Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

[djohn2oo8]

Go ask Kyle Griffin fart catcher.

You said he obstructed. In what ways?

[Reck]

Go ask Kyle Griffin fart catcher.

Talking about the devil (Not actual) here is one more tweet.

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Chris, why is every person in the White House so eager to leave? Poor T-Rex is beggin to be fired but dear leader just won't do it. Much like Sessions.

[Chris]

I'm saying it makes an obstruction case less likely.

No you didn't say that at all.


How are you saying he obstructed justice?

He didn't. It's impossible since he recused himself.

[djohn2oo8]

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Even the Rex can admit it

[Chris]

Talking about the devil (Not actual) here is one more tweet.

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Chris, why is every person in the White House so eager to leave? Poor T-Rex is beggin to be fired but dear leader just won't do it. Much like Sessions.


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Even the Rex can admit it

:lol

[Reck]

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koriwhat Your thoughts on this?

I know you were saying how Rosenstein handled himself the other day with itegrity.

This move would make Trump look pretty suspicious, dont you think?

[Pavlov]

No you didn't say that at all.I just did.


He didn't. It's impossible since he recused himself.You were doing so well for....one question.

How are you, Chris, saying he obstructed justice to fit your theory?

[Reck]

Interesting. Click tweet to read entire thread.
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[Chris]

How are you, Chris, saying he obstructed justice to fit your theory?

Do you understand the only reason there is a special counsel is because he recused himself?

[Reck]

Do you understand the only reason there is a special counsel is because he recused himself?

Umm no.

The sole reason there is a special counsel is because he canned Comey.

[Pavlov]

Do you understand the only reason there is a special counsel is because he recused himself?And what does that have to do with obstructing justice?

A recusal is done in the interest of justice.

[DarrinS]

Prepare for a humiliating letdown.

[Pavlov]

Prepare for a humiliating letdown.Darrin, have you ever actually said anything on this forum?

[DarrinS]

Darrin, have you ever actually said anything on this forum?

I just did.

[Pavlov]

I just did.Nope. Just a random jumble of words directed at no one meaning nothing.

[DarrinS]

Nope. Just a random jumble of words directed at no one meaning nothing.

Ok. I’ll bump in the aftermath.

[Pavlov]

Ok. I’ll bump in the aftermath.Aftermath of what?

Use your words, Darrin.

[TSA]

Prepare for a humiliating letdown.

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This thread’s letdown for some will be more epic than election night

[Pavlov]

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This thread’s letdown for some will be more epic than election nightOh? What is your prediction, TSA?

[Reck]

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This thread’s letdown for some will be more epic than election night

So what are you saying this time? Signing onto the Chris theory that Mueller and Trump are working together now for a greater purpose?

[TSA]

Oh? What is your prediction, TSA?

You quoted it dipshit

[TSA]

So what are you saying this time? Signing onto the Chris theory that Mueller and Trump are working together now for a greater purpose?

I hope you’ll stay this time.

[Reck]

I hope you’ll stay this time.

Yeah, sure I will.

But you didn’t answer the question. What is your new take on Trump not firing Mueller as of right now?

[TSA]

Yeah, sure I will.

But you didn’t answer the question. What is your new take on Trump not firing Mueller as of right now?

I never had a take on Trump firing Mueller to begin with.

[AaronY]

And AaronY (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=27732), did you even read the article? It is still white nationalism. The argument is not that white nationalism is bad but rather that the white nationalism of duck dynasty and white trash is not what should be aspired to but rather that found in boardrooms and elites. He even pointed out the "stupidity" of blacks to make his point.

The article there barely has anything to do with Trump specifically.
He pointed out a mindset some blacks adopt specifically showing how Tupac didn't always used to be that way then he showed how in many whites adopt a similar mindset. It's really insightful and you could learn a lot from it if you were obstinately opposed to it since the words "National Review" appear in the url

[Reck]

I never had a take on Trump firing Mueller to begin with.

I figured you did since you made that comment about us being dissapointed about Mueller's findings.

[Pavlov]

You quoted it dipshitWhen did you become such a huge pussy? I mean all of you post so scurred these days. Won't say what you mean. Won't explain yourselves at all. Won't answer simple yes or no questions.

It's not like you guys can change your e-reps at this point.

[Spurminator]

Plenty of reasonable people know the Mueller investigation may not reveal any coordination between Trump himself and Russia. It may not reveal much of anything more. But at this point in his Presidency, posting a video of Donald Trump saying anything as a predictor of what's to come strikes me as empty cheerleading at best and flat stupid at worst.

[boutons_deux]

"may not reveal any coordination between Trump himself and Russia"

People PAYING ATTENTION to all the lying and covering up by Trash and his mafiya know there was more than just passive knowledge by Trash that Pootin was working to hurt Hillary and to help Trash, coupled with Trash's absolute refusal to say everything positive about Pootin and Russia and nothing negative.

Firing of Comey knowing that Flynn had lied, and dictating the lying letter to Kushner about the Russian adoption meeting are both obstruction of justice.

As the Congressional Repugs cave to Trash's pressure to kill their investigations, I'm pretty sure they will not impeach and convict, and his kakistocratic cabinet won't 25th him.

More evidence of non-impeachment is that (enough) Repugs, in concert with Fox, are daily trying to delegitimize Mueller.

Whether Trash stays in office or not is totally a sideshow of irrelevance to the oligarchy's legislative and judicial bulldozer which will continue rigging, if not destroying, govt in the oligarchy's favor.

[RandomGuy]

When did you become such a huge pussy? I mean all of you post so scurred these days. Won't say what you mean. Won't explain yourselves at all. Won't answer simple yes or no questions.

It's not like you guys can change your e-reps at this point.

I will never understand why people can't admit when they might be wrong, or admit someone makes a good point. Many act as if admitting weakness is akin to admitting defeat, which is silly, imo. Complex topics deserve a bit of give and take on several fronts.

[RandomGuy]

You don't care about conflicts of interest, so why should I?


Duly noted. Thank you.

Not really an answer to my question. You pointed out Mueller's conflict of interest as if it means something, then can't say why, nor do you deny that it is meaningless to you.

Why post things that are meaningless drivel to you?

[Pavlov]

I will never understand why people can't admit when they might be wrong, or admit someone makes a good point. Admitting weakness is akin to admitting defeat, which is silly, imo. Complex topics deserve a bit of give and take on several fronts.It's hilarious. They're so terrified they might be wrong, they won't commit to anything anymore. We've all fallen for some fake news or inaccurate story at some point, but after #pizzagate things might be different.

[RandomGuy]

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koriwhat Your thoughts on this?

I know you were saying how Rosenstein handled himself the other day with itegrity.

This move would make Trump look pretty suspicious, dont you think?

Yes, it would. Not sure Trump cares at this point, though. His narcissism will be his downfall, as he thinks his judgment is much better than it is.

[boutons_deux]

Yes, it would. Not sure Trump cares at this point, though. His narcissism will be his downfall, as he thinks his judgment is much better than it is.

Any personnel changes that Trash makes in DoJ now will be pilloried. Somebody important resigning will be interpreted as "being pushed out".

Trash is boxed in and "not looking good".

And it looks like Pence has also obstructed justice by lying about Flynn, and who knows what transition emails Mueller has on Flynn proving that he lied.

Anyway, the Repugs will not remove Trash or Pence from office, because they know the oligarchy will keeps the donations flowing in any case, which is all the Repugs care about.

[djohn2oo8]

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Lordy!

[boutons_deux]

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Lordy!

But FBI didn't tell Trash that he was ALREADY under investigation?

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

But FBI didn't tell Trash that he was ALREADY under investigation?

At that point, it was top secret.

[djohn2oo8]

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[boutons_deux]

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"not looking good" is understatement amplified daily

[djohn2oo8]

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Bettah call Saul.

[djohn2oo8]

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[Pavlov]

942807978767417344
Lordy!Hm. Must be what TSA was talking about.

[djohn2oo8]

Hm. Must be what TSA was talking about.

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His world falling apart today

[TSA]

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His world falling apart today

:lmao

[Pavlov]

:lmaoWhat's the latest from Q? Trump caused the Atlanta power outage?

[TSA]

942843166553763840
His world falling apart today

That bullshit excuse is as good as this one:

"In another text drawing questions from Congress, Ms. Page suggested she and Mr. Strzok were using an untraceable phone to communicate about the Clinton investigation. But Ms. Page was providing an excuse that Mr. Strzok could use with his wife if she ever raised a question about his texting habits, not referring to any actual phone, people familiar with her account said. The Washington Post first reported that explanation."

https://www.wsj.com/articles/in-fbi-agents-account-insurance-policy-text-referred-to-russia-probe-1513624580?mg=prod/accounts-wsj

[spurraider21]

What's the latest from Q? Trump caused the Atlanta power outage?
come to think of it, he did make a post that included the letter "a"

a -> atlanta

:wow

[koriwhat]

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koriwhat Your thoughts on this?

I know you were saying how Rosenstein handled himself the other day with itegrity.

This move would make Trump look pretty suspicious, dont you think?

i think the whole special council is bs to begin with. the whole russian narrative is bs but whatever. what i stated about rosenstein is that, whether he's a good guy or not, he is one hell of a lawyer and knows what to say, when to say it, and how to say it. he's good at being a lawyer that's for sure.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

He pointed out a mindset some blacks adopt specifically showing how Tupac didn't always used to be that way then he showed how in many whites adopt a similar mindset. It's really insightful and you could learn a lot from it if you were obstinately opposed to it since the words "National Review" appear in the url

It's doubling down on identity politics and you are moving the goalposts. My point was that they had shifted to white nationalism since Buckley died. You post an article as to what you think good white/black nationalism is and pass that off glibly.

Way to miss the point.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

i think the whole special council is bs to begin with. the whole russian narrative is bs but whatever. what i stated about rosenstein is that, whether he's a good guy or not, he is one hell of a lawyer and knows what to say, when to say it, and how to say it. he's good at being a lawyer that's for sure.

GOPotards taht still parrot the whole thing is BS are entertaining to me. Two senior Trump campaign members have already pled guilty and two others are indicted.

The only think that is bs is your mindless partisanship.

[koriwhat]

GOPotards taht still parrot the whole thing is BS are entertaining to me. Two senior Trump campaign members have already pled guilty and two others are indicted.

The only think that is bs is your mindless partisanship.

you're a fucking fruit cake homie. seriously? you're so upset at me because of HS and because i don't subscribe to your bs. go find a new hobby you fucking loser!

best thing to do is just stop replying to my posts. i don't give a shit about your opinion one bit. you're a bitch and that's that.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

you're a fucking fruit cake homie. seriously? you're so upset at me because of HS and because i don't subscribe to your bs. go find a new hobby you fucking loser!

best thing to do is just stop replying to my posts. i don't give a shit about your opinion one bit. you're a bitch and that's that.

:lol you sure told me. that loser comment was the sure winner!

in the meantime saying that the investigation is baseless shows you to be clueless from an objective standpoint. stupid people struggle to assimilate new information and tend to parrot their old takes regardless.

The first indictments were handed out 2 months ago. the cognitive dissonance seems to be crippling you to tourettes levels.

[Reck]

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TSA Remember when Clapper was your guy? :lol

[dabom]

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TSA (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7640) Remember when Clapper was your guy? :lol

Boom X8.

[Splits]

What's the latest from Q? Trump caused the Atlanta power outage?

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[Reck]

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Flynn actually taking a hit for this piece of shit.

[dabom]

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Why is that fucker still tweeting. :lmao

[boutons_deux]

Trump cut funding to Amtrak before deadly derailment

President Trash claims his infrastructure bill could have prevented Monday’s deadly Amtrak incident,

but his own administration sought to cut funding to the nation’s rail system earlier this yea

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/trump-cut-funding-to-amtrak-before-deadly-derailment/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29


:lol You Trash fellators are total fools, duped over and over and over.

[Pavlov]

Trump cut funding to Amtrak before deadly derailment

President Trash claims his infrastructure bill could have prevented Monday’s deadly Amtrak incident,

but his own administration sought to cut funding to the nation’s rail system earlier this yea

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/trump-cut-funding-to-amtrak-before-deadly-derailment/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29


:lol You Trash fellators are total fools, duped over and over and over.


It was the first public run on a brand new route. Just looking at it, my uneducated guess is too high a speed going into a curve.

But yeah, Antifa.

[dabom]

It was the first public run on a brand new route. Just looking at it, my uneducated guess is too high a speed going into a curve.

But yeah, Antifa.

Don't they have test runs and put assumed weight on that train so shit like this doesn't happen?

[Pavlov]

Don't they have test runs and put assumed weight on that train so shit like this doesn't happen?Many. Like I said my guess is uneducated. May as well be Antifa.

[DarrinS]

Trump cut funding to Amtrak before deadly derailment

President Trash claims his infrastructure bill could have prevented Monday’s deadly Amtrak incident,

but his own administration sought to cut funding to the nation’s rail system earlier this yea

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/trump-cut-funding-to-amtrak-before-deadly-derailment/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29


:lol You Trash fellators are total fools, duped over and over and over.





This is why it derailed, tbh.

[boutons_deux]

"The budget Trump proposed earlier this year included

drastic cuts to Amtrak, including

a $928 million cut in transit construction grants and

a $630 million cut in subsidies for long-distance Amtrak routes."

https://thinkprogress.org/minnesota-public-radio-trump-response-washington-train-derailment-557b3cd9048a/

[TSA]

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First McCabe no show and now Ohr :lol

[Pavlov]

Same with Stone's Assange go-between.:lol

[Reck]

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First McCabe no show and now Ohr :lol

But you dont have a take on Mueller being removed. :lol

[TSA]

But you dont have a take on Mueller being removed. :lol

What do McCabe and Ohr have to do with Mueller?

[DarrinS]

But you dont have a take on Mueller being removed. :lol

Mueller was removed?

[boutons_deux]

McCabe and Mr Mueller

[DarrinS]

McCabe and Mr Mueller

What?

[Pavlov]

What?https://i.imgur.com/RQZBVwF.gif

[DarrinS]

https://i.imgur.com/RQZBVwF.gif

Uh, ok

[Pavlov]

Uh, okGotta be an Altman fan, I guess.

http://www.thesnipenews.com/thegutter/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/McCabe-movie-poster.jpg

Part of the fantastic auteur period in Hollywood.

[baseline bum]

"The budget Trump proposed earlier this year included

drastic cuts to Amtrak, including

a $928 million cut in transit construction grants and

a $630 million cut in subsidies for long-distance Amtrak routes."

https://thinkprogress.org/minnesota-public-radio-trump-response-washington-train-derailment-557b3cd9048a/

Can you make a case for why Amtrak deserves any federal subsidy? My parents used them a few years ago and had nothing but horrible things to say about Amtrak. It was expensive. It was super slow since Amtrak trains have really low priority on the tracks. From their experience I think I'd even rather ride Greyhound.

[DMC]

You couldn't pay me to ride Amtrak.

[baseline bum]

You couldn't pay me to ride Amtrak.

I wouldn't even pay you to ride deez nuts

[DMC]

I wouldn't even pay you to ride deez nuts

BB's BBs. All aboard.

[koriwhat]

:lol you sure told me. that loser comment was the sure winner!

in the meantime saying that the investigation is baseless shows you to be clueless from an objective standpoint. stupid people struggle to assimilate new information and tend to parrot their old takes regardless.

The first indictments were handed out 2 months ago. the cognitive dissonance seems to be crippling you to tourettes levels.

i don't give a damn little girl. don't fucking care about your damn opinion of me nor any subject. just don't fucking care to see that you keep quoting me. it's fucking annoying. keep your shit opinions to yourself or just stop quoting me because i think you're a little girl and just trying to fuck with me. you little annoying girl.

[AaronY]

It's doubling down on identity politics and you are moving the goalposts. My point was that they had shifted to white nationalism since Buckley died. You post an article as to what you think good white/black nationalism is and pass that off glibly.

Way to miss the point.
Its not doubling down on identity politics in any way lol. The entire article is an attack on them.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Its not doubling down on identity politics in any way lol. The entire article is an attack on them.

it's saying that whites should act a certain way and that blacks should too. It is the opposite of color blind.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

i don't give a damn little girl. don't fucking care about your damn opinion of me nor any subject. just don't fucking care to see that you keep quoting me. it's fucking annoying. keep your shit opinions to yourself or just stop quoting me because i think you're a little girl and just trying to fuck with me. you little annoying girl.

:lol People that don't care don't rant and repeat themselves like an idiot as you do.

[AaronY]

it's saying that whites should act a certain way and that blacks should too. It is the opposite of color blind.
Saying people should use proper grammar and aspire to act intelligently is racist now lol

[AaronY]

Maybe I should become enlightened about this. Perhaps I've been living in a grammar normative safespace where my pro-grammar mindset has been reinforcing white nationalist suppressive attitudes towards marginalized peoples who struggle with advanced concepts such as the proper use of adverbs and contractions.

[boutons_deux]

"The Amtrak Cascades 501 service was approved to reach speeds of up to 79 mph (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-washington-train/amtrak-train-derails-on-highway-bridge-in-washington-state-several-killed-idUSKBN1EC239), but investigators late Monday said that that the train (https://apnews.com/e239f41fefb64874a413e4cf42f744c0/The-Latest:-NTSB:-Derailed-train-going-80-mph-in-30-mph-zone?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP) was traveling 80 mph in a 30 mph zone at the time of the incident"

Positive train control is a system meant to automatically stop trains before certain accidents happen, like train-to-train collisions and derailments caused by excessive speed. After a 2008 crash in California, a new law required trains across the country to install the technology (http://thehill.com/policy/transportation/257566-agreement-reached-on-automated-train-extension) by the end of 2015, the Hill reported.

But as the deadline approached, Congress extended it until the end of 2018, after receiving complaints from freight and commuter railroad companies about the difficulty of converting to the new system.


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/washington-train-derailment_us_5a382ef7e4b0860bf4aa631b?utm_medium= email&utm_campaign=__TheMorningEmail__121917&utm_content=__TheMorningEmail__121917+CID_6ae789ed f58f16737cec0a7bb6b8d7e2&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=delayed%20a%20key%20safeguard&ncid=newsltushpmgnews__TheMorningEmail__121917

driver was probably "distracted" by smartphone

PTC isn't "cost effective" (dead people are "free") or even useful in most accidents.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_train_control#Controversy

[boutons_deux]

Can you make a case for why Amtrak deserves any federal subsidy? My parents used them a few years ago and had nothing but horrible things to say about Amtrak. It was expensive. It was super slow since Amtrak trains have really low priority on the tracks. From their experience I think I'd even rather ride Greyhound.

your anecdote is useless

The oligarchy (BigOil, BigAuto, BigAirline) have blocked America from developing rail and then from maintaining rail, so of course that the (passenger) rail system sucks, except for maybe the part the oligarchy uses, Acela Express between DC and Boston.

Continental Europe proves that (electrified) rail can be fucking excellent, a civilized pleasure to use, and plays a huge role in people moving.

[AaronY]

Wow, boutons thinks its the Republicans and big business's fault this time

[boutons_deux]

Obama’s national intelligence chief just labeled Trump a “Russian asset”

James Clapper, former Director of National Intelligence under President Barack Obama.

He just announced on CNN’s “The Lead” that the current President of the United States,

Donald J. Trump, is a “Russian asset,”

a tool of Russian President Vladimir Putin,

to be “handled” in ways that advance Russian national interests and weaken America.

http://washingtonpress.com/2017/12/18/obamas-national-intelligence-chief-just-labeled-trump-russian-asset-2/

Will there be any Fox/Repug fabricated outrage at Clapper?

[boutons_deux]

shutting down investigation of Repugs, while going after Dems

Senate Intel Panel Looking At Jill Stein Campaign In Russia Probe

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/senate-intelligence-committee-jill-stein-russia-probe?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20tpm-news%20%28TPMNews%29

[AaronY]

shutting down investigation of Repugs, while going after Dems

Senate Intel Panel Looking At Jill Stein Campaign In Russia Probe

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/senate-intelligence-committee-jill-stein-russia-probe?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20tpm-news%20%28TPMNews%29



Jill Stein is not a democrat. My dog knows this probably

[boutons_deux]

Trump team’s meeting with Mueller’s office poised to ratchet up tensions

People with knowledge of the investigation said

it could last at least another year —

pointing to ongoing cooperation from witnesses such as former Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos and former national security adviser Michael Flynn,

as well as a possible trial of two former Trump campaign officials.

The special counsel’s office has continued to request new documents related to the campaign, and

members of Mueller’s team have told others they expect to be working through much of 2018, at a minimum.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-teams-meeting-with-muellers-office-poised-to-ratchet-up-tensions/2017/12/18/15dac668-e41d-11e7-a65d-1ac0fd7f097e_story.html?utm_term=.83cf3874a542

[djohn2oo8]

Jill Stein's time in the barrel and it will soon be Bernie's as well.

[spurraider21]

Wow, boutons thinks its the Republicans and big business's fault this time
:lol

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Saying people should use proper grammar and aspire to act intelligently is racist now lol

The gist of the article is that white people acting like duck dynasty is akin to black people acting like NWA. That current white culture is no better but we should instead be better than that.

It is aspiring to racial superiority and remains identity politics. Are you really obtuse to the idea that minorities being poorly spoken and less intelligent has been a meme of white supremacists for centuries?

[koriwhat]

:lol People that don't care don't rant and repeat themselves like an idiot as you do.

Blah blah blah little girl

[koriwhat]

Obama’s national intelligence chief just labeled Trump a “Russian asset”

James Clapper, former Director of National Intelligence under President Barack Obama.

He just announced on CNN’s “The Lead” that the current President of the United States,

Donald J. Trump, is a “Russian asset,”

a tool of Russian President Vladimir Putin,

to be “handled” in ways that advance Russian national interests and weaken America.

http://washingtonpress.com/2017/12/18/obamas-national-intelligence-chief-just-labeled-trump-russian-asset-2/

Will there be any Fox/Repug fabricated outrage at Clapper?




The same james clapper who had no oroblem lying on the hill? That clapper or the one that illegally wiretapped citizens and pres elect?

[boutons_deux]

Amazing CIA bombshell that proves Trump is either compromised or delusional (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/12/16/1725146/-Amazing-CIA-bombshell-that-proves-Trump-is-either-compromised-or-delusional)


The officials were escorted into a spacious conference room on the 14th floor of Trump Tower.

Trump took a seat at one end of a large table, with Vice President-elect Mike Pence at the other.

Among the others present were Priebus, Pompeo and designated national security adviser Michael Flynn.

Following a rehearsed plan, Clapper functioned as moderator, yielding to Brennan and others on key points in the briefing, which covered the most highly classified information U.S. spy agencies had assembled,



including an extraordinary CIA stream of intelligence that had captured Putin’s specific instructions on the operation.

Trump was briefed on the collection of the actual instructions.

Not just the “strong belief” or the

“bulk of the evidence” or

other intelligence hedging but the actualinstructions.

That means every time since January 6th that Trump has expressed doubt about Russian interference in the election he has been outright lying.

And he knows it.

When Trump met with Putin during his Asia tour he said:


"He said he didn't meddle.

He said he didn't meddle.

I asked him again.

You can only ask so many times,"

Trump told reporters aboard Air Force One as he flew from Da Nang to Hanoi in Vietnam.


The only explanations for this statement are that

he is so compromised with Russia that he is willing to outright lie for Putin because he is bought and paid for or

he is completely disconnected from any sense of reality.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/12/16/1725146/-Amazing-CIA-bombshell-that-proves-Trump-is-either-compromised-or-delusional

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/world/national-security/donald-trump-pursues-vladimir-putin-russian-election-hacking/?utm_term=.8de003fefa30&wpisrc=nl_popup&wpmm=1

[boutons_deux]

Why is the CIA allowing such open leaking about what Trump administration knew and when it knew it? (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/12/17/1725232/-Why-is-the-CIA-talking-so-openly-about-what-the-Trump-administration-knew-and-when-it-knew-it)


[W]hich covered the most highly classified information U.S. spy agencies had assembled, including an extraordinary CIA stream of intelligence that had captured Putin’s specific instructions on the operation.


The fact that this information is being made public is extraordinary.

This is usually the kind of thing — that we have access to actual channels of instruction — that usually comes out 50 years after the fact.

Mostly this kind of thing is not discussed because more valuable than the actual data is the protection of “means and method”.

As I see it there are only two reasons that the CIA would reveal this information:



The channel(s) through which it was collected has been completely closed
They want the Congress and the American people to know what Trump knew and how he responded


Why now?

My guess would be they recognize the moves Trump is making against the Mueller investigation.

Under the cover of the holidays, the tax plan, the Roy Moore campaign there has been a steady push to close the Congressional investigations and undermine the credibility of the Mueller investigation.

My guess is that they are trying to give Congress and American people enough firm ground to stand on when demanding the investigation is valid and continue.

Since January 6th both Trump and Pence have known —

without a shadow of a doubt —

that Russian and Putin personally attacked our election and every action since then has been conducted with that knowledge.

If Trump fires Mueller in a Christmas Day massacre scenario I think the CIA wants to be on record as to what that really means.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/12/17/1725232/-Why-is-the-CIA-talking-so-openly-about-what-the-Trump-administration-knew-and-when-it-knew-it?detail=emaildkre

But how will Trash and his mafiya, including Sessions and Pence, be removed from office?

[RandomGuy]

Obama’s national intelligence chief just labeled Trump a “Russian asset”

James Clapper, former Director of National Intelligence under President Barack Obama.

He just announced on CNN’s “The Lead” that the current President of the United States,

Donald J. Trump, is a “Russian asset,”

a tool of Russian President Vladimir Putin,

to be “handled” in ways that advance Russian national interests and weaken America.

http://washingtonpress.com/2017/12/18/obamas-national-intelligence-chief-just-labeled-trump-russian-asset-2/

Will there be any Fox/Repug fabricated outrage at Clapper?




I'm sure there will be.

[RandomGuy]

Why is the CIA allowing such open leaking about what Trump administration knew and when it knew it? (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/12/17/1725232/-Why-is-the-CIA-talking-so-openly-about-what-the-Trump-administration-knew-and-when-it-knew-it)


[W]hich covered the most highly classified information U.S. spy agencies had assembled, including an extraordinary CIA stream of intelligence that had captured Putin’s specific instructions on the operation.


The fact that this information is being made public is extraordinary.

This is usually the kind of thing — that we have access to actual channels of instruction — that usually comes out 50 years after the fact.

Mostly this kind of thing is not discussed because more valuable than the actual data is the protection of “means and method”.

As I see it there are only two reasons that the CIA would reveal this information:



The channel(s) through which it was collected has been completely closed
They want the Congress and the American people to know what Trump knew and how he responded


Why now?

My guess would be they recognize the moves Trump is making against the Mueller investigation.

Under the cover of the holidays, the tax plan, the Roy Moore campaign there has been a steady push to close the Congressional investigations and undermine the credibility of the Mueller investigation.

My guess is that they are trying to give Congress and American people enough firm ground to stand on when demanding the investigation is valid and continue.

Since January 6th both Trump and Pence have known —

without a shadow of a doubt —

that Russian and Putin personally attacked our election and every action since then has been conducted with that knowledge.

If Trump fires Mueller in a Christmas Day massacre scenario I think the CIA wants to be on record as to what that really means.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/12/17/1725232/-Why-is-the-CIA-talking-so-openly-about-what-the-Trump-administration-knew-and-when-it-knew-it?detail=emaildkre

But how will Trash and his mafiya, including Sessions and Pence, be removed from office?



Fits in with what I have stated previously: our intelligence agencies have to consider the possibility that the President has been fully compromised. Trump is not indispensable, and the job of protecting our country will carry on after he is out of office.

I think the intel community has Mueller's back, and that is something that cannot be underestimated.

[AaronY]

The same james clapper who had no oroblem lying on the hill? That clapper or the one that illegally wiretapped citizens and pres elect?
Help me out bro..if you actually were a Republican how would I be able to tell the difference?

[Pavlov]

942889320435855361This tweet aged well.

Antifa engineer tho.

[koriwhat]

Help me out bro..if you actually were a Republican how would I be able to tell the difference?

so wanting law, order, integrity, and honor is a republican thing only? yeah, i gathered it definitely wasn't a liberal thing many moons ago.

[TSA]

943193356095639552

[Pavlov]

943193356095639552So did you just get the date wrong or something?

I mean, it was totes sinister to you a few days ago.

[TSA]

So did you just get the date wrong or something?

I mean, it was totes sinister to you a few days ago.

He bailed on the first scheduled meeting dipshit. Try and keep up.

[Pavlov]

He bailed on the first scheduled meeting dipshit. Try and keep up.And that was totes sinister?

Is he going to prison?

What did Q say about him?

[TSA]

FBI, DOJ will be subpoenaed over Clinton, Trump investigations

The House Judiciary Committee will issue subpoenas for testimony from key figures at the FBI and the Department of Justice (DOJ) that were involved with the investigation into Hillary Clinton's email server and other election-year controversies, Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) said Tuesday.

Speaking on Fox Business Network, Jordan, a member of the Judiciary Committee, said Chairman Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) was readying subpoenas for four individuals at the agencies that Republicans have accused of bias against President Trump: FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, DOJ official Bruce Ohr and FBI agents Peter Strzok and Lisa Page.

"The chairman of the Judiciary Committee is going to subpoena Lisa Page," Jordan said. "He's going to subpoena Bruce Ohr and he's going to subpoena Peter Strzok and we're also going to get eventually to Andrew McCabe, as well. We need those people to come in, to be deposed and to put those people on the same stand that [Attorney General Jeff] Sessions and [Deputy Attorney General Rod] Rosenstein sat on in the past few weeks."

Strzok was once on special counsel Robert Mueller's team but was reassigned to the human resources department after it was revealed that he exchanged pro-Clinton/anti-Trump text messages with Page, a fellow FBI agent with whom he was having an affair. Page was also at one point on the special counsel investigation.

Strzok also interviewed several of Clinton's senior aides as part of the investigation into the former secretary of State's handling of classified material and was reportedly responsible for softening the language the FBI used to describe Clinton's private server arrangement.

Ohr has attracted GOP scrutiny for the revelation that he met with and had close ties to the opposition research firm and former British spy behind a controversial anti-Trump dossier. Ohr met with Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson and former British intelligence agent Christopher Steele during the campaign, and his wife worked for Fusion GPS.

Jordan said that eventually the committee would look to compel testimony from McCabe, who will meet privately with House Intelligence Committee members this week.

McCabe appears to be referenced in one of Strzok's texts to Page, in which Strzok alludes to an "insurance policy" in case Trump is elected president.

"We've asked fundamental questions of attorney general Sessions, of FBI Director [Christopher] Wray, and deputy director at the Justice Department Rod Rosenstein and they will not answer our questions, so now it's time for subpoenas," Jordan said.


http://thehill.com/homenews/house/365632-gop-rep-fbi-doj-will-be-subpoenaed-over-clinton-trump-investigations?amp&__twitter_impression=true

[boutons_deux]

Outnumbered Guest Stuns Hosts After Suggesting FBI Deputy Director Plotted to Assassinate Trump

During today’s broadcast of Fox News’ Outnumbered, #OneLuckyGuy Kevin Jackson was asked about reports that Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassleywants Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe fired (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-19/grassley-wants-fbi-director-wray-to-replace-mccabe-as-deputy).

McCabe was referenced in a text sent by Strzok, which led Jackson down a rabbit hole:

“I think they will say, what was his intent, right?

That is exactly what former FBI Director James Comey said when he was letting Hillary Clinton off the hook.

And his intent, whether it was an assassination attempt or whether, definitely something — I am just saying, we do not know what it was.

When you say, ‘we gotta make sure this guy doesn’t get in at all costs’ — what does that mean?

I am saying, there is a spectrum of what does it mean,

but one thing we know for sure, is that

he was plotting in an election against a candidate, and

there is FBI fingerprints all over this.”


https://www.mediaite.com/tv/outnumbered-guest-stuns-hosts-after-suggesting-fbi-deputy-director-plotted-to-assassinate-trump/

Fox watchers, a lot of them fringe, emotionally unstable, loser, gun-fellatin assholes, gonna start shootin up more and more places, esp if Trash and his mafiya go down.

[boutons_deux]

Pootin supporting Stein to split the non-Repug vote just another way for Pootin to hurt Hillary, which Stein did in WI, MI, PA

Jill Stein’s extremely Russia-friendly campaign

Trump wasn't the only one promoting pro-Kremlin talking points last year.

Stein received a wealth of support from the Kremlin propaganda channel RT. Not only was her campaign, as NBC noted (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/guess-who-came-dinner-flynn-putin-n742696), “heavily promoted by RT,”

but she opted to participate in the 2016 Green Party presidential debate, broadcast on RT (https://www.rt.com/usa/342395-green-party-rt-debate/).

Where other Green Party candidates boycotted the debate (https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/8x5pw3/jill-stein-profile) because it was hosted on a Russian propaganda channel – one candidate described it as the “worst kind of representation of what the Green Party should be” –

Stein instead lauded the hosts, describing the debate on RT as a “step towards real democracy and an inspiration for … millions of Americans.”

Stein’s most prominent moment during the presidential campaign came via RT ... Stein memorably joined Michael Flynn – who recently pled guilty (https://thinkprogress.org/michael-flynn-charged-fbi-bc815c614f54/) for lying about his interactions with Russian officials – and

Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow at a gala celebrating the ten-year anniversary of RT (https://conference.rt.com/#speakers). Stein later described the attendant RT conference as “inspiring (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3Qhx2ON8RE).”

Stein also shared the conference billing with Julian Assange – whom Stein in 2016 hailed as a “hero in my book (http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/technology/292305-exclusive-jill-stein-op-ed-in-praise-of-wikileaks),” and who, remarkably, even made a speaking appearance at the Green Party’s convention.

It remains unclear if Stein met Putin during her time in Moscow. On her website, Stein says she “met Russian President Vladimir Putin (https://www.jill2016.com/photo_gallery_jill_in_paris_and_moscow),” while she recently told Vice that she “didn’t meet” Putin (https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/8x5pw3/jill-stein-profile).

But Stein’s willingness to praise Russian propaganda outlets and push Kremlin talking points didn’t end in Moscow. Indeed, she challenged – and arguably surpassed – Trump in crafting the most Moscow-friendly campaign of 2016.

Stein made the strange claim multiple times (https://www.vox.com/2016/9/14/12913174/jill-stein-green-party) that NATO had “surrounded” Russia with nuclear weapons.

NATO is only fighting “enemies we invent to give the weapons industry a reason to sell more stuff.”

Stein selected a vice presidential candidate who brought his own Russia-friendly conspiracy theories along.

According to Ajamu Baraka (https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-wild-beliefs-of-ajamu-baraka-jill-steins-green-party-running-mate), the destruction of Flight MH17 over eastern Ukraine didn’t come from Russia-backed separatists, as all evidence indicates. Rather, it was a “major false flag operation” designed “to be blamed on the Russians. And that’s exactly what has happened.”

While Stein and her campaign were pushing this kind of analysis, fake Russian Facebook accounts (https://thinkprogress.org/russia-facebook-clinton-campaign-d6d76b2a2e82/) were likewise propping her campaign

she revealed earlier this month,

she’s still not convinced Moscow actually attempted to meddle in the election.

As she told Vice (https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/8x5pw3/jill-stein-profile), Stein still hasn’t seen anything to convince her “it was Russians” who attempted to interfere during the campaign.

https://thinkprogress.org/jill-stein-campaign-russia-ecf424ac3b7e/

So Pootin has compromised Stein, too.

[Chris]

Looks like the Obama/Hezbollah thing could go nuclear


Now, it appears in order to secure his deeply flawed Iran Deal, President Obama and his administration shielded the Iran-backed terror group Hezbollah from a major US multi-agency investigation targeting Hezbollah’s global criminal operation which included drug dealing, money laundering and arms running.

These revelations are shocking and infuriating.

While American soldiers were bravely fighting ISIS terrorists, with some paying the ultimate price, the Obama administration reportedly was protecting Hezbollah terrorists who were funding themselves by trafficking illegal drugs. No wonder President Obama couldn’t bring himself to call them “Radical Islamist Terrorists.”

This is the same administration that sent $1.7 billion in cash ransom to Iran.

The growing nexus between terrorist organizations and Latin American drug cartels poses a grave threat to our national security, especially considering the porous state of our southern border. Last month, I hosted a forum in Buenos Aires for 220 Members of Parliament and government officials from 15 South American countries with government and private sector experts to address the critical challenge of intercepting drug related funding of terrorism.

[Chris]

Doubt anything will happen to the real 'Teflon Don' HRC



New FEC Complaint Accuses Clinton, DNC of 'Corrupt' Scheme to Launder Money Back to Her Campaign


A new legal complaint filed with the Federal Election Commission (FEC) accuses 2016 presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s campaign and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) of using state party chapters to bypass campaign donation limits and launder money back to the nominee.

The complaint was filed Monday by the Committee to Defend the President (CDP), alleging the Hillary Victory Fund sought cash from big-name donors like fashion icon Calvin Klein and “Family Guy” creator Seth MacFarlane, Fox News reported.

Sizable donations were allegedly funneled through state parties, then to the DNC, before ultimately ending up with the Clinton campaign, according to the complaint, which read, in part:

Based on publicly available FEC records, repeatedly throughout the 2016 presidential campaign, HVF would purportedly transfer funds to its constituent political committees, which included between 34 and 40 state parties. On the very same day each of these transfers supposedly occurred, or occasionally the very next day, every single one of those state parties purportedly contributed all of those funds to the DNC. ...

It appears virtually every single disbursement from HVF to a state party resulted in an immediate transfer of the same amount of funds from the state party to the DNC. Over 99% of funds transferred through HVF to state parties wound up at the DNC.

“What we have found, people need to see,” Ted Harvey, chair of the CDP, told Fox News. “I think it’s important that the American public has an understanding of how corrupt this campaign system was and that they were doing anything they could to secure the nomination in her favor.”

In total, the CDP believes roughly $84 million was funneled illegally from the DNC, through state party chapters and back to Clinton’s campaign coffers. The alleged scheme had to be established because, according to FEC rules, an individual cannot donate more than $2,700 to a campaign.

CDP counsel Dan Backer said the alleged scheme is a blatant violation of the law.

“It’s not entirely clear if they transferred the money to the state parties to begin with, and if they never had control of the money, it’s not a contribution. It’s an earmark,” he explained. “If the money is in control of the candidate, then it is a contribution to them.”

https://ijr.com/the-declaration/2017/12/1037116-new-fec-complaint-accuses-clinton-dnc-corrupt-scheme-launder-money-back-campaign/

[Reck]

FBI, DOJ will be subpoenaed over Clinton, Trump investigations

The House Judiciary Committee will issue subpoenas for testimony from key figures at the FBI and the Department of Justice (DOJ) that were involved with the investigation into Hillary Clinton's email server and other election-year controversies, Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) said Tuesday.

Speaking on Fox Business Network, Jordan, a member of the Judiciary Committee, said Chairman Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) was readying subpoenas for four individuals at the agencies that Republicans have accused of bias against President Trump: FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, DOJ official Bruce Ohr and FBI agents Peter Strzok and Lisa Page.

"The chairman of the Judiciary Committee is going to subpoena Lisa Page," Jordan said. "He's going to subpoena Bruce Ohr and he's going to subpoena Peter Strzok and we're also going to get eventually to Andrew McCabe, as well. We need those people to come in, to be deposed and to put those people on the same stand that [Attorney General Jeff] Sessions and [Deputy Attorney General Rod] Rosenstein sat on in the past few weeks."

Strzok was once on special counsel Robert Mueller's team but was reassigned to the human resources department after it was revealed that he exchanged pro-Clinton/anti-Trump text messages with Page, a fellow FBI agent with whom he was having an affair. Page was also at one point on the special counsel investigation.

Strzok also interviewed several of Clinton's senior aides as part of the investigation into the former secretary of State's handling of classified material and was reportedly responsible for softening the language the FBI used to describe Clinton's private server arrangement.

Ohr has attracted GOP scrutiny for the revelation that he met with and had close ties to the opposition research firm and former British spy behind a controversial anti-Trump dossier. Ohr met with Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson and former British intelligence agent Christopher Steele during the campaign, and his wife worked for Fusion GPS.

Jordan said that eventually the committee would look to compel testimony from McCabe, who will meet privately with House Intelligence Committee members this week.

McCabe appears to be referenced in one of Strzok's texts to Page, in which Strzok alludes to an "insurance policy" in case Trump is elected president.

"We've asked fundamental questions of attorney general Sessions, of FBI Director [Christopher] Wray, and deputy director at the Justice Department Rod Rosenstein and they will not answer our questions, so now it's time for subpoenas," Jordan said.


http://thehill.com/homenews/house/365632-gop-rep-fbi-doj-will-be-subpoenaed-over-clinton-trump-investigations?amp&__twitter_impression=true

The house side seems to be awfully worried about the Mueller investigation. Specifically Nunes and this Jordan guy.

I wonder if they're not dirty themselves and are worried about those emails he got.

[DarrinS]

The house side seems to be awfully worried about the Mueller investigation. Specifically Nunes and this Jordan guy.

I wonder if they're not dirty themselves and are worried about those emails he got.


Everyone is on pins and needles, Reck. :cry

[Reck]

Everyone is on pins and needles, Reck. :cry

The house and senate "investigations" are a distraction. I wouldn't care if both of them get shut down toinght.

The one that counts is the one Trump fears the most.

[DMC]

The house and senate "investigations" are a distraction. I wouldn't care if both of them get shut down toinght.

The one that counts is the one Trump fears the most.

Trump could fire Mueller and start it all over again.

If he was worried that's what he would do.

[DarrinS]

The house and senate "investigations" are a distraction. I wouldn't care if both of them get shut down toinght.

The one that counts is the one Trump fears the most.


Are you even slightly curious about the “insurance policy”?

[DMC]

The gist of the article is that white people acting like duck dynasty is akin to black people acting like NWA. That current white culture is no better but we should instead be better than that.

It is aspiring to racial superiority and remains identity politics. Are you really obtuse to the idea that minorities being poorly spoken and less intelligent has been a meme of white supremacists for centuries?

Have you never seen a Tyler Perry movie?

You think this is a meme?

I can tell you were raised in upper middle class white household with only references to other races and possibly some charity events where you wore an apron and ladled some gravy to a few minorities.

[Reck]

Are you even slightly curious about the “insurance policy”?

No. None at all.

You're talking about texts that are all out of context. And texts that took place back in March of 2016. Way before Mueller was in the picture.

Unless DOJ releases the texts in full context and intent to harm is shown, there's nothing to see.

[spurraider21]

Are you even slightly curious about the “insurance policy”?
why dont they just release the full conversation instead of the juicy "insurance policy" bit? they're taking a page from project veritas with the nothingburger quote

[TSA]

why dont they just release the full conversation instead of the juicy "insurance policy" bit? they're taking a page from project veritas with the nothingburger quote

:cry why doesn’t the OIG just release all 1.2 million documents they’ve gathered during their year long investigation into the politicization of the FBI/DOJ :cry

[TSA]

From the top of the FBI to HR over a nothingburger text message :rollin

[spurraider21]

:cry why doesn’t the OIG just release all 1.2 million documents they’ve gathered during their year long investigation into the politicization of the FBI/DOJ :cry
or if you're going to spotlight one text, maybe the conversation immediately before and after that one message...

[spurraider21]

From the top of the FBI to HR over a nothingburger text message :rollin
i didnt call the text a nothingburger. pointing out the lack of context behind it, much like the van jones nothingburger soundbite

[Reck]

:cry why doesn’t the OIG just release all 1.2 million documents they’ve gathered during their year long investigation into the politicization of the FBI/DOJ :cry

Is the crying emoticon for yourself?

You do realize that even with this hack job special, nothing came of these texts, right?

Releasing the full chain of messages is only going to provide a more clear picture of what was said and how it was meant.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Have you never seen a Tyler Perry movie?

You think this is a meme?

I can tell you were raised in upper middle class white household with only references to other races and possibly some charity events where you wore an apron and ladled some gravy to a few minorities.

Story time with, TPark! How droll.

While I am not surprised that you would fixate on gravy, fattie, you suck at guessing my life. I do find it amusing that you would try and lecture me about race considering our past conversations. I remember you trying to sell that there was a genetic link to race and then giving up once haplogroups came up.

I grew up in San Antonio mostly. It's a hugely multicultural city. Thanks for playing though.

[DMC]

Story time with, TPark! How droll.

While I am not surprised that you would fixate on gravy, fattie, you suck at guessing my life. I do find it amusing that you would try and lecture me about race considering our past conversations. I remember you trying to sell that there was a genetic link to race and then giving up once haplogroups came up.

I grew up in San Antonio mostly. It's a hugely multicultural city. Thanks for playing though.

No, I said there's a warrior gene then provided you with the evidence.

I'd bet you grew up in a suburb of San Antonio and were shuttled into town under the watchful eye of older siblings and parents, in an SUV, until you got 30 or so and maybe left home, if you ever did that.

[Pavlov]

No, I said there's a warrior gene then provided you with the evidence.

I'd bet you grew up in a suburb of San Antonio and were shuttled into town under the watchful eye of older siblings and parents, in an SUV, until you got 30 or so and maybe left home, if you ever did that.Look at you making up a narrative.

lol

[FuzzyLumpkins]

No, I said there's a warrior gene then provided you with the evidence.

I'd bet you grew up in a suburb of San Antonio and were shuttled into town under the watchful eye of older siblings and parents, in an SUV, until you got 30 or so and maybe left home, if you ever did that.

You said that was the genetic link to race. It crossed race and skin color was not linked to the gene in question. Then you posted the study where it showed whitey to be homogeneous. I then pointed out that it was a result of line breeding and minorities were heterogeneous and further that when you look at people of the same skin color in different haplogroups the were all heterogeneous.

It was then that you ran away.

And wrong again. Keep trying though. You reveal more about yourself in this than about me. It is easy to see your bias and worldview through the lens of TPark story time.

BTW, you are not just fat, you are orca fat. I bet you have to pay for sex for any girl under 190 lbs.

[DarrinS]

No. None at all.

You're talking about texts that are all out of context. And texts that took place back in March of 2016. Way before Mueller was in the picture.

Unless DOJ releases the texts in full context and intent to harm is shown, there's nothing to see.


That’s what I thought.

[DarrinS]

Is the crying emoticon for yourself?

You do realize that even with this hack job special, nothing came of these texts, right?

Releasing the full chain of messages is only going to provide a more clear picture of what was said and how it was meant.


Other than a very high ranking FBI agent being demoted to HR. :lol

[DMC]

You said that was the genetic link to race. It crossed race and skin color was not linked to the gene in question. Then you posted the study where it showed whitey to be homogeneous. I then pointed out that it was a result of line breeding and minorities were heterogeneous and further that when you look at people of the same skin color in different haplogroups the were all heterogeneous.

It was then that you ran away.

And wrong again. Keep trying though. You reveal more about yourself in this than about me. It is easy to see your bias and worldview through the lens of TPark story time.

BTW, you are not just fat, you are orca fat. I bet you have to pay for sex for any girl under 190 lbs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monoamine_oxidase_A

I'll offer you the same bet I offered FKLA. If you feel confident in your theory about me being fat, you put up a number and I'll wager that I am under it. You're independently wealthy and sure of yourself so this shouldn't be an issue for you. We can agree on a mediator to verify. That keeps us both "anonymous".

Yes or no?

Of course..

[DMC]

Psychiatr Q. 2014 Sep;85(3):257-65. doi: 10.1007/s11126-013-9287-x.
The 2-repeat allele of the MAOA gene confers an increased risk for shooting and stabbing behaviors.
Beaver KM1, Barnes JC, Boutwell BB.
Author information
Abstract
There has been a great deal of research examining the link between a polymorphism in the promoter region of the MAOA gene and antisocial phenotypes. The results of these studies have consistently revealed that low activity MAOA alleles are related to antisocial behaviors for males who were maltreated as children. Recently, though, some evidence has emerged indicating that a rare allele of the MAOA gene-that is, the 2-repeat allele-may have effects on violence that are independent of the environment. The current study builds on this research and examines the association between the 2-repeat allele and shooting and stabbing behaviors in a sample of males drawn from the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health. Analyses revealed that African-American males who carry the 2-repeat allele are significantly more likely than all other genotypes to engage in shooting and stabbing behaviors and to report having multiple shooting and stabbing victims. The limitations of the study are discussed and suggestions for future research are offered.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24326626

[FuzzyLumpkins]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monoamine_oxidase_A

I'll offer you the same bet I offered FKLA. If you feel confident in your theory about me being fat, you put up a number and I'll wager that I am under it. You're independently wealthy and sure of yourself so this shouldn't be an issue for you. We can agree on a mediator to verify. That keeps us both "anonymous".

Yes or no?

Of course..

So you're 5'5"? and then of course there is the whole thing of you being unreliable.

Way to ignore my actual arguments, fattie. That wiki gives no link of the gene to race.

[TSA]

Is the crying emoticon for yourself?

You do realize that even with this hack job special, nothing came of these texts, right?

Releasing the full chain of messages is only going to provide a more clear picture of what was said and how it was meant.

Nothing came of these texts...except one of the FBI's top counterintelligence agents being removed from the special counsel team and placed in human resources :rollin

[TSA]

Other than a very high ranking FBI agent being demoted to HR. :lol

I should have read the rest of the thread before responding :lol

[TSA]

The more information that comes out from the OIG investigation into the politicization of the FBI/DOJ the more I am convinced that Mueller purposely assembled a team of Hillary supporters knowing the OIG would be investigating them while they investigated muh Russia. Remember that Trump met with Mueller privately the day before Mueller was named special counsel.

[boutons_deux]

The more information that comes out from the OIG investigation into the politicization of the FBI/DOJ the more I am convinced that Mueller purposely assembled a team of Hillary supporters knowing the OIG would be investigating them while they investigated muh Russia. Remember that Trump met with Mueller privately the day before Mueller was named special counsel.

oiw, FACTS don't matter, evidence-based facts, won't matter to you, since it's your ox getting gored.

You're not alone. 10Ms of people believe what Fox/Breitbat/AJones tells them. You're right there with them.

[TSA]

943552240308113408

[Pavlov]

Obviously the Democrat senator will call for the investigation to be shut down.

HE'S ON Q'S LIST

[boutons_deux]

Ex-CIA head: It’s ‘scary’ that Don Jr. is peddling FBI conspiracies — and shows the probe isn’t ‘going to a happy place’

Former head of the CIA, Retired Gen. Michael Hayden, on Wednesday told CNN’s Don Lemon that

Donald Trump Jr.’s stoking of an anti-Trump FBI conspiracy is “scary,”

arguing it’s “an appeal to the heart of autocracy.”

“I have to confess when I first heard that this evening it is scary, that is an appeal to the heart of autocracy and challenging the patriotism for the folks who work in the United States government,”

We’re now seeing a constant attack,

not just from the president but, as was suggested just a few minutes ago, from other members of the party,

attacking institutions of the american government.

It’s those institutions, the rule of law, the processes that keep us a free people.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/ex-cia-head-its-scary-that-don-jr-is-peddling-fbi-conspiracies-and-shows-the-probe-isnt-going-to-a-happy-place/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[boutons_deux]

Maxine Waters Connects the Dots on Trump, Deutsche Bank, and Russia

Mueller’s bank subpoenas could shed light on Trump associates’ ties to Russian money-laundering.

Representative Maxine Waters, the California Democrat who is the ranking member on the House Committee on Financial Services, has been pushing since March to connect dots that could link Donald Trump, his associates, Germany’s Deutsche Bank, and Russian oligarchs.

Now it appears she’s getting some help from Robert Mueller, the Russiagate special counsel, whose office has issued a subpoena to Deutsche Bank over accounts linked to various associates of the president.

The twin efforts could determine whether or not various members of Trump’s inner circle benefited from

the flow of money-laundered funds from Russian oligarchs, through Germany and Cyprus, to Trump-linked businesses and people in Trump’s inner circle, including Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law.

To understand why this might be important, consider two facts:

First, Deutsche Bank was caught red-handed in a money-laundering scheme (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/30/business/dealbook/deutsche-bank-fined-for-helping-russians-launder-10-billion.html?_r=0) that involved $10 billion in dirty money from Russian oligarchs, and in 2017 it was forced to pay fines totaling $671 million (http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/15/politics/justice-department-investigation-russian-laundering-deutsche-bank/index.html) to New York’s Department of Financial Services, Britain’s Financial Conduct Authority, and the US Federal Reserve.

Second, since the 1990s the German financial colossus has been Donald Trump’s personal go-to piggybank, which has supplied Trump and his companies with a staggering $3.5 billion (https://www.wsj.com/articles/when-donald-trump-needs-a-loan-he-chooses-deutsche-bank-1458379806) in loans and loan-guarantee agreements since 1998.

For Waters, and perhaps for Mueller, too, the question is: Are these two things related?

If so, does President Trump have a hidden obligation to Russia or to Russian oligarchs?

And why did the official US investigation of Deutsche Bank’s illegal transactions,

conducted under the auspices of Jeff Sessions’s Justice Department,

go “dormant” (http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/15/politics/justice-department-investigation-russian-laundering-deutsche-bank/index.html) earlier this year?

https://www.thenation.com/article/maxine-waters-connects-the-dots-on-trump-deutsche-bank-and-russia/

[TSA]

The Unraveling

943350106153156610

[spurraider21]

:lol soros

[TSA]

Ex-CIA head: It’s ‘scary’ that Don Jr. is peddling FBI conspiracies — and shows the probe isn’t ‘going to a happy place’

Former head of the CIA, Retired Gen. Michael Hayden, on Wednesday told CNN’s Don Lemon that

Donald Trump Jr.’s stoking of an anti-Trump FBI conspiracy is “scary,”

arguing it’s “an appeal to the heart of autocracy.”

“I have to confess when I first heard that this evening it is scary, that is an appeal to the heart of autocracy and challenging the patriotism for the folks who work in the United States government,”

We’re now seeing a constant attack,

not just from the president but, as was suggested just a few minutes ago, from other members of the party,

attacking institutions of the american government.

It’s those institutions, the rule of law, the processes that keep us a free people.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/ex-cia-head-its-scary-that-don-jr-is-peddling-fbi-conspiracies-and-shows-the-probe-isnt-going-to-a-happy-place/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29




1Q3xzXKh9mw
Former FBI Assistant Director James Kallstrom agrees with Don Jr

“I think recent events, that I’m aware of, are going to improve that, because there’s going to be something actually something that’s going to happen in my view,”
“I think there’s a lot of patriots that have just had it up to here, with what’s going on. And they’re to step forward and tell people what the shenanigans have been, how they shut down the Clinton Foundation investigation, how other things, you know, were done that are so anti what the FBI and United States is all about,”

[Pavlov]

:lol Fox Business Network

[boutons_deux]

:lol Fox Business Network

and :lol "patriots" :lol

[TSA]

:lol white flags all around

[Pavlov]

:lol white flags all around:lol you declare victory every time you post.

Especially when nothing actually happens.

You don't even realize you're being manipulated.

[TSA]

McCabe draws blank on Democrats’ funding of Trump dossier, new subpoenas planned

Congressional investigators tell Fox News that Tuesday’s seven-hour interrogation of Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe contained numerous conflicts with the testimony of previous witnesses, prompting the Republican majority staff of the House Intelligence Committee to decide to issue fresh subpoenas next week on Justice Department and FBI personnel.

While HPSCI staff would not confirm who will be summoned for testimony, all indications point to demoted DOJ official Bruce G. Ohr and FBI General Counsel James A. Baker, who accompanied McCabe, along with other lawyers, to Tuesday’s HPSCI session.

The issuance of a subpoena against the Justice Department’s top lawyer could provoke a new constitutional clash between the two branches, even worse than the months-long tug of war over documents and witnesses that has already led House Speaker Paul Ryan to accuse DOJ and FBI of “stonewalling” and HPSCI Chairman Devin Nunes, R-Calif., to threaten contempt-of-Congress citations against Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and FBI Director Christopher Wray.

“It’s hard to know who’s telling us the truth,” said one House investigator after McCabe’s questioning.

Fox News is told that several lawmakers participated in the questioning of McCabe, led chiefly by Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-S.C.

Sources close to the investigation say that McCabe was a “friendly witness” to the Democrats in the room, who are said to have pressed the deputy director, without success, to help them build a case against President Trump for obstruction of justice in the Russia-collusion probe. “If he could have, he would have,” said one participant in the questioning.

Investigators say McCabe recounted to the panel how hard the FBI had worked to verify the contents of the anti-Trump “dossier” and stood by its credibility. But when pressed to identify what in the salacious document the bureau had actually corroborated, the sources said, McCabe cited only the fact that Trump campaign adviser Carter Page had traveled to Moscow. Beyond that, investigators said, McCabe could not even say that the bureau had verified the dossier’s allegations about the specific meetings Page supposedly held in Moscow.

The sources said that when asked when he learned that the dossier had been funded by the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee, McCabe claimed he could not recall – despite the reported existence of documents with McCabe’s own signature on them establishing his knowledge of the dossier’s financing and provenance. :rollin

The decision by HPSCI staff to subpoena Ohr comes as he is set to appear before the Senate Intelligence Committee, which is conducting its own probe of Russian interference in the 2016 election.

Until earlier this month, when Fox News began investigating him, Ohr held two titles at DOJ: associate deputy attorney general, a post that placed him four doors down from his boss, Rosenstein; and director of the Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Forces (OCDETF), a program described by the department as “the centerpiece of the attorney general’s drug strategy.”

Ohr will retain his OCDETF title but was stripped of his higher post and ousted from his office on the fourth floor of “Main Justice.” Department officials confirmed that Ohr had withheld from superiors his secret meetings in 2016 with Christopher Steele, the former British spy who authored the dossier with input from Russian sources; and with Glenn Simpson, the founder of Fusion GPS, the opposition research firm that hired Steele with funds supplied by the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee.

Subsequently, Fox News disclosed that Ohr’s wife Nellie, an academic expert on Russia, had worked for Fusion GPS through the summer and fall of 2016.

Former FBI Director James Comey, testifying before the House in March, described the dossier as a compendium of “salacious and unverified” allegations against then-candidate Donald Trump and his associates. The Nunes panel has spent much of this year investigating whether DOJ, under then-Attorney General Loretta Lynch, used the dossier to justify a foreign surveillance warrant against Page, a foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign.

DOJ and FBI say they have cooperated extensively with Nunes and his team, including the provision of several hundred pages of classified documents relating to the dossier. The DOJ has also made McCabe available to the House Judiciary Committee for a closed-door interview on Thursday.

The Justice Department and FBI declined to comment for this report.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/20/mccabe-draws-blank-on-democrats-funding-trump-dossier-new-subpoenas-planned.html

[TSA]

:lol you declare victory every time you post.

Especially when nothing actually happens.

You don't even realize you're being manipulated.

:lol peddles Trump/Russia collusion
:lol accuses others of being manipulated

[Pavlov]

:lol peddles Trump/Russia collusionDid Jr., Manafort and Kushner meet with Russians for the express purpose of colluding with them?

Yes or no.

[TSA]

Did Jr., Manafort and Kushner meet with Russians for the express purpose of colluding with them?

Yes or no.

Since they are currently under investigation, I'll wait for the results. :rollin

[Pavlov]

Since they are currently under investigation, I'll wait for the results. :rollinPussy.

Can't even admit a matter of recorded fact.

Did you find out if the Awans are Shia yet?

[Pavlov]

943552240308113408Why did you post this?

Can't have gone the way you prayed it would.

[Chucho]

Pussy.

Can't even admit a matter of recorded fact.

Did you find out if the Awans are Shia yet?

He got you rattled tho. Using your own methods.

[Pavlov]

He got you rattled tho. Using your own methods.Nope. He asked me what I thought.

I didn't have enough information to make the call and told him what information would help.

I asked him a simple matter of fact and he folded.

[DMC]

So you're 5'5"? and then of course there is the whole thing of you being unreliable.

Way to ignore my actual arguments, fattie. That wiki gives no link of the gene to race.

You put up a number. It's your claim, back it up.

I'm 5'11".

[DMC]

I take it that you too are too chickenshit to actually support your assertion financially.


So you're 5'5"? and then of course there is the whole thing of you being unreliable.

Way to ignore my actual arguments, fattie. That wiki gives no link of the gene to race.



Psychiatr Q. 2014 Sep;85(3):257-65. doi: 10.1007/s11126-013-9287-x.
The 2-repeat allele of the MAOA gene confers an increased risk for shooting and stabbing behaviors.
Beaver KM1, Barnes JC, Boutwell BB.
Author information
Abstract
There has been a great deal of research examining the link between a polymorphism in the promoter region of the MAOA gene and antisocial phenotypes. The results of these studies have consistently revealed that low activity MAOA alleles are related to antisocial behaviors for males who were maltreated as children. Recently, though, some evidence has emerged indicating that a rare allele of the MAOA gene-that is, the 2-repeat allele-may have effects on violence that are independent of the environment. The current study builds on this research and examines the association between the 2-repeat allele and shooting and stabbing behaviors in a sample of males drawn from the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health. Analyses revealed that African-American males who carry the 2-repeat allele are significantly more likely than all other genotypes to engage in shooting and stabbing behaviors and to report having multiple shooting and stabbing victims. The limitations of the study are discussed and suggestions for future research are offered.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24326626

[Reck]

Nothing came of these texts...except one of the FBI's top counterintelligence agents being removed from the special counsel team and placed in human resources :rollin

Nice try.

When it comes to Mueller's investigation.

It's hilarious watching you and Darrin squirm over a single FBI agent like he was driving the investigation and dictating the ultimate outcome. How guillible.

[Reck]

Obviously the Democrat senator will call for the investigation to be shut down.

HE'S ON Q'S LIST

Oops. TSA's exciment got the better of him. Looks like another bust.

:cry Warner reaping Trump a new asshole. :lol

[TSA]

Why did you post this?

Can't have gone the way you prayed it would.

It was relevant to the thread why else would I post it?

[TSA]

Nice try.

When it comes to Mueller's investigation.

It's hilarious watching you and Darrin squirm over a single FBI agent like he was driving the investigation and dictating the ultimate outcome. How guillible.

He was not only driving the Trump/Russia investigation and the Flynn interview but was also driving the handling of Christopher Steele and the Hillary email investigation.

[Pavlov]

It was relevant to the thread why else would I post it?Can't have gone the way you prayed it would.

[Reck]

He was not only driving the Trump/Russia investigation and the Flynn interview but was also driving the handling of Christopher Steele and the Hillary email investigation.

Was he or was he just part of a team that also did those things? :lol

You wouldn't have needed a Comey or a Mueller type person to be the head of the investigation if some agent can just take control of the full investigation and do as he pleases.

[Pavlov]

Was he or was he just part of a team that also did those things? :lol

You wouldn't have needed a Comey or a Mueller type person to be the head of the investigation if some agent can just take control of the full investigation and do as he pleases.His narrative is Clinton would be in prison had it not been for this guy.

[Chris]

https://scontent-dft4-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25498097_1898555800171898_533027180954206782_n.jpg ?oh=32c01f57ce18a143c9a8d5349c12a2db&oe=5AB1C455

[dabom]

You put up a number. It's your claim, back it up.

I'm 5'11".

Short fuck. :lol

[TSA]

Was he or was he just part of a team that also did those things? :lol

You wouldn't have needed a Comey or a Mueller type person to be the head of the investigation if some agent can just take control of the full investigation and do as he pleases.

Strzok wasn't just "some agent".

I expect you to declare you are leaving the political forum again once the OIG investigation releases their findings. djohn2oo8 already sees the signs and is no where to be found ITT

[Pavlov]

Strzok wasn't just "some agent".

I expect you to declare you are leaving the political forum again once the OIG investigation releases their findings. djohn2oo8 already sees the signs and is no where to be found ITT:lol he just posted ITT yesterday.

[TSA]

:lol he just posted ITT yesterday.


Jill Stein's time in the barrel and it will soon be Bernie's as well.

Not sure how I missed this gem :lmao

[Reck]

Strzok wasn't just "some agent".

I expect you to declare you are leaving the political forum again once the OIG investigation releases their findings. djohn2oo8 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14870) already sees the signs and is no where to be found ITT

You're always declaring victory. :lol

I see no reason to leave.

[djohn2oo8]

Not sure how I missed this gem :lmao

943277324727922688
:lol PeeSA

[Pavlov]

943277324727922688
:lol PeeSAYou've seen the signs!

[DMC]

Short fuck. :lol

Half pint.. ok? Little guy... ok?


I mean, I'm 6'9". It's the internet, I forgot.

[Reck]

You've seen the signs!

Illustrated with arrows and all. :lol

[dabom]

Illustrated with arrows and all. :lol

I think we need some red circles too. Kinda hard to see.

[Pavlov]

I think we need some red circles too. Kinda hard to see.How about those big yellow pointy finger emoji things TSA posted from a twitter thread?

[dabom]

Half pint.. ok? Little guy... ok?


I mean, I'm 6'9". It's the internet, I forgot.

6 2 buddy. Keep up.

[boutons_deux]

House Republicans quietly investigate perceived corruption at DOJ, FBI

A group of House Republicans has gathered secretly for weeks in the Capitol in an effort to build a case that senior leaders of

the Justice Department and FBI improperly — and perhaps criminally — mishandled the contents of a dossier

that describes alleged ties between President Donald Trump and Russia, according to four people familiar with their plans.

A subset of the Republican members of the House intelligence committee, led by Chairman Devin Nunes of California, has been quietly working parallel to the committee's high-profile inquiry into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election.

They haven't informed Democrats about their plans, but they have consulted with the House's general counsel.

The people familiar with Nunes' plans said the goal is to highlight what some committee Republicans see as corruption and conspiracy in the upper ranks of federal law enforcement.

The group hopes to release a report early next year detailing their concerns about the DOJ and FBI, and they might seek congressional votes to declassify elements of their evidence.

That final product could ultimately be used by Republicans to discredit special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into whether any Trump aides colluded with Russia during the 2016 campaign — or possibly even to justify his dismissal, as some rank-and-file Republicans and Trump allies have demanded.Republicans in the Nunes-led group suspect the FBI and DOJ have worked either to hurt Trump or aid his former campaign rival Hillary Clinton, a sense that has pervaded parts of the president’s inner circle.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/20/house-republicans-quietly-investigate-doj-fbi-310121

If Nunes and similar assholes go after DoJ, I'm sure racist asshole Sessions will be more than happy to oblige.

This must raise Constitutional questions, when the legislative branch goes after the executive branch.

Not that the Repugs give the tiniest fuck about the Constitution or any law, esp if it impacts their scorched-earth, bad-faith politics.

[Pavlov]

lol Nunes

[boutons_deux]

Russian Babies Adoption News

U.S. sanctions Chechen leader, four others under Magnitsky Act

The U.S. Treasury Department on Wednesday imposed new sanctions on five Russians and Chechens,

including the head of the Russian republic of Chechnya,

for alleged human rights abuses.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-sanctions/u-s-sanctions-chechen-leader-four-others-under-magnitsky-act-idUSKBN1EE260

This nothing but Trash showing how independent he from sucking off Pootin.

The biggest human right abuses are right here in USA.

[DarrinS]

They frog march Trump out of the WH yet? I have a feeling it will be any day now.

[dabom]

They frog march Trump out of the WH yet? I have a feeling it will be any day now.

Let's see. I was gonna make a poll about this.

1. They catch him on sexual allegations.

2. Colluding.

3. Taxes.

4. Other. Can be many things. We all know he is a piece of shit orange turd.

[DarrinS]

943277324727922688
:lol PeeSA


Let’s be honest. No one gives AF about Jill Stein.

[DarrinS]

Let's see. I was gonna make a poll about this.

1. They catch him on sexual allegations.

2. Colluding.

3. Taxes.

4. Other. Can be many things. We all know he is a piece of shit orange turd.


#2 is the least likely, IMHO

[dabom]

#2 is the least likely, IMHO

It's on a lot of peoples number 1 too.

[DarrinS]

It's on a lot of peoples number 1 too.

Just my opinion

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You put up a number. It's your claim, back it up.

I'm 5'11".

:lol you think you have credibility to be taken at your word. That is absolutely adorable.

[DarrinS]

:lol you think you have credibility to be taken at your word. That is absolutely adorable.

You guys should meet up with a measuring tape. That would be absolutely adorable.

:lmao

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I take it that you too are too chickenshit to actually support your assertion financially.

:lol wow your critical thinking skills suck. :lol thinking machismo smack is going to work.

The statement compares african americans with the allele versus all other genotypes. I'm going to help your critical thinking skills.

What or who do you think "all other genotypes" consists of.
The authors describe the specific allele here to be "rare." How does said rareness relate to the population of "all other genotypes?"
Are african americans only present in the allele group or are the not unique to that group and also present in the "all other genotypes" group.
Does this in any way support a genetic basis for race? If so, how?

I get that you are fat and lazy but posting an abstract you googled up and acting like that is an argument is not compelling in the least.

[djohn2oo8]

943683820037033984
hmmm

[DarrinS]

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/251897/obama-steele-dossier-russiagate

[djohn2oo8]

943847145924280320

[boutons_deux]

Ross is a major capo in Trash's mafiya

U.S. Commerce Official Still Holds Stake in Company Linked to Putin Associates

Wendy Teramoto, the agency’s chief of staff, has maintained the investment in the wake of calls for an investigation.

The chief of staff for Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross, Wendy Teramoto,

still owns a stake in a shipping company tied to associates of Vladimir Putin,

despite the fact that her former role as a board member for the same company

prompted six Senate Democrats to request an investigation into her apparent conflicts of interest last month.

https://www.propublica.org/article/u-s-commerce-official-still-holds-stake-in-company-linked-to-putin-associates#138521

[TSA]

943847145924280320

https://gizmodo.com/trump-transition-team-discussed-michael-flynn-using-sig-1821429655?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_faceboo k&utm_source=gizmodo_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

nothingburger deluxe

[TSA]

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/251897/obama-steele-dossier-russiagate

damn...nice find.

[boutons_deux]

damn...nice find.

Jews hate Obama, and knitters in general, just ask the African black Jews who immigrated to Israel.

Obama used the IC to disseminate the Steele dossier, that's the allegation?

[Pavlov]

Jews hate Obama, and knitters in general, just ask the African black Jews who immigrated to Israel.

Obama used the IC to disseminate the Steele dossier, that's the allegation?He used it to entrap the Trump campaign to talk about adoptions.

[boutons_deux]

The IC didn't already have the Steele dossier?

Obama had the Steele dossier and gave to the IC who didn't already have it?

[DarrinS]

Jews hate Obama, and knitters in general, just ask the African black Jews who immigrated to Israel.

Obama used the IC to disseminate the Steele dossier, that's the allegation?


Yeah, that was all about the joooos and their blatant racism. :rolleyes

[Isitjustme?]

Yeah, that was all about the joooos and their blatant racism. :rolleyes

Republicans have the most hilarious love/hate relationship with the Jews its unbelievable. Either cause of all the world's problems or victims of horrible liberal agendas with zero in between

[Isitjustme?]

Like Soros would be just another Dem donor most likely if he was a Polish Catholic but since he's a semite he's the antichrist

[spurraider21]

Like Soros would be just another Dem donor most likely if he was a Polish Catholic but since he's a semite he's the antichrist
Defend Israel at all costs but don’t say happy holidays

[Pavlov]

Defend Israel at all costs but don’t say happy holidaysJust keep the Jews around til they bring the Jesus back.

[DarrinS]

Republicans have the most hilarious love/hate relationship with the Jews its unbelievable. Either cause of all the world's problems or victims of horrible liberal agendas with zero in between

Is your sarcasm detector broken?

[TSA]

Mueller Is Investigating Russia-Funded Non-Profit At Center Of Trump Tower Meeting

Special Counsel Robert Mueller is reportedly investigating a Russia-funded non-profit group whose founders have been linked to last year’s infamous Trump Tower meeting.

Mueller’s interest in the group, the Human Rights Accountability Global Initiative Foundation (HRAGIF), appears to have little to do with the Trump campaign. Instead, according to a report by Bloomberg News, he is looking into the funding sources for the non-profit.

According to Bloomberg, Mueller’s investigators have interviewed one of the founders of HRAGIF, which was registered in Delaware last year but has received nearly all of its $500,000 in funding from three Russian businessmen and an offshore shell company.

But there is some overlap between HRAGIF’s activities and the June 9, 2016 Trump Tower meeting.

Three Russians who attended that meeting have links to HRAGIF, which bills itself as a charity aimed at helping “restart American adoption of Russian children.”

Russian attorney Natalia Veselnitskaya and her interpreter, Anatoli Samochornov, have worked for HRAGIF. Veselnitskaya is the lawyer who led the Russian delegation in the Trump Tower session, which was attended on the Trump campaign side by Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner and Paul Manafort.

Rinat Akhmetshin, a Washington, D.C.-based political operative who lobbied for HRAGIF, was also at the Trump Tower meeting.

Trump Jr. accepted the meeting after an acquaintance, music publicist Rob Goldstone, said that a “Russian government attorney” could offer him negative information about Hillary Clinton.

Trump Jr. and Veselnitskaya, the attorney mentioned in the email, have said that the meeting was a failure and that no Clinton dirt was exchanged.

But the meeting has come under heavy scrutiny from the media and Russia investigators who wonder whether it constituted collusion between the Trump campaign and Russian government. Veselnitskaya has worked in the past with Yuri Chaika, Russia’s prosecutor general

Trump supporters have raised questions of their own about the meeting. That’s because Veselnitskaya and Akhmetshin were working at the time with Glenn Simpson, the founder of Fusion GPS, the opposition research firm that commissioned the anti-Trump dossier funded by the Clinton campaign and DNC.

Simpson and Veselnitskaya were together on the morning of the Trump Tower meeting as well as shortly after. Both deny that Veselnitskaya mentioned the meeting to Simpson. Fusion GPS attorneys have denied that the firm’s work on the pro-Kremlin lobbying campaign had anything to do with its work on the dossier.

Simpson’s work with Veselnitskaya was part of a multi-pronged effort aimed at undercutting the Magnitsky Act, a 2012 law that blacklists Russian human rights abusers.

Simpson’s job was to investigate Bill Browder, a London-based banker who lobbied heavily in the U.S. to pass the sanctions law.

Browder’s lawyer, Sergey Magnitsky, is the namesake for the bill. Magnitsky was killed in a Russian prison in 2009. Browder believes he was murdered because he uncovered a massive $230 million money laundering scheme involving a Russian criminal group. Some of the money from that scheme was traced back to Denis Katsyv, a Russian businessman and client of Veselnitskaya’s.

Katsyv hired the U.S. law firm BakerHostetler to handle a civil case centered on the looted funds. Fusion GPS was paid by BakerHostetler.

Katsyv is also the largest funder of HRAGIF.

In addition to the investigation of Browder, the anti-Magnitsky campaign developed the strategy of lobbying on the issue of American adoptions of Russian children.

The Russian government banned adoptions in 2013 in retaliation for passage of the Magnitsky Act.

According to Bloomberg, the guise of using adoptions to neuter the Magnitsky Act was hatched by Ed Lieberman, a lawyer close to Akhmetshin, a former Soviet military intelligence officer. Katsyv’s lawyers at BakerHostetler introduced him to Lieberman and Akhmetshin.

Akhmetshin has already reportedly appeared before a grand jury being used by Mueller. And according to Bloomberg, Mueller’s team recently met with Robert Arakelian, one of HRAGIF’s founders and lobbyists.

Bloomberg reported that Arakelian provided details about HRAGIF’s structure and its funding. Katsyv contributed $150,000 to the group. Three Russian associates, Mikhail Ponomarev, Albert Nasibulin and Vladimir Lelyukh contributed another $250,000. A shell company called Berryle Trading donated another $100,000 to HRAGIF. Mueller asked Arakelian about Berryle Trading’s sources of funding, according to Bloomberg.

The Magnitsky Act was discussed in the Trump Tower meeting, both Trump Jr. and Veselnitskaya have said in interviews. Trump Jr. has acknowledged that he sought dirt on Clinton, while Veselnitskaya says that the meeting was put together under false pretenses. She claims that Goldstone, the Trump Jr. acquaintance, embellished the information that she had on Clinton.

Veseltnitskaya took a four-page memo into the meeting. Most of it centered on Browder’s business activities. One sentence refers to campaign contributions given to the Clinton campaign. The research for the memo was put together by Simpson. :lol oops

http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/21/mueller-is-investigating-russia-funded-non-profit-at-center-of-trump-tower-meeting/

[DarrinS]

Lol

https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2017/12/21/dont-fire-mueller-president-trump--let-him-keep-making-a-fool-of-himself-instead-n2425070

[TSA]

Lol

https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2017/12/21/dont-fire-mueller-president-trump--let-him-keep-making-a-fool-of-himself-instead-n2425070

"Mueller is a bad joke who doesn’t seem to be in on it. He’s bumbling forward, apparently ignorant of just how horrible it looks – how horrible it is – to have hired no one but committed Hillary donors for his team. Actually, it’s much, much worse than that – he’s actually hired lawyers who represented some of the unindicted criminals associated with the Clinton mosaic of corruption. Perhaps in the world Mueller inhabits with tools like Jim Comey, another buffoon who loves to preen in the glow of a once-spotless reputation that he chose to Schiff all over, this plays. But in the real world, in our world, it’s a sham, and not a very good one at that."


I still think Mueller knew exactly what he was doing when he built his team. The OIG investigation started before his team was assembled.

[Pavlov]

Lol

https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2017/12/21/dont-fire-mueller-president-trump--let-him-keep-making-a-fool-of-himself-instead-n2425070Do you share this columnist's opinion, Darrin?

Kurt Schlichter (Twitter: kurtSchlichter) was personally recruited to write conservative commentary by Andrew Breitbart. He is a successful Los Angeles trial lawyer, a veteran with a masters in Strategic Studies from the United States Army War College, and a former stand-up comic.

:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

Just curious. If Darrin and TSA were not worried about what Mueller finds, why not embrace an investigation that could clear Trump?

[TSA]

Just curious. If Darrin and TSA were not worried about what Mueller finds, why not embrace an investigation that could clear Trump?

I've never once called for the Mueller investigation to be shut down and am far from worried about what Mueller finds. Are you worried about the OIG investigation?

[Pavlov]

Just curious. If Darrin and TSA were not worried about what Mueller finds, why not embrace an investigation that could clear Trump?Their opinions now depend on whatever they read last on the internets.

[djohn2oo8]

I've never once called for the Mueller investigation to be shut down and am far from worried about what Mueller finds. Are you worried about the OIG investigation?

So will you accept Mueller's findings? What will you do if Trump fires him?

[djohn2oo8]

Their opinions now depend on whatever they read last on the internets.

Fox Newz!!!!

[Pavlov]

Fox Newz!!!!Former stand-up comics personally chosen by Breitbart.

[djohn2oo8]

Oh and wasn't TSA trying to discredit Mueller's probe because of texts by FBI agents that were illegally leaked? I thought TSA didn't like anonymous sources?

[Pavlov]

Oh and wasn't TSA trying to discredit Mueller's probe because of texts by FBI agents that were illegally leaked? I thought TSA didn't like anonymous sources?:lmao breathlessly waiting for Q's next post.

[TSA]

So will you accept Mueller's findings? What will you do if Trump fires him?

Be happy to answer your questions after you answer the one I just asked.

Are you worried about the OIG investigation?

[TSA]

Oh and wasn't TSA trying to discredit Mueller's probe because of texts by FBI agents that were illegally leaked? I thought TSA didn't like anonymous sources?

The texts were not illegally leaked and did not come from anonymous sources you dipshit :rollin

[Pavlov]

Be happy to answer your questions after you answer the one I just asked.

Are you worried about the OIG investigation?I'm not.

What are you predicting will happen because of it, TSA?

[TSA]

I'm not.

What are you predicting will happen because of it, TSA?

I predict it will expose the previous administrations politicization of the FBI and DOJ throughout the entire election.

[djohn2oo8]

Be happy to answer your questions after you answer the one I just asked.

Are you worried about the OIG investigation?

I asked you first. Will you accept Mueller's findings and what will you do if Trump fires him?

[Pavlov]

I predict it will expose the previous administrations politicization of the FBI and DOJ throughout the entire election.Then what?

[djohn2oo8]

The texts were not illegally leaked and did not come from anonymous sources you dipshit :rollin

DOJ did not authorize the release. Again, i thought you didn't like anonymous sources?

[djohn2oo8]

Hmm Tillerson said Russia interfered. Now McMaster. TSA gon have to explain himself.

[Pavlov]

Hmm Tillerson said Russia interfered. Now McMaster. TSA gon have to explain himself.Russia good.

Except when Clinton.

Then Russia bad.

[TSA]

DOJ did not authorize the release. Again, i thought you didn't like anonymous sources?

Washington (CNN)The Justice Department's internal watchdog confirmed late Friday that it did not object to the department's decision to release to Congress earlier this week a set of controversial text messages exchanged between two FBI officials.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/14/politics/nadler-writes-doj-fbi-texts/index.html

DOJ had been planning to include the text messages as part of the final IG report, Isgur Flores added, but then changed course and opted for the early release after getting congressional committee requests for the material.

She said Rosenstein consulted with the IG, who “determined that he had no objection to the department’s providing the material to the congressional committees that had requested it.”

DOJ also turned to senior career ethics advisers who “determined that there were no legal or ethical concerns, including under the Privacy Act, that prohibited the release of the information to the public either by members of Congress or by the department.”

http://www.businessinsider.com/doj-says-early-release-of-fbi-agents-texts-was-not-authorized-2017-12

:lol

[TSA]

I asked you first. Will you accept Mueller's findings and what will you do if Trump fires him?

Are you tired of being wrong yet?

I asked a question in post #16724. You quoted it, didn't answer, and then asked your questions in post #16726

Now that we've cleared that up...are you worried about the OIG investigation?

[djohn2oo8]

Washington (CNN)The Justice Department's internal watchdog confirmed late Friday that it did not object to the department's decision to release to Congress earlier this week a set of controversial text messages exchanged between two FBI officials.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/14/politics/nadler-writes-doj-fbi-texts/index.html

DOJ had been planning to include the text messages as part of the final IG report, Isgur Flores added, but then changed course and opted for the early release after getting congressional committee requests for the material.

She said Rosenstein consulted with the IG, who “determined that he had no objection to the department’s providing the material to the congressional committees that had requested it.”

DOJ also turned to senior career ethics advisers who “determined that there were no legal or ethical concerns, including under the Privacy Act, that prohibited the release of the information to the public either by members of Congress or by the department.”

http://www.businessinsider.com/doj-says-early-release-of-fbi-agents-texts-was-not-authorized-2017-12

:lol

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[TSA]

Hmm Tillerson said Russia interfered. Now McMaster. TSA gon have to explain himself.

ooooohhhh troll farms and facebook posts

[djohn2oo8]

943589302243594240

[TSA]

942206097976385537

"The letter released by the IG tonight is entirely consistent w my earlier tweets & DAG’s testimony," Flores said, referring to Rosenstein's Wednesday hearing.

"IG had no objection to release to Congress. We then consulted senior career legal/ethics experts to determine there were no issues w releasing texts to either Congress or press, " Flores wrote.

[djohn2oo8]

943810817446858752

Trump's own people. Will TSA have anything to say about this?

[TSA]

943810817446858752

Trump's own people. Will TSA have anything to say about this?


oooohhhh troll farms and facebook posts

[TSA]

943810817446858752

Trump's own people. Will TSA have anything to say about this?

Are you worried about the OIG investigation?

[djohn2oo8]

940725539169558529
2 Trump people

[djohn2oo8]

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/19/nikki-haley-russia-meddling-warfare-243942

3 Trump folks

[TSA]

I'll take your constant dodges as a yes, and you are right to be worried about the OIG investigation.

[spurraider21]

943589302243594240
thats been my point. they chose to release the juicy text about "insurance policies" but for some reason refuse to release the texts immediately preceding or following those texts to establish any sort of context whatsoever. all to drum up public response/antagonism towards the investigation

its the same way people tried to make a big deal out of "climategate" emails when the context showed their comments were harmless or benign

[djohn2oo8]

TSA

For what? Doesn't that agent still work for the FBI? So that means there was nothing illegal right? :lol PeeSA

[TSA]

TSA

For what? Doesn't that agent still work for the FBI? So that means there was nothing illegal right? :lol PeeSA

The once top counterintelligence agent is now sitting in the HR department and is still under OIG investigation.

[TSA]

RandomGuy can you post your Trump is compromised by Russia theory again I want to cross check it with this

President Trump announced sanctions Thursday against 13 individuals for human rights violations and corruption, including a Myanmar general accused of ethnic cleansing against Muslim minorities.

Mr. Trump signed an executive order announcing the sanctions, which also target 39 entities and individuals under the Global Magnitsky Act. The president declared a national emergency on global corruption and human rights abuses.

Gen. Maung Maung Soe is accused of directing military operations against the Rohingya in Myanmar, a systematic campaign that Secretary of State Rex W. Tillerson has called an example of ethnic cleansing.

“The department is committed to protecting and promoting human rights and combating corruption with all of the tools at our disposal,” Mr. Tillerson said of the new sanctions. “Today’s actions advance our values and promote the security of the United States, our allies, and our partners.”

The sanctions are the first to be issued since the Obama administration expanded the Magnitsky Act in 2016. The action will freeze the assets of the targeted people and restrict their access to the global financial system.

Among other individuals sanctioned are Sergey Kusiuk, former head of an elite police force in Ukraine, and the former president of Gambia, Yahya Jammeh. Artem Chayka, the son of Russia’s prosecutor general, is also being sanctioned; as is Slobodan Tesic, a Serbian arms dealer, and a top financial adviser to the president of South Sudan.

“Treasury is freezing their assets and publicly denouncing the egregious acts they’ve committed, sending a message that there is a steep price to pay for their misdeeds,” said Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin. “At the direction of President Trump, Treasury and our interagency partners will continue to take decisive and impactful actions to hold accountable those who abuse human rights, perpetrate corruption, and undermine American ideals.”

The Treasury Department also imposed sanctions on Wednesday of five Russian and Chechen individuals under the Magnitsky Act, including Chechen leader Ramzan Kadryov, who is considered a close ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin. He was designated for extrajudicial killings and other human rights violations.

Three of those people played a significant role in a multimillion-dollar tax fraud scheme uncovered by Russian lawyer Sergei Magnitsky, who was arrested in 2008 and died in a Moscow prison.

The Kremlin has sought to have the Magnitsky Act reversed. In 2016, Donald Trump Jr. and other Trump officials attended a meeting with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya and Russian lobbyist Rinat Akhmetshin in which Ms. Veselnitskaya has said one of her goals was to lobby Trump officials against the law.

Sen. John McCain, Arizona Republican and chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, applauded the administration’s decision to sanction the five Russians and Chechens under the law.

“Corruption and human rights abuses have become rampant in Vladimir Putin’s Russia, and the Magnitsky Act serves as important tool in holding Putin and his cronies accountable,” Mr. McCain said. “I hope that these sanctions will provide the Russian people with a small measure of justice that they are denied under the Putin regime, and bolster the efforts of those who carry on the fight for freedom in Russia and around the world.”

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/dec/21/donald-trump-sanctions-dozens-foreign-individuals-/

[Reck]

Lol

https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2017/12/21/dont-fire-mueller-president-trump--let-him-keep-making-a-fool-of-himself-instead-n2425070


"Mueller is a bad joke who doesn’t seem to be in on it. He’s bumbling forward, apparently ignorant of just how horrible it looks – how horrible it is – to have hired no one but committed Hillary donors for his team. Actually, it’s much, much worse than that – he’s actually hired lawyers who represented some of the unindicted criminals associated with the Clinton mosaic of corruption. Perhaps in the world Mueller inhabits with tools like Jim Comey, another buffoon who loves to preen in the glow of a once-spotless reputation that he chose to Schiff all over, this plays. But in the real world, in our world, it’s a sham, and not a very good one at that."


I still think Mueller knew exactly what he was doing when he built his team. The OIG investigation started before his team was assembled.

Incredible.

You two showing much glowing patriotism. Murica!

Guy has more medal of honor than Trump can count. Has been the head of the FBI longer than anyone in modern history and you call him a bad joke.

[djohn2oo8]

The once top counterintelligence agent is now sitting in the HR department and is still under OIG investigation.

And your president is still under DOJ investigation.

[djohn2oo8]

Incredible.

You two showing much glowing patriotism. Murica!

Guy has more medal of honor than Trump can count. Has been the head of the FBI longer than anyone in modern history and you call him a bad joke.

Yet TSA said he didn't try to discredit Mueller lmao

[TSA]

Incredible.

You two showing much glowing patriotism. Murica!

Guy has more medal of honor than Trump can count. Has been the head of the FBI longer than anyone in modern history and you call him a bad joke.

Incredible. You were too stupid to see I was disagreeing with the OP's thoughts on Mueller.

[TSA]

Yet TSA said he didn't try to discredit Mueller lmao

Even more incredible. You based your comment on the interpretation of a retard.

[djohn2oo8]

Even more incredible. You based your comment on the interpretation of a retard.

So you weren't trying to discredit his investigation by bringing up those text messages? :lmao

Stupid ass

[Reck]

Incredible. You were too stupid to see I was disagreeing with the OP's thoughts on Mueller.

:lol

No you weren't. You were quoting a portion you agreed with otherwise you wouldn't have quoted it.

:cry I knew he was a a joke and a traitor to this country but I knew that he knew what he was doing. :cry

You're pathetic.