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pgardn
06-15-2017, 01:41 PM
Stupid ass. Russia hacked our systems and voter rolls and changed information. He did not "win".

BS.

There is no evidence they did this FOR Trump.
The evidence we have seen clearly points to the attempt to cause any kind of chaos, not directly work for Trump.
You don't know the above.

And even if they did you are telling me this was strategic enough to target those key Midwestern swing states.
Stuff it, you don't have any idea what you are talking about here.

Total BS.

TSA
06-15-2017, 01:42 PM
Wait, wait, wait...

Sessions said he did not believe.
And more importantly, when a staffer is asked to get a big list of donor lobbyists together for a dinner as a fundraiser... There are many outs to this. Does Sessions even know him. Did Sessions ask Burt directly to come to the dinner knowing Burt was a Russian lobbyist?You're pissing all over his BOOM

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/15/lobbyist-russian-interests-jeff-sessions-testimony?CMP=share_btn_tw

Sessions testified under oath on Tuesday that he did not believe he had any contacts with lobbyists working for Russian interests over the course of Trump’s campaign. But Richard Burt, a former ambassador to Germany during the Reagan administration, who has represented Russian interests in Washington, told the Guardian that he could confirm previous media reports that stated he had contacts with Sessions at the time.

“I did attend two dinners with groups of former Republican foreign policy officials and Senator Sessions,” Burt said.

"Asked whether Sessions was unfamiliar with Burt’s role as a lobbyist for Russian interests – a fact that is disclosed in public records – or had any reason to be confused about the issue, Burt told the Guardian that he did not know."

"When John McCain, the Republican senator from Arizona who is a frequent critic of Trump and Russian president Vladimir Putin, asked Sessions in a hearing this week before the Senate intelligence committee about whether the attorney general had ever had “any contacts with any representative, including any American lobbyist or agent of any Russian company” during the 2016 campaign, Sessions said he did not."

“I don’t believe so,” Sessions said.


"It is also possible that Sessions was not fully aware of Burt’s lobbying history, although Burt’s affiliation with Russian interests is fairly well known in Washington circles."

"The former ambassador and lobbyist appears to have recently sought to downplay his role in helping Trump to formulate the Mayflower speech, telling the Daily Beast earlier this year that he had transmitted his counsel through a third party intermediary."


:cry myBOOM

pgardn
06-15-2017, 01:47 PM
You're pissing all over his BOOM

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/15/lobbyist-russian-interests-jeff-sessions-testimony?CMP=share_btn_tw

Sessions testified under oath on Tuesday that he did not believe he had any contacts with lobbyists working for Russian interests over the course of Trump’s campaign. But Richard Burt, a former ambassador to Germany during the Reagan administration, who has represented Russian interests in Washington, told the Guardian that he could confirm previous media reports that stated he had contacts with Sessions at the time.

“I did attend two dinners with groups of former Republican foreign policy officials and Senator Sessions,” Burt said.

"Asked whether Sessions was unfamiliar with Burt’s role as a lobbyist for Russian interests – a fact that is disclosed in public records – or had any reason to be confused about the issue, Burt told the Guardian that he did not know."

"When John McCain, the Republican senator from Arizona who is a frequent critic of Trump and Russian president Vladimir Putin, asked Sessions in a hearing this week before the Senate intelligence committee about whether the attorney general had ever had “any contacts with any representative, including any American lobbyist or agent of any Russian company” during the 2016 campaign, Sessions said he did not."

“I don’t believe so,” Sessions said.


"It is also possible that Sessions was not fully aware of Burt’s lobbying history, although Burt’s affiliation with Russian interests is fairly well known in Washington circles."

"The former ambassador and lobbyist appears to have recently sought to downplay his role in helping Trump to formulate the Mayflower speech, telling the Daily Beast earlier this year that he had transmitted his counsel through a third party intermediary."


:cry myBOOM

Well I guess you would know about rapid fire posts without proper analysis.
I did not get to the Guardian article actually.
So thanks for that.

TSA
06-15-2017, 01:55 PM
Well I guess you would know about rapid fire posts without proper analysis.
I did not get to the Guardian article actually.
So thanks for that.

Sadly djohn didn't get to the Guardian article either, even though it was linked in his own post.

pgardn
06-15-2017, 02:00 PM
Sadly djohn didn't get to the Guardian article either, even though it was linked in his own post.

My frkn iPad is old and not properly formatted for some of the newspaper layouts so it sometimes takes a while to load. And then the airport wifi can be crappy.

RandomGuy
06-15-2017, 02:04 PM
No BOOM unfortunately

Read the Guardian article

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/15/lobbyist-russian-interests-jeff-sessions-testimony?CMP=share_btn_tw

Senate overwhelmingly votes to impose new sanctions on Russia over election meddling


97-2

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/14/senat...-meddling.html

My question remains, and this is a really good way to falsify my theory. Be happy to admit he isn't compromised, if some evidence supports that. Everything he has done thus far is consistent with compromised and/or some level of collusion. Any actions against Russia would put that to rest. The more he ignores this, the thinner your denials will be, and the stronger the case gets.

What steps has the Trump administration undertaken to hold Russia to account for this?

pgardn
06-15-2017, 02:17 PM
Senate overwhelmingly votes to impose new sanctions on Russia over election meddling


97-2

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/14/senat...-meddling.html

My question remains, and this is a really good way to falsify my theory. Be happy to admit he isn't compromised, if some evidence supports that. Everything he has done thus far is consistent with compromised and/or some level of collusion. Any actions against Russia would put that to rest. The more he ignores this, the thinner your denials will be, and the stronger the case gets.

What steps has the Trump administration undertaken to hold Russia to account for this?

I see your point.

The biggest drawback is that it assumes Trump has the patience and wherewithal to pull off any organized effort. I know you have not asserted that this affected the election, but some bozos like Djohn and boots seem to believe this. I find it highly unlikely. The election was a shocker. Somehow, after the fact, people seem to feel it was ordained (cheating or God given) that Trump should win. That's just BS. How people can just blow off pre election thoughts is amazing to me. Just handily forget it all and start making shit up.

ducks
06-15-2017, 03:57 PM
Donald J. Trump realDonaldTrump
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1h

Crooked H destroyed phones w/ hammer, 'bleached' emails, & had husband meet w/AG days before she was cleared- & they talk about obstruction?

USA USA USA

Pavlov
06-15-2017, 04:05 PM
H*ding*

clambake
06-15-2017, 04:35 PM
grrrrrrr

boutons_deux
06-15-2017, 05:11 PM
Freak out from the orange, emotionally stunted man-child

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Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)Follow


Why is that Hillary Clintons family and Dems dealings with Russia are not looked at, but my non-dealings are?

12:43 PM - 15 Jun 2017


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Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)Follow


Crooked H destroyed phones w/ hammer, 'bleached' emails, & had husband meet w/AG days before she was cleared- & they talk about obstruction?

12:56 PM - 15 Jun 2017

==================

Eat shit, CROOKED motherfucker

Trash PVL so-called Pres, not Hillary

TSA
06-15-2017, 05:11 PM
Senate overwhelmingly votes to impose new sanctions on Russia over election meddling


97-2

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/14/senat...-meddling.html

My question remains, and this is a really good way to falsify my theory. Be happy to admit he isn't compromised, if some evidence supports that. Everything he has done thus far is consistent with compromised and/or some level of collusion. Any actions against Russia would put that to rest. The more he ignores this, the thinner your denials will be, and the stronger the case gets.

What steps has the Trump administration undertaken to hold Russia to account for this?

Upon what evidence is your theory based on?

ducks
06-15-2017, 05:19 PM
Rachel Maddow: 'I Absolutely Believe It's Possible' Trump Did Not Collude With Russia

djohn2oo8
06-15-2017, 05:20 PM
875457634928922624
:lol

boutons_deux
06-15-2017, 05:41 PM
Legal Expert Says Jeff Sessions May Be In Contempt Of Congress

The legal problems keep piling up for Attorney General Jeff Sessions as a legal expert is warning that he is in contempt of Congress.

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/06/15/legal-expert-jeff-sessions-contempt-congress.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

spurraider21
06-15-2017, 05:58 PM
Rachel Maddow: 'I Absolutely Believe It's Possible' Trump Did Not Collude With Russia
maddow is fake news

therefore collusion is real. right?

DarrinS
06-15-2017, 06:02 PM
maddow is fake news

therefore collusion is real. right?

They must have used some crazy encrypted back door channel if FBI, CIA, NSA hasn't discovered it after all these months.

spurraider21
06-15-2017, 06:04 PM
They must have used some crazy encrypted back door channel if FBI, CIA, NSA hasn't discovered it after all these months.
honestly i have no clue

but maddow said there's possibly no collusion, and we know verifiably that maddow is fake news and 100% false

that's good enough for me

DarrinS
06-15-2017, 06:04 PM
Or maybe they taught Sessions some baseball signals to pass messages to Kislyak at the Mayflower.

DarrinS
06-15-2017, 06:06 PM
honestly i have no clue

but maddow said there's possibly no collusion, and we know verifiably that maddow is fake news and 100% false

that's good enough for me


Collusion is sooo last month, tho. It's obstruction now.

spurraider21
06-15-2017, 06:07 PM
Collusion is sooo last month, tho. It's obstruction now.i'll have to wait and see what maddow says and then think the exact opposite because she's fake news

DarrinS
06-15-2017, 06:08 PM
i'll have to wait and see what maddow says and then think the exact opposite because she's fake news

Yeah, I don't watch that dude very often.

djohn2oo8
06-15-2017, 06:10 PM
Or maybe they taught Sessions some baseball signals to pass messages to Kislyak at the Mayflower.

Why does Pence need a lawyer?

djohn2oo8
06-15-2017, 06:11 PM
875486261431152644
:lmao

DarrinS
06-15-2017, 06:18 PM
Why does Pence need a lawyer?

Maybe the Russians have a Girls Gone Wild pee pee tape of him, too.

boutons_deux
06-15-2017, 06:21 PM
875486261431152644
:lmao

Crooked Trash is one sick mofo. Thanks, all you Trash voters.

djohn2oo8
06-15-2017, 06:34 PM
875491855739363328

djohn2oo8
06-15-2017, 06:35 PM
875493308583354368

clambake
06-15-2017, 06:46 PM
maddow said he didn't do it.

Adam Lambert
06-15-2017, 07:35 PM
lol dear leader still bitching about hillary

cant blame him though since his dwindling set of worshippers are also still obsessed with that bitch. gotta maintain the retarded base.

boutons_deux
06-15-2017, 07:39 PM
875493308583354368

NY AG already dedicated a team to investigating Trash's business.

I bet they get him as a repeat money launderer, for the Russian mafiya.

Thread
06-15-2017, 08:08 PM
lol dear leader still bitching about hillary

Absolutely. Ain't nobody getting out of this without being beat black & blue.

Let us proceed...

Thread
06-15-2017, 08:10 PM
Crooked Trash is one sick mofo. Thanks, all you Trash voters.


875517921182732288

Adam Lambert
06-15-2017, 08:10 PM
Absolutely. Ain't nobody getting out of this without being beat black & blue.

Let us proceed...

stop being so prolifically uninteresting, thx

Thread
06-15-2017, 08:48 PM
See, and CNN has set [Dershowitz] out there to tamp down the panic in the nation. He does this on a daily basis::: "Nothing to worry about." "Trump is right, they are wrong." "No obstruction. No collusion." "Trump is okay. Dale is okay. Darrin is okay. 'Adam' is very wrong."

See, this keep (us) & to an extent Trump from mashing the panic button, or, taking up torches & pitchforks. I find myself going to him daily to read it and to feel better, to quell the panic in my brain & heart. By the time it's too late we (Trump, me, Darrin, et al) will be sittin' outside with our respective dicks in our hands. Oh, we'll be a cussin' and a cryin' and a threatenin' and a cryin' and a cryin'. But, will be outPERIOD

Pavlov
06-15-2017, 08:54 PM
Old man work very hard to bore peoples.

Thread
06-15-2017, 08:55 PM
Old man work very hard to bore peoples.

Just say the word and I'm gone. I don't stay where I ain't wanted.

spurraider21
06-15-2017, 08:56 PM
Just say the word and I'm gone. I don't stay where I ain't wanted.
you survived

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=230037&highlight=reform+act

Adam Lambert
06-15-2017, 09:05 PM
Just say the word and I'm gone. I don't stay where I ain't wanted.

you are not wanted. leave. die. bye.

baseline bum
06-15-2017, 09:11 PM
Just say the word and I'm gone. I don't stay where I ain't wanted.

You only leave when disgraced. Like after 5. Like if Trump becomes the second duly elected president to high tail and run off, you'll be in the wind quicker than a rabbit gets fucked.

Thread
06-15-2017, 09:13 PM
You only leave when disgraced. Like after 5. Like if Trump becomes the second duly elected president to high tail and run off, you'll be in the wind quicker than a rabbit gets fucked.

Then say the fuckin' word, bum.

clambake
06-15-2017, 09:18 PM
Then say the fuckin' word, bum.

you gotta stick around.

i want to share.

Thread
06-15-2017, 09:19 PM
Then say the fuckin' word, bum.

That's what I thought. You ain't got a hair on your ass.

Let us proceed...

baseline bum
06-15-2017, 09:29 PM
Then say the fuckin' word, bum.

Duncan 5
Tired old shit bag Bryant 5

Thread
06-15-2017, 09:32 PM
Duncan 5
Tired old shit bag Bryant 5

Too late. I gave you the opportunity to send me to the cornfield, but, you love the old man too much. That's why I challenged your love.

baseline bum
06-15-2017, 09:34 PM
Too late. I gave you the opportunity to send me to the cornfield, but, you love the old man too much. That's why I challenged your love.

I don't want you to leave. You're gonna have to stick around to see what Mueller says.

pgardn
06-15-2017, 09:35 PM
Collusion is sooo last month, tho. It's obstruction now.

Collusion is not off the table either. There is a lot of stuff the special counsel can get into which is why the lawyering up is taking place.

Thread
06-15-2017, 09:39 PM
Collusion is sooo last month, tho. It's obstruction now.

& CNN admits it, that King guy that does that show about Noon said so, said that they'd been over their skies about it. That it was obstruction now.

boutons_deux
06-15-2017, 10:08 PM
Mueller Is Coming for Trump

The special counsel’s expanding probe will reveal loads of dirt from the president’s financial past—making the temptation to fire him even greater.

The GOP isn’t quite sure what it’s helping Trump to cover up—but as long as he promises to sign its bills, the party will condone his outrageous misdeeds (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/05/comey_s_gone_and_the_gop_doesn_t_care_is_there_any thing_trump_could_do_to.html).

This strategy now appears poised to backfire spectacularly.

On Wednesday, both the New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/14/us/politics/mueller-trump-special-counsel-investigation.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news) and the Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/special-counsel-is-investigating-trump-for-possible-obstruction-of-justice/2017/06/14/9ce02506-5131-11e7-b064-828ba60fbb98_story.html?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.dd585d5fe14a) reported that special counsel Robert Mueller is

investigating Trump’s inner circle for financial crimes.

This aggressive shift toward Trump associates’ personal dealings is disastrous news for the president, his allies, and his enablers.

At long last, federal investigators will probe Trump’s sprawling network for wrongdoing, picking up where reporters left off, only this time with subpoena power (http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/18/politics/donald-trump-robert-mueller-democracy/index.html). And Trump can only stop them by firing Mueller—a blatant obstruction of justice that would likely be more damaging than any crime the president may have committed in the past.

Mueller to study complex transactions conducted behind closed doors with little oversight. Mueller can depose witnesses, subpoena records (including tax returns), and interview the president himself under oath. His skilled staff can pursue multiple leads and offer immunity to witnesses who are willing to talk. The special counsel can follow the breadcrumbs of criminality wherever they lead him, even if—especially if—they lead to the Oval Office.

There’s the Azerbaijan hotel project (http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/13/donald-trumps-worst-deal) propped up by graft and bribery with ties to Iran’s Revolutionary Guard. The charitable foundation (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-boasts-of-his-philanthropy-but-his-giving-falls-short-of-his-words/2016/10/29/b3c03106-9ac7-11e6-a0ed-ab0774c1eaa5_story.html?utm_term=.f5389b69dab7) accused of self-dealing and tax fraud. The questionable Deutsche Bank loans (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/05/trump-deutsche-bank-loans-russia/) with ties to Moscow. The close association (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/26/us/politics/jared-kushner-beny-steinmetz.html) with allegedly criminal international companies.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2017/06/robert_mueller_s_probe_will_reveal_loads_of_dirt_f rom_trump_s_financial.html

news today was Jared is under investigation

Thread
06-15-2017, 10:12 PM
^Good, fire his fuckin' ass immediately. And that Rosenstein fellow at the same time. It's a coup attempt. And they ain't fuckin' around. Trump thinks its a game. It ain't a game.

I'd meet 'em on the angle, & I'd part on the square.

Mitch
06-15-2017, 11:10 PM
botox deuce is grasping at straws these days, tbh.

Quadzilla99
06-15-2017, 11:12 PM
That is one horribly lame nickname Mitch. Jesus

Reck
06-15-2017, 11:47 PM
botox deuce is grasping at straws these days, tbh.

By posting what's been reported? :lol

djohn2oo8
06-16-2017, 06:07 AM
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boutons_deux
06-16-2017, 06:08 AM
More Trash gifts to Pootin

Donald Trump’s new hardline policy on Cuba is yet another gift to Russia

But most foreign-policy observers think

Russia has more to gain if the US restricts ties with Cuba than if it expands them.

Without cash from US tourists and companies, the island will be increasingly dependent on Russia as an economic patron, especially as Venezuela, another stalwart Cuban ally, falls apart.

“If we pull out and return to a policy of isolation, then we leave the field open, not just for the Russians but for

the Chinese, who are also really interested in building influence in Cuba,”

William Leogrande, an American University expert on Latin America, told me last week.

In recent years,

Russia has forgiven billions of dollars of Cuban debt and become

a major supplier of petroleum once again.

Military cooperation between the two countries,

including a Russian base 90 miles from the US mainland, could be next on the agenda.

“A close military alliance between Russia and Cuba could have grave security consequences for the United States,” US senator Patrick Leahy warned in an op-ed (http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/foreign-policy/337794-putins-stake-in-president-trumps-decision-on-cuba-policy) yesterday. “One obvious way to mitigate Russian influence in our hemisphere is through enhanced engagement with Cuba.”

https://qz.com/1007416/donald-trumps-cuba-trade-and-travel-roll-back-is-another-gift-to-russia/

Pootin's BFF Trash giving Pootin everything he wants.

but but but ... there's no collusion between traitorous, corrupt Trash and murderer Pootin :lol

RandomGuy
06-16-2017, 08:40 AM
Senate overwhelmingly votes to impose new sanctions on Russia over election meddling

97-2

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/14/senat...-meddling.html

My question remains, and this is a really good way to falsify my theory. Be happy to admit he isn't compromised, if some evidence supports that. Everything he has done thus far is consistent with compromised and/or some level of collusion. Any actions against Russia would put that to rest. The more he ignores this, the thinner your denials will be, and the stronger the case gets.

What steps has the Trump administration undertaken to hold Russia to account for this?



Upon what evidence is your theory based on?

https://www.dodge.com/assets/images/vehicles/2016/challenger/model-overview/rt_plus/technology/expanded/2016-challenger-md-rt_plus-uconnect.jpg

Let's try this again.

What steps has the Trump administration undertaken to hold Russia to account for this?

Reck
06-16-2017, 08:42 AM
I think Trump has finally reached the point in which he needs to be put into a looney bin.

875701471999864833

I mean, what?

djohn2oo8
06-16-2017, 09:40 AM
I think Trump has finally reached the point in which he needs to be put into a looney bin.

875701471999864833

I mean, what?

lol he's melting down hard today.

djohn2oo8
06-16-2017, 09:46 AM
875713350398861312


Bobby 3 sticks about to rape the shit out of Trump if Trump doesn't fire him too.

pgardn
06-16-2017, 09:47 AM
I think Trump has finally reached the point in which he needs to be put into a looney bin.

875701471999864833

I mean, what?

Who you appointed Donald.

Again, democracy is a bitch. Pledging loyalty to an idea instead of an authoritarian is a bitch.

Thread
06-16-2017, 09:48 AM
lol he's melting down hard today.

& no one is spared.

Good. "Let no heart be faint. Let every arm be steeled."

Thread
06-16-2017, 09:48 AM
I think Trump has finally reached the point in which he needs to be put into a looney bin.

875701471999864833

I mean, what?

That Jew Deputy AG. He's the one who hired Mueller after Comey set it up.

Thread
06-16-2017, 09:51 AM
https://www.dodge.com/assets/images/vehicles/2016/challenger/model-overview/rt_plus/technology/expanded/2016-challenger-md-rt_plus-uconnect.jpg

Let's try this again.

What steps has the Trump administration undertaken to hold Russia to account for this?

Meddling, my ass. That's a drum beat by the rank & file in the Congress, spearheaded by Media.

Let's see the proof.

There is none.

boutons_deux
06-16-2017, 10:04 AM
Who you appointed Donald.

Again, democracy is a bitch. Pledging loyalty to an idea instead of an authoritarian is a bitch.

W T F ?

RandomGuy
06-16-2017, 10:43 AM
botox deuce is grasping at straws these days, tbh.

Senate overwhelmingly votes to impose new sanctions on Russia over election meddling

97-2

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/14/senat...-meddling.html

My question remains, and this is a really good way to falsify my theory. Be happy to admit he isn't compromised, if some evidence supports that. Everything he has done thus far is consistent with compromised and/or some level of collusion. Any actions against Russia would put that to rest. The more he ignores this, the thinner your denials will be, and the stronger the case gets.

What steps has the Trump administration undertaken to hold Russia to account for this?

RandomGuy
06-16-2017, 10:44 AM
They must have used some crazy encrypted back door channel if FBI, CIA, NSA hasn't discovered it after all these months.

Senate overwhelmingly votes to impose new sanctions on Russia over election meddling

97-2

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/14/senat...-meddling.html

My question remains, and this is a really good way to falsify my theory. Be happy to admit he isn't compromised, if some evidence supports that. Everything he has done thus far is consistent with compromised and/or some level of collusion. Any actions against Russia would put that to rest. The more he ignores this, the thinner your denials will be, and the stronger the case gets.

What steps has the Trump administration undertaken to hold Russia to account for this?

TSA
06-16-2017, 11:22 AM
Senate overwhelmingly votes to impose new sanctions on Russia over election meddling

97-2

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/14/senat...-meddling.html

My question remains, and this is a really good way to falsify my theory. Be happy to admit he isn't compromised, if some evidence supports that. Everything he has done thus far is consistent with compromised and/or some level of collusion. Any actions against Russia would put that to rest. The more he ignores this, the thinner your denials will be, and the stronger the case gets.

What steps has the Trump administration undertaken to hold Russia to account for this?


"Be happy to admit he isn't compromised, if some evidence supports that." you have no evidence he's compromised

"Everything he has done thus far is consistent with compromised and/or some level of collusion" you have no evidence he's compromised and no evidence of collusion

"The more he ignores this, the thinner your denials will be, and the stronger the case gets." your case with no evidence does not get stronger without evidence

Mitch
06-16-2017, 11:52 AM
By posting what's been reported? :lol

:lol good to see you weren't the shooter brosef. Heard he was a fellow Bernie supporter so I was pretty sure it wasn't you.

pgardn
06-16-2017, 11:57 AM
W T F ?

Trump appointed people he now accuses of doing the wrong thing.
His hires are not all pledging loyalty to him ya damn fathead.
so wtf...

You disagree?

boutons_deux
06-16-2017, 12:01 PM
Trump appointed people he now accuses of doing the wrong thing.
His hires are not all pledging loyalty to him ya damn fathead.
so wtf...

You disagree?

He accuses which of his appointees of doing wrong?

Which are not pledging loyalty?

boutons_deux
06-16-2017, 12:10 PM
Lobbyist for Russian interests says he attended dinners hosted by Sessions

Richard Burt contradicts Jeff Sessions’ testimony that he didn’t believe he had contacts with lobbyists working for Russian interests during Trump’s campaign

An American lobbyist for Russian interests who helped craft an important foreign policy speech for Donald Trump has confirmed that he attended two dinners hosted by Jeff Sessions during the 2016 campaign, apparently contradicting the attorney general’s sworn testimony (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/13/jeff-sessions-russia-collusion-senate-testimony) given this week.

Sessions testified under oath on Tuesday that he did not believe he had any contacts with lobbyists working for Russian interests over the course of Trump’s campaign.

But Richard Burt, a former ambassador to Germany during the Reagan administration, who has represented Russian interests in Washington, told the Guardian that he could confirm previous media reports that stated he had contacts with Sessions at the time.

“I did attend two dinners with groups of former Republican foreign policy officials and Senator Sessions,” Burt said.

Asked whether Sessions was unfamiliar with Burt’s role as a lobbyist for Russian interests – a fact that is disclosed in public records – or had any reason to be confused about the issue, Burt told the Guardian that he did not know.

Several media reports published before Trump’s election in November noted that Burt advised then candidate Trump on his first major foreign policy speech, a role that brought him into contact with Sessions personally.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/15/lobbyist-russian-interests-jeff-sessions-testimony?CMP=share_btn_tw

Like Trash, Sessions is a compromised, corrupt LIAR

ducks
06-16-2017, 12:30 PM
CNN's Smerconish Makes Case Trump Didn't Obstruct Justice
Lawyer and CNN host Michael Smerconish on Friday said the obstruction of justice probe into President Donald Trump "absolutely is a witch hunt," and that the president "deserves better than this."

In a near 6-minute video posted on his Facebook page, Smerconish breaks down the sequence of events at the heart of the reported investigation into Trump, making the case that there is no obstruction of justice.
The host of "The Michael Smerconish Program" on Sirius XM began with the "pledge of loyalty" conversation between Trump and then FBI Director James Comey in January.

"President Trump had the audacity to say to Jim Comey, 'I need your loyalty.' As if that's a criminal offense," Smerconish says. "There is nothing at all wrong with that. As a mater of fact, President Trump would be derelict in his duty if he had a disloyal head of the FBI."
Smerconish then shames the "bastards in the mainstream media" for abetting the distractions and the cloud that had been preventing Trump from accomplishing his goals of "making America great again."

He then addressed the termination of Comey.

"You're damn right he fired him," Smerconish says. "President Trump didn't like Hillary Clinton … but Comey did her wrong. And that bothers Donald Trump. … Donald Trump got rid of an FBI director who had lost the trust of the bureau, and he did all the rest of us a favor in the process."
Smerconish dismissed the "nut job" and "relieve pressure" comments Trump made to the Russians during their Oval Office visit.

"He was being honest with the Russians," Smerconish said. "And you know why he said that? He meant that he had done it to relieve pressure that he was fearing, facing, that was preventing him from achieving his agenda.

"Look, the whole thing — it absolutely is a witch hunt, and Donald Trump deserves better than this," Smerconish concludes.

djohn2oo8
06-16-2017, 12:41 PM
875752494713982977

djohn2oo8
06-16-2017, 12:42 PM
875752879319113728

TSA
06-16-2017, 12:42 PM
875752494713982977

Should I add this guy to the djohn2oo8 will be indicted list?

djohn2oo8
06-16-2017, 12:43 PM
875751904105639936

ducks
06-16-2017, 12:44 PM
oh no they are trying to see if there is any wrong doing and doing there job however one person is not doing their job because they keep running to the press and making making money from the media with telling them what they are doing. I am surprised the press is not reporting that mueler is taking a shit

ducks
06-16-2017, 12:44 PM
875751904105639936

it would be FUCKING stupid not to

clambake
06-16-2017, 12:45 PM
yeah ducks, its fun!

Reck
06-16-2017, 12:50 PM
CNN's Smerconish Makes Case Trump Didn't Obstruct Justice
Lawyer and CNN host Michael Smerconish on Friday said the obstruction of justice probe into President Donald Trump "absolutely is a witch hunt," and that the president "deserves better than this."

In a near 6-minute video posted on his Facebook page, Smerconish breaks down the sequence of events at the heart of the reported investigation into Trump, making the case that there is no obstruction of justice.
The host of "The Michael Smerconish Program" on Sirius XM began with the "pledge of loyalty" conversation between Trump and then FBI Director James Comey in January.

"President Trump had the audacity to say to Jim Comey, 'I need your loyalty.' As if that's a criminal offense," Smerconish says. "There is nothing at all wrong with that. As a mater of fact, President Trump would be derelict in his duty if he had a disloyal head of the FBI."
Smerconish then shames the "bastards in the mainstream media" for abetting the distractions and the cloud that had been preventing Trump from accomplishing his goals of "making America great again."

He then addressed the termination of Comey.

"You're damn right he fired him," Smerconish says. "President Trump didn't like Hillary Clinton … but Comey did her wrong. And that bothers Donald Trump. … Donald Trump got rid of an FBI director who had lost the trust of the bureau, and he did all the rest of us a favor in the process."

BS.

He would never say such a thing. I watch him all the time.

Maybe it's that language barrier thing but he was role playing what a Trump defense (Trump lawyer) would argue against.

https://www.facebook.com/smerconish/videos/10155174135520071/

Pavlov
06-16-2017, 12:55 PM
CNN's Smerconish Makes Case Trump Didn't Obstruct Justice
Lawyer and CNN host Michael Smerconish on Friday said the obstruction of justice probe into President Donald Trump "absolutely is a witch hunt," and that the president "deserves better than this."

In a near 6-minute video posted on his Facebook page, Smerconish breaks down the sequence of events at the heart of the reported investigation into Trump, making the case that there is no obstruction of justice.
The host of "The Michael Smerconish Program" on Sirius XM began with the "pledge of loyalty" conversation between Trump and then FBI Director James Comey in January.

"President Trump had the audacity to say to Jim Comey, 'I need your loyalty.' As if that's a criminal offense," Smerconish says. "There is nothing at all wrong with that. As a mater of fact, President Trump would be derelict in his duty if he had a disloyal head of the FBI."
Smerconish then shames the "bastards in the mainstream media" for abetting the distractions and the cloud that had been preventing Trump from accomplishing his goals of "making America great again."

He then addressed the termination of Comey.

"You're damn right he fired him," Smerconish says. "President Trump didn't like Hillary Clinton … but Comey did her wrong. And that bothers Donald Trump. … Donald Trump got rid of an FBI director who had lost the trust of the bureau, and he did all the rest of us a favor in the process."
Smerconish dismissed the "nut job" and "relieve pressure" comments Trump made to the Russians during their Oval Office visit.

"He was being honest with the Russians," Smerconish said. "And you know why he said that? He meant that he had done it to relieve pressure that he was fearing, facing, that was preventing him from achieving his agenda.

"Look, the whole thing — it absolutely is a witch hunt, and Donald Trump deserves better than this," Smerconish concludes.Why you shamed of newsmax? Give them credit for misleading post.

boutons_deux
06-16-2017, 01:02 PM
"Look, the whole thing — it absolutely is a witch hunt, and Donald Trump deserves better than this," Smerconish concludes.

fuck you and fuck Trash and his entire entourage.

boutons_deux
06-16-2017, 01:23 PM
Why Trump is really angry: Mueller is following the money (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/6/15/1672030/-Why-Trump-is-really-angry-Mueller-is-following-the-money)

the New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/14/us/politics/mueller-trump-special-counsel-investigation.html?action=Click&contentCollection=BreakingNews&contentID=65438771&pgtype=article&_r=0&referer=https://t.co/kiBu89BLxB?amp=1)piece from later on Wednesday evening finishes on a note that’s likely behind the increase in orange ire.


A former senior official said Mr. Mueller’s investigation was looking at money laundering by Trump associates.

The suspicion is that any

cooperation with Russian officials would most likely have been done in exchange for some kind of financial payoff, and that there

would have been an effort to hide the payoffs, most likely by routing them through offshore banking centers.


Looking into not just Trump’s finances, but those of

Jared Kushner, Paul Manafort, Michael Flynn and others makes it all but certain that someone is going to find a friendly team of agents at their door.

That is, if Trump allows Mueller to complete the investigation.

In fact, if Mueller is looking for money laundering, he really doesn’t need to look all that hard (https://www.fincen.gov/news/news-releases/fincen-fines-trump-taj-mahal-casino-resort-10-million-significant-and-long). (https://www.fincen.gov/news/news-releases/fincen-fines-trump-taj-mahal-casino-resort-10-million-significant-and-long)

March 06, 2015


WASHINGTON, DC – The Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN) today imposed a $10 million civil money penalty against Trump Taj Mahal Casino Resort (Trump Taj Mahal), for willful and repeated violations of the Bank Secrecy Act (BSA). […]

Trump Taj Mahal admitted that it failed to implement and maintain an effective [Anti Money Laundering] program; :lol

failed to report suspicious transactions; :lol

failed to properly file required currency transaction reports; :lol



failed to keep appropriate records as required by the BSA. :lol



Looking into money laundering around Trump is like investigating moisture in the middle of the ocean.

If that’s not enough money laundering by Trump, there’s more. (https://www.ft.com/content/33285dfa-9231-11e6-8df8-d3778b55a923?mhq5j=e2)


A Financial Times investigation has found evidence that one Trump venture has multiple ties to an alleged international money laundering network.

Title deeds, bank records and correspondence show that a Kazakh family accused of laundering hundreds of millions of stolen dollars bought luxury apartments in a Manhattan tower part-owned by Mr Trump and embarked on major business ventures with one of the tycoon’s partners.

(http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/fbi-russia-mafia-trump-tower-two-years-2016-presidential-election-us-money-laundering-alimzhan-a7642851.html)
And more (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/fbi-russia-mafia-trump-tower-two-years-2016-presidential-election-us-money-laundering-alimzhan-a7642851.html) ...






The FBI did wiretap Trump Tower to monitor Russian activity, but it had nothing to do with the 2016 Presidential election, it has been reported.

Between 2011 and 2013 the Bureau had a warrant to spy on a high-level criminal Russian money-laundering ring, which operated in unit 63A of the iconic skyscraper — three floors below Mr Trump's penthouse.




And more (http://fortune.com/2017/05/17/donald-trump-russia-2/) …



The plaintiffs in a 2015 racketeering case against Bayrock, Sater, and Arif, among others, alleged in the civil lawsuit that:

“for most of its existence it was substantially and covertly mob-owned and operated,”

engaging “in a pattern of continuous, related crimes, including mail, wire, and bank fraud; tax evasion; money laundering; conspiracy; bribery; extortion; and embezzlement.”

Although the lawsuit does not allege complicity by Trump, it claims that

Bayrock exploited its joint ventures with Trump as a conduit for laundering money and evading taxes.

The lawsuit cites as a “Concrete example of their crime,[B]

Trump SoHo, [which] stands 454 feet tall at Spring and Varick, where it also stands monument to spectacularly corrupt money-laundering and tax evasion.”



Money laundering is what Trump does.

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/6/15/1672030/-Why-Trump-is-really-angry-Mueller-is-following-the-money?detail=emaildkre

Thread
06-16-2017, 01:28 PM
"Look, the whole thing — it absolutely is a witch hunt, and Donald Trump deserves better than this," Smerconish concludes.




It's a deflection strategy by CNN,,,like sending out Dershowitz with the same materiel. Keeps the Republican base mollified for "minutes" while the lynching continues. Once he's swingin' they'll roll over on themselves whilst celebrating to beat the band.

baseline bum
06-16-2017, 01:29 PM
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/019/304/old.jpg

RandomGuy
06-16-2017, 01:35 PM
Senate overwhelmingly votes to impose new sanctions on Russia over election meddling

97-2

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/14/senat...-meddling.html

My question remains, and this is a really good way to falsify my theory. Be happy to admit he isn't compromised, if some evidence supports that. Everything he has done thus far is consistent with compromised and/or some level of collusion. Any actions against Russia would put that to rest. The more he ignores this, the thinner your denials will be, and the stronger the case gets.

What steps has the Trump administration undertaken to hold Russia to account for this?



[doesn't answer, asks a question instead]

[enormous picture with the word "DODGE" redacted]
Let's try this again.

What steps has the Trump administration undertaken to hold Russia to account for this?


[doesn't answer, asks a question instead]

Hmm. I didn't think my question was that hard.

It is almost as if you don't want to, or can't answer it, and this is a recurring pattern in our interactions. Instead of dealing with something that you might not like directly, you dodge and deflect. It usually takes about 3-5 times of me asking a direct question to get an answer.

You would do well to think about why that is. Here is something you might find helpful.

https://designmatrix.wordpress.com/2010/11/14/ten-signs-of-intellectual-honesty-2/

10. Be willing to publicly acknowledge when a point or criticism is good. If someone is unable or unwilling to admit when their opponent raises a good point or makes a good criticism, it demonstrates an unwillingness to participate in the give-and-take that characterizes an honest exchange.

So, let's try one more time, so we can get to something we can agree with. A good debate has to establish facts, and lay ground work, and that can't be done if basic reality can't be agreed on.

What steps has the Trump administration undertaken to hold Russia to account for this?

DarrinS
06-16-2017, 02:03 PM
Inside job, tbh

RandomGuy
06-16-2017, 02:09 PM
Inside job, tbh


Senate overwhelmingly votes to impose new sanctions on Russia over election meddling

97-2

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/14/senat...-meddling.html

My question remains, and this is a really good way to falsify my theory. Be happy to admit he isn't compromised, if some evidence supports that. Everything he has done thus far is consistent with compromised and/or some level of collusion. Any actions against Russia would put that to rest. The more he ignores this, the thinner your denials will be, and the stronger the case gets.

What steps has the Trump administration undertaken to hold Russia to account for this?

DarrinS
06-16-2017, 02:24 PM
Yeah, I don't think action/inaction on Russia proves anything.

Pavlov
06-16-2017, 02:29 PM
Republicans here really like Russia and Putin. Make job so much easy.

djohn2oo8
06-16-2017, 02:39 PM
875796625255518213

Trill Clinton
06-16-2017, 02:53 PM
875751904105639936

Jesus

DarrinS
06-16-2017, 02:56 PM
Can't see why HuffPo would pull this article

Impeachment Is No Longer Enough; Donald Trump Must Face Justice (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/impeachment-is-no-longer-enough-donald-trump-must_us_593dfafee4b094fa859f19ce)




Draining the swamp means not only ejecting Trump from the presidency, but also bringing himself and everyone assisting in his agenda up on charges of treason. They must be convicted (there is little room to doubt their guilt). And then — upon receiving guilty verdicts — they must all be executed under the law. Anything less than capital punishment — or at least life imprisonment without parole in a maximum security detention facility — would send yet another message to the world that America has lost its moral compass.




https://medium.com/@BlueLightsShine/my-response-to-trumps-supporters-8de36b6c83c5

RandomGuy
06-16-2017, 02:58 PM
Yeah, I don't think action/inaction on Russia proves anything.

The only thing the Trump administration appears to be angling for is removing economic sanctions on Russia. One has to wonder why this choice of action is indicated, when common sense would seem to dictate that rewarding them would not be appropriate.

This administration is reinstating restrictions on Cuba, because they view Cuba as hostile, wants to scrap the Iran deal, because they view Iran as hostile, talks about militarily threatening North Korea, because they view NK as hostile, yet nothing about Russia, other than pushing to ease sanctions.

What do you think is so different about Russia to them?

DarrinS
06-16-2017, 03:04 PM
The only thing the Trump administration appears to be angling for is removing economic sanctions on Russia. One has to wonder why this choice of action is indicated, when common sense would seem to dictate that rewarding them would not be appropriate.

This administration is reinstating restrictions on Cuba, because they view Cuba as hostile, wants to scrap the Iran deal, because they view Iran as hostile, talks about militarily threatening North Korea, because they view NK as hostile, yet nothing about Russia, other than pushing to ease sanctions.

What do you think is so different about Russia to them?


Because he's worried they'll release the golden shower whore tapes? :lol

Pavlov
06-16-2017, 03:04 PM
Can't see why HuffPo would pull this article

Impeachment Is No Longer Enough; Donald Trump Must Face Justice (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/impeachment-is-no-longer-enough-donald-trump-must_us_593dfafee4b094fa859f19ce)




https://medium.com/@BlueLightsShine/my-response-to-trumps-supporters-8de36b6c83c5Darrin passionate opponent of death penalty now too.

boutons_deux
06-16-2017, 03:06 PM
"only thing the Trump administration appears to be angling for is removing economic sanctions on Russia."

THAT's the main thing, and includes Rexxon T $500B deal with Pootin.

btw, if Pootin can gratuitously stir up shit in M/E, like this Qatar crap, and push the price of oil back up to $100, Pootin will have his payback in the hard cash $10Bs.

Reck
06-16-2017, 03:06 PM
Can't see why HuffPo would pull this article

Impeachment Is No Longer Enough; Donald Trump Must Face Justice (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/impeachment-is-no-longer-enough-donald-trump-must_us_593dfafee4b094fa859f19ce)




https://medium.com/@BlueLightsShine/my-response-to-trumps-supporters-8de36b6c83c5

"What appears to have garnered the most vitriol was my opinion that President Trump"

Key word being his opinion.

Stop acting like a bigot Darrins. A man has a right to say or write whatever they like.

DarrinS
06-16-2017, 03:07 PM
"What appears to have garnered the most vitriol was my opinion that President Trump"

Key word being his opinion.

Stop acting like a bigot Darrins. A man has a right to say or write whatever they like.


HuffPo removed it -- not me.

Pavlov
06-16-2017, 03:16 PM
Passive and aggressive supposed be opposites. What a language!

RandomGuy
06-16-2017, 04:17 PM
The only thing the Trump administration appears to be angling for is removing economic sanctions on Russia. One has to wonder why this choice of action is indicated, when common sense would seem to dictate that rewarding them would not be appropriate.

This administration is reinstating restrictions on Cuba, because they view Cuba as hostile, wants to scrap the Iran deal, because they view Iran as hostile, talks about militarily threatening North Korea, because they view NK as hostile, yet nothing about Russia, other than pushing to ease sanctions.

What do you think is so different about Russia to them?


Because he's worried they'll release the golden shower whore tapes? :lol

A non-serious answer to a serious question.

You can't answer that question with anything approaching a mature, considered, or informed answer.

So, you are willing to accept an attack on the country, and the very democracy we should all be fighting for, because what? The man in the oval office has an "R" behind his name?

I am embarrassed for you. smh Good men and women have given their lives in the hundreds of thousands over the past 200+ years, so people like you can piss it all away in a fit of laziness.

TSA
06-16-2017, 04:18 PM
Hmm. I didn't think my question was that hard.

It is almost as if you don't want to, or can't answer it, and this is a recurring pattern in our interactions. Instead of dealing with something that you might not like directly, you dodge and deflect. It usually takes about 3-5 times of me asking a direct question to get an answer.

You would do well to think about why that is. Here is something you might find helpful.

https://designmatrix.wordpress.com/2010/11/14/ten-signs-of-intellectual-honesty-2/


So, let's try one more time, so we can get to something we can agree with. A good debate has to establish facts, and lay ground work, and that can't be done if basic reality can't be agreed on.

What steps has the Trump administration undertaken to hold Russia to account for this?

You repeatedly ignore questions from me and then get upset when I do the same to you? :lol

The bill hasn't even made it through the house so Trump hasn't even had the opportunity to sign or reject it---the question you've asked 20 times at this point is moot until it clears the house.

If he signs it that would be action against Russia and you claim that it would put your theory to rest, I don't believe that for a second. If he doesn't sign it you'll come back and say he's compromised, while failing to realize if he didn't sign the bill it was because of threats of retaliation from Germany and Austria due both countries being hurt by the sanctions.

Now lets address this joke of a statement.


My question remains, and this is a really good way to falsify my theory. Be happy to admit he isn't compromised, if some evidence supports that. Everything he has done thus far is consistent with compromised and/or some level of collusion. Any actions against Russia would put that to rest. The more he ignores this, the thinner your denials will be, and the stronger the case gets.

You claim he's compromised and have no such proof. You claim he colluded and have no such proof. You claim you have a case yet have zero evidence. Three claims, three burdens of proof.

RandomGuy
06-16-2017, 05:15 PM
What steps has the Trump administration undertaken to hold Russia to account for this?




The bill [from Congress] hasn't even made it through the house so Trump hasn't even had the opportunity to sign or reject it---

Sigh.

DarrinS
06-16-2017, 05:20 PM
Muh FONTS!!!

RandomGuy
06-16-2017, 05:21 PM
Muh FONTS!!!

Now with 700% more emphasis. :)

DarrinS
06-16-2017, 05:22 PM
It would be ironic if they manage to impeach Trump AND determine there was no collusion whatsoever.

baseline bum
06-16-2017, 05:24 PM
It would be ironic if they manage to impeach Trump AND determine there was no collusion whatsoever.

Even funnier if they find evidence of collusion and they don't impeach.

RandomGuy
06-16-2017, 05:26 PM
You repeatedly ignore questions from me and then get upset when I do the same to you? :lol

The bill hasn't even made it through the house so Trump hasn't even had the opportunity to sign or reject it---the question you've asked 20 times at this point is moot until it clears the house.

If he signs it that would be action against Russia and you claim that it would put your theory to rest, I don't believe that for a second. If he doesn't sign it you'll come back and say he's compromised, while failing to realize if he didn't sign the bill it was because of threats of retaliation from Germany and Austria due both countries being hurt by the sanctions.

Now lets address this joke of a statement.



You claim he's compromised and have no such proof. You claim he colluded and have no such proof. You claim you have a case yet have zero evidence. Three claims, three burdens of proof.

You ignored my question, I ignore yours.

Quid.

Pro.

Quo.

Alternately, since you need to be spoon fed:

So let me get this straight.

A president that signs dozens of executive orders doing all sorts of things, and could easily slap ANYTHING together to make a statement, just forgot to do anything when it comes to a direct assault on our electoral process by a hostile foreign power.

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

That's what you are going with? Really?

Adam Lambert
06-16-2017, 05:29 PM
It would be ironic if they manage to impeach Trump AND determine there was no collusion whatsoever.

no it wouldnt. you are stuck on this idea that most democrats and the media think donald trump was personally arranging the russian interference. we know hes too stupid for that. but we also know members of his campaign may have been coordinating, and hes doing everything he can to keep them from facing justice.

its not that difficult to follow, but i understand its harder to position yourself as oh-so-levelheaded against a rational argument, so you invent an irrational one instead so you can congratulate yourself for not being as crazy as those people.

DarrinS
06-16-2017, 05:34 PM
no it wouldnt. you are stuck on this idea that most democrats and the media think donald trump was personally arranging the russian interference. we know hes too stupid for that. but we also know members of his campaign may have been coordinating, and hes doing everything he can to keep them from facing justice.






The President went on to say that if there were some "satellite" associates of his who did something wrong, it would be good to find that out, but that he hadn't done anything wrong and hoped I would find a way to get it out that we weren't investigating him.

Adam Lambert
06-16-2017, 05:46 PM
oh okay trump said something, that changes everything, my bad, guess well just ignore everything else now, thanks bud

TSA
06-16-2017, 05:49 PM
You ignored my question, I ignore yours.

Quid.

Pro.

Quo.

Alternately, since you need to be spoon fed:

So let me get this straight.

A president that signs dozens of executive orders doing all sorts of things, and could easily slap ANYTHING together to make a statement, just forgot to do anything when it comes to a direct assault on our electoral process by a hostile foreign power.

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

That's what you are going with? Really?

You just posed this question in the last few days. You've dodged multiple questions of mine for weeks. Quid pro quo my ass.

TSA
06-16-2017, 05:50 PM
It would be ironic if they manage to impeach Trump AND determine there was no collusion whatsoever.

That's what they are trying for.

TSA
06-16-2017, 05:52 PM
no it wouldnt. you are stuck on this idea that most democrats and the media think donald trump was personally arranging the russian interference. we know hes too stupid for that. but we also know members of his campaign may have been coordinating, and hes doing everything he can to keep them from facing justice.

its not that difficult to follow, but i understand its harder to position yourself as oh-so-levelheaded against a rational argument, so you invent an irrational one instead so you can congratulate yourself for not being as crazy as those people.

What exactly has Trump done to keep his campaign members from facing justice? Who has he pardoned and what investigations has he shut down?

djohn2oo8
06-16-2017, 06:14 PM
What exactly has Trump done to keep his campaign members from facing justice? Who has he pardoned and what investigations has he shut down?

He asked Comey to drop the Flynn investigation you fucking moron :lol

djohn2oo8
06-16-2017, 06:16 PM
875847063598247936
:lmao

djohn2oo8
06-16-2017, 06:17 PM
875849322323226625

Adam Lambert
06-16-2017, 06:22 PM
What exactly has Trump done to keep his campaign members from facing justice? Who has he pardoned and what investigations has he shut down?

lol

djohn2oo8
06-16-2017, 06:24 PM
875812089239138305

djohn2oo8
06-16-2017, 06:26 PM
875796625255518213

875804079930449920

TSA
06-16-2017, 06:27 PM
lol

Quite the rebuttal. Question remains open.

TSA
06-16-2017, 06:28 PM
He asked Comey to drop the Flynn investigation you fucking moron :lol

Who has he pardoned and what investigations has he shut down?

djohn2oo8
06-16-2017, 06:28 PM
875804079930449920

875822073184223233

djohn2oo8
06-16-2017, 06:29 PM
Who has he pardoned and what investigations has he shut down?

Interfering in his own investigation :lol

TSA the world's biggest fucktard.

djohn2oo8
06-16-2017, 06:29 PM
He fired Comey to STOP the investigation. Dumbass didn't realize this train aint stoppin

TSA
06-16-2017, 06:30 PM
Interfering in his own investigation :lol

TSA the world's biggest fucktard.

How does one interfere in an investigation that didn't exist?

TSA
06-16-2017, 06:32 PM
He fired Comey to STOP the investigation. Dumbass didn't realize this train aint stoppin

The train of baseless accusations with no evidence will continue on no doubt.

djohn2oo8
06-16-2017, 06:39 PM
How does one interfere in an investigation that didn't exist?

It sure exists now. :lmao
lol SA

djohn2oo8
06-16-2017, 06:43 PM
875860257863593985
Deutsche Bank, a major Russian money laundering bank.

Reck
06-16-2017, 06:44 PM
875847063598247936
:lmao

What a nutcase.

you nominate the guy for the job and you're already maligning him.

TSA
06-16-2017, 06:46 PM
It sure exists now. :lmao
lol SA

So he didn't interfere in his own investigation.

boutons_deux
06-16-2017, 07:28 PM
TSA:

C O V E R U P

If Trash and his entourage were being witch hunted, they wouldn't be lying, forgetting, obfuscating. They could and would prove their innocence, so they could get on with #MAGA.

Why don't they come clean?

The C O V E R U P is blatant, UNDENIABLE

btw, the Trash and team's "collusion" was, in my laser-like perception, passive, silent.

Pootin's boys made sure Trash's entourage, and Trash were informed, that the Russians were queering the campaign, attacking Hillary, fabricating fake news all over social media, to elect Trash, expecting fully, wink wink, they would be repaid, which is EXACTLY what Trash has been, and will be doing.

TSA
06-16-2017, 07:28 PM
Mueller may have to recuse himself :rollin

875854393278705664
RandomGuy you're the self proclaimed conflict of interest specialist what's your take?

TSA
06-16-2017, 07:30 PM
TSA:

C O V E R U P

If Trash and his entourage were being witch hunted, they wouldn't be lying, forgetting, obfuscating. They could and would prove their innocence, so they could get on with #MAGA.

Why don't they come clean?

The C O V E R U P is blatant, UNDENIABLE

btw, the Trash and team's "collusion" was, in my laser-like perception, passive, silent.

Pootin's boys made sure Trash's entourage, and Trash were informed, that the Russians were queering the campaign, attacking Hillary, fabricating fake news all over social media, to elect Trash, expecting fully, wink wink, they would be repaid, which is EXACTLY what Trash has been, and will be doing.





must be the most sophisticated cover up the world has seen as the FBI, CIA, and NSA still haven't been able to find a shred of evidence.

:lol large red mad font

boutons_deux
06-16-2017, 07:36 PM
FBI, CIA, and NSA still haven't been able to find a shred of evidence.


PROVE IT.

Reck
06-16-2017, 07:53 PM
Mueller may have to recuse himself :rollin

875854393278705664
RandomGuy (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1813) you're the self proclaimed conflict of interest specialist what's your take?

lmao reaching.

Im most definitely not a lawyer or an aspiring one but where is the conflict of interest? Comey is a potential witness, that's it.

the fact they might be friends shouldn't have to matter unless they're fucking each other.

then again, spurraider21 and the other lawyer in the house should have concrete and a definitive answer.

also, Rosenstein would have known if this would be a problem already.

pgardn
06-16-2017, 08:05 PM
He accuses which of his appointees of doing wrong?

Which are not pledging loyalty?

Uhhhh Comey?

He left him on. He could have immediately let him go. Especially since Trump claims he was going to fire him using his crocodile tears concerning Hillary very early on. Trump has said this. He was planning to get rid of Comey post haste.

Is he going to fire his DOJ hires who appear to be following a more even handed approach now? Has the investigation been dropped? Did he fire Sessions for properly recusing himself? Is the Special Counsel fired yet?

spurraider21
06-16-2017, 08:17 PM
lmao reaching.

Im most definitely not a lawyer or an aspiring one but where is the conflict of interest? Comey is a potential witness, that's it.

the fact they might be friends shouldn't have to matter unless they're fucking each other.

then again, spurraider21 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=31905) and the other lawyer in the house should have concrete and a definitive answer.

also, Rosenstein would have known if this would be a problem already.
i dont see how there's a conflict of interest if comey isnt the subject of the investigation.

the result of the investigation or potential charges are completely inconsequential as to comey. he doesn't stand to benefit from it one way or the other.

i'd have to sift through case law on what constitutes a conflict on interests in this scenario to be certain, and i dont have a ton of time. my gut says no. if you have to recuse yourself because you have a conflict with any tangentially related party to an investigation, then how the fuck can people in government ever be investigated without a conflict somewhere?

how can anybody in the FBI investigate if comey was the director of the FBI :lol...

boutons_deux
06-16-2017, 08:24 PM
Mueller may have to recuse himself :rollin

875854393278705664
RandomGuy (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1813) you're the self proclaimed conflict of interest specialist what's your take?

goddam, y'all right wing nuts are fucking stupid.

y'all's Big Orange Turd is going down and all y'all's dumb takes can't stop it

Comey is NOT the "subject of investigation or prosecution" :lol

Thread
06-16-2017, 08:25 PM
i dont see how there's a conflict of interest if comey isnt the subject of the investigation.

I'll just bet you don't.

spurraider21
06-16-2017, 08:28 PM
I'll just bet you don't.
:rolleyes

djohn2oo8
06-17-2017, 07:02 AM
Flynn flips on Pence. Pence lawyers up then hosts super pac dinner parties to pay for his legal fees :lol

Adam Lambert
06-17-2017, 08:34 AM
Quite the rebuttal. Question remains open.


He asked Comey to drop the Flynn investigation you fucking moron :lol

question only remains open to you. just like the Earth is still flat to some people.

Adam Lambert
06-17-2017, 08:36 AM
Quite the rebuttal. Question remains open.


Mueller may have to recuse himself :rollin

875854393278705664
RandomGuy you're the self proclaimed conflict of interest specialist what's your take?

lmao, keep laughing at other peoples sources while providing BOOMs from "the chairman of @trumpstudents"

TSA
06-17-2017, 11:01 AM
867090972148105217

ducks
06-17-2017, 03:16 PM
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/fr/cp0/e15/q65/19142925_1393814824000724_1175036816182089381_o.jp g?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=113324bee63884def1672baf8c160875&oe=59CEBE35

Pavlov
06-17-2017, 03:20 PM
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/fr/cp0/e15/q65/19142925_1393814824000724_1175036816182089381_o.jp g?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=113324bee63884def1672baf8c160875&oe=59CEBE35Trump and Sessions have power to make investigate.

You tell me why they not make investigate.

ducks
06-17-2017, 03:21 PM
Bob Mueller and the Kushner client conflict question
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN18R2SU

boutons_deux
06-17-2017, 05:45 PM
Rosenstein may need to recuse himself from Russia probe: ABC News

U.S. Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein has privately acknowledged he may need to recuse himself from matters relating to the Russia probe,

given that he could become a potential witness in the investigation,

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-rosenstein-idUSKBN197207?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Reuters%2FPoliticsNews+%28Reu ters+Politics+News%29

boutons_deux
06-17-2017, 05:54 PM
Republicans are already placing their bets on who Pence will pick as his VP after Trump

the latest Republican “parlor game” focuses on who current Vice President Mike Pence would choose as his own VP should President Donald Trump be impeached.

Played in “the shadows of the Russia investigation,” this VP speculation game focuses on the desired “effect” each speculative vice president would have on the country.

The choice of Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan or Nikki Haley would result in a “return to normalcy,”

while Bob Gates or John Boehner would help ease the “anxiety” created by Trump.

Picking Joe Biden or Michael Bloomberg, Axios noted, would “calm the country”

by assuring them there would be no Trump-era status quo in the White House, whereas someone like

Jeff Sessions, Rudy Giuliani or Newt Gingrich

would “keep the spirit of America First Trumpism alive.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/republicans-are-already-placing-their-bets-on-who-pence-will-pick-as-his-vp-after-trump-report/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/republicans-are-already-placing-their-bets-on-who-pence-will-pick-as-his-vp-after-trump-report/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)

:lol

boutons_deux
06-18-2017, 09:13 AM
Lawyer Claims Despite Tweets, Trump Isn’t Under Investigation, ‘Period’

Jay Sekulow, an attorney on President Donald Trump’s legal team, on Sunday said Trump is not under investigation despite a Washington Post report (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/special-counsel-is-investigating-trump-for-possible-obstruction-of-justice/2017/06/14/9ce02506-5131-11e7-b064-828ba60fbb98_story.html?utm_term=.4277abcd162a) to the contrary and a tweet from Trump himself that appeared to confirm the report.

“He’s not afraid of the investigation. There is no investigation. I want to be clear here,” Sekulow said on NBC News’ “Meet the Press.”

When pressed to respond more generally to the federal probe into Russian interference in the 2016 election, he added:

“There is not an investigation of the President of the United States. Period.”

He said Trump posted the tweet in response to the Washington Post’s report.

“The response from the president, using social media, was about that story,” Sekulow said.

“But let me be very clear here, as it has been since the beginning, the President is not and has not been under investigation for obstruction.”

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/lawyer-claims-despite-tweets-trump-not-under-investigation?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20tpm-news%20%28TPMNews%29

Well, so glad that's cleared up. :lol

boutons_deux
06-18-2017, 09:47 AM
Sessions Dined With Lobbyist For Russian Corps, Omitted It In Testimony

On Thursday, an American lobbyist for several major Russian interests, including a state-run energy company and a private equity firm with the state-run Alfa bank, told the Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/15/lobbyist-russian-interests-jeff-sessions-testimony?CMP=share_btn_tw) that Sessions in fact hosted him at two dinners during the presidential campaign. The dinners occurred around the time time that the American public learned of Russian efforts to influence the presidential election.

Richard Burt, a former U.S. ambassador to Germany who now lobbies on behalf a pipeline company owned by the Russian energy giant Gazprom, said he attended events with Sessions at least twice last year, and

his ties to the Trump campaign were reported (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/donald-trump-campaign-lobbyist-russian-pipeline-229264) as early as last October.

Burt also serves on the board of the Center for the National Interest, a Russia-friendly D.C. think tank that hosted Trump’s foreign policy speech at the Mayflower Hotel last April.

Politico reported (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/donald-trump-campaign-lobbyist-russian-pipeline-229264) that Burt helped shape the address Trump delivered at that event, which

Sessions attended as the chairman of the Trump campaign’s national security committee.

This is not the first time Sessions has failed, under oath, to recall a meeting with a Russian official or ally.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/sessions-lobbyist-russian-meeting-trump

===============

Burt became an advisor for the presidential campaign (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_presidential_campaign,_2016) of Donald Trump (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump).[11] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Burt#cite_note-11)

He encouraged Trump to take a less interventionist approach to foreign affairs[12] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Burt#cite_note-12) and

helped craft Trump's first major foreign policy speech at the pro-Russia think tank Center for the National Interest (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_the_National_Interest) on April 27, 2016. In the speech,

Trump called for greater cooperation with Russia.

During the campaign, Burt also wrote white papers for Jeff Sessions (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Sessions) on foreign policy and national security.

Burt's simultaneous roles as a campaign adviser for Trump and a lobbyist for Russian interests first drew scrutiny in October 2016 following the revelations of other connections between the campaign and Russia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump%E2%80%93Russia_dossier).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Burt

So Burt is also one of Pootin's cheap whores

C O V E R U P

Pavlov
06-18-2017, 09:53 AM
867090972148105217TSA believe Mensch just a trolling now.

His story change much.

DarrinS
06-18-2017, 10:14 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOKRLbCuZ4Q

DarrinS
06-18-2017, 10:16 AM
If true, Rosenstein's tweet makes more sense now.

"Americans should exercise caution before accepting as true any stories attributed to anonymous ‘officials,' particularly when they do not identify the country — let alone the branch or agency of government — with which the alleged sources supposedly are affiliated. Americans should be skeptical about anonymous allegations,"

Pavlov
06-18-2017, 10:17 AM
So Trump not need this lawyer.

boutons_deux
06-18-2017, 10:17 AM
Trump his own asshole self said he was under investigation for firing Comey/obstruction

DarrinS
06-18-2017, 10:19 AM
So Trump not need this lawyer.

You try make funny, but not.

Pavlov
06-18-2017, 10:21 AM
You try make funny, but not.So he need this lawyer now?

Why?

Pavlov
06-18-2017, 10:23 AM
Where Darrin go?

Thread
06-18-2017, 10:23 AM
If true, Rosenstein's tweet makes more sense now.

"Americans should exercise caution before accepting as true any stories attributed to anonymous ‘officials,' particularly when they do not identify the country — let alone the branch or agency of government — with which the alleged sources supposedly are affiliated. Americans should be skeptical about anonymous allegations,"

He......+ his wife just want to keep that plum job. He.........+ his wife saw what befell James Comey.........+ his wife and don't want it to befall him.........+ his wife.

Big shot.

Thread
06-18-2017, 10:24 AM
Where Darrin go?

Him behind oak tree, changing into loin cloth...loin cloth rising...Pavlov theory of 14 incher not pretty.

DarrinS
06-18-2017, 10:26 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPKYiRrIf6k

DarrinS
06-18-2017, 10:28 AM
If true, Rosenstein's tweet makes more sense now.

"Americans should exercise caution before accepting as true any stories attributed to anonymous ‘officials,' particularly when they do not identify the country — let alone the branch or agency of government — with which the alleged sources supposedly are affiliated. Americans should be skeptical about anonymous allegations,"


That bolded part is particularly troubling

Pavlov
06-18-2017, 10:29 AM
Great. Darrin back.

Why Trump hire all these lawyers?

Thread
06-18-2017, 10:32 AM
Great. Darrin back.

Why Trump hire all these lawyers?

Scare shit out of Jew & Kraut.

Pavlov
06-18-2017, 10:32 AM
Darrin leave again.

Fabbs
06-18-2017, 10:37 AM
http://api.theweek.com/sites/default/files/summers_3.jpg?resize=807x807

DarrinS
06-18-2017, 10:39 AM
Great. Darrin back.

Why Trump hire all these lawyers?


Because comrades have blackmyail pee pee vidyeo. :lmao

Pavlov
06-18-2017, 10:41 AM
Because comrades have blackmyail pee pee vidyeo. :lmaoThat you don't believe.

So why he hire these lawyers?

Adam Lambert
06-18-2017, 10:54 AM
TSA believe Mensch just a trolling now.

His story change much.

if mensch is trolling then her "friend" milo basically ratted her out.

why would he do that? why wouldnt he play along?

Thread
06-18-2017, 10:58 AM
That you don't believe.

So why he hire these lawyers?

Him watch television. Him watch shows. Him taught,,,lawyer up. Him have lots of how you say? money. Oodles & oodles of boodle. Him hire many mouthpieces.

Him mop fuckin' floor with her fuckin' ass. Nada hey.

Pavlov
06-18-2017, 10:58 AM
Darrin leave again.

Pavlov
06-18-2017, 11:02 AM
if mensch is trolling then her "friend" milo basically ratted her out.

why would he do that? why wouldnt he play along?Right! Friendly pedophile liking guy!

Wait. Not sure if Milo good friend to have. Must ask TSA.

TSA
06-18-2017, 01:00 PM
if mensch is trolling then her "friend" milo basically ratted her out.

why would he do that? why wouldnt he play along?

Because she's accusing him of being a Russian agent?

830953979320401920

Mensch was with Heat Street (Murdoch), Milo with Breitbart (Bannon). Dueling far right trolls.

If all of djohn2oo8 sources (20committee, Claude Taylor, Broadsword 6, counterchekist) turn out to be far right trolls it would be the greatest troll job I've ever witnessed.

Pavlov
06-18-2017, 01:32 PM
Because she's accusing him of being a Russian agent?

830953979320401920

Mensch was with Heat Street (Murdoch), Milo with Breitbart (Bannon). Dueling far right trolls.

If all of djohn2oo8 sources (20committee, Claude Taylor, Broadsword 6, counterchekist) turn out to be far right trolls it would be the greatest troll job I've ever witnessed.Bank account is verifiable fact, yes?

boutons_deux
06-18-2017, 01:46 PM
Trump Screws Himself On Twitter Once More, Making Admissions; His Atty Must Be Fainting (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/6/16/1672598/-Trump-Screws-Himself-On-Twitter-Once-More-Making-Admissions-His-Atty-Must-Be-Fainting)

https://images.dailykos.com/images/411560/story_image/Toxic_TrumpWeb.jpg?1497118828

“I am being investigated for firing the FBI Director by the man who told me to fire the FBI Director!”That was Trump’s Friday morning Tweet to the world and his attorneys must be reaching for smelling salts and wondering for the nth time how their client can be so stupid: (http://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-declares-war-on-rosenstein-he-has-no-qualms-about-throwing-him-under-a-bus?via=newsletter&source=DDAfternoon)

“It’s clear that this tweet has not been vetted by his [Trump’s] attorney,”

said former federal prosecutor Renato Mariotti.

“In addition to confirming that he is under investigation, the tweet makes a factual statement regarding the president’s decision to fire James Comey, which is a subject of the investigation. You can bet that when the president testifies regarding his role in Comey’s firing, he will be asked about this tweet.

”A frustrated senior Trump administration official quipped in response to the tweet,

“Has anyone read him his Miranda rights?” :lol

The implication being that Trump would do well to remain silent on the issue of his own criminal investigation.

“He’s furious at Rosenstein, but the list of his people who enrage him is ever-growing,” a longtime Trump confidant, who recently spoke to the president, told The Daily Beast.

“He has no qualms about throwing [Rosenstein] under a bus.”


Trump is fumbling and flailing and not just with his thumbs on twitter, typing “covfefe.”

He's bouncing off the ropes. Fine, let him.

A heavyweight named Mueller is warming up

and when he and Trump are in the ring together it will be a match that will be described by historians as "epic."



http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/6/16/1672598/-Trump-Screws-Himself-On-Twitter-Once-More-Making-Admissions-His-Atty-Must-Be-Fainting?detail=emaildkre

ducks
06-18-2017, 04:41 PM
Special counsel Robert Mueller has not yet decided whether to investigate President Donald Trump as part of a wide-ranging Russia probe, according to ABC News.

In a report on the outlet's Sunday show, "This Week," ABC News senior justice correspondent Pierre Thomas said his choice will be "momentous."

"Now my sources are telling me he's begun some preliminary planning," Thomas said. "Plans to talk to some people in the administration. But he's not yet made that momentous decision to go for a full-scale investigation."

Adam Lambert
06-18-2017, 04:42 PM
867090972148105217


since youre a seth abramson fan you should enjoy this

876150224221343744

TSA
06-18-2017, 05:08 PM
since youre a seth abramson fan you should enjoy this

876150224221343744

According to Louise Mensch Seth Abramson is a Russian troll.

Who's more credible of the two?

Adam Lambert
06-18-2017, 05:09 PM
According to Louise Mensch Seth Abramson is a Russian troll.

Who's more credible of the two?

i dont know, i dont really follow either of them.

but you obviously think abramson is credible, so what do you think of that thread?

TSA
06-18-2017, 06:00 PM
i dont know, i dont really follow either of them.

but you obviously think abramson is credible, so what do you think of that thread?

Link to me saying he's credible?

Adam Lambert
06-18-2017, 06:25 PM
Link to me saying he's credible?

:lol

:cry i posted a conspiracy tweet by him but i didnt say he was credible :cry

so basically youre admitting you just throw all of the shit you can find against the wall

TSA
06-18-2017, 06:31 PM
:lol

:cry i posted a conspiracy tweet by him but i didnt say he was credible :cry

so basically youre admitting you just throw all of the shit you can find against the wall

These are djohn2oo8 's sources I'm not vouching for anyone. I'm just showing the ridiculousness of it all.

boutons_deux
06-18-2017, 06:42 PM
How Michael Flynn’s Disdain for Limits Led to a Legal Quagmire

In the summer of 2014, after repeatedly clashing with other Obama administration officials over his management of the Defense Intelligence Agency — and what he saw as his unheeded warnings about the rising power of Islamic militants — Mr. Flynn was fired

his foray into consulting has become a legal and political quagmire, driven by the same disdain for boundaries that once propelled his rise in the military.

His business ties are now the subject of a broad inquiry by a special counsel investigating Russian interference in the 2016 election and possible collusion with Trump associates.

That investigation now includes work Mr. Flynn did for Russian clients (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/16/us/politics/michael-flynn-russia-paid-trip.html) and for a Turkish businessman (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/10/us/politics/michael-flynn-turkey.html) with ties to that country’s president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

But Mr. Flynn also became entangled with controversial clients.

One company that paid him, OSY Technologies, is part of a cyberweapons company whose software has been used to hack Mexican activists and an opposition leader in the Middle East.

Another, a Boston company selling a technology to replace lie detectors, is accused by its former chief scientist of marketing a counterfeit version of his technology to foreign clients.

Dozens of interviews and a review of public documents suggest that Mr. Flynn’s business was as scattershot as it was ambitious — and that there were few opportunities he would pass up.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/18/us/politics/michael-flynn-intel-group-trump.html

Thread
06-18-2017, 07:01 PM
How Michael Flynn’s Disdain for Limits Led to a Legal Quagmire

In the summer of 2014, after repeatedly clashing with other Obama administration officials over his management of the Defense Intelligence Agency — and what he saw as his unheeded warnings about the rising power of Islamic militants — Mr. Flynn was fired

his foray into consulting has become a legal and political quagmire, driven by the same disdain for boundaries that once propelled his rise in the military.

His business ties are now the subject of a broad inquiry by a special counsel investigating Russian interference in the 2016 election and possible collusion with Trump associates.

That investigation now includes work Mr. Flynn did for Russian clients (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/16/us/politics/michael-flynn-russia-paid-trip.html) and for a Turkish businessman (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/10/us/politics/michael-flynn-turkey.html) with ties to that country’s president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

But Mr. Flynn also became entangled with controversial clients.

One company that paid him, OSY Technologies, is part of a cyberweapons company whose software has been used to hack Mexican activists and an opposition leader in the Middle East.

Another, a Boston company selling a technology to replace lie detectors, is accused by its former chief scientist of marketing a counterfeit version of his technology to foreign clients.

Dozens of interviews and a review of public documents suggest that Mr. Flynn’s business was as scattershot as it was ambitious — and that there were few opportunities he would pass up.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/18/us/politics/michael-flynn-intel-group-trump.html




WITCH HUNT

Adam Lambert
06-18-2017, 09:22 PM
These are djohn2oo8 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14870) 's sources I'm not vouching for anyone. I'm just showing the ridiculousness of it all.

i agree its pretty god damn ridiculous


Mueller may have to recuse himself :rollin

875854393278705664

djohn2oo8
06-19-2017, 07:17 AM
876761686161666050
Oh look. Eastern District of Virginia grand jury.

djohn2oo8
06-19-2017, 07:19 AM
876631317487779840

djohn2oo8
06-19-2017, 07:36 AM
876779291257839617
:lmao this fucking idiot not knowing he isn't legally allowed to delete tweets as President.

pgardn
06-19-2017, 07:57 AM
876779291257839617
:lmao this fucking idiot not knowing he isn't legally allowed to delete tweets as President.

I did not know this either.

Whats the penalty?

boutons_deux
06-19-2017, 08:01 AM
https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2017-02-01/donald-trumps-tweets-are-now-presidential-records

Reck
06-19-2017, 08:07 AM
I think that is a very dumb rule.

I can understand his official POTUS account but his personal one? That's ridiculous.

pgardn
06-19-2017, 08:16 AM
https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2017-02-01/donald-trumps-tweets-are-now-presidential-records

Well I think it's safe to say Donald will thoroughly test this one.

boutons_deux
06-19-2017, 08:51 AM
Trump’s Lawyer Drops An Ominous Threat About Firing The Special Counsel Investigating Russia

Trump's lawyer, Jay Sekulow invoked

Trump's Article 1 powers under the Constitution to justify the President's firing of James Comey, which suggests that

Trump believes that he could use the same path to fire special counsel Robert Mueller.

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/06/18/trumps-lawyer-drops-ominous-threat-firing-special-counsel-investigating-russia.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

djohn2oo8
06-19-2017, 09:52 AM
876799150846816256
:lmao "accidentally"

djohn2oo8
06-19-2017, 09:53 AM
I think that is a very dumb rule.

I can understand his official POTUS account but his personal one? That's ridiculous.

He is President. Doesn't matter. He is in an official capacity.

ducks
06-19-2017, 10:19 AM
Adam Schiff Admits There’s No ‘Proof’ Of Trump-Russia Collusion [VIDEO]



http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/18/adam-schiff-admits-theres-no-proof-of-trump-russia-collusion-video/

baseline bum
06-19-2017, 10:42 AM
^ LOL Cucker Tarlson's website

boutons_deux
06-19-2017, 11:54 AM
The Trump team’s spin about the Russia probe sinks deeper into absurdity

two other important pieces of spin Sekulow offered:

Sekulow renewed the suggestion that Trump fired the FBI director at the recommendation of the deputy attorney general.

Trump reached his decision through a “collaborative process” in which Trump considered Rosenstein’s recommendation

This is absurd, because as we already know, Trump has confirmed on national television (http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/11/politics/trump-james-comey-nbc/index.html)that he was going to fire Comey regardless of Rosenstein’s recommendation and that his motive was rooted in unhappiness (https://www.vox.com/2017/5/11/15628276/trump-comey-fired-russia) with Comey’s handling of the Russia probe. But, more to the point, the fact that Sekulow is going here — again — means scrutiny will intensify on the meeting that Trump held (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/06/15/trump-is-now-under-investigation-and-he-has-no-one-to-blame-but-himself/?utm_term=.98f5ac592c54) with Rosenstein and Attorney General Jeff Sessions just before firing Comey.

Sekulow deliberately narrowed the scope of the Trump conduct that’s at issue.

complaining (http://www.foxnews.com/transcript/2017/06/18/jay-sekulow-on-reports-bob-mueller-has-widened-investigation.html) that Trump is “being investigated for taking the action that the attorney general and deputy attorney general recommended him to take by the agency who recommended the termination.”

This notion, which reprises a complaint Trump himself voiced on Twitter (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/875701471999864833), buffoonishly contradicts the suggestion that Trump isn’t under investigation, but put that aside for now. Sekulow is basically narrowing the question to one over whether Trump is being (or whether he should be) investigated for obstruction over the isolated act of firing Comey.

deliberately excludes all of the other Trump conduct that is at issue.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/06/19/the-trump-teams-spin-about-the-russia-probe-sinks-deeper-into-absurdity/?utm_term=.a0e6c096227b&wpisrc=nl_most-draw7&wpmm=1

Trash's tapes? :lol Suck Low says Trash will "address" the tapes this week. :lol

Thread
06-19-2017, 11:56 AM
Trash's tapes? :lol Suck Low says Trash will "address" the tapes this week. :lol




He's workin' ya's like a $3 whore.

muhahahahahahahaha!!!

FuzzyLumpkins
06-19-2017, 12:15 PM
He's workin' ya's like a $3 whore.

muhahahahahahahaha!!!

Umm, you're the one that bought his shit and has been eating it for a year at this point.

Thread
06-19-2017, 12:55 PM
Umm, you're the one that bought his shit and has been eating it for a year at this point.

Been the best year of me life.

Let us proceed...

RandomGuy
06-19-2017, 01:04 PM
Mueller may have to recuse himself :rollin

875854393278705664
RandomGuy you're the self proclaimed conflict of interest specialist what's your take?

Depends on the construction of "personal relationship".

Comey isn't the one being investigated.

Hard to tell from a tweet, without researching.

RandomGuy
06-19-2017, 01:07 PM
However, the requirements that would be necessary to even be nominated mean that there are very few people who could even do the job. While not being an expert on the specific qualifications, I would venture you’d need someone who fits the following at a bare minimum:
•Someone who understands Constitutional law
•Someone who understands criminal law
•Someone with an impeccable reputation for fairness, honesty and competence to run an investigation.
•Someone that can get along with the various members of Congress since ultimately he will require their buy-in/assistance with whatever results come out of the investigation, and will require assistance as the investigation goes on. Finesse with the political aspect of the job is required, otherwise it could derail the investigation or cast doubt on the results.
•Someone who understands the nuts and bolts of investigating, government regulations/codes/procedures that might apply and possibly a knowledge of how to prosecute criminal cases against prominent government officials.

Not any lawyer in DC could do this job. The above would pretty much limit candidates to people who have either worked with or for the DOJ or the FBI or CIA.

There would be very few people with the reputation, experience/credentials, and the credibility to fill the job. The only people you could even get buy-in for would be people who have actually spent time in government at a high level. And those people with that background would know other prominent people in government.

Mueller in particular appears to fit all of the above. Republicans and Democrats appear to trust his capabilities and his ability to run an investigation without any hiccups.

Frankly, Mueller would have to present to the Congress and ultimately to the public an iron clad case with no holes in it. Whatever conclusions he comes to will be heavily scrutinized both by Congress and by the public and the media, especially if his findings are damning to Trump and result in some kind of Congressional action against him. The stakes are just too high for the case to be anything but airtight for or against Trump. His friendship with Comey will not save a bad case or enhance a good one.

Seems to sum it up for me.

A flaw, but not a significant one. The problem with holding such, is that the pool of potential special counsel people is so small.

AaronY
06-19-2017, 01:08 PM
Been the best year of me life.

Let us proceed...
So you're an old white trash guy with an admittedly broken dick and vicariously living through Trump in your twilight years is the best you've ever been able to do in life?

RandomGuy
06-19-2017, 01:10 PM
i dont see how there's a conflict of interest if comey isnt the subject of the investigation.

the result of the investigation or potential charges are completely inconsequential as to comey. he doesn't stand to benefit from it one way or the other.

i'd have to sift through case law on what constitutes a conflict on interests in this scenario to be certain, and i dont have a ton of time. my gut says no. if you have to recuse yourself because you have a conflict with any tangentially related party to an investigation, then how the fuck can people in government ever be investigated without a conflict somewhere?

how can anybody in the FBI investigate if comey was the director of the FBI :lol...

Seems I am not alone. +1

RandomGuy
06-19-2017, 01:18 PM
You just posed this question in the last few days. You've dodged multiple questions of mine for weeks. Quid pro quo my ass.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=266387&page=212&p=9049563&viewfull=1#post9049563

I asked mine first.

In response to my question, you have simply asked a slew of questions in response.

I can't monitor 100% of your posts to follow along, sorry.

I can, however, hold your feet to the fire when you are being evasive and intellectually dishonest, which you do all the time.

If it makes you feel better, pick one you want answered.

Otherwise I am going to hammer this home.


Senate overwhelmingly votes to impose new sanctions on Russia over election meddling

97-2

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/14/senat...-meddling.html

My question remains, and this is a really good way to falsify my theory. Be happy to admit he isn't compromised, if some evidence supports that. Everything he has done thus far is consistent with compromised and/or some level of collusion. Any actions against Russia would put that to rest. The more he ignores this, the thinner your denials will be, and the stronger the case gets.

What steps has the Trump administration undertaken to hold Russia to account for this?



[doesn't answer, asks a question instead]

[enormous picture with the word "DODGE" redacted]
Let's try this again.

What steps has the Trump administration undertaken to hold Russia to account for this?


[doesn't answer, asks a question instead]

Hmm. I didn't think my question was that hard.

It is almost as if you don't want to, or can't answer it, and this is a recurring pattern in our interactions. Instead of dealing with something that you might not like directly, you dodge and deflect. It usually takes about 3-5 times of me asking a direct question to get an answer.

You would do well to think about why that is. Here is something you might find helpful.

https://designmatrix.wordpress.com/2010/11/14/ten-signs-of-intellectual-honesty-2/

10. Be willing to publicly acknowledge when a point or criticism is good. If someone is unable or unwilling to admit when their opponent raises a good point or makes a good criticism, it demonstrates an unwillingness to participate in the give-and-take that characterizes an honest exchange.

So, let's try one more time, so we can get to something we can agree with. A good debate has to establish facts, and lay ground work, and that can't be done if basic reality can't be agreed on.

What steps has the Trump administration undertaken to hold Russia to account for this?

RandomGuy
06-19-2017, 01:20 PM
repressive regime


who hasn't killed anybody?

RandomGuy
06-19-2017, 01:21 PM
dangerous crackpot, they disrespect us all the time


couldn't we be friends instead?

RandomGuy
06-19-2017, 01:22 PM
terrorist government

we can work together for peace

RandomGuy
06-19-2017, 01:24 PM
very bad


...

RandomGuy
06-19-2017, 01:27 PM
if the US is attacked, all Japan would do is "sit home and watch Sony television".


[Putins]'s doing a great job

RandomGuy
06-19-2017, 01:28 PM
"People don't realize Canada has been really rough with the United States," Trump said before signing an executive order on an agriculture task force on Tuesday." They've outsmarted our politicians for years."



"I respect Putin and Russians but cannot believe our leader (Obama) allows them to get away with so much...Hats off to the Russians."

RandomGuy
06-19-2017, 01:29 PM
Trump has had harsher words for fucking Canada, than Russia.

Let that sink in. Take all the time you need.

RandomGuy
06-19-2017, 02:20 PM
Russian diplomat condemns US for downing Syrian fighter jet




...

djohn2oo8
06-19-2017, 06:06 PM
876913605781979137

TSA
06-19-2017, 06:47 PM
Most transparent administration ever :rollin


Judicial Watch: Obama NSC Advisor Susan Rice’s Unmasking Material is at Obama Library

JUNE 19, 2017

Records Sought by Judicial Watch May Remain Closed to the Public for Five Years

(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch today announced that the National Security Council (NSC) on May 23, 2017, informed it by letter that the materials regarding the unmasking by Obama National Security Advisor Susan Rice of “the identities of any U.S. citizens associated with the Trump presidential campaign or transition team” have been removed to the Obama Library.

The NSC will not fulfill an April 4 Judicial Watch request for records regarding information relating to people “who were identified pursuant to intelligence collection activities.”

The agency also informed Judicial Watch that it would not turn over communications with any Intelligence Community member or agency concerning the alleged Russian involvement in the 2016 presidential election; the hacking of DNC computers; or the suspected communications between Russia and Trump campaign/transition officials. Specifically, the NSC told Judicial Watch:

Documents from the Obama administration have been transferred to the Barack Obama Presidential Library. You may send your request to the Obama Library. However, you should be aware that under the Presidential Records Act, Presidential records remain closed to the public for five years after an administration has left office.

Judicial Watch’s Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) April 4 request sought:

1.) Any and all requests for information, analyses, summaries, assessments, transcripts, or similar records submitted to any Intelligence Community member agency or any official, employee, or representative thereof by former National Security Advisor Susan Rice regarding, concerning, or related to the following:

Any actual or suspected effort by the Russian government or any individual acting on behalf of the Russian government to influence or otherwise interfere with the 2016 presidential election.
The alleged hacking of computer systems utilized by the Democratic National Committee and/or the Clinton presidential campaign.
Any actual or suspected communication between any member of the Trump presidential campaign or transition team and any official or employee of the Russian government or any individual acting on behalf of the Russian government.
The identities of U.S. citizens associated with the Trump presidential campaign or transition team who were identified pursuant to intelligence collection activities.
2.) Any and all records or responses received by former National Security Advisor Susan Rice and/or any member, employee, staff member, or representative of the National Security Council in response to any request described in part 1 of this request.

3.) Any and all records of communication between any official, employee, or representative of the Department of any Intelligence Community member agency and former National Security Advisor Susan Rice and/or any member, employee, staff member, or representative of the National Security Council regarding, concerning, or related to any request described in Part 1 of this request.

The time frame for this request was January 1, 2016, to the April 4, 2017.

While acknowledging in its FOIA request that “we are cognizant of the finding by the Court of Appeals … that [the NSC] “does not exercise sufficiently independent authority to be an ‘agency’ for purposes of the Freedom of Information Act,” Judicial Watch argued:

The records sought in this request pertain to actions by the former National Security Advisor that demonstrate a much higher degree of independent authority than was contemplated by the court; specifically, the issuance of directives to the Intelligence Community related to the handling of classified national security information…

The recent revelations of the role of Susan Rice in the unmasking the names of U.S. citizens identified in the course of intelligence collection activities and the potential that her actions contributed to the unauthorized disclosure of classified national security information are matters of great public interest.

Judicial Watch has filed six FOIA lawsuits related to the surveillance, unmasking, and illegal leaking targeting President Trump and his associates (see here, here, here, here, here and here).

“Prosecutors, Congress, and the public will want to know when the National Security Council shipped off the records about potential intelligence abuses by the Susan Rice and others in the Obama White House to the memory hole of the Obama Presidential Library,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “We are considering our legal options but we hope that the Special Counsel and Congress also consider their options and get these records.”

http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-obama-nsc-advisor-susan-rices-unmasking-material-obama-library/

clambake
06-19-2017, 06:58 PM
bad ass

boutons_deux
06-19-2017, 07:26 PM
Democratic lawmakers press Flynn on Middle East trips

Democratic lawmakers investigating fired national security adviser Michael Flynn's security clearance said Monday

they could not find the hotel Flynn said he stayed at during a 2015 trip to Saudi Arabia or :lol

any record of a conference he reported attending. :lol

In a letter to companies for which Flynn worked, U.S. Representatives Elijah Cummings and Eliot Engel requested documents related to Flynn's work in Saudi Arabia, Russia and other countries. They said

Flynn had not accurately reported his foreign travels and contacts in a 2016 application to renew his security clearance.

While Flynn disclosed an October 2015 trip to Saudi Arabia, Cummings and Engel said Flynn omitted key details and said they could not identify any conference he may have attended or find the hotel he reported staying at during the trip.

The two lawmakers said they were most

troubled by the lack of any Flynn record identifying "even a single foreign government official he had contact with in the seven years prior to submitting his security clearance application." :lol

Cummings and Engel also cited a recent Newsweek report which said Flynn took a trip to the Middle East in the summer of 2015 in pursuit of a joint U.S.-Russian venture to develop nuclear facilities, in a deal to be financed by Saudi Arabia.

"If this press report is accurate,

General Flynn's failure to report this trip and any contacts with foreign government officials about this Saudi-Russian nuclear proposal

appears to be a potential violation" of a law against making false statements to federal officials,

the letter said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-flynn-idUSKBN19A2VX?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Reuters%2FPoliticsNews+%28Reu ters+Politics+News%29

Flynn is the Little Dutch Boy with his dick stuck in the dyke holding back the flood of Trash + entourage corruption.

DarrinS
06-19-2017, 08:29 PM
I'm on pins and needles. :lmao

djohn2oo8
06-20-2017, 07:32 AM
877136936535818240

boutons_deux
06-20-2017, 07:35 AM
Flynn is Trash's Alexander Butterfield

RandomGuy
06-20-2017, 08:50 AM
Most transparent administration ever :rollin


Judicial Watch: Obama NSC Advisor Susan Rice’s Unmasking Material is at Obama Library

JUNE 19, 2017

Records Sought by Judicial Watch May Remain Closed to the Public for Five Years

(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch today announced that the National Security Council (NSC) on May 23, 2017, informed it by letter that the materials regarding the unmasking by Obama National Security Advisor Susan Rice of “the identities of any U.S. citizens associated with the Trump presidential campaign or transition team” have been removed to the Obama Library.

The NSC will not fulfill an April 4 Judicial Watch request for records regarding information relating to people “who were identified pursuant to intelligence collection activities.”

The agency also informed Judicial Watch that it would not turn over communications with any Intelligence Community member or agency concerning the alleged Russian involvement in the 2016 presidential election; the hacking of DNC computers; or the suspected communications between Russia and Trump campaign/transition officials. Specifically, the NSC told Judicial Watch:

Documents from the Obama administration have been transferred to the Barack Obama Presidential Library. You may send your request to the Obama Library. However, you should be aware that under the Presidential Records Act, Presidential records remain closed to the public for five years after an administration has left office.

Judicial Watch’s Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) April 4 request sought:

1.) Any and all requests for information, analyses, summaries, assessments, transcripts, or similar records submitted to any Intelligence Community member agency or any official, employee, or representative thereof by former National Security Advisor Susan Rice regarding, concerning, or related to the following:

Any actual or suspected effort by the Russian government or any individual acting on behalf of the Russian government to influence or otherwise interfere with the 2016 presidential election.
The alleged hacking of computer systems utilized by the Democratic National Committee and/or the Clinton presidential campaign.
Any actual or suspected communication between any member of the Trump presidential campaign or transition team and any official or employee of the Russian government or any individual acting on behalf of the Russian government.
The identities of U.S. citizens associated with the Trump presidential campaign or transition team who were identified pursuant to intelligence collection activities.
2.) Any and all records or responses received by former National Security Advisor Susan Rice and/or any member, employee, staff member, or representative of the National Security Council in response to any request described in part 1 of this request.

3.) Any and all records of communication between any official, employee, or representative of the Department of any Intelligence Community member agency and former National Security Advisor Susan Rice and/or any member, employee, staff member, or representative of the National Security Council regarding, concerning, or related to any request described in Part 1 of this request.

The time frame for this request was January 1, 2016, to the April 4, 2017.

While acknowledging in its FOIA request that “we are cognizant of the finding by the Court of Appeals … that [the NSC] “does not exercise sufficiently independent authority to be an ‘agency’ for purposes of the Freedom of Information Act,” Judicial Watch argued:

The records sought in this request pertain to actions by the former National Security Advisor that demonstrate a much higher degree of independent authority than was contemplated by the court; specifically, the issuance of directives to the Intelligence Community related to the handling of classified national security information…

The recent revelations of the role of Susan Rice in the unmasking the names of U.S. citizens identified in the course of intelligence collection activities and the potential that her actions contributed to the unauthorized disclosure of classified national security information are matters of great public interest.

Judicial Watch has filed six FOIA lawsuits related to the surveillance, unmasking, and illegal leaking targeting President Trump and his associates (see here, here, here, here, here and here).

“Prosecutors, Congress, and the public will want to know when the National Security Council shipped off the records about potential intelligence abuses by the Susan Rice and others in the Obama White House to the memory hole of the Obama Presidential Library,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “We are considering our legal options but we hope that the Special Counsel and Congress also consider their options and get these records.”

http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-obama-nsc-advisor-susan-rices-unmasking-material-obama-library/

Obama has horrible with transparency. He failed on that pledge almost as soon as he took office and realized the practicality of the pledge. A bit like Trump with ... everything.

Obama was also horrible about prosecuting whistleblowers.

He did, however release his fucking taxes.

RandomGuy
06-20-2017, 08:51 AM
I'm on pins and needles. :lmao


We will shoot down your planes in Syria if they cross a line.


...

Thread
06-20-2017, 08:54 AM
He did, however release his fucking taxes.

That was his choice. I don't want to see their taxes. I don't anyone to see mine.

TSA
06-20-2017, 10:00 AM
Obama has horrible with transparency. He failed on that pledge almost as soon as he took office and realized the practicality of the pledge. A bit like Trump with ... everything.

Obama was also horrible about prosecuting whistleblowers.

He did, however release his fucking taxes.

Why do you think the Obama administration would move materials regarding the unmasking by Obama National Security Advisor Susan Rice of “the identities of any U.S. citizens associated with the Trump presidential campaign or transition team” to the Obama Library?

RandomGuy
06-20-2017, 10:02 AM
Why do you think the Obama administration would move materials regarding the unmasking by Obama National Security Advisor Susan Rice of “the identities of any U.S. citizens associated with the Trump presidential campaign or transition team” to the Obama Library?

Why do you think the Trump administration has been silent on the Russian election attack?

RandomGuy
06-20-2017, 10:07 AM
repressive regime

who hasn't killed anybody?
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dangerous crackpot, they disrespect us all the time

couldn't we be friends instead?

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terrorist government

we can work together for peace

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if the US is attacked, all Japan would do is "sit home and watch Sony television".

[Putins]'s doing a great job

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"People don't realize Canada has been really rough with the United States," Trump said before signing an executive order on an agriculture task force on Tuesday." They've outsmarted our politicians for years."


"I respect Putin and Russians but cannot believe our leader (Obama) allows them to get away with so much...Hats off to the Russians."

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Russia threatens to shoot down American warplanes in Syria

...

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Mexico's totally corrupt gov't looks horrible

[Putins]'s doing a great job

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Anybody see a pattern yet?

TSA
06-20-2017, 10:14 AM
Why do you think the Trump administration has been silent on the Russian election attack?

Maybe they are aware many parts are fabricated and the rest is blown out of proportion? The only thing that has actually been 100% confirmed is that Russia hired shitposters to push out memes and fake stories during the election.

Moving on, why do you think the Obama administration would move materials regarding the unmasking by Obama National Security Advisor Susan Rice of “the identities of any U.S. citizens associated with the Trump presidential campaign or transition team” to the Obama Library?

TSA
06-20-2017, 10:17 AM
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Anybody see a pattern yet?

Yes, you sound like John McCain

RandomGuy
06-20-2017, 10:24 AM
The only thing that has actually been 100% confirmed is that Russia hired shitposters?


Russian agents hacked US voting system manufacturer before US election – report



Russian hackers breached voting systems in 39 US states


"We were all kind of hoping that the election hacking was at the cognitive level: propaganda, doxing, influence operations. But this is proof that they were actually closer to the tactical, technical level," says Kenneth Geers, an ambassador to NATO's Cyber Center who has long followed Russian hacking campaigns. “They were closer to the guts, to the operating system of our democracy, than we knew.”

Minimizing their efforts, because your guy won the Whitehouse.

Wow.

Just wow. That is some serious party over country bullshit.

RandomGuy
06-20-2017, 10:24 AM
Maybe they are aware many parts are fabricated and the rest is blown out of proportion? The only thing that has actually been 100% confirmed is that Russia hired shitposters to push out memes and fake stories during the election.

Moving on, why do you think the Obama administration would move materials regarding the unmasking by Obama National Security Advisor Susan Rice of “the identities of any U.S. citizens associated with the Trump presidential campaign or transition team” to the Obama Library?

Trump president, not Obama.

RandomGuy
06-20-2017, 10:26 AM
You just posed this question in the last few days. You've dodged multiple questions of mine for weeks. Quid pro quo my ass.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=266387&page=212&p=9049563&viewfull=1#post9049563

I asked mine first.

In response to my question, you have simply asked a slew of questions in response.

I can't monitor 100% of your posts to follow along, sorry.

I can, however, hold your feet to the fire when you are being evasive and intellectually dishonest, which you do all the time.

If it makes you feel better, pick one you want answered.

Otherwise I am going to hammer this home.


Senate overwhelmingly votes to impose new sanctions on Russia over election meddling

97-2

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/14/senat...-meddling.html

My question remains, and this is a really good way to falsify my theory. Be happy to admit he isn't compromised, if some evidence supports that. Everything he has done thus far is consistent with compromised and/or some level of collusion. Any actions against Russia would put that to rest. The more he ignores this, the thinner your denials will be, and the stronger the case gets.

What steps has the Trump administration undertaken to hold Russia to account for this?



[doesn't answer, asks a question instead]

[enormous picture with the word "DODGE" redacted]
Let's try this again.

What steps has the Trump administration undertaken to hold Russia to account for this?


[doesn't answer, asks a question instead]

Hmm. I didn't think my question was that hard.

It is almost as if you don't want to, or can't answer it, and this is a recurring pattern in our interactions. Instead of dealing with something that you might not like directly, you dodge and deflect. It usually takes about 3-5 times of me asking a direct question to get an answer.

You would do well to think about why that is. Here is something you might find helpful.

https://designmatrix.wordpress.com/2010/11/14/ten-signs-of-intellectual-honesty-2/

10. Be willing to publicly acknowledge when a point or criticism is good. If someone is unable or unwilling to admit when their opponent raises a good point or makes a good criticism, it demonstrates an unwillingness to participate in the give-and-take that characterizes an honest exchange.

So, let's try one more time, so we can get to something we can agree with. A good debate has to establish facts, and lay ground work, and that can't be done if basic reality can't be agreed on.

What steps has the Trump administration undertaken to hold Russia to account for this?


The answer to my easily answered question is nothing. That is what TSA doesn't want to admit.

RandomGuy
06-20-2017, 10:29 AM
Moving on, why do you think the Obama administration would move materials regarding the unmasking by Obama National Security Advisor Susan Rice of “the identities of any U.S. citizens associated with the Trump presidential campaign or transition team” to the Obama Library?

Maybe their archivists decided that it would be better catalogued there.

Moving on, why do you think Russia isn't such a priority to Trump, when he criticizes literally everyone else at the drop of a hat?

TSA
06-20-2017, 10:29 AM
This is a meltdown of epic proportions :rollin

RandomGuy
06-20-2017, 10:32 AM
THE NSA CONFIRMS IT: RUSSIA HACKED FRENCH ELECTION ‘INFRASTRUCTURE’
https://www.wired.com/2017/05/nsa-director-confirms-russia-hacked-french-election-infrastructure/


Maybe TSA thinks the Democrats did this too? :lmao

RandomGuy
06-20-2017, 10:33 AM
I am getting my pee pee spanked, and want to deflect from how badly

It's ok. You did it to yourself, really.

TSA
06-20-2017, 10:41 AM
It's ok. You did it to yourself, really.

Trust me I'll survive. Not sure if you'll be able to though, your fall from grace after the election has been something to witness.

TSA
06-20-2017, 10:43 AM
Maybe their archivists decided that it would be better catalogued there.

Why the sarcasm and intellectual dishonesty? It is almost as if you don't want to, or can't answer it, and this is a recurring pattern in our interactions. Instead of dealing with something that you might not like directly, you dodge and deflect. It usually takes about 3-5 times of me asking a direct question to get an answer.

Why do you think the Obama administration would move materials regarding the unmasking by Obama National Security Advisor Susan Rice of “the identities of any U.S. citizens associated with the Trump presidential campaign or transition team” to the Obama Library?

clambake
06-20-2017, 10:48 AM
Why do you think the Obama administration would move materials regarding the unmasking by Obama National Security Advisor Susan Rice of “the identities of any U.S. citizens associated with the Trump presidential campaign or transition team” to the Obama Library?

because he's a bad ass that will own trump forever.

Pavlov
06-20-2017, 11:03 AM
Moving onTSA is perfect American stupid boy for Mother Russia. We can do anything and he still only talk pizza and the blacks.

Kim Jong-il
06-20-2017, 12:15 PM
TSA is perfect American stupid boy for Mother Russia. We can do anything and he still only talk pizza and the blacks.
:lmao

TSA
06-20-2017, 01:41 PM
THE NSA CONFIRMS IT: RUSSIA HACKED FRENCH ELECTION ‘INFRASTRUCTURE’
https://www.wired.com/2017/05/nsa-director-confirms-russia-hacked-french-election-infrastructure/


Maybe TSA thinks the Democrats did this too? :lmaoThe super sophisticated and highly skilled Russian hacking team once again is super sloppy and left their fingerprints all over the hack. The Wikileaks vault 7 dump really throws a wrench in your attempts to assign attribution.

"And the trove of Macron's party emails published as torrent files Friday included metadata in Cyrillic, suggesting that they had been edited on a computer running software with Russian-language configurations. That metadata even included the name Roshka Georgiy Petrovich, reportedly an employee of the Russian intelligence contractor Eureka.

But at the time of the Trend Micro report, the Macron campaign denied it had been breached. And for some cybersecurity analysts, the Russian metadata included in the leak was so blatant that it raised suspicions that someone—perhaps another country or hacker group—was intending to create a "fall guy" for the attack."

RandomGuy
06-20-2017, 01:48 PM
Why the sarcasm and intellectual dishonesty? It is almost as if you don't want to, or can't answer it, and this is a recurring pattern in our interactions. Instead of dealing with something that you might not like directly, you dodge and deflect. It usually takes about 3-5 times of me asking a direct question to get an answer.

Why do you think the Obama administration would move materials regarding the unmasking by Obama National Security Advisor Susan Rice of “the identities of any U.S. citizens associated with the Trump presidential campaign or transition team” to the Obama Library?

Let's get something on the table.

Not answering it. You chose not to answer mine. That shit goes both ways.

I really, truly don't give a shit about this made up outrage you are trying to push to deflect from Trumps many, many, flaws. It is a little sad.

The thing about bullshit conspiracy theories is that they are so easy to poke holes in.

Bullshit conspiracy theorists also tend to overwhelmingly be sophists, who make bad arguments, distort things, and never, ever, admit the faults in their arguments.

That is how you detect bullshit.

When you repeatedly dodge direct questions, you get to sit in the same box as Cosmored, with good reason. Congratulations TSA, you get to sit in the corner with the guy who thinks the moon landings were faked. You two have a nice chat.

RandomGuy
06-20-2017, 01:52 PM
The super sophisticated and highly skilled Russian hacking team once again is super sloppy and left their fingerprints all over the hack. The Wikileaks vault 7 dump really throws a wrench in your attempts to assign attribution.

"And the trove of Macron's party emails published as torrent files Friday included metadata in Cyrillic, suggesting that they had been edited on a computer running software with Russian-language configurations. That metadata even included the name Roshka Georgiy Petrovich, reportedly an employee of the Russian intelligence contractor Eureka.

But at the time of the Trend Micro report, the Macron campaign denied it had been breached. And for some cybersecurity analysts, the Russian metadata included in the leak was so blatant that it raised suspicions that someone—perhaps another country or hacker group—was intending to create a "fall guy" for the attack."

Poor Russia being framed. :cry

"some analysts"... :lol

FuzzyLumpkins
06-20-2017, 01:53 PM
TSA ignores the Russian election interference for the same reason that Trump and Breitbart does: mindless partisanship. At least Trump is partisan to himself. What's TSA's reasoning?

Adam Lambert
06-20-2017, 01:56 PM
TSA ignores the Russian election interference for the same reason that Trump and Breitbart does: mindless partisanship. At least Trump is partisan to himself. What's TSA's reasoning?

tsa and putin both want everyone in the us to have an arsenal of guns

FuzzyLumpkins
06-20-2017, 01:56 PM
Poor Russia being framed. :cry

"some analysts"... :lol

If it wasn't a series of incidences and not just one and if it was not using the same network and proxies that the Russians have used then that might be plausible.

Presenting it as a singular event that someone tried to spoof is disingenuous to say the least.

FuzzyLumpkins
06-20-2017, 02:00 PM
tsa and putin both want everyone in the us to have an arsenal of guns

:lol don't take muh guns away. The Donald saved us from the Kenyan who was going to steal our guns.