Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

[Chris]

https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19959138_928800520593992_492292907820234520_n.jpg? oh=800adb674fe464662792289ba6771c7a&oe=59FDAEBD

[spurraider21]

is that the guy who can't explain the tides?

[Chris]

Some Russian lawyer said something. NEXT on MSNBC!

[spurraider21]

tide goes in, tide goes out. you can't explain that

[TSA]

Your deal used to be you would answer question when poster answer your question.

What happen to that deal?

I think socks are cowardly.

Reveal your original account and I'll kill my account. Do we have a deal?

[Reck]

Is O'Reilly still trying to charge you 50 bucks per podcast? :lol

[Chris]

motherfuck'n magnets how do they work?

[Pavlov]

I think socks are cowardly.

Reveal your original account and I'll kill my account. Do we have a deal?TSA demand answer!

[DarrinS]

Russia wants to help Trump, so they set up meeting with this lawyer, promising dirt, but have none?

Maybe they were just hoping this meeting would be discovered along with the media fallout. They are probably loving this as much as CNN.

[Chris]

Is O'Reilly still trying to charge you 50 bucks per podcast? :lol

fXZj4Wy58Pk

[spurraider21]

motherfuck'n magnets how do they work?
He said and it was

or something

[tlongII]

Pavlov is RG. Not Chump. I find it incredible that you don't realize this.

[DarrinS]

Pavlov is RG. Not Chump. I find it incredible that you don't realize this.

I thought so, but who would be sick enough to list Lakers as their team? :lol

[TSA]

TSA demand answer!

You are proving my point of socks being cowardly. Why won't you take the deal?

[spurraider21]

Pavlov is RG. Not Chump. I find it incredible that you don't realize this.
https://i.giphy.com/media/3oz8xLd9DJq2l2VFtu/giphy.webp

[Pavlov]

You are proving my point of socks being cowardly. Why won't you take the deal?You break deal about answer questions.

No trust.

Sock, no sock, coward no answer simple questions.

[TSA]

Pavlov is RG. Not Chump. I find it incredible that you don't realize this.

RG never posted this frequently and at these times, and was always talking about having to get back to work.

[spurraider21]

i have about a 99.7% confidence level that it's chump

so there you go TSA, sock exposed. now answer his questions

part of me feels bad for exposing him, cause i like pavlov... but he's been hiding long enough.

[TSA]

You break deal about answer questions.

No trust.

Sock, no sock, coward no answer simple questions.

I've killed my account before, I'm not a welsher. You have my word I will kill my account if you reveal your original account.

Do we have a deal yes or no?

[TeyshaBlue]

actually i'm pretty sure pavlov is chump :lol

guess he was resurrected

Why? Be specific.

[Adam Lambert]

Russia wants to help Trump, so they set up meeting with this lawyer, promising dirt, but have none?

where did you get the info that they had no dirt?

[Pavlov]

I've killed my account before, I'm not a welsher. You have my word I will kill my account if you reveal your original account.

Do we have a deal yes or no?WOWEE! Guy with many account kill account and post under other account! Stakes so high!

Simple question make you do funny thing.

[SnakeBoy]

i have about a 99.7% confidence level that it's chump

so there you go TSA, sock exposed. now answer his questions

lol If it's Chump there is no point in answering his questions, he'd just respond with a new question

The way to definitively determine if it is Chump is to respond to his question with a question. If it is Chump he'll respond to your question with a question in which case you respond with to his question with your original question...and so on. If this process continues for 10 pages it is definitely Chump.

[spurraider21]

Why? Be specific.
- Had my suspicions based on their identical posting style minus the broken english shtick... (yet still neurotically uses capitalization and punctuation)
- pavlov account was created in 2007, so it had to be a really old user (yet his first post was in may 2017, so it had been tucked away for a decade)
- pavlov's first post is on the same day as chump's most recent activity (may 30, 2017)

[Chris]

lol If it's Chump there is no point in answering his questions, he'd just respond with a new question

The way to definitively determine if it is Chump is to respond to his question with a question. If it is Chump he'll respond to your question with a question in which case you respond with to his question with your original question...and so on. If this process continues for 10 pages it is definitely Chump.

:lol

[TSA]

WOWEE! Guy with many account kill account and post under other account! Stakes so high!

Simple question make you do funny thing.

I originally had kingsfanwithoutname but I don't know the login so this is my last account.

Do we have a deal yes or no?

[TSA]

- Had my suspicions based on their identical posting style minus the broken english shtick... (yet still neurotically uses capitalization and punctuation)
- pavlov account was created in 2007, so it had to be a really old user (yet his first post was in may 2017, so it had been tucked away for a decade)
- pavlov's first post is on the same day as chump's most recent activity (may 30, 2017)

If you fail the bar just become a detective

[Pavlov]

I originally had kingsfanwithoutname but I don't know the login so this is my last account.

Do we have a deal yes or no?I answer your question when you answer mine. Deal?

[spurraider21]

If you fail the bar just become a detective
https://media.giphy.com/media/10ttqzrQQODtUk/giphy.gif

[TeyshaBlue]

- Had my suspicions based on their identical posting style minus the broken english shtick... (yet still neurotically uses capitalization and punctuation)
- pavlov account was created in 2007, so it had to be a really old user (yet his first post was in may 2017, so it had been tucked away for a decade)
- pavlov's first post is on the same day as chump's most recent activity (may 30, 2017)

Solid. :tu

[Adam Lambert]

:lol all this obsession over "socks" in an anonymous forum where no one uses their real name

[spurraider21]

although for some time Chris thought i was pavlov, Spurtacular still thinks i'm chump, so maybe i'm actually all 3 :stirpot:

[DarrinS]

where did you get the info that they had no dirt?

Well, if they got dirt, it doesn't appear they used it.

[TSA]

I answer your question when you answer mine. Deal?

No need to answer it spurraider already did.

Welcome back Mr. 99,999

[Pavlov]

:lol all this obsession over "socks" in an anonymous forum where no one uses their real nameReveal real account and I kill this account. Deal?

[DarrinS]

:lol all this obsession over "socks" in an anonymous forum where no one uses their real name

I use my real name.

[spurraider21]

:lol all this obsession over "socks" in an anonymous forum where no one uses their real name
and yet for some reason you're afraid to disclose which anonymous account was your main one

[spurraider21]

sorry Pavlov

no hard feelings, comrade

[TeyshaBlue]

:lol all this obsession over "socks" in an anonymous forum where no one uses their real name

That's not your real name?:wow

[Adam Lambert]

Well, if they got dirt, it doesn't appear they used it.

you didnt hear about that whole dnc email leak?

[TSA]

:lol all this obsession over "socks" in an anonymous forum where no one uses their real name

It's not about using your real name it's your hiding behind an alt account because you were either shamed out of using it or too much of a pussy to speak your mind from it.

[Adam Lambert]

That's not your real name?:wow

im the only brave motherfucker in here. hit me up on twitter @ adamlambert

[TeyshaBlue]

im the only brave motherfucker in here. hit me up on twitter @ adamlambert
:lol

[TSA]

you didnt hear about that whole dnc email leak?

The one that was downloaded at speeds too fast to have been done by someone overseas?

[DarrinS]

you didnt hear about that whole dnc email leak?

DNC had already been hacked.

[spurraider21]

Pavlov is RG. Not Chump. I find it incredible that you don't realize this.
:lol

[Adam Lambert]

DNC had already been hacked.

no shit. and maybe thats the intel they met about. we dont know.

alls im sayin is the only person saying there was nothing of substance in that meeting was the jackass who lied about the meeting in the first place before he got caught. so its a dumb assumption to just believe they didnt discuss anything.

[DarrinS]

no shit. and maybe thats the intel they met about. we dont know.

alls im sayin is the only person saying there was nothing of substance in that meeting was the jackass who lied about the meeting in the first place before he got caught. so its a dumb assumption to just believe they didnt discuss anything.


They needed a meeting for that?

That's why I asked baseline bum if he thought the lawyer was Guccifer. :lol

[Reck]

lol If it's Chump there is no point in answering his questions, he'd just respond with a new question

The way to definitively determine if it is Chump is to respond to his question with a question. If it is Chump he'll respond to your question with a question in which case you respond with to his question with your original question...and so on. If this process continues for 10 pages it is definitely Chump.

Pretty sure you're describing TSA here. That's his schtick.

[DarrinS]

I thought chump died

[TSA]

Pretty sure you're describing TSA here. That's his schtick.

Do you have an example and quotes of this? Be specific.

[spurraider21]

Do you have an example and quotes of this? Be specific.
what does this art imply?

[DarrinS]

Do you have an example and quotes of this? Be specific.

Oh shit. Chump lives. :lol

[Reck]

Do you have an example and quotes of this? Be specific.

That requires combing through hundreds of sets of arguements you've had in the past. I'm not going to waste my whole night proving something you do often.

Dont take it as a bad thing though. It works for you. The tediousness of repeated questions wears on the other party.

[baseline bum]

Russia wants to help Trump, so they set up meeting with this lawyer, promising dirt, but have none?

Maybe they were just hoping this meeting would be discovered along with the media fallout. They are probably loving this as much as CNN.

So there was no dirt because? The lawyer said so? Because Uday said so?

[TSA]

That requires combing through hundreds of sets of arguements you've had in the past. I'm not going to waste my whole night proving something you do often.

Dont take it as a bad thing though. It works for you. The tediousness of repeated questions wears on the other party.
If it's my schtick it should an easy find.

Do you have an example and quotes of this? Be specific.

[TSA]

So there was no dirt because? The lawyer said so? Because Uday said so?

Why are you so concerned about a campaign looking for dirt on the opposition it's what they do.

[baseline bum]

Why are you so concerned about a campaign looking for dirt on the opposition it's what they do.

Because it shows Trump attempting to collude with Russia.

[boutons_deux]

Here’s Who FOX News Just Blamed For Trump’s Russia Scandal

But Bolling doubles down, decrying the blatant evidence against Trump and Trump Jr. as “Trump derangement syndrome.”

He then goes so far as to blame Obama for, somehow, not stopping the Trump campaign from colluding with a hostile foreign adversary to undermine the integrity of our election.




“If you have a problem with what Russia is doing with regards to our elections, then

you have a problem with what Barack Obama did to stop them from doing it.

He apparently never stopped any of this from happening.”

Bolling’s comments are a testament to the extent to which FOX News will go to diffuse responsibility on behalf of the Trump administration.

http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/07/11/heres-fox-news-just-blamed-trumps-russia-scandal/

Thanks, Obama!

Trash and his entourage have been mind-fucked by Obama. :lol

[Pavlov]

Campaigns collude with us government all time! We good friend to USA!

Not like stinky Ukraine!

[Spurtacular]

although for some time Chris (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1656) thought i was pavlov, Spurtacular (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49615) still thinks i'm chump, so maybe i'm actually all 3 :stirpot:

Are you bipolar? There definitely is one quite discernible difference between you and chump, personality wise. Namely, you are nowhere near as persistent, a.k.a. an interminable pest. You retired your chump name. But you have to be getting that part of you out somewhere. Did you take your talents to a Golden State board?

[tlongII]

RG never posted this frequently and at these times, and was always talking about having to get back to work.

Irrelevant. It is RG.

[clambake]

Are you bipolar? There definitely is one quite discernible difference between you and chump, personality wise. Namely, you are nowhere near as persistent, a.k.a. an interminable pest. You retired your chump name. But you have to be getting that part of you out somewhere. Did you take your talents to a Golden State board?

'getting a little warm in here"

[TSA]

Because it shows Trump attempting to collude with Russia.

Would it have been collusion if he attempted to get dirt on Clinton from other countries not named Russia?

[Pavlov]

Are you bipolar? There definitely is one quite discernible difference between you and chump, personality wise. Namely, you are nowhere near as persistent, a.k.a. an interminable pest. You retired your chump name. But you have to be getting that part of you out somewhere. Did you take your talents to a Golden State board?Holy boy! Who am I?

[clambake]

Would it have been collusion if he attempted to get dirt on Clinton from other countries not named Russia?

that depends

[Spurtacular]

'getting a little warm in here"

Sorry, not trying to disrupt the flow of whatever convo is going on in here. Just came at Chump's beckoning.

#SaveChumpDumper

[Pavlov]

that dependsWhat if your name Chalupa?

[clambake]

Sorry, not trying to disrupt the flow of whatever convo is going on in here. Just came at Chump's beckoning.

#SaveChumpDumper

lol

[boutons_deux]

“That’s the very thing that we need to not be distracted by”


Everybody is freaking out about the Trump Jr. news. Except Senate Republicans.

Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT): “I don’t think this is relevant”

Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA): “They want to get their story out”

Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX): “I don’t really have a reaction”

Sen. Thom Tillis (R-NC): “That’s the very thing that we need to not be distracted by”

Sen. Richard Burr (R-NC): “See ya”

Sen. John McCain (R-AZ): “More shoes will drop”

Sen. Mike Crapo (R-ID): “Until I’ve had a chance to review it, I’m not gonna make a comment”

Sen. Thad Chochran (R-MS) says he hasn’t heard about the scandal

Sen. David Perdue (R-GA): “I don’t have an opinion about that”

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX): No comment

Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC): No comment

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/7/11/15953822/senate-republicans-trump-jr-russia-revelations

[baseline bum]

Would it have been collusion if he attempted to get dirt on Clinton from other countries not named Russia?

Always the :cry but Clinton :cry defense. Trump has done nothing but lie about his campaign's contact with Russia for months now. And his campaign is almost certainly lying here again.

:lol meeting with Uday, Cuckner, and Manafort to talk adoptions

[Spurtacular]

Holy boy! Who am I?

A cuck pretending to be European would be my best guess; but I've never seen you 'til now, tbh.

[spurraider21]

Are you bipolar? There definitely is one quite discernible difference between you and chump, personality wise. Namely, you are nowhere near as persistent, a.k.a. an interminable pest. You retired your chump name. But you have to be getting that part of you out somewhere. Did you take your talents to a Golden State board?


Irrelevant. It is RG.
http://static1.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/Took+me+a+while+_a801ffb9727760aca1469ce6923855d4. gif

[TSA]

Irrelevant. It is RG.

RG seems to have a life outside Spurstalk and has never been a post whore.

Chumpdumper lived here 24/7 and seemingly had no life outside of Spurstalk.

[TSA]

Always the :cry but Clinton :cry defense. Trump has done nothing but lie about his campaign's contact with Russia for months now. And his campaign is almost certainly lying here again.

:lol meeting with Uday, Cuckner, and Manafort to talk adoptions

It was a serious question. Are you only concerned because the country was Russia?

[DarrinS]

So there was no dirt because? The lawyer said so? Because Uday said so?

Maybe they needed jr's recommendation for the timing of email release?

[Spurtacular]

http://static1.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/Took+me+a+while+_a801ffb9727760aca1469ce6923855d4. gif

Was the chump dumper persona wearing you out? You were doing a lot hand to hand combat, daily. I could see wanting to semi-retire from that. Though, I tend to think you're doing some heavy duty trolling somewhere. :lol

#SaveChumpDumper

[TSA]

Was the chump dumper persona wearing you out? You were doing a lot hand to hand combat, daily. I could see wanting to semi-retire from that. Though, I tend to think you're doing some heavy duty trolling somewhere. :lol

#SaveChumpDumper

Are you really FuzzyLumpkins?

[spurraider21]

Are you really FuzzyLumpkins?
no, he's just mormon

[Spurtacular]

Are you really FuzzyLumpkins?

My recollection of that guy is fuzzy.

[TSA]

My recollection of that guy is fuzzy.

You know, the guy who fails every time when attempting to call out alts.

[boutons_deux]

FLASHBACK: Trump Teased ‘Major Hillary Speech’ Hours After Don Jr. Confirmed Russian Lawyer Meeting (http://www.mediaite.com/online/flashback-trump-teased-major-hillary-speech-hours-after-don-jr-confirmed-russian-lawyer-meeting/)


June 7 – 5:16 PM – Don Jr. confirms meeting w/ Russian lawyer

June 7 – 9:13 PM Trump promises press conf the next week with Clinton dirt. pic.twitter.com/qAYEvymsdV (https://t.co/qAYEvymsdV)

— Yashar Ali (@yashar) July 11, 2017 (https://twitter.com/yashar/status/884900796957171712)

http://www.mediaite.com/online/flashback-trump-teased-major-hillary-speech-hours-after-don-jr-confirmed-russian-lawyer-meeting/



Trash was told, he knew Russian dirt on Hillary was coming.

[DarrinS]

You know, the guy who fails every time when attempting to call out alts.

He can't even detect obvious sarcasm, so no surprise there.

[TSA]

Anyone know how to recover an account if you don't remember the email or password you set them up on but remember the username? I just remembered an alt crew I had from way back in the day.

[DarrinS]

FLASHBACK: Trump Teased ‘Major Hillary Speech’ Hours After Don Jr. Confirmed Russian Lawyer Meeting (http://www.mediaite.com/online/flashback-trump-teased-major-hillary-speech-hours-after-don-jr-confirmed-russian-lawyer-meeting/)


June 7 – 5:16 PM – Don Jr. confirms meeting w/ Russian lawyer

June 7 – 9:13 PM Trump promises press conf the next week with Clinton dirt. pic.twitter.com/qAYEvymsdV (https://t.co/qAYEvymsdV)

— Yashar Ali (@yashar) July 11, 2017 (https://twitter.com/yashar/status/884900796957171712)

http://www.mediaite.com/online/flashback-trump-teased-major-hillary-speech-hours-after-don-jr-confirmed-russian-lawyer-meeting/



Trash was told, he knew Russian dirt on Hillary was coming.






Post hoc ergo propter hoc

Same with Wikileaks shit

[Reck]

Spurtacular is a shitheel. That we call all agree on. :lol

[Reck]

Anyone know how to recover an account if you don't remember the email or password you set them up on but remember the username? I just remembered an alt crew I had from way back in the day.

Just PM Chinook. He'll reset the email addy for you for that particular name.

[TSA]

FLASHBACK: Trump Teased ‘Major Hillary Speech’ Hours After Don Jr. Confirmed Russian Lawyer Meeting (http://www.mediaite.com/online/flashback-trump-teased-major-hillary-speech-hours-after-don-jr-confirmed-russian-lawyer-meeting/)


June 7 – 5:16 PM – Don Jr. confirms meeting w/ Russian lawyer

June 7 – 9:13 PM Trump promises press conf the next week with Clinton dirt. pic.twitter.com/qAYEvymsdV (https://t.co/qAYEvymsdV)

— Yashar Ali (@yashar) July 11, 2017 (https://twitter.com/yashar/status/884900796957171712)

http://www.mediaite.com/online/flashback-trump-teased-major-hillary-speech-hours-after-don-jr-confirmed-russian-lawyer-meeting/



Trash was told, he knew Russian dirt on Hillary was coming.





What dirt came out after that? Was it fake news dirt or just more verified authentic emails that exposed Clinton and the DNC for the cheating frauds they actually were?

[TSA]

Just PM Chinook. He'll reset the email addy for you for that particular name.

:tu

When did he get the power to do that?

[Reck]

:tu

When did he get the power to do that?

Not sure. Thinking about it twice he probably doesn't have the power that an admin would have. He pins and unpins threads in the NBA forums though.

[TSA]

Not sure. Thinking about it twice he probably doesn't have the power that an admin would have. He pins and unpins threads in the NBA forums though.

I'll just ask the guys at Cozy Bear to help me out with the passwords.

[Pavlov]

Anyone know how to recover an account if you don't remember the email or password you set them up on but remember the username? I just remembered an alt crew I had from way back in the day.Ah. Wish I knew for sure!

[DarrinS]

Ah. Wish I knew for sure!

Why when sock post, RG not post?

[Pavlov]

Why when sock post, RG not post?

Passwords big problem.

[djohn2oo8]

884947079931588608
lol at Trump's lawyer may resign

[djohn2oo8]

884943166448730112

[djohn2oo8]

884948199538122758
:lmao :lmao :lmao :rollin

[Reck]

884948199538122758
:lmao :lmao :lmao :rollin


So much for Trump not knowing anything about the meeting.

[TSA]

884943166448730112

hey what do you know...the same anti-Magnitsky Russian lawyer has ties to the GPS fusion firm that was paid by Dems to get dirt on Trump. This shit is straight out of a spy movie :lol

"Of particular interest to Grassley is the involvement of Washington political research firm Fusion GPS. Browder singled out the firm for its alleged involvement in the anti-Magnitsky effort. It was also involved in the creation of a research document last year that claimed the Russian government had collected blackmail material on Trump, and that his team had colluded with Russian government agents to hobble the Clinton campaign.

Most of the Steele dossier—named for its author, a former British intelligence agent—remains unverified. The dossier, and Fusion GPS’s role in it, has been invoked by defenders of the president—including his legal team—to cast doubt on collusion allegations, and prior statements from Grassley indicated he would likely take that tack during the hearing."

[TSA]

This lawyer reeks of a set up by GPS funded by Dems.

[Adam Lambert]

kind of stupid of the dems to wait til 8 months after the election to reveal their plant lawyer, no?

[boutons_deux]

Like Father, Like Son


http://www.truthdig.com/images/made/images/cartoonuploads/[email protected]

[pgardn]

This lawyer reeks of a set up by GPS funded by Dems.

Going Pizza sauce and child parts... Making up shit much more complex than just plain bungling by the Trump team and now the WH. Off to the fruit bat cave...

[boutons_deux]

The White House Puts Trump Into Hiding As He Is Consumed By Rage Over The Russia Scandal

Trump is reported to be consumed by rage over the fact that his son Donald Jr. has been caught up in the Russia scandal,

while the White House has kept the President hidden from any domestic public appearances as they fear what might happen if they let him out in public.

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/07/11/white-house-puts-trump-hiding-consumed-rage-russia-scandal.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

[boutons_deux]

President Trump personally signed off on false statement claiming Don Jr.’s meeting was about adoption

President Donald Trump personally signed off (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/11/us/politics/russia-trump.html?_r=0) on a statement provided Sunday by Donald Trump Jr.,

which insisted a meeting between the president’s eldest son and an emissary of the Russian government

was a simple conversation about an adoption program.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/president-trump-personally-signed-off-on-false-statement-claiming-don-jr-s-meeting-was-about-adoption-report/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[pgardn]

So much for Trump not knowing anything about the meeting.

They absolutely just perspire lies.
They deficate and urinate lies, they exhale lies...

And they are extraordinarily poor at covering them. It's quite a show. There is no fundamental understanding of why the truth is a very efficient way to communicate.

[boutons_deux]

BUSTED: Breitbart editors privately accuse Trump Jr. of collusion — while defending him online

It appears that now, even editors at Steve Bannon’s conservative website privately believe Donald Trump Jr. is guilty of colluding with the Russians — while defending him in print.

According to CNN (http://money.cnn.com/2017/07/11/media/right-wing-media-donald-trump-jr-emails-russians/index.html), Raheem Kassam, Breitbart London’s editor-in-chief, reveals that the leader of the British wing of the alt-right’s flagship news site is privately concerned about Donald Trump, Jr.’s emails.

“So like, this is straight up collusion, right?” Kassam wrote in a transcript of the company’s internal Slack channel obtained by CNN.

Kassam wasn’t the only Breitbart-er stunned by the news:

senior editor Rebecca Mansour responded only with the word “wow,”

while deputy politics editor Rebecca House simply wrote “???????” to voice her astonishment.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/busted-breitbart-editors-privately-accuse-trump-jr-of-collusion-while-defending-him-online/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

:lol

[djohn2oo8]

884964039608197121

[boutons_deux]

6 days after the 3 Trash capos met with Russian mafiya lady...

Russians/Assange started releasing the stolen emails.

what did Pootin get in return?

As was noted at the time, the ONLY intervention by Trash in the Repug platform was to weaken the anti-Russia plank(s).

quid meet quo, how ya doin? jus' fine, thanks.

[Chris]

https://media.giphy.com/media/lLVUY3enqxJ6w/giphy.gif

[djohn2oo8]

Chris, if it's a nothing burger why does everyone need a lawyer?

Now Goldstone has lawyered up :lmao

[Chris]

Chris, if it's a nothing burger why does everyone need a lawyer?

Now Goldstone has lawyered up :lmao

Are you saying these people didn't have lawyers beforehand? Be specific.

[djohn2oo8]

Are you saying these people didn't have lawyers beforehand? Be specific.

Im saying they did not have lawyers for the Russia probe. They hired lawyers specifically for it.

[pgardn]

https://media.giphy.com/media/lLVUY3enqxJ6w/giphy.gif

This is still possible.

But the unabashed lying is not.
And you proclaim to be a Christian.
Do you try to actually be Christian, or are you already saved so you can just lie as you please?

[Reck]

Chris is back with his memes. Signs that he's worried. :lol

[clambake]

What dirt came out after that? Was it fake news dirt or just more verified authentic emails that exposed Clinton and the DNC for the cheating frauds they actually were?

listen, tighten it up!

this smells a little desperate.

[boutons_deux]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwr7pEgPqk4&feature=em-uploademail

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anAYFvvYO40

[Chris]

Im saying they did not have lawyers for the Russia probe. They hired lawyers specifically for it.

Wouldn't you if you were being probed for a nothingburger? People like Chuck Schumer talking about 6 ways to Sunday, I'm looking for Shapiro and Cochran :lol

[TSA]

Going Pizza sauce and child parts... Making up shit much more complex than just plain bungling by the Trump team and now the WH. Off to the fruit bat cave...

All just a huge coincidence the same lawyer that met with Trump Jr also worked with the same firm who was paid by the Dems to do oppo research on Trump?

[Spurtacular]

You know, the guy who fails every time when attempting to call out alts.

Okay; how about you list out the alts for me.

[Adam Lambert]

kind of stupid of the dems to wait til 8 months after the election to reveal their plant lawyer, no?

guess so

[pgardn]

All just a huge coincidence the same lawyer that met with Trump Jr also worked with the same firm who was paid by the Dems to do oppo research on Trump?

That lawyer is trying to play games with our system and almost certainly works for the govt.

she has no side most likely, her gig is too make trouble. Much more reasonable The injection of confusion and disinformation is much easier than deep plotting. The Russians are not stupid. This book drama deep state plotting is silly. It's easier to just create doubt. They do have the Trumps playing lying games though. Probably got much more run out of this than they ever imagined.

[TSA]

That lawyer is trying to play games with our system and almost certainly works for the govt.

she has no side most likely, her gig is too make trouble. Much more reasonable The injection of confusion and disinformation is much easier than deep plotting. The Russians are not stupid. This book drama deep state plotting is silly. It's easier to just create doubt. They do have the Trumps playing lying games though. Probably got much more run out of this than they ever imagined.

What does any of that have to do with her ties to GPS Fusion that was paid by the Dems to compose the Trump dossier?

[Adam Lambert]

russia doesnt have a favorite candidate, russia just needs america to be a clusterfuck, and its succeeded so far.

and any of you motherfuckers who pushed pizzagate or email scandal or any of the other russia shitpost campaigns are complicit.

you should be proud.

[TSA]

Okay; how about you list out the alts for me.
spurraider21

[TSA]

russia doesnt have a favorite candidate, russia just needs america to be a clusterfuck, and its succeeded so far.

and any of you motherfuckers who pushed pizzagate or email scandal or any of the other russia shitpost campaigns are complicit.

you should be proud.


were the emails dumped by Wikileaks doctored in any way?

[boutons_deux]

‘Category 5 hurricane’: White House under siege by Trump Jr.’s Russia revelations

The White House has been thrust into chaos after days of ever-worsening revelations about a meeting between Donald Trump Jr. and a lawyer characterized as representing the Russian government, as the president fumes against his enemies and senior aides circle one another with suspicion,

President Trump — who has been hidden from public view since returning last weekend from a divisive international summit — is enraged that the Russia cloud still hangs over his presidency and is exasperated that his eldest son and namesake has become engulfed by it,

Even supporters of Trump Jr. who believe he faces no legal repercussions privately acknowledged Tuesday that the story is a public relations disaster — for him as well as for the White House.

Inside a White House in which infighting often seems like a core cultural value,

three straight days of revelations in the New York Times about Trump Jr. have inspired a new round of accusations and recriminations,

with advisers privately speculating about who inside the Trump orbit may be leaking damaging information about the president’s son.
This portrait of the Trump White House under siege is based on interviews Tuesday with more than a dozen West Wing officials, outside advisers, and friends and associates of the president and his family,

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/category-5-hurricane-white-house-under-siege-by-trump-jrs-russia-revelations/2017/07/11/1e091478-664d-11e7-8eb5-cbccc2e7bfbf_story.html?utm_term=.b646c8275921

Fucking hilarious :lol

[TSA]

russia doesnt have a favorite candidate, russia just needs america to be a clusterfuck, and its succeeded so far.

and any of you motherfuckers who pushed pizzagate or email scandal or any of the other russia shitpost campaigns are complicit.

you should be proud.

The most successful and complicit players in causing this clusterfuck have been CNN, MSNBC, and the WaPo.
It's not even close.

[Adam Lambert]

were the emails dumped by Wikileaks doctored in any way?

:lmao wikileaks

russian pawn. fuck you.

[pgardn]

What does any of that have to do with her ties to GPS Fusion that was paid by the Dems to compose the Trump dossier?

So what do you think this means?

That she was actively working for democrats? Why does she have an interest in sanctions possibly being discussed by the Trump WH?

[Adam Lambert]

The most successful and complicit players in causing this clusterfuck have been CNN, MSNBC, and the WaPo.
It's not even close.

yeah they should have just ignored it.

:lmao russian pawn.

[Adam Lambert]

wikileaks: we open governments*

*only american governments. dont ask us about russian governments. not interested. hi infowars fans! thanks for your support!

[TSA]

:lmao wikileaks

russian pawn. fuck you.

cop out af

was a single emailed dumped doctored yes or no?

[pgardn]

The most successful and complicit players in causing this clusterfuck have been CNN, MSNBC, and the WaPo.
It's not even close.

Sure thing.

They follow Trumps lies and give them a dash of conspiracy instead of complete ineptitude. Why do the Trumps lie so frequently and so incredibly poorly to give them a story to portray in the first place?

[TSA]

yeah they should have just ignored it.

:lmao russian pawn.

There is a middle ground between ignoring and 24/7 coverage every time Trump farts

[TSA]

So what do you think this means?

That she was actively working for democrats? Why does she have an interest in sanctions possibly being discussed by the Trump WH?

She had an interest in these sanctions well before Trump was in politics and it's well documented.

Actively working for the Democrats? No.
Working with GPS Fusion that was funded by Dems? Looking highly likely considering their past ties.

Again, just a coincidence the firm paid to compile a dossier on Trump is also tied to the lady that wanted to meet with Trump Jr?

[pgardn]

She had an interest in these sanctions well before Trump was in politics and it's well documented.

Actively working for the Democrats? No.
Working with GPS Fusion that was funded by Dems? Looking highly likely considering their past ties.

Again, just a coincidence the firm paid to compile a dossier on Trump is also tied to the lady that wanted to meet with Trump Jr?

She is a Russian official lobbying for sanctions to be dropped no matter who is in office. This time she portrayed how great it would be if Americans could adopt Russian children again if they could just let Vlad have a few people back in their spots in the US.

Its not that difficult. She works for Russia.

[pgardn]

Sure thing.

They follow Trumps lies and give them a dash of conspiracy instead of complete ineptitude. Why do the Trumps lie so frequently and so incredibly poorly to give them a story to portray in the first place?

[TSA]

She is a Russian official lobbying for sanctions to be dropped no matter who is in office. This time she portrayed how great it would be if Americans could adopt Russian children again if they could just let Vlad have a few people back in their spots in the US.

Its not that difficult. She works for Russia.

Again, just a coincidence the firm paid to compile a dossier on Trump is also tied to the lady that wanted to meet with Trump Jr?

[pgardn]

Again, just a coincidence the firm paid to compile a dossier on Trump is also tied to the lady that wanted to meet with Trump Jr?

Again it does not matter, we know what this lady does and how she plays games. She has got to be able to get whomevers ear in order to further Russian interests. She will play with whomever is, or has a chance to, decide things important to Russian interests.

[pgardn]

Sure thing.

They follow Trumps lies and give them a dash of conspiracy instead of complete ineptitude. Why do the Trumps lie so frequently and so incredibly poorly to give them a story to portray in the first place?


Why TSA?

[TSA]

Why TSA?

Amateurs that aren't used to having every single statement under a microscope.

[TSA]

Again it does not matter, we know what this lady does and how she plays games. She has got to be able to get whomevers ear in order to further Russian interests. She will play with whomever is, or has a chance to, decide things important to Russian interests.

:lol it does not matter

For a minute I thought you wanted to have an honest conversation. Silly me.

[pgardn]

Amateurs that aren't used to having every single statement under a microscope.


You mean amateur habitual liars?
HABITUAL.

They are a bunch of idiots that bring this on themselves. The cable TV needs entertainment for ad money and the WH stupidity gives it to them. Then Donald watches it and boils and then tells another lie. You don't have to be a politician to understand that lying on something meaningless just for personal grievances is pure stubborn stupidity.

[pgardn]

:lol it does not matter

For a minute I thought you wanted to have an honest conversation. Silly me.

Its hard to when you focus on a fallen twig after the entire forest has been felled by a comet.
You have your little side issues, go chase them. Once they become significant I might be interested.

Good night and have a pleasant tomorrow.

[TSA]

Its hard to when you focus on a fallen twig after the entire forest has been felled by a comet.
You have your little side issues, go chase them. Once they become significant I might be interested.

Good night and have a pleasant tomorrow.

You're already interested, you just can't fully accept what is happening as you slowly watch the Russia narrative fall apart and you haven't fully committed to it being bullshit. You're close though, and it's been pretty clear your views have shifted quite a bit in the last few months.

Good night Youngblood.

[Spurtacular]

spurraider21 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=31905)

Whose alt is he?

[ElNono]

Whose alt is he?

mine obviously

[Chris]

mine obviously

Good luck with the bar exam :tu

[Reck]

885084555421634561

Ummm the source is your own son. This guy is too stupid for his own good. :lol

[benefactor]

- Had my suspicions based on their identical posting style minus the broken english shtick... (yet still neurotically uses capitalization and punctuation)
- pavlov account was created in 2007, so it had to be a really old user (yet his first post was in may 2017, so it had been tucked away for a decade)
- pavlov's first post is on the same day as chump's most recent activity (may 30, 2017)
Nice work. He also has a penchant for going after Avante which was another one of Chump's pastimes.

[djohn2oo8]

Wouldn't you if you were being probed for a nothingburger? People like Chuck Schumer talking about 6 ways to Sunday, I'm looking for Shapiro and Cochran :lol

Yeah 19 people have all lawyered up because none of them did anything :lmao

[florige]

885084555421634561

Ummm the source is your own son. This guy is too stupid for his own good. :lol


Trump's lawyer is very good at deflecting and swerving around answering questions though. He was all over the place this morning when Lauer was drilling him about his douche son.

[pgardn]

You're already interested, you just can't fully accept what is happening as you slowly watch the Russia narrative fall apart and you haven't fully committed to it being bullshit. You're close though, and it's been pretty clear your views have shifted quite a bit in the last few months.

Good night Youngblood.

Of course my views shift.
They shift as new information comes forth. That's how it works. I don't try and actively seek information to confirm a certain view.

The Russia narrative had never been as devious and planned out as some have illustrated. I thought this from the very beginning. When Thread first freaked out and thought Donald was gone I posted he had rushed to judgement. The problem is people want this to be some well thought out plan that comes to fruition. So many times it turns out to be a general plan that gets bungled and has many twists and turns that are purely random or stupid mistakes or just intentions attributed to an individual that has been totally mischaracterized and has some weird hang ups that don't fit the narrative and could not have been predicted.

This is not Sherlock Holmes. Evidence and facts are messy and don't fit well. It's a very unsatisfactory puzzle in most cases. People get into too much fiction and get carried away with this spy and criminal stuff. If you read enough good history you see how bizarre and messed up well thought out plans become. Nice neat collusion is rare yet people concentrate on the stories that are easiest.They publish the easiest stories cause the reader can follow it.

Give me a link or link(s) that accurately describes your thoughts on this lady you are hung on. Or whatever. I'll read it. Honestly I can see Jr going into a meeting not even knowing dealing with foreign countries messing with elections has serious legal issues and can even be treated as treason. I would not doubt it a bit. He obviously does not understand what Russias intentions are under Putin. He may have been told by Dad there is a lot of money to be made in Russia and that's all they know or care about. Now they have larger responsibilities and are just stepping in shit constantly.

[djohn2oo8]

885120207873871872

[djohn2oo8]

885121927534301184

[Thread]

Trump's lawyer is very good at deflecting and swerving around answering questions though. He was all over the place this morning when Lauer was drilling him about his douche son.

He mopped the fuckin' floor with her fuckin' ass.

[Reck]

He mopped the fuckin' floor with her fuckin' ass.

Where were you yesterday? You missed all the fun.

[Thread]

Where were you yesterday? You missed all the fun.

Please. I was right here.

I saw ya's---here + on that CNNMSNBC set. You all were vibratin' when Jr. laid out his e-mails. That chubby fucker, the one on CNN---I thought he was going to have a coronary he was so fuckin' angry.

Jr.

[spurraider21]

Nice work. He also has a penchant for going after Avante which was another one of Chump's pastimes.
also fabbs

[boutons_deux]

Donald Trump Jr lied about every aspect of meeting. No one should believe 'it didn't go anywhere' (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/7/12/1679966/-Donald-Trump-Jr-lied-about-every-aspect-of-meeting-no-one-should-believe-it-didn-t-go-anywhere)


The progression of Trump Jr.'s position can be summarized like this:


* I never represented the campaign in a meeting with a Russian.

* Actually, I did, but the meeting was about adoption.


* Well, the pretext of the meeting was incriminating information about Clinton, but we didn't actually get any.


* This kind of meeting is totally normal.


* The meeting didn't seem like such a bad idea at the time because the media wasn't focused on Russia yet.



The one tiny nail on which Trump Jr is hanging what’s left of his story—and the only thing that’s protecting Kushner and Manafort—is

the idea that this meeting was trivial and didn’t lead to anything else.

Don’t believe it.

https://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/7/12/1679966/-Donald-Trump-Jr-lied-about-every-aspect-of-meeting-no-one-should-believe-it-didn-t-go-anywhere?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29

[Chris]

the idea that this meeting was trivial and didn’t lead to anything else.

Don’t believe it.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8fiqjcJuV1r9hets.gif

[boutons_deux]

Natalia Veselnitskaya was no stranger, she was important to Trump's business (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/7/11/1679688/-Natalia-Veselnitskaya-was-no-stranger-she-was-important-to-Trump-s-business)

Veselnitskaya’s official reason for coming to the United States really did have to do with the Magnitsky Act. Not lobbying against the act, but acting as an attorney in a lawsuit against a Russian company accused of money-laundering for the mob. (http://www.thedailybeast.com/us-prosecutors-are-out-to-crack-russias-crooked-money-machine)

The specific case in question here is against Prevezon Holdings Ltd., a Cyprus-registered company.


How did Prevezon Holding supposedly move mob money into the United States? By snapping up expensive condos and other real estate. And who was it that Veselnitskaya had come to fight after she made her pitch to Donald Trump Junior?

U. S. District Attorney Preet Bharara.

Donald Trump’s personal attorney has openly bragged that he was the one who told Trump to sack Bharara … for a very specific reason.

According to four sources that spoke to ProPublica, Marc Kasowitz, Trump’s personal lawyer and his primary counsel on matters related to the Russia investigation, had bragged that he was largely responsible for getting the U.S. attorney for New York's Southern District fired.

“This guy is going to get you,” Kasowitz recalled saying to Trump, according to one of the sources.


The connection between Bharara’s cases and Trump–Russia wasn’t immediately obvious. But Bharara hinted heavily (https://twitter.com/PreetBharara/status/841000145630175232) that he had been ousted to close down a investigation of corruption related to Trump.

Prevezon appears to be yet another

holding company created expressly for the purpose of turning Russian mob money into American real estate in deals that allow oligarchs to clean their stolen funds and US real estate moguls to pocket fat profits.

Deals exactly like those Trump is known to have used to escape bankruptcy. (https://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/1/9/1618540/-Was-Donald-Trump-bailed-out-of-bankruptcy-by-Russia-crime-bosses)

Emin Agalarov was more than just someone Trump Jr. had met during the Miss Universe pageant. He was a key contact for the Trump Organization, and their partner on potential deals in Moscow.

Natalia Veselnitskaya was also clearly someone other than the nameless woman who showed up to give Trump Jr. a talk he didn’t want to hear.

Both of them go right back to the core of Trump’s business—which was money laundering.
If all of this is making the world seem pretty small … it’s because it’s all connected.

And the center of that connection is Donald Trump.

https://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/7/11/1679688/-Natalia-Veselnitskaya-was-no-stranger-she-was-important-to-Trump-s-business?detail=emaildkre

[boutons_deux]

I'm sure Mueller's team, with financial crime specialists, has seen, or will see, all of Trash's financials, going back many years.

[Thread]

Trump President. Not Clinton.

[boutons_deux]

Trump Jr.’s mysterious meeting with a Russia-connected think tank

Trump’s son says there are no more shoes to drop. Is he sure?

One meeting that Donald Trump Jr. has not fully explained is a speech in Paris on October 11, 2017, just weeks before the election.

In his capacity as a key member of the Trump campaign, Trump Jr. spoke at the meeting at the request of a French think tank, The Center of Political and Foreign Affairs.

Trump Jr. was likely paid about $50,000 for the speech, according to the speaking fees listed by talent booking agency that represents him.

The CFPR has a reputation in the French press as being “openly connected to the Russians.”

It is difficult, however, to track just how connected they are, as France does not require it’s nonprofit organizations to disclose their finances.

The founders of the center have

worked closely with the Russian government to end the conflict in Syria and in 2016,

nominated Russian President Vladimir for the Nobel Peace Prize. :lol

The center’s director, Fabien Baussart, has been described as “a former lobbyist for Russian oligarchs in France.”

He cited Putin’s “peace-making efforts” as reason for his nomination.

One of the founders, Baussart’s wife Randa Kassis, heads a political party called the Movement for a Pluralistic Society, which is in part endorsed by Russia in support of Syrian president Bashar al-Asssad.

https://thinkprogress.org/https-thinkprogress-org-trump-jr-s-mysterious-meeting-9b768b445e74

yet another Trash family payment from Pootin.

[djohn2oo8]

885232750286053376
:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

885233148367429632

[djohn2oo8]

885235580413595649

[Chris]

In the fall of 2016 he mopped the floor with her wide ass.

[djohn2oo8]

885249216393732096

[tlongII]

Indictments coming soon!

[djohn2oo8]

In the fall of 2016 he mopped the floor with her wide ass.

885203799362727936
Now Mueller will wipe the floor with his

[djohn2oo8]

885248325427089409
:lmao Chris
:lmao TSA
:lmao Tschlong

[Chris]

885203799362727936
Now Mueller will wipe the floor with his

"Promises, promises...." - Ernie "The Big Cat" Ladd

[djohn2oo8]

885250008773210113

[Chris]

885248325427089409
:lmao Chris
:lmao TSA
:lmao Tschlong

Las Vegas in 2013? :lol

[djohn2oo8]

"Promises, promises...." - Ernie "The Big Cat" Ladd


885248325427089409
:lmao Chris
:lmao TSA
:lmao Tschlong

[djohn2oo8]

"But I don't know them" :cry

[Chris]

Las Vegas in 2013? :lol

[Pavlov]

Pointing out they know Trump four years not help.

[djohn2oo8]

Pointing out they know Trump four years not help.

:lol

[djohn2oo8]

885251664713834498
:lmao

[TSA]

885203799362727936
Now Mueller will wipe the floor with his

I know you don't read more than a tweet headline but this is worth the read if you want a buzzkill.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/07/12/what-is-collusion-215366

[djohn2oo8]

885262822468444160

[djohn2oo8]

885112516577304576

[spurraider21]

885251664713834498
:lmao
step 1 - russia had nothing to do with the election
step 2 - ok, russia tried to influence the election, but there was no collusion between them and trump campaign
now we're entering step 3 - ok, there was collusion, but it was legal collusion

reminds me of climate change

1 - there is no global warming
2 - ok there is, but humans have no effect
3 - ok humans have some effect, but we dont know how much
4 - ...

[spurraider21]

https://i.gyazo.com/ee14ee886af3748faa99d1451b6fc8e3.png

[lefty]

:lol Fredo Trump

[lefty]

"Jerry, Fredo was weak!"

[spurraider21]

:lol Fredo Trump


"Jerry, Fredo was weak!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X9E9n6GHC8

[boutons_deux]

"The Russian lawyer on the other end of the Trump Jr. meeting,

Nataliya Veselnitskaya, just so happens to represent a Russian oligarch (http://www.thedailybeast.com/team-trump-secretly-met-rep-of-accused-russian-crime-family),

Denis Katsyv, who was under indictment for laundering millions of dollars through America before

the case was abruptly settled out of court by Attorney General Jeff Sessions’ :lol office earlier this year.

The attorney general prosecuting Katsyv? Preet Bharara. Trash: You're Fired! :lol

Those millions of dollars were part of a staggering $230 million tax evasion case discovered by Sergei Magnitisky,

who was later murdered in a Moscow prison and

whose name was given to the package of sanctions that the Obama administration slapped on the Russian government in response.

Veselnitskaya wanted to discuss the repeal of the Magnitsky Act and repeal of the sanctions…in exchange for damaging information on Hillary."

http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/07/12/attorney-general-fired-trump-just-gave-great-response-trump-jr-s-russian-scandal/

Trash and his entourage are "six degrees of Kevin Bacon" from murderous Pootin and his Russian mafiya. :lol

Sessions let's the Russian escape with $225M, after having "forgotten" meetings with Russians

[boutons_deux]

Russian Officials Overheard Discussing Trump Associates Before Campaign Began

It isn’t clear whether Mr. Trump’s associates had any connection to his presidential aspirations

Updated July 12, 2017 9:26 p.m. ETWASHINGTON—Investigators are re-examining conversations detected by U.S. intelligence agencies in spring 2015 that captured Russian government officials discussing associates of Donald Trump,

according to current and former U.S. officials,

a move prompted by revelations that the president’s eldest son met with a Russian lawyer last year.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/russian-officials-overheard-discussing-trump-associates-before-campaign-began-1499890354?utm_source=huffingtonpost.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=pubexchange_article

Russians trying to "turn" anybody close to or in Trash org

[boutons_deux]

Trump Just Got Hit With A New Lawsuit Over DNC Email Leak

The 2016 presidential campaign of Donald Trump and one of Trump’s informal advisors, Roger Stone, are the subject of an invasion of privacy lawsuit (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3893506-Invasion-of-Privacy-lawsuit-complaint-Trump.html)filed in U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C. over emails hacked by Russia that exposed their personal information to the world.

The suit does not have any great new revelations but in its 44-pages, it is a comprehensive catalog of all the public evidence that Russia colluded with Trump to turn the election in his direction and to defeat Secretary Hillary Clinton.

That includes everything from Trump softening the Republican platform plank on Russia’s brutal invasion of the Ukraine, to Donald Trump Jr.’s June 2016 meeting with a lawyer connected to the Russian government.

If a federal judge allows the suit to go forward,

the three defendants would be able to use the discovery process to demand documents and do interviews under oath that would be the equivalent of another investigation into the Russian interference in the election.

http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/07/12/trump-just-got-hit-new-lawsuit-dnc-email-leak/

[RandomGuy]

I know you don't read more than a tweet headline but this is worth the read if you want a buzzkill.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/07/12/what-is-collusion-215366

Still think there was no high-level attempts at collusion?

:lmao

[RandomGuy]

Clapper himself said there was no collusion with the Russians

Trump junior says otherwise.

[RandomGuy]

James Clapper was in the know and said there was no evidence of collusion with the Russians. Did this shit run so deep that the Director of Intelligence didn't even know about it? :wow :lol

It ran so deep Trump jr., Manafort, and Kushner knew about it.

[RandomGuy]

For weeks I've said there has been no evidence of collusion with the Russians as stated by Clapper and top Democrats. Has any of that changed after today?

The premature circle jerk you've all had this morning has been entertaining.

For weeks you didn't know about Trump Jr.'s emails.

[RandomGuy]

Did Comey say they found collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign?

Maybe Comey found out about Trump Jr.'s emails.

[RandomGuy]

The only thing confirmed here is your developmental disability.

I asked if they found collusion, not if they were investigating you dipshit.

So did they find collusion yes or no?

Trump Jr. found the collusion.

[RandomGuy]

Pretty simple question I asked. I'm not watching TV.

What new information came out from Comey today? Did he say there was evidence of collusion?

He couldn't talk about the investigation because he was a government official. Unlike Trump Jr. who could admit to collusion.

[RandomGuy]

Was any evidence of collusion presented today? Did anyone even hint at there being collusion?

If you answered no to both of these you are still holding the L and eating the brown cake.

Yes. Yes.

Trump Jr. provided pretty solid evidence.

[RandomGuy]

Shit, I could do this all day.

4 pages of search results for posts with the word "collusion" by someone with TSA in their name...

[RandomGuy]

"The Russian lawyer on the other end of the Trump Jr. meeting,

Nataliya Veselnitskaya, just so happens to represent a Russian oligarch (http://www.thedailybeast.com/team-trump-secretly-met-rep-of-accused-russian-crime-family),

Denis Katsyv, who was under indictment for laundering millions of dollars through America before

the case was abruptly settled out of court by Attorney General Jeff Sessions’ :lol office earlier this year.

The attorney general prosecuting Katsyv? Preet Bharara. Trash: You're Fired! :lol

Those millions of dollars were part of a staggering $230 million tax evasion case discovered by Sergei Magnitisky,

who was later murdered in a Moscow prison and

whose name was given to the package of sanctions that the Obama administration slapped on the Russian government in response.

Veselnitskaya wanted to discuss the repeal of the Magnitsky Act and repeal of the sanctions…in exchange for damaging information on Hillary."

http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/07/12/attorney-general-fired-trump-just-gave-great-response-trump-jr-s-russian-scandal/

Trash and his entourage are "six degrees of Kevin Bacon" from murderous Pootin and his Russian mafiya. :lol

Sessions let's the Russian escape with $225M, after having "forgotten" meetings with Russians




No conflict of interest there. Nope. None. :rolleyes

[RandomGuy]

The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.
This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.
What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?
I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first.


Thanks Rob I appreciate that. I am on the road at the moment but perhaps I just speak to Emin first. Seems we have some time and if it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer. Could we do a call first thing next week when I am back?
Best,
Don

:lmao

[RandomGuy]

I'm sure Mueller's team, with financial crime specialists, has seen, or will see, all of Trash's financials, going back many years.

This shit will drag out for months.

So we have:

Trump publically asking for Russia's help in a speech.
Sessions lying under oath about meeting Russians
Flynn lying about meeting Russians
Manafort's business dealings with Russians.
Trump Jr., Manafort, and Kushner enthusiastically taking a meeting when told it was "sensitive" information from the Russian government.

At this point, it takes a special kind of stupid to not see a pattern.

[boutons_deux]

"Sessions lying under oath about meeting Russians"

... and Sessions letting son of Russian oligarch off with $6M MONEY LAUNDERING fine instead of $230M, that son represented by same Russian lawyer that Trash Jr met.

[Reck]

Trump junior says otherwise.

You're quoting one of TSA old quotes. Clapper said that's not what he meant.

Back when Trump even put a background pic of James Clapper in his twitter about no collusion. :lol

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/may/12/donald-trump/trumps-mostly-false-claim-clapper-said-no-collusio/

[Thread]

You're quoting one of TSA old quotes. Clapper said that's not what he meant.

Back when Trump even put a background pic of James Clapper in his twitter about no collusion. :lol

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/may/12/donald-trump/trumps-mostly-false-claim-clapper-said-no-collusio/

Pathological liar.

[Reck]

Pathological liar.

Maybe so. But that didn't stop Trump supporters from taking Clapper's side and word then.

[Thread]

Maybe so. But that didn't stop Trump supporters from taking Clapper's side and word then.

True.

[RandomGuy]

What evidence does the FBI have? And why haven't they done anything since 2011?

Are you now admitting Trump was under surveillance?

FBI now has Trump Jr.'s emails.


The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.
This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.
What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?
I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first.


Thanks Rob I appreciate that. I am on the road at the moment but perhaps I just speak to Emin first. Seems we have some time and if it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer. Could we do a call first thing next week when I am back?
Best,
Don

:lmao

[RandomGuy]

So no new evidence or any hint of there being collusion. Thanks.

I guess we have new evidence now.


The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.
This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.
What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?
I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first.


Thanks Rob I appreciate that. I am on the road at the moment but perhaps I just speak to Emin first. Seems we have some time and if it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer. Could we do a call first thing next week when I am back?
Best,
Don

:lmao

[RandomGuy]

You used to bring good discussion to the table, now you just bring shit takes and shittier insult attempts.

The investigation into whether or not Trump was under surveillance is just getting going, and after today it's pretty much been confirmed he's been under surveillance.

How is the Trump/Russia collusion investigation since last July shaping up for you?

Seems to be shaping up just fine. Now we have Trump Jr., Manafort, and Kushner meeting with Russian under pretext of getting "sensitive" dirt on Hillary from Russian government.


The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.
This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.
What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?
I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first.


Thanks Rob I appreciate that. I am on the road at the moment but perhaps I just speak to Emin first. Seems we have some time and if it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer. Could we do a call first thing next week when I am back?
Best,
Don

:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

885525669643505664

[RandomGuy]

The only foolish ones are those still trying to push the Trump/Russia collusion.

Trump Jr. is very foolish.


The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.
This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.
What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?
I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first.


Thanks Rob I appreciate that. I am on the road at the moment but perhaps I just speak to Emin first. Seems we have some time and if it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer. Could we do a call first thing next week when I am back?
Best,
Don

:lmao

[RandomGuy]

I was focusing more on Benghazi.

They can keep claiming Russian collusion for years but the facts will be out long before then. Top Dems are already starting to back away from the Russian collusion

Bangazi. :lmao

Top republicans backing away from Trump after Jr.'s emails.


The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.
This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.
What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?
I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first.


Thanks Rob I appreciate that. I am on the road at the moment but perhaps I just speak to Emin first. Seems we have some time and if it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer. Could we do a call first thing next week when I am back?
Best,
Don

:lmao

[RandomGuy]

:lol CrowdStrike methods/report just got shit on yet again.

No one has been able to attribute to Russia, no one.

ETA: but you have a point since most people like yourself have just accepted "Russia hacked the election"

Crowdstrike report is doing fine.

Unlike Trump Jr. Manafort, and Kushner.


The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.
This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.
What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?
I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first.


Thanks Rob I appreciate that. I am on the road at the moment but perhaps I just speak to Emin first. Seems we have some time and if it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer. Could we do a call first thing next week when I am back?
Best,
Don

:lmao

[RandomGuy]

The only thing fabricated so far has been the Trump/Russia collusion.

It's going to be hilarious when the only people indicted are the Dems who created and pushed the false narrative and then called for an investigation.

The only thing fabricated right now is your credibility.


The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.
This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.
What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?
I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first.


Thanks Rob I appreciate that. I am on the road at the moment but perhaps I just speak to Emin first. Seems we have some time and if it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer. Could we do a call first thing next week when I am back?
Best,
Don

:lmao

[RandomGuy]

How many times must you be told to read the actual article before falling for the sensational Tweet?



"One source suggested the official [American] investigation was making progress. “They now have specific concrete and corroborative evidence of collusion,” the source said. “This is between people in the Trump campaign and agents of [Russian] influence relating to the use of hacked material.”

That's a bombshell because evidence that Trump advisers were involved in any way with the release of hacked Hillary Clinton-related emails would be an impeachment-level smoking gun in a scandal that currently involves a lot of reports about sketchy relationships but no proof of clearly illegal conduct. It's only sort of a bombshell because, well, who is this one random source and why does he/she seem to be the only person anywhere who knows this potentially world-shaking information? :lol

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/04/13/_concrete_evidence_of_trump_russia_collusion_exist s_the_guardian_reports.html?wpsrc=sh_all_dt_tw_ru

An impeachment level smoking gun you say? Do tell.


The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.
This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.
What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?
I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first.


Thanks Rob I appreciate that. I am on the road at the moment but perhaps I just speak to Emin first. Seems we have some time and if it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer. Could we do a call first thing next week when I am back?
Best,
Don

:lmao

[RandomGuy]

0BS5amEq7Fc

:cry djohn2oo8 :cry

:cry TSA :cry


The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.
This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.
What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?
I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first.


Thanks Rob I appreciate that. I am on the road at the moment but perhaps I just speak to Emin first. Seems we have some time and if it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer. Could we do a call first thing next week when I am back?
Best,
Don

:lmao

[RandomGuy]

Bad news for the Trump-Russia tinfoil-hat brigade

During a Capitol Hill hearing this week over his investigation into allegations President Trump worked with the Kremlin to steal the election, FBI Director James Comey showed his hand, and he’s not holding any aces. In fact, he’s got a whole lot of nothing.

In an exchange with Democratic Sen. Al Franken, Comey revealed the assumptions undergirding his investigation, which started in the heat of the 2016 presidential campaign, despite any specific evidence of a crime.

“What is your assessment of why the Russian government had a clear preference for President Trump?” Franken asked.

“One is he wasn’t Hillary Clinton,” Comey replied, “who [Russian President Vladimir] Putin hated and wanted to harm in any possible way; and so he was her opponent, so necessarily they supported him.”

Also, “Putin believed he would be more able to make deals . . . with someone with a business background,” the FBI chief added. But, a disappointed Franken pressed, wasn’t it also because Trump was “ensnared in their web of patronage?” No, said Comey.

So there you have it. The conclusion that Russia tried to steal the election for Trump is based on pure speculation about how Putin thinks. The notion Trump was in Putin’s back pocket doesn’t even factor into it.

There’s more bad news for Franken and other tin-foil-hat-wearing Democrats peddling the theory Trump is Putin’s Manchurian candidate. It turns out the FBI probe doesn’t even focus on Trump or his key campaign aides. It centers almost exclusively on a former Merrill Lynch executive who was based in Moscow a decade ago.

His name is Carter Page, and he never formally worked for the Trump campaign. In fact, he first showed up on the FBI’s radar three years before Trump announced his candidacy.

Page is the main investigative target and apparently the only one remotely tied to the Trump campaign to have his communications targeted with a FISA warrant. To obtain that surveillance warrant, the FBI relied on a discredited dossier, which will make it hard to prosecute Page.

The opposition research firm behind the dossier, which alleges nefarious collusion between Trump and Putin, is Fusion GPS, which conducts “political disinformation campaigns” — sometimes for Moscow. “The relationship casts further doubt on an already highly dubious dossier,” Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley wrote the Justice Department in a recent letter.

Adding to suspicions, the author of the dodgy dossier may have been on the FBI’s payroll, according to Grassley. The GOP senator asked Comey about “payments” the bureau made to researcher Christopher Steele, and Comey dodged the question without denying payments.

So nine months in, this is where the FBI’s investigation stands: No evidence of collaboration between the Trump campaign and Moscow, something even Obama’s intelligence czar verified. No charges against any Trump aides for espionage. And one case against a single, tangentially connected suspect built on tenuous evidence at best.

Even Comey’s theory about Putin favoring Trump lacks direct evidence. In fact, there is just as much evidence Russia hackers were trying to hurt Trump.

Yes, Russian hackers may have publicized batches of emails from the DNC and the Clinton campaign chairman. But the RNC was also a Russian hacking target. The only reason hackers got deeper into the DNC is because the DNC and John Podesta bit on phishing scams.

In September, moreover, Russian hackers also leaked embarrassing emails about Trump from ex-Republican Secretary of State Colin Powell, who called the GOP nominee a “national disgrace” and an “idiot.”

And if Russia really wanted to hurt Clinton and the Democrats, why do it withhold the coup de grace: a potentially devastating memo written by a Democratic operative who expressed confidence that Obama’s attorney general would keep the Clinton email investigation “from going too far” and ensure her victory?

A copy of the document, which might have convinced already distrustful voters of her guilt, was intercepted by the FBI.

After Wednesday’s Senate Judiciary Committee hearing, CNN asked the ranking Democrat, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, if she had evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government during the election. “Not at this time,” Feinstein sheepishly replied.

The case against Trump is paper-thin. What started as a political fishing expedition has nonetheless turned into a full-fledged witch hunt, fanned by a Democrat-dominated media hellbent on demonizing and destroying Trump and his policie

http://nypost.com/2017/05/04/bad-news-for-the-trump-russia-tinfoil-hat-brigade/

Bad news for the Tongue-Down-Trumps-Trousers brigade.


The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.
This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.
What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?
I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first.


Thanks Rob I appreciate that. I am on the road at the moment but perhaps I just speak to Emin first. Seems we have some time and if it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer. Could we do a call first thing next week when I am back?
Best,
Don

:lmao

[RandomGuy]

...
So nine months in, this is where the FBI’s investigation stands: No evidence of collaboration between the Trump campaign and Moscow, something even Obama’s intelligence czar verified. No charges against any Trump aides for espionage. And one case against a single, tangentially connected suspect built on tenuous evidence at best.

:rollin

9.5 months in we have the first evidence.

At this point, given all the lying about meeting with Russia, it seems this won't be the last. Mueller is going to roll out some big fucking microscopes now, and your boy can't stand the light.


The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.
This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.
What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?
I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first.


Thanks Rob I appreciate that. I am on the road at the moment but perhaps I just speak to Emin first. Seems we have some time and if it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer. Could we do a call first thing next week when I am back?
Best,
Don

:lmao

[RandomGuy]

(wipes eyes from laughing)

Ok, enough for now. I only really got to the first page of TSA posts asking for evidence of "collusion". 3 more to go.

[TSA]

Still think there was no high-level attempts at collusion?

:lmao

More than just attempts. The DNC actually colluded with the Ukranian government and Dems also paid a British national for dirt on Trump.

[Chucho]

LOL, more "mucha ado about nothing", just like with the obstruction that blew up in their face.

Nothing will happen. Gotta love Chicken Littles just frothing at the mouth for something...anything to happen. I guess they're learning patience, which I guess is some kind of indirect benefit of their witch hunts.

[TSA]

Shit, I could do this all day.

4 pages of search results for posts with the word "collusion" by someone with TSA in their name...

How about you try and explain the crime

[Pavlov]

DNC*ding*
Dems*ding*

[boutons_deux]

Time TRASHING Trash Jr

http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/07/13/time-just-torched-donald-trump-jr-brutal-new-cover/

[TSA]

An impeachment level smoking gun you say? Do tell.



Impeachment level smoking gun? :lmao

Do tell :lmao

[TSA]

ElNono spurraider21

legal thoughts on this


Recieving "something of value" means property or material. Not information. The idea of an information economy did not exist at the time the laws were written. Going to get information from a foreign government is not illegal. Changing the definition of "something of value" would require a ruling on the matter by the Supreme Court.
And doing so would severely impede any future Presidential challengers from removing the incumbent party as they already have access to the information generated by law enforcement and the national security apparatus. And it would mean a presidential candidate would be surrendering a right that any other US citizen would have just to run for the office.

[boutons_deux]

Kushner Just Admitted He Lied About Dozens Of Secret Foreign Contacts

The New York Times reports (http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/341844-kushner-updated-disclosure-to-add-more-than-100-foreign-contacts) that since he originally submitted

his disclosure forms, Kushner has updated them three times, for a total of more than one hundred new foreign contacts.

How Kushner could have conveniently forgotten so many people is anyone’s guess.

As Kushner’s lack of transparency grows more pronounced, calls for his security clearance to be revoked grow louder.

“In a normal world, we wouldn’t be talking about security clearances, Jared Kushner would have been fired about four hours ago,” Senator Chris Murphy said on MSNBC.

http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/07/13/kushner-just-admitted-lied-dozens-secret-foreign-contacts/

[boutons_deux]

Pence’s Spokesman Just Got Asked If VP Met With Russians. His Answer Is Very Disturbing

On the unofficial state propaganda network, Fox News, Pence Press Secretary Marc Lotter was asked on three separate occasions

if the Vice President ever met with representatives from Russia.

On all three occasions, Lotter declined to answer — even after he was pressed with a direct “is that a yes or is that a no?”


The cagey evasion of a simple question is by no means an admission of guilt, but it is a strong indication that the President’s scandal stretches at least a heartbeat away from his office.

If Pence did not meet with Russian agents, the answer would be an easy one.

If, however, Pence did collude with foreign adversaries in an effort to win election, the questions are about to get much more difficult.

Based on what we’re seeing out of the Pence’s office, the Vice President would be best served not by measuring the Oval Office drapes but preparing to defend against his own ouster as well.

http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/07/13/pences-spokesman-just-got-asked-vp-met-russians-answer-disturbing/

[RandomGuy]

nuh, uh, no evidence of any collusion not no how, never will be, Dems know it


Please Russian government, give me some damaging information on Hillary, I would love your sensitive information and cross my heart won't tell the FBI about it.


well, it depends on what the definition of "is" is...

:lmao

[Chris]

https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/19956587_929895737151137_8789265103754614275_o.jpg ?oh=304fa4b3a3a0f6f8f7cdeeadd3649da3&oe=59F86D0B

[clambake]

donna is yellow.

[RandomGuy]

How about you try and explain the crime


This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.
What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?
I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first.

How about you explain to me how the Trump campaign didn't have a systemic contact with a hostile foreign power that appears to have a sustained hacking campaign against our electoral process designed to undermine it in any way possible.

[RandomGuy]

LOL, more "mucha ado about nothing", just like with the obstruction that blew up in their face.

Nothing will happen. Gotta love Chicken Littles just frothing at the mouth for something...anything to happen. I guess they're learning patience, which I guess is some kind of indirect benefit of their witch hunts.

At this point, after months of saying "no evidence", you really want to plant your flag and die on that ground? Really?

Let me guess, next you will want to be a contractor for one of Trumps projects, that always works out so well.

[spurraider21]

big cartoon
i see it includes the russia uranium deal

lets talk about this one for a bit.

1) who are the russians you speak of? is this the russian government?

2) can any of this american uranium be transported to russia?

3) can the government of russia use any of this uranium?

4) did clinton have the power to veto or approve the deal?

[TSA]

:lmao

How about you try and explain the crime

[RandomGuy]

ElNono spurraider21

legal thoughts on this

How about your legal thoughts on the level of morals displayed by Trump and his kids?


It was not a hard call. When someone says the Russian government wants to give you secret intelligence on your opponent in a presidential campaign, you don't take the meeting, at least not without the FBI alerted and listening in.

Whether you're an experienced campaign hand like Paul Manafort or a novice like Donald Trump Jr., that decision should be a simple one. I'll leave it up to Robert Mueller to determine what laws were broken, but illegality aside, the immorality of working with a foreign adversary to win a race for the White House should be obvious on its face.

But it wasn't obvious to Trump Jr., who wasn't just willing to listen to a supposed "Russian government attorney" but was so excited he wrote "if it's what you say I love it."

What happened in the meeting itself is hardly relevant. The email chain Trump Jr. eagerly released on Twitter proved once and for all the campaign was delirious at the opportunity to work with the Russian government to beat Hillary Clinton. After months of denials that there were any meetings with Russian officials, followed by months of denials that there were any inappropriate meetings with Russian officials, we now know the truth.
The truth is Donald Trump Jr. lacks the most rudimentary moral compass.

One that worked, even crudely, would have resulted in a very different email chain from the one revealed Tuesday. Instead, he gleefully went down the wrong path and even now doesn't seem to recognize he's done anything wrong.

He's a real chip off the old block, isn't he? His father's defining quality, other than a need for attention so desperate it borders on pathetic, is his inability to admit a mistake of any sort, at any scale. Trump's been caught in simple lies, but he's never copped to a single one. He still claims to believe 3 to 5 million people voted illegally in November's election. At best he'll shift the blame to someone else, like when he famously said "someone gave me the wrong information" about the historical nature of his election victory.

His inability to see he has done anything wrong is also perhaps one of the most dangerous vices President Trump enjoys. A president who is congenitally unable to learn from his mistakes is one who will never learn to fix them. Trump is constantly mad at some senior West Wing staffer or another, blaming Reince Priebus or Sean Spicer or Steve Bannon for whatever pickle he's in, totally unable to realize no staff shakeup will ever solve his fundamental problem: Donald J. Trump.

That same quality is what keeps fueling the Russia collusion story. (And after Trump Jr.’s email release, we can comfortably call it a collusion story – at the very least, they tried.) Trump can't admit he made a mistake telling Comey to lay off Flynn. He can't admit his campaign had inappropriate contacts with Russian officials. The entire investigation must be a hoax concocted by a vicious media and his political enemies because the alternative – his judgment being questionable – is unthinkable.

Admitting you're wrong is losing, and Trumps never lose – not when they drive their businesses into bankruptcy, not when they're caught in a lie and certainly not when the Russians want to serve you victory from a gold-plated samovar.

That's the lesson Trump passed down to his children. The man who scammed millions of dollars out of people with a fake university and regularly refused to pay contractors the full amount he had promised them wasn't teaching his oldest son how to treat people with decency or fairness. Donald Trump Jr. learned from his father that life is a zero-sum game, that winning always means someone else loses and that winning is the only thing that matters.

Of course Trump Jr. took the meeting. It never would have occurred to him to turn down information that could help his father succeed, no matter where it came from. The eldest Trump child asked himself what his father would do, and no doubt the answer was clear as a cloudless summer sky reflecting off the windows of Trump Tower.

He did what his father would do. And it tells you everything you need to know about them both.

[Reck]

https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/19956587_929895737151137_8789265103754614275_o.jpg ?oh=304fa4b3a3a0f6f8f7cdeeadd3649da3&oe=59F86D0B

:lol Russian Saint's Basil cathedral in the background.
:lol nothing burger

[RandomGuy]

How about you try and explain the crime


The man who scammed millions of dollars out of people with a fake university and regularly refused to pay contractors the full amount he had promised them wasn't teaching his oldest son how to treat people with decency or fairness. Donald Trump Jr. learned from his father that life is a zero-sum game, that winning always means someone else loses and that winning is the only thing that matters.

I am going to guess that the inept bunch of morons, i.e. the Trump family, has committed something. Trump may have been somewhat careful, but has never been subjected to a serious investigation, so I doubt his dumb ass was as careful as he should have been.

It is a matter of time, let the investigation finish.

[TSA]

How about you explain to me how the Trump campaign didn't have a systemic contact with a hostile foreign power that appears to have a sustained hacking campaign against our electoral process designed to undermine it in any way possible.

Do you realize who you are quoting?

What high level and sensitive information are you claiming the Russian government sent with the lawyer who says she's not with the Russian government?

[spurraider21]

ElNono (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8054) spurraider21 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=31905)

legal thoughts on this
would need some context on this... also i dont know if i can just take this guy's word at face value. "the idea of an information economy did not exist at the time the laws were written." do i just believe that because some guy says so? i dont know the answer to that, but this would need some research to back each of these claims.

[TSA]

The man who scammed millions of dollars out of people with a fake university and regularly refused to pay contractors the full amount he had promised them wasn't teaching his oldest son how to treat people with decency or fairness. Donald Trump Jr. learned from his father that life is a zero-sum game, that winning always means someone else loses and that winning is the only thing that matters.

Can you find me a single person charged with a crime for attempting to get campaign opposition research from a foreign government?

[RandomGuy]

Do you realize who you are quoting?

What high level and sensitive information are you claiming the Russian government sent with the lawyer who says she's not with the Russian government ?

I am quoting someone pointing out the moral bankruptcy of Trump, and by extension the Republican party. Does that bother you?

[RandomGuy]

Can you find me a single person charged with a crime for attempting to get campaign opposition research from a foreign government?

No. There are multiple ongoing investigations that have not completed.

Can you show me a completed investigation that concluded that no crimes were committed?

[spurraider21]

why do you keep quoting him in comic sans font?

[RandomGuy]

What high level and sensitive information are you claiming the Russian government sent with the lawyer who says she's not with the Russian government?

That particular meeting didn't have any. There sure were an awful lot of meetings that Trump et al. "forgot".

What about all the other meetings? What was discussed and passed back and forth in those meetings?