View Full Version : Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions
Pavlov
05-11-2018, 01:11 AM
1. Mueller indicts 13 Russian troll farms thinking they won't show up to court.
2. Russians show up to court.
3. Mueller's team asks for more time. (:lol)
4. Judge says "Nah" (:lol)
5. Now Mueller has to share his "evidence" with the Russian lawyers (:lol)
6. :lmao
Why are you cheering for Russia?
Winehole23
05-11-2018, 02:24 AM
To own the libs. Anything's worth doing for that.
djohn2oo8
05-11-2018, 08:45 AM
To own the libs. Anything's worth doing for that.
There is a word for people like that and it starts with a T.
spurraider21
05-11-2018, 10:00 AM
1. Mueller indicts 13 Russian troll farms thinking they won't show up to court.
2. Russians show up to court.
3. Mueller's team asks for more time. (:lol)
4. Judge says "Nah" (:lol)
5. Now Mueller has to share his "evidence" with the Russian lawyers (:lol)
6. :lmao
Cheering for enemies of USA good now
Winehole23
05-11-2018, 10:01 AM
There is a word for people like that and it starts with a T.eh, I don't know about that. I see a lot of motivated reasoning and negative partisanship (https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/pops.12479) on both sides.
calling people you disagree with traitors is weak sauce, tbh
Winehole23
05-11-2018, 10:03 AM
I also think it's overstatement to call Russia an enemy of the US.
spurraider21
05-11-2018, 10:12 AM
I also think it's overstatement to call Russia an enemy of the US.
What about the the specific entities indicted
djohn2oo8
05-11-2018, 10:12 AM
eh, I don't know about that. I see a lot of motivated reasoning and negative partisanship (https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/pops.12479) on both sides.
calling people you disagree with traitors is weak sauce, tbh
No. People who root for other countries, hostile adversaries above theirs, who have launched attacks on their country is treasonous. Fuck em. You may not agree. Do not care. Party affiliations should not stand in the way of acknowledging potential criminal wrongdoing, especially when it comes to national security. I don't give a damn about "owning" a party. I want accountability no matter where the chips fall. Yes, liberals were involved in this as well. The rule of law is more important than deflecting the truth.
Winehole23
05-11-2018, 10:20 AM
What about the the specific entities indictedthe troll farms and such?
Winehole23
05-11-2018, 10:22 AM
I can see the rhetorical appeal of that, perhaps the legal underpinning gives it a bit of color.
The US has meddled in scores of foreign elections; does that make people in those countries who cheer for the US traitors in their own?
Winehole23
05-11-2018, 10:24 AM
No. People who root for other countries, hostile adversaries above theirs, who have launched attacks on their country is treasonous. Fuck em. You may not agree. Do not care. Party affiliations should not stand in the way of acknowledging potential criminal wrongdoing, especially when it comes to national security. I don't give a damn about "owning" a party. I want accountability no matter where the chips fall. Yes, liberals were involved in this as well. The rule of law is more important than deflecting the truth.so, Spurstalkers who cheer for Russia are traitors and should be prosecuted for "launching attacks on their own country"?
Spurminator
05-11-2018, 10:27 AM
Treason/traitorous implies a more than negligible importance to a specific person's loyalty. I doubt any SpursTalker here has the kind of influence to qualify as a traitor.
Pathetic loser? Absolutely.
djohn2oo8
05-11-2018, 10:28 AM
so, Spurstalkers who cheer for Russia are traitors and should be prosecuted for "launching attacks on their own country"?
You are engaging in the behavior I am talking about. Sorry, not entertaining your ignorance. Neither will the rule of law.
boutons_deux
05-11-2018, 10:29 AM
so, Spurstalkers who cheer for Russia are traitors and should be prosecuted for "launching attacks on their own country"?
One of the points I've observed here is that rightwingnutjob/gun-fellator sheeple think politics is a sport, or a cult, and fan/cult loyalty is the highest virtue, no matter WTF the team/cult is saying (to be followed reflexively like good sheeple) or doing.
Trash has certainly exposed his base and the 80% of Repugs who STILL approve of him.
djohn2oo8
05-11-2018, 10:30 AM
Treason/traitorous implies a more than negligible importance to a specific person's loyalty. I doubt any SpursTalker here has the kind of influence to qualify as a traitor.
Pathetic loser? Absolutely.
Fair enough
Winehole23
05-11-2018, 10:34 AM
Treason consists of levying war against the US or giving tangible help to its enemies. Hard to see how ST shitposts qualify.
Winehole23
05-11-2018, 10:35 AM
You are engaging in the behavior I am talking about. Sorry, not entertaining your ignorance. Neither will the rule of law.what behavior?
what ignorance?
I'm aware of the legal definition. Shitposting on online forums doesn't clear the bar.
djohn2oo8
05-11-2018, 10:54 AM
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Yup
Blake
05-11-2018, 10:57 AM
yall bitches have a warped sense of entitlement. i owe you not a damn thing bitch. as well, yall think everyone's mad because they cuss or whatever here. i just think you're a bitch is all.
now go fuck yourself you stupid bitch.
don't care about your socialist utopia bs... pay for it and stop being a mooch.
i'm plenty calm. actually really calm atm.
:lol
Winehole23
05-11-2018, 11:02 AM
djohn2008 thinks I'm a traitor because I won't call ST shitposters traitors.
let the chips fall.
Quadzilla99
05-11-2018, 11:11 AM
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Yup
But dat Clinton Cash etc
Chucho
05-11-2018, 11:30 AM
djohn2008 thinks I'm a traitor because I won't call ST shitposters traitors.
let the chips fall.
djohn is retarded. He's the exact same person as Chris. The only difference is the side of the fence he keeps himself behind.
koriwhat
05-11-2018, 11:58 AM
But dat Clinton Cash etc
lmao no doubt right?
boutons_deux
05-11-2018, 12:47 PM
I thought it was Repug racism when Repug pols and Repug supporters were clearly trashing their hated knitter Obama while preferring, praising white Putin (who is also a Repug-compatible racist, LGBT-hater, etc).
Now we see that Putin and HIS mafiya have been (trying to) compromising Repugs for years, apart from Repug racism.
Seeing that Putin is a military, economic, America-attacking enemy, the Repugs are fucking TRAITORS to America just as they are traitors to the Common Good by whoring themselves to the oligarchy.
boutons_deux
05-11-2018, 02:36 PM
House Republicans are literally trying to 'break' the law—as in cripple the DOJ and FBI (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/5/11/1763603/-House-Republicans-are-literally-trying-to-break-the-law-as-in-cripple-the-DOJ-and-FBI)
Freedom Caucus chair Mark Meadows's new tact is to push for a federal audit of Robert Mueller under the guise of oversight in order to get an unredacted copy of the "scope memo," which lays out the boundaries of his Russia investigation.
The Washington Postwrites (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2018/05/10/in-bid-to-reveal-secret-memo-meadows-plans-to-seek-federal-audit-of-mueller-probe/?utm_term=.f854dd7888ce):
Meadows, speaking Thursday during a taping of C-SPAN’s “Newsmakers” that is to air Sunday, said he believed the audit is required under federal law and could not be completed without an unredacted copy of the memo written in August 2017 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/apps/g/page/politics/newly-disclosed-justice-department-memo-authorized-special-counsel-scope/2297/) by Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein. [...]
Meadows and fellow Freedom Caucus member Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) has pushed for weeks to get unfettered access to the memo, but the Justice Department has so far refused them access.
As the New York Times reported (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/02/us/politics/trump-justice-department-house-republicans.html) a couple weeks ago:
Mr. Rosenstein and top F.B.I. officials have come to suspect that some lawmakers were using their oversight authority to gain intelligence about that investigation so that it could be shared with the White House.
Meadows’s latest bid to undermine the probe is part of a battery of outright assaults Republicans have unleashed on the Justice Department, the FBI and the Mueller investigation.
Meadows, House Intelligence Chair Devin Nunes, and their compatriots have threatened both Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and also Russia-recused Attorney General Jeff Sessions with being held in contempt of Congress (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/5/7/1762625/-Nunes-threatens-to-hold-Sessions-in-contempt-for-not-turning-over-documents-he-doesn-t-even-read) and impeached.
This complete and total breakdown of oversight norms, practices and cooperation
between lawmakers and our nation’s top law enforcement agencies has taken place
with the explicit backing of House Speaker Paul Ryan,
who sided with Nunes & Co. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/nunes-confrontation-with-justice-department-appears-to-ease/2018/05/10/155f6c42-548f-11e8-a551-5b648abe29ef_story.html?utm_term=.2b481d5b31a7) yet again this week.
Ryan said he thought the Justice Department should have answered Nunes’s questions on the matter much earlier.
“This request is perfectly appropriate within the scope of the committee’s investigation, and I hope and believe and expect that they’ll be complied with.”
History should never forget the corrupt governing practices Paul Ryan presided over during his short time as speaker, and
the long-lasting harm he has done to the institution he took an oath to lead and the country he swore to protect.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1763603
Bitch Mc and Paul "Ayn Rand" Ryan, 100% corrupt assholes, fucking up America
koriwhat
05-11-2018, 02:39 PM
I thought it was Repug racism when Repug pols and Repug supporters were clearly trashing their hated knitter Obama while preferring, praising white Putin (who is also a Repug-compatible racist, LGBT-hater, etc).
Now we see that Putin and HIS mafiya have been (trying to) compromising Repugs for years, apart from Repug racism.
Seeing that Putin is a military, economic, America-attacking enemy, the Repugs are fucking TRAITORS to America just as they are traitors to the Common Good by whoring themselves to the oligarchy.
you're such a fucking cry baby.
Chris
05-11-2018, 03:06 PM
So having a take = shitposting
Got it :tu
boutons_deux
05-11-2018, 03:10 PM
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... because they knew that Pootin was trying to compromise Trash's entourage. That was a great idea, better the US catches the traitors, before Pootin does.
Chris
05-11-2018, 04:26 PM
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Pavlov
05-11-2018, 04:31 PM
994981427044372480Yeah! A Wikipedia page was even edited!
djohn2oo8
05-11-2018, 04:31 PM
So having a take = shitposting
Got it :tu
Having a shit take = shitposting.
Pavlov
05-11-2018, 04:45 PM
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Man, those M-16 spies are the worst!
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About That FBI ‘Source’
The Department of Justice lost its latest battle with Congress Thursday when it agreed to brief House Intelligence Committee members about a top-secret intelligence source that was part of the FBI’s investigation of the Trump campaign. Even without official confirmation of that source’s name, the news so far holds some stunning implications.
Among them is that the Justice Department and Federal Bureau of Investigation outright hid critical information from a congressional investigation. In a Thursday press conference, Speaker Paul Ryan bluntly noted that Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes’s request for details on this secret source was “wholly appropriate,” “completely within the scope” of the committee’s long-running FBI investigation, and “something that probably should have been answered a while ago.” Translation: The department knew full well it should have turned this material over to congressional investigators last year, but instead deliberately concealed it.
House investigators nonetheless sniffed out a name, and Mr. Nunes in recent weeks issued a letter and a subpoena demanding more details. Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein’s response was to double down—accusing the House of “extortion” and delivering a speech in which he claimed that “declining to open the FBI’s files to review” is a constitutional “duty.” Justice asked the White House to back its stonewall. And it even began spinning that daddy of all superspook arguments—that revealing any detail about this particular asset could result in “loss of human lives.”
This is desperation, and it strongly suggests that whatever is in these files is going to prove very uncomfortable to the FBI.
The bureau already has some explaining to do. Thanks to the Washington Post’s unnamed law-enforcement leakers, we know Mr. Nunes’s request deals with a “top secret intelligence source” of the FBI and CIA, who is a U.S. citizen and who was involved in the Russia collusion probe. When government agencies refer to sources, they mean people who appear to be average citizens but use their profession or contacts to spy for the agency. Ergo, we might take this to mean that the FBI secretly had a person on the payroll who used his or her non-FBI credentials to interact in some capacity with the Trump campaign.
This would amount to spying, and it is hugely disconcerting. It would also be a major escalation from the electronic surveillance we already knew about, which was bad enough. Obama political appointees rampantly “unmasked” Trump campaign officials to monitor their conversations, while the FBI played dirty with its surveillance warrant against Carter Page, failing to tell the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court that its supporting information came from the Hillary Clinton campaign. Now we find it may have also been rolling out human intelligence, John Le Carré style, to infiltrate the Trump campaign.
Which would lead to another big question for the FBI: When? The bureau has been doggedly sticking with its story that a tip in July 2016 about the drunken ramblings of George Papadopoulos launched its counterintelligence probe. Still, the players in this affair—the FBI, former Director Jim Comey, the Steele dossier authors—have been suspiciously vague on the key moments leading up to that launch date. When precisely was the Steele dossier delivered to the FBI? When precisely did the Papadopoulos information come in?
And to the point, when precisely was this human source operating? Because if it was prior to that infamous Papadopoulos tip, then the FBI isn’t being straight. It would mean the bureau was spying on the Trump campaign prior to that moment. And that in turn would mean that the FBI had been spurred to act on the basis of something other than a junior campaign aide’s loose lips.
We also know that among the Justice Department’s stated reasons for not complying with the Nunes subpoena was its worry that to do so might damage international relationships. This suggests the “source” may be overseas, have ties to foreign intelligence, or both. That’s notable, given the highly suspicious role foreigners have played in this escapade. It was an Australian diplomat who reported the Papadopoulos conversation. Dossier author Christopher Steele is British, used to work for MI6, and retains ties to that spy agency as well as to a network of former spooks. It was a former British diplomat who tipped off Sen. John McCain to the dossier. How this “top secret” source fits into this puzzle could matter deeply.
I believe I know the name of the informant, but my intelligence sources did not provide it to me and refuse to confirm it. It would therefore be irresponsible to publish it. But what is clear is that we’ve barely scratched the surface of the FBI’s 2016 behavior, and the country will never get the straight story until President Trump moves to declassify everything possible. It’s time to rip off the Band-Aid.
Correction
The FBI briefed House Intelligence Committee members about a top-secret intelligence source but did not allow them to see documents. An earlier version of this article misstated this.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/about-that-fbi-source-1525992611
Chris
05-11-2018, 05:05 PM
Lot of people think it's Carter Page, myself included.
Chris
05-11-2018, 05:07 PM
Having a shit take = shitposting.
You have no idea what shitposting is.
Pavlov
05-11-2018, 05:13 PM
Lot of people think it's Carter Page, myself included.:lol The FBI got a warrant to spy on its own asset?
Lot of people think it's Carter Page, myself included.
Stefan Halper
Pavlov
05-11-2018, 05:29 PM
Stefan HalperHe's an M-16 agent!
About That FBI ‘Source’
The Department of Justice lost its latest battle with Congress Thursday when it agreed to brief House Intelligence Committee members about a top-secret intelligence source that was part of the FBI’s investigation of the Trump campaign. Even without official confirmation of that source’s name, the news so far holds some stunning implications.
Among them is that the Justice Department and Federal Bureau of Investigation outright hid critical information from a congressional investigation. In a Thursday press conference, Speaker Paul Ryan bluntly noted that Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes’s request for details on this secret source was “wholly appropriate,” “completely within the scope” of the committee’s long-running FBI investigation, and “something that probably should have been answered a while ago.” Translation: The department knew full well it should have turned this material over to congressional investigators last year, but instead deliberately concealed it.
House investigators nonetheless sniffed out a name, and Mr. Nunes in recent weeks issued a letter and a subpoena demanding more details. Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein’s response was to double down—accusing the House of “extortion” and delivering a speech in which he claimed that “declining to open the FBI’s files to review” is a constitutional “duty.” Justice asked the White House to back its stonewall. And it even began spinning that daddy of all superspook arguments—that revealing any detail about this particular asset could result in “loss of human lives.”
This is desperation, and it strongly suggests that whatever is in these files is going to prove very uncomfortable to the FBI.
The bureau already has some explaining to do. Thanks to the Washington Post’s unnamed law-enforcement leakers, we know Mr. Nunes’s request deals with a “top secret intelligence source” of the FBI and CIA, who is a U.S. citizen and who was involved in the Russia collusion probe. When government agencies refer to sources, they mean people who appear to be average citizens but use their profession or contacts to spy for the agency. Ergo, we might take this to mean that the FBI secretly had a person on the payroll who used his or her non-FBI credentials to interact in some capacity with the Trump campaign.
This would amount to spying, and it is hugely disconcerting. It would also be a major escalation from the electronic surveillance we already knew about, which was bad enough. Obama political appointees rampantly “unmasked” Trump campaign officials to monitor their conversations, while the FBI played dirty with its surveillance warrant against Carter Page, failing to tell the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court that its supporting information came from the Hillary Clinton campaign. Now we find it may have also been rolling out human intelligence, John Le Carré style, to infiltrate the Trump campaign.
Which would lead to another big question for the FBI: When? The bureau has been doggedly sticking with its story that a tip in July 2016 about the drunken ramblings of George Papadopoulos launched its counterintelligence probe. Still, the players in this affair—the FBI, former Director Jim Comey, the Steele dossier authors—have been suspiciously vague on the key moments leading up to that launch date. When precisely was the Steele dossier delivered to the FBI? When precisely did the Papadopoulos information come in?
And to the point, when precisely was this human source operating? Because if it was prior to that infamous Papadopoulos tip, then the FBI isn’t being straight. It would mean the bureau was spying on the Trump campaign prior to that moment. And that in turn would mean that the FBI had been spurred to act on the basis of something other than a junior campaign aide’s loose lips.
We also know that among the Justice Department’s stated reasons for not complying with the Nunes subpoena was its worry that to do so might damage international relationships. This suggests the “source” may be overseas, have ties to foreign intelligence, or both. That’s notable, given the highly suspicious role foreigners have played in this escapade. It was an Australian diplomat who reported the Papadopoulos conversation. Dossier author Christopher Steele is British, used to work for MI6, and retains ties to that spy agency as well as to a network of former spooks. It was a former British diplomat who tipped off Sen. John McCain to the dossier. How this “top secret” source fits into this puzzle could matter deeply.
I believe I know the name of the informant, but my intelligence sources did not provide it to me and refuse to confirm it. It would therefore be irresponsible to publish it. But what is clear is that we’ve barely scratched the surface of the FBI’s 2016 behavior, and the country will never get the straight story until President Trump moves to declassify everything possible. It’s time to rip off the Band-Aid.
Correction
The FBI briefed House Intelligence Committee members about a top-secret intelligence source but did not allow them to see documents. An earlier version of this article misstated this.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/about-that-fbi-source-1525992611
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Chris
05-11-2018, 05:42 PM
:lol The FBI got a warrant to spy on its own asset?
What better way to tie up a loose end and plant controversy where none exists? I'm open to TSA's theory as well.
Pavlov
05-11-2018, 05:45 PM
What better way to tie up a loose end and plant controversy where none exists? I'm open to TSA's theory as well.What better way to never get a FISA warrant from a judge ever again?
djohn2oo8
05-11-2018, 05:47 PM
What better way to never get a FISA warrant from a judge ever again?
lol
koriwhat
05-11-2018, 05:48 PM
... because they knew that Pootin was trying to compromise Trash's entourage. That was a great idea, better the US catches the traitors, before Pootin does.
damn you're such a fucking lost cause.
Chris
05-11-2018, 05:51 PM
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djohn2oo8
05-11-2018, 05:55 PM
Damn. Chris posting things already posted. Shook.
DarrinS
05-11-2018, 05:57 PM
Damn. Chris posting things already posted. Shook.
When you do the same, you’re shook, too? :lol
Chris
05-11-2018, 05:57 PM
Damn. Chris posting things already posted. Shook.
Where was it posted?
Chris
05-11-2018, 05:58 PM
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:corn:
koriwhat
05-11-2018, 06:00 PM
Damn. Chris posting things already posted. Shook.
i'm surprised you can access ST behind china's firewall.
djohn2oo8
05-11-2018, 06:00 PM
When you do the same, you’re shook, too? :lol
Nope. I post opinions in my posts instead of spamming with no understanding of what he is posting :lol
djohn2oo8
05-11-2018, 06:01 PM
i'm surprised you can access ST behind china's firewall.
I'm surprised men get calf tats.
Chris
05-11-2018, 06:02 PM
Nope. I post opinions in my posts instead of spamming with no understanding of what he is posting :lol
lol "spamming"
lol opinions = "Lawdy!" or laughing emoticon
koriwhat
05-11-2018, 06:03 PM
I'm surprised men get calf tats.
little weenie wielding asian, men endure pain. bitches eat their pets for dinner. chow down chow.
Pavlov
05-11-2018, 06:03 PM
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Chris
05-11-2018, 06:05 PM
Yeah Flynn was pressured into pleading guilty. This isn't news.
spurraider21
05-11-2018, 06:06 PM
Yeah Flynn was pressured into pleading guilty. This isn't news.
guilty people are typically pressured to plead guilty for a lighter sentence
SnakeBoy
05-11-2018, 06:06 PM
lol Coming up on a thousand pages
spurraider21
05-11-2018, 06:06 PM
lol Coming up on a thousand pages
at least we're actually talking about flynn in these recent posts :lol
Pavlov
05-11-2018, 06:07 PM
Yeah Flynn was pressured into pleading guilty. This isn't news.Pressured how?
Chris
05-11-2018, 06:09 PM
guilty people are typically pressured to plead guilty for a lighter sentence
You can be charged with perjury even if you are telling the truth. Flynn is guilty for not bringing a lawyer to talk with Meuller and his goon squad.
Chris
05-11-2018, 06:10 PM
Pressured how?
Prosecutors routinely apply pressure or threats to get a guilty plea. Flynn was in over his head.
spurraider21
05-11-2018, 06:12 PM
You can be charged with perjury even if you are telling the truth.
Flynn wasn't charged with perjury.
Flynn is guilty for not bringing a lawyer to talk with Meuller and his goon squad.
where is that in the us code?
Pavlov
05-11-2018, 06:12 PM
You can be charged with perjury even if you are telling the truth.Can you cite a few cases of this occurrence that could apply to Flynn?
Pavlov
05-11-2018, 06:13 PM
Prosecutors routinely apply pressure or threats to get a guilty plea. Flynn was in over his head.Yeah, but what pressure?
What threats?
DarrinS
05-11-2018, 06:17 PM
Yeah, but what pressure?
What threats?
His son
Chris
05-11-2018, 06:17 PM
Flynn wasn't charged with perjury.
where is that in the us code?
"willfully and knowingly" making "false, fictitious and fraudulent statements" to the FBI
perjury -the offense of willfully telling an untruth in a court (or to the FBI) after having taken an oath or affirmation.
synonyms: lying under oath, giving false evidence/testimony, making false statements, willful falsehood
You're arguing semantics. How petty.
lol typical edit with qualifier. Jesus.
Pavlov
05-11-2018, 06:18 PM
His sonWhat was he threatened with?
DarrinS
05-11-2018, 06:19 PM
What was he threatened with?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jacobfrenkel/2017/11/27/will-michael-flynn-plead-guilty-and-cooperate-to-protect-his-son/
Pavlov
05-11-2018, 06:21 PM
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jacobfrenkel/2017/11/27/will-michael-flynn-plead-guilty-and-cooperate-to-protect-his-son/What crime did his son commit?
Chris
05-11-2018, 06:25 PM
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djohn2oo8
05-11-2018, 06:30 PM
little weenie wielding asian, men endure pain. bitches eat their pets for dinner. chow down chow.
Ponytails and calf tats. Lord have mercy.
djohn2oo8
05-11-2018, 06:31 PM
Yeah Flynn was pressured into pleading guilty. This isn't news.
So Flynn lied about lying?
Chris
05-11-2018, 06:33 PM
So Flynn lied about lying?
He was in over his head. Comey and the agents who conducted the interview didn't think he was lying and I don't either. Mueller's goon squad decided to prosecute regardless. It's a sham.
Pavlov
05-11-2018, 06:35 PM
He was in over his head. Comey and the agents who conducted the interview didn't think he was lying and I don't either. Mueller's goon squad decided to prosecute regardless. It's a sham.https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dc77DmkX0AAfzz8.jpg
djohn2oo8
05-11-2018, 06:40 PM
He was in over his head. Comey and the agents who conducted the interview didn't think he was lying and I don't either. Mueller's goon squad decided to prosecute regardless. It's a sham.
Then that would still mean he lied to the judge.
djohn2oo8
05-11-2018, 06:40 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dc77DmkX0AAfzz8.jpg
Boom.
Chris
05-11-2018, 06:40 PM
Then that would still mean he lied to the judge.
I'm aware of that, but I still think he was pressured.
spurraider21
05-11-2018, 06:43 PM
"willfully and knowingly" making "false, fictitious and fraudulent statements" to the FBI
perjury -the offense of willfully telling an untruth in a court (or to the FBI) after having taken an oath or affirmation.
synonyms: lying under oath, giving false evidence/testimony, making false statements, willful falsehood
You're arguing semantics. How petty.
:lmao adds words to the definition and accuses me of arguing semantics :lmao
perjury requires being under oath. that's a major distinction
lol typical edit with qualifier. Jesus.
i dont think you know what qualifier means
boutons_deux
05-11-2018, 06:52 PM
IF TRUMP IS LAUNDERING RUSSIAN MONEY, HERE’S HOW IT WORKS
FOR DONALD TRUMP, there was the purchase of the $12.6 million Scottish estate and the $79.7 million for golf courses in the United Kingdom, not to mention the $16.2 million for the Northern Virginia Winery. All in cash.
For Michael Cohen, it was the lucrative day in 2014 when he sold four Manhattan buildings for $32 million—three times what he’d paid for them less than three years before.
The subtext of many of the recent tales—from Donald Trump’s massive cash-spending spree (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/as-the-king-of-debt-trump-borrowed-to-build-his-empire-then-he-began-spending-hundreds-of-millions-in-cash/2018/05/05/28fe54b4-44c4-11e8-8569-26fda6b404c7_story.html?utm_term=.f2c4329ff292) to Cohen’s $32 million flip (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/05/business/michael-cohen-lawyer-trump.html) of New York real estate—is that the atypical transactions are worthy of greater scrutiny.
After all,
why was the self-proclaimed “King of Debt (https://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/trump-king-of-debt-224642)” suddenly waist-deep in cash and on a spending spree in the midst of the global real estate crash?
Where was Cohen’s money coming from—and where was it going?
"Many of the activities, when viewed in aggregate, point to a deliberate attempt to create opacity,”
“When you take two steps back, you see a murkiness and level of complexity with which the Cohen and Trump companies have operated—
what are they hiding?
Why are secondary and tertiary entities signing under pseudonyms and ‘cover' names?
Truly legitimate, transparent companies don’t need to do that.
Does this point to corruption and/or conspiracy?
It certainly looks that way!
Are all activities pointing to specific money laundering transactions? Not necessarily.”
the pattern of activity points to an attempt to evade one of the basic precepts of modern banking and anti-money-laundering efforts:
Know your customer.
“What we call ‘covered institutions,’ that’s any financial institution overseen by US financial regulations,
they have to have a comprehensive anti-money-laundering regime.
It basically come down to one central question:
Do you know your customer?
Who’s behind the account,
who has control over an entity or can facilitate transactions on its behalf,
what are its sources of funds, and
what is the normal, expected nature of its business or pattern of activity for that person or entity?"
“Financial institutions are mandated to collect all this data on its customers, but up until now, financial institutions have not had to do the same for companies,”
“Donald Trump owns a helicopter in Scotland.
To be more precise,
he has a revocable trust that owns 99 percent of a Delaware limited liability company
that owns 99 percent of another Delaware LLC
that owns a Scottish limited company
that owns another Scottish company
that owns the 26-year-old Sikorsky S-76B helicopter,
emblazoned with a red ‘TRUMP’ on the side of its fuselage.”
All told, the Journal reported, 15 entities were used at that point to “own” Trump’s fleet of two airplanes and three helicopters.
Layer on layer of corporate structure makes it hard for investigators, tax officials, or prying lawyers to figure out who owns what,
A Section 311 designation was meant to help authorities highlight suspicious patterns of activity without having to prove any single transaction was illegal—it’s the rough equivalent for money laundering of the criminal RICO statute,
“We deliberately put these tools together to go after really bad people—organized crime, terrorists, dictators, Chinese Triads,”
if what we have seen with Michael Cohen’s business dealings existed anywhere overseas,
where it intersected with an investigation or a politically exposed person or national security issue of import to the US,
it would ring all sorts of alarm bells at Treasury. :lol but Treasury is run by a Repug who "forgot" to declare he had $100M offshore! :lol
What seems to be continually revealed is a pattern of atypical financial transactions, and
too much of it seems structured specifically to hide and evade critical information or people involved.
Money laundering is a huge—literally physically huge—problem:
Illicit drug sales in the United States alone are estimated at around $60 billion to $100 billion a year, which translates, Cassara says, into about
20 million physical pounds of currency, far too much to be moved easily or spent easily.
“The bad guys have a logistics issue. They want to try to get into a bank or nonbank financial institution, so they can spend it,”
Manafort’s scheme—which Mueller’s team says involved more than $18 million, funneled through entities that included oriental rug shops just a few miles from the Treasury Department itself—ran undetected and unprosecuted for so long.
money launderers have to be incredibly stupid or incredibly unlucky to be caught.
“Since 9/11, the amount of financial intelligence has grown exponentially, so bad guys are taking steps to evade those efforts,”
what’s the point of buying, say, $934,350 in oriental rugs (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/10/30/paul_manafort_allegedly_spent_934_350_on_rugs_how_ is_that_possible.html)(as Manafort is alleged to have done)
Step 1: Placement
Step 2: Layering
Step 3: Integration
That so many of the transactions and behaviors of the Trump business empire and Michael Cohen’s empire appear to hew so closely to the well-known patterns and stages of money laundering deeply troubles Sharma.
“It falls into fact patterns that we’ve seen in other areas of Russian and Eastern European organized crime,” he says.
“We’re staring at a government—that goes right to the top—that engages in very way of doing business and the exact same fact patterns that we set these tools up to combat.
That’s mind-boggling to me.”
https://www.wired.com/story/if-trump-is-laundering-russian-money-heres-how-it-works/
koriwhat
05-11-2018, 06:57 PM
Ponytails and calf tats. Lord have mercy.
yall fucks cling to shit that makes no fucking sense whatsoever and is almost as comical as amy fat fuck schumer.
poor little short round.
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The rabbit hole goes so deep
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djohn2oo8
05-11-2018, 07:39 PM
The rabbit hole goes so deep
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Like Hillary eating dead babies deep?
His son
You cant blackmail people into a confession, dude. Least of all cops. :lol
Everything is documented and the evidence has to be there to charge someone.
djohn2oo8
05-11-2018, 07:55 PM
You cant blackmail people into a confession, dude. Least of all cops. :lol
Everything is documented and the evidence has to be there to charge someone.
:lol these people
Chris
05-12-2018, 12:37 AM
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:lol these people
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:lol these people
Kind of like Cohen never paying a whore or receiving millions from Russian oligarchs, right Chris?
The onus is on the Mueller team to prove they did do work from them and I would wager they have the proof.
Chris
05-12-2018, 12:55 AM
Kind of like Cohen never paying a whore or receiving millions from Russian oligarchs, right Chris?
No, it's not like that at all. :lol
The onus is on the Mueller team to prove they did do work from them and I would wager they have the proof.
They don't have anything or you would have heard about it by now.
No, it's not like that at all. :lol
They don't have anything or you would have heard about it by now.
Yes, it's exactly like that. You do realize that this is what the opposition claims right? Mueller's job is to prove otherwise. :lol
The lawyer defending the Russians isn't going to admit to wrongdoing. :lmao
Chris
05-12-2018, 01:50 AM
Yes, it's exactly like that.
Nah.
You do realize that this is what the opposition claims right?
:tu
Mueller's job is to prove otherwise. :lol
He can't or he wouldn't have attempted to stall the case.
The lawyer defending the Russians isn't going to admit to wrongdoing. :lmao
The Russians weren't even supposed to show up. Pretty sure the lawyers feel they have an open and shut case. Mueller = fucked
Spurminator
05-12-2018, 08:08 AM
995175385959620614
:lol these people
:lol reading comprehension
:lol your shitty Twitter sources
djohn2oo8
05-12-2018, 08:46 AM
:lol reading comprehension
:lol your shitty Twitter sources
His math is terrible too.
Chris
05-12-2018, 02:09 PM
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spurraider21
05-12-2018, 02:14 PM
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:lol these people
yeah... mueller tried to delay the arraignment because he said Concord hadn't been properly served yet.
This snapshot shows the lawyer confirming that Concord hasn't been properly served yet :lol
Pavlov
05-12-2018, 02:14 PM
995284579022966784:lol All the agents ever said is that it didn't look like Flynn was lying.
Then they checked the facts against Flynn's story and found out he did lie.
Chris
05-12-2018, 03:04 PM
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Chris
05-12-2018, 03:09 PM
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2018/05/10/thousands-russian-bought-facebook-social-media-ads-released-congress/849959001/
Spurminator
05-12-2018, 03:12 PM
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People believe stupid things every day. You should know better than anyone, flat earther.
Chris
05-12-2018, 03:13 PM
People believe stupid things every day. You should know better than anyone, flat earther.
Never said such. You just said a stupid thing. Congratulations.
Spurminator
05-12-2018, 03:18 PM
Never said such. You just said a stupid thing. Congratulations.
White Chris with the white flag, won't even defend the tweet he posted.
This probably works better on Twitter where there's no one watching to call you out on how stupid you are, Citizen X. Maybe stick to that.
Chris
05-12-2018, 03:20 PM
White Chris with the white flag, won't even defend the tweet he posted.
This probably works better on Twitter where there's no one watching to call you out on how stupid you are, Citizen X. Maybe stick to that.
Nah, you're still stupid. Congratulations.
Spurminator
05-12-2018, 03:27 PM
Nah, you're still stupid. Congratulations.
This is going well for you. Keep it up.
Chris
05-12-2018, 03:31 PM
This is going well for you. Keep it up.
Thanks. I will.
Chris
05-12-2018, 04:52 PM
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Pavlov
05-12-2018, 04:53 PM
995397064380047360
:lol All the agents ever said is that it didn't look like Flynn was lying.
Then they checked the facts against Flynn's story and found out he did lie.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dc77DmkX0AAfzz8.jpg
djohn2oo8
05-12-2018, 04:57 PM
Damn. Chris is really illiterate.
djohn2oo8
05-12-2018, 06:57 PM
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Hmm helping Russians evade sanctions seems to be a common theme amongst these folks.
Chris
05-13-2018, 10:17 PM
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djohn2oo8
05-13-2018, 10:33 PM
Another day, Trump still under investigation.
Chris
05-13-2018, 10:46 PM
Another day, Trump still under investigation.
Trump still not a target. :tu
Still can't be indicted. :tu
djohn2oo8
05-13-2018, 11:58 PM
Trump still not a target. :tu
Still can't be indicted. :tu
I knew that would strike a nerve. And yes he can be indicted. The argument is if he can be prosecuted. Also, subjects become targets when ready for indictment. Poor Chris. Another day, Trump not cleared.
boutons_deux
05-14-2018, 12:11 AM
fun stuff, more credible than ANY of Alex Jones or TSA's BULL SHIT
What If the Russia-FundedInauguration Fund Paid the $25 Million Trump Univ. Settlement? (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/5/13/1763837/-What-If-the-Russia-Funded-Inauguration-Fund-Paid-the-25-Million-Trump-Univ-Settlement)
But what was really odd is that an LLC named WIS Media Partners,
set up in 2016 by a New York society-party planner and friend of Melania Trump named Stephanie Winston Wolkoff was
paid over $26 million.
But Ms. Wolkoff says she was paid “only” $1.62 million. See thehill.com/ (http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/374021-trump-inaugural-committee-paid-millions-to-event-planning-company-run)…
What happened to the other $25 million paid to Ms. Wolkoff’s LLC remains a mystery.
That is the exact amount needed to pay the Trump University students forming the plaintiff class in Judge Curiel’s court.
My hypothesis, which I cannot prove, is that the money paid by the Inaugural Committee to Ms. Wolcoff’s LLC funded the class action settlement.
To repeat, of course I do not know what happened, but any sentient investigator would have to ask.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/5/13/1763837/-What-If-the-Russia-Funded-Inauguration-Fund-Paid-the-25-Million-Trump-Univ-Settlement (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/5/13/1763837/-What-If-the-Russia-Funded-Inauguration-Fund-Paid-the-25-Million-Trump-Univ-Settlement)
I'm sure "sentient investigator" Mueller has or will ask.
I knew that would strike a nerve. And yes he can be indicted. The argument is if he can be prosecuted. Also, subjects become targets when ready for indictment. Poor Chris. Another day, Trump not cleared.
Poor djohn. Another day, Trump not in prison.
Poor djohn. Chris getting some of that money too.
fun stuff, more credible than ANY of Alex Jones or TSA's BULL SHIT
What If the Russia-FundedInauguration Fund Paid the $25 Million Trump Univ. Settlement? (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/5/13/1763837/-What-If-the-Russia-Funded-Inauguration-Fund-Paid-the-25-Million-Trump-Univ-Settlement)
But what was really odd is that an LLC named WIS Media Partners,
set up in 2016 by a New York society-party planner and friend of Melania Trump named Stephanie Winston Wolkoff was
paid over $26 million.
But Ms. Wolkoff says she was paid “only” $1.62 million. See thehill.com/ (http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/374021-trump-inaugural-committee-paid-millions-to-event-planning-company-run)…
What happened to the other $25 million paid to Ms. Wolkoff’s LLC remains a mystery.
That is the exact amount needed to pay the Trump University students forming the plaintiff class in Judge Curiel’s court.
My hypothesis, which I cannot prove, is that the money paid by the Inaugural Committee to Ms. Wolcoff’s LLC funded the class action settlement.
To repeat, of course I do not know what happened, but any sentient investigator would have to ask.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/5/13/1763837/-What-If-the-Russia-Funded-Inauguration-Fund-Paid-the-25-Million-Trump-Univ-Settlement (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/5/13/1763837/-What-If-the-Russia-Funded-Inauguration-Fund-Paid-the-25-Million-Trump-Univ-Settlement)
I'm sure "sentient investigator" Mueller has or will ask.
:lol “more credible”
:lol bolds “which I can not prove”
djohn2oo8
05-14-2018, 08:37 AM
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djohn2oo8
05-14-2018, 08:38 AM
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Pavlov
05-14-2018, 08:59 AM
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The new conspiracy theory TSA and company are embracing is that Trump was being set up by intel groups from several western countries because reasons.
The new conspiracy theory TSA and company are embracing is that Trump was being set up by intel groups from several western countries because reasons.
That theory isn’t new, and the book djohn keeps tweeting about supports that theory.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/05/muellers-probe-is-more-expansive-than-it-seems/560255/
“Roh and his co-author Thierry Pastor, who also knows Mifsud, write in the book that, upon arriving in New York City with his family in October 2017, “one of the co-authors” was “fished from the passport control” line at John F. Kennedy airport while his family “was retained with armed police force.” (Photos posted by Roh’s wife on social media in October 2017 suggest she was visiting New York in late October.) He was then interrogated for “hours,” they write, by “a team of Special Counsel Robert Mueller investigating Russia-Gate.” The book alleges that he and his family were then “observed, followed, and taped, at every moment and every place in New York” by the FBI and that his family was assigned to “special rooms at the hotel” while security personnel “patrolled the corridors.”
It is unclear whether Roh was actually surveilled after being interviewed—a spokesman for the special counsel’s office declined to comment. The book further alleges that Mifsud is not a Russian spy but is actually “deeply embedded in the network of Western Intelligence Services.” Papadopoulos, too, is a “western intelligence operative,” the authors assert, who was “placed” in the Trump campaign by the FBI.
djohn2oo8
05-14-2018, 09:14 AM
The new conspiracy theory TSA and company are embracing is that Trump was being set up by intel groups from several western countries because reasons.
Right on cue :lol
Right on cue :lol
Did you even read the Atlantic article you were just linking to yes or no? :lol
djohn2oo8
05-14-2018, 09:26 AM
Did you even read the Atlantic article you were just linking to yes or no? :lol
Didn't see any Hillary eating dead babies theories.
Didn't see any Hillary eating dead babies theories.
*dingflection
Did you even read the Atlantic article you were just linking to yes or no?
Pavlov
05-14-2018, 09:32 AM
That theory isn’t new, and the book djohn keeps tweeting about supports that theory.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/05/muellers-probe-is-more-expansive-than-it-seems/560255/
“Roh and his co-author Thierry Pastor, who also knows Mifsud, write in the book that, upon arriving in New York City with his family in October 2017, “one of the co-authors” was “fished from the passport control” line at John F. Kennedy airport while his family “was retained with armed police force.” (Photos posted by Roh’s wife on social media in October 2017 suggest she was visiting New York in late October.) He was then interrogated for “hours,” they write, by “a team of Special Counsel Robert Mueller investigating Russia-Gate.” The book alleges that he and his family were then “observed, followed, and taped, at every moment and every place in New York” by the FBI and that his family was assigned to “special rooms at the hotel” while security personnel “patrolled the corridors.”
It is unclear whether Roh was actually surveilled after being interviewed—a spokesman for the special counsel’s office declined to comment. The book further alleges that Mifsud is not a Russian spy but is actually “deeply embedded in the network of Western Intelligence Services.” Papadopoulos, too, is a “western intelligence operative,” the authors assert, who was “placed” in the Trump campaign by the FBI.Yeah, the "Clinton and company set up Trump because she thought she was going to win" theory.
lol
Chris
05-14-2018, 09:33 AM
:lol djohn
djohn2oo8
05-14-2018, 09:45 AM
Yeah, the "Clinton and company set up Trump because she thought she was going to win" theory.
lol
:lol
djohn2oo8
05-14-2018, 09:46 AM
Or Mike Flynn was set up to lie. Therefore leading him to consider withdrawing his guilty plea.
Pavlov
05-14-2018, 09:51 AM
Or Mike Flynn was set up to lie. Therefore leading him to consider withdrawing his guilty plea.And their own agent Papadopoulos pleaded guilty to a felony.
IT MAKES TOTAL SENSE
djohn2oo8
05-14-2018, 09:58 AM
And their own agent Papadopoulos pleaded guilty to a felony.
IT MAKES TOTAL SENSE
Too much sense
Too much sense
So much sense you unknowingly spammed tweets pushing that theory :rollin
Yeah, the "Clinton and company set up Trump because she thought she was going to win" theory.
lol
Why was Stefan Halper reaching out to Trump campaign members?
Pavlov
05-14-2018, 10:26 AM
Why was Stefan Halper reaching out to Trump campaign members?Don't know.
Tell me your conspiracy theory for this week, TSA.
djohn2oo8
05-14-2018, 10:33 AM
Don't know.
Tell me your conspiracy theory for this week, TSA.
Susan Rice still gonna be indicted.
That theory isn’t new, and the book djohn keeps tweeting about supports that theory.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/05/muellers-probe-is-more-expansive-than-it-seems/560255/
“Roh and his co-author Thierry Pastor, who also knows Mifsud, write in the book that, upon arriving in New York City with his family in October 2017, “one of the co-authors” was “fished from the passport control” line at John F. Kennedy airport while his family “was retained with armed police force.” (Photos posted by Roh’s wife on social media in October 2017 suggest she was visiting New York in late October.) He was then interrogated for “hours,” they write, by “a team of Special Counsel Robert Mueller investigating Russia-Gate.” The book alleges that he and his family were then “observed, followed, and taped, at every moment and every place in New York” by the FBI and that his family was assigned to “special rooms at the hotel” while security personnel “patrolled the corridors.”
It is unclear whether Roh was actually surveilled after being interviewed—a spokesman for the special counsel’s office declined to comment. The book further alleges that Mifsud is not a Russian spy but is actually “deeply embedded in the network of Western Intelligence Services.” Papadopoulos, too, is a “western intelligence operative,” the authors assert, who was “placed” in the Trump campaign by the FBI.995942692352905216
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Pavlov
05-14-2018, 11:11 AM
995942692352905216
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996037976248475648What is your conspiracy theory this week, TSA?
djohn2oo8
05-14-2018, 11:13 AM
What is your conspiracy theory this week, TSA?
lol
995942692352905216
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Pavlov
05-14-2018, 11:14 AM
994014057026998273What is your conspiracy theory this week, TSA?
spurraider21
05-14-2018, 11:15 AM
is carter page still an fbi agent?
Pavlov
05-14-2018, 11:17 AM
is carter page still an fbi agent?It's more plausible to say Giuliani is an FBI agent at this point.
Chris
05-14-2018, 11:43 AM
:cry Somebody explain this stuff to me. I'm completely lost. :cry
boutons_deux
05-14-2018, 11:46 AM
‘Buckle up’: As Mueller probe enters second year, Trump and allies go on war footing
The president vents to associates about the FBI raids on his personal attorney Michael Cohen — as often as “20 times a day,” :lol
in the estimation of one confidant — and they frequently listen in silence, knowing little they say will soothe him.
Trump gripes that he needs better “TV lawyers” to defend him on cable news :lol
and is impatient to halt the “witch hunt” that he says undermines his legitimacy as president.
And he plots his battle plans with former New York mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani, his new legal consigliere.
“We’re on the same wavelength,” Giuliani said. :lol
“We’ve gone from defense to offense.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/buckle-up-as-mueller-probe-enters-second-year-trump-and-allies-go-on-war-footing/2018/05/13/e3d15fbe-546b-11e8-9c91-7dab596e8252_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.bd8561e8ba56
Obese, senile, mentally/psychologically degraded Trash is betting his so-called Presidency on obese, senile, transvestite Julie Annie? :lol
boutons_deux
05-14-2018, 11:48 AM
John Oliver: Michael Cohen is a lawyer that is so shitty, it made Trump say ‘get me someone good — Rudy Giuliani’
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/05/john-oliver-michael-cohen-lawyer-shtty-made-trump-say-get-someone-good-rudy-giuliani/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
Chris
05-14-2018, 11:50 AM
Meanwhile on CNN, Nunes is the new Putin.
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Meanwhile on CNN, Nunes is the new Putin.
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Pavlov
05-14-2018, 12:01 PM
.Explain your conspiracy theory, Chris.
What I'm seeing from you guys changes every few days and I don't quite know what your conspiracy theory is right now.
Thanks in advance for making your theory totally clear.
Pavlov
05-14-2018, 12:01 PM
996015330261655552What is your conspiracy theory this week, TSA?
Winehole23
05-14-2018, 12:09 PM
Yeah, the "Clinton and company set up Trump because she thought she was going to win" theory.
lolAccording to Mifsud's fixer.
In their zeal to disprove DJT's conspiracy with Russians, Trumpistas are pushing their own Russian conspiracy involving HRC...
...based on what the lawyer for a Russian target says.
Chris
05-14-2018, 12:11 PM
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:lol
According to Mifsud's fixer.
In their zeal to disprove DJT's conspiracy with Russians, Trumpistas are pushing their own Russian conspiracy involving HRC...
...based on what the lawyer for a Russian target says.
Why was Stefan Halper seeking meetings with Trump campaign members?
Pavlov
05-14-2018, 12:16 PM
Why can't Dennison's disciples actually state their conspiracy theories?
djohn2oo8
05-14-2018, 12:16 PM
Why can't Dennison's disciples actually state their conspiracy theories?
:lol
djohn2oo8
05-14-2018, 12:17 PM
Pizzagate gave that boy PTSD
spurraider21
05-14-2018, 12:18 PM
Why was Stefan Halper seeking meetings with Trump campaign members?
how else were they supposed to get to the podestas?
Chris
05-14-2018, 12:19 PM
Liberals demand answers but can only come up with bad jokes for retorts to real questions. SAD!
Pavlov
05-14-2018, 12:20 PM
Liberals demand answers but can only come up with bad jokes for retorts to real questions. SAD!What is your conspiracy theory, Chris?
spurraider21
05-14-2018, 12:20 PM
Liberals demand answers but can only come up with bad jokes for retorts to real questions. SAD!
yeah next time ill answer with memes, dick morris videos, and *risitas
djohn2oo8
05-14-2018, 12:20 PM
Liberals demand answers but can only come up with bad jokes for retorts to real questions. SAD!
Ding.
Winehole23
05-14-2018, 12:59 PM
Why was Stefan Halper seeking meetings with Trump campaign members?Dunno.
That's your hobby horse, not mine.
Why don't you walk us through that one?
RandomGuy
05-14-2018, 02:27 PM
Michael Avenatti Posts Photos Of Cohen With Qatari Investor Accused Of Bribery
Why was Ahmed Al-Rumaihi meeting with Michael Cohen and Michael Flynn in December 2016 and why did Mr. Al-Rumaihi later brag about bribing administration officials according to a sworn declaration filed in court?
Mr. Al-Rumaihi requested I set up a meeting between him, the Qatari government, and Steven Bannon, and to tell Steve Bannon that Qatar would underwrite all of his political efforts in return for his support.”
Kwatinetz, who is a friend of Bannon’s, said that he rejected the offer because he considered it a bribe. He stated that he did not tell Bannon of the conversation.
Kwatinetz said in the affidavit that “Al-Rumaihi laughed and [said] that I shouldn’t be naive, that so many Washington politicians take our money.”
Quote left off:
"do you think Flynn turned down our [Rumaihi's] money?"
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/avenatti-posts-photos-of-cohen-kelly_us_5af8bfa4e4b00d7e4c1bb77e
RandomGuy
05-14-2018, 02:28 PM
Dunno.
That's your hobby horse, not mine.
Why don't you walk us through that one?
TSAs theory (as much as he actually has one) is regurgitated 4chan drek. "Mueller is secretly working with Trump to go after Hillary and Podesta".
He has put a LOT of effort into this one, after being burned badly in Pizzagate.
Pavlov
05-14-2018, 02:34 PM
TSAs theory (as much as he actually has one) is regurgitated 4chan drek. "Mueller is secretly working with Trump to go after Hillary and Podesta".
He has put a LOT of effort into this one, after being burned badly in Pizzagate.He got burned enough to never actually commit to the conspiracy theories blog tells him to believe.
He's just like a 9/11 truther now. "Just asking questions."
RandomGuy
05-14-2018, 02:40 PM
He got burned enough to never actually commit to the conspiracy theories blog tells him to believe.
He's just like a 9/11 truther now. "Just asking questions."
Exactly like a twoofer, i.e. a walking confirmation bias. Anything about Trump being set up, and a great president gets through, anything else... is turned away at the gate.
Maintaining these beliefs takes some serious, delusional, cult-like behavior. Creepy.
Chris
05-14-2018, 03:06 PM
996112258941046785
:ihit
spurraider21
05-14-2018, 03:08 PM
996112258941046785
:ihit
:lmao :lmao :lmao
If Flynn’s plea is not vacated by a federal judge in the District of Columbia — which it would appear could be in the works —
holy qualifiers batman!
Chris
05-14-2018, 03:44 PM
996119743663955968
clambake
05-14-2018, 03:45 PM
996119743663955968
daddy going down for jr.
Pavlov
05-14-2018, 04:42 PM
996119743663955968You know, a person can be lying even if people don't think he's lying.
It's why people lie.
You guys probably don't want Flynn's other possible charges to be brought tbh.
Chris
05-14-2018, 05:03 PM
You know, a person can be lying even if people don't think he's lying.
It's why people lie.
You guys probably don't want Flynn's other possible charges to be brought tbh.
What are the other charges?
Pavlov
05-14-2018, 05:06 PM
What are the other charges?In plea agreements, the defendant confesses to lesser charges in exchange for cooperation.
You have said he did it to keep his son from getting charged, so you admit there are other possible charges.
Now you think this is the only charge that could possibly be brought?
Chris
05-14-2018, 05:07 PM
In plea agreements, the defendant confesses to lesser charges in exchange for cooperation.
You have said he did it to keep his son from getting charged, so you admit there are other possible charges.
Now you think this is the only charge that could possibly be brought?
What are the other charges?
RandomGuy
05-14-2018, 05:08 PM
996112258941046785
:ihit
:ihit March 18th
“I think he is gearing up to name names,” Flynn’s confidant said. “He knows where many political bodies are buried in D.C. and what does he have to lose? Nothing.”
You didn't really read that part, did you? :rollin
Pavlov
05-14-2018, 05:11 PM
What are the other charges?I don't know. Just going by every plea deal that has ever gone before.
I'd go with conspiracy to kidnap det Turkish cleric for starters tho. Junior was in on that.
RandomGuy
05-14-2018, 05:12 PM
:lmao :lmao :lmao
holy qualifiers batman!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/02/22/no-a-new-court-filing-doesnt-suggest-that-michael-flynn-is-about-to-be-exonerated/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.4ff1dbe2eb08
Nothingburger. It was a minor clerical stafu that the usual crowd thought was going to be THE thing, but turned out... to be a minor clerical error, and not Flynn getting a get out of jail free card.
spurraider21
05-14-2018, 05:13 PM
i know. i've discussed that a ton, tbh
boutons_deux
05-14-2018, 05:15 PM
Does Pence think, or know, that Trash is doomed?
Pence vs. Trump civil war ripples through the West Wing as Pence positions himself for misfortune (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/5/14/1764231/-A-Pence-vs-Trump-civil-war-ripples-through-the-West-Wing-as-Pence-positions-himself-for-misfortune)
Mike Pence has been elbowing his way into position to lead the Republican Party. One example: even though Trump declined to anoint a successor for the seat of retiring Texas Rep. Jeb Hensarling,
Pence happily tweeted his support to the candidate of Hensarling's choosing, Bunni Pounds.
While Mr. Trump remains an overpowering personality in Republican politics,
he is mostly uninterested in the mechanics of managing a political party.
His team of advisers is riven with personal divisions and
the White House has not yet crafted a strategy for the midterms.
So Mr. Trump’s supremely disciplined running mate has stepped into the void.
Republican officials now see Mr. Pence as seeking to exercise expansive control over a political party ostensibly helmed by Mr. Trump,
Pence is such a perfect evangelical leader: Claiming his fealty to something in principle, but ultimately just using it to his political advantage in practice.
Word of the internal tensions is getting out beyond the walls of the White House: one prominent lawmaker said the complaints of high-ranking Trump officials were starting to circulate on Capitol Hill.
Most brazenly, Marty Obst, a senior Pence adviser, told a Republican donor that Mr. Pence wanted to be prepared for the next presidential race in case there was an opening.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/5/14/1764231/-A-Pence-vs-Trump-civil-war-ripples-through-the-West-Wing-as-Pence-positions-himself-for-misfortune?detail=emaildkre (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/5/14/1764231/-A-Pence-vs-Trump-civil-war-ripples-through-the-West-Wing-as-Pence-positions-himself-for-misfortune?detail=emaildkre)
Chris
05-14-2018, 09:12 PM
996146911143919617
Mueller be scurred :lol
boutons_deux
05-15-2018, 10:25 AM
Pootin's took his cue from Trash's "MX rapist" candidacy announcement, and had his cyber army inflame White Identity Politics, fully aligned with Trash's own inflaming of hate, anger, paranoia, racism, nativism, chauvinism, machism, xenophobia
When Russian trolls wanted to divide America, they knew what to use: race
Social science explains the strategy behind their 2016 Facebook ads.
https://www.vox.com/2018/5/15/17352456/russian-troll-facebook-race-social-science
boutons_deux
05-15-2018, 10:30 AM
Mueller has REALLY got the goods on Manafort. He must have found some serious Manafort crimes going back years.
Mueller: Secret Court Order Suspended Statute Of Limitations On Manafort Charge
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/manafort-mueller-secret-order-foreign-bank-statute-of-limitations?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20tpm-news%20%28TPMNews%29
When will Manafort stop defending himself and start helping Mueller?
:lol and Wilbur Ross's Bank of Cyprus always in the game! :lol
clambake
05-15-2018, 10:40 AM
996146911143919617
Mueller be scurred :lol
pretty sure he isn't.
boutons_deux
05-15-2018, 11:52 AM
Trash is much more scared of Mueller than Mueller would be of Repugs and his targets' defense lawyers.
Chris
05-15-2018, 01:47 PM
996387888035180549
Looks like I was right.
Pavlov
05-15-2018, 01:51 PM
996387888035180549
Looks like I was right.:lol Junior doesn't even believe that.
spurraider21
05-15-2018, 01:52 PM
996387888035180549
Looks like I was right.
anonymous sources good now
Also, based on recent court documents in Flynn’s case there appears to be a possibility that a judge could vacate his guilty plea and Flynn could walk away a free man.
:lmao still pushing this crap
:lmao "appears to be"
:lmao "possibility"
:lmao "could vacate"
:lmao "could walk away"
qualifiers good now
996387888035180549
Looks like I was right.
Looks like you're taking the word of a random twitter hag as official governmnent issued statements. :lol Lowly Chris.
djohn2oo8
05-15-2018, 04:02 PM
996494230989262849
:lmao
spurraider21
05-15-2018, 04:13 PM
996495070328213504
spurraider21
05-15-2018, 04:15 PM
yeah... so that non-public rosenstein memo has held up a couple times now. held up in the civil matter earlier, and now in a criminal case.
to be clear, this is a separate criminal charge from the one being heard by Judge Ellis, who had harsher words last week. Still no ruling on that one.
996495070328213504
Was this the same one who critique Mueller about a week ago?
Get ready for the ST Trumpers to turn on him. :lol
spurraider21
05-15-2018, 04:18 PM
Was this the same one who critique Mueller about a week ago?
Get ready for the ST Trumpers to turn on him. :lol
no. see post above. but he can still face jail time on these charges even if the other one is dropped for whatever reason. this one is for money laundering and failing to register as a foreign agent. the other one is for tax and bank fraud
but it's addressing the identical issue/question: the scope of mueller's investigation, and whether manafort's charges fall under that
i'm surprised they haven't turned on judge sullivan yet, since he hasn't vacated Flynn's guilty plea yet
Chris
05-15-2018, 04:25 PM
Was this the same one who critique Mueller about a week ago?
Get ready for the ST Trumpers to turn on him. :lol
no
zUyqDxa2k3w
Pavlov
05-15-2018, 04:27 PM
Even if Flynn were pardoned/vindicated today, he's been cooperating with the SC investigation for about half a year.
lol
djohn2oo8
05-15-2018, 04:28 PM
zUyqDxa2k3w
Wow Chris really doesn't get it
Chris
05-15-2018, 04:28 PM
996502086408810496
Pavlov
05-15-2018, 04:29 PM
996502086408810496Yeah, that would've worked. :lol
zUyqDxa2k3w
So you think this is great news? :lol Lowly Chris
Chris
05-15-2018, 04:42 PM
Even if Flynn were pardoned/vindicated today, he's been cooperating with the SC investigation for about half a year.
lol
lol the pre-qualifier if the worst happens
Pavlov
05-15-2018, 04:43 PM
lol the pre-qualifier if the worst happensThe very worst case scenario is the SC investigation still has all the information it got from Flynn.
:lol
Chris
05-15-2018, 04:54 PM
996384398143639552
TSA
spurraider21
05-15-2018, 05:09 PM
yeah... i would deflect from the manafort ruling too :lol
djohn2oo8
05-15-2018, 05:20 PM
yeah... i would deflect from the manafort ruling too :lol
:lol
yeah... i would deflect from the manafort ruling too :lol
But..but what about my oh my tweet tho?
http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/oh-my-takei.gif
djohn2oo8
05-15-2018, 06:00 PM
But..but what about my oh my tweet tho?
http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/oh-my-takei.gif
:lmao
boutons_deux
05-15-2018, 07:16 PM
Julie Annie threatening Mueller
Rudy Giuliani warns Mueller to listen to Trump — and threatens him with ‘additional step’
the White House is starting a campaign against special counsel Robert Mueller.
If the prosecutor doesn’t heed their threats and cave into their demands,
they might take “additional steps,”
“We are going to try as best we can to put the message out there that it has been a year, there has been no evidence presented of collusion or obstruction, and
it is about time for them to end the investigation,” Giuliani said. :lol
“We don’t want to signal our action (https://www.rawstory.com/2018/05/giuliani-biographer-explains-rudy-perpetual-hurricane-drama/) if this doesn’t work — we are going to hope they listen to us — but
obviously we have a Plan B and C.” :lol obviously, sez the legal genius defense lawyer
Giuliani also said that there is no reason for Mueller to interview Trump.
If Mueller wants to talk to the president, the former New York mayor said that he would need to turn over the 1.2 million pages of documents cataloging White House interviews and court documents.
He also intends to demand that the investigation end shortly. :lol that'll work! say pretty please :lol
the Watergate investigation took more than two years and
the GOP’s Benghazi investigation continued for four years after the 2012 attacks.
In the investigation into former President Bill Clinton,
special counsel Ken Starr was appointed Aug. 1994. Impeachment for Clinton was initiated in Dec. 1998.
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/05/rudy-giuliani-threatens-special-counsel-robert-muller-listen-trump-might-face-additional-steps/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
Chris
05-15-2018, 07:27 PM
I addressed Manafort almost immediately.
lol deflecting
spurraider21
05-15-2018, 07:32 PM
I addressed Manafort almost immediately.
lol deflecting
you addressed it with risitas
what are your thoughts on the judge denying manafort's motion to dismiss, and ruling that the charges are within the scope of mueller's investigation?
Chris
05-15-2018, 07:54 PM
you addressed it with risitas
what are your thoughts on the judge denying manafort's motion to dismiss, and ruling that the charges are within the scope of mueller's investigation?
I'm not concerned with Manafort since it had nothing to do with the Trump campaign.
spurraider21
05-15-2018, 08:02 PM
I'm not concerned with Manafort since it had nothing to do with the Trump campaign.
brah you cant be celebrating one judge's comments on manafort and then a few days later pretend you dont care about manafort :lol
djohn2oo8
05-15-2018, 08:03 PM
brah you cant be celebrating one judge's comments on manafort and then a few days later pretend you dont care about manafort :lol
:lmao
996384398143639552
TSA
996145481574223878
djohn2oo8
05-15-2018, 08:37 PM
996145481574223878
Nothing on Manafort case? Love the deflecting
Pavlov
05-15-2018, 08:38 PM
996145481574223878
What's the conspiracy theory now, TSA?
Chris
05-15-2018, 09:43 PM
brah you cant be celebrating one judge's comments on manafort and then a few days later pretend you dont care about manafort :lol
I'm not really concerned with Manafort's past.
Chris
05-15-2018, 09:45 PM
996145481574223878
"By that weekend, as a result of consultations within these government agencies, Strzok was headed to London."
Interesting.
spurraider21
05-15-2018, 09:45 PM
I'm not really concerned with Manafort's past.
the you shouldn't have creamed your pants over judge ellis' comments last week about his case :lol
its just sour grapes tbh... things didnt go your way today, so you act like you dont care
Chris
05-15-2018, 09:51 PM
the you shouldn't have creamed your pants over judge ellis' comments last week about his case :lol
its just sour grapes tbh... things didnt go your way today, so you act like you dont care
I didn't cream my pants. Just pointed to the fact that Mueller got rejected twice by two different judges. This sent you off into a tangent for some reason. You can play revisionist history and project all you like.
djohn2oo8
05-15-2018, 10:00 PM
I didn't cream my pants. Just pointed to the fact that Mueller got rejected twice by two different judges. This sent you off into a tangent for some reason. You can play revisionist history and project all you like.
You know who got rejected by a judge today? Manafort.
I didn't cream my pants. Just pointed to the fact that Mueller got rejected twice by two different judges. This sent you off into a tangent for some reason. You can play revisionist history and project all you like.
What got rejected?
All the judge said was that Mueller was trying to get Trump. Did the judge dismiss the case? Or was he just being unprofessional by giving his opinion without all the facts?
Chris
05-15-2018, 10:18 PM
You know who got rejected by a judge today? Manafort.
I know this a big win for you - I will let you and Reck celebrate.
spurraider21
05-15-2018, 10:20 PM
I didn't cream my pants. Just pointed to the fact that Mueller got rejected twice by two different judges. This sent you off into a tangent for some reason. You can play revisionist history and project all you like.
no. you showed one judge deny a continuance, and one judge saying things but not making any rulings or orders
djohn2oo8
05-15-2018, 10:50 PM
I know this a big win for you - I will let you and Reck celebrate.
It's not a win for me. It is a win for the rule of law.
Brazil
05-16-2018, 06:30 AM
I'm not concerned with Manafort since it had nothing to do with the Trump campaign.
brah you cant be celebrating one judge's comments on manafort and then a few days later pretend you dont care about manafort :lol
:lmao
2/90 = 14% :lmao
benefactor
05-16-2018, 06:56 AM
Damn...spurraider crossing Chris over en route to an easy layup tbh
djohn2oo8
05-16-2018, 08:51 AM
996739547299045376
djohn2oo8
05-16-2018, 08:53 AM
996740889342087169
:lmao
djohn2oo8
05-16-2018, 08:54 AM
996743554520223744
boutons_deux
05-16-2018, 10:31 AM
Twitter Totally Isn’t Buying Don Jr.’s Senate Testimony: ‘Absurd Even For a Tragically Incurious Dolt’
The transcript shows Trump Jr.
insisting that his father didn’t know about the meeting in advance, but it also includes tidbits like the part where it
appears Trump Sr. played a role in drafting the false statement on why the meeting took place.
Since the excerpts have already
provided some interesting new information,
Twitter users are taking notice and predicting that this will all
create new intrigue on Russia and potential campaign collusion.
< lots of tweets, much hilarity, incredulity > :lol
https://www.mediaite.com/online/twitter-totally-isnt-buying-don-jr-s-senate-testimony-absurd-even-for-a-tragically-incurious-dolt/ (https://www.mediaite.com/online/twitter-totally-isnt-buying-don-jr-s-senate-testimony-absurd-even-for-a-tragically-incurious-dolt/)
spurraider21
05-16-2018, 12:18 PM
judge's full order on yesterday's manafort ruling
http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2018/images/05/15/manafort.pdf
Pavlov
05-16-2018, 12:24 PM
judge's full order on yesterday's manafort ruling
http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2018/images/05/15/manafort.pdf
Given what was being said publicly, the Special Counsel would have been remiss to ignore such an obvious potential link between the Trump campaign and the Russian government. Thus, the indictment falls well within the authority granted to the Special Counsel to conduct the ongoing investigation previously confirmed by the then-Director of the FBI before Congress, “including . . . any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign.”
lol TSA
lol Chris
spurraider21
05-16-2018, 12:28 PM
interesting note regarding the other case, though
The judge in that case, T.S. Ellis III, gave Manafort’s defense a much-needed boost earlier this month by expressing skepticism about Mueller’s authority to pursue charges with no obvious connection to Russia.
Ellis, an appointee of President Ronald Reagan, seized on the fact that the alleged fraud in the Virginia case dated back to 2005, about a decade before the Trump campaign came into existence. That arguably makes the case more factually removed from Mueller’s central mandate.
Manafort could still lose his motion if Ellis agrees with Jackson that the special counsel regulations can’t be enforced by defendants or finds that Rosenstein approved an expansion of Mueller’s authority for the bank and tax fraud charges. Even if the judge does find a violation, it’s possible he won’t dismiss the case but will simply reassign it to federal prosecutors in Virginia.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/15/manafort-mueller-indictment-590215
RandomGuy
05-16-2018, 12:31 PM
brah you cant be celebrating one judge's comments on manafort and then a few days later pretend you dont care about manafort :lol
You appear to be underestimating the depths of Chris' sophistry. Sure he can. :D
Pavlov
05-16-2018, 12:34 PM
interesting note regarding the other case, though
The judge in that case, T.S. Ellis III, gave Manafort’s defense a much-needed boost earlier this month by expressing skepticism about Mueller’s authority to pursue charges with no obvious connection to Russia.
Ellis, an appointee of President Ronald Reagan, seized on the fact that the alleged fraud in the Virginia case dated back to 2005, about a decade before the Trump campaign came into existence. That arguably makes the case more factually removed from Mueller’s central mandate.
Manafort could still lose his motion if Ellis agrees with Jackson that the special counsel regulations can’t be enforced by defendants or finds that Rosenstein approved an expansion of Mueller’s authority for the bank and tax fraud charges. Even if the judge does find a violation, it’s possible he won’t dismiss the case but will simply reassign it to federal prosecutors in Virginia.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/15/manafort-mueller-indictment-590215[/FONT][/COLOR]I figured the reassignment scenario is worst-case. I had a thought that Gates and Manafort could be seen as extending the conspiracy involving the older fraud well into the time they were employed by Trump.
Manafort still looks totally screwed.
RandomGuy
05-16-2018, 12:36 PM
I didn't cream my pants. Just pointed to the fact that Mueller got rejected twice by two different judges. This sent you off into a tangent for some reason. You can play revisionist history and project all you like.
The motion to dismiss will be denied for a number of reasons.
First, the indictment falls squarely within that portion of the authority granted to the Special Counsel that Manafort finds unobjectionable: the order to investigate “any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign.”
But even if one posits that the scrutiny of Manafort’s alleged activities on behalf of Ukraine did not flow from the investigation of “links” to Russia that was assigned to the Special Counsel, and that instead, it was a “matter that arose” from that investigation, the indictment should not be dismissed.
Also, even if a judge were to conclude that the regulations could give rise to rights that can be enforced in a courtroom, the Acting Attorney General did not violate those regulations when he exercised his statutory authority to authorize the Special Counsel to investigate not only “links and/or coordination,” but also, “any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation.”
Finally, the case did not arise in a vacuum, and the Special Counsel did not create his own job description. He was appointed to take over an existing investigation, and it appears from the chronology and the written record that the matters contained in the Superseding Indictment were already a part of the ongoing inquiry that was lawfully transferred to the Special Counsel by the Department of Justice in May of 2017.
:rollin
djohn2oo8
05-16-2018, 12:39 PM
996795607317647360
Boom!!!
996740889342087169
:lmao
Fredo Jr. :lol
boutons_deux
05-16-2018, 01:12 PM
New ruling: Manafort's effort to dodge federal charges just landed him in twice as much trouble (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/5/15/1764579/-New-ruling-Manafort-s-effort-to-dodge-federal-charges-just-landed-him-in-twice-as-much-trouble)
Special Counsel Bob Mueller leveled charges against former Trump campaign chair Paul Manafort in federal courts in both D.C. and Virginia. Together, the
two cases span 30 charges (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/we-may-know-why-paul-manafort-has-kept-quiet-but-his-bet-is-still-risky/2018/03/28/ff1fa8a4-32cc-11e8-8bdd-cdb33a5eef83_story.html?utm_term=.f50a3b510269).
unlikely Manafort’s attempt to get the Virginia charges dropped is to succeed. Instead, he’ll likely to have to defend himself in two districts.
Problem for Manafort is that the judge’s tirade signaling his hostility to Mueller’s case probably constituted reversible error (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/5/4/1762016/-Judge-in-the-bank-fraud-case-against-Manafort-goes-rogue-accuses-Mueller-of-aiming-for-impeachment); an adverse ruling isn’t likely to hold up on appeal (https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/05/why-a-judge-challenged-muellers-authority-to-charge-manafort.html).
judge Amy Berman Jackson has not just eviscerated Manafort’s argument but done so in an extensive, extremely quotable salvo equally applicable to his Virginia case.
Judge Berman Jackson notes that even if “a judge” ruled that Manafort can challenge the scope of Mueller’s authority based on Special Counsel Regulations,
which are internal to the Department of Justice and not something Manafort can sue under,
those Regulations still don’t help Manafort.
Manafort seems likely (https://www.dailykos.com/blog/Rebecca%20Pilar%20Buckwalter%20Poza/)to end up fighting charges in two jurisdictions in separate proceedings, which’s gotta be less cost and time efficient, especially if he’s bringing lawyers in from D.C. for every appearance.
On the other hand, it could buy him time if his backup goal is to prolong the proceedings as long as possible.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/5/15/1764579/-New-ruling-Manafort-s-effort-to-dodge-federal-charges-just-landed-him-in-twice-as-much-trouble?detail=emaildkre
djohn2oo8
05-16-2018, 01:16 PM
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djohn2oo8
05-16-2018, 01:17 PM
996779255441784844
:lmao wow
Pavlov
05-16-2018, 01:17 PM
996796445519962112FBI has been investigating that for months.
djohn2oo8
05-16-2018, 01:19 PM
996766105975906304
:lmao jr
spurraider21
05-16-2018, 01:37 PM
it's a natural segue from adoptions
boutons_deux
05-16-2018, 01:45 PM
Forget about whether Team Trump got 'dirt' at Trump Tower—the Russians found plenty of promise there (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/5/16/1764793/-Forget-about-whether-Team-Trump-got-dirt-at-Trump-Tower-the-Russians-found-plenty-of-promise-there)
https://images.dailykos.com/images/423628/story_image/russia_copy.jpg?1499887846
Considering that the Russian lawyer and key participant, Natalia Veselnitskaya, admitted last month to being an "informant (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russian-lawyer-who-met-with-trump-jr-says-she-is-an-informant/)" for the Russian government,
one has to wonder what she informed Russian officials about following the meeting.
What's the first thing she told them?
We promised (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/07/11/us/politics/donald-trump-jr-email-text.html) Team Trump information that "would incriminate Hillary" and "be very useful" to Donald Trump's candidacy, and
three of the campaign's top officials showed up at the meeting:
Trump's eldest son, Don Jr.,
Trump's son-in-law and director of digital outreach, Jared Kushner, and
Trump's campaign manager, Paul Manafort.
Veselnitskaya's takeaway: They were eager and open for business with us.
Don Jr. also expressed disappointment (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/thousands-of-pages-of-congressional-testimony-shed-light-on-2016-trump-tower-meeting/2018/05/16/316192fc-58b4-11e8-8836-a4a123c359ab_story.html?utm_term=.f47e0f31b12a) to the Judiciary panel about what little dirt actually materialized in the meeting: “All else being equal, I wouldn’t have wanted to waste 20 minutes..."
The Russians also got an opening from Don Jr. on
potentially easing sanctions imposed on Russia by the Magnitsky Act,
Don Jr. closed the meeting by hinting at a quid pro quo (https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2018-05-16/the-latest-dems-say-transcripts-dont-tell-the-whole-story).
Donald Trump Jr. shut down the June 2016 meeting at Trump Tower by telling his Russian guests perhaps
they'd revisit the discussion about lifting sanctions legislation should his father win the election.
Team Trump appears to have been open (https://www.npr.org/2018/05/16/611477917/senate-committee-releases-2-500-pages-about-2016-trump-tower-meeting) to the idea of getting help from a Russian social media network,
VK, with voter turnout among Russian-speaking Americans.
"I'm following up on an email [from] a while back of something I had mentioned to Don and Paul Manafort during a meeting recently," Goldstone wrote to Scavino on June 29. [...] "
At the time, Paul had said he would welcome it, and so I had the VK folks mock up a basic sample page, which I am resending for your approval now," Goldstone wrote.
one more example of Team Trump's openness to Russian help in the election.
Bottom line:
Team Trump may not have been impressed with the dirt it sought to obtain, but the Russians clearly got the message the Trump camp was plenty eager for the Kremlin's help.
t Sen. Dianne Feinstein outlined in her statement (https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/b/3/b3e29bc4-8afd-4145-85d9-618dcad4a133/D069EF11DC3784A6D073B097E720572E.2018.05.15-transcript-release-findings-9-am.pdf) summarizing the documents:
The Trump campaign accepted this offer of “official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary [Clinton],” which was also described as “part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.”
Top campaign officials Paul Manafort, Jared Kushner, and Donald Trump Jr. did not reject the offer of election assistance from a hostile foreign government. Nor did they report this offer to law enforcement authorities. Instead, they attended the meeting.
Afterwards, Donald Trump Jr. issued misleading statements, with assistance from the White House, that concealed the meeting’s true purpose.
All of those signals left the door wide open for other approaches by the Kremlin.
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:lol TSA's hero going down with the ship. :lol
djohn2oo8
05-16-2018, 02:22 PM
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:lol TSA's hero going down with the ship. :lol
:lol Carter Page the active Russian spy :lol
spurraider21
05-16-2018, 02:37 PM
:lol Carter Page the active Russian spy :lol
:lol Carter Page the active FBI agent who the FBI decided to get a FISA warrant to monitor :lol
DarrinS
05-16-2018, 02:43 PM
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Pavlov
05-16-2018, 02:44 PM
996794316768071682She doesn't have it right.
boutons_deux
05-16-2018, 02:44 PM
:lol Carter Page the active FBI agent who the FBI decided to get a FISA warrant to monitor :lol
double agent
:lol Illegal wiretapping
:lol Still pushing that shitty false narrative
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