Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

[clambake]

Can't tell if sincere or not.

stop acting like i didn't make it clear to you, dale.

[clambake]

She's raising money for the DNC.


won't even look at that party until she leaves, for good.

[Blake]

god i hate this bitch. go the fuck away.

Fox News won't let her

[Chris]

stop acting like i didn't make it clear to you, dale.

I seriously couldn't tell if you were mocking it or not. I agree with you tbh.

[djohn2oo8]

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:lol under the bus you go Paulieeeee

[djohn2oo8]

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lets not talk about it :rollin

[boutons_deux]

Trump’s most embarrassing comment about Russia at the G7 summit just got revealed

Two diplomatic sources have confirmed to Buzzfeed News (https://www.buzzfeed.com/albertonardelli/trump-russia-crimea?utm_term=.qjxgn3yDy#.beqK9Mjdj) that Trump told his fellow leaders at the G7 that

Crimea is Russian because everyone who lives there speaks Russian.

During the course of the dinner, Trump questioned why his peers were siding with

“one of the most corrupt countries in the world,” referring to Ukraine.

Trump repeated that call on the summit’s second day, saying (https://www.buzzfeed.com/amberjamieson/trump-russia-g7-crimea-g8-ukraine-something-happened?utm_term=.lp5Q8v6Mr#.em3qM0j5v), “This used to be the G8, not the G7. Something happened a while ago where Russia is no longer in.”

https://washingtonpress.com/2018/06/14/trumps-most-embarrassing-comment-about-russia-at-the-g7-summit-just-got-revealed/

So the Manchurian Candidate

loves Pootin

executes Pootin's foreign policy

Blames Obama for letting Russia grab Crimea

but Pootin grabbing Crimea was OK because Russian-speaking Crimea is Russian, anyway (Thanks, Obama!)

US/NATO overthrowing Pootin's totally corrupt autocrat puppet in Pootin-invaded, occupied Ukraine means Ukraine is corrupt (because it opposes Pootin)

[Winehole23]

I've got some bad news for the president about about South Texas

[DarrinS]

I've got some bad news for the president about about South Texas

Well?

[DarrinS]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[spurraider21]

:lol nothing to do with my campaign

[baseline bum]

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:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

:rollin

[djohn2oo8]

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:lol

[Winehole23]

Well?everybody speaks Spanish there

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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Wonder what happens with his other case

[spurraider21]

dont think this really impacts whatever decision judge ellis makes in his virginia case. that was more based on whether his charges are legal under the special counsel's authority.

and im not sure if a different judge is even allowed to consider these actions taken in another court room. legit dont know that answer

[djohn2oo8]

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lol "stunned". Yeah right.

[baseline bum]

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Hopefully of AIDS

[TSA]

In the end, Manafort will also flip.

Manafort has known Trump since the 80s. Imagine all the dirt he has to offer for freedom. :lol


Manafort, with his extensive ties to Ukraine, is facing decades in prison or tell everything he knows. Shouldn't be a hard choice.




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:lol

[djohn2oo8]

:lol

Want to know who isn't laughing about Manafort going to jail? Trump.

[boutons_deux]

Recall that Manafort is yet another of Trash's mafiya also connected to Pootin through Manafort working for Pootin's Ukrainian puppet and his Ukrainian millionaires.

[djohn2oo8]

July 20, 2016 10:31 AM

CLEVELAND
The chants of "guilty" and "lock her up" from the Republican convention floor reflect the mood of much of America, Donald Trump’s campaign manager said Wednesday.

Irony :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Manafort witness tampering circle jerk getting a bucket of ice water :lol

https://www.lawfareblog.com/manafort-tampering-allegations

Wrong again asshole :lol

[Chucho]

Want to know who isn't laughing about Manafort going to jail? Trump.

Not really. Trump's not going to jail.

[djohn2oo8]

Not really. Trump's not going to jail.

That is your opinion.

[Chucho]

:cryThat is your opinion.:cry

No, it's your opinion/prayer/life-validating wish that he does. The facts tho? He's not even close.

[djohn2oo8]

No, it's your opinion/prayer/life-validating wish that he does. The facts tho? He's not even close.

Then Mueller should just close the investigation now. Since there is no chance? But that is not how it works. Can you explain why you think he wouldn't go to jail?

[Spurminator]

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[spurraider21]

speaking of newt

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[Spurminator]

Guess there's a reason we haven't heard from him in a while.

[Reck]

:lol

Boy so shook he's randomly picking posts and quoting them with nervous laughter.

Is Manafort more likely to flip now that he's in jail (And not getting out of any time soon) or not?

Spare me your post goal moving and answer the question, TSA.

[TSA]

Boy so shook he's randomly picking posts and quoting them with nervous laughter.

Is Manafort more likely to flip now that he's in jail (And not getting out of any time soon) or not?

Spare me your post goal moving and answer the question, TSA.

:lol randomly picking posts

The point of flipping is to avoid jail you dipshit

[boutons_deux]

:lol randomly picking posts

The point of flipping is to avoid jail you dipshit

No, reduced sentence is an option, reduced charge(s) also

[TSA]

No, reduced sentence is an option, reduced charge(s) also

Neither of which he's received. He can't flip on Trump because there is nothing for him to flip on Trump. Manafort would have flipped long ago if he could have yet here he is still fighting charges.

[Reck]

:lol randomly picking posts

The point of flipping is to avoid jail you dipshit

Except he's only in jail because he couldn't stop committing crimes while awaiting a trial about...wait for it...him committing crimes. :lmao

I guess the judge should have just given him a pass until he decided to flip on his own.

BTW, dodge #1.

Are you going to answer the question, yes or no, pizzaboy?

[Reck]

Neither of which he's received. He can't flip on Trump because there is nothing for him to flip on Trump. Manafort would have flipped long ago if he could have yet here he is still fighting charges.

You're always talking for people you have no clue about. :lol

No wonder you're always wrong.

[TSA]

Except he's only in jail because he couldn't stop committing crimes while awaiting a trial about...wait for it...him committing crimes. :lmao

I guess the judge should have just given him a pass until he decided to flip on his own.

BTW, dodge #1.

Are you going to answer the question, yes or no, pizzaboy?


Manafort would have flipped long ago if he could have yet here he is still fighting charges.

[TSA]

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Happy Flynn Friday!

[spurraider21]

:lol idiots who gave to his legal defense fund so that he can "withdraw his guilty plea" :lol

[Pavlov]

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Happy Flynn Friday!Why do you care so much about Flynn?

[Reck]

Dodge #2 noted.

[spurraider21]

Why do you care so much about Flynn?
find out in the next episode of OIG REPORTS

[Pavlov]

:lol Dennison was shedding crocodile tears for King Spook today. Should've donated to his defense fund from his charitable foundation.

[Spurminator]

:lol randomly picking posts

The point of flipping is to avoid jail you dipshit

Or to get out, idiot.

[Pavlov]

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Awaiting verification from LagunaBeachAntifa483.

[Chris]

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[Winehole23]

did the judge make a legal mistake?

or did Manafort violate bail conditions?

[Reck]

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Obama also made Manafort a greedy fuck twat who couldn't manage to go a few months without breaking the law. That Obama guy...geez

[Winehole23]

Sarcasm is dead:

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[Reck]

Sarcasm is dead:

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:lol Children

They're all well into their 30s and what's worst is that even the son in law even turned on him. :cry poor Manafort

[Chris]

Obama also made Manafort a greedy fuck twat who couldn't manage to go a few months without breaking the law. That Obama guy...geez

We was involved with Podesta when the alleged crimes occurred. :tu

[Winehole23]

:lol Children

They're all well into their 30s and what's worst is that even the son in law even turned on him. :cry poor Manafort1007713673014628352

[Winehole23]

We was involved with Podesta when the alleged crimes occurred. :tuManafort going down.

[Chris]

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[Winehole23]

OIG apocrypha.

I warned y'all about the lit crit.

[Chris]

This dude is shook.


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[Chris]

Judge Who Jailed Manafort Also Cleared Hillary Clinton In Benghazi Case



The judge appointed by Barack Obama who put Paul Manafort in jail this week previously cleared Hillary Clinton of responsibility for the deaths of four American servicemen in Benghazi, Libya in 2012. Manafort was put in jail for allegedly engaging in witness tampering, but most people see the jailing as a fraud to divert public attention away from the IG report that slammed James Comey and bolstered President Donald Trump’s arguments against the corrupt Deep State.

Amy Berman Jackson, a past Bill Clinton donor and federal judge, threw out a lawsuit against Hillary Clinton filed by Sean Smith’s mother Patricia Smith and Tyrone Woods’ father Charles Woods. The lawsuit claimed that Hillary Clinton revealing the location of Ambassador Stevens on her non-secure private email server prior to Stevens’ murder put their dead children in harm’s way.

Politico reported in 2017: “Jackson dismissed the wrongful death portion of the suit on technical grounds after granting the State Department’s motion to step in as the defendant on those claims. The Obama-appointed judge concluded Clinton used her email in the course of her official duties.”

How interesting.

Hillary Clinton has never had to face justice for overseeing the Benghazi attack that left four Americans dead, in which those Americans received no help from her in a time of dire need. It has been conclusively proven that Ambassador Stevens was in Benghazi trying to buy back weapons that Obama and Clinton were funneling into Syria to help rebel groups, including the group that became ISIS.

Republican Rep. Ron DeSantis told a Senate Committee adviser that House Speaker Paul Ryan “put the leash” on the House Select Committee on Benghazi’s investigation into Hillary Clinton.

Rep. Trey Gowdy, who headed the Commission, and Rep. Jason Chaffetz, chairman of the House Oversight Committee, both confirmed to the adviser that Ryan effectively shut the investigation down, Big League Politics has exclusively learned.

This revelation has big implications for the “Russia” investigation dogging President Donald Trump’s administration. Gowdy took over as one of the leaders of the House Intelligence Committee probe into alleged Trump-Russia campaign collusion after California Rep. Devin Nunes removed himself from the investigation. Nunes angered anti-Trumpers for backing up some of the White House’s claims on surveillance and Russia. The media targeted Nunes for briefing the White House on some of his findings before he announced them publicly. Ryan ultimately decided that Nunes should be taken off the investigation, saying that Nunes’ problems “would be a distraction for the House Intelligence Committee’s investigation into Russian interference in our election.” Some Republican congressmen are already bashing Nunes’ claims that the Trump transition team was surveilled.

Gowdy became one of the leaders of the investigation, along with Reps. Mike Conaway and Tom Rooney. But Gowdy’s history of taking orders from Ryan does not bode well for Trump, considering that Ryan is a fierce Trump critic behind the scenes with a very different agenda than the president.

Ryan‘s maneuverings in the Benghazi case occurred at the same time that he was shoring up support to take over from John Boehner as House Speaker.

Gowdy‘s interrogation of Clinton before the Commission was massively hyped but produced little actual results, instead allowing Clinton to come off calm, composed, and prepared while sitting for eleven hours of testimony. Rolling Stone called the hearing “Republicans’ 11-Hour Gift To Hillary Clinton.“

Clinton’s testimony occurred in October 2015, before Paul Ryan‘s rival Donald Trump became the presumptive Republican nominee or even won a single primary or caucus.

The hearing also indirectly led to the political downfall of Rep. Kevin McCarthy, who said during a Sean Hannity interview that the purpose of the Commission was to affect Clinton’s poll numbers. McCarthy’s bid to take over as House Speaker collapsed.

https://bigleaguepolitics.com/judge-who-jailed-manafort-also-cleared-hillary-clinton-in-benghazi-case/

[Pavlov]

lol Benghazi again.

You guys are pathetic.

[boutons_deux]

The lady judge who cleared lady Hillary (the FBI cleared Hillary but fucked her over anyway) but jailed man Manafort is obviously a Dem feminazi, right, you nutjobs?

ANYbody who is not right-wing is always wrong, biased, corrupt, fundamentally illegit, right?

[DarrinS]

So, Manafort is in jail for colluding with Russia in the 2016 election, right?

[Pavlov]

So, Manafort is in jail for colluding with Russia in the 2016 election, right?So Darrin thinks he should be totally exonerated and free, right?

[boutons_deux]

Manafort is in jail for violating pre-trial restrictions, eg, witness tampering.

[Spurminator]

So, Manafort is in jail for colluding with Russia in the 2016 election, right?

His witness tampering was for an incident completely outside the scope of the Mueller investigation, is what I'm sure you believe.

[Spurminator]

I can see why Darrin was so triggered by the John Oliver video, it basically describes him to a tee.

[boutons_deux]

A top Republican Senator was just named as Mueller probe’s latest target

Sen. Jim Risch (R-ID) is being investigated

by Robert Mueller for accepting illegal straw donations from the American lobbyists whom Paul Manafort hired to influence policies of Ukraine’s government and the Party of Regions.

Sen. Risch made headlines earlier this year for telling CNN that Russia should get a free pass (https://www.rawstory.com/2018/01/gop-senator-gives-russia-permission-fix-2018-elections-facing-sanctions/) for attacking the 2016 elections.

Massachusetts lawyer J. Whitfield Larrabee filed to the FEC and the Special Counsel’s office.

The Department of Justice replied to Larrabee’s complaint in writing (https://washingtonpress.com/2017/11/03/special-counsel-mueller-is-set-to-investigate-top-republicans-for-accepting-shady-money-from-manaforts-scheme/) last October to inform the attorney that their

Criminal Division formally referred (https://www.scribd.com/document/363431600/Letter-From-Department-of-Justice-Referring-Complaint-To-The-Office-of-Special-Counsel) the case for prosecution.

The Statesman reports (http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article213135899.html):

U.S. Sen. Jim Risch, R-Idaho, was reportedly among numerous American politicians pursued by a Ukrainian lobbying effort now being scrutinized by special counsel Robert Mueller.

A Massachusetts attorney believes Risch received illegal foreign campaign contributions

via a scheme concocted by Manafort and a former business partner, Rick Gates,

in which a foreign national group backed by Yanukovych’s political party used “straw men” to donate to U.S. candidates running for federal office.


“The fact that Sen. Risch is being investigated by Speical Counsel Mueller provides further confirmation that Russian influence reached into the highest levels of the Republican Congressional caucus,”

the attorney J. Whitfield Larrabee says.

“The Republican Congressman involved in this scandal have been corrupted.”

https://washingtonpress.com/2018/06/16/top-gop-senator-just-named-as-mueller-probes-latest-target/

:lol

Pootin understands the Repugs respond, above all, to money, are for sale cheap, and Pootin and his mafiya have $Bs to buy Repugs with.

[boutons_deux]

Russian state TV: 'Crimea is ours; Trump is ours' (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/6/15/1772207/-Russia-state-TV-Crimea-is-ours-Trump-is-ours)

https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1007615091636953089?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailykos.com%2Fstory%2F2 018%2F6%2F15%2F1772207%2F-Russia-state-TV-Crimea-is-ours-Trump-is-ours

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/6/15/1772207/-Russia-state-TV-Crimea-is-ours-Trump-is-ours

[boutons_deux]

After wanting Mueller to wrap it, then saying Trash would clean it up with pardons, now ...

Julie Annie undercuts Trump on inspector general report: ‘I don’t think it exonerates him’

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/06/rudy-giuliani-undercuts-trump-inspector-general-report-dont-think-exonerates/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

RJ's brain is as fucked as Trash's

:lol

[djohn2oo8]

1008325903955394560 Reck Pavlov

Like I said reck. Only about 10 percent of this whole story is public.

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[boutons_deux]

And it sure sounded like the FBI was leaking to Julie Annie, too, esp his Hillary-hating buds in the NY FBI office.

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

And it sure sounded like the FBI was leaking to Julie Annie, too, esp his Hillary-hating buds in the NY FBI office.

They were. The New York field office had lots of Hillary hating agents in there.

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

On his own initiative, Steele decided to also pass the information to British and American intelligence services because he believed the findings were a matter of national security for both countries.[33] However, he became frustrated with the FBI, which he believed was failing to investigate his reports, choosing instead to focus on the investigation into Hillary Clinton's emails. According to The Independent, Steele came to believe that there was a "cabal" inside the FBI, particularly its New York field office linked to Trump advisor Rudy Giuliani, which blocked any attempts to investigate the links between Trump and Russia.

TSA down! TSA down! A 2 hit knockout for the ages folks!

My nigga Steele was right

[djohn2oo8]

Chaffetz received letters regarding both candidates. And declassified Hillary's investigation. Moles were in the NY Field office. He got played and look where Chaffetz is now. Retired. Giuliani had contacts in the NY field office
November 24, 2017.
- Me

[djohn2oo8]

1008325903955394560 Reck Pavlov

Like I said reck. Only about 10 percent of this whole story is public.

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[djohn2oo8]

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:tu

[Pavlov]

Take muh bets on how Dennison worshippers here will spin this.

[Chris]

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[Pavlov]

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https://media1.tenor.com/images/aa58fc971393d35b8619740434c05b29/tenor.gif?itemid=7215697:lol This isn't good news for you tbh.

It might be good news for you if he wanted immunity or some other deal-- but he doesn't.

[Chris]

Looking forward to his testimony on the 302's and why he didn't turn them over to Congress.

[Spurminator]

Looking forward to his testimony on the 302's and why he didn't turn them over to Congress.

You must have a lot of exciting things going on in your life.

[Pavlov]

Looking forward to his testimony on the 302's and why he didn't turn them over to Congress.That wasn't his call, but sure-- look forward to nothing.

[Chris]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Df69c7PV4AEnjrP.jpg:large

[Pavlov]

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[dabom]

:lol

[Chris]

A simple time line with facts and sources equals a conspiracy. Next time I will try to post an op-ed with buzzwords, something in your language.

[Chris]

Here you go.


From Harry Truman to Donald Trump: A long political realignment brought us to this disaster


Political scientist Alan Abramowitz on the decades of racial and cultural realignment that gave us Donald Trump


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As the 2018 midterm elections approach, most Americans still view Donald Trump as an exceptional, if not unique, figure in American politics. From his most fervent supporters to his severest critics, most agree on that. So does the overwhelming majority of the political commentariat, who repeatedly characterize him as anomalous.

Not everyone agrees. Matt Grossmann and David Hopkins, authors of “Asymmetric Politics: Ideological Republicans and Group Interest Democrats” (Salon review here), see relatively little change in how the parties are functioning, beneath the performative surface of Trump’s daily cable TV and social media drama.

Now a new book takes the argument even farther. In “The Great Alignment: Race, Party Transformation, and the Rise of Donald Trump,” Emory University political scientist Alan Abramowitz argues that Trump is the product of an ongoing multigenerational process that has reshaped American politics. In this view, Trump is a striking result of that process, but not a departure from what's been happening for some time — and will likely continue along similar lines after he's gone. The book’s focus on voters and the broader public differs from Grossmann and Hopkins’ party-focused analysis, but their long-term perspectives are complementary: Both see the GOP as a conservative party in the sense meant by William F. Buckley: It is “standing athwart history yelling 'Stop!'"

Abramowitz writes that "while Trump won the election by exploiting the deep divisions in American society, he did not create those divisions," and they won't go away regardless of what becomes of his presidency. He provides an abundance of compelling, detailed evidence, most of which has been lying around in plain sight — in the American National Election Survey (ANES), the results of presidential and congressional elections, etc. But as with the story about Columbus and the egg, you can stare at something for a very long time before someone else shows you the obvious.

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Most fundamentally, Abramowitz argues that the New Deal coalition “based on three major pillars: the white South, the heavily unionized northern white working class, and northern white ethnics” was eroded by post-World War II changes that have transformed American society. Those resenting the changes have become increasingly Republican, those welcoming them, increasingly Democratic:

This transformation has included the civil rights revolution, the expansion of the regulatory and welfare state that was first created during the New Deal era, large-scale immigration from Latin America and Asia, the changing role of women, the changing structure of the American family, the women’s rights and gay rights movements, and changing religious beliefs and practices.

Three cleavages were most prominent in this process — race, culture and ideology — but they each had their own trajectories as well as interactions with the nation’s political geography.

For example, Abramowitz writes, “Results of national exit polls between 1976 and 2012 show that the racial realignment of the American party system took place in two phases.” The first, following the passage of the Voting Rights Act in 1965, primarily entailed African-American voters registering in the South. “As late as 1992, Hispanics and Asian-Americans combined made up only 3 percent of the national electorate,” he notes. But after that, the impacts of immigration from Latin America and Asia produced a second wave of change, with different geographical impacts as well.

If the racial divide had its origins in the 1960s, the cultural divide first emerged in the 1970s, while the ideological divide widened most notably after that. Looking at four ANES questions about social welfare and the role of government, he writes, “The average correlation among the four social welfare questions increased from .29 in 1984 to .50 in 2012, while the average correlation between the social welfare issue questions and the ideology question increasing from .25 in 1984 to .47 in 2012.”

This divide shows up strikingly in exit polls, as 74 percent of Obama voters favored a more active role for the government in solving social problems in 2012, as did 75 percent of Hillary Clinton voters in 2016, “while 84 percent of [Mitt] Romney voters thought the government was already doing too many things that should be left to private individuals or businesses,” as did 78 percent of Trump voters in 2016.

For all the nuance in the dynamics of how these divides widened, Abramowitz traces a broad pattern encompassing the whole: First came "de-alignment," as straight-party voting (79 percent in 1960) eroded (falling to 55 to 63 percent between 1972 and 1988), then realignment, as it rose again (to 81 percent in 2012) but with a twist: negative partisanship, which has been central to Trump’s emergence.

“In this book I explain how racial polarization and the rise of negative partisanship were crucial to the rise of Donald Trump,” Abramowitz told Salon. “They also explain his conduct in the White House, which can be described as governing by dividing.”

Compared to electoral patterns that held through 1990s, Abramowitz highlights three main characteristics: 1) “a close balance of support for the two major political parties,” producing “intense competition for control of Congress and the White House,” but 2) with “widespread one-party domination of elections at the state and local level,” and 3) “a very high degree of consistency” of electoral results “over time and across different types of races,” as state and local elections have become increasingly nationalized.

“These characteristics are closely related,” he argues. “All of them reflect the central underlying reality of American electoral politics: Today’s electorate is strongly partisan because it is deeply divided along racial, ideological, and cultural lines.” Trump is an extreme expression of this fact, but the underlying fact is that extremism has been brewing for quite some time. This was the first point Abramowitz addressed in an interview with Salon.

You write that Trump won by "exploiting the deep divisions in American society" but "did not create those divisions," and they won't go away regardless of what becomes of his presidency. What would you point to as the most striking evidence to get folks to pay attention who've been mesmerized by the Trump spectacle?

Trump is certainly different from previous Republican presidents and from current Republican leaders in Congress — different in style as well as, in certain areas like trade policy, in substance. But in many ways Trump is following in the footsteps of his predecessors.

For example, his attempts to exploit racial resentment among white working-class voters clearly follows in the footsteps of Nixon, Reagan and many other GOP leaders. I show that in response to these efforts as well as the growing diversity of the nation, there has been a sharp increase in racial resentment among Republican voters over the past 20 or 30 years — an increase that made it possible for Trump to exploit this issue in the 2016 Republican primaries.

Moreover, the ease with which so many current Republican elected officials and candidates have fallen in line with Trump’s agenda clearly reflects the divisions that exist today within the electorate and the deep support for key items in that agenda among the Republican base. Negative partisanship was crucial to Trump's victory and remains a key component of his messaging and support among Republican voters. Intense dislike and mistrust of Democrats in general and Hillary Clinton in particular has helped Trump to consolidate his support among Republican voters, despite reservations about his temperament and qualifications.

Your book is in some tension with others in the political science world. Most significantly with the older party-system literature that floundered over the question of what comes after the New Deal system, and with Stephen Skowronek's framework of "political time," largely focused on presidential decision-making. How do you see what you're saying in relation to those accounts?

The main difference I see with Skowronek and others you cite is that I see the actions and decisions of party leaders, including presidents, as secondary factors in the realignment of the parties. I see changes in American society and culture as the main drivers of party transformation, with presidents and other party leaders responding to those changes and exploiting the divisions they create within the electorate.

So, for example, I see growing racial and ethnic diversity and an increasingly secular culture, as well as changes in the structure of the media and rising education levels, as the key factors that have transformed the party system and shaped the behavior of candidates and elected officials. The actions of leaders matter, but I see those actions as constrained by the social and political environment in which they are operating.

If I were to summarize, I'd say that your book describes a non-linear progression driven by three main divides -- racial, cultural and ideological, with geography and interaction effects both playing important roles. How would you improve that description, and what would you cite as the most significant developments?

That’s a pretty good description of the argument of the book. One of the main things it sheds light on is the rise of negative partisanship. Overlapping divisions between the parties have led to the increasingly negative tone of our politics and especially the increasing fear and hatred of the opposing party and its leaders. This, in turn, has contributed to the rise of party loyalty and straight-ticket voting and the nationalization of electoral competition.

In your introduction you say that the book's central argument is that our "deep partisan divide ... is, fundamentally, a disagreement over the dramatic changes that have transformed American society and culture since the end of World War II.” Those who generally welcome the changes are aligned with the Democratic Party, those who don’t are aligned with the Republicans. At a superficial level, this is almost conventional wisdom, but its detailed implications are not nearly as well grasped. What's most important about this story?

I would say that the most important part of the story that is not widely grasped is that the divisions in American society shaping our politics today are mainly racial and cultural and not economic. That’s why so many white “have-nots” support Trump while so many well-educated “haves” are increasingly found in the Democratic camp. Education, not income, is the key divide because it correlates with racial and cultural attitudes.

You explain partisan polarization in terms of three main divides: racial, cultural and ideological, with the racial divide being the most important. What's most important about the trajectory of change they’ve gone through, and what's the most striking evidence to illuminate it?

I’d say what is most striking about the trajectory of change is that, at least with regard to the first two trends, they are driven by forces that seem likely to continue for some time. In the case of the racial divide, we know that the population, and therefore the electorate, will become increasingly diverse for decades. This is driven by the effects of differential fertility rates as well as immigration. As diversity increases, it is also almost inevitable that so will the negative reaction among a large segment of the white electorate.

With regard to the cultural divide, I see it likely to grow for some time due to the deep generational divide within the electorate. Young people in the U.S. are much less likely to be white and Christian than older people. So generational replacement will inevitably increase the proportion of the population who are non-Christian or secular in outlook, and this will almost certainly produce a negative reaction and pushback from those with more traditional beliefs. When it comes to ideology, I think the direction of polarization is less certain, although I don’t see it diminishing anytime soon. But that could depend more on factors such as economic conditions, whih are much less predictable.

There's significant literature out there arguing that most voters aren't ideological. How would you reconcile the evidence in your book with those such as Donald Kinder and Nathan Kalmoe in “Neither Liberal Nor Conservative,” who make arguments downplaying the importance of ideology?

I have big disagreements with those who continue to downplay the role of ideology and the prevalence of ideological thinking in the electorate. A lot has changed since Converse wrote “The Nature of Belief Systems in Mass Publics.” The ideological divide between the parties is much sharper and the electorate is much better educated. There is incontrovertible evidence that voters today are far more ideological than they were in the '50s and '60s. The correlations among issue preferences and between issue preferences, and both ideological self-identification and party identification (and between ideological and party identification), are far stronger today than they used to be. This can be seen in ANES data but also in the Pew data on growing issue consistency and partisan polarization.

As for arguments about the relationship between affective polarization and issue polarization, they are in fact closely connected. It is precisely those voters who are most distant ideologically from the opposing party and its leaders who hold the most negative feelings toward the opposing party and its leaders. Issues and affect cannot be separated. We dislike the opposing party and its leaders mainly because we strongly disagree with its policies.

As I said earlier, geography plays an important role in your story. How would you summarize its impact, and what's the most significant evidence to support your description?

The political geography of the nation has shifted dramatically since the '50s and '60s, due directly to the ideological realignment of the parties. Sixty years ago, the geographic divisions within the country had little to do with policy and ideology. Today they are strongly correlated with policy and ideology. The most conservative geographic units (states, districts, counties) are the most Republican and the most liberal units are the most Democratic. Some of that reflects geographic self-sorting, but a lot of it reflects ideological realignment.

The title of your book suggests a static resting place, but the book itself is all about a continuing process. What are you actually saying about where we are as a country? How should people assimilate both the description of where we are and the fact that these processes are ongoing?

The process of realignment if dynamic and ongoing. That’s why I think it’s a mistake to think about a realigning election or event. American society continues to evolve, party leaders respond strategically, and the electorate in turn responds to both changes in society and culture and the actions of party leaders. There’s a constant interaction among these forces that results, over time, in the transformation of the electorate and the party system. Fifty years from now, I am sure the electorate and party system will look very different from today. For one thing, the Republican Party cannot survive indefinitely as a nationally competitive party if it continues to follow its current path of “doubling down” on aging, conservative white voters.

If you were to sum up, what are the three most important things about where American politics are today, as you describe them, that are commonly misunderstood?

That because of the rise of negative partisanship, we are in a new age of party loyalty and straight-ticket voting -- despite the negative feelings of many voters toward the parties and the popularity of the “independent label.” That the divisions within the electorate are primarily racial and cultural rather than economic. That tinkering with electoral rules will not have much impact on partisan polarization because its sources are deep divisions within the society.

HOW BIGOTRY CONQUERED THE GOP
Salon's Amanda Marcotte on the fall of the conservative movement and the rise of "Troll Nation."


https://www.salon.com/2018/06/17/from-harry-truman-to-donald-trump-a-long-political-realignment-brought-us-to-this-disaster/

[Spurminator]

A simple time line with facts and sources equals a conspiracy. Next time I will try to post an op-ed with buzzwords, something in your language.

Those are real photos and strings on Charlie's wall too.

[djohn2oo8]

Things that make ya go hmmmmmm

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[Chris]

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Caroline O.


#Feminist. Behavioral Scientist. Freelancer. Writer/Editor @Shareblue Media. Reviving the public scholar & making our information space great again.™


Jesus, those poor kids.

[djohn2oo8]

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Caroline O.


#Feminist. Behavioral Scientist. Freelancer. Writer/Editor @Shareblue Media. Reviving the public scholar & making our information space great again.™


Jesus, those poor kids.

Interesting to see "Worked for the Kremlin" from a Trump associate.

[Pavlov]

A simple time line with facts and sources equals a conspiracy. Next time I will try to post an op-ed with buzzwords, something in your language.Timeline with no context whatsoever.

Make your accusations or just be mocked.

[Pavlov]

Interesting to see "Worked for the Kremlin" from a Trump associate.Probably forgot that too until the Mueller reminded him.

[djohn2oo8]

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Oh you mean like when Flynn asked for immunity? Because you didn't say shit about it then biatchhh. :lol

[djohn2oo8]

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[Reck]

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Hey Chris, whatever happened to that ex-FBI guy who was willing to testify to congress? I'm going to go ahead and say Strzok's testimony if he ever does will go along the same line and result in another nada-hamburguesa. :lol

[Chris]

Hey Chris, whatever happened to that ex-FBI guy who was willing to testify to congress? I'm going to go ahead and say Strzok's testimony if he ever does will go along the same line and result in another nada-hamburguesa. :lol

They're still waiting to testify. Almost 30 of them, lordy!

[djohn2oo8]

They're still waiting

So nothing happened. Got it.

[Chris]

So nothing happened. Got it.

Sure, you go with that.

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Why would he? Is not like he's facing any jail time.

A person needs to feel as if they're about to lose everything. The fact that he is not objecting to testify or get any immunity is telling. I thought you were smart enough to pick up on that.

I already told you how this is going to go.

[Chris]

Why would he? Is not like he's facing any jail time.

A person needs to feel as if they're about to lose everything. The fact that he is not objecting to testify or get any immunity is telling. I thought you were smart enough to pick up on that.

I already told you how this is going to go.

Sure, you go with that.

[Pavlov]

1008489113723572224HE'LL TAKE DOWN EVERYONE ON THE CRYSTAL LEVEL FOR SURE!

[djohn2oo8]

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[Reck]

Sure, you go with that.

I will.

[Reck]

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Another of Chris's twitter hero caught with his pants down. You dont say!

[Chris]

A man who previously worked with or for the FBI with an American sounding name approached Stone and offered dirt on Hillary for $2 million. He was turned down and now no one knows where he is. That's what happened. :tu

[Reck]

A man who previously worked with or for the FBI with an American sounding name approached Stone and offered dirt on Hillary for $2 million. He was turned down and now no one knows where he is. That's what happened. :tu

Why is Mueller around when you got investigator Chris Shades on the scene? Right?

[Pavlov]

A man who previously worked with or for the FBI with an American sounding name approached Stone and offered dirt on Hillary for $2 million. He was turned down and now no one knows where he is. That's what happened. :tuWhy didn't Stone or Caputo go straight to the FBI?

Why didn't Manafort, Uday or Cuckner go to the FBI?

[djohn2oo8]

A man who previously worked with or for the FBI with an American sounding name approached Stone and offered dirt on Hillary for $2 million. He was turned down and now no one knows where he is. That's what happened. :tu

You know that accepting that meeting is still a Felony right? There was intent.

[djohn2oo8]

Soliciting information from a foreign national with the purpose of influencing an election is a felony, Christopher. Or else Stone would not have lied multiple times about it.

[djohn2oo8]

Chris. Do you understand this?

[Chris]

Why did the FBI try to entrap the Trump administration?

[Chris]

Greenberg, who sometimes used the name Henry Oknyansky, "had provided information to the FBI for 17 years"

Yikes.

[djohn2oo8]

Why did the FBI try to entrap the Trump administration?

Why didn't Roger Stone, Michael Caputo, Donald Trump Jr, Paul Manafort call the FBI after metting with Russians for dirt, after being warned by the FBI Russians were trying to infiltrate their campaign?

[Chris]

Why would you call the Mob for help when the Mob is trying to entrap you?

[djohn2oo8]

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Entrapment theory dead. It seems Chris shits his pants when he tries to think.

[Chris]

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[djohn2oo8]

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Entrapment theory dead. It seems Chris shits his pants when he tries to think.

Entrapment theory dead. Chris sad.

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Such a love/hate relationship they got with Gowdy.

A few weeks ago when he shit all over the memo and spygate, Trump and Rudy were like Gowdy is not our guy. :cry

Now they're citing his quotes? :lol

[Chris]

Such a love/hate relationship they got with Gowdy.

A few weeks ago when he shit all over the memo and spygate, Trump and Rudy were like Gowdy is not our guy. :cry

Now they're citing his quotes? :lol

Gowdy was the bees knees for Libtards just a while back. I'm sure Gowdy is back on the chopping block now.

[djohn2oo8]

Gowdy was the bees knees for Libtards just a while back. I'm sure Gowdy is back on the chopping block now.

Entrapment theory dead.

[Chris]

Entrapment theory dead.

Nah a counter intelligence briefing doesn't absolve the FBI of entrapment. Solly cholly.

[Chris]

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[Chris]

:lol This isn't good news for you tbh.

It might be good news for you if he wanted immunity or some other deal-- but he doesn't.


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[Spurminator]

These Presidential tweets are going to be baffling to historical scholars in a few decades.

[Spurminator]

:lol Chris found a tweet, your argument is null.

:lmao STEALTH JEFF

[Spurminator]

@I_CUCK_LIBS: Looks like @Chris (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1656)fromST is a CHILD MOLESTER, guys. Retweet now!!


^ Irrefutable proof.

[Reck]

Gowdy was the bees knees for Libtards just a while back. I'm sure Gowdy is back on the chopping block now.

Gowdy is irrelevant then and is now. He made himself a caricarute with the Benghazi shit. He never recovered from that.

[Reck]

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I'm going to go ahead and call this fake news.

Unless you produce something actually substantive and tenable, he hasn't agreed to an deal or immunity.

He has though agreed to testify willfully and without any such deals. :lol

[Chris]

I may be mistaken but I believe his lawyer was referring to letter use immunity. Full immunity from charges is different than immunity from testimony to Congress.

[djohn2oo8]

I may be mistaken but I believe his lawyer was referring to letter use immunity. Full immunity from charges is different than immunity from testimony to Congress.

:lmao What???

[Reck]

I may be mistaken but I believe his lawyer was referring to letter use immunity. Full immunity from charges is different than immunity from testimony to Congress.

ducks level post.

Re-write your post.

[djohn2oo8]

ducks level post.

Re-write your post.

That was on par or worse than his math post.

[Chris]

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[Pavlov]

Wow, maybe they'll fire Comey!

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[Pavlov]

1008795482255187968Did Horowitz find that he actually did that?

lol restated nothingburger

[Spurminator]

I take it not much happening in the IG testimony? I expected a lot more posts.

[spurraider21]

lol, horowitz completely struck down the "unlawful exoneration" crap. he said the conclusion not to prosecute clinton was based on the prosecutor's assessment of facts, the law, and and past department practice." found no reason to believe bias factored into that decision at all

he acknowledged comey breached protocol with the july presser and the "october surprise"

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[Reck]

lol, horowitz completely struck down the "unlawful exoneration" crap. he said the conclusion not to prosecute clinton was based on the prosecutor's assessment of facts, the law, and and past department practice." found no reason to believe bias factored into that decision at all

he acknowledged comey breached protocol with the july presser and the "october surprise"

Not to this guy, it didn't.


Horowitz with the goods today.

:lol

[TSA]

Did Horowitz find that he actually did that?

lol restated nothingburger

that spin attempt lol

[djohn2oo8]

Chris. Still waiting on an explanation of your immunity post.

[Pavlov]

that spin attempt lolWhat goods did Horowitz bring today?

You shut up about that real quick.

[djohn2oo8]

that spin attempt lol

"Guys, keep reading the report, some criminal referrals are bound to appear!!!!!!"

:rollin

[Pavlov]

"Guys, keep reading the report, some criminal referrals are bound to appear!!!!!!"

:rollinCan kick incoming.

[djohn2oo8]

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Hmmm but TSA sed the FBI and DOJ were corrupt with Hillary stans

[djohn2oo8]

Stone freakin out that he finna be indicted
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[boutons_deux]

Will Repugs "lock 'im up" Nunes until he exposes the FBI agents who leaked?

yep, FBI was biased FOR Trash! :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Will Repugs "lock 'im up" Nunes until he exposes the FBI agents who leaked?

yep, FBI was biased FOR Trash! :lol

Wray said they would throw the book at anybody who leaked

[RandomGuy]

lol, horowitz completely struck down the "unlawful exoneration" crap. he said the conclusion not to prosecute clinton was based on the prosecutor's assessment of facts, the law, and and past department practice." found no reason to believe bias factored into that decision at all

he acknowledged comey breached protocol with the july presser and the "october surprise"

So basically, he favored Trump, and harmed Clinton. Looks like the Dems had it right all along. Shocker.

[RandomGuy]

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/16/politics/paul-manafort-virginia-jail-life/index.html

In the federal system, there is no mugshot nor perp walk. If he's found guilty and sent to prison for the amount of time prosecutors hope, the 69-year-old man may never be seen outside again.
Manafort was last seen wearing a navy pinstripe suit, crisp white shirt and burgundy tie in a federal courtroom in DC on Friday, the same courtroom he's appeared in almost a dozen times since his arrest in October. He had lived for the last eight months in his Alexandria, Virginia, condo under house arrest -- a circumstance so confined and uncomfortable, a doctor wrote to the judge regarding his conditions.
But court marshals had to follow the judge's order after a tense proceeding Friday morning. They took Manafort's belt, wallet and tie minutes after he was ordered into custody, leaving the man who once spent $130,000 at a clothing store in Beverly Hills without the comforts he'd entered the building wearing.
Then, Manafort disappeared. Suddenly under custody of the US Marshals Service, Manafort was taken into the back halls and basement of the courthouse along Pennsylvania Avenue. His attorneys, wife and family friends had left the premises, and the more than 100 journalists, photographers, lawyers and spectators had long dissipated. Manafort stayed within that fortress-like building for more than five hours, unable to stride out on his own accord to the waiting Range Rover he'd relied on before.
Northern Neck Regional Jail in Warsaw, Virginia, has him now—his name's listed among upwards of 500 people they're holding.
His housing unit listed on the jail's website: "VIP." He was the only inmate at the jail with that housing unit description as of Saturday.

[spurraider21]

So basically, he favored Trump, and harmed Clinton. Looks like the Dems had it right all along. Shocker.
not so black and white, at least regarding the intent.

horowitz did question why guys like strzok put weinergate stuff on the backburner when they had the info back in august. had the fbi only announced that stuff after the election, they would have looked biased. instead the higher ups felt pressured to get the info out before the election, which is why they sorta blurted it out in october. at least that's the theory.

they initially sat on it, then realized it was a time bomb and had to get it out. it ended up damaging hillary, but there is question if their original intent was to shield.

[Pavlov]

lol, horowitz completely struck down the "unlawful exoneration" crap. he said the conclusion not to prosecute clinton was based on the prosecutor's assessment of facts, the law, and and past department practice." found no reason to believe bias factored into that decision at all

he acknowledged comey breached protocol with the july presser and the "october surprise":rollin det unlawful exoneration
:rollin weaponized


The unlawful exoneration of Hillary Clinton by political operatives in the DOJ/FBI.

The unlawful destruction of evidence; and the manipulation of investigative protocols to gain a specific and pre-planned political outcome. (Peter Strzok, Andrew McCabe)

The unlawful use of the FISA court for political spy operations by the DOJ/FBI.

The unlawful use of the Dept of Justice National Security Division. For weaponized political benefit. (Sally Yates, Loretta Lynch, Bruce Ohr)

The unlawful use of the FBI Counterintelligence Division. For weaponized political benefit. (James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, James Baker)

The unlawful use of a Special Counsel (Mueller) investigation to hide the conspiracy; (James Baker, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Bruce Ohr, Andrew Weissman, Jeannie Rhee, Aaron Zebley)

[djohn2oo8]

So basically, he favored Trump, and harmed Clinton. Looks like the Dems had it right all along. Shocker.

That was not the intention. The NY field office forced his hand and is why they are still under investigation.

[djohn2oo8]

That was not the intention. The NY field office forced his hand and is why they are still under investigation.

And here we go...
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[Pavlov]

And here we go...
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[djohn2oo8]

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[TSA]

And here we go...
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And there it went...

“They said they were satisfied,” Giuliani said of the two agents who interviewed him. “If they want to interview me all over again? They can interview me all over again. ... Maybe they’ll come raid my office like Michael Cohen.” :rollin

[djohn2oo8]

And there it went...

“They said they were satisfied,” Giuliani said of the two agents who interviewed him. “If they want to interview me all over again? They can interview me all over again. ... Maybe they’ll come raid my office like Michael Cohen.” :rollin

You said the FBI was biased. I guess you missed when they leaked to Nunes and Giuliani?

[djohn2oo8]

or is FBI all good again?

[djohn2oo8]

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[RandomGuy]

That was not the intention. The NY field office forced his hand and is why they are still under investigation.

The whiff of political motives has always been strong from that office, and may be closer to the truth than anything Trump Party faithful have been pushing.

[Chris]

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[djohn2oo8]

Funny how none of this breaking news is never on the actual news :lol

[Chris]

Funny how none of this breaking news is never on the actual news :lol

Define actual news. What media outlets are you referring to?

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dodgerjohn couldn't dodge that question fast enough :lol

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Visceral and pretty disgusting.

Going after a guy who is going to die in about 5 months.

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[RandomGuy]

Define actual news. What media outlets are you referring to?

Any major television or print outlet. Fox included.

http://www.foxnews.com/

[Chris]

Any major television or print outlet. Fox included.

http://www.foxnews.com/

You speak for djohn now? Hive mind confirmed.

[RandomGuy]

Funny how none of this breaking news is never on the actual news :lol

Pabst Blue Ribbon shortage may be looming

http://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/2018/06/19/pabst-blue-ribbon-shortage-may-be-looming.html

Nothing about Chris breaking news on Fox. Found this though. Highly important to the Fox "news" higher ups, I'm sure.

[RandomGuy]

You speak for djohn now? Hive mind confirmed.

I went looking for your "breaking" twitter news somewhere. Didn't find it.

If you want to claim that your "breaking" twitter news is important enough to run with all the other shit going on, feel free. No one is stopping you.

[ducks]

Visceral and pretty disgusting.

Going after a guy who is going to die in about 5 months.if McCain can twet and make coments he should be able to take it
he could do the right thing and retire

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:lol

[Pavlov]

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:lolIt's Tuesday.

[Chris]

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:lol

Horowitz confirmed existence of a Grand Jury :lol

[Spurminator]

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That quote appears nowhere in the testimony. Here is a transcript. Perhaps you can point to where this was even implied.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?446817-2/doj-inspector-general-michael-horowitz-testifies-clinton-email-probe-report&vod******=7970

Given how interested you are in this topic, I'm surprised (by that I mean not surprised at all) you're taking play by play from suspect Twitter sources instead of watching it for yourself.

[TSA]

That quote appears nowhere in the testimony. Here is a transcript. Perhaps you can point to where this was even implied.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?446817-2/doj-inspector-general-michael-horowitz-testifies-clinton-email-probe-report&vod******=7970

Given how interested you are in this topic, I'm surprised (by that I mean not surprised at all) you're taking play by play from suspect Twitter sources instead of watching it for yourself.

Weren't you the one that claimed there was no viva la resistance quote because it didn't show up in the search function?

[TSA]

That quote appears nowhere in the testimony. Here is a transcript. Perhaps you can point to where this was even implied.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?446817-2/doj-inspector-general-michael-horowitz-testifies-clinton-email-probe-report&vod******=7970

Given how interested you are in this topic, I'm surprised (by that I mean not surprised at all) you're taking play by play from suspect Twitter sources instead of watching it for yourself.

You linked the House testimony, his tweet clearly says Senate testimony.

[Chris]

That quote appears nowhere in the testimony. Here is a transcript. Perhaps you can point to where this was even implied.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?446817-2/doj-inspector-general-michael-horowitz-testifies-clinton-email-probe-report&vod******=7970

Given how interested you are in this topic, I'm surprised (by that I mean not surprised at all) you're taking play by play from suspect Twitter sources instead of watching it for yourself.

That's a video not a transcript.

You're dumb.

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Flynn

[Chris]

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[Pavlov]

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FlynnThe guy who pleaded guilty and is fully cooperating why again, TSA?

[Spurminator]

You linked the House testimony, his tweet clearly says Senate testimony.

The Senate and House testimonies can be found with links on each other's page. It appears nowhere in the Senate testimony either. Neither does your Sperry tweet about redlines.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?446804-1/doj-inspector-general-fbi-director-testify-clinton-email-probe-report

Why do you lie all the time? It's a very spurious position that requires fiction to make one's case. I'm beginning to think you might actually just be that dumb.

[Reck]

if McCain can twet and make coments he should be able to take it
he could do the right thing and retire

One thing is to comment or be vile and another to accuse the guy of doing borderline illegal shit without proof.

[Spurminator]

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Flynn

Full context:

Rep Mark Meadows (R-NC)
WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT LIKE MR. COMER WAS TALKING ABOUT. I THINK THE OTHER THING I WOULD ASK YOU TO LOOK INTO, THERE IS GROWING EVIDENCE THAT 302s WERE EDITED AND CHANGED. IT GETS BACK TO WHAT MS. HANDEL SAID IN TERMS OF THOSE PARTICULAR INTERVIEW SESSIONS AND THOSE 302s IT IS SUGGESTED THAT THEY WERE CHANGED TO EITHER PROSECUTE OR NOT PROSECUTE INDIVIDUALS. AND THAT IS VERY TROUBLING AND I YIELD BACK, MR. CHAIRMAN.

Horowitz
IF I COULD JUST MENTION, WE HAVE BEEN GETTING THOSE KIND OF REFERRALS AND AS OFTEN HAPPENS WHEN WE ISSUE REPORTS LIKE THIS WE GET OTHER INFORMATION COMING TO US AND WE ARE INTENDING TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT. BUT I JUST WANT TO REASSURE YOU AND THE COMMITTEE, I'M HERE TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE BEING TOLD BY THE FBI IS THEIR CONCERNS. OBVIOUSLY DIRECTOR WRAY AND THE LEADERSHIP OF THE FBI AND OURSELVES, I'M CERTAINLY NOT LOOKING TO STEP ASIDE, BUT -- ON THIS, BUT IT IS THEIR INTERESTS THAT THEY NEED TO BE ARTICULATED TO THE COMMITTEE.

3:05 ---> https://www.c-span.org/video/?446817-2/doj-inspector-general-michael-horowitz-testifies-clinton-email-probe-report******=11093



I can see how this got you so excited.

[Spurminator]

That's a video not a transcript.

You're dumb.

Use the mouse on your computer and scroll down.

Or continue to be a retard.

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[Winehole23]

1009076147513151490STOP THE PRESSES REPUBLICANS WERE BEHIND THE DIRTY DOSSIER

[Pavlov]

WOW NO ONE HAS EVER HEARD OF THESE PEOPLE

[spurraider21]

I can see how this got you so excited.

David Seaman‏@d_seaman 24h24 hours ago (https://twitter.com/d_seaman/status/826200866612862976)An investigation is underway at the federal level, yes. I can't and won't say much else on this. Did my part- Pizzagate changes the world.



https://twitter.com/d_seaman/status/826200866612862976
posted january 2017 fyi

[Spurminator]

posted january 2017 fyi

I'm not going to lie, I have no idea what that means.

[spurraider21]

I'm not going to lie, I have no idea what that means.
TSA believed that federal government had actually launched a pizzagate investigation as of that time. random tweets always get him excited

[djohn2oo8]

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[Chris]

:lol

[Chris]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgFv_glUcAAbyUb.jpg:large

[pgardn]

It’s a fckn Spider!

Seth Rich, eaten. Body was present but all the insides sucked out.
Damn boi.

[DarrinS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr4ro_18P2c

[Spurminator]

TSA believed that federal government had actually launched a pizzagate investigation as of that time. random tweets always get him excited

Jesus, I missed that. :lol

What is it like to keep having your intelligence consistently insulted by random sources you trust, and still keep going back for more?

[pgardn]

Jesus, I missed that. :lol

What is it like to keep having your intelligence consistently insulted by random sources you trust, and still keep going back for more?

MSM is overwhelming.
Its much easier to chose random(but agreeable) twitterphiles.

[Chris]

MSM is overwhelming.
Its much easier to chose random(but agreeable) twitterphiles.

MSM is too complex for us laymen. Got it :tu

[spurraider21]

yep much better to stick with WWI Flamethrower experts and grocery store managers to spoonfeed talking points

[pgardn]

MSM is too complex for us laymen. Got it :tu

Layman...

No.

You look for some sort of fellow backroom channel psychotics to read your palm.

[Reck]

:lol

If I were you and Trump I'd probably feign hilarity too.

[pgardn]

Chris is not Dale is he?

If he is, did he stroke out or what?

[Chris]

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[AaronY]

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Gowdy good again now

[AaronY]

Gowdy agrees with me. Good Gowdy.

Gowdy disagrees with me. Bad Gowdy.

[Chris]

Gowdy good again now

Name me one time I said Gowdy was bad.

[Chris]

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https://media1.tenor.com/images/aa58fc971393d35b8619740434c05b29/tenor.gif?itemid=7215697

[Spurminator]

The fuck is "slept walked"?

[Chris]

Ve0L7IdQWLY

[djohn2oo8]

Chris keeps his hopes eternal after that big L he took

[Chris]

Define actual news. What media outlets are you referring to?

Question pending.

[djohn2oo8]

Question pending.
First explain your immunity theory. The difference. :lol

[Chris]

First explain your immunity theory. The difference. :lol

There are different types of immunity. This isn't a theory.

Define actual news. What media outlets are you referring to?

[djohn2oo8]

There are different types of immunity. This isn't a theory.

Define actual news. What media outlets are you referring to?

Which types?

[Chris]

Which types?

Question pending.

[djohn2oo8]

Question pending.

Which types? I know the answer. You said immunity from charges and immunity from testifying :lol

[Chris]

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[djohn2oo8]

Which types? I know the answer. You said immunity from charges and immunity from testifying :lol

[Chris]

Which types? I know the answer. You said immunity from charges and immunity from testifying :lol

Yes, FULL IMMUNITY or transactional immunity from prosecution and charges or use immunity from testimony relating to Congress.

[Chris]

Question pending.

[Chris]

Question pending..

[Chris]

Question pending...

[Reck]

Chris, you ok dog?

[Chris]

No I'm not ok. I've got one chickenshit who won't answer a simple question that requires little to no thought. I've got another chickenshit who's pretending to care about my well being. You're all full of shit.

[djohn2oo8]

Yes, FULL IMMUNITY or transactional immunity from prosecution and charges or use immunity from testimony relating to Congress.

:lol actually it is USE immunity or transactional immunity.
https://www.justice.gov/usam/criminal-resource-manual-717-transactional-immunity-distinguished

[djohn2oo8]

:lol Chris with the quick edit.

[djohn2oo8]

No I'm not ok. I've got one chickenshit who won't answer a simple question that requires little to no thought. I've got another chickenshit who's pretending to care about my well being. You're all full of shit.

:lmao :rollin in ya head my nigga

[AaronY]

No I'm not ok. I've got one chickenshit who won't answer a simple question that requires little to no thought. I've got another chickenshit who's pretending to care about my well being. You're all full of shit.
lol