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Pavlov
10-02-2019, 12:05 PM
https://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Gorka-McLovin.jpg
RandomGuy
10-02-2019, 12:09 PM
Again with the Mr. Magoo routine.
It is all they have, i.e. to literally deny reality.
Another yes.
We are indeed getting somewhere.
Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?
You might find this link helpful:
https://www.apnews.com/94fdeaddc6b34c02b97278674b87541e
Why not just cut the bullshit 20 questions routine and get right back to where we started and where you are trying to go with all this.
Threatening another country with the withholding of funding unless they dig up dirt on your political enemies is an impeachable offense. It is exactly the kind of abuse of power that the impeachment clause was put into the constitution for.
Ukraine was never threatened to have the funds withheld unless they dug up dirt on Biden. Maybe you can find someone else who wants to discuss events that never transpired, but I’m done with it.
https://mobile.twitter.com/LeeSmithDC/status/1179446069375229952
RandomGuy
10-02-2019, 04:02 PM
=5th time
Should Trump be impeached if he starts threatening countries for dirt on his political opponents, TSA? Simple yes or no question.
Sure [denial that denial that a threat was made for dirt]
Well, we have a standard we can both agree on [threatening another country for dirt on a political rival is an impeachable offense]. A step forward.
Is Ukraine dependent on US security guarantees and military aid to protect itself from Russia? yes or no.
The US contributes a lot to the protection of Ukraine. [denial that a threat was made for dirt]
Another yes.
We are indeed getting somewhere.
Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?
You might find this link helpful:
https://www.apnews.com/94fdeaddc6b34c02b97278674b87541e
[repeats denial that denial that a threat was made for dirt]
Not really an answer. We are attempting to establish facts concerning what you yourself admit should be impeachable. Hard to do when you fail to offer any.
The question remains.
Ukraine is dependent on the US for military and economic support.
Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?
Not really an answer. We are attempting to establish facts concerning what you yourself admit should be impeachable. Hard to do when you fail to offer any.
The question remains.
Ukraine is dependent on the US for military and economic support.
Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?
What I said should be impeachable didn’t happen. You are trying to connect dots that don’t exist.
https://mobile.twitter.com/DeadlineWH/status/1179522092200579073
:lol feeling the heat
Spurs Homer
10-02-2019, 07:57 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/DeadlineWH/status/1179522092200579073
:lol feeling the heat
didnt look worried to me
didnt melt down like the traitor in chief either
lolololol
https://mobile.twitter.com/DeadlineWH/status/1179522092200579073
:lol feeling the heat
https://mobile.twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1179584447966060547
https://mobile.twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1179584447966060547
Pavlov
10-02-2019, 10:08 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/DeadlineWH/status/1179522092200579073
:lol feeling the heat:lol Durham is you new messiah now?
How many does that make?
ElNono
10-03-2019, 02:15 AM
The US contributes a lot to the protection of Ukraine. And Trump didn't threaten Ukraine for dirt on his political opponents. Why do you continue to try and discuss things that never happened?
He doesn't have to threaten. Asking is bad enough. Why does this continue to escape you?
Spurs Homer
10-03-2019, 10:05 AM
“Russia, if you’re listening...”
ukraine.....
now china.....
he is shooting someone on fifth ave
and the DUCKS - of the world will blame the person with a bullet in their head!
Amerikkka!!!
boutons_deux
10-04-2019, 07:57 AM
Russian witness thrown from a window after his name was exposed by Trump Tower lobbyist
a witness who was taking part in a U.S. trial aimed at Russian corruption —
and who fell from a window to his death :lol
— reportedly had his name exposed in emails connected to alleged
pro-Kremlin disinformation campaign operative Natalia Veselnitskaya.
point the finger directly at Veselnitskaya (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/russian-lawyer-infamous-trump-tower-meeting-charged-obstructing-money-laundering-probe/),
who met with Don Trump Jr. at Trump Tower (https://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/revealed-russian-lawyer-offered-trump-jr-damaging-info-on-clinton-to-get-june-2016-meeting/) in 2016 that became a major part of special counsel Robert Mueller’s report on Russian involvement in Donald Trump’s presidential campaign.
“A cache of emails obtained by the Dossier Center,
which is a Russian opposition organization based in London,
exposes the depth of foreign asset entanglement in Trump’s America
at the precise moment that
the president’s dealings with Ukrainian officials threaten to pull the Department of Justice and State Department into an unseemly impeachment fight.”
“The emails cannot be independently verified by The Daily Beast via a digital signature but
elements contained within them including
cell phone numbers,
bank details, planning,
email addresses, and
hearing dates
can be confirmed by cross-checking with subsequent court papers, lobbyist filings and other reporting.”
shed light on Veselnitskaya’s lobbying and legal campaign against the Magnitsky Act
and appear to suggest that it may have been carried out in breach of another U.S. law and court orders,
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/russian-witness-thrown-from-a-window-after-his-name-was-exposed-by-trump-tower-lobbyist-emails/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1635 (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/russian-witness-thrown-from-a-window-after-his-name-was-exposed-by-trump-tower-lobbyist-emails/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1635)
https://www.thedailybeast.com/natalia-veselniskaya-email-leak-exposes-trump-tower-russians-dirty-lobbying-operations?ref=home (https://www.thedailybeast.com/natalia-veselniskaya-email-leak-exposes-trump-tower-russians-dirty-lobbying-operations?ref=home)
Why have Trash and his mafiya, "forgotten", OBSTRUCTED, lied about their contacts with Russians and the Russian investigation?
RandomGuy
10-04-2019, 11:06 AM
=5th time
Should Trump be impeached if he starts threatening countries for dirt on his political opponents, TSA? Simple yes or no question.
Sure [denial that denial that a threat was made for dirt]
Well, we have a standard we can both agree on [threatening another country for dirt on a political rival is an impeachable offense]. A step forward.
Is Ukraine dependent on US security guarantees and military aid to protect itself from Russia? yes or no.
The US contributes a lot to the protection of Ukraine. [denial that a threat was made for dirt]
Another yes.
We are indeed getting somewhere. 1st time
Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?
You might find this link helpful:
https://www.apnews.com/94fdeaddc6b34c02b97278674b87541e
[repeats denial that denial that a threat was made for dirt]
Not really an answer. We are attempting to establish facts concerning what you yourself admit should be impeachable. Hard to do when you fail to offer any.
The question remains.
Ukraine is dependent on the US for military and economic support. 2nd time
Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?
[repeats denial that denial that a threat was made for dirt]
Not really an answer.
We are attempting to establish facts concerning what you yourself admit should be impeachable.
Hard to do when you fail to offer any.
The question remains.
Ukraine is dependent on the US for military and economic support. 3rd time
Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?
boutons_deux
10-04-2019, 11:28 AM
Not really an answer.
Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?
why nobody in either party and elsewhere were not told about the suspension, and once known, they couldn't get the WH say anything about it.
Why were Trash and Julie Annie "investigating" Ukraine and not the FBI which is run by Trash appointee?
Not really an answer.
We are attempting to establish facts concerning what you yourself admit should be impeachable.
No, you are attempting to make your hypothetical situation a reality and and then expecting others to discuss it as such.
boutons_deux
10-04-2019, 12:15 PM
No, you are attempting to make your hypothetical situation a reality and and then expecting others to discuss it as such.
Why have Trash and his mafiya, "forgotten", OBSTRUCTED, lied about their contacts with Russians and the Russian investigation?
Quadzilla99
10-04-2019, 12:59 PM
Trash is the worst nickname in history
DarrinS
10-04-2019, 02:10 PM
Trash is the worst nickname in history
What about Julie Annie? :lol
spurraider21
10-04-2019, 03:08 PM
What about Julie Annie? :lol
it's pretty fitting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LOUHO7SVPM
RandomGuy
10-04-2019, 03:20 PM
He doesn't have to threaten. Asking is bad enough. Why does this continue to escape you?
I"ll get there eventually. I have a feeling I am going to have to keep treating him like Cosmored for a while though. Sad!
RandomGuy
10-04-2019, 03:24 PM
[moved converstation to impeachment thread, where it should be-RG]
RandomGuy
10-04-2019, 03:40 PM
Alternately, for anyone else still paying attention:
All other things equal if someone is unwilling to answer a good faith question honestly, does that make someone more, or less likely to be generally telling the truth?
Quadzilla99
10-04-2019, 05:17 PM
What about Julie Annie? :lol
Is that another boutons special? :lol
boutons_deux
10-04-2019, 06:25 PM
tranny Julie Annie, America's Mayor, with Trash making move on her
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Guve7Y856kY
Chris
10-06-2019, 12:55 PM
https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1180883250295771137?s=19
Spurs Homer
10-06-2019, 12:59 PM
https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1180883250295771137?s=19
”look over there - a squirrel!”
Winehole23
10-06-2019, 01:07 PM
”look over there - a squirrel!”eh, we'll see.
Chris will bury it like a turd in the catbox if it doesn't deliver.
Winehole23
10-06-2019, 01:15 PM
This is a recurring theme: there was a vast, left wing/CIA conspiracy to hurt DJT in 2016 that the CIA forgot to leak before the election and Pompeo never exposed while he was in charge of the CIA.
1180878709621952518
Winehole23
10-06-2019, 01:48 PM
FBI, also in the tank for HER, leaked nothing derogatory about DJT vis a vis Russiagate, but did announce an investigation of HER one week before the election.
Winehole23
10-06-2019, 01:49 PM
What a wacky conspiracy!
Winehole23
10-06-2019, 02:27 PM
Btw, where does this notion that the intelligence community is brimming with liberals come from? Seems counterintuitive.
boutons_deux
10-06-2019, 02:37 PM
Russia bragging how deeply they have compromised Trash
Russia Boasts That Trump Questioned Their Involvement in Skripal Poisoning
https://am11.akamaized.net/med/cnt/uploads/2018/10/GettyImages-1000091424.jpg
Russia’s UK embassy cited reporting that President Donald
Trump questioned who was responsible for the attempted murder of a former Russian spy as evidence the Kremlin was not behind the 2018 attack.
The U.K. government has said there is “overwhelming” evidence that the poisoning ... was carried out by Russian agents.
Trump is skeptical of that conclusion.
“In a summer 2018 call with Prime Minister Theresa May,” the Post reported,
Trump “disputed her intelligence community’s conclusion
that Putin’s government had orchestrated the attempted murder and poisoning of a former Russian spy on British soil.”
“Trump was totally bought into the idea there was credible doubt about the poisoning,” one person briefed on the call told the Post.
“A solid 10 minutes of the conversation is spent with May saying
it’s highly likely and him saying he’s not sure.”
https://www.mediaite.com/trump/russia-boasts-that-trump-questioned-their-involvement-in-skripal-poisoning/ (https://www.mediaite.com/trump/russia-boasts-that-trump-questioned-their-involvement-in-skripal-poisoning/)
Winehole23
10-06-2019, 02:45 PM
It's also short sighted to think trying to rope allies into helping Trump smear his political opponents won't make them *less* likely to share information with the USA.
Winehole23
10-06-2019, 02:46 PM
Turning to foreign countries for oppo research could have adverse NATSEC outcomes.
boutons_deux
10-07-2019, 06:59 PM
Trash crapifying EVERYTHING he can touch: privatizing Medicare even more, and now killing Open Skies
‘Like a kamikaze pilot destroying America’:
Experts outraged after Trump quietly moves to pull out of treaty for monitoring Russia
https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/trump-putin-afp.jpg
the Trump administration was
quietly laying plans to pull out of a key and critical compact, the Open Skies Treaty.
First proposed in 1992, since 2002 the Open Skies Treaty has
allowed the now 34 signatory nations to fly over each others’ territory for the purpose of monitoring and recording military deployments and movements.
In the real world, the Open Skies Treaty allows the most powerful nations on earth to monitor Russian military movements.
And President Trump wants to end that.
Engel also called the possible withdrawal “reckless,” and noted
“American withdrawal would only benefit Russia.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/like-a-kamikaze-pilot-destroying-america-experts-outraged-after-trump-quietly-moves-to-pull-put-of-treaty-for-monitoring-russia/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
Someday, we'll find out how Pootin dictates his wet dreams into Trash's compromised, traitorous shit-for-brains.
Whatsapp? Telegram?
spurraider21
10-07-2019, 07:19 PM
https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1180883250295771137?s=19
good to know, should be an interesting read :tu
spurraider21
10-07-2019, 07:21 PM
Btw, where does this notion that the intelligence community is brimming with liberals come from? Seems counterintuitive.
obama plants that trump for some reason never bothered replacing
boutons_deux
10-07-2019, 07:43 PM
Turning to foreign countries for oppo research could have adverse NATSEC outcomes.
Of course, Z knowing first hand that Trash committed a crime makes Trash vulnerable to blackmail, had not Trash convicted himself.
Chris
10-07-2019, 08:56 PM
good to know, should be an interesting read :tu
yeah
Chris
10-07-2019, 08:57 PM
https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1181378310502256641?s=19
hmm
Pavlov
10-07-2019, 09:10 PM
NARRATOR: It was not devastating.
Chris
10-08-2019, 08:18 PM
https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1181706438562828289?s=19
Chris
10-08-2019, 08:22 PM
https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1181714026629390336?s=19
https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1181706438562828289?s=19
https://mobile.twitter.com/JakeBGibson/status/1181690597893115904
https://mobile.twitter.com/JakeBGibson/status/1181691466952986625
boutons_deux
10-09-2019, 07:05 AM
Russian Operatives Popped Champagne, Said They ‘Made America Great’ After Trump Win
A report from the GOP-led Senate Intelligence Committee says that Russian trolls celebrated success on election night 2016.
Russian social media trolls working to boost the candidacy of now-President Donald Trump (https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/donald-trump) celebrated the real estate mogul’s win on election night 2016 with champagne,
they “uncorked a tiny bottle of champagne” when they found out that Trump had won.
“We uttered almost in unison: ‘We made America great.’”
The exchange was highlighted by Bloomberg (https://www.huffpost.com/www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-08/senate-intelligence-panel-warns-russian-meddling-continues).
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/russian-interference-trump-election-senate-intelligence-committee_n_5d9cfb01e4b06ddfc50ff12e?ncid=newsltus hpmgnews__TheMorningEmail__100919
boutons_deux
10-09-2019, 07:16 AM
Senators warn of foreign social media meddling in U.S. elections
A bipartisan group of U.S. senators urged
President Trump on Tuesday to warn the public :lol
about efforts by foreign governments to interfere in U.S. elections,
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2019-10-08/senators-warn-of-foreign-social-media-meddling-in-us-elections?utm_source=Today%27s+Headlines&utm_campaign=24f4ec90bd-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2016_12_12_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_b04355194f-24f4ec90bd-80027601
Russia, China, Philippines, Turkey, ANYBODY, if you are listening ...
Chris
10-09-2019, 04:21 PM
https://twitter.com/RepMattGaetz/status/1182034666662047744?s=19
Pavlov
10-09-2019, 04:30 PM
https://i.imgflip.com/3cqwqq.jpg
Quadzilla99
10-09-2019, 04:31 PM
https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1181706438562828289?s=19
I thought Mueller vindicated Trump?
boutons_deux
10-09-2019, 04:40 PM
I thought Mueller vindicated Trump?
"perfect", "best ever" exoneration, IIRC :lol
Quadzilla99
10-09-2019, 04:48 PM
"perfect", "best ever" exoneration, IIRC :lol
Reminds of this comey trump tweet from 2016 lol
795379191642525696
Spurs Homer
10-09-2019, 09:32 PM
https://twitter.com/RepMattGaetz/status/1182034666662047744?s=19
So
Comey going to prison soon?
lololol
boutons_deux
10-09-2019, 09:36 PM
"Florida Man" Gaetz is as insane and as much of liar as his hero Trash
Chris
10-10-2019, 12:34 AM
Herr Gaetz
boutons_deux
10-10-2019, 08:50 AM
Russian trolls orchestrated 2016 clash at Houston Islamic center, new Senate intel report recalls
Russian trolls stirred up hysteria about a perennial military exercise called Jade Helm :lol
before pitting anti-Muslim forces against Houston Muslims in May 2016.
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2019/10/08/russian-trolls-orchestrated-2016-clash-houston-islamic-center-senate-intel-report-says/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Beto+O+Rourke+s+anti-Trump+rally+in+Dallas%2C+harsh+words+from+judge+in +Texas+foster+care+case%2C+new+candidates+for+Cong ress&utm_campaign=PoliticalPoints101019
shithole TX :lol shitbag Repugs :lol monitored US military Jade Helm
to make sure the US military didn't attempt a military takeover of Texas.
DarrinS
10-12-2019, 12:09 PM
1182702416132759553
Pavlov
10-12-2019, 05:05 PM
1182702416132759553
PapaD was interviewed.
PapaD didn't lie better.
boutons_deux
10-14-2019, 01:28 PM
By the Way, Trump’s Favorite Ukrainian Prosecutor Helped a Key Witness Flee the Mueller Investigation
Trump asked Zelensky to reinstate his country’s former prosecutor general, Yuri Lutsenko.
In the impeachment part of our story, Trump wanted Lutsenko back in office because
Lutsenko had been meeting with Rudy Giuliani to discuss a smear campaign against Joe Biden and to indulge Giuliani and
Trump’s (ludicrous, non-evidence-based) belief that Ukrainian officials collaborated with the Democratic National Committee in 2016 to frame Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort for the fraud charges for which he was later convicted by a U.S. jury.
Lutsenko had also played a crucial role in the Mueller investigation itself, in an episode that also involved Manafort.
Manafort provided Trump campaign polling information to Konstantin Kilimnik—
a former business partner who, Mueller’s lawyers wrote (https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/03/mueller-manafort-kilimnik-no-collusion-how.html) in court filings,
“has ties to a Russian intelligence service and had such ties in 2016.” The intelligence service in question was the GRU (https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/03/robert-mueller-trump-russia-sanctions-glenn-greenwald.html), which is the same service that hacked and distributed Democratic emails during the campaign.
Although Ukraine had agreed to cooperate with Mueller’s investigation,
Lutsenko allowed Kilimnik to leave the country for Russia without answering questions.
Ultimately, Mueller concluded that his office
“could not reliably determine Manafort’s purpose in sharing internal polling data with Kilimnik during the campaign period,”
Lutsenko’s involvement in hiding Kilimnik is not a conspiracy theory:
It’s something that the New York Times reported on aspects of (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/02/world/europe/ukraine-mueller-manafort-missiles.html) when it happened and that has reportedly been confirmed (https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2019/10/08/ukraine-continued-the-key-witness-who-was-allowed-escape/) in internal State Department documents.
Kilmnik, who had “ties” to the agency that led the attack against the Clinton campaign,
received proprietary information from Trump’s campaign chairman.
Lutsenko made sure he wouldn’t ever have to answer law enforcement questions about the situation.
Later, Trump called the president of Ukraine and told him Lutsenko was great and needed to be rehired.
Maybe someone should look into this?
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/10/trump-ukraine-scandal-manafort-mueller-collusion.html (https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/10/trump-ukraine-scandal-manafort-mueller-collusion.html)
Manafort gave the Repug polling data to the Russians with Trash/Kushner/DJTJr knowledge?
https://mobile.twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1184211806174081024
Pavlov
10-15-2019, 05:44 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1184211806174081024So Flynn was being framed by Mifsud in 2014?:lmao
What does this have to do with lying to the feds?
Chris
10-20-2019, 01:40 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1184211806174081024
https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1185904505424138241?s=19
boutons_deux
10-21-2019, 11:09 PM
Facebook: Russia is already trying to interfere with the 2020 election
The social media site shut down four new foreign interference operations originating from Russia and Iran on Monday
one appears to be linked to the Russian troll agency, the Internet Research Agency (IRA), and was targeting the U.S. 2020 presidential election.
The company removed 50 Instagram accounts and one account on Facebook that originated in Russia and focused primarily on the United States.
“A small portion of these accounts also repurposed and modified old memes originally posted by the IRA,”
“The people behind this operation often posted on both sides of political issues including
topics like US elections, environmental issues, racial tensions, LGBTQ issues, political candidates, confederate ideas, conservatism and liberalism.”
https://www.salon.com/2019/10/21/facebook-russia-interference-iran-2020-election-fake-accounts/ (https://www.salon.com/2019/10/21/facebook-russia-interference-iran-2020-election-fake-accounts/)
boutons_deux
10-23-2019, 12:14 PM
WTF is Trash's shit about 2016 election and Ukraine?
An overlooked Bill Taylor revelation hints at worse to come from Trump
Taylor then adds (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/10/22/us/politics/william-taylor-ukraine-testimony.html):
We also discussed the possibility that the Ukrainian Prosecutor General, rather than President Zelenskyy, would make a statement about investigations,
potentially in coordination with Attorney General Barr’s probe into the investigation of interference in the 2016 elections.
Two senior U.S. officials seriously discussed a plan in which the attorney general of the United States would publicly coordinate with a foreign government
to help Trump absolve Russia of culpability for an attack on our political system,
by helping to repudiate our intelligence services’ conclusion about that culpability.
That’s the goal of Trump’s demand for Ukraine’s investigation into 2016 —
to validate a conspiracy theory (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/03/us/politics/trump-ukraine-conspiracy.html) which holds that Ukraine hacked Democrats’ emails and
set up Russia to get blamed for sabotaging the election for Trump.
If Taylor is right, Sondland — who has been taking direction (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/14/us/politics/bolton-giuliani-fiona-hill-testimony.html) from Trump — seriously discussed the prospect of
Barr actively validating Ukraine’s “investigation” by making a joint statement about it with Ukraine.
Consider:
Trump himself,
his acting chief of staff, and
a key ringleader of the whole scheme (Sondland)
have all apparently connected Barr’s review directly to Trump’s pressure on Ukraine.
The Justice Department also declined to investigate the whistleblower’s charges even after a CIA lawyer (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/cia-s-top-lawyer-made-criminal-referral-whistleblower-s-complaint-n1062481) made a criminal referral of them
We can’t rule out the possibility that Barr’s review will be just as nakedly political as what Trump is doing.
The Justice Department has announced (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/u-s-attorney-john-durham-looking-into-ukrainian-involvement-in-2016-election) that the review is vaguely looking into Ukraine’s role in 2016.
And Barr has already worked to enlist other foreign governments (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/attorney-general-barr-personally-asked-foreign-officials-to-aid-inquiry-into-cia-fbi-activities-in-2016/2019/09/30/d50cd5c4-e3a5-11e9-b403-f738899982d2_story.html?tid=lk_inline_manual_40) in this effort.
one can easily see Barr releasing the findings of his review right when impeachment hits a climax, to spread around further fog and confusion.
should prompt us to redouble the questions about Barr’s role here.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/10/23/hidden-revelation-taylor-hints-worse-come-trump/?wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1
Why are Trash and his mafiya working so hard, 3 years later, to absolve Pootin of 2016 election meddling by trying prove it was Ukraine, not Pootin?
They are ADMITTING that there was 2016 election meddling
They are trying to protect/abolve Pootin as NOT being the meddling culprit
https://mobile.twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1187557854691168256
https://mobile.twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1187559835191201793
https://mobile.twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1187562361797906434
https://mobile.twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1187564052488306688
called it
Spurs Homer
10-24-2019, 10:11 PM
Lol
boom!
https://mobile.twitter.com/JakeBGibson/status/1181690597893115904
https://mobile.twitter.com/JakeBGibson/status/1181691466952986625
https://mobile.twitter.com/RepJerryNadler/status/1187553311597170688
BOOM
Chris
10-24-2019, 11:29 PM
on cue attacking Barr
Winehole23
10-24-2019, 11:55 PM
on cue attacking Barryour nose is a heat seeking missile for his butt
on cue attacking Barr
The aim of those attacking Barr for having the temerity to call spying “spying” is threefold.
It’s to obfuscate the substantial gravity of Barr’s underlying claim by focusing on the putative political undertones of his remarks; to ascribe Barr’s remarks to politics, calling into question his legitimacy and consequently rendering illegitimate any action taken at his direction regarding Russiagate; and to protect the attackers, since it was the Deep State and its friends in the political-media establishment who condoned and cheered such otherwise unthinkable, corrupt, and corrosive actions as spying on a presidential campaign, in a bid to ultimately tank a presidency they oppose.
In fact, the attempt to smear Barr, thereby undermining his office and its work, or perhaps cowing him into proceeding with kid gloves, is of a piece with prior acts to sideline anyone who threatens their prerogatives. Just ask Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA).
https://thefederalist.com/2019/04/15/democrats-freaked-barr-said-trump-campaign-spied/
Winehole23
10-25-2019, 12:20 AM
purple prose from the Federalist is dispositive for TSA
Pavlov
10-25-2019, 06:57 AM
The aim of those attacking Barr for having the temerity to call spying “spying” is threefold.
It’s to obfuscate the substantial gravity of Barr’s underlying claim by focusing on the putative political undertones of his remarks; to ascribe Barr’s remarks to politics, calling into question his legitimacy and consequently rendering illegitimate any action taken at his direction regarding Russiagate; and to protect the attackers, since it was the Deep State and its friends in the political-media establishment who condoned and cheered such otherwise unthinkable, corrupt, and corrosive actions as spying on a presidential campaign, in a bid to ultimately tank a presidency they oppose.
In fact, the attempt to smear Barr, thereby undermining his office and its work, or perhaps cowing him into proceeding with kid gloves, is of a piece with prior acts to sideline anyone who threatens their prerogatives. Just ask Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA).
https://thefederalist.com/2019/04/15/democrats-freaked-barr-said-trump-campaign-spied/:lol did derp write that?
Also Nunes was and is a hack. Sure, I'll ask him.
Sounds like Barr hasn't found anything illegal in his original timeline so he's gone fishin' elsewhere.
What actual crime is he investigating?
boutons_deux
10-25-2019, 07:01 AM
who was spying and on whom?
Trash had his friendly Russian mafiya working in Trash Tower. FBI was monitoring
boutons_deux
10-25-2019, 07:16 AM
Tom Hagen, Trash's Robert Bork, suppressed the whistleblower report on Ukraine, and
is "investigating" FBI to deflect from the noose tightening around Trash's alleged neck, which is the same reason Florida Man pulled his Brooks Brothers 2.0 stunt.
Chris
10-25-2019, 12:38 PM
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1187760455693078530?s=19
: )
Pavlov
10-25-2019, 12:54 PM
Then Flynn shouldn't have admitted to lying all those times. That means he lied in federal court.
Chris
10-25-2019, 02:53 PM
https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1187808837429948421?s=19
Baker saving his bacon :lol
Chris
10-25-2019, 03:04 PM
https://twitter.com/SebGorka/status/1187800144055545857?s=19
Spurs Homer
10-25-2019, 04:10 PM
Lololol
judge ruled that dems get the
mueller grand jury materials
the cover up is finally unraveling
Lololol
judge ruled that dems get the
mueller grand jury materials
the cover up is finally unraveling
:lol how fucking stupid can you be? Mueller had the grand jury materials and what came of them?
Winehole23
10-25-2019, 04:34 PM
Then Flynn shouldn't have admitted to lying all those times. That means he lied in federal court.Like any loving father would do to keep his son out of prison, allegedly.
Chris
10-25-2019, 04:42 PM
:lol how fucking stupid can you be? Mueller had the grand jury materials and what came of them?
:lol
Chris
10-25-2019, 05:19 PM
https://twitter.com/Jim_Jordan/status/1187820031645798401?s=19
Chris
10-25-2019, 05:20 PM
https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1187808837429948421?s=19
Baker saving his bacon :lol
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1187851987913728002?s=19
Spurs Homer
10-25-2019, 07:04 PM
:lol how fucking stupid can you be? Mueller had the grand jury materials and what came of them?
mr “wrong about pizzagate”
the grand jury material is all of the sworn testimony of all the guilty trump enablers who had to answer truthfully
mueller could not charge or indict trump
but the voters can now hear exactly what barr and trump buried and lied about
the entire cover up is going to be exposed and this is the beginning
Winehole23
10-25-2019, 07:19 PM
What got covered up, Spurs Homer?
Spurs Homer
10-25-2019, 07:40 PM
What got covered up, Spurs Homer?
1) every thing that is redacted
2) every interview of every witness testifying before a grand jury
3) every fbi report, fbi 302, fbi evidence, fbi interviews, fbi leads, pics, texts, phone msgs, emails
4) any other evidence that muellers team unearthed and if any of this stuff was disallowed by rosenstein and barr
5) every document that was unearthed and why mueller was not allowed to pursue leads, or legit avenues of investigation
6) why mueller did not compel trump to testify, why trump jr did not testify and what did barr/rosenstein do to prevent these criminals from being prosecuted
7) michael cohens records, textx, emails and how and why mueller was not allowed to pursue the money trail, the income taxes, the money laundering
and more...
koriwhat
10-25-2019, 07:42 PM
mr “wrong about pizzagate”
the grand jury material is all of the sworn testimony of all the guilty trump enablers who had to answer truthfully
mueller could not charge or indict trump
but the voters can now hear exactly what barr and trump buried and lied about
the entire cover up is going to be exposed and this is the beginning
:lmao @ your retarded ass trying to claim anyone else here is a conspiracy theorist as crazy as you are. :lol RUSSIA!
DarrinS
10-25-2019, 07:46 PM
1) every thing that is redacted
2) every interview of every witness testifying before a grand jury
3) every fbi report, fbi 302, fbi evidence, fbi interviews, fbi leads, pics, texts, phone msgs, emails
4) any other evidence that muellers team unearthed and if any of this stuff was disallowed by rosenstein and barr
5) every document that was unearthed and why mueller was not allowed to pursue leads, or legit avenues of investigation
6) why mueller did not compel trump to testify, why trump jr did not testify and what did barr/rosenstein do to prevent these criminals from being prosecuted
7) michael cohens records, textx, emails and how and why mueller was not allowed to pursue the money trail, the income taxes, the money laundering
and more...
I'm sorry this is happening to you.
Pavlov
10-25-2019, 09:14 PM
Liaj48z1Lak
lolWhat crime is being investigated?
DarrinS
10-25-2019, 09:32 PM
What crime is being investigated?
Nervous much?
Pavlov
10-25-2019, 09:34 PM
Nervous much?Dodging the question much?
What crime is being investigated, Darrin?
Spurs Homer
10-25-2019, 09:34 PM
I'm sorry this is happening to the USA.
fify
DarrinS
10-25-2019, 09:37 PM
fify
^poor thing
Winehole23
10-26-2019, 03:51 AM
Nervous much?No really, what's your take on this?
Winehole23
10-26-2019, 03:53 AM
Nobody can say. It's really odd it isn't a talking point, Republican messaging has been substandard so far.
boutons_deux
10-28-2019, 08:21 AM
Anothe Kock Bros Repug spouting bullship to exonerate Pootin and his cyber warriors
GOP Sen. Ron Johnson again linked to Ukrainian diplomat spreading conspiracy rumors about Hillary Clinton
https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/fox_fns_johnson_gitmo_150118a.jpg
Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) has now been tied to a Ukrainian diplomat
who has been promoting a debunked conspiracy theory that
claims Ukrainian officials assisted Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign.
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/gop-sen-ron-johnson-linked-again-to-ukrainian-diplomat-spreading-conspiracy-rumors-about-hillary-clinton/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2810
boutons_deux
10-28-2019, 01:17 PM
OANN :lol
deletes broadcast claiming FBI’s Lisa Page was having affairs with both Peter Strzok and boss Andrew McCabe
One America News Network (OANN) on Sunday quietly deleted a video report claiming that former FBI lawyer Lisa Page was having two affairs at once.
During the broadcast, OANN correspondent Chanel Rion accused the FBI of manipulating reports in order to frame former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn.
According to Rion, Flynn was set up by Page and the two men she was having affairs with: coworker Peter Strzok and her boss, then-FBI Director Andrew McCabe.
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/oann-deletes-broadcast-claiming-fbis-lisa-page-having-affairs-with-both-peter-strzok-and-boss-andrew-mccabe/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2824
OANN has become one of Trash's preferred sources of pure bullshit
Chris
10-28-2019, 03:20 PM
https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1188911833253584896?s=19
Spurs Homer
10-28-2019, 03:24 PM
https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1188911833253584896?s=19
maybe those “chips” will include...
a legal predicate for opening the investigation?
lololol
ChumpDumper
10-28-2019, 03:43 PM
https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1188911833253584896?s=19Maybe I can get a few more free trips to Italy because I think they're totally holding out on me.
Chris
10-28-2019, 04:15 PM
ruh roh
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1188915079401619456?s=19
Chris
10-28-2019, 05:00 PM
https://twitter.com/SaraCarterDC/status/1188936077047975936?s=19
https://media.giphy.com/media/l0ErLeqamV3UOARsA/giphy.gif
Spurs Homer
10-28-2019, 05:24 PM
lol
sara psycho-whack-job carter
Yonivore
10-28-2019, 05:28 PM
I've heard it suggested that, after Flynn's charges are dismissed, President Trump should re-appoint him as National Security Adviser.
Chris
10-28-2019, 05:54 PM
lol
sara psycho-whack-job carter
lowtierpyramid.jpeg
ChumpDumper
10-28-2019, 06:12 PM
I've heard it suggested that, after Flynn's charges are dismissed, President Trump should re-appoint him as National Security Adviser.
I've heard Erdoğan is going to do it first.
Chris
10-28-2019, 08:15 PM
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1188967834031923201?s=19
:corn:
Winehole23
10-28-2019, 10:01 PM
OTOH, if Flynn and his lawyer are full of it yet again, they might turn a plea deal into a custodial sentence.
ElNono
10-28-2019, 10:29 PM
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1188967834031923201?s=19
:corn:
Actually, let me spoil this one for you. None of that is going to happen.
Chris
10-28-2019, 10:39 PM
Actually, let me spoil this one for you. None of that is going to happen.
5C6GZQ7UNaU
ElNono
10-28-2019, 10:41 PM
Wishcasting per par
ChumpDumper
10-29-2019, 11:00 AM
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1188967834031923201?s=19
:corn:1189192508896473090
1189200164361330688
1189200502699020288
1189200901375959042
You're welcome for that wall of tweet.
Winehole23
10-29-2019, 02:06 PM
Federal judges don't like shenanigans. Flynn's public facing legal strategy could land him in the pokey.
RandomGuy
10-29-2019, 03:12 PM
Nobody can say. It's really odd it isn't a talking point, Republican messaging has been substandard so far.
They are doing their best to polish the turds dribbling out of the back end, but it has been hard to keep up.
"no quid pro quo" turned into "we did it, get over it", so they had the rug pulled out from under them.
It has been a pleasure to watch them squirm.
Nbadan
10-29-2019, 03:17 PM
Actually, let me spoil this one for you. None of that is going to happen.
:lol
RandomGuy
10-29-2019, 03:42 PM
OTOH, if Flynn and his lawyer are full of it yet again, they might turn a plea deal into a custodial sentence.
They are gonna pull a Stone. It's like Watergate, but with idiots.
Flynn got a new lawyer who thinks she is a legal hot shot, but whom legal analysts have generally panned as being an overly theatrical idiot.
They are doing their best to polish the turds dribbling out of the back end, but it has been hard to keep up.
"no quid pro quo" turned into "we did it, get over it", so they had the rug pulled out from under them.
It has been a pleasure to watch them squirm.
As long as you're doing it from the losing side that's all fine.
ChumpDumper
10-29-2019, 06:16 PM
As long as you're doing it from the losing side that's all fine.As long as you never have to post a take on the actual issue that's all fine.
As long as you never have to post a take on the actual issue that's all fine.
:lol in 2007 you were still posting the same stupid troll shit, with barely a word about any topic.
Get a life
ChumpDumper
10-29-2019, 09:11 PM
:lol in 2007 you were still posting the same stupid troll shit, with barely a word about any topic.
Get a life:lol DMC angry
Still hasn't posted shit about the topic.
Winehole23
10-29-2019, 09:14 PM
:lol DMC angry
Still hasn't posted shit about the topic.all personal, all the time.
how tiresome.
ChumpDumper
10-29-2019, 09:17 PM
all personal, all the time.
how tiresome.
He'll never forgive me for pointing out his ignorance RE: imply/infer.
Winehole23
10-29-2019, 09:21 PM
He'll never forgive me for pointing out his ignorance RE: imply/infer.The always being right mania has always perplexed me. How could anyone be always right?
ChumpDumper
10-29-2019, 09:24 PM
The always being right mania has always perplexed me. How could anyone be always right? Didn't even acknowledge it. Just ramped up his personal attacks. The largest egos are the most fragile.
Winehole23
10-29-2019, 09:29 PM
Didn't even acknowledge it. Just ramped up his personal attacks. The largest egos are the most fragile.I think of the precarity as a form of resilience and resourcefulness. Other people get roped in.
They live on the drama.
RandomGuy
10-30-2019, 05:30 PM
As long as you're doing it from the losing side that's all fine.
So there is a "winning" and "losing" side to abuse of power scandals?
That was a revealing remark.
boutons_deux
10-31-2019, 05:50 AM
Trump's campaign is upset Twitter banned political ads. So, oddly, is Russian state media. (https://theweek.com/speedreads/875456/trumps-campaign-upset-twitter-banned-political-ads-oddly-russian-state-media)
Brad Parscale
(https://twitter.com/parscale)✔@parscale
(https://twitter.com/parscale)
(https://twitter.com/parscale)Twitter bans political ads in yet another attempt by the left to silence Trump and conservatives. Wouldn’t be surprised if @twitter (https://twitter.com/Twitter) lifted the ban after 2020.
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1018833905082871808/F7RZerA1_bigger.jpg (https://twitter.com/RT_com)
RT
(https://twitter.com/RT_com)✔@RT_com
(https://twitter.com/RT_com)
(https://twitter.com/RT_com)URGENT:
Twitter bans political ads, caving in to ‘election meddling’ fearmongershttps://on.rt.com/a4e0 (https://t.co/kAuTROEuzm)
https://theweek.com/speedreads/875456/trumps-campaign-upset-twitter-banned-political-ads-oddly-russian-state-media (https://theweek.com/speedreads/875456/trumps-campaign-upset-twitter-banned-political-ads-oddly-russian-state-media)
boutons_deux
11-01-2019, 09:10 AM
How Roger Stone’s Trial Could Be a Nightmare for Donald Trump
Will the proceedings reveal the president lied to Robert Mueller?
On November 5, Donald Trump’s longtime political adviser
Roger Stone—the dirty trickster who had for years encouraged Trump to run for president
—will go on trial in a federal court in Washington, DC, facing charges (https://www.lawfareblog.com/document-indictment-roger-stone) that
he lied to Congress about his interactions with WikiLeaks during the 2016 campaign,
as the organization was publicly disseminating Democratic material stolen by Russian hackers. Stone also was indicted
for allegedly obstructing justice and witness-tampering.
Though the trial will determine whether Stone tried to bamboozle a congressional investigation, it could answer two bigger questions about the president:
Did Trump use (or try to use) Stone as a conduit to WikiLeaks, and
did Trump lie to special counsel Robert Mueller?
The former might not be illegal; the latter could be a crime.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/10/how-roger-stones-trial-could-be-a-nightmare-for-donald-trump/ (https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/10/how-roger-stones-trial-could-be-a-nightmare-for-donald-trump/)
Winehole23
11-01-2019, 09:14 AM
So there is a "winning" and "losing" side to abuse of power scandals?
That was a revealing remark.The only thing that matters is whose ox is gored.
Spurs Homer
11-01-2019, 09:19 AM
How Roger Stone’s Trial Could Be a Nightmare for Donald Trump
Will the proceedings reveal the president lied to Robert Mueller?
On November 5, Donald Trump’s longtime political adviser
Roger Stone—the dirty trickster who had for years encouraged Trump to run for president
—will go on trial in a federal court in Washington, DC, facing charges (https://www.lawfareblog.com/document-indictment-roger-stone) that
he lied to Congress about his interactions with WikiLeaks during the 2016 campaign,
as the organization was publicly disseminating Democratic material stolen by Russian hackers. Stone also was indicted
for allegedly obstructing justice and witness-tampering.
Though the trial will determine whether Stone tried to bamboozle a congressional investigation, it could answer two bigger questions about the president:
Did Trump use (or try to use) Stone as a conduit to WikiLeaks, and
did Trump lie to special counsel Robert Mueller?
The former might not be illegal; the latter could be a crime.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/10/how-roger-stones-trial-could-be-a-nightmare-for-donald-trump/ (https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/10/how-roger-stones-trial-could-be-a-nightmare-for-donald-trump/)
of course he lied
mueller already told us he did
doj olc policy handcuffed mueller
barr handcuffed mueller further
gop does not give a shit about perjury if the liar is a “R”
Chris
11-01-2019, 11:31 PM
https://twitter.com/ChuckCallesto/status/1190448691846373376?s=19
Ohr shit :lol
TSA
djohn2oo8
11-02-2019, 03:18 PM
1190721517170122753
Makes one wonder who were the names on those 12 cases that Mueller have to the US Attorneys for prosecution.... :)
djohn2oo8
11-02-2019, 03:33 PM
1190721806388346880
djohn2oo8
11-02-2019, 03:36 PM
1190715664937476098
of course they did
djohn2oo8
11-02-2019, 03:48 PM
“Flynn said he could use his intelligence sources to get the emails”
tsk tsk tsk
djohn2oo8
11-02-2019, 04:10 PM
1190701437602467840
djohn2oo8
11-02-2019, 04:15 PM
1190720771200634881
Because it was Harm to ongoing matter. United States vs Wikileaks. Appendix D
djohn2oo8
11-02-2019, 04:17 PM
1190666707502845953
Chris
11-02-2019, 04:21 PM
7 posts must be super cereal "bigly"
djohn2oo8
11-02-2019, 04:33 PM
“Get the emails”
- Donald J Trump
Damn it feels good to be a gangsta. Called this shit years ago
Chris
11-02-2019, 04:36 PM
"I'm gonna go get the papers...the papers."
-djohnny-two-times
djohn2oo8
11-02-2019, 04:43 PM
1190702284239454208
djohn2oo8
11-02-2019, 04:48 PM
1190687057263366147
djohn2oo8
11-02-2019, 04:50 PM
1190719222126665729
djohn2oo8
11-02-2019, 04:53 PM
1190725722165280768
WHATTT???????????? :lmao :lmao :lmao
LkrFan
djohn2oo8
11-02-2019, 05:20 PM
1190754898347991043
LkrFan
11-02-2019, 05:41 PM
1190725722165280768
WHATTT???????????? :lmao :lmao :lmao
LkrFan
BAAAAAAHHHAAHAHA!!!! :rollin :lmao :rollin
LkrFan
11-02-2019, 05:45 PM
1190719222126665729
TSA
hater
Chris
ducks
Get your hummingbird asses in here and :downspin: this shiiiiiiiiiiiiit!! :lmao
ChumpDumper
11-02-2019, 05:51 PM
That was the Fridayest of Friday news dumps.
djohn2oo8
11-02-2019, 05:52 PM
1190762610939060225
djohn2oo8
11-02-2019, 05:55 PM
Oh and Roger Stone’s trial starts Tuesday
djohn2oo8
11-02-2019, 07:02 PM
1190780660329439234
Spurs Homer
11-02-2019, 07:03 PM
1190719222126665729
of course he knew
of course he lied in his written sworn testimony
of course Barr covered this up - and more
just business as usual for the repukes
djohn2oo8
11-02-2019, 07:41 PM
of course he knew
of course he lied in his written sworn testimony
of course Barr covered this up - and more
just business as usual for the repukes
#11 is a sealed case that Barr can’t touch. United States Vs Wikileaks.
https://scontent.fiws1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/74411245_3542476152444373_5166632918767894528_n.jp g?_nc_cat=109&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_oc=AQkG9-qtN5xHZGgNB23mge65HroVDWWUHCo-ltN8Xr2B_Jov3uGjRHipV2YrGZ7UgIkKF5sZ3bfIWJjKr8tlQB LL&_nc_ht=scontent.fiws1-1.fna&oh=16ac5c84d3ed62143bbff6b00789c643&oe=5E58100D
Chris
11-02-2019, 07:59 PM
Roger Stone!
djohn2oo8
11-02-2019, 08:04 PM
1190793532652638208
wheewww Chile....that’s a wee bit collusionish
DarrinS
11-02-2019, 08:09 PM
Super sleuth Dijon is on the case!
ChumpDumper
11-02-2019, 08:12 PM
Super sleuth Dijon is on the case!Hey Darrin, did you ever have anyone tell you a workable narrative for your much hoped for Russiagate origin conspiracy? Maybe Praying Medic or Rosie Memos?
DarrinS
11-02-2019, 08:18 PM
Hey Darrin, did you ever have anyone tell you a workable narrative for your much hoped for Russiagate origin conspiracy? Maybe Praying Medic or Rosie Memos?
CollusionTards don't get to throw around "conspiracy" at anyone. :lol
ChumpDumper
11-02-2019, 08:21 PM
CollusionTards don't get to throw around "conspiracy" at anyone. :lolWould it not be a conspiracy, Darrin?
What would it be?
Explain.
ElNono
11-02-2019, 08:31 PM
https://twitter.com/ChuckCallesto/status/1190448691846373376?s=19
Ohr shit :lol
TSA
Big time!
DarrinS
11-02-2019, 08:32 PM
Would it not be a conspiracy, Darrin?
What would it be?
Explain.
If two or more people did something illegal or harmful, then yes.
But, I don't have a specific theory about that. I'll wait until the investigations are finished.
ChumpDumper
11-02-2019, 08:33 PM
If two or more people did something illegal or harmful, then yes.
But, I don't have a specific theory about that. I'll wait until the investigations are finished.So you're just hoping there was a conspiracy committed by some people (hopefully Democrats) doing something.
Funny how you're so keen to wait now; you've been opining on everything up until this. Why the change?
Chris
11-02-2019, 08:40 PM
Big time!
damn right
DarrinS
11-02-2019, 08:40 PM
So you're just hoping there was a conspiracy committed by some people (hopefully Democrats) doing something.
Funny how you're so keen to wait now; you've been opining on everything up until this. Why the change?
I have always believed that the idea of Trump campaign colluding with Russia to steal the 2016 election was preposterous. Nothing has changed my opinion on that.
Chris
11-02-2019, 08:41 PM
TSA
hater
Chris
ducks
Get your hummingbird asses in here and :downspin: this shiiiiiiiiiiiiit!! :lmao
super secret memos that are going to totally ruin Trump?
ChumpDumper
11-02-2019, 08:44 PM
I have always believed that the idea of Trump campaign colluding with Russia to steal the 2016 election was preposterous. Nothing has changed my opinion on that.But you believe the idea of the Clinton campaign's colluding with Ukraine to steal the 2016 election is super plausible.
DarrinS
11-02-2019, 08:45 PM
But you believe the idea of the Clinton campaign's colluding with Ukraine to steal the 2016 election is super plausible.
Nothing stolen, tbh. She lost.
ChumpDumper
11-02-2019, 08:47 PM
Nothing stolen, tbh. She lost.You still believe they colluded though, right?
And the UK?
And Australia?
And Italy?
DarrinS
11-02-2019, 08:59 PM
I thought Dijon was rehabilitated from Russiagate and was now full-on Ukrainegate. Sad to see someone relapse.
LkrFan
11-02-2019, 09:12 PM
super secret memos that are going to totally ruin Trump?
:lol - nah...the currently locked up Manafort will though
https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1190810697216745473?s=19
LkrFan
11-02-2019, 09:16 PM
These Trumpettes sure do start young
https://twitter.com/TBeaucoupe/status/1190614392733392896?s=19
:lol
LkrFan
11-02-2019, 09:18 PM
https://twitter.com/JoJoFromJerz/status/1190739888850780164?s=19
:lol
djohn2oo8
11-02-2019, 10:28 PM
Nothing stolen, tbh. She lost.
so if someone attempts a robbery, but the plan gets foiled and nothing is stolen, is that still a crime?
djohn2oo8
11-02-2019, 10:29 PM
And btw yes the emails were stolen. Side with your own goddamn country for once.
DarrinS
11-02-2019, 10:38 PM
so if someone attempts a robbery, but the plan gets foiled and nothing is stolen, is that still a crime?
And btw yes the emails were stolen. Side with your own goddamn country for once.
Poor kid
djohn2oo8
11-02-2019, 10:54 PM
Poor kid
It’s the law Darrin. Be mad at that.
boutons_deux
11-03-2019, 12:30 PM
The Mueller Report’s Secret Memos
BuzzFeed News sued the US government to see all the work that Mueller’s team kept secret.
We have published the first installment, with revelations about the Ukraine conspiracy theory, Michael Cohen, Paul Manafort, and more.
a batch of memos from special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation that were released on Saturday that shed light on even more connections between aides to the president and Russian officials.
conservative columnist Jennifer Rubin said Russia lucked out with Trump as a presidential candidate.
“I think what it reminds me is that this whole presidency succeeded for the Russians beyond their wildest expectations.”
We know our entire intelligence community confirmed it’s the Russians.
We know that Putin was involved in the decision.
It’s the Russians, nevertheless, by setting this bug (Ukraine) into the campaign and
circulating around to Trump — he is still obsessed with this.”
“He is still doing, in essence, Russia’s bidding by trying to, frankly, discredit the Mueller investigation which pointed to Russia,”
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jasonleopold/mueller-report-secret-memos-1 (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jasonleopold/mueller-report-secret-memos-1)
boutons_deux
11-03-2019, 12:36 PM
Internal Mueller documents show Trump campaign chief pushed unproven theory Ukraine hacked Democrats
President Trump’s former campaign chairman,
Paul Manafort, suggested as early as the summer of 2016 that Ukrainians might have been responsible for hacking the Democratic National Committee during the presidential campaign rather than Russians
Gates told the FBI that Manafort had shared his theory of Ukrainian culpability with him and other campaign aides before the election.
illustrates a link between Mueller’s investigation, which concluded in March, and the current House impeachment investigation of Trump.
The president had pushed Ukrainians to open a probe into whether their country interfered in the election —
an assertion his allies have made in an effort to discredit Mueller’s findings about Russia’s role.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/internal-mueller-documents-show-trump-campaign-chief-suggested-ukraine-hacked-democrats-during-2016-campaign/2019/11/02/cc8e461c-fd90-11e9-ac8c-8eced29ca6ef_story.html?wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1
Why is Trash and his mafiya trying so hard, for so long, to hide the guilt of Pootin and his cyber army meddling in USA by LYING that in fact it was Ukraine, not Pootin?
WH, the Exec branch is being run for enrichment and aggrandizement of criminal, fraud, sicko Trash, all y'all's hero.
oh, and FUCK EVANGELICALS
boutons_deux
11-03-2019, 01:22 PM
A presidential loathing for Ukraine is at the heart of the impeachment inquiry
Three of President Trump’s top advisers met with him in the Oval Office in May, determined to
convince him that the new Ukrainian leader was an ally deserving of U.S. support.
They had barely begun their pitch when Trump unloaded on them, according to current and former U.S. officials familiar with the meeting.
In Trump’s (so called) mind :lol, the officials said,
Ukraine’s entire leadership had colluded with the Democrats to undermine his 2016 presidential campaign.
“They tried to take me down,” Trump railed. :lol
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/a-presidential-loathing-for-ukraine-is-at-the-heart-of-the-impeachment-inquiry/2019/11/02/8280ee60-fcc5-11e9-ac8c-8eced29ca6ef_story.html?wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1
Trash is totally detached from reality, a deep, pervasively mentally ill piece of stinking shit
boutons_deux
11-04-2019, 10:29 AM
Pootin makes his move, Pootin lapdog/agent/client Trash does nothing
WHY RUSSIA IS ARMING A LONGTIME US ALLY IN ASIA
Sharing the stage with Russian President Vladimir Putin at the prestigious Valdai Discussion Club Forum in early October, Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte was his usual brash self.
He denounced the United States and Europe.
The ostensible reason was the West’s opposition to his drug war that has killed thousands of Filipinos. But the audience before him — Russia’s foreign policy elite — was no coincidence.
Duterte’s visit to Russia was the latest move in a fast-blossoming security partnership that’s quietly reshaping Asia’s strategic chessboard —
between the Philippines, a traditional American ally, and Russia, Washington’s top adversary.
Since Duterte took office in 2016, Russian warships have visited the Philippines six times.
Russia in 2017 donated thousands of assault rifles and helmets, nearly a million rounds of ammunition and 20 trucks to the Philippines.
The Philippines has also expressed interest in purchasing Russian submarines and helicopters,
https://www.ozy.com/fast-forward/why-is-russia-arming-a-long-time-u-s-ally-in-asia/220634/?utm_term=OZY&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=PDB%20%282019-11-04%2012:04:53%29 (https://www.ozy.com/fast-forward/why-is-russia-arming-a-long-time-u-s-ally-in-asia/220634/?utm_term=OZY&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=PDB%20%282019-11-04%2012:04:53%29)
Chris
11-04-2019, 01:49 PM
https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1191423754838126592?s=19
https://media.giphy.com/media/y8mThMjGBrQpG/giphy.gif
ChumpDumper
11-04-2019, 01:53 PM
https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1191423754838126592?s=19
https://media.giphy.com/media/y8mThMjGBrQpG/giphy.gifShe can ask pretty much anything. Wouldn't be surprised if this is laughed off though. Looks like she's getting paid just to construct a pardon rationale.
boutons_deux
11-04-2019, 02:19 PM
she's getting paid
... and with her silly reputation preceding her, she'll say any old shit, and still get paid.
RandomGuy
11-04-2019, 05:58 PM
I have always believed that the idea of Trump campaign colluding with Russia to steal the 2016 election was preposterous. Nothing has changed my opinion on that.
Maybe if you fucking read the Mueller report.
Jeesus. It's like you asshats are fact-proof.
RandomGuy
11-04-2019, 06:05 PM
https://twitter.com/SaraCarterDC/status/1188936077047975936?s=19
https://media.giphy.com/media/l0ErLeqamV3UOARsA/giphy.gif
and when this doesn't happen, you will, once again, look like a fucking idiot.
Poor Chris, always looking for a "w" in the wrong places... sucking up so much bullshit to do so. Keep slurping, idiot.
Chris
11-04-2019, 06:55 PM
https://i.imgur.com/dTcAHZc.jpg
ChumpDumper
11-04-2019, 06:56 PM
Qutter tier Qhris
Maybe if you fucking read the Mueller report.
Jeesus. It's like you asshats are fact-proof.
:lol
1. "The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."
2. "The investigation examined whether [contacts between Russia and Trump figures] involved or resulted in coordination or a conspiracy with the Trump Campaign and Russia, including with respect to Russia providing assistance to the Campaign in exchange for any sort of favorable treatment in the future. Based on the available information, the investigation did not establish such coordination."
3. "The investigation did not establish that [Carter] Page coordinated with the Russian government in its efforts to interfere with the 2016 election."
4. "The Office did not identify evidence in those [contacts between Russians and people around Trump after the GOP convention] of coordination between the Campaign and the Russian government."
5. "The Office did not identify evidence of a connection between Manafort's sharing polling data and Russia's interference in the election ... [and] the investigation did not establish that Manafort otherwise coordinated with the Russian government on its election-interference efforts."
6. "The investigation did not establish that these [contacts between Russians and people around Trump during the transition] reflected or constituted coordination between the Trump Campaign and Russia in its election interference activities."
7. "The investigation did not identify evidence that any U.S. persons conspired or coordinated with the [Russian disinformation campaign]."
DarrinS
11-04-2019, 07:54 PM
:lol
1. "The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."
2. "The investigation examined whether [contacts between Russia and Trump figures] involved or resulted in coordination or a conspiracy with the Trump Campaign and Russia, including with respect to Russia providing assistance to the Campaign in exchange for any sort of favorable treatment in the future. Based on the available information, the investigation did not establish such coordination."
3. "The investigation did not establish that [Carter] Page coordinated with the Russian government in its efforts to interfere with the 2016 election."
4. "The Office did not identify evidence in those [contacts between Russians and people around Trump after the GOP convention] of coordination between the Campaign and the Russian government."
5. "The Office did not identify evidence of a connection between Manafort's sharing polling data and Russia's interference in the election ... [and] the investigation did not establish that Manafort otherwise coordinated with the Russian government on its election-interference efforts."
6. "The investigation did not establish that these [contacts between Russians and people around Trump during the transition] reflected or constituted coordination between the Trump Campaign and Russia in its election interference activities."
7. "The investigation did not identify evidence that any U.S. persons conspired or coordinated with the [Russian disinformation campaign]."
RIP, RandomGuy. :lol
boutons_deux
11-05-2019, 09:10 AM
Nunes met with ‘Ukraine collusion’ conspiracy nut in May — and then started spreading his rumors
a Ukraine diplomat who has been pushing conspiracy theories about the 2016 election involving Democrats admitted that he has spoken with Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA) along with Rudy Giuliani.
According to the report, Andrii Telizhenko — who is at center of allegations that Kyiv meddled in the 2016 — said he met Nunes to talk about Ukraine and Russian politics.
Telizhenko
“he has played a key role in the promotion of the contentious narrative,
popular on the political right,
that the Ukrainian government worked with Democrats during the 2016 campaign to damage Trump.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/revealed-nunes-met-with-ukraine-collusion-conspiracy-nut-in-may-and-then-started-spreading-his-rumors/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2885
RandomGuy
11-05-2019, 10:36 AM
RIP, RandomGuy. :lol
Quote mining. He is fond of it.
Yet when I point out the actual collusion found, or the multiple counts of felony obstruction of justice, I get crickets.
You still haven't read the report, have you?
RandomGuy
11-05-2019, 10:37 AM
:lol
1. "The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."
2. "The investigation examined whether [contacts between Russia and Trump figures] involved or resulted in coordination or a conspiracy with the Trump Campaign and Russia, including with respect to Russia providing assistance to the Campaign in exchange for any sort of favorable treatment in the future. Based on the available information, the investigation did not establish such coordination."
3. "The investigation did not establish that [Carter] Page coordinated with the Russian government in its efforts to interfere with the 2016 election."
4. "The Office did not identify evidence in those [contacts between Russians and people around Trump after the GOP convention] of coordination between the Campaign and the Russian government."
5. "The Office did not identify evidence of a connection between Manafort's sharing polling data and Russia's interference in the election ... [and] the investigation did not establish that Manafort otherwise coordinated with the Russian government on its election-interference efforts."
6. "The investigation did not establish that these [contacts between Russians and people around Trump during the transition] reflected or constituted coordination between the Trump Campaign and Russia in its election interference activities."
7. "The investigation did not identify evidence that any U.S. persons conspired or coordinated with the [Russian disinformation campaign]."
Still haven't read the actual report have you, sophist? Jeezus, it is as if you guys are fact-proof.
RandomGuy
11-05-2019, 10:42 AM
Do you really think anyone here believes you when you pretend you were actually talking about “legal” collusion for the last 3+ years? :rollin
Keep obfuscating, sophist. There were secret meetings that fit the definition of "collusion".
Do you really think anyone here believes you when you pretend you were actually talking about "legal" collusion for the last 3+ years?
You stated "no collusion whatsoever" when the report shows meetings and discussions of all sorts, you resort to quote mining, and ignoring the felony obstruction of justice.
RandomGuy
11-05-2019, 11:19 AM
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/447915/
Pretty much the thrust of what you are going for. "no evidence" of "collusion". "its a made up scandal".
The first fails, as there hasn't been any real investigation done. There is plenty of evidence of something going on to warrant someone taking some serious, hard looks.
The huge problem, and it is one noted by the national review is that a total neophyte like Trump can be, and has already been, baited into doing something fatally stupid, i.e. obstruction of justice, in covering it up.
Clinton wasn't impeached because he got a BJ, he was impeached because he lied under oath about it.
Trump has, comically, all but admitted that he fired Comey to "take the pressure off", if the reports we have of his statements are to be believed. Those statements in the official records will out during the investigation.
I am inclined to tentatively accept the reports of what was said, as it appears reasonable to do so.
Trump's presidency may be tragicomically brief, if so.
Republicans will pay a very heavy price for covering for him.
Here is, for the record the earliest take on the whole thing a few months after the thread started about page 100 or so.
I was 100% right about the obstruction of justice, as well as collusion.
RandomGuy
11-05-2019, 11:19 AM
You are asking me to take on the burden of something I have not definitively asserted. I do think there is more than enough probable cause to do an active investigation into whether there was collusion.
For purposes of this thread though, the ultimate topic is what Flynn actually did, whether knowingly or not, who he took money from, and then what the Golfer-In-Chief decided to do with that information, if anything.
Flynn's actions, who he took money from, and why, form the basis of that probable cause, which is why you are trying so hard to change the subject, whether you think you are doing that or not.
Developing sufficient evidence requires following lines of inquiry, and establishing facts. Any good consideration follows through on one thread at a time, so since you think that the second half of that sentence hasn't "yet" been established, let's see what evidence to support it is available, then move on.
Another take.
DarrinS
11-05-2019, 11:22 AM
Here is, for the record the earliest take on the whole thing a few months after the thread started about page 100 or so.
I was 100% right about the obstruction of justice, as well as collusion.
:lol
boutons_deux
11-05-2019, 11:27 AM
Why have Trash, his mafiya, "forgotten", lied, obstructed for YEARS the Russian investigation?
Why is Trash/Julie Annie/Nunes/etc pushing Ukraine as the 2016 election meddler? To exonerate/hide their friend and puppet master Pootin?
RandomGuy
11-05-2019, 11:44 AM
:lol
How can you know what the Mueller report says without reading it?
Here is, for the record the earliest take on the whole thing a few months after the thread started about page 100 or so.
I was 100% right about the obstruction of justice, as well as collusion.
:rollin
1. "The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."
2. "The investigation examined whether [contacts between Russia and Trump figures] [b]involved or resulted in coordination or a conspiracy with the Trump Campaign and Russia, including with respect to Russia providing assistance to the Campaign in exchange for any sort of favorable treatment in the future. Based on the available information, the investigation did not establish such coordination."
3. "The investigation did not establish that [Carter] Page coordinated with the Russian government in its efforts to interfere with the 2016 election."
4. "The Office did not identify evidence in those [contacts between Russians and people around Trump after the GOP convention] of coordination between the Campaign and the Russian government."
5. "The Office did not identify evidence of a connection between Manafort's sharing polling data and Russia's interference in the election ... [and] the investigation did not establish that Manafort otherwise coordinated with the Russian government on its election-interference efforts."
6. "The investigation did not establish that these [contacts between Russians and people around Trump during the transition] reflected or constituted coordination between the Trump Campaign and Russia in its election interference activities."
7. "The investigation did not identify evidence that any U.S. persons conspired or coordinated with the [Russian disinformation campaign]."
boutons_deux
11-05-2019, 12:28 PM
Why have Trash, his mafiya, "forgotten", lied, obstructed for YEARS the Russian investigation?
Why is Trash/Julie Annie/Nunes/etc pushing Ukraine as the 2016 election meddler? To exonerate/hide their friend and puppet master Pootin?
Why are Repugs refusing to finance upgrading voting systems? (they Pootin helps Repugs and 3rd parties, hurts Dems)
The Michael Flynn smoking gun: FBI headquarters altered interview summary
As a self-proclaimed adherent to Hanlon’s Razor, I once cynically viewed the frenzied focus on FBI actions during the 2016 Russian election-meddling investigation as partisan and overwrought. Hanlon’s Razor suggests that we never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity or incompetence. Having proudly served in the FBI for 25 years, I bristled at insulting accusations of an onerous deep state conspiracy. Some obvious mistakes made during the investigation of the Trump campaign were quite possibly the result of two ham-handedly overzealous FBI headquarters denizens, Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, clumsily seeking to impress each other with ever-increasing levels of loathing for then-candidate Donald Trump.
FBI employees are entitled to their own political views. But senior-level decision-makers who express them on government devices, while overseeing a supremely consequential investigation into a political campaign, simply do not possess the requisite judgment and temperament for the job.
Their stunning text message exchanges and talk of an onerous “insurance policy” in the event Trump were to win prove how ill-suited they were for their positions in James Comey’s cabinet. What other steps might they have taken that have yet to be discovered? The inspector general is soon set to release a report into FBI actions in the effort to surveil the Trump campaign. Attorney General Bill Barr’s Justice Department is conducting its own review, and U.S. Attorney John Durham recently expanded his investigation into the case as well, by converting the review into a full-blown criminal investigation. Barr has faced backlash from critics of his investigation, who ironically have referred to it as a witch hunt.
But as we anxiously await the expected reports, there recently appeared some fairly explosive allegations into potential investigator misconduct that have not received the attention they deserve. With her filing of a blistering Motion to Compel against federal prosecutors in the Michael Flynn case just made public, Sidney Powell has upended my adherence to Hanlon’s Razor. Powell is the attorney for former national security adviser and retired Army Lt. Gen. Flynn, who pled guilty to one count of lying to FBI agents during the special counsel investigation. Powell’s motion seeks to unravel a case many feel was biased from its inception.
One of the most damning charges contained within Powell’s 37-page court brief is that Page, the DOJ lawyer assigned to the office of then-FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, may have materially altered Flynn’s interview FD-302, which was drafted by Strzok. FBI agents transfer handwritten interview notes onto a formal testimonial document, FD-302, within five days of conducting an interview, while recollections are still fresh.
It is unheard of for someone not actually on the interview itself to materially alter an FD-302. As an FBI agent, no one in my chain of command ever directed me to alter consequential wording. And as a longtime FBI supervisor, I never ever directed an agent to recollect something different from what they discerned during an interview. Returning a 302 for errors in grammar, punctuation, or syntax is appropriate. This occurs before the document is ultimately uploaded to a particular file, conjoined with the original interview notes which are safely secured inside a 1-A envelope, and secured as part of evidence at trial.
With this in mind, this related text message exchange from Strzok to Page dated Feb. 10, 2017, nauseated me:
"I made your edits and sent them to Joe. I also emailed you an updated 302. I’m not asking you to edit it this weekend, I just wanted to send it to you."
Powell charges that Page directed Strzok to alter his Flynn interview 302. As in most instances in life, words matter. The change in wording was instrumental in moving Flynn from a target to a subject. One recalls how critical wording was in the FBI’s decision not to argue that DOJ charge Hillary Clinton with a crime in the private email server investigation. Comey elected not to use “gross negligence” to characterize Clinton's actions — which would have been the required language in the mishandling of classified information statute — and instead settled upon the more benign and non-indictable “extreme carelessness."
Later, it was determined that none other than Strzok was the impetus behind the recrafting of Comey’s words.
Powell’s motion requests that Flynn’s case be dismissed. Central to this appeal are details surrounding Flynn’s first interview by the FBI on Jan. 24, 2017. Recall also how Comey famously told NBC’s Nicolle Wallace, in front of an audience, that Flynn was visited by FBI agents at the White House in chaotic early days of Trump transition because, in Comey’s words, “I sent them.”
Comey received warm laughter for his quip from an appreciative audience, reveled in the adulation, and further elaborated, providing this shockingly partisan move:
"Something we've — I probably wouldn't have done or maybe gotten away with in a more organized investigation — a more organized administration. In the George W. Bush administration, for example, or the Obama administration. The protocol, two men that all of us perhaps have increased appreciation for over the last two years. And in both those administrations there was process. And so, if the FBI wanted to send agents into the White House itself to interview a senior official, you would work through the White House Counsel and there'd be discussions and approvals and it would be there. And I thought, it's early enough, let's just send a couple of guys over. And so, we placed a call to Flynn, said, hey, we're sending a couple of guys over. Hope you'll talk to them. He said, sure. Nobody else was there. They interviewed him in a conference room in the Situation Room, and he lied to them. And that’s what he’s now pled guilty to."
So, did an accomplished 3-star general actually misrepresent the truth? Or, was his recollection of events later spun to be a mendacious accounting by overzealous investigators who followed their boss’s lead, while circumventing established protocol in an ambush-style interview? What apparently followed was a “tweaking” of the accounting to ensure Flynn be charged with Title 18 USC § 1001 – something I have long argued was never charged by any U.S. Attorney’s Office during my time serving in the FBI unless we wanted to threaten it and employ as leverage.
Setting aside valid arguments that the FBI acted inappropriately — treating the Trump White House differently than they would have treated Bush’s or Obama’s, as the hubristic Comey proudly admits — Powell’s charges of egregious government misconduct are certainly deserving of the court’s consideration. The withholding of clearly exculpatory material related to revelations that “important substantive changes were made to the Flynn 302” may well be central to the findings of Inspector General Michael Horowitz and Durham, as well.
Here’s me, acknowledging my mistake. I was dead wrong. It now seems there was a concerted effort, though isolated, within the upper-echelons of the FBI to influence the outcome of the Flynn investigation. By “dirtying up” Flynn, Comey’s FBI headquarters team of callow sycophants shortcut the investigative process. Arm-twisting Flynn through the “tweaked” version of his interview afforded him criminal exposure. The cocksure Comey team felt supremely confident that would inspire him “flipping” and give them the desperately sought-after evidence of Trump-Russia collusion that the wholly unverified Steele dossier was never remotely capable of providing.
I am physically nauseous as I type these words. I have long maintained that innocent mistakes were made and that the investigators at the center of this maelstrom were entitled to the benefit of the doubt.
No more.
They have tarnished the badge and forever stained an agency that deserved so much better from them. I am ashamed. The irreparable damage Comey’s team has done to the FBI will take a generation to reverse.
I ashamedly join Hanlon’s Razor in getting this one wrong.
James A. Gagliano (@JamesAGagliano) worked in the FBI for 25 years. He is a law enforcement analyst for CNN and an adjunct assistant professor in homeland security and criminal justice at St. John's University.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/the-michael-flynn-smoking-gun-fbi-headquarters-altered-interview-summary
Spurs Homer
11-05-2019, 02:25 PM
Lol. boom! ^
ChumpDumper
11-05-2019, 02:39 PM
The Michael Flynn smoking gun: FBI headquarters altered interview summary
As a self-proclaimed adherent to Hanlon’s Razor, I once cynically viewed the frenzied focus on FBI actions during the 2016 Russian election-meddling investigation as partisan and overwrought. Hanlon’s Razor suggests that we never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity or incompetence. Having proudly served in the FBI for 25 years, I bristled at insulting accusations of an onerous deep state conspiracy. Some obvious mistakes made during the investigation of the Trump campaign were quite possibly the result of two ham-handedly overzealous FBI headquarters denizens, Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, clumsily seeking to impress each other with ever-increasing levels of loathing for then-candidate Donald Trump.
FBI employees are entitled to their own political views. But senior-level decision-makers who express them on government devices, while overseeing a supremely consequential investigation into a political campaign, simply do not possess the requisite judgment and temperament for the job.
Their stunning text message exchanges and talk of an onerous “insurance policy” in the event Trump were to win prove how ill-suited they were for their positions in James Comey’s cabinet. What other steps might they have taken that have yet to be discovered? The inspector general is soon set to release a report into FBI actions in the effort to surveil the Trump campaign. Attorney General Bill Barr’s Justice Department is conducting its own review, and U.S. Attorney John Durham recently expanded his investigation into the case as well, by converting the review into a full-blown criminal investigation. Barr has faced backlash from critics of his investigation, who ironically have referred to it as a witch hunt.
But as we anxiously await the expected reports, there recently appeared some fairly explosive allegations into potential investigator misconduct that have not received the attention they deserve. With her filing of a blistering Motion to Compel against federal prosecutors in the Michael Flynn case just made public, Sidney Powell has upended my adherence to Hanlon’s Razor. Powell is the attorney for former national security adviser and retired Army Lt. Gen. Flynn, who pled guilty to one count of lying to FBI agents during the special counsel investigation. Powell’s motion seeks to unravel a case many feel was biased from its inception.
One of the most damning charges contained within Powell’s 37-page court brief is that Page, the DOJ lawyer assigned to the office of then-FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, may have materially altered Flynn’s interview FD-302, which was drafted by Strzok. FBI agents transfer handwritten interview notes onto a formal testimonial document, FD-302, within five days of conducting an interview, while recollections are still fresh.
It is unheard of for someone not actually on the interview itself to materially alter an FD-302. As an FBI agent, no one in my chain of command ever directed me to alter consequential wording. And as a longtime FBI supervisor, I never ever directed an agent to recollect something different from what they discerned during an interview. Returning a 302 for errors in grammar, punctuation, or syntax is appropriate. This occurs before the document is ultimately uploaded to a particular file, conjoined with the original interview notes which are safely secured inside a 1-A envelope, and secured as part of evidence at trial.
With this in mind, this related text message exchange from Strzok to Page dated Feb. 10, 2017, nauseated me:
"I made your edits and sent them to Joe. I also emailed you an updated 302. I’m not asking you to edit it this weekend, I just wanted to send it to you."
Powell charges that Page directed Strzok to alter his Flynn interview 302. As in most instances in life, words matter. The change in wording was instrumental in moving Flynn from a target to a subject. One recalls how critical wording was in the FBI’s decision not to argue that DOJ charge Hillary Clinton with a crime in the private email server investigation. Comey elected not to use “gross negligence” to characterize Clinton's actions — which would have been the required language in the mishandling of classified information statute — and instead settled upon the more benign and non-indictable “extreme carelessness."
Later, it was determined that none other than Strzok was the impetus behind the recrafting of Comey’s words.
Powell’s motion requests that Flynn’s case be dismissed. Central to this appeal are details surrounding Flynn’s first interview by the FBI on Jan. 24, 2017. Recall also how Comey famously told NBC’s Nicolle Wallace, in front of an audience, that Flynn was visited by FBI agents at the White House in chaotic early days of Trump transition because, in Comey’s words, “I sent them.”
Comey received warm laughter for his quip from an appreciative audience, reveled in the adulation, and further elaborated, providing this shockingly partisan move:
"Something we've — I probably wouldn't have done or maybe gotten away with in a more organized investigation — a more organized administration. In the George W. Bush administration, for example, or the Obama administration. The protocol, two men that all of us perhaps have increased appreciation for over the last two years. And in both those administrations there was process. And so, if the FBI wanted to send agents into the White House itself to interview a senior official, you would work through the White House Counsel and there'd be discussions and approvals and it would be there. And I thought, it's early enough, let's just send a couple of guys over. And so, we placed a call to Flynn, said, hey, we're sending a couple of guys over. Hope you'll talk to them. He said, sure. Nobody else was there. They interviewed him in a conference room in the Situation Room, and he lied to them. And that’s what he’s now pled guilty to."
So, did an accomplished 3-star general actually misrepresent the truth? Or, was his recollection of events later spun to be a mendacious accounting by overzealous investigators who followed their boss’s lead, while circumventing established protocol in an ambush-style interview? What apparently followed was a “tweaking” of the accounting to ensure Flynn be charged with Title 18 USC § 1001 – something I have long argued was never charged by any U.S. Attorney’s Office during my time serving in the FBI unless we wanted to threaten it and employ as leverage.
Setting aside valid arguments that the FBI acted inappropriately — treating the Trump White House differently than they would have treated Bush’s or Obama’s, as the hubristic Comey proudly admits — Powell’s charges of egregious government misconduct are certainly deserving of the court’s consideration. The withholding of clearly exculpatory material related to revelations that “important substantive changes were made to the Flynn 302” may well be central to the findings of Inspector General Michael Horowitz and Durham, as well.
Here’s me, acknowledging my mistake. I was dead wrong. It now seems there was a concerted effort, though isolated, within the upper-echelons of the FBI to influence the outcome of the Flynn investigation. By “dirtying up” Flynn, Comey’s FBI headquarters team of callow sycophants shortcut the investigative process. Arm-twisting Flynn through the “tweaked” version of his interview afforded him criminal exposure. The cocksure Comey team felt supremely confident that would inspire him “flipping” and give them the desperately sought-after evidence of Trump-Russia collusion that the wholly unverified Steele dossier was never remotely capable of providing.
I am physically nauseous as I type these words. I have long maintained that innocent mistakes were made and that the investigators at the center of this maelstrom were entitled to the benefit of the doubt.
No more.
They have tarnished the badge and forever stained an agency that deserved so much better from them. I am ashamed. The irreparable damage Comey’s team has done to the FBI will take a generation to reverse.
I ashamedly join Hanlon’s Razor in getting this one wrong.
James A. Gagliano (@JamesAGagliano) worked in the FBI for 25 years. He is a law enforcement analyst for CNN and an adjunct assistant professor in homeland security and criminal justice at St. John's University.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/the-michael-flynn-smoking-gun-fbi-headquarters-altered-interview-summaryThen why did Flynn lie about lying twice in federal court?
Explain.
Mitch
11-05-2019, 02:42 PM
Resident commies never learn, tbh. Thought this thread would be dead after mueller time :lol
Resident commies never learn, tbh. Thought this thread would be dead after mueller time :lolI hope it never dies it’s too much fun :lol
https://mobile.twitter.com/mateagold/status/1191807764353495041
Chris
11-05-2019, 03:51 PM
Jusf need a Mueller coloring book, a safe space, and we jet set.
ElNono
11-05-2019, 04:08 PM
The Michael Flynn smoking gun: FBI headquarters altered interview summary
As a self-proclaimed adherent to Hanlon’s Razor, I once cynically viewed the frenzied focus on FBI actions during the 2016 Russian election-meddling investigation as partisan and overwrought. Hanlon’s Razor suggests that we never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity or incompetence. Having proudly served in the FBI for 25 years, I bristled at insulting accusations of an onerous deep state conspiracy. Some obvious mistakes made during the investigation of the Trump campaign were quite possibly the result of two ham-handedly overzealous FBI headquarters denizens, Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, clumsily seeking to impress each other with ever-increasing levels of loathing for then-candidate Donald Trump.
FBI employees are entitled to their own political views. But senior-level decision-makers who express them on government devices, while overseeing a supremely consequential investigation into a political campaign, simply do not possess the requisite judgment and temperament for the job.
Their stunning text message exchanges and talk of an onerous “insurance policy” in the event Trump were to win prove how ill-suited they were for their positions in James Comey’s cabinet. What other steps might they have taken that have yet to be discovered? The inspector general is soon set to release a report into FBI actions in the effort to surveil the Trump campaign. Attorney General Bill Barr’s Justice Department is conducting its own review, and U.S. Attorney John Durham recently expanded his investigation into the case as well, by converting the review into a full-blown criminal investigation. Barr has faced backlash from critics of his investigation, who ironically have referred to it as a witch hunt.
But as we anxiously await the expected reports, there recently appeared some fairly explosive allegations into potential investigator misconduct that have not received the attention they deserve. With her filing of a blistering Motion to Compel against federal prosecutors in the Michael Flynn case just made public, Sidney Powell has upended my adherence to Hanlon’s Razor. Powell is the attorney for former national security adviser and retired Army Lt. Gen. Flynn, who pled guilty to one count of lying to FBI agents during the special counsel investigation. Powell’s motion seeks to unravel a case many feel was biased from its inception.
One of the most damning charges contained within Powell’s 37-page court brief is that Page, the DOJ lawyer assigned to the office of then-FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, may have materially altered Flynn’s interview FD-302, which was drafted by Strzok. FBI agents transfer handwritten interview notes onto a formal testimonial document, FD-302, within five days of conducting an interview, while recollections are still fresh.
It is unheard of for someone not actually on the interview itself to materially alter an FD-302. As an FBI agent, no one in my chain of command ever directed me to alter consequential wording. And as a longtime FBI supervisor, I never ever directed an agent to recollect something different from what they discerned during an interview. Returning a 302 for errors in grammar, punctuation, or syntax is appropriate. This occurs before the document is ultimately uploaded to a particular file, conjoined with the original interview notes which are safely secured inside a 1-A envelope, and secured as part of evidence at trial.
With this in mind, this related text message exchange from Strzok to Page dated Feb. 10, 2017, nauseated me:
"I made your edits and sent them to Joe. I also emailed you an updated 302. I’m not asking you to edit it this weekend, I just wanted to send it to you."
Powell charges that Page directed Strzok to alter his Flynn interview 302. As in most instances in life, words matter. The change in wording was instrumental in moving Flynn from a target to a subject. One recalls how critical wording was in the FBI’s decision not to argue that DOJ charge Hillary Clinton with a crime in the private email server investigation. Comey elected not to use “gross negligence” to characterize Clinton's actions — which would have been the required language in the mishandling of classified information statute — and instead settled upon the more benign and non-indictable “extreme carelessness."
Later, it was determined that none other than Strzok was the impetus behind the recrafting of Comey’s words.
Powell’s motion requests that Flynn’s case be dismissed. Central to this appeal are details surrounding Flynn’s first interview by the FBI on Jan. 24, 2017. Recall also how Comey famously told NBC’s Nicolle Wallace, in front of an audience, that Flynn was visited by FBI agents at the White House in chaotic early days of Trump transition because, in Comey’s words, “I sent them.”
Comey received warm laughter for his quip from an appreciative audience, reveled in the adulation, and further elaborated, providing this shockingly partisan move:
"Something we've — I probably wouldn't have done or maybe gotten away with in a more organized investigation — a more organized administration. In the George W. Bush administration, for example, or the Obama administration. The protocol, two men that all of us perhaps have increased appreciation for over the last two years. And in both those administrations there was process. And so, if the FBI wanted to send agents into the White House itself to interview a senior official, you would work through the White House Counsel and there'd be discussions and approvals and it would be there. And I thought, it's early enough, let's just send a couple of guys over. And so, we placed a call to Flynn, said, hey, we're sending a couple of guys over. Hope you'll talk to them. He said, sure. Nobody else was there. They interviewed him in a conference room in the Situation Room, and he lied to them. And that’s what he’s now pled guilty to."
So, did an accomplished 3-star general actually misrepresent the truth? Or, was his recollection of events later spun to be a mendacious accounting by overzealous investigators who followed their boss’s lead, while circumventing established protocol in an ambush-style interview? What apparently followed was a “tweaking” of the accounting to ensure Flynn be charged with Title 18 USC § 1001 – something I have long argued was never charged by any U.S. Attorney’s Office during my time serving in the FBI unless we wanted to threaten it and employ as leverage.
Setting aside valid arguments that the FBI acted inappropriately — treating the Trump White House differently than they would have treated Bush’s or Obama’s, as the hubristic Comey proudly admits — Powell’s charges of egregious government misconduct are certainly deserving of the court’s consideration. The withholding of clearly exculpatory material related to revelations that “important substantive changes were made to the Flynn 302” may well be central to the findings of Inspector General Michael Horowitz and Durham, as well.
Here’s me, acknowledging my mistake. I was dead wrong. It now seems there was a concerted effort, though isolated, within the upper-echelons of the FBI to influence the outcome of the Flynn investigation. By “dirtying up” Flynn, Comey’s FBI headquarters team of callow sycophants shortcut the investigative process. Arm-twisting Flynn through the “tweaked” version of his interview afforded him criminal exposure. The cocksure Comey team felt supremely confident that would inspire him “flipping” and give them the desperately sought-after evidence of Trump-Russia collusion that the wholly unverified Steele dossier was never remotely capable of providing.
I am physically nauseous as I type these words. I have long maintained that innocent mistakes were made and that the investigators at the center of this maelstrom were entitled to the benefit of the doubt.
No more.
They have tarnished the badge and forever stained an agency that deserved so much better from them. I am ashamed. The irreparable damage Comey’s team has done to the FBI will take a generation to reverse.
I ashamedly join Hanlon’s Razor in getting this one wrong.
James A. Gagliano (@JamesAGagliano) worked in the FBI for 25 years. He is a law enforcement analyst for CNN and an adjunct assistant professor in homeland security and criminal justice at St. John's University.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/the-michael-flynn-smoking-gun-fbi-headquarters-altered-interview-summary
Didn’t know Flynn waived any requests for further discovery as part of his guilty plea. That really sucks for him and his new lawyer.
boutons_deux
11-05-2019, 07:48 PM
Top Civil Rights Lawyers Warn Mark Zuckerberg of Potential Criminal Liability in Scathing Open Letter (https://gizmodo.com/top-civil-rights-lawyers-warn-mark-zuckerberg-of-potent-1839637024)
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_1600/mf2y8rhcar76wskbdwdw.jpg
In a letter aimed at gutting Facebook’s rationale for allowing misleading and dishonest political ads across its platform,
a prominent civil rights organization on Tuesday issued a stern warning to Mark Zuckerberg,
outlining a number of federal laws to which, the group claims, Facebook may theoretically be held to account.
Facebook is exposing itself to liability under various federal and state-level statutes,
including those aimed at promoting voting rights,
protecting consumers from unethical business practices, and
preventing racial and religious discrimination.
“We know that your decision to allow unchecked false statements by politicians will increase voter and census disinformation campaigns and increase activity exposing Africans Americans and other people of color to harm.”
“The Communications Decency Act will not save you,”
. “When a hate group uses events pages
to target religious minorities,
a conspiracy theory goes viral, or
a hostile actor engages in voter suppression,
Facebook profits from the ads running alongside such content,”https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAAAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAE AAAICTAEAOw==
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAAAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAE AAAICTAEAOw==
42 U.S.C. 1981 (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/1981) (Section 1981):
“Facebook may be liable, possibly criminally, if it helps bad actors engage in voter suppression on the platform.
Facebook often embeds its employees with large political campaigns to help them optimize their advertising.
Facebook could be liable if it helps these campaigns distribute suppressive ads,”
Facebook could be held liable, she said,
if the company “delivers ads to people of color that are harmful or valueless,
such as false statements designed to deceptively suppress voting or census participation.”
It may also be held liable under the same law if it “knows of a conspiracy to interfere with voting rights, has the ability to prevent it,”
https://gizmodo.com/top-civil-rights-lawyers-warn-mark-zuckerberg-of-potent-1839637024
RandomGuy
11-06-2019, 09:42 AM
:rollin
1. "The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."
2. "The investigation examined whether [contacts between Russia and Trump figures] [b]involved or resulted in coordination or a conspiracy with the Trump Campaign and Russia, including with respect to Russia providing assistance to the Campaign in exchange for any sort of favorable treatment in the future. Based on the available information, the investigation did not establish such coordination."
3. "The investigation did not establish that [Carter] Page coordinated with the Russian government in its efforts to interfere with the 2016 election."
4. "The Office did not identify evidence in those [contacts between Russians and people around Trump after the GOP convention] of coordination between the Campaign and the Russian government."
5. "The Office did not identify evidence of a connection between Manafort's sharing polling data and Russia's interference in the election ... [and] the investigation did not establish that Manafort otherwise coordinated with the Russian government on its election-interference efforts."
6. "The investigation did not establish that these [contacts between Russians and people around Trump during the transition] reflected or constituted coordination between the Trump Campaign and Russia in its election interference activities."
7. "The investigation did not identify evidence that any U.S. persons conspired or coordinated with the [Russian disinformation campaign]."
https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/65/Cherry-Picking
Cherry Picking
(also known as: ignoring inconvenient data, suppressed evidence, fallacy of incomplete evidence, argument by selective observation, argument by half-truth, card stacking, fallacy of exclusion, ignoring the counter evidence, one-sided assessment, slanting, one-sidedness)
Description: When only select evidence is presented in order to persuade the audience to accept a position, and evidence that would go against the position is withheld. The stronger the withheld evidence, the more fallacious the argument.
Logical Form:
Evidence A and evidence B is available.
Evidence A supports the claim of person 1.
Evidence B supports the counterclaim of person 2.
Therefore, person 1 presents only evidence A.
Paul Manafort served on the Trump Campaign, including a period as campaign chairman, from March to August 2016. Manafort had connections to Russia through his prior work for Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska and later through his work for a pro-Russian regime in Ukraine. Manafort stayed in touch with these contacts during the campaign period through Konstantin Kilimnik, a longtime Manafort employee who previously ran Manafort’s office in Kiev and who the FBI assesses to have ties to Russian intelligence.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/04/18/us/politics/mueller-report-document.html#g-page-139
Dishonest to the last. Sophist.
RandomGuy
11-06-2019, 09:44 AM
Resident commies never learn, tbh. Thought this thread would be dead after mueller time :lol
I would be wiling to bet you haven't read that report either.
RandomGuy
11-06-2019, 09:56 AM
... Returning a 302 for errors in grammar, punctuation, or syntax is appropriate. This occurs before the document is ultimately uploaded to a particular file, conjoined with the original interview notes which are safely secured inside a 1-A envelope, and secured as part of evidence at trial.
With this in mind, this related text message exchange from Strzok to Page dated Feb. 10, 2017, nauseated me:
"I made your edits and sent them to Joe. I also emailed you an updated 302. I’m not asking you to edit it this weekend, I just wanted to send it to you."
...
Comey received warm laughter for his quip from an appreciative audience, reveled in the adulation, and further elaborated, providing this shockingly partisan move:
"Something we've — I probably wouldn't have done or maybe gotten away with in a more organized investigation — a more organized administration. In the George W. Bush administration, for example, or the Obama administration. The protocol, two men that all of us perhaps have increased appreciation for over the last two years. And in both those administrations there was process. And so, if the FBI wanted to send agents into the White House itself to interview a senior official, you would work through the White House Counsel and there'd be discussions and approvals and it would be there. And I thought, it's early enough, let's just send a couple of guys over. And so, we placed a call to Flynn, said, hey, we're sending a couple of guys over. Hope you'll talk to them. He said, sure. Nobody else was there. They interviewed him in a conference room in the Situation Room, and he lied to them. And that’s what he’s now pled guilty to."
James A. Gagliano (@JamesAGagliano) worked in the FBI for 25 years. He is a law enforcement analyst for CNN and an adjunct assistant professor in homeland security and criminal justice at St. John's University.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/the-michael-flynn-smoking-gun-fbi-headquarters-altered-interview-summary
No specifics as to what the "edits" are are given here, and the author acknowledges that proof-reading is routine, as one would expect.
So the smoking gun is, essentially, that the report was proof-read, and that the Trump administration was disorganized and incompetent in allowing their guy to be interviewed by the FBI without vetting by the White House counsel.
BFD.
The judge in this case is already not happy with Flynn, and if those "edits" turn out to actually be corrections of typos... you are going to have another pizzagate argle bargle on your hands.
Why don't you try claiming "no quid pro quo" for an encore. :lol
Mitch
11-06-2019, 11:52 AM
I would be wiling to bet you haven't read that report either.
I'd be willing to bet you waste far too much time hating somebody who isn't going to be taken out of office :lol
RandomGuy
11-06-2019, 04:30 PM
I'd be willing to bet you waste far too much time hating somebody who isn't going to be taken out of office :lol
Feel free to define the "correct amount of time".
If you really still feel like betting, though, the odds of impeachment stand about at 81% at this point, with the odds of removal at about 24%. Odds of winning the 2020 election about 28%
Feel free to put your money on one of those outcomes.
Mitch
11-06-2019, 05:28 PM
Feel free to define the "correct amount of time".
If you really still feel like betting, though, the odds of impeachment stand about at 81% at this point, with the odds of removal at about 24%. Odds of winning the 2020 election about 28%
Feel free to put your money on one of those outcomes.
I mean you, Johnny and cumdumpster have been circle jerking this thread for what? 2 years? Probably 1.5k posts between you 3 dimwits here alone.
I'm just sayin, trump aint going to jail, he's finishing his term and probably will get another. Once that happens you'll just be posting whatever bad tweet or article you can find about him daily to cope with the fact you are never getting the promised "Mueller time" you thought you'd get.
Kind of pathetic, tbh. But don't let me ruin your party, another 1k posts until 2020 election and you can probably slap another 3-4k on when he likely wins.
And if he doesn't? Big deal, life goes on and you'll probably start sucking Warren or Biden's balloon knot for 4 years.
spurraider21
11-06-2019, 05:38 PM
I mean you, Johnny and cumdumpster have been circle jerking this thread for what? 2 years? Probably 1.5k posts between you 3 dimwits here alone.
I'm just sayin, trump aint going to jail, he's finishing his term and probably will get another. Once that happens you'll just be posting whatever bad tweet or article you can find about him daily to cope with the fact you are never getting the promised "Mueller time" you thought you'd get.
Kind of pathetic, tbh. But don't let me ruin your party, another 1k posts until 2020 election and you can probably slap another 3-4k on when he likely wins.
And if he doesn't? Big deal, life goes on and you'll probably start sucking Warren or Biden's balloon knot for 4 years.
you undershot it quite a bit tbh :lol
https://i.gyazo.com/3e5d07ad8fa71f3bfa31b9f20cff084b.png
Mitch
11-06-2019, 05:54 PM
you undershot it quite a bit tbh :lol
https://i.gyazo.com/3e5d07ad8fa71f3bfa31b9f20cff084b.png
:lol I was relating pages to posts for some reason. Oh well, nose on with Johnny and cumdump though
spurraider21
11-06-2019, 05:58 PM
:lol I was relating pages to posts for some reason. Oh well, nose on with Johnny and cumdump though
i mean you can basically divide djohn's content by 3 or 4, since he would just post 4 separate tweets saying the same thing linking to the same article, but from different tweeters
Mitch
11-06-2019, 06:06 PM
i mean you can basically divide djohn's content by 3 or 4, since he would just post 4 separate tweets saying the same thing linking to the same article, but from different tweeters
Johnny should be doing overtime here since he's not waxing his nub over the rockets atm. Seems to be his safe space
boutons_deux
11-07-2019, 10:47 AM
‘The truth looked bad for Donald Trump’:
Here are 5 stunning moments from the first day of Roger Stone’s trial
1. Assistant U.S. Attorney Aaron Zelinsky said in his opening statement:
“Evidence will show Roger Stone lied to the House Intelligence Committee because the truth looked bad.
The truth looked bad for the Trump campaign and the truth looked bad for Donald Trump.”
2. Stone’s own lawyer does not paint a pretty picture of his own client.
3. “To save Trump’s ass.”
4. “Tell [Mueller] to go fuck himself.”
5. Zelinsky’s story strongly suggests that Trump lied to Mueller.
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/the-truth-looked-bad-for-donald-trump-here-are-5-stunning-moments-from-the-first-day-of-roger-stones-trial/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2914 (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/the-truth-looked-bad-for-donald-trump-here-are-5-stunning-moments-from-the-first-day-of-roger-stones-trial/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2914)
Prosecutor Z is from Barr's corrupt DoJ! :lol
boutons_deux
11-07-2019, 05:28 PM
Roger Stone in serious trouble as prosecutors play jury audio of him allegedly lying to Congress
prosecutors showed particularly damning evidence in the latest day of the trial: audio clips of Stone allegedly lying to Congress.
Among the tapes were Stone telling Rep. Mike Quigley (D-IL) he only communicated with his intermediary with WikiLeaks “Over the phone,” and told Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) that “He’s not an email guy.”
“Prosecutors say Stone’s claim that [comedian Randy] Credico was his main backchannel to Assange was itself a lie,” wrote Friedman.
“In fact, Jerome Corsi — a right-wing conspiracy theorist who worked with Stone to help Trump in 2016 — provided Stone with what Corsi said was inside information on Assange’s plans weeks before Credico shared other information about WikiLeaks.
Stone also had written communications with Corsi that he failed to turn over to the committee.”
Ultimately, said prosecutors,
Stone’s “state of mind undermines any argument that he did this in a conscious, evil, purposeful way to mislead the committee.”
“Prosecutors aren’t simply painting Stone as a liar.
They also took time Thursday to portray him as a jerk,”
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/roger-stone-in-serious-trouble-as-prosecutors-play-jury-audio-of-him-allegedly-lying-to-congress/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/roger-stone-in-serious-trouble-as-prosecutors-play-jury-audio-of-him-allegedly-lying-to-congress/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)
Spurs Homer
11-07-2019, 08:17 PM
So Stone lied repeatedly - what a shock!
Stone's reason for lying repeatedly? Because the truth would make trump and trump campaign look bad for conspiring with russia
what a shock!
djohn2oo8
11-08-2019, 02:32 PM
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:lmao :lmao :lmao Lordy!!!!!
djohn2oo8
11-08-2019, 02:37 PM
1192888277973577728
djohn2oo8
11-08-2019, 02:39 PM
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once the rest of these indictments are unsealed, It’s game over like Guccifer :lmao
Spurs Homer
11-08-2019, 02:40 PM
Whatashock! ^
djohn2oo8
11-08-2019, 02:40 PM
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djohn2oo8
11-08-2019, 02:51 PM
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Bannon!!
djohn2oo8
11-08-2019, 03:02 PM
1192894962389700610
djohn2oo8
11-08-2019, 03:11 PM
1192894807833817088
:lmao that looks like some goddamn collusion
djohn2oo8
11-08-2019, 03:12 PM
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:lmao lordy!!!
1192895306494595074
:lmao lordy!!!
How many times must you be reminded that Mueller investigated and shot down this ridiculous conspiracy theory? Mueller made it clear as day none of them had any coordination with Wikileaks via Corsi’s statement of offense. Mueller had Corsi admit he lied about Wikileaks.
By the way welcome back to the biggest flop of a thread in Spurtstalk history :rollin
Where’s the 2 grand you owe me faggot?
djohn2oo8
11-08-2019, 03:50 PM
Solly cholly. Bannon named Stone. You should go back and re read Mueller’s report, plenty of Ongoing cases in there :)
Solly cholly. Bannon named Stone. You should go back and re read Mueller’s report, plenty of Ongoing cases in there :)
And Mueller said Corsi lied to Stone about Wikileaks.
Where’s the 2 grand you owe me faggot?
djohn2oo8
11-08-2019, 04:02 PM
How many times must you be reminded that Mueller investigated and shot down this ridiculous conspiracy theory? Mueller made it clear as day none of them had any coordination with Wikileaks via Corsi’s statement of offense. Mueller had Corsi admit he lied about Wikileaks.
By the way welcome back to the biggest flop of a thread in Spurtstalk history :rollin
Where’s the 2 grand you owe me faggot?
ill engage here. Mueller’s report said he did not discover a criminal conspiracy, for one because only a court can prove a criminal conspiracy, because a conviction would first need to happen. Mueller also said a thorough FBI investigation would uncover it and is also necessary. He exonerated no one.
Bannon testifies under oath Stone was the backchannel. Sorry, but that’s the shit sandwich you are going to eat and I’ll be proven right yet again
djohn2oo8
11-08-2019, 04:03 PM
Stone knew the Wikileaks dump was coming. Bitch :lol
Solly cholly. Bannon named Stone. You should go back and re read Mueller’s report, plenty of Ongoing cases in there :)
https://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/documents/politics/draft-jerome-corsi-statement-of-offense/3324/
:lol your hero shitting all over you
ill engage hereExcellent. Where’s the 2 grand you owe me faggot?
Bannon testifies under oath Stone was the backchannel. Sorry, but that’s the shit sandwich you are going to eat and I’ll be proven right yet again
https://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/documents/politics/draft-jerome-corsi-statement-of-offense/3324/
you strolled right back in your pathetic thread with your chest puffed out and I again sent you running and hiding like the bitch you are :lol
djohn2oo8
11-08-2019, 09:17 PM
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/74411245_3542476152444373_5166632918767894528_n.jp g?_nc_cat=109&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_oc=AQk0epIqQ2KYCHizRLqEES5y_t0zr3HSi2_49hf2OIe JVq7l5MRuI6Tn7T8z6Gmer9c&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=9bcce8ae20bc5e3cc95312a59a131091&oe=5E58100D
djohn2oo8
11-08-2019, 09:18 PM
TSA. What’s case number 11?
djohn2oo8
11-08-2019, 09:18 PM
Underneath Roger Stone with Investigation ongoing... :)
djohn2oo8
11-08-2019, 09:18 PM
Right above referrals ;)
djohn2oo8
11-08-2019, 09:19 PM
United States vs.....
:)
Spurs Homer
11-08-2019, 09:20 PM
Lol
djohn2oo8
11-08-2019, 09:23 PM
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Ahhh going to enjoy this
djohn2oo8
11-08-2019, 09:40 PM
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