Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

[Spurminator]

It is entirely possible (and very easy) for a foreign country to target messages to specific audiences on Facebook's ad platform without having any personal data on any American citizen. Facebook has almost all the data they could possibly need built into their own system.

[DarrinS]

Lots of people, like me, don't even have Facebook accounts.

[Spurminator]

75% of adults who have the internet use Facebook. It is the absolute #1 platform to target online advertising. Google is #2, and there's really nothing else in the same stratosphere.

[djohn2oo8]

Not why she lost.

I mentioned nothing about Hillary. Are you okay with a foreign power looking to influence an election by targeting US citizens with personal information acquired by a data firm?

[djohn2oo8]

It is entirely possible (and very easy) for a foreign country to target messages to specific audiences on Facebook's ad platform without having any personal data on any American citizen. Facebook has almost all the data they could possibly need built into their own system.

Except thats not what happened here. You keep saying possible. You'll see.

[Chucho]

Uh, this is the exact focus of the Mueller investigation.

I understand that. Dude was laughing at Face book ads being why those states swung to Trump and dude circled back. He didn't challenge dude's mockery of the charge, he passed along a question he had asked someone else.

[djohn2oo8]

75% of adults who have the internet use Facebook. It is the absolute #1 platform to target online advertising. Google is #2, and there's really nothing else in the same stratosphere.

Facebook, Twitter etc. Will suffer

[Spurminator]

Except thats not what happened here. You keep saying possible. You'll see.

"You'll see" is not the same thing as "There’s no way Russia gets that granular w/out help from Trump camp."

The second statement is a laughable farce. If you all are so certain that the hammer is going to drop, you should stop with the easily debunked noise.

[DarrinS]

I mentioned nothing about Hillary. Are you okay with a foreign power looking to influence an election by targeting US citizens with personal information acquired by a data firm?

I'm sure other countries have always tried to have influence. It suddenly became important for this election.

[Pavlov]

Lots of people, like me, don't even have Facebook accounts.Great. We can take your anecdote and send it to Mueller. He's sure to call the whole thing off.

[DMC]

You are fine with a foreign power targeting US citizens? How about that same foreign power having your social and other sensitive info?

Wow so dramatic. Targeting? Weaponized ads?

Why does it matter who created the ads? Do you trust the US government? Are you ok with the uber elite targeting you daily with ads customized from personal information they glean from tracking your web activity and the "data breech" events?

How is it any different for an American to post half truths and even outright lies in ads and for a foreign country to do so? Weren't we all foreigner friendly just recently? So they can pile in here illegally and take our tax money as long as they don't buy ad space on Facebook? Is that it?

[Pavlov]

I'm sure other countries have always tried to have influence. It suddenly became important for this election.So you will never give a shit about this, right?

[djohn2oo8]

I'm sure other countries have always tried to have influence. It suddenly became important for this election.

It is illegal with coordination from a campaign. It is even illegal without coordination. Again are you okay with Russia targeting US citizens?

[DarrinS]

Great. We can take your anecdote and send it to Mueller. He's sure to call the whole thing off.

Investigate away -- in all directions.

[djohn2oo8]

Wow so dramatic. Targeting? Weaponized ads?

Why does it matter who created the ads? Do you trust the US government? Are you ok with the uber elite targeting you daily with ads customized from personal information they glean from tracking your web activity and the "data breech" events?

How is it any different for an American to post half truths and even outright lies in ads and for a foreign country to do so? Weren't we all foreigner friendly just recently? So they can pile in here illegally and take our tax money as long as they don't buy ad space on Facebook? Is that it?

It is illegal. Or do you not giving a shit? Unless it was Hillary.

[Spurminator]

It suddenly became important for this election.

While for others it suddenly became unimportant.

It is absolutely worth investigating how a foreign adversary was able to influence public opinion during an election, regardless of who won and regardless of whether there was active involvement by Americans in their efforts. I don't know how anyone who claims to care about this country can believe otherwise.

[Pavlov]

Investigate away -- in all directions.What does that mean? What direction isn't being investigated?

[djohn2oo8]

"You'll see" is not the same thing as "There’s no way Russia gets that granular w/out help from Trump camp."

The second statement is a laughable farce. If you all are so certain that the hammer is going to drop, you should stop with the easily debunked noise.

You debunked nothing.

[Chucho]

Facebook, Twitter etc. Will suffer

No they won't. Not much, if any bit, at all.

[djohn2oo8]

What does that mean? What direction isn't being investigated?

:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

No they won't. Not much, if any bit, at all.

They will. They didn't serve search warrants for the hell of it.

[Spurminator]

You debunked nothing.

Oh okay, if you say so.

[Chucho]

They will. They didn't serve search warrants for the hell of it.

We'll see.

[Chucho]

Moreover, define "suffer".

[djohn2oo8]

Moreover, define "suffer".

One. Both may have to register as foreign agents. Especially twitter.

[DMC]

It is illegal. Or do you not giving a shit? Unless it was Hillary.

So is crossing the border, for hundreds of thousands, or do you not give a shit, unless it was Trump?

[DarrinS]

It is illegal with coordination from a campaign. It is even illegal without coordination. Again are you okay with Russia targeting US citizens?

I'm not okay with it, but I would wager that their ads we're dwarfed in comparison to what team Hillary put out there.

I know your hobby is a coping mechanism, but it's kinda sad, tbh. She lost against "grab her by the pussy". That's a seriously weak candidate.

[DMC]

While for others it suddenly became unimportant.

It is absolutely worth investigating how a foreign adversary was able to influence public opinion during an election, regardless of who won and regardless of whether there was active involvement by Americans in their efforts. I don't know how anyone who claims to care about this country can believe otherwise.
That's an assumption that gets you across the "doesn't fucking matter" bridge.

Then the righteous indignation as a cherry on top.

Hillary dd a number on you folks.

[Spurminator]

Facebook and Twitter will become more transparent with where and how ads are being served, and advertisers will have to be more transparent as well. The great majority of the United States population will continue to spend a ton of time on Facebook/Instagram/WhatsApp. Twitter will continue to fade until Trump is no longer President, after which it will fall into complete irrelevance.

[Spurminator]

That's an assumption that gets you across the "doesn't fucking matter" bridge.

That's what I would hope an investigation would determine either way.

[DMC]

Facebook and Twitter will become more transparent with where and how ads are being served, and advertisers will have to be more transparent as well. The great majority of the United States population will continue to spend a ton of time on Facebook/Instagram/WhatsApp. Twitter will continue to fade until Trump is no longer President, after which it will fall into complete irrelevance.

Prognostication from wishful thinking. I want it to be true so it will be.

So Trump will be the reason that truth in media gets off the ground.

[djohn2oo8]

I'm not okay with it, but I would wager that their ads we're dwarfed in comparison to what team Hillary put out there.

I know your hobby is a coping mechanism, but it's kinda sad, tbh. She lost against "grab her by the pussy". That's a seriously weak candidate.

You are okay with it. You just said their ads dwarfed even though they targeted Americans . They couldn't have dwarfed that much since there were more than 3000 ads alone on FB and are under FBI, DOJ, and congressional investigations. Do you want the ads released?

[DMC]

That's what I would hope an investigation would determine either way.

But you asserted it as truth already. It's like saying "it's worth investigating how a murder occurred in your hotel room" when there's no evidence a murder occurred. Where's the evidence that public opinion was swayed?

[Spurminator]

Prognostication from wishful thinking. I want it to be true so it will be.

Nope, from expertise.


So Trump will be the reason that truth in media gets off the ground.

I don't know what this means but Hillary sure did a number on you.

[Chucho]

One. Both may have to register as foreign agents. Especially twitter.

And you think, even with a foreign agent disclosure to all of their registered users, that will really hurt FB or Twitter? I know Twitter is your best bet here, but you're severely underestimating the power of our vain society. There isn't a ship for people to hop onto like Facebook was when MySpace started tanking.

[DarrinS]

I would love nothing more than getting rid of ALL click-baity fake ads that you see on almost every web page these days. But, I expect that they don't want to give up the ad revenue.

[djohn2oo8]

DMC doesn't want to find out the results. Like a Ho on Maury who don't know who the daddy is.

[Spurminator]

But you asserted it as truth already. It's like saying "it's worth investigating how a murder occurred in your hotel room" when there's no evidence a murder occurred. Where's the evidence that public opinion was swayed?

I'm content to let the investigation determine that.

[djohn2oo8]

Damn he shook.

[Spurminator]

There isn't a ship for people to hop onto like Facebook was when MySpace started tanking.

On top of that, MySpace wasn't savvy enough to buy Facebook before it passed them.

Facebook doesn't make that mistake.

[Pavlov]

I'm content to let the investigation determine that.This is what I don't get. There is obviously enough evidence to merit this investigation, so why all the pushback? If there is a reason other than partisan politics, let me know.

[Chucho]

On top of that, MySpace wasn't savvy enough to buy Facebook before it passed them.

Facebook doesn't make that mistake.

Indeed. Although MySpace was a much more enjoyable platform.

[DarrinS]

This is what I don't get. There is obviously enough evidence to merit this investigation, so why all the pushback? If there is a reason other than partisan politics, let me know.

What pushback? Just lols at all the "it's happening" tweets.

[Pavlov]

What pushback? Just lols at all the "it's happening" tweets.You do more than that. Why?

[DarrinS]

You do more than that. Why?

What more do I do? Be specific.

[Pavlov]

What more do I do? Be specific.You chalk everything up to an irrational fear of Russia and you've already decided its outcome.

[DarrinS]

You chalk everything up to an irrational fear of Russia and you've already decided its outcome.

Yeah, I'm not the one posting tweets here 24/7.

No one knows the outcome yet, but some folks sure love posting other people's speculation.

[Pavlov]

Yeah, I'm not the one posting tweets here 24/7. That has nothing to do with what you do.


No one knows the outcome yet, but some folks sure love posting other people's speculation.Yeah, but you've already decided the outcome.


A lot of people are going to have egg on their faces when this is all said and done. MSM will take another hit to their credibility.

[DarrinS]

That has nothing to do with what you do.

Yeah, but you've already decided the outcome.



My opinion. My guess. I couuld be wrong.

[Pavlov]

My opinion. My guess. I couuld be wrong.Yeah, but you already decided.

[DarrinS]

Yeah, but you already decided.

People generally decide what their opinions are.

[Pavlov]

People generally decide what their opinions are.Yes, it's your pushback against the investigation.

[DarrinS]

Yes, it's your pushback against the investigation.

And it's soooooooo powerful. :lol

[Pavlov]

And it's soooooooo powerful. :lolI didn't say it was powerful. You just denied it

[boutons_deux]

Billionaire Mercer Donated to Fund Paying Trump Legal Billshttp://www.nationalmemo.com/billionaire-mercer-donated-trump-legal-bills/

Mercer, who finances Breitart, "donated" Bannon, KrazyAnn Conway, Stephen Miller and I think GorKKKa to Trash's team, as well as Mercer's Cambridge Analytica giving demographic targeting data to Pootin's sharp shooters.

[Reck]

Senate intel comittee: Russian probe investigation expanding, not closed yet.

:cry hoax investigation

[ducks]

Billionaire Mercer Donated to Fund Paying Trump Legal Billshttp://www.nationalmemo.com/billionaire-mercer-donated-trump-legal-bills/

Mercer, who finances Breitart, "donated" Bannon, KrazyAnn Conway, Stephen Miller and I think GorKKKa to Trash's team, as well as Mercer's Cambridge Analytica giving demographic targeting data to Pootin's sharp shooters.
is that illegal or something?

[Reck]

is that illegal or something?

Pee on that rumor, ducks.

[djohn2oo8]

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Lordy!

[djohn2oo8]

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Lawd!

[djohn2oo8]

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Christ!

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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Hmm

[djohn2oo8]

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Damn Burr said that shit with force. "The issue of collusion is still open"

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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Jesus!

[spurraider21]

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Damn Burr said that shit with force. "The issue of collusion is still open"
Why are you excited about these quotes? That means they haven't seen collusion yet but are still looking

[djohn2oo8]

Why are you excited about these quotes? That means they haven't seen collusion yet but are still looking

It means they cannot say publicly. Not yet.

[djohn2oo8]

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[RandomGuy]

Indeed. Although MySpace was a much more enjoyable platform.

It was. I argued politics there too. If you remember a "Randomguy" (yeah, I'm that predictable)

[RandomGuy]

Not why she lost.

The margin of victory was tiny. About 100,000 votes in some few key states.

You can't say this conclusively. Russia used ads targeted in the exact same way that people spending serious money target people.

What method did you reach to conclude that these ads, using targeting developed by a multibillion dollar corporation to be as effective as money can buy, had no effect on the outcome of the US election?

[RandomGuy]

All of this is happening because of this:

https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/

The real leaker is unknown. Crowdstrike fabricated the "hacking" evidence and the corrupt heads of FBI, CIA, and NSA (Comey, Brenann, Clapper) under Obama went along with it. Illegal surveillance was conducted on the Trump administration and it's associates during the campaign. Mueller is employing thug tactics to elicit a false confession/testimony from Manafort or Flynn in absence of forensic evidence of collusion or hacking - it does not exist. All they need is testimony for impeachment. Proprietors of false testimony in the service of dispatching Trump will not be faced with consequences for perjury. The rule of law is dead; politics is now a pure power exercise: who has it and who is willing to wield it.

Crowdstrike and Fusion GPS, the two organizations at the very center of virtually all of these sordid allegations, have repeatedly refused to testify in front of the Senate and have faced zero pressure from Democrats to do so. FBI refuses to answer questions about the bogus dossier. Julian Assange has never been contacted or questioned in any way.

WITCH HUNT.

They do not care about the truth. They are like the husband who is caught cheating and beats the shit out of his wife for looking at his phone. "Your lover hacked my calls! Adulterer! I'm divorcing you you traitorous bitch!"

Crowdstrike didn't fabricate any evidence at all. Fail.

[ducks]

Pee on that rumor, ducks.

YOU ARE SICK

[ducks]

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Jesus!
What does Jesus have to do with this topic?

[boutons_deux]

Rightwingnutjob assholes "believe" Hillary lost because they detest her.

MI, WI, PA's electoral votes, the WINNING votes, were won with less that 1%.

Nate Silver said Comey's "we've found (investigating) MORE Hillary emails" 11 days before the election caused shifts to Trash in those 3 states.

Comey announced his investigation(s) of Hillary (NEVER done during an FBI investigation, nor if an investigation results in no indictment),

while he REFUSED to announce FBI was also investigating Trash's team for Russian collusion.

May Repugs with Trash's signatures FUCK all the rightwingnutjob assholes. They voted to get fucked and they're getting fucked.

[Chucho]

It was. I argued politics there too. If you remember a "Randomguy" (yeah, I'm that predictable)

I miss being able to change my avatar and screen name all the time to something abstract or funny. I'd be anything from "The Last Great White President, Bill Clinton" or "Superior Life form, Alf." or Alleged Criminal, Eddie Winslow". Oh man, good times...

[Reck]

YOU ARE SICK

Tell 'em. All caps.

[boutons_deux]

Putin Says He Has ‘Zero Personal Relationship’ With Trump
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/putin-zero-personal-relationship-trump?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20tpm-news%20%28TPMNews%29

[ducks]

Putin Says He Has ‘Zero Personal Relationship’ With Trump
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/putin-zero-personal-relationship-trump?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20tpm-news%20%28TPMNews%29

he only kissed clinton:toast

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I'm not okay with it, but I would wager that their ads we're dwarfed in comparison to what team Hillary put out there.

I know your hobby is a coping mechanism, but it's kinda sad, tbh. She lost against "grab her by the pussy". That's a seriously weak candidate.

This is a pretty fucking stupid comparison. Oh and. . . .

*ding*

[spurraider21]

he only kissed clinton:toast
*ding*

[djohn2oo8]

Hmmm Trump seems to be mad about the Senate intel committee this morning.

[djohn2oo8]

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Hmm mmm

[djohn2oo8]

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[boutons_deux]

915987481924915201

how did Kaspersky's software enable the hackers to find the contractor's computer with the files?

Is Kaspersky anti-virus part of Pootin's Long Game?

And yet again, a huge fuckup of incompetence, will anybody, any company be held accountable?

Pootin and his hacker army are raping fat, lazy, incompetent America.

Of course, security is a pain and expensive, so the money men always underfund security staff and budgets, and like, Equifax, pay no penalty.

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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Mueller gives the go ahead.

[TSA]

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Mueller gives the go ahead.

Was Steele a foreign agent paid to influence an election or are we only concerned about Russians?

[Pavlov]

Was Steele a foreign agent paid to influence an election or are we only concerned about Russians?What were the Russians paid and who paid them?

[djohn2oo8]

Was Steele a foreign agent paid to influence an election or are we only concerned about Russians?

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Seems like The.Russians did alot to influence an election.

[boutons_deux]

"WSJ: Facebook cut references to Russia from April report on election influence amid concern from lawyers."

amazing, astonishing

"cut references"? Does Facebook still have those "references"

FB's lawyers KNEW they had to hide, in April 2017, FB's connection with Russians?

holy fucking wow

Pootin's "Long Game" to fuck up America has succeeded, is succeeding.

Pootin and his mafiya are laughing their asses off at the pitiful cyber midget of USA :lol

and NSA got hacked, too? :lol

https://www.cnet.com/news/russian-hackers-reportedly-stole-nsa-cyber-secrets-in-2015/#ftag=CAD590a51e

[boutons_deux]

Lawmakers and Facebook are in a standoff over lifting veil on Russian ads

WASHINGTON — Facebook is refusing to let the public see the 3,000 election-related ads the Kremlin placed during the 2016 presidential race

— posts that many U.S. lawmakers and the American intelligence community now agree were meant to drive voters to choose Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton.

Despite increasing pressure from Democrats, the Silicon Valley giant is holding firm to its line that company policy allows Facebook to disclose "user content" only in response to a court-ordered warrant.

Given the unprecedented nature of the Kremlin's interference in the U.S. election — and the still-open investigations into whether Trump's team colluded with Moscow — Democrats' patience is running out.

"We really want to see them — the public does," Sen. Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota said on NPR on Thursday.

"We've learned that $100,000 was spent in rubles for ads during the 2016 election, and we haven't seen those ads."
While investigators for the House and Senate Intelligence committees have begun reviewing the ads, the panels' rules bar their release.

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/lawmakers-and-facebook-are-in-a-standoff-over-lifting-veil-on-russian-ads/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[boutons_deux]

BUSTED: Maddow reveals senators were lying when they said British ‘dossier’ spy refused to meet with them

In her opening report Thursday, MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow explained that the vast majority of the things in the dossier (https://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/thats-the-whole-ballgame-maddow-lays-out-why-senate-testimony-on-the-trump-dossier-will-be-made-public/) have been proven correct.

What is left to be proven, obviously, are the more salacious personal details. :lol

(Trash is eternally tatooed with the image of Russian whores peeing on the Obama's Russian hotel bed :lol )

Her example was that the dossier claimed Russia was behind the hack of the DNC, which was eventually proven correct.

Similarly, months before it was proven that President Donald Trump and the Trump Organization sought to build a Trump Tower Moscow project, the dossier revealed it.

Long before there was proof that Russian government sources offered derogatory information about Hillary Clinton to the Trump campaign directly, Steele had the information in his dossier.

“So, a lot of this he did dead right,” Maddow said.

“A lot of this that seemed nuts when we read this published in January.

Since then it has been reported out and proven.”

“So there is is this dossier saying that the Trump campaign and the Russians were in cahoots involved in a conspiracy of operation to help put Trump — put a foreign thumb on the scale to get Trump in office,” Maddow recalled

Richard Burr (R-NC) and Mark Warner (D-VA). They revealed in their press conference Wednesday that they were able to investigate many things about the Russia scandal except for the dossier (https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/senate-intel-gop-chair-shoots-down-trumps-claim-that-russian-meddling-is-a-hoax/). In that case, they’ve hit a brick wall.

Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) has even said that anyone citing the dossier is outright wrong and should be held accountable. fucking IA! :lol

The new reporting, according to Maddow is that Steele, through an associate, told members of Congress he’d be happy to talk to them. That contradicts both Grassley and Burr’s claims.

Maddow outlined four major facts:

1. “A bunch of the dossier has proven to be true.

2. “The FBI and CIA have reportedly validated parts of it as true and have apparently used it as the basis of some of their ongoing investigation.”

3. “The special counsel Robert Mueller is investigating the dossier including interviewing Christopher Steele about it.”

4. “Senate investigators apparently can meet with Christopher Steele if they want to. Even if the Republican chairman of the Intelligence Committee yesterday said otherwise.”

Steve Bannon is demanding that Republicans in the House and Senate put their collective feet down to stop these investigations. :lol

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/busted-maddow-reveals-senators-were-lying-when-they-said-british-dossier-spy-refused-to-meet-with-them/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

scumbag Bannon is ordering Congress around? :lol

I expect Bannon was, at very least, fully aware of Pootin's queering the election for his Useful Idiot Trash.

I also expect money man Mercer and his Cambridge Analytica were right in the middle.

[boutons_deux]

:lol
White House Chief Of Staff John Kelly’s Phone Compromised
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/john-kelly-phone-compromised_us_59d6abe2e4b072637c42f521?utm_medium =email&utm_campaign=__TheMorningEmail__100617&utm_content=__TheMorningEmail__100617+CID_80df9dd9 4406af03f346e81e4a6aab86&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=HuffPost&ncid=newsltushpmgnews__TheMorningEmail__100617

[RandomGuy]

Was Steele a foreign agent paid to influence an election or are we only concerned about Russians?

What foreign government do you think Steele was representing?

The definition of "foreign agent" means that you are advocating for another country to my understanding.

[djohn2oo8]

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Lordy!!!

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

Corker will be calling for Trump's impeachment. Hence Trump's attacks on Corker this morning.

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[Reck]

Russia was all over our elections. Damn

We have an illegitimate dude as a president. Must get rid of the dude.

[florige]

Russia was all over our elections. Damn

We have an illegitimate dude as a president. Must get rid of the dude.




Hillary was pretty unpopular, ran a pretty dismal campaign all the way around, all her extra baggage she had along the way, it is being proven now that Russia had a hand in our election, and Trump barely squeaked in by the skin of his teeth only by the electoral college that he openly called a fraudulent system, and never mind the fact that he got clobbered via the popular vote. Yeah I can now clearly see that the silent majority was what overwhelmingly pushed Trump past Hillary with ease.

[djohn2oo8]

Russia was all over our elections. Damn

We have an illegitimate dude as a president. Must get rid of the dude.

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One last chance for the seth Rich crew to back down before they get fucking embarrassed.

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[Pavlov]

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One last chance for the seth Rich crew to back down before they get fucking embarrassed.So does Hillary now need to kill the Trumps or the Russians to keep herself out of prison?

Or both.

We need some 4chan help with this.

[ducks]

Russia was all over our elections. Damn

We have an illegitimate dude as a president. Must get rid of the dude.
Russia had no more to do with the outcome as the illegals that voted
actually the illegals that voted did more then russia

[Chris]

Mueller digging deep. Big boom coming.

[Pavlov]

Mueller digging deep. Big boom coming.Any updates on your Trump/Adelson Las Vegas mass murder conspiracy, Chris?

[Chris]

Any updates on your Trump/Adelson Las Vegas mass murder conspiracy, Chris?

Care to explain what you are projecting on to me this time, and why you are going off topic?

[Pavlov]

Care to explain what you are projecting on to me this time, and why you are going off topic?You posted the theory, Chris. I'm asking you if there are any updates. I will probably ask you this a lot since it doesn't seem like you want to answer. Fair warning.

[Chris]

You posted the theory, Chris. I'm asking you if there are any updates. I will probably ask you this a lot since it doesn't seem like you want to answer. Fair warning.

What theory?

[Pavlov]

What theory?Your Sheldon Adelson Las Vegas mass murder conspiracy theory.

If you want to pretend you never posted it, well there's a lot of that going on today.

[Chris]

Your Sheldon Adelson Las Vegas mass murder conspiracy theory.

If you want to pretend you never posted it, well there's a lot of that going on today.

Can you link me to that post?

[Pavlov]

Can you link me to that post?Did you forget what you posted?

[Chris]

Did you forget what you posted?

So you can't.

[Pavlov]

So you can't.Sure I can, it was four days ago.

Do you not remember?

[Chris]

Your Sheldon Adelson Las Vegas mass murder conspiracy theory.

Please link me to where I posted a theory about Sheldon Adelson.

[Pavlov]

Please link me to where I posted a theory about Sheldon Adelson.Already did.

You're welcome.

[Chris]

Already did.

You're welcome.

I see you've decided to go full retard today. Carry on.

[Pavlov]

I see you've decided to go full retard today. Carry on.Since you were whining about staying on topic, you might want to look -- not in this thread.

[Reck]

Just post the link. 2 pages of back and forth of virtually the same posts.

At this point I'm just curious about what Chris might have said.

[Pavlov]

Just post the link. 2 pages of back and forth of virtually the same posts.

At this point I'm just curious about what Chris might have said.I bumped it in the other thread, but here I helped him flesh out his conspiracy theory. I admit this one could be totally true.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=270578&p=9152613&viewfull=1#post9152613

[djohn2oo8]

Christ almighty Trump's lawyers are begging Mueller to meet with Trump. :lmao

[Pavlov]

OK, just go ahead and let that fucking moron testify in front of a grand jury then.

[djohn2oo8]

OK, just go ahead and testify in front of a grand jury then you fucking moron.

Exactly.

[djohn2oo8]

918469936359624705
Lordy!

[Chris]

Time to pull the plug on this witch-hunt.

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/22339486_10155378712391943_6171764149990589244_o.j pg?oh=30ad0c46eb61874e27bad4a6c95d7bf5&oe=5A8171A4

[Chucho]

Time to pull the plug on this witch-hunt.

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/22339486_10155378712391943_6171764149990589244_o.j pg?oh=30ad0c46eb61874e27bad4a6c95d7bf5&oe=5A8171A4


You just wait. :rolleyes

[Pavlov]

Time to pull the plug on this witch-hunt.

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/22339486_10155378712391943_6171764149990589244_o.j pg?oh=30ad0c46eb61874e27bad4a6c95d7bf5&oe=5A8171A4Investigation costs bad now.

[Chris]

You just wait. :rolleyes

Oh yeah according to Pav, investigations like this take years and years :lol

[Pavlov]

Oh yeah according to Pav, investigations like this take years and years :lolIt's not according to me. It's according to the actual investigations.

[Chucho]

Oh yeah according to Pav, investigations like this take years and years :lol

Pavs loses often. For instance, time gave you a W over him earlier in the week.

[Pavlov]

Pavs loses often. For instance, time gave you a W over him earlier in the week.How long do you think the last Special Counsel investigation took?

[Chucho]

How long do you think the last Special Counsel investigation took?

It took a long while, I'm not arguing that, at all. All I said is you lose often.

[Chris]

Pavs loses often. For instance, time gave you a W over him earlier in the week.

:lol

[Pavlov]

It took a long while, I'm not arguing that, at all. All I said is you lose often.So how long are you saying this investigation will take?

[Chucho]

So how long are you saying this investigation will take?


It took a long while, I'm not arguing that, at all. All I said is you lose often



The whole "respond and deflect by asking a question" isn't working anymore.

Might need to rescind this, it probably works on the mental mightiness of ducks, tbh.

[Pavlov]

So you have nothing to say about the actual investigation. You're only here to talk about me.

Neat.

[Chucho]

So you have nothing to say about the actual investigation. You're only here to talk about me.

Neat.

At least you never quit. I mean, I understand you're MO here, but damnit, you work hard for it.

[Pavlov]

At least you never quit. I mean, I understand you're MO here, but damnit, you work hard for it.I understand you're still talking about me and not the topic. Dammit, you work hard at it.

[Chucho]

*talking about Chucho*

Neat.

[Pavlov]

Neat.Let's talk about the topic, then. Go right ahead.

[djohn2oo8]

919027773204844544
That's alot of cheese for just a Volunteer

[Pavlov]

Goalpost move incoming.

[TSA]

One of these days someone is going to be in some major trouble

[spurraider21]

One of these days someone is going to be in some major trouble
My money's on Susan rice. Unmasking scandal :wow

[djohn2oo8]

Funny how the Trump tards were excited Hillary was under FBI investigation and wanted them to find all the dirt, yet when Trump is under investigation by the FBI, Mueller, both the Senate and House Intel committees, 3 confirmed Grand juries empaneled, and now Trump being subpoenaed about sexual assault documents related to him, it's all a witch hunt :lol

And somehow now the FBI, CIA, NSA are all fake news.

[Pavlov]

One of these days someone is going to be in some major troubleI'll ask you -- probably again -- how long do you think special prosecutor investigations take?

[tlongII]

I'll ask you -- probably again -- how long do you think special prosecutor investigations take?

How long do you think this one is going to take?

[Pavlov]

How long do you think this one is going to take?Longer than the Plame investigation almost certainly. It took almost two years for indictments to be handed down then -- and that investigation's scope was minuscule compared to this one.

[tlongII]

Longer than the Plame investigation almost certainly. It took almost two years for indictments to be handed down then -- and that investigation's scope was minuscule compared to this one.

Well if the Democratic Party wants to waste their time on this it’s their prerogative.

[Pavlov]

Well if the Democratic Party wants to waste their time on this it’s their prerogative.The Office of Special Counsel is not the Democratic Party. Why do you think investigating a foreign country's influencing the election process is a waste of time? I personally want to know all about how a foreign country attempted to influence our election process.

[tlongII]

The Office of Special Counsel is not the Democratic Party. Why do you think investigating a foreign country's influencing the election process is a waste of time?

This is being driven by the Democratic Party. Without a doubt.

[Pavlov]

This is being driven by the Democratic Party. Without a doubt.The Special Counsel is a Republican who was appointed by the Deputy Attorney General who is a Republican appointed by Trump who is a Republican.

[hitmanyr2k]

This is being driven by the Democratic Party. Without a doubt.

No it's not :lol The Democrats basically have no power. This is being driven by Trump's stupidity. I've said time and time again there is no Mueller investigation without Trump making dumb mistake after dumb mistake in the first 6 months of his Presidency. All he had to do was shut the hell up, let the case go on its merry way and focus on other shit. Instead he obsessed over Comey and this investigation and got himself in more trouble.

[djohn2oo8]

919630987973267457
Hmm wonder what DMC has to say about that

[Pavlov]

919630987973267457
Hmm wonder what DMC has to say about that
Trump luring them in with jobs and taking them down one by one! Pizza!

[djohn2oo8]

919635531734056961
Subpoenas everywhere.

[Pavlov]

Oops. Sexual assault good again.

[tlongII]

No it's not :lol The Democrats basically have no power. This is being driven by Trump's stupidity. I've said time and time again there is no Mueller investigation without Trump making dumb mistake after dumb mistake in the first 6 months of his Presidency. All he had to do was shut the hell up, let the case go on its merry way and focus on other shit. Instead he obsessed over Comey and this investigation and got himself in more trouble.

Lol wut? :lol

[djohn2oo8]

919899577565761536
Guess Trump couldn't drain the swamp...

[Spurminator]

This is being driven by the Democratic Party. Without a doubt.

Stubborn, willful ignorance. Amazing.

[RandomGuy]

Well if the Democratic Party wants to waste their time on this it’s their prerogative.

How much of our money did Republicans waste on Benghazi for purely partisan ends again?

Personally, I think given the scope of our government, I would like to know if anyone, especially the president broke laws.

I guess the dividing line between criminals you care about, and ones you don't is whether they have a magic "R" behind their name?

[RandomGuy]

This is being driven by the Democratic Party. Without a doubt.

What is certain is that the Republican party is attempting to deflect any investigation into one of their own. If the parties were reversed, you would be screaming bloody murder about a coverup.

What does that say about your priorities?

[djohn2oo8]

919956128485822469
"Nothing about Adoptions"

[Chucho]

919635531734056961
Subpoenas everywhere.


And subpenises everywhere, too!

[ducks]

Report: NBC Fires Leaker of Video of Anchor Berating Staff

[TSA]

One of these days someone is going to be in some major trouble

BOOM

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/355749-fbi-uncovered-russian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration

[TSA]

920095972360847360

[RandomGuy]

BOOM

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/355749-fbi-uncovered-russian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration

Pop up ad, pop up ad, pop up ad, video ads, video ads, video ads.

Your links suck monkey ass.

Seriously. Too many fucking ads. Really couldn't read the story.

Mind copy pasting it, or putting in a summary?

[DarrinS]

Pop up ad, pop up ad, pop up ad, video ads, video ads, video ads.

Your links suck monkey ass.

Seriously. Too many fucking ads. Really couldn't read the story.

Mind copy pasting it, or putting in a summary?


You don’t use a pop up blocker?

[TSA]

Pop up ad, pop up ad, pop up ad, video ads, video ads, video ads.

Your links suck monkey ass.

Seriously. Too many fucking ads. Really couldn't read the story.

Mind copy pasting it, or putting in a summary?

FBI uncovered Russian bribery plot before Obama administration approved controversial nuclear deal with Moscow

Before the Obama administration approved a controversial deal in 2010 giving Moscow control of a large swath of American uranium, the FBI had gathered substantial evidence that Russian nuclear industry officials were engaged in bribery, kickbacks, extortion and money laundering designed to grow Vladimir Putin’s atomic energy business inside the United States, according to government documents and interviews.

Federal agents used a confidential U.S. witness working inside the Russian nuclear industry to gather extensive financial records, make secret recordings and intercept emails as early as 2009 that showed Moscow had compromised an American uranium trucking firm with bribes and kickbacks in violation of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, FBI and court documents show.

They also obtained an eyewitness account — backed by documents — indicating Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President Bill Clinton’s charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow, sources told The Hill.

The racketeering scheme was conducted “with the consent of higher level officials” in Russia who “shared the proceeds” from the kickbacks, one agent declared in an affidavit years later.

Rather than bring immediate charges in 2010, however, the Department of Justice (DOJ) continued investigating the matter for nearly four more years, essentially leaving the American public and Congress in the dark about Russian nuclear corruption on U.S. soil during a period when the Obama administration made two major decisions benefitting Putin’s commercial nuclear ambitions.

The first decision occurred in October 2010, when the State Department and government agencies on the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States unanimously approved the partial sale of Canadian mining company Uranium One to the Russian nuclear giant Rosatom, giving Moscow control of more than 20 percent of America’s uranium supply.

When this sale was used by Trump on the campaign trail last year, Hillary Clinton’s spokesman said she was not involved in the committee review and noted the State Department official who handled it said she “never intervened ... on any [Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States] matter.”

In 2011, the administration gave approval for Rosatom’s Tenex subsidiary to sell commercial uranium to U.S. nuclear power plants in a partnership with the United States Enrichment Corp. Before then, Tenex had been limited to selling U.S. nuclear power plants reprocessed uranium recovered from dismantled Soviet nuclear weapons under the 1990s Megatons to Megawatts peace program.

“The Russians were compromising American contractors in the nuclear industry with kickbacks and extortion threats, all of which raised legitimate national security concerns. And none of that evidence got aired before the Obama administration made those decisions,” a person who worked on the case told The Hill, speaking on condition of anonymity for fear of retribution by U.S. or Russian officials.

The Obama administration’s decision to approve Rosatom’s purchase of Uranium One has been a source of political controversy since 2015.

That’s when conservative author Peter Schweitzer and The New York Times documented how Bill Clinton collected hundreds of thousands of dollars in Russian speaking fees and his charitable foundation collected millions in donations from parties interested in the deal while Hillary Clinton presided on the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States.

The Obama administration and the Clintons defended their actions at the time, insisting there was no evidence that any Russians or donors engaged in wrongdoing and there was no national security reason for any member of the committee to oppose the Uranium One deal.

But FBI, Energy Department and court documents reviewed by The Hill show the FBI in fact had gathered substantial evidence well before the committee’s decision that Vadim Mikerin — the main Russian overseeing Putin’s nuclear expansion inside the United States — was engaged in wrongdoing starting in 2009.

Then-Attorney General Eric Holder was among the Obama administration officials joining Hillary Clinton on the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States at the time the Uranium One deal was approved. Multiple current and former government officials told The Hill they did not know whether the FBI or DOJ ever alerted committee members to the criminal activity they uncovered.

Spokesmen for Holder and Clinton did not return calls seeking comment. The Justice Department also didn’t comment.

Mikerin was a director of Rosatom’s Tenex in Moscow since the early 2000s, where he oversaw Rosatom’s nuclear collaboration with the United States under the Megatons to Megwatts program and its commercial uranium sales to other countries. In 2010, Mikerin was dispatched to the U.S. on a work visa approved by the Obama administration to open Rosatom’s new American arm called Tenam.

Between 2009 and January 2012, Mikerin “did knowingly and willfully combine, conspire confederate and agree with other persons … to obstruct, delay and affect commerce and the movement of an article and commodity (enriched uranium) in commerce by extortion,” a November 2014 indictment stated.

His illegal conduct was captured with the help of a confidential witness, an American businessman, who began making kickback payments at Mikerin’s direction and with the permission of the FBI. The first kickback payment recorded by the FBI through its informant was dated Nov. 27, 2009, the records show.

In evidentiary affidavits signed in 2014 and 2015, an Energy Department agent assigned to assist the FBI in the case testified that Mikerin supervised a “racketeering scheme” that involved extortion, bribery, money laundering and kickbacks that were both directed by and provided benefit to more senior officials back in Russia.

“As part of the scheme, Mikerin, with the consent of higher level officials at TENEX and Rosatom (both Russian state-owned entities) would offer no-bid contracts to US businesses in exchange for kickbacks in the form of money payments made to some offshore banks accounts,” Agent David Garden testified.

“Mikerin apparently then shared the proceeds with other co-conspirators associated with TENEX in Russia and elsewhere,” the agent added.

The investigation was ultimately supervised by then-U.S. Attorney Rod Rosenstein, an Obama appointee who now serves as President Trump’s deputy attorney general, and then-Assistant FBI Director Andrew McCabe, now the deputy FBI director under Trump, Justice Department documents show.

Both men now play a key role in the current investigation into possible, but still unproven collusion between Russia and Donald Trump’s campaign during the 2016 election. McCabe is under congressional and Justice Department inspector general investigation in connection with money his wife’s Virginia state Senate campaign accepted in 2015 from now-Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe at a time when McAuliffe was reportedly under investigation by the FBI.

The connections to the current Russia case are many. The Mikerin probe began in 2009 when Robert Mueller, now the special counsel in charge of the Trump case, was still FBI director. And it ended in late 2015 under the direction of then-FBI Director James Comey, who Trump fired earlier this year.

Its many twist and turns aside, the FBI nuclear industry case proved a gold mine, in part because it uncovered a new Russian money laundering apparatus that routed bribe and kickback payments through financial instruments in Cyprus, Latvia and Seychelles. A Russian financier in New Jersey was among those arrested for the money laundering, court records show.

The case also exposed a serious national security breach: Mikerin had given a contract to an American trucking firm called Transport Logistics International that held the sensitive job of transporting Russia’s uranium around the United States in return for more than $2 million in kickbacks from some of its executives, court records show.

One of Mikerin’s former employees told the FBI that Tenex officials in Russia specifically directed the scheme to “allow for padded pricing to include kickbacks,” agents testified in one court filing.

Bringing down a major Russian nuclear corruption scheme that had both compromised a sensitive uranium transportation asset inside the U.S. and facilitated international money laundering would seem a major feather in any law enforcement agency’s cap.

But the Justice Department and FBI took little credit in 2014 when Mikerin, the Russian financier and the trucking firm executives were arrested and charged.

The only public statement occurred an entire year later when the Justice Department put out a little-noticed press release in August 2015, just days before Labor Day. The release noted that the various defendants had reached plea deals.

By that time, the criminal cases against Mikerin had been narrowed to a single charge of money laundering for a scheme that officials admitted stretched from 2004 to 2014. And though agents had evidence of criminal wrongdoing they collected since at least 2009, federal prosecutors only cited in the plea agreement a handful of transactions that occurred in 2011 and 2012, well after the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States’s approval.

The final court case also made no mention of any connection to the influence peddling conversations the FBI undercover informant witnessed about the Russian nuclear officials trying to ingratiate themselves with the Clintons even though agents had gathered documents showing the transmission of millions of dollars from Russia’s nuclear industry to an American entity that had provided assistance to Bill Clinton’s foundation, sources confirmed to The Hill.

The lack of fanfare left many key players in Washington with no inkling that a major Russian nuclear corruption scheme with serious national security implications had been uncovered.

On Dec. 15, 2015, the Justice Department put out a release stating that Mikerin, “a former Russian official residing in Maryland was sentenced today to 48 months in prison” and ordered to forfeit more than $2.1 million.

Ronald Hosko, who served as the assistant FBI director in charge of criminal cases when the investigation was underway, told The Hill he did not recall ever being briefed about Mikerin’s case by the counterintelligence side of the bureau despite the criminal charges that were being lodged.

“I had no idea this case was being conducted,” a surprised Hosko said in an interview.

Likewise, major congressional figures were also kept in the dark.

Former Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.), who chaired the House Intelligence Committee during the time the FBI probe was being conducted, told The Hill that he had never been told anything about the Russian nuclear corruption case even though many fellow lawmakers had serious concerns about the Obama administration’s approval of the Uranium One deal.

“Not providing information on a corruption scheme before the Russian uranium deal was approved by U.S. regulators and engage appropriate congressional committees has served to undermine U.S. national security interests by the very people charged with protecting them,” he said. “The Russian efforts to manipulate our American political enterprise is breathtaking.”

Indictment, warrant, plea deal links

https://www.scribd.com/document/361782806/Indictment-Affidavit#from_embed

https://www.scribd.com/document/361783030/Warrant-Affidavit#from_embed

https://www.scribd.com/document/361783782/Mikerin-Plea-Deal#from_embed

[Pavlov]

BOOM

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/355749-fbi-uncovered-russian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration

How does Russia control US uranium? Did they take it all to Russia?

[TSA]

How does Russia control US uranium? Did they take it all to Russia?

That's your takeaway from the article? :rollin

[Pavlov]

That's your takeaway from the article? :rollinYou didn't answer the question. Your article brought it up.

[TSA]

"They also obtained an eyewitness account — backed by documents — indicating Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President Bill Clinton’s charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow, sources told The Hill."

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"The investigation was ultimately supervised by then-U.S. Attorney Rod Rosenstein, an Obama appointee who now serves as President Trump’s deputy attorney general, and then-Assistant FBI Director Andrew McCabe, now the deputy FBI director under Trump, Justice Department documents show.

Both men now play a key role in the current investigation into possible, but still unproven collusion between Russia and Donald Trump’s campaign during the 2016 election. McCabe is under congressional and Justice Department inspector general investigation in connection with money his wife’s Virginia state Senate campaign accepted in 2015 from now-Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe at a time when McAuliffe was reportedly under investigation by the FBI.

The connections to the current Russia case are many. The Mikerin probe began in 2009 when Robert Mueller, now the special counsel in charge of the Trump case, was still FBI director. And it ended in late 2015 under the direction of then-FBI Director James Comey, who Trump fired earlier this year."


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"By that time, the criminal cases against Mikerin had been narrowed to a single charge of money laundering for a scheme that officials admitted stretched from 2004 to 2014. And though agents had evidence of criminal wrongdoing they collected since at least 2009, federal prosecutors only cited in the plea agreement a handful of transactions that occurred in 2011 and 2012, well after the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States’s approval.

The final court case also made no mention of any connection to the influence peddling conversations the FBI undercover informant witnessed about the Russian nuclear officials trying to ingratiate themselves with the Clintons even though agents had gathered documents showing the transmission of millions of dollars from Russia’s nuclear industry to an American entity that had provided assistance to Bill Clinton’s foundation, sources confirmed to The Hill."

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The current Russian witch hunt is looking more and more like an attempt to find anything to blackmail Trump with so this thing doesn't blow wide open. All the key players were involved.

[Pavlov]

What are the charges this time TSA? You're acting like the Trump administration is just finding out about this.

[boutons_deux]

rightwingnutjob ASSHOLES think that non-rightwingnutjobs blindly support Obama, Hillary, Dems, just as the rightwingnutjobs inarguably blindly support and defend Trash, Repugs, BigCorp, the oligarchy.

Defense: See, the Dems are just as bad (LIE!)

[TSA]

What are the charges this time TSA? You're acting like the Trump administration is just finding out about this.

Not sure there will be any charges...but the cats out of the bag. Tell me again how the Russians weren't funneling money into the Clinton Foundation.

[Pavlov]

Not sure there will be any charges...but the cats out of the bag.Which means, what? What are you saying is going to happen, TSA?
Tell me again how the Russians weren't funneling money into the Clinton Foundation.Though an "American entity"? How much? Are you saying the Clintons knew it was coming from Russia? Are you saying Hillary could have stopped the sale of a Canadian company?

And you never answered the first question about control

[TSA]

Which means, what? What are you saying is going to happen, TSA?Though an "American entity"? How much? Are you saying the Clintons knew it was coming from Russia? Are you saying Hillary could have stopped the sale of a Canadian company?

And you never answered the first question about control

shut the fuck up and enjoy your shit sandwich

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327183/IMG_2479-335830.JPG

[Pavlov]

shut the fuck up and enjoy your shit sandwich:lol Why are you so angry?

You can't answer a few simple questions? You say this is your BOOM -- tell everyone what it means.

Which means, what? What are you saying is going to happen, TSA?Though an "American entity"? How much? Are you saying the Clintons knew it was coming from Russia? Are you saying Hillary could have stopped the sale of a Canadian company?

And you never answered the first question about control

[TSA]

:lol Why are you so angry?

You can't answer a few simple questions? You say this is your BOOM -- tell everyone what it means.

nom nom nom nom nom

[TSA]

Call me crazy, but this seems a lot more serious than a Russian troll farm buying $100,000 in Facebook ads during the election. Solomon and Spann report that this involved millions of dollars in bribes and kickbacks, not just small potatoes like online ads. The FBI probe exposed new avenues of money laundering, an intelligence boon that may have serious repercussions for Russian intelligence down the road.

Curiously, though, the DoJ never took any credit for it. In fact, they buried the probe even after indicting some Russian principals in the operation. They only announced in 2015 that they had reached plea deals in a case involving money laundering, saying nothing about bribery, extortion, or the intent to corrupt the US nuclear industry. That information was so compartmentalized that even the FBI’s top criminal-investigation officer had no idea of the extent of the case, and no one in Congress was ever briefed on the national security concerns raised in the case. In fact, House Intelligence chair Mike Rogers claimed to the Hill that no one ever mentioned the case at all to him, despite already-extant concerns over the Uranium One deal on Capitol Hill.

That smells like a political cover-up of the first magnitude. Rather than hyperventilate over Facebook ads and Twitter trolls, perhaps Congress and the current Department of Justice should look into what the FBI found in 2009-10, how much of it benefited Bill and Hillary Clinton — and why the DoJ and the Obama administration never briefed the intelligence committees on this Russian collusion operation. And maybe special counsel Robert Mueller should explain what he knew about these investigations, which took place while he was FBI director, and why this information got buried until now.

https://hotair.com/archives/2017/10/17/bombshell-fbi-found-russia-bribery-extortion-plot-us-nuclear-industry-2009/

[Pavlov]

nom nom nom nom nom:lol It's your BOOM. Quit being a wimp and say what you think is going to happen from your BOOM.

[Chucho]

:lol It's your BOOM. Quit being a wimp and say what you think is going to happen from your BOOM.

He's not going to do your homework for you. :rolleyes

[Pavlov]

My prediction: Trump will say things but do nothing. It is Russia after all.

What is your prediction, TSA?

[djohn2oo8]

920330965716697088
Hmm Russia Paying US citizens

[spurraider21]

Uranium One again?

:lol "Hillary gave our Uranium to putin!" :lol

[RandomGuy]

nom nom nom nom nom

I don't see you telling us what this means.

I see

"buck buck buck baGOOOK!"

[Pavlov]

I give The Hill credit for conflating multiple issues and implying some huge conspiracy that includes those actually investigating Russia now. TSA ate det shit right up.

[RandomGuy]

The current Russian witch hunt is looking more and more like an attempt to find anything to blackmail Trump with so this thing doesn't blow wide open. All the key players were involved.

hahahahahashahahahaha.... :rollin

All the "key players" in Nothingsville were in on it. Controlled Demolition. No Planes. The landings were faked....

[boutons_deux]

USA was a naive, simplistic sitting duck for the sophistication of the Pootin trolling / cyberattacking hordes.

[RandomGuy]

I give The Hill credit for conflating multiple issues and implying some huge conspiracy that includes those actually investigating Russia now. TSA ate det shit right up.

In his head, I'm sure he thinks that we gavez all da Uranium to Russia because her emails and Clinton Foundation money.

Ask him about money being funneled to Trumps businesses... crickets.

The difference being one has the magic "R", and one doesn't.

[TSA]

I give The Hill credit for conflating multiple issues and implying some huge conspiracy that includes those actually investigating Russia now. TSA ate det shit right up.

Tell us again how Russia wasn't funneling money into the Clinton Foundation.

[TSA]

In his head, I'm sure he thinks that we gavez all da Uranium to Russia because her emails and Clinton Foundation money.

Ask him about money being funneled to Trumps businesses... crickets.

The difference being one has the magic "R", and one doesn't.



I guess the dividing line between criminals you care about, and ones you don't is whether they have a magic "D" behind their name?

If the parties were reversed, you would be screaming bloody murder about a coverup.

What does that say about your priorities?

[TSA]

I don't see you telling us what this means.

I see

"buck buck buck baGOOOK!"

A political cover up of epic proportions is unraveling before your eyes and you need someone else to tell you what it means :rollin

[Pavlov]

Tell us again how Russia wasn't funneling money into the Clinton Foundation.You're going to have to be more specific than The Hill was.


They also obtained an eyewitness account — backed by documents — indicating Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President Bill Clinton’s charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow, sources told The Hill....

That’s when conservative author Peter Schweitzer and The New York Times documented how Bill Clinton collected hundreds of thousands of dollars in Russian speaking fees and his charitable foundation collected millions in donations from parties interested in the deal while Hillary Clinton presided on the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States....

The final court case also made no mention of any connection to the influence peddling conversations the FBI undercover informant witnessed about the Russian nuclear officials trying to ingratiate themselves with the Clintons even though agents had gathered documents showing the transmission of millions of dollars from Russia’s nuclear industry to an American entity that had provided assistance to Bill Clinton’s foundation, sources confirmed to The Hill....What is all this actually saying, TSA?

Break it down for me.

How much did Russia end up giving to the Clinton Foundation?

[TSA]

PwzaMSsD24U

[Pavlov]

A political cover up of epic proportions is unraveling before your eyes and you need someone else to tell you what it means :rollinWell, yeah -- your refusal to say what you think is going to happen is always your biggest tell when you make a BOOM BOOM.

[Pavlov]

PwzaMSsD24UWhat are you saying, TSA?

[RandomGuy]

FBI uncovered Russian bribery plot before Obama administration approved controversial nuclear deal with Moscow

Before the Obama administration approved a controversial deal in 2010 giving Moscow control of a large swath of American uranium, the FBI had gathered substantial evidence that Russian nuclear industry officials were engaged in bribery, kickbacks, extortion and money laundering designed to grow Vladimir Putin’s atomic energy business inside the United States, according to government documents and interviews.

Federal agents used a confidential U.S. witness working inside the Russian nuclear industry to gather extensive financial records, make secret recordings and intercept emails as early as 2009 that showed Moscow had compromised an American uranium trucking firm with bribes and kickbacks in violation of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, FBI and court documents show.

They also obtained an eyewitness account — backed by documents — indicating Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President Bill Clinton’s charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow, sources told The Hill.

The racketeering scheme was conducted “with the consent of higher level officials” in Russia who “shared the proceeds” from the kickbacks, one agent declared in an affidavit years later.

Rather than bring immediate charges in 2010, however, the Department of Justice (DOJ) continued investigating the matter for nearly four more years, essentially leaving the American public and Congress in the dark about Russian nuclear corruption on U.S. soil during a period when the Obama administration made two major decisions benefitting Putin’s commercial nuclear ambitions.

The first decision occurred in October 2010, when the State Department and government agencies on the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States unanimously approved the partial sale of Canadian mining company Uranium One to the Russian nuclear giant Rosatom, giving Moscow control of more than 20 percent of America’s uranium supply.

When this sale was used by Trump on the campaign trail last year, Hillary Clinton’s spokesman said she was not involved in the committee review and noted the State Department official who handled it said she “never intervened ... on any [Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States] matter.”

In 2011, the administration gave approval for Rosatom’s Tenex subsidiary to sell commercial uranium to U.S. nuclear power plants in a partnership with the United States Enrichment Corp. Before then, Tenex had been limited to selling U.S. nuclear power plants reprocessed uranium recovered from dismantled Soviet nuclear weapons under the 1990s Megatons to Megawatts peace program.

“The Russians were compromising American contractors in the nuclear industry with kickbacks and extortion threats, all of which raised legitimate national security concerns. And none of that evidence got aired before the Obama administration made those decisions,” a person who worked on the case told The Hill, speaking on condition of anonymity for fear of retribution by U.S. or Russian officials.

The Obama administration’s decision to approve Rosatom’s purchase of Uranium One has been a source of political controversy since 2015.

That’s when conservative author Peter Schweitzer and The New York Times documented how Bill Clinton collected hundreds of thousands of dollars in Russian speaking fees and his charitable foundation collected millions in donations from parties interested in the deal while Hillary Clinton presided on the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States.

The Obama administration and the Clintons defended their actions at the time, insisting there was no evidence that any Russians or donors engaged in wrongdoing and there was no national security reason for any member of the committee to oppose the Uranium One deal.

But FBI, Energy Department and court documents reviewed by The Hill show the FBI in fact had gathered substantial evidence well before the committee’s decision that Vadim Mikerin — the main Russian overseeing Putin’s nuclear expansion inside the United States — was engaged in wrongdoing starting in 2009.

Then-Attorney General Eric Holder was among the Obama administration officials joining Hillary Clinton on the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States at the time the Uranium One deal was approved. Multiple current and former government officials told The Hill they did not know whether the FBI or DOJ ever alerted committee members to the criminal activity they uncovered.

Spokesmen for Holder and Clinton did not return calls seeking comment. The Justice Department also didn’t comment.

Mikerin was a director of Rosatom’s Tenex in Moscow since the early 2000s, where he oversaw Rosatom’s nuclear collaboration with the United States under the Megatons to Megwatts program and its commercial uranium sales to other countries. In 2010, Mikerin was dispatched to the U.S. on a work visa approved by the Obama administration to open Rosatom’s new American arm called Tenam.

Between 2009 and January 2012, Mikerin “did knowingly and willfully combine, conspire confederate and agree with other persons … to obstruct, delay and affect commerce and the movement of an article and commodity (enriched uranium) in commerce by extortion,” a November 2014 indictment stated.

His illegal conduct was captured with the help of a confidential witness, an American businessman, who began making kickback payments at Mikerin’s direction and with the permission of the FBI. The first kickback payment recorded by the FBI through its informant was dated Nov. 27, 2009, the records show.

In evidentiary affidavits signed in 2014 and 2015, an Energy Department agent assigned to assist the FBI in the case testified that Mikerin supervised a “racketeering scheme” that involved extortion, bribery, money laundering and kickbacks that were both directed by and provided benefit to more senior officials back in Russia.

“As part of the scheme, Mikerin, with the consent of higher level officials at TENEX and Rosatom (both Russian state-owned entities) would offer no-bid contracts to US businesses in exchange for kickbacks in the form of money payments made to some offshore banks accounts,” Agent David Garden testified.

“Mikerin apparently then shared the proceeds with other co-conspirators associated with TENEX in Russia and elsewhere,” the agent added.

The investigation was ultimately supervised by then-U.S. Attorney Rod Rosenstein, an Obama appointee who now serves as President Trump’s deputy attorney general, and then-Assistant FBI Director Andrew McCabe, now the deputy FBI director under Trump, Justice Department documents show.

Both men now play a key role in the current investigation into possible, but still unproven collusion between Russia and Donald Trump’s campaign during the 2016 election. McCabe is under congressional and Justice Department inspector general investigation in connection with money his wife’s Virginia state Senate campaign accepted in 2015 from now-Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe at a time when McAuliffe was reportedly under investigation by the FBI.

The connections to the current Russia case are many. The Mikerin probe began in 2009 when Robert Mueller, now the special counsel in charge of the Trump case, was still FBI director. And it ended in late 2015 under the direction of then-FBI Director James Comey, who Trump fired earlier this year.

Its many twist and turns aside, the FBI nuclear industry case proved a gold mine, in part because it uncovered a new Russian money laundering apparatus that routed bribe and kickback payments through financial instruments in Cyprus, Latvia and Seychelles. A Russian financier in New Jersey was among those arrested for the money laundering, court records show.

The case also exposed a serious national security breach: Mikerin had given a contract to an American trucking firm called Transport Logistics International that held the sensitive job of transporting Russia’s uranium around the United States in return for more than $2 million in kickbacks from some of its executives, court records show.

One of Mikerin’s former employees told the FBI that Tenex officials in Russia specifically directed the scheme to “allow for padded pricing to include kickbacks,” agents testified in one court filing.

Bringing down a major Russian nuclear corruption scheme that had both compromised a sensitive uranium transportation asset inside the U.S. and facilitated international money laundering would seem a major feather in any law enforcement agency’s cap.

But the Justice Department and FBI took little credit in 2014 when Mikerin, the Russian financier and the trucking firm executives were arrested and charged.

The only public statement occurred an entire year later when the Justice Department put out a little-noticed press release in August 2015, just days before Labor Day. The release noted that the various defendants had reached plea deals.

By that time, the criminal cases against Mikerin had been narrowed to a single charge of money laundering for a scheme that officials admitted stretched from 2004 to 2014. And though agents had evidence of criminal wrongdoing they collected since at least 2009, federal prosecutors only cited in the plea agreement a handful of transactions that occurred in 2011 and 2012, well after the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States’s approval.

The final court case also made no mention of any connection to the influence peddling conversations the FBI undercover informant witnessed about the Russian nuclear officials trying to ingratiate themselves with the Clintons even though agents had gathered documents showing the transmission of millions of dollars from Russia’s nuclear industry to an American entity that had provided assistance to Bill Clinton’s foundation, sources confirmed to The Hill.

The lack of fanfare left many key players in Washington with no inkling that a major Russian nuclear corruption scheme with serious national security implications had been uncovered.

On Dec. 15, 2015, the Justice Department put out a release stating that Mikerin, “a former Russian official residing in Maryland was sentenced today to 48 months in prison” and ordered to forfeit more than $2.1 million.

Ronald Hosko, who served as the assistant FBI director in charge of criminal cases when the investigation was underway, told The Hill he did not recall ever being briefed about Mikerin’s case by the counterintelligence side of the bureau despite the criminal charges that were being lodged.

“I had no idea this case was being conducted,” a surprised Hosko said in an interview.

Likewise, major congressional figures were also kept in the dark.

Former Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.), who chaired the House Intelligence Committee during the time the FBI probe was being conducted, told The Hill that he had never been told anything about the Russian nuclear corruption case even though many fellow lawmakers had serious concerns about the Obama administration’s approval of the Uranium One deal.

“Not providing information on a corruption scheme before the Russian uranium deal was approved by U.S. regulators and engage appropriate congressional committees has served to undermine U.S. national security interests by the very people charged with protecting them,” he said. “The Russian efforts to manipulate our American political enterprise is breathtaking.”

Indictment, warrant, plea deal links

https://www.scribd.com/document/361782806/Indictment-Affidavit#from_embed

https://www.scribd.com/document/361783030/Warrant-Affidavit#from_embed

https://www.scribd.com/document/361783782/Mikerin-Plea-Deal#from_embed

Thank you.

[RandomGuy]

I guess the dividing line between criminals you care about, and ones you don't is whether they have a magic "D" behind their name?

If the parties were reversed, you would be screaming bloody murder about a coverup.

What does that say about your priorities?

I care a lot about anything Democrats might have been doing wrong.

Unfortunately, your article was long on allegations and short on data.

[RandomGuy]

Tell us again how Russia wasn't funneling money into the Clinton Foundation.

Tell us again, who specifically gave money, how much, and what was the implied quid pro quo.

Your claim, your burden of proof.

[TSA]

You're going to have to be more specific than The Hill was.

What is all this actually saying, TSA?

Break it down for me.

How much did Russia end up giving to the Clinton Foundation?

You are going to have to be more specific than The Hill's eyewitness account backed by documents :rollin

[RandomGuy]

A political cover up of epic proportions is unraveling before your eyes and you need someone else to tell you what it means :rollin

I am reasonably sure I understand the issue. I am not sure you fully understand it.

[Pavlov]

You are going to have to be more specific than The Hill's eyewitness account backed by documents :rollinI quoted everything The Hill said about the foundation.

How much money did they say Russia funneled into the foundation? You can round it to the nearest thousand, TSA.

[RandomGuy]

Its many twist and turns aside, the FBI nuclear industry case proved a gold mine, in part because it uncovered a new Russian money laundering apparatus that routed bribe and kickback payments through financial instruments in Cyprus, Latvia and Seychelles. A Russian financier in New Jersey was among those arrested for the money laundering, court records show.

Important here:

Money laundering
Cyprus
Russia


Google that.

See what happens.

Add the term "deutsche bank" and repeat.

[RandomGuy]

Trump's commerce secretary oversaw Russia deal while at Bank of Cyprus



Democrats raised questions about Ross’s tenure at the Bank of Cyprus before his confirmation, but Ross has said the White House has refused to allow him to respond to the queries. Senator Cory Booker and other Democrats recently sent a third letter to Ross with more questions, including whether Ross had ever done business with companies that were under US sanctions.

In 2014, the Bank of Cyprus was still considered to be in a precarious state following a dramatic €10bn rescue of Cyprus’s banking sector by the ECB and the IMF. Under the terms of the deal, many of the bank’s wealthy Russian deposit holders lost their cash and became shareholders in the bank.

Ross, who had made billions of dollars years earlier by betting on bankrupt steel mills, was known for taking risky bets. But his decision to inject €400m into the bank with other investors encompassed a different kind of risk. It put him at the centre of the biggest financial institution in a country that was widely considered to be a tax haven for Russian oligarchs, even as the US and EU were imposing sanctions on Russia. In 2014, the year he made his investment, the US State Department considered Cyprus an area of “primary concern” for money laundering (pdf), according to its official assessment.

Ross was appointed vice-chairman at the bank after his investment in 2014, a post he shared with a deposit holder-turned-shareholder, Vladimir Strzhalkovsky, referred to in Russian media as a former KGB official and Putin ally. According to the bank’s annual reports, the two attended two board meetings together in 2014 and as many as five together in 2015 before Strzhalkovsky’s May 2015 resignation from the board. One of the questions that has been posed to Ross by Democratic senators is whether he ever had contact with Strzhalkovsky.

One of Ross’s first big decisions at the bank was the appointment of former Deutsche Bank chief executive Josef Ackermann as chairman, whom he chose in part because of Ackermann’s “huge Rolodex”, according to a 2014 Bloomberg interview.

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Ackermann’s ties to Russia were especially strong, including a warm relationship with Putin and Herman Gref of Sberbank.

Peter Harrell, who served as the deputy assistant secretary for counter-threat finance and sanctions in the State Department at the time and is now an adjunct senior fellow at the Center for a New American Security, said Cyprus was “obviously” one of the places the Obama administration was worried about at the time because it was seen as a place that could help Russian entities evade sanctions, imposed as a result of the conflict over Crimea.

“Cyprus is an EU member state, but given the opacity of the environment there, given the history, there was a risk that it could be used to evade sanctions,” Harrell told the Guardian.

Why would Trump give anyone involved in Russian money laundering high profile jobs in their administration?

[TSA]

920095972360847360

Either the Hill scooped her story or there is more shit sandwiches for Chumpdumper to eat.

[Pavlov]

Trump's commerce secretary oversaw Russia deal while at Bank of Cyprus




Why would Trump give anyone involved in Russian money laundering high profile jobs in their administration?Because that fucking moron let people launder money through his casino with impunity.

[Pavlov]

920095972360847360

Either the Hill scooped her story or there is more shit sandwiches for Chumpdumper to eat.So how much money did The Hill say Russia funneled into the Clinton Foundation?

[Pavlov]

Lookit how the DOJ covered this up for two years by posting details of the laundering case on their public website two years ago!

According to court documents, Mikerin was the director of the Pan American Department of JSC Techsnabexport (TENEX), a subsidiary of Russia’s State Atomic Energy Corporation and the sole supplier and exporter of Russian Federation uranium and uranium enrichment services to nuclear power companies worldwide, and the president of TENAM Corporation, a wholly owned subsidiary and the official representative of TENEX. Court documents show that between 2004 and October 2014, conspirators agreed to make corrupt payments to influence Mikerin and to secure improper business advantages for U.S. companies that did business with TENEX, in violation of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act (FCPA). Mikerin admitted that he conspired with Daren Condrey, Boris Rubizhevsky and others to transmit approximately $2,126,622 from Maryland and elsewhere in the United States to offshore shell company bank accounts located in Cyprus, Latvia and Switzerland with the intent to promote the FCPA violations. Mikerin further admitted that the conspirators used consulting agreements and code words to disguise the corrupt payments.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/former-russian-nuclear-energy-official-sentenced-48-months-prison-money-laundering-conspiracy


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[TSA]

Lookit how the DOJ covered this up for two years by posting details of the laundering case on their public website two years ago!

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/former-russian-nuclear-energy-official-sentenced-48-months-prison-money-laundering-conspiracy


https://m.popkey.co/290975/9MOyQ.gif

Bringing down a major Russian nuclear corruption scheme that had both compromised a sensitive uranium transportation asset inside the U.S. and facilitated international money laundering would seem a major feather in any law enforcement agency’s cap.

But the Justice Department and FBI took little credit in 2014 when Mikerin, the Russian financier and the trucking firm executives were arrested and charged.

The only public statement occurred an entire year later when the Justice Department put out a little-noticed press release in August 2015, just days before Labor Day. The release noted that the various defendants had reached plea deals.

By that time, the criminal cases against Mikerin had been narrowed to a single charge of money laundering for a scheme that officials admitted stretched from 2004 to 2014. And though agents had evidence of criminal wrongdoing they collected since at least 2009, federal prosecutors only cited in the plea agreement a handful of transactions that occurred in 2011 and 2012, well after the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States’s approval.

The final court case also made no mention of any connection to the influence peddling conversations the FBI undercover informant witnessed about the Russian nuclear officials trying to ingratiate themselves with the Clintons even though agents had gathered documents showing the transmission of millions of dollars from Russia’s nuclear industry to an American entity that had provided assistance to Bill Clinton’s foundation, sources confirmed to The Hill.

The lack of fanfare left many key players in Washington with no inkling that a major Russian nuclear corruption scheme with serious national security implications had been uncovered.

On Dec. 15, 2015, the Justice Department put out a release stating that Mikerin, “a former Russian official residing in Maryland was sentenced today to 48 months in prison” and ordered to forfeit more than $2.1 million.

Ronald Hosko, who served as the assistant FBI director in charge of criminal cases when the investigation was underway, told The Hill he did not recall ever being briefed about Mikerin’s case by the counterintelligence side of the bureau despite the criminal charges that were being lodged.

“I had no idea this case was being conducted,” a surprised Hosko said in an interview.

Likewise, major congressional figures were also kept in the dark.

Former Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.), who chaired the House Intelligence Committee during the time the FBI probe was being conducted, told The Hill that he had never been told anything about the Russian nuclear corruption case even though many fellow lawmakers had serious concerns about the Obama administration’s approval of the Uranium One deal.

“Not providing information on a corruption scheme before the Russian uranium deal was approved by U.S. regulators and engage appropriate congressional committees has served to undermine U.S. national security interests by the very people charged with protecting them,” he said. “The Russian efforts to manipulate our American political enterprise is breathtaking.”

[TSA]

So how much money did The Hill say Russia funneled into the Clinton Foundation?



https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html

[Pavlov]

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.htmlThat's not The Hill, TSA.

How much money did The Hill say Russia funneled into the Clinton Foundation?

[Pavlov]

Bringing down a major Russian nuclear corruption scheme that had both compromised a sensitive uranium transportation asset inside the U.S. and facilitated international money laundering would seem a major feather in any law enforcement agency’s cap.

But the Justice Department and FBI took little credit in 2014 when Mikerin, the Russian financier and the trucking firm executives were arrested and charged.

The only public statement occurred an entire year later when the Justice Department put out a little-noticed press release in August 2015, just days before Labor Day. The release noted that the various defendants had reached plea deals.

By that time, the criminal cases against Mikerin had been narrowed to a single charge of money laundering for a scheme that officials admitted stretched from 2004 to 2014. And though agents had evidence of criminal wrongdoing they collected since at least 2009, federal prosecutors only cited in the plea agreement a handful of transactions that occurred in 2011 and 2012, well after the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States’s approval.

The final court case also made no mention of any connection to the influence peddling conversations the FBI undercover informant witnessed about the Russian nuclear officials trying to ingratiate themselves with the Clintons even though agents had gathered documents showing the transmission of millions of dollars from Russia’s nuclear industry to an American entity that had provided assistance to Bill Clinton’s foundation, sources confirmed to The Hill.

The lack of fanfare left many key players in Washington with no inkling that a major Russian nuclear corruption scheme with serious national security implications had been uncovered.

On Dec. 15, 2015, the Justice Department put out a release stating that Mikerin, “a former Russian official residing in Maryland was sentenced today to 48 months in prison” and ordered to forfeit more than $2.1 million.

Ronald Hosko, who served as the assistant FBI director in charge of criminal cases when the investigation was underway, told The Hill he did not recall ever being briefed about Mikerin’s case by the counterintelligence side of the bureau despite the criminal charges that were being lodged.

“I had no idea this case was being conducted,” a surprised Hosko said in an interview.

Likewise, major congressional figures were also kept in the dark.

Former Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.), who chaired the House Intelligence Committee during the time the FBI probe was being conducted, told The Hill that he had never been told anything about the Russian nuclear corruption case even though many fellow lawmakers had serious concerns about the Obama administration’s approval of the Uranium One deal.

“Not providing information on a corruption scheme before the Russian uranium deal was approved by U.S. regulators and engage appropriate congressional committees has served to undermine U.S. national security interests by the very people charged with protecting them,” he said. “The Russian efforts to manipulate our American political enterprise is breathtaking.”Yeah, you posted that wall of text before.

What are you saying this means, TSA? What do you say is going to happen?

[Chris]

This really happened. This is a real thing.

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:lmao

[Chris]

PsLoU4TWHE0

[Chris]

uaGoA26EDVo

[Pavlov]

lol tick tock Hannity Jones

[djohn2oo8]

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And succeeded.

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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Trump's booty hole getting tight

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[TSA]

That's not The Hill, TSA.

How much money did The Hill say Russia funneled into the Clinton Foundation?

You and I both read the same Hill article and you and I both know your follow up question is which American entity, which the NYT link answers. Your schtick is too predictable.

[TSA]

Sorry djohn your thread has been hijacked. No amount of tweets from you will save it now.

[Pavlov]

You and I both read the same Hill article and you and I both know your follow up question is which American entity, which the NYT link answers. Your schtick is too predictable.So you agree The Hill doesn't say how much money the Russians funneled to the Clinton Foundation at all.


How much does the NYT say the Russians funneled to the Clinton Foundation?

[Pavlov]

Sorry djohn your thread has been hijacked. No amount of tweets from you will save it now.I predict your BOOM won't BOOM as much as you think it will BOOM. Of course you're being a pussy about saying what you think will happen. You've been burned so badly before.

[djohn2oo8]

Sorry djohn your thread has been hijacked. No amount of tweets from you will save it now.

Trump's presidency bout to be hijacked. No amounts of Russian money will save it now.

[djohn2oo8]

Hmm Kushner has hired another lawyer. Thats alot of money for a nothingburger.

[TSA]

So you agree The Hill doesn't say how much money the Russians funneled to the Clinton Foundation at all.


How much does the NYT say the Russians funneled to the Clinton Foundation?

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html

[TSA]

Trump's presidency bout to be hijacked. No amounts of Russian money will save it now.

Flynn still isn't in major trouble. Trump's presidency is fine.

[Pavlov]

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html
How much, TSA? Post a number. Commit for once.

[TSA]

A Russian nuclear firm under FBI investigation was allowed to purchase US uranium supply

Fifteen months before the 13 members of the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States, known as CFIUS, approved the sale of the Canadian company Uranium One to Russia’s nuclear arm giant Rosatom, the FBI began investigating persons who were connected to the Russian state corporation. The FBI said in court documents and in interviews conducted by Circa that by 2010 they had gathered enough evidence to prove that Rosatom-connected officials were engaged in a global bribery schedule that included kickbacks and money laundering. FBI officials said the investigation could have prevented the sale of Uranium One, which controlled 20 percent of U.S. uranium supply under U.S. law.

The deal which required approval by CFIUS, an inter-agency committee who reviews transactions that leads to a change of control of a U.S. business to a foreign person or entity that may have an impact on the national security of the United States. At the time of the Uranium One deal the panel was chaired by then-Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and included then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and then-Attorney General Eric Holder.

By the time CFIUS approved the sale of Uranium One to Rosatom the FBI’s investigation had already gathered substantial evidence of bribery and kickbacks against a Russian national, Vadim Mikerin, who was then a top official with Rosatom’s Tenex subsidiary, according to court documents. The FBI said while at Tenex, which was located in Maryland, Mikerin was involved in multiple bribery and kickback schemes.

In a 2015 affidavit, FBI officials said Mikerin, “with the consent of higher level officials at Tenex and Rosatom (both Russian state-owned entities), would offer no-bid contracts to U.S. businesses in exchange for kickbacks in the form of money...” made to offshore accounts, stated the affidavit in support of a search warrant. Mikerin pled guilty to the allegations.

Affidavit in support of an application under rule 41 for a warrant to search

The Justice Department didn’t move forward an indictment with prosecution of bribery by people tied to Rosatom, through subsidies and other entities, until 2014 after CFIUS approved the sale of Uranium One, leaving the American public without knowledge of the Russian company’s allegedly illegal actives as it went to procure one-fifth of U.S. uranium supply.

In August 2015, Mikerin pled guilty to money laundering conspiracy involving violations of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, according to a Department of Justice press release. By the end of 2015, four defendants were indicted in the years long investigation, according to court records and a Justice Department.

United States of America v. Vadim Mikerin - Original Indictment

“Mikerin admitted that he conspired with Daren Condrey, Boris Rubizhevsky and others to transmit approximately $2,126,622 from Maryland and elsewhere in the United States to offshore shell company bank accounts located in Cyprus, Latvia and Switzerland with the intent to promote the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act violations,” according to a DOJ press release announcing the charges against the then defendants in 2014. “Mikerin further admitted that the conspirators used consulting agreements and code words to disguise the corrupt payments.”

United States v. Vadim Mikerin - Final Plea Agreement

Condrey was an executive of an American trucking company, Transportation Logistics International (TLI) based in Fulton, Maryland, which was authorized at the time to move Russian uranium around the United States, according to contracts and documents reviewed by Circa. Condrey pled guilty in June 2015, to conspiring to violate the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act (FCPA) and conspiring to commit wire fraud.

Rubizhevsky, a Russian national, who was the president of NEXGEN security, in New Jersey, worked as a consultant for Mikerin and Tenam, according to court documents. He aided in the scheme to get the contracts awarded to TLI, according to the Justice Department. Rubizhevsky pled guilty to conspiracy to commit money laundering in June 2015.

"A Russian state-owned enterprise responsible for selling Russian nuclear materials, contracted with a U.S. public relations expert in 2009 to provide public relations and marketing consulting services to TENEX in the United States," states a court warrant. "The contractor approached the FBI and received authorization to participate in the scheme."

Victoria Toensing, a lawyer for the FBI informant, said her client “is not only afraid of the Russian people, but he is afraid of the US government because of the threats the Obama administration made against him."

Toensing said, “My client was providing information for a couple years before this really got voted on by CFIUS, and here’s the rub. High-ranking law enforcement officials in the Obama Administration (Mueller, Rosenstein, McCabe, Comey) knew that there was corruption in this company and that information about the corruption in this Russian entity never made it to CFIUS, evidently, because CFIUS authorized the purchase in 2010.”

According to a 2010 press released from Tenex, a Rosatom subsidy, the company had signed “10 -long term Enriched Uranium Product supply contracts with eight U.S. utilities exceeding $4.3 billion and is aiming to expand its operations in the USA and beyond.”

By late October 2010, “Technabexport (TENEX) opened its first subsidiary in the United States,” known as Tenam Corp., which was a part of the Russian state nuclear arm Rosatom, according to press releases and documents.

One of the points of contention for people investigating the Clinton's connections with Russia and the Uranium One deal was a $500,000 payment given to Bill Clinton by the Russian bank Renaissance Capital for a speech he gave in Moscow in June 2010. Analysts at Renaissance Capital, who paid the Bill Clinton for the speech, spoke highly of Uranium One’s stock saying in July 2010 research report that it was “the best play” in the uranium markets. The speech by Bill Clinton and the 2010 research report by Renaissance Capital happened while CFIUS, of which Hillary Clinton was a sitting member, was looking at the Uranium One sale to Rosatom. A spokesperson for Hillary Clinton did not return calls seeking comment and no evidence has been presented the speech payment made to Bill Clinton had any connection to the passage of the deal. Officials at Renaissance Capital could not be reached immediately for comment.

“At the time of the investigation did any of the U.S. law enforcement, intelligence or other agencies involved in the case inform the CFIUS board of the ongoing investigation? If not, why not? If they were informed, why did they make the decision they did to approve the Uranium One transaction? Did the president, himself, know?,” a U.S. official who worked counterintelligence cases related to Russia told Circa.

The bribery schemes included delivering thousands of dollars in yellow envelopes, laundering tens of thousands of dollars in briefcases or wiring thousands of dollars through shell companies through the Seychelle Islands, Latvia, Cyprus and Switzerland to name a few.

During the time of the FBI’s investigation which began in 2009, Tenex was able to expand its American foothold with $6 billion in new utility contracts, according to documents and news reports obtained by Circa.

The case being built against Mikerin in 2010 was under the supervision of Maryland U.S. Attorney Rod Rosenstein, then an Obama appointee who now serves as President Trump’s deputy attorney general. According to court documents, the case was also handled by then Assistant FBI Director Andrew McCabe, who is currently the deputy FBI director under Trump. The Department of Justice and the FBI would not comment on the bribery investigation of Mikerin.

Other agencies, including the CIA, State Department and U.S. Department of Energy were also involved in their own extensive investigations during that same period regarding Rosatom, according to several U.S. officials who spoke to Circa. It is unclear what the end results were of those investigations.

"One thing is certain, other agencies must have known what was going on but more importantly, did the CFIUS members?" said one U.S. official, who was not authorized to speak on the matter.

https://www.circa.com/story/2017/10/17/national-security/the-fbi-uncovered-russian-nuclear-kickback-scheme-months-before-the-obama-administration-passed-uranium-one-deal-with-moscow

[TSA]

How much, TSA? Post a number. Commit for once.

I've provided you more than enough.

[Pavlov]

I've provided you more than enough.Nope. I asked for a number. Quantify this corruption you are half-assed alleging.

[TSA]

Nope. I asked for a number. Quantify this corruption you are half-assed alleging.

I've provided you more than enough to find the number on your own.

[TSA]

The case being built against Mikerin in 2010 was under the supervision of Maryland U.S. Attorney Rod Rosenstein, then an Obama appointee who now serves as President Trump’s deputy attorney general. According to court documents, the case was also handled by then Assistant FBI Director Andrew McCabe, who is currently the deputy FBI director under Trump. The Department of Justice and the FBI would not comment on the bribery investigation of Mikerin.

Other agencies, including the CIA, State Department and U.S. Department of Energy were also involved in their own extensive investigations during that same period regarding Rosatom, according to several U.S. officials who spoke to Circa.

https://www.circa.com/story/2017/10/17/national-security/the-fbi-uncovered-russian-nuclear-kickback-scheme-months-before-the-obama-administration-passed-uranium-one-deal-with-moscow


Ronald Hosko, who served as the assistant FBI director in charge of criminal cases when the investigation was underway, told The Hill he did not recall ever being briefed about Mikerin’s case by the counterintelligence side of the bureau despite the criminal charges that were being lodged.

“I had no idea this case was being conducted,” a surprised Hosko said in an interview.

Likewise, major congressional figures were also kept in the dark.

Former Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.), who chaired the House Intelligence Committee during the time the FBI probe was being conducted, told The Hill that he had never been told anything about the Russian nuclear corruption case even though many fellow lawmakers had serious concerns about the Obama administration’s approval of the Uranium One deal.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/355749-fbi-uncovered-russian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration


Why was the assistant FBI director in charge of criminal cases never briefed? Why was the chair of the House Intelligence Committee never briefed?


I'm looking forward to the next pieces from Sara Carter.

[Pavlov]

I've provided you more than enough to find the number on your own.:lol are you afraid to commit to a number or are you unable to actually calculate one?

Same ol' TSA. Walls of text and innuendo. Burgers of nothing.

[TSA]

:lol are you afraid to commit to a number or are you unable to actually calculate one?

Same ol' TSA. Walls of text and innuendo. Burgers of nothing.

The number doesn't concern me. You've been given the links if you'd like to calculate it for yourself but you won't because you just want to deflect from the crux of the stories that broke yesterday.

The real issue you refuse to address is that high-ranking law enforcement officials in the Obama Administration kept lawmakers and other law enforcement members in the dark about the Russian corruption they knew was happening.

[TSA]

Senate Judiciary opens probe into Obama-era Russian nuclear bribery case

The Senate Judiciary Committee has launched a probe into a Russian nuclear bribery case, demanding several federal agencies disclose whether they knew the FBI had uncovered the corruption before the Obama administration in 2010 approved a controversial uranium deal with Moscow.

Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), the committee chairman, on Wednesday raised the issue in public during questioning of Attorney General Jeff Sessions during an oversight hearing.

The senator cited a series of The Hill stories that showed the FBI had evidence that Russian nuclear officials were involved in a racketeering scheme as early as 2009, well before the uranium deal was approved.

"According to government documents and recent news reports, the Justice Department had an ongoing criminal investigation for bribery, extortion, money laundering, into officials for a Russian company making purchase of Uranium One," Grassley said. "That purchase was approved during previous administration and resulted in Russians owning 20 percent of America's uranium mining capacity.

"What are you doing to find out how Russian takeover of American uranium was allowed to occur despite criminal conduct by Russian company that the Obama administration approved to make the purchase?" he asked Sessions.

Sessions responded: "I would offer that some people have gone to jail in that transaction already, but the article talks about other issues. Without confirming or denying existence of any particular investigation, I would say I hear your concerns and they will be reviewed."

Senate Judiciary aides said the committee had sent requests for information to 10 federal agencies involved in the Russian uranium approvals.

The committee is discussing other bipartisan requests to make in the coming days, and Grassley also is expected to seek access to potential witnesses soon, escalating from the information requests he made a few years back, according to people familiar with the investigation.

The senator also specifically conveyed in recent letters he no longer accepts the Obama administration's assurances from 2015 that there was no basis to block the Uranium One deal.

"I am not convinced by these assurances," Grassley wrote the Homeland Security Department last week. "The sale of Uranium One resulted in a Russian government takeover of a significant portion of U.S. uranium mining capacity. In light of that fact, very serious questions remain about the basis for the finding that this transaction did not threaten to impair U.S. national security."

Though Wednesday's hearing was scheduled for other purposes, aides said they expected Grassley to ask Sessions questions about a story published in The Hill on Tuesday that disclosed the FBI had uncovered evidence showing Russian nuclear officials were engaged in a racketeering scheme involving bribes, kickbacks and money laundering designed to expand Russian President Vladimir Putin's atomic energy business on U.S. soil.

The evidence was first gathered in 2009 and 2010, but Department of Justice officials waited until 2014 to bring any charges. In between that time, President Obama's multi-agency Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) gave approval to Russia's Rosatom to buy a Canadian mining company called Uranium One that controlled 20 percent of America's uranium deposits.

The committee's members at the time included former Attorney General Eric Holder and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, whose husband, former President Bill Clinton, collected large speech fees and millions in charitable donations from Russia and other entities interested in the outcome of the decision.

Grassley dispatched letters last week to all the federal agencies whose executives served on the CFIUS when the decision was made, demanding to know whether they were aware of the FBI case before they voted.

He also questioned whether the documented corruption that was uncovered posed a national security threat that should have voided approval of the uranium deal.

"It has recently come to the Committee’s attention that employees of Rosatom were involved in a criminal enterprise involving a conspiracy to commit extortion and money laundering during the time of the CFIUS transaction," Grassley wrote in one such letter addressed to Sessions.

"The fact that Rosatom subsidiaries in the United States were under criminal investigation as a result of a U.S. intelligence operation apparently around the time CFIUS approved the Uranium One/Rosatom transaction raises questions about whether that information factored into CFIUS’ decision to approve the transaction," the chairman added.

Grassley has been one of the few congressional leaders to have consistently raised questions about the uranium deal, and in 2015 agencies told his committee they had no national security reasons to reject the Moscow approval.

Those representations, however, made no mention of the FBI probe or the national security issues uncovered by agents, including the fact that Russian officials had compromised an American trucking firm that transported uranium.

Grassley's letters demanded answers from the agencies by no later than Oct. 26.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/355957-senate-judiciary-opens-probe-into-obama-era-russian-nuclear-bribery

[boutons_deux]

TSA's, etc's whataboutism to deflect from the criminality, treason of Trash, his gang, and Repugs

[Pavlov]

The number doesn't concern me. You've been given the links if you'd like to calculate it for yourself but you won't because you just want to deflect from the crux of the stories that broke yesterday.OK, I'll total all the money that article says Russia funneled into the Clinton Foundation.

$0.00

Is that the same number you get, TSA?


The real issue you refuse to address is that high-ranking law enforcement officials in the Obama Administration kept lawmakers and other law enforcement members in the dark about the Russian corruption they knew was happening.Is it really the issue, TSA? Why are you going on and on about the Clinton Foundation then?

I'll give a simple reason they were kept in the dark. Leaks. You know, those things you want Democrats and not Republicans to be prosecuted for?

Spell out why you think this is such a big deal and what you think is going to happen because of this yuge revelation.

This is your BOOM. Don't be a pussy about it.

[TSA]

OK, I'll total all the money that article says Russia funneled into the Clinton Foundation.

$0.00

Is that the same number you get, TSA?

Is it really the issue, TSA? Why are you going on and on about the Clinton Foundation then?

I'll give a simple reason they were kept in the dark. Leaks. You know, those things you want Democrats and not Republicans to be prosecuted for?

Spell out why you think this is such a big deal and what you think is going to happen because of this yuge revelation.

This is your BOOM. Don't be a pussy about it.The assistant FBI director in charge of criminal cases and the chair of the House Intelligence Committee were never briefed because of....leaks. :rollin

Was anyone from the CFIUS ever briefed on the criminal enterprise Rosatom was running?