Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

[BanditHiro]

lol TSA you can't spin this. Nunes fail for an obvious trap and pretty much proved that the investigation needs and independent investigator

[TSA]

lol TSA you can't spin this. Nunes fail for an obvious trap and pretty much proved that the investigation needs and independent investigator



lol what was the trap?

lol who set the trap?

lol get the fuck out of here. Someone is about to get fucked and it isn't Trump or anyone on his team.

[TSA]

lol TSA you can't spin this. Nunes fail for an obvious trap and pretty much proved that the investigation needs and independent investigator

I suggest you watch the Nunes interview where he repeatedly says the surveillance of Trump had nothing to do with Russia or the Russian investigation....so you need an independent investigator for investigating something other than Russia?

[monosylab1k]

lol what was the trap?

lol who set the trap?

lol get the fuck out of here. Someone is about to get fucked and it isn't Trump or anyone on his team.

tbh I wouldn't be surprised if Comey put out some disinformation internally, to see which rats took the cheese and where they would leak it.

[boutons_deux]

It could get really ugly for past and current Obama admin members.

how so? Obama people illegally ordered IC to do what? all you've got is wishful thinking and baby sausage pizza

[spurraider21]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8c9nRYS_XfE/VSA47Fm7bJI/AAAAAAAASwM/9uA1BjHyZWs/s1600/please-disperse.gif

[TSA]

how so? Obama people illegally ordered IC to do what? all you've got is wishful thinking and baby sausage pizza

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/50/1801

[TSA]

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@djohn2008 :rollin

Democrats Embrace Conservative Conspiracy Theorist to Lead Russia Hysteria

Louise Mensch spews inaccuracies, and Democrats praise her for it

Since her short-lived political career, Louise Mensch has developed a reputation among Clinton partisans as a constant purveyor of Russian election interference allegations and conspiracy theories. Like several Clinton partisans, her Twitter feed is completely focused on the anti-Russia narrative.

On November 2016, the pro-Brexit former Conservative member of Parliament managed to transmogrify a tweet about the passing of Leonard Cohen—who is Canadian—into a pro-America, anti-Russia attack. In January 2017, she claimed without any evidence that a terrorist attack at a nightclub in Istanbul was a false-flag Russian operation.


On March 20, Mensch retweeted a tweet claiming, “We are at war with Russia.” Mensch has previously called for all out war on Russia, with “precision bombing raids. Bank hacks. Massive cyber war.” This war mongering hysteria from Mensch has lead her to claim that anything she disagrees with is a Russian plot, including her insistence that disgraced former Rep. Anthony Weiner was sexting a Russian hacker instead of a 15 year-old girl—despite the teen being interviewed in person. When Newsweek‘s Kurt Eichenwald was sent a gif by a Twitter user to trigger his epilepsy, Mensch claimed that a Russian did it, though the FBI recently arrested an American for the attack.

Her false claims venture into other topics too. In 2012, Mensch told reporters that she suffered ill-effects of taking hard drugs in her 20s while in the music industry. “I did serious drugs, and it messed with my head, and it’s a terrible thing, and I do not want to see other young people exposed to that by legalization,” Mensch said on BBC Question Time. In 2015, The Independent reported that Mensch tried to smear the U.K.’s Labor Party as anti-Semitic by citing her own search history. On January 27 of this year, she claimed that NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick was the single greatest recruiter for Donald Trump because he took a stand against racism.

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Though many of her claims lack evidence, the Democratic establishment increasingly praises Mensch for her work. Former President Barack Obama’s Harvard Law professor Laurence Tribe tweeted Mensch’s embarrassing recent interview with BBC, during which she defended propagating a conspiracy theory that Putin murdered Andrew Breitbart. “Mensch is now routinely cited as some sort of credible journalistic source on Russia conspiracies by unhinged, mainstream anti-Trump fanatics such as MSNBC and Harvard Law professor Laurence Tribe, who will launder any insanity as long as it promotes their Tom Clancy fever dreams of Trump as a Kremlin asset,” wrote Glenn Greenwald for The Intercept on March 7.

The New York Times lent credence to Mensch’s conspiracy theories by publishing her recent op-ed about Russian hacking. Several of New York Times’ reporters criticized Mensch and refuted a claim she made in the op-ed about a FISA court order issued for the FBI to examine communications between the Trump campaign and Russian banks. New York Times reporter Eric Lichtblau tweeted, “You’ve conned your followers @LouiseMensch in believing you have any clue what you’re talking about and created a shitstorm of ignorance.” Despite Mensch’s long record of fabricating claims and perpetuating conspiracy theories, several Democrats have elevated her work. Rep. Ted Lieu commended Mensch on Twitter, calling Mensch’s New York Times op-ed a “great piece.” Former DNC Interim Chair Donna Brazile, who was exposed by WikiLeaks for helping the Clinton campaign cheat during the Democratic primaries, tweeted at Mensch in response to the op-ed, “thank you for great journalism.” Democratic Party fundraiser Scott Dworkin regularly cites and converses with Mensch about Russia.

This embrace of Mensch and her Russian conspiracy theories from Democratic leadership illuminates how desperate the Democratic Party is to propagate the Russian hysteria narrative in lieu of advocating policy stances that would benefit voters. The party would rather praise conservative war hawks—who salivate at the thought of escalating military conflict with Russia—than develop meaningful policies.

http://observer.com/2017/03/democrats-embrace-louise-mensch-russia-conspiracy-theorist/?platform=hootsuite

[TSA]

how so? Obama people illegally ordered IC to do what? all you've got is wishful thinking and baby sausage pizza

Nunes makes two allegations that we put in the category of upsetting if true. The first is that “details with little apparent foreign intelligence value were widely disseminated in intelligence community reporting”—a matter he later alleges took place dozens of times. This should, of course, never happen. When US person information is collected, it is supposed to be minimized unless it has foreign intelligence value. So if Nunes is right here, he’s describing a genuine problem.

He also alleges that he has “confirmed that additional names of Trump transition team members were unmasked”—additional, here referring to in addition to General Flynn. There’s nothing wrong with unmasking in and of itself. But in combination with the previous allegation—that material with little foreign intelligence value was disseminated—unmasking could be a very serious matter. That is, Nunes appears to be alleging that the intelligence community reported a whole lot of material incidentally collected about the Trump transition that was of no foreign intelligence value and then unmasked the US persons involved. This would be a significant abuse if it were true.

[baseline bum]

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:lmao

That bitch never checked out

[pgardn]

The only foolish ones are those still trying to push the Trump/Russia collusion.

Nope.

The dopes that are playing tightrope with a clown.
Its so funny. I would love to see how many times Ryan has slapped his forehead off his face when he reads the 3 am tweets in the morning.

Although I agree the Trump (himself)/ Russian collusion specifically on the election is a dead end.

[djohn2oo8]

:lmao

That bitch never checked out

Is that why NYT had her write for them?

[djohn2oo8]

tbh I wouldn't be surprised if Comey put out some disinformation internally, to see which rats took the cheese and where they would leak it.

Comey did not give Nunes the same briefing he gave Schiff. And THAT was to let Nunes fall for the trap.

[djohn2oo8]

I like how TSA wants to say I'm wrong when the fuck face lost his other account for being wrong. :lol

[DarrinS]

One thing is for sure -- Dems and IC are ALL IN

[TSA]

Is that why NYT had her write for them?

You do you realize NYT reporters shit on her after the NYT had her write for them? :lol

[TSA]

Comey did not give Nunes the same briefing he gave Schiff. And THAT was to let Nunes fall for the trap.

:rollin another claim of a "trap" :rollin

[djohn2oo8]

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[TSA]

I like how TSA wants to say I'm wrong when the fuck face lost his other account for being wrong. :lol

I worded my claim wrong and lost on a technicality but my point still stood, the President can order surveillance without a court order.

You on the other hand have a 76 page thread of BOOM's and jail sentences being handed out to the entire Trump team, how's that working out for you? And is our bet still on for the Priebus obstruction of justice charge still on or what? Are we close to the two month time frame you set?

[djohn2oo8]

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Comey about to nail Nunes to the motherfucker tree
of Woe.

[TSA]

http://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/50575/1lw8bb-171485.JPG

[pgardn]

:rollin another claim of a "trap" :rollin

How could pizza boy laugh at anything remotely bizzare after his forays into the conspiracy of children parts in Italian food...

[TSA]

844702382021857280
Comey about to nail Nunes to the motherfucker tree
of Woe.

You're as clueless as Cooper's panel. Nunes said the surveillance on Trump had nothing to do with Russia or the Russian investigation. Why would he go to the committee on the Russian investigation?

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[TSA]

How could pizza boy laugh at anything remotely bizzare after his forays into the conspiracy of children parts in Italian food...

Some people's pizza jokes make me laugh, yours are just plain stale, like pizza left on the counter.

[TSA]

844703456136974337

Brian "#holygrail Trumps tax return" Fallon :rollin

[djohn2oo8]

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[baseline bum]

One thing is for sure -- Dems and IC are ALL IN

Why? Because the FBI says Russia was behind the stolen emails? I'd be surprised if there is any evidence of treason. Not shocked since Trump is such a scumbag, but surprised. There was no need for communication between Trump and his campaign and Putin, they both had the same obvious goal. I think it's more likely than not Trump did nothing illegal, but I'd never put it past a piece of shit mentored by Roy Cohn.

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

Why? Because the FBI says Russia was behind the stolen emails? I'd be surprised if there is any evidence of treason. Not shocked since Trump is such a scumbag, but surprised. There was no need for communication between Trump and his campaign and Putin, they both had the same obvious goal. I think it's more likely than not Trump did nothing illegal, but I'd never put it past a piece of shit mentored by Roy Cohn.

Trump is compromised if even one of his people associated with Russia. Which they did. Then he lied about any of his people being associated.

[djohn2oo8]

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[TSA]

Why? Because the FBI says Russia was behind the stolen emails? I'd be surprised if there is any evidence of treason. Not shocked since Trump is such a scumbag, but surprised. There was no need for communication between Trump and his campaign and Putin, they both had the same obvious goal. I think it's more likely than not Trump did nothing illegal, but I'd never put it past a piece of shit mentored by Roy Cohn.

Have you read the criticisms of the CrowdStrike report the FBI was forced to use for their Russian ODNI report?

[djohn2oo8]

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[baseline bum]

Have you read the criticisms of the CrowdStrike report the FBI was forced to use for their Russian ODNI report?

So Comey's just taking the DNC at their word?

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[monosylab1k]

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Scalps incoming

[djohn2oo8]

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[monosylab1k]

I honestly think Pence/Ryan are both way worse for America than Trump. Hopefully this leads to a complete meltdown of Trump's team, with Trump simply losing all credibility but staying in office as the biggest lame duck of all time, then getting kicked the fuck out in 2020.

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

I honestly think Pence/Ryan are both way worse for America than Trump. Hopefully this leads to a complete meltdown of Trump's team, with Trump simply losing all credibility but staying in office as the biggest lame duck of all time, then getting kicked the fuck out in 2020.

Who said Pence won't be implicated as well? Ryan isn't out of the woods either.

[monosylab1k]

Who said Pence won't be implicated as well? Ryan isn't out of the woods either.

We're getting more scalps, but I highly doubt we get those scalps. Paul Ryan would be so much worse than Trump. Pence would be awful too.

[monosylab1k]

Really wish this was under 1800's practices. Steve Bannon getting put in front of a firing squad is something I'd ferociously jerk off to.

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[baseline bum]

I honestly think Pence/Ryan are both way worse for America than Trump. Hopefully this leads to a complete meltdown of Trump's team, with Trump simply losing all credibility but staying in office as the biggest lame duck of all time, then getting kicked the fuck out in 2020.

We're long past the time when Trump could have been thought of as anything but a rubber stamp for the GOP's bills. No real healthcare plan, no importing drugs from Canada, no more making hedge fund managers pay taxes like everyone else. Trump is doing all the bad things Pence would and on top of that wanting to tax people for food to pay for his wall, trying to wreck our relationships with our allies, and who knows what's next when he comes across the next stupid conspiracy theory on our state media Breitbart. If Trump is actually guilty of treason and it can be shown then the GOP and will get massacred in 2018 and 2020.

[BanditHiro]

I honestly think Pence/Ryan are both way worse for America than Trump. Hopefully this leads to a complete meltdown of Trump's team, with Trump simply losing all credibility but staying in office as the biggest lame duck of all time, then getting kicked the fuck out in 2020.

If Trump is impeached any Republican who takes over albeit Pence and Ryan will already be lame ducks with Ryan being incredibly lame considering his Health Care bill is hated by everybody. The entire term would be an apology tour and keeping the seat warm til 2020

[baseline bum]

Really wish this was under 1800's practices. Steve Bannon getting put in front of a firing squad is something I'd ferociously jerk off to.

Getting Bannon out of Washington alone would be enough to make Pence a much better option than Trump.

[BanditHiro]

Really wish this was under 1800's practices. Steve Bannon getting put in front of a firing squad is something I'd ferociously jerk off to.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDO6HV6xTmI&

[djohn2oo8]

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That's Gold

[djohn2oo8]

We're getting more scalps, but I highly doubt we get those scalps. Paul Ryan would be so much worse than Trump. Pence would be awful too.

844733897049067521

we shall see

[djohn2oo8]

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[SnakeBoy]

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[TSA]

So Comey's just taking the DNC at their word?Confirmed on the ODNI portion.

https://www.wired.com/2017/01/fbi-says-democratic-party-wouldnt-let-agents-see-hacked-email-servers/

In its statement, the FBI agreed with the DNC’s implication that it had instead relied on data from Crowdstrike. But the Bureau points the finger for its lack of independent evaluation squarely at the DNC. According to the FBI official, “This left the FBI no choice but to rely upon a third party for information. These actions caused significant delays and inhibited the FBI from addressing the intrusion earlier.”

[TSA]

844728731252002816

I don't use this often but........ :lmao

[spurraider21]

One thing is for sure -- Dems and IC are ALL INwas trump ALL IN on obama being born in kenya?

[djohn2oo8]

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[Reck]

:lmao

This is why republicans rarely own the house and senate. They are the most incompetent and corrupt party ever.

:lol Nunez
:lol Cant even spell his own name right
:lol But my America :cry
:lmao TSA getting skulled fucked per par :lmao

[DarrinS]

So, the Russians hack of the DNC used a technique with low probability of success and made sure we knew it was them. In Comey's words, they were "unusually loud" as though they "wanted us to see what they were doing." And we are supposed to believe the Trump campaign wanted this?


I'm pretty sure more Americans have heard "grab 'em by the pussy" than have read Podesta emails. Do you think that illegally recorded and leaked conversation was intended to sway the election? Hillary even used it in her ads. And that was done by NBC.

Comey more powerful than J. Edgar Hoover now. :lol

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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Federally fucked

[djohn2oo8]

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[DarrinS]

How many tweets are you going to post that contain the same information?

[djohn2oo8]

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[Reck]

How many tweets are you going to post that contain the same information?

How many posts are you going to post trying to spin this major fuck up? :lol

[pgardn]

This is the problem with immediate news. It's done by people with an axe to grind and the overall analysis is very poor. It's not fit into any telling context. This is why waiting for the major papers with real investigative reporters to accurately depict the larger picture or pick one story specifically about one individual.

We have Manafort who has been paid by businesses in a foreign country. Yes he cannot be stupid enough to not know these large entities dont work without some sort of Kremlin ok, but, that's what we have got. We also have plenty of US citizens who work directly for Saudi oil concerns. They must know that some of that money is tied to funding terrorist camps yet they continue. We have banks who launder illegal money from foreign entities. And we know that some of these US citizens have very close ties or actively participate in our government. They all figure they are far enough removed from the source to not break any federal laws.

Anytime the US government creates sanctions against specific foreign money you know someone is willing to break the rules. It's just like drug dealing, only very white collar.

So no need to wonder why intelligence has so much power.

WE make rules. People with international ties and a bit of greed try to play the game. The more these people know about the rules, the better they are at sliding their white collar butts around them. American greed. You get next to pent up $ and the temptation wins. These are the middle man leeches.

[pgardn]

So, the Russians hack of the DNC used a technique with low probability of success and made sure we knew it was them. In Comey's words, they were "unusually loud" as though they "wanted us to see what they were doing." And we are supposed to believe the Trump campaign wanted this?


I'm pretty sure more Americans have heard "grab 'em by the pussy" than have read Podesta emails. Do you think that illegally recorded and leaked conversation was intended to sway the election? Hillary even used it in her ads. And that was done by NBC.

Comey more powerful than J. Edgar Hoover now. :lol

You got a business man in office with some international experience. He is gonna trust some people who play the game. We make rules to financially punish foreign entities, US citizens know this and are willing to break the rules, Intelligence becomes powerful.

[boutons_deux]

Here Is What Collusion Looks Like Between the Trump Campaign and the Russian Government

Chris Hayden of the Center for American progress sent out a list of what looks to be possible collusion points between the Trump campaign and the Russian government after the FBI Director James Comey said they were investigating whether there was any coordination between the campaign and Russia.Was there collusion between “individuals associated with the Trump campaign and the Russian government”?

Here is what we know:



April 2016: Paul Manafort discusses (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/trump-russia-manafort-235850) an “array of subjects related to the presidential campaign, including the hacking of the DNC’s emails” with Konstantin Kilimnik (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/paul-manafort-ukraine-kiev-russia-konstantin-kilimnik-227181), a Russian-Ukrainian political operative with ties to Russian intelligence.



June 15, 2016: NBC confirms (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/democratic-national-committee-breached-russian-hackers-n592061) the DNC has been hacked by “Russian government cyber operations.” Hours later, Trump issues a statement (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/donald-trump-opposition-224397) deflecting blame from Russia and claiming, “it was the DNC that did the ‘hacking.’”



July 7, 2016: Carter Page allegedly meets with (https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-s-intel-officials-probe-ties-between-trump-adviser-and-kremlin-175046002.html) Putin confidants Igor Sechin and Igor Divykin in Moscow, according to U.S. officials. Corey Lewandowski personally approved (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/carter-page-russia-trip-trump-corey-lewandowski-235784) Page’s travel and during his post-election trip to Moscow, Page says (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEmg4DNVFSE&feature=youtu.be&t=1620&app=desktop) he met with an “executive from Rosneft.”



July 11-15, 2016: Trump campaign successfully lobbies RNC to drop anti-Russia language in the party platform. A Republican delegate involved in the platform later confirms (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-ukraine-idUSKCN10M2MH) Trump’s campaign played a “direct role in softening the party’s support for Ukraine at a time of heightened tensions with Russia.”



July 20, 2016: Carter Page (https://thinkprogress.org/trump-lied-about-campaign-russian-contacts-9a3e8e464f63#.76pfprhcg), JD Gordon (https://thinkprogress.org/trump-lied-about-campaign-russian-contacts-9a3e8e464f63#.76pfprhcg), Michael Flynn (https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/02/us/politics/kushner-flynn-sessions-russia.html), and Jeff Sessions (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/sessions-spoke-twice-with-russian-ambassador-during-trumps-presidential-campaign-justice-officials-say/2017/03/01/77205eda-feac-11e6-99b4-9e613afeb09f_story.html) meet with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak at the Republican National Convention.
?

Putin spokesman (http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/12/politics/peskov-on-gps-cnntv/): “[Kislyak] was talking about what is going on in the United States so we have a better understanding in Moscow.”
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Russian Deputy Foreign Minister (http://www.interfax.ru/interview/536488): “There were contacts. We are doing this and have been doing this during the election campaign. Obviously, we know most of the people from [Trump’s] entourage.”




July 22, 2016: Two days later, WikiLeaks publishes the first batch of hacked emails from the DNC.



July 26, 2017: U.S. intel says with “high confidence” that Russia is behind hack of DNC emails.



July 27, 2016: One day later, Trump publicly encourages (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/27/donald-trump-basically-just-encouraged-russia-to-spy-on-hillary-clinton/) Russia to interfere in the election on his behalf and hack Clinton email accounts.



August 8, 2016: Roger Stone admits for the first time that he was in contact (https://mediamatters.org/video/2016/08/09/roger-stone-confirms-hes-communication-julian-assange/212261) with Julian Assange. He later admits (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/03/10/roger_stone_admits_twitter_dms_with_guccifer_2_0_a lleged_russian_hacker.html) to having direct conversations with the Kremlin-hacking alias Guccifer 2.0.





Sean Spicer today (https://twitter.com/johnjharwood/status/843888340025950209?refsrc=email&s=11): Trump and Stone “have talked from time to time but I don’t think recently.”




August 12, 2016: Guccifer 2.0 releases (https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/13/us/politics/democratic-party-documents-hack.html) personal information about Democratic candidates. Hours later, Guccier 2.0 tweets (http://thesmokinggun.com/file/roger-stone?page=2) a thank you to Stone.



August 21, 2016: Stone predicts (https://twitter.com/RogerJStoneJr/status/767366825743097856) the Podesta email hack – two months before WikiLeaks begins publishing the emails in October (https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/784491543868665856?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw).



August 24, 2016: Assange says WikiLeaks will not be releasing info (http://theweek.com/speedreads/645239/julian-assange-tells-megyn-kelly-why-wikileaks-isnt-releasing-dirt-donald-trump) on Trump.



October 7, 2016: Less than two hours after the Access Hollywood video is posted, WikiLeaks releases the first batch of Podesta emails.



October 11, 2016: Donald Trump Jr. speaks (https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-jr-held-talks-on-syria-with-russia-supporters-1479920753) at a dinner in Paris on U.S.-Russia cooperation in Syria. The event was organized by a pro-Russian think tank, which pays Trump Jr. at least $50,000 to attend.



December 2016: While the Obama Administration is considering sanctions against the Russian government, Flynn and Jared Kushner hold a private meeting (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/02/us/politics/kushner-flynn-sessions-russia.html?_r=0) with Kislyak at Trump Tower.



December 29, 2016: The U.S. announces sanctions on Russia in retaliation for election interference the same day Flynn reportedly holds at least five calls (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-idUSKBN14X1YX) with Kislyak.



December 30, 2016: Putin shocks foreign policy experts by announcing (https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/30/world/europe/russia-diplomats-us-hacking.html) he won’t retaliate against President Obama only hours after the Russian foreign minister recommended doing so. Instead, Putin say Russia will “plan our further steps to restore Russian-US relations based on the policies of the Trump Administration.” Several hours later, Trump tweets (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/814919370711461890): “Great move on delay (by V. Putin) – I always knew he was very smart!”


So… Yeah.Looking for collusion in all the wrong places, perhaps.

Because some of this occurred in plain sight.

It wasn’t all super secretive.

The actual events tell a story, and that story is not anti-collusion.

That story is not coincidence.

The story is connection.

That doesn’t mean we don’t need a smoking gun; we do.

But the story isn’t lying.

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/03/20/list-collusion-trump-campaign-russian-government.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

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and the white male supremacist NY faction of the FBI leaking to tranny Julie Annie

Giuliani says he was leaked information about emails days in advance of Comey letter


“You’re darn right I heard about it.”

https://thinkprogress.org/rudy-giuliani-fbi-leaks-trumpland-d5cc407ba79f#.p4r6vqpdi

American "democracy" :lol

"shining light on a hill" :lol

free and fair elections! :lol

America is fucked and unfuckable

[pgardn]

Here Is What Collusion Looks Like Between the Trump Campaign and the Russian Government

Chris Hayden of the Center for American progress sent out a list of what looks to be possible collusion points between the Trump campaign and the Russian government after the FBI Director James Comey said they were investigating whether there was any coordination between the campaign and Russia.Was there collusion between “individuals associated with the Trump campaign and the Russian government”?

Here is what we know:



April 2016: Paul Manafort discusses (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/trump-russia-manafort-235850) an “array of subjects related to the presidential campaign, including the hacking of the DNC’s emails” with Konstantin Kilimnik (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/paul-manafort-ukraine-kiev-russia-konstantin-kilimnik-227181), a Russian-Ukrainian political operative with ties to Russian intelligence.



June 15, 2016: NBC confirms (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/democratic-national-committee-breached-russian-hackers-n592061) the DNC has been hacked by “Russian government cyber operations.” Hours later, Trump issues a statement (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/donald-trump-opposition-224397) deflecting blame from Russia and claiming, “it was the DNC that did the ‘hacking.’”



July 7, 2016: Carter Page allegedly meets with (https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-s-intel-officials-probe-ties-between-trump-adviser-and-kremlin-175046002.html) Putin confidants Igor Sechin and Igor Divykin in Moscow, according to U.S. officials. Corey Lewandowski personally approved (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/carter-page-russia-trip-trump-corey-lewandowski-235784) Page’s travel and during his post-election trip to Moscow, Page says (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEmg4DNVFSE&feature=youtu.be&t=1620&app=desktop) he met with an “executive from Rosneft.”



July 11-15, 2016: Trump campaign successfully lobbies RNC to drop anti-Russia language in the party platform. A Republican delegate involved in the platform later confirms (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-ukraine-idUSKCN10M2MH) Trump’s campaign played a “direct role in softening the party’s support for Ukraine at a time of heightened tensions with Russia.”



July 20, 2016: Carter Page (https://thinkprogress.org/trump-lied-about-campaign-russian-contacts-9a3e8e464f63#.76pfprhcg), JD Gordon (https://thinkprogress.org/trump-lied-about-campaign-russian-contacts-9a3e8e464f63#.76pfprhcg), Michael Flynn (https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/02/us/politics/kushner-flynn-sessions-russia.html), and Jeff Sessions (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/sessions-spoke-twice-with-russian-ambassador-during-trumps-presidential-campaign-justice-officials-say/2017/03/01/77205eda-feac-11e6-99b4-9e613afeb09f_story.html) meet with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak at the Republican National Convention.
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Putin spokesman (http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/12/politics/peskov-on-gps-cnntv/): “[Kislyak] was talking about what is going on in the United States so we have a better understanding in Moscow.”
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Russian Deputy Foreign Minister (http://www.interfax.ru/interview/536488): “There were contacts. We are doing this and have been doing this during the election campaign. Obviously, we know most of the people from [Trump’s] entourage.”




July 22, 2016: Two days later, WikiLeaks publishes the first batch of hacked emails from the DNC.



July 26, 2017: U.S. intel says with “high confidence” that Russia is behind hack of DNC emails.



July 27, 2016: One day later, Trump publicly encourages (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/27/donald-trump-basically-just-encouraged-russia-to-spy-on-hillary-clinton/) Russia to interfere in the election on his behalf and hack Clinton email accounts.



August 8, 2016: Roger Stone admits for the first time that he was in contact (https://mediamatters.org/video/2016/08/09/roger-stone-confirms-hes-communication-julian-assange/212261) with Julian Assange. He later admits (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/03/10/roger_stone_admits_twitter_dms_with_guccifer_2_0_a lleged_russian_hacker.html) to having direct conversations with the Kremlin-hacking alias Guccifer 2.0.





Sean Spicer today (https://twitter.com/johnjharwood/status/843888340025950209?refsrc=email&s=11): Trump and Stone “have talked from time to time but I don’t think recently.”




August 12, 2016: Guccifer 2.0 releases (https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/13/us/politics/democratic-party-documents-hack.html) personal information about Democratic candidates. Hours later, Guccier 2.0 tweets (http://thesmokinggun.com/file/roger-stone?page=2) a thank you to Stone.



August 21, 2016: Stone predicts (https://twitter.com/RogerJStoneJr/status/767366825743097856) the Podesta email hack – two months before WikiLeaks begins publishing the emails in October (https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/784491543868665856?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw).



August 24, 2016: Assange says WikiLeaks will not be releasing info (http://theweek.com/speedreads/645239/julian-assange-tells-megyn-kelly-why-wikileaks-isnt-releasing-dirt-donald-trump) on Trump.



October 7, 2016: Less than two hours after the Access Hollywood video is posted, WikiLeaks releases the first batch of Podesta emails.



October 11, 2016: Donald Trump Jr. speaks (https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-jr-held-talks-on-syria-with-russia-supporters-1479920753) at a dinner in Paris on U.S.-Russia cooperation in Syria. The event was organized by a pro-Russian think tank, which pays Trump Jr. at least $50,000 to attend.



December 2016: While the Obama Administration is considering sanctions against the Russian government, Flynn and Jared Kushner hold a private meeting (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/02/us/politics/kushner-flynn-sessions-russia.html?_r=0) with Kislyak at Trump Tower.



December 29, 2016: The U.S. announces sanctions on Russia in retaliation for election interference the same day Flynn reportedly holds at least five calls (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-idUSKBN14X1YX) with Kislyak.



December 30, 2016: Putin shocks foreign policy experts by announcing (https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/30/world/europe/russia-diplomats-us-hacking.html) he won’t retaliate against President Obama only hours after the Russian foreign minister recommended doing so. Instead, Putin say Russia will “plan our further steps to restore Russian-US relations based on the policies of the Trump Administration.” Several hours later, Trump tweets (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/814919370711461890): “Great move on delay (by V. Putin) – I always knew he was very smart!”


So… Yeah.Looking for collusion in all the wrong places, perhaps.

Because some of this occurred in plain sight.

It wasn’t all super secretive.

The actual events tell a story, and that story is not anti-collusion.

That story is not coincidence.

The story is connection.

That doesn’t mean we don’t need a smoking gun; we do.

But the story isn’t lying.

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/03/20/list-collusion-trump-campaign-russian-government.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

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and the white male supremacist NY faction of the FBI leaking to tranny Julie Annie

Giuliani says he was leaked information about emails days in advance of Comey letter


“You’re darn right I heard about it.”

https://thinkprogress.org/rudy-giuliani-fbi-leaks-trumpland-d5cc407ba79f#.p4r6vqpdi

American "democracy" :lol

"shining light on a hill" :lol

free and fair elections! :lol

America is fucked and unfuckable



Yet you are able to blather on with no fear of retribution.

[boutons_deux]

Yet you are able to blather on with no fear of retribution.

...and you blather about me, not the topic

G F Y and your inane takes

[TSA]

:lmao

This is why republicans rarely own the house and senate. They are the most incompetent and corrupt party ever.

:lol Nunez
:lol Cant even spell his own name right
:lol But my America :cry
:lmao TSA getting skulled fucked per par :lmao

What does it feel like to wake up every morning thinking of me?

[Reck]

What does it feel like to wake up every morning thinking of me?

I didn't.

I saw all those posts of you semen shielding and failing hard. It had me rolling.
You're one dumb fuck. :lol

[TSA]

How many tweets are you going to post that contain the same information?

but 2 out of 4 have different pictures!

[TSA]

I didn't. but you did.


I saw all those posts of you semen shielding and failing hard. It had me rolling.
You're one dumb fuck. :lol

I'm going to give you an opportunity here to try and save some face. Explain what you mean by failing hard, be as specific as you can. If you pass on this opportunity to defend your claim you will come off a giant pussy.

[Reck]

but you did.



I'm going to give you an opportunity here to try and save some face. Explain what you mean by failing hard, be as specific as you can. If you pass on this opportunity to defend your claim you will come off a giant pussy.

You're going to tell me what I did and didn't do? :lol rich.

And I know you like to be hand holded through every post and I won't play that game but people can read you know. You got completely shat on from page 72 on swiftly.

It's what happens when you put yourself in a position that is lose/lose.

:lol still defending Trump's wiretapping claims
:lol defending nunez questionable partisan move
:lol now looking like an idiot when he has to apologize for doing so (Nunez)
:lol being you

[TSA]

You're going to tell me what I did and didn't do? :lol rich.

And I know you like to be hand holded through every post and I won't play that game but people can read you know. You got completely shat on from page 72 on swiftly.

It's what happens when you put yourself in a position that is lose/lose.

:lol still defending Trump's wiretapping claims
:lol defending nunez questionable partisan move
:lol now looking like an idiot when he has to apologize for doing so (Nunez)
:lol being you

You woke up this morning logged on to Spurstalk and made your first post about me. This isn't the first time you've done it and it won't be the last. It's somewhat flattering I guess.

You laugh about Trump's wiretapping claim...was he under surveillance yes or no?

[Reck]

You woke up this morning logged on to Spurstalk and made your first post about me. This isn't the first time you've done it and it won't be the last. It's somewhat flattering I guess.

You laugh about Trump's wiretapping claim...was he under surveillance yes or no?

I see you moved the goalpost again from Obama..or his administration had Trump under surveillance to generally was under surveillance. lmao

Viewing being shit on daily as flattering. :lol

[AaronY]

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[TSA]

I see you moved the goalpost again from Obama..or his administration had Trump under surveillance to generally was under surveillance. lmao

Viewing being shit on daily as flattering. :lol

In order for the goalpost to have been moved that would have to have been my original position, it never was. You still struggle with the most commonly used Spurstalk terms; goalpost move, cuck, meltdown etc.

I asked you a straightforward question, was Trump under surveillance during the Obama administration yes or no?

[clambake]

it would be awesome if obama wiretapped him.

thats gangsta.

[Reck]

In order for the goalpost to have been moved that would have to have been my original position, it never was. You still struggle with the most commonly used Spurstalk terms; goalpost move, cuck, meltdown etc.

I asked you a straightforward question, was Trump under surveillance during the Obama administration yes or no?

Are you kidding right now? The fact that Obama or his administration wiretapped Trump wasn't your original position? :lmao

Then what was it? It couldn't have been that the brits were the ones because that talking point wasn't new till 2 weeks after. There isn't anyway that your initial possition wasn't that Obama did it. It was.

Be happy for something at least though. You're one of the 19% that believe anything Trump says like a good sheep.

[baseline bum]

844753118688677888

Surprising?

http://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2016_32/1661471/-barack_obama_was_born_in_the_united_states-_republicans_democrats_chartbuilder_4b7439d88c759b c84f7276552e692fde.nbcnews-ux-600-480.png

[TSA]

Are you kidding right now? The fact that Obama or his administration wiretapped Trump wasn't your original position? :lmao

Then what was it? It couldn't have been that the brits were the ones because that talking point wasn't new till 2 weeks after. There isn't anyway that your initial possition wasn't that Obama did it. It was.

Be happy for something at least though. You're one of the 19% that believe anything Trump says like a good sheep.

You are more then welcome to comb through all my posts and try to prove me wrong but I'll save you the time, that was never my position.


Try not to dodge the question a third time pussy. Was Trump under surveillance during the Obama administration yes or no?

[clambake]

You are more then welcome to comb through all my posts and try to prove me wrong but I'll save you the time, that was never my position.


Try not to dodge the question a third time pussy. Was Trump under surveillance during the Obama administration yes or no?

yes.

and trump conspired with russians.

[boutons_deux]

it would be awesome if obama wiretapped him.

thats gangsta.

the wiretapping probable cause could have been Trash's money laundering through his real estate sales at inflated to Russian mafia oligarchy, not the queering of the election.

[boutons_deux]

GWB White House lawyer: 'FBI uncovering evidence of treason. There is no other word for it' (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/3/23/1646393/-GWB-White-House-lawyer-FBI-uncovering-evidence-of-treason-There-is-no-other-word-for-it)

https://twitter.com/RWPUSA/status/844760167845548032?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailykos.com%2Fstory%2F20 17%2F3%2F23%2F1646393%2F-GWB-White-House-lawyer-FBI-uncovering-evidence-of-treason-There-is-no-other-word-for-it

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/3/22/1646036/-Manafort-s-Daughter-s-Hacked-Texts-That-money-we-have-is-blood-money?detail=email&link_id=2&can_id=4217e8eb109c68bd0c2e4143dd2d8c15&source=email-unanimous-supreme-court-overturns-a-gorsuch-decision-in-the-middle-of-his-confirmation-hearing-2&email_referrer=unanimous-supreme-court-overturns-a-gorsuch-decision-in-the-middle-of-his-confirmation-hearing-2&email_subject=unanimous-supreme-court-overturns-a-gorsuch-decision-in-the-middle-of-his-confirmation-hearing

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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Gotdayum!!!

[djohn2oo8]

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:lol TSA

[boutons_deux]

[/tweet]
:lol TSA

... been like that FOREVER :lol

[boutons_deux]

Congressman says we may have an 'illegitimate president,' calls for immediate halt of Trump agenda (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/3/23/1646434/-Congressman-says-we-may-have-an-illegitimate-president-calls-for-immediate-halt-of-Trump-agenda)

REP. LIEU STATEMENT ON REPORT OF TRUMP ASSOCIATES’ POSSIBLE COLLUSION WITH RUSSIA

March 23, 2017

Press Release

Washington – Today, Congressman Ted W. Lieu (D | Los Angeles County) issued the following statement regarding the CNN report that Trump associates possibly colluded (http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/22/politics/us-officials-info-suggests-trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians/index.html) with Russia to affect the outcome of the 2016 election in the United States.

“The bombshell revelation that U.S. officials have information that suggests Trump associates may have colluded with the Russians means we must pause the entire Trump agenda.

We may have an illegitimate President of the United States currently occupying the White House.”

“Other than allowing routine governmental functions, there must be a total and complete shutdown of any agenda item being pushed by the Trump Administration.

Congress cannot continue regular order and must stop voting on any Trump-backed agenda item until the FBI completes its Trump-Russia collusion investigation.”

“Congress must immediately form an independent commission and appoint a special prosecutor to investigate the collusion allegations with impartiality and independence.

Congress also needs to pass the Resolution of Inquiry (https://lieu.house.gov/sites/lieu.house.gov/files/JEFFRIES-LIEU%20RESOLUTION.pdf), authored by Rep. Hakeem Jeffries and I, to compel the Trump Administration to publicly disclose information on its Russian ties to the American people.

At this point in our nation's history, there is nothing more important than finding out whether or not high crimes were committed by associates of Donald Trump or possibly by Trump himself.”

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/3/23/1646434/-Congressman-says-we-may-have-an-illegitimate-president-calls-for-immediate-halt-of-Trump-agenda

OF COURSE, TRASH IS FUCKIN ILLEGIT.

ELECTED in a STOLEN ELECTION BY POOTIN STOOGE ASSANGE and REPUG COMEY (and who knows, yet, who else?)

[TSA]

844935525853249537
:lol TSA

“I want to be clear — none of this surveillance was related to Russia or the investigation of Russian activities or of the Trump team,”

Why would Nunes go to the Russia committee with information that had nothing to do with Russia? Try to use your own words to answer the question and not another tweet.

[TSA]

[SIZE=3][FONT=arial]Washington – Today, Congressman Ted W. Lieu (D | Los Angeles County) issued the following statement regarding the CNN report that Trump associates possibly colluded (http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/22/politics/us-officials-info-suggests-trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians/index.html) with Russia to affect the outcome of the 2016 election in the United States.

“The bombshell revelation that U.S. officials have information that suggests Trump associates may have colluded with the Russians means we must pause the entire Trump agenda.



844734289640009728

[Reck]

You are more then welcome to comb through all my posts and try to prove me wrong but I'll save you the time, that was never my position.


Try not to dodge the question a third time pussy. Was Trump under surveillance during the Obama administration yes or no?

You're a lifetime loser.

Obama nor his administration had him wiretapped.

[TSA]

You're a lifetime loser.

Obama nor his administration had him wiretapped.

You're a lifetime welsher and now a pussy for dodging my direct question. Don't dodge a fourth time.

Was Trump under surveillance during the Obama administration yes or no?

[Reck]

You're a lifetime welsher and now a pussy for dodging my direct question. Don't dodge a fourth time.

Was Trump under surveillance during the Obama administration yes or no?

You're the one posting under the same name you lost on. :lol welcher

And I answered your question already. You can even read it on that quote. :lol cant read

[TSA]

You're a lifetime loser.

Obama nor his administration had him wiretapped.

"You are more then welcome to comb through all my posts and try to prove me wrong"

Unsurprisingly you didn't even attempt to back your claim. Have you ever backed a claim here? It seems when confronted you either disappear or dump a bunch of emojis.

[Reck]

"You are more then welcome to comb through all my posts and try to prove me wrong"

Unsurprisingly you didn't even attempt to back your claim. Have you ever backed a claim here? It seems when confronted you either disappear or dump a bunch of emojis.

LOL backpedalling.

Why would I comb through any of your shit posting history? 99.9% of them are far fetch pizza and pedo conspiracies.

[TSA]

You're the one posting under the same name you lost on. :lol welcher I lost TheSanityAnnex account. In what world is TheSanityAnnex the same name as TSA?

You lost the bet on the Reck and you are posting on the name Reck. That is a welsh you stupid fuck.


And I answered your question already. You can even read it on that quote. :lol cant readDo you know how stupid you look when you " :lol can't read " and the entire board can see it's you who can't read?

You did not answer the question as I didn't ask if Obama or his administration wiretapped Trump.

Try reading this really slow and answering again, or deflect a fifth time like a pussy.

Was Trump under surveillance during the Obama administration yes or no?

[TSA]

LOL backpedalling.

Why would I comb through any of your shit posting history? 99.9% of them are far fetch pizza and pedo conspiracies.

What you are doing right now is called back pedaling. You made a claim and are now making excuses when asked to prove it.

Adding back pedaling to the list of common Spurstalk terms you don't know how to use.

[Reck]

I lost TheSanityAnnex account. In what world is TheSanityAnnex the same name as TSA?

You lost the bet on the Reck and you are posting on the name Reck. That is a welsh you stupid fuck.

Do you know how stupid you look when you " :lol can't read " and the entire board can see it's you who can't read?

You did not answer the question as I didn't ask if Obama or his administration wiretapped Trump.

Try reading this really slow and answering again, or deflect a fifth time like a pussy.

Was Trump under surveillance during the Obama administration yes or no?

TSA=TheSanityAnnex

I didn't lost any bets I made with you. And even if not I dont respect you to honor it. You're ST's toilet.

And you're generalizing now. It's either Obama or his administration wiretapped him as he claim or nothing. Saying that he was under surveillance during the Obama administration means jigly squat.

That's like saying, hey do you think the Clinton's killed anyone during the last administration?

Put a name to your claim. Trump wasn't wiretapped, being watched or anything of the such by the Obama administration. Fact


Oh and :lol entire board.

[Reck]

Adam Schiff says he's seeing Non-circumstantial evidence of Russian collusion. :lol

[TSA]

TSA=TheSanityAnnex

I didn't lost any bets I made with you. And even if not I dont respect you to honor it. You're ST's toilet.

And you're generalizing now. It's either Obama or his administration wiretapped him as he claim or nothing. Saying that he was under surveillance during the Obama administration means jigly squat.

That's like saying, hey do you think the Clinton's killed anyone during the last administration?

Put a name to your claim. Trump wasn't wiretapped, being watched or anything of the such by the Obama administration. Fact


Oh and :lol entire board.

I've finally reached the point where I've realized you are just too dumb and dishonest to even attempt to converse with. I can deal with dumb but there is no point in continuing on with a liar.

[Reck]

I've finally reached the point where I've realized you are just too dumb and dishonest to even attempt to converse with. I can deal with dumb but there is no point in continuing on with a liar.

Spinning. :lol

[boutons_deux]

Yet another Pootin opponent murdered, outside of Russia. Coming to Trash's America, sooner or later.

Gunman in Ukraine kills Putin foe in attack denounced as ‘state terrorism’

KIEV — A former Russian member of parliament who defected to Ukraine and began sharply criticizing Russian President Vladimir Putin was gunned down Thursday in downtown Kiev in an apparent contract killing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/gunman-in-ukraine-kills-putin-foe-in-attack-denounced-as-state-terrorism/2017/03/23/72ddd20e-0fc7-11e7-ab07-07d9f521f6b5_story.html?utm_term=.e551a5cdff1a

[djohn2oo8]

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Spin this shit :lmao

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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My bad Tsa. Priebus gonna get charged with something WORSE than obstruction :lol

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[TSA]

845030734976991233

My bad Tsa. Priebus gonna get charged with something WORSE than obstruction :lol

You may want to start actually reading the articles the tweet tards link to before commenting as you always end up looking foolish. The Politico article doesn't contain anything shocking in it like the tweet tard headlines suggest.

Republicans paid a firm to find dirt on Clinton.
Democrats paid Christopher Steele to find dirt on Trump.
OMG politics

None of this is breaking news regardless of how many tweet tards post the same story with a different picture.

What exactly is Priebus going to be charged with now? Have you already given up on Priebus being charged with obstruction of justice? :lol

[djohn2oo8]

845027398638862336

[djohn2oo8]

Good God is TSA melting down. RNC ran interference on an election. Moron :lmao

[Reck]

You may want to start actually reading the articles the tweet tards link to before commenting as you always end up looking foolish.

This coming from the guy who lost to him on a retarded bet. :lmao

[djohn2oo8]

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The RNC now has ties to Russia

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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:lmao Manafort lives in Trump Tower

[djohn2oo8]

Holy Shit did Nunes get played.

[Reck]

Holy Shit did Nunes get played.

Trying to curry favor of a president who's ultimately going down. :lol

[TSA]

Good God is TSA melting down. RNC ran interference on an election. Moron :lmao

Paying for opposition research is not running interference on an election.

But if you want to incorrectly call it that fine, explain how Democrats paying Christopher Steele for opposition research is any different.

[djohn2oo8]

Trying to curry favor of a president who's ultimately going down. :lol

845042745211326465

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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CROFL Nunes

[djohn2oo8]

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:lol

[TSA]

:lol avoiding the question and trying to bury it on another page with a carpet bomb of tweets

[spurraider21]

Spicey does have a point regarding vague "association" claims although he's clearly sweating

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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:lol

[TSA]

845045797444096001

"may"
"may not"
"I think"
"possible"
"suspected"
"would not verify"
"not conclusive"

Excellent journalism CNN

[TSA]

Spicey does have a point regarding vague "association" claims although he's clearly sweating

I have a problem with specifically -- with what your network did yesterday," Spicer told CNN's Sara Murray in a lengthy exchange at the White House press briefing. "It was associates that may or may not be there -- all one subjective term after another with no concrete proof that anything happened. When you use a term like 'associates,' you don't even put a timeframe around. It's a little bit nebulous, at best, to suggest that somebody over and over again, making the claim that you do, and the narrative continues without any substantiation."

[djohn2oo8]

TSA meltdown continues.

[TSA]

TSA meltdown continues.

Paying for opposition research is not running interference on an election.

But if you want to incorrectly call it that fine, explain how Democrats paying Christopher Steele for opposition research is any different.

[Clipper Nation]

Is that why NYT had her write for them?
The NYT had Jayson Blair writing for them for years, too :lol

[boutons_deux]

did Steele use Pootin's spies as sources?

is the Dem party and operatives treasonously, multiply connected to Pootin?

false equivalence and "my defense of bad Repugs is that Dems are just as bad" bullshit

[pgardn]

:lol avoiding the question

Did Obama directly ask survelliance on Trump Tower phone lines as asserted by our president?

Did 3 million voters illegally vote for Hillary Clinton in presidential election as asserted by our president?


They play the same frkn game you do. How can you possibly criticize someone else for doing EXACTLY the same thing you do? Have you no shame sir?

[TSA]

Did Obama directly ask survelliance on Trump Tower phone lines as asserted by our president?

Did 3 million voters illegally vote for Hillary Clinton in presidential election as asserted by our president?


They play the same frkn game you do. How can you possibly criticize someone else for doing EXACTLY the same thing you do? Have you no shame sir?

I don't play games sir and I don't avoid answering questions.

Did 3 million voters illegally vote for Hillary Clinton in presidential election as asserted by our president?
No

Did Obama directly ask survelliance on Trump Tower phone lines as asserted by our president?
No

Your turn sir, no games please.



Was Trump under surveillance during the Obama Presidency?

Could Obama order a foreigner under surveillance with no court order fully knowing Donald Trump's communications would also be intercepted?

Do you know the laws regarding unmasking a USP?

[spurraider21]

I don't play games sir and I don't avoid answering questions.

Did 3 million voters illegally vote for Hillary Clinton in presidential election as asserted by our president?
No

Did Obama directly ask survelliance on Trump Tower phone lines as asserted by our president?
No

Your turn sir, no games please.



Was Trump under surveillance during the Obama Presidency?

Could Obama order a foreigner under surveillance with no court order fully knowing Donald Trump's communications would also be intercepted?

Do you know the laws regarding unmasking a USP?1. was trump under surveillance during the obama presidency?

depends on semantics. they they get swept up as part of surveillance on russian nationals? or were they targeted to be surveilled? those are different questions tbh, and it's misleading to conflate them imo

2. could obama order a foreigner under surveillance with no court order fully knowing donald trump's communications would also be intercepted?

no. this was cleared up when you had your ELE with djohn. the president could only unilaterally order surveillance of communications BETWEEN foreigners. if one end of the communication is an american national, its a no-go. specifically...


(a)(1) Notwithstanding any other law, the President, through the Attorney General, may authorize electronic surveillance without a court order under this subchapter to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year if the Attorney General certifies in writing under oath that—(A) the electronic surveillance is solely directed at—
(i) the acquisition of the contents of communications transmitted by means of communications used exclusively between or among foreign powers, as defined in section 1801(a)(1), (2), or (3) of this title; or
(ii) the acquisition of technical intelligence, other than the spoken communications of individuals, from property or premises under the open and exclusive control of a foreign power, as defined in section 1801(a)(1), (2), or (3) of this title;

(B) there is no substantial likelihood that the surveillance will acquire the contents of any communication to which a United States person is a party; and
(C) the proposed minimization procedures with respect to such surveillance meet the definition of minimization procedures under section 1801(h) of this title; and

so if they KNEW trump would be surveilled, then it fails subsection B

3. do you know the laws regarding unmasking a usp?

i'm not very well versed in it, tbh

[pgardn]

I don't play games sir and I don't avoid answering questions.

Did 3 million voters illegally vote for Hillary Clinton in presidential election as asserted by our president?
No

Did Obama directly ask survelliance on Trump Tower phone lines as asserted by our president?
No

Your turn sir, no games please.



Was Trump under surveillance during the Obama Presidency?

Could Obama order a foreigner under surveillance with no court order fully knowing Donald Trump's communications would also be intercepted?

Do you know the laws regarding unmasking a USP?

Yep. You have any sort of relationship with Russians with $ that's gonna happen. It has most likely happened to my Uncle as well.


The next is ridiculous. Could...

[Reck]

1. was trump under surveillance during the obama presidency?

depends on semantics. they they get swept up as part of surveillance on russian nationals? or were they targeted to be surveilled? those are different questions tbh, and it's misleading to conflate them imo

I tried to explained this to him earlier and he accused me of dodging the question. lol

At best he's generalizing the question to sound as if other parties had him surveillanced during the Obama years and if it turned out that someone outside of his admin did he can claim, HAH I was right!

[TSA]

Yep. You have any sort of relationship with Russians with $ that's gonna happen. It has most likely happened to my Uncle as well.


According to you then Hillary Clinton must have also been under surveillance for her associates Guistra and Podesta both had lots of relationships with Russians with $

[pgardn]

According to you then Hillary Clinton must have also been under surveillance for her associates Guistra and Podesta both had lots of relationships with Russians with $

Absolutely if she met with those associates. And especially if they were rich with Vlad's blessing.

[TSA]

1. was trump under surveillance during the obama presidency?

depends on semantics. they they get swept up as part of surveillance on russian nationals? or were they targeted to be surveilled? those are different questions tbh, and it's misleading to conflate them imo

2. could obama order a foreigner under surveillance with no court order fully knowing donald trump's communications would also be intercepted?

no. this was cleared up when you had your ELE with djohn. the president could only unilaterally order surveillance of communications BETWEEN foreigners. if one end of the communication is an american national, its a no-go. specifically...



so if they KNEW trump would be surveilled, then it fails subsection B

3. do you know the laws regarding unmasking a usp?

i'm not very well versed in it, tbh

1. A person could be targeted for surveillance under the guise of being swept up with Russian nationals.

2. Who has oversight to make sure section B doesn't happen?

3. I'm not well versed either but do know the procedures for unmasking a USP are extrememly strict and in the case of Flynn and whatever other USP's were unmasked minimalization procedures were not followed and multiple felonies were committed with the dissemination of their conversations and names.


I find it funny people think that the Obama administration spying on Donald Trump is some crazy conspiracy theory that could never happen when this same administration got caught spying on pretty much all of it's closest allies leaders.

[TSA]

Absolutely if she met with those associates. And especially if they were rich with Vlad's blessing.



According to you we have now established that both Trump and Clinton were under surveillance by the US government for their associates ties to Russian $

Why was intel gathered from US surveillance only leaked on one candidate?

[AaronY]

Is that why NYT had her write for them?
And regretted it later
843304384016584704

https://www.buzzfeed.com/stevenperlberg/russia-critic-sparks-feud-at-the-new-york-times

[spurraider21]

1. A person could be targeted for surveillance under the guise of being swept up with Russian nationals.

2. Who has oversight to make sure section B doesn't happen?

3. I'm not well versed either but do know the procedures for unmasking a USP are extrememly strict and in the case of Flynn and whatever other USP's were unmasked minimalization procedures were not followed and multiple felonies were committed with the dissemination of their conversations and names.


I find it funny people think that the Obama administration spying on Donald Trump is some crazy conspiracy theory that could never happen when this same administration got caught spying on pretty much all of it's closest allies leaders.1. lol could

2. the agencies that actually perform the surveillance. and there are paper trails for requests that could be reviewed by the DOJ, etc

3. cool


so basically you have a bunch of conjecture of what "could" happen. i mean, by this standard, we can muster up a billion conspiracies a day. trump could be surveilling obama right now. he could be surveilling you. lets have investigations. chop chop

[AaronY]

1. lol could

2. the agencies that actually perform the surveillance. and there are paper trails for requests that could be reviewed by the DOJ, etc

3. cool


so basically you have a bunch of conjecture of what "could" happen. i mean, by this standard, we can muster up a billion conspiracies a day. trump could be surveilling obama right now. he could be surveilling you. lets have investigations. chop chop
Trump and Obama could secretly be working together too imo

[pgardn]

According to you we have now established that both Trump and Clinton were under surveillance by the US government for their associates ties to Russian $

Why was intel gathered from US surveillance only leaked on one candidate?

Because that candidate actually went to Russia on numerous occasions and most likely met many more people. That candidate admitted himself, BEFORE he was even a candidate, that he wanted to meet Putin. Who do you talk to to meet Putin. Furthermore that citizen/candidate had expressed admiration for one of the most powerful thugs on the planet.

Firthermore once a candidate, Donald hired and fired a number of people who are self interested egomaniacs who are much more likely to backstab. Some lied right to his face, AFTER he was voted in!

Holy shit... Cmon now...

[Monostradamus]

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[Monostradamus]

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[TSA]

TSA meltdown continues.We are about to witness Spurstalk's all time greatest meltdown. Prepare your anus djohn, the NSA is about to go in raw.

Potential 'smoking gun' showing Obama administration spied on Trump team, source says

Republican congressional investigators expect a potential “smoking gun” establishing that the Obama administration spied on the Trump transition team, and possibly the president-elect himself, will be produced to the House Intelligence Committee this week, a source told Fox News.

Classified intelligence showing incidental collection of Trump team communications, purportedly seen by committee Chairman Devin Nunes, R-Calif., and described by him in vague terms at a bombshell Wednesday afternoon news conference, came from multiple sources, Capitol Hill sources told Fox News. The intelligence corroborated information about surveillance of the Trump team that was known to Nunes, sources said, even before President Trump accused his predecessor of having wiretappedhim in a series of now-infamous tweets posted on March 4.

The intelligence is said to leave no doubt the Obama administration, in its closing days, was using the cover of legitimate surveillance on foreign targets to spy on President-elect Trump, according to sources.

The key to that conclusion is the unmasking of selected U.S. persons whose names appeared in the intelligence, the sources said, adding that the paper trail leaves no other plausible purpose for the unmasking other than to damage the incoming Trump administration.

The FBI hasn’t been responsive to the House Intelligence Committee’s request for documents, but the National Security Agency is expected to produce documents to the committee by Friday. The NSA document production is expected to produce more intelligence than Nunes has so far seen or described – including what one source described as a potential “smoking gun” establishing the spying.

Some time will be needed to properly assess the materials, with the likely result being that congressional investigators and attorneys won’t have a solid handle on the contents of the documents – and their implications – until next week.

Because Nunes’s intelligence came from multiple sources during a span of several weeks, and he has not shared the actual materials with his committee colleagues, he will be the only member of the panel in a position to know whether the NSA has turned over some or all of the intelligence he is citing. However, Fox News was told Intelligence Committee Ranking Member Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., had been briefed on the basic contents of the intelligence described by Nunes.

CIA Director Mike Pompeo is also sympathetic to the effort to determine, with documentary evidence, the extent of any alleged Obama administration spying on the Trump team, sources said.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/23/potential-smoking-gun-showing-obama-administration-spied-on-trump-team-source-says.html

[spurraider21]

:cry anonymous sources

[BanditHiro]

irrelevant article now that Nunes has retracted a lot of what he said. I love how fox is trying to make it seem like lawful surveillance during an investigation is somehow supposed to be bad

[Reck]

Shades of pizzagate. TSA is all giddy for nothing.

That article is useless in many aspects. Not only is it old news, Nunez himself said nothing illegal happened. That it was all actually legal and had nothing to do with Russian or wiretapping.

[AaronY]

We are about to witness Spurstalk's all time greatest meltdown.
You made a 500 page thread about pizzagate.

[spurraider21]

:lol nonstop whining about illegal leaks instead of worrying about content
:lol shitting on donna brazille for complaining about illegal leaks instead of worrying about content

[boutons_deux]

Lawyer For Russian Whistleblower’s Family Falls From Building One Day Before Hearing

Nikolai Gorokhov represents the family of Sergei Magnitsky, who died after exposing tax fraud by Russian officials.

A Moscow lawyer who represents the family of a now-deceased Russian whistleblower was severely injured Tuesday after falling several stories, just one day before he was scheduled to appear in court.

The lawyer, Nikolai Gorokhov, represents the family of Sergei Magnitsky, another Russian attorney who mysteriously died in custody in Moscow in 2009 after accusing law enforcement and tax officials of a massive fraud worth $230 million.

Magnitsky’s death sparked international outrage and led to U.S. legislation in 2012 imposing sanctions on several Russian officials.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/nikolai-gorokhov-injured-sergei-magnitsky_us_58d1a29be4b0f838c62d9023?&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=The%20Morning%20Email%20032417&utm_content=The%20Morning%20Email%20032417+CID_59f a47f77e837c63252fce046a55d472&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=fell%20several%20stories&

[Spurminator]

At this point it's just more unnamed "sources".


Link with named source


Who names their sources in an article?


People with verifiable information

[Spurminator]

The chairman of the House intelligence committee has backed down from his dramatic assertion that Donald Trump and his aides were "monitored," by U.S. spies — a claim the Republicans have cited this week in fundraising emails.

Rep. Devin Nunes told reporters Friday he can't be sure whether conversations among Trump or his aides were captured in the surveillance that has become a source of controversy since Nunes made it public in two news conferences this week.


"He said he'll have to get all the documents he requested from the (intelligence community) about this before he knows for sure," his spokesman, Jack Langer, said earlier.


Nunes continued to refuse to say how he had learned about the surveillance, including whether his source was in the White House.


Langer asserted that Nunes did not explicitly say Trump was spied on when he briefed reporters Wednesday that he was "very concerned," that "the intelligence community incidentally collected information about American citizens involved in the Trump transition."


As for Trump's assertion that Obama wiretapped him, Nunes repeated Friday what he has said previously, telling reporters, "That didn't happen."

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/nunes-backs-down-assertion-trump-was-monitored-n738151

[boutons_deux]

Nunes, elected for ideological purity, is another Repug asshole out of his depth, not interested in governing, but only in ALL POLITICS ALL THE TIME.

He had huge, Constitutional responsibility to the American people, but they come second, if that high, to Repug politicking.

[clambake]

We are about to witness Spurstalk's all time greatest meltdown. Prepare your anus djohn, the NSA is about to go in raw.

Potential 'smoking gun' showing Obama administration spied on Trump team, source says

Republican congressional investigators expect a potential “smoking gun” establishing that the Obama administration spied on the Trump transition team, and possibly the president-elect himself, will be produced to the House Intelligence Committee this week, a source told Fox News.

Classified intelligence showing incidental collection of Trump team communications, purportedly seen by committee Chairman Devin Nunes, R-Calif., and described by him in vague terms at a bombshell Wednesday afternoon news conference, came from multiple sources, Capitol Hill sources told Fox News. The intelligence corroborated information about surveillance of the Trump team that was known to Nunes, sources said, even before President Trump accused his predecessor of having wiretappedhim in a series of now-infamous tweets posted on March 4.

The intelligence is said to leave no doubt the Obama administration, in its closing days, was using the cover of legitimate surveillance on foreign targets to spy on President-elect Trump, according to sources.

The key to that conclusion is the unmasking of selected U.S. persons whose names appeared in the intelligence, the sources said, adding that the paper trail leaves no other plausible purpose for the unmasking other than to damage the incoming Trump administration.

The FBI hasn’t been responsive to the House Intelligence Committee’s request for documents, but the National Security Agency is expected to produce documents to the committee by Friday. The NSA document production is expected to produce more intelligence than Nunes has so far seen or described – including what one source described as a potential “smoking gun” establishing the spying.

Some time will be needed to properly assess the materials, with the likely result being that congressional investigators and attorneys won’t have a solid handle on the contents of the documents – and their implications – until next week.

Because Nunes’s intelligence came from multiple sources during a span of several weeks, and he has not shared the actual materials with his committee colleagues, he will be the only member of the panel in a position to know whether the NSA has turned over some or all of the intelligence he is citing. However, Fox News was told Intelligence Committee Ranking Member Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., had been briefed on the basic contents of the intelligence described by Nunes.

CIA Director Mike Pompeo is also sympathetic to the effort to determine, with documentary evidence, the extent of any alleged Obama administration spying on the Trump team, sources said.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/23/potential-smoking-gun-showing-obama-administration-spied-on-trump-team-source-says.html

this would be awesome.

gangsta barack obama

[boutons_deux]

If I were Obama, knowing how many connections Trump's team had with Russians, knowing about Russian hacking DNC server, etc, etc, I would have probable cause to monitor Trash and his team's communciations with Russians.

That wouldn't be political spying a la Tricky Dick Nixon or FBI Edgar Hoover, as you rightwingnut assholes want to believe, but National Security monitoring of US citizens communicating with a foreign adversary who wants to bring weaken, destroy America and all democracies, to Pootin's "Long Game" advantage.

[clambake]

damn i hope he did it and his response is "you're goddamn right i did"

[boutons_deux]

Putin tells Le Pen Russia has no plans to meddle in French election

Far-right candidate in French presidential election reaffirms support for dropping EU sanctions on Russia after meeting in Moscow

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/24/vladimir-putin-hosts-marine-le-pen-in-moscow

:lol Fucking incredible he even has to say it. Anyway, he won't interfere, he hires others to crack and interfere, to spread fake news, fake web sites, propaganda.

Pootin needs the West $100Bs to build up his empire by replacing democracies around the planet with autocracies.

I give the murderer Pootin no benefit of the doubt.

[djohn2oo8]

845325908491845632
Flynn seems to have his plea deal in arrangement

[djohn2oo8]

845326456435724289

[baseline bum]

845325908491845632
Flynn seems to have his plea deal in arrangement

I hate this fill in the blanks shit. It's what conspiracy theorists always say when talking about 9/11, the JFK assassination, landing on the moon, etc.

[djohn2oo8]

845326991125626881

[djohn2oo8]

I hate this fill in the blanks shit. It's what conspiracy theorists always say when talking about 9/11, the JFK assassination, landing on the moon, etc.

All of a sudden Trump's associates want to talk to congress after they initially said they did nothing wrong? All on the same day...Somebody has signed their plea deal. Which is why Nunes has lost his fucking mind.

[baseline bum]

All of a sudden Trump's associates want to talk to congress after they initially said they did nothing wrong? All on the same day...Somebody has signed their plea deal. Which is why Nunes has lost his fucking mind.

I doubt it.

[djohn2oo8]

845333988868808704
:lol

[boutons_deux]

Trash and his advisors are going down.

Repug establishment would much rather have Pence sign all their sociopathic, America-looting, Americans-fleecing shit, while avoiding all the tweeting, distractions, bullshit that "outsider" Trash wallows in.

Repugs already have their people running the WH and in the dept heads.

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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Funny that Trump is close with the Enquirer.

[MultiTroll]

I can't even keep up with this Spy vs Spy shit.

Can someone make a chart?

[TSA]

Spurminator

Fox just fired judge Napolitano. Do you really think they would turn around days later and make a claim like this if they didn't verify the source and information?

[TSA]

If I were Obama, knowing how many connections Trump's team had with Russians, knowing about Russian hacking DNC server, etc, etc, I would have probable cause to monitor Trash and his team's communciations with Russians.

That wouldn't be political spying a la Tricky Dick Nixon or FBI Edgar Hoover, as you rightwingnut assholes want to believe, but National Security monitoring of US citizens communicating with a foreign adversary who wants to bring weaken, destroy America and all democracies, to Pootin's "Long Game" advantage.

Hillary and her team had many connections with the Russians and probably more financial interests than Trump as well.

[TSA]

Putin tells Le Pen Russia has no plans to meddle in French election

Far-right candidate in French presidential election reaffirms support for dropping EU sanctions on Russia after meeting in Moscow

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/24/vladimir-putin-hosts-marine-le-pen-in-moscow



:lol Fucking incredible he even has to say it. Anyway, he won't interfere, he hires others to crack and interfere, to spread fake news, fake web sites, propaganda.

Pootin needs the West $100Bs to build up his empire by replacing democracies around the planet with autocracies.

I give the murderer Pootin no benefit of the doubt.



Yet you were silent while the US was interfering in the 2012 French elections

CIA espionage orders for the 2012 French presidential election

https://wikileaks.org/cia-france-elections-2012/

[clambake]

Hillary and her team had many connections with the Russians and probably more financial interests than Trump as well.

well then thank goodness obama wiretapped him.

dude is a boss.

[Spurminator]

Spurminator (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=45)

Fox just fired judge Napolitano. Do you really think they would turn around days later and make a claim like this if they didn't verify the source and information?

I'm not questioning the legitimacy of their source. I'm questioning your selective trust in anonymous sources.

And no, I don't think firing Napolitano means they're suddenly a more careful news organization than they were before.

[TSA]

@djohn2008 your :downspin: tweets will be my Friday entertainment. Post as many funny tweets as you can find I need a pick me up. Just found out I have a torn rotator cuff and am attending a memorial service in a few hours.

[TSA]

I'm not questioning the legitimacy of their source. I'm questioning your selective trust in anonymous sources.

And no, I don't think firing Napolitano means they're suddenly a more careful news organization than they were before.

I questioned djohn's anonymous sources from his laughably unreliable twitter tards such as Garland and Mensch.

[Spurminator]

I questioned djohn's anonymous sources from his laughably unreliable twitter tards such as Garland and Mensch.

You have also questioned anonymous sources from NYT, WaPo and other news outlets with far more credibility than Fox News.

[djohn2oo8]

845357968145166336
Flynn is talking

[djohn2oo8]

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[TSA]

You have also questioned anonymous sources from NYT, WaPo and other news outlets with far more credibility than Fox News.

I'll give you NYT being more reliable than Fox by a long shot, but not WaPo after they ran the Prop or Not story. They are now on the same level as Fox News IMO.

[TSA]

845357968145166336
Flynn is talking

This is why no one takes your tweet tards seriously as they use selective editing in an attempt to deceive, much like Splits tries to do.

"Mr. Woolsey said the idea was “a covert step in the dead of night to whisk this guy away.” The discussion, he said, didn’t include actual tactics for removing Mr. Gulen from his U.S. home. If specific plans had been discussed, Mr. Woolsey said, he would have spoken up and questioned their legality.

It isn’t known who raised the idea or what Mr. Flynn concluded about it.

Price Floyd, a spokesman for Mr. Flynn, who was advising the Trump campaign on national security at the time of the meeting, disputed the account, saying “at no time did Gen. Flynn discuss any illegal actions, nonjudicial physical removal or any other such activities.”

[spurraider21]

I'll give you NYT being more reliable than Fox by a long shot, but not WaPo after they ran the Prop or Not story. They are now on the same level as Fox News IMO.
Elaborate on the propornot thing and why that makes wapo unreliable

[Reck]

I questioned djohn's anonymous sources from his laughably unreliable twitter tards such as Garland and Mensch.

LOL

You used Andrew Napolitano as your go to source to confirmed that the BRITS DID IT!

Not only was that false, but Fox of all networks suspended him and ultimately fired him over the falsehood.

Not to mention you are also on the record using 4chan as a source.

But muh secret FBI 4chan agent said this! :lmao

[djohn2oo8]

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CROFL

[djohn2oo8]

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[Reck]

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Impressive for a fattass.

[TSA]

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Scoop: Nunes vanished
Boom: Nunes disappeared

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

Comey supposedly went to collect Trump staffers cell numbers today.

[Monostradamus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIca68xS4Y8

[Reck]

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If it wasn't for Mitchel I would have called bullshit on this. Rachel Meddow is now in the same category as Hannity and should be avoided at all cost.

[DarrinS]

Yeah, if you're purging your phone or browser search history, you don't understand how NSA works. :lol

[boutons_deux]

Comey supposedly went to collect Trump staffers cell numbers today.

??? NSA already has them all, probably for many months :)

[baseline bum]

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hater what do you think about the Trump cabinet working with Erdogan?

[baseline bum]

If it wasn't for Mitchel I would have called bullshit on this. Rachel Meddow is now in the same category as Hannity and should be avoided at all cost.

Maddow really is sickening to watch with that condescending sarcastic tone. She is just as hard to listen to as Limbaugh.

[boutons_deux]

hater (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7609) what do you think about the Trump cabinet working with Erdogan?

Flynn discussed how to 'whisk' away cleric wanted by Turkey

discussed ways to take a man wanted by the Turkish government out of the United States without going through the legal extradition process, according to The Wall Street Journal (https://www.wsj.com/articles/ex-cia-director-mike-flynn-and-turkish-officials-discussed-removal-of-erdogan-foe-from-u-s-1490380426).

The conversation, which took place during the presidential race while Flynn was serving as an unpaid adviser to Trump, centered around Turkish cleric Fethullah Gulen.

The Turkish government has long wanted to take custody of Gulen, 75, who has been exiled in Pennsylvania since 1999.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/325698-flynn-discussed-how-to-whisk-away-cleric-wanted-by-turkey-report

Trash and his team is rotten with lawless shitbags, sleazebags, scumbags, compromised, conflict-of-interest "swamp" assholes

All that missing is greasebag Christie

[boutons_deux]

Trump Acts More Like a Russian than an American, Says Yale Historian on Maher Show

Yale History Professor Timothy Snyder’s latest book On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century (http://timothysnyder.org/) outlines some of the things that fall under dictators as they rise to power.

Americans to believe in the truth. “Without truth, we don’t have trust. Without trust, we don’t have the rule of law. Without the rule of law, we don’t have democracy,”

He then explained that the people who are looking for a post-factual world and distributing false information are directly responsible for killing democracy.

“It was the fascists who said, ‘everyday life doesn’t matter. Every detail doesn’t matter. Facts don’t matter. All that matters is the message, the leader, the myth, the totality,'” Snyder continued. “We should be thinking about the 1920s.”

t the 1920s also saw the rise of propaganda. “The modern day version of that is fake news and this country is under attack on its social networks for Russian-funded, Russian-pushed, propaganda that is uniquely tailored to each individual group.”

it is a specific form of “hybrid warfare” generated “to reclaim their lost empire.” It’s typical of the way the Russians operate.

‘America First’ is a Russian slogan! It’s a Nazi slogan being pushed by Russia (https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/01/20/president-trumps-america-first-slogan-was-popularized-by-nazi-sympathizers/?utm_term=.a6c3b6968550), who are quite literally attacking not only America but the whole of the west. Every country in Europe is undergoing these bots, this troll army, and what are we doing about it?”

“Their propaganda aims for the weaknesses the way a sniper aims for the lungs and head,” Snyder explained.

“So, they know us.

They know how to work with us and they’ve done it very well.

Donald Trump is American, right, but

his advisors have worked with the Russians.

His investors are Russian.

His post-fact style is Russian and

his whole idea of greatness is actually Russian.

There are actually billboards up in Russia that say ‘Let’s make the world great together.'”

http://www.alternet.org/right-wing/watch-trump-acts-more-russian-american-says-yale-historian-maher-show

[boutons_deux]

RNC hired Russia-connected intelligence firm in effort to dig up dirt on Hillary Clinton (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/3/24/1646782/-RNC-hired-Russia-connected-intelligence-firm-in-effort-to-dig-up-dirt-on-Hillary-Clinton)

As the general election was taking shape last summer, the Republican National Committee initiated a series of payments to a low-profile firm started by retired Central Intelligence Agency officers that worked closely with an ex-Russian spy.

The payments attracted attention in political and intelligence circles, largely because the Virginia-based firm, Hamilton Trading Group, had particular expertise in Russia, which was emerging as a major campaign issue at the time.


The firm produced two dossiers that tried to make the case that Clinton intervened in Bulgaria and Israel, respectively, on behalf of energy companies that had donated to the Clinton Foundation, according to people briefed on the reports.


If those particular charges don’t seem all that familiar, it’s because they—like the thousands of other such charges levied at Hillary—didn’t produce anything that came close to being evidence of wrongdoing.

What’s interesting about this is that these sources suggest that Kalugin was under investigation back in August – which would pre-date his mention in the Steele dossier.

All of this points to the idea that U.S. intelligence was pretty deeply involved in investigating this story – and as the Steele documents indicate – the Russians knew it. Getting Kalugin out of the country would have been a way to ensure that his secrets left with him.

CBS News has learned that some members of Congress want former British spy Christopher Steele to testify before the House Intelligence Committee investigating whether the Trump Campaign coordinated with the Russians during the 2016 election.

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/3/24/1646782/-RNC-hired-Russia-connected-intelligence-firm-in-effort-to-dig-up-dirt-on-Hillary-Clinton?detail=email&link_id=10&can_id=4217e8eb109c68bd0c2e4143dd2d8c15&source=email-hillary-clintons-tweetstorm-on-obamacare-is-a-beauty-to-behold&email_referrer=hillary-clintons-tweetstorm-on-obamacare-is-a-beauty-to-behold&email_subject=hillary-clintons-tweetstorm-on-obamacare-is-a-beauty-to-behold

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Congress Must Act: Trump’s Russia Ties a Full-Blown Crisis for U.S. Democracy

If the United States Congress were doing its job, right now nearly all business before the House and Senate would grind to a halt as leaders addressed a rapidly-unfolding crisis:

whether the current administration is acting in the interests of the nation whose Constitution its members have sworn to defend.

The nomination hearings of a new Supreme Court justice would be forestalled while national law enforcement and intelligence agencies investigated the current administration’s ties to a foreign government that attempted to sway the 2016 presidential election in favor of the president who appointed that nominee.

An independent select committee would be quickly convened.

A congressional leadership with a shred of patriotism would take a break from trying to revoke health care from everyday Americans to take up an all-hands-on-deck approach to the question of just which nation the current administration works for.

Instead, Republicans are more concerned with who leaked (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/20/us/politics/republicans-leaks-defend-trump.html) damning information about the administration’s interactions with Russian officials.

http://prospect.org/article/congress-must-act-trump%E2%80%99s-russia-ties-full-blown-crisis-us-democracy

While Repug Nunes destroys the credibility, independence of his own checks-and-balances intel committee.

[djohn2oo8]

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CROFL Flynn has flipped

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CROFL Flynn has flipped

Such a patriot. He's trying to protect general's very comfy pension. If he's committed treason, he should lose it, at least.

He and Snowden could split an apartment in Moscow. No extradition treaty with Pootin, AFAIK

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[spurraider21]

845720612098232328they were saying the same shit during the clinton investigation every time there was news of random people getting immunity

[djohn2oo8]

they were saying the same shit during the clinton investigation every time there was news of random people getting immunity

The National Security Adviser has been busted for espionage. It's a little bit different here.

[djohn2oo8]

Oh and Flynn was busted for attempting to plan a kidnapping.

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I'm really starting to wonder when you have News Corp turning on Trump now. That Turkey story in today's WSJ. :lmao

[Monostradamus]

https://68.media.tumblr.com/ed566cb53807f765250f81d6b608010e/tumblr_n92sqc9Bqx1thotzno1_1280.jpg

[djohn2oo8]

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[Reck]

Djohn doing's god's work in here. :lol

[AaronY]

That palmer report site is real fucking sketchy. I did some background on it and dont trust it myself

[djohn2oo8]

That palmer report site is real fucking sketchy. I did some background on it and dont trust it myself

It has been confirmed other places. Nunes was at that meeting with Flynn.

[TSA]

It has been confirmed other places. Nunes was at that meeting with Flynn.

other places aka Garland and Mensch
:rollin

[BanditHiro]

other places aka Garland and Mensch
:rollin

lol you of all people questioning sources

[spurraider21]

other places aka Garland and Mensch
:rollinalmost as reliable as your preferred source, aka 4chan anonymous ID 5b34c8a334

[TSA]

almost as reliable as your preferred source, aka 4chan anonymous ID 5b34c8a334

Track record is better considering nothing is claimed "confirmed"

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Intelligence expert Malcolm Nance on Trump scandal: “As close to Benedict Arnold as we’re ever going to get”


http://www.salon.com/2017/03/14/intelligence-expert-malcolm-nance-on-trump-scandal-as-close-to-benedict-arnold-as-were-ever-going-to-get/?source=newsletter

[vy65]

A timeline of events that unfolded during the election appears to support the FBI's investigation into Trump-Russia collusion

http://www.businessinsider.com/updated-trump-russia-election-timeline-fbi-2017-3

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TRASH is goin down

[baseline bum]

TRASH is goin down

Think the GOP will actually want to take him down now the way he blew the ACA repeal?

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Think the GOP will actually want to take him down now the way he blew the ACA repeal?

Ryan wrote it, not Trash, but truth never bothers any of them

if Flynn sings, it's out of Repug hands.

Repug policies, strategy, destructiveness won't change w Pence.

[Reck]

Think the GOP will actually want to take him down now the way he blew the ACA repeal?

You keep bringing the GOP like it's up to them whether Trump gets criminically charged or not.

If the FBI is working on a criminal investigation on Trump and they link him to it, its over for him. It's not like republicans can save his ass from criminal charges.

[baseline bum]

Ryan wrote it, not Trash, but truth never bothers any of them

if Flynn sings, it's out of Repug hands.

Repug policies, strategy, destructiveness won't change w Pence.

I doubt it has a 17% approval rating if it wasn't tied to a cancer like Trump. All his crying wolf about the media torpedoed what was supposed to be the GOP's signature legislation.

[DarrinS]

You keep bringing the GOP like it's up to them whether Trump gets criminically charged or not.

If the FBI is working on a criminal investigation on Trump and they link him to it, its over for him. It's not like republicans can save his ass from criminal charges.


You really slurping that koolaid?

For fucks sake, Trump was on TV saying, "hey Russia, if you're listening, it would be nice if you could find Hillary's 30k missing emails" (or something to that effect). You really think someone colluding with Russia does that? You're delusional if you think all of this leads to Trump in cuffs. :lol

[Reck]

You really slurping that koolaid?

For fucks sake, Trump was on TV saying, "hey Russia, if you're listening, it would be nice if you could find Hillary's 30k missing emails" (or something to that effect). You really think someone colluding with Russia does that? You're delusional if you think all of this leads to Trump in cuffs. :lol

I dont know what funnier, you thinking Trump is actually a smart person or that Trump is clean. :lol

Pick your poison I guess.

[DarrinS]

I dont know what funnier, you thinking Trump is actually a smart person or that Trump is clean. :lol

Pick your poison I guess.


I'm just using common sense. If you're part of some secret collaboration with Putin, you don't go on TV and announce it. Also unusual that all those being investigated seem more than happy to come forth for questioning. Roger Stone has done several interviews in the last couple of days -- he doesn't seem too worried.

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I doubt it has a 17% approval rating if it wasn't tied to a cancer like Trump. All his crying wolf about the media torpedoed what was supposed to be the GOP's signature legislation.

The 17% was result of people learning how bad AHCA was, not the cause

Ryan wrote it, Trash owned it, 83% rejected it on its demerits, not because of Trash's ownership

[Reck]

I'm just using common sense. If you're part of some secret collaboration with Putin, you don't go on TV and announce it. Also unusual that all those being investigated seem more than happy to come forth for questioning. Roger Stone has done several interviews in the last couple of days -- he doesn't seem too worried.

LOL common sense.

More like refusing to see what's in front of your face. Just like you wouldn't go on Twitter and accused a former president of doing an illegal act of wiretapping you.

Nobody ever accused Trump of being bright.

Same goes for retards like Roger Stone and his ilk. Using twitter to announce an incomming hack. :lmao

These are the incompetent people Trump listens too.

[DarrinS]

LOL common sense.

More like refusing to see what's in front of your face. Just like you wouldn't go on Twitter and accused a former president of doing an illegal act of wiretapping you.

Nobody ever accused Trump of being bright.

Same goes for retards like Roger Stone and his ilk. Using twitter to announce an incomming hack. :lmao

These are the incompetent people Trump listens too.


Well, I guess I'll wait for actual evidence. You seem to be using media narrative to drive your confidence in this Trump-Russia collusion conspiracy.

[DarrinS]

Media narrative also gave Orange Hitler no chance against Crooked Hitlery.

^And I firmly believed that one.

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Media narrative also gave Orange Hitler no chance against Crooked Hitlery.

^And I firmly believed that one.

Journalists don't understand what dependent random variables are tbh.