Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

[TSA]

If you aren't worried, why are you here?

To laugh at all of you thinking Trump colluded with Russia to steal the election and is going to be impeached.

[dabom]

More real than pizzagate. :lol

[djohn2oo8]

He is very obviously trying to get the news buried.

Yeah trying extra hard but to no avail. He lives in the thread now which is funny to me because I pay no attention to any of his threads. And he spends more time in here than his own threads. :lol

[djohn2oo8]

To laugh at all of you thinking Trump colluded with Russia to steal the election and is going to be impeached.

You can laugh but you would be wrong again, Susan. Why should anybody listen to you after your Susan Rice fiasco?

[Chris]

:lmao

Windows 95? Dude, my grandma has better meme skillz. Even as a troll, you suck. Up your game man.

Shut up faggot.

[djohn2oo8]

Shut up faggot.

:lmao Christian boy losing it.

[TSA]

Wow. You've lost it.

Really, really lost it.

It's almost as if you know Trump is going down in flames and don't care anymore.

You're just too blind to see what's going on right now.

It's Trump/NSA vs FBI/CIA

One team has access to EVERYTHING---pick a winner.

[djohn2oo8]

You're just too blind to see what's going on right now.

It's Trump/NSA vs FBI/CIA

One team has access to EVERYTHING---pick a winner.

Susan Rice laughs at your dead ass predictions.

[Chris]

:lmao Christian boy losing it.

djohn desperate for attention :lol

[Pavlov]

You should really read your posts out load before you hit reply. I never said Flynn was targeting Mueller's team, that would be Trump ally Mike Rogers and the NSA. How do you think Strzok's texts were found? Flynn hasn't even testified in court yet, that is when the real fun begins.Yeah, you're bringing up Rogers a lot suddenly.

Who told you he's a Trump ally and that he's targeting Mueller by getting Flynn to commit and be convicted of a felony?

Give us a link. Educate us.

[djohn2oo8]

djohn desperate for attention :lol

Your only comeback being shut up faggot lol

[Chris]

^Passive aggressive Pavlov trying to indirectly elevate himself above the coversation (again)

[Chris]

Your only comeback being shut up faggot lol

He's not worth more than that tbh.

[RandomGuy]

Yeah, you're bringing up Rogers a lot suddenly.

Who told you he's a Trump ally and that he's targeting Mueller by getting Flynn to commit and be convicted of a felony?

Give us a link. Educate us.


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[djohn2oo8]

He's not worth more than that tbh.

I though Christians quoting the bible don't say things like that?

[Chris]

I though Christians quoting the bible don't say things like that?

No that's just you stereotyping another group of people. It's a Liberal thing.

[djohn2oo8]

No that's just you stereotyping another group of people. It's a Liberal thing.

So Christians go around saying shut up faggot? Now is that very Christ like Chris?

[djohn2oo8]

http://www.internetmonk.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/joel_blink.gif

Here ya go Chris.

[TSA]

Yeah, you're bringing up Rogers a lot suddenly.

Who told you he's a Trump ally and that he's targeting Mueller by getting Flynn to commit and be convicted of a felony?

Give us a link. Educate us.

I brought up Rogers a lot when he went unannounced and met with Trump in November. Clapper and Carter begged Obama to fire him for that visit. Which Obama appointed intelligence heads are still serving Trump?

[boutons_deux]

So Trash and his mafiya with many connections to Pootin for years have been, are still lying and/or forgetting repeatedly about it all because they're all innocent.

Trash absolutely "red lines" his business finances and history because he knows there's nothing in there that could possible interest Mueller's team.

C O V E R U P

[djohn2oo8]

TSA has no idea what the hell he is talking about. Susan Rice laughs at him.

[Pavlov]

I brought up Rogers a lot when he went unannounced and met with Trump in November. Clapper and Carter begged Obama to fire him for that visit. Which Obama appointed intelligence heads are still serving Trump?Link to your claims?

[Chris]

:cry muh Susan Rice :cry

[TSA]

Link to your claims?

You can search the forum for my posts and easily google the second.

[djohn2oo8]

843842007650975744
But yeah Roger's is a Trump ally :lmao

[djohn2oo8]

You can search the forum for my posts and easily google the second.

Where is the link TSA?Are you scared to post the link?

[TSA]

Here are Flynn's hand picked DIA spooks that still hold retain their TS/SCI clearance which allows them to view raw SIGINT. Who has access to all of the raw SIGINT? Mike Rogers


White House National Security Advisor Announces NSC Senior Staff Appointments

(Washington, D.C.) – President Trump’s National Security Advisor Michael T. Flynn today announced the following additions to the National Security Council senior staff.

“I’m incredibly excited about working with this talented group,” Flynn said. “With their diverse backgrounds in in business, law, technology, government, the military and the Intelligence community, they bring a wealth of experience and fresh ideas to the table. K.T. McFarland, Keith Kellogg know they’ll make great contributions to this Administration and to their country.”

David Cattler will serve as Deputy Assistant to the President for Regional Affairs. In this capacity, he will oversee and coordinate the NSC staff’s regional senior directors and global security policy development and evaluation. Prior to his service at the NSC, Cattler served for more than 20 years in leadership positions in the Intelligence Community and Department of Defense. He most recently served as the National Intelligence Manager for the Near East and he earlier held national and defense intelligence leadership roles and served as the Principal Deputy National Intelligence Officer for Military Issues within the National Intelligence Council, the Joint Staff’s Deputy Director for Intelligence, and the director of the Defense Intelligence Agency’s counterterrorism center. A 1993 graduate of the United States Naval Academy, he was commissioned as a surface warfare officer and served in operations, combat systems, and engineering positions in two Aegis cruisers. He was awarded the Joint Distinguished Civilian Service Medal for service in the Joint Staff. He also holds a Master of Policy Management degree from Georgetown University.

John Eisenberg will serve as Deputy Assistant to the President, NSC Legal Advisor, and Deputy Counsel to the President for National Security Affairs. From 2006-2009, Eisenberg served as a senior national-security official at the Department of Justice. There, both as a Deputy Assistant Attorney General in the Office of Legal Counsel and as an Associate Deputy Attorney General, Eisenberg advised the Intelligence Community, the Department of Defense, the National Security Council, and the Counsel to the President on complex national-security matters. During his time at the Justice Department, Eisenberg won several awards, including the Attorney General’s Award for Excellence in Furthering the Interests of U.S. National Security. As a partner at Kirkland & Ellis, LLP, Eisenberg’s practice focused on white-collar, complex civil litigation, and data-security issues. He received a B.S. in mathematics from Stanford University and a J.D. from Yale Law School.

Kevin Harrington will serve as Deputy Assistant to the President for Strategic Planning. Before joining the NSC staff, Harrington was managing director and head of research for Thiel Macro LLC, a San Francisco-based global macro hedge fund. He also worked for its predecessor fund, Clarium Capital Management, and was a coauthor of the PayPal business plan. He consulted for the Center for International Security and Cooperation (CISAC), a Stanford foreign policy think tank, on the security of fissile materials and the protection of critical national infrastructure, and was a doctoral candidate in physics at Stanford University, where he was an NSF Fellow. A Goldwater Scholar, Harrington conducted mathematics research for the Department of Defense, and graduated summa cum laude with a B.S. in mathematics and physics from the University of Idaho.

Kenneth I. Juster will serve as Deputy Assistant to the President for International Economic Affairs. He will coordinate the Administration’s international economic policy and integrate it with national security and foreign policy. He will also be the President’s representative and lead U.S. negotiator (“Sherpa”) for the annual G-7, G-20, and APEC Summits. Juster has previously served in the U.S. Government as Under Secretary of Commerce (2001-2005), Counselor (Acting) of the Department of State (1992-1993), Deputy and Senior Advisor to Deputy Secretary of State Lawrence S. Eagleburger (1989-1992), and Law Clerk to Judge James L. Oakes of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit (1980-1981). In the private sector, Juster has been a Partner and Managing Director at the global investment firm Warburg Pincus (2010-2017), Executive Vice President of salesforce.com (2005-2010), and Senior Partner at the law firm Arnold & Porter (1981-1989, 1993-2001). Juster has also served as Chairman of the Advisory Committee of Harvard’s Weatherhead Center for International Affairs, Vice Chairman of the Board of the Asia Foundation, and a member of the Trilateral Commission, the Council on Foreign Relations, and the American Academy of Diplomacy. Among his honors, Juster is the recipient of the Secretary of Commerce’s William C. Redfield Award and the Secretary of State’s Distinguished Service Award. Juster holds an A.B. in Government from Harvard College, a Master’s Degree in Public Policy from Harvard’s Kennedy School, and a J.D. from the Harvard Law School.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/02/02/white-house-national-security-advisor-announces-nsc-senior-staff-0


These are the true PATRIOTS behind the scene.

[DarrinS]

Link to your claims?

Not my claim, but

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/306894-report-clapper-carter-recommended-obama-fire-nsa-head

[Pavlov]

You can search the forum for my posts and easily google the second.OK I did.

Their recommendation was made before Rogers visited Trump.


The recommendation, delivered to the White House last month, was made by Defense Secretary Ashton B. Carter and Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper Jr., according to several U.S. officials familiar with the matter....

In a move apparently unprecedented for a military officer, Rogers, without notifying superiors, traveled to New York to meet with Trump on Thursday at Trump Tower.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/pentagon-and-intelligence-community-chiefs-have-urged-obama-to-remove-the-head-of-the-nsa/2016/11/19/44de6ea6-adff-11e6-977a-1030f822fc35_story.html?utm_term=.597683b391e3

Why do you lie?

[Pavlov]

Here are Flynn's hand picked DIA spooks that still hold retain their TS/SCI clearance which allows them to view raw SIGINT. Who has access to all of the raw SIGINT? Mike Rogers


White House National Security Advisor Announces NSC Senior Staff Appointments

(Washington, D.C.) – President Trump’s National Security Advisor Michael T. Flynn today announced the following additions to the National Security Council senior staff.

“I’m incredibly excited about working with this talented group,” Flynn said. “With their diverse backgrounds in in business, law, technology, government, the military and the Intelligence community, they bring a wealth of experience and fresh ideas to the table. K.T. McFarland, Keith Kellogg know they’ll make great contributions to this Administration and to their country.”

David Cattler will serve as Deputy Assistant to the President for Regional Affairs. In this capacity, he will oversee and coordinate the NSC staff’s regional senior directors and global security policy development and evaluation. Prior to his service at the NSC, Cattler served for more than 20 years in leadership positions in the Intelligence Community and Department of Defense. He most recently served as the National Intelligence Manager for the Near East and he earlier held national and defense intelligence leadership roles and served as the Principal Deputy National Intelligence Officer for Military Issues within the National Intelligence Council, the Joint Staff’s Deputy Director for Intelligence, and the director of the Defense Intelligence Agency’s counterterrorism center. A 1993 graduate of the United States Naval Academy, he was commissioned as a surface warfare officer and served in operations, combat systems, and engineering positions in two Aegis cruisers. He was awarded the Joint Distinguished Civilian Service Medal for service in the Joint Staff. He also holds a Master of Policy Management degree from Georgetown University.

John Eisenberg will serve as Deputy Assistant to the President, NSC Legal Advisor, and Deputy Counsel to the President for National Security Affairs. From 2006-2009, Eisenberg served as a senior national-security official at the Department of Justice. There, both as a Deputy Assistant Attorney General in the Office of Legal Counsel and as an Associate Deputy Attorney General, Eisenberg advised the Intelligence Community, the Department of Defense, the National Security Council, and the Counsel to the President on complex national-security matters. During his time at the Justice Department, Eisenberg won several awards, including the Attorney General’s Award for Excellence in Furthering the Interests of U.S. National Security. As a partner at Kirkland & Ellis, LLP, Eisenberg’s practice focused on white-collar, complex civil litigation, and data-security issues. He received a B.S. in mathematics from Stanford University and a J.D. from Yale Law School.

Kevin Harrington will serve as Deputy Assistant to the President for Strategic Planning. Before joining the NSC staff, Harrington was managing director and head of research for Thiel Macro LLC, a San Francisco-based global macro hedge fund. He also worked for its predecessor fund, Clarium Capital Management, and was a coauthor of the PayPal business plan. He consulted for the Center for International Security and Cooperation (CISAC), a Stanford foreign policy think tank, on the security of fissile materials and the protection of critical national infrastructure, and was a doctoral candidate in physics at Stanford University, where he was an NSF Fellow. A Goldwater Scholar, Harrington conducted mathematics research for the Department of Defense, and graduated summa cum laude with a B.S. in mathematics and physics from the University of Idaho.

Kenneth I. Juster will serve as Deputy Assistant to the President for International Economic Affairs. He will coordinate the Administration’s international economic policy and integrate it with national security and foreign policy. He will also be the President’s representative and lead U.S. negotiator (“Sherpa”) for the annual G-7, G-20, and APEC Summits. Juster has previously served in the U.S. Government as Under Secretary of Commerce (2001-2005), Counselor (Acting) of the Department of State (1992-1993), Deputy and Senior Advisor to Deputy Secretary of State Lawrence S. Eagleburger (1989-1992), and Law Clerk to Judge James L. Oakes of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit (1980-1981). In the private sector, Juster has been a Partner and Managing Director at the global investment firm Warburg Pincus (2010-2017), Executive Vice President of salesforce.com (2005-2010), and Senior Partner at the law firm Arnold & Porter (1981-1989, 1993-2001). Juster has also served as Chairman of the Advisory Committee of Harvard’s Weatherhead Center for International Affairs, Vice Chairman of the Board of the Asia Foundation, and a member of the Trilateral Commission, the Council on Foreign Relations, and the American Academy of Diplomacy. Among his honors, Juster is the recipient of the Secretary of Commerce’s William C. Redfield Award and the Secretary of State’s Distinguished Service Award. Juster holds an A.B. in Government from Harvard College, a Master’s Degree in Public Policy from Harvard’s Kennedy School, and a J.D. from the Harvard Law School.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/02/02/white-house-national-security-advisor-announces-nsc-senior-staff-0


These are the true PATRIOTS behind the scene.:lol Cattler barely lasted a month.

Do you ever verify anything, TSA?

[Chris]

Go get em Tucker!


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[Reck]

Shut up faggot.

Damn, that one stung, eh?

Win95 meme. :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Go get em Tucker!


https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/24312389_1029215650552478_3934781286262001996_n.pn g?oh=941f7dc5c68e7faa782021de3c6dc602&oe=5A9407D5

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[Pavlov]

Go get em Tucker!


https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/24312389_1029215650552478_3934781286262001996_n.pn g?oh=941f7dc5c68e7faa782021de3c6dc602&oe=5A9407D5Secret police start when Trump considers using Erik Prince to form a private spy force for himself.

[boutons_deux]

Secret police start when Trump considers using Erik Prince to form a private spy force for himself.

Trash pushing Sessions to "lock her up", and commanding Comey to "drop it", no problem.

Carlson is just another reeking piece of right wing hate media shit

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Meanwhile in reality, Trump has been trying to influence both congressional inquiries. That is actually a sign of totalitarianism.

[Chris]

From Fox News: Allegations of anti-Trump bias inside Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team are reviving Republican claims of a “double standard” at the Justice Department, with GOP critics saying Hillary Clinton enjoyed comparatively “special” treatment when she was investigated over her personal email use as Secretary of State. The new revelations about members of Mueller’s team only fueled those concerns. It emerged over the weekend that FBI official Peter Strzok was removed from the Mueller probe over the summer after allegedly sending anti-Trump texts to an FBI lawyer with whom he was romantically involved. Then on Tuesday, conservative advocacy group Judicial Watch released an email showing a Mueller deputy praised outgoing acting Attorney General Sally Yates after she was fired in January by Trump for refusing to defend his controversial travel ban.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/06/republicans-allege-doj-double-standard-as-mueller-probe-takes-heat.html

[Chris]

Meanwhile in reality, Trump has been trying to influence both congressional inquiries. That is actually a sign of totalitarianism.

Is he literally Hitler now?

[djohn2oo8]

Chris, I hope you dedicate your whole days to this shit. I love it!

[Chris]

Chris, I hope you dedicate your whole days to this shit. I love it!


djohn desperate for attention :lol

[djohn2oo8]

You have spent way more time in this thread today only to prove nothing.

[djohn2oo8]

Got some breaking news for the Pizzagate crew....When multiple people are caught lying under oath, it is no longer considered a witch hunt

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/walkingdead/images/3/3c/Wooow.gif/revision/latest?cb=20140616062730

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Is he literally Hitler now?

Hitler burned down the Reichstag because the Diet acted against him. It's a matter of degree obviously but the parallel is obvious.

What Trump is doing is more akin to the behavior of Banana Republic despots like Noriega.

[Reck]

:lol People bothering to explain intricate shit to Chris just so he can respond with a meme.

[TSA]

:lol Cattler barely lasted a month.

Do you ever verify anything, TSA?

No shit I posted it a few days ago you should try and keep up. He was reassigned when McMaster came in and still maintains his TS/SCI clearance, as do the others. Flynn didn’t create two new deputy positions for nothing.

[Pavlov]

No shit I posted it a few days ago you should try and keep up. He was reassigned when McMaster came in and still maintains his TS/SCI clearance, as do the others. Flynn didn’t create two new deputy positions for nothing.All part of his master plan to commit a felony by lying to the FBI and lay a trap for the prosecuting Special Counsel who had not yet been appointed.

Seriously, where did you get this theory?

[TSA]

All part of his master plan to commit a felony by lying to the FBI and lay a trap for the prosecuting Special Counsel who had not yet been appointed.

Seriously, where did you get this theory?

Once again, you should really read your posts out loud before you hit reply. I never said Flynn was targeting Mueller's team, that would be Trump ally Mike Rogers and the NSA. Flynn created two new deputy positions on the National Security Council senior staff before he resigned. Flynn was aware he was under surveillance and had been unmasked and illegally leaked to the WaPo. Flynn set up these two new positions knowing they’d have TS/SCI clearance and could therefore read raw SIGINT provided by Rogers’ NSA. The goal was to find the leakers inside the IC. Strzok was a bonus casualty.

[Pavlov]

Once again, you should really read your posts out loud before you hit reply. I never said Flynn was targeting Mueller's team, that would be Trump ally Mike Rogers and the NSA. Flynn created two new deputy positions on the National Security Council senior staff before he resigned. Flynn was aware he was under surveillance and had been unmasked and illegally leaked to the WaPo. Flynn set up these two new positions knowing they’d have TS/SCI clearance and could therefore read raw SIGINT provided by Rogers’ NSA. The goal was to find the leakers inside the IC. Strzok was a bonus casualty.So Flynn's intentional commission of a felony was to do what again?

Just post your source for this conspiracy theory. Save us both time.

[djohn2oo8]

Yeah TSA not knowing what he is talking about. As usual.

[Reck]

Once again, you should really read your posts out loud before you hit reply. I never said Flynn was targeting Mueller's team





The trap has been set and Mueller's team is now the target, along with every other corrupt agent in the FBI, CIA, and congress.

Please punch yourself in the face.

[djohn2oo8]

Please punch yourself in the face.

:lmao haha wow

[Pavlov]

I brought up Rogers a lot when he went unannounced and met with Trump in November. Clapper and Carter begged Obama to fire him for that visit. Which Obama appointed intelligence heads are still serving Trump?Hey, you never told me why you lied about this.

Why did you lie about this?

[djohn2oo8]

TSA why did you lie?

[Reck]

Guys, he's too busy punching himself in the face to answer.

[TSA]

So Flynn's intentional commission of a felony was to do what again?

Just post your source for this conspiracy theory. Save us both time.

Clear his NDA and testify on “any and all crimes”. Remember, “he’s got a story to tell”

[benefactor]

Please punch yourself in the face.
http://31.media.tumblr.com/f4396a0c07e897f542c1df457208600e/tumblr_narz1tUVq11spm17no1_400.gif

[Pavlov]

Clear his NDA and testify on “any and all crimes”. Remember, “he’s got a story to tell”Just post your source for this conspiracy theory. Save us both time.

You're not making any sense.

And tell me why you lied.

[djohn2oo8]

So TSA has got down why Flynn lied. Now how about Jr and Sessions?

[Pavlov]

So TSA has got down why Flynn lied. Now how about Jr and Sessions?Or himself.

[TSA]

Please punch yourself in the face.

That isn’t Flynn targeting Mueller’s team dipshit, that would be the NSA. Or do you think Strzok just walked up to his bosses and showed him his text messages? :lol

[Pavlov]

Why did you lie, TSA?

[Reck]

That isn’t Flynn targeting Mueller’s team dipshit, that would be the NSA. Or do you think Strzok just walked up to his bosses and showed him his text messages? :lol

You were talking about Flynn all along, dumbass.

You dont get to go oh yeah it was MIKE ROGERS!


The question you dodged made my theory clear.

Flynn being charged with the felony allows his NDA from his previous security clearance/position to be lifted and now in court and he can testify on any and all know crimes.


So he planned to commit and be convicted of a felony all along.

This is your theory.

:lol


Yup.

He already knew there were transcripts of his calls to Kislyak as they'd been leaked by the WaPo. He lied on purpose to Strzok during his interview and now has his NDA lifted and will be able to talk about any and all crimes.

The trap has been set and Mueller's team is now the target, along with every other corrupt agent in the FBI, CIA, and congress.

You were talking about Flynn.

[Pavlov]

You were talking about Flynn all along, dumbass.

You dont get to go oh yeah it was MIKE ROGERS!







You were talking about Flynn.I don't know why TSA just doesn't point us to the site where he got this theory.

Or why he lied.

[Trill Clinton]

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[DarrinS]

Was there any definitive reporting on the subpoena of bank records?

[TSA]

Hey, you never told me why you lied about this.

Why did you lie about this?

I don’t believe the story from the CIA mouthpiece WaPo and it’s unnamed officials.

Rogers visits Trump on the Nov 17th. WaPo article released the article on Nov 19th saying they actually wanted him fired in Oct. :lol suuuuuure. And Clapper is a habitual liar anyways so even easier for me to believe their timeline was bullshit.

[djohn2oo8]

Funny how TSA calls Clapper a liar after he was quoting him saying no collusion :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Was there any definitive reporting on the subpoena of bank records?

Yes.

[Pavlov]

I don’t believe the story from the CIA mouthpiece WaPo and it’s unnamed officials.

Rogers visits Trump on the Nov 17th. WaPo article released the article on Nov 19th saying they actually wanted him fired in Oct. :lol suuuuuure. And Clapper is a habitual liar anyways so even easier for me to believe their timeline was bullshit.And the source for your theory is -- your personal bias. :lmao

Seriously, post the source of your Mike and Mike theory. You're doing a shitty job of parroting it.

[Reck]

Funny how TSA calls Clapper a liar after he was quoting him saying no collusion :lol

Also thinks a news paper just comes up with news on the fly.

Roger visist Trump the 17th of November

The Washington Post posts an article the 19th.

:wow

[Pavlov]

Was there any definitive reporting on the subpoena of bank records?Mueller did subpoena Deutsche Bank -- for what is not known.

[TSA]

You were talking about Flynn all along, dumbass.

You dont get to go oh yeah it was MIKE ROGERS!







You were talking about Flynn.

Repeating yourself isn’t going to make you any less wrong about it. Rogers, Flynn, and his DIA spooks were after whoever leaked Flynn’s name to the WaPo. Strzok was targeted after. How do you think his text messages were revealed?

[Pavlov]

Repeating yourself isn’t going to make you any less wrong about it. Rogers, Flynn, and his DIA spooks were after whoever leaked Flynn’s name to the WaPo. Strzok was targeted after. How do you think his text messages were revealed?So the NSA is spying on an FBI agent jes cuz?

This is a great theory, TSA. Post the source -- I want to read more.

[TSA]

I don't know why TSA just doesn't point us to the site where he got this theory.

Or why he lied.

You quoted it in this very thread. Refer to your ST notebook, page 87.

[DarrinS]

Funny how there’s outrage about Don Jr attempting, but failing, to get dirt on Hillary from a Russian lawyer.

Meanwhile, Hillary campaign pays for fake dirt (supplied by anonymous Russians) on Trump. Meh

[djohn2oo8]

TSA won't post his source...hmmm

[djohn2oo8]

Funny how there’s outrage about Don Jr attempting, but failing, to get dirt on Hillary from a Russian lawyer.

Meanwhile, Hillary campaign pays for fake dirt (supplied by anonymous Russians) on Trump. Meh

You are some kind of stupid. You do realize Trump Jr even attempting to get such information is illegal right? No matter if he failed and do we know for sure that he did? Intent was there and lifting sanctions was the promise.

[Pavlov]

You quoted it in this very thread. Refer to your ST notebook, page 87.Oh, look -- TSA is playing games again.

Just give the link.

[Pavlov]

Funny how there’s outrage about Don Jr attempting, but failing, to get dirt on Hillary from a Russian lawyer.

Meanwhile, Hillary campaign pays for fake dirt (supplied by anonymous Russians) on Trump. MehFunny how you think they are the exact same thing.

[DarrinS]

Mueller did subpoena Deutsche Bank -- for what is not known.

I see this correction from Bloomberg, so I wasn’t sure.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-05/deutsche-bank-said-to-be-subpoenaed-by-mueller

[djohn2oo8]

Funny how you think they are the exact same thing.

Darrin getting his Fredo Corleone on.

[Pavlov]

I see this correction from Bloomberg, so I wasn’t sure.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-05/deutsche-bank-said-to-be-subpoenaed-by-muellerhttps://global.handelsblatt.com/finance/yes-deutsche-bank-did-get-a-subpoena-from-mueller-861828

[DarrinS]

Funny how you think they are the exact same thing.

They are different. One was attempted collusion.

[Pavlov]

They are different. One was attempted collusion.Funny how you think the other is actual collusion.

[djohn2oo8]

Funny how you think the other is actual collusion.

:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

Darrin just shut up you look even more like a fucking idiot

[TSA]

So the NSA is spying on an FBI agent jes cuz?

This is a great theory, TSA. Post the source -- I want to read more.

This same agent headed the Clinton email investigation. This same agent interviewed Mills and Abedin and knew they lied about the server and did nothing. This same agent changed the language of Comey’s statement from grossly negligent to extremely careless. This same agent headed the Trump/Russia investigation. This same agent was one of Christopher Steele’s handlers. This same agent was removed from Mueller’s team.

But yeah, the NSA was spying on him jes cuz.

[TSA]

Oh, look -- TSA is playing games again.

Just give the link.

I’m not digging through pages of this thread because you can’t find something you quoted.

[djohn2oo8]

TSA scared.

[DarrinS]

Funny how you think the other is actual collusion.

I know, it’s “oppo research”, which all campaigns do. And they typically create dossiers that lead to FISA warrants and spying on political opponents. All normal stuff.

[Pavlov]

This same agent headed the Clinton email investigation. This same agent interviewed Mills and Abedin and knew they lied about the server and did nothing. This same agent changed the language of Comey’s statement from grossly negligent to extremely careless. This same agent headed the Trump/Russia investigation. This same agent was one of Christopher Steele’s handlers. This same agent was removed from Mueller’s team.

But yeah, the NSA was spying on him jes cuz.So was he suspected of a crime? Was there a warrant for all this surveillance? Or jes cuz.

Seriously, you're going to be in the weeds quickly -- just link your source.

[djohn2oo8]

I know, it’s “oppo research”, which all campaigns do. And they typically create dossiers that lead to FISA warrants and spying on political opponents. All normal stuff.

Like I told your dumbass yesterday. Manafort and Page both had FISA warrants granted on them before the dossier was compiled. You really have no comprehension of anything.

[DarrinS]

Like I told your dumbass yesterday. Manafort and Page both had FISA warrants granted on them before the dossier was compiled. You really have no comprehension of anything.


Lol, getting mad

[Pavlov]

I know, it’s “oppo research”, which all campaigns do. And they typically create dossiers that lead to FISA warrants and spying on political opponents. All normal stuff.If enough information was corroborated and just added to the reasons they already had for wanting a FISA warrant, why would they not want to get a FISA warrant?

[djohn2oo8]

Lol, getting mad

Not at all. You don't do research. A judge found probable cause certain people were acting as agents of a foreign power. So your dossier argument had no merit.

[djohn2oo8]

:rollin Trump/Russia truthers

:lol "The Dossier"

But that FISA warrant showing the Obama camp did spy on Trump and the Left laughed at Trump's claims, but he's being proven right, and just like the Christian genocide, the Leftist media wont report on it.

LOLosing to Trump on rigged elecrtions and conspiracy theories:lol:rollin

Damn look at this stupid motherfucker will ya

[Chucho]

Damn look at this stupid motherfucker will ya

LOL, still mad.

Still waiting. Getting all wet over some small potatoes.

[Chucho]

Leftist Chris still cant read a boxscore.:lol

[djohn2oo8]

LOL, still mad.

Still waiting. Getting all wet over some small potatoes.

How did that Obama wiretap claim workout? :rollin

[Chucho]

How did that Obama wiretap claim workout? :rollin

How'd that Harden 50 spot boxscore workout? :lmao

[djohn2oo8]

How'd that Harden 50 spot boxscore workout? :lmao
Can't pinpoint when Obama ordered the wiretap? :lol

[djohn2oo8]

"Obama spied and proved Trump right"

[Chucho]

Can't pinpoint when Obama ordered the wiretap? :lol

Mad about yesterday and running though pages and pages and pages, months ago to "get me". :lol

Box scores. :lmao
Rent free.:rollin

[djohn2oo8]

"Obama spied and proved Trump right"

[DarrinS]

This thread is the hill you’ve chosen to die on, John.

[djohn2oo8]

This thread is the hill you’ve chosen to die on, John.

Christ even your analogies are shitty.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:lol Darrin has done nothing but be wrong and try to deflect and he thinks that is the appropriate response. What a lack of self awareness.

[DarrinS]

Lol, searching for collusion for a year from a guy who never shuts the F up.

[djohn2oo8]

Lol, searching for collusion for a year from a guy who never shuts the F up.
And yet there's nobody more fake than Darrin who on one hand says let the chips fall where they may, and the next second calls it a witch hunt. You know Darrin, you haven't explained why multiple Trump associates have either been indicted or caught lying under oath. If there is no collusion, why lie?

[DarrinS]

Dude is borderline retarded, but his collusion skills...

[djohn2oo8]

Dude is borderline retarded, but his collusion skills...

You didn't answer the question.

[DarrinS]

You didn't answer the question.

Collusion is DOA you simpleton. They’re trying to build an obstruction case. Try to keep up.

[djohn2oo8]

Collusion is DOA you simpleton. They’re trying to build an obstruction case. Try to keep up.
Is that why stories keep breaking about Flynn noting sanctions would be torn up? Why are investigators interviewing the Russians in that Trump Jr meeting? You've been right about nothing.

[DarrinS]

And that Don Jr meeting remains a non-burger, but press treating like Watergate break in. :lol

[djohn2oo8]

And that Don Jr meeting remains a non-burger, but press treating like Watergate break in. :lol

That nothingburger meeting was illegal Darrin. Why would Trump Jr lie about it being about adoptions if it was a nothingburger? Fucking stupid piece of shit you are.

[djohn2oo8]

Why lie?

[Pavlov]

And that Don Jr meeting remains a non-burger, but press treating like Watergate break in. :lolThe break-in itself was pretty much a nothingburger tbh.

[DarrinS]

That nothingburger meeting was illegal Darrin. Why would Trump Jr lie about it being about adoptions if it was a nothingburger? Fucking stupid piece of shit you are.

Then they should arrest Don Jr. ASAP. :lol

[djohn2oo8]

The break-in itself was pretty much a nothingburger tbh.

:lol

[djohn2oo8]

Then they should arrest Don Jr. ASAP. :lol

You didn't answer why did Jr Lie?

[djohn2oo8]

Innocent people don't lie Darrin.

[DarrinS]

The break-in itself was pretty much a nothingburger tbh.

Burglary is at least a crime.

[Pavlov]

Burglary is at least a crime.Nixon certainly wasn't charged with it.

[djohn2oo8]

Burglary is at least a crime.

So is attempting to elicit stolen information from a foreign country.

[DarrinS]

So is attempting to elicit stolen information from a foreign country.

When did that happen?

[DarrinS]

Nixon certainly wasn't charged with it.

Correct

[djohn2oo8]

When did that happen?

When Jr went into the meeting looking for dirt on Hillary.

[DarrinS]

When Jr went into the meeting looking for dirt on Hillary.

What “stolen” information would that be?

[djohn2oo8]

What “stolen” information would that be?
Now we are getting somewhere. Any information Russians received through Wikileaks or Assange.

[Reck]

Funny how there’s outrage about Don Jr attempting, but failing, to get dirt on Hillary from a Russian lawyer.

Meanwhile, Hillary campaign pays for fake dirt (supplied by anonymous Russians) on Trump. Meh

:lol

The "well I was gonna rob him at gun point but he didn't have any money so I just left" card.

Is amazing how little you actually know and yet you shoot your mouth off.

:lol thinking Russians provided the dossier to Hillary.

[djohn2oo8]

:lol

The "well I was gonna rob him at gun point but he didn't have any money so I just left" card.

Is amazing how little you actually know and yet you shoot your mouth off.

:lol thinking Russians provided the dossier to Hillary.

Yeah. The Russians, who HATE Hillary, provided her the dossier.

[DarrinS]

Now we are getting somewhere. Any information Russians received through Wikileaks or Assange.

Is that what happened? :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Is that what happened? :lol

Yep. We also know that meeting was illegal and you have yet to say why Jr said it was about adoptions.

[DarrinS]

Yep. We also know that meeting was illegal and you have yet to say why Jr said it was about adoptions.

link?

[boutons_deux]

More Sessions style C O V E R U P

Following Don Jr. Testimony, Dem Rep Says He Has ‘Serious Case of Amnesia

one Democratic congresswoman said he has a “serious case of amnesia.”
Congresswoman Jackie Speier told CNN’s Erin Burnett that the

President’s son was “pretty non-responsive on a lot of issues that frankly you would have a recollection of, considering it was just a year ago.”

“You get the impression in listening to him,” she added, “that he didn’t spend much time talking to his father.”

Earlier tonight CNN reported (http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/06/politics/trump-jr-testimony-lawmakers-president-trump-tower-meeting/index.html) that Trump Jr declined to tell the committee what he and his father discussed regarding that infamous Trump Tower meeting:

Trump Jr. did not provide further details and

invoked attorney-client privilege because of the presence of attorneys :lol

during the exchange with his father, Schiff said…

Trump Jr. acknowledged to House investigators Wednesday that he spoke with senior White House aide Hope Hicks — and not his father — when first confronted with news reports about the Trump Tower meeting, saying they exchanged text messages, sources said.


Over on MSNBC in the previous hour, fellow House Intel Democrat Eric Swalwell said Trump Jr.

“refused to answer any questions about conversations he had with his father.”

https://www.mediaite.com/online/following-don-jr-testimony-dem-rep-says-he-has-serious-case-of-amnesia/

[djohn2oo8]

link?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-jr-statements-russia-lawyer-meeting-natalia-veselnitskaya-2017-7

[DarrinS]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-jr-statements-russia-lawyer-meeting-natalia-veselnitskaya-2017-7

Ad blocked. Can you quote me the parts where he asked for stolen information. Thanks

[djohn2oo8]

Ad blocked. Can you quote me the parts where he asked for stolen information. Thanks

The meeting was illegal. You have yet to say why he lied saying it was about adoptions.

[djohn2oo8]

Special counsel Robert Mueller and the House and Senate investigating committees continue to look into the Trump Tower meeting, according to multiple officials familiar with the probes.


:lmao "But they arent investigating collusion anymore"

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Tonite we have a special guest here on the Political Forum, DarrinS, who will be wishcasting like a dumbass.

[boutons_deux]

‘They literally own him’: Wall Street expert explains how Russian banks could use Trump’s debt as leverage

https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Vladimir-Putin-shaking-hands-with-Donald-Trump-MSNBC-screengrab.png

“A U.S. official with knowledge of Mueller’s probe said one reason for the subpoenas was to find out whether

Deutsche Bank may have sold some of Trump’s mortgage or other loans to Russian state development bank VEB or other Russian banks

that now are under U.S. and European Union sanctions.”

To explain the details, Melber brought on Bill Cohen, the Why Wall Street Matters author who has worked with three of the largest banks on Wall St.

“If this is true, if this Reuters report is true, that a Russian bank has bought Donald Trump’s debt, that is big news,” Cohen explained.

“That’s huge news,

because that gives a Russian bank leverage over Donald Trump. Direct leverage.”

“And then they literally own him,” Melber replied.

“Literally. Donald Trump owes a Russian bank, which has not been disclosed on any of his financial disclosure forms,” Cohen noted.

“We know Deutsche Bank is basically the only bank that will loan him money and now if they’re on-selling his debt to a Russian bank, that’s a stunning development,” Cohnen concluded.

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/they-literally-own-him-wall-street-expert-explains-how-russian-banks-could-use-trumps-debt-as-leverage/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/they-literally-own-him-wall-street-expert-explains-how-russian-banks-could-use-trumps-debt-as-leverage/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)

[boutons_deux]

Tell It To Clinton’s Dick, Lindsey Graham And Jeff Sessions!

https://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/frowny-sessions-n-graham.jpg

important new legal theories from the Republicans this week, starting with Donald Trump’s dumb lawyer John Dowd and his insistence that the president of the USA can’t actually obstruct justice. (https://wonkette.com/626570/trump-idiot-lawyer-john-dowd-pretty-sure-king-trump-doesnt-have-to-follow-laws)

The thinking goes like this: Donald Trump is the nation’s top law enforcement guy, so if Trump told James Comey not to look at the Trump campaign and transition staff’s contacts with Russia, then that’s just a law enforcer setting law enforcement priorities.

In 1999, Sessions said in an interview on C-Span,

I hope that he can rebut that and prove that did not happen. I hope he can show that he did not commit obstruction of justice and that he can complete his term. But there are serious allegations that that occurred.


Not a word about Clinton being immune there thanks to his being the nation’s top law enforcer
Sessions noted Clinton’s status as the nation’s top law enforcer. But in Sessions’s assessment at the time, that

didn’t make Clinton immune from obstructing justice; it made him even worse!

It has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt and to a moral certainty that President William Jefferson Clinton perjured himself before a federal grand jury and has persisted in a continuous pattern of lying and obstructing justice.

The chief law enforcement officer of the land, whose oath of office calls on him to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution, crossed the line and failed to defend and protect the law, and, in fact, attacked the law and the rights of a fellow citizen.


Lindsey Graham, who insisted that Michael Flynn’s guilty plea on a charge of lying to the FBI had no larger implications for the Trump/Russia investigation, since, Graham explained on “Face the Nation” this weekend,

“what Flynn lied about is not a crime.”

Graham didn’t try to say lying to the FBI wasn’t a crime, mind you, but the thing he lied about? No big:

I don’t think it’s wrong for a transition person to talk to a foreign government about change in policy. I don’t think the Logan Act is worth the paper it’s written on.


Now, before the election, that would be another matter, said Graham. Collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians would be very, very bad, he explained, but once Trump was elected — but not yet in office — it was probably just fine for Flynn to contact Russia to make plans for a beautiful future of peace and harmony and cooperation, also lifting sanctions, please, even if Barack Obama was technically still president.

Bill Clinton lied about something that wasn’t a crime, either, but that was serious business, which is why Graham pushed for Bill Clinton to be impeached in the House,

to prove that he was the candidate of Law And Order. At a town hall early in his reelection campaign, Graham said the point is all about asking the hard questions:

“It’s a time for the country as a whole to understand what went on here and where we’re going to go,” Mr. Graham said.

”What are the consequences of this case?

What do you do with the next Federal judge who has got wandering hands in the office

and someone’s got the courage to say, ‘No, you shouldn’t treat me that way,’ and he starts hiding evidence and getting others to lie for him —

what do we do with that case?”


Yes, Graham was talking about hypothetical sex-criming, not election-messing with a foreign government.

But now, he seems a little less worried about a president who’s hiding evidence and had people lying for him. Wonder why that might be?

https://wonkette.com/626649/tell-it-to-clintons-dick-lindsey-graham-and-jeff-sessions

[RandomGuy]

You're just too blind to see what's going on right now.

It's Trump/NSA vs FBI/CIA

One team has access to EVERYTHING---pick a winner.

I am also too blind to see they are putting mind control chemicals in chemtrails, to see how obvious it is that some invisible man in the sky is watching me masturbate, 9-11 was an inside job, etc.

I don't think you actually believe any of this. If you do, you are delusional.

Assuming you do think this is true:

Your delusions have failed, and failed consistently, to actually be comported by evidence and reality.

How much evidence do you need of that failure before you decide to abandon your delusion? What will change your mind?

[RandomGuy]

‘They literally own him’: Wall Street expert explains how Russian banks could use Trump’s debt as leverage

https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Vladimir-Putin-shaking-hands-with-Donald-Trump-MSNBC-screengrab.png

“A U.S. official with knowledge of Mueller’s probe said one reason for the subpoenas was to find out whether

Deutsche Bank may have sold some of Trump’s mortgage or other loans to Russian state development bank VEB or other Russian banks

that now are under U.S. and European Union sanctions.”

To explain the details, Melber brought on Bill Cohen, the Why Wall Street Matters author who has worked with three of the largest banks on Wall St.

“If this is true, if this Reuters report is true, that a Russian bank has bought Donald Trump’s debt, that is big news,” Cohen explained.

“That’s huge news,

because that gives a Russian bank leverage over Donald Trump. Direct leverage.”

“And then they literally own him,” Melber replied.

“Literally. Donald Trump owes a Russian bank, which has not been disclosed on any of his financial disclosure forms,” Cohen noted.

“We know Deutsche Bank is basically the only bank that will loan him money and now if they’re on-selling his debt to a Russian bank, that’s a stunning development,” Cohnen concluded.

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/they-literally-own-him-wall-street-expert-explains-how-russian-banks-could-use-trumps-debt-as-leverage/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/they-literally-own-him-wall-street-expert-explains-how-russian-banks-could-use-trumps-debt-as-leverage/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)



And there you go. This would do it.

Trump is not worth as much as he claims, and owing hundreds of millions of dollars to the Russian government would be the leverage that would explain how Trump has been compromised.

[RandomGuy]

I don't think people here think they tampered with votes. I don't bother reading all this horeshit though. They got Hillary's emails and posted them because Putin was mad when she interfered in his election and they used bots and paid operatives to post lies on social media. I guess some of the Trump people talked to Russians and Assange and thats on them for being stupid. Honestly, surprised they would do that. Of course Trump mentioning how much he loved wikileaks in about a thousand speeches was stupid too.

We agree this is a waste of time though Im a liberal and I hate this thread for that reason. Hillary lost mainly cause she was boring; her husband and Trump proved if you're a charismatics speaker you can overcome scandals. Better to go out and register people or do volunteering for democrats if you're upset instead people screeching autistically about Trump and Muh Russia over and over throughout the country. Also, crying wolf about this horseshit and blowing it out of proportion leads people to tune you out when something big does happen.

I generally agree Russia's efforts had little overall effect, but it wasn't for a lack of trying. The question is, whether we should put up with active efforts of an intelligence agency of a foreign government to attack the very idea of democracy itself. Western liberal democracy is under threat from authoritarian regimes. That is important.

Denying the scope or existence of that problem will not address it.

There is also the matter that the sitting president appears to be actively compromised by that same government.

But then, predicting what Trump will, or won't do is sort of a mugs game. He never fails to do the stupidest shit possible, just when you think he can't be dumber.

The thing about a good theory though, it that it both explains facts, and you can make testable predictions.

Fact 1:
Russia attempted to hack our electoral process through a multi-pronged attack.

Fact 2:
Donald "look how big my inauguration crowd was" Trump has done nothing but deny this even happened, and has gone so far as to take the extraordinary effort to delegitimize his own intelligence services when they something did happen. He has shown no willingness whatsoever to hold Russia to account for anything.

Fact 3:
Donald Trump has a pattern of criticizing anyone, and everyone at the drop of a hat. Allies, enemies, courts, free press, nothing has escaped his remarks and twitter feed, except for ONE/(two) thing(s), and that is Russia/Putin

Fact 4:
Russian efforts appeared designed to support Trump

Fact 5:
Trump directly called on Russia publicly to support his efforts to get elected.

Fact 6:
Donald Trump has gone out of his way to meet and talk with Putin privately in person, with no American witnesses. This is the only leader with which he has acted in this manner.

Fact 7:
Donald Trump, when forced to sign a bipartisan sanctions bill passed with a veto-proof majority of both houses of Congress, issued a signing statement saying most of it was unconstitutional, and that his administration would enforce it as little as possible.


Fact 8:
when Russia retaliated against sanctions by forcing the US embassy to cut staff, Trump thanked Putin for the action, making him look weak, something he has said one should never do, and is inconsistent with his past behavior in any other regard.

Theory:
Donald Trump has been compromised in some way. Either he directly owes them money, or they have evidence of some kind of him breaking the law or doing something he does not want others to know about.

This theory explains those facts, and is fully consistent with observed reality.

Prediction:
Donald Trump will take no action personally, nor will he criticize Russia or Putin in any way in regards to the Russian attack on our elections. He may allow his underlings to do some minor, inconsequential stuff, and if forced to do anything by Congress will drag his feet, if not outright attempt to veto any sanctions.


The way to falsify the theory:
1) Trump criticizes Putin/Russia (good)
2) Trump orders/takes action that materially harms Russian interests (definitive)

Bullshit conspiracy theories fail very often because either: they cannot be falsified, or they directly conflict with observed reality. This theory can be falsified, and does not conflict with what we know as fact.

Donald Trump is unpredictable except for Russia.

xylophone

[TSA]

Was wondering why there were no updates in this thread and then saw that Christopher Wray was testifying before the House Judiciary on the Russia investigation :lol

Dude is just shutting down Democrats left and right :lol

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[RandomGuy]

Was wondering why there were no updates in this thread and then saw that Christopher Wray was testifying before the House Judiciary on the Russia investigation :lol

Dude is just shutting down Democrats left and right :lol

Theory:
Donald Trump has been compromised in some way. Either he directly owes them money, or they have evidence of some kind of him breaking the law or doing something he does not want others to know about.

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This theory explains those facts, and is fully consistent with observed reality.

Prediction:
Donald Trump will take no action personally, nor will he criticize Russia or Putin in any way in regards to the Russian attack on our elections. He may allow his underlings to do some minor, inconsequential stuff, and if forced to do anything by Congress will drag his feet, if not outright attempt to veto any sanctions.


The way to falsify the theory:
1) Trump criticizes Putin/Russia (good)
2) Trump orders/takes action that materially harms Russian interests (definitive)

[DarrinS]

Theory:
Donald Trump has been compromised in some way. Either he directly owes them money, or they have evidence of some kind of him breaking the law or doing something he does not want others to know about.

And yet, fresh sanctions will be implemented in January.

[Kim Jong-il]

And yet, fresh sanctions will be implemented in January.
:lmao as if Trump has a fucking say in the matter

[DarrinS]

:lmao as if Trump has a fucking say in the matter

Yeah, it’s not like he signed it or anything.

[baseline bum]

Yeah, it’s not like he signed it or anything.

What the fuck does it matter if he signs it when the vote was 98-2 in the senate and 419-3 in the house? :lmao

[Kim Jong-il]

Yeah, it’s not like he signed it or anything.
:lmao as if refusing to sign it would change anything.

[Pavlov]

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TSAbot is back!

Why won't you name the source of your theory?

[Reck]

Darrins getting shit on per par. TSA melting down after he didn't get what he was looking for. :lol

[RandomGuy]

And yet, fresh sanctions will be implemented in January.

Didn't read the signing statements, did you?

Basically:

"these sanctions are unconstitutional, and the executive branch will drag its feet as much as possible". Written in such a way as to maximize wriggle room to ignore them as much as possible.

I would provide links, but we all know you won't read them.

[RandomGuy]

Yeah, it’s not like he signed it or anything.

Sanctions bill passed with veto-proof majorities. Vetoing it, and having that veto overridden would make him look weak, something he does not want to do.

Do you want the vote counts? Do you want statements by Trump saying that looking weak is bad? Do you understand what I posted here?

[RandomGuy]

What the fuck does it matter if he signs it when the vote was 98-2 in the senate and 419-3 in the house? :lmao

Maybe Darrin needs a link to the constitution.


2: Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States; If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such Reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the Bill, it shall be sent, together with the Objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds of that House, it shall become a Law.

Maybe he doesn't understand the math.

DarrinS, you do understand that 98-2 is more than two thirds right? So is 419-3.

https://www.online-calculator.com/

There is a link to an online calculator. You want to divide 98 by 100 to get the decimal. If it is greater than .67 (which is what you get when you divide 2 by 3 to find out what the decimal is for two thirds), then Congress can override the president's veto.

DarrinS, if you need help with decimals, let me know, and I can post a link to some basic math tutorial websites.

[boutons_deux]

Here's why Deutsche Bank may be such a big deal. (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/12/5/1721494/-Here-s-why-Deutsche-Bank-may-be-such-a-big-deal)

https://images.dailykos.com/images/477473/story_image/9aa0f10b0f9a99bae477e1621ea2cb81.jpg?1511810926

Stephanie Ruhle knows of what she speaks, in full self disclosure she stated that she worked for Deutsche Bank for 8 years.

She pointed out that after the Russian ruble collapse in 1998, most major banks flew the Russian coop, they wanted nothing more to do with the place.

Deutsche Bank stayed, and played heavily.

Stephanie also stated that the bank is less averse to taking a risk than some other major banks.

Deutsche Bank has been and still is a major player in Russia, and does business with other Russian banks.

What Ruhle thinks that Mueller may be looking for is this. Trump has $300M in outstanding loans with Deutsche Bank.

Deutsche bank regularly deals with Russian banks, including VEB, which is under EU and US sanctions.

Did Deutsche Bank, for either nefarious or completely innocent reasons transfer anhy of Trump's business debt over to any Russian bank, including banks currently under US sanctions?

But it does place Trump in jeopardy on two fronts.

The first, lesser one is this. Having a bank owned or controlled by a foreign government, in this case Russia holding paper on him could place him in violation of the emoluments clause of the US constitution. It is possible that he may be forced to liquidate any assets that the paper touches. But that's the least of his worries.

Much more importantly, if a Russian state owned bank holds a good chunk of Trump debt, he and or Jared Kushner are compromised.

The Trump campaign would not have to offer the Russian government a quid pro quo for their assistance in the election, the Russians already have it.

They could tell Trump, "We'll get you in. Once we do,

you either do as we say, or we'll call in your notes, and maybe be just careless enough about it so that the press learns of it."

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/12/5/1721494/-Here-s-why-Deutsche-Bank-may-be-such-a-big-deal

[monosylab1k]

Yeah, it’s not like he signed it or anything.

Haha, exactly! He should just rip it up in front of the cameras! Fuckin Russia conspiritards!

[djohn2oo8]

Haha, exactly! He should just rip it up in front of the cameras! Fuckin Russia conspiritards!

:lol

[boutons_deux]

https://images.dailykos.com/images/480889/story_image/1366ckCOMIC-spy-stories-for-dummies.png?1512571504

[Reck]

Time to throw Hope Hicks under the bus. :lol

[TSA]

TSAbot is back!

Why won't you name the source of your theory?

I enjoy your lazy, pathetic begging.

[Pavlov]

I enjoy your lazy, pathetic begging.What is the source of your theory?

Simple question.

Nothing fancy.

[TSA]

What is the source of your theory?

Simple question.

Nothing fancy.
If you really cared you’d stop being lazy and look through your own post history and find it. But no, you’ll just continue your pathetic begging.

[DarrinS]

The cartoon boutons posted actually shows the stupidity of the Russia collusion conspiracy. :lol

[Pavlov]

If you really cared you’d stop being lazy and look through your own post history and find it. But no, you’ll just continue your pathetic begging.I'll just ask you a simple question you are dodging for some reason. It's easier and you will definitely answer promptly and accurately as always.

What is the source of your theory?

[Reck]

The cartoon boutons posted actually shows the stupidity of the Russia collusion conspiracy. :lol

Explain.

I think the cartoon is faily straight forward in showing the naivete' and stupidity that is Trump and his minions.

[DarrinS]

Explain.

I think the cartoon is faily straight forward in showing the naivete' and stupidity that is Trump and his minions.

“Russia, if you’re listening...”

Exactly what someone would do who had Russian back channels. :lol

[Reck]

“Russia, if you’re listening...”

Exactly what someone would do who had Russian back channels. :lol

Poor Darrins is so lost.

:lol Thinking Trump is smart in any capacity.

Same guy who admitted to obstruction of justice twice. Once on TV and the second time not 4 days ago on twitter of all places. :lol Darrins

[Pavlov]

“Russia, if you’re listening...”

Exactly what someone would do who had Russian back channels. :lolA back channel like a secret adoption meeting?

[TSA]

I'll just ask you a simple question you are dodging for some reason. It's easier and you will definitely answer promptly and accurately as always.

What is the source of your theory?

So. Fucking. Lazy.

[Pavlov]

So. Fucking. Lazy.I don't want to get it wrong. It's much easier to just ask you since you have never dodged and questions and are not currently dodging this simple question I have asked you several times.

Maybe I just worded it wrong.

Are you having problems understanding my question to you?

[TSA]

Top DOJ official demoted amid probe of contacts with Trump dossier firm

EXCLUSIVE: A senior Justice Department official was demoted this week amid an ongoing investigation into his contacts with the opposition research firm responsible for the anti-Trump “dossier,” the department confirmed to Fox News.

Until Wednesday morning, Bruce G. Ohr held two titles at DOJ: associate deputy attorney general, a post that placed him four doors down from his boss, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein; and director of the Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Forces (OCDETF), a program described by the department as “the centerpiece of the attorney general’s drug strategy.”

Initially senior department officials could not provide the reason for Ohr’s demotion, but Fox News has learned that evidence collected by the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI), chaired by Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif., indicates that Ohr met during the 2016 campaign with Christopher Steele, the former British spy who authored the “dossier.”

Later, a Justice Department official told Fox News: "It is unusual for anyone to wear two hats as he has done recently. This person is going to go back to a single focus—director of our organized crime and drug enforcement unit. As you know, combating transnational criminal organizations and drug trafficking is a top priority for the attorney general."

Additionally, House investigators have determined that Ohr met shortly after the election with Glenn Simpson, the founder of Fusion GPS – the opposition research firm that hired Steele to compile the dossier with funds supplied by the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee. By that point, according to published reports, the dossier had been in the hands of the FBI, which exists under the aegis of DOJ, for some five months, and the surveillance on Carter Page, an adviser to the Trump campaign, had started more than two months prior.

Former FBI Director James Comey, testifying before the House in March, described the dossier as a compendium of “salacious and unverified” allegations against then-candidate Donald Trump and his associates. The Nunes panel has spent much of this year investigating whether DOJ, under then-Attorney General Loretta Lynch, used the dossier to justify a foreign surveillance warrant against Page.

The contacts between Ohr and Steele, and between Ohr and Simpson, have not been publicly disclosed nor shared with HPSCI staff.

The panel has issued numerous subpoenas for documents and witnesses related to the dossier but claims DOJ and FBI have “stonewalled,” an assertion that House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., seconded in a rare public statement in October.

While the agencies say they have cooperated extensively with Nunes and his team, including providing several hundred pages of classified documents relating to the dossier, it was only last weekend that DOJ and FBI agreed to make available to the committee for questioning Peter Strzok, the high-ranking FBI official who was disciplined in July for having sent-anti-Trump texts to a colleague while playing a decisive role in last year’s investigation into Mrs. Clinton’s private server.

Strzok was removed from the staff of Special Counsel Robert Mueller, who is probing allegations of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government, and demoted to a position on the FBI’s human resources division. The agencies’ decision to make Strzok available to House investigators came on the same day that The New York Times and The Washington Post disclosed the existence of the anti-Trump text messages, and Fox News disclosed that Strzok’s conduct in the Clinton case was under review by the FBI’s Office of Inspector General.

The demotion of Ohr thus marked the second time within a matter of months that the Justice Department and the FBI have disciplined for misconduct a senior official connected in some form or fashion to the Trump-Russia case.

According to congressional sources, Simpson and Ohr met sometime around Thanksgiving last year, when President-elect Trump was in the process of selecting his cabinet, and discussed over coffee the anti-Trump dossier, the Russia investigation and what Simpson considered the distressing development of Trump’s victory.

How exactly Simpson and Ohr came to know each other is still being investigated, but initial evidence collected by the House intelligence committee suggests that the two were placed in touch by Steele, a former FBI informant whose contacts with Ohr are said by senior DOJ officials to date back to 2006.

Nunes, who has instructed HPSCI staff to draft contempt-of-Congress citations against Rosenstein and FBI Director Christopher Wray – preparatory to a House vote on whether the citations should be enforced – issued a fresh subpoena on Thursday specifically covering Ohr and his files.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/07/top-doj-official-demoted-amid-probe-contacts-with-trump-dossier-firm.html

[TSA]

I don't want to get it wrong. It's much easier to just ask you since you have never dodged and questions and are not currently dodging this simple question I have asked you several times.

Maybe I just worded it wrong.

Are you having problems understanding my question to you?

No. You’re just fucking lazy.

[Pavlov]

No. You’re just fucking lazy.Oh, well just humor me and answer this simple question for the record then:

What is the source of your theory?

[RandomGuy]

The cartoon boutons posted actually shows the stupidity of the Russia collusion conspiracy. :lol

There is a reason that it is called "stupid Watergate". Those involved really are that dumb.

[Reck]

Top DOJ official demoted amid probe of contacts with Trump dossier firm

EXCLUSIVE: A senior Justice Department official was demoted this week amid an ongoing investigation into his contacts with the opposition research firm responsible for the anti-Trump “dossier,” the department confirmed to Fox News.

Until Wednesday morning, Bruce G. Ohr held two titles at DOJ: associate deputy attorney general, a post that placed him four doors down from his boss, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein; and director of the Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Forces (OCDETF), a program described by the department as “the centerpiece of the attorney general’s drug strategy.”

Initially senior department officials could not provide the reason for Ohr’s demotion, but Fox News has learned that evidence collected by the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI), chaired by Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif., indicates that Ohr met during the 2016 campaign with Christopher Steele, the former British spy who authored the “dossier.”

Later, a Justice Department official told Fox News: "It is unusual for anyone to wear two hats as he has done recently. This person is going to go back to a single focus—director of our organized crime and drug enforcement unit. As you know, combating transnational criminal organizations and drug trafficking is a top priority for the attorney general."

Additionally, House investigators have determined that Ohr met shortly after the election with Glenn Simpson, the founder of Fusion GPS – the opposition research firm that hired Steele to compile the dossier with funds supplied by the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee. By that point, according to published reports, the dossier had been in the hands of the FBI, which exists under the aegis of DOJ, for some five months, and the surveillance on Carter Page, an adviser to the Trump campaign, had started more than two months prior.

Former FBI Director James Comey, testifying before the House in March, described the dossier as a compendium of “salacious and unverified” allegations against then-candidate Donald Trump and his associates. The Nunes panel has spent much of this year investigating whether DOJ, under then-Attorney General Loretta Lynch, used the dossier to justify a foreign surveillance warrant against Page.

The contacts between Ohr and Steele, and between Ohr and Simpson, have not been publicly disclosed nor shared with HPSCI staff.

The panel has issued numerous subpoenas for documents and witnesses related to the dossier but claims DOJ and FBI have “stonewalled,” an assertion that House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., seconded in a rare public statement in October.

While the agencies say they have cooperated extensively with Nunes and his team, including providing several hundred pages of classified documents relating to the dossier, it was only last weekend that DOJ and FBI agreed to make available to the committee for questioning Peter Strzok, the high-ranking FBI official who was disciplined in July for having sent-anti-Trump texts to a colleague while playing a decisive role in last year’s investigation into Mrs. Clinton’s private server.

Strzok was removed from the staff of Special Counsel Robert Mueller, who is probing allegations of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government, and demoted to a position on the FBI’s human resources division. The agencies’ decision to make Strzok available to House investigators came on the same day that The New York Times and The Washington Post disclosed the existence of the anti-Trump text messages, and Fox News disclosed that Strzok’s conduct in the Clinton case was under review by the FBI’s Office of Inspector General.

The demotion of Ohr thus marked the second time within a matter of months that the Justice Department and the FBI have disciplined for misconduct a senior official connected in some form or fashion to the Trump-Russia case.

According to congressional sources, Simpson and Ohr met sometime around Thanksgiving last year, when President-elect Trump was in the process of selecting his cabinet, and discussed over coffee the anti-Trump dossier, the Russia investigation and what Simpson considered the distressing development of Trump’s victory.

How exactly Simpson and Ohr came to know each other is still being investigated, but initial evidence collected by the House intelligence committee suggests that the two were placed in touch by Steele, a former FBI informant whose contacts with Ohr are said by senior DOJ officials to date back to 2006.

Nunes, who has instructed HPSCI staff to draft contempt-of-Congress citations against Rosenstein and FBI Director Christopher Wray – preparatory to a House vote on whether the citations should be enforced – issued a fresh subpoena on Thursday specifically covering Ohr and his files.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/07/top-doj-official-demoted-amid-probe-contacts-with-trump-dossier-firm.html

Why demoted?

Ought to be fired. These people will simply move up in in a few years.

Must not be that serious to only get a slap in the wrist for such evil.

[DarrinS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7A3QViXy-8

[Pavlov]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7A3QViXy-8What do you think is going to happen to Clinton now, Darrin? Comey? Whatever FBI agent is accused of bias?

[djohn2oo8]

Darrin has yet to explain why Jr lied about adoptions.

[Pavlov]

Darrin has yet to explain why Jr lied about adoptions.:lol attorney client privilege

[djohn2oo8]

:lol attorney client privilege

938903886043254799

[TSA]

Oh, well just humor me and answer this simple question for the record then:

What is the source of your theory?

No thanks. Your pathetic begging is enough humor for me.

[monosylab1k]

No thanks. Your pathetic begging is enough humor for me.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nzGhz8ySuk

[Chris]

GOWDY! GOWDY! GOWDY!

em7ryAzOU3c

[djohn2oo8]

938901748793692160

[Pavlov]

No thanks. Your pathetic begging is enough humor for me.So this is dodge #7 or 8 from you? More?

What is the source of your theory, TSA?


It is a simple, direct question.

[TSA]

So this is dodge #7 or 8 from you? More?

What is the source of your theory, TSA?


It is a simple, direct question.

On your knees begging :lol so pathetic.

[TSA]

TSA melting down after he didn't get what he was looking for. :lol

I got what I was looking for today and more.

E2Du2KC4NOk

[Pavlov]

On your knees begging :lol so pathetic.Just asking a simple question. Might as well ask it again since I'm sure you'll answer directly and quickly and not dodge or try to insult me for no reason -- after all, it's your theory.

What is the source of your theory, TSA?

[djohn2oo8]

TSA where is your source

[Chris]

I got what I was looking for today and more.

This

E2Du2KC4NOk

and this

em7ryAzOU3c

Next time I get questioned about something I will just say I'm not prepared :lol

[Reck]

I got what I was looking for today and more.

E2Du2KC4NOk

Jim Jordan. The same guy who got shut the fuck down by Jeff Sessions the last time. :lol Aim higher TSA.

[djohn2oo8]

938907650179436546

[Reck]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/07/politics/previously-undisclosed-emails-after-trump-tower-meeting/index.html

:cry No collusion

Brags about collusion in emails. :lol

[djohn2oo8]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/07/politics/previously-undisclosed-emails-after-trump-tower-meeting/index.html

:cry No collusion

Brags about collusion in emails. :lol

Poor Darrin.

[djohn2oo8]

938876623411130368
Two things.

1. Why did Jr lie and say it was about adoptions?
2. Why did Jr lie and say there were no followup emails?

[TSA]

TSA where is your source

It’s in this very thread. Maybe you can help that lazy fuck Chumpdumper find it. He’s having difficulty even though he quoted and commented on the source of the theory.

[djohn2oo8]

It’s in this very thread. Maybe you can help that lazy fuck Chumpdumper find it. He’s having difficulty even though he quoted and commented on the source of the theory.

If you are confident in your theory post the source.

[TSA]

This OIG report really has you guys shitting bricks.

[monosylab1k]

GOWDY! GOWDY! GOWDY!

em7ryAzOU3c

:tu great vid!

[djohn2oo8]

This OIG report really has you guys shitting bricks.

Can you post your source or not?

[djohn2oo8]

938912230673911808

[djohn2oo8]

938912661328232448

[djohn2oo8]

938912661328232448

938915674797346816

[Reck]

938915674797346816

:lol

How lucky does Stephanie or whatever the other undesirable Trump daughter feels right now? :lmao

[monosylab1k]

lol Don Jr.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYabrQrXt4A

[DarrinS]

It’s unraveling

[dabom]

It’s unraveling

[djohn2oo8]

It’s unraveling

?

[CosmicCowboy]

938912661328232448

Castro is a kunt.

[dabom]

938915674797346816

Boom X5.

[Reck]

I'm unraveling

Not gonna say you're wrong there.

[Pavlov]

This OIG report really has you guys shitting bricks.
Don't think it will change much.

Our asking you about your source really has you shittng bricks.

What is your source.?

[djohn2oo8]

938917440251187200
Lordy!

[Spurminator]

Bend over, I'll show you a buried tool.

[djohn2oo8]

938908122294489090
Yup

[Reck]

938917440251187200
Lordy!

Dont worry. Flynn is a 30 year old vet who knows this game. He has secret, secret, secret plans to undo all that. :tu

[TSA]

Judge recuses in Michael Flynn case

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/07/michael-flynn-judge-sentencing-287001

938946516521189383

[monosylab1k]

Dont worry. Flynn is a 30 year old vet who knows this game. He has secret, secret, secret plans to undo all that. :tu

Judge recused himself, must mean Hillary’s going down!

[djohn2oo8]

939111085885607936
Lordy!

[djohn2oo8]

939125047112937473 Reck baseline bum Pavlov

Lordy!

[pgardn]

One of the best explanations of the entire collusion v. Conspiracy mess and provides a good chronology.
If people read this, and take it seriously, it would cut down on all the inane retweeting.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/12/11/michael-flynns-guilty-plea-sends-donald-trumps-lawyers-scrambling

The title is misleading as to the more relevant content.

[pgardn]

939125047112937473 Reck (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14412) baseline bum (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=131) Pavlov (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7343)

Lordy!

And if you read the article I gave, you might be able to understand whether DJohn should rightly exclaim "Lordy", or not.
Its long but really good.

[boutons_deux]

Pootin/Assange colluding with Trash's mafiya

Trump campaign was offered access to WikiLeaks documents: report

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/363912-trump-campaign-was-offered-access-to-wikileaks-documents-report

Assange, Wikileaks have been turned by Pootin.

[pgardn]

Pootin/Assange colluding with Trash's mafiya

Trump campaign was offered access to WikiLeaks documents: report

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/363912-trump-campaign-was-offered-access-to-wikileaks-documents-report

Assange, Wikileaks have been turned by Pootin.




If you read the article I gave, you will see why the above might be completely irrelevant.

[pgardn]

One of the best explanations of the entire collusion v. Conspiracy mess and provides a good chronology.
If people read this, and take it seriously, it would cut down on all the inane retweeting.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/12/11/michael-flynns-guilty-plea-sends-donald-trumps-lawyers-scrambling

The title is misleading as to the more relevant content.

Also there is little doubt in my mind if Democrats controlled Congress, Trump would definitely be impeached; the timing would be critical though, as if they wanted to make some charge stick they would have to wait on Mueller. And there is also no doubt in my mind that a number of Republicans would vote to impeach as well.

[TSA]

Judge recused himself, must mean Hillary’s going down!

Extremely rare, and why would the judge recuse himself?

[Pavlov]

Extremely rare, and why would the judge recuse himself? What's the actual rate then?

And what is the source of your theory?

[djohn2oo8]

And if you read the article I gave, you might be able to understand whether DJohn should rightly exclaim "Lordy", or not.
Its long but really good.

Nobody gives a shit what you say.

[djohn2oo8]

939145150277832705
Christ!

[djohn2oo8]

939152604311023622

[djohn2oo8]

939150021953490952
And they never reported it to the FBI

[djohn2oo8]

939136847695024128
Rick bodying the shit out of Jr

[djohn2oo8]

939126036759015424
Lordy i cant get enough!

[pgardn]

Nobody gives a shit what you say.


K.
Everyone Djohn


But your lordy might be interpreted as very relevant.

So just continue to mark on your chalk board when you think you have made TSA, Darrin, Chucko, et al.... look bad.
Forget reality, play a game. It's expected.

Just throwing in actual discussion of the legal state of things and important timelines, don't read it.

[pgardn]

One of the best explanations of the entire collusion v. Conspiracy mess and provides a good chronology.
If people read this, and take it seriously, it would cut down on all the inane retweeting.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/12/11/michael-flynns-guilty-plea-sends-donald-trumps-lawyers-scrambling

The title is misleading as to the more relevant content.

[TSA]

What's the actual rate then?

And what is the source of your theory?

Don't know the actual rate and didn't give a theory of my own.

@TheLastRefuse2 post a theory and we'll soon find out if it is correct.

Judge Contreras sits on the foreign intelligence surveillance court.

938946516521189383

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQfYplqU8AE5c0S.jpg:large

Judge Contreras signed off on the FISA warrant
Judge Contreras recused himself

[Chucho]

K.
Everyone Djohn


But your lordy might be interpreted as very relevant.

So just continue to mark on your chalk board when you think you have made TSA, Darrin, Chucko, et al.... look bad.
Forget reality, play a game. It's expected.

Just throwing in actual discussion of the legal state of things and important timelines, don't read it.


No offense taken when Leftist Chris tries. He can't read a box score.

[Pavlov]

Don't know the actual rate and didn't give a theory of my own.

@TheLastRefuse2 post a theory and we'll soon find out if it is correct.

Judge Contreras sits on the foreign intelligence surveillance court.

938946516521189383

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQfYplqU8AE5c0S.jpg:large

Judge Contreras signed off on the FISA warrant
Judge Contreras recused himself
You made a claim it's extremely rare. Quantify that.

I'm asking what the source is for your grand NSA theory.

What is your source?

[TSA]

You made a claim it's extremely rare. Quantify that.I was not able to find another instance where a FISC judge recused himself/herself so I stated it was extremely rare. If you have knowledge that FISC judge recusals are common please share.


I'm asking what the source is for your grand NSA theory.

What is your source?

I told you from the start that I wasn't digging through all of these pages to find a link that you quoted yourself. Your pathetic begging over the last few days has been extremely pathetic.

[Pavlov]

I was not able to find another instance where a FISC judge recused himself/herself so I stated it was extremely rare. If you have knowledge that FISC judge recusals are common please share.



I told you from the start that I wasn't digging through all of these pages to find a link that you quoted yourself. Your pathetic begging over the last few days has been extremely pathetic.
So you have no evidence it's extremely rare.

What is the source of your grand NSA theory? All you have to do is answer this one simple question. There is no reason for you to dodge it when you accuse others of dodging questions so often.

[TSA]

So you have no evidence it's extremely rare.My evidence was not being able to find any other examples. Is a FISC judge recusing himself common?


What is the source of your grand NSA theory? All you have to do is answer this one simple question. There is no reason for you to dodge it when you accuse others of dodging questions so often.

The Begging

[Pavlov]

My evidence was not being able to find any other examples. Is a FISC judge recusing himself common?



The Begging
I can just conclude you didn't really look since you don't do much to support your claims or answer simple questions.

As for this begging business, now any question you ask of anyone will be considered begging. You asked for it, so to speak.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

One of the best explanations of the entire collusion v. Conspiracy mess and provides a good chronology.
If people read this, and take it seriously, it would cut down on all the inane retweeting.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/12/11/michael-flynns-guilty-plea-sends-donald-trumps-lawyers-scrambling

The title is misleading as to the more relevant content.

That article says that collusion cases are hard to prove and that other charges are already provable given the evidence we know.

What you fail to grasp is that all the tweeting is the media digesting new information as it is revealed. This is not remotely the full scope of the investigation. The FBI may have other evidence that proves more than obstruction and conspiracy.

[djohn2oo8]

939179046650466306

[DarrinS]

Psst. Everyone had access to the emails in July. No super secretey decryption key needed. :lol