View Full Version : Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
Pavlov
07-10-2017, 08:23 PM
That Jason Miller guy on CNN. :lol
Let's talk about the Clinton foundation and the Uranium she gave away. :lmaoTSA get TV gig!
djohn2oo8
07-10-2017, 08:27 PM
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djohn2oo8
07-10-2017, 08:27 PM
Wow indeed. If someone could show that email tho.
:lmao Jr's emails.
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If proven true, there is your collusion charges. Bye bye pop pop.
Adam Lambert
07-10-2017, 08:28 PM
but his emails!
:lmao
djohn2oo8
07-10-2017, 08:29 PM
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:lmao
djohn2oo8
07-10-2017, 08:36 PM
If proven true, there is your collusion charges. Bye bye pop pop.
Mueller already has Trump dead to rights before this story. This just means Bye BYE Jr and family.
Adam Schiff is killing it on Rachel.
Yeah yeah she's a joke but he's not.
DarrinS
07-10-2017, 08:43 PM
If proven true, there is your collusion charges. Bye bye pop pop.
:lol
Pavlov
07-10-2017, 08:43 PM
http://i.imgur.com/le23NlC.jpg
:lol
http://i.imgur.com/le23NlC.jpg
Talk of the devil and he shows. :lol Darrins
DarrinS
07-10-2017, 08:48 PM
Mueller already has Trump dead to rights before this story. This just means Bye BYE Jr and family.
:lol
Adam Lambert
07-10-2017, 08:54 PM
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djohn2oo8
07-10-2017, 09:04 PM
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:lmao
DarrinS
07-10-2017, 09:05 PM
Let me know when they arrest jr. :lmao
djohn2oo8
07-10-2017, 09:07 PM
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:lol
Chris
07-10-2017, 09:07 PM
:lol
Pavlov
07-10-2017, 09:08 PM
Let me know when they arrest jr. :lmaohttp://i.imgur.com/WkVi6xe.gif
djohn2oo8
07-10-2017, 09:08 PM
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:lol
Let me know when they arrest jr. :lmao
:lol
When you're left holding the bag, this happens. :lol
djohn2oo8
07-10-2017, 09:11 PM
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DarrinS
07-10-2017, 09:12 PM
https://sandiegofreepress.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/nothingburger.jpg
Darrins, put that in your avatar.
Pavlov
07-10-2017, 09:12 PM
Darrin will be here long time.
Soooooo this just happened over at Fox.
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:lmao meltdown mode activated.
Adam Lambert
07-10-2017, 09:22 PM
remember everybody, darrins doesnt even like trump
hes the kid in a snowball fight hiding behind a tree and just throwing snow in the air
:lmao
djohn2oo8
07-10-2017, 09:23 PM
remember everybody, darrins doesnt even like trump
hes the kid in a snowball fight hiding behind a tree and just throwing snow in the air
:lmao
:lol
boutons_deux
07-10-2017, 09:27 PM
NY Times Just Found New Evidence That Makes Trump Jr’s Scandal Even Worse
Donald Trump Jr. “was informed in an email that the material was part of a Russian government effort to aid his father’s candidacy, according to three people with knowledge of the email.”
“The email to the younger Mr. Trump,” the report continues, “was sent by Rob Goldstone, a publicist and former British tabloid reporter who helped broker the June 2016 meeting.
In a statement on Sunday, Mr. Trump acknowledged that he was interested in receiving damaging information about Mrs. Clinton, but gave no indication that he thought the lawyer might have been a Kremlin proxy.”
Don Jr.’s admission, that he, Jared Kushner, and then-campaign chairman Paul Manafort took the meeting precisely because they expected to get damaging information on Hillary Clinton, has only made a bad situation worse.
Now the news of this email further complicates their already struggling defense because it
removes any lingering doubt that Don Jr. and the Trump campaign knew exactly who they were meeting with, and how connected she was.
“Mr. Goldstone’s message, as described to The New York Times by the three people, indicates that the Russian government was the source of the potentially damaging information.”
http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/07/10/ny-times-just-found-new-evidence-makes-trump-jrs-scandal-even-worse/
Trash, his family, his entourage are SO FUCKED! :lol
Let's see how Trash tweets this, how the Repugs, TSA, Darrin, etc will spin it! :lol
Pavlov
07-10-2017, 09:28 PM
remember everybody, darrins doesnt even like trump
hes the kid in a snowball fight hiding behind a tree and just throwing snow in the air
:lmaoDarrin down.
TSA have to come in with fresh smiley smiles.
http://i.imgur.com/ClriS.gif
djohn2oo8
07-10-2017, 09:28 PM
Darrin down.
TSA have to come in with fresh smiley smiles.
http://i.imgur.com/ClriS.gif
:lmao
pgardn
07-10-2017, 10:50 PM
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This.
Is interesting.
Right now.
Lets see what it brings. Lots of ways to paint it as innocent, but nonetheless could be interesting if certain things fall into place IMO.
baseline bum
07-10-2017, 11:00 PM
Holy fuck he really did collude
pgardn
07-10-2017, 11:20 PM
The meeting was a big zero.
No problem that Trump jr. was looking for dirt on Clinton.
Did Jr go to the meeting expecting to get dirt on Clinton from a known Russian government source... not clear.
And gonna be difficult to prove. The emails have got to be scrutinized. We wait...
It's not good Jr just added this to his contact list, but not illegal methinks.
DarrinS
07-10-2017, 11:22 PM
Holy fuck he really did collude
So, is that Russian lawyer Guccifer? :lol
baseline bum
07-10-2017, 11:25 PM
http://i.imgur.com/le23NlC.jpg
Pavlov
07-10-2017, 11:26 PM
The meeting was a big zero.
No problem that Trump jr. was looking for dirt on Clinton.
Did Jr go to the meeting expecting to get dirt on Clinton from a known Russian government source... not clear.
And gonna be difficult to prove. The emails have got to be scrutinized. We wait...
It's not good Jr just added this to his contact list, but not illegal methinks.Damage done.
Trump linked with Russia.
All that need be said from now on.
baseline bum
07-10-2017, 11:32 PM
Damage done.
Trump linked with Russia.
All that need be said from now on.
:cry Since when is adoption a crime :cry
Pavlov
07-10-2017, 11:38 PM
:cry Since when is adoption a crime :cryJust for that baby farms stay closed.
DarrinS
07-10-2017, 11:40 PM
Holy fuck he really did collude
No, but he really really wanted to. But, she had no dirt. Oh well.
baseline bum
07-10-2017, 11:41 PM
No, but he really really wanted to. But, she had no dirt. Oh well.
Because she was there to talk about adoptions.
DarrinS
07-10-2017, 11:44 PM
Because she was there to talk about adoptions.
Nah, that was obviously a lie.
The meeting was a big zero.
No problem that Trump jr. was looking for dirt on Clinton.
Did Jr go to the meeting expecting to get dirt on Clinton from a known Russian government source... not clear.
And gonna be difficult to prove. The emails have got to be scrutinized. We wait...
It's not good Jr just added this to his contact list, but not illegal methinks.
No, but he really really wanted to. But, she had no dirt. Oh well.
And? The fact that he went into that meeting wittingly and knowingly that he would be getting dirt on Hillary from a russian national person is collusion on its face. It doesn't matter that he didn't get any information. He went into it full knowing that he could get it...from a russian person. That meets the term collusion. Look it up.
And it doesn't need to be proven because the idiot son himself caughed up to it. The email being tracked and found would just be icing on the cake but it's really not needed in this case when you have named sources collaborating the meeting. (The son, Kushner, Manafort and the lawyer)
pgardn
07-10-2017, 11:58 PM
And? The fact that he went into that meeting wittingly and knowingly that he would be getting dirt on Hillary from a russian national person is collusion on its face. It doesn't matter that he didn't get any information. He went into it full knowing that he could get it...from a russian person. That meets the term collusion. Look it up.
And it doesn't need to be proven because the idiot son himself caughed up to it. The email being tracked and found would just be icing on the cake but it's really not needed in this case when you have named sources collaborating the meeting. (The son, Kushner, Manafort and the lawyer)
From a Russian person does not do it.
Need to prove he expected to meet and get Russian government dirt on Hillary specifically for election purposes.
DarrinS
07-11-2017, 12:02 AM
And all this time, I thought they were looking into collusion with regard to the hacked emails.
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 12:04 AM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LAQ0XNhjG7U/VRDKtA1NugI/AAAAAAAAJZ4/LOqTmnYfz6k/s1600/all-is-well-o.gif
pgardn
07-11-2017, 12:08 AM
And all this time, I thought they were looking into collusion with regard to the hacked emails.
Well ya see Trump decided it would be best to get a Special Counsel involved who can look into just about anything he wants. The fat head shot his family and friends by being a stubborn fool.
DarrinS
07-11-2017, 12:12 AM
Well ya see Trump decided it would be best to get a Special Counsel involved who can look into just about anything he wants. The fat head shot his family and friends by being a stubborn fool.
Yep
boutons_deux
07-11-2017, 12:14 AM
Attorney Tor Ekeland (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_Ekeland), a criminal defense attorney who has represented high profile clients in hacking cases, has suggested in multiple tweets that Trump Jr. may be guilty of exactly that.
Tor Ekeland @TorEkelandPC (https://twitter.com/TorEkelandPC)
Neat conspiracy fact- you don't need to know the identity of your co-conspirator to be guilty of conspiracy.
10:41 AM - 10 Jul 2017 (https://twitter.com/TorEkelandPC/status/884437468421828608)
Tor Ekeland @TorEkelandPC (https://twitter.com/TorEkelandPC)
An act in furtherance of conspiracy can be as simple, and quite often is, just going to a meeting.
10:49 AM - 10 Jul 2017 (https://twitter.com/TorEkelandPC/status/884439438931116032)
, Ekeland wrote, “[D]epending what [the Trump camp] thought the information was that they were receiving it’s possibly a felony because it might meet all the elements for criminal conspiracy, or aiding and abetting, or attempt.”
The charges Ekeland listed above are what the law refers to as
“inchoate” crimes (https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/inchoate_offense), basically meaning that the crimes were planned out, and acted upon, but need not ever actually have been committed.
For example, two or more people could be arrested, charged and found guilty of the crime of conspiracy to commit murder even if the murder in question never occurred.
‘collusion’ is a synonym in this case for ‘conspiracy’. You don’t need to know the identity of the co-conspirators or the precise details of the illegal act you’re contemplating. I think you’ve got probable cause in this case to get a search warrant or maybe even an arrest warrant.”
“Three of the top people in the Trump campaign [Trump Jr., Paul Manfort and Jared Kushner] took time out of their day at Trump Tower to meet with this person. It’s ridiculous that they would have met with her without knowing her identity. They shouldn’t be speaking publicly about any of this. Their lawyers are idiots if they’ve advised them otherwise.”
“I think the whole thing turns on the nature of the information they were hoping to get. It depends what they were trying to conspire to do.”
“The conspiracy could just be between the Trump campaign, the illegal object could be to get illegally obtained information–the Russian could or could not be a co-conspirator.
All you need is an agreement and an act in furtherance, it doesn’t matter if the Russian doesn’t have the information she promised to have.
(Note: Conspiracy essentially has two elements:
(1) seeking an unlawful objective;
(2) an act in furtherance of that unlawful objective.)
The agreement underlying the conspiracy could just be between members of Trump’s campaign.
All it would take is the meeting as an act in furtherance if they were trying to get stolen information.
There are multiple possibilities [for conspiracy charges] here.
http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/the-reason-one-attorney-says-trump-jr-might-actually-be-screwed-for-russian-lawyer-meeting/
boutons_deux
07-11-2017, 12:16 AM
Hannity :lol
Opens Show With Monologue on the Media’s
‘Russia Psychosis’ :lol
“The meeting was meaningless, did nothing to produce anything. Where’s the collusion?” :lol
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/hannity-opens-show-with-monologue-on-the-medias-russia-psychosis/
:lol
And? The fact that he went into that meeting wittingly and knowingly that he would be getting dirt on Hillary from a russian national person is collusion on its face. It doesn't matter that he didn't get any information. He went into it full knowing that he could get it...from a russian person. That meets the term collusion. Look it up.
And it doesn't need to be proven because the idiot son himself caughed up to it. The email being tracked and found would just be icing on the cake but it's really not needed in this case when you have named sources collaborating the meeting. (The son, Kushner, Manafort and the lawyer)
Is paying a Ukrainian national and a British national to gather opposition research collusion with a foreign government?
pgardn
07-11-2017, 12:35 AM
Attorney Tor Ekeland (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_Ekeland), a criminal defense attorney who has represented high profile clients in hacking cases, has suggested in multiple tweets that Trump Jr. may be guilty of exactly that.
Tor Ekeland @TorEkelandPC (https://twitter.com/TorEkelandPC)
Neat conspiracy fact- you don't need to know the identity of your co-conspirator to be guilty of conspiracy.
10:41 AM - 10 Jul 2017 (https://twitter.com/TorEkelandPC/status/884437468421828608)
Tor Ekeland @TorEkelandPC (https://twitter.com/TorEkelandPC)
An act in furtherance of conspiracy can be as simple, and quite often is, just going to a meeting.
10:49 AM - 10 Jul 2017 (https://twitter.com/TorEkelandPC/status/884439438931116032)
, Ekeland wrote, “[D]epending what [the Trump camp] thought the information was that they were receiving it’s possibly a felony because it might meet all the elements for criminal conspiracy, or aiding and abetting, or attempt.”
The charges Ekeland listed above are what the law refers to as
“inchoate” crimes (https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/inchoate_offense), basically meaning that the crimes were planned out, and acted upon, but need not ever actually have been committed.
For example, two or more people could be arrested, charged and found guilty of the crime of conspiracy to commit murder even if the murder in question never occurred.
‘collusion’ is a synonym in this case for ‘conspiracy’. You don’t need to know the identity of the co-conspirators or the precise details of the illegal act you’re contemplating. I think you’ve got probable cause in this case to get a search warrant or maybe even an arrest warrant.”
“Three of the top people in the Trump campaign [Trump Jr., Paul Manfort and Jared Kushner] took time out of their day at Trump Tower to meet with this person. It’s ridiculous that they would have met with her without knowing her identity. They shouldn’t be speaking publicly about any of this. Their lawyers are idiots if they’ve advised them otherwise.”
“I think the whole thing turns on the nature of the information they were hoping to get. It depends what they were trying to conspire to do.”
“The conspiracy could just be between the Trump campaign, the illegal object could be to get illegally obtained information–the Russian could or could not be a co-conspirator.
All you need is an agreement and an act in furtherance, it doesn’t matter if the Russian doesn’t have the information she promised to have.
(Note: Conspiracy essentially has two elements:
(1) seeking an unlawful objective;
(2) an act in furtherance of that unlawful objective.)
The agreement underlying the conspiracy could just be between members of Trump’s campaign.
All it would take is the meeting as an act in furtherance if they were trying to get stolen information.
There are multiple possibilities [for conspiracy charges] here.
http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/the-reason-one-attorney-says-trump-jr-might-actually-be-screwed-for-russian-lawyer-meeting/
So we would have to know he had planned with people he knew (or possibly just thought, hmmmm?) were Russian government officials intent on giving Jr dirt on Hillary specifically for election purposes. This would be the crime, not murder, in this case.
As of right now, no. Smells, yes.
We wait.
Personally he seems like a little smirking dirt bag to me. But ask Thread, and he possibly gets a mild woodsy. Don't matter though.
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 12:37 AM
http://i.imgur.com/BWbQL.gif
pgardn
07-11-2017, 12:39 AM
^ I think many of us pull this.
Tis funny.
Pavlov's gif
Thread came rushing in with blood flowing to certain groin area extremities and slid in all vaselined up.
Is paying a Ukrainian national and a British national to gather opposition research collusion with a foreign government?
Why don't you just say what you want to say instead of trying the over played gotcha card?
IDGAF.
Little Donnie is on the record himself. Can't spin your way outta this one which is why he has opted to shut his trap and has lawyered the fuck up.
Chris
07-11-2017, 01:44 AM
Pavlov like to post gif and meme now
djohn2oo8
07-11-2017, 06:52 AM
Hilarious that Chris TSA Darrin and Cully all want to deny this when this is being leaked by Trump's own people :lmao
djohn2oo8
07-11-2017, 06:56 AM
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djohn2oo8
07-11-2017, 07:01 AM
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djohn2oo8
07-11-2017, 07:05 AM
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djohn2oo8
07-11-2017, 07:35 AM
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pgardn
07-11-2017, 09:37 AM
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Its totally clear the Russians were trying to influence a possible incoming administration and then again after the election. Of this there is no doubt. And this is nothing new. The Russians are constantly trying to seek weak spots in democracies because it's easy.
The problem is what do we know about the various Trump players participated the other way:
-actively sought out help from Russians to fiddle with elections?
-Responded to known overtures by the Russian government to cause chaos in elections?
-Sat in on meetings with what they thought were connected Russian business people to get a dialogue going with economic cooperation?
-The above with the intent to enrich themselves?
keep going.... down the line all the way to just trying to establish some sort of beginning cooperation of any area of mutual interest. This is far from clear just because people sat together.
And This lady lawyer has a pretty clear purpose based on what we have been given so far. And it's very different from what some people are trying to portray.
Very muddy water
boutons_deux
07-11-2017, 09:52 AM
Pootin bailed out Trash when US banks wouldn't do it again, after 4+ bankruptcies, is where I place the original Pootin compromise
Too much hidden tax returns, forgetting, denying, reversing, lying, conflicting stories, by way too many people to be innocent, harmless.
If Mueller and the many lawsuits don't bring all this shit down, then much more corruption will follow
In any case, the oligarchy and their Repug whores have fucked USA into unfuckability
clambake
07-11-2017, 10:48 AM
yep, he's in pretty deep.
let's hope putin doesn't order donna to do anything too crazy.
SnakeBoy
07-11-2017, 10:51 AM
http://www.redstate.com/uploads/2015/03/nothingburger.jpg
clambake
07-11-2017, 10:55 AM
i think donna has a debt to pay.
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 10:56 AM
Trump supporters post nothing burger. Wait for columnists write article they can quote.
DarrinS
07-11-2017, 10:58 AM
Media freakout exceeding all Russian expectations, tbh.
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 10:59 AM
Darrin care so little he post here all time.
DarrinS
07-11-2017, 11:01 AM
Darrin care so little he post here all time.
Best place to trigger socks.
Adam Lambert
07-11-2017, 11:03 AM
Media freakout exceeding all Russian expectations, tbh.
now that you cant say :cry no evidence :cry i see youve moved on to :cry so much media coverage :cry
this is the son of the president of the united states colluding with russia to influence our election, you stupid fucking communist. if you dont like america, get the hell out faggot.
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 11:04 AM
Best place to trigger socks.This how trigger works.
Some poster: Russia
Darrin: :madrun
DarrinS
07-11-2017, 11:13 AM
now that you cant say :cry no evidence :cry i see youve moved on to :cry so much media coverage :cry
this is the son of the president of the united states colluding with russia to influence our election, you stupid fucking communist. if you dont like america, get the hell out faggot.
Meh, I was pointing this out a while back
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=268989&page=10&p=9060169&viewfull=1#post9060169
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 11:19 AM
Darrin defend Trump to the death just to trigger sock.
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 11:27 AM
Interesting.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEdnhw-WsAEbW9N.jpg
Adam Lambert
07-11-2017, 11:29 AM
Meh, I was pointing this out a while back
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=268989&page=10&p=9060169&viewfull=1#post9060169
meh, its just the son of the president of the united states colluding with russia to influence our election.
youre right, why are they covering this instead of deray mckesson being triggered by a movie poster?
move to russia.
baseline bum
07-11-2017, 11:32 AM
Media freakout exceeding all Russian expectations, tbh.
Trump at least attempting to collude with the Russians isn't a big deal?
tlongII
07-11-2017, 11:36 AM
Trump at least attempting to collude with the Russians isn't a big deal?
What collusion? There was no offense in that email.
baseline bum
07-11-2017, 11:37 AM
What collusion? There was no offense in that email.
Uday admitted to it yesterday.
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 11:38 AM
Trump at least attempting to collude with the Russians isn't a big deal?
https://i.makeagif.com/media/8-19-2015/D8sxR1.gif
Thread
07-11-2017, 11:38 AM
Uday admitted to it yesterday.
lmao!!!
ElNono
07-11-2017, 11:39 AM
wait, so Fake News are still Fake or not?
Adam Lambert
07-11-2017, 11:41 AM
trump-coyote-falls-from-cliff-nyt-roadrunner-laughs.gif
djohn2oo8
07-11-2017, 12:02 PM
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Pavlov
07-11-2017, 12:04 PM
New talking point: Junior only conspire to commit treason!
Burger of nothing!
djohn2oo8
07-11-2017, 12:06 PM
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07-11-2017, 12:08 PM
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djohn2oo8
07-11-2017, 12:08 PM
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djohn2oo8
07-11-2017, 12:09 PM
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:lmao
djohn2oo8
07-11-2017, 12:10 PM
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:lmao :lmao :lmao
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 12:11 PM
Will be tough for TSA to Podesta his way out of this.
djohn2oo8
07-11-2017, 12:12 PM
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Trump Jr meeting with a Russian national for dirt on Clinton = collusion
DNC working directly with the Ukranian government for dirt on Trump and paying British national for dirt on Trump = no collusion
:rollin
djohn2oo8
07-11-2017, 12:13 PM
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Pavlov
07-11-2017, 12:16 PM
Will be tough for TSA to Podesta his way out of this.
Trump Jr meeting with a Russian national for dirt on Clinton = collusion
DNC working directly with the Ukranian government for dirt on Trump and paying British national for dirt on Trump = no collusion
:rollinAttaboy!
djohn2oo8
07-11-2017, 12:16 PM
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Adam Lambert
07-11-2017, 12:16 PM
but clinton but clinton but clinton but clinton but clinton but clinton but clinton but clinton but clinton but clinton but clinton but clinton but clinton but clinton but clinton but clinton but clinton but clinton but clinton but clinton :cry :cry :cry
Adam Lambert
07-11-2017, 12:19 PM
in case anyone is wondering where the steadfast trump shielders are getting their talking points
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boutons_deux
07-11-2017, 12:22 PM
The Fox/etc spin will be that Goldstone is not credible
But DJTJr's problem is that he took the corrupting bait, no matter how believable, and copied the Manafort and and Kushner, who took the bait and went to the meeting with the Russian mob lawyer.
He_nutty will say it's all Hillary's fault
hater
07-11-2017, 12:23 PM
Is Flynn in major trouble yet folks???
:lmao
DarrinS
07-11-2017, 12:24 PM
CNN having multiple orgasms. :lol
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 12:27 PM
Trump Jr meeting with a Russian national for dirt on Clinton = collusion
DNC working directly with the Ukranian government for dirt on Trump and paying British national for dirt on Trump = no collusion
:rollin"Look we just worked with the Russian government to get information bring down Clinton. Clinton supporters worked with the Ukrainian government to get information that we were working with the Russian government! MUCH WORSE!"
hater
07-11-2017, 12:27 PM
CNN having multiple orgasms. :lol
Lol yeah? Howso?
Adam Lambert
07-11-2017, 12:30 PM
Lol yeah? Howso?
theyre reporting evidence of collusion with russia by the us presidents campaign lol what a bunch of idiots right?
hater
07-11-2017, 12:32 PM
theyre reporting evidence of collusion with russia by the us presidents campaign lol what a bunch of idiots right?
Apparently they been dointhis for 6 months
With zero convictions :lmao
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 12:34 PM
Apparently they been dointhis for 6 months
With zero convictions :lmaoHow fast you think America justice system work?
Adam Lambert
07-11-2017, 12:36 PM
Apparently they been dointhis for 6 months
With zero convictions :lmao
thinks the media convicts people :lmao
theyre reporting evidence of collusion with russia by the us presidents campaign lol what a bunch of idiots right?
what collusion?
djohn2oo8
07-11-2017, 12:37 PM
884825884728975365:lmao
pgardn
07-11-2017, 12:38 PM
in case anyone is wondering where the steadfast trump shielders are getting their talking points
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Now what's sad about the above is Jr did release the email BECAUSE the NY Times called him about the story with the email saying they would release it. Jr did this to show transparency at first, and got called on it as a BS excuse. NOW they are saying he released the email because the NY Times would have not released enough for context or whatever. Idiots...
Bunch of lying dirt bags. Still does not prove anyththing but that they are willing to lie unabashedly. This is such an amateurish bunch that I can see them being completely ignorant of Russia's past behavior and just continuously doing stupid things without any history or context.
This will go down in history as one of the most chaotic, foolish, self entitled WH of all time. And people get upset that the press is spending too much time on it? It's a clown house of opportunity. If they actually understood the position they hold they might actually catch a break.
"Why do they keep picking on us, the evil mainstream media colluding with the Deep State"
They keep picking on you because you are a bunch of frkn clowns. Jr, really? You make it worse by lying when you don't need to. Christ...
" The Deeeeeeeep State........."
*cue shuddering*
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 12:39 PM
Apparently they been dointhis for 6 months
With zero convictions :lmao
How fast you think America justice system work?Serious question.
hater
07-11-2017, 12:40 PM
thinks the media convicts people :lmao
Never said that retard
Their "investigative" work should result in cnvictions no?
DarrinS
07-11-2017, 12:41 PM
Seems like he could be in trouble for lying to feds -- same as Flynn.
Trumps not smart enough to firewall themselves, like the Clintons did with their oppo research from Ukraine and Mr. Steele. And jr didn't even get anything. :lol
boutons_deux
07-11-2017, 12:41 PM
Trash and his brood have been immunized from society, its protocols, conventions, customer, and lows, by their wealth.
Adam Lambert
07-11-2017, 12:42 PM
Never said that retard
Their "investigative" work should result in cnvictions no?
How fast you think America justice system work?
pgardn
07-11-2017, 12:43 PM
Never said that retard
Their "investigative" work should result in cnvictions no?
The media is playing up, cabbage head, because the WH is a bunch of clowns. You have no idea what the different investigators have got right now.
hater
07-11-2017, 12:43 PM
Oh so Trump and family will be indicted in 2025
Carry on then :lmao
Adam Lambert
07-11-2017, 12:43 PM
everyone noticing how daddy is steering clear of this? no tweets yet in defense of his son. he even vouched for flynn! :lmao
boutons_deux
07-11-2017, 12:44 PM
Christopher HayesVerified account @chrislhayes (https://twitter.com/chrislhayes)
HE PUT A DESCRIPTION OF THE CONSPIRACY IN AN EMAIL !!! https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f602.pnghttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f602.pnghttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f602.pnghttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f602.pnghttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f602.pnghttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f602.pnghttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f602.pnghttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f602.pnghttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f602.pnghttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f602.pnghttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f602.pnghttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f602.pnghttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f602.pnghttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f602.pnghttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f602.pnghttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f602.png
6:31 PM - 10 Jul 2017
boutons_deux
07-11-2017, 12:44 PM
Drudge posts nothing but:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEawAxtW0AAsZtu.jpg
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 12:44 PM
Oh so Trump and family will be indicted in 2025
Carry on then :lmaoYou not answer question.
How fast you think America justice system work?
boutons_deux
07-11-2017, 12:45 PM
Josh Schwerin @JoshSchwerin (https://twitter.com/JoshSchwerin)
You have to love that Rob Goldstone wrote an email saying the Russian gov wants to help beat Hillary and then checked in for the meeting
9:08 PM - 10 Jul 2017 (https://twitter.com/JoshSchwerin/status/884595150810484741)
(https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?in_reply_to=884595150810484741)
8,4858,485 Retweets (https://twitter.com/intent/retweet?tweet_id=884595150810484741)
19,51019,510 likes (https://twitter.com/intent/like?tweet_id=884595150810484741)
boutons_deux
07-11-2017, 12:46 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEaymVXXcAAY1a5.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEay7X9XYAYpKRy.jpg
boutons_deux
07-11-2017, 12:47 PM
Keith Olbermann
✔@KeithOlbermann (https://twitter.com/KeithOlbermann)
NEW VIDEO: The day JR, Kushner met the Russian Government lawyer, Trump sent 1ST tweet about HRC's "33,000 emails"
9:57 PM - 10 Jul 2017 (https://twitter.com/KeithOlbermann/status/884607516113592321)
Keith Olbermann
✔@KeithOlbermann (https://twitter.com/KeithOlbermann)
NEW VIDEO: The day JR, Kushner met the Russian Government lawyer, Trump sent 1ST tweet about HRC's "33,000 emails"
9:57 PM - 10 Jul 2017 (https://twitter.com/KeithOlbermann/status/884607516113592321)
DarrinS
07-11-2017, 12:48 PM
And lmao at "Crown Prosecutor of Russia"
djohn2oo8
07-11-2017, 12:49 PM
884829636047372289
:lmao
boutons_deux
07-11-2017, 12:49 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEbEKIrV0AEB8lc.jpg
pgardn
07-11-2017, 12:49 PM
Oh so Trump and family will be indicted in 2025
Carry on then :lmao
Why should they be indicted at all?
Do you know what the various investigations have?
It could just be a bunch of lying stooges tripping over themselves.
:lol won't end how you are hoping
:lol continuous Russian blue balls
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 12:52 PM
And lmao at "Crown Prosecutor of Russia"Yes, Brit saying "Crown" make everything go away.
All is well!
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 12:57 PM
:lol won't end how you are hoping
:lol continuous Russian blue ballshttps://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/a7/24/d7/a724d729b533ed0d83cded9856cb1239.jpg
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 12:59 PM
*dingYes, forget to ding you when you deflect earlier.
Many thanks be to you.
boutons_deux
07-11-2017, 01:00 PM
All the times Trump mocked the idea of Russia collusion on Twitter
(there's a bunch of them)
https://www.vox.com/world/2017/7/11/15948598/china-russia-beijing-censorship-weibo-putin-xi-jinping-g20-criticism-trump
boutons_deux
07-11-2017, 01:04 PM
I bet TSA and other Trash fellators will end up like this dickless Muslim hater
https://wonkette.com/620092/asshole-patriot-who-threatened-muslim-couple-cries-real-tears-after-arrest
I bet TSA and other Trash fellators will end up like this dickless Muslim hater
https://wonkette.com/620092/asshole-patriot-who-threatened-muslim-couple-cries-real-tears-after-arrest
How many Spurstalk windows do you have open to fuck up and post in the wrong threads so often?
theyre reporting evidence of collusion with russia by the us presidents campaign lol what a bunch of idiots right?
what collusion?
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 01:15 PM
High power lawyer TSA all over this.
boutons_deux
07-11-2017, 01:16 PM
How many Spurstalk windows do you have open to fuck up and post in the wrong threads so often?
:lol take my bitch slappings like the dickless twerp you are
Adam Lambert
07-11-2017, 01:18 PM
what collusion?
the collusion referenced in the email.
im not going to hold your hand through this, its kind of one of those consensus things at this point so its like arguing with darrins over climate change. if i want to know 4chans position ill check directly with the /pol/tards.
SnakeBoy
07-11-2017, 01:18 PM
what collusion?
Russia tried to help Trump by sending a lawyer who knew nothing about Hillary to meet with Trump Jr.
Adam Lambert
07-11-2017, 01:20 PM
Russia tried to help Trump by sending a lawyer who knew nothing about Hillary to meet with Trump Jr.
and jr showed up for it thinking she may have had something
boutons_deux
07-11-2017, 01:24 PM
Vox poll: before the Trump Jr. emails, Republicans thought the Russia question was a distraction :lol
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/yP21JeRAcKCcfFUP-7gbmQaKarw=/164x0:2407x1495/1310x873/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/55662295/Trump_rusia_illo.0.jpg
Of the 9,056 total responses,
50 percent said it was a serious issue and
46 said it was more of a distraction.
Partisanship polarized the results:
83 percent of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents said the allegations were more of a distraction,
while 83 percent of Democrats and Democratic leaners called it a serious issue.
Trump’s approval ratings similarly influenced the results.
Eighty-four percent of respondents who said they approve of Trump thought the Russia scandal was more of a distraction,
while 79 percent of those who disapprove of the president said they think Russia is a serious issue.
As more damning evidence is revealed drawing discrete connections between the Trump administration and the Kremlin, public opinion could change.
The question remains:
Will Republicans and independents see the unfolding events as more troubling or continue to brush them off as distractions?
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/7/11/15953514/trump-russia-poll-republicans-divided-distraction-serious-issue
My guess is the Repug tribe will mostly stick with childish patriotism and loyalty of "My President, right or wrong"
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 01:25 PM
Russia tried to help Trump by sending a lawyer who knew nothing about Hillary to meet with Trump Jr.So you say Dear Leader Putin lure Trump into conspiracy without even holding up his end?
Cannot argue this.
the collusion referenced in the email.
im not going to hold your hand through this, its kind of one of those consensus things at this point so its like arguing with darrins over climate change. if i want to know 4chans position ill check directly with the /pol/tards.
what collusion referenced in the email? Be specific.
boutons_deux
07-11-2017, 01:29 PM
Putin lure Trump into conspiracy without even holding up his end?
but Podesta got suckered by a phish mail! :lol
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 01:35 PM
but Podesta got suckered by a phish mail! :lolNo! Was Seth Rich USB drive!
Adam Lambert
07-11-2017, 01:46 PM
if the internet sleuths who soaked themselves in so much of their own fluids while piecing together grand clinton conspiracy theories werent such trump loyalists, this would be the best time of their lives right now.
the conflicts of interest, the secret meetings that were lied about, the foreign policy decisions, and the plain stupidity of this administration should be giving them more than enough to satisfy their wannabe woodwardness.
but they sold out to the appeal of the maga shitlords who made them dream that they could be well-liked and have sex with a woman someday.
baseline bum
07-11-2017, 01:48 PM
Anyone think Uday published that email to take heat off McConnell so the senate can snatch peoples' healthcare away without it being the top story?
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 01:49 PM
if the internet sleuths who soaked themselves in so much of their own fluids while piecing together grand clinton conspiracy theories werent such trump loyalists, this would be the best time of their lives right now.
the conflicts of interest, the secret meetings that were lied about, the foreign policy decisions, and the plain stupidity of this administration should be giving them more than enough to satisfy their wannabe woodwardness.
but they sold out to the appeal of the maga shitlords who made them dream that they could be well-liked and have sex with a woman someday.If only Russian lawyer bring pizza to meeting....
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 01:50 PM
Anyone think Uday published that email to take heat off McConnell so the senate can snatch peoples' healthcare away without it being the top story?Thought they still seven short.
boutons_deux
07-11-2017, 01:53 PM
White House deputy press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders read a statement on Tuesday that had Trump praising his son’s “transparency” but not defending his son from accusations of collusion with the Russian government.
“My son is a high-quality person and I applaud his transparency,” Sanders read on behalf of the president.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-russian-collusion_us_59651049e4b005b0fdc8fa9e?utm_medium=e mail&utm_campaign=__BREAKING__%20Trump%20Weighs%20In%20 On%20Donald%20Trump%20Jrs%20Eagerness%20For%20Russ ian%20Help%202017-07-11T183801960Z&utm_content=__BREAKING__%20Trump%20Weighs%20In%20O n%20Donald%20Trump%20Jrs%20Eagerness%20For%20Russi an%20Help%202017-07-11T183801960Z+CID_f6e5c160564bfca381b7f4497f43fdd1&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=Read%20More&ncid=newsltushpmgnews__BREAKING__%20Trump%20Weighs %20In%20On%20Donald%20Trump%20Jrs%20Eagerness%20Fo r%20Russian%20Help%202017-07-11T183801960Z
Adam Lambert
07-11-2017, 01:54 PM
Anyone think Uday published that email to take heat off McConnell so the senate can snatch peoples' healthcare away without it being the top story?
thats a helluva personal risk.
he only published it because the nyt was about to.
baseline bum
07-11-2017, 01:54 PM
Thought they still seven short.
Cruz, Lee, Paul, Portman will probably all fall in line with McConnell. Capito will get a few medicaid dollars and some crap for opiod addiction and call it a win. Collins, Murkowski, and Heller will have to be the ones to sink the Trumpcare bait & switch. If any one of them gets bought off Pence will be vote #51.
boutons_deux
07-11-2017, 02:19 PM
Obama’s Ethics Chief Just Issued A Brutal Response To Trump Jr.’s Russia Scandal
(https://twitter.com/NormEisen)
Norm EisenVerified account @NormEisen (https://twitter.com/NormEisen)Follow
Norm Eisen Retweeted Donald Trump Jr.
this is extraordinary: proof that collusion was offered, and accepted. whether actual help/info flowed in 1st meeting or later, irrelevant
Norm EisenVerified account @NormEisen (https://twitter.com/NormEisen)Follow
Norm Eisen Retweeted Donald Trump Jr.
I have worked on campaigns and as an election lawyer for decades; NEVER seen anything like this, &EVERY other campaign would have called FBI
Norm EisenVerified account @NormEisen (https://twitter.com/NormEisen)Follow
Norm Eisen Retweeted Michael McFaul
even more deeply illegal @mcfaul (https://twitter.com/McFaul). clearly violates campaign finance law and likely implicates Don Jr. and campaign under conspiracy statute
http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/07/11/obamas-ethics-chief-just-issued-brutal-response-trump-jr-s-russia-scandal/
Dunno how anyone can spin that email as anything but horrific for Team Trump. Even if there was no credible evidence and even if DJT Jr has doubts about the source, there's still an obligation to disclose that information to the FBI. Civil and even criminal liability doesn't have to be based on an affirmative act -- the failure to do something which you are compelled to do by law is also a basis as well. It's hard to imagine DJT Jr not having exposure from failing to disclose this offer to law enforcement.
Unfortunately, I think "Russia" been at such a fever pitch that nothing much will come from this. Which is more of an indictment on the government and the electorate than on the news itself
Dunno how anyone can spin that email as anything but horrific for Team Trump. Even if there was no credible evidence and even if DJT Jr has doubts about the source, there's still an obligation to disclose that information to the FBI. Civil and even criminal liability doesn't have to be based on an affirmative act -- the failure to do something which you are compelled to do by law is also a basis as well. It's hard to imagine DJT Jr not having exposure from failing to disclose this offer to law enforcement.
Unfortunately, I think "Russia" been at such a fever pitch that nothing much will come from this. Which is more of an indictment on the government and the electorate than on the news itself
Both campaigns got with foreign nationals for opposition research, one campaign paid for it. Nothing will happen to anyone from either campaign.
Both campaigns got with foreign nationals for opposition research, one campaign paid for it. Nothing will happen to anyone from either campaign.
Fascinating but irrelevant. "Yah, but Hillary" doesn't somehow excuse or let DJT Jr off the hook
Fascinating but irrelevant. "Yah, but Hillary" doesn't somehow excuse or let DJT Jr off the hook
Charge them both or charge neither. Nothing will happen to either.
Some low quality level of semen shielding going on here.
boutons_deux
07-11-2017, 03:22 PM
Both campaigns got with foreign nationals for opposition research, one campaign paid for it. Nothing will happen to anyone from either campaign.
You false equivalence is risibly weak shit
pgardn
07-11-2017, 03:24 PM
Anyone think Uday published that email to take heat off McConnell so the senate can snatch peoples' healthcare away without it being the top story?
Now what's sad about the above (Adams post) is Jr did release the email BECAUSE the NY Times called him about the story with the email saying they (NY Times) would release it. Jr did this to show transparency at first, and got called on it as a BS transparency attempt. NOW Trumps are saying he released the email because the NY Times would have not released enough for context or whatever. Idiots...
No way.
They are clowns.
http://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/107026/391fbf6-251518.JPG
:rollin
boutons_deux
07-11-2017, 03:43 PM
Mitch McConnell has nothing to say about how he helped Russia get into the White House (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/7/11/1679750/-Mitch-McConnell-has-nothing-to-say-about-how-he-helped-Russia-get-into-the-White-House)
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is refusing to answer (https://twitter.com/ericawerner/status/884842831663202304)whether he now "regrets not doing anything when briefed on Russia meddling" or if he trusts popular vote loser Donald Trump less in the wake of the younger Don Trump's public confession of inviting the Russians into the campaign. He simply referred reporters to the Senate Intelligence Committee.
Greg Sargent takes us back (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/07/11/five-key-facts-about-donald-trump-jr-s-just-released-explosive-email-exchange/?utm_term=.f0982e4a3f94)to the summer of 2016, and the briefing the intelligence community (https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/world/national-security/obama-putin-election-hacking/?hpid=hp_hp-banner-high_russiaobama-banner-7a%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&tid=a_inl&utm_term=.d5d9212c9814) provided to the 12 top congressional leaders from both parties.
The meeting devolved into a partisan squabble.“The Dems were, ‘Hey, we have to tell the public,’ ” recalled one participant.
But Republicans resisted, arguing that to warn the public that the election was under attack would further Russia’s aim of sapping confidence in the system.
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) went further, officials said, voicing skepticism that the underlying intelligence truly supported the White House’s claims.
Through a spokeswoman, McConnell declined to comment, citing the secrecy of that meeting. …
A week later, McConnell and other congressional leaders issued a cautious statement that encouraged state election officials to ensure their networks were “secure from attack.”
The release made no mention of Russia and emphasized that the lawmakers “would oppose any effort by the federal government” to encroach on the states’ authorities.
https://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/7/11/1679750/-Mitch-McConnell-has-nothing-to-say-about-how-he-helped-Russia-get-into-the-White-House?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29
But Trash says the hoax of non-existent Russian meddling was Obama's fault, because the Repugs blocked Obama from going public with the hoax. :lol
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 03:44 PM
Both campaigns got with foreign nationals for opposition research, one campaign paid for it. Nothing will happen to anyone from either campaign.Yes, both cases exactly same.
No difference whatsoever.
Yes, both cases exactly same.
No difference whatsoever.
explain the difference.
monosylab1k
07-11-2017, 03:58 PM
explain the difference.
Well, you're clearly inclined to semen shield for one side over the other.
Thread
07-11-2017, 03:59 PM
Both campaigns got with foreign nationals for opposition research, one campaign paid for it. Nothing will happen to anyone from either campaign.
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 04:01 PM
explain the difference.In person meeting by son, son-in-law and campaign manager with representative explicitly said to be working with Russian government in support of Trump.
Explain how exactly same.
Well, you're clearly inclined to semen shield for one side over the other.
explain the difference.
Adam Lambert
07-11-2017, 04:03 PM
884854358705360896
884775508608774144
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Adam Lambert
07-11-2017, 04:04 PM
explain the difference.
trump president not the other person
boutons_deux
07-11-2017, 04:14 PM
FOX News Just Reported On Trump Jr.’s Russia Scandal, But Left Out One Key Detail
On the “chemtrails are turning the frogs gay (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqWSzv7ESJY) and there are secret NASA child slave camps on Mars (http://www.joemygod.com/2017/06/29/alex-jones-guest-children-kidnapped-sent-spaceships-slave-colonies-mars-video/)” side of the alt-right media spectrum, Alex Jones and Mike Cernovich have decided that in fact Donald Trump Jr. was actually trying to find Russian spies (https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2017/07/11/trump-ally-alex-jones-donald-trump-jr-was-doing-his-job-trying-find-russian-spies/217214) and was investigating possible wrongdoing by Hillary Clinton (https://twitter.com/2dAmMuslim/status/884818662040846336), so there’s nothing wrong with what he did!
============
Bill Mitchell (https://twitter.com/mitchellvii)
✔@mitchellvii (https://twitter.com/mitchellvii)
This whole Don Jr story is the media trying to distract from Trump's WILDLY SUCCESSFUL G20.
It won't work. We won't let it work. https://twitter.com/Tacflame1/status/884873879784759297 … (https://t.co/jd5R9UlSUJ)
3:36 PM - 11 Jul 2017 (https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/884874164234055681)
=================
The Outnumbered crew read the emails out word-for-word on the air,
but
they omitted a crucial part – the sentence that read “Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.”
FOX News has spent the past two weeks slowly and carefully laying out the groundwork for arguing that
collusion with Russia (https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2017/07/11/Foxs-chief-intelligence-correspondent-edited-out-mention-of-Russian-government-when-quotin/217211) would not, in fact, be anything to be concerned about, because,
in the post-truth Trump America,
the news is fake,
Putin is good,
NATO is bad, and
treason is patriotism.
http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/07/11/fox-news-just-reported-trump-jr-s-russia-scandal-left-one-key-detail/
Pootin tying America's establishment and media in knots is a huge win for him.
meanwhile, another huge win, in China's War on Information and free expression:
Beijing just told 340 million Chinese not to criticize Putin on social media
The Russian president is the first foreign leader to be protected from online criticism in China.
https://www.vox.com/world/2017/7/11/15948598/china-russia-beijing-censorship-weibo-putin-xi-jinping-g20-criticism-trump
Chris
07-11-2017, 04:16 PM
Some Russian lawyer said something. NEXT on MSNBC!
Spurminator
07-11-2017, 04:19 PM
Fascinating to watch the online Trump defense evolve their arguments as more damning information is revealed.
Can't wait to see what the argument is when emails between Trump and Putin with the title "How We Will Steal the Election" are revealed. I suspect the argument will have something to do with Hillary Clinton.
djohn2oo8
07-11-2017, 04:22 PM
Anyone think Uday published that email to take heat off McConnell so the senate can snatch peoples' healthcare away without it being the top story?
No. NYT was about to drop the emails and dummy tried to get ahead of them.
djohn2oo8
07-11-2017, 04:23 PM
Some low quality level of semen shielding going on here.
Darrin. TSA. Chris. Cully. Fuck those traitors. They will be shamed
trump president not the other person
that doesn't suffice as we are talking about what happened during the election.
boutons_deux
07-11-2017, 04:24 PM
“The questions are obvious.
The answers are wanting.
We the American people deserve to know what in God’s name is happening.
Our legal system demands a presumption of innocence until the evidence proves otherwise.
And the evidence is piling up.
I have been around a long time.
I like to think I have seen a lot.
But the revelations of the emails that set up the meeting between Donald Trump. Jr. – and let us not forget both Paul Manafort and Jarod Kushner – with an agent of the Russian government is unlike anything I could even have imagined.
There is still a lot that we do not know.
But only a hypocrite, a cynic or a fool could argue that this development can be innocuously explained.
It is like a carnival mirror is being held up to American democracy, distorting everything we thought we knew into grotesque new shapes.
We need a reality check.
This is decision time, especially for our elected officials.
Which side of history will you be on?”
http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/07/11/dan-rather-just-gave-best-response-trump-jr-s-russia-scandal/
My guess is Trash will let DJTJr be the scapegoat
Darrin. TSA. Chris. Cully. Fuck those traitors. They will be shamed
How many indictments that you've predicted have come to fruition?
:lol shame
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 04:26 PM
explain the difference.
In person meeting by son, son-in-law and campaign manager with representative explicitly said to be working with Russian government in support of Trump.
Explain how exactly same.
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 04:26 PM
How many indictments that you've predicted have come to fruition?
:lol shameHow fast you think US justice system work?
hater not answer.
Fascinating to watch the online Trump defense evolve their arguments as more damning information is revealed.
Can't wait to see what the argument is when emails between Trump and Putin with the title "How We Will Steal the Election" are revealed. I suspect the argument will have something to do with Hillary Clinton.
Even more fascinating to watch you pretend only one campaign tried to get opposition research.
pgardn
07-11-2017, 04:28 PM
No. NYT was about to drop the emails and dummy tried to get ahead of them.
And claimed it was his attempt at being transparent.
Then, Jr got called on this BS so they changed the story indicating the NY Times would leave out important context of the email. The guy is an easy liar. And a very sloppy one. If people went to different stages of jail for the more lies they tell, the Trumps would be on death row.
Chris
07-11-2017, 04:28 PM
:cry Hillary dindu nuffin' :cry
boutons_deux
07-11-2017, 04:31 PM
Trump Gave A Suspicious Speech Days After His Son Sent Incriminating Russian Emails
President Trump denies that he knew about the offer, but
just four days after it was made – on June 7th – he gave a campaign speech in which he explicitly promised his supporters that he would provide them with new salacious Clinton intel in a “major speech,” in the coming days, possibly on June 13th, the following Monday.
Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, and Paul Manafort then met with the Russian lawyer on Thursday, June 9th.
It seems that Trump thought his minions would get valuable Clinton information on Thursday,
and he could then announce it on Monday.
http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/07/11/trump-gave-suspicious-speech-days-son-sent-incriminating-russian-emails/
pgardn
07-11-2017, 04:31 PM
:cry Hillary dindu nuffin' :cry
Trump president, not Clinton.
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 04:32 PM
Trump president, not Clinton.
But Chalupa Fusion!
Adam Lambert
07-11-2017, 04:32 PM
that doesn't suffice as we are talking about what happened during the election.
its perfectly sufficient to talk more about the one who won president. you dont want to do that at all, which we all expect but still makes you a fucking hypocrite and a useful idiot.
i dont care about clinton because shes a nobody. i already said lock them both up for all i care. i havent looked into the thing with ukraine because it doesnt matter. she lost.
if you believe theyre both guilty of something it makes no sense to care more about what the non-president did than what the president did. but again, we expect this from you because youre a puny little alt-reich follower who just apes whatever bill mitchell or mike cernovich or that dilbert faggot has to say about the matter. sad
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 04:37 PM
Maybe TSA miss first two times.
explain the difference.
In person meeting by son, son-in-law and campaign manager with representative explicitly said to be working with Russian government in support of Trump.
Explain how exactly same.
Spurminator
07-11-2017, 04:37 PM
Even more fascinating to watch you pretend only one campaign tried to get opposition research.
No that doesn't sound fascinating at all. I haven't really said anything about Clinton, for one thing, and I certainly haven't spent months denying claims that she did anything wrong, only to now change my position to something like "The other guy did it too" or "What's the big deal anyway?"
boutons_deux
07-11-2017, 04:40 PM
you rightwingnuts and Trash fellators forget how Pootin bailed out Trash's failing businesses
“Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets … We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”
That was Donald Trump, Jr. in 2008 discussing his family’s business ties to Russia.
its perfectly sufficient to talk more about the one who won president. you dont want to do that at all, which we all expect but still makes you a fucking hypocrite and a useful idiot.
i dont care about clinton because shes a nobody. i already said lock them both up for all i care. i havent looked into the thing with ukraine because it doesnt matter. she lost.
if you believe theyre both guilty of something it makes no sense to care more about what the non-president did than what the president did. but again, we expect this from you because youre a puny little alt-reich follower who just apes whatever bill mitchell or mike cernovich or that dilbert faggot has to say about the matter. sad
I already said to charge them both if they did anything wrong. And it doesn't matter who won or lost the election if we are talking about campaign finance laws, which is what this is all about.
You should read up a bit on the DNC and the Ukrainian government before crying about Trump Jr and a Russian lady
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 04:43 PM
I already said to charge them both if they did anything wrong. And it doesn't matter who won or lost the election if we are talking about campaign finance laws, which is what this is all about.
You should read up a bit on the DNC and the Ukrainian government before crying about Trump Jr and a Russian lady
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446Great.
Now you can explain how exactly the same.
Adam Lambert
07-11-2017, 04:44 PM
I already said to charge them both if they did anything wrong. And it doesn't matter who won or lost the election if we are talking about campaign finance laws, which is what this is all about.
You should read up a bit on the DNC and the Ukrainian government before crying about Trump Jr and a Russian lady
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446
why would i read up on that before talking about something that has to do with the MAN CURRENTLY OCCUPYING THE WHITE HOUSE???
get over it, not everyone is as hillary obsessed as you. if we lock her up, there is no impact to our lives. if we lock trump up, we get a criminal out of the white house.
how is this even a conversation?
No that doesn't sound fascinating at all. I haven't really said anything about Clinton, for one thing, and I certainly haven't spent months denying claims that she did anything wrong, only to now change my position to something like "The other guy did it too" or "What's the big deal anyway?"
Was it wrong for the DNC to work with the Ukrainian government and pay a British national for opposition research?
why would i read up on that before talking about something that has to do with the MAN CURRENTLY OCCUPYING THE WHITE HOUSE???
get over it, not everyone is as hillary obsessed as you. if we lock her up, there is no impact to our lives. if we lock trump up, we get a criminal out of the white house.
how is this even a conversation?
You are holding both campaigns to different standards.
"if we lock trump up" :rollin
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 04:50 PM
Was it wrong for the DNC to work with the Ukrainian government and pay a British national for opposition research?Maybe TSA miss first three times.
explain the difference.
In person meeting by son, son-in-law and campaign manager with representative explicitly said to be working with Russian government in support of Trump.
Explain how exactly same.
Adam Lambert
07-11-2017, 04:51 PM
You are holding both campaigns to different standards.
yep, id always be more concerned with the current president regardless who won. why wouldnt you?
"if we lock trump up" :rollin
it was your hypothetical, retard.
I already said to charge them both if they did anything wrong.
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 04:52 PM
yep, id always be more concerned with the current president regardless who won. why wouldnt you?Nope. Chalupa Fusion must hang!
boutons_deux
07-11-2017, 04:53 PM
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...ackfire-233446 (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446)
... all very damning for Trash, his team, Manafort being Pootin stooges.
Of course, the Ukranians were grateful to Clinton/NATO for overthrowing Pootin's stooge.
How many top Clinton aids talk to Ukrainians? How many 1000s of cyber-warriors did Ukraine attacks Trash with? etc, etc.
Totally false equivalence.
Trash and his team were and are Pootin stooges,
Clinton and her team were not Ukrainian stooges.
yep, id always be more concerned with the current president regardless who won. why wouldnt you?
it was your hypothetical, retard.
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:lol thinking people do jail time for breaking campaign finance laws.
Adam Lambert
07-11-2017, 04:59 PM
:lol thinking people do jail time for breaking campaign finance laws.
semantics on a hypothetical is totally a winning argument.
i dont care about the specific punishment, i want his presidency disabled and i want him out of office, whether by 2020 vote or by force before then, so our collective national embarrassment can be over as soon as possible.
hes the greatest shame in this country's history since slavery.
Trill Clinton
07-11-2017, 05:01 PM
884805448175583232
semantics on a hypothetical is totally a winning argument.
i dont care about the specific punishment, i want his presidency disabled and i want him out of office, whether by 2020 vote or by force before then, so our collective national embarrassment can be over as soon as possible.
hes the greatest shame in this country's history since slavery.
you'll have to wait until 2020. maybe next time you'll get out and vote.
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 05:04 PM
Maybe TSA miss first four times.
explain the difference.
In person meeting by son, son-in-law and campaign manager with representative explicitly said to be working with Russian government in support of Trump.
Explain how exactly same.
Adam Lambert
07-11-2017, 05:05 PM
you'll have to wait until 2020. maybe next time you'll get out and vote.
i did vote, twice!
and if its not until 2020 so be it. but the worse it gets for him, the better 2018 looks for dems, and his sackless gop lackeys have more motivation to distance from him before then.
:cry stop ignoring me :cry
i did vote, twice!
and if its not until 2020 so be it. but the worse it gets for him, the better 2018 looks for dems, and his sackless gop lackeys have more motivation to distance from him before then.
:lol the better 2018 looks for dems
:lol special elections failure
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 05:07 PM
:cry stop ignoring me :cryThird thread where you shit pants.
You can ask questi:cryns but can't answ:cryr.
Adam Lambert
07-11-2017, 05:09 PM
:lol the better 2018 looks for dems
:lol special elections failure
10-15 point swings win a lot of seats in 2018
im sure youll be doing everything you can to fight alongside mother russia to prevent it from happening, though. good luck!
Third thread where you shit pants.
You can ask questi:cryns but can't answ:cryr.
It's amusing watching you follow me around and bump old threads after being ignored. I never thought you were RandomGuy's sock but I'm starting to come around to it after noticing the same patterns.
djohn2oo8
07-11-2017, 05:10 PM
884887645364604929
CNN late again. Mueller has the emails. and Meeting transcripts.
spurraider21
07-11-2017, 05:10 PM
:lol thinking people do jail time for breaking campaign finance laws.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinesh_D%27Souza
not quite prison, but still, this was small beans
Adam Lambert
07-11-2017, 05:11 PM
In person meeting by son, son-in-law and campaign manager with representative explicitly said to be working with Russian government in support of Trump.
Explain how exactly same.
you really should answer this since the clinton meeting is so important to you.
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 05:12 PM
It's amusing watching you follow me around and bump old threads after being ignored. I never thought you were RandomGuy's sock but I'm starting to come around to it after noticing the same patterns.Amusing to watch you run and hide in three threads when asked simple questi:cryns.
Why not just answer?
We're right here in this thread and you're asking everyone else questi:cryns.
Why can't you answer?
10-15 point swings win a lot of seats in 2018
im sure youll be doing everything you can to fight alongside mother russia to prevent it from happening, though. good luck!
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/05/09/how_bad_is_the_democratic_senate_map_for_2018_1338 23.html
good luck!
Amusing to watch you run and hide in three threads when asked simple questi:cryns.
Why not just answer?
Why hide behind a sock if you want real discussion?
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 05:15 PM
Why hide behind a sock if you want real discussion?That's what makes you afraid to answer simple questi:cryns?
you really should answer this since the clinton meeting is so important to you.
they aren't exactly the same. One campaign actually worked with a foreign government and got opposition research and paid a foreign national for opposition research, the other campaign tried to get opposition research from a foreign national and came up empty.
djohn2oo8
07-11-2017, 05:19 PM
884884789978943488
:lmao
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 05:22 PM
they aren't exactly the same. One campaign actually worked with a foreign government and got opposition research and paid a foreign national for opposition research, the other campaign tried to get opposition research from a foreign national and came up empty.Explain who "actually worked with" a foreign government and what that work was and explain who "paid a foreign national."
Unless you terrified of s:cryck.
Spurminator
07-11-2017, 05:24 PM
Was it wrong for the DNC to work with the Ukrainian government and pay a British national for opposition research?
I don't know enough about it to say, but possibly.
Did that opposition research involve anything illegal, like hacking?
Honestly, since Britain and the Ukraine are our allies, it's certainly less concerning than a concerted and proactive effort by Russia to put a friendly candidate in the office of the President, especially given what we know about their other efforts. But illegal is illegal, and if they broke the law then I hope justice is served.
Chris
07-11-2017, 05:25 PM
Why hide behind a sock if you want real discussion?
Why hide behind a sock if you want real discussion?
Why hide behind a sock if you want real discussion?
Why hide behind a sock if you want real discussion?
Why hide behind a sock if you want real discussion?
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 05:25 PM
884884789978943488
:lmaoThings looking up for Junior!
Adam Lambert
07-11-2017, 05:28 PM
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/05/09/how_bad_is_the_democratic_senate_map_for_2018_1338 23.html
good luck!
oh now we trust rcp again. cool, they do good work.
long time before 2018.
I don't know enough about it to say, but possibly.
Did that opposition research involve anything illegal, like hacking?
Honestly, since Britain and the Ukraine are our allies, it's certainly less concerning than a concerted and proactive effort by Russia to put a friendly candidate in the office of the President. But illegal is illegal, and if they broke the law then I hope justice is served.
All I am asking for is for the law to be applied equally. Both campaigns appear to have broken campaign finance laws.
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 05:36 PM
All I am asking for is for the law to be applied equally. Both campaigns appear to have broken campaign finance laws.Explain who in each campaign broke laws.
https://s.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/4lODhdnStwPSj263d3BniQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW15O3c9NjQwO3E9NzU7c209MQ--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/homerun/feed_manager_auto_publish_494/0db46781fa0c08b037e95e995eb42907
Interesting...Veselnitskaya was connected to Fusion GPS. I will literally laugh my ass off if it is discovered this was a set up by Fusion GPS paid for by the DNC
Explain who in each campaign broke laws.
Log in to your original account and let us proceed...
clambake
07-11-2017, 05:39 PM
Log in to your original account and let us proceed...
i only have one account. you can tell me, no?
baseline bum
07-11-2017, 05:39 PM
884884789978943488
:lmao
:lmao
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 05:42 PM
Log in to your original account and let us proceed...TSA terrified of s:crycks.
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 05:43 PM
i only have one account. you can tell me, no?TSA refuse to answer any questions until all s:crycks gone!
Can still ask though.
You guys work fast. 3 more pages in under an hour. :lol
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 05:52 PM
You guys work fast. 3 more pages in under an hour. :lolIt mainly go like this:
[simple question]
http://31.media.tumblr.com/a2e65a8ef03c2270f6aeca02bf06e933/tumblr_numqg21U771ucw7ggo1_400.gif
hater
07-11-2017, 06:08 PM
Nah it usually goes like this:
"Trump and co are in so much trouble!! Haha"
(Nothing happens)
Nah it usually goes like this:
"Trump and co are in so much trouble!! Haha"
(Nothing happens)
250 pages worth :lol
tlongII
07-11-2017, 06:10 PM
TSA refuse to answer any questions until all s:crycks gone!
Can still ask though.
What was the collusion RG?
TSA terrified of s:crycks.
I think socks are cowardly.
Reveal your original account and I'll kill my account. Do we have a deal?
clambake
07-11-2017, 06:12 PM
What was the collusion RG?
i suggest we ask mueller.
Dershowitz: Did Donald Trump Jr. commit a crime or merely political sin? It depends
By Alan Dershowitz Published July 11, 2017 Fox News
Special Counsel Robert Mueller will surely be looking into the meeting between Donald Trump, Jr., and a Russian lawyer named Natalia Veselnitskaya. Part of the meeting was also attended by Jared Kushner, the president's son-in-law, and Paul Manafort, who at the time was running Trump’s campaign. It now seems clear from the emails that the Trump people went to the meeting expecting to be given dirt on Hillary Clinton from the Russian government. The question remains, if this is all true, is it criminal?
The first issue that must be addressed by Mueller is whether any existing criminal statutes would be violated by collusion between a campaign and a foreign government, if such collusion were to be proved? Unless there is a clear violation of an existing criminal statute, there would be no crime.
Obviously if anyone conspired in advance with another to commit a crime – such as hacking the DNC – that would be criminal. But merely seeking to obtain the work product of a prior hack would be no more criminal than a newspaper publishing the work product of thefts such as the Pentagon Papers and the material stolen by Snowden and Manning. Moreover, the emails sent to Trump Jr. say that the dirt peddled by Veselnitskaya came from “official documents.” No mention is made of hacking or other illegal activities. So it is unlikely that attendance at the meeting violated any criminal statute.
Perhaps mere collusion by a campaign with a foreign government should be made a crime, so as to prevent future contamination of our elections. But it is not currently a crime.
Whether or not such collusion, if it occurred, is a crime, it is clear that the American people have the right to know whether any sort of collusion –legal or illegal – took place. And, if so, what was its nature.
The Mueller investigation is limited to possible criminal activity. Probing the moral, political or other non-criminal implications of collusion with, or interference by, Russia is beyond the jurisdiction of the special counsel. It is the role of Congress, not the Criminal Division of the Justice Department, to make changes in existing laws. Perhaps mere collusion by a campaign with a foreign government should be made a crime, so as to prevent future contamination of our elections. But it is not currently a crime.
Nor will it be easy to draft a criminal statute prohibiting a campaign from using material provided by a foreign power, without trenching on the constitutional rights of candidates. But this is all up to Congress and the courts, not the special counsel, with his limited jurisdiction.
That is why the entire issue of alleged collusion with, and interference by, the Russians should be investigated openly by an independent nonpartisan commission, rather than by a prosecutor behind the closed doors of a grand jury.
The American people need to know precisely what the Russians tried to do and did – and what, if anything, the Trump campaign knew and did. These issues go beyond a cops-and-robber whodunit. They involve the very essence of our democracy.
The end result of a secret grand jury investigation will be an up or down determination whether to indict or not to indict. If there are no indictments, that will end the matter. The special counsel may issue a report summarizing the results of his investigation, but many experts believe that such reports are improper, since the subjects of the investigation do not have the right to present exculpatory evidence to the grand jury, which typically hears only one side of the case. Beyond any report, there will also be selective leaks, such as the many that have already occurred. Leaks, too, tend to be one-sided and agenda driven.
A public non-partisan commission investigation, or even one conducted by partisans in Congress, would be open for the most part. They would hear all sides of the story, and the public would be able to judge for itself whether there was improper collusion. A commission or Congressional committee could also recommend changes in the law for the future.
The American people need to know precisely what the Russians tried to do and did – and what, if anything, the Trump campaign knew and did. These issues go beyond a cops-and-robber whodunit. They involve the very essence of our democracy.
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 06:21 PM
I think socks are cowardly.
Reveal your original account and I'll kill my account. Do we have a deal?Your deal used to be you would answer question when poster answer your question.
What happen to that deal?
tlongII
07-11-2017, 06:24 PM
I think socks are cowardly.
Reveal your original account and I'll kill my account. Do we have a deal?
You don't need him to reveal his account. It's obviously RG.
Pavlov
07-11-2017, 06:26 PM
Dershowitz: Did Donald Trump Jr. commit a crime or merely political sin? It depends
By Alan Dershowitz Published July 11, 2017 Fox News
Special Counsel Robert Mueller will surely be looking into the meeting between Donald Trump, Jr., and a Russian lawyer named Natalia Veselnitskaya. Part of the meeting was also attended by Jared Kushner, the president's son-in-law, and Paul Manafort, who at the time was running Trump’s campaign. It now seems clear from the emails that the Trump people went to the meeting expecting to be given dirt on Hillary Clinton from the Russian government. The question remains, if this is all true, is it criminal?
The first issue that must be addressed by Mueller is whether any existing criminal statutes would be violated by collusion between a campaign and a foreign government, if such collusion were to be proved? Unless there is a clear violation of an existing criminal statute, there would be no crime.
Obviously if anyone conspired in advance with another to commit a crime – such as hacking the DNC – that would be criminal. But merely seeking to obtain the work product of a prior hack would be no more criminal than a newspaper publishing the work product of thefts such as the Pentagon Papers and the material stolen by Snowden and Manning. Moreover, the emails sent to Trump Jr. say that the dirt peddled by Veselnitskaya came from “official documents.” No mention is made of hacking or other illegal activities. So it is unlikely that attendance at the meeting violated any criminal statute.
Perhaps mere collusion by a campaign with a foreign government should be made a crime, so as to prevent future contamination of our elections. But it is not currently a crime.
Whether or not such collusion, if it occurred, is a crime, it is clear that the American people have the right to know whether any sort of collusion –legal or illegal – took place. And, if so, what was its nature.
The Mueller investigation is limited to possible criminal activity. Probing the moral, political or other non-criminal implications of collusion with, or interference by, Russia is beyond the jurisdiction of the special counsel. It is the role of Congress, not the Criminal Division of the Justice Department, to make changes in existing laws. Perhaps mere collusion by a campaign with a foreign government should be made a crime, so as to prevent future contamination of our elections. But it is not currently a crime.
Nor will it be easy to draft a criminal statute prohibiting a campaign from using material provided by a foreign power, without trenching on the constitutional rights of candidates. But this is all up to Congress and the courts, not the special counsel, with his limited jurisdiction.
That is why the entire issue of alleged collusion with, and interference by, the Russians should be investigated openly by an independent nonpartisan commission, rather than by a prosecutor behind the closed doors of a grand jury.
The American people need to know precisely what the Russians tried to do and did – and what, if anything, the Trump campaign knew and did. These issues go beyond a cops-and-robber whodunit. They involve the very essence of our democracy.
The end result of a secret grand jury investigation will be an up or down determination whether to indict or not to indict. If there are no indictments, that will end the matter. The special counsel may issue a report summarizing the results of his investigation, but many experts believe that such reports are improper, since the subjects of the investigation do not have the right to present exculpatory evidence to the grand jury, which typically hears only one side of the case. Beyond any report, there will also be selective leaks, such as the many that have already occurred. Leaks, too, tend to be one-sided and agenda driven.
A public non-partisan commission investigation, or even one conducted by partisans in Congress, would be open for the most part. They would hear all sides of the story, and the public would be able to judge for itself whether there was improper collusion. A commission or Congressional committee could also recommend changes in the law for the future.
The American people need to know precisely what the Russians tried to do and did – and what, if anything, the Trump campaign knew and did. These issues go beyond a cops-and-robber whodunit. They involve the very essence of our democracy.Kushy initially left meeting off SF-86. Mueller probably look at meeting because that.
spurraider21
07-11-2017, 06:26 PM
my guess would actually be chump but he doesn't post nearly frequently enough to fit the bill
plus chump was laid to rest at pulse nightclub tbh
benefactor
07-11-2017, 06:27 PM
:corn:
spurraider21
07-11-2017, 06:30 PM
actually i'm pretty sure pavlov is chump :lol
guess he was resurrected
actually i'm pretty sure pavlov is chump :lol
guess he was resurrected
Pavlov is actually funny.
spurraider21
07-11-2017, 06:36 PM
Pavlov is actually funny.
certainly the more entertaining version of chump
TimDunkem
07-11-2017, 06:36 PM
Yeah. They have the same posting style and everything. Pavlov is CumDumpster for sure.
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