Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

[Pavlov]

993166666237448198
Gotta wonder whose side TSA is on on this one:lol Nunes.

He never even reads the documents he demands.

[boutons_deux]

Giuliani says Trump doesn’t have to comply with a Mueller subpoena and could invoke the Fifth Amendment

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/05/06/giuliani-says-trump-doesnt-have-to-comply-with-a-mueller-subpoena-and-could-invoke-the-fifth-amendment/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.9efc9d0997b1&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

SCOTUS ruled the Slick Willy had to appear before Grand Jury, but Julie Annie says Trash won't?

[djohn2oo8]

Giuliani says Trump doesn’t have to comply with a Mueller subpoena and could invoke the Fifth Amendment

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/05/06/giuliani-says-trump-doesnt-have-to-comply-with-a-mueller-subpoena-and-could-invoke-the-fifth-amendment/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.9efc9d0997b1&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

SCOTUS ruled the Slick Willy had to appear before Grand Jury, but Julie Annie says Trash won't?

Rudy is senile. And is unaware of what he is talking about.

[djohn2oo8]

Never forget Chris rooting on Russia

[AaronY]

993121966021324800
why do innocent people need to plead the 5th?
https://mobile.twitter.com/notwokieleaks/status/989594480763392011

https://mobile.twitter.com/notwokieleaks/status/989584451075297280

[djohn2oo8]

https://mobile.twitter.com/notwokieleaks/status/989594480763392011

https://mobile.twitter.com/notwokieleaks/status/989584451075297280

lol talking shit and can't fucking embed a tweet.

[djohn2oo8]

But yeah in response to lil aaron

989275369843937281

[AaronY]

lol talking shit and can't fucking embed a tweet.
Of course i can i do it all the time.

I wanted you to read the whole thread of tweets so you could learn.

[AaronY]

It has nothing to do with your trump impeachment wet dreams..pleading the fifth as a sign of guilt is retarded as anyone who is wary of the massive power of government should probably do so anytime they are investigated. Read those links

[Pavlov]

So don't lie.

How difficult is that?

[AaronY]

So don't lie.

How difficult is that?
Lol not even trying to understand my argument facepalm

[Chris]

993136157578940416

[Pavlov]

Lol not even trying to understand my argument facepalmOK, in your own words, what is your argument?

[Reck]

OK, in your own words, what is your argument?

He uses them all the time but he wants you to understand the argument without him straining himself. Read a tweet :tu

[AaronY]

Derp


It has nothing to do with your trump impeachment wet dreams..pleading the fifth as a sign of guilt is retarded as anyone who is wary of the massive power of government should probably do so anytime they are investigated.

[boutons_deux]

The filthy, dirty Trash/Repugs doing oppo research to find dirt on Obama's people

Trump aides hired Israeli private intelligence firm to dig up dirt on Obama officials

Aides to President Trump (http://thehill.com/people/donald-trump) reportedly hired an Israeli private intelligence firm

to dig up compromising information on two of former President Obama's foreign policy officials in an attempt to discredit the Iran nuclear agreement,

The Observer reports that Trump officials contacted the firm and directed it to find compromising personal information on

former deputy national security adviser Ben Rhodes and

Colin Kahl, Vice President Joe Biden (http://thehill.com/people/joe-biden)'s national security adviser.

The intent allegedly was to find information that could be used by the Trump administration

to discredit the Iran nuclear deal.

Trump faces a May 12 deadline to renew U.S. involvement in the deal.

Investigators looked at Rhodes's and Kahl's personal relationships, any activity with Iran-friendly lobbyists and whether the officials had benefited personally or politically from the deal.

“The idea was that people acting for Trump would

discredit those who were pivotal in selling the deal,

making it easier to pull out of it,"

an unnamed source familiar with the operation told The Observer.

http://thehill.com/policy/international/386393-trump-aides-hired-israeli-private-intelligence-firm-to-dig-up-dirt-on

Of course, the Iran-hating Jews would provide the dirt, filth, slander, lies that Trash/Bolton/Pompeo wants.

Because the FACTS from all directions about the SUCCESS of the Iran deal can't be denied in good faith.

Why not Fusion GPS?

[AaronY]

"Muh Russia" crowd always hilarious..bunch of liberals who are probably arguing law enforcement has too much power 90% of the time and then talking shit when anyone under investigation doesnt want to flush their rights down the toilet because hes their enemy. But hey gots to get da Drumpf!

Can imagine if this was some poor black kid you dorks would be writing poems about how smart it was for him to take the fifth amendment

[Chris]

Useful idiots.

[djohn2oo8]

:lol Nunes.

He never even reads the documents he demands.

Gotta wonder why the midnight uber cowboy is still requesting documents when his investigation is over?

[djohn2oo8]

Useful idiots.

And you are a useless idiot.

[djohn2oo8]

"Muh Russia" crowd always hilarious..bunch of liberals who are probably arguing law enforcement has too much power 90% of the time and then talking shit when anyone under investigation doesnt want to flush their rights down the toilet because hes their enemy. But hey gots to get da Drumpf!

Can imagine if this was some poor black kid you dorks would be writing poems about how smart it was for him to take the fifth amendment

Learn to embed a tweet.

[Chris]

And you are a useless idiot.

That one rang your bell didn't it?

[Pavlov]

It has nothing to do with your trump impeachment wet dreams..pleading the fifth as a sign of guilt is retarded as anyone who is wary of the massive power of government should probably do so anytime they are investigated. Read those linksAnytime? What if your testimony is the only thing that can clear you?

[spurraider21]

It has nothing to do with your trump impeachment wet dreams..pleading the fifth as a sign of guilt is retarded as anyone who is wary of the massive power of government should probably do so anytime they are investigated. Read those links
agreed. i think its trump's previous comments on taking the 5th that are being pointed at to show hypocrisy tbh.

at least that's my perspective, generally.

still, the fed's can't "decide" something is inaccurate just because they feel like it. they'd have to have proof that you made inaccurate statements knowing that they were inaccurate

[DarrinS]

still, the fed's can't "decide" something is inaccurate just because they feel like it. they'd have to have proof that you made inaccurate statements knowing that they were inaccurate

Apparently, even if they think you’re telling the truth, they can still threaten your family and coerce a guilty plea to a process crime.

[spurraider21]

Apparently, even if they think you’re telling the truth, they can still threaten your family and coerce a guilty plea to a process crime.
:lol

did you donate to his legal defense fund?

[spurraider21]

you can read the Flynn indictment for yourself

https://www.justice.gov/file/1015126/download

tell me which of his allegedly false statements weren't false

[Reck]

still, the fed's can't "decide" something is inaccurate just because they feel like it. they'd have to have proof that you made inaccurate statements knowing that they were inaccurate

I was perplexed at that claim myself when I read it.

An untruth is an untruth and so on. They can only get you if you lie about whatever it is they asked you.

I also like how he said people who talk to cops without an attorney present because they think they have nothing to hide are fools. Immediately reminded me of Flynn. :lol

[Chris]

:lol

did you donate to his legal defense fund?

21 with the record tap out to Darrin in less than a minute :lol

[DarrinS]

:lol

did you donate to his legal defense fund?

Nope. Don’t care about Flynn or Manafort and neither do you.

[Chris]

I was perplexed

No way!

[Pavlov]

Nope. Don’t care about Flynn or Manafort and neither do you.
Then what does this passive-aggressive post mean, Darrin?

Apparently, even if they think you’re telling the truth, they can still threaten your family and coerce a guilty plea to a process crime.

[Chris]

993284586493894656

[Pavlov]

993284586493894656I know he pleaded guilty to a federal felony and is cooperating in lock step with Mueller.

[Chris]

I know he pleaded guilty to a federal felony and is cooperating in lock step with Mueller.

What do you think Mueller is investigating specifically?

[DarrinS]

I know he pleaded guilty to a federal felony and is cooperating in lock step with Mueller.

lock step

[Pavlov]

lock stepShow me where he isn't, Darrin. I have motion after motion showing he is.

[Reck]

lock step

You ever wonder why Flynn is not rotting in jail by now? And you still question his cooperation? Lol

[Chris]

lol "rotting in jail"

[djohn2oo8]

You ever wonder why Flynn is not rotting in jail by now? And you still question his cooperation? Lol
Chris is Team Russia.

[ElNono]

Despite the prickly, often-hostile reception Ellis gave prosecutors Friday, he issued no immediate ruling on a defense motion to toss out the case over Mueller's alleged excesses. At times, the judge suggested he may conclude that Mueller's initial jurisdiction when he was appointed last May was effectively expanded at a later point to cover the case he brought against Manafort in Virginia in February.


:lol damn, is this what passes for good news these days?

[Chris]

993314108782112769

Bingo.

[Chris]

993316317682851840

[Spurminator]

993314108782112769

Bingo.

That may be the single most retarded theory in this thread. Good find.

[Chris]

That may be the single most retarded theory in this thread. Good find.

Why is it retarded?

What's your theory on the Mueller investigation?

[Spurminator]

Why is it retarded?

Well, for one thing, it imagines the attention of the investigative body of the United States, and the media, as being limited to one single investigation at a time. It pretends that shocking developments in a Clinton investigation would fall under the radar because of it, in a country that still somehow finds time to talk for days about police brutality, gun violence, scandals involving state and local politicians, Kanye West tweets and Avengers films. And that all of this is being done, on purpose, to divert attention away from a candidate who lost the election 1.5 years ago.


What's your theory on the Mueller investigation?

My "theory" is that this is an ongoing investigation into coordinated foreign interference into the 2016 Presidential Election and any matters that arose or may arise from that investigation.

[Chris]

Well, for one thing, it imagines the attention of the investigative body of the United States, and the media, as being limited to one single investigation at a time. It pretends that shocking developments in a Clinton investigation would fall under the radar because of it, in a country that still somehow finds time to talk for days about police brutality, gun violence, scandals involving state and local politicians, Kanye West tweets and Avengers films. And that all of this is being done, on purpose, to divert attention away from a candidate who lost the election 1.5 years ago.

Clinton developments don't fall under the radar. Investigations into those developments do. I don't think Dan said this is the sole reason for the Mueller investigation, but I may be wrong.




My "theory" is that this is an ongoing investigation into coordinated foreign interference into the 2016 Presidential Election and any matters that arose or may arise from that investigation.

Do you think Michael Cohen coordinated with foreign intelligence to influence the 2016 Presidential Election?

Do you think Paul Manafort coordinated with foreign intelligence to influence the 2016 Presidential Election?

Do you think General Flyyn coordinated with foreign intelligence to influence the 2016 Presidential Election?

[Spurminator]

Clinton developments don't fall under the radar. Investigations into those developments do.

Why would they? Do you think the Special Council is currently the only group of people able to investigate Clinton developments?


I don't think Dan said this is the sole reason for the Mueller investigation, but I may be wrong.

I never said he did.


Do you think Michael Cohen coordinated with foreign intelligence to influence the 2016 Presidential Election?

Do you think Paul Manafort coordinated with foreign intelligence to influence the 2016 Presidential Election?

Do you think General Flyyn coordinated with foreign intelligence to influence the 2016 Presidential Election?

"and any matters that arose or may arise from that investigation"

I don't know if they did, I'm not on the Special Council.

[spurraider21]

counsel*

honest mistake. the president does it too.

[baseline bum]

process crime

Felonies good now

[Chris]

Why would they?

See:James Comey


Do you think the Special Council is currently the only group of people able to investigate Clinton developments?

No, there are investigations going on right now concerning Clinton. If Mueller was truly interested in investigating coordination with foreign intelligence he could easily start with the DNC and Christopher Steele.


I never said he did.


And that all of this is being done, on purpose, to divert attention away from a candidate who lost the election 1.5 years ago.

You implied it was the sole reason here ^


"and any matters that arose or may arise from that investigation"

I don't know if they did, I'm not on the Special Council.

They are simple yes or no questions but I'm not going to antagonize you to answer them.

[spurraider21]

See:James Comey



No, there are investigations going on right now concerning Clinton. If Mueller was truly interested in investigating coordination with foreign intelligence he could easily start with the DNC and Christopher Steele.





You implied it was the sole reason here ^



They are simple yes or no questions but I'm not going to antagonize you to answer them.
how did steele influence the US election?

was he acting on behalf of a foreign government?

[Chris]

how did steele influence the US election?

was he acting on behalf of a foreign government?

Bolded it for you


Timeline of events...
Here's the long version:

1. The DNC believes the only threat to a Clinton presidency is Bernie Sanders.

2. The DNC rigs the Democratic Primary Election against Sanders.

3. Trump gains popular support, has large rallies, emerges as probable Republican nominee. Clinton becomes concerned.

4. June 27, 2016, Bill Clinton meets in secret with AG Loretta Lynch at Phoenix Airport.

5. July 2016, Obama administration seeks FISA court surveillance of Trump, his family, his transition team, and associates using the pretext that normal pre-election contacts between the Trump transition team and other nations is suspicious.

6. The Court reviews the application and denies it.

7. Donna Brazil advances Clinton presidential debate questions on at least one occasion

8. The DNC, Obama Administration, and HRC need more probable cause to return before the FISA Court.

9. The DNC and HRC through their law firm Perkins Coie and research firm Fusion GPS pay Trump hating former British MI6 agent and active FBI informant Christopher Steele to come up with dirt on Trump.

10. In September, 2016 Steele begins “secretly” meeting with the mainstream media to propagate the story of Trump/Russian election collusion with the approval of the DNC/HRC.

11. On October 7, 2016, the mainstream media releases a taped conversation about Trump talking about grabbing pussy.

12. Between June and December 2016, Steele fabricates the “Trump Dossier” in segments which the FBI calls “Salacious and Unverified,” Steele is labeled as a fraud and further terminated as an FBI informant for having meetings with the press.

13. Despite Steele being labeled an “unreliable source” by the FBI, he maintains contact with Assistant Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr (and others at the FBI). Ohr’s wife Nellie, like Steele, is being paid with DNC/HRC money by Fusion GPS to “investigate” Trump.

14. On October 21, 2016, the FBI uses the Trump Dossier as probable cause to get a 90 day Federal (FISA) Court Order to wiretap Trump. The FBI renews the order 3 times over the course of the next 270 days despite Steele’s known lack of credibility, his personal animus and political agenda, without confirming the substance of the report, and knowing that it had been purchased by the DNC and Clinton campaign.

15. The FBI fails all 4 times to inform the Federal Judges who issued the FISA orders that the probable cause being presented was unverified, came from a discredited source, came from a source with personal animus and a political motivation, or had been purchased by the DNC and Clinton campaign.

16. FBI Director Comey signed and swore before the Federal Court that the probable cause presented to wiretap Trump was true on 3 occasions. Deputy Director McCabe did so once on behalf of the FBI.

17. Deputy Director McCabe was the chief investigator of the HRC e-mail scandal. McCabe’s wife, Jill, had received a $700,000 “donation” from the HRC in a failed run for a Virginia senate seat in 2015.

18. Deputy Attorney Generals for the DOJ Sally Yates, Dana Boente, and Rod Rosenstein each signed and swore before the Federal Court that the probable cause presented to wiretap Trump was true at least once.

19. Trump wins the General Election.

20. On December 29, 2016, Obama tries to give the ruse of Russian election interference credibility by expelling 35 Russian diplomats from the US.

21. Obama changes Executive Order 12333 to allow more agencies to have access to surveillance data.

22. In January 2017, the House Intelligence Committee announces its investigation into Russian election interference and cyber attacks.

23. On January 10, 2017, the Trump Dossier is leaked to the press.

24. On January 20, 2017, Trump takes office.

25. On January 30, 2017, Acting AG Yates is fired by Trump for refusing to obey a lawful executive order on immigration.

26. On May 9, 2017, Trump fires Comey for obstructing the HRC e-mail investigation.

27. On May 16, 2017, former FBI director Robert Mueller interviews with Trump for reappointment as FBI Director.

28. On May 17, 2017, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein appoints former Obama FBI Director and Comey confidant Robert Mueller as Special Counsel to investigate collusion between Russia and the Trump Campaign to influence the 2016 presidential election.

29. In July 2017, lead FBI Agent Peter Strzok is removed from the Mueller team after text messages between Strzok and his mistress, FBI attorney Lisa Page, reveal strong HRC sentiments and deep-seated bias toward Trump, the orchestration of leaks to the media, and a possible conspiracy, or “secret society” of McCabe and top FBI officials gathered to fix the 2016 election and later, impeach Trump.

30. Strzok was a lead investigator in the HRC e-mail scandal.

31. Mueller fails to inform Congress of the Strzok/Page matter.

32. On December 3, 2017, Congress threatens to hold Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and FBI Director Christopher Wray in contempt of Congress after months of refusing to produce records to the House Intelligence Committee investigating FBI/DOJ corruption associated with the Trump Dossier.

33. On December 7, 2017, it is revealed Mueller team member attorney Jeannie Rhee defended the Clinton Foundation in 2015 against a racketeering lawsuit brought by Freedom Watch, and personally represented Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in a lawsuit seeking access to her private emails.

34. On December 13, 2017, a portion of the Strzok/Page texts are released, but the FBI claims that 5 months of key text messages were lost due to a computer glitch. The IG recovers them in 2 days.

35. On December 22, 2017. McCabe testifies under oath to Congress that the FISA warrants used to wiretap Trump never would have been possible without the fake Trump Dossier.

36. The HIC makes public that it has summarized its investigation to date in a 4 page memo form. Stiff resistance to its release is raised by DNC and the FBI.

37. On January 28, 2018, FBI director Wray and Agents from the bureau’s counterintelligence division and legal division review the Memo and cannot point to any factual inaccuracies.

38. McCabe promptly steps down.

39. On February 2, 2018, the 4 page “FISA” Memo is released.

[Chris]

lol of course you edited your post with a qualifier per

[spurraider21]

lol of course you edited your post with a qualifier per
that's not a qualifier. it's just an additional question. if the special counsel is supposed to investigate foreign interference, it's pretty important to know what foreign government steele was acting on behalf of

and you didnt answer how steele influenced the election. the bolded didn't influence the election. none of us knew about the dossier until after the election :lol

explain how a dossier that became news 2 months after the election influenced the election

[Pavlov]

that's not a qualifier. it's just an additional question. if the special counsel is supposed to investigate foreign interference, it's pretty important to know what foreign government steele was acting on behalf of

and you didnt answer how steele influenced the election. the bolded didn't influence the election. none of us knew about the dossier until after the election :lol

explain how a dossier that became news 2 months after the election influenced the electionHillary Clinton eats babies but somehow declined to release the dossier that is at least partially true until after the time it would have done her any good.

lol all the right wing conspiracy theorists.

You know who you are.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

"Muh Russia" crowd always hilarious..bunch of liberals who are probably arguing law enforcement has too much power 90% of the time and then talking shit when anyone under investigation doesnt want to flush their rights down the toilet because hes their enemy. But hey gots to get da Drumpf!

Can imagine if this was some poor black kid you dorks would be writing poems about how smart it was for him to take the fifth amendment

Your takes and Darrin's are indistinguishable.

[Spurminator]

See:James Comey

Was James Comey limited to one investigation? I'm confused by Comey's relevance to the question of whether one investigation prevents work on another.


No, there are investigations going on right now concerning Clinton.

Thanks for confirming.


If Mueller was truly interested in investigating coordination with foreign intelligence he could easily start with the DNC and Christopher Steele.

How do you know he hasn't looked into it and decided there's nothing there?


You implied it was the sole reason here ^

"This is all being done" does not mean the same thing as "This is only being done."


They are simple yes or no questions but I'm not going to antagonize you to answer them.

They are only simple if you're cheerleading for one side of the other and making predictions. None of us knows everything being investigated, so it's silly to pretend we do and that we know the result. Obviously several people here want a certain result so bad that they're betting for it... the only reward being leverage to talk shit.

I honestly haven't paid enough attention to make any kind of educated prediction. I'm willing to let the investigation play out and see what happens, and it's striking to me to see how many Republicans want to make it go away and how many voters are willing to support that idea.

[boutons_deux]

Hysteria over Jade Helm exercise in Texas was fueled by Russians, former CIA director says

Abbott ordered the State Guard to monitor the federal exercise soon after news broke of the operation.

Hayden said that move gave Russians the go-ahead to continue — and possibly expand — their efforts to spread fear.

“At that point, I’m figuring the Russians are saying, ‘We can go big time,’” Hayden said of Abbott's response.

“At that point, I think they made the decision, ‘We’re going to play in the electoral process.’”

https://www.texastribune.org/2018/05...s-former-cia-/? (https://www.texastribune.org/2018/05/03/hysteria-over-jade-helm-exercise-texas-was-fueled-russians-former-cia-/)

[spurraider21]

Your takes and Darrin's are indistinguishable.
Oh look another paranoid alt guess

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Oh look another paranoid alt guess

They have the exact same takes. That is not a guess.

[DarrinS]

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/05/russia-report-redactions-cover-fbi-missteps/

[djohn2oo8]

Oh look. Darrin again with no take.

[spurraider21]

They have the exact same takes. That is not a guess.
Yeah ill bet they’re the same person. Probably follow you around on other forums too

[DarrinS]

Yeah ill bet they’re the same person. Probably follow you around on other forums too

:lol

[Pavlov]

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/05/russia-report-redactions-cover-fbi-missteps/Are you outraged, Darrin? The article says they're outrageous.

[Chris]

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https://media1.giphy.com/media/hMpc5y9seCrWo/giphy.gif

[Pavlov]

993553455129116672
https://media1.giphy.com/media/hMpc5y9seCrWo/giphy.gifShe saved a lot of money by living rent free in your head instead.

[Chris]

She saved a lot of money by living rent free in your head instead.

tbh this was meant for The Trump is doing Awesome Thread

[Chris]

993525888418500608

[Chris]

What do you think Mueller is investigating specifically?

Still waiting Pavlov.

[Chris]

Rejected to do what? By which judges?

MUELLER MAYHEM: Federal Judge REJECTS Special Counsel’s Request for Delay


https://www.hannity.com/media-room/mueller-mayhem-federal-judge-rejects-special-counsels-request-for-delay/

[spurraider21]

MUELLER MAYHEM: Federal Judge REJECTS Special Counsel’s Request for Delay


https://www.hannity.com/media-room/mueller-mayhem-federal-judge-rejects-special-counsels-request-for-delay/
ah you were referring to this one. arraignments are set for wednesday and mueller sought to postpone it. court said no. so we'll see what happens wednesday :tu

[Chris]

ah you were referring to this one. arraignments are set for wednesday and mueller sought to postpone it. court said no. so we'll see what happens wednesday :tu

*Risitas

[spurraider21]

*Risitas
you also said he was rejected twice by two different judges.

that's one. what's the other?

[Pavlov]

Still waiting Pavlov.Russian election interference and policy influence and related financial and obstruction crimes.

It's my guess.

Hope it was worth the wait.

[Pavlov]

MUELLER MAYHEM: Federal Judge REJECTS Special Counsel’s Request for Delay


https://www.hannity.com/media-room/mueller-mayhem-federal-judge-rejects-special-counsels-request-for-delay/:lmao MAYHEM

[Chris]

you also said he was rejected twice by two different judges.

that's one. what's the other?

Judge Ellis

[Chris]

Russian election interference and policy influence and related financial and obstruction crimes.

It's my guess.

Hope it was worth the wait.

Do you think Michael Cohen influenced the election with the Russians?

[spurraider21]

Judge Ellis
what did judge ellis reject?

[Pavlov]

Do you think Michael Cohen influenced the election with the Russians?Don't know. His current legal problems are not being investigated by Mueller so you need to explain why you brought him up.

[Chris]

what did judge ellis reject?

Indictments against Paul Manafort. There are direct quotes.

[boutons_deux]

I bet Cohen knows about the Trash mafiya / Russian collusion

[Chris]

Don't know. His current legal problems are not being investigated by Mueller so you need to explain why you brought him up.

So Mueller never investigated Michael Cohen? Link?

[spurraider21]

Indictments against Paul Manafort. There are direct quotes.
:lol i'd love to see how judge ellis rejected indictments against paul manafort

[Pavlov]

So Mueller never investigated Michael Cohen? Link?He did.

You didn't read what I wrote.

Explain why you brought him up.

[Chris]

The prosecutors obtained the search warrant (Cohen) after receiving a referral from the special counsel in the Russia investigation, Robert S. Mueller III, according to Mr. Cohen’s lawyer, who called the search “completely inappropriate and unnecessary.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/09/us/politics/fbi-raids-office-of-trumps-longtime-lawyer-michael-cohen.html

Not related to Mueller Pavlov?

[Pavlov]

Indictments against Paul Manafort. There are direct quotes.Let's see the direct quotes where he actually rejects the indictments.

[Pavlov]

Not related to Mueller Pavlov?Goes exactly with what I wrote.

You need to catch up to me.

[Chris]

:lol i'd love to see how judge ellis rejected indictments against paul manafort

This is what Judge T.S. Ellis III said at a hearing Friday: “You don’t really care about Mr. Manafort’s bank fraud … What you really care about is what information Mr. Manafort could give you that would reflect on Mr. Trump or lead to his prosecution or impeachment.”

[spurraider21]

This is what Judge T.S. Ellis III said at a hearing Friday: “You don’t really care about Mr. Manafort’s bank fraud … What you really care about is what information Mr. Manafort could give you that would reflect on Mr. Trump or lead to his prosecution or impeachment.”
that is not rejecting the indictment of manafort. no order was issued.

risitas

[Chris]

Do you think Michael Cohen influenced the election with the Russians?

[Chris]

that is not rejecting the indictment of manafort. no order was issued.

risitas

I knew you would go this route. Typical 21.

[spurraider21]

I knew you would go this route. Typical 21.
yeah that whole fact-checking route. so typical

im such an ass for asking you to back up your claims (only to have you fail)

[Chris]

2 different judges rejected Mueller and his team on two separate occasions. You can spin it however you like.

[Pavlov]

yeah that whole fact-checking route. so typicalYOU'RE A FRONT FOR THE CIA

[Pavlov]

2 different judges rejected Mueller and his team on two separate occasions. You can spin it however you like.I WILL SPIN IT INTO MAYHEM

[Chris]

I WILL SPIN IT INTO MAYHEM

Some people need incentive to read. Hannity is allowed to use buzzwords just like any other media outlet.

[Spurminator]

Some people need incentive to read. Hannity is allowed to use buzzwords just like any other media outlet.

He certainly knows how easily his audience (you) can be taken by clickbait headlines. Someone of average intellect might actually feel their intelligence was being insulted. Not you, though.

[Chris]

He certainly knows how easily his audience (you) can be taken by clickbait headlines. Someone of average intellect might actually feel their intelligence was being insulted. Not you, though.

What's your source for news? Since you have such a high intellect, maybe you can enlighten us.

Also what can you tell me about "Operation Mockingbird"? I'm sure you don't even need to look it up.

[clambake]

He certainly knows how easily his audience (you) can be taken by clickbait headlines. Someone of average intellect might actually feel their intelligence was being insulted. Not you, though.

lol

[Brazil]

He certainly knows how easily his audience (you) can be taken by clickbait headlines. Someone of average intellect might actually feel their intelligence was being insulted. Not you, though.

:lol well u know he is the 2/90 = 14% dude

[Winehole23]

What's your source for news? Since you have such a high intellect, maybe you can enlighten us.

Also what can you tell me about "Operation Mockingbird"? I'm sure you don't even need to look it up.How exactly does one vet one's news sources to verify that they are CIA-free?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Yeah ill bet they’re the same person. Probably follow you around on other forums too

I bet I never said that. My point is he claims to be a democrat but he argues like one of the bigger Trump supporters around here.

I do like how you discard out of hand that people do that type of thing though. As if you would be in a position to know.

[Spurminator]

What's your source for news? Since you have such a high intellect, maybe you can enlighten us.

It ain't fucking Hannity.com. :lol

I'm tempted to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're just trolling with links like that, but your history makes it hard to conclude anything other than you're just that dumb.

[Reck]

This is what Judge T.S. Ellis III said at a hearing Friday: “You don’t really care about Mr. Manafort’s bank fraud … What you really care about is what information Mr. Manafort could give you that would reflect on Mr. Trump or lead to his prosecution or impeachment.”

That's an opinion not based on factual evidence, Chris.

[Chris]

It ain't fucking Hannity.com. :lol

I'm tempted to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're just trolling with links like that, but your history makes it hard to conclude anything other than you're just that dumb.

Typical white flaggot.

[Chris]

That's an opinion not based on factual evidence, Chris.

The Judge's opinion is the only one that counts in court Reck.

[Pavlov]

The Judge's opinion is the only one that counts in court Reck.His written opinion when he actually rules is the only one that counts.

[Chris]

His written opinion when he actually rules is the only one that counts.

Doesn't look good for Mueller and his team imo.

[Pavlov]

Doesn't look good for Mueller and his team imo.As you just said, your opinion doesn't matter.

[Reck]

Doesn't look good for Mueller and his team imo.

So the judge will just overlook actual evidence of crimes to let Manafort go? That's laughable and I cant for the life of me figure out why you and Darrin want to die on the Manafort hill.

He's going to spend the rest of his life in prison.

[spurraider21]

So the judge will just overlook actual evidence of crimes to let Manafort go? That's laughable and I cant for the life of me figure out why you and Darrin want to die on the Manafort hill.

He's going to spend the rest of his life in prison.
special counsel isn't some super cop that can go around prosecuting whomever he sees fit.

the judge is going to have to determine if the manafort charges are within the scope of his appointment. regardless of the weight of the evidence against him

[Chris]

special counsel isn't some super cop that can go around prosecuting whomever he sees fit.

the judge is going to have to determine if the manafort charges are within the scope of his appointment. regardless of the weight of the evidence against him

:tu

[Spurminator]

Typical white flaggot.

Typical butthurt.

:lol Hannity.com
:lol useful idiot

[Chris]

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[Winehole23]

apparently the underlying DOJ discussion about its own regulations -- which is sort of what is at issue here, internal DOJ regs and their interpretation during the course of investigation -- envisions squeezing the target to get his cooperation. whether Manafort is entitled to relief or the court is empowered to give it to him on this motion isn't clear.


[I]n deciding when additional jurisdiction is needed, the Special Counsel can draw guidance from the Department’s discussion accompanying the issuance of the Special Counsel regulations. That discussion illustrated the type of “adjustments to jurisdiction” that fall within Section 600.4(b). “For example,” the discussion stated, “a Special Counsel assigned responsibility for an alleged false statement about a government program may request additional jurisdiction to investigate allegations of misconduct with respect to the administration of that program; [or] a Special Counsel may conclude that investigating otherwise unrelated allegations against a central witness in the matter is necessary to obtain cooperation.” 64 Fed. Reg. at 37,039. “Rather than leaving the issue to argument and misunderstanding as to whether the new matters are included within a vague category of ‘related matters,’ the regulations clarify that the decision as to which component would handle such new matters would be made by the Attorney General.” Id.9


9 The allusion to “related matters” refers to the Independent Counsel Act’s provision that the independent counsel’s jurisdiction shall include “all matters related to” the subject of the appointment (28 U.S.C. § 593(b)(3)), which prompted the D.C. Circuit to observe that “the scope of a special prosecutor’s investigatory jurisdiction can be both wide in perimeter and fuzzy at the borders.” United States v. Wilson, 26 F.3d 142, 148 (D.C. Cir.), cert. denied, 514 U.S. 1051 (1995).
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4429556/Response-to-motion.pdf

[Reck]

special counsel isn't some super cop that can go around prosecuting whomever he sees fit.

the judge is going to have to determine if the manafort charges are within the scope of his appointment. regardless of the weight of the evidence against him

The judge already said Mueller is probably within his scope. Rosenstein can back him up on that since he's the one who can say what Mueller can and cant go after.

I'd say he's pretty safe. It would be a rookie move by Mueller to not have cleared the Manafort case with Rosenstein.

[Winehole23]

or maybe, given Gates's cooperation, Mueller no longer needs Manafort to flip and will take him down the way the USG did Al Capone -- on tax and money-laundering charges.

[TSA]

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[Reck]

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Good. Him and Trump can both resign then.

Win/win. :tu

[Pavlov]

Dennison's legal problems remain.

[Chris]

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Bit of a let down imo. Unless it impacts the Mueller investigation and I'm not seeing it.

[Pavlov]

Bit of a let down imo. Unless it impacts the Mueller investigation and I'm not seeing it.Why are you so afraid of the Mueller investigation, Chris?

[spurraider21]

The judge already said Mueller is probably within his scope. Rosenstein can back him up on that since he's the one who can say what Mueller can and cant go after.

I'd say he's pretty safe. It would be a rookie move by Mueller to not have cleared the Manafort case with Rosenstein.
the judge in manafort's civil action determined it was within the scope, iirc. TS Ellis is the judge in the criminal matter. i think we're still waiting on a decision/order on that front

judge told Mueller to send him that full non-public rosenstein memo which outlines the scope of his investigation. that was good enough for the civil judge, we will see what judge ellis thinks. not sure how long it's gonna be till that ruling

[Chris]

Why are you so afraid of the Mueller investigation, Chris?

Who said I was afraid?

[Reck]

the judge in manafort's civil action determined it was within the scope, iirc. TS Ellis is the judge in the criminal matter. i think we're still waiting on a decision/order on that front

judge told Mueller to send him that full non-public rosenstein memo which outlines the scope of his investigation. that was good enough for the civil judge, we will see what judge ellis thinks. not sure how long it's gonna be till that ruling

Oh I see. Got it.

[Pavlov]

Who said I was afraid?Me.

I say you're afraid. If you aren't, why post about it so much?

[Chris]

Me.

I say you're afraid. If you aren't, why post about it so much?

It's exciting.

[Pavlov]

It's exciting.But you demand that it end.

Why?

[Chris]

But you demand that it end.

Why?

See posts: #28588 #28589 #28590 #28591 #28592 #28593 ITT

[Pavlov]

See posts: #28588 #28589 #28590 #28591 #28592 #28593 ITTOh, blog told you to want that.

So you'd be fine with anyone else Rosenstein might appoint to carry out the investigation, right?

[Chris]

Oh, blog told you to want that.

blog = Rep. Louis Gohmert, someone who knows Mueller a lot better than you or I. Doubt you read it.


So you'd be fine with anyone else Rosenstein might appoint to carry out the investigation, right?

I don't approve of Rosenstein right now. Undecided on Wray.

[Pavlov]

blog = Rep. Louis Gohmert, someone who knows Mueller a lot better than you or I. Doubt you read it.The same guy who says there are ISIS camps in Mexico?

lol



I don't approve of Rosenstein right now. Undecided on Wray.So it's only the personalities that scare you.

Not the investigation.

But you only hate the people who are actually investigating.

What a coincidence!

[Chris]

apparently the underlying DOJ discussion about its own regulations -- which is sort of what is at issue here, internal DOJ regs and their interpretation during the course of investigation -- envisions squeezing the target to get his cooperation. whether Manafort is entitled to relief or the court is empowered to give it to him on this motion isn't clear.

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4429556/Response-to-motion.pdf

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[clambake]

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looks like bob is a badass.

[Chris]

looks like bob is a badass.

He's a bad cop who lied about weapons of mass destruction to start a never ending war. Your admiration for him is disgusting.

[Chris]

Ah, the Mueller connection.


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[Reck]

Ah, the Mueller connection.


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So did you want Mueller to know the guy’s inner thoughts and hidden life before deciding to work with him :lol

Also, :lol you not having any problem believing this story (you should) but refusing to believe Roy Moore pedolandia’s aventures and Trump’s. :lmao

[Pavlov]

Ah, the Mueller connection.


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Does that change the laws, Chris?

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

https://i.gifer.com/74P2.gif

[Chris]

So did you want Mueller to know the guy’s inner thoughts and hidden life before deciding to work with him :lol

Proponents of your impeachment fantasy get a special pass. I understand.

[Chris]

Does that change the laws, Chris?

What laws were you referring to specifically so I can answer honestly.

[Chris]

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[Pavlov]

What laws were you referring to specifically so I can answer honestly.Any law.

[Reck]

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Lets put Preet in there.

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

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FAKE NEWS

[Winehole23]

seems to be a New York tradition. Weiner and Spitzer and Silver. Now Schneiderman.

Maybe Silver doesn't belong in there -- he was just a regular crook, not a perv on top.

wonder who's next?

[boutons_deux]

Dennison's legal problems remain.

yep, Mueller has probably given the NY state AG's office lots of criminal evidence on Trash such that Pence cannot pardon state criminal Trash. Schneiderman's fall doesn't state the legal bulldozer

[boutons_deux]

seems to be a New York tradition. Weiner and Spitzer and Silver. Now Schneiderman.

Maybe Silver doesn't belong in there -- he was just a regular crook, not a perv on top.

wonder who's next?

lots of hits like this one:

https://www.alternet.org/ex-con-who-calls-black-people-negroes-skyrockets-top-west-virginia-poll-after-racist-campaign-ad

but evangelicals give Trash a pass, and it has nothing to do with Christ, Their Lord God And And Savior

[Chris]

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[Pavlov]

993946952386609152:lol Dennison is afraid of Mueller

[Winehole23]

DJT's lawyers are smart to keep him from testifying; he shouldn't do it.

[Reck]

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No wonder Trump has thrown Cohen under the bus and running away from him as fast as he can.

If this is true then how is Russia giving you money so you can put it into your campaign not collusion with a foreign government. Obviously this has to pan out to proof true.

[Spurminator]

Trying to imagine any other politician, particularly Democrat, requesting to answer questions in writing versus open testimony, and how conservative news outlets (and tools like Chris) would react. Someday you're going to be embarrassed that you were so protective of such a useless clown.

[Pavlov]

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No wonder Trump has thrown Cohen under the bus and running away from him as fast as he can.

If this is true then how is Russia giving you money so you can put it into your campaign not collusion with a foreign government. Obviously this has to pan out to proof true.Giuliani should be able to clear all this up tonight on Hannity,.

[Chris]

Giuliani should be able to clear all this up tonight on Hannity,.

Avenatti farts out a tweet and now Rudy has to clear it up. That Liberal fantasy world :lol

[Pavlov]

Avenatti farts out a tweet and now Rudy has to clear it up. That Liberal fantasy world :lolIt was a joke, Chris.

Rudy makes things worse for Dennison.

[Chris]

It was a joke, Chris.

Rudy makes things worse for Dennison.

That's what they want you to think. Rudy is running interference.

[Reck]

Avenatti farts out a tweet and now Rudy has to clear it up. That Liberal fantasy world :lol

Avenatti is on discovery mode. :lol

Mueller's team has also talked to this Viktor guy already.

[Chris]

Avenatti is on discovery mode. :lol

Mueller's team has also talked to this Viktor guy already.

I wonder what Viktor is up to?

[Pavlov]

That's what they want you to think. Rudy is running interference.By rolling out Stormy Daniels story ver. 4.3?

lol

Explain what you say he is doing, Chris.

[Chris]

By rolling out Stormy Daniels story ver. 4.3?

lol

Explain what you say he is doing, Chris.

Exposing the leakers by spreading fake news.

[Pavlov]

Exposing the leakers by spreading fake news.By looking like a senile idiot and publicly contradicting his client and his client's personal lawyer?

:lol

[Chris]

By looking like a senile idiot and publicly contradicting his client and his client's personal lawyer?

:lol

Yeah.

[Pavlov]

Yeah.So he should go on TV and talk about the $500,000 given by Viktor Vekselberg to Cohen.

[Reck]

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:lol Daily Beast. Republican prop machines even going against old Donny.

[Chris]

So he should go on TV and talk about the $500,000 given by Viktor Vekselberg to Cohen.

Sure, why not?

[Chris]

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:lol Daily Beast. Republican prop machines even going against old Donny.

Daily Beast is a Republican prop machine? :lmao

[Pavlov]

Daily Beast is a Republican prop machine? :lmaoAre you just in denial about this whole thing, Chris?

Cohen's lawyer didn't deny it.

[Pavlov]

993980151057780736

:lol Daily Beast. Republican prop machines even going against old Donny.993989013617946624
:lmao

[Chris]

Are you just in denial about this whole thing, Chris?

Cohen's lawyer didn't deny it.

What's going to happen?

[Pavlov]

What's going to happen?Cohen is going to have to answer a lot of questions.

[Chris]

Cohen is going to have to answer a lot of questions.

Mueller time?

[Pavlov]

Mueller time?USAO SDNY time

[djohn2oo8]

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hmmmm

[djohn2oo8]

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[Chris]

Cohen was the glue guy. Trump is finished.

[dabom]

Cohen was the glue guy. Trump is finished.

:lmao

[Pavlov]

994016363034415104
hmmmm

HOLY SHIT ALTERS!

[Chris]

HOLY SHIT ALTERS!

ObpcGNCU944

[koriwhat]

considering you think "real liberalism" is just conservatism, i wouldn't be surprised if your idea of "real feminism" is just misogyny

funny you claim i consider real liberalism ideals to be conservatism when i have never made such a statement ever. you're just a dumbfuck trying to push your agenda. it's all good dumbfuck. keep doing dumbfuck shit you dumbfuck.

[spurraider21]

funny you claim i consider real liberalism ideals to be conservatism when i have never made such a statement ever. you're just a dumbfuck trying to push your agenda. it's all good dumbfuck. keep doing dumbfuck shit you dumbfuck.
you didnt state it verbatim. but when you described policy positions of a "real liberal" you actually just defined modern conservatism

i'll tell you what you actually did say though. you said it would have been awesome if pizzagate was real because you hate HRC

[Blake]

funny you claim i consider real liberalism ideals to be conservatism when i have never made such a statement ever. you're just a dumbfuck trying to push your agenda. it's all good dumbfuck. keep doing dumbfuck shit you dumbfuck.

:lol so angry

[koriwhat]

you didnt state it verbatim. but when you described policy positions of a "real liberal" you actually just defined modern conservatism

i'll tell you what you actually did say though. you said it would have been awesome if pizzagate was real because you hate HRC

PG itself isn't cool at all... pedophilia is disgusting, disturbing, and those who are into that should be put out to the pasture. i think any sound person would think likewise.

you trying to jab at me because i want nothing but the worst for HRC is humorous.

you're a bitch SR and this is just your M.O.

[spurraider21]

PG itself isn't cool at all... pedophilia is disgusting, disturbing, and those who are into that should be put out to the pasture. i think any sound person would think likewise.

you trying to jab at me because i want nothing but the worst for HRC is humorous.

you're a bitch SR and this is just your M.O.
no except you actually said it would be awesome if pizzagate was real

[koriwhat]

no except you actually said it would be awesome if pizzagate was real

lmao you're a bitch man. plain and simple and the games you play are for bitches. play on bitch!

[spurraider21]

lmao you're a bitch man. plain and simple and the games you play are for bitches. play on bitch!
you said a "true liberal" would want less government involvement and less handouts/welfare

when i asked how a true liberal would differ from a modern conservative, you refused to answer.

if repeating your own words/positions back at you is me "playing games" then maybe you should rethink your words

[djohn2oo8]

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:lol

[koriwhat]

you said a "true liberal" would want less government involvement and less handouts/welfare

when i asked how a true liberal would differ from a modern conservative, you refused to answer.

if repeating your own words/positions back at you is me "playing games" then maybe you should rethink your words

so you want more gov and more handouts/welfare? lmao!

and why should i have to give an opinion on conservatism anyhow? idgaf about it so why do you care so much? and why do you expect or require both pov's? the only thing i laugh at is how crazy and childish you and your ilk are. bunch of sissy babies yall are and you prove it here daily little baby.

[spurraider21]

so you want more gov and more handouts/welfare? lmao!
if you healthcare to be a handout/welfare, then absolutely.


and why should i have to give an opinion on conservatism anyhow? idgaf about it so why do you care so much? and why do you expect or require both pov's? the only thing i laugh at is how crazy and childish you and your ilk are. bunch of sissy babies yall are and you prove it here daily little baby.
you dont have to. all you've done is basically say a true liberal would be a conservative. which doesn't entirely make sense. you aren't required to make sense. but i'm gonna point it out when you don't

[koriwhat]

you dont have to. all you've done is basically say a true liberal would be a conservative. which doesn't entirely make sense. you aren't required to make sense. but i'm gonna point it out when you don't

i never said that at all you fucking bitch.

as for healthcare... pay for it! fuck your handouts/welfare state!

[spurraider21]

i never said that at all you fucking bitch.
lol mad. i asked you to point out policy positions of what you think a true liberal would be... and then i asked you how to distinguish that from a conservative. you weren't able to. saying "fucking bitch" isn't going to change that


as for healthcare... pay for it! fuck your handouts/welfare state!
we disagree there. i think we're at a point where we have the capability to provide healthcare for all. it then boils down to the moral question of "should we." i think healthcare is a pretty fundamental need, even for those who can't afford it. besides, if you do have government providing healthcare, it removes the profit motive... the need to please shareholders is what drives up the cost of medical services (and pharmaceutical products)

[koriwhat]

lol mad. i asked you to point out policy positions of what you think a true liberal would be... and then i asked you how to distinguish that from a conservative. you weren't able to. saying "fucking bitch" isn't going to change that

yall bitches have a warped sense of entitlement. i owe you not a damn thing bitch. as well, yall think everyone's mad because they cuss or whatever here. i just think you're a bitch is all.

now go fuck yourself you stupid bitch.



we disagree there. i think we're at a point where we have the capability to provide healthcare for all. it then boils down to the moral question of "should we." i think healthcare is a pretty fundamental need, even for those who can't afford it. besides, if you do have government providing healthcare, it removes the profit motive... the need to please shareholders is what drives up the cost of medical services (and pharmaceutical products)

don't care about your socialist utopia bs... pay for it and stop being a mooch.

[spurraider21]

yall bitches have a warped sense of entitlement. i owe you not a damn thing bitch. as well, yall think everyone's mad because they cuss or whatever here. i just think you're a bitch is all.
of course you don't owe me anything. i already said 2 posts earlier that you aren't required to make sense. but when you dont make sense, im gonna point it out


now go fuck yourself you stupid bitch.
this is what calm, stable people say


don't care about your socialist utopia bs... pay for it and stop being a mooch.
it's fine to have a disagreement tbh. take a breath

[koriwhat]

this is what calm, stable people say

i'm plenty calm. actually really calm atm.

[Chris]

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Gowdy bad now

[Pavlov]

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Gowdy bad nowWhy do they want documents now?

They already finished their report.

[Chris]

Why do they want documents now?

They already finished their report.

Doesn't look good for team Mueller.

[Chris]

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[spurraider21]

yeah i remember when people were going to be going to prison because of the nunes memo :lol

[Pavlov]

Doesn't look good for team Mueller.In what way?

Explain.

[clambake]

In what way?

Explain.

hey, it doesn't look good. thats all you need to know.

[Chris]

In what way?

Explain.

Not long before someone points the finger at him or his Clinton cartel prosecutors. He's already pissed off two judges.

[Pavlov]

Not long before someone points the finger at him or his Clinton cartel prosecutors. He's already pissed off two judges.:lolWhat does that have to do with the documents the House members want?

[Chris]

:lolWhat does that have to do with the documents the House members want?

What part of "Russia probe" did you not understand?

[Pavlov]

What part of "Russia probe" did you not understand?What documents are they asking for and how do they affect Mueller again?

[Chris]

What documents are they asking for and how do they affect Mueller again?

The details of the documents weren't mentioned. What part of "Russia probe" did you not understand?

[Quadzilla99]

Not long before someone points the finger at him or his Clinton cartel prosecutors. He's already pissed off two judges.

Youre still on Clinton?

[TSA]

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According to those in the know here the OIG report is going to be a huge nothingburger.

[Pavlov]

The details of the documents weren't mentioned. What part of "Russia probe" did you not understand?So you have no basis to say it looks bad for anyone.

lol

[Pavlov]

According to those in the know here the OIG report is going to be a huge nothingburger.Well, some folks got their hopes way up for another Horowitz report too.

[spurraider21]

According to those in the know here the OIG report is going to be a huge nothingburger.
would mccabe's altering of the 302's not have been part of Horowitz' report on mccabe?

[TSA]

would mccabe's altering of the 302's not have been part of Horowitz' report on mccabe?

No it would not have been a part on the first report released on McCabe. If you’d read the statement from Horowitz you’d have known the report/criminal referral on McCabe wasn’t even because of what Horowitz was initially tasked to investigate.

Do you think we won’t be hearing about McCabe again in the upcoming OIG report?

[spurraider21]

No it would not have been a part on the first report released on McCabe. If you’d read the statement from Horowitz you’d have known the report/criminal referral on McCabe wasn’t even because of what Horowitz was initially tasked to investigate.

Do you think we won’t be hearing about McCabe again in the upcoming OIG report?
well the pending report that is expected at some point this month is about the FBI/DOJ's pre-election actions... with respect to things like the handling of the clinton matter.

dont see what that would have to do with Flynn's statements to the FBI after the election and his subsequent indictment/plea

so sure, i think mccabe will be mentioend again. the new report will include info on the clinton matter, and mccabe's leak to the WSJ was related to that. i dont see where the 302/flynn/sara carter stuff comes into play

as the first report was a more general look into mccabe's misconduct, i thought it would have been appropriate to be included there

[djohn2oo8]

:lol Pence seems anxious

[boutons_deux]

Donald Trump gave a huge gift to Vladimir Putin, and may have saved the Russian government (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/5/9/1763198/-Donald-Trump-gave-a-huge-gift-to-Vladimir-Putin-and-may-have-saved-the-Russian-government)

A report on Russian state media shows that Donald Trump has already delivered not just a gift to Vladimir Putin, but possibly the gift that Putin has wanted all along. (https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/993970473032650752)

Russia to get such a huge amount when the government has long been strapped for cash?

Female host says:

"Looks like we found it.

Trump is withdrawing US from the Iran nuclear deal. Oil prices should go up, which is good for us."

Crude oil futures have leapt from $26 at the time of Trump’s election to $77 today (https://www.wsj.com/articles/oil-futures-rebound-on-bullish-u-s-inventory-data-1525834122).

Russian oil production hovers around 10 million barrels a day. That means

the increase that has already happened in oil prices is providing Putin with an extra $520 million a day.

If the prices were to continue at the level generated by Trump’s actions for a year, Putin could meet all his promises to Russia—and have $60 billion to spare—just out of the net increase.

Everything else that Trump has or hasn’t done about Russia, any sanctions, any tariffs, any expelled diplomats,

absolutely pales in comparison to the huge boost he provided to the Russian economy by backing away from the Iran nuclear deal.

difficult to think of anything Trump might have done to generate a more certain boost for Russia.

Which raises the question: Was this the deal all along?

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1763198

[boutons_deux]

Trove of Russian-Backed Facebook Ads Show 2016 Strategy at Work

Russia’s main goal was provoking discontent in the U.S., leading to and continuing beyond Donald Trump’s election in 2016.

The ads, which are one of the clearest demonstrations of Russia’s financial investment in disrupting American politics, have been much discussed by Congress, Facebook and Special Counsel Robert Mueller behind closed doors.


For some lawmakers, they raised questions about whether Russia was successful in swaying public opinion, in Trump’s favor or otherwise.

The 3,519 ads, released Thursday (https://democrats-intelligence.house.gov/facebook-ads/) by Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee, were posted between 2015 and 2017.

They were designed to draw clicks from people who had liked Facebook groups on both sides of emotional issues involving gun regulations, Muslims, gay rights, immigration, African-Americans -- and various candidates.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-10/trove-of-russian-backed-facebook-ads-show-2016-strategy-at-work

[Pavlov]

Yeah, yeah -- sauces and all that -- but lol.

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[boutons_deux]

CNN's Jake Tapper Explains Why Pence's Call to End the Mueller Probe Isn't Just Ridiculous—It's Appalling

Supporters of the president keep saying they want the investigation to end — but Mueller has a mission for a reason.

addressing Vice President Mike Pence's recent claim that special counsel Robert Mueller should wrap up his investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election soon.

In just under a minute, Tapper made it clear why this call — echoed by President Donald Trump and many of his supporters — is both absurd and a betrayal of the rule of law.

"Now, Vice President Pence seems to possibly have taken on a different view,

for the first time asserting that the investigation has gone on too long and it needs to end," Tapper said.

"With nary a mention of the point of the investigation:

To see if any Americans aided the Russian government in its attempt to interfere int he 2016 election. "

"Nor any mention, by Vice President Pence, of the

five guilty pleas,

one person sentenced,

23 defendants and

75 criminal charges

in all Robert Mueller's investigation has yielded so far."

https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/cnns-jake-tapper-explains-why-pences-call-end-mueller-probe-isnt-just-ridiculous

Pence seems even below the standard stupidity of the garden-variety evangelical Bible-humper

[Chris]

I bet Roger Stone flipped. Nunes is in big trouble now.

[Pavlov]

I bet Roger Stone flipped. Nunes is in big trouble now.What do you think Stone and Nunes did that got them in trouble?

[Chris]

What are you saying Stone and Nunes did?

I can see that one went well over your head.

[Chris]

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[Pavlov]

I can see that one went well over your head.Well, word is Mueller is investigating Nunes -- thought you had your own sauces.

But you don't.

[Pavlov]

994655142568919041:lol Fitton just writes articles to use the word "collusion."

[Chris]

Well, word is Mueller is investigating Nunes -- thought you had your own sauces.

But you don't.

Not my job to refute your little conspiracy theories from Scott Dworkin.

[Pavlov]

Not my job to refute your little conspiracy theories from Scott Dworkin.What is your job here, Chris?

[Chris]

Rex thinks you're dumb.

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[Pavlov]

Rex thinks you're dumb.

994690510148141056Who is rex?

[Chris]

Who is rex?

Probably an alt-Reich LARPer.

[Pavlov]

Probably an alt-Reich LARPer.It was a serious question.

Who is Rex?

[TSA]

Well, word is Mueller is investigating Nunes -- thought you had your own sauces.

But you don't.

:lmao reduced to posting Scott Dworkin tweets

[Pavlov]

:lmao reduced to posting Scott Dworkin tweetsYou posted Clinton eats babies. How much did that reduce you, TSA?

[djohn2oo8]

:lmao reduced to posting Scott Dworkin tweets

Reduced to not giving your bullshit conspiracies anymore :lol

[TSA]

You posted Clinton eats babies. How much did that reduce you, TSA?

:lol the dingflection

[Pavlov]

:lol the dingflection:lol You'll never live it down.

Sorry. You did it to yourself.

[Chris]

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[TSA]

:lol You'll never live it down.

Sorry. You did it to yourself.

I never posted Clinton eats babies.

You posted a Scott Dworkin tweet.

I never thought I’d see the day Chumpdumper would resort to using Dworkin.

It may be time for you to retire Pavlov and start fresh you’ll never live this one down. Even djohn hasn’t stopped this low.

:lmao fucking Scott Dworkin

[Chris]

:lol Fitton just writes articles to use the word "collusion."

:lol article was written by Sara Carter.

[Chris]

:lmao fucking Scott Dworkin

*Risitas

[spurraider21]

:lol article was written by Sara Carter.
:lol MUELLER MADNESS

[Chris]

:lol MUELLER MADNESS

Coaching Comey's testimony - lawdy!

[Spurminator]

I never posted Clinton eats babies.

You posted a Scott Dworkin tweet.

I never thought I’d see the day Chumpdumper would resort to using Dworkin.

It may be time for you to retire Pavlov and start fresh you’ll never live this one down. Even djohn hasn’t stopped this low.

:lmao fucking Scott Dworkin

:lol You've posted Donald Trump tweets as evidence contradicting allegations against Donald Trump.

You will lose by comparison every time.

[Chris]

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[spurraider21]

jack posobiec tweet of rushlimbaugh.com link

:lol talk about having your news filtered for you

[Pavlov]

I never posted Clinton eats babies.

You posted a Scott Dworkin tweet.

I never thought I’d see the day Chumpdumper would resort to using Dworkin.

It may be time for you to retire Pavlov and start fresh you’ll never live this one down. Even djohn hasn’t stopped this low.

:lmao fucking Scott DworkinYou'll have to explain your reasoning, TSA.

It's just a rumor.

[Pavlov]

:lol article was written by Sara Carter.:lol It's a press release.

[djohn2oo8]

:lol It's a press release.

Goodness.

[Chris]

1. Mueller indicts 13 Russian troll farms thinking they won't show up to court.

2. Russians show up to court.

3. Mueller's team asks for more time. (:lol)

4. Judge says "Nah" (:lol)

5. Now Mueller has to share his "evidence" with the Russian lawyers (:lol)

6. :lmao