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djohn2oo8
04-27-2018, 07:16 PM
Flynn didn't lie. There goes that.
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So he lied to a judge about lying to the FBI? Okay. That would still be a federal crime Chris.
djohn2oo8
04-27-2018, 07:17 PM
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All these indictments but no Susan Rice
djohn2oo8
04-27-2018, 08:43 PM
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Surprising no one
boutons_deux
04-27-2018, 08:47 PM
Surprising no one
NSA could confirm that Flynn's 5 calls to Russia in one day included Magnitsky Act topic
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Surprising no one
You’d think CNN could come up with a better distraction for Clapper leaking to Tapper than this huge non-story :lol
Chris
04-27-2018, 08:56 PM
did you contribute to his legal defense fund?
I see you've given up on that one.
Since you're convinced Flynn will be convicted, how many years do you think he should get in prison?
djohn2oo8
04-27-2018, 08:59 PM
NSA could confirm that Flynn's 5 calls to Russia in one day included Magnitsky Act topic
yep
Chris
04-27-2018, 09:04 PM
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djohn2oo8
04-27-2018, 09:08 PM
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Has Mueller?
https://media.giphy.com/media/txFihGgmSbIoU/200w.webp
You’d think CNN could come up with a better distraction for Clapper leaking to Tapper than this huge non-story :lol
That should tell you something.
No one cares about it. That includes Fox News.
Or what? You dont think Nunes doesn't leak shit all the time to them? :lol TSA
spurraider21
04-27-2018, 09:46 PM
I see you've given up on that one.
Since you're convinced Flynn will be convicted, how many years do you think he should get in prison?
he has already been convicted. that's what a guilty plea does
djohn2oo8
04-27-2018, 11:53 PM
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things that make you go hmm
djohn2oo8
04-27-2018, 11:53 PM
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hmmm
DJohn must have something to gain by retweeting Kyle Griffin. Never heard of this guy prior to this thread.
Pavlov
04-28-2018, 02:41 AM
Everyone agrees he didn't lie.Flynn disagrees.
Flynn pleaded guilty.
Since you're convinced Flynn will be convicted, how many years do you think he should get in prison?
he has already been convicted. that's what a guilty plea does
:lol We have found the level of the Trumpista room.
Chris
04-28-2018, 04:07 AM
:lol We have found the level of the Trumpista room.
Yeah you both know what I meant. Pretty childish tbh
Pavlov
04-28-2018, 11:35 AM
Yeah you both know what I meant. Pretty childish tbhYeah, you meant convicted because that's what you wrote. Pretty childish to try and say you meant something else.
Given all the news that's come out about Flynn and the super harsh plea agreement he signed, I concluded that there are other more serious charges that have been filed against Flynn and/or his son under seal or just being held over them in case he doesn't fully cooperate. The fact that both parties are agreeing to put off sentencing would tend to support this IMO; if Flynn only had the perjury charge to worry about, he'd want to get sentenced ASAP so Dennison could pardon him.
Chris
04-28-2018, 12:46 PM
Yep I was right :tu
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DarrinS
04-28-2018, 12:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb8_ijEjoQ8
Pavlov
04-28-2018, 12:58 PM
Yep I was right :tu
990236199414616064:lol Multimillionaire had to plead guilty because of the cost of defending a couple of process crimes.
djohn2oo8
04-28-2018, 01:01 PM
:lol Multimillionaire had to plead guilty because of the cost of defending a couple of process crimes.
So Flynn lied to prosecutors and a judge, both federal crimes still. Boy that Chris is sharp.
DarrinS
04-28-2018, 01:04 PM
tainted
Pavlov
04-28-2018, 01:06 PM
What is tainted and how, Darrin?
You made a specific charge, now back it up.
djohn2oo8
04-28-2018, 02:32 PM
What is tainted and how, Darrin?
You made a specific charge, now back it up.
lol getting real tired of his hide and seek act.
Pavlov
04-28-2018, 02:50 PM
lol getting real tired of his hide and seek act.Eh, he didn't even watch the clip he posted.
boutons_deux
04-28-2018, 02:51 PM
Journalist Sarah Kendzior: Russian lawyer’s Kremlin confession will implicate more than Don Jr
“I mean yes, there should be a problem,” Kendzior replied.
“There should’ve been a problem from the very beginning when he published his e-mails …
we saw this laid out, we saw the illicit ties that they had denied a long time —
documented.”
“What’s important is to look at this in the broader scope of illicit connections between members of the Trump campaign and Trump administration and the Kremlin and oligarchs,” Kendzior suggested.
“Trump, Jr. is only one part of this puzzle.”
“They are trying to say there is no collusion,
but I think what we’re seeing here is the cover up,” she continued.
“We have two layers of this problem, one is what they did in the illicit ties and the other is the constant lying that’s been going on for the last two years.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/04/journalist-sarah-kendzior-russian-lawyers-kremlin-confession-will-implicate-don-jr/
tainted
You and Chris are the same person. At least he's upfront about his trumpism though.
I'd like to read how Flynn's guilty plead is somehow tainted though. Cant wait for your explanation on how the FBI and DOJ made Flynn plead guilty.
Journalist Sarah Kendzior: Russian lawyer’s Kremlin confession will implicate more than Don Jr
You are correct. It will implicate the Obama DOJ for letting her in the country and also will implicate the DNC/Clinton campaign for hiring Fusion GPS whom she worked with.
Pavlov
04-28-2018, 03:03 PM
You are correct. It will implicate the Obama DOJ for letting her in the country and also will implicate the DNC/Clinton campaign for hiring Fusion GPS whom she worked with.Walk me through your conspiracy theory, TSA.
You won't.
Winehole23
04-28-2018, 03:09 PM
lol getting real tired of his hide and seek act.DarrenS has good reason to limit himself to drive-bys and eye rolls. When he uses his own words his takes generally fail at delivery.
Walk me through your conspiracy theory, TSA.
You won't.
There isn’t a conspiracy to walk you through those are just statements of fact. The Obama DOJ let a Kremlin spy into the country. The DNC/Clinton Campaign hired a firm who was working with the same Kremlin Russian spy.
I’d ask you to dispute that but you can’t.
Pavlov
04-28-2018, 03:11 PM
There isn’t a conspiracy to walk you through those are just statements of fact. The Obama DOJ let a Kremlin spy into the country. The DNC/Clinton Campaign hired a firm who was working with the same Kremlin Russian spy.
I’d ask you to dispute that but you can’t.Yeah, your conspiracy theory s they were all somehow conspiring together in a conspiracy.
Explain how that works, TSA.
You won't.
TSA said they're facts. :lol Pizzaboy going full retard per par.
Yeah, your conspiracy theory s they were all somehow conspiring together in a conspiracy.
Explain how that works, TSA.
You won't.
No shit I won’t. I just stated there isn’t a conspiracy theory to walk you through, just statements of fact.
Pavlov
04-28-2018, 03:16 PM
No shit I won’t.You aren't even saying they were all working together in a conspiracy and the only value in mentioning them is innuendo.
Nice.
I'll accept that.
DarrinS
04-28-2018, 03:19 PM
Eh, he didn't even watch the clip he posted.
Wrong
TSA said they're facts. :lol Pizzaboy going full retard per par.
Indisputable facts.
Obama admin got Natalia Veselnitskaya into the US.
Natalia Veselnitskaya worked with Fusion GPS.
DNC/Clinton campaign hired Fusion GPS.
Pavlov
04-28-2018, 03:21 PM
WrongGreat, then give your opinion how Flynn's guilty plea is tainted.
Pavlov
04-28-2018, 03:22 PM
TSA said they're facts. :lol Pizzaboy going full retard per par.He knows they didn't all work together in some grand conspiracy and that he would be destroyed if he said he did -- but all he has at this point is innuendo and blogs that feed him that innuendo and fantasy.
You aren't even saying they were all working together in a conspiracy and the only value in mentioning them is innuendo.No shit I didn’t say they were all working together in a conspiracy. I was clearly responding to boutons article on who else would be implicated because of her Kremlin ties.
Would the Obama admin be implicated for letting Natalia Veselnitskaya in the country after previously being denied?
Yes or no.
Would the DNC/Clinton campaign be implicated for hiring a firm that was working with a Kremlin spy?
Yes or no.
DarrinS
04-28-2018, 03:26 PM
Great, then give your opinion how Flynn's guilty plea is tainted.
I wasn’t referring to Flynn’s guilty plea.
Pavlov
04-28-2018, 03:27 PM
No shit I didn’t say they were all working together in a conspiracy. I was clearly responding to boutons article on who else would be implicated because of her Kremlin ties.
Would the Obama admin be implicated for letting Natalia Veselnitskaya in the country after previously being denied?
Yes or no.Implicated in what?
Would the DNC/Clinton campaign be implicated for hiring a firm that was working with a Kremlin spy?
Yes or no.Implicated in what?
Pavlov
04-28-2018, 03:29 PM
I wasn’t referring to Flynn’s guilty plea.Great, say what you were actually talking about and how whatever you were referring to is tainted.
DarrinS
04-28-2018, 03:30 PM
Great, say what you were actually talking about and how whatever you were referring to is tainted.
It’s obvious that YOU didn’t watch the video.
Pavlov
04-28-2018, 03:32 PM
It’s obvious that YOU didn’t watch the video.I did. I want your opinion.
Do you even have your own opinion, Darrin?
DarrinS
04-28-2018, 03:35 PM
I did. I want your opinion.
Do you even have your own opinion, Darrin?
I agree with Mark Penn. My opinion of this Russia collusion hysteria hasn’t changed.
Pavlov
04-28-2018, 03:37 PM
I agree with Mark Penn. My opinion of this Russia collusion hysteria hasn’t changed.So every conviction and piece of evidence collected is tainted in your opinion?
I'll ask what I ask the other conspiracy theorists -- when did the first probe into Russian election influence start and what started it?
DarrinS
04-28-2018, 03:39 PM
Who’s been convicted of collusion with Russia? :lol
Implicated in what?
Implicated in what?
I clearly said what I thought each was implicated in and you quoted it. Stop stalling. Simple yes or no questions. Don’t dodge again.
Would the Obama admin be implicated for letting Natalia Veselnitskaya in the country after previously being denied?
Yes or no.
Would the DNC/Clinton campaign be implicated for hiring a firm that was working with a Kremlin spy?
Yes or no.
So every conviction and piece of evidence collected is tainted in your opinion?
I'll ask what I ask the other conspiracy theorists -- when did the first probe into Russian election influence start and what started it?
I’ll ask what I ask the other Trump/Russia election conspiracy theorists — how many convictions or indictments are Trump/Russia election collusion?
Pavlov
04-28-2018, 03:43 PM
Who’s been convicted of collusion with Russia? :lol
https://media1.tenor.com/images/c924b622b71a51d0c4aa21760c69b9f3/tenor.gif?itemid=9264828So every conviction and piece of evidence collected is tainted in your opinion?
I'll ask what I ask the other conspiracy theorists -- when did the first probe into Russian election influence start and what started it?
I clearly said what I thought each was implicated in and you quoted it.No, you did not.
You're saying they would be implicated if the things that are already known are somehow more known.
Implicated in what?
Pavlov
04-28-2018, 03:44 PM
I’ll ask what I ask the other Trump/Russia election conspiracy theorists — how many convictions or indictments are Trump/Russia election collusion?None so far.
I wouldn't expect Mueller to lead with those. That would be stupid.
Now quit stalling and dodging.
Blake
04-28-2018, 03:49 PM
Blake I need some clarification. Did some dude fuck your wife because he lost a bet?
Aw, the usual porn isn't working any more huh
DarrinS
04-28-2018, 03:53 PM
So every conviction and piece of evidence collected is tainted in your opinion?
Nope.
But, if the source of the original evidence or the original evidence itself is tainted, then anything GAINED from it is tainted as well. That fruit of the poisonous tree thingy.
Pavlov
04-28-2018, 03:54 PM
Nope.
But, if the source of the original evidence or the original evidence itself is tainted, then anything GAINED from it is tainted as well. That fruit of the poisonous tree thingy.So what is tainted and what isn't, Darrin?
You've made the distinction, so what convictions and evidence are currently tainted in your opinion?
boutons_deux
04-28-2018, 04:11 PM
Trump-Allied National Enquirer Turns on Michael Cohen: ‘Secrets & Lies!’
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https://www.mediaite.com/print/trump-allied-national-enquirer-turns-on-michael-cohen-secrets-lies/
Go ahead, Trash and all his allies keep dumping on Cohen, and so just begging him to flip.
boutons_deux
04-28-2018, 04:22 PM
There’s New Evidence Trump Obstructed Justice in the House Intelligence Committee’s Minority Report
The dueling House Intelligence Committee reports into Russian election interference, both released on Friday, provide new information that adds significantly to a picture of obstruction of justice and abuse of power on the part of President Donald Trump.
At the same time, the reason that this information is parsed in the minority’s report but not the Republican majority’s (https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/hpsci_-_declassified_committee_report_redacted_final_reda cted.pdf) is because Chairman Rep. Devin Nunes appears not to have had any interest in investigating the obstruction issue, much to his discredit.
What’s more, McCabe’s December 2017 testimony is detailed and, in important instances, refers to other senior FBI officials as witnesses to the same events and conversations as him.
At least one of those officials—James Baker, the FBI general counsel—was also present during McCabe’s testimony.
It is also useful to recall that
Rep. Nunes and the GOP members of the committee have themselves publicly relied on McCabe’s December 2017 testimony.
In particular, they invoke McCabe’s testimony in a key sentence (http://www.businessinsider.com/key-sentence-of-the-nunes-memo-read-text-2018-2) in their earlier memo (https://docs.house.gov/meetings/IG/IG00/20180129/106822/HMTG-115-IG00-20180129-SD001.pdf) concerning the surveillance of Carter Page, as though
McCabe’s testimony provided significant support for that memo’s conclusions.
what are the new revelations on potential obstruction and abuse of power?
Baker and FBI Director James Comey’s chief of staff James Rybicki listened in on Comey’s side of at least some phone conversations with the president, in which Trump reportedly attempted to alter the course of the Russia investigation.
Both Comey and McCabe interpreted one of the president’s phone calls as threatening Comey if he did not lift the cloud of the Russia investigation.
McCabe testified that the FBI director and he “weren’t 100 percent sure what that was” but interpreted it as “a veiled threat.”
Second, the FBI director and deputy director were also concerned that the president was threatening to take action against McCabe if the FBI director did not lift the cloud of the Russia investigation.
Trump repeatedly brought up McCabe in these conversations about the probe. McCabe testified that he and Comey were concerned that the president “was bringing it up as some sort of an almost a veiled threat.”
Other observations in the minority report and in McCabe’s testimony are perhaps less significant on their own, but also add to the case for obstruction and abuse of power.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/04/new-obstruction-of-justice-evidence-in-the-house-intelligence-committees-minority-report-on-the-russia-investigation.html
boutons_deux
04-28-2018, 04:48 PM
‘Putin has no further use for Trump’: CNN analyst explains why Trump Tower lawyer just admitted Kremlin connections
Brain Karem (https://twitter.com/BrianKarem?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp% 7Ctwgr%5Eauthor), said his sources are indicating that this may be the next phase in
Putin’s efforts to undermine the United States by exposing his help of Trump and further delegitimizing him.
“What this may signal is that Putin has no more use for Trump,” he said. “The timing was specifically made for after he was exhorted in Congress…
This may be further psy-ops, said panelist Ryan Lizza (https://twitter.com/RyanLizza), who pointed out that
Vladimir Putin has a long record of denying and later admitting his actions.
“This is part of a vast covert action campaign run out of the Kremlim,” said panelist Robert Baer (https://twitter.com/RobertBaer).
“They’re using these proxies, like this lawyer… the old model of using the KGB has been dropped… Putin is bragging about this.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/04/putin-no-use-trump-cnn-analyst-explains-trump-tower-lawyer-just-admitted-kremlin-connections/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
Chris
04-28-2018, 05:46 PM
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Chris
04-28-2018, 05:58 PM
The Justice Department Inspector General reportedly issued a criminal referral of former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe to the U.S. Attorney’s office in Washington, DC.
:corn:
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I'm going to give you this one, Chris. Even though it's not even your take.
Comey was way over his head as FBI director. He sucked at that job.
Chris
04-28-2018, 10:52 PM
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boutons_deux
04-29-2018, 07:16 AM
The Most Egregious Failed Follow-Ups From the House Intel Committee’s Russia Investigation
On Friday, Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee released a heavily redacted report (https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/hpsci_-_declassified_committee_report_redacted_final_reda cted.pdf)drawing their sham inquiry (https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/03/good-riddance-to-the-craven-dishonest-deeply-stupid-house-russia-investigation.html) into Russian election interference to an apparent close.
the investigation itself never sought answers to the biggest questions around Russia’s interference in the 2016 election and what role members of Trump World may have had in that campaign.
The majority of subpoenas in the case did not cover Russian election interference, but rather “counter-investigations” into the intelligence community itself.
The head of the investigation was secretly communicating with one of the subjects of the inquiry and the subject refused to explain those interactions under oath.
As previously reported (https://www.buzzfeed.com/thomasfrank/two-democrats-accuse-cambridge-analytica-ceo-of-misleading?utm_term=.fnlVeV97n#.wqkeYeGqR), Cambridge Analytica’s Alexander Nix appears to have lied under oath.
Donald Trump Jr. told the investigation he was looking to collude during his infamous Russia meeting, but was only stymied because he claims the Russians he met didn’t have the goods.
Trump sent the intermediary for the Trump Jr. meeting an exuberant thank you note for a birthday gift (an expensive painting) a little more than one week after the meeting itself (and one day before (https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/27/us/politics/assange-timed-wikileaks-release-of-democratic-emails-to-harm-hillary-clinton.html) Julian Assange told British television his organization had obtained “emails related to Hillary Clinton”).
As previously reported, Guccifer 2.0 sought advice from Roger Stone on precise and micro electoral questions.
The Republican report claims that Paul Manafort had no knowledge of the efforts during the Republican National Convention to soften the GOP platform on the Ukraine conflict, based almost entirely on an email by Manafort purporting to have not had knowledge of the moves.
Contrary to prior testimony (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/sessions-says-he-now-recalls-meeting-trump-aide-n820676) (and as previously reported), Attorney General Jeff Sessions apparently had a vivid memory of his meeting with George Papadopoulos in which the campaign advisor mentioned his contacts with Russians and suggested setting up a meeting between Putin and Trump. Sessions also had Logan Act concerns.
In at least one email, campaign high ups did not want to officially cover George Papadopoulos’ expenses. Which raises the question: How might he have been paid?
The majority report takes Erik Prince at his word that he wasn’t meeting with a Russian investor in the Seychelles to set up a back channel communication for the Trump administration to Russia. (The Washington Post has reported (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/mueller-gathers-evidence-that-2016-seychelles-meeting-was-effort-to-establish-back-channel-to-kremlin/2018/03/07/b6a5fb8c-224b-11e8-94da-ebf9d112159c_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.2da7b45bbee5) that a witness to the meeting is contradicting Prince’s account of the meeting in testimony to Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s probe.)
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/04/the-most-egregious-ignored-follow-ups-from-the-house-intel-committees-russia-investigation.html
Repugs are bullshitters, frauds, liars, in total bad faith.
Thanks, all you Repug asshole voters!
boutons_deux
04-29-2018, 09:39 AM
Here’s The New Sign That Michael Cohen Will Flip on Trump
the Enquirer’s parent company, American Media Inc., is run by Trump’s longtime friend David Pecker.
The New York Times catalogued the Pecker-Trump love affair (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/29/us/politics/trump-national-enquirer-david-pecker.html?mtrref=www.google.com&gwh=8BE94223E4FF19B5B242EC8802D96EC6&gwt=pay) in a piece last month. And Trump has personally spoken (tweeted) well of Pecker’s journalistic acumen–saying he should be the new CEO of Time Magazine (https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/325353669870628864?lang=en).
If Pecker is letting loose on Cohen–and his team is, at least–then Trump probably knows about it.
It’s even likely the details contained in the Enquirer’s front page hit piece on Cohen were sourced from people close to Trump. In other words: this
volte-face from Pecker and his company was probably a decision from on high.
suggesting Cohen and Trump are on the outs.
In real terms, this means Trump likely expects Cohen to flip–so he and his allies have turned on the fixer. Harsh words from pro-Trump media are likely to be
well understood by Cohen, too: he just might be running out of friends.
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/heres-the-new-evidence-that-michael-cohen-will-flip-on-trump/
Chris
04-29-2018, 02:45 PM
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Pavlov
04-29-2018, 03:07 PM
990649750474186753The Trump administration is free to prosecute her at any time.
It's been over a year.
What's the holdup?
boutons_deux
04-29-2018, 03:09 PM
The Trump administration is free to prosecute her at any time.
It's been over a year.
What's the holdup?
Where's the evidence?
LG's opinion doesn't count.
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Umm Chris (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1656). Any thoughts?
Chris
04-29-2018, 05:08 PM
The Trump administration is free to prosecute her at any time.
It's been over a year.
What's the holdup?
Cleaning house at the FBI first imo
Chris
04-29-2018, 05:09 PM
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Umm Chris (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1656). Any thoughts?
He said Congress should not accuse but he's comfortable with IG Horowitz doing the accusing. Non-story clickbait. You got Gowdy'd.
Pavlov
04-29-2018, 05:10 PM
Cleaning house at the FBI first imoHillary Clinton will not be prosecuted over the emails.
Chris
04-29-2018, 05:14 PM
Hillary Clinton will not be prosecuted over the emails.
Interesting theory.
Pavlov
04-29-2018, 05:19 PM
Interesting theory.It's a prediction. What's yours?
Chris
04-29-2018, 05:39 PM
It's a prediction. What's yours?
Hillary Clinton destroyed all the evidence. It's a safe prediction, but I going with prosecution.
Pavlov
04-29-2018, 05:40 PM
Hillary Clinton destroyed all the evidence. It's a safe prediction, but I going with prosecution.All the evidence of what?
Chris
04-29-2018, 05:48 PM
All the evidence of what?
If you're going to play dumb, then I'm not going to waste my time.
Pavlov
04-29-2018, 05:50 PM
If you're going to play dumb, then I'm not going to waste my time.You're the one who said she destroyed evidence. That implies it's evidence of a crime. That naturally leads to these questions: What evidence of which crimes? If the evidence of the crime is destroyed, how can the crime be prosecuted?
I'll take answers or your white flag.
boutons_deux
04-29-2018, 06:53 PM
Rep. Gowdy: Intelligence Committee Report Did Not Vindicate Trump
http://www.nationalmemo.com/279113-2/
dabom
04-29-2018, 06:54 PM
You're the one who said she destroyed evidence. That implies it's evidence of a crime. That naturally leads to these questions: What evidence of which crimes? If the evidence of the crime is destroyed, how can the crime be prosecuted?
I'll take answers or your white flag.
:lol
djohn2oo8
04-29-2018, 07:06 PM
You're the one who said she destroyed evidence. That implies it's evidence of a crime. That naturally leads to these questions: What evidence of which crimes? If the evidence of the crime is destroyed, how can the crime be prosecuted?
I'll take answers or your white flag.
:lmao
boutons_deux
04-30-2018, 07:43 AM
BOMBSHELL: GOP Report Says Mike Flynn Went to Infamous Russian Spymaster’s House in 2015 For ‘Very Productive’ Meeting
Will Trump pardon Flynn?
The House Republicans' report on Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election (https://t.co/wGbsTKYFeH)
claims that there was no collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia
the report claims that both Flynn and his son, Michael Flynn Jr.,
met with former Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak at his private residence in early December of 2015,
just two months before Flynn would formally join the Trump campaign as a foreign policy adviser.
What's more, the report says that Flynn Jr. sent an email to the Russian embassy after the meeting that described it as "very productive."
Despite this, the report says that
investigators did not reach out to the Flynns to learn the nature of this meeting
because both of them had made clear their "intent to assert their Fifth Amendment rights against self-incrimination."
Days after the meeting at Kislyak's house, Flynn flew to Moscow and attended a dinner commemorating the 10th anniversary of the founding of Russian state media outlet RT.com
that was also attended by Russian President Vladimir Putin.
https://www.alternet.org/bombshell-gop-report-says-mike-flynn-went-infamous-russian-spymasters-house-2015-very-productive
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Pavlov
04-30-2018, 12:20 PM
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https://www.redstate.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/schiff-bug-eyes-620x566.jpglol your article is about a word count.
spurraider21
04-30-2018, 12:33 PM
but but... the photoshop of schiff! bug eyes!
:lol the image URL goes back to redstate
TSA believes in Aliens.
And as shocking as that is, its not the worse conspiracy of his.
Chris
04-30-2018, 03:10 PM
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Chris
04-30-2018, 03:16 PM
https://i1.wp.com/truepundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/comeyoval06211301aapop_thumb.jpg?w=440&ssl=1
Pavlov
04-30-2018, 03:19 PM
990947214968217600Trump colluded with Mueller hours before Mueller was appointed Special Counsel!
boutons_deux
04-30-2018, 03:24 PM
Trump campaign has paid portions of Michael Cohen's legal fees
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-campaign-paid-portions-michael-cohens-legal-fees/story?id=54831269
... since Cohen was noyt a legal, official member of Trash's campaign, paying (for) him with campaign cash for personal (Daniels) stuff is a campaign violation.
Chris
04-30-2018, 03:35 PM
Mueller is a Republican. He's a good goy!
spurraider21
04-30-2018, 04:05 PM
https://i1.wp.com/truepundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/comeyoval06211301aapop_thumb.jpg?w=440&ssl=1
https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2017/05/17/104474645-Trump_Comey_.jpg?v=1496687034
Chris
04-30-2018, 04:06 PM
https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2017/05/17/104474645-Trump_Comey_.jpg?v=1496687034
Notice how Trump doesn't make eye contact. No respect for Clown Comey :lol
spurraider21
04-30-2018, 04:07 PM
Notice how Trump doesn't make eye contact. No respect for Clown Comey :lol
probably too out of shape to bend his neck that much :lol
Pavlov
04-30-2018, 04:29 PM
[fake quote]What do you mean by "good goy"?
Chris
04-30-2018, 04:32 PM
What do you mean by "good goy"?
It means you're a faggot.
Pavlov
04-30-2018, 04:33 PM
It means you're a faggot.Actually you would be inferring I'm Jewish for some reason.
Why is that important for you to say?
Chris
04-30-2018, 04:45 PM
Actually you would be inferring I'm Jewish for some reason.
Why is that important for you to say?
Yeah that's what I'm inferring. Damn you're good.
Pavlov
04-30-2018, 04:52 PM
Yeah that's what I'm inferring. Damn you're good.Are you trying to say something else?
Speak up, Chris. Be a proud boy.
Chris
04-30-2018, 07:07 PM
Are you trying to say something else?
Speak up, Chris. Be a proud boy.
:lol
You take everything at face value. What a shame.
Chris
04-30-2018, 07:20 PM
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Either the agent is cooperating or Sessions has bigger fish to fry imo
Pavlov
04-30-2018, 07:24 PM
:lol
You take everything at face value. What a shame.I take your white flag again and again.
Chris
04-30-2018, 07:27 PM
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Pavlov
04-30-2018, 07:28 PM
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https://media2.giphy.com/media/edho4s1lWEawo/giphy.gifYeah, they've been drafted for Trump too.
Mueller has Trump on obstruction pretty good.
:lol TSA thinking Giuliani was gonna wrap this up. :lmao
djohn2oo8
04-30-2018, 10:42 PM
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djohn2oo8
04-30-2018, 10:43 PM
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:lmao Mueller bout to go knee deep in dat ass
djohn2oo8
04-30-2018, 10:44 PM
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:lol oh my!
djohn2oo8
04-30-2018, 10:56 PM
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lol
djohn2oo8
04-30-2018, 10:58 PM
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boutons_deux
04-30-2018, 11:04 PM
Trump campaign aide Manafort sued by bankruptcy trustee over California property deal
A bankruptcy trustee has filed a lawsuit against Paul Manafort in California alleging that he falsely claimed he was a creditor owed $2.7 million in a failed real estate deal with his former son-in-law.
Manafort has been indicted for money laundering, tax evasion and other charges by a special counsel probing alleged links between the Trump campaign and Russia.
The California lawsuit relates to a $2.7 million deed of trust that Manafort recorded in Los Angeles County that positioned himself as a secured creditor in a luxury property he was developing in partnership with his former son-in-law, Jeffrey Yohai.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-manafort/trump-campaign-aide-manafort-sued-by-bankruptcy-trustee-over-california-property-deal-idUSKBN1I22PQ?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews
The Best People
Chris
04-30-2018, 11:12 PM
Jim Acosta :lmao
National Enquirer :lmao
:lmao
Pavlov
04-30-2018, 11:51 PM
Jim Acosta :lmao
National Enquirer :lmao
:lmaoDo you know who owns the Enquirer, Chris?
spurraider21
05-01-2018, 08:37 AM
Do you know who owns the Enquirer, Chris?
Soros?
Spurminator
05-01-2018, 09:36 AM
The National Enquirer became an important and reliable propaganda publication for the winner of the 2016 Presidential Election.
Let that sink in. That's where we are.
baseline bum
05-01-2018, 10:53 AM
The National Enquirer became an important and reliable propaganda publication for the winner of the 2016 Presidential Election.
Let that sink in. That's where we are.
Ah yes the magazine claiming Ted Cruz's father was in cahoots with Lee Harvey Oswald to kill Kennedy, which our Dear Leader used against Cruz in the primaries. The Republicans here constantly defending Trump just don't give a fuck about the truth, facts don't matter any more to Republicans.
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https://www.scribd.com/document/377903619/Paul-Manafort-filing
:cry
Pavlov
05-01-2018, 01:22 PM
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https://www.scribd.com/document/377903619/Paul-Manafort-filing
:cryYou're really choosing to die on Manafort Hill?
lol
spurraider21
05-01-2018, 01:24 PM
i'd wait to read the eventual opposition filing, and of course the court's ruling before ejaculating over a defendant's motion :lol
RandomGuy
05-01-2018, 01:34 PM
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lol
The wheels on the bus go 'round...
Trump and company are shook.
RandomGuy
05-01-2018, 01:39 PM
Indisputable facts.
Obama admin got Natalia Veselnitskaya into the US.
Natalia Veselnitskaya worked with Fusion GPS.
DNC/Clinton campaign hired Fusion GPS.
As indisputable as the basement of a pizzeria. :rollin
So what? Connect the dots Wile E.
Chris
05-01-2018, 01:58 PM
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Chris
05-01-2018, 02:00 PM
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Chris
05-01-2018, 03:16 PM
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Pavlov
05-01-2018, 03:21 PM
991397883000782848Nah, she's just wrong.
Nah, she's just wrong.
All her tweets start by "Maybe I'm wrong but" "It may not pan out but.." "Correct me if I'm but but.."
:lol Beanz
Chris
05-01-2018, 03:30 PM
Nah, she's just wrong.
When did they know about wikileaks?
Chris
05-01-2018, 03:31 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcEfmS9VAAEPgqX.jpg:large
djohn2oo8
05-01-2018, 03:54 PM
When did they know about wikileaks?
After Trump did :lol
Pavlov
05-01-2018, 03:59 PM
When did they know about wikileaks?They've known about Wikileaks in general for years. The FBI announced their investigation into the DNC hack in July 2016. The agents were talking about the general threat of the kind of leaks for which Wikileaks is known.
That's why they used the plural "Assanges" -- not because there are multiple Julian clones stinking up closets around the world.
lol Chrissybeanz
djohn2oo8
05-01-2018, 04:15 PM
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My nigga!
djohn2oo8
05-01-2018, 04:18 PM
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lol Trump
My nigga!
uh oh watch out for Pavlov to scold you
RandomGuy
05-01-2018, 04:30 PM
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Mueller's former assistant says grammatical errors prove leaked questions came from Trump
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/muellers-former-assistant-says-grammatical-errors-prove-leaked-questions-came-from-trump
Given how leak-proof Mueller's investigation is, it did seem to me to be odd that it might come from Mueller.
Given what Trump and company said right after the article, it makes even more sense that this was a strategic leak from Team Trump.
djohn2oo8
05-01-2018, 04:36 PM
Mueller's former assistant says grammatical errors prove leaked questions came from Trump
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/muellers-former-assistant-says-grammatical-errors-prove-leaked-questions-came-from-trump
Given how leak-proof Mueller's investigation is, it did seem to me to be odd that it might come from Mueller.
Given what Trump and company said right after the article, it makes even more sense that this was a strategic leak from Team Trump.
And completely moronic on their part.
Pavlov
05-01-2018, 04:44 PM
Mueller's former assistant says grammatical errors prove leaked questions came from Trump
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/muellers-former-assistant-says-grammatical-errors-prove-leaked-questions-came-from-trump
Given how leak-proof Mueller's investigation is, it did seem to me to be odd that it might come from Mueller.
Given what Trump and company said right after the article, it makes even more sense that this was a strategic leak from Team Trump.
And completely moronic on their part.https://i.imgur.com/rxvzo3d.gif
boutons_deux
05-01-2018, 04:46 PM
And completely moronic on their part.
... but completely consistent with all of the 3rd rate moronic bullshit.
https://i.imgur.com/rxvzo3d.gif
That black woman in the back its like yep, white people, folks. :lol
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Pavlov
05-01-2018, 05:44 PM
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991427020348309504lol the only thing that shows is that Flynn is still fully cooperating with the Special Counsel.
Chris
05-01-2018, 05:47 PM
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Poor fella :lol
Chris
05-01-2018, 05:48 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcJT0q3WkAAcBVe.jpg:large
Pavlov
05-01-2018, 05:56 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcJT0q3WkAAcBVe.jpg:largelol no one wants to put his name to the articles.
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Or you know, Flynn is still not ready to get sentenced because he still spilling his guts to Mueller. :lol
spurraider21
05-01-2018, 06:03 PM
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are you really rehashing this shit yet again? :lol...
The delay could suggest Flynn is continuing to provide information. Such a delay in sentencing, according to a former high-ranking Justice Department official, is common in federal investigations.
“This is very, very common for a cooperating defendant,” the former official, James Trusty who served under both the Bush and Obama administrations, told Fox News. “They don’t want to tell the judge to sentence Flynn until they can tell the judge that he helped in the case.”
Trusty said that if Flynn were ever asked to testify in a trial, he would be “a better witness” if still facing the prospect of sentencing.
Flynn could be sentenced to federal prison for up to five years for making false statements to the FBI.
“It’s a routine play that federal sentencing gets put off until you’re done cooperating,” Trusty said, adding that this does not give any insight into the “pace” of Mueller’s probe, but rather the “existence of it.”
“They are basically saying ‘we may use Flynn for more information,’ but who knows where they think he fits in the grand scheme of the investigation,” Trusty said. “They obviously think he still has some potential, affirmative work to do.”
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/01/mueller-team-seeks-delay-in-flynn-sentencing.html
Pavlov
05-01-2018, 06:06 PM
are you really rehashing this shit yet again? :lol...
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/01/mueller-team-seeks-delay-in-flynn-sentencing.htmlBUT NOW HE'S HELPING TO GET COMEY AND OTHER BAD PEOPLE BLOG TOLD ME TO HATE
spurraider21
05-01-2018, 06:10 PM
next TSA will rehash that back in december judge sullivan entered his standing order to hand over exculpatory evidence
Pavlov
05-01-2018, 06:13 PM
next TSA will rehash that back in december judge sullivan entered his standing order to hand over exculpatory evidenceFLYNN IS KING SPOOK AND IS SPOOK KINGING ALL OVER THE PLACE. HE KNOWS WHERE THE REAL BASEMENT IS.
are you really rehashing this shit yet again? :lol...
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/01/mueller-team-seeks-delay-in-flynn-sentencing.html
You think Flynn is dragging this out further to reduce his process crime charges? It’s been reported he’s already had to sell his home to cover legal fees why push off sentencing/add more debt for a process crime he’s already plead guilty too?
All signs point to Sullivan having issues with the evidence leading to the plea deal.
next TSA will rehash that back in december judge sullivan entered his standing order to hand over exculpatory evidence
When Sullivan did that had Flynn already plead guilty yes or no?
Pavlov
05-01-2018, 06:18 PM
You think Flynn is dragging this out further to reduce his process crime charges? It’s been reported he’s already had to sell his home to cover legal fees why push off sentencing/add more debt for a process crime he’s already plead guilty too?I think Flynn agreed to the extension because he agreed to cooperate with the Special Counsel as part of his plea agreement when he pleaded guilty to a federal felony.
All signs point to Sullivan having issues with the evidence leading to the plea deal.What signs besides the routine Brady order?
What is your conspiracy theory here?
spurraider21
05-01-2018, 06:20 PM
You think Flynn is dragging this out further to reduce his process crime charges? It’s been reported he’s already had to sell his home to cover legal fees why push off sentencing/add more debt for a process crime he’s already plead guilty too?
his guilty plea is contingent on his cooperation. do you know how plea deals work, TSA?
All signs point to Sullivan having issues with the evidence leading to the plea deal.
there are no signs that point to this
spurraider21
05-01-2018, 06:21 PM
When Sullivan did that had Flynn already plead guilty yes or no?
oh, you really are rehashing this shit :lol
https://www.washingtonpost.com/resizer/2ph0MT-d0ZBDZ7OTYKOIjmCNW3M=/1484x0/arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/ORPJ3VYBRE3EFI7POG3BDPXKZE.jpg
"for many years, the Court has entered a standing order in every criminal case"
"the order is entered regardless of the posture of the case when it is assigned to the court"
Pavlov
05-01-2018, 06:25 PM
When Sullivan did that had Flynn already plead guilty yes or no?Yes.
What is Flynn's advantage in continuing to cooperate in lock step with the Special Counsel if he doesn't think his guilty plea and therefore his plea agreement are valid?
What is your conspiracy theory?
spurraider21
05-01-2018, 06:31 PM
Papadopoulos has had his sentencing postponed time and time again for the same reason, but no conspiracy theories about his exoneration :lol
Yes.
What is Flynn's advantage in continuing to cooperate in lock step with the Special Counsel if he doesn't think his guilty plea and therefore his plea agreement are valid?
What is your conspiracy theory?
Define testimony.
Define “on record”.
Pavlov
05-01-2018, 06:54 PM
Define testimony.
Define “on record”.Hey you dodged the questions.
Flynn is still cooperating fully with the Special Counsel. Blog has not changed that. You can't change that.
What is Flynn's advantage in continuing to cooperate in lock step with the Special Counsel if he doesn't think his guilty plea and therefore his plea agreement are valid?
What is your conspiracy theory?
Hey you dodged the questions.
Flynn is still cooperating fully with the Special Counsel. Blog has not changed that. You can't change that.
What is Flynn's advantage in continuing to cooperate in lock step with the Special Counsel if he doesn't think his guilty plea and therefore his plea agreement are valid?
What is your conspiracy theory?
You dodged defining these days ago ITT. Batter up.
djohn2oo8
05-01-2018, 07:18 PM
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:lmao :lmao
Chris
05-01-2018, 09:26 PM
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boutons_deux
05-02-2018, 10:19 AM
(Manfort's) Ukraine, Seeking U.S. Missiles, Halted Cooperation With Mueller Investigation
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/02/world/europe/ukraine-mueller-manafort-missiles.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
So has Trash extorted Ukraine? if you want MY missiles, quit talking to Mueller
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Not to put too fine a point on it:
On Friday, for example, the New York Times reported that the Russian lawyer who met with Donald Trump, Jr. and other Trump circle figures had closer ties to the Kremlin than she previously let on. According to the Times, “Natalia V. Veselnitskaya, worked hand in glove with Russia’s chief legal office to thwart a Justice Department civil fraud case against a well-connected Russian firm”—a fact that Tablet, for example, reported from readily-available sources last summer.
The Times story reports that Veselnitskaya acknowledged in an interview with NBC News that she is a “source of information for a top Kremlin official”—Russia’s prosecutor general, Yuri Chaika. “I am a lawyer, and I am an informant,” said Veselnitskaya. “Since 2013, I have been actively communicating with the office of the Russian prosecutor general.”
Now watch carefully, in order to understand how the sausage is made and then re-made. The paper writes that Veselnitskaya “appears to have recanted her earlier denials of Russian government ties”—yet she’s been saying for more than a year that she was hooked into high-level Kremlin officials. In fact, she was quoted in a Nov. 10, 2017 article saying virtually the same thing to another NBC News reporter, regarding the same fraud case: “I was in effect, the primary source of this information for the Russian Prosecutor General’s office.”
So why is the New York Times reporting the latest NBC News interview as breaking news? To understand the point of the Times story, you have to know what’s still missing. As history is selectively rewritten to remove the most obvious departures from verifiable reality, without acknowledging the scale of prior mistakes and untruths, the news product resembles the products of a state-controlled press, in which maintaining the credibility of the governing elite requires pulling the wool over the eyes of readers, who are expected to actively and passively cooperate in being fooled.
Here’s the story in full:
A British music publicist arranged Veselnitskaya’s June 9, 2016 meeting with Donald Trump Jr. at the Trump Tower by promising dirt on Clinton. “If it’s what you say, I love it,” the president’s eldest son replied by email.
But Veselnitskaya had nothing on Clinton. She wanted to discuss the U.S. law imposing sanctions on Russian government officials and other figures close to Russian president Vladimir Putin who are implicated in the detention and death of Sergei Magnitsky. He was a Russian tax accountant hired in 2007 by the Chicago-born financier William Browder to investigate the misappropriation of $230 million in taxes that Browder’s firm had paid to the Russian government. Magnitsky was arrested in 2008 and was found dead a year later in a Moscow jail cell. The Magnitsky Act is the sanctions legislation that Browder spearheaded to punish those involved, and fire a shot across Putin’s bow.
In turn, Veselnitskaya was hired to represent a firm owned by Kremlin associates charged by the Justice Department with laundering some of the profits from the tax fraud that Magnitsky was investigating on behalf of Browder when he was arrested. Since the fraud case and the Magnitsky Act touch on Russian national interests, as well as Putin’s personal interests, it’s only natural the lawyer handling the case would be in close touch with the Kremlin’s top lawyer.
Yet the Times piece from last week barely touched on Magnitsky. His case, the story explains, “became a cause célèbre in Washington,”—in fact it gave rise to American legislation. The Times article didn’t mention Browder at all. Why? Because that would’ve widened the lens of a story that is tasked to show the Trump team’s ties to Kremlin affiliates, and raised some uncomfortable questions that undermine the governing narrative, which is that Trump colluded with Russia in order to steal the Presidency from Hillary Clinton.
More detail in the Times story would show that one of Veselnitskaya’s partners in the anti-Magnitsky campaign was Fusion GPS. Glenn Simpson’s opposition research shop had been brought on to run a smear campaign against Browder in the press. The talking points on Magnitsky and Browder that Veselnitskaya recited in the Trump Tower meeting, talking points that she previously shared with Russia’s prosecutor general, were quite literally written by Fusion GPS.
But wait. Fusion GPS—that’s the same firm that was hired by the Clinton campaign and the DNC to produce the Steele dossier. So Fusion GPS disseminated reports of the Trump team’s ties to Russia in order to warn America of a possible criminal conspiracy that would sell out U.S. interests in exchange for help securing the presidency—while it also worked on a campaign defending Kremlin interests by undermining an American law. How, you ask, is that possible? And why didn’t the Times report that salient fact?
Because the Times was in bed with Fusion GPS too. William Browder told me that when he was trying to get various journalists to report on Fusion GPS’ role in the campaign against him and the Magnitsky Act, he found that the company’s founder Glenn Simpson “was so deeply embedded as a source for different stories, no one wanted to write a story about him.”
In Simpson’s Aug. 22, 2017 testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee he was asked about the veracity of the Steele dossier. In his answer, Simpson notes that one of the “key lines” in the Steele dossier states that Trump “and his inner circle have accepted a regular flow of intelligence from the Kremlin, including on his democratic and other political rivals.” In retrospect, says Simpson, “we now know this was pretty right on target in terms on what it says… [the dossier] depicts them as accepting information. What we have seen to date with the disclosures this year is they were at a minimum super interested in getting information.”
A congressional aide asked Simpson to specify what he meant by “disclosures this year.” Simpson replied: “The Trump Tower meeting.”
So, according to Simpson, the Trump Tower meeting proved the part of the Steele dossier that claimed the Trump team was taking the Kremlin’s dirt is true—meaning that Simpson is virtually admitting that the meeting between Trump Jr. and Veselnitskaya, his business partner, was a set up. The dossier memo that claims the Trump team wanted dirt on Clinton is dated June 20, a week and a half after the June 9 meeting—at which that dirt was offered, and which was arranged to help establish the collusion thesis. In Simpson’s Aug. 22, 2017 testimony, the phrase “disclosures this year” refers to a New York Times article published a little more than a month previously, July 8, reporting that the president’s eldest son met the previous year with a Russian lawyer, who, according to the Times, “has connections to the Kremlin.” Who, you might ask, gave that story to the Times?
Even the Times’ original story on the Veselnitskaya meeting emphasized her links to the Kremlin. That’s the point of the set-up, to underscore her relationship with Russian officials in order to substantiate the Trump-Russia collusion narrative. Yet now, that information, which the paper itself reported, has been retroactively imagined away. The purpose of the recent Times story—asserting no one really knew before now of her deep Kremlin links—is to cover the paper’s own role in the operation, while perpetuating the Trump-Russia narrative.
While it is difficult even for partisans to retail the literal version of the collusion thesis with a straight face, some version of that narrative, however qualified, or figurative, has to be true—or else the Times, like the Post, CNN, NBC, and countless other media organizations have printed thousands of stories and editorials whose underlying premise is simply false, sending the reputations of dozens of reporters and opinionators up in smoke, Pulitzer Prizes and all.
It’s hard to imagine anything worse for a democracy than journalists coordinating with political operatives and spies who are paid by the press to leak information about American citizens. But that’s where we are. We have hit rock-bottom.
http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/261158/trump-russia-collusion
boutons_deux
05-02-2018, 10:22 AM
Michael Caputo slams Senate intel panel in interview
Former Donald Trump campaign aide Michael Caputo slammed the Senate Intelligence Committee's Russia investigation on Tuesday,
charging that the probe has cost him $125,000 and
is forcing him to move from the Buffalo area in order to pay off legal bills.
"Your investigation and others into the allegations of Trump campaign collusion with Russia are costing my family a great deal of money -- more than $125,000 -- and making a visceral impact on my children," Caputo said
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/01/politics/michael-caputo-senate-interview/index.html
No, Caputo has Trash to thank for implicating, poisoning everyone and everything around him.
spurraider21
05-02-2018, 10:23 AM
:lol strategic genius
:lol every little thing is 5D chess per par
boutons_deux
05-02-2018, 10:41 AM
Russian trolls' post-election task: Disrupt Florida and other U.S. energy pipelines
WASHINGTON A television crew from Russia’s largest state-backed network swooped into downtown Miami two days before New Year’s Eve, 2016, on a curious mission.
RT, the network formerly known as Russia Today, was there to provide global news coverage of one of five unremarkable rallies across Florida that day aimed at turning the public against the nearly completed, $3 billion Sabal Trail Pipeline designed to carry natural gas to the state from Alabama.
What the demonstrators didn’t know was that so-called Russian internet trolls had been busy for two weeks encouraging people to turn out for the protests with posts on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram.
They used phony, American-sounding identities -- names such as Steven Cook and Amalie Baldwin.
Russia’s hidden hand in the Florida pipeline protests was extensive, according to sources familiar with the operations.
At least eight Russian accounts, most tied to the troll farm known as the Internet Research Agency, sent at least 16 social media messages excoriating the Sabal Trail pipeline or retweeting messages from one of its most prominent opponents, a frequent guest on RT.
The tweets were sent to a total of more than 40,000 followers as well as anyone else who saw them via hashtags.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article210152439.html#cardLink=tallRow1_card1
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:lol Det dossier just gets more and more verified.
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:lol djohn and Pavlov continuing to shill for Fusion GPS
On Friday, for example, the New York Times reported that the Russian lawyer who met with Donald Trump, Jr. and other Trump circle figures had closer ties to the Kremlin than she previously let on. According to the Times, “Natalia V. Veselnitskaya, worked hand in glove with Russia’s chief legal office to thwart a Justice Department civil fraud case against a well-connected Russian firm”—a fact that Tablet, for example, reported from readily-available sources last summer.
The Times story reports that Veselnitskaya acknowledged in an interview with NBC News that she is a “source of information for a top Kremlin official”—Russia’s prosecutor general, Yuri Chaika. “I am a lawyer, and I am an informant,” said Veselnitskaya. “Since 2013, I have been actively communicating with the office of the Russian prosecutor general.”
Now watch carefully, in order to understand how the sausage is made and then re-made. The paper writes that Veselnitskaya “appears to have recanted her earlier denials of Russian government ties”—yet she’s been saying for more than a year that she was hooked into high-level Kremlin officials. In fact, she was quoted in a Nov. 10, 2017 article saying virtually the same thing to another NBC News reporter, regarding the same fraud case: “I was in effect, the primary source of this information for the Russian Prosecutor General’s office.”
So why is the New York Times reporting the latest NBC News interview as breaking news? To understand the point of the Times story, you have to know what’s still missing. As history is selectively rewritten to remove the most obvious departures from verifiable reality, without acknowledging the scale of prior mistakes and untruths, the news product resembles the products of a state-controlled press, in which maintaining the credibility of the governing elite requires pulling the wool over the eyes of readers, who are expected to actively and passively cooperate in being fooled.
Here’s the story in full:
A British music publicist arranged Veselnitskaya’s June 9, 2016 meeting with Donald Trump Jr. at the Trump Tower by promising dirt on Clinton. “If it’s what you say, I love it,” the president’s eldest son replied by email.
But Veselnitskaya had nothing on Clinton. She wanted to discuss the U.S. law imposing sanctions on Russian government officials and other figures close to Russian president Vladimir Putin who are implicated in the detention and death of Sergei Magnitsky. He was a Russian tax accountant hired in 2007 by the Chicago-born financier William Browder to investigate the misappropriation of $230 million in taxes that Browder’s firm had paid to the Russian government. Magnitsky was arrested in 2008 and was found dead a year later in a Moscow jail cell. The Magnitsky Act is the sanctions legislation that Browder spearheaded to punish those involved, and fire a shot across Putin’s bow.
In turn, Veselnitskaya was hired to represent a firm owned by Kremlin associates charged by the Justice Department with laundering some of the profits from the tax fraud that Magnitsky was investigating on behalf of Browder when he was arrested. Since the fraud case and the Magnitsky Act touch on Russian national interests, as well as Putin’s personal interests, it’s only natural the lawyer handling the case would be in close touch with the Kremlin’s top lawyer.
Yet the Times piece from last week barely touched on Magnitsky. His case, the story explains, “became a cause célèbre in Washington,”—in fact it gave rise to American legislation. The Times article didn’t mention Browder at all. Why? Because that would’ve widened the lens of a story that is tasked to show the Trump team’s ties to Kremlin affiliates, and raised some uncomfortable questions that undermine the governing narrative, which is that Trump colluded with Russia in order to steal the Presidency from Hillary Clinton.
More detail in the Times story would show that one of Veselnitskaya’s partners in the anti-Magnitsky campaign was Fusion GPS. Glenn Simpson’s opposition research shop had been brought on to run a smear campaign against Browder in the press. The talking points on Magnitsky and Browder that Veselnitskaya recited in the Trump Tower meeting, talking points that she previously shared with Russia’s prosecutor general, were quite literally written by Fusion GPS.
But wait. Fusion GPS—that’s the same firm that was hired by the Clinton campaign and the DNC to produce the Steele dossier. So Fusion GPS disseminated reports of the Trump team’s ties to Russia in order to warn America of a possible criminal conspiracy that would sell out U.S. interests in exchange for help securing the presidency—while it also worked on a campaign defending Kremlin interests by undermining an American law. How, you ask, is that possible? And why didn’t the Times report that salient fact?
Because the Times was in bed with Fusion GPS too. William Browder told me that when he was trying to get various journalists to report on Fusion GPS’ role in the campaign against him and the Magnitsky Act, he found that the company’s founder Glenn Simpson “was so deeply embedded as a source for different stories, no one wanted to write a story about him.”
In Simpson’s Aug. 22, 2017 testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee he was asked about the veracity of the Steele dossier. In his answer, Simpson notes that one of the “key lines” in the Steele dossier states that Trump “and his inner circle have accepted a regular flow of intelligence from the Kremlin, including on his democratic and other political rivals.” In retrospect, says Simpson, “we now know this was pretty right on target in terms on what it says… [the dossier] depicts them as accepting information. What we have seen to date with the disclosures this year is they were at a minimum super interested in getting information.”
A congressional aide asked Simpson to specify what he meant by “disclosures this year.” Simpson replied: “The Trump Tower meeting.”
So, according to Simpson, the Trump Tower meeting proved the part of the Steele dossier that claimed the Trump team was taking the Kremlin’s dirt is true—meaning that Simpson is virtually admitting that the meeting between Trump Jr. and Veselnitskaya, his business partner, was a set up. The dossier memo that claims the Trump team wanted dirt on Clinton is dated June 20, a week and a half after the June 9 meeting—at which that dirt was offered, and which was arranged to help establish the collusion thesis. In Simpson’s Aug. 22, 2017 testimony, the phrase “disclosures this year” refers to a New York Times article published a little more than a month previously, July 8, reporting that the president’s eldest son met the previous year with a Russian lawyer, who, according to the Times, “has connections to the Kremlin.” Who, you might ask, gave that story to the Times?
Even the Times’ original story on the Veselnitskaya meeting emphasized her links to the Kremlin. That’s the point of the set-up, to underscore her relationship with Russian officials in order to substantiate the Trump-Russia collusion narrative. Yet now, that information, which the paper itself reported, has been retroactively imagined away. The purpose of the recent Times story—asserting no one really knew before now of her deep Kremlin links—is to cover the paper’s own role in the operation, while perpetuating the Trump-Russia narrative.
While it is difficult even for partisans to retail the literal version of the collusion thesis with a straight face, some version of that narrative, however qualified, or figurative, has to be true—or else the Times, like the Post, CNN, NBC, and countless other media organizations have printed thousands of stories and editorials whose underlying premise is simply false, sending the reputations of dozens of reporters and opinionators up in smoke, Pulitzer Prizes and all.
It’s hard to imagine anything worse for a democracy than journalists coordinating with political operatives and spies who are paid by the press to leak information about American citizens. But that’s where we are. We have hit rock-bottom.
http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/261158/trump-russia-collusion
991515185956372484
boutons_deux
05-02-2018, 12:43 PM
991502934738382848
:lol djohn and Pavlov continuing to shill for Fusion GPS
what's the problem with the GPS? as if Repugs don't do nastiest, deepest oppo research, or Swift Boat opponents.
Pavlov
05-02-2018, 12:50 PM
You dodged defining these days ago ITT. Batter up.I will accept any definition you dream up for them. You go ahead and post the definition blog told you. None would change the fact that Flynn is fully cooperating with the Special Counsel.
What is Flynn's advantage in continuing to cooperate in lock step with the Special Counsel if he doesn't think his guilty plea and therefore his plea agreement are valid?
What is your conspiracy theory?
Pavlov
05-02-2018, 12:54 PM
991502934738382848
:lol djohn and Pavlov continuing to shill for Fusion GPSlol Caputo
It's a good thing someone is working on the dossier. Why did the House just stop?
RandomGuy
05-02-2018, 12:55 PM
17. Remember, when it comes to Trump, we are dealing with a strategic genius. Sun Tzu greatest ever student.
:rollin
Pavlov
05-02-2018, 12:55 PM
991515185956372484What's your conspiracy theory, TSA?
You'll never say.
You never get past innuendo.
It's all you ever have.
djohn2oo8
05-02-2018, 01:11 PM
991717740837855237
:lmao
I will accept any definition you dream up for them. You go ahead and post the definition blog told you. None would change the fact that Flynn is fully cooperating with the Special Counsel.
What is Flynn's advantage in continuing to cooperate in lock step with the Special Counsel if he doesn't think his guilty plea and therefore his plea agreement are valid?
What is your conspiracy theory?
Still avoiding defining. You're up.
lol Caputo
It's a good thing someone is working on the dossier. Why did the House just stop?
Has anyone confirmed the McClatchy report you claimed was verified? When you claimed it was verified did you realize you were shilling for Fusion GPS?
djohn2oo8
05-02-2018, 01:14 PM
:rollin hiring a Clinton lawyer
What's your conspiracy theory, TSA?
You'll never say.
You never get past innuendo.
It's all you ever have.
The meeting in Trump Tower with Don Jr was a setup by Fusion GPS funded by the Clinton campaign/DNC.
Pavlov
05-02-2018, 01:16 PM
Still avoiding defining. You're up.I don't need to. Apparently your conspiracy theory depends on it -- so I will let you define it any way you want to and accept it without reservation.
You're up.
Pavlov
05-02-2018, 01:17 PM
The meeting in Trump Tower with Don Jr was a setup by Fusion GPS funded by the Clinton campaign/DNC.That's innuendo.
What is your conspiracy theory, TSA?
Walk me through it. The planning and direct funding of the setup.
spurraider21
05-02-2018, 01:21 PM
Still avoiding defining. You're up.
aren't we still waiting on you to walk us through the standards of having a fisa warrant renewed?
That's innuendo.
What is your conspiracy theory, TSA?
Walk me through it. The planning and direct funding of the setup.
lol walk into the weeds with me
aren't we still waiting on you to walk us through the standards of having a fisa warrant renewed?
aren't we still waiting on Horowitz to finish investigating all aspects of potential FISA abuse?
Pavlov
05-02-2018, 01:23 PM
aren't we still waiting on you to walk us through the standards of having a fisa warrant renewed?Oh the list of questions TSA has dodged is quite long. Blog has left many holes in his understanding of things.
lol Caputo
It's a good thing someone is working on the dossier. Why did the House just stop?
Has anyone confirmed the McClatchy report you claimed was verified? When you claimed it was verified did you realize you were shilling for Fusion GPS?
spurraider21
05-02-2018, 01:24 PM
aren't we still waiting on Horowitz to finish investigating all aspects of potential FISA abuse?
we dont need horowitz to finish his investigation for you to tell us about the process of having a fisa warrant renewed. horowitz may or may not find abuse.
in the meantime, can you tell us the standard for a renewal of a fisa warrant? you're a few months behind on that one
Pavlov
05-02-2018, 01:24 PM
aren't we still waiting on Horowitz to finish investigating all aspects of potential FISA abuse?One doesn't have to wait for that to answer a question about how all FISA warrants get renewed in general.
Don't be so disingenuous -- just say you're dodging the question because it would look bad for you to answer and blog hasn't told you a way to spin it yet.
Pavlov
05-02-2018, 01:26 PM
Has anyone confirmed the McClatchy report you claimed was verified? When you claimed it was verified did you realize you were shilling for Fusion GPS?
Well the house is done investigating so I guess it's all over right?
No one else is looking into it.
lol
we dont need horowitz to finish his investigation for you to tell us about the process of having a fisa warrant renewed. horowitz may or may not find abuse.
in the meantime, can you tell us the standard for a renewal of a fisa warrant? you're a few months behind on that one
If I'm a few months behind obviously I didn't give a shit about it then, what makes you think I do now?
Well the house is done investigating so I guess it's all over right?
No one else is looking into it.
lol
Has anyone confirmed the McClatchy report you claimed was verified? When you claimed it was verified did you realize you were shilling for Fusion GPS?
Pavlov
05-02-2018, 01:28 PM
lol walk into the weeds with meNo, I'm asking you to tell me how Fusion GPS hired its own Russian lawyer client to work for the Clinton campaign.
If there are weeds, they're your own.
Just say you don't actually have anything other than innuendo. It's OK. We all know it.
Pavlov
05-02-2018, 01:30 PM
Has anyone confirmed the McClatchy report you claimed was verified? When you claimed it was verified did you realize you were shilling for Fusion GPS?I said it was getting more anf more verified.
lol shilling
If it turns out to be all wrong, I'm completely fine with that. I've been wrong before.
As have you. You don't deal with being wrong very well. Lord knows you've had a lot of practice.
spurraider21
05-02-2018, 01:31 PM
If I'm a few months behind obviously I didn't give a shit about it then, what makes you think I do now?
TSA doesn't give a shit about the process to renew a FISA warrant despite thinking the IG repot about FISA abuse is super duper important.
strange
Pavlov
05-02-2018, 01:32 PM
TSA doesn't give a shit about the process to renew a FISA warrant despite thinking the IG repot about FISA abuse is super duper important.
strangeONLY HOROWITZ KNOWS HOW FISA WARRANTS ARE RENEWED NO ONE ELSE
I said it was getting more anf more verified.
lol shilling
If it turns out to be all wrong, I'm completely fine with that. I've been wrong before.
As have you. You don't deal with being wrong very well. Lord knows you've had a lot of practice.
How does something get more verified and more verified by unconfirmed reports sourced by Fusion GPS? Has anyone else confirmed the McClatchy report yes or no?
No, I'm asking you to tell me how Fusion GPS hired its own Russian lawyer client to work for the Clinton campaign.
If there are weeds, they're your own.
Just say you don't actually have anything other than innuendo. It's OK. We all know it.
In Simpson’s Aug. 22, 2017 testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee he was asked about the veracity of the Steele dossier. In his answer, Simpson notes that one of the “key lines” in the Steele dossier states that Trump “and his inner circle have accepted a regular flow of intelligence from the Kremlin, including on his democratic and other political rivals.” In retrospect, says Simpson, “we now know this was pretty right on target in terms on what it says… [the dossier] depicts them as accepting information. What we have seen to date with the disclosures this year is they were at a minimum super interested in getting information.”
A congressional aide asked Simpson to specify what he meant by “disclosures this year.” Simpson replied: “The Trump Tower meeting.”
So, according to Simpson, the Trump Tower meeting proved the part of the Steele dossier that claimed the Trump team was taking the Kremlin’s dirt is true—meaning that Simpson is virtually admitting that the meeting between Trump Jr. and Veselnitskaya, his business partner, was a set up. The dossier memo that claims the Trump team wanted dirt on Clinton is dated June 20, a week and a half after the June 9 meeting—at which that dirt was offered, and which was arranged to help establish the collusion thesis. In Simpson’s Aug. 22, 2017 testimony, the phrase “disclosures this year” refers to a New York Times article published a little more than a month previously, July 8, reporting that the president’s eldest son met the previous year with a Russian lawyer, who, according to the Times, “has connections to the Kremlin.” Who, you might ask, gave that story to the Times?
Even the Times’ original story on the Veselnitskaya meeting emphasized her links to the Kremlin. That’s the point of the set-up, to underscore her relationship with Russian officials in order to substantiate the Trump-Russia collusion narrative. Yet now, that information, which the paper itself reported, has been retroactively imagined away. The purpose of the recent Times story—asserting no one really knew before now of her deep Kremlin links—is to cover the paper’s own role in the operation, while perpetuating the Trump-Russia narrative.
spurraider21
05-02-2018, 01:37 PM
tabletmag.com/jewish-news :lol
Pavlov
05-02-2018, 01:43 PM
How does something get more verified and more verified by unconfirmed reports sourced by Fusion GPS? Has anyone else confirmed the McClatchy report yes or no?Nope.
I'm fine with what I said. You aren't. It's OK.
In Simpson’s Aug. 22, 2017 testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee he was asked about the veracity of the Steele dossier. In his answer, Simpson notes that one of the “key lines” in the Steele dossier states that Trump “and his inner circle have accepted a regular flow of intelligence from the Kremlin, including on his democratic and other political rivals.” In retrospect, says Simpson, “we now know this was pretty right on target in terms on what it says… [the dossier] depicts them as accepting information. What we have seen to date with the disclosures this year is they were at a minimum super interested in getting information.”
A congressional aide asked Simpson to specify what he meant by “disclosures this year.” Simpson replied: “The Trump Tower meeting.”
So, according to Simpson, the Trump Tower meeting proved the part of the Steele dossier that claimed the Trump team was taking the Kremlin’s dirt is true—meaning that Simpson is virtually admitting that the meeting between Trump Jr. and Veselnitskaya, his business partner, was a set up. The dossier memo that claims the Trump team wanted dirt on Clinton is dated June 20, a week and a half after the June 9 meeting—at which that dirt was offered, and which was arranged to help establish the collusion thesis. In Simpson’s Aug. 22, 2017 testimony, the phrase “disclosures this year” refers to a New York Times article published a little more than a month previously, July 8, reporting that the president’s eldest son met the previous year with a Russian lawyer, who, according to the Times, “has connections to the Kremlin.” Who, you might ask, gave that story to the Times?
Even the Times’ original story on the Veselnitskaya meeting emphasized her links to the Kremlin. That’s the point of the set-up, to underscore her relationship with Russian officials in order to substantiate the Trump-Russia collusion narrative. Yet now, that information, which the paper itself reported, has been retroactively imagined away. The purpose of the recent Times story—asserting no one really knew before now of her deep Kremlin links—is to cover the paper’s own role in the operation, while perpetuating the Trump-Russia narrative.
Yeah, that still doesn't explain how the Clinton's hired the other people who were paying Fusion GPS to work for them through Fusion GPS.
They're your weeds. You have some explaining to do if you want to be believed.
You won't do it.
Nope.
I'm fine with what I said. You aren't. It's OK.
Yeah, that still doesn't explain how the Clinton's hired the other people who were paying Fusion GPS to work for them through Fusion GPS.
They're your weeds. You have some explaining to do if you want to be believed.
You won't do it.
Nope.
I'm fine with what I said. You aren't. It's OK.
Pavlov
05-02-2018, 01:59 PM
Nope.
I'm fine with what I said. You aren't. It's OK.Yes, you are fine with spouting innuendo and cowering from any real explanation. You prove that over and over. It's OK.
Pavlov
05-02-2018, 02:04 PM
The best part of all of this is that TSA believes that baby eating Hillary Clinton is the mastermind controlling all of this dirt collected on Trump; that she colluded with the Russians and broke all manner of laws and made government agents do the same. All to amass this mountain of damaging claims and evidence that she never once used during the campaign.
"She thought she was going to win" incoming.
If she thought she was going to win -- why do all that in the first place?
Makes no sense whatsoever.
spurraider21
05-02-2018, 02:07 PM
The best part of all of this is that TSA believes that baby eating Hillary Clinton is the mastermind controlling all of this dirt collected on Trump; that she colluded with the Russians and broke all manner of laws and made government agents do the same. All to amass this mountain of damaging claims and evidence that she never once used during the campaign.
"She thought she was going to win" incoming.
If she thought she was going to win -- why do all that in the first place?
Makes no sense whatsoever.
makes even less sense for all this stuff to only come out after the election :lol
Pavlov
05-02-2018, 02:13 PM
makes even less sense for all this stuff to only come out after the election :lolIt's the very fact that the information was so potentially explosive that it never made it to the actual campaign. You only have to take a look at TSA's lack of any coherent conspiracy theory and the wall-of-text/tweets pseudo-intellectual 5-D chess triple Lindys the right wingers have to do to come close to explaining almost anything that is going on in this investigation.
The best part of all of this is that TSA believes that baby eating Hillary Clinton is the mastermind controlling all of this dirt collected on Trump; that she colluded with the Russians and broke all manner of laws and made government agents do the same. All to amass this mountain of damaging claims and evidence that she never once used during the campaign.
"She thought she was going to win" incoming.
If she thought she was going to win -- why do all that in the first place?
Makes no sense whatsoever.
It's almost as if this article was written just for you
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/05/hillary-clinton-presidency-leakers-lawbreakers-rewarded/
spurraider21
05-02-2018, 04:42 PM
It's almost as if this article was written just for you
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/05/hillary-clinton-presidency-leakers-lawbreakers-rewarded/
that didn't answer the question at all tbh
Pavlov
05-02-2018, 04:43 PM
It's almost as if this article was written just for you
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/05/hillary-clinton-presidency-leakers-lawbreakers-rewarded/Yeah, I already said you would try that tired argument.
It doesn't work.
There was no reason to "entrap" Trump as you claim if they thought they were going to win.
That article is another example of the triple Lindys the right has to do to try to explain anything.
If she thought she was going to win -- why do all that in the first place?
I would like your answer TSA. Not blog's.
Yeah, I already said you would try that tired argument.
It doesn't work.
There was no reason to "entrap" Trump as you claim if they thought they were going to win.
That article is another example of the triple Lindys the right has to do to try to explain anything.
If she thought she was going to win -- why do all that in the first place?
I would like your answer TSA. Not blog's.
If he did win they thought they'd be able to use the Russia hoax to bring him down and get him impeached, they are still trying. Unfortunately for them they were sloppy and it's all starting to publicly be exposed.
Pavlov
05-02-2018, 04:56 PM
If he did win they thought they'd be able to use the Russia hoax to bring him down and get him impeached, they are still trying. But not use it to -- you know -- actually be elected.
You were fine with the idea of Clinton's eating babies but using the Trump Tower meeting was way too evil for her.
lol
But not use it to -- you know -- actually be elected.
You were fine with the idea of Clinton's eating babies but using the Trump Tower meeting was way too evil for her.
lol
I don't think the Clinton campaign saying Carter Page went to Moscow would have had any effect on the outcome of the election.
Pavlov
05-02-2018, 05:04 PM
I don't think the Clinton campaign saying Carter Page went to Moscow would have had any effect on the outcome of the election.No, you said Clinton knew everything that was going on. That means the Trump Tower meeting. That means everything in the dossier.
You were fine with the idea of her eating babies but releasing that information in order to be elected was way too evil for her.
lol
No, you said Clinton knew everything that was going on. That means the Trump Tower meeting. That means everything in the dossier.
You were fine with the idea of her eating babies but releasing that information in order to be elected was way too evil for her.
lol
Show me the quote where I said Clinton knew everything that was going on, or just admit you were talking out of your ass and save us both the time.
Pavlov
05-02-2018, 05:09 PM
Show me the quote where I said Clinton knew everything that was going on, or just admit you were talking out of your ass and save us both the time.
Only a person as naive as yourself would believe Hillary had no idea what Fusion GPS and Christopher Steele were doing.
You intimated she knew all about Steele and the Trump Tower meeting. So you're saying Clinton didn't know about the dossier or the Trump Tower meeting?
Make your position perfectly clear, TSA.
You intimated she knew all about Steele and the Trump Tower meeting. So you're saying Clinton didn't know about the dossier or the Trump Tower meeting?
Make your position perfectly clear, TSA.
You found no quote, you were just talking out of your ass. Why do you just make shit up?
Pavlov
05-02-2018, 05:20 PM
You found no quote, you were just talking out of your ass. Why do you just make shit up?
Only a person as naive as yourself would believe Hillary had no idea what Fusion GPS and Christopher Steele were doing.You intimated she knew all about Steele and the Trump Tower meeting. So you're saying Clinton didn't know about the dossier or the Trump Tower meeting?
Make your position perfectly clear, TSA.
Lol at immediately walking back “everything”
Pavlov
05-02-2018, 05:23 PM
Lol at immediately walking back “everything”Pretty much everything damaging that could be released before the election. You intimated she knew all about Steele and the Trump Tower meeting. So you're saying Clinton didn't know about the dossier or the Trump Tower meeting?
Make your position perfectly clear, TSA.
spurraider21
05-02-2018, 05:24 PM
Make your position perfectly clear, TSA.
im not seeing anything from conservativetreehouse answering that question... so i wouldn't hold my breath
Pavlov
05-02-2018, 05:25 PM
im not seeing anything from conservativetreehouse answering that question... so i wouldn't hold my breathYeah, he's already stalling with semantics. Other tactics incoming.
I’m still waiting for you to back your claim with a quote from me saying Clinton knew everything that was going on.
Pavlov
05-02-2018, 05:27 PM
I’m still waiting for you to back your claim with a quote from me saying Clinton knew everything that was going on.lol semantics.
I do hereby amend my initial claim and now only include the damaging information that could be released before the election, specifically the Trump Tower meeting and the Steele dossier. You intimated she knew all about Steele and the Trump Tower meeting. So you're saying Clinton didn't know about the dossier or the Trump Tower meeting?
Make your position perfectly clear, TSA.
RandomGuy
05-02-2018, 05:27 PM
I’m still waiting for you to back your claim with a quote from me saying Clinton knew everything that was going on.
Only a person as naive as yourself would believe Hillary had no idea what Fusion GPS and Christopher Steele were doing.
:rollin
https://i.imgur.com/DUFkZCs.gif
Pavlov
05-02-2018, 05:30 PM
The only question is whether TSA will use the same stalling tactic or try a new one.
RandomGuy
05-02-2018, 05:31 PM
Yeah, he's already stalling with semantics. Other tactics incoming.
Yeah, he is careful in his innuendo. I'm still gonna make fun of him though. "it's a trap"... :rollin
RandomGuy
05-02-2018, 05:31 PM
The only question is whether TSA will use the same stalling tactic or try a new one.
I am guessing the latter. In before he shifts tactics. :D
Pavlov
05-02-2018, 05:32 PM
Yeah, he is careful in his innuendo. I'm still gonna make fun of him though. "it's a trap"... :rollinI think he'll try the same tactic, just amping up the faux indignation.
RandomGuy
05-02-2018, 05:33 PM
968915286840791041
Like clockwork. The trap is set [for Mueller to go after Hillary Clinton, not Trump].
[Mueller subpoenas Trump Organization in Russia investigation]
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ExflZ4qLiKQ/UL45hThBHEI/AAAAAAAAAQA/AgmjP2mic_Q/s1600/tumblr_maesnjJLlV1rztnb3o1_500.gif
:lmao Wile E. TSA soooper genyus.
RandomGuy
05-02-2018, 05:35 PM
I think he'll try the same tactic, just amping up the faux indignation.
Maybe he will claim that the leaked Mueller questions are all about the "trap" too. :rollin
Double down would be a shift in tactic from semantics.
lol semantics.
I do hereby amend my initial claim and now only include the damaging information that could be released before the election, specifically the Trump Tower meeting and the Steele dossier. You intimated she knew all about Steele and the Trump Tower meeting. So you're saying Clinton didn't know about the dossier or the Trump Tower meeting?
Make your position perfectly clear, TSA.
I never implied that and I was perfectly clear you just didn’t like my answer. Hillary could know what Fusion GPS/Steele were doing and at the same time not know the specifics.
Pavlov
05-02-2018, 05:36 PM
Maybe he will claim that the leaked Mueller questions are all about the "trap" too. :rollin
Double down would be a shift in tactic from semantics.One thing's for sure -- he will never, ever make clear what he thinks Clinton knew about the Trump Tower meeting and the Steele dossier before the election.
Pavlov
05-02-2018, 05:37 PM
I never implied that and I was perfectly clear you just didn’t like my answer. Hillary could know what Fusion GPS/Steele were doing and at the same time not know the specifics.So do you think she knew any specifics about the Trump Tower meeting and the Steele dossier or not?
Make your position perfectly clear, TSA.
[Mueller subpoenas Trump Organization in Russia investigation]
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ExflZ4qLiKQ/UL45hThBHEI/AAAAAAAAAQA/AgmjP2mic_Q/s1600/tumblr_maesnjJLlV1rztnb3o1_500.gif
:lmao Wile E. TSA soooper genyus.
:lol how’s your shit theory you’ve spammed for a year working out?
RandomGuy
05-02-2018, 05:40 PM
I never implied that and I was perfectly clear you just didn’t like my answer. Hillary could know what Fusion GPS/Steele were doing and at the same time not know the specifics.
Sure. Here is your butthurt cream.
Now what? You still need to splain why she would not want anything damaging put out as soon as possible, if she was really cognizant of their activities, even dimly.
So do you think she knew any specifics about the Trump Tower meeting and the Steele dossier or not?
Make your position perfectly clear, TSA.
Trump tower meeting specifics, not sure.
Steele dossier specifics, sure. Which specifics? Not sure.
Sure. Here is your butthurt cream.
Now what? You still need to splain why she would not want anything damaging put out as soon as possible, if she was really cognizant of their activities, even dimly.
None of it could be verified and her campaign was in the middle of hiding payments for it.
RandomGuy
05-02-2018, 05:44 PM
:lol how’s your shit theory you’ve spammed for a year working out?
It was not the first time Mr. Trump has yelled at the television over something he saw Ms. Haley saying. This time, however, the divergence has spilled into public in a remarkable display of discord that stems not just from competing views of Russia but from larger questions of political ambition, jealousy, resentment and loyalty. The rift erupted into open conflict on Tuesday when a White House official blamed Ms. Haley’s statement about sanctions on “momentary confusion.” That prompted her to fire back, saying that she did not “get confused.” The public disagreement embarrassed Ms. Haley and reinforced questions about Mr. Trump’s foreign policy — and who speaks for his administration.
The Syria strike proved to be a no impact failure, with the Russians fully aiding their allies. Acceptable optics from the Russian point of view.
That Haley was so clearly overruled, directly, by Trump himself, is fully consistent with the theory.
The theory holds up remarkably well.
At this point, especially after having seen Trump talking about the pee pee tape, I am convinced that they have that and evidence of money laundering.
I don't think the pee pee stuff affects his action, so much as the financial stuff.
RandomGuy
05-02-2018, 05:45 PM
None of it could be verified and her campaign was in the middle of hiding payments for it.
So you are saying dirty Hillary would not have used surrogates to leak damaging innuendo?
What would have stopped that, Wile. E.?
Chris
05-02-2018, 05:45 PM
Trump and Sessions truly are playing 4D chess. Releasing fake news to not only expose the leakers, but to keep the bad actors in deep state on their heels. This is the Art of War.
spurraider21
05-02-2018, 05:47 PM
Trump and Sessions truly are playing 4D chess. Releasing fake news to not only expose the leakers, but to keep the bad actors in deep state on their heels. This is the Art of War.
oh, are you officially done with this one?
https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/wake-up-watchdog-hillary-clinton-bribes-1024x760.jpg
Pavlov
05-02-2018, 05:48 PM
Trump tower meeting specifics, not sure.
Steele dossier specifics, sure. Which specifics? Not sure.Well this is a yuge walkback for you.
Let me know when blog tells you to change your mind.
OK, so now your claim is that Clinton knew all about Fusion GPS and that they were working multiple angles on Russia; that Fusion GPS worked with Russians to entrap Trump's own family and campaign manager in June; that Steele was hired to get Russian dirt on Trump also in June and her knowledge of anything after that wasn't anything she could use against Trump in her campaign all the way up until November.
Too busy eating babies to get a status update in five (5) months.
Pavlov
05-02-2018, 05:49 PM
None of it could be verified and her campaign was in the middle of hiding payments for it.Oh, so it was an ethical dilemma for the child sex trafficking party.
Chris
05-02-2018, 05:54 PM
oh, are you officially done with this one?
https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/wake-up-watchdog-hillary-clinton-bribes-1024x760.jpg
I never turned on Sessions.
RandomGuy
05-02-2018, 05:55 PM
Oh, so it was an ethical dilemma for the child sex trafficking party.
(guffaw)
Well played.
Well this is a yuge walkback for you.
Let me know when blog tells you to change your mind.
OK, so now your claim is that Clinton knew all about Fusion GPS and that they were working multiple angles on Russia; that Fusion GPS worked with Russians to entrap Trump's own family and campaign manager in June; that Steele was hired to get Russian dirt on Trump also in June and her knowledge of anything after that wasn't anything she could use against Trump in her campaign all the way up until November.
Too busy eating babies to get a status update in five (5) months.
I simply said Hillary knew what Fusion GPS/Steele were doing, getting dirt. You then try and put words in my mouth and demand explanations for things I never claimed. It’s your schtick.
Pavlov
05-02-2018, 06:01 PM
I simply said Hillary knew what Fusion GPS/Steele were doing, getting dirt. You then try and put words in my mouth and demand explanations for things I never claimed. It’s your schtick.I actually asked you to make your position perfectly clear.
Your response: :(not sure:(
Innuendo is your shtick. You got called on it again.
I actually asked you to make your position perfectly clear.
Your response: :(not sure:(
Innuendo is your shtick. You got called on it again.
You actually asked me questions only Hillary knows the answer to and then demanded I answer. It’s your schtick. You got called on it.
Pavlov
05-02-2018, 06:31 PM
You actually asked me questions only Hillary knows the answer to and then demanded I answer. It’s your schtick. You got called on it.Actually you already said what you think Hillary knew when it supported your innuendo then walked back when asked anything beyond your innuendo. It's your shtick.
You declared she specifically knew about Fusion GPS and Steele's efforts with Russia -- meaning you gave a definitive answer for something only Hillary would know, but now you say you can't be sure she ever got a status update from either in five months, because somehow she wouldn't want to know about the people you declared she knew her campaign hired.
Pretty stupid tbh.
djohn2oo8
05-02-2018, 06:35 PM
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:lmao :lmao :lmao Trump
djohn2oo8
05-02-2018, 06:36 PM
991817440857346048
Lordy!
Chris
05-02-2018, 06:37 PM
Ca-puto :lol
boutons_deux
05-02-2018, 06:47 PM
while State AG Schneiderman screws with state felonies, which can't be pardoned by Pence after Trash is convicted.
djohn2oo8
05-02-2018, 06:50 PM
while State AG Schneiderman screws with state felonies, which can't be pardoned by Pence after Trash is convicted.
Yeah Pence will have nothing to do with the Presidency.
Actually you already said what you think Hillary knew when it supported your innuendo then walked back when asked anything beyond your innuendo. It's your shtick.
You declared she specifically knew about Fusion GPS and Steele's efforts with Russia -- meaning you gave a definitive answer for something only Hillary would know, but now you say you can't be sure she ever got a status update from either in five months, because somehow she wouldn't want to know about the people you declared she knew her campaign hired.
Pretty stupid tbh.
What’s pretty stupid is we are right back to where we started the first time you attempted this.
Do you think Mook/Podesta/Elias kept Hillary in the dark concerning what Fusion GPS was doing? Yes or no.
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