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djohn2oo8
11-10-2017, 01:21 PM
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djohn2oo8
11-10-2017, 01:30 PM
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won't be the last time

Chucho
11-10-2017, 01:40 PM
:lol Religion makes you stupid as shit.


What's your excuse?

djohn2oo8
11-10-2017, 01:57 PM
929059304254115847

Chucho
11-10-2017, 02:24 PM
The irony of you referring to any living organism as stupid is enough irony to break this site.

You depend on others to think for you chuko, how worthless does one have to be to not be able to form an independent thought?


Definitely Boots' alt. Make sure you keep your Mom's corpse Febreez'd you sick, angry weirdo.

spurraider21
11-10-2017, 02:41 PM
Kidnapping? Get real for fucks sake

TSA
11-10-2017, 02:50 PM
Frivolous lawsuits never get that far. They do get smacked down, and hard.

That is a common fantasy of conspiracy theorists. "If I just sue them enough, I can get them under oath", but forget the part where you have to have, you know, a case.

He’s been at the forefront of exposing the Awan scandal for over a year. He’s got a case.

Pavlov
11-10-2017, 02:55 PM
He’s been at the forefront of exposing the Awan scandal for over a year. He’s got a case.What's his case?

Give me an overview of it in your own words.

TSA
11-10-2017, 02:56 PM
http://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2017/11/10/professor-misfud-robertson-pkg.cnn

:wow

Chucho
11-10-2017, 03:02 PM
Jesus Christ you’re ducks level retarded

And you're Boots' levels of dumb fuckery.

Chucho
11-10-2017, 03:03 PM
http://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2017/11/10/professor-misfud-robertson-pkg.cnn

:wow

#fakenews

RandomGuy
11-10-2017, 03:09 PM
Kidnapping? Get real for fucks sake

Yeah, that is a huge stretch. Renditions are not kidnapping.

Anyone who thinks that is engaging in some wishful thinking, IMO. What would happen more is something related to the conflict of interest, which has a host of legal landmines.

Pavlov
11-10-2017, 03:10 PM
http://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2017/11/10/professor-misfud-robertson-pkg.cnn

:wowDid you watch the video? I don't think you did.

boutons_deux
11-10-2017, 03:10 PM
http://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2017/11/10/professor-misfud-robertson-pkg.cnn

:wow

.... will probably show up in Moscow

RandomGuy
11-10-2017, 03:11 PM
He’s been at the forefront of exposing the Awan scandal for over a year. He’s got a case.

I am going to guess not a $900,000,000 case.

The kinds of lawsuits conspiratards tend to file get squashed early with slam dunk motions to dismiss. Feel free to support that "he's got a case" with actual evidence. If I felt like fuckin with your dumb ass I might dig a little to find the judges' ruling when that happens.

Pavlov
11-10-2017, 03:13 PM
I am going to guess not a $900,000,000 case.

The kinds of lawsuits conspiratards tend to file get squashed early with slam dunk motions to dismiss. Feel free to support that "he's got a case" with actual evidence. If I felt like fuckin with your dumb ass I might dig a little to find the judges' ruling when that happens.Dude, he has been at the forefront of dirty bomb port protection from Zanesville, Ohio for years.

WAKE UP

TSA
11-10-2017, 03:16 PM
I am going to guess not a $900,000,000 case.

The kinds of lawsuits conspiratards tend to file get squashed early with slam dunk motions to dismiss. Feel free to support that "he's got a case" with actual evidence. If I felt like fuckin with your dumb ass I might dig a little to find the judges' ruling when that happens.

929031526272159744

Pavlov
11-10-2017, 03:18 PM
929031526272159744


What's his case?

Give me an overview of it in your own words.

TSA
11-10-2017, 03:19 PM
What's his case?

Give me an overview of it in your own words.

Here is one of his cases.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/13G80ZFhAu5QbsYcDNnjlQARZ5fGI1j7VE59w7Vo3mLQ/mobilebasic

Funny that the media portrays the registered democrat as a far right conspiracist

Pavlov
11-10-2017, 03:20 PM
Here is one of his cases.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/13G80ZFhAu5QbsYcDNnjlQARZ5fGI1j7VE59w7Vo3mLQ/mobilebasic

Funny that the media portrays the registered democrat as a far right conspiracistDodge #1.

You didn't answer the question.

What's his case?

Give me an overview of it in your own words.

TSA
11-10-2017, 03:20 PM
F5 F5 F5 F5

Take your meds and relax for fucks sake

RandomGuy
11-10-2017, 03:20 PM
.... will probably show up in Moscow

He will show up in a river, if he lives. Russians are not squeamish about tying up loose ends.


His associate told CNN that Mifsud had introduced the woman to him as a Russian journalist, one of several he'd met during his dealings with the Russians. The associate says he warned Mifsud about the danger of being played by the Russians.
For the most popular talk-show on Russian television, Mifsud's activities are now the object of ridicule. On Sunday, the show's host, Dmitry Kiselev, said that Papadopoulos was introduced to the fictional Putin niece by "a fly-by Maltese professor called Joseph Mifsud, a retired bottom-feeder diplomat."

They are throwing him under the bus, quite possibly in the literal sense.

TSA
11-10-2017, 03:20 PM
Dodge #1.

You didn't answer the question.

What's his case?

Give me an overview of it in your own words.

Read it yourself you lazy fuck

Pavlov
11-10-2017, 03:21 PM
Read it yourself you lazy fuckYou haven't read it, have you?

TSA
11-10-2017, 03:22 PM
He will show up in a river, if he lives. Russians are not squeamish about tying up loose ends.



They are throwing him under the bus, quite possibly in the literal sense.
How much do you know about Misfud’s donations to the Clinton Foundation?

Pavlov
11-10-2017, 03:43 PM
He’s been at the forefront of exposing the Awan scandal for over a year. He’s got a case.He was at the forefront of this conspiracy thread of yours too. The forefront being the video in your OP.

www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=265355

Did you ever find out what happened to Eric Braverman, TSA?

RandomGuy
11-10-2017, 03:44 PM
18 hours ago - This is realted to pizzagate because Podesta has been under intense scrutiny by the pizzagate community for suspected pedophilia.

"pizzagate community" holy fuck.... :lmao

RandomGuy
11-10-2017, 03:52 PM
You haven't read it, have you?

Prolly not. He would have to clean off his keyboard if he had.

"spy ring" bla bla bla. It is exactly the conspiracy that he has been alleging. Either TSA is this guy Sweigert, or TSA and 4chan have been hanging on his every word.

RandomGuy
11-10-2017, 03:53 PM
How much do you know about Misfud’s donations to the Clinton Foundation?

Counting the number of fucks I give about that would take an infinitesimally small amount of time.

RandomGuy
11-10-2017, 03:58 PM
https://www.unitedstatescourts.org/federal/dcd/190971/

Court District of the District of Columbia
Docket number 1:17-cv-02330
Date case filed 2017-11-06
Date case closed
Date of latest filing 2017-11-08
Assigned to Judge Tanya S. Chutkan
Case cause 28:1391 Personal Injury
Nature of suit 370 Other Fraud
Jury demand Plaintiff
Demand
Jurisdiction U.S. Government Defendant




TSA's google doc link didn't have the exhibits.

The PDF complaint here does.

"In my experience as a journalist, I believe the Prosecution to be obstructing justice in this case, and I call for the Court to allow me to stand in the shoes of the Prosecution..."

It cites as evidence "the Daily caller reported"...


The judge is going to take a giant shit on this, and likely censure this guy for wasting the courts time.


Fox news story about Donna Brazile. "I found proof the DNC rigged".... [this is the definition of hearsay, btw-RG]

I shit you not.

:rollin


WOW.

Make that a SUPER GIANT SHIT.

Then the judge going to get out the hammer.

:ban:

djohn2oo8
11-10-2017, 04:11 PM
Yeah, that is a huge stretch. Renditions are not kidnapping.

Anyone who thinks that is engaging in some wishful thinking, IMO. What would happen more is something related to the conflict of interest, which has a host of legal landmines.

Except the proposed plan was illegal.

Pavlov
11-10-2017, 04:17 PM
Read it yourself you lazy fuckNow I know you haven't read it.

It's simply insane.

This guy lost it a long time ago. If you keep pimping his conspiracies, you've lost it too. I propose you keep all your conspiracies in separate threads so you and we can see everything you believe in total. It really looks like you're just trying to muddy the waters ITT.

boutons_deux
11-10-2017, 05:11 PM
Hilarious article by The Onion

Firm founded by KGB spy to guard US Moscow embassy

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41947030 (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41947030)

boutons_deux
11-10-2017, 06:09 PM
Shady data mining firm sought Clinton dirt from WikiLeaks right after getting hired by Trump

The CEO of Cambridge Analytica, the secretive data firm owned in part by Republican megadonor Robert Mercer that was hired by the Trump campaign,

reportedly reached out to WikiLeaks for dirt on Hillary Clinton in early June 2016 — soon after the campaign hired them.

CA’s chief executive Alexander Nix had “the office that handles his speaking engagements” reach out to WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange in “early June 2016” after reading reports that the organization intended to publish a trove of Clinton’s emails.

Though Federal Elections Commission records show that CA didn’t receive any payments from the Trump campaign until late July 2016,

the Journal‘s investigation shows that Nix’s request to Assange “came as the company was in the advanced stages of contract negotiations with the campaign and had already dispatched employees to help it.”

Soon after then-campaign adviser Steve Bannon introduced Nix to the Trump campaign in May,

CA sent employees to San Antonio, Texas, the home of then-candidate Donald Trump’s digital operations, in early June. A contract followed them on June 13, 2016, and was signed on June 23.

On June 12, the day prior to the contract being shipped, Nix told British TV that he had emails related to Clinton that were “pending publication,”

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/shady-data-mining-firm-sought-clinton-dirt-from-wikileaks-right-after-getting-hired-by-trump/

I still bet Kushner exchanged demographic data with Mercer's CA, and that CA gave such data to Pootin's hacker army.

Chris
11-11-2017, 12:23 AM
Mueller guilty of treason, unbelievable people here defend him because of partisan politics tbh...

bwIQlh4xlos

spurraider21
11-11-2017, 03:27 AM
Mueller guilty of treason, unbelievable people here defend him because of partisan politics tbh...

bwIQlh4xlos
:lmao "i watch documentaries"

boutons_deux
11-11-2017, 08:52 AM
Former FBI counter-spy on Mueller, Trump and Putin: “Russia is winning”

Naveed Jamali was a double agent battling Russian intelligence. He says their plans have worked brilliantly

Manafort himself offered to work for Trump for free.

So where was he making his money? I think that one can logically infer that the Russians were still paying his meal ticket -- or he at least he saw that as where his meal ticket was going to get paid, going forward.

Russia's goal was to build a relationship ,with the intent of recruiting people to become their assets. This was done with the lure being Hillary Clinton's email. This was done with Peter W. Smith, the Republican operative who committed suicide (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-peter-smith-death-met-0713-20170713-story.html) [last May, shortly after an interview with the Wall Street Journal]

It seems very clear that the Russians were using the prospect of giving Trump dirt on Hillary Clinton as part of their effort to make contact with people within the Trump's inner circle.

This is also a clear sign that the Russians tried to recruit Papadopoulos. He had several meetings with them across both Moscow and London. To me, that indicates there is a strong likelihood that Papadopoulos was in fact a Russian asset.

With Manafort, look to the money.

In counterintelligence and espionage there is an acronym called MICE. These are the four pillars of motivation for espionage: money, ideology, coercion, ego. With Manafort it was all about money.

These are people who wanted to win at all costs, and believed that this information was something they could get that would help secure the presidency for Trump.

this pattern demonstrates an attempt by the Russians to recruit U.S. persons to support their operational intent to undermine our country.

I think the biggest problem we have with Manafort and Gates is that there are alleged criminal activities which predate the campaign, especially the Ukrainian money-laundering operation.

That is something which will be used to parry and deflect. But ultimately it does not matter if these events happened before the presidential campaign. They are still a crime.

It also shows that

Manafort is a man who has been a campaign manager and likely a money launderer for the Russians.

He should never have been in that position [on the Trump campaign] to begin with. At best,

Donald Trump could just plead ignorance, that he didn’t do his due diligence. Again, this doesn’t make him look any better.

I think that Donald Trump was not fully aware of a lot of these intricacies. I think he was not aware of them simply because of the Russians. The Russians were very smart about this, in terms of figuring out how to recruit people.

They rightfully characterized Trump as someone who is not suitable to be an asset

the better strategy for the Russians would have been to target those around him, such as Flynn, Kushner, Manafort and so on.

What that does, though, is to give Donald Trump some plausible deniability.

Ultimately responsibility rests with Trump, whether there's criminal activity directly associated with Russia or not, because this was his show. He should have known what's going on. :lol but Trash is a Russian asset!

Did Trump bring them here because of incompetence, or did he bring them here for some ulterior motive?

It matters because this was

a sophisticated campaign by a foreign intelligence service to attack and undermine the United States of America.

Look, if we had said ISIS attempted to attack us, and U.S. persons were supporting them in that campaign, people at Fox News would be freaked out. They should be just as freaked out, even if it is not ISIS and it is in fact Russia.

One would say logically that the president of the United States wouldn’t do that, but

Donald Trump has so far shown a complete and utter lack of grasp of logic. :lol

I think the strategy that Mueller has employed is a brilliant one. He is essentially setting the stage to encourage people to voluntarily come forward and talk. That is what he did with these two indictments. There was one guilty plea, and also maybe an additional indictment or a request to compel an attorney to speak.

But at the end of the day this is still

a counterintelligence investigation into how the Russians launched a sophisticated attack against us,

and who in the United States -- I mean specifically in Donald Trump's presidential campaign -- helped them do that.

It is disconcerting because of the question you asked about the Fox News viewers.

Fox/conservative bubble time:

There is going to be 30 percent of the country

that no matter what evidence is wheeled out,

what logic is presented,

whatever facts are raised,

whatever irrefutable evidence comes forward,

will refuse to believe that any of this is true. They will think it is supposedly "fake news."

The Russians planned an operation and Americans said yes to their overtures. What bothers me, and what keeps me up at night, is the fact that people do not seem to want to hear that. They seem completely unwilling to believe that this is anything but a Russian operation. They seem fixated on this being some kind of Democratic plot. It's maddening.

The reality is that Russia is winning. We are talking about something which occurred, at its latest, over a year ago. This means that whatever the Russians did, they have had a year to figure out what they're going to do next. They have suffered no consequences, so why wouldn’t Russia continue with this strategy? They'll have at least a year's head start on us. We have not even begun to discuss how the Russians were able to plan and execute such an operation.

We're not talking about the holes that existed for the Russians to exploit.

https://www.salon.com/2017/11/10/former-fbi-counter-spy-on-mueller-trump-and-putin-russia-is-winning/

Fox and right wing hate media lying to its audience that the Russians are innocent, and Mueller's operation is Dem partisan bullshit, really means the Fox and the right wing hate media are traitors, are actually Pootin/Russian assets.

and the Big Orange Turd shakes hands with Pootin in Vietnam, and then tells the world that Pootin is telling the truth that Russians did not meddle with the USA.

boutons_deux
11-11-2017, 09:30 AM
Mike Flynn forced his way into the Trump administration by crashing a private Trump Tower meeting

Christie had “deep reservations” about Flynn, whom vetting had concluded “suffered from poor judgement and espoused far-out ideas on foreign policy.”

The vetting was trashed, literally, by Trump strategist Steve Bannon, who threw binders of potential nominations “into trash bins with a sense of ceremonial glee.”

Shortly after the election, Flynn “crashed” a meeting on the 25th floor of Trump Tower, attended by Christie, Bannon, Rick Dearborn, Jeff Sessions, Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner, Eric Trump and Donald Trump Jr.

Ivanka reportedly praised Flynn’s campaigning and loyalty, asking what role he would like in the administration. :lol

Flynn responded he wanted to be Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense, or National Security Advisor.

And by mid-November, Flynn had the job of National Security Advisor,

unleashing a chain of events that now threatens to end the Trump administration. :lol Thanks, Ivanka! :lol

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/mike-flynn-crashed-a-trump-tower-meeting-and-ended-up-being-national-security-advisor/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/mike-flynn-crashed-a-trump-tower-meeting-and-ended-up-being-national-security-advisor/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)

Bannon is one nasty, dangerous, subversive, destructive motherfucker

djohn2oo8
11-11-2017, 11:20 AM
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DMX7
11-11-2017, 02:18 PM
This whole administration is going to begin imploding once Flynn starts talking. Shit is about to get real. :wow

boutons_deux
11-11-2017, 02:21 PM
929364280264273920

Pootin could have remained silent, let Trash have his LIES, but by countering Trash's self-serving LIES, Pootin crushed him.

By LYING that Pootin was pissed that Some Say Pootin meddled, Pootin denying that he meddles, Trash is implying that Trash couldn't possibly have colluded with Pootin's non-meddling.

boutons_deux
11-11-2017, 02:25 PM
https://images.dailykos.com/images/468128/story_image/11-02-2017-mcfadden-KOS.png?1509660262

boutons_deux
11-11-2017, 02:40 PM
InfoWars republished over 1,000 articles from Russian-sponsoredRT—without permission (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/8/1713974/-InfoWars-republished-over-1-000-articles-from-Russian-sponsored-RT-without-permission)

https://images.dailykos.com/images/447819/story_image/Screen_Shot_2017-09-11_at_12.16.34_PM.png?1505157426

According to data from social sharing tracking website BuzzSumo (https://app.buzzsumo.com/research/most-shared?num_days=1825&result_type=total&general_article&infographic&video&how_to_article&what_post&why_post&list&page=1&q=author:RT&type=articles&domains=infowars.com),

there were at least 1,014 RT articles republished on InfoWars since May of 2014.

The articles appeared on InfoWars with a byline credit to RT,

but a spokesperson for the Russian broadcaster told BuzzFeed News that InfoWars did not have permission to re-publish its content.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/8/1713974/-InfoWars-republished-over-1-000-articles-from-Russian-sponsored-RT-without-permission?detail=emaildkre

So Alex Jones is yet another "conservative" working as a "Pootin Asset" pushing Russian propaganda.

Spurminator
11-11-2017, 02:47 PM
929371865713319936

He's Putin's bitch.

boutons_deux
11-11-2017, 02:51 PM
929371865713319936

He's Putin's bitch.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOWqWunWsAAuJN5?format=jpg

djohn2oo8
11-11-2017, 03:09 PM
929371865713319936

He's Putin's bitch.

And Putin is ready to dump that motherfucker.

boutons_deux
11-11-2017, 03:11 PM
Political hack Pompeo turning on Trash and his lies?

CIA: Director 'stands by' Russian interference assessment

The CIA on Saturday said its director, Mike Pompeo, "stands by" the intelligence community's declassified report that concluded Russia ran an influence campaign aimed at helping President Trump win the White House in 2016.

"The director stands by and has always stood by the January 2017 intelligence community assessment entitled:

'Assessing Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent U.S. Elections.'

The intelligence assessment with regard to Russian election meddling has not changed," a spokesperson for the agency said in a statement.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/cia-director-stands-by-russian-interference-assessment/ar-BBEQDht

boutons_deux
11-11-2017, 03:14 PM
Moron President Trump Celebrates Veterans Day By Telling America To Stop Insulting Putin


http://15130-presscdn-0-89.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/trump-putin-apec-701x500.jpg

At press gaggle aboard Air Force One,

Trump marked Veterans Day

by claiming that he believes Putin when he tells him that Russia didn’t interfere in the election, and

saying that Russia tried to undermine US democracy is an insult to Putin.

Here is the transcript from the White House pool report as provided to PoliticusUSA:

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/11/11/moron-president-trump-celebrates-veterans-day-telling-america-stop-insulting-putin.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

boutons_deux
11-11-2017, 04:34 PM
Russia First: Trump Admits He Trusts Putin Over The Entire U.S. Intelligence Community

"Every time he sees me, he says, 'I didn't do that.' And I believe, I really believe, that when he tells me that, he means it."

In another stunning example of just how far this president will go to please the Russians that helped elect him last year, Donald Trump admitted on Saturday that he trusts Vladimir Putin when he denies any involvement in last year’s presidential election.

“He said he didn’t meddle. He said he didn’t meddle. I asked him again. You can only ask so many times,”

Trump said aboard Air Force One, according to CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/11/politics/president-donald-trump-vladimir-putin-election-meddling/index.html).

He continued: “Every time he sees me, he says,

‘I didn’t do that.’

And I believe, I really believe, that when he tells me that, he means it.”

“I think he is very insulted by it,”

Trump added.

Putin, a shrewd former KGB officer, has clearly figured out a way to get Trump to believe anything he’ll say, but the U.S. intelligence community – and the American people – have long understood that Russia was, in fact, behind the hack in last year’s presidential election.

As David Corn noted in a tweet on Saturday, every major agency in Trump’s own intelligence community believes Putin and Russia were behind the attack.


(https://twitter.com/DavidCornDC/status/929356451784658944)
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/431276795216678912/K9GgLuad_normal.pngDavid Corn (https://twitter.com/DavidCornDC)

(https://twitter.com/DavidCornDC)✔@DavidCornDC (https://twitter.com/DavidCornDC)


CIA chief Mike Pompeo: Putin attacked 2016 election.

DNI Dan Coats: Putin attacked 2016 election.

FBI director Christopher Wray: Putin attacked 2016 election.

NSA head Mike Rogers: Putin attacked 2016 election.

Putin: I did not attack 2016 election.

Trump: I believe Putin.

8:33 AM - Nov 11, 2017 (https://twitter.com/DavidCornDC/status/929356451784658944)


http://www.politicususa.com/2017/11/11/trump-admits-takes-vladimir-putins-word-entire-u-s-intelligence-community.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

boutons_deux
11-11-2017, 06:58 PM
Trump’s defense of Putin lends ‘credence to theory that dementia is in the mix’: Frank Rich

An executive producer of HBO’s “Veep” and New York Magazine writer-at-large said Saturday that there was now more evidence to suggest that President Donald Trump was suffering from a cognitive impairment.

“Trump’s wildly self-incriminating Russia/Putin statements also lend credence to theory that dementia is in the mix,” Frank Rich said Saturday on Twitter.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/841434489737887745/um0XDREU_normal.jpgFrank Rich (https://twitter.com/frankrichny)


(https://twitter.com/frankrichny)✔@frankrichny (https://twitter.com/frankrichny)


Trump’s wildly self-incriminating Russia/Putin statements also lend credence to theory that dementia is in the mix.

https://twitter.com/tonyschwartz/status/929427783813496832 … (https://t.co/g28aoZNmaH)
2:04 PM - Nov 11, 2017 (https://twitter.com/frankrichny/status/929439601185435648)


https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/trumps-defense-of-putin-lends-credence-to-theory-that-dementia-is-in-the-mix-frank-rich/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

boutons_deux
11-11-2017, 07:21 PM
Trump: ‘People will die’ because of the Russia investigation

"People will die because of it, and it’s a pure hit job," Trump said aboard Air Force One.

On Saturday, President Donald Trump said that “people will die” because of the Department of Justice and Congress’s investigations into Russian interference in the 2016 election.

“This artificial Democratic hit job gets in the way,” Trump told reporters (https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/11/trump-russia-putin-transcript-244804) aboard Air Force One on the way to Hanoi, Vietnam.

“It gets in the way. And that’s a shame. Because people will die because of it. And it’s a pure hit job. And it’s artificially induced. And that’s [a] shame.”

There was no collusion,” :lol

Trump reportedly continued while speaking to reporters on Saturday.

“Everybody knows there was no collusion. :lol

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-people-will-die-russia-investigation-5a59594beedb/

simple vocabulary, simple "sentence" structure, his brain is fried, Mr President Of the United Fucking States! fuck yeah! :lol

boutons_deux
11-11-2017, 07:47 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/925105891044745216/qZVnNnWB_normal.jpgJames Comey (https://twitter.com/Comey)
(https://twitter.com/Comey)✔@Comey (https://twitter.com/Comey)


“If you want truth to go round the world you must hire an express train to pull it;

but if you want a lie to go round the world, it will fly;

it is light as a feather and a breath will carry it.”

Rev. Charles Haddon Spurgeon (1855).
9:36 AM - Nov 11, 2017 (https://twitter.com/Comey/status/929372249227919360)

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(https://twitter.com/Comey)https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOXLIe5XcAAIis2.jpg
James Comey (https://twitter.com/Comey)
(https://twitter.com/Comey)✔@Comey (https://twitter.com/Comey)

Replying to @Comey (https://twitter.com/_/status/929372249227919360)

I included the picture of the Great Falls of the Potomac because I like it and because it reminds me of my favorite scripture verse, from Amos:

“But let justice roll down like waters and righteousness like an ever-flowing stream.”

2:12 PM - Nov 11, 2017 (https://twitter.com/Comey/status/929441792944148480)

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/james-comey-sends-trump-a-message-about-about-truth-and-lies/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Comey is quite the troll :lol

boutons_deux
11-12-2017, 12:11 AM
Just fucking :lol

Trump sides with U.S. intelligence agencies on Russian meddling

U.S. President Donald Trump said on Sunday he sided with U.S. intelligence agencies, under their current leadership, when it came to Russian meddling in last year’s U.S. election. :lol

He was speaking a day after meeting Russian President Vladimir Putin and saying he believed the Russian leader when he denied accusations that Russia meddled, despite U.S. intelligence agencies’ conclusion of Russian interference. :lol

“As to whether I believe it or not, I’m with our agencies, especially as currently constituted,” Trump told a news conference in Vietnam. “As currently led, by fine people, I believe very much in our intelligence agencies.”

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-trump-asia-usa-russia/trump-sides-with-u-s-intelligence-agencies-on-russian-meddling-idUSKBN1DC031?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FtopNews+%28News+%2F +US+%2F+Top+News%29

:lol

I believe my BFF very hurt Vlad that he didn't meddle

I believe US IC that Vlad did meddle

:lol

boutons_deux
11-12-2017, 12:41 PM
Former U.S. intelligence officials: Trump being ‘played’ by Putin

Two top former U.S. intelligence officials said Sunday that President Trump is being “played” by President Vladi*mir Putin on Russia’s interference in the 2016 election and accused him of being susceptible to foreign leaders who stroke his ego.
“By not confronting the issue directly and not acknowledging to Putin that we know you’re responsible for this, I think he’s giving Putin a pass,”

“I think it demonstrates to Mr. Putin that Donald Trump can be played by foreign leaders who are going to appeal to his ego and try to play upon his insecurities, which is very, very worrisome from a national security standpoint.”

former director of national intelligence James R. Clapper Jr. said he agrees with that assessment.

“He seems very susceptible to rolling out the red carpet and honor guards and all the trappings and pomp and circumstance that come with the office, and I think that appeals to him, and I think it plays to his insecurities,”

In his earlier remarks to reporters, Trump also referred to Brennan and Clapper as “political hacks.” Brennan said Sunday that he considers Trump’s characterization “a badge of honor.”

Brennan said. “Putin is committed to undermining our system, our democracy and our whole process. And to try paint it in any other way is, I think, astounding, and, in fact, poses a peril to this country.”


Steven Mnuchin came to Trump’s defense, brushing aside the comments of Brennan and Clapper.
“Those were the most ridiculous statements,” Mnuchin said. “President Trump is not getting played by anybody.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/11/12/former-u-s-intelligence-officials-trump-being-played-by-putin/?undefined=&utm_term=.2a62d47af577&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

boutons_deux
11-12-2017, 01:12 PM
Mueller Immediately Closes Investigation After Hearing Putin Proclaim His Innocence

https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5a086b94f2a3325e0d953bf8/master/w_1626,c_limit/Borowitz-Mueller-Immediately-Closes-Investigation.jpg


WASHINGTON —The special counsel Robert Mueller announced on Saturday that he was closing the Justice Department’s Russia investigation, “effective immediately,” after hearing that President Vladimir Putin, of Russia, said he was innocent of any election meddling.

Moments after learning about Putin’s assertion, Mueller hastily assembled his staff of investigators to inform them that,

now that Putin had fully exonerated himself, there was no point in continuing the probe.

“Vladimir Putin says he did nothing,” Mueller told his staff. “That’s good enough for me.”

Speaking later to reporters, Mueller said that, by disbanding his investigation,

he was following the time-honored law-enforcement tradition of taking a suspect’s word for it.

“For the past several months, we’ve assembled tax records, cell-phone recordings, bank transfers, and e-mail communications that indicated Russia was involved in the election,”

a visibly shaken Mueller said.

“Somehow, we got it wrong—very, very wrong.”

As for his future plans, Mueller said that his first order of business was to write a hearfelt letter of apology to Putin.

“I feel terrible knowing that I’ve spent all this time investigating a person who did absolutely nothing wrong,” he said.

“Hindsight is 20/20, but I really should have called him first and asked him what really happened.”

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/mueller-immediately-closes-investigation-after-hearing-putin-proclaim-his-innocence (https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/mueller-immediately-closes-investigation-after-hearing-putin-proclaim-his-innocence)

djohn2oo8
11-12-2017, 01:17 PM
929699050089254913
So much winning.

boutons_deux
11-12-2017, 01:32 PM
929699050089254913
So much winning.

pro-Russian / anti-Ukraine plank changing was apparently the ONLY change Trash's team required.

RandomGuy
11-13-2017, 01:18 PM
Former FBI counter-spy on Mueller, Trump and Putin: “Russia is winning”

Naveed Jamali was a double agent battling Russian intelligence. He says their plans have worked brilliantly

Manafort himself offered to work for Trump for free.

So where was he making his money? I think that one can logically infer that the Russians were still paying his meal ticket -- or he at least he saw that as where his meal ticket was going to get paid, going forward.

Russia's goal was to build a relationship ,with the intent of recruiting people to become their assets. This was done with the lure being Hillary Clinton's email. This was done with Peter W. Smith, the Republican operative who committed suicide (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-peter-smith-death-met-0713-20170713-story.html) [last May, shortly after an interview with the Wall Street Journal]

It seems very clear that the Russians were using the prospect of giving Trump dirt on Hillary Clinton as part of their effort to make contact with people within the Trump's inner circle.

This is also a clear sign that the Russians tried to recruit Papadopoulos. He had several meetings with them across both Moscow and London. To me, that indicates there is a strong likelihood that Papadopoulos was in fact a Russian asset.

With Manafort, look to the money.

In counterintelligence and espionage there is an acronym called MICE. These are the four pillars of motivation for espionage: money, ideology, coercion, ego. With Manafort it was all about money.

These are people who wanted to win at all costs, and believed that this information was something they could get that would help secure the presidency for Trump.

this pattern demonstrates an attempt by the Russians to recruit U.S. persons to support their operational intent to undermine our country.

I think the biggest problem we have with Manafort and Gates is that there are alleged criminal activities which predate the campaign, especially the Ukrainian money-laundering operation.

That is something which will be used to parry and deflect. But ultimately it does not matter if these events happened before the presidential campaign. They are still a crime.

It also shows that

Manafort is a man who has been a campaign manager and likely a money launderer for the Russians.

He should never have been in that position [on the Trump campaign] to begin with. At best,

Donald Trump could just plead ignorance, that he didn’t do his due diligence. Again, this doesn’t make him look any better.

I think that Donald Trump was not fully aware of a lot of these intricacies. I think he was not aware of them simply because of the Russians. The Russians were very smart about this, in terms of figuring out how to recruit people.

They rightfully characterized Trump as someone who is not suitable to be an asset

the better strategy for the Russians would have been to target those around him, such as Flynn, Kushner, Manafort and so on.

What that does, though, is to give Donald Trump some plausible deniability.

Ultimately responsibility rests with Trump, whether there's criminal activity directly associated with Russia or not, because this was his show. He should have known what's going on. :lol but Trash is a Russian asset!

Did Trump bring them here because of incompetence, or did he bring them here for some ulterior motive?

It matters because this was

a sophisticated campaign by a foreign intelligence service to attack and undermine the United States of America.

Look, if we had said ISIS attempted to attack us, and U.S. persons were supporting them in that campaign, people at Fox News would be freaked out. They should be just as freaked out, even if it is not ISIS and it is in fact Russia.

One would say logically that the president of the United States wouldn’t do that, but

Donald Trump has so far shown a complete and utter lack of grasp of logic. :lol

I think the strategy that Mueller has employed is a brilliant one. He is essentially setting the stage to encourage people to voluntarily come forward and talk. That is what he did with these two indictments. There was one guilty plea, and also maybe an additional indictment or a request to compel an attorney to speak.

But at the end of the day this is still

a counterintelligence investigation into how the Russians launched a sophisticated attack against us,

and who in the United States -- I mean specifically in Donald Trump's presidential campaign -- helped them do that.

It is disconcerting because of the question you asked about the Fox News viewers.

Fox/conservative bubble time:

There is going to be 30 percent of the country

that no matter what evidence is wheeled out,

what logic is presented,

whatever facts are raised,

whatever irrefutable evidence comes forward,

will refuse to believe that any of this is true. They will think it is supposedly "fake news."

The Russians planned an operation and Americans said yes to their overtures. What bothers me, and what keeps me up at night, is the fact that people do not seem to want to hear that. They seem completely unwilling to believe that this is anything but a Russian operation. They seem fixated on this being some kind of Democratic plot. It's maddening.

The reality is that Russia is winning. We are talking about something which occurred, at its latest, over a year ago. This means that whatever the Russians did, they have had a year to figure out what they're going to do next. They have suffered no consequences, so why wouldn’t Russia continue with this strategy? They'll have at least a year's head start on us. We have not even begun to discuss how the Russians were able to plan and execute such an operation.

We're not talking about the holes that existed for the Russians to exploit.

https://www.salon.com/2017/11/10/former-fbi-counter-spy-on-mueller-trump-and-putin-russia-is-winning/

Fox and right wing hate media lying to its audience that the Russians are innocent, and Mueller's operation is Dem partisan bullshit, really means the Fox and the right wing hate media are traitors, are actually Pootin/Russian assets.

and the Big Orange Turd shakes hands with Pootin in Vietnam, and then tells the world that Pootin is telling the truth that Russians did not meddle with the USA.



Sums it up.

RandomGuy
11-13-2017, 01:19 PM
He’s been at the forefront of exposing the Awan scandal for over a year. He’s got a case.

Would you say he a leading member of the "pizzagate community"?

I'm not a member of that, so I will have to defer to your insider's judgment.

RandomGuy
11-13-2017, 02:48 PM
Now I know you haven't read it.

It's simply insane.

This guy lost it a long time ago. If you keep pimping his conspiracies, you've lost it too. I propose you keep all your conspiracies in separate threads so you and we can see everything you believe in total. It really looks like you're just trying to muddy the waters ITT.

That is the thing I don't quite understand about people like TSA, who are convinced of secret plots and conspiracies. They are happy as punch to believe all sorts of shit like pizzagate, as long as it fits their narrative, and complain at great length about people carrying water for the conspiracy they think exists.

Then when Stupid Watergate comes along, and there is an actual conspiracy, albeit a stupid one, executed poorly (which is often the case in the real world), they do exactly what they accuse others of doing, in the rush to be the Internet Avenger.

Reck
11-13-2017, 04:41 PM
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930188261657628677

Oh shit. :lol

Pavlov
11-13-2017, 05:00 PM
930187975161536512

930188261657628677

Oh shit. :lolYep, Hillary is surely going to prison now!

Spurminator
11-13-2017, 05:10 PM
So where are we putting the goalpost now? Assange not Russian? DT Jr not technically Trump?

Pavlov
11-13-2017, 05:20 PM
So where are we putting the goalpost now? Assange not Russian? DT Jr not technically Trump?Probably something along the lines of "It wasn't Assange! It was setup by Obama!"

Reck
11-13-2017, 05:23 PM
WTF...

930191067114242048

Collusion confirmed x5.

Give this a read Baseline Bun djohn2oo8 and for gigles TSA

Spurminator
11-13-2017, 05:25 PM
Probably something along the lines of "It wasn't Assange! It was setup by Obama!"

"Don Jr. was a low level volunteer who hardly did anything for the campaign."

Reck
11-13-2017, 05:28 PM
Wikileaks asking Don Jr. to give them one of Trump's tax return so they can look impartial. :lol

Reck
11-13-2017, 05:31 PM
930194430237196288

:lol TSA

Spurminator
11-13-2017, 05:33 PM
Wikileaks didn't seem to stick to the strategy of trying not to be perceived as pro-Trump anyway.

florige
11-13-2017, 05:37 PM
"Don Jr. was a low level volunteer who hardly did anything for the campaign."


Trump hasn't had any communication with Don Jr in years. He hasn't seen or heard from him since he graduated HS according to Kellyanne Conway.

boutons_deux
11-13-2017, 05:39 PM
Wikileaks didn't seem to stick to the strategy of trying not to be perceived as pro-Trump anyway.

Pootin offered Assange asylum.

Assange leaked nothing bad about Trash.

Assange leaked out DNC/Podesta emails in the final months of the campaign, weekly for continuous, maximum distraction and damage.

Reck
11-13-2017, 06:10 PM
Donny Jr. being thrown under the bus already.

930208169946681344

Oh and they dont keep records of DMs. How convinient. :lol

Pavlov
11-13-2017, 06:13 PM
:lol and I thought Eric was Fredo. They're all Fredos.

djohn2oo8
11-13-2017, 06:14 PM
930194430237196288

:lol TSA

"If you say it I love it"

djohn2oo8
11-13-2017, 06:15 PM
930206361861939201
Schiff 2020.

baseline bum
11-13-2017, 06:16 PM
WTF...

930191067114242048

Collusion confirmed x5.

Give this a read Baseline Bun djohn2oo8 and for gigles TSA

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--hQqMx9E1--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/jzkfk424xdxmdjddyvr5.png

boutons_deux
11-13-2017, 06:20 PM
and DJT Jr was not keeping papa Trash in the collusion loop?

Of course, Mueller must have all of this DJT Jr - Assange comms, right?

Somewhere today I read that Assange was telling DJT Jr that Trash should not concede, must contest a loss, to really fuck up USA to fulfill Pootin's strategy.

djohn2oo8
11-13-2017, 06:23 PM
930197548651999232

:lmao

djohn2oo8
11-13-2017, 06:26 PM
930214022468784128
:lmao

baseline bum
11-13-2017, 06:27 PM
Mueller coming for that ass now, but the house will still let the Dear Leader walk on this.

Reck
11-13-2017, 06:29 PM
Mueller coming for that ass now, but the house will still let the Dear Leader walk on this.

That seems less likely every day.

The GOP keeps eating itself alive. Losing elections, candidates pedoining it up and Trump being knee deep into Russia. I've not seeing a weaker president/republican controlled congress in like...well has that ever even happened?

djohn2oo8
11-13-2017, 06:35 PM
Mueller coming for that ass now, but the house will still let the Dear Leader walk on this.

There's no escape. Capital crimes were committed punishable by death. Mueller is a pro, no worries.

djohn2oo8
11-13-2017, 06:35 PM
Way too many Republican "retirements" for that to be coincidental.

Reck
11-13-2017, 06:37 PM
There's no escape. Capital crimes were committed punishable by death. Mueller is a pro, no worries.

All this death talk is a little too much. lol

But I wouldn't mind seeing them all indicted for being so fucking dirty.

boutons_deux
11-13-2017, 06:40 PM
Can't wait for Trash to tweet about this.

Breitbart, Bannon, Alex Jones, Hun-nity tonight? :lol

Rachel Maddow, dem dots be pre-connected? :lol

"President Trump says he needs to get back to US 'to see what’s happening' with Roy Moore" :lol

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-trump-back-us-whats-happening-roy-moore/story?id=51080461

Trash should just fly to Moscow for asylum.

djohn2oo8
11-13-2017, 06:41 PM
930214833777192961

djohn2oo8
11-13-2017, 06:41 PM
All this death talk is a little too much. lol

But I wouldn't mind seeing them all indicted for being so fucking dirty.

Espionage is a capital crime punishable by death. And has been considered for Bannon. Shhhhh....

spurraider21
11-13-2017, 06:46 PM
:lol death penalty

djohn2oo8
11-13-2017, 06:48 PM
:lol death penalty

:lol "no collusion".

Spurminator
11-13-2017, 06:50 PM
Someone with more expertise than me is going to have to explain what specific crimes were committed in the exchanges. Certainly it's improper communication, but seems more damning of Wikileaks credibility (lol) than the Trump camp.

Reck
11-13-2017, 06:55 PM
Someone with more expertise than me is going to have to explain what specific crimes were committed in the exchanges. Certainly it's improper communication, but seems more damning of Wikileaks credibility (lol) than the Trump camp.

I'm not an expert either but it has something to do with regulations and laws prohibiting a campaign official working with a foreign entity for political gain.

boutons_deux
11-13-2017, 06:57 PM
collusion proven, Hannity will certainly say collusion with a foreign adversary is not a crime.

How will Fox & Friends handle it?

djohn2oo8
11-13-2017, 07:00 PM
Someone with more expertise than me is going to have to explain what specific crimes were committed in the exchanges. Certainly it's improper communication, but seems more damning of Wikileaks credibility (lol) than the Trump camp.

Soliciting a foreign country to provide stolen property is very much frowned upon.

DarrinS
11-13-2017, 07:02 PM
There's no escape. Capital crimes were committed punishable by death. Mueller is a pro, no worries.

:lol

djohn2oo8
11-13-2017, 07:05 PM
Oh and LMAO at that email chain.

djohn2oo8
11-13-2017, 07:05 PM
:lol

You seem troubled Darrin.

DarrinS
11-13-2017, 07:06 PM
You seem troubled Darrin.

You seem delusional. :lol

djohn2oo8
11-13-2017, 07:06 PM
930220759305334784

djohn2oo8
11-13-2017, 07:07 PM
You seem delusional. :lol

Sorry your no collusion talking point got shredded.

DarrinS
11-13-2017, 07:07 PM
I'm not an expert either but it has something to do with regulations and laws prohibiting a campaign official working with a foreign entity for political gain.

Gee, I hope no party or campaign has been caught doing that.

Reck
11-13-2017, 07:10 PM
Gee, I hope no party or campaign has been caught doing that.

With a hostile country? Russia hacked us.

:lol Darrins acting casual about foreign countries intevening on our elections because it was to hurt good old Hillary.
:lol Your standards.

DarrinS
11-13-2017, 07:11 PM
Sorry your no collusion talking point got shredded.

“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”

There it is. :lol

djohn2oo8
11-13-2017, 07:11 PM
With a hostile country? Russia hacked us.

:lol Darrins acting casual about foreign countries intevening on our elections because it was to hurt good old Hillary.
:lol Your standards.

:lmao

djohn2oo8
11-13-2017, 07:12 PM
“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”

There it is. :lol

Darrin so stupid that he doesn't even realize even an offer thats not responded to would be breaking the law. But Wikileaks responded and so did Jr :lol

DarrinS
11-13-2017, 07:13 PM
With a hostile country? Russia hacked us.

:lol Darrins acting casual about foreign countries intevening on our elections because it was to hurt good old Hillary.
:lol Your standards.

^
Doesn’t care about DNC and Hillary campaign paying for pissgate dossier.

DarrinS
11-13-2017, 07:14 PM
Darrin so stupid that he doesn't even realize even an offer thats not responded to would be breaking the law. But Wikileaks responded and so did Jr :lol

Trump and Jr will get death penalty. :lol

Reck
11-13-2017, 07:14 PM
^
Doesn’t care about DNC and Hillary campaign paying for pissgate dossier.

Oh I'm sorry, I should care for actual oppo research? That was actually started by republicans to begin with? Ok.

djohn2oo8
11-13-2017, 07:17 PM
Trump and Jr will get death penalty. :lol

Did I say both of them? I said it has been considered for Bannon. But no doubt, niggas will be made examples of.

djohn2oo8
11-13-2017, 07:18 PM
So now Darrin can't tell the difference between opposition research and soliciting an agent of a foreign power who just so happens to be an adversary, to provide stolen information?

boutons_deux
11-13-2017, 07:20 PM
Russia’s Election Meddling Is Another American Intelligence Failure

After American intelligence agencies failed to detect and stop Al Qaeda’s 9/11 attack, sixteen years ago, Congress more than doubled their budgets and gave them unprecedented secret authorities.

As the intelligence beat reporter for the Washington Post at the time, I watched these agencies grow in size, as dozens of new buildings appeared around the Washington region to house a ballooning workforce of over a million people with top-secret security clearances.

The National Security Agency obtained permission to collect and store the private Internet correspondence and cell-phone data of millions of Americans.

The F.B.I. was granted the power to obtain citizens’ banking, library, and phone records without court approval.

The C.I.A. opened secret prisons abroad where they tortured terrorist suspects.

Local police departments began employing military-grade weapons, armored vehicles, and cell-phone-tracking devices.

All these measures, and many more, were put in place in the name of national security.

And yet, last year,

these vastly larger agencies failed to defend, or even warn, the American public against the most audacious Russian covert operation toward the United States since the end of the Cold War.

Kremlin leaders had signalled their plans years in advance.

The Russian playbook wasn’t a secret, either. It had been well documented by European governments, researchers, and journalists

after the Kremlin’s information operations to destabilize Estonia, in 2007; Georgia, in 2008; Ukraine, in 2014; and Britain, in the leadup to the 2016 Brexit vote.

the U.S. intelligence community “should have predicted” the attacks “with more clarity, maybe, than we did.”

“When you overlay these attacks onto what we’ve known on our counterintelligence side about the Russians for many years, it completely fits into their playbook,” he went on.

“This ability to insert themselves into our system, to sow discord and social and political unrest, is right up their alley, and

it’s something we probably? :lol should have seen.”

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/russias-election-meddling-is-another-american-intelligence-failure?mbid=nl_Daily%20111317%20Nonsubs&CNDID=43758549&spMailingID=12348564&spUserID=MTQzNTk4NzA3ODYzS0&spJobID=1281239126&spReportId=MTI4MTIzOTEyNgS2

Actually, about mid 2016, Obama's team and the Congressional party leaders were told about Russian meddling, but Bitch McConnell, specifically, told Obama not to go public with the information.

And we now know the FBI was investigating the Trash-Russia connection long before the election, but kept it secret,

while announcing on national TV about the investigation of Hillary's non-indictable emails, TWICE.

DarrinS
11-13-2017, 07:23 PM
Oh I'm sorry, I should care for actual oppo research? That was actually started by republicans to begin with? Ok.

That oppo research is the origin of this Russia collusion narrative.

Reck
11-13-2017, 07:26 PM
That oppo research is the origin of this Russia collusion narrative.

Is not a narrative. it's actual, legit investigation.

Dont you see the crazy coincidences and Russian contacts the Trump people had? Doesn't that tell you something?

I'd like to think you're smarter than play dumb. There is at least something going on with Trump and Putin. Somebody is holding something on someone's head.

djohn2oo8
11-13-2017, 07:27 PM
Is not a narrative. it's actual, legit investigation.

Dont you see the crazy coincidences and Russian contacts the Trump people had? Doesn't that tell you something?

I'd like to think you're smarter than play dumb. There is at least something going on with Trump and Putin. Somebody is holding something on someone's head.

Not to mention Trump openly asked the Russians to hack Hillary

Pavlov
11-13-2017, 07:27 PM
That oppo research is the origin of this Russia collusion narrative.The contact and meeting with multiple Russians is the origin of this Russia collusion narrative.

dabom
11-13-2017, 07:29 PM
At this point no one can cover their ears and close their eyes and make funny noises and pretend they don't see any collusion here. :lol

dabom
11-13-2017, 07:33 PM
At what point do Americans act like Americans. :lol

Reck
11-13-2017, 07:33 PM
Cant believe Donny did it again.

930228239494209536

Mueller: Have a seat over there Junya.

djohn2oo8
11-13-2017, 07:36 PM
Cant believe Donny did it again.

930228239494209536

Mueller: Have a seat over there Junya.

Jesus Christ!!! :lmao :lmao :lmao

Reck
11-13-2017, 07:38 PM
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This guy is fucking stupid. That's collusion. :lmao

Oh and yeah.. TSA :lmao

dabom
11-13-2017, 07:39 PM
Who is giving this guy bad legal advice? :lmao

djohn2oo8
11-13-2017, 07:44 PM
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dabom
11-13-2017, 07:44 PM
In b4 someone tries to defend that shit. :lmao

Reck
11-13-2017, 07:45 PM
930234372397129728

:lmao

Dumbest. wannabe. Criminals. Ever.

Pavlov
11-13-2017, 07:48 PM
In b4 someone tries to defend that shit. :lmaoDarrin already tried the "Well no one would have known the Trumps were talking to the Russian government if Clinton hadn't paid someone to find that out" defense.

He sure showed us.

dabom
11-13-2017, 07:50 PM
Darrin already tried the "Well no one would have known the Trumps were talking to the Russian government if Clinton hadn't paid someone to find that out" defense.

He sure showed us.

Blame the messengers not the act. :lol

DarrinS
11-13-2017, 07:52 PM
Darrin already tried the "Well no one would have known the Trumps were talking to the Russian government if Clinton hadn't paid someone to find that out" defense.

He sure showed us.



“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”

There it is. :lol

Pavlov
11-13-2017, 07:54 PM
:lol Darrin tries so hard.

Spurminator
11-13-2017, 07:56 PM
Soliciting a foreign country to provide stolen property is very much frowned upon.

This seems to be a foreign entity soliciting favor and information but very little reciprocation.

I mean, it's a huge billowing smoke ball for sure, I just don't think we have the gun yet.

dabom
11-13-2017, 07:56 PM
Assange says he can't recall the full conversation and lil trumpy here tells everyone. :lmao

spurraider21
11-13-2017, 08:00 PM
^
Doesn’t care about DNC and Hillary campaign paying for pissgate dossier.
Which was never used as part of their campaign.

djohn2oo8
11-13-2017, 08:00 PM
This seems to be a foreign entity soliciting favor and information but very little reciprocation.

I mean, it's a huge billowing smoke ball for sure, I just don't think we have the gun yet.

Jr Responded. He is fucked.

djohn2oo8
11-13-2017, 08:01 PM
930235736900632576

DarrinS
11-13-2017, 08:03 PM
This seems to be a foreign entity soliciting favor and information but very little reciprocation.

I mean, it's a huge billowing smoke ball for sure, I just don't think we have the gun yet.


I read the Atlantic piece. Didn’t appear that jr was doing the soliciting. They even asked for his father’s tax returns, which is pretty hilarious.

djohn2oo8
11-13-2017, 08:04 PM
930234773708173312
:lol

Pavlov
11-13-2017, 08:04 PM
Goalposts on the move once again.

boutons_deux
11-13-2017, 08:05 PM
This seems to be a foreign entity soliciting favor and information but very little reciprocation.

I mean, it's a huge billowing smoke ball for sure, I just don't think we have the gun yet.

Like Trash's people had a quid-pro-quo with Sinclair, if Sinclair supported Trash, Trash would OK Sinclair to buy Tribune Group, etc.

I expect with Rexxon at State, there was, is? a deal that Pootin would work to elect Trash (and Pootin made sure that Trash knew that Pootin was doing that), then Trash would return the favor by lifting very painful Magnitsky Act (see the Kushner "adoptions" meeting with the Russians), and lift sanctions to allow Rexxon and Vlad's $500B gas/oil deal to proceed.

Vlad badly wants the hard currency of US$ from oil/gas sales.

djohn2oo8
11-13-2017, 08:07 PM
930188261657628677
But her emails

Reck
11-13-2017, 08:12 PM
This seems to be a foreign entity soliciting favor and information but very little reciprocation.

I mean, it's a huge billowing smoke ball for sure, I just don't think we have the gun yet.

It adds up.

Even if you take his word that he only sent 3 messages back to them coupled with the I love it, send me the dirty info, it's pretty implicit stuff.

Chucho
11-13-2017, 08:14 PM
Lol, oh wow. They're going down.

boutons_deux
11-13-2017, 08:38 PM
On Anderson Cooper, Toobin said Trash's team's defense was to be that Wikileaks was a media organization and therefore that the law didn't apply, but Toobin said Pompeo has said many times that the CIA considers Wikileaks to be an agent of the Russian govt, meaning DJT Jr soliciting information from Wikileaks/Russia merits a criminal investigation.

DarrinS
11-13-2017, 08:49 PM
On Anderson Cooper, Toobin said Trash's team's defense was to be that Wikileaks was a media organization and therefore that the law didn't apply, but Toobin said Pompeo has said many times that the CIA considers Wikileaks to be an agent of the Russian govt, meaning DJT Jr soliciting information from Wikileaks/Russia merits a criminal investigation.


Drink up

https://m.popkey.co/afd35d/gpVG6.gif

boutons_deux
11-13-2017, 09:06 PM
Pence denied on Fox & Friends (shown on AC360) that there was no connection tween Trash's mafiya and Wikileaks

DarrinS
11-13-2017, 09:07 PM
Drink up

https://m.popkey.co/afd35d/gpVG6.gif


Pence denied on Fox & Friends (shown on AC360) that there was no connection tween Trash's mafiya and Wikileaks

boutons_deux
11-13-2017, 09:12 PM
Michael Hayden thinks there was, there is no line that Trash and his people wouldn't cross.

Well, Nixon scuttled the Paris peace talks in 1968 (october suprise) and

Reagan blocked Carter trying to release the hostages and got Khomeini to hold the hostage until Reagan was sworn in, which is exactly what happened.

Repugs got no stinkin' lines :lol

Chris
11-13-2017, 09:23 PM
Big booms coming someday

Chris
11-13-2017, 09:23 PM
Mueller digging deep for all Americans :tu

dabom
11-13-2017, 09:45 PM
Mueller digging deep for all Americans :tu

You might still have some character left in you.

DarrinS
11-13-2017, 09:57 PM
Big booms coming someday

Capital crimes with death penalties, tbh.

Chris
11-14-2017, 12:27 AM
prj8VROohPk

Chris
11-14-2017, 12:30 AM
Possible authors of the fake dossier:

Simpson
Fusion
British/American intelligence
Podesta (?)

spurraider21
11-14-2017, 12:42 AM
Possible authors of the fake dossier:

Simpson
Fusion
British/American intelligence
Podesta (?)
Possible authors of Chris's opinions:

Dick Morris
Alex Jones
Trey Smith
Julian Assange

Chucho
11-14-2017, 12:49 AM
Possible authors of the fake dossier:

Simpson


The Juice?

Chris
11-14-2017, 12:57 AM
The Juice?

At this point I wouldn't be surprised. Dems/Globalists have their greasy little meat hooks into all forms of media and entertainment.

Chucho
11-14-2017, 01:00 AM
At this point I wouldn't be surprised. Dems/Globalists have their greasy little meat hooks into all forms of media and entertainment.

It's fair conjecture that the Left took him back when the coloreds did.

Chris
11-14-2017, 01:02 AM
CNN expected to be banned in Russia

EbVnWbHNA6U

Chris
11-14-2017, 01:05 AM
It's fair conjecture that the Left took him back when the coloreds did.

They know how to run a good plantation. They wrote the book.

clambake
11-14-2017, 01:52 AM
:corn:

boutons_deux
11-14-2017, 07:43 AM
WHAT ABOUT .... ?

Jeff Sessions Weighs Competing Special Counsel Focused On Clinton, Democrats

President Trump has questioned why the Justice Department isn’t looking into Democrats.

The attorney general says he’s on the case.

Attorney General Jeff Sessions,

facing a dissatisfied boss and increased scrutiny over his knowledge of the Trump campaign’s dealings with Russia,

is weighing whether to appoint a separate special counsel to zero in on allegations against presidential rival Hillary Clinton (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/topic/hillary-clinton) and other Democrats, a Justice Department official disclosed in a letter to Republican members of Congress on Monday.

Appointing a second special counsel would be seen as a move to appease President Donald Trump (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/topic/donald-trump), who has long been critical of Sessions and recently publicly aired his frustrations with the traditional divide between the White House and the Justice Department and his inability to aim the nation’s premier law enforcement agency at his political adversaries.

The disclosure came in a letter from a top Justice Department official to Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.), who chairs the House Judiciary Committee.

Goodlatte and other House Republicans had sent letters to the Justice Department in July (https://goodlatte.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=939) and September (https://goodlatte.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=978) featuring

a wide-ranging list of 14 allegations against Democrats that Republicans wanted investigated.

In addition to raising concerns about the handling of the Clinton investigation,

which is already being examined by the Justice Department’s inspector general,

the letter raised questions about the Clinton Foundation (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/topic/clinton-foundation), mining company Uranium One (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/topic/uranium) and other topics.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jeff-sessions-special-counsel-clinton-democrats_us_5a0a43d9e4b0bc648a0d5976?utm_medium=e mail&utm_campaign=__TheMorningEmail__111417&utm_content=__TheMorningEmail__111417+CID_a5f5f58f b33ce788cc50338ac0da410b&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=HuffPost&ncid=newsltushpmgnews__TheMorningEmail__111417

The USA of Repugs is a sight to behold :lol

Do the Repugs really think Mueller, etc will be deflected from bringing down Trash, LIAR/colluder Sessions, and the rest of Trash's Russian mafiya? :lol

pgardn
11-14-2017, 07:58 AM
At this point I wouldn't be surprised. Dems/Globalists have their greasy little meat hooks into all forms of media and entertainment.

Chris.

You have a next door neighbor globalist.
Go push him down while ranting about proper lawn maintenance.
Then rehabilitate the stricken sinner with a favorite Roy Moore Bible verse.

boutons_deux
11-14-2017, 08:30 AM
Atty. Gen. Sessions to again explain his incorrect statements :lol on contacts with Russia during 2016 campaign

Atty. Gen. Jeff Sessions is scheduled to testify at 10 A.M. Eastern to the House Judiciary Committee.

He will try to square his past assertions that he knew of no contacts between the Trump campaign and Russians with new claims in court documents and congressional testimony alleging that he did.

Sessions, who was Trump’s first senatorial endorser and a key foreign policy advisor during the campaign, got an early hint of the treatment he is likely to face when Democrats castigated him Monday from the Senate floor.

“Regrettably, Atty. Gen. Sessions, our nation’s chief law enforcement officer, seems to have a real problem with telling the truth” about his actions and those of the Trump team, Sen. Al Franken

Franken went through a litany of statements Sessions had made that have now been contradicted by others in the Trump orbit.

He accused the attorney general, a four-term senator from Alabama until his Cabinet appointment, of “convenient amnesia.”

“He has responded not by coming clean and admitting that his initial testimony was inaccurate but by shifting his story and moving the goalposts,”

“It’s clear that the Kremlin tested the waters with Sen. Sessions as it did with so many other Trump campaign officials,”

Leahy said.

“It’s equally clear the attorney general has concealed his contacts with Russian officials…He needs to come back again, and testify again, under oath.”

On three occasions Sessions has appeared before the Senate to issue denials of activity, only to have it proved later to be incomplete or wrong.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-pol-essential-washington-updates-atty-gen-sessions-to-again-explain-his-1510622410-htmlstory.html#nws=mcnewsletter

Lying under oath to Congress, fucking PERJURY, is now unpunished, nobody held accountable.

Perjury is just accepted, expected, NORMALIZED.

RandomGuy
11-14-2017, 12:48 PM
So now Darrin can't tell the difference between opposition research and soliciting an agent of a foreign power who just so happens to be an adversary, to provide stolen information?

Darrin has a hard time telling the difference between a lot of things.

I would be willing to bet he complains a lot about how his shoes fit funny, cause they curve the wrong way.

RandomGuy
11-14-2017, 12:49 PM
:lol

So what did you make of Trumps statement on Putin/Russia?

He didn't do so well without his teleprompter.

boutons_deux
11-14-2017, 12:50 PM
Great Hilarity from Sessions' nth session before Congress

Sessions: ‘I Have Not Been Improperly Influenced’ By Trump On DOJ Probe

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/sessions-influence-trump-doj-probes?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20tpm-news%20%28TPMNews%29


Jeff Sessions Enrages Trump By Rejecting His Demand For A Special Counsel To Investigate Clinton

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/11/14/jeff-sessions-enrages-trump-rejecting-demand-special-counsel-investigate-clinton.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

Sessions will do anything to avoid answering a basic question about Trump’s tweets

"My answer stands for itself, I guess," Sessions said of his non-answer.

https://thinkprogress.org/jeff-sessions-john-conyers-trump-functioning-democracy-meddling-1f5b1303965a/


Franken meticulously dismantled Sessions’ shifting story on Russia. Then Sessions made things worse.

Under fire for moving the goalposts, Sessions moved them yet again.

https://thinkprogress.org/franken-meticulously-dismantled-sessions-shifting-story-on-russia-then-sessions-made-things-worse-c3e13c1da9e3/

Jeff Sessions now recalls Russia links discussed at Trump campaign

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41989165


Judge Jeanine :lol Personally Told Trump to Appoint a Special Counsel to Investigate Clinton

https://www.mediaite.com/election-2016/judge-jeanine-personally-told-trump-a-special-counsel-needed-to-be-appointed-to-investigate-clinton/


Jeff Sessions: The DOJ ‘Can Never Be Used to Retaliate Politically Against Opponents’ (:lol Repug Congress and Trash disagree)

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/jeff-sessions-the-doj-can-never-be-used-to-retaliate-politically-against-opponents/


‘Possum memory’: GOP operatives brutally mock Jeff Sessions’ total inability to recall Russia meetings

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/possum-memory-gop-operatives-brutally-mock-jeff-sessions-total-inability-to-recall-russia-meetings/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

etc, etc, without doubt :lol

"THE BEST PEOPLE" :lol

RandomGuy
11-14-2017, 12:52 PM
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20171110&t=2&i=1209314462&r=LYNXMPEDA91J5&w=1280

TSA
11-14-2017, 12:53 PM
Anyone check out the link from the Wikileaks/Don Jr messages?

http://wlsearch.tk/

:wow

RandomGuy
11-14-2017, 12:54 PM
Trump fell all over himself to talk to Putin. Again.

And when asked about attacks on our election by Russia... wow.

Reck
11-14-2017, 12:55 PM
I was shocked when Sessions actually fought back on not appointing a special counsel. On a republican no less.

RandomGuy
11-14-2017, 12:58 PM
"He said he didn't meddle. He said he didn't meddle. I asked him again. You can only ask so many times, Every time he sees me, he says, 'I didn't do that,' ...And I believe, I really believe, that when he tells me that, he means it. I think he is very insulted by it"


On Sunday:

"I believe that he feels that he and Russia did not meddle in the election. As to whether I believe it or not, I am with our agencies, especially as currently constituted with the leadership," "I believe that our intel agencies, our intelligence agencies, I work with them very strongly ... As currently led, by fine people, I believe very much in our intelligence agencies," Trump said.

He's worried about Putin's feelings.

Not democracy.

RandomGuy
11-14-2017, 12:59 PM
Anyone check out the link from the Wikileaks/Don Jr messages?



:wow


"He said he didn't meddle. He said he didn't meddle. I asked him again. You can only ask so many times, Every time he sees me, he says, 'I didn't do that,' ...And I believe, I really believe, that when he tells me that, he means it. I think he is very insulted by it"


On Sunday:

"I believe that he feels that he and Russia did not meddle in the election. As to whether I believe it or not, I am with our agencies, especially as currently constituted with the leadership," "I believe that our intel agencies, our intelligence agencies, I work with them very strongly ... As currently led, by fine people, I believe very much in our intelligence agencies," Trump said.

Are Trumps comments on Putin during the recent trip to Asia consistent with the theory "Trump has been compromised in some way by the Russians." ?????

boutons_deux
11-14-2017, 01:01 PM
What about ....

SETH RICH! :lol

boutons_deux
11-14-2017, 01:05 PM
WikiLeaks tells Trump Jr: Julian Assange still willing to be Australia’s ambassador to US

Julian Assange

@JulianAssange (https://twitter.com/JulianAssange)

Dear @DonaldJTrumpJr (https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr) our offer of being ambassador to the US still stands.

I could open a hotel style embassy in DC with luxury immunity suites for whistleblowers.

The public will get a turbo-charged flow of intel about the latest CIA plots to undermine democracy.

DM me.#vault8 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/vault8?src=hash)

10:33 AM - Nov 14, 2017 (https://twitter.com/JulianAssange/status/930473658572836864)

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/wikileaks-tells-trump-jr-julian-assange-still-willing-to-be-australias-ambassador-to-us/

boutons_deux
11-14-2017, 01:11 PM
"Sessions’ testimony about the independence of the DOJ stands

in contrast with a letter the department sent to the House Judiciary Committee on Monday.

That letter informed members that

federal prosecutors are looking into whether a special counsel should be appointed to investigate Hillary Clinton.

The New York Times reported (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/13/us/politics/justice-department-uranium-one-special-counsel.html?_r=0) that the letter “appeared to be a direct response to Mr. Trump’s statement on Nov. 3 (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/03/us/politics/trump-says-justice-dept-and-fbi-must-do-what-is-right-and-investigate-democrats.html),

when he said he was disappointed with his beleaguered attorney general, Jeff Sessions, and

that longstanding unproven allegations about the Clintons and the Obama administration should be investigated.”

https://thinkprogress.org/jeff-sessions-john-conyers-trump-functioning-democracy-meddling-1f5b1303965a/

So Sessions says DoJ has not been (hedging qualification alert!) IMPROPERLY influenced by Trash. :lol

The line between improper and proper in Sessions' DoJ doesn't exist.

RandomGuy
11-14-2017, 01:11 PM
He seems more worried that Putin is "insulted" by the accusations than he is by the impact these operations had on our democratic processes. The shocking comments about Putin are likely to drown out everything else that has happened so far.
The statement is a head-turner. It is part of the ongoing puzzle from this administration: What explains Trump's insistence on taking a relatively positive stance toward the Russian government despite the overwhelming evidence we have of an ongoing cyberwar against democratic elections and a terrible record on human rights.

Looks like I am not the only one to notice.

Pavlov
11-14-2017, 01:12 PM
Anyone check out the link from the Wikileaks/Don Jr messages?

http://wlsearch.tk/

:wow

I don't think Seth Rich wrote that tbh.

boutons_deux
11-14-2017, 01:15 PM
Looks like I am not the only one to notice.

Trash is 100% compromised by Pootin and his mafiya, along with his entire entourage that has been in close, repeated contact with Pootin's people and Pootin puppet Assange for years.

The lying, the forgetting, the goal post moving, the qualifications, the non-answers, the deflections, etc are only justifiable, explainable for people with something, some BIG things, to hide

WHAT ABOUT .... HILLARY!

DarrinS
11-14-2017, 01:28 PM
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20171110&t=2&i=1209314462&r=LYNXMPEDA91J5&w=1280

https://o.aolcdn.com/images/dims3/GLOB/legacy_thumbnail/1028x675/format/jpg/quality/85/http%3A%2F%2Fo.aolcdn.com%2Fhss%2Fstorage%2Fmidas% 2F886e6a3dc810c9102dd781ac1f30506%2F205050642%2FRT R37OA1.jpeg

TSA
11-14-2017, 01:28 PM
I don't think Seth Rich wrote that tbh.

Obviously. But it's very interesting that Wikileaks put this out and is now basically claiming Seth Rich was in fact their source.

AaronY
11-14-2017, 01:32 PM
Obviously. But it's very interesting that Wikileaks put this out and is now basically claiming Seth Rich was in fact their source.
Yeah, its utterly fascinating. Hey, I thought you was a big anti-pedophilia guy yet I don't see you in the Roy Moore thread. whats going on there?

RandomGuy
11-14-2017, 01:36 PM
[whataboutism]

What about you, chickenshit?


"He said he didn't meddle. He said he didn't meddle. I asked him again. You can only ask so many times, Every time he sees me, he says, 'I didn't do that,' ...And I believe, I really believe, that when he tells me that, he means it. I think he is very insulted by it"


On Sunday:

"I believe that he feels that he and Russia did not meddle in the election. As to whether I believe it or not, I am with our agencies, especially as currently constituted with the leadership," "I believe that our intel agencies, our intelligence agencies, I work with them very strongly ... As currently led, by fine people, I believe very much in our intelligence agencies," Trump said.

Are Trumps comments on Putin during the recent trip to Asia consistent with the theory "Trump has been compromised in some way by the Russians." ?????

RandomGuy
11-14-2017, 01:37 PM
Obviously. But it's very interesting that Wikileaks put this out and is now basically claiming Seth Rich was in fact their source.

It's very interesting how fast you duck out when Putin comes up.


"He said he didn't meddle. He said he didn't meddle. I asked him again. You can only ask so many times, Every time he sees me, he says, 'I didn't do that,' ...And I believe, I really believe, that when he tells me that, he means it. I think he is very insulted by it"


On Sunday:

"I believe that he feels that he and Russia did not meddle in the election. As to whether I believe it or not, I am with our agencies, especially as currently constituted with the leadership," "I believe that our intel agencies, our intelligence agencies, I work with them very strongly ... As currently led, by fine people, I believe very much in our intelligence agencies," Trump said.

Are Trumps comments on Putin during the recent trip to Asia consistent with the theory "Trump has been compromised in some way by the Russians." ?????

TSA
11-14-2017, 01:41 PM
Yeah, its utterly fascinating. Hey, I thought you was a big anti-pedophilia guy yet I don't see you in the Roy Moore thread. whats going on there?
you must have missed my comment in there

Pavlov
11-14-2017, 01:43 PM
Obviously. But it's very interesting that Wikileaks put this out and is now basically claiming Seth Rich was in fact their source.1) Is it even Assange's site anymore?

2) If so, putting passive aggressive words in a dead man's mouth is a shitty way for a "journalist" to reveal his source.

If he's really saying that, Assange needs to tell everything. Strange he's not being transparent, isn't it?

Mark Celibate
11-14-2017, 01:47 PM
Does anyone else feel like this Russia investigation business was all a projection from the left to cover up uranium one and their pay for play deals with the Russians? I don’t know, it seems like most people at least trump supporters first of all don’t believe in any collusion and secondly just don’t care. Colluded to do what, fight ISIS and prevent nuclear war? President obama himself said that our elections can’t be rigged when Clinton was up in the polls. Russia is somehow simultaneously a backwards third world country of barbarians threatening to swallow up their neighbors to feed their economy and at the same time sophisticated enough to hack our elections and manipulate everything.

AaronY
11-14-2017, 01:47 PM
you must have missed my comment in there

Oh, I found it. one small sentence about a real pedophile in the government compared to a six month investigation you carried out about a pizza basement. seems like you cared more about the one than the other for some reason

TSA
11-14-2017, 01:50 PM
It's very interesting how fast you duck out when Putin comes up.




On Sunday:


Are Trumps comments on Putin during the recent trip to Asia consistent with the theory "Trump has been compromised in some way by the Russians." ?????

Stop quoting me discussing Seth Rich if you don't want to discuss it.

boutons_deux
11-14-2017, 01:57 PM
https://media.newyorker.com/cartoons/5a0b37698a18b874bfa636c6/master/w_767,c_limit/DC111417.jpg
“Hmm . . . Better look into those Clintons.”

boutons_deux
11-14-2017, 01:59 PM
Eric Trump Asks Dad if He Can Have Donald, Jr.,’s Room

https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5a0b12e0e4e71262a4ecaa7d/master/w_1626,c_limit/Borowitz_Big-Trouble-for-Little-Trump.jpg

WASHINGTON —Eric Trump has asked his father, Donald Trump, if he can have his brother Donald, Jr.,’s room, Eric Trump confirmed on Monday night.

“Don, Jr., got this ginormous room, and I got a crappy little one,” Eric Trump said.

“Don, Jr., got to work in the real-estate company, and I got stuck with the winery. But all that’s about to change.”

Eric Trump said that, although his father had not yet responded to his request, he was optimistic that his wish would be granted.

“It looks like Don, Jr., might not be needing his room for quite some time,” he said, barely suppressing a grin.

He added that he had not discussed the future of Donald, Jr.,’s room with his brother. “I’ve had to put up with Don, Jr.,’s bullshit my entire life,” he said.

“Don, Jr., this, Don, Jr., that. Don, Jr., is the king of all he surveys. Seriously, Don, Jr., can suck it. I’m getting his room.”

Asked if he had a message for his brother, Eric Trump paused for a moment and said, “Yes. I’ve waited my whole life for this moment.

And you know what they say?

Revenge is a dish best served after you’ve waited your whole life for this moment.”

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/eric-trump-asks-dad-if-he-can-have-donald-jrs-room (https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/eric-trump-asks-dad-if-he-can-have-donald-jrs-room)

FuzzyLumpkins
11-14-2017, 02:13 PM
Does anyone else feel like this Russia investigation business was all a projection from the left to cover up uranium one and their pay for play deals with the Russians? I don’t know, it seems like most people at least trump supporters first of all don’t believe in any collusion and secondly just don’t care. Colluded to do what, fight ISIS and prevent nuclear war? President obama himself said that our elections can’t be rigged when Clinton was up in the polls. Russia is somehow simultaneously a backwards third world country of barbarians threatening to swallow up their neighbors to feed their economy and at the same time sophisticated enough to hack our elections and manipulate everything.

1) paragraphs are your friend.
2) there is already a guilty plea and 2 indictments in the Russia investigation involving senior staff from Trump's campaign. It doesn't feel like a coverup at all but instead an investigation into serious crimes.
3) You do a real good job in parroting the GOP talking points.

boutons_deux
11-14-2017, 02:17 PM
Does anyone else feel like this Russia investigation business was all a projection from the left to cover up uranium one and their pay for play deals with the Russians? :lol

I don’t know, :lol

it seems like most people at least trump supporters first of all don’t believe in any collusion and secondly just don’t care.

Colluded to do what, fight ISIS and prevent nuclear war? :lol

President obama himself said that our elections can’t be rigged when Clinton was up in the polls. :lol

Russia is somehow simultaneously a backwards third world country of barbarians threatening to swallow up their neighbors to feed their economy

and at the same time sophisticated enough to hack our elections and manipulate everything. :lol

:lol you STILL on this Repug/Fox fabricated bullshit? :lol

or,

I love your trolling :lol EXCELLENT job

AaronY
11-14-2017, 02:19 PM
Does anyone else feel like this Russia investigation business was all a projection from the left to cover up uranium one and their pay for play deals with the Russians? I don’t know, it seems like most people at least trump supporters first of all don’t believe in any collusion and secondly just don’t care. Colluded to do what, fight ISIS and prevent nuclear war? President obama himself said that our elections can’t be rigged when Clinton was up in the polls. Russia is somehow simultaneously a backwards third world country of barbarians threatening to swallow up their neighbors to feed their economy and at the same time sophisticated enough to hack our elections and manipulate everything.
Lol no offense but right wing media really done a number on you. The vote was 97-2 for the hacking sanctions and all the intelligence communiities agreed it happened: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4604992/Senate-backs-sanctions-Russia-US-election-hacking.html

I been mocking this retarded russia thread since the beginning of it and think Trump going to the chair like djohn thinks is a hilariou sfantasy but Russia did interfere whether it made a difference or not is up for conjecture. Clinton being a boring uninspirational candidate was her main problem imo.

boutons_deux
11-14-2017, 02:29 PM
Jeff Sessions Blows A Gasket When He’s Accused Of Perjury During House Hearing

Attorney General Jeff Sessions blew up and yelled that it wasn’t fair when he was accused of perjury during a House Judiciary Committee hearing.


After Rep. Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) built the case that

Sessions has perjured himself multiple times before Congress,

the Attorney General lost his temper, began yelling and said,

“Mr. Jeffries. Mr. Jeffries.

Nobody, not you, or anyone else should be prosecuted, not me, or accused of perjury for answering the questions the way I did in this hearing.

I’ve always tried to answer the questions fairly and accurately, :lol

but to ask did you ever do something?

Did you ever meet with Russians and deal with campaign? :lol

You’re saying Mr. Carter Page who left that meeting according to the press reports and

I guess his deposition and interview has been reported as saying I’m going to Russia.

I made no response to him, didn’t acknowledge it, and you’re accusing me of lying about that?

I would say that’s not fair, Mr. Jeffries.

I would say that’s not fair colleagues.”

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/11/14/jeff-sessions-blows-gasket-accused-perjury-house-hearing.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

G U I L T Y !

Mark Celibate
11-14-2017, 02:53 PM
Lol no offense but right wing media really done a number on you. The vote was 97-2 for the hacking sanctions and all the intelligence communiities agreed it happened: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4604992/Senate-backs-sanctions-Russia-US-election-hacking.html

I been mocking this retarded russia thread since the beginning of it and think Trump going to the chair like djohn thinks is a hilariou sfantasy but Russia did interfere whether it made a difference or not is up for conjecture. Clinton being a boring uninspirational candidate was her main problem imo.


Hacking and a few thousand facebook sock puppet accounts saying many things that the American alt-right were already saying aren’t the same thing. Hacking means breaking in and accessing the votes and manipulating them. social media psyops are not hacking and in fact is exactly the type of thing the cia does in elections around the globe. They are essentially upset that Russia did what they have been doing for a long time and did it better. Still no evidence of actual electronic tampering.

Mark Celibate
11-14-2017, 03:02 PM
Also, it’s funny that two posters accuse me of parroting GOP talking points and being brainwashed by their media when I neither am a republican nor consume MSM. Political debates have devolved into both sides accusing the other of being biased while being biased themselves. It’s kind of like putting on your favorite football teams gear and cheering for them just because. I’m surprised that people still support American political parties. Only thing that’s changed is people superficially deny affiliation with the party they support but continue to support them by simply focusing their attacks on the other party and never on the one they secretly support. If we could pull the voting records of some of you disaffected Democrats we’d all get a good laugh. Same with the republican voters but there aren’t as many here.

AaronY
11-14-2017, 03:14 PM
Hacking and a few thousand facebook sock puppet accounts saying many things that the American alt-right were already saying aren’t the same thing. Hacking means breaking in and accessing the votes and manipulating them. social media psyops are not hacking and in fact is exactly the type of thing the cia does in elections around the globe. They are essentially upset that Russia did what they have been doing for a long time and did it better. Still no evidence of actual electronic tampering.
I don't think people here think they tampered with votes. I don't bother reading all this horeshit though. They got Hillary's emails and posted them because Putin was mad when she interfered in his election and they used bots and paid operatives to post lies on social media. I guess some of the Trump people talked to Russians and Assange and thats on them for being stupid. Honestly, surprised they would do that. Of course Trump mentioning how much he loved wikileaks in about a thousand speeches was stupid too.

We agree this is a waste of time though Im a liberal and I hate this thread for that reason. Hillary lost mainly cause she was boring; her husband and Trump proved if you're a charismatics speaker you can overcome scandals. Better to go out and register people or do volunteering for democrats if you're upset instead people screeching autistically about Trump and Muh Russia over and over throughout the country. Also, crying wolf about this horseshit and blowing it out of proportion leads people to tune you out when something big does happen.

AaronY
11-14-2017, 03:17 PM
Also, it’s funny that two posters accuse me of parroting GOP talking points and being brainwashed by their media when I neither am a republican nor consume MSM. Political debates have devolved into both sides accusing the other of being biased while being biased themselves. It’s kind of like putting on your favorite football teams gear and cheering for them just because. I’m surprised that people still support American political parties. Only thing that’s changed is people superficially deny affiliation with the party they support but continue to support them by simply focusing their attacks on the other party and never on the one they secretly support. If we could pull the voting records of some of you disaffected Democrats we’d all get a good laugh. Same with the republican voters but there aren’t as many here.
I apologize but it did come off as ridiculous since the uranium one stuff started recently and the investigation and the Russia stuff been going on since last year. Kind of caught me off guard. Honestly, legit apologize.

Mark Celibate
11-14-2017, 03:21 PM
I apologize but it did come off as ridiculous since the uranium one stuff started recently and the investigation and the Russia stuff been going on since last year. Kind of caught me off guard. Honestly, legit apologize.
I read about uranium one in a book back in 2015. It’s recently come up in media but has been a long known thing. No worries.

RandomGuy
11-14-2017, 03:43 PM
Are Trumps comments on Putin during the recent trip to Asia consistent with the theory "Trump has been compromised in some way by the Russians." ?????


Stop quoting me discussing Seth Rich if you don't want to discuss it.

:cry

Boo-fucking-hoo snowflake. Get a helmet.

The answer is yes, everything Trump does and says is fully consistant with the theory that "Donald Trump has been compromised by the Russians". Unlike your stupid shit that falls apart the first time it is exposed to reality.

RandomGuy
11-14-2017, 03:48 PM
I don't think people here think they tampered with votes. I don't bother reading all this horeshit though. They got Hillary's emails and posted them because Putin was mad when she interfered in his election and they used bots and paid operatives to post lies on social media. I guess some of the Trump people talked to Russians and Assange and thats on them for being stupid. Honestly, surprised they would do that. Of course Trump mentioning how much he loved wikileaks in about a thousand speeches was stupid too.

We agree this is a waste of time though Im a liberal and I hate this thread for that reason. Hillary lost mainly cause she was boring; her husband and Trump proved if you're a charismatics speaker you can overcome scandals. Better to go out and register people or do volunteering for democrats if you're upset instead people screeching autistically about Trump and Muh Russia over and over throughout the country. Also, crying wolf about this horseshit and blowing it out of proportion leads people to tune you out when something big does happen.

Been registering people. I would be a lot less pissed about the Russia thing, if conservatives weren't so blatantly poo-pooing it the way Democrats glossed over Bill's sex stuff.

The difference, though is the sex stuff didn't involve a hostile foreign government. You gotta admit that takes it to another level.

FuzzyLumpkins
11-14-2017, 03:51 PM
Also, it’s funny that two posters accuse me of parroting GOP talking points and being brainwashed by their media when I neither am a republican nor consume MSM. Political debates have devolved into both sides accusing the other of being biased while being biased themselves. It’s kind of like putting on your favorite football teams gear and cheering for them just because. I’m surprised that people still support American political parties. Only thing that’s changed is people superficially deny affiliation with the party they support but continue to support them by simply focusing their attacks on the other party and never on the one they secretly support. If we could pull the voting records of some of you disaffected Democrats we’d all get a good laugh. Same with the republican voters but there aren’t as many here.

Oh so you came up with the exact same takes as their talking points all on your own. . . . :rolleyes

Chris
11-14-2017, 03:53 PM
I don't think I don't bother reading Im a liberal

:cry legit apologize :cry

AaronY
11-14-2017, 04:15 PM
:cry legit apologize :cry
I like Bump he's generally a good guy. Was worried he was becoming a worthless partisan retard like yourself. God help me if I come in here in a few weeks and the only way he can contribute is to post Ben Garrison cartoons and memes from The Donald.

AaronY
11-14-2017, 04:17 PM
Honestly going back to partisan bias I would spend more time attacking Bernie who I fucking hate as I think his plans to turn the govt into Santa Clause and pay people $30k a year to bag groceries would be a catastrophe for the economy but hes not much of a threat right now. There will be like a dem civil war in a few years though. When I watched that Sanders-Cruz debate I was pretty much shocked at how Bernie pretty much is a socialist and wants to try all that shit again like the 20th century never happened. Like $15 minimum wage, free college, unviersal healthcare (which I like but would a huge ordeal just to do that alone), plus I even read he supports Universal Basic Income which is literally paying people for doing nothing

spurraider21
11-14-2017, 04:42 PM
I read about uranium one in a book back in 2015. It’s recently come up in media but has been a long known thing. No worries.
:lol clinton cash

Pavlov
11-14-2017, 04:45 PM
:lol clinton cash:lol All part of my totes nonpartisan reading list.

RandomGuy
11-14-2017, 04:48 PM
Honestly going back to partisan bias I would spend more time attacking Bernie who I fucking hate as I think his plans to turn the govt into Santa Clause and pay people $30k a year to bag groceries would be a catastrophe for the economy but hes not much of a threat right now. There will be like a dem civil war in a few years though. When I watched that Sanders-Cruz debate I was pretty much shocked at how Bernie pretty much is a socialist and wants to try all that shit again like the 20th century never happened. Like $15 minimum wage, free college, unviersal healthcare (which I like but would a huge ordeal just to do that alone), plus I even read he supports Universal Basic Income which is literally paying people for doing nothing

Why is universal income bad?

What do people do with it, if you give it to them? Like any real-world evidence on that?
.

Chucho
11-14-2017, 04:56 PM
Why is universal income bad?

What do people do with it, if you give it to them? Like any real-world evidence on that?
.

Why couldn't they establish a universal work-for-welfare program for people who can't find employment? Do what Eisenhauer did when he had a whole lot of jobless on his hands after WW2- put them to work. We have a whole lot of infrastructure that needs maintenance and we will have a whole lot of capable bodies needing the work instead of awarding over priced government contracts on a favors-system.

Chucho
11-14-2017, 04:58 PM
The money's there, the labor force is there. Instead of not seeing a return on the money, why wouldn't fixing our deteriorating infrastructure be a good return on the tax dollar?

DarrinS
11-14-2017, 05:29 PM
The money's there, the labor force is there. Instead of not seeing a return on the money, why wouldn't fixing our deteriorating infrastructure be a good return on the tax dollar?

Those jobs require skilled labor.

Chucho
11-14-2017, 05:31 PM
Those jobs require skilled labor.

So, train them to be skilled. Pavings streets and laying concrete doesn't take geniuses.

DarrinS
11-14-2017, 05:33 PM
So, train them to be skilled. Pavings streets and laying concrete doesn't take geniuses.

It’s not rocket science, but there’s more to it than most people realize.

Chucho
11-14-2017, 05:35 PM
It’s not rocket science, but there’s more to it than most people realize.

And people who don't work can do more than they realize. Some productivity> No productivity.

RandomGuy
11-14-2017, 05:55 PM
Why couldn't they establish a universal work-for-welfare program for people who can't find employment? Do what Eisenhauer did when he had a whole lot of jobless on his hands after WW2- put them to work. We have a whole lot of infrastructure that needs maintenance and we will have a whole lot of capable bodies needing the work instead of awarding over priced government contracts on a favors-system.

We don't have the unemployed, and no one would want to do it. Easy to get bodies to fill stuff when you have 20% unemployment, not so much 4.5%.

I would point out welfare has a work requirement already, in addition to lifetime caps. It isn't the big bad socialist boogey man that people remember. That doesn't stop people from using it as a punching bag to get people riled up, though.

RandomGuy
11-14-2017, 05:57 PM
The money's there, the labor force is there. Instead of not seeing a return on the money, why wouldn't fixing our deteriorating infrastructure be a good return on the tax dollar?

Welfare money tends to bounce around the economy, because it is given to people who pretty much have to spend every penny on the basics, as opposed to tax breaks for the wealthy, who will stick their money in a static investment.

Reck
11-14-2017, 06:10 PM
930564811867516929

Dems jizzing it up again.

This is what they're doing with their built momentum. :lol

Save this shit till after you actually can?

djohn2oo8
11-14-2017, 06:26 PM
930502489979412481
Putin ready to cut bait.

DarrinS
11-14-2017, 06:29 PM
930564811867516929

Dems jizzing it up again.

This is what they're doing with their built momentum. :lol

Save this shit till after you actually can?



You went and did it. Now djohn has to clean his belly. :lol

djohn2oo8
11-14-2017, 06:30 PM
You went and did it. Now djohn has to clean his belly. :lol

Living rent free in your head, Susie.

TSA
11-14-2017, 06:34 PM
930502489979412481
Putin ready to cut bait.

"Seven nations had federal elections during the span when the funds were sent — including the Duma, Russia’s lower house of Parliament, on Sept. 18, 2016. Russian embassies and diplomatic compounds opened polling stations for voters living abroad."

:rollin

DarrinS
11-14-2017, 06:35 PM
Living rent free in your head, Susie.

Yeah, you’re a very obscure poster in this thread you created. :lol

djohn2oo8
11-14-2017, 06:40 PM
I got them Guhs pantehs all wet. ^

RandomGuy
11-14-2017, 06:45 PM
"Seven nations had federal elections during the span when the funds were sent — including the Duma, Russia’s lower house of Parliament, on Sept. 18, 2016. Russian embassies and diplomatic compounds opened polling stations for voters living abroad."

:rollin

That would be my interpretation, given the timing. Much ado about nothing.

Tells you where they are looking though.

djohn2oo8
11-14-2017, 06:53 PM
That would be my interpretation, given the timing. Much ado about nothing.

Tells you where they are looking though.

Its a story directed from Putin. Just like when that Russian Lawyer publicly said Jr had asked for Hillary dirt in the meeting. And lol no. Not much ado about nothing.

boutons_deux
11-15-2017, 06:01 AM
Colbert on DJTjr, Trash in Asia, Sessions destroyed, and sleazebag Moore, even you rightwing bubba sleezebags will chuckle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5mu5s_yDwU

boutons_deux
11-15-2017, 07:10 AM
Just like Pootin does in USA :lol

At Least 30 Countries Use Social Media to Influence Elections Across the World

Governments in Venezuela, the Philippines, Turkey and elsewhere use social media to influence elections, drive agendas and counter critics, says report.

https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/thirty-countries-use-armies-opinion-shapers-manipulate-democracy

boutons_deux
11-15-2017, 07:31 AM
This is How Grown-Ups Deal With Putin (j/k)

“It is Russia’s actions which threaten the international order on which we all depend,” May said on Monday night at the Lord Mayor’s banquet in London, where she delivered the kind of tough-minded message to the Kremlin that American presidents used to send:

I want to be clear about the scale and nature of these actions.

Russia’s illegal annexation of Crimea was the first time since the Second World War that one sovereign nation has forcibly taken territory from another in Europe.

Since then, Russia has fomented violence in the Donbas, repeatedly violated the air space of several European countries, and mounted a sustained campaign of cyberespionage and disruption.

This has included meddling in elections and hacking the Danish Ministry of Defense and the Bundestag, among many others.

It is seeking to weaponize information, deploying its state-run media organizations to plant fake stories and Photoshopped images in an attempt to sow discord in the West and undermine our institutions.


May had a “very simple message” for the Kremlin.

“We know what you were doing and you will not succeed,” :lol :lol :lol :lol

she said,

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/14/opinion/putin-trump-theresa-may.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

Does this stupid, ignorant CONSERVATIVE lady realize that BREXIT that she so enthusiastically supports is part of the Pootin plot to divide and weaken Europe?

iow, Pootin has ALREADY SUCCEEDED by getting BREXIT passed. :lol

Nigel Farage was/is the champion of BREXIT, as a Pootin operative.

===========

Of course Nigel Farage is a player in the Russia story

https://newrepublic.com/minutes/143029/course-nigel-farage-player-russia-story (https://newrepublic.com/minutes/143029/course-nigel-farage-player-russia-story)

==============

Again, as in the USA and Repugs, it's the British conservatives who love getting cornholed by Pootin.

pgardn
11-15-2017, 07:45 AM
This is How Grown-Ups Deal With Putin (j/k)

“It is Russia’s actions which threaten the international order on which we all depend,” May said on Monday night at the Lord Mayor’s banquet in London, where she delivered the kind of tough-minded message to the Kremlin that American presidents used to send:

I want to be clear about the scale and nature of these actions.

Russia’s illegal annexation of Crimea was the first time since the Second World War that one sovereign nation has forcibly taken territory from another in Europe.

Since then, Russia has fomented violence in the Donbas, repeatedly violated the air space of several European countries, and mounted a sustained campaign of cyberespionage and disruption.

This has included meddling in elections and hacking the Danish Ministry of Defense and the Bundestag, among many others.

It is seeking to weaponize information, deploying its state-run media organizations to plant fake stories and Photoshopped images in an attempt to sow discord in the West and undermine our institutions.


May had a “very simple message” for the Kremlin.

“We know what you were doing and you will not succeed,” :lol :lol :lol :lol

she said,

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/14/opinion/putin-trump-theresa-may.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

Does this stupid, ignorant CONSERVATIVE lady realize that BREXIT that she so enthusiastically supports is part of the Pootin plot to divide and weaken Europe?

iow, Pootin has ALREADY SUCCEEDED by getting BREXIT passed. :lol

Nigel Farage was/is the champion of BREXIT, as a Pootin operative.

===========

Of course Nigel Farage is a player in the Russia story

https://newrepublic.com/minutes/143029/course-nigel-farage-player-russia-story (https://newrepublic.com/minutes/143029/course-nigel-farage-player-russia-story)

==============

Again, as in the USA and Repugs, it's the British conservatives who love getting cornholed by Pootin.




You have again gone overboard with one party. So you were unaware that the Russians also put up false stories about police brutality and race incidents in the US to incite people like you as well. The idea is to sow discord ON BOTH SIDES.

dabom
11-15-2017, 07:53 AM
You have again gone overboard with one party. So you were unaware that the Russians also put up false stories about police brutality and race incidents in the US to incite people like you as well. The idea is to sow discord ON BOTH SIDES.

Yes pudding hurt both sides equally. :lol

Quadzilla99
11-15-2017, 10:15 AM
You have again gone overboard with one party. So you were unaware that the Russians also put up false stories about police brutality and race incidents in the US to incite people like you as well. The idea is to sow discord ON BOTH SIDES.

Republicans hacked both the RNC and DNC but released only the DNC emails

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/10/politics/comey-republicans-hacked-russia/index.html

boutons_deux
11-15-2017, 02:11 PM
Russian Twitter accounts promoted Brexit ahead of EU referendum: Times newspaper

Russian Twitter accounts posted almost 45,000 messages about Brexit in the 48 hours around last year’s referendum

in an attempt to sow discord during the vote on whether to leave the European Union, the Times newspaper reported on Wednesday.

The Times cited research from an upcoming paper by data scientists at Swansea University and the University of California, Berkeley, which it said showed accounts based in Russia had tweeted about Brexit in the days leading up to the June 23 vote.

The Times said

most of the tweets seen by the newspaper encouraged people to vote for Brexit,

although a number advocated remaining in the EU. It quoted Tho Pham, one of the paper’s authors, as saying “the main conclusion is that bots were used on purpose and had influence”.

The research tracked 156,252 Russian accounts that mentioned #Brexit, including one, Svetal1972 which posted 92 tweets between June 20 and 24, including one

calling for Britain to “make June the 23rd our Independence Day”.

It said many of the messages appear to have come from automated accounts known as bots or from cyborg accounts which are heavily automated but have some human involvement.

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/russian-twitter-accounts-promoted-brexit-ahead-of-eu-referendum-times-newspaper/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/russian-twitter-accounts-promoted-brexit-ahead-of-eu-referendum-times-newspaper/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)

boutons_deux
11-15-2017, 03:06 PM
Trump campaign was a chaotic, bumbling mess, except for its consistency on one issue: Russia (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/14/1715633/-Trump-campaign-was-a-chaotic-bumbling-mess-except-for-its-consistency-on-one-issue-Russia)

https://images.dailykos.com/images/472526/story_image/GettyImages-874154370.jpg?1510687588

Its essence is that the Trump campaign was such an ungodly, bumbling mess that

it was simply incapable of colluding with the Russians in their campaign to undermine Hillary Clinton,
help Donald Trump get elected, and
generally disrupt and discredit the American electoral system.

As weaselly a defense as that may seem, it contains a good bit of truth.

With each new revelation about the campaign’s contacts with Russia, a picture is filling out.

It’s one not of a well-organized collusion conspiracy, but instead of

a bunch of nincompoops engaging in a kind of ongoing, ad hoc, fitful sort-of-collusion,

one that involved lots of meetings,

lots of emails, and

lots of contacts between various Russians with Kremlin connections and people at different levels of the campaign.

just because Trump's campaign was stacked with a battalion of rogue "nincompoops" doesn't relieve them of culpability.

Regardless of how muddled the campaign hierarchy was, it was riddled with attempts to connect with Russian operatives. Just look at this cursory list:



Trump repeatedly heaped praise on Russian President Vladimir Putin, openly begged Russia to hack Hillary Clinton's emails and declared his "love" for Wikileaks (a "hostile intelligence service (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cia-director-calls-wikileaks-a-non-state-hostile-intelligence-service/)" that was often abetted by "state actors like Russia"), mentioning the site 145 times (https://twitter.com/mmurraypolitics/status/930229972203200512) during the final month of the campaign.
Don Jr., Jared Kushner, and campaign chair Paul Manafort all met with several Russians at Trump Tower, including a Kremlin-linked lawyer and a former Russian counterintelligence officer (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/russian-lawyer-brought-ex-soviet-counter-intelligence-officer-trump-team-n782851).
Don Jr. further communicated and coordinated (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/13/1715302/-Trump-campaign-coordinated-directly-with-Wikileaks-to-push-stolen-emails-provided-by-Russia) with Wikileaks, the service that was distributing the emails Russian hackers stole (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/14/1715465/-The-Wikileaks-Trump-Jr-shows-a-conspiracy-and-that-Wikileaks-is-an-absolute-fraud) from the Clinton campaign.
Jeff Sessions talked with Russian Ambassador Surgey Kislyak—twice, and reportedly was informed of the Russian contacts of both Papadopoulos and Page, regardless of his faltering memory.



Mike Flynn had repeated contacts with Kislyak during the campaign and transition; he also received a payment in 2015 (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/07/us/politics/trump-russia-flynn-kushner.html) from the Russian state media company, RT.
Carter Page made a speech in Moscow in 2016 and spoke with Russian government officials while he was there; he also met with (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2017/11/a_timeline_of_carter_page_s_contacts_with_russia.h tml) Ambassador Kislyak at the Republican National Convention in Cleveland.
George Papadopoulos had multiple contacts with Russians, some of whom were connected to Putin; he told campaign aides (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/whos-who-in-the-george-papadopoulos-court-documents/2017/10/30/e131158c-bdb3-11e7-97d9-bdab5a0ab381_story.html?utm_term=.f49d06b2014d) Corey Lewandowski, Paul Manafort, Sam Clovis, and Stephen Miller (http://www.businessinsider.com/george-papadopoulos-stephen-miller-trump-russia-clinton-2017-11) about those contacts.


These are just the top lines of what we in the public know;

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/14/1715633/-Trump-campaign-was-a-chaotic-bumbling-mess-except-for-its-consistency-on-one-issue-Russia?detail=emaildkre

pgardn
11-15-2017, 05:19 PM
Republicans hacked both the RNC and DNC but released only the DNC emails

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/10/politics/comey-republicans-hacked-russia/index.html

What? Republicans are hacking...

Bottomline:

Russia's motive is to create chaos. They put out a lot of fake stuff to suit the needs of conservatives and liberal pet peeves. Unfortunately our president is somehow blind to this. If you really think Russia is excited about Trump... No. The chaos has now led to unpredictability with how the US might react. They don't like this at all. Creating discord, check. Making the US "behave", No.

I guarantee there are people within the Kremlin that would rather deal with Clinton. The Russians understand unintended consequences, they are not stupid, just horribly corrupt and authoritarian. People on this board try to assign clear cut moves and tie them to outcomes.... the world does not work this way. It never has.

RandomGuy
11-15-2017, 06:14 PM
I guarantee there are people within the Kremlin that would rather deal with Clinton. The Russians understand unintended consequences, they are not stupid, just horribly corrupt and authoritarian. People on this board try to assign clear cut moves and tie them to outcomes.... the world does not work this way. It never has.

Some yes. But the vast majority of Russian efforts benefitted Trumps campaign over Clinton. This was reflective of Russian government views.
https://www.vice.com/sv/article/8qbbdx/why-putin-hates-clinton-and-helped-trump-win

I have read multiple analyses that all say the Russian government hated Clinton, and viewed Trump as both more friendly, and easily manipulated.

If you want to say that anyone in the Russian government would rather deal with Clinton, I whole-heartedly encourage you to attempt to support that assertion. Don't take my word for it, get out there and see what you can find.

They hated Clinton, and still do.

RandomGuy
11-15-2017, 06:15 PM
a bunch of nincompoops engaging in a kind of ongoing, ad hoc, fitful sort-of-collusion,

If I could re-name this thread, that would be it. Sums up the whole thing rather aptly.

Chris
11-15-2017, 07:30 PM
Steve King goes HAM

VT9FxHx-_2Q

"all of this leads to Barack Obama..."

Pavlov
11-15-2017, 07:32 PM
Steve King goes HAM

VT9FxHx-_2Q

"all of this leads to Barack Obama..."Steve Ding tbh.

boutons_deux
11-15-2017, 07:34 PM
If I could re-name this thread, that would be it. Sums up the whole thing rather aptly.


nincompoops ... so nasty! :lol

entitled, amoral, immoral, corrupt, lying pricks, all of them

Ivanka says if the tax cut for her rotten ilk passes, I'll be able to hire tutors to teach Mandarin to the neighborhood kids.

Chris
11-15-2017, 08:12 PM
Steve Ding tbh.

That's right just pull the covers over your head, and ding away the scary monsters :lol

Pavlov
11-15-2017, 08:13 PM
That's right just pull the covers over your head, and ding away the scary monsters :lolThis post is ironic.

Tell me what needs to be investigated in your own words, Chris.

Chris
11-15-2017, 08:21 PM
This post is ironic.

Tell me what needs to be investigated in your own words, Chris.

No we're not playing that game. Did you have something to say about the video, or are you still too cynical to learn anything?

Pavlov
11-15-2017, 08:25 PM
No we're not playing that game. Did you have something to say about the video, or are you still too cynical to learn anything?I learned you don't really want to discuss these issues you claim to be important.

DarrinS
11-15-2017, 09:40 PM
So six moonbat dems introduced articles of impeachment today. Why’d they leave poor Maxine out? :lol

boutons_deux
11-16-2017, 07:22 AM
Mike Pence Can't Keep His Lies Straight, and It's Starting to Catch Up with Him

Does the VP expect us to believe he knew nothing of Don Jr.'s contact with Wikileaks?

It's time for another round of "Is Mike Pence actually as incompetent as he looks, or is he just a liar?"

Despite a flat denial previously offered by then-vice presidential candidate Mike Pence, the direct message transcripts appear to show the president’s oldest son communicating with WikiLeaks between September 2016 and July 2017.

On the same morning Pence claimed on Fox News that the Trump campaign wasn't "in cahoots" with WikiLeaks -- which was then orchestrating the release of Hillary Clinton’s hacked emails -- Trump Jr. tweeted out a link reportedly provided to him by WikiLeaks.

“Nothing could be further from the truth,” Pence told (https://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/mike-pence-denies-trump-wikileaks-229786) “Fox & Friends” co-host Steve Doocy when asked on Oct. 14, 2016, about reports of coordination between the Trump campaign and WikiLeaks.

So what did Mike Pence not know and when did he not know it?

Are we to continue to believe that Pence was not "in the know," or

are we to believe that he has repeatedly been untruthful?

Recall that on March 9, Pence claimed on Fox News that he had only just heard about Michael Flynn’s lobbying on behalf of the Turkish government.

A May report indicated, however, that during the presidential transition, Flynn had informed Pence's team that he was under federal investigation for not properly disclosing the paid work back in January.

Pence also said during the transition that Flynn had not discussed sanctions with the Russian ambassador, which also turned out to be untrue.

On a different occasion, Pence said the transition was not seeking a security clearance for Flynn's son, Michael Flynn Jr., which was also false.

Pence’s story this time around is apparently that he was somehow the odd man out -- yet again.

challenging, at minimum, to believe Pence had no idea.

Whether the vice president has any knowledge of or involvement in collusion between the Trump campaign and Russian agents remains unknown,

but he is certainly up to his eyeballs in falsehoods and deceptions on the matter.

Unfortunately for Pence, appearing to be clueless and incompetent is not a defense that will protect him from Robert Mueller or other investigators.

https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/mike-pence-cant-keep-his-lies-straight-and-its-starting-catch-him

boutons_deux
11-16-2017, 09:04 AM
Pence

https://www.facebook.com/fullfrontalsamb/videos/2119347628292872/

djohn2oo8
11-16-2017, 02:46 PM
931245265176035328

Yonivore
11-16-2017, 03:01 PM
So, no one else finds it strange that the Hillary Clinton's campaign attorney, Marc Elias (Perkins Coie), hired Fusion GPS who hired ex-MI6 agent Christopher Steele who colluded with the Russians to compile a fake dossier to try and affect U.S. Election?

Further, the founder of Fusion GPS colluded with Russian attorney to entrap Donald Trump, Jr.

In short, Hillary colluded with the Russians to make it look like Trump colluded with the Russians and we're all okay with this?

boutons_deux
11-16-2017, 03:02 PM
Remember, one of Kushner's first faux pas was trying setting a crypto channel from the WH to Putin, to be beyond the reach of US IC.

Pavlov
11-16-2017, 03:03 PM
So, no one else finds it strange that the Hillary Clinton's campaign attorney, Marc Elias (Perkins Coie), hired Fusion GPS who hired ex-MI6 agent Christopher Steele who colluded with the Russians to compile a fake dossier to try and affect U.S. Election?

Further, the founder of Fusion GPS colluded with Russian attorney to entrap Donald Trump, Jr.

In short, Hillary colluded with the Russians to make it look like Trump colluded with the Russians and we're all okay with this?

Fusion GPS hired the Russians who had hired Fusion GPS who had been hired by the law firm who had been hired by the Clinton campaign to entrap them!

WAKE UP

ALSO MURDERS

boutons_deux
11-16-2017, 03:04 PM
"fake dossier"

except for pee whores, nearly everything in your "fake" dossier, initially unbelievable, has been discovered to be UNfake.

I read that videos of the Trash and Pee Whores (his emo/punk band after he leaves the WH) are around in various hands.

RandomGuy
11-16-2017, 03:08 PM
So, no one else finds it strange that the Hillary Clinton's campaign attorney, Marc Elias (Perkins Coie), hired Fusion GPS who hired ex-MI6 agent Christopher Steele who colluded with the Russians to compile a fake dossier to try and affect U.S. Election?

Further, the founder of Fusion GPS colluded with Russian attorney to entrap Donald Trump, Jr.

In short, Hillary colluded with the Russians to make it look like Trump colluded with the Russians and we're all okay with this?

Do you not find it strange that Trump publicly called for Russia to find "Hillary's emails", after top-level staffers in his campaign had been emailing about meeting Russians for these emails?

Spurminator
11-16-2017, 03:29 PM
So, no one else finds it strange that the Hillary Clinton's campaign attorney, Marc Elias (Perkins Coie), hired Fusion GPS who hired ex-MI6 agent Christopher Steele who colluded with the Russians to compile a fake dossier to try and affect U.S. Election?

Further, the founder of Fusion GPS colluded with Russian attorney to entrap Donald Trump, Jr.

In short, Hillary colluded with the Russians to make it look like Trump colluded with the Russians and we're all okay with this?


where's your proof