever like this
https://splinternews.com/in-wake-of-parkland-shooting-trump-is-all-smiles-1823100381

And then twist it into something more lame like...
https://mashable.com/2018/02/17/donald-trump-parkland-smiling-thumbs-up-obama/#3PttfXInKqq6

And you think if that info is gold they wouldnt be talking about dat?

djohn2oo8
02-18-2018, 07:57 PM
Thats right, I wasnt aware of Pineda because MSM never talked about him, which means is not a big deal,

They are putting the most lame articles ever like this
https://splinternews.com/in-wake-of-parkland-shooting-trump-is-all-smiles-1823100381

And then twist it into something more lame like...
https://mashable.com/2018/02/17/donald-trump-parkland-smiling-thumbs-up-obama/#3PttfXInKqq6

And you think if that info is gold they wouldnt be talking about dat?

They did talk about him. Guess you don't have cable.

Mikeanaro
02-18-2018, 07:57 PM
:lol then why are you melting down so hard?
Whats melting? pointing that you guys have nothing and keep waiting for a fairytooth full of evidence?

After a whole year this is what they bring?

DarrinS
02-18-2018, 07:57 PM
:lol Not even you can deny Russian interference now.

Never did. I’m skeptical of the collusion theory.

djohn2oo8
02-18-2018, 07:57 PM
Whats melting? pointing that you guys have nothing and keep waiting for a fairytooth full of evidence?

After a whole year this is what they bring?

You didn't even know anyone was charged. Next time turn on your tv first.

Mikeanaro
02-18-2018, 07:58 PM
They did talk about him. Guess you don't have cable.
Maybe I dont (if you say so) but if he is the ¨Trump card¨ why nobody writes about it?

djohn2oo8
02-18-2018, 07:59 PM
US media hysteria over Russia -- exactly what Putin wants.

Just look at this Bullshit. :lmao darrin

djohn2oo8
02-18-2018, 08:00 PM
MSM has been obsessed with Russia for months. Better not come up empty.

Oh they won't :rollin

Mikeanaro
02-18-2018, 08:00 PM
You didn't even know anyone was charged. Next time turn on your tv first.
Who cares, I wont spend the whole day watching Fake News with idiots like Don Lemon talking crap, bad for the health, tbh.

Why not the internet? because its crap and no one cares, ok maybe just people crying for IM PITCH!

Pavlov
02-18-2018, 08:01 PM
Thats right, I wasnt aware of Pineda because MSM never talked about him, which means is not a big deal,

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/16/us/politics/richard-pinedo-russia-bank-accounts-guilty-plea-mueller.html

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/16/politics/richard-pinedo-guilty-plea/index.html

https://www.wsj.com/articles/russians-charged-with-interfering-in-u-s-election-1518804495

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/lawyer-california-man-in-russia-probe-has-made-mistakes/2018/02/16/cb37ac10-136b-11e8-a68c-e9374188170e_story.html

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/16/13-russian-nationals-indicted-for-interfering-in-us-elections.html

Every one mentions Pinedo.

Do you have these websites in your country?

:lol

djohn2oo8
02-18-2018, 08:01 PM
Russia!

Damn Darrin. Ya look stupid.

Pavlov
02-18-2018, 08:02 PM
Whats melting? pointing that you guys have nothing and keep waiting for a fairytooth full of evidence?

After a whole year this is what they bring?As I said, this is moving along quite briskly. If you knew anything at all, you would know that.

But you know nothing.

djohn2oo8
02-18-2018, 08:03 PM
Let us know when there are arrests.
Oh looks like that already happened.

Pavlov
02-18-2018, 08:04 PM
Never did. I’m skeptical of the collusion theory.As am I as far as Trump is concerned because he's simply too stupid.

Stupid enough to cover up someone else's deeds tho.

djohn2oo8
02-18-2018, 08:05 PM
It's ironic how pissed the MSM is with Russian interference, when they probably had more to do with getting Trump elected. They've been addicted since he announced.

Downplayed the interference. Again ya look stupid.

Mikeanaro
02-18-2018, 08:05 PM
:lol then why are you melting down so hard?
Im melting down because I dont agree with you?

DarrinS
02-18-2018, 08:05 PM
Oh they won't :rollin

Yes, they tracked down the trollbots. Great stuff.

How’s the real investigation going?

djohn2oo8
02-18-2018, 08:06 PM
Poor Darrin.

Mikeanaro
02-18-2018, 08:06 PM
As I said, this is moving along quite briskly. If you knew anything at all, you would know that.

But you know nothing.
According to who? The guy that tells ¨They took 2 years to get Nixon?¨

Pavlov
02-18-2018, 08:07 PM
Im melting down because I dont agree with you?You're ranting and furiously moving goalposts and loudly proclaiming your ignorance of the biggest political story of the week.

DarrinS
02-18-2018, 08:07 PM
As am I as far as Trump is concerned because he's simply too stupid.

Stupid enough to cover up someone else's deeds tho.


Whose deeds?

Pavlov
02-18-2018, 08:09 PM
According to who? The guy that tells ¨They took 2 years to get Nixon?¨How long did the Fiske/Starr investigation last?

djohn2oo8
02-18-2018, 08:09 PM
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Smh

Pavlov
02-18-2018, 08:10 PM
Whose deeds?Whose deeds indeed?

That's what investigations are for, Darrin.

Mikeanaro
02-18-2018, 08:10 PM
You're ranting and furiously moving goalposts and loudly proclaiming your ignorance of the biggest political story of the week.
You seem to be a god, and everyone who doesnt agree with you is in apeshit mode... so close to kick walls and grab a pipe to beat the shit out of the poor neighbor.

Pavlov
02-18-2018, 08:11 PM
You seem to be a god, and everyone who doesnt agree with you is in apeshit mode... so close to kick walls and grab a pipe to beat the shit out of the poor neighbor.I seem to be a guy who knows more than you do about this.

I mean you couldn't find one MSM story after we gave you the guy's full name.

lol

DarrinS
02-18-2018, 08:12 PM
Whose deeds indeed?

That's what investigations are for, Darrin.


I’ve read that the 13 Russians weren’t even charged with actual election meddling, 52 U.S.C. §30121.

Why is that?

Mikeanaro
02-18-2018, 08:13 PM
How long did the Fiske/Starr investigation last?
Not the same hyper globalized world we have today, also will all the power Cunton had he ended up pretty clean and harmless.

djohn2oo8
02-18-2018, 08:13 PM
Darrin defending Russians. Lord have mercy.

Mikeanaro
02-18-2018, 08:14 PM
I seem to be a guy who knows more than you do about this.

I mean you couldn't find one MSM story after we gave you the guy's full name.

lol
Because nobody is talking about it, MSN places like Twitter and Yahoo have nothing, but you say he is so important...

djohn2oo8
02-18-2018, 08:14 PM
Oh and Darrin. Election meddling is not the name of an actual charge :lol

Pavlov
02-18-2018, 08:15 PM
I’ve read that the 13 Russians weren’t even charged with actual election meddling, 52 U.S.C. §30121.

Why is that?I don't know.

What are the penalties for violating that particular code, Darrin?

Also, where did you read that, Darrin? Share your source with us.

djohn2oo8
02-18-2018, 08:16 PM
I don't know.

What are the penalties for violating that particular code, Darrin?

Also, where did you read that, Darrin? Share your source with us.

Defending Russians. Party over Country.

pgardn
02-18-2018, 08:22 PM
Never did. I’m skeptical of the collusion theory.

Your president and mine have admitted to the meddling?

Pavlov
02-18-2018, 08:24 PM
Because nobody is talking about it, MSN places like Twitter and Yahoo have nothing, but you say he is so important...964577433985998849

964577256688451586

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https://news.search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0LEVzgXJ4paR00AIOJXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE0 aG5oOTc3BGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDQjUxOTJfMQRzZW MDcGl2cw--?p=ricahrd+pinedo&fr2=piv-web&fr=uh3_news_web_gs

:lol

pgardn
02-18-2018, 08:24 PM
Do Republicans understand that meddling can occur without collusion? Collusion is a fairly drastic step up.

djohn2oo8
02-18-2018, 08:28 PM
Do Republicans understand that meddling can occur without collusion? Collusion is a fairly drastic step up.

It wasn't just meddling.

DarrinS
02-18-2018, 08:29 PM
I don't know.

What are the penalties for violating that particular code, Darrin?

Also, where did you read that, Darrin? Share your source with us.


https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/02/why-mueller-didnt-indict-the-russians-for-meddling-in-the-presidential-election.php

djohn2oo8
02-18-2018, 08:30 PM
Lordy powerline blog! :lol

Mikeanaro
02-18-2018, 08:30 PM
964577433985998849

964577256688451586

964574743960735745

964575510603993088

964733664339877888

964640564976201730

964585042663084032

964582328344416256

964627786731278337

https://news.search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0LEVzgXJ4paR00AIOJXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE0 aG5oOTc3BGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDQjUxOTJfMQRzZW MDcGl2cw--?p=ricahrd+pinedo&fr2=piv-web&fr=uh3_news_web_gs

:lol
And whats that? the same MSM that is attacking Trump at every second and said Hillary would win by a landslide, spreading fake news everywhere.
Twitter right now...


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Nothing on Yahoo either, which are the casual info places to people who is not 24/7 into politics.

You think those sites manage reliable info? thats sad.

pgardn
02-18-2018, 08:31 PM
It wasn't just meddling.

So it was collusion?

djohn2oo8
02-18-2018, 08:33 PM
So it was collusion?

It was interference. An attack. Collusion itself won't be a charge. It will be a charge relating to Conspiracy to defraud the US. Which is what was named in the indictment.

Pavlov
02-18-2018, 08:33 PM
And whats that?

That's twitter you apparently have no idea to search.


Nothing on Yahoo either, which are the casual info places to people who is not 24/7 into politics.


https://news.search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0LEVzgXJ4paR00AIOJXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE0 aG5oOTc3BGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDQjUxOTJfMQRzZW MDcGl2cw--?p=ricahrd+pinedo&fr2=piv-web&fr=uh3_news_web_gs

That's Yahoo News you don't know how to search.

Do you have internet searches in your country?

pgardn
02-18-2018, 08:34 PM
And whats that? the same MSM that is attacking Trump at every second and said Hillary would win by a landslide.

So fake news is predicting a Clinton win?

Who did you predict would win?

Pavlov
02-18-2018, 08:36 PM
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/02/why-mueller-didnt-indict-the-russians-for-meddling-in-the-presidential-election.phplol yonivore

So what are the penalties for breaking the code you cited, Darrin?

Mikeanaro
02-18-2018, 08:37 PM
That's twitter you apparently have no idea to search.



https://news.search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0LEVzgXJ4paR00AIOJXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE0 aG5oOTc3BGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDQjUxOTJfMQRzZW MDcGl2cw--?p=ricahrd+pinedo&fr2=piv-web&fr=uh3_news_web_gs

That's Yahoo News you don't know how to search.

Do you have internet searches in your country?
You are crazy, so people is supposed to search about info they dont even know it exists?
Thats how it works?

How the hell is someone going to know who Robert Pineda is? and then search him?

So the best news are the ones you must input a word and try to find whats hot?

DarrinS
02-18-2018, 08:37 PM
lol yonivore

So what are the penalties for breaking the code you cited, Darrin?

I have no idea.

pgardn
02-18-2018, 08:38 PM
It was interference. An attack. Collusion itself won't be a charge. It will be a charge relating to Conspiracy to defraud the US. Which is what was named in the indictment.

Ok.

Meddling, interefernce, I'm using English, not legal terms.
Oh hell yes they interferred with intent to create instability and chaos in free elections.
Attacked... We are getting into semantics here.

DarrinS
02-18-2018, 08:38 PM
How are we gonna punish those 13 Russian trollbots?

Pavlov
02-18-2018, 08:39 PM
You are crazy, so people is supposed to search about info they dont even know it exists?
Thats how it works?

How the hell is someone know who Robert Pineda is? and then search him?

So the best news are the ones you must input a word and try to find whats hot?

https://media1.tenor.com/images/c924b622b71a51d0c4aa21760c69b9f3/tenor.gif?itemid=9264828

Actually had you read most of the articles about the 13 Russians, Pinedo is included in those articles since they are related and the news of both came out at the same time.

It's a shame you read nothing about this -- but it's all your fault you look like an idiot right now.

Try moving those goalposts again though.

Pavlov
02-18-2018, 08:42 PM
I have no idea.So your big question today via yoniblog is why did Mueller not charge the Russians with a crime with no apparent penalty?

lol Darrin

DarrinS
02-18-2018, 08:42 PM
Ok.

Meddling, interefernce, I'm using English, not legal terms.
Oh hell yes they interferred with intent to create instability and chaos in free elections.
Attacked... We are getting into semantics here.

Yes. Attacked


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_UuQ8lDxKE

djohn2oo8
02-18-2018, 08:42 PM
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/archive/f/f3/20120812153730%21Flag_of_Russia.svg

djohn2oo8
02-18-2018, 08:43 PM
Yes. Attacked


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_UuQ8lDxKE

They paid operatives to conduct operations on US soil.

Pavlov
02-18-2018, 08:43 PM
Yes. AttackedDo you consider the actions of the Russians an attack, Darrin?

Yes or no.

Mikeanaro
02-18-2018, 08:44 PM
https://media1.tenor.com/images/c924b622b71a51d0c4aa21760c69b9f3/tenor.gif?itemid=9264828

Actually had you read most of the articles about the 13 Russians, Pinedo is included in those articles since they are related and the news of both came out at the same time.

It's a shame you read nothing about this -- but it's all your fault you look like an idiot right now.

Try moving those goalposts again though.
Nobody talked about Pinedo, news were about 13 Russians, is Pinedo Russian?
Now I must be a fortune teller and guess whats hot to then search it on the most popular places to find the info...

This nothing burgler will not last even a day.

DarrinS
02-18-2018, 08:44 PM
So your big question today via yoniblog is why did Mueller not charge the Russians with a crime with no apparent penalty?

lol Darrin


I didn’t say there was no penalty. I just don’t know what it is. This still avoids the question of why it was not charged.

Mikeanaro
02-18-2018, 08:46 PM
How are we gonna punish those 13 Russian trollbots?
Nothing will happen to them, extradition sounds very unrealistic.

DarrinS
02-18-2018, 08:46 PM
Do you consider the actions of the Russians an attack, Darrin?

Yes or no.


If the “wrong” candidate wins the election, it is an attack. If she won, I doubt this thread exists.

Pavlov
02-18-2018, 08:47 PM
Nobody talked about PinedoYes, they did. I just showed you they did.

news were about 13 Russians, is Pinedo Russian?News was about 13 Russians indicted and the American who pleaded guilty.


Now I must be a fortune teller and guess whats hot to then search it on the most popular places to find the info...No, you're just an ignorant idiot who can't read or use a search function.

Pavlov
02-18-2018, 08:48 PM
If the “wrong” candidate wins the election, it is an attack. If she won, I doubt this thread exists.That is not the question, Darrin.

Do you consider the actions of the Russians an attack, Darrin?

Yes or no.

djohn2oo8
02-18-2018, 08:48 PM
If the “wrong” candidate wins the election, it is an attack. If she won, I doubt this thread exists.

The question was do YOU consider it an attack?

Mikeanaro
02-18-2018, 08:52 PM
Yes, they did. I just showed you they did.
News was about 13 Russians indicted and the American who pleaded guilty.

No, you're just an ignorant idiot who can't read or use a search function.
Nope, news were about the 13 Russians but look this shit...

Separately, Mueller’s office announced that Richard Pinedo, of Santa Paula, California, had pleaded guilty to identity fraud (https://www.justice.gov/sco). Pinedo, 28, admitted to running a website that offered stolen identities to help customers get around the security measures of major online payment sites. It was not made clear whether his service had been used by the Russian operatives.

This is all they got after 1 year, lol.

Nobody talks about this and Im an idiot??? This is the biggest non relevant story ever.

I hope they talk about internet porn too.

Pavlov
02-18-2018, 08:53 PM
Nope, news were about the 13 Russians but look this shit...

Separately, Mueller’s office announced that Richard Pinedo, of Santa Paula, California, had pleaded guilty to identity fraud (https://www.justice.gov/sco). Pinedo, 28, admitted to running a website that offered stolen identities to help customers get around the security measures of major online payment sites. It was not made clear whether his service had been used by the Russian operatives. What's the link to this story?

and lol you just proved my point.

pgardn
02-18-2018, 08:55 PM
Oh my lord.

You know what?

The English language Is lacking in verbs. This is what gets people turned off. Ok. So the weapon was bots and stupid Russians fooling stupider Trump campaign managers (add if you wish) The world is an incredibly inefficient place. Fuck 007 movies.

The one thing I know for sure. A dictator for 20+ years does NOT take to any sort of democracy.

djohn2oo8
02-18-2018, 08:58 PM
Still waiting Darrin.

Mikeanaro
02-18-2018, 08:58 PM
What's the link to this story?

and lol you just proved my point.
Yes I proved you are right, and wrong at the same time.
Nobody cares about Pinedo read the title.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/feb/16/robert-mueller-russians-charged-election

Embarrassing, tbh.

pgardn
02-18-2018, 08:59 PM
If the “wrong” candidate wins the election, it is an attack. If she won, I doubt this thread exists.

No the thread does not exist.
But Putin is in a world of trouble.
There is no doubt about that.

As it is, he's completely confused with Trump. Clinton might make him sleep better. He knows what he is dealing with. And it's not pleasant.

DarrinS
02-18-2018, 08:59 PM
That is not the question, Darrin.

Do you consider the actions of the Russians an attack, Darrin?

Yes or no.


As much an attack as every other time they do it. But this time, the “wrong” candidate won.

Pavlov
02-18-2018, 08:59 PM
Still waiting Darrin.He was responding so quickly before....

Pavlov
02-18-2018, 08:59 PM
As much an attack as every other time they do it. But this time, the “wrong” candidate won.That is not yes or no, Darrin.

Do you consider the actions of the Russians an attack, Darrin?

Yes or no.

djohn2oo8
02-18-2018, 09:00 PM
As much an attack as every other time they do it. But this time, the “wrong” candidate won.

No. You still did not answer. Do you consider it an attack. Yes or No?

djohn2oo8
02-18-2018, 09:00 PM
He was responding so quickly before....

Now he is making excuses for Russians.

Pavlov
02-18-2018, 09:02 PM
Now he is making excuses for Russians.Such an easy yes or no question.

I don't why he is having such a hard time answering.

pgardn
02-18-2018, 09:02 PM
Yes I proved you are right, and wrong at the same time.
Nobody cares about Pinedo read the title.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/feb/16/robert-mueller-russians-charged-election

Embarrassing, tbh.

You realize you are reading a very good left leaning English paper.
But congrats for looking around.

Spurminator
02-18-2018, 09:02 PM
If the “wrong” candidate wins the election, it is an attack. If she won, I doubt this thread exists.

You would've started the thread :lol

djohn2oo8
02-18-2018, 09:03 PM
You would've started the thread :lol

:lol

Pavlov
02-18-2018, 09:03 PM
Yes I proved you are right, and wrong at the same time.
Nobody cares about Pinedo read the title.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/feb/16/robert-mueller-russians-charged-election

Embarrassing, tbh.You proved me completely right.

It was reported with the Russian indictments.

You don't actually read news stories.

djohn2oo8
02-18-2018, 09:04 PM
Such an easy yes or no question.

I don't why he is having such a hard time answering.

Next time he goes to a professional sports game, he can just sit during the anthem, like other people he bashes.

DarrinS
02-18-2018, 09:04 PM
That is not yes or no, Darrin.

Do you consider the actions of the Russians an attack, Darrin?

Yes or no.


I suppose. I think the bigger “attack” was that super stealthy phish scam that got Podesta’s password. He was definitely an unwitting participant.

Pavlov
02-18-2018, 09:05 PM
I suppose. I think the bigger “attack” was that super stealthy phish scam that got Podesta’s password. He was definitely an unwitting participant.That is not yes or no, Darrin.

Do you consider the actions of the Russians an attack, Darrin?

Yes or no.

djohn2oo8
02-18-2018, 09:05 PM
That is not yes or no, Darrin.

Do you consider the actions of the Russians an attack, Darrin?

Yes or no.

"I suppose" :lmao

DarrinS
02-18-2018, 09:06 PM
You would've started the thread :lol

This makes no sense, given that their obvious trollage mostly was anti-Hillary.

DarrinS
02-18-2018, 09:07 PM
That is not yes or no, Darrin.

Do you consider the actions of the Russians an attack, Darrin?

Yes or no.

It was just like 9/11 and Pearl Harbor.

Mikeanaro
02-18-2018, 09:07 PM
You proved me completely right.

It was reported with the Russian indictments.

You don't actually read news stories.
Nobody cared about Pinedo, read the title, there is no collusion,

Russian foreign ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova called the allegations “absurd”.

“Thirteen people carried out interference in the US elections? Thirteen people against special services with a budgets of billions?”

Thats all I care about info, not woulda/coulda/shouldas/conspiracy.

Pavlov
02-18-2018, 09:07 PM
It was just like 9/11 and Pearl Harbor.That is not yes or no, Darrin.

Do you consider the actions of the Russians an attack, Darrin?

Yes or no.

djohn2oo8
02-18-2018, 09:08 PM
It was just like 9/11 and Pearl Harbor.

Was it an attack yes or no?

Pavlov
02-18-2018, 09:08 PM
Nobody cared about Pinedo, read the title, there is no collusion,

Russian foreign ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova called the allegations “absurd”.

“Thirteen people carried out interference in the US elections? Thirteen people against special services with a budgets of billions?”

Thats all I care about info, not woulda/coulda/shouldas/conspiracy.You don't read, you move goalposts and you worship Trump.

Mikeanaro
02-18-2018, 09:09 PM
You realize you are reading a very good left leaning English paper.
But congrats for looking around.
Sure, I told you I look info from lots of places to make a judgement.

Mikeanaro
02-18-2018, 09:11 PM
You don't read, you move goalposts and you worship Trump.
GO GO TRUMP MY PIZZA EATING MASTER! :claw

LETS MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN! OBESE PEOPLE FARTING AND NO PAIN! :bobo

DarrinS
02-18-2018, 09:12 PM
That is not yes or no, Darrin.

Do you consider the actions of the Russians an attack, Darrin?

Yes or no.


No, I don’t. The Russians didn’t make these candidates unlikeable. They certainly didn’t make her cough up lung biscuits and faint on the regular. They didn’t reasease the Billy Bush tape.

Pavlov
02-18-2018, 09:14 PM
NoThat only took an hour.

Thanks for letting us finally know you don't give a shit about this country.

I suspected but now everyone can see for themselves.

DarrinS
02-18-2018, 09:18 PM
That only took an hour.

Thanks for letting us finally know you don't give a shit about this country.

I suspected but now everyone can see for themselves.


I’m not afraid of the Russians.

DarrinS
02-18-2018, 09:20 PM
I wasn’t afraid of the Russians when Romney warned they were the biggest geopolitical threat (and Dems lol’ed), and I’m not afraid of them now.

pgardn
02-18-2018, 09:24 PM
Sure, I told you I look info from lots of places to make a judgement.

As I recall, the Guardian was not one of them.


And personally I don't know what an "attack" is in the context of what Putin has done. You can be sure of this. You read the Guardian, you will understand what a bastard Putin is.

Pavlov
02-18-2018, 09:24 PM
I’m not afraid of the Russians.


I wasn’t afraid of the Russians when Romney warned they were the biggest geopolitical threat (and Dems lol’ed), and I’m not afraid of them now.You're just the lazy fool they like tbh.

What are you afraid of Darrin? Geopolitically speaking.

djohn2oo8
02-18-2018, 09:32 PM
That only took an hour.

Thanks for letting us finally know you don't give a shit about this country.

I suspected but now everyone can see for themselves.

Party over country.

Mikeanaro
02-18-2018, 09:38 PM
One thing for sure is I dont give a fuck about the ASG game, thats why I prefer to be here reading political views.

Spurminator
02-18-2018, 09:42 PM
This makes no sense, given that their obvious trollage mostly was anti-Hillary.

Clarification: If the trollage was anti-Trump, and Hillary won, you would have started the thread.

But to your point, if Hillary had won in spite of the trollage, and there had been an investigation into Russian interference in Trump's favor, I can only imagine the amount of hysteria that would have ensued on the right.

pgardn
02-18-2018, 09:57 PM
One thing for sure is I dont give a fuck about the ASG game, thats why I prefer to be here reading political views.

Pardon my ignorance.

What is the ASG game?

Mikeanaro
02-18-2018, 10:33 PM
Pardon my ignorance.

What is the ASG game?
ALL STAR GAY game.

djohn2oo8
02-19-2018, 07:00 AM
965554054469369857
But Trump said Putin didn't do it!!!

DarrinS
02-19-2018, 09:04 AM
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-a-non-alarmist-reading-of-the-mueller-russia-indictment/article/2649445

djohn2oo8
02-19-2018, 09:15 AM
Comrade Darrin.

DarrinS
02-19-2018, 09:23 AM
Comrade Darrin.

Don’t worry — Kyle will Tweet again

Brazil
02-19-2018, 09:43 AM
so TSA Cris and Darrin are russian trolls ?

legit question tbh

djohn2oo8
02-19-2018, 10:00 AM
965435813138980864

djohn2oo8
02-19-2018, 10:01 AM
so TSA Cris and Darrin are russian trolls ?

legit question tbh

seems to be

djohn2oo8
02-19-2018, 10:02 AM
965435813138980864

http://i.imgur.com/ozqMql5.gif
:lol

florige
02-19-2018, 10:05 AM
965435813138980864


Guilty people are always paranoid.

DarrinS
02-19-2018, 10:17 AM
so TSA Cris and Darrin are russian trolls ?

legit question tbh

nyet

Brazil
02-19-2018, 10:21 AM
nyet

that's weird, you act exactly like them tbh...

boutons_deux
02-19-2018, 10:37 AM
Paranoia is a fear of threats that are unreal, highly improbable, purely imagimary

Trash isnt paranoid, he knows he's fucked

RandomGuy
02-19-2018, 12:52 PM
https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/atd-indictments-0216.png?w=575&h=785&quality=90&strip=info

RandomGuy
02-19-2018, 12:56 PM
I wasn’t afraid of the Russians when Romney warned they were the biggest geopolitical threat (and Dems lol’ed), and I’m not afraid of them now.

This post highlights the general failure of conservative "thinking", namely that reality can't change.

At the time of Romney's comments Russia wasn't really engaging in systematic information warfare against the west.

Russia has also in the interim taken some steps to rectify their creaking military. Not that they have the hardware to tip any balance of power, but their cyber warfare capabilities have been pretty good, especially since it is a lot cheaper.

RandomGuy
02-19-2018, 12:59 PM
so TSA Cris and Darrin are russian trolls ?

legit question tbh

Darrin, no.

If anyone, I would suspect hater or Chris, although the odds are heavily against either being an actual paid Russian. They are merely idiots, albeit useful ones for destability campaigns.

boutons_deux
02-19-2018, 01:11 PM
The Russian journalist who helped uncover election interference is confounded by the Mueller indictments

A lot of Russian conservatives were proud.

They said: “Look at what Russians can do! Only 90 people with $2 million made America scared! We are strong!”

And for conservative people here, they see that Americans have CNN, Radio Free Europe, etc., that cover Russia.

They say, “Why can’t we establish groups in America and have our own influence?”

That's how conservative people think here.

They think this was normal.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/02/18/the-russian-journalist-who-helped-uncover-election-meddling-is-confounded-by-the-mueller-indictments/?utm_term=.ec48ab6032f5

With illegit PVL so-called Pres Trash's "victory", the Information War is fully engaged.

USA has been dicking around in other countries for decades, like regime change, etc, and now USA has gotten a NASTY DOSE of its own toxic medicine.

boutons_deux
02-19-2018, 01:19 PM
Trump, panicking, reveals the depths of his awfulness

It was

a new low, hiding behind the bodies of dead children and teachers to shield himself from accountability.

He blamed Democrats for not passing gun control when it was Republicans who torpedoed a compromise bill after the Sandy Hook massacre.

Trump also lashed out at national security adviser H.R. McMaster, who said at the Munich Security Conference there was “incontrovertible (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/mcmaster-says-evidence-of-russian-meddling-is-now-really-incontrovertible-as-he-woos-european-allies/2018/02/17/4a27f560-10e8-11e8-a68c-e9374188170e_story.html?utm_term=.85c832f2eac6)” evidence of Russian interference.

the FBI and Justice Department have never said the election was not affected; there is no way to determine how many voters, if any, changed their minds.

(Trump, however, did mention the Democratic National Committee hack about 140 times in the closing days of the campaign, so he must have thought it was useful.)

in fact, Christopher Steele vainly tried to get others to hear that Trump was being aided by the Russians.

(“Conspiring” to reveal the extent of Trump’s Russia connection means doing what

Donald Trump Jr. and others associated with his campaign did not: namely, patriotically report Russian interference to the authorities.)

Aside from the blizzard of lies, one is struck by how frantic Trump sounds.

The number and looniness of the tweets arguably exceed anything he has previously done.

His conduct reaffirms the basic outline of an obstruction charge:

Desperate to disable a Russia probe that would be personally embarrassing to him, he has tried in many ways to interfere with and end the investigation.

Trump’s meltdown over two days is likely to re-raise questions about his mental stability and temperamental fitness to govern.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2018/02/19/trump-panicking-reveals-the-depths-of-his-awfulness/?utm_term=.c423f3076a2d

boutons_deux
02-19-2018, 01:25 PM
Jared Kushner Has A 'Bulls Eye' On Him, McGahn Frustrated With Bottlenecked Clearance Situation (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/18/1742538/-Jared-Kushner-Has-A-Bulls-Eye-On-Him-McGahn-Frustrated-With-Bottlenecked-Clearance-Situation)

According to the memo John Kelly issued on Friday saying that all interim top secret clearances will be revoked by February 23,

Jared Kushner’s life is about to change dramatically.

White House Counsel Donald McGahn and other Trump administration officials have been so vexed by Jared Kushner’s months-long inability to obtain a permanent security clearance that they have hesitated to get involved in other cases with potential problems

they cannot take action on other people whose background checks have dragged on because they did not take similar steps with Kushner

He needs to get his clearance approved by Friday and so far nobody knowledgeable believes that he can do it. Kelly’s overhaul of the security clearance process is taking him out of the game. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/overhaul-of-white-house-security-clearance-process-could-threaten-kushners-access/2018/02/16/09f2dc9e-11b5-11e8-9065-e55346f6de81_story.html?utm_term=.d228205c2649)

things do not look bright for Kushner’s future. The fact that

he has requested more classified information than any other White House staffer has not gone unnoticed


the failure to completely disclose all contacts would jeopardize an applicant’s chances of obtaining final clearance.


Kushner is not exactly forthcoming.

He not only

attempted to set up a back channel with the Kremlin,

he tried to sell nuclear reactors to the Saudis.

He is the “senior administration official” whom Michael Flynn referenced in his guilty plea.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/18/1742538/-Jared-Kushner-Has-A-Bulls-Eye-On-Him-McGahn-Frustrated-With-Bottlenecked-Clearance-Situation?detail=emaildkre

and there is the question of Kushner company being stuck with huge debts, which would ordinarily make him a target for manipulation and blackmail, in addition to his and Ivanka's huge PERSONAL debts.

Pavlov
02-19-2018, 01:30 PM
https://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Jared-Kushner-wings-clipped-in-the-White-House-900x440.jpg
To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.

Chris
02-19-2018, 03:13 PM
965586735278239745

Pavlov
02-19-2018, 03:15 PM
965586735278239745:lol probably just spreading fake news again like he did for the Russians.

clambake
02-19-2018, 03:17 PM
tick tock

Reck
02-19-2018, 03:22 PM
965586735278239745

So Chris, Flynn knew he was innocent but pleaded guilty anyways because?

djohn2oo8
02-19-2018, 03:31 PM
Trump back to tweeting about Russia again. How about enforcing those sanctions at any time now lol

vy65
02-19-2018, 03:39 PM
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-a-non-alarmist-reading-of-the-mueller-russia-indictment/article/2649445

Hyperbole aside, are you ok with Russian interference with the US electoral process?

Pavlov
02-19-2018, 03:57 PM
Hyperbole aside, are you ok with Russian interference with the US electoral process?Yes, he is very OK with it. He doesn't even consider it an attack.


That is not yes or no, Darrin.

Do you consider the actions of the Russians an attack, Darrin?

Yes or no.


No, I don’t.

Chucho
02-19-2018, 04:09 PM
The 37-page indictment with testimony from social media executives before congressional intelligence committees — and there isn't much in the indictment that the intel committees didn't already know — the Russian operation, while warranting serious U.S. punishment, emerges as a small, poorly funded operation with a level of effectiveness that is impossible to measure but could be near zero.

This is basically the equivalent of the Nunes memo. It's almost jack shit and essentially worthless. It's funny watching some people change and downgrade their stances on this, specifically the same people who laughed and pointed out the Chrises and TSAs doing the same thing.

Everyone's "BOOM"s have warranted jack shit on the scale of things. I'd like to "just you wait" on the Mueller Investigation, but I've lost confidence in it.

Pavlov
02-19-2018, 04:14 PM
This is basically the equivalent of the Nunes memo. It's almost jack shit and essentially worthless. It's funny watching some people change and downgrade their stances on this, specifically the same people who laughed and pointed out the Chrises and TSAs doing the same thing.

Everyone's "BOOM"s have warranted jack shit on the scale of things. I'd like to "just you wait" on the Mueller Investigation, but I've lost confidence in it.From a legal standpoint, it's pretty significant. Even Trump can't deny Russian interference at this point and this is merely one operation. As the graphic showed, this investigation is moving at lightning speed no matter what the Trumpistas say.

Chris
02-19-2018, 04:29 PM
965662814495948800

Pavlov
02-19-2018, 04:34 PM
965662814495948800
The reality is, sadly, I don't see much difference between the Trump administration and the Obama administration.

I thought there would be this, these floodgates would open up with all the documents we wanted from the Department of State, the Department of Justice, the Pentagon. In many ways, it's almost worse because we're getting nothing, and that's terribly frustrating.

lol

Chucho
02-19-2018, 04:35 PM
From a legal standpoint, it's pretty significant. Even Trump can't deny Russian interference at this point and this is merely one operation. As the graphic showed, this investigation is moving at lightning speed no matter what the Trumpistas say.

I know that. What's funny is the tone of "RUSSIA COLLUDED WITH TRUMP" from the dJohns and other anti-Trumpers to "NOW TRUMP CAN'T DENY THERE WASN'T MEDDLING..." but won't eat the egg of how sure they were that he was colluding with Russia.

It's basically the Left's Nunes memo in the sense that it was supposed to be earth shattering and it's a bunch of nothing. In the grand scheme of everything, 13 troll farms that worked BOTH ways, had such minuscule influence that pounding chests with "NOW TRUMP CAN'T SAY THIS WASN'T REAL" is the same as people who were salivating at what the Nunes memo to be released.

And aside from some indictments that aren't hurting Trump, no matter the speed of the investigation, nothing too relevant or harming is coming out in favor to "TRUMP BAD MAN" thinkers.

Pavlov
02-19-2018, 04:43 PM
I know that. What's funny is the tone of "RUSSIA COLLUDED WITH TRUMP" from the dJohns and other anti-Trumpers to "NOW TRUMP CAN'T DENY THERE WASN'T MEDDLING..." but won't eat the egg of how sure they were that he was colluding with Russia.

It's basically the Left's Nunes memo in the sense that it was supposed to be earth shattering and it's a bunch of nothing. In the grand scheme of everything, 13 troll farms that worked BOTH ways, had such minuscule influence that pounding chests with "NOW TRUMP CAN'T SAY THIS WASN'T REAL" is the same as people who were salivating at what the Nunes memo to be released.

And aside from some indictments that aren't hurting Trump, no matter the speed of the investigation, nothing too relevant or harming is coming out in favor to "TRUMP BAD MAN" thinkers.I'm afraid it doesn't slow the anti-Trump momentum much at all. It could be seen to lay the foundation for conspiracy prosecutions of Americans down the line.

I've always maintained that Trump is too stupid to actively participate in a true collusion scheme, but he is definitely stupid enough to be susceptible to blackmail and to cover something up after the fact.

One underrated thing about these indictments is that it completely legitimizes the Mueller investigation. the cries to shut it down are going away. Only die-hards like the ones you find here are still trying that talking point.

Chucho
02-19-2018, 04:50 PM
I'm afraid it doesn't slow the anti-Trump momentum much at all. It could be seen to lay the foundation for conspiracy prosecutions of Americans down the line.

I've always maintained that Trump is too stupid to actively participate in a true collusion scheme, but he is definitely stupid enough to be susceptible to blackmail and to cover something up after the fact.

One underrated thing about these indictments is that it completely legitimizes the Mueller investigation. the cries to shut it down are going away. Only die-hards like the ones you find here are still trying that talking point.


He is indeed incredibly stupid. I think he's a stupider, less racist, less charismatic Woodrow Wilson, less evil too.

Chris
02-19-2018, 04:53 PM
965703468101992448

Pavlov
02-19-2018, 04:53 PM
965703468101992448lol gentry Breitbart.

TSA
02-19-2018, 04:58 PM
I've always maintained that Trump is too stupid to actively participate in a true collusion scheme

And so begins The Walkback

Pavlov
02-19-2018, 05:01 PM
And so begins The WalkbackSorry, Chuck E. Cheese. It's what I've said from the beginning.

Members of his campaign? That could be a very different story.

Chris
02-19-2018, 05:02 PM
And so begins The Walkback

*Risitas

Chris
02-19-2018, 05:07 PM
965703275793256449
https://media3.giphy.com/media/11aitZSSRhHYuQ/giphy.gif

Pavlov
02-19-2018, 05:10 PM
965703275793256449
https://media3.giphy.com/media/11aitZSSRhHYuQ/giphy.giflol chrisbot random gif generator activated.

DMC
02-19-2018, 05:22 PM
This reminds me of the Whitewater shit, the Starr report and a host of other investigations that didn't do shit in the end because they are just placating the public.

Splits
02-19-2018, 05:29 PM
965693119424598016

Kuckner

Chris
02-19-2018, 05:31 PM
^nothing to do with Russia

boutons_deux
02-19-2018, 05:33 PM
Kushner is so deep in debt, business and personal, that he and Ivanka are prime targets for being compromised, corrupted (even more).

Is this why neophyte geopolitician and security-risk JK has been requesting more classified info than anybody else in the WH.

Looking for ways to use the info to cover his debts?

Provide info to foreigners in return for cash?

I'm sure Mueller wants to know

Pavlov
02-19-2018, 05:33 PM
^nothing to do with RussiaAdoptions.

Chris
02-19-2018, 05:38 PM
Guessing Mueller is tired and wants to go home. Basically begging Trump to end it imo

Pavlov
02-19-2018, 05:40 PM
Guessing Mueller is tired and wants to go home. Basically begging Trump to end it imolol Chris praying for it to end.

He's terrified.

clambake
02-19-2018, 05:42 PM
follow the money

tick


tock

Reck
02-19-2018, 05:58 PM
Guessing Mueller is tired and wants to go home. Basically begging Trump to end it imo

Doubt it. How much money is he getting paid per months?

Probably in the millions. The longer this drags the richer he gets.

Chris
02-19-2018, 06:06 PM
How much money is he getting paid per months?

We don't know. The Justice Department won't release the budget.

boutons_deux
02-19-2018, 06:13 PM
Trump needs to ask Mitch McConnell why President Obama didn't do something about Russia meddling (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/19/1742878/-Trump-needs-to-ask-Mitch-McConnell-why-President-Obama-didn-t-do-something-about-Russia-meddling)

Donald J. Trump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)
(https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)✔@realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)


Obama was President up to, and beyond, the 2016 Election.

So why didn’t he do something about Russian meddling?
1:55 PM - Feb 19, 2018 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/965676314576543744)

About that. Let’s go back to September 2016, when President

Obama went to congressional leadership (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/7/11/1679616/-What-did-Paul-Ryan-and-Mitch-McConnell-know-about-Trump-Russia-collusion-and-when-did-they-know-it)asking for a "show of solidarity and bipartisan unity" in publicly condemning Russia for interference.

Remember what happened?

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell refused to sign on. He blocked that condemnation of Russia.

The White House wasn’t willing to push that, according (https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/23/mitch-mcconnell-russia-obama-joe-biden-359531) to Vice President Joe Biden, because it was clear Republicans—McConnell leading the charge—would just double-down on Trump’s “rigged” rhetoric.

“What do you think would have happened?

Would things have gotten better, or

would it further look like we were trying to delegitimize the electoral process,

because of our opponent?”

And that would just play in to Russia’s hand in further delegitimizing the process.

more than 500 representatives and senators voted to maintain and strengthen them. Those would be the

sanctions Trump is now refusing to impose (https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/29/russia-sanctions-white-house-congress-376813).

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1742878

clambake
02-19-2018, 06:15 PM
over a billion in debt.

follow the money


tick
tock

Mikeanaro
02-19-2018, 06:27 PM
Mueller is a clown

https://i.redd.it/185gfb234dfz.jpg

Tick Tock

https://truthfeednews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/mueller-trump-supporters-01-800x416.jpg

RandomGuy
02-19-2018, 06:33 PM
Sorry, Chuck E. Cheese. It's what I've said from the beginning.

Members of his campaign? That could be a very different story.

#LOLBestpeople

Trump's only care for people has been loyalty, over anything else. The tone at the top is that loyalty is the currency of the realm, not merit.

That is a huge red flag for fraud, waste, abuse.

DarrinS
02-19-2018, 07:52 PM
Hyperbole aside, are you ok with Russian interference with the US electoral process?

I think the Fakebook trolling is more of a nuisance. I’m more interested to hear about the hacking of DNC and Podesta. None of it is OK, but the latter is definitely more egregious.

boutons_deux
02-19-2018, 08:21 PM
As Repugs/right wing hate media continue every day to try to de-legitimize the FBI,

law-and-order (for non-whites) conservatives beat the drums for Pres pardons for everyone, the poor things, and pardon NOW!

Conservatives urge Trump to grant pardons in Russia probe

As special counsel Robert Mueller builds his case, relatives of Michael Flynn are among those pressing the president to use his unique legal power and 'put these defendants out of their misery.'

https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/6073bfe/2147483647/resize/1160x/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F54%2F63%2 F6b67f9d54ba09a0bd573a47ca98e%2Fmichael-flynn-donald-trump-ap-1160.jpg

President Donald Trump’s supporters are issuing increasingly bold calls for presidential pardons to limit the investigation’s impact.

The pleas for mercy mainly extend to the four former Trump aides who have already been swept up in the Russia probe:

former campaign manager Paul Manafort,

former deputy campaign manager Rick Gates,

former national security adviser Michael Flynn and

former campaign foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos.

But they don’t stop there.

“It’s kind of cruel :lol

what’s going on right now and the president

should put these defendants out of their misery,” :lol

said Larry Klayman, a conservative legal activist.

“I think he should pardon everybody — and pardon himself.”

mass pardons would be another means of defying the special counsel.

allegations of anti-Trump bias among Justice Department and FBI officials circulated by conservatives would justify granting clemency to Trump associates like Flynn.

“The whole super structure of the Russia investigation is compromised,” Fitton said.

“Those caught up in it deserve some protection.

Rather than just let the virus run its course,

it’d be appropriate for the president to consider pardons for people who are caught up in the prosecution.”

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/19/trump-russia-pardons-mueller-flynn-417094 (https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/19/trump-russia-pardons-mueller-flynn-417094)

See how that works? slander the FBI as biased, so all the crimes proven to have been committed by Trash and his mafiya aren't really crimes.

boutons_deux
02-19-2018, 09:18 PM
Charles Blow: The Russians Exploited America's Racist Past to Swing the Election for Trump

They used legitimate grievances to force young black men and women to lay down their best weapon: the vote.

The Russian government exploited America's shameful racist history in order to elect a virulently racist man as President.

As Charles Blow writes in his Monday column, "the black vote was specifically under attac (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/18/opinion/black-vote-russia.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region&region=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region)k, from sources foreign and domestic.

And this attack appeared to be particularly focused on young black activist-minded voters passionate about social justice: The 'Woke Vote'.""

"The tragic irony," he continues, "is that these young people,

many of whom already felt like the American political system was failing them,

were encouraged to lay down one of the most powerful political tools they have (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/18/opinion/black-vote-russia.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region&region=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region),

thereby ensuring an amplification of their own oppressions."

The Russian disinformation campaign used the legitimate grievances Alexander refers to, like

Hillary Clinton's infamous "superpredators" comment in references to young black criminals, and

other economic and crime policies enacted during the Clinton administration,

which Bill Clinton may have written, but Hillary Clinton publically supported, to encourage black voters to stay home on Election Day.

"On or about October 16, 2016, Defendants and their co-conspirators used

the Instagram account ‘Woke Blacks (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/18/opinion/black-vote-russia.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region&region=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region)’

to post the following message:

‘Particular hype and hatred for Trump is misleading the people and forcing Blacks to vote Killary.

We cannot resort to the lesser of two devils.

Then we’d surely be better off without voting AT ALL.’ "

https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/charles-blow-russians-hacked-woke-black-vote

DarrinS
02-19-2018, 09:41 PM
Lol, Charles Blow

pgardn
02-19-2018, 09:51 PM
Mueller just opened up two new avenues to look into.
He may be "in office" longer than our president.
The pigeons are starting to sing. More pleading, more tendrils open up.

Mueller is gonna feast on liars. And more Russians better stay in Russia. Forget that vacation on those Southern European beaches. Go to Crimea, the place Putin did not have troops...it's yours now.

DMC
02-19-2018, 10:00 PM
Mueller just opened up two new avenues to look into.
He may be "in office" longer than our president.
The pigeons are starting to sing. More pleading, more tendrils open up.

Mueller is gonna feast on liars. And more Russians better stay in Russia. Forget that vacation on those Southern European beaches. Go to Crimea, the place Putin did not have troops...it's yours now.

Can't wait for the cliffhanger before next season starts tbh

Chucho
02-19-2018, 10:02 PM
Charles Blow: The Russians Exploited America's Racist Past to Swing the Election for Trump

They used legitimate grievances to force young black men and women to lay down their best weapon: the vote.

The Russian government exploited America's shameful racist history in order to elect a virulently racist man as President.

As Charles Blow writes in his Monday column, "the black vote was specifically under attac (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/18/opinion/black-vote-russia.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region&region=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region)k, from sources foreign and domestic.

And this attack appeared to be particularly focused on young black activist-minded voters passionate about social justice: The 'Woke Vote'.""

"The tragic irony," he continues, "is that these young people,

many of whom already felt like the American political system was failing them,

were encouraged to lay down one of the most powerful political tools they have (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/18/opinion/black-vote-russia.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region&region=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region),

thereby ensuring an amplification of their own oppressions."

The Russian disinformation campaign used the legitimate grievances Alexander refers to, like

Hillary Clinton's infamous "superpredators" comment in references to young black criminals, and

other economic and crime policies enacted during the Clinton administration,

which Bill Clinton may have written, but Hillary Clinton publically supported, to encourage black voters to stay home on Election Day.

"On or about October 16, 2016, Defendants and their co-conspirators used

the Instagram account ‘Woke Blacks (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/18/opinion/black-vote-russia.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region&region=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region)’

to post the following message:

‘Particular hype and hatred for Trump is misleading the people and forcing Blacks to vote Killary.

We cannot resort to the lesser of two devils.

Then we’d surely be better off without voting AT ALL.’ "

https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/charles-blow-russians-hacked-woke-black-vote



:lmao

DMC
02-19-2018, 10:05 PM
Charles Blow: The Russians Exploited America's Racist Past to Swing the Election for Trump

They used legitimate grievances to force young black men and women to lay down their best weapon: the vote.

The Russian government exploited America's shameful racist history in order to elect a virulently racist man as President.

As Charles Blow writes in his Monday column, "the black vote was specifically under attac (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/18/opinion/black-vote-russia.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region®ion=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region)k, from sources foreign and domestic.

And this attack appeared to be particularly focused on young black activist-minded voters passionate about social justice: The 'Woke Vote'.""

"The tragic irony," he continues, "is that these young people,

many of whom already felt like the American political system was failing them,

were encouraged to lay down one of the most powerful political tools they have (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/18/opinion/black-vote-russia.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region®ion=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region),

thereby ensuring an amplification of their own oppressions."

The Russian disinformation campaign used the legitimate grievances Alexander refers to, like

Hillary Clinton's infamous "superpredators" comment in references to young black criminals, and

other economic and crime policies enacted during the Clinton administration,

which Bill Clinton may have written, but Hillary Clinton publically supported, to encourage black voters to stay home on Election Day.

"On or about October 16, 2016, Defendants and their co-conspirators used

the Instagram account ‘Woke Blacks (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/18/opinion/black-vote-russia.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region®ion=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region)’

to post the following message:

‘Particular hype and hatred for Trump is misleading the people and forcing Blacks to vote Killary.

We cannot resort to the lesser of two devils.

Then we’d surely be better off without voting AT ALL.’ "

https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/charles-blow-russians-hacked-woke-black-vote



:lol not knowing who you're voting for until you read an instagram.

pgardn
02-19-2018, 10:18 PM
Can't wait for the cliffhanger before next season starts tbh

One must be methodical when the rats leave the ship and more come aboard. And the stories of the Trump campaign managers in certain states getting duped.

"Florida is a purple state but we must appoint it red"
Great comedy. You speak weird, but ok. Show me the money.
The little stories make the movie.

boutons_deux
02-19-2018, 10:18 PM
Robert Mueller Bulldozes Trump’s Red Line By Investigating Jared Kushner For Financial Crimes

Robert Mueller has gone exactly where Trump didn’t want him to go.

The Special Counsel is investigating Trump son in law Jared Kushner for financial crimes.CNN reported, (https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/19/politics/mueller-investigation-kushner-foreign-financing-efforts/index.html) “Special counsel Robert Mueller’s interest in Jared Kushner has expanded beyond his contacts with Russia and

now includes his efforts to secure financing for his company from foreign investors during the presidential transition,

according to people familiar with the inquiry.

This is the first indication that Mueller is exploring Kushner’s discussions with potential non-Russian foreign investors, including in China.

”Trump warned Mueller in July 2017 not to investigate his family or his finances, (https://www.politicususa.com/2017/07/19/jaws-drop-trump-threatens-fire-robert-mueller-investigates-finances.html) :lol

“Mr. Trump said Mr. Mueller was running an office rife with conflicts of interest and warned that investigators would cross a red line if they delve into Trump family finances unrelated to Russia.

Mr. Trump never said he would order the Justice Department to fire Mr. Mueller,

nor would he outline circumstances under which he might do so.

But he left open the possibility as he expressed deep grievance over an investigation that has taken a political toll in the six months since he took office.”

https://www.politicususa.com/2018/02/19/mueller-trump-kushner-investigation.html

DMC
02-19-2018, 10:27 PM
One must be methodical when the rats leave the ship and more come aboard. And the stories of the Trump campaign managers in certain states getting duped.

"Florida is a purple state but we must appoint it red"
Great comedy. You speak weird, but ok. Show me the money.
The little stories make the movie.
Sure. Wake me up when someone who matters actually gets indicted.

pgardn
02-19-2018, 10:35 PM
Sure. Wake me up when someone who matters actually gets indicted.

You were asleep when Flynn went down.
Just concentrate, I know you want Trump but that might take a while. When he becomes an ordinary citizen ex president the odds will rise.

DMC
02-19-2018, 10:59 PM
You were asleep when Flynn went down.
Just concentrate, I know you want Trump but that might take a while. When he becomes an ordinary citizen ex president the odds will rise.

Sure

Meanwhile back at the ranch, grandma is jerking off indians as fast as they come

DarrinS
02-19-2018, 11:15 PM
MSM promoting Russian anti Trump protest



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xadTTqApges

Pavlov
02-19-2018, 11:21 PM
lol "promoting"

This is a big deal to you, Darrin.

djohn2oo8
02-20-2018, 12:55 AM
965711886049136640
That nigga Schiff knows.

djohn2oo8
02-20-2018, 12:56 AM
Sure. Wake me up when someone who matters actually gets indicted.

Wake me up when anybody asks what you think.

Chucho
02-20-2018, 01:03 AM
Wake me up when anybody asks what you think.
LOL, you're mad.

djohn2oo8
02-20-2018, 01:17 AM
LOL, you're mad.

That's the best you got? I'm calm. Enjoying what's happening.

djohn2oo8
02-20-2018, 01:30 AM
965793159912611841
lol

Chucho
02-20-2018, 01:34 AM
That's the best you got? I'm calm. Enjoying what's happening.

I enjoy watching you lower your expectations and keeping up the bragaddocio like this is exactly what you were expecting and it's not even close to what you were getting all wet about. Nunes Memo 2.0.

At least you've got some technicalities you can jerk off to.

djohn2oo8
02-20-2018, 01:44 AM
I enjoy watching you lower your expectations and keeping up the bragaddocio like this is exactly what you were expecting and it's not even close to what you were getting all wet about. Nunes Memo 2.0.

At least you've got some technicalities you can jerk off to.

Who is lowering their expectations? I know how this will end. Hence, why I am enjoying it all.

Warlord23
02-20-2018, 07:12 AM
The one thing that has constantly amazed me over the last year. Conservatives typically are high on patriotism and love for country.

On the one hand you have Robert Mueller, recipient of a Bronze Star, a Purple Heart, Navy Commendation Medals, a Combat Action Ribbon and a South Vietnam Gallantry Cross. On the other hand you have an orange draft-dodging shitstain whose "personal Vietnam" was not catching STDs as he slept around with porn stars, and who has lied at the rate of about 4 times a day.

A majority of self-described conservatives support their Orange Calf to the extent that they want the lifelong Republican Mueller fired and the investigation stopped. In their opinion, the entire National Security apparatus is lying while the Trump team is the only source of truth.

When did the GOP base become so unhinged? If Jesus himself came down to Earth and denounced Trump, they'd claim that He was a Deep State stooge.

djohn2oo8
02-20-2018, 08:55 AM
The one thing that has constantly amazed me over the last year. Conservatives typically are high on patriotism and love for country.

On the one hand you have Robert Mueller, recipient of a Bronze Star, a Purple Heart, Navy Commendation Medals, a Combat Action Ribbon and a South Vietnam Gallantry Cross. On the other hand you have an orange draft-dodging shitstain whose "personal Vietnam" was not catching STDs as he slept around with porn stars, and who has lied at the rate of about 4 times a day.

A majority of self-described conservatives support their Orange Calf to the extent that they want the lifelong Republican Mueller fired and the investigation stopped. In their opinion, the entire National Security apparatus is lying while the Trump team is the only source of truth.

When did the GOP base become so unhinged? If Jesus himself came down to Earth and denounced Trump, they'd claim that He was a Deep State stooge.

http://i.imgur.com/lNEg8.gif

djohn2oo8
02-20-2018, 08:55 AM
Trump already tweeting about Russia this morning :lol

djohn2oo8
02-20-2018, 08:57 AM
965934185943830528
lol cracking hard

Chucho
02-20-2018, 09:33 AM
Who is lowering their expectations? I know how this will end. Hence, why I am enjoying it all.

You've been wrong all along this far. You know sooooooo much.

djohn2oo8
02-20-2018, 09:38 AM
965951888935018497

Trill Clinton
02-20-2018, 09:53 AM
The one thing that has constantly amazed me over the last year. Conservatives typically are high on patriotism and love for country.

On the one hand you have Robert Mueller, recipient of a Bronze Star, a Purple Heart, Navy Commendation Medals, a Combat Action Ribbon and a South Vietnam Gallantry Cross. On the other hand you have an orange draft-dodging shitstain whose "personal Vietnam" was not catching STDs as he slept around with porn stars, and who has lied at the rate of about 4 times a day.

A majority of self-described conservatives support their Orange Calf to the extent that they want the lifelong Republican Mueller fired and the investigation stopped. In their opinion, the entire National Security apparatus is lying while the Trump team is the only source of truth.

When did the GOP base become so unhinged? If Jesus himself came down to Earth and denounced Trump, they'd claim that He was a Deep State stooge.


http://www.thecoli.com/media/slow-clap-from-shottas.64/full?d=1480046625

djohn2oo8
02-20-2018, 09:57 AM
965959197463629830

djohn2oo8
02-20-2018, 10:00 AM
965960443993968641
That's alot of goddamn guilty pleas for a nothingburger.

djohn2oo8
02-20-2018, 10:02 AM
965959604491386880

Mark Celibate
02-20-2018, 10:08 AM
965951888935018497
Has nothing at all to do with trump, isn’t this pertaining to Manaforts consulting work long before trump?

djohn2oo8
02-20-2018, 10:09 AM
Has nothing at all to do with trump, isn’t this pertaining to Manaforts consulting work long before trump?

Everything has to do with Trump. That's what the probe is for. Now sit down and shut the fuck up until you are asked to speak, comrade. :toast.

clambake
02-20-2018, 10:10 AM
Has nothing at all to do with trump, isn’t this pertaining to Manaforts consulting work long before trump?

its really about money laundering.


tick

tock

djohn2oo8
02-20-2018, 10:14 AM
965966897119408128

djohn2oo8
02-20-2018, 10:15 AM
965966897119408128

965967133694922752

RandomGuy
02-20-2018, 10:17 AM
The one thing that has constantly amazed me over the last year. Conservatives typically are high on patriotism and love for country.

On the one hand you have Robert Mueller, recipient of a Bronze Star, a Purple Heart, Navy Commendation Medals, a Combat Action Ribbon and a South Vietnam Gallantry Cross. On the other hand you have an orange draft-dodging shitstain whose "personal Vietnam" was not catching STDs as he slept around with porn stars, and who has lied at the rate of about 4 times a day.

A majority of self-described conservatives support their Orange Calf to the extent that they want the lifelong Republican Mueller fired and the investigation stopped. In their opinion, the entire National Security apparatus is lying while the Trump team is the only source of truth.

When did the GOP base become so unhinged? If Jesus himself came down to Earth and denounced Trump, they'd claim that He was a Deep State stooge.

Pretty much. He wouldn't be the "real" Jesus.

RandomGuy
02-20-2018, 10:18 AM
Has nothing at all to do with trump, isn’t this pertaining to Manaforts consulting work long before trump?

Translation:

"But Cousin, why a spoon, why not a knife or a fork?"

(facepalm)

djohn2oo8
02-20-2018, 10:20 AM
965968309358333952
:lmao Holy fuck this week gon be gud.

djohn2oo8
02-20-2018, 10:24 AM
MAGA - Many Are Getting Arrested

MAGA- Making attorneys get attorneys

djohn2oo8
02-20-2018, 10:26 AM
965961216916062209

djohn2oo8
02-20-2018, 10:27 AM
965969228594589696

vy65
02-20-2018, 10:30 AM
965934185943830528
lol cracking hard

WTF. Does he think we wouldn't remember all that bullshit about him not accepting the election results if Hillary won?

Mark Celibate
02-20-2018, 10:33 AM
Sigh, alright guys have fun playing with fire. If you get your wet dream I’ll be hiding out in the mountains until it all dies down. You guys have no idea what you’re playing with in trying to remove this president on bogus trumped up charges. I called trumps election in 2015 and I’m predicting a volatile situation if you are successful. Doubt the trump people are going to sit and take it.

djohn2oo8
02-20-2018, 10:33 AM
965971422832144384

vy65
02-20-2018, 10:33 AM
lol skadden

clambake
02-20-2018, 10:44 AM
Sigh, alright guys have fun playing with fire. If you get your wet dream I’ll be hiding out in the mountains until it all dies down. You guys have no idea what you’re playing with in trying to remove this president on bogus trumped up charges. I called trumps election in 2015 and I’m predicting a volatile situation if you are successful. Doubt the trump people are going to sit and take it.

blood in the streets you say?

Mark Celibate
02-20-2018, 10:54 AM
I just don’t understand the insistence on refusing to respect the results of our election? Don’t you see where this could set a bad precedent and lead to worse things? There’s already so much divide and polarization and brinksmanship does anyone really think a coup would go down without incident? When it happens the blood will be on your hands, don’t think you won’t be partly to blame. But I guess if some conservatives got killed by the government goons you’d feel good about that right? I see it all the time, people were actually happy when that republican congressman got shot during the softball game saying he deserved it and other sick comments. Some were even talking shit on the parents of one of the victims in the recent shooting because he was a trump supporter.You people really are animals.

Mark Celibate
02-20-2018, 10:55 AM
blood in the streets you say?
You’re an animal you’re not my countryman. You have been reduced to something disgusting and vile. You represent none of the values that it means to be an American. You’re just vile hateful scum. You’re worse than the average white nationalist who would most likely still help a black person if he were hurt or dying of thirst. Just keep mocking and hating your countrymen you scumbag.

djohn2oo8
02-20-2018, 10:57 AM
Marky Mark quite scared.

Mark Celibate
02-20-2018, 10:59 AM
Marky Mark quite scared.
I’m alarmed, you people want us dead and our country destroyed and molded into something unrecognizable. You’re not my countryman either.

djohn2oo8
02-20-2018, 11:02 AM
965977104201510915
She worked for Skadden

clambake
02-20-2018, 11:05 AM
You’re an animal you’re not my countryman. You have been reduced to something disgusting and vile. You represent none of the values that it means to be an American. You’re just vile hateful scum. You’re worse than the average white nationalist who would most likely still help a black person if he were hurt or dying of thirst. Just keep mocking and hating your countrymen you scumbag.

i hate hillary.......she's done

i hate trump......hope he's done



you see, i didn't pick a side. only a real scumbag would support either. you go ahead and run to the mountains, comrade.

djohn2oo8
02-20-2018, 11:05 AM
965976784750698496

vy65
02-20-2018, 11:07 AM
965976784750698496

Being a summer associate is not being "an unemployed former intern."

djohn2oo8
02-20-2018, 11:12 AM
Being a summer associate is not being "an unemployed former intern."

It's not. Still, she did work there.

djohn2oo8
02-20-2018, 11:12 AM
965981901923201025

Mark Celibate
02-20-2018, 11:14 AM
965977104201510915
She worked for Skaddenflip? Dude, trump had nothing to do with the guy during all of this. He was campaign manager for a small length of time during the primaries. Get a grip on yourself.

vy65
02-20-2018, 11:15 AM
It's not. Still, she did work there.

Fair enough, but in the 2010-2013 timeframe, Dewey and Skadden were pretty interchangeable. The suggestion that this chick went from something to nothing is wrong. But you're right, she worked at Skadden for four years.

Mark Celibate
02-20-2018, 11:22 AM
Look, Paul Manafort may be in trouble but he is not synonymous with Donald trump.

clambake
02-20-2018, 11:23 AM
bootlicker

Reck
02-20-2018, 11:29 AM
Look, Paul Manafort may be in trouble but he is not synonymous with Donald trump.

You're right. They've only known each other since the 80s.

Mark Celibate
02-20-2018, 11:33 AM
You're right. They've only known each other since the 80s.
I’m sure you’ve known someone who got in trouble at some point or another, that doesn’t mean you were in on it. By that logic shouldn’t oprah be charged since she knew trump since the 80s? What about The clintons? They knew him. They were friends before all this election business. She has ties to Russia also. Uranium one? Makes sense to me.

Reck
02-20-2018, 11:35 AM
I’m sure you’ve known someone who got in trouble at some point or another, that doesn’t mean you were in on it. By that logic shouldn’t oprah be charged since she knew trump since the 80s? What about The clintons? They knew him. They were friends before all this election business. She has ties to Russia also. Uranium one? Makes sense to me.

Let me rephrase.

They have known each other since the late 80s and have done shady businesses together. Manafort is how Trump got to meet so many Russians.

Mark Celibate
02-20-2018, 11:46 AM
Let me rephrase.

They have known each other since the late 80s and have done shady businesses together. Manafort is how Trump got to meet so many Russians.
What shady businesses did trump and Manafort do together?

Chucho
02-20-2018, 11:46 AM
Dialed back expectations being pointed out equates to people being unhinged. People acting like overall small potatoes is *BOOM* is unhinged.

Mark Celibate
02-20-2018, 11:50 AM
This is worse than conservatives freaking out Over the Nunez memo I saaaiidd

DisAsTerBot
02-20-2018, 12:16 PM
This is worse than conservatives freaking out Over the Nunez memo I saaaiidd

Lol not freaking out hiding in the mountains

djohn2oo8
02-20-2018, 12:39 PM
965991938892611584

boutons_deux
02-20-2018, 12:42 PM
What the latest Mueller indictment tells us about his strategy

Dutch attorney Alex van der Zwaan’s indictment shows how Mueller is trying to get to the big fish — in this case, former Trump campaign chair Paul Manafort.

Van der Zwaan is scheduled to appear in court on Tuesday at 2:30 pm EST (https://twitter.com/politiCOHEN_/status/965959343467352064) to answer the indictment. He is expected to plead guilty

What did we learn from this?

The key piece of information in all of this is the timing:

Manafort resigned as Trump’s campaign manager on August 19, 2016 — weeks before the alleged conversations between Gates, Person A, and van der Zwaan.

The resignation was the result of widespread reporting about Manafort’s shady ties to Yanukovych, particularly an allegedly off-the-books payment.

If Gates and van der Zwaan were talking about the Skadden report in September 2016, and van der Zwaan felt the need to lie to the FBI about it,

it suggests that there may have been something criminal about the report’s production — or at least, something whose release would be politically damaging.

It’s not a stretch to think that evidence provided by van der Zwaan — like his “surreptitious” recording of his call with Gates and Person A — helped Mueller build a case strong enough that Gates had no choice but to flip.

What this shows, more than anything else, is how methodical and wide-ranging the Mueller investigation is

— that it’s willing to look all the way back to an obscure report from the winter of 2012 in order to get to the truth about the Trump-Russia scandal.

Mueller is starting at the lowest level, with seemingly unrelated people like van der Zwaan, to get to the big fish.

https://www.vox.com/world/2018/2/20/17031766/mueller-indictments-alex-van-der-zwaan-paul-manafort

boutons_deux
02-20-2018, 12:46 PM
Mark Gonzales: Trump’s Critics Are ‘Messing With The Hand Of Almighty God’

Religious Right organization POTUS Shield (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/report/potus-shield-trumps-dominionist-prayer-warriors-and-the-prophetic-order-of-the-united-states/)—

which is run by tsunami-stopping (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/frank-amedia-my-ability-to-turn-back-a-tsunami-proves-i-am-right-about-trump/)pastor Frank Amedia (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/people/frank-amedia/),

who served as a volunteer “Christian policy liaison (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/trump-christian-policy-adviser-is-a-prophet-who-stopped-a-tsunami-says-aids-is-result-of-unnatural-sex/)” for Donald Trump’s presidential campaign—held a conference call to pray (https://www.potusshield.org/prayer.html) for Trump and his family.

During the call, Mark Gonzales (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/people/mark-gonzales/) of the U.S. Hispanic Action Network led participants in praying that

God will expose and defeat Trump’s critics, warning that those who oppose the president are really opposing God.

Gonzales prayed that God will expose the corruption in the FBI, the CIA, and

the special counsel investigation that “the enemy is trying to use and connive” to bring down Trump.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/mark-gonzales-trumps-critics-are-messing-with-the-hand-of-almighty-god/

How many Ms, or 10Ms, of stupid fucking Americans believe this shit?

boutons_deux
02-20-2018, 12:56 PM
Trump’s unhinged Russia tweetstorm boomerangs back on Republicans

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), he refused, claiming (in The Post’s words) that “he would consider any effort by the White House to challenge the Russians publicly an act of partisan politics.”

Former CIA director John Brennan has gone on the record about these efforts. “In those briefings of Congress, some of the individuals expressed concern that this was motivated by partisan interests on the part of the [Obama] administration,” Brennan recently said in a “Frontline” documentary (http://www.pbs.org/video/putins-revenge-part-two-wpsiq2/). “I took offense to that. I told them that this is an intelligence assessment; that this is an intelligence matter.”

Trump’s new spin in the face of the indictment — that it reveals Obama’s failure to act in the face of the threat — also invites more scrutiny of their conduct in the face of that threat.

avoiding grappling with whether it might have helped tip an extremely close election to Trump — an uncomfortable topic, because that might

place a question mark over Trump’s legitimacy.

Because Trump refuses to take Russian sabotage of the 2016 presidential election seriously,

(https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/12/14/this-new-report-confirms-that-trumps-megalomania-threatens-our-democracy/?utm_term=.723e939bc3ec)Trump is conspicuously failing (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/12/14/this-new-report-confirms-that-trumps-megalomania-threatens-our-democracy/?utm_term=.723e939bc3ec) to organize a response to the threat of Russian meddling in upcoming elections,

even though intelligence officials warn this effort is already upon us.

a “bigger and darker question,” namely whether Trump — and, crucially,

congressional Republicans — may not particularly care about this threat if they stand to benefit from it.

the specific conduct of GOP lawmakers in declining to show a united front against Russian sabotage of our democracy is a topic that needn’t remain speculative.

It can be fully fleshed out and established with empirical, journalistic inquiry.

Trump has unwittingly invited this inquiry.

We should take him up on it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/02/20/trumps-unhinged-russia-tweetstorm-boomerangs-back-on-republicans/?undefined=&utm_term=.48d8ec619b77&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

My bet is

1. that McConnell, when he blocked Obama going public with Russian meddling, knew that the Russians were helping Trash/hurting Hillary.

2. The Repugs fully expect Pootin to help them, AGAIN, in the 2018 mid-terms.

TSA
02-20-2018, 01:00 PM
Has nothing at all to do with trump, isn’t this pertaining to Manaforts consulting work long before trump?

Yes. Also involved with the report Manafort commissioned was the Podesta Group and Greg Craig, Skadden Arps partner and Obama White House counsel. Why didn't Holder indict back then?

965997455555821568

TSA
02-20-2018, 01:03 PM
965987676452245504

djohn2oo8
02-20-2018, 01:04 PM
The fear is palpable.

Pavlov
02-20-2018, 01:11 PM
Yes. Also involved with the report Manafort commissioned was the Podesta Group and Greg Craig, Skadden Arps partner and Obama White House counsel. Why didn't Holder indict back then?

965997455555821568


965987676452245504TSA reduced to passive aggressive ankle biting.

lol

djohn2oo8
02-20-2018, 01:14 PM
TSA reduced to passive aggressive ankle biting.

lol
Sad!

TSA
02-20-2018, 01:15 PM
TSA reduced to passive aggressive ankle biting.

lol

Do you think Holder didn't indict Manafort because he was working with the Podesta Group and Greg Craig?