Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

[spurraider21]

Flynn was guilty of trusting the FBI and not bringing a lawyer. Perjury traps are common in our corrupt system.
:lmao "perjury trap"

just some shit people made up to belittle the crime of perjury. what's next, is it a "burglary trap" to have valuable items visible through windows? all you have to do to avoid perjury is to not willfully lie

[Spurs Homer]

Robby Starbuck
Robby Starbuck
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It’s not inexplicable at all. Two FBI agents working the case didn’t think Flynn lied. This was in the House Intelligence Committee Russia Report. Andrew McCabe testified to them that two FBI agents who interviewed Michael Flynn “didn’t think he was lying.”
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Josh Dawsey
@jdawsey1
Trump told pool that he'd seen George Papadopoulos get nailed for lying to the FBI and Michael Flynn get nailed for lying to the FBI. He inexplicably said Mueller thought Flynn lied but that the FBI did not. Said he is leery they will try to ensnare him for perjury.

You worship a man who admits he is unable to walk into an interview which could clear his name and reputation and establish his innocence - and simply tell the truth?
Any human being who rightly believes he is innocent would confidently walk into that room, tell the truth and exonerate himself completely.

What does this say about anyone who defends this shady behavior?
What does this say about someone who has witnessed this shady character make over 4,000 false claims in the last year and a half - and still believes that he is innocent?
What does this say that you instantly hate and slander the people that this shady character falsely implicates because of his own criminality?
What are you teaching your own children?

[Pavlov]

They didn't think Flynn was lying.

Turned out he was indeed lying. He said so.

[dabom]

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14 days :rollin

Dude gonna get raped in there. Facts. :lol

[TSA]

“The facts described by the Special Counsel’s Office in its Statement of Offense, to which Papadopoulos has agreed, directly relate to the issue of collusion.”

https://democrats-intelligence.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=264

Origin of investigation. No collusion. 14 days :rollin

[boutons_deux]

Trash's BIG LIE: NO COLLUSION

[Cuck Ross]

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[TSA]

TSA so desperate he’ll settle this as a win. :lol

the agreed plea deal was 0 to 6 months. He cooperated, he got a super light sentence. The end. Felon in the end.



https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/07/us/politics/george-papadopoulos-sentencing-special-counsel-investigation.html

Nevermind. Not a win for you after all. :lol

:lol he cooperated

“The special counsel’s office also said that Papadopoulos has failed to provide “substantial assistance,” to their investigators — which might have warranted leniency”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/local/public-safety/mueller-prosecutors-say-prison-is-optional-for-george-papadopoulos-in-russia-probe/2018/08/17/44a194ce-a194-11e8-93e3-24d1703d2a7a_story.html?noredirect=on#click=https://t.co/BRglRSD3jE

:lol he wore a wire



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[TSA]

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I joined him about a week later over drinks in London where all of a sudden he pulls out his phone, everyone has phones when they meet with me, and he places in the front of him and he begins to tell me, “So George, hacking is in the interest of your campaign. Of course the Russians are helping you.” These open-ended questions, and “of course you’re probably involved in it, too. That’s correct, right, George?”

“I told him, ‘I have no idea what you’re talking about,’ because of course I had nothing to do with Russian interference or hacking, whatsoever,” he said. “So then he began to sweat, his demeanor changed, he became quite aggressive in his questioning.”

—————

“He reached out to me out of the blue on LinkedIn where he stated in quite confident terms he was working for Trump real estate projects, he was promoting real estate endeavors of Trump,” Papadopoulos told Tapper.

“He presented some sort of shady business proposal to me, which I rejected flat out about, ‘Work for me for $30,000 a month’ as some sort of PR consultant for an energy firm in Russia, which I never understood who it was, where the money was coming from and why me, except the qualifier was that I had to work for Trump at the same time,” he said.

“I just rejected it flat out, and I started to be suspicious,” said Papadopoulos.

:lol today’s spies

[djohn2oo8]

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of course he did

[TSA]

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of course he did

Tell me again how he cooperated and wore a wire for Mueller. Do it. :rollin

14 days :rollin

[djohn2oo8]

Manafort begging for that plea deal :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Tell me again how he cooperated and wore a wire for Mueller. Do it. :rollin

14 days :rollin
Convicted Felon. Felonies all good now. Like Manafort and like Flynn right?

[djohn2oo8]

Btw, no one claimed George was getting substantial jail time. The recommended sentence was 0-6 months. Which falls in the guidelines. TSA said he was only getting probation, which was wrong again. And now a convicted Felon.

[TSA]

Convicted Felon. Felonies all good now. Like Manafort and like Flynn right?

Tell me what part of his felony was related to Russian election collusion. Do it. :rollin

14 days :rollin

[djohn2oo8]

Tell me what part of his felony was related to Russian election collusion. Do it. :rollin

14 days :rollin
No one claimed his charge was. Now he is a convicted Felon. Like Manafort. like Flynn.

[djohn2oo8]

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[TSA]

Btw, no one claimed George was getting substantial jail time. The recommended sentence was 0-6 months. Which falls in the guidelines. TSA said he was only getting probation, which was wrong again. And now a convicted Felon.

Mueller's team wants George Papadopoulos to spend 6 months in jail, says lying impeded investigation

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/08/17/politics/papadopoulos-jail-time-special-counsel/index.html

:lol he’s cooperating
:lol he’s wearing a wire
:lol no collusion
:lol 14 days

[TSA]

No one claimed his charge was. Now he is a convicted Felon. Like Manafort. like Flynn.

Flynn isn’t a convicted felon.

What part of Manafort’s felony was related to Russian election collusion?

[djohn2oo8]

Mueller's team wants George Papadopoulos to spend 6 months in jail, says lying impeded investigation

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/08/17/politics/papadopoulos-jail-time-special-counsel/index.html

:lol he’s cooperating
:lol he’s wearing a wire
:lol no collusion
:lol 14 days
TSA doesn’t know the difference between “wants” and claimed. :lmao

[djohn2oo8]

Flynn isn’t a convicted felon.

What part of Manafort’s felony was related to Russian election collusion?
Flynn pled guilty you stupid motherfucker. :lol

[djohn2oo8]

“Flynn isn’t a convicted Felon”

:lmao Holy fucking shit :rollin

[TSA]

TSA doesn’t know the difference between “wants” and claimed. :lmao

If that’s why you think I reposted that article you’re an idiot. But if you want to talk about claims let’s do it. Tell me about you claiming Papadopoulos was cooperating and wearing a wire for Mueller.

[djohn2oo8]

“Flynn isn’t a convicted Felon”

:lmao Holy fucking shit :rollin

[TSA]

“Flynn isn’t a convicted Felon”

:lmao Holy fucking shit :rollin

Meant he hadn’t been sentenced

[TSA]

Tell me about you claiming Papadopoulos was cooperating and wearing a wire for Mueller.

[djohn2oo8]

Meant he hadn’t been sentenced
:lmao :lmao :lmao

“Flynn isn’t a convicted Felon”

:rollin

[djohn2oo8]

Not knowing the difference between convicted and sentenced :lmao

[Pavlov]

Flynn isn’t a convicted felon.:lol After all this time you don't even know what happened with Flynn.

[djohn2oo8]

:lol After all this time you don't even know what happened with Flynn.
:lmao

[TSA]

This is your white flag. You are too embarrassed to discuss Papadopoulos cooperating/flipping/wearing a wire.

[djohn2oo8]

Maybe he meant Hillary isn’t a convicted Felon :rollin

[dabom]

Btw, no one claimed George was getting substantial jail time. The recommended sentence was 0-6 months. Which falls in the guidelines. TSA said he was only getting probation, which was wrong again. And now a convicted Felon.

:lol

[djohn2oo8]

This is your white flag. You are too embarrassed to discuss Papadopoulos cooperating/flipping/wearing a wire.
Is Flynn a convicted Felon yes or no?

[Pavlov]

This is your white flag. You are too embarrassed to discuss Papadopoulos cooperating/flipping/wearing a wire.Oh, I think if anyone wore a wire it was Gates, but he probably didn't.

[djohn2oo8]

Oh, I think if anyone wore a wire it was Gates, but he probably didn't.
His wife claimed he didn’t. TSA again has no real proof he didn’t. That fuckin loser :lol

[Pavlov]

His wife claimed he didn’t. TSA again has no real proof he didn’t.Well I'm not sure what the use would be for George.

[TSA]

:lol


If you lie to a federal agent and are convicted for a violation of 18 U.S. C. § 1001, you can be fined and sentenced to federal prison for up to five years. If, however, your lie involved international or domestic terrorism, you could be sentenced to up to 8 years in federal prison.

:lol

[djohn2oo8]

Damn. TSA too slow to understand the concept of “up to”. Dumbass :lol

[TSA]

His wife claimed he didn’t. TSA again has no real proof he didn’t. That fuckin loser :lol

Proof Papadopoulos didn’t wear a wire is right here in the sentencing hearing transcript.

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[Pavlov]

Flynn isn't a sentenced felon!

[TSA]

Damn. TSA too slow to understand the concept of “up to”. Dumbass :lol

Up to 5 years, down to 14 days :rollin

[djohn2oo8]

Flynn isn't a sentenced felon!
:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

Up to 5 years, down to 14 days :rollin
You said no one was going to jail

[Pavlov]

You said no one was going to jailhttps://media1.tenor.com/images/a863a34c8e7d2f40ef681f549fdf03f6/tenor.gif

[TSA]

You said no one was going to jail

I said no one was going to jail for colluding with Russia to alter the election. I haven’t been proven wrong.

You said Trump, Trump Jr, Kushner, and Ivanka were all going to prison. You haven’t been proven right.

And you bet 2 grand on your prediction :lmao

[djohn2oo8]

I said no one was going to jail for colluding with Russia to alter the election. I haven’t been proven wrong.

You said Trump, Trump Jr, Kushner, and Ivanka were all going to prison. You haven’t been proven right.

And you bet 2 grand on your prediction :lmao
bitch you said no one was getting indicted besides Susan Rice

[dabom]

bitch you said no one was getting indicted besides Susan Rice

:lol

[djohn2oo8]

Flynn’s not a sentenced Felon :lmao

[TSA]

bitch you said no one was getting indicted besides Susan Rice

Good thing I didn’t bet 2 grand on it :lmao

[djohn2oo8]

This thread will go down in Spurstalk history as the political forums GOAT when the only person indicted is Susan Rice
GOAT

[dabom]

GOAT

Hes already dead, man! :wow

[Spurminator]

Good thing I didn’t bet 2 grand on it :lmao

:lol Okay with being wrong as long as you don't bet on it. It's like the adult version of "but I had my fingers crossed."

You have no integrity.

[Cuck Ross]

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[Pavlov]

1038476616110825472Good thing they didn't say whether he was dead or not.

[TSA]

:lol Okay with being wrong as long as you don't bet on it. It's like the adult version of "but I had my fingers crossed."

You have no integrity.

I’m okay with being wrong even when I bet on it. Line under my username is proof. If I had no integrity that wouldn’t be there and I’d still be posting from TheSanityAnnex account.

You make no sense and just come off as butthurt.

[TSA]

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Another failed set up by Western intelligence.

[Pavlov]

:lmao wakeywakey16

[Spurminator]

I’m okay with being wrong even when I bet on it. Line under my username is proof. If I had no integrity that wouldn’t be there and I’d still be posting from TheSanityAnnex account.

You make no sense and just come off as butthurt.

It makes perfect sense. You've lost the capacity to care about being a conduit for bullshit. Most people have higher standards for themselves. You, apparently, just have a lot of free time and a really low self esteem. You're desperate for purpose even if you're peddling a lie.

[Pavlov]

:lol I don't know about all that but TSA does get catty when reminded just how wrong he's been about so many things.

[boutons_deux]

Pootin laffing his ass off as Trash degrades USA, esp in USA's own backyard. :lol

U.S. Recalls Top Diplomats From Latin America as Worries Rise Over China’s Influence

The United States has recalled three chiefs of mission from

Latin American nations that cut diplomatic ties with Taiwan in favor of recognizing China.

The move comes as American officials have expressed growing unease over China’s rising influence in the region.

The diplomats, who represent the United States in the

Dominican Republic, El Salvador and Panama,

will meet with leaders in Washington

“to discuss ways in which the United States can support strong, independent, democratic institutions throughout Central America and the Caribbean,”

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/08/us/politics/us-latin-america-china.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

[TSA]

It makes perfect sense. You've lost the capacity to care about being a conduit for bullshit. Most people have higher standards for themselves. You, apparently, just have a lot of free time and a really low self esteem. You're desperate for purpose even if you're peddling a lie.

:lol all this coming from the owner of the Adam Lambert alt.

You’re butthurt the Russia collusion scandal is crumbling and your hopes of Trump being removed are all but gone. If you had any integrity you’d have been calling out all the lies being peddled from your side in this thread but you haven’t, and you won’t.

[TSA]

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Another failed set up by Western intelligence.

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[Pavlov]

1038456421933895681

Another failed set up by Western intelligence.Why don't you post the CV of "Mifsud's lawyer"?

It's worth a couple lols.

[djohn2oo8]

:lol all this coming from the owner of the Adam Lambert alt.

You’re butthurt the Russia collusion scandal is crumbling and your hopes of Trump being removed are all but gone. If you had any integrity you’d have been calling out all the lies being peddled from your side in this thread but you haven’t, and you won’t.
Literally no one is saying it’s crumbling except you. Which literally always ends up being the opposite of what’s happening Mr Uranium One.

[baseline bum]

I’m okay with being wrong even when I bet on it. Line under my username is proof. If I had no integrity that wouldn’t be there and I’d still be posting from TheSanityAnnex account.

You make no sense and just come off as butthurt.

Can you add wrong about Seth Rich and Susan Rice to the line under your username too? Thanks.

[TSA]

Can you add wrong about Seth Rich and Susan Rice to the line under your username too? Thanks.

Sure. As soon as you put wrong about Trump/Russia collusion under yours.

[TSA]

Literally no one is saying it’s crumbling except you. Which literally always ends up being the opposite of what’s happening Mr Uranium One.

If you don’t think the Trump/Russian collusion case is crumbling do you think it’s getting stronger? If so what proof do you have to support that?

[TSA]

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Failed Western intelligence operation.

[baseline bum]

Sure. As soon as you put wrong about Trump/Russia collusion under yours.

Uday already confirmed it happened.

[Pavlov]

1038180329666818048

Failed Western intelligence operation.You check out Roh's CV yet?

lol TSA

What is your conspiracy theory this time?

Walk us through it.

[djohn2oo8]

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Georgie gonna make TSA do gymnastics tryna spin this shit

[djohn2oo8]

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heyyyy Georgiieeeeeeeeeeeeee

[dabom]

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Georgie gonna make TSA do gymnastics tryna spin this shit

:lol

[Spurminator]

:lol all this coming from the owner of the Adam Lambert alt.

You’re butthurt the Russia collusion scandal is crumbling and your hopes of Trump being removed are all but gone. If you had any integrity you’d have been calling out all the lies being peddled from your side in this thread but you haven’t, and you won’t.

:lol Changing the subject to alts again. Keep going to that well, it's definitely not your crutch or anything.

I don't hope for Trump to be removed. Never have. I don't see a substantial difference between him and Pence, except that his Presidency could cause the GOP to split and crumble.

I've called out errors in the Russia narrative where I've seen them. You haven't noticed, maybe. That's not my fault. Regardless, the failure to identify every error in a narrative is far below actively pushing an erroneous narrative when it comes to integrity.

[boutons_deux]

GOP Quits Talks Over Russian Hacking And Election Ethics

Republicans blew up long-running negotiations with Democrats this week, after both sides worked quietly for months to come to a

bipartisan agreement not to use hacked (https://shareblue.com/robert-mueller-indicts-12-russians-election-hacking/) or stolen information in the upcoming campaign season.

both parties agreed not to help any hacking efforts and not to search out hacked or stolen materials, and they also agreed to report any contacts with foreign operatives to law enforcement.

GOP’s decision to abruptly end talks

“only fed the complaint by Democrats that Republican lawmakers have resisted bridging partisan divisions in the two years since Russia began its brazen attack on the American political system,

Republicans scuttled (https://shareblue.com/white-house-gop-senate-block-election-protection-security-bill/) a bipartisan effort to protect American elections against interference.

, the White House suddenly signaled to Republicans that it opposed the Secure Elections Act.

a portrait emerges of a party-wide effort by Republicans to do as little as possible (https://shareblue.com/trump-considers-outsourcing-american-cybersecurity-to-russia/)to deal with the threat of Russian hacking,

Republicans in general seem to have completely abandoned any ethical guidelines (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/9/7/1793850/-Morning-Digest-National-GOP-uses-ill-gotten-security-application-to-smear-Virginia-Democrat) :lol

in terms of what kind of sensitive information they’re willing to use to target their Democratic opponents.

the Russia hacking collective known as Gucifer 2.0 also worked hard to distribute documents (https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/13/us/politics/house-democrats-hacking-dccc.html) it had stolen from the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.

The move was done in an effort

to help Republicans try to win House races in Florida, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Ohio, Illinois and North Carolina.

House Republicans

“are not seeking hacked materials. :lol

We don’t want hacked materials. :lol

We have no intention of using hacked materials.” :lol

But in 2016 they did, and Speaker Paul Ryan approved of the dirty tactics.

Today, Republicans once again appear to be leaving open the door to teaming up with Russians in 2018.

http://www.nationalmemo.com/gop-quits-talks-over-russian-hacking-and-election-ethics/

[Reck]

Poor TSA. Taking his daily dose of Ls.

[boutons_deux]

Roger Stone Calls on Trump to Fire ‘Insubordinate Hillbilly’ Jeff Sessions
https://www.mediaite.com/trump/roger-stone-calls-on-trump-to-fire-insubordinate-hillbilly-jeff-sessions/

[RandomGuy]

Sure. As soon as you put wrong about Trump/Russia collusion under yours.

Mueller isn't done yet.

Kind of hard to say one way or the other without that wrap up. Unless you are pushing some bullshit narrative.

Is that what you are doing?

[RandomGuy]

https://vault.fbi.gov/records-between-fbi-and-christopher-steele/records-between-fbi-and-christopher-steele-part-02-of-02/view

Medium confidence
Minimally corroborated

:lol RandomGuy

???

Use your words. No idea what you are getting at here, and care about as much, if you can't explain it.

[TSA]

???

Use your words. No idea what you are getting at here, and care about as much, if you can't explain it.

Your dossier

[TSA]

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The hits just keep on coming

[TSA]

:lol Changing the subject to alts again. Keep going to that well, it's definitely not your crutch or anything.

I don't hope for Trump to be removed. Never have. I don't see a substantial difference between him and Pence, except that his Presidency could cause the GOP to split and crumble.

I've called out errors in the Russia narrative where I've seen them. You haven't noticed, maybe. That's not my fault. Regardless, the failure to identify every error in a narrative is far below actively pushing an erroneous narrative when it comes to integrity.

What erroneous narrative are you claiming I’m actively pushing?

[Pavlov]

1039226332243288071

The hits just keep on comingNothingburger after nothingburger.

[TSA]

:hungry:
Nothingburger after nothingburger.

The review of the documents suggests that the FBI and DOJ coordinated efforts to get information to the press that would potentially be “harmful to President Trump’s administration.” Those leaks pertained to information regarding the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court warrant used to spy on short-term campaign volunteer Carter Page.

The letter lists several examples:

April 10, 2017: (former FBI Special Agent) Peter Strzok contacts (former FBI Attorney) Lisa Page to discuss a “media leak strategy.” Specifically, the text says: “I had literally just gone to find this phone to tell you I want to talk to you about media leak strategy with DOJ before you go.”

April 12, 2017: Peter Strzok congratulates Lisa Page on a job well done while referring to two derogatory articles about Carter Page. In the text, Strzok warns Page two articles are coming out, one which is “worse” than the other about Lisa’s “namesake”.” Strzok added: “Well done, Page.”

The letter notes the troubling nature of the text messages. Former Deputy Director Andrew McCabe was fired by Attorney General Jeff Sessions after a scathing report from the DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz’s investigation charging McCabe with lying to investigators and leaking to the press. Last week, the DOJ announced that McCabe is currently under a grand jury investigation.
:hungry:

[Pavlov]

"suggests"

:lol

No letter you have breathlessly posted has ever meant anything.

Have you noticed this pattern yet, TSA?

[TSA]

"suggests"

:lol

No letter you have breathlessly posted has ever meant anything.

Have you noticed this pattern yet, TSA?”suggests”

:lol

“I want to talk to you about media leak strategy with DOJ before you go.”

[Pavlov]

”suggests”

:lol

“I want to talk to you about media leak strategy with DOJ before you go.”:lol it's your quote, honey.

[TSA]

:lol it's your quote, honey.

“I want to talk to you about media leak strategy with DOJ before you go.”

:downspin:

[Pavlov]

Here's where I ask TSA what he thinks is going to happen because of this letter and TSA punts.

[TSA]

Here's where I ask TSA what he thinks is going to happen because of this letter and TSA punts.

The investigation into the Russian collusion set up will continue to expose the conspirators and you’ll continue to try and downplay the revelations. Watch.

What do you think Strzok meant by this text to Page?

“I want to talk to you about media leak strategy with DOJ before you go.”

[Pavlov]

The investigation into the Russian collusion set up will continue to expose the conspirators and you’ll continue to try and downplay the revelations. Watch.

What do you think Strzok meant by this text to Page?

“I want to talk to you about media leak strategy with DOJ before you go.”It's was probably to talk about a media leak strategy.

What is your conspiracy theory today, TSA?

[TSA]

It's was probably to talk about a media leak strategy.

What is your conspiracy theory today, TSA?

Theory is the same as the last time you asked. It was a set up.

Top officials at the FBI were coordinating a leak strategy with the DOJ. Would the FBI/DOJ leaking information about a FISA application during an ongoing investigation be legal?

[Pavlov]

Theory is the same as the last time you asked. It was a set up.

Top officials at the FBI were coordinating a leak strategy with the DOJ. Would the FBI/DOJ leaking information about a FISA application during an ongoing investigation be legal?I don't know the law regarding that.

So you're conspiracy is to leak to the media about nothing and get caught doing it.

OK. Seems like a great and worthwhile plan.

[TSA]

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[Spurs Homer]

Theory is the same as the last time you asked. It was a set up.

Top officials at the FBI were coordinating a leak strategy with the DOJ. Would the FBI/DOJ leaking information about a FISA application during an ongoing investigation be legal?

Would conspiring with russia to steal the election be legal?
This is what the FBI was investigating. Why do you absolutely not care about the real issue here? Why do you really hope that there is some minor FBI process mistake - while completely dismissing the traitors who sold out our country?

[TSA]

Would conspiring with russia to steal the election be legal?
This is what the FBI was investigating. Why do you absolutely not care about the real issue here? Why do you really hope that there is some minor FBI process mistake - while completely dismissing the traitors who sold out our country?

Yes.
That isn’t the real issue.
This isn’t some minor FBI process mistake.
If you have proof Trump/Trump campaign are traitors who sold out our country you should contact Mueller immediately.

I answered all your questions. Your turn.

Would the FBI/DOJ leaking information about a FISA application during an ongoing investigation be legal?

[Winehole23]

what got leaked?

[Spurs Homer]

Yes.
That isn’t the real issue.
This isn’t some minor FBI process mistake.
If you have proof Trump/Trump campaign are traitors who sold out our country you should contact Mueller immediately.

I answered all your questions. Your turn.

Would the FBI/DOJ leaking information about a FISA application during an ongoing investigation be legal?

Where is your proof? From documents that corrupt Republicans are cherry-picking from?
That's it?

The Russians/wikileaks/Roger stone/trump campaign - conspired to steal documents (FELONY)
Russians offered to give these stolen documents to hurt a US citizen - to Trump Jr. - who said "I love it"
The mtg took place. (Conspiracy against the USA- FELONY)
Trump: "Russia- if you're listening" - that same day - Russians hacked/stole the documents - (Conspiracy)

Two weeks before his inauguration - Trump was given a classified briefing and given classified info of what the Russians did. Trump was asked to report any - ANY CONTACTS - (he didn't) -
Trump did not begin protecting the USA. Instead Trump began attacking the USA and actively began aiding and abetting the enemy who he had just been told - attacked the USA.

If you or I or any American citizen was employed in the Intelligence Agencies at this time - we would have all been enraged at the US Candidate openly conspiring against our country. All of us would have tried to stop him (the way that Strock stated he wanted him stopped) -
All of us would have hoped that the US Candidate was actually an UNwitting accomplice in this crime - for the sake of the USA.
All of us would have been enraged that all the evidence revealed that the US Candidate was actively participating in this crime and actively conspiring with the enemy. We would have seen that the US Candidate and his team were covering up this crime against the USA.

All of the above is just what any patriot would think and do.

You?

You have - every step of the way - tried to excuse this traitorous behavior. Defended it. Agreed when the traitors attacked the USA professionals defending this country. Praised the traitors when the traitors fired/attacked/destroyed the professionals in the FBI.

WTF is wrong with you?

[boutons_deux]

Alleged Russian agent Maria Butina was paid to pursue access to Vladimir Putin for TV show

Maria Butina, the alleged Russian agent who stands accused of developing a covert influence operation in the United States (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/maria-butina-russian-activist-linked-nra-charged-conspiracy/story?id=56626626), boasted of connections to high-ranking Kremlin officials and was even paid to pursue access to Russian President Vladimir Putin for a television show, ABC News has learned.

Dozens of pages of email correspondence between August 2015 and November 2016, obtained exclusively by ABC News, reveal Butina’s hand in a pair of potentially explosive projects:

appearing to arrange a meeting for a delegation of high-ranking members of the National Rifle Association with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, and

working with the Outdoor Channel to develop a television show highlighting Putin’s “love of the outdoors” that would feature the Russian President himself.

In one exchange, a pair of NRA insiders discuss their upcoming trip to Russia and appear to copy and paste a previous note from the trip’s organizer Butina — describing the note as “In Maria’s own words” — that makes explicit reference to Lavrov, one of Putin’s closest advisers.

“Almost all your schedule is done,” Butina wrote.

“We are waiting [sic] a response from The Ministry Of Foreign Affairs — Mr. Lavrov wants to meet you and we are working to make it real.”

And in another exchange between Butina and a senior executive at the Outdoor Channel,

Butina claimed her “contacts directly within the President’s office” were “VERY happy (and excited)” about the proposed program and its political potential.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/alleged-russian-agent-maria-butina-shopped-access-president/story?id=57724908

Hyper-Patriot, Perverter of 2nd Amendment NRA suckered, compromised by USA enemy Russia has been, is currently engaging in war against USA

:lol

[TSA]

Where is your proof? From documents that corrupt Republicans are cherry-picking from?
That's it?

The Russians/wikileaks/Roger stone/trump campaign - conspired to steal documents (FELONY)
Russians offered to give these stolen documents to hurt a US citizen - to Trump Jr. - who said "I love it"
The mtg took place. (Conspiracy against the USA- FELONY)
Trump: "Russia- if you're listening" - that same day - Russians hacked/stole the documents - (Conspiracy)

Two weeks before his inauguration - Trump was given a classified briefing and given classified info of what the Russians did. Trump was asked to report any - ANY CONTACTS - (he didn't) -
Trump did not begin protecting the USA. Instead Trump began attacking the USA and actively began aiding and abetting the enemy who he had just been told - attacked the USA.

If you or I or any American citizen was employed in the Intelligence Agencies at this time - we would have all been enraged at the US Candidate openly conspiring against our country. All of us would have tried to stop him (the way that Strock stated he wanted him stopped) -
All of us would have hoped that the US Candidate was actually an UNwitting accomplice in this crime - for the sake of the USA.
All of us would have been enraged that all the evidence revealed that the US Candidate was actively participating in this crime and actively conspiring with the enemy. We would have seen that the US Candidate and his team were covering up this crime against the USA.

All of the above is just what any patriot would think and do.

You?

You have - every step of the way - tried to excuse this traitorous behavior. Defended it. Agreed when the traitors attacked the USA professionals defending this country. Praised the traitors when the traitors fired/attacked/destroyed the professionals in the FBI.

WTF is wrong with you?

after your immediate dodge it was tldr

I answered all your questions. Your turn.

Would the FBI/DOJ leaking information about a FISA application during an ongoing investigation be legal?

[TSA]

1039583957606694912

[Pavlov]

So the conspiracy was to leak false information and get caught.

Diabolical!

[TSA]

So the conspiracy was to leak false information and get caught.

Diabolical!

So shook you make no sense :lol

What the fuck are you even trying to say. Explain yourself.

[Pavlov]

So shook you make no sense :lol

What the fuck are you even trying to say. Explain yourself.It's not my fault your conspiracy theory makes no sense.

You stopped saying what your conspiracy theory was months ago because it changed several times and even you couldn't keep track of it.

I'd ask you what your conspitracy theory is again, but you'd just melt down and start talking about things that have nothing at all to do with it.

:lol

[TSA]

It's not my fault your conspiracy theory makes no sense.

You stopped saying what your conspiracy theory was months ago because it changed several times and even you couldn't keep track of it.

I'd ask you what your conspitracy theory is again, but you'd just melt down and start talking about things that have nothing at all to do with it.

:lol

Leaking false information and getting caught was never my conspiracy theory. What the fuck are you even trying to say. Explain yourself.

[Spurminator]

Naturally "media leak strategy" literally means "our strategy of leaking to the media" and couldn't possibly mean anything else.

[TSA]

Naturally "media leak strategy" literally means "our strategy of leaking to the media" and couldn't possibly mean anything else.:lol you and Pavlov both leaving off “with DOJ” to try and downplay it.

What else would “discuss media leak strategy with DOJ” mean? This was texted the day before the WaPo revealed the Carter Page FISA. It was also the same WaPo author the FBI (McCabe/Page) admitted using to leak.

Would the FBI/DOJ leaking information about a FISA application during an ongoing investigation be legal?

[TSA]

Naturally "media leak strategy" literally means "our strategy of leaking to the media" and couldn't possibly mean anything else.

Also, what erroneous narrative are you claiming I’m actively pushing?

[Pavlov]

Leaking false information and getting caught was never my conspiracy theory. What the fuck are you even trying to say. Explain yourself.I'm saying no one can say what your conspiracy theory is now because you changed it several times and shut up and whine every time anyone asks.

You'll never actually say what it is again.

:lol

[Spurminator]

:lol you and Pavlov both leaving off “with DOJ” to try and downplay it.

What else would “discuss media leak strategy with DOJ” mean? This was texted the day before the WaPo revealed the Carter Page FISA. It was also the same WaPo author the FBI (McCabe/Page) admitted using to leak.

Would the FBI/DOJ leaking information about a FISA application during an ongoing investigation be legal?

Australia unveiled a climate change strategy today. We need to figure out what technology they've gotten ahold of that changes the climate.

[TSA]

I'm saying no one can say what your conspiracy theory is now because you changed it several times and shut up and whine every time anyone asks.

You'll never actually say what it is again.

:lol

I’ve said from the start it was an attempted set up to frame Russian collusion.


So the conspiracy was to leak false information and get caught.

Diabolical!

Leaking false information and getting caught was never my conspiracy theory. You posted this immediately after more texts from Strzok were revealed. Explain yourself.

[TSA]

Australia unveiled a climate change strategy today. We need to figure out what technology they've gotten ahold of that changes the climate.

:lol the mental gymnastics you faggots are forced to go through these days

Man the fuck up and admit you were duped for fuck’s sake.

[TSA]

These people from the FBI have already admitted to leaking to the media yet this time when they are texting about a media leak strategy with DOJ it doesn’t mean literally that :rollin

Also, question pending.

Would the FBI/DOJ leaking information about a FISA application during an ongoing investigation be legal?

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[dabom]

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:lol

[Reck]

:lol the mental gymnastics you faggots are forced to go through these days

Man the fuck up and admit you were duped for fuck’s sake.

Oh the irony. :lol

[djohn2oo8]

:lol
Imagine if he gets a deal and it’s full cooperation :lol

[Spurs Homer]

after your immediate dodge it was tldr

I answered all your questions. Your turn.

Would the FBI/DOJ leaking information about a FISA application during an ongoing investigation be legal?

This excerpt should clear up your latest nothingburger/propaganda:

Representatives Elijah Cummings (D-MD) and Jerrold Nadler (D-NY), ranking members on the House Oversight and Judiciary Committees, respectively, issued a statement slamming Rep. Mark Meadows (R-NC) for spreading made-up conspiracy theories about the meaning behind just released text messages between Peter Strzok and Lisa Page.
From the press release: (https://nadler.house.gov/press-release/nadler-and-cummings-issue-statement-after-gop-leaks-and-mischaracterizes-documents)

“Republicans in Congress repeatedly cherry-pick, mischaracterize, and then leak bits and pieces of documents to fabricate conspiracy theories to protect President Trump, and this is just the latest example. The documents clearly show that Mr. Strzok and Ms. Page were not discussing how to leak documents to the press—but whether the Justice Department should change its regulations to stop leaks to the media. We don’t know how many times Republicans will try this same trick—or how many times President Trump will take advantage of them—but they need to start fulfilling their constitutional duty to conduct credible oversight of the Executive Branch rather than acting as the President’s personal defense counsel.”

[Spurs Homer]

after your immediate dodge it was tldr

I answered all your questions. Your turn.

Would the FBI/DOJ leaking information about a FISA application during an ongoing investigation be legal?

Also, I gave you every bit of proof that is actually public knowledge you idiot. Just read the post - it gives you the proof that Trump conspired with Russia. Why you defend a traitor goes to show what kind of a citizen you are.

[Spurminator]

Thing is, there may not be concrete proof of Russian collusion that we know of, but there's also no proof that the FBI gave Hillary a pass and yet a few anti-Trump texts is all it takes for Trump loyalists to be convinced.

Trump has regularly tweeted things that are more suspect of obstruction than any of the Strzok/Page texts. This is of no concern, though, to the Reddit/4chan obsessives like TSA.

[Spurminator]

:lol the mental gymnastics you faggots are forced to go through these days

Man the fuck up and admit you were duped for fuck’s sake.

You think it's mental gymnastics because you're so locked-in to the reality you've created for yourself after probably a little YEAR spent obsessing over this stuff. You can't see any other possibilities even if it's the more logical and realistic.

What intel do you think they were talking about leaking? What proof do you have that he was a source for that intel?

[Spurminator]

And when you're wrong about this one you're just going to move on to the next Trump-servicing conspiracy theory and pretend you never brought it up. And if you do mention it again, you'll just say something stupid like "Derrr but at least I din bet on it."

:lol Fucking loser.

[Reck]

What intel do you think they were talking about leaking? What proof do you have that he was a source for that intel?

Ah. It is finally revealed where TSA is coming off with and drafting off of.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1039684040901779457

Of course.

But that wasn't a leak anyways. Poor TSA.

[TSA]

This excerpt should clear up your latest nothingburger/propaganda:

Representatives Elijah Cummings (D-MD) and Jerrold Nadler (D-NY), ranking members on the House Oversight and Judiciary Committees, respectively, issued a statement slamming Rep. Mark Meadows (R-NC) for spreading made-up conspiracy theories about the meaning behind just released text messages between Peter Strzok and Lisa Page.
From the press release: (https://nadler.house.gov/press-release/nadler-and-cummings-issue-statement-after-gop-leaks-and-mischaracterizes-documents)

“Republicans in Congress repeatedly cherry-pick, mischaracterize, and then leak bits and pieces of documents to fabricate conspiracy theories to protect President Trump, and this is just the latest example. The documents clearly show that Mr. Strzok and Ms. Page were not discussing how to leak documents to the press—but whether the Justice Department should change its regulations to stop leaks to the media. We don’t know how many times Republicans will try this same trick—or how many times President Trump will take advantage of them—but they need to start fulfilling their constitutional duty to conduct credible oversight of the Executive Branch rather than acting as the President’s personal defense counsel.”




You’ve cleared nothing up and just dodged my question again.

Would the FBI/DOJ leaking information about a FISA application during an ongoing investigation be legal?

[TSA]

Thing is, there may not be concrete proof of Russian collusion that we know of, but there's also no proof that the FBI gave Hillary a pass and yet a few anti-Trump texts is all it takes for Trump loyalists to be convinced.

Trump has regularly tweeted things that are more suspect of obstruction than any of the Strzok/Page texts. This is of no concern, though, to the Reddit/4chan obsessives like TSA.

:rollin

[TSA]

You think it's mental gymnastics because you're so locked-in to the reality you've created for yourself after probably a little YEAR spent obsessing over this stuff. You can't see any other possibilities even if it's the more logical and realistic.There are federal prosecutors and a grand jury convened for McCabe for leaking to the media and somehow the thought of Strzok and the DOJ leaking the existence of the Page FISA is not logical and out of touch with reality. :rollin


What intel do you think they were talking about leaking? What proof do you have that he was a source for that intel?

The existence of the Page FISA. I don’t think Strzok leaked it, I think Page did to WaPo’s Devin Bartlett the day following the text from Strzok. “Well done Page”

The proof will come from their testimony, same as how McCabe got rolled. It’s CYA time and they are all out for themselves.

[TSA]

And when you're wrong about this one you're just going to move on to the next Trump-servicing conspiracy theory and pretend you never brought it up. And if you do mention it again, you'll just say something stupid like "Derrr but at least I din bet on it."

:lol Fucking loser.
And when I’m not wrong about this will you run off and create another alt to post under?

You’ve been dodging simple questions today should I ask Adam or can you answer on your own?

What erroneous narrative are you claiming I’m actively pushing?

Would the FBI/DOJ leaking information about a FISA application during an ongoing investigation be legal?

[TSA]

Imagine if he gets a deal and it’s full cooperation :lol

Like Papa’s cooperation you boasted about? :rollin

Like the wire you said Papa was wearing? :rollin

[TSA]

Also, I gave you every bit of proof that is actually public knowledge you idiot. Just read the post - it gives you the proof that Trump conspired with Russia. Why you defend a traitor goes to show what kind of a citizen you are.

You should give all your proof to Mueller he seems to need help proving collusion.

[TSA]

Naturally "media leak strategy" literally means "our strategy of leaking to the media" and couldn't possibly mean anything else.

1039678557176385538

Time to show some integrity Spurm, you are long overdue.

[TSA]

which one of you little pussies created the Raul Manafort alt just to read my replies and not have to use your main account :rollin

[Pavlov]

I’ve said from the start it was an attempted set up to frame Russian collusion.



Leaking false information and getting caught was never my conspiracy theory. You posted this immediately after more texts from Strzok were revealed. Explain yourself.
So the set up was true information?

lol

[TSA]

So the set up was true information?

lol

There was FISA app for Carter Page, true information. If the FBI leaked that information to the WaPo would that be illegal? Yes or no.

[djohn2oo8]

Like Papa’s cooperation you boasted about? :rollin

Like the wire you said Papa was wearing? :rollin
Sentence longer than Susan Rice’s. :lmao

[djohn2oo8]

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Deep state Ken

[boutons_deux]

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Deep state Ken

cheap whore political hac Kavanaugh agrees if Dem Pres, but Repug Pres is untouchably above the law

[djohn2oo8]

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LORDY!!!!

[Winehole23]

what got leaked?

[Winehole23]

I see TSA crying about leaks with zero specificity

[TSA]

I see TSA crying about leaks with zero specificity

If the FBI leaked the Carter Page FISA information to the WaPo would that be illegal? Yes or no.

[Winehole23]

I would guess so, I have no idea.

Did that happen? Yes or no.

[TSA]

Naturally "media leak strategy" literally means "our strategy of leaking to the media" and couldn't possibly mean anything else.

“But there is a much less nefarious possible explanation here: That Strzok and Page were not discussing fostering leaks but, rather, combating them.” :lmao

“It's important to note that in the first text, Strzok doesn't just talk about the “media leak strategy” but about a strategy being coordinated with the “DOJ” — the Justice Department. That could be read to suggest this was, indeed, about Sessions's anti-leak effort.” :lmao

“In addition, Strzok's “Well done, Page” text is also completely unclear.”
“Could it be a reference to some success in the anti-leak effort, perhaps by preventing certain details from appearing in print?” :lmao

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/2018/09/11/trumps-new-reckless-peter-strzok-conspiracy-theory/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.d7a554bc9545&__twitter_impression=true

http://thefederalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Screen-Shot-2018-06-14-at-4.13.44-PM.png

First, we frequently find that the universe of Department and FBI employees who had access to sensitive information that has been leaked is substantial, often involving dozens, and in some instances, more than 100 people. We recognize that this is a challenging issue, because keeping information too closely held can harm an investigation and the supervision of it. Nevertheless, we think the Department and the FBI need to consider whether there is a better way to appropriately control the dissemination of sensitive information.

Second, although FBI policy strictly limits the employees who are authorized to speak to the media, we found that this policy appeared to be widely ignored during the period we reviewed. We identified numerous FBI employees, at all levels of the organization and with no official reason to be in contact with the media, who were nevertheless in frequent contact with reporters. The large number of FBI employees who were in contact with journalists during this time period impacted our ability to identify the sources of leaks.

https://www.justice.gov/file/1071991/download

[TSA]

I would guess so, I have no idea.

Did that happen? Yes or no.

I would guess so, I have an idea.

[Pavlov]

I would guess so, I have an idea.But you have no conspiracy theory. :lmao

[Reck]

TSA wrong about pizzagate---or about everything.

[Spurminator]

:rollin

That's not a rebuttal.


There are federal prosecutors and a grand jury convened for McCabe for leaking to the media and somehow the thought of Strzok and the DOJ leaking the existence of the Page FISA is not logical and out of touch with reality.

Never said that. I'm not the one here who is unwilling to consider other possibilities, that's you. What I said was texting "media leak strategy" isn't proof of a literal strategy to leak to the media. You can't handle the possibility of other interpretations that don't fit the "Deep State is out to get MY PRESIDENT" hysteria.


The existence of the Page FISA. I don’t think Strzok leaked it, I think Page did to WaPo’s Devin Bartlett the day following the text from Strzok. “Well done Page”

The proof will come from their testimony, same as how McCabe got rolled. It’s CYA time and they are all out for themselves.

You think. That's a good start. That means there could be other outcomes.


And when I’m not wrong about this will you run off and create another alt to post under?


You’ve been dodging simple questions today should I ask Adam or can you answer on your own?

:cry muh alts :cry


What erroneous narrative are you claiming I’m actively pushing?

:lol
You keep asking this question because apparently you haven't figured out how to scroll back to previous pages in the thread.

Let's recap. This started with you saying you were okay being wrong about Susan Rice being indicted because you didn't bet $2K on it. I said that's because you don't care about your integrity. You claimed I wasn't doing enough to call out people pushing the Russia collusion narrative. I said the failure to actively contradict every erroneous narrative is not the same as actively pushing a false narrative.

Are you caught up?

You've been carrying water for pro-Trump conspiracy theorists for over two years. You were wrong about Pizzagate. You were wrong about Susan Rice. You were wrong about Seth Rich. You were wrong about Hillary Clinton having Parkinson's disease. I can only imagine how much you've been wrong about topics that I haven't cared to devote hours of spare time to reading and posting about, but given your tendency to repeat whatever the Trump-serving echo chamber tells you to believe, I'm sure there's more.

But specifics don't really matter as much as the consistent devotion to arguing in service of Donald Trump's corruption and obstruction.



Would the FBI/DOJ leaking information about a FISA application during an ongoing investigation be legal?

Maybe? What does this have to do with your certainty of the meaning of Strzok's text in the absence of proof?


1039678557176385538

Time to show some integrity Spurm, you are long overdue.

:lol A tweet of a Republican representative with the same opinion as yours doesn't validate your opinion or give you integrity.

Let me know when they find those Strzok/Page leaks. Until then, you're just speculating the way your masters tell you to.

[Spurminator]

“But there is a much less nefarious possible explanation here: That Strzok and Page were not discussing fostering leaks but, rather, combating them.” :lmao

“It's important to note that in the first text, Strzok doesn't just talk about the “media leak strategy” but about a strategy being coordinated with the “DOJ” — the Justice Department. That could be read to suggest this was, indeed, about Sessions's anti-leak effort.” :lmao

“In addition, Strzok's “Well done, Page” text is also completely unclear.”
“Could it be a reference to some success in the anti-leak effort, perhaps by preventing certain details from appearing in print?” :lmao

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/2018/09/11/trumps-new-reckless-peter-strzok-conspiracy-theory/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.d7a554bc9545&__twitter_impression=true

http://thefederalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Screen-Shot-2018-06-14-at-4.13.44-PM.png

First, we frequently find that the universe of Department and FBI employees who had access to sensitive information that has been leaked is substantial, often involving dozens, and in some instances, more than 100 people. We recognize that this is a challenging issue, because keeping information too closely held can harm an investigation and the supervision of it. Nevertheless, we think the Department and the FBI need to consider whether there is a better way to appropriately control the dissemination of sensitive information.

Second, although FBI policy strictly limits the employees who are authorized to speak to the media, we found that this policy appeared to be widely ignored during the period we reviewed. We identified numerous FBI employees, at all levels of the organization and with no official reason to be in contact with the media, who were nevertheless in frequent contact with reporters. The large number of FBI employees who were in contact with journalists during this time period impacted our ability to identify the sources of leaks.

https://www.justice.gov/file/1071991/download

So, as evidence that the Strzok texts *couldn't possibly* be about combating leaks in the FBI, you've decided to show that there is a problem with leaks in the FBI.

See how the echo chamber makes you stupid?

[TSA]

So, as evidence that the Strzok texts *couldn't possibly* be about combating leaks in the FBI, you've decided to show that there is a problem with leaks in the FBI.

See how the echo chamber makes you stupid?

“But there is a much less nefarious possible explanation here: That Strzok and Page were not discussing fostering leaks but, rather, combating them.”

“It's important to note that in the first text, Strzok doesn't just talk about the “media leak strategy” but about a strategy being coordinated with the “DOJ” — the Justice Department. That could be read to suggest this was, indeed, about Sessions's anti-leak effort.”

“In addition, Strzok's “Well done, Page” text is also completely unclear.”
“Could it be a reference to some success in the anti-leak effort, perhaps by preventing certain details from appearing in print?”

:lol echo chamber

[Winehole23]

I would guess so, I have an idea.if the DOJ agrees, it might authorize an investigation.

kinda like when it authorized an investigation into whether Russia had compromised people in DJT's campaign.

[TSA]

“we’ll stop him”

:lol by stopping damaging leaks against him

[Pavlov]

TSA's conspiracy theory is that in April Strzok was discussing a strategy to leak information that had already been leaked by a senate aide in March.

lol

[Spurminator]

“But there is a much less nefarious possible explanation here: That Strzok and Page were not discussing fostering leaks but, rather, combating them.”

“It's important to note that in the first text, Strzok doesn't just talk about the “media leak strategy” but about a strategy being coordinated with the “DOJ” — the Justice Department. That could be read to suggest this was, indeed, about Sessions's anti-leak effort.”

“In addition, Strzok's “Well done, Page” text is also completely unclear.”
“Could it be a reference to some success in the anti-leak effort, perhaps by preventing certain details from appearing in print?”

:lol echo chamber

Repeating yourself is the sure sign that you're winning the argument. :tu

I get it. You're as certain about this as you were about everything else you've been certain about here, most of which you abandoned when the outcomes didn't go your way. You'll do the same here if you're wrong.

Stubborn myopia isn't really something to be proud of. But maybe it's all you have?

[Cuck Ross]

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[boutons_deux]

Of course a slave state Repug Senator wants to whitewash his party's so-called President.

Mueller, not Burr, will have the last word

[Spurs Homer]

You should give all your proof to Mueller he seems to need help proving collusion.

He has a million other pieces of proof/corroboration. He does not need anyone's help. Your only hope is that Trump and his criminal enterprise find some way - any way - to muddy the waters long enough for Trumps presidency to end before being held accountable.
If you/they succeed then you can cheer for the criminal as he says he is retiring because the swamp is not worth "draining" while claiming victory.

Only problem with this is the statute of limitations thingy. Trump will be held accountable either while in office - or after he is out of office.

Mueller is not on your timetable. Or trump and rudy julie-yanni's lol.

[koriwhat]

Of course a slave state Repug Senator wants to whitewash his party's so-called President.

Mueller, not Burr, will have the last word

^^^ bouts is another pussy just like pavTHETIC. two big fucking pussies.

[koriwhat]

...Or trump and rudy julie-yanni's lol.

actually he is. djt should just fire the hack.

[RandomGuy]

So, as evidence that the Strzok texts *couldn't possibly* be about combating leaks in the FBI, you've decided to show that there is a problem with leaks in the FBI.

See how the echo chamber makes you stupid?

No, he doesn't. He really doesn't.

[Spurs Homer]

If the FBI leaked the Carter Page FISA information to the WaPo would that be illegal? Yes or no.


If Carter Page broke into your house, assaulted your family, stole your Trump posters off your wall - would you immediately go on a crusade to see who leaked Carter Page's name to the media- off of the police report?

You are a traitor or a Russian. SMH.

[Pavlov]

Seriously -- the entire warrant application was leaked by Wolfe in March and a story based on information from that leak had come out on April 3, so naturally Strzok would have to be texting about how to leak harder somehow in the days that followed.

[Winehole23]

You are a traitor or a Russian. SMH.this is exactly analogous to calling Iraq War critics unpatriotic and traitors.

criticism of government and policy is always legit, even if it is wrong.

this comment reflects worse on you than TSA.

[Spurs Homer]

actually he is. djt should just fire the hack.


Trump would STILL be held accountable. The investigation would just be picked up by other patriotic public servants just doing their job - which is to get to the truth. Why are you not as dedicated as they are at getting to the truth?

Are you one of those that would salute a Russian flag over someone who is not a Republican?

[Pavlov]

You are a traitor or a Russian. SMH.lol no.

He is stunningly gullible, however.

[boutons_deux]

lol no.

He is stunningly gullible, however.

tribally motivated gullibility

[Pavlov]

actually he is. djt should just fire the hack.That wouldn't really stop anything at this point.

[Spurs Homer]

this is exactly analogous to calling Iraq War critics unpatriotic and traitors.

criticism of government and policy is always legit, even if it is wrong.

this comment reflects worse on you than TSA.

The public knowledge already revealed is enough for any reasonable person to at least acknowledge that an investigation is more than warranted.

What they are doing is not merely criticizing the gov't and policy - that would be understandable and even patriotic.

Trump and his entire cult could have stated from day one -"we don't believe the president committed any crimes and we will cooperate in any way until the investigation is completed and the complete truth is revealed."
Then if they would have allowed the investigation to continue unimpeded - maybe then they could claim unfair treatment or government corruption - in the absence of any charges (like Benghazi) or guilty pleas or convictions, etc

Lying about every single incident/meeting regarding Russians to actively aiding and abetting the country that attacked us - is not simply "criticism of government and policy."
Trump targeting public servants like McCabe, Ohr, Comey , etc is a stain on this country when you remember that the complicit Republicans in Congress aided and abetted in this public obstruction of justice.

It is part of the crime of obstructing an investigation. Trump being the ring leader in this obstruction is the one that must answer for this. His cult and their stupidity is another matter entirely.

[Spurminator]

Seriously -- the entire warrant application was leaked by Wolfe in March and a story based on information from that leak had come out on April 3, so naturally Strzok would have to be texting about how to leak harder somehow in the days that followed.

Good point.

And obviously when organizing such a leak, they would directly refer to it as their "media leak strategy."

It's like how I used to keep the movies I downloaded over bit torrent in a folder called "Stolen Copyrighted Material."

[Winehole23]

The public knowledge already revealed is enough for any reasonable person to at least acknowledge that an investigation is more than warranted.

What they are doing is not merely criticizing the gov't and policy - that would be understandable and even patriotic.

Trump and his entire cult could have stated from day one -"we don't believe the president committed any crimes and we will cooperate in any way until the investigation is completed and the complete truth is revealed."
Then if they would have allowed the investigation to continue unimpeded - maybe then they could claim unfair treatment or government corruption - in the absence of any charges (like Benghazi) or guilty pleas or convictions, etc

Lying about every single incident/meeting regarding Russians to actively aiding and abetting the country that attacked us - is not simply "criticism of government and policy."
Trump targeting public servants like McCabe, Ohr, Comey , etc is a stain on this country when you remember that the complicit Republicans in Congress aided and abetted in this public obstruction of justice.

It is part of the crime of obstructing an investigation. Trump being the ring leader in this obstruction is the one that must answer for this. His cult and their stupidity is another matter entirelyUnreasonable people are always free to disagree.

I get that people who disbelieve the bona fides of the Mueller investigation get your goat, ditto spreading lies and propaganda about it, but none of that is the equivalent of levying war against the USA or aiding and abetting its enemies.

It's free speech. Free to be as biased, ignorant or wrong as it pleases.

[RandomGuy]

TSA's conspiracy theory is that in April Strzok was discussing a strategy to leak information that had already been leaked by a senate aide in March.

lol

It really is that dumb. I had to re-read it a couple of times, but that is the implication.

These stupid fuckers really want to cling to their delusions sooooo badly, they remind me of Cosmored.

[boutons_deux]

Revealed In 'Fear': Pence Lied About Flynn (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/9/12/1795170/-Revealed-In-Fear-Pence-Lied-About-Flynn)

what is categorically revealed here is that

Vice President Pence lied about when he learned that Flynn had discussed sanctions with Kislyak.

The purported reason that Flynn was fired was that he had lied to Pence about not discussing sanctions.

These denials had supposedly resulted in Pence backing up Flynn’s story.

Here is the current publicly accepted timeline (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/12/10/pence-flynn-and-russia-investigation-timeline-key-events/935046001/) with my emphasis:

[...]

Note, on February 14th, one day after Flynn resigns, Pence’s spokesperson says Pence only learned about Yate’s warning and Flynn’s discussions about sanctions four days earlier on February 9 from the media. This is still their assertion.

Here is the Woodward transcript from today’s Rachael Maddow Show:

...On January 26, Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates had come to the White House.

She told White House Counsel Donald McGahn that intercepts showed that Flynn had not been truthful about contacts with Russians and was worried that Flynn could be a blackmail target.

Flynn had denied discussing the sanctions 10 times, Priebus calculated…

Priebus tracked down White House Counsel McGahn…

Priebus asked him if they could get the transcripts of the conversations that Flynn had with the Russian Ambassador.

Yes, McGahn said, of course. Soon he had the highly classified transcripts of three communications between Flynn and Kislyak that the FBI had intercepted during the routine monitoring of the Russian Ambassador.

McGahn and Pribus were joined by Vice President Pence in the Situation Room to review the transcripts.

Pence had backed Flynn’s denial publicly.

In all three transcripts, Flynn and the ambassador discussed the sanctions. In the last call, initiated by Kislyak, the ambassador thanked Flynn for his advice on the sanctions and said the Russians would follow it.

That nailed the story and it explained Putin’s curiously passive response to the sanctions.

Normally the Russian president would be expected to retaliate expelling some Americans from Russia.

But the day after Obama announced the sanctions, Putin announced he would not.

President-elect Trump praised Putin, tweeting “Great move on delay (by V. Putin)-I always knew he was very smart!”

The sequence suggested that Trump might have known of Flynn’s role.

But it was unclear what Flynn said to the president about his conversations with Kislyak.


By Woodward’s reporting,

Pence knew about Flynn’s discussions regarding sanctions with Kislyak long before February 9th,

and he did not learn about these discussions from the media.

He actually read the transcripts in the situation room with McGahn and Priebus weeks earlier.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/9/12/1795170/-Revealed-In-Fear-Pence-Lied-About-Flynn?detail=emaildkre

If Woodward has this criminal evidence on Pence, the Mueller has it, too, and probably more.

Flynn was of course key to the Trash/mafiya collusion.

All these innocent Trash+mafiya LIE publicly just to amuse themselves, or are they covering up multiple crimes?

[boutons_deux]

Feds just found secret money funneled to Trump Tower meeting attendee from Putin oligarch

documents (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/anthonycormier/trump-tower-meeting-suspicious-transactions-agalarov) revealing transactions flowing from Russia to Switzerland to the British Virgin Isles, Bangkok, and on to New Jersey. Write Anthony Cormier and Jason Leopold of Buzzfeed:

“The documents show Aras Agalarov, a billionaire real estate developer close to both Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump, at the center of this vast network and

how he used accounts overseas to filter money to himself, his son, and at least two people who attended the Trump Tower meeting.

The records also offer

new insight into the murky financial world inhabited by many of Trump’s associates,

who use shell companies and secret bank accounts to quickly and quietly move money across the globe.”


Buzzfeed has also learned that, in particular,

federal law enforcement officials are zeroing in on a series of transactions that occurred several days after the Trump Tower meeting and

then right after the presidential election.

The former show Agalarov moving $19.5 million to New York.

https://washingtonpress.com/2018/09/12/feds-just-found-secret-money-funneled-to-trump-tower-meeting-attendee-from-putin-oligarch/ (https://washingtonpress.com/2018/09/12/feds-just-found-secret-money-funneled-to-trump-tower-meeting-attendee-from-putin-oligarch/)

[TSA]

Seriously -- the entire warrant application was leaked by Wolfe in March and a story based on information from that leak had come out on April 3, so naturally Strzok would have to be texting about how to leak harder somehow in the days that followed.

Nothing in that story spoke of Page and the FISA warrant.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/alimwatkins/a-former-trump-adviser-met-with-a-russian-spy

Keep trying to spin it though :lol

[TSA]

It really is that dumb. I had to re-read it a couple of times, but that is the implication.

These stupid fuckers really want to cling to their delusions sooooo badly, they remind me of Cosmored.

:lol you re-read and still didn’t realize Pavlov was wrong

[TSA]

Good point.

:lol how bout no he’s wrong

[koriwhat]

Trump would STILL be held accountable. The investigation would just be picked up by other patriotic public servants just doing their job - which is to get to the truth. Why are you not as dedicated as they are at getting to the truth?

Are you one of those that would salute a Russian flag over someone who is not a Republican?

nah, i'm one of those who believe having crooks investigate anything but themselves is hilarious. you have the same crooks who started spygate doing the investigation into russia. sounds legit to me.btw, i don't care about dem or repub; both fucking suck and are wings of the same bird. i'm not here to salute the russian flag nor am i here to buy the bs you and those like you have been suckered into like "Russia! Russia! Russia!"

[Reck]

1039900467864596480

Are they even looking for it?

[RandomGuy]

:lol you re-read and still didn’t realize Pavlov was wrong

???

how specifically? I just don't see it.

[Pavlov]

Nothing in that story spoke of Page and the FISA warrant.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/alimwatkins/a-former-trump-adviser-met-with-a-russian-spy

Keep trying to spin it though :lolAre you saying that story was based on something other than the information received by that reporter from Wolfe in his March leak, TSA?

Yes or no.

[Spurs Homer]

Unreasonable people are always free to disagree.

I get that people who disbelieve the bona fides of the Mueller investigation get your goat, ditto spreading lies and propaganda about it, but none of that is the equivalent of levying war against the USA or aiding and abetting its enemies.

It's free speech. Free to be as biased, ignorant or wrong as it pleases.

You make good points. In normal times I would agree 100% and admit to being overzealous.
In normal times.

These are not normal times. A foreign gov't attacked our 2016 Democratic elections. If one of the pillars of a Democracy are free and fair elections chosen by the people - and everyone agrees on that -then these are not normal times and one could even argue that after a cyberattack we may be in a state of modern warfare. No artillery or mass casualties but a war of technology being weaponized - and the attack was successful enough that Russia had a lot to do with who was placed in office.

The sitting president and his team are highly suspect in this attack and may even be conspirators in this attack. Post-attack they have been enablers and conspirators and in my opinion have sold out the country.

It will be proven completely in the not too distant future. For now- public information suggests more than enough evidence has been released that confirms conspiracy to defraud the USA.

[TSA]

Are you saying that story was based on something other than the information received by that reporter from Wolfe in his March leak, TSA?

Yes or no.

The buzzfeed story? No, not at all.

Does the buzzfeed story report on the existence of the Page FISA?

Yes or no.

Does the WaPo article report on the existence of the Page FISA?

Yes or no.

[RandomGuy]

You make good points. In normal times I would agree 100% and admit to being overzealous.
In normal times.

These are not normal times. A foreign gov't attacked our 2016 Democratic elections. If one of the pillars of a Democracy are free and fair elections chosen by the people - and everyone agrees on that -then these are not normal times and one could even argue that after a cyberattack we may be in a state of modern warfare. No artillery or mass casualties but a war of technology being weaponized - and the attack was successful enough that Russia had a lot to do with who was placed in office.

The sitting president and his team are highly suspect in this attack and may even be conspirators in this attack. Post-attack they have been enablers and conspirators and in my opinion have sold out the country.

It will be proven completely in the not too distant future. For now- public information suggests more than enough evidence has been released that confirms conspiracy to defraud the USA.

That is what the evidence would seem to indicate, yes.

That wont' stop conspiratards from thinking Trump is some brilliant strategist with a secret "winning" plan to "get Hillary".

[Pavlov]

The buzzfeed story? No, not at all.So how did the reporter know Page was MALE-1 in the court filing, TSA?

Explain your theory.

[TSA]

Are you saying that story was based on something other than the information received by that reporter from Wolfe in his March leak, TSA?

Yes or no.

Are you saying the WaPo story was based on information Ali Watkins was provided by Wolfe?

[TSA]

So how did the reporter know Page was MALE-1 in the court filing, TSA?

Explain your theory.

You’re so confused you don’t even realize I’m not arguing your position on the buzzfeed story. :lol
I know it was based on what Ali Watkins received from Wolfe.

[Pavlov]

Are you saying the WaPo story was based on information Ali Watkins was provided by Wolfe?No.

I'm saying information from the FISA warrant was already public and confirmed by Page. Knowing that, and knowing the emphasis placed on finding leaks by the Trump administration, your conclusion is high ranking FBI and DOJ officials immediately decided to leak information they knew had already been leaked.

And texted openly about it on devices subject to review or monitoring at any time.

Sounds airtight.

[Pavlov]

You’re so confused you don’t even realize I’m not arguing your position on the buzzfeed story. :lol
I know it was based on what Ali Watkins received from Wolfe.So even you know the FISA warrant was leaked and information from it published before the text messages were sent.

:lol

[Pavlov]

I mean at least you had the Podestas talking in pedo pizza code.

You have career FBI agents saying "Hey, let's talk about our illegal caper!" in texts.

[Spurminator]

Like, if they were texting openly about actually leaking something, it doesn't seem natural to call it a "media leak strategy." Why not just call it the "leak" or even the "FISA leak"?

It's like a a couple of burglars planning to rob a 7-Eleven but discussing it as their "convenience store robbery plan."

Again, entirely possible they did leak something at some time. But the explanation in the Post article is a lot more plausible than the Tucker/Hannity/Trump version.

[Reck]

The hits keeps on coming for TSA.

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1040010179344035841

Where are you going to get your orders from now, TSA?

[spurraider21]

4chan obviously

[Chris]

The hits keeps on coming for TSA.

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1040010179344035841

Where are you going to get your orders from now, TSA?

Reddit ban? Trump is finished.

[Chris]

ruh roh


Damning New Strzok Text to Page: “The Times is Angry With Us About the WP Scoop”



A series of text messages released Wednesday reveal that former FBI Special Agent Peter Strzok was in contact with reporters at the New York Times and Washington Post regarding stories they published about the FBI’s investigation into alleged collusion between Russia and President Trump’s campaign during the spring of 2017, according to a series of texts obtained by SaraACarter.com.

The text messages suggest that Strzok, along with his paramour, former FBI Attorney Lisa Page, had been in contact with reporters from both newspapers. Strzok specifically mentioned two-time Pulitzer Prize-winning New York Times writer Michael Schmidt his text message to Page.

Strzok wrote, “Also, apparently Times is angry with us about the WP (Washington Post) scoop and earlier discussion we had about the Schmidt piece that had so many inaccuracies. Too much to detail here, but I told Mike (redacted) and Andy they need to understand we were absolutely dealing in good faith with them,” Strzok texted to Page on April 14, 2017. “The FISA one, coupled with the Guardian piece from yesterday.” (The New York Times did not respond immediately for comment. The Washington Post also did not respond immediately for comment.)

According to several U.S. officials who spoke to this news outlet, “Mike” mentioned in Strzok’s text message is Mike Kortan, the former FBI assistant director for public affairs who retired in February. “Andy” was in reference to former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe. McCabe was fired earlier this year after it was revealed in DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz’s report that said he lied to investigators and leaked information to the media.

These series of text messages appear to go against recent statements made by Strzok’s attorney, Aitan Goelman…

These series of text messages appear to contradict statements made by Strzok’s attorney, Aitan Goelman, after it was revealed earlier this week that Strzok and Page discussed a “media leak strategy” in some of their text messages. Goelman insisted, “the term ‘media leak strategy’ in Mr. Strzok’s text refers to a Department-wide initiative to detect and stop leaks to the media.”

Goelman’s statement came after President Trump tweeted about the newly revealed text messages and North Carolina Rep. Mark Meadows sent a letter to Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein asking him to investigate the text from Strzok regarding the “media leak strategy.”

In light of the recent Strzok and Page text messages, Meadows has also asked Rosenstein to provide the committee with the opportunity “to review text messages, emails, and written communication form FBI and DOJ officials Stu Evans, Mike Kortan, and Joe Pientka between June 2016 to June 2017,” first reported here.

Meadows stated in the letter, “to be clear, we are not suggesting wrongdoing on the part of Evans, Kortan, and Pientka- and, in fact, previously reviewed documents suggest that some of these individuals may share the committees’ same concerns.”

On April 11, 2017, The Washington Post broke a story titled “FBI Obtained FISA warrant to monitor former Trump advisor Carter Page,” which contained detailed information that the FBI had obtained a secret court order to monitor Page, a short-term Trump campaign volunteer, in October 2016. The story, written by Ellen Nakashima, Devlin Barrett and Adam Entous referred to unnamed U.S. law enforcement and other U.S. officials who told The Washington Post that the FBI and Department of Justice obtained the warrant on Page after “convincing a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance court judge that there was probable cause to believe Page was acting as an agent of a foreign power.”

However, in April 2017, former FBI Director James Comey had signed the third renewal on Page, according to reports. In June, Rosenstein would sign off on the fourth FISA warrant renewal application to allow the FBI to continue monitoring all of Page’s communications, which ended in September 2017, after the renewal expired.

“It may constitute a waiver of any reason for secrecy provisions that are part of a warrant application,” said criminal and civil rights attorney, David Schoen. “Under the rules of the FISA court, their disclosure to a third party should have been revealed to the FISA court. It’s a material fact that should be disclosed under the FISA court rules and besides all that it would certainly violate FBI rules. The question is why was he doing that? Why was he leaking it?”

Schoen believes there is no reason the FISAs should not to be declassified considering they were willing to leak the information to the Washington Post.

The Washington Post story also suggested that the FISA warrant on Page “is the clearest evidence so far that the FBI had reason to believe during the 2016 presidential campaign that a Trump associate was in touch with Russian agents.”

Page, who has denied any wrongdoing and has never been taken into custody for the claims made by the FBI, said his life was turned upside down when his name was leaked to the media. He said he has also received death threats and his reputation was tarnished after former British spy Christopher Steele leaked parts of his unverified anti-Trump dossier to the media.

“Like I’ve said all along this is a complete joke,” Page told SaraACarter.com. “It’s not about me, they are just trying to undercut the Trump administration’s accomplishments.”

https://saraacarter.com/damning-new-strzok-text-to-page-the-times-is-angry-with-us-about-the-wp-scoop/

[Winehole23]

You make good points. In normal times I would agree 100% and admit to being overzealous.
In normal times.

These are not normal times. A foreign gov't attacked our 2016 Democratic elections. If one of the pillars of a Democracy are free and fair elections chosen by the people - and everyone agrees on that -then these are not normal times and one could even argue that after a cyberattack we may be in a state of modern warfare. No artillery or mass casualties but a war of technology being weaponized - and the attack was successful enough that Russia had a lot to do with who was placed in office.

The sitting president and his team are highly suspect in this attack and may even be conspirators in this attack. Post-attack they have been enablers and conspirators and in my opinion have sold out the country.

It will be proven completely in the not too distant future. For now- public information suggests more than enough evidence has been released that confirms conspiracy to defraud the USA.This is essentially a Schmittian argument. That a state of emergency requires the suspension of regular constitutional order and that therefore bulletin board shitposters are enemies of the republic and should be prosecuted as traiitors.

Piffle.

There'll be a chance to vote DJT out in two years, what's the rush?

[Winehole23]

also, face it, Spurs Homer (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=52221): HRC lost against the second most unpopular presidential candidate ever, and she got beaten in states she took for granted.

It's more than partly on HRC. She ran a shitty campaign, talked less about the issues than anyone since they started measuring it, and failed to connect with voters emotionally.

Maybe she should have held a few more press conferences. Her opponent sure got a lot of free media exposure. It was a mistake for HRC to hunker down and avoid the press.

[Nbadan]

...media has done a poor job describing how Russia influenced the election..

Nearly 600 Russian troll accounts tweeted about ObamaCare: report
Source: the hill



Nearly 600 Russian-linked troll accounts posted conservative, anti-ObamaCare messages to Twitter from 2014 through this past May, The Wall Street Journal reports.

According to research from Clemson University, the Internet Research Agency (IRA) tweeted nearly 10,000 messages about health policy and ObamaCare.

Eighty percent of those tweets had conservative-leaning political messages, often disparaging the health-care law, a Journal analysis found.

The IRA is a “troll farm” based in St. Petersburg that seeks to sow division among the electorate. The company was indicted by special counsel Robert Mueller in February over its alleged attempts to meddle in the 2016 election.

Health care is playing a major role in the mid-term elections, and experts said the tweets are an example of how Russia is continuing to use social media to its advantage in a campaign for influence over U.S. elections.

Read more: http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/406309-nearly-600-russian-troll-accounts-tweeted-about-obamacare-report

[Chris]

These troll farms are so unreliable.

[Winehole23]

you are a totally reliable troll

[Spurs Homer]

also, face it, Spurs Homer (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=52221): HRC lost against the second most unpopular presidential candidate ever, and she got beaten in states she took for granted.

It's more than partly on HRC. She ran a shitty campaign, talked less about the issues than anyone since they started measuring it, and failed to connect with voters emotionally.

Maybe she should have held a few more press conferences. Her opponent sure got a lot of free media exposure. It was a mistake for HRC to hunker down and avoid the press.

1) I am not a HRC fan or supporter but I will acknowledge that - in any universe - she was the lesser of two yuuge evils.
2) Your reasons for her loss - might be true - had they all occurred in a vacuum - they did not.
3) Russia (and the conspirators in the Trump team) had a lot to do with how those things played out, how their own strategy (Trump team) was informed by the Russian hackers and the Russian data analytics, etc - which led to how they actually attacked the HRC campaign.

So, yeah, some of your assertions are half true and in time we may see exactly how this Russian/Trump team conspiracy actually swung the election towards Trump and then those reasons you are giving might not be so clear cut to you also.

[Spurs Homer]

“we’ll stop him”

:lol by stopping damaging leaks against him

Any public servant - who has been warned by an ally of the USA that a candidate for president might be a russian asset - would absolutely have a duty to "stop him."
A simple statement about stopping a criminal who has been compromised and could be a danger to our democracy - has been turned into an ominous sign of bias.
Reach much?

[DarrinS]

3) Russia (and the conspirators in the Trump team) had a lot to do with how those things played out, how their own strategy (Trump team) was informed by the Russian hackers and the Russian data analytics, etc - which led to how they actually attacked the HRC campaign.

:lmao


Reminds me of this...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lHngH7kMMA


:lol -- the look on that guy's face at 0:50

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

Let’s see if he just pled out

[Reck]

1040356590895996928

Trump a few weeks ago: Paul Manafort is very strong, never gave in.

Trump today: Who's Paul Manafort?

[djohn2oo8]

Trump a few weeks ago: Paul Manafort is very strong, never gave in.

Trump today: Who's Paul Manafort?
Could just be a plea to avoid trial. We will see if any cooperation

[baseline bum]

Could just be a plea to avoid trial. We will see if any cooperation

No way he flipped. He just doesn't want to pay for another trial since he's already got a pardon locked down.

[djohn2oo8]

No way he flipped. He just doesn't want to pay for another trial since he's already got a pardon locked down.
Except Trump can’t pardon co conspirators. If he tries it, the state will come back with more charges and there is no escape.

[DarrinS]

Except Trump can’t pardon co conspirators. If he tries it, the state will come back with more charges and there is no escape.

Co-conspirator in what?

[djohn2oo8]

Co-conspirator in what?
In the Russia investigation crimes. In financial crimes. Etc. Sorry Darrin. That self perma ban gonna look good on you.

by the way, Cohen claimed in court Trump was his co conspirator In the payments.

[Reck]

No way he flipped. He just doesn't want to pay for another trial since he's already got a pardon locked down.

So he's going to get 3 pardons? Or 2? I dont know exactly how that would work but he's been found guilty on 8 of 18 and the judge in that case gave Mueller more time to decide if he wants to retry those other 10. He gets found guilty on those and the one in DC and he's triple fucked.

I just dont see how pardoning him at least twice is going to be a good look on Trump.

[Spurs Homer]

Co-conspirator in what?

If Trump pardons Manafort, and Mueller is able to prove that Trump promised Manafort the pardon - in order to keep Manafort from testifying truthfully in a crime that Trump is involved in - then Trump would have another Obstruction of Justice charge added.

[djohn2oo8]

If Trump pardons Manafort, and Mueller is able to prove that Trump promised Manafort the pardon - in order to keep Manafort from testifying truthfully in a crime that Trump is involved in - then Trump would have another Obstruction of Justice charge added.
Yep

[djohn2oo8]

So he's going to get 3 pardons? Or 2? I dont know exactly how that would work but he's been found guilty on 8 of 18 and the judge in that case gave Mueller more time to decide if he wants to retry those other 10. He gets found guilty on those and the one in DC and he's triple fucked.

I just dont see how pardoning him at least twice is going to be a good look on Trump.
it wouldn’t work and could count as more obstruction charges

[DarrinS]

If Trump pardons Manafort, and Mueller is able to prove that Trump promised Manafort the pardon - in order to keep Manafort from testifying truthfully in a crime that Trump is involved in - then Trump would have another Obstruction of Justice charge added.

Another? There’s not even one.

Maybe Trump helped Manafort fudge his tax returns. :lmao

[Spurs Homer]

Why are Repugs obstructing and interfering to benefit Russia - at every turn?


https://investigaterussia.org/media/2018-09-13/house-republicans-block-bid-helsinki-details

[DarrinS]

it wouldn’t work and could count as more obstruction charges

More obstruction charges? Can you give me the current list?

[baseline bum]

So he's going to get 3 pardons? Or 2? I dont know exactly how that would work but he's been found guilty on 8 of 18 and the judge in that case gave Mueller more time to decide if he wants to retry those other 10. He gets found guilty on those and the one in DC and he's triple fucked.

I just dont see how pardoning him at least twice is going to be a good look on Trump.

You think Trump gives two fucks how the pardons look? He only has to impress GOP voters who will swallow any amount of shit from him.

[Spurs Homer]

Another? There’s not even one.

Maybe Trump helped Manafort fudge his tax returns. :lmao

You believe Mueller is not sitting on a strong Obstruction of Justice charge (or three?) against Trump?

1) Comey (loyalty test) - comey refused - Comey fired.
2) Lester Holt interview
3) Trump ordering McGahn to fire Mueller
4) Trump lying about the Trump tower mtg-then crafting a false statement about the mtg to obstruct
5) A library full of tweets labeling the investigation a hoax/witch hunt/etc
6) Trump spilling his guts in the Oval ofc to the Russians after firing Comey
7) Trump harassing Sessions
8) Trump targeting and influencing the McCabe firing
9) Trump maligning Bruce Ohr
10) Trump attacking Mueller via tweet



Geez, there is probably a few more things to bolster an Obstruction case - but you think Mueller - has no charges in his back pocket just waiting for the proper time?

:rollin

[baseline bum]

If Trump pardons Manafort, and Mueller is able to prove that Trump promised Manafort the pardon - in order to keep Manafort from testifying truthfully in a crime that Trump is involved in - then Trump would have another Obstruction of Justice charge added.

Who gives a shit? The Republicans are going to boot him from office?

[Reck]

Another? There’s not even one.

Maybe Trump helped Manafort fudge his tax returns. :lmao

Have you been living under a rock?

Trump has been under investigation for a year and a half and a big component of the investigation is about obstruction of justice.

[Reck]

You think Trump gives two fucks how the pardons look? He only has to impress GOP voters who will swallow any amount of shit from him.

Well given that a huge Trumpie was part of the Manafort trial and had to vote for a guilty verdict because the charges were so obvious and said that if Trump pardoned him she would look at him different. That's pretty big coming from a braiwashed Trump lover.

[Spurs Homer]

Who gives a shit? The Republicans are going to boot him from office?

Mueller is methodically constructing his case(s). He will follow the truth, follow the money, follow the law which will result in the truth revealed.

The stronger the case gets - and the lower Trumps approval ratings go - will be like a rope being squeezed around the complicit corrupt Republican neck. Factor in the mid-terms and the possibility of a big change in one or both House/Senate - and the wiggle room the Republicans once had will be almost gone.

They can go ahead and remain in Trumps corner as long as they want - but not without political consequences, eventually.

[djohn2oo8]

You think Trump gives two fucks how the pardons look? He only has to impress GOP voters who will swallow any amount of shit from him.
There are limits to pardons especially those counting as self pardons.

[TSA]

Could just be a plea to avoid trial. We will see if any cooperation

If it’s just a plea to avoid trial with no cooperation you’ll be crushed and Mueller will be wrapping up shortly after.

[djohn2oo8]

If it’s just a plea to avoid trial with no cooperation you’ll be crushed and Mueller will be wrapping up shortly after.
Mueller doesn’t need his cooperation dipshit :lol

[Reck]

If it’s just a plea to avoid trial with no cooperation you’ll be crushed and Mueller will be wrapping up shortly after.

Mueller has been "wrapping up" for half a year now according to you and Giulianni.

[baseline bum]

There are limits to pardons especially those counting as self pardons.

So you expect Republicans to jump in and fix things when there is a constitutional crisis? Yeah me neither.

[djohn2oo8]

So you expect Republicans to jump in and fix things when there is a constitutional crisis? Yeah me neither.
I expect the courts to uphold the Constitution and they will. If Trump wasn’t worried at all about this, would he want Mueller and Sessions fired so badly?

[boutons_deux]

"I expect the courts to uphold the Constitution"

The SCOTUS5 will uphold the Constitution as they see fit to satisfy the oligarchy (eg unlimited corruption) and white male Christian supremacists (lgbt, women discriminated against), everybody else will be fucked.

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[TSA]

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“Peter Strzok sent a text message revealing that The New York Times was angry with the FBI over a scoop published by The Washington Post regarding spy warrants against Carter Page.”

:cry but but but that doesn’t prove the FBI was leaking to the media to damage Trump :cry

[TSA]

Mueller doesn’t need his cooperation dipshit :lol

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[djohn2oo8]

"I expect the courts to uphold the Constitution"

The SCOTUS5 will uphold the Constitution as they see fit to satisfy the oligarchy (eg unlimited corruption) and white male Christian supremacists (lgbt, women discriminated against), everybody else will be fucked.



Enough of the pessimistic bs. He ain’t beating the courts. DOJ. Or FBi.

[TSA]

Mueller doesn’t need his cooperation dipshit :lol

Mueller hasn’t even mentioned collusion with Russia in any of the indictments.

Cohen—nope
Papadopoulos—nope
Gates—nope
Manafort—nope

So who set up the collusion with Russia djohn?

[TSA]

Enough of the pessimistic bs. He ain’t beating the courts. DOJ. Or FBi.

He doesn’t need to beat the courts.

And he doesn’t need to beat the FBI/DOJ. All the Russia set up conspirators from the DOJ/FBI have been fired/removed/demoted and are all testifying against each other. :rollin

[djohn2oo8]

Mueller hasn’t even mentioned collusion with Russia in any of the indictments.

Cohen—nope
Papadopoulos—nope
Gates—nope
Manafort—nope

So who set up the collusion with Russia djohn?
He has and you keep ignoring it.

[djohn2oo8]

He doesn’t need to beat the courts.

And he doesn’t need to beat the FBI/DOJ. All the Russia set up conspirators from the DOJ/FBI have been fired/removed/demoted and are all testifying against each other. :rollin
Yet you said Wray was a Trump guy and would protect him. :lol Dumbass

[djohn2oo8]

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lol

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[djohn2oo8]

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Goomy. Chrissyboy. :lmao :lmao

[djohn2oo8]

Wonder how TSA will try to spin Trump’s campaign manager conspiring against the United States.

[ElNono]

Witch hunt, tbh... case is crumbling... will celebrate when Manafort only gets two weeks in jail...

[djohn2oo8]

Witch hunt, tbh... case is crumbling... will celebrate when Manafort only gets two weeks in jail...
:lmao

[ElNono]

Wonder how TSA will try to spin Trump’s campaign manager conspiring against the United States.

Trump is in a different realm though, even though he’ll now probably badmouth Manafort if he flips.

[djohn2oo8]

Asset forfeiture as well for Manafort.

[djohn2oo8]

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