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ChumpDumper
07-31-2021, 10:30 AM
"I don’t think calling them dumb is the way to do it. "

Trumptard snowflakes need the most coddling of all.

boutons_deux
07-31-2021, 11:03 AM
'Has he had a severe head injury?':

Ron Johnson ripped for denying COVID is a 'deadly disease'


https://www.rawstory.com/ron-johnson-2654313418/

Thread
07-31-2021, 11:39 AM
"I don’t think calling them dumb is the way to do it. "

Trumptard snowflakes need the most coddling of all.


We're counting on you now, Dumps, and that count is now over 230k of dead Americans, sonny-boy.

Let us proceed...

koriwhat
07-31-2021, 12:52 PM
Come on Delta and take out all the old commies in office starting with Pelosi first, then Biden, et al. :tu

Blake
07-31-2021, 03:27 PM
Come on Delta and take out all the old commies in office starting with Pelosi first, then Biden, et al. :tu

Sorry, tats but they've been vaccinated so the odds are against your death wish

koriwhat
07-31-2021, 03:29 PM
I can't wait to hear that the CUCKOLD variant has arrived and is here to wreak havoc on weak men like BlaKKKe. :tu

Blake
07-31-2021, 03:34 PM
I can't wait to hear that the CUCKOLD variant has arrived and is here to wreak havoc on weak men like BlaKKKe. :tu

I've been vaccinated, you haven't.

koriwhat
07-31-2021, 03:40 PM
The CUCKOLD is at it again as if IGAF about his crying. I will continue to wish death on bitch ass males like yourself BlaKKKe so hang it up already because I don't fucking care for you or the others nor do IGAF about your constant crying about nothing whatsoever mr virtue signaler.

I bet your ex got sick of pegging you and wanted to get pegged herself. :lol

hater
07-31-2021, 03:46 PM
Anti vax passport protests in France going WILD

https://twitter.com/actuspeed/status/1421502802178809859?s=19

hater
07-31-2021, 03:48 PM
:tu go French freedom fighters

https://twitter.com/ivan_8848/status/1421482692818898959?s=19

Blake
07-31-2021, 04:03 PM
The CUCKOLD is at it again as if IGAF about his crying. I will continue to wish death on bitch ass males like yourself BlaKKKe so hang it up already because I don't fucking care for you or the others nor do IGAF about your constant crying about nothing whatsoever mr virtue signaler.

I bet your ex got sick of pegging you and wanted to get pegged herself. :lol

You know what makes calling me BlaKKKe hilarious is because you're doing it from that one time I called you KKKoriwhat because of your racist comments followed by "but I have dinner with that one Muslim/Black/Hispanic/gay friend"

koriwhat
07-31-2021, 04:18 PM
You know what makes calling me BlaKKKe hilarious is because you're doing it from that one time I called you KKKoriwhat because of your racist comments followed by "but I have dinner with that one Muslim/Black/Hispanic/gay friend"

Glad I looked at this reply... Post my "racist" rant bro so we can all see just how "racist" it truly is or continue to claim shit you can't and won't back up ever.

And you know in your little list there's only 2 races included; Muslim and Gay aren't a race you fucking dumbass.

koriwhat
07-31-2021, 04:19 PM
BlaKKKe's upset because his obese ex-wife won't peg him any longer. :cry

Blake
07-31-2021, 05:46 PM
Glad I looked at this reply... Post my "racist" rant bro so we can all see just how "racist" it truly is or continue to claim shit you can't and won't back up ever.

And you know in your little list there's only 2 races included; Muslim and Gay aren't a race you fucking dumbass.

Ok bro I'll try to find it bro. I'm sure once I do post it though bro, you'll just deny it's racist, bro because you have that one gay friend you go to dinner with every now and then, bro.

Blake
07-31-2021, 05:47 PM
BlaKKKe's upset because his obese ex-wife won't peg him any longer. :cry

Why are you upset, bro?

Blake
07-31-2021, 06:22 PM
Glad I looked at this reply... Post my "racist" rant bro so we can all see just how "racist" it truly is or continue to claim shit you can't and won't back up ever.

And you know in your little list there's only 2 races included; Muslim and Gay aren't a race you fucking dumbass.

I'll accept bigot if you want to get technical, bigowhat.


lmao islam is not a race you dumb motherfucker. smh

i have plenty of friends from israel and a couple from iran but but but ISLAM!

you're mad at me because you're a sad excuse of a man? it's quite comical how weak you truly are cuckBlaKKKe.

:lmao

Blake
07-31-2021, 06:32 PM
i have no muslim friends and never will have any.

:lol bigowhat

koriwhat
07-31-2021, 07:08 PM
You're so pathetic BlaKKKe you can't even point to actual "racist" remarks because they don't exist. I am leery of Islam, not anyone in particular but the "religion" itself.

Again, prove I'm a racist and fail miserably again like you just did you fucking CUCKOLD!


And if you are so upset and really want a jab at me, that goes for the other fruits like yourself, then come see me already or STFU and stop crying about everything I say here. You're all a bunch of pussies!

koriwhat
07-31-2021, 07:11 PM
Ok bro I'll try to find it bro. I'm sure once I do post it though bro, you'll just deny it's racist, bro because you have that one gay friend you go to dinner with every now and then, bro.

Do you even see how stupid you come across in this one reply? GAY; what kind of race is that? Btw, I'm no homophobe yet you seem to be one.

Blake
07-31-2021, 07:24 PM
Right, I already said I have no problem retracting the term "racist" and replacing it with "bigot", just to help ease your pain.

ducks
07-31-2021, 07:59 PM
Dem Rep. Nadler — and Pelosi — Seen Violating House Mask Mandate

boutons_deux
07-31-2021, 10:13 PM
Florida sets record for most new COVID cases during the pandemic —

as GOP governor rages against masks
https://www.rawstory.com/ron-desantis-florida/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

boutons_deux
07-31-2021, 10:16 PM
Matt Gaetz mocks Delta variant and

calls Fauci 'sniveling little twit' amid record Florida outbreak


https://www.rawstory.com/matt-gaetz-2654322908

DarrinS
07-31-2021, 11:20 PM
You're all going to get infected.

Good night.

ChumpDumper
07-31-2021, 11:27 PM
You're all going to get infected.

Good night.You're always going to be an unsanitary cunt who wants to watch the world burn.

Blake
07-31-2021, 11:38 PM
You're all going to get infected.

Good night.

Is that what you and the other barflies are discussing tonight?

boutons_deux
08-01-2021, 07:17 AM
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/228946167_5380379475388396_1646859566118463593_n.j pg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=1n8A_arcnSwAX_Sn2wA&tn=3qKHg3gOayZgFp7Q&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=1b5f97727ebd27e713f8757f6221df97&oe=612DDD92

boutons_deux
08-01-2021, 08:03 AM
Repug MISgovernance, it nevers fails to fail

Texas just passed New York in COVID-19 deaths, despite once trailing by 29,000.
Here's how.

Texas has passed New York to become the state with the second-most COVID-19 deaths (https://www.houstonchronicle.com/coronavirus/article/texas-coronavirus-map-cases-houston-covid-19-15137466.php), a feat experts say was driven by an inability to control transmission of the virus here.

“They enacted really strong, precautionary measures that overall are well based in the available science,” Fox said. “It seems that many of the Texas policies were put in place to try and prevent health care collapse rather than trying to prevent transmission.”

By June 30 of last year, as the first wave of the COVID-19 pandemic swept through the United States (https://www.houstonchronicle.com/coronavirus/article/covid-interactive-map-houston-texas-us-case-virus-15142609.php), New York tallied 31,775 virus deaths. Texas had just 2,481.

Over next 13 months, however, the states reversed roles.

New York kept restrictions and mask rules in place longer and consistently maintained a lower positivity rate than Texas.

In contrast, Texas endured two surges of the virus and is in the early stages of a third, as the Delta variant now sweeps the country as a fourth wave of the virus.

https://www.expressnews.com/news/houston-texas/health/article/Texas-New-York-COVID-deaths-case-numbers-16352409.php

pgardn
08-01-2021, 09:25 AM
We keep our reputation as business friendly.
Thank god...

Winehole23
08-01-2021, 10:45 AM
Hospitalization rates are well below the last wave and will remain that way unless we are being lied to about vaccine efficacy. It's disingenuous to use ICU bed availability as the metric for overwhelming hospitals. ICU beds are too expensive to be kept available when they are not needed. It's demonstrated in your graph.It's NBD to you, but Austin/Travis County considers it a serious problem to have only 13 open ICU beds for a 2.3 million person county, 50 COVID hospitalizations a day and 13.7% test positivity -- we hit stage 5 here yesterday.

You might also be wrong about how quickly more ICU beds can be staffed up under the current pressure of COVID, RSV and Croup. There's a lot of burnout and a smaller cohort of workers to draw from.

3,600+ US doctors and nurses have died from COVID since last March.

Winehole23
08-01-2021, 10:46 AM
Williams is one of many health-care workers rethinking their frontline careers in response to heightened pressure from the Covid-19 crisis.

According to recent studies, between 20% (https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/948749) and 30% (https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/04/22/health-workers-covid-quit/) of frontline U.S. health-care workers say they are now considering leaving the profession. Notably, one April 2021 study (https://www.vivian.com/community/announcements/one-year-in-whats-next-for-americas-healthcare-workers/) by health care jobs marketplace Vivian found that four in 10 (43%) nurses are considering leaving their role in 2021 — a figure that is higher among ICU workers (48%).

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/31/covid-is-driving-an-exodus-among-health-care-workers.html

boutons_deux
08-01-2021, 10:54 AM
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=c5ffe9fe07&attid=0.1&permmsgid=msg-a:r5368190474072690946&th=17b026b34bcc6983&view=fimg&sz=s0-l75-ft&attbid=ANGjdJ-C9Dxj5cEXVlHcIhELOEha7NAeyM4CGGh4u44bsOLzhoIUhevL5 jsuYJ9f2vXZGxTmne5RMQXV5QYvpszBr3qZe6onmh6pxFgpCEJ xXHMZ9xZtlFY9SCmN5jA&disp=emb&realattid=ii_krtdufmd0

Winehole23
08-01-2021, 11:01 AM
rules are for little people

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Winehole23
08-01-2021, 11:18 AM
we may have had a chance to get SARS-CoV-2 under control had we simply paid people to stay at home early enough on.


Although some high-frequency contacts are driven by social gatherings, which are modifiable with education and enforcement, most high-risk exposures represent nonmodifiable risks due to living and working conditions (2 (https://science.sciencemag.org/content/373/6551/162#ref-2), 3 (https://science.sciencemag.org/content/373/6551/162#ref-3), 7 (https://science.sciencemag.org/content/373/6551/162#ref-7)). Therefore, risk factors that are nonmodifiable in the short term are likely to represent a much larger PAF than those modifiable by individual choices about social contact. Specifically, the onward transmission risks from someone who can work from home and has enough space for self-isolation, even if they are infected, may be minimal; but the PAF will be higher for someone with a large network associated with working and living conditions (see the figure).https://science.sciencemag.org/content/373/6551/162

Winehole23
08-01-2021, 11:29 AM
hey Dumb Darrin, have you seen this?

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/health/article/Texas-New-York-COVID-deaths-case-numbers-16352409.php

spurraider21
08-01-2021, 11:30 AM
my dumbass unvaccinated cousin caught it too, started having chest pains and went to urgent care

DarrinS
08-01-2021, 12:00 PM
hey Dumb Darrin, have you seen this?

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/health/article/Texas-New-York-COVID-deaths-case-numbers-16352409.php


dp

DarrinS
08-01-2021, 12:00 PM
hey Dumb Darrin, have you seen this?

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/health/article/Texas-New-York-COVID-deaths-case-numbers-16352409.php


States by population:
California
Texas
Florida
New York


Covid deaths:
California
New York
Texas
Florida

DarrinS
08-01-2021, 12:02 PM
States by population:
California
Texas
Florida
New York


Covid deaths:
California
New York
Texas
Florida


Per 1M residents, Texas is 25 and Florida is 26

California is 32

Winehole23
08-01-2021, 12:15 PM
SnakeBoy: Texas health officials don't pooh-poohincasing hospitalization like you, are they overreacting and misleading too?


Trend forecasters at the University of Texas at Austin's COVID-19 Modeling Consortium said Wednesday that most regions of the state could see a return within a couple of weeks to the capacity-busting hospitalization rate facilities were experiencing in January — the height of the pandemic — if people don’t resume masking up and social distancing.


In Florida, hospitals (https://abc7chicago.com/florida-covid-coronavirus-hospitalization-rates-unvaccinated-people/10903372/) are already seeing the numbers of COVID patients exceeding levels they saw during the worst of the pandemic, and consortium researchers told The Texas Tribune that Texas is not far behind.


“We are absolutely on a path to hit a surge as large, if not bigger, than the previous surges right now” said Spencer Fox, associate director at the consortium. “If nothing is done, we’re on a crash course for a very large third wave.”
https://www.texastribune.org/2021/07/29/texas-covid-19-hospitals/

Winehole23
08-01-2021, 12:15 PM
States by population:
California
Texas
Florida
New York


Covid deaths:
California
New York
Texas
Floridalol parsing social murder

boutons_deux
08-01-2021, 12:58 PM
'It just went boom':

Florida ICUs swamped with younger COVID victims

Florida hospitals are being overwhelmed with COVID-19 patients (https://www.miamiherald.com/) once again in frightening numbers as the Delta variant spreads rapidly among the unvaccinated in the state.

DeSantis has resisted recommendations from health officials and refuses to mandate the wearing of masks --

recently giving parents the option of not masking up their kids returning to school.

the new flood of victims flooding in are even sicker than before -- and also younger.

"It just went boom," before adding,

"No matter how hard we work to discharge patients we know there are others coming."

the critically-ill patients they are seeing are way younger -- and way sicker -- than they were during the first wave of COVID victims.

we're now getting young people without pre-existing conditions

"People come down with it within five days and they're really sick.

They are coming to the hospital saying,

'I don't feel good. I can't breathe'.

That's when you're feeling, 'Oh, this is very different from what it was before.' "

"It's very hard for us when someone's eyes are looking at you,

staring at you, deadlocked, pleading and begging you, hugging you to help them breathe," she added.

"That's the part that stays with us. It's really hard."

https://www.alternet.org/2021/08/ron-desantis-2654336770/

DarrinS
08-01-2021, 01:05 PM
lol parsing social murder

No one is murdering anyone, dickhead.

Its a disease

boutons_deux
08-01-2021, 01:19 PM
No one is murdering anyone, dickhead.

Its a disease

MIS-governance, killing pandemic preparedeness, HCQ, ivermection, bleach, going to zero in warm April, just the flu = involuntary manslaughter and criminal reckless endangerment resulting deaths = homicide

Trash and Repugs policies, MIS-governance are homicidal. eg, not expanding Medicaid causing 10Ks of deaths compared with states that did expand.

DarrinS
08-01-2021, 01:27 PM
MIS-governance, killing pandemic preparedeness, HCQ, ivermection, bleach, going to zero in warm April, just the flu = involuntary manslaughter and criminal reckless endangerment resulting deaths = homicide

Trash and Repugs policies, MIS-governance are homicidal. eg, not expanding Medicaid causing 10Ks of deaths compared with states that did expand.


You forgot the policy of putting covid+ patients in nursing homes.

And there's nothing wrong with Ivermectin.

boutons_deux
08-01-2021, 01:38 PM
You forgot the policy of putting covid+ patients in nursing homes.

And there's nothing wrong with Ivermectin.

https://www.fda.gov/animal-veterinary/product-safety-information/faq-covid-19-and-ivermectin-intended-animals

boutons_deux
08-01-2021, 01:46 PM
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/p526x296/228989482_5380387695387574_304077955420075719_n.jp g?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=ZE9sXw2zrwUAX8PrNdH&_nc_oc=AQmVuGusHb8aHLHJ1dc_fky2Vr9GobNoy8FbskHgoRH sTACMLZ_T_Z20R78RxwCmXTE&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=4482f86628044c4d7bdcde7acb12718c&oe=612C2B5B

boutons_deux
08-01-2021, 02:03 PM
Massachusetts, too

Boston Globe email






Younger and unvaccinated: The new face
of COVID-19 hospitalizations in Massachusetts










Doctors, nurses, and their army of colleagues in Massachusetts hospitals are worried and exhausted.

The trickle of COVID-19 patients arriving at their doors a month ago has grown to a steadier stream —

up 78 percent over the last three weeks.

The faces of those infected are changing, too. No longer is the typical patient a gray-haired 70-year-old with multiple health conditions, they say.

Instead,they are seeing many 40- and 50-year-olds, some even younger, who had been healthy before becoming infected.

Many are people of color.

And 80 percent of them arenot fully vaccinated.









Racism kills

boutons_deux
08-01-2021, 02:06 PM
Jesse Watters :lol Openly Misinforms Fox News :lol Viewers :lol

By Claiming All Covid Hotspots ‘Are in Huge Democrat Cities’https://am14.mediaite.com/med/cnt/uploads/2021/07/Screen-Shot-2021-07-30-at-12.21.38-PM-1200x756.jpg

https://www.mediaite.com/opinion/jesse-watters-openly-misinforms-fox-news-viewers-by-claiming-all-covid-hotspots-are-in-huge-democratic-cities/

Blake
08-01-2021, 02:10 PM
You forgot the policy of putting covid+ patients in nursing homes.

And there's nothing wrong with Ivermectin.

NeVeR fOrGeT dEt oNe TiMe dEt CuoMo aNd tHe nuRsInG HoMe. NeVeR.

Winehole23
08-01-2021, 02:15 PM
No one is murdering anyone, dickhead.Ok, whatever you say, dumb Darrin

boutons_deux
08-01-2021, 02:30 PM
Arkansas hospital reveals alarming findings about kids and COVID-19


https://www.rawstory.com/in-children

koriwhat
08-01-2021, 02:35 PM
No one is murdering anyone, dickhead.

Its a disease

Right? These dumb regressives think they're so damn smart. Who the fuck is murdering anyone when it comes to a fucking bioweapon disease? :lmao

koriwhat
08-01-2021, 02:35 PM
Ok, whatever you say, dumb Darrin

You're literally the dumbfuck rn

ChumpDumper
08-01-2021, 02:36 PM
Arkansas hospital reveals alarming findings about kids and COVID-19


https://www.rawstory.com/in-childrenImpossible.

Darrin said children would have no problems at all.

Have they tried Ivermectin?

boutons_deux
08-01-2021, 02:53 PM
homicidal pastors, and no doubt militantly "pro life"

'You will not wear masks in this church!'

Tennessee pastor screams at congregation to 'not get vaccinated'

https://www.rawstory.com/greg-locke-vaccinations

Blake
08-01-2021, 03:02 PM
Right? These dumb regressives think they're so damn smart. Who the fuck is murdering anyone when it comes to a fucking bioweapon disease? :lmao

:lmao tats

TimDunkem
08-01-2021, 03:08 PM
^ :lmao :lmao :lmao

Winehole23
08-01-2021, 03:22 PM
Uncontrolled mass infection as a means of acquiring natural immunity entails mass suffering, disability and death -- this we already know from 2020/2021.

The Dumb Darrins and SnakeBoys of the world are cool with that because they're sociopathic.

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ElNono
08-01-2021, 03:41 PM
rules are for little people

1421767411737534469

hater

ElNono
08-01-2021, 03:53 PM
my dumbass unvaccinated cousin caught it too, started having chest pains and went to urgent care

Just found out my unvaccinated brother in law caught it as well. We've been telling him for months and months to get vaccinated, he's diabetic, had complications from that, and had at least one heart surgery. He's barely 50.

Good guy, but to feed the stereotype, Texas born living in Georgia, gullible, not a cultist but a follower, etc... smh

Hope he makes it... he sounds like shit. Another situation that was completely avoidable and instead he opted to go to the sidelines and have a talk with the good ol coach Darwin...

ElNono
08-01-2021, 03:55 PM
You forgot the policy of putting covid+ patients in nursing homes.

Whataboutism alert.

DarrinS
08-01-2021, 04:19 PM
my dumbass unvaccinated cousin caught it too, started having chest pains and went to urgent care

I don't know any unvaccinated adults.

spurraider21
08-01-2021, 05:08 PM
I don't know any unvaccinated adults.
I’m envious.

Blake
08-01-2021, 05:23 PM
I don't know any unvaccinated adults.

Muhhhh zip code

DarrinS
08-01-2021, 06:58 PM
Muhhhh zip code

Hi

Blake
08-01-2021, 07:06 PM
Hi

Lol Darrin

Spurtacular
08-01-2021, 07:12 PM
^^^

:lol "Ignoring" me for that level of convo.

:lolK

hater
08-01-2021, 07:57 PM
I don't know any unvaccinated adults.

I only know of a couple christian families that wont vax. Family friends

I respect their decision

DarrinS
08-01-2021, 08:01 PM
I only know of a couple christian families that wont vax. Family friends

I respect their decision


Thoughts and prayers

pgardn
08-01-2021, 08:28 PM
I don't know any unvaccinated adults.

You live our n Texas?
I know at least a dozen.

The most fervent against the vaccines just got it . Husband and wife from their kid. Dad is now taking up a bed. A really good guy just ignorant. No convincing him. And no regrets on his part as he thinks it would be worse if he got vaccinated.

I never knew the US was such a witch craft culture until this virus arose.

pgardn
08-01-2021, 08:29 PM
All this is just great, right in time for school

ChumpDumper
08-01-2021, 08:30 PM
People just don't like Darrin so he doesn't really know anyone outside a one barstool radius.

DarrinS
08-01-2021, 08:45 PM
People just don't like Darrin so he doesn't really know anyone outside a one barstool radius.

Nope.

Family and friends across a dozen+ states.

Blake
08-01-2021, 08:49 PM
Nope.

Family and friends across a dozen+ states.

Why is you not knowing anyone without the vaccine important here?

baseline bum
08-01-2021, 08:56 PM
Just found out my unvaccinated brother in law caught it as well. We've been telling him for months and months to get vaccinated, he's diabetic, had complications from that, and had at least one heart surgery. He's barely 50.

Good guy, but to feed the stereotype, Texas born living in Georgia, gullible, not a cultist but a follower, etc... smh

Hope he makes it... he sounds like shit. Another situation that was completely avoidable and instead he opted to go to the sidelines and have a talk with the good ol coach Darwin...

He needs to monitor his oxygen. When my brother got it my mom asked her doctor when you start getting in the danger zone and he said when blood oxygen is below 92%. Below 92% is probably hospital time.

TSA
08-01-2021, 09:09 PM
All this is just great, right in time for school

https://mobile.twitter.com/justin_hart/status/1421937708713189376

TSA
08-01-2021, 09:12 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/DrScottBalsitis/status/1421869352853196805

DarrinS
08-01-2021, 09:13 PM
Why is you not knowing anyone without the vaccine important here?

As a non-Biden voter, all of my friends and family are supposedly anti-vax.

That's the narrative.

pgardn
08-01-2021, 09:14 PM
Why is you not knowing anyone without the vaccine important here?

Its important to me as I know a number who are NOT vaccinated and proud of it in Texas.
I do get out a lot but I thought most people in Texas would know people in the double digit range that are unvaccinated.
Our State is not a mecca of sanity.

boutons_deux
08-01-2021, 09:15 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/DrScottBalsitis/status/1421869352853196805

88% vax in San Mateo county? of course, he can say "move on" in that extreme outlier county

is that his same advice for the rest of America?

DarrinS
08-01-2021, 09:19 PM
Its important to me as I know a number who are NOT vaccinated and proud of it in Texas.
I do get out a lot but I thought most people in Texas would know people in the double digit range that are unvaccinated.
Our State is not a mecca of sanity.


Bexar county pushing 70% fully vaccinated 18+.

Blake
08-01-2021, 09:19 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/DrScottBalsitis/status/1421869352853196805

The usual nut job responses just like last year

pgardn
08-01-2021, 09:20 PM
The basic message for TSA is dont miss pumpkin festivals.
These courageous Patriotic events SHALL go on dammit.

Blake
08-01-2021, 09:20 PM
As a non-Biden voter, all of my friends and family are supposedly anti-vax.

That's the narrative.

That's your anecdote. I don't know why you keep posting these anecdotes as if they mean something. They don't.

DarrinS
08-01-2021, 09:23 PM
That's your anecdote. I don't know why you keep posting these anecdotes as if they mean something. They don't.

I don't know why you post at all.

pgardn
08-01-2021, 09:24 PM
Bexar county pushing 70% fully vaccinated 18+.

Yeah the couple I just id got it from their 13 yo daughter.
Imagine young people wanting to get together during all this shit. And then dont vaccinate them.

And Bexar county is doing a good job overall, ESPECIALLY RECENTLY as the caseload has risen so dramatically.
But go to the right parts of Bexar county (other than your zipcode) and you WILL find the pockets of unvaccinated and proud of it.

TSA
08-01-2021, 09:24 PM
The usual nut job responses just like last year

What’s nut job about that response? Be specific.

ChumpDumper
08-01-2021, 09:25 PM
Nope.

Family and friends across a dozen+ states.Is there no status you won't try to brag about, Darrin?

TSA
08-01-2021, 09:26 PM
I don't know why you post at all.

Covid broke Blake. His “contributions” now are Derp level nothing more.

DarrinS
08-01-2021, 09:26 PM
Yeah the couple I just id got it from their 13 yo daughter.
Imagine young people wanting to get together during all this shit. And then dont vaccinate them.

And Bexar county is doing a good job overall, ESPECIALLY RECENTLY as the caseload has risen so dramatically.
But go to the right parts of Bexar county (other than your zipcode) and you WILL find the pockets of unvaccinated and proud of it.


Whole city has high vax rates, as far as I can tell.

ChumpDumper
08-01-2021, 09:27 PM
Covid broke Blake. His “contributions” now are Derp level nothing more.Satanic panic broke you a long time ago.

DarrinS
08-01-2021, 09:28 PM
Is there no status you won't try to brag about, Darrin?

Having friends and family across multiple states is bragging? :lol

Adam Lambert
08-01-2021, 09:28 PM
As a non-Biden voter, all of my friends and family are supposedly anti-vax.

That's the narrative.

That's your strawman.

The facts, though, are that people refusing to get vaccinated are disproportionately Republican.

https://0-im--media-voltron-voanews-com-0.cdn.ampproject.org/ii/AW/s/im-media.voltron.voanews.com/Drupal/01live-166/styles/sourced_737px_wide/s3/2021-07/racev3-01.png

If that reality is inconvenient for you, it would be more productive to sack up and criticize your side for once in your life instead of whining when the other side points it out.

TSA
08-01-2021, 09:30 PM
The basic message for TSA is dont miss pumpkin festivals.
These courageous Patriotic events SHALL go on dammit.

You even suck at sarcasm.

TSA
08-01-2021, 09:31 PM
That's your strawman.

The facts, though, are that people refusing to get vaccinated are disproportionately Republican.

https://0-im--media-voltron-voanews-com-0.cdn.ampproject.org/ii/AW/s/im-media.voltron.voanews.com/Drupal/01live-166/styles/sourced_737px_wide/s3/2021-07/racev3-01.png

If that reality is inconvenient for you, it would be more productive to sack up and criticize your side for once in your life instead of whining when the other side points it out.

How is “wait and see” at this point not refusing?

ChumpDumper
08-01-2021, 09:33 PM
Having friends and family across multiple states is bragging? :lolTheir vax status.

Your county's vax status.

Your hipster infection.

Etc.

DarrinS
08-01-2021, 09:34 PM
That's your strawman.

The facts, though, are that people refusing to get vaccinated are disproportionately Republican.

If that reality is inconvenient for you, it would be more productive to sack up and criticize your side for once in your life instead of whining when the other side points it out.


I don't care who doesn't get vaccinated.

You vaccinate to protect the individual.

DarrinS
08-01-2021, 09:35 PM
Their vax status.

Your county's vax status.

Your hipster infection.

Etc.

Wtf?

ChumpDumper
08-01-2021, 09:35 PM
I don't care who doesn't get vaccinated.

You vaccinate to protect the individual.
Here you go trying to tell people why they chose to get vaccinated.

What is with your ego, dude?

pgardn
08-01-2021, 09:36 PM
Whole city has high vax rates, as far as I can tell.

Bexar county has good vax rates as of recently. These of course are NOT evenly dense.
Im telling you their are some places in Bexar county, rich and poor, that dont have near that rate.
I mean you would expect it.

In Portland there was a whole neighborhood of anitvaccer moms that got their kids together for a measles party. A part of Portland that was NOTABLY liberal. This borders on child abuse imo. Getting the measles later in life makes it much more likely that other body systems will malfunction LATER in life. We know this correlation now. And they still did it.

And it pretty clear we agree people should get vaccinated. Its also pretty clear large clusters of people still refuse and drive this current wave of passing on a more contagious variant. So we have dense regions or clusters of non vaccinated people to produce more variants rapidly. This is another misconception concerning vaccination rates. They can be high, but if the antivaccers are not spread EVENLY through a vaccinated population... It ruins the basic strategy for controlling spread and variants forming.

ChumpDumper
08-01-2021, 09:36 PM
Wtf?I think I got it before it was a thing!

pgardn
08-01-2021, 09:36 PM
I don't care who doesn't get vaccinated.

You vaccinate to protect the individual.

No WE dont.
From a population point of view WE vaccinate large groups, because evolution thru natural selection works on POPULATIONS, not individuals. This is a dual approach, that you might start to understand if businesses start asking you to mask again in YOUR HEB.

Or maybe your kids just need to go to school once a week again or whatever.

Adam Lambert
08-01-2021, 09:37 PM
How is “wait and see” at this point not refusing?

I have no patience for either group but one of the two is clearly more "anti-vax" than the other.

Guessing that same group is also more likely to spread and consume ridiculous vaccine disinformation.

Adam Lambert
08-01-2021, 09:38 PM
I don't care who doesn't get vaccinated.

You vaccinate to protect the individual.

Now you're changing the subject because you're afraid of any information that supports your side being disproportionately stupid.

And you're still wrong. But we've been over this already and I don't really feel like wasting my time telling you how vaccines work again. I'm just glad you got one instead of going full retard in support of the team.

DarrinS
08-01-2021, 09:39 PM
I think I got it before it was a thing!

Antibody tests are a thing. Look into it.

DarrinS
08-01-2021, 09:40 PM
Now you're changing the subject because you're afraid of any information that supports your side being disproportionately stupid.


I know that Hispanic and blacks are disproportionately under vaccinated.

ChumpDumper
08-01-2021, 09:41 PM
Antibody tests are a thing. Look into it.:lol bragging about infections

Adam Lambert
08-01-2021, 09:43 PM
I know that Hispanic and blacks are disproportionately under vaccinated.

Now you're changing the subject to ethnicity even though the chart specifically breaks it out by party loyalty.

Did you know that a lot of Hispanics are Republicans, Darrin? I guess it depends on the topic at hand as to whether you will want to admit that.

TSA
08-01-2021, 09:44 PM
Bexar county has good vax rates as of recently. These of course are NOT evenly dense.
Im telling you their are some places in Bexar county, rich and poor, that dont have near that rate.
I mean you would expect it.

In Portland there was a whole neighborhood of anitvaccer moms that got their kids together for a measles party. A part of Portland that was NOTABLY liberal. This borders on child abuse imo. Getting the measles later in life makes it much more likely that other body systems will malfunction LATER in life. We know this correlation now. And they still did it.

And it pretty clear we agree people should get vaccinated. Its also pretty clear large clusters of people still refuse and drive this current wave of passing on a more contagious variant. So we have dense regions or clusters of non vaccinated people to produce more variants rapidly. This is another misconception concerning vaccination rates. They can be high, but if the antivaccers are not spread EVENLY through a vaccinated population... It ruins the basic strategy for controlling spread and variants forming.

What does mass vaccination in the middle of a pandemic do to variants?

pgardn
08-01-2021, 09:46 PM
You even suck at sarcasm.

Ouch...

I guess there is no need to bother correcting your purposely disingenuous, and flat out retarded theories anymore...

TSA
08-01-2021, 09:47 PM
I have no patience for either group but one of the two is clearly more "anti-vax" than the other.

Guessing that same group is also more likely to spread and consume ridiculous vaccine disinformation.

Do you root for both groups to die from Covid or just one?

TSA
08-01-2021, 09:48 PM
Ouch...

I guess there is no need to bother correcting your purposely disingenuous, and flat out retarded theories anymore...

Can you run your smallpox/DTAP theories by me once more lol.

pgardn
08-01-2021, 09:49 PM
What does mass vaccination in the middle of a pandemic do to variants?

It will eventually lead to the production of variants/mutations becoming a much less likely occurrence.

What does having pockets of clusters of unvaccinated people do to the likelihood of producing variants and mutations?

TSA
08-01-2021, 09:50 PM
Now you're changing the subject to ethnicity even though the chart specifically breaks it out by party loyalty.

Did you know that a lot of Hispanics are Republicans, Darrin? I guess it depends on the topic at hand as to whether you will want to admit that.

Side stepping blacks :lol

Adam Lambert
08-01-2021, 09:51 PM
Do you root for both groups to die from Covid or just one?

Just one. :tu

TSA
08-01-2021, 09:51 PM
It will eventually lead to the production of variants/mutations becoming a much less likely occurrence.You sure about that? I’ve read very differently from much more in the know people.

TSA
08-01-2021, 09:52 PM
Just one. :tu

Appreciate the honesty :tu

pgardn
08-01-2021, 09:55 PM
Can you run your smallpox/DTAP theories by me once more lol.

Yes.
There was no gigantic social media machine where stupid people could follow Qanon and actually cause other people to believe that certain political parties kidnapped and ate kids. In other words, disinformation, on things like vaccinations, did not travel nearly as rapidly as a virus. Now... not so much.

I like your lol at my (read others) clearer reasoning. I know thats a problem for people like you wanting zombies to exist. You need a to read about Polio and Small pox again. You never gave me your timeline. You were very careful in your evidence when you brought up feasting on children. Do that again.

DarrinS
08-01-2021, 09:55 PM
No WE dont.
From a population point of view WE vaccinate large groups, because evolution thru natural selection works on POPULATIONS, not individuals. This is a dual approach, that you might start to understand if businesses start asking you to mask again in YOUR HEB.

Or maybe your kids just need to go to school once a week again or whatever.



Its not a sterilizing immunity.


Here you go. At 1:35



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qnfj-4RNmQ

Adam Lambert
08-01-2021, 09:55 PM
Side stepping blacks :lol

It would be stupid to say a lot of blacks are Republicans.

There's literally a Democrat and Republican breakout on the chart. Why are you and Darrin trying to infer that vaccine refusal by party is more accurately depicted by the racial breakout than the party breakout?

Ef-man
08-01-2021, 09:55 PM
You sure about that? I’ve read very differently from much more in the know people.

Source links?

Adam Lambert
08-01-2021, 09:57 PM
Appreciate the honesty :tu

Honesty good now :tu

ChumpDumper
08-01-2021, 09:58 PM
Whole city has high vax rates, as far as I can tell.How is it for the entire TSA you're in?

pgardn
08-01-2021, 09:59 PM
You sure about that? I’ve read very differently from much more in the know people.

I am absolutely sure of it.
Its common sense.

LARGE POPULATIONS that REPRODUCE very rapidly are much more likely to evolve than smaller slower reproducing populations. Can you please explain why there are far more bacterial species that any other type of organism NOW on the face of the earth and have been since the earth first "witnessed" these cells?

You propose the above to your "people in the know" and tell me their response please.

pgardn
08-01-2021, 10:02 PM
Its not a sterilizing immunity.


Here you go. At 1:35



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qnfj-4RNmQ

This has zero to do with what I am saying.
And tell me what sterilizing immunity means and I will show the problem.

DarrinS
08-01-2021, 10:02 PM
If vaccinated people are getting infected and spreading covid, you're losing the "moral high ground" argument against the unvaccinated.

pgardn
08-01-2021, 10:03 PM
Yes.
There was no gigantic social media machine where stupid people could follow Qanon and actually cause other people to believe that certain political parties kidnapped and ate kids. In other words, disinformation, on things like vaccinations, did not travel nearly as rapidly as a virus. Now... not so much.

I like your lol at my (read others) clearer reasoning. I know thats a problem for people like you wanting zombies to exist. You need a to read about Polio and Small pox again. You never gave me your timeline. You were very careful in your evidence when you brought up feasting on children. Do that again.

Darrin needs to read this as well.

ChumpDumper
08-01-2021, 10:04 PM
If vaccinated people are getting infected and spreading covid, you're losing the "moral high ground" argument against the unvaccinated.What percentage of vaccinated individuals have been infected, Darrin?

Let's look at your numbers.

~165,000,000 fully vaccinated in the US.

How many breakthrough infections do you have right now?

Adam Lambert
08-01-2021, 10:05 PM
If vaccinated people are getting infected and spreading covid, you're losing the "moral high ground" argument against the unvaccinated.

If people are getting into car accidents while sober you're losing the "moral high ground" argument against drunk drivers.

You are seriously dangerously stupid and I hope you stay home a lot.

DarrinS
08-01-2021, 10:09 PM
I am absolutely sure of it.
Its common sense.

LARGE POPULATIONS that REPRODUCE very rapidly are much more likely to evolve than smaller slower reproducing populations. Can you please explain why there are far more bacterial species that any other type of organism NOW on the face of the earth and have been since the earth first "witnessed" these cells?

You propose the above to your "people in the know" and tell me their response please.



I'm not really sure I understood your post, but delta grew out of India. Those people have some of the best immune systems in the world, since they're exposed to so many pathogens. From an evolutionary point of view, makes sense why a strong variant emerged from that country.

DarrinS
08-01-2021, 10:09 PM
If people are getting into car accidents while sober you're losing the "moral high ground" argument against drunk drivers.

You are seriously dangerously stupid and I hope you stay home a lot.


You thought this was a smart post.

pgardn
08-01-2021, 10:10 PM
If vaccinated people are getting infected and spreading covid, you're losing the "moral high ground" argument against the unvaccinated.

No you do not get it.
The Unvaccinated have ALLOWED for this new variant that is much more infectious to arise, not the vaccinated.
And there is no morality in this. This is how life works. The real moral problem is people inventing total BS about the vaccine that has cause the real problem in this country. And also the lack of a Worldwide response to this problem beginning with America first shit when this broke out. As well as China NOT sharing what they knew about the virus until way late.

TSA
08-01-2021, 10:11 PM
Yes.
There was no gigantic social media machine where stupid people could follow Qanon and actually cause other people to believe that certain political parties kidnapped and ate kids. In other words, disinformation, on things like vaccinations, did not travel nearly as rapidly as a virus. Now... not so much.

I like your lol at my (read others) clearer reasoning. I know thats a problem for people like you wanting zombies to exist. You need a to read about Polio and Small pox again. You never gave me your timeline. You were very careful in your evidence when you brought up feasting on children. Do that again.

I told you that you could pick any timeline you wanted. Has it never occurred to you that resistance to a vaccine could be directly tied to CFR and the younger not at risk populations just aren’t worried about dying from Covid?

DarrinS
08-01-2021, 10:11 PM
Darrin needs to read this as well.


Search for my Q-anon posts.

Good luck.

DarrinS
08-01-2021, 10:12 PM
No you do not get it.
The Unvaccinated have ALLOWED for this new variant that is much more infectious to arise, not the vaccinated.
And there is no morality in this. This is how life works. The real moral problem is people inventing total BS about the vaccine that has cause the real problem in this country. And also the lack of a Worldwide response to this problem beginning with America first shit when this broke out. As well as China NOT sharing what they knew about the virus until way late.


Vaccinated people are spreading covid. End of discussion

Adam Lambert
08-01-2021, 10:12 PM
You thought this was a smart post.

Smart implies it exceeds basic common sense, I would never suggest as much but sometimes you have to speak at the level of your audience.

It's incredible that after a year and a half, you still don't understand how any of this works. Not surprising seeing as a year ago you still thought this thing was an overblown flu. It would be better for the health of the nation if people like you would just shut the fuck up.

TSA
08-01-2021, 10:13 PM
It would be stupid to say a lot of blacks are Republicans.

There's literally a Democrat and Republican breakout on the chart. Why are you and Darrin trying to infer that vaccine refusal by party is more accurately depicted by the racial breakout than the party breakout?

I never infected that and no need to explain further. You’ve made it clear you just wish death on others based on party affiliation :tu

Adam Lambert
08-01-2021, 10:14 PM
Vaccinated people are spreading covid. End of discussion

:lmao "Please end this discussion because I've got nothing"

pgardn
08-01-2021, 10:14 PM
I'm not really sure I understood your post, but delta grew out of India. Those people have some of the best immune systems in the world, since they're exposed to so many pathogens. From an evolutionary point of view, makes sense why a strong variant emerged from that country.

India had almost no cases in the beginning?
And the strain that did run rampant through India WAS the strain WE made our current vaccine to counteract. THEN the variant evolved. And the variant SURFACED in India, was found in because it spread very rapidly, that does NOT mean where it started. That is where they first found it. Just like we first found the virus in China, but most likely was in animal(s) first.

DarrinS
08-01-2021, 10:16 PM
Smart implies it exceeds basic common sense, I would never suggest as much but sometimes you have to speak at the level of your audience.

It's incredible that after a year and a half, you still don't understand how any of this works. Not surprising seeing as a year ago you still thought this thing was an overblown flu. It would be better for the health of the nation if people like you would just shut the fuck up.


I've both had covid and twice vaxxed.

My actual infection was a nothingburger.

Carry on "Adam"

ChumpDumper
08-01-2021, 10:16 PM
Vaccinated people are spreading covid. End of discussionHow many breakthrough infections, Darrin?

~165,000,000 fully vaccinated in the US.

How many have spread COVID?

Let's discuss if you're not afraid of the numbers.

Adam Lambert
08-01-2021, 10:16 PM
I never infected that and no need to explain further. You’ve made it clear you just wish death on others based on party affiliation :tu

Not just party affiliation. I'm good with Republicans who are vaccinated and who cared enough about the future of this country not to vote for Donald Trump or spread garbage conspiracy theories on his behalf. :tu

Adam Lambert
08-01-2021, 10:16 PM
I've both had covid and twice vaxxed.

My actual infection was a nothingburger.

Carry on "Adam"

"I"
"My"

You're a narcissistic piece of shit.

DarrinS
08-01-2021, 10:17 PM
Not just party affiliation. I'm good with Republicans who are vaccinated and who cared enough about the future of this country not to vote for Donald Trump or spread garbage conspiracy theories on his behalf. :tu


What about "muh Russia"? :lol

pgardn
08-01-2021, 10:17 PM
Vaccinated people are spreading covid. End of discussion

Yep.
Pure unadulterated conservative.
I will conserve my thinking to what my thinking originally was when I was a spoiled child.
This is our new Trump conservative.

DarrinS
08-01-2021, 10:19 PM
"I"
"My"

You're a narcissistic piece of shit.


And, you're a twit, "spurminator".

Seriously, that alt is just sad.

TSA
08-01-2021, 10:19 PM
I am absolutely sure of it.
Its common sense.

LARGE POPULATIONS that REPRODUCE very rapidly are much more likely to evolve than smaller slower reproducing populations. Can you please explain why there are far more bacterial species that any other type of organism NOW on the face of the earth and have been since the earth first "witnessed" these cells?

You propose the above to your "people in the know" and tell me their response please.

The current expansion in prevalence of infectious Sars-CoV-2 variants is highly problematic because it erodes natural Ab-based, variant-nonspecific immunity in the non-vaccinated part of the population. The high infectivity rate that results from this expansion not only further enhances the expansion of these variants but may also drive natural selection of viral variants that are featured by an even higher level of infectiousness. Erosion, therefore, of natural Ab-based, variant-nonspecific immunity promotes breeding and transmission of more infectious viral variants in the non-vaccinated part of the population. On the other hand, mass vaccination promotes natural selection of increasingly vaccine immunity (VI)-escaping variants in the vaccinated part of the population. Taken together, mass vaccination conducted on a background of high infectivity rates enables more infectious, increasingly VI-escaping variants to expand in prevalence. This evolution inevitably results in inclining morbidity rates in both, the non-vaccinated and vaccinated population and precipitates the emergence of circulating viral variants that will eventually fully resist vaccine-mediated immunity (VMI). This is why mass vaccination campaigns should not be conducted during a pandemic of a highly mutable virus, let alone during a pandemic of more infectious variants (unless transmission-blocking vaccines are used!). It is critical to understand that a rapid decline in viral infectivity rates that is not achieved by natural infection but merely results from expedited mass vaccination campaigns will only delay abrupt propagation of emerging, fully vaccine-resistant viral variants and hence, only delay the occurrence of a high wave of morbidity and mortality. In contrast, mass vaccination campaigns that are progressing more slowly, especially when conducted on a background of relatively low infectious pressure, will result in a steadily growing propagation of increasingly VI-escaping variants and hence, cause a wave of morbidity and mortality that continues to grow bigger and larger as more and more people become vaccinated. It’s only when fully vaccine-resistant viral variants will become dominant that this wave will start to peak.

https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/post/a-last-word-of-caution-to-all-those-pretending-the-covid-19-pandemic-is-toning-down

Adam Lambert
08-01-2021, 10:20 PM
Not just party affiliation. I'm good with Republicans who are vaccinated and who cared enough about the future of this country not to vote for Donald Trump or spread garbage conspiracy theories on his behalf. :tu

By the way there are Democrats on the side of the chart showing people who refuse to take the vaccine under any circumstances, and I'm cool with them croaking too. So it's not really about party affiliation at all.

DarrinS
08-01-2021, 10:20 PM
Yep.
Pure unadulterated conservative.
I will conserve my thinking to what my thinking originally was when I was a spoiled child.
This is our new Trump conservative.

Did you have a stroke?

I thought you guys liked data?

Adam Lambert
08-01-2021, 10:21 PM
What about "muh Russia"? :lol

Russiagate is comparable to Benghazi. It's not comparable to pizza gate and stolen elections. I'm sorry that's inconvenient for you.

DarrinS
08-01-2021, 10:21 PM
By the way there are Democrats on the side of the chart showing people who refuse to take the vaccine under any circumstances, and I'm cool with them croaking too. So it's not really about party affiliation at all.


I'm not cool with anyone croaking. You are a garbage person.

ChumpDumper
08-01-2021, 10:21 PM
Did you have a stroke?

I thought you guys liked data?I keep asking you for data.

~165,000,000 fully vaccinated in the US.

How many breakthrough infections?

Let's see your data.

If you like the data, I guess.

TSA
08-01-2021, 10:22 PM
Vaccinated people are spreading covid. End of discussion

Unfortunately we won’t know at what rate because of the cost to the CDC :lol

Adam Lambert
08-01-2021, 10:22 PM
And, you're a twit, "spurminator".

Seriously, that alt is just sad.

You really have trouble sticking to a topic, don't you?

I'm serious, you need to really reflect on the fact that we are talking about a pandemic that has killed over 600,000 people and you can't see past your own experience with the virus. That is some unbelievably selfish shit.

DarrinS
08-01-2021, 10:24 PM
India had almost no cases in the beginning?
And the strain that did run rampant through India WAS the strain WE made our current vaccine to counteract. THEN the variant evolved. And the variant SURFACED in India, was found in because it spread very rapidly, that does NOT mean where it started. That is where they first found it. Just like we first found the virus in China, but most likely was in animal(s) first.


For fucks sake, what?

pgardn
08-01-2021, 10:24 PM
I told you that you could pick any timeline you wanted. Has it never occurred to you that resistance to a vaccine could be directly tied to CFR and the younger not at risk populations just aren’t worried about dying from Covid?

And I picked the long time line of both of these. A timeline when people did NOT go on places like Qanon spreading rumors that these vaccines killed people (and they did) at a very significant rate.

What is resistance to a vaccine mean to you? please explain.

TSA
08-01-2021, 10:24 PM
Not just party affiliation. I'm good with Republicans who are vaccinated and who cared enough about the future of this country not to vote for Donald Trump or spread garbage conspiracy theories on his behalf. :tu

So mark you down for wishing death on anyone who hasn’t been vaccinated? :tu

Adam Lambert
08-01-2021, 10:25 PM
I'm not cool with anyone croaking. You are a garbage person.

You clearly are cool with it. Every time we bring up deaths, you're like "well they're old or fat" or whatever and remind us how you courageously didn't succumb to it.

pgardn
08-01-2021, 10:26 PM
For fucks sake, what?

Exactly.
You remember the both of us wondering wtf was happening in India in the beginning? Their lack of cases.
No.
YOU dont.

YOU have not a fkn clue how these viruses spread and alter, zero, none.

Adam Lambert
08-01-2021, 10:26 PM
So mark you down for wishing death on anyone who hasn’t been vaccinated? :tu

Not what I said. :tu
This is very important to you. :tu

TSA
08-01-2021, 10:27 PM
And I picked the long time line of both of these. A timeline when people did NOT go on places like Qanon spreading rumors that these vaccines killed people (and they did) at a very significant rate.

What is resistance to a vaccine mean to you? please explain.

You still don’t get it. Those diseases killed people at a very significant rate, Covid doesn’t.

DarrinS
08-01-2021, 10:27 PM
You clearly are cool with it. Every time we bring up deaths, you're like "well they're old or fat" or whatever and remind us how you courageously didn't succumb to it.


Its an inflammatory disease. Read up

TSA
08-01-2021, 10:29 PM
This is very important for you. :tu

Sure? Was just curious who you were wishing death on and you’ve made it clear now :tu

Adam Lambert
08-01-2021, 10:29 PM
Its an inflammatory disease. Read up

It's a virus. It's highly transmittable. It kills people. Vaccines help prevent the spread. Republicans disproportionately refuse vaccines. You defend Republicans despite apparently understanding the value of a vaccine enough to get one yourself. You are a chickenshit narcissist.

Adam Lambert
08-01-2021, 10:30 PM
Sure? Was just curious who you were wishing death on and you’ve made it clear now :tu

Doesn't seem like you're all that clear, but I really don't give a shit. I'm not going to waste a lot of time giving you a sincere answer on anything when you've shown very little interest in the truth.

pgardn
08-01-2021, 10:30 PM
The current expansion in prevalence of infectious Sars-CoV-2 variants is highly problematic because it erodes natural Ab-based, variant-nonspecific immunity in the non-vaccinated part of the population. The high infectivity rate that results from this expansion not only further enhances the expansion of these variants but may also drive natural selection of viral variants that are featured by an even higher level of infectiousness. Erosion, therefore, of natural Ab-based, variant-nonspecific immunity promotes breeding and transmission of more infectious viral variants in the non-vaccinated part of the population. On the other hand, mass vaccination promotes natural selection of increasingly vaccine immunity (VI)-escaping variants in the vaccinated part of the population. Taken together, mass vaccination conducted on a background of high infectivity rates enables more infectious, increasingly VI-escaping variants to expand in prevalence. This evolution inevitably results in inclining morbidity rates in both, the non-vaccinated and vaccinated population and precipitates the emergence of circulating viral variants that will eventually fully resist vaccine-mediated immunity (VMI). This is why mass vaccination campaigns should not be conducted during a pandemic of a highly mutable virus, let alone during a pandemic of more infectious variants (unless transmission-blocking vaccines are used!). It is critical to understand that a rapid decline in viral infectivity rates that is not achieved by natural infection but merely results from expedited mass vaccination campaigns will only delay abrupt propagation of emerging, fully vaccine-resistant viral variants and hence, only delay the occurrence of a high wave of morbidity and mortality. In contrast, mass vaccination campaigns that are progressing more slowly, especially when conducted on a background of relatively low infectious pressure, will result in a steadily growing propagation of increasingly VI-escaping variants and hence, cause a wave of morbidity and mortality that continues to grow bigger and larger as more and more people become vaccinated. It’s only when fully vaccine-resistant viral variants will become dominant that this wave will start to peak.

https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/post/a-last-word-of-caution-to-all-those-pretending-the-covid-19-pandemic-is-toning-down

I already bolded 3 different parts of this FOR YOU and told you why this was a huge stretch and why this virologist does not get his weak points, especially EVOLUTION thru NATURAL selection.

Would you please go back and bring my response to this.

Blake
08-01-2021, 10:30 PM
I don't know why you post at all.

I'll tell you. I post here for entertainment and edification. This conversation is somewhat entertaining

DarrinS
08-01-2021, 10:31 PM
It's a virus. It's highly transmittable. It kills people. Vaccines help prevent the spread. Republicans disproportionately refuse vaccines. You defend Republicans despite apparently understanding the value of a vaccine enough to get one yourself. You are a chickenshit narcissist.


The virus doesn't kill you. Your body does. Read up

Adam Lambert
08-01-2021, 10:34 PM
The virus doesn't kill you. Your body does. Read up


You thought this was a smart post.

ChumpDumper
08-01-2021, 10:35 PM
The virus doesn't kill you. Your body does. Read upClip vs. magazine argumentation; i.e., stalling.

You get that breakthrough infection data yet, Darrin?

Or data bad now?

pgardn
08-01-2021, 10:38 PM
You still don’t get it. Those diseases killed people at a very significant rate, Covid doesn’t.

You still dont get that the pure number of people killed by COVID is huge because not only are we a very large population. Lying and disinformation ran as rampant as the virus did.

You also dont get that the reason this virus spread so rapidly around the world is because of huge disinformation campaigns in a number of countries concerning the vaccine when we found it, and other ridiculous psuedo cures. YOU were part of a group that participated in disinformation campaigns so you dont want to think about the fact this can be harmful to people in a Population.

1. Masks are for sissies, YOU are infringing upon my RIGHTS.
2. the vaccine is highly unsafe

pgardn
08-01-2021, 10:39 PM
The virus doesn't kill you. Your body does. Read up

Oh christ...

We are back to this again...

Fruitless.
"I choose to be ignorant" Darrin.

Adam Lambert
08-01-2021, 10:40 PM
Alcoholism won't kill Darrin. His liver will.

TSA
08-01-2021, 10:41 PM
I already bolded 3 different parts of this FOR YOU and told you why this was a huge stretch and why this virologist does not get his weak points, especially EVOLUTION thru NATURAL selection.

Would you please go back and bring my response to this.

No need to. Already responded to your bolded responses the first time. I don’t call you replying to those. Would you please go back and bring up your responses to those.

TSA
08-01-2021, 10:42 PM
Sure? Was just curious who you were wishing death on and you’ve made it clear now :tu

You’ve been clear enough tonight you are just a shit person :tu

TSA
08-01-2021, 10:46 PM
You still dont get that the pure number of people killed by COVID is huge because not only are we a very large population. Lying and disinformation ran as rampant as the virus did.

You also dont get that the reason this virus spread so rapidly around the world is because of huge disinformation campaigns in a number of countries concerning the vaccine when we found it, and other ridiculous psuedo cures. YOU were part of a group that participated in disinformation campaigns so you dont want to think about the fact this can be harmful to people in a Population.

1. Masks are for sissies, YOU are infringing upon my RIGHTS.
2. the vaccine is highly unsafe

The only place I post anything online is here.

1. Masks don’t work for this virus as I’ve repeatedly shown. Find me an RCT trial that says otherwise.

2. I never said the vaccine is highly unsafe in fact I’ve said it works.

Any more bullshit you want to spew?

Adam Lambert
08-01-2021, 10:47 PM
You’ve been clear enough tonight you are just a shit person :tu

Keep clutching your pearls. You've been on the front lines of the war against truth for 5 years, so you are a direct contributor to those statistics and you've killed more of them than I ever will.

pgardn
08-01-2021, 10:49 PM
No need to. Already responded to your bolded responses the first time. I don’t call you replying to those. Would you please go back and bring up your responses to those.

Ok find both my post and yours and I will go over it again.
I will now get a shower. Go.

Adam Lambert
08-01-2021, 10:50 PM
"You're a bad person for being okay with these people dying" says the guy who has dedicated 5 years of spare time to the same disinformation campaigns that have millions of those people believing the vaccines are microchips. :lmao

hater
08-01-2021, 10:52 PM
Fucking Trumptards :pctoss

https://twitter.com/hinklecolin/status/1421300690916454402?s=19

hater
08-01-2021, 10:52 PM
https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1421876407454502913?s=19

hater
08-01-2021, 10:56 PM
https://twitter.com/justin_2826/status/1421818368483549194?s=19

hater
08-01-2021, 10:59 PM
:lmao

Lightfoot just killed a whole bunch of grandmas

Fucking indian assassin

"Organizers claimed on the festival’s opening day, Friday, that 90% of attendees had shown proof of vaccinations."

:lmao thats not how it works :lol

TSA
08-01-2021, 11:04 PM
Keep clutching your pearls. You've been on the front lines of the war against truth for 5 years, so you are a direct contributor to those statistics and you've killed more of them than I ever will.

How did I directly contribute to killing whott?

TSA
08-01-2021, 11:05 PM
Ok find both my post and yours and I will go over it again.
I will now get a shower. Go.

I have no need to find your post I already responded to, that’s on you. Go.

pgardn
08-01-2021, 11:06 PM
The only place I post anything online is here.

1. Masks don’t work for this virus as I’ve repeatedly shown. Find me an RCT trial that says otherwise.

2. I never said the vaccine is highly unsafe in fact I’ve said it works.

Any more bullshit you want to spew?

You found your totally BS facts about democrats eating children on a site called q anon.
This was ALSO one of the sites that was posting absolutely disgraceful BS on masks and vaccines.
Are you know acknowledging this site is full of shit and you got taken by a totally bizarre site?

TSA
08-01-2021, 11:08 PM
"You're a bad person for being okay with these people dying" says the guy who has dedicated 5 years of spare time to the same disinformation campaigns that have millions of those people believing the vaccines are microchips. :lmao

You said you aren’t wasting any more of your time discussing you being a piece of shit yet here you are again trying to defend yourself :lol

Winehole23
08-01-2021, 11:08 PM
Reposting Alex Berenson is a hard self-own.

Winehole23
08-01-2021, 11:10 PM
Geert Van Den Bossche, same.

TSA
08-01-2021, 11:11 PM
You found your totally BS facts about democrats eating children on a site called q anon.
This was ALSO one of the sites that was posting absolutely disgraceful BS on masks and vaccines.
Are you know acknowledging this site is full of shit and you got taken by a totally bizarre site?

1. I was never on a site called q anon.

2. Masks don’t work for this virus as I’ve repeatedly shown. Find me an RCT trial that says otherwise.

3. I never said the vaccine is highly unsafe in fact I’ve said it works.

4. Posting from a shower?

ChumpDumper
08-01-2021, 11:12 PM
Reposting Alex Berenson is a hard self-own.


Geert Van Den Bossche, same.

James w:lol:lolds

pgardn
08-01-2021, 11:12 PM
You found your totally BS facts about democrats eating children on a site called q anon.
This was ALSO one of the sites that was posting absolutely disgraceful BS on masks and vaccines.
Are you know acknowledging this site is full of shit and you got taken by a totally bizarre site?

And sorry masks do work in the prevention of getting this airborne virus in closed in places with lots of virus in the air.
They are not totally fullproof. You ARE STILL full of shit. Of course you can still get the virus and accompanying symptoms by sitting in a car with people who are infected and giving off large viral loads over a long period time.

The masks absolutely work in mitigating and PREVENTING under short term exposure smaller viral loads WHICH IS WHAT ONE would typically get in the settings they are asked to be used for. STores, shorter airplane flights, airports...
One viral particle is much smaller that almost any filter could handle. But millions of airborne viruses in a droplet of water are absolutely going to find it very difficult to get through a mask. And thats how these viruses are spread, NOT one particle at a time. Millions in droplets.

Adam Lambert
08-01-2021, 11:12 PM
You said you aren’t wasting any more of your time discussing you being a piece of shit yet here you are again trying to defend yourself :lol

I said I'm not going to waste my time giving you a sincere answer because you're not interested in the truth. I never said I wouldn't correct you or call you out for being a dishonest piece of shit. :tu

ChumpDumper
08-01-2021, 11:15 PM
And sorry masks do work in the prevention of getting this airborne virus in closed in places with lots of virus in the air.
They are not totally fullproof. You ARE STILL full of shit. Of course you can still get the virus and accompanying symptoms by sitting in a car with people who are infected and giving off large viral loads over a long period time.

The masks absolutely work in mitigating and PREVENTING under short term exposure smaller viral loads WHICH IS WHAT ONE would typically get in the settings they are asked to be used for. STores, shorter airplane flights, airports...
One viral particle is much smaller that almost any filter could handle. But millions of airborne viruses in a droplet of water are absolutely going to find it very difficult to get through a mask. And thats how these viruses are spread, NOT one particle at a time. Millions in droplets.:lol TSA thinks people breathe out pure virus

DarrinS
08-01-2021, 11:15 PM
Clip vs. magazine argumentation; i.e., stalling.

You get that breakthrough infection data yet, Darrin?

Or data bad now?


Natural infection + Pfizer x 2

Very immune

Its extremely easy to NOT get infected. And very low tech.

DarrinS
08-01-2021, 11:16 PM
Natural infection + Pfizer x 2

Very immune

Its extremely easy to NOT get infected. And very low tech.

And I'm not talking about a mask, which is somewhat effective.

ChumpDumper
08-01-2021, 11:16 PM
Natural infection + Pfizer x 2

Very immune

Its extremely easy to NOT get infected. And very low tech.Why are you avoiding my question, Darrin?

~165,000,000 fully vaccinated.

How many breakthrough infections?

just tap out if you're afraid.

pgardn
08-01-2021, 11:17 PM
1. I was never on a site called q anon.

2. Masks don’t work for this virus as I’ve repeatedly shown. Find me an RCT trial that says otherwise.

3. I never said the vaccine is highly unsafe in fact I’ve said it works.

4. Posting from a shower?

1. You know where you got the stupid child eating information from and where it came from. Dont be disingenuous because I might have spelled it incorrectly. Thats BS.

2. Your are dead wrong. fk your RTC trials it works from actually application of worldwide data we have on real people in the real world. The CORRELATION is undeniable. You are a liar.

3. NO but YOUR got to child eating site did. Do you disavow this site since you have proven to absolutely and utterly WRONG.

4. Yeah, yeah. Continue your disingenuous Bullshit.

SnakeBoy
08-01-2021, 11:18 PM
Oh christ...

We are back to this again...

Fruitless.
"I choose to be ignorant" Darrin.

Immune dysregulation is what is causing severe illness. Severe immune dysregulation leading to death is occurring AFTER the viral replication phase of the illness.

Ruling: Darrin is correct.

DarrinS
08-01-2021, 11:18 PM
Why are you avoiding my question, Darrin?

~165,000,000 fully vaccinated.

How many breakthrough infections?

just tap out if you're afraid.


Large fraction are vaccinated

ElNono
08-01-2021, 11:19 PM
He needs to monitor his oxygen. When my brother got it my mom asked her doctor when you start getting in the danger zone and he said when blood oxygen is below 92%. Below 92% is probably hospital time.

Will pass that along, thanks :tu

pgardn
08-01-2021, 11:20 PM
I have no need to find your post I already responded to, that’s on you. Go.

Of course you dont.
Because it will get shit upon like your other responses.
I stand by what I bolded. There is no retort on those from a science perspective at this time.

ChumpDumper
08-01-2021, 11:20 PM
Large fraction are vaccinatedHow many, Darrin?

Just tap out if you're afraid.

pgardn
08-01-2021, 11:21 PM
I have no need to find your post I already responded to, that’s on you. Go.

Of course you dont.
Because it will get shit upon like your other responses.
I stand by what I bolded. There is no retort on those from a science perspective at this time.

pgardn
08-01-2021, 11:25 PM
Immune dysregulation is what is causing severe illness. Severe immune dysregulation leading to death is occurring AFTER the viral replication phase of the illness.

Ruling: Darrin is correct.

"Any organ or system that does not work properly is what kills you.
We dont need to look at why exactly the organ or system is not working properly."

-Snake

Ruling.
This is disingenuous shit and typical of skankboi.

Adam Lambert
08-01-2021, 11:26 PM
Vaccinated people are spreading covid. End of discussion


Immune dysregulation is what is causing severe illness. Severe immune dysregulation leading to death is occurring AFTER the viral replication phase of the illness.

Ruling: Darrin is correct.

Calls himself the most pro vaccine person on the board, swoops in to semen shield semantic argument by a guy who's claiming that vaccines don't matter anymore.

Adam Lambert
08-01-2021, 11:26 PM
I really hope you guys keep your opinions to the Spurs talk political forum because I can only imagine how many people you've misled in real life if you have actual friends.

pgardn
08-01-2021, 11:35 PM
Will pass that along, thanks :tu

And make sure its accurate.
Some of those things can read oxygen incorrectly.
Probably wait if you get a really low reading just a bit and then try a reading again (Im guessing you would know this)
I just fiddled with one and it gave a reading in the 70 s on occasion. I was just interested in how they worked and how it might give you a bad reading by doing things a little sloppy.

ElNono
08-01-2021, 11:43 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/DrScottBalsitis/status/1421869352853196805

I mean, I read the article, and I mostly agree with the salient points of it. People need to get vaxxed, and shouldn't buy into the dramatic (as long as you're vaccinated).

He vaxxed one if his kids that is not age restricted to get the vaccine to help stop the spread. His other kid can't be vaccinated because is presumably too young.

It's just not clear to me what his complaint is? Maybe school closures? Is that a thing right now? Mask mandates won't stop his kid from going to school, so I'm not sure where he's aggravated, if at all.

ElNono
08-01-2021, 11:46 PM
And make sure its accurate.
Some of those things can read oxygen incorrectly.
Probably wait if you get a really low reading just a bit and then try a reading again (Im guessing you would know this)
I just fiddled with one and it gave a reading in the 70 s on occasion. I was just interested in how they worked and how it might give you a bad reading by doing things a little sloppy.

I'm familiar with oximeters. Warm hands, or toes, doesn't work over acrylic nails, etc.

I just ordered a fairly nice one for him, should have it by wednesday. They're $20, and can buy him a bit of piece of mind. Least I can do for family.

DarrinS
08-01-2021, 11:51 PM
I really hope you guys keep your opinions to the Spurs talk political forum because I can only imagine how many people you've misled in real life if you have actual friends.

All my friends and family are vaxxed and have common sense about prevention.

Is there something else?

SnakeBoy
08-01-2021, 11:56 PM
I mean, I read the article, and I mostly agree with the salient points of it. People need to get vaxxed, and shouldn't buy into the dramatic (as long as you're vaccinated).

He vaxxed one if his kids that is not age restricted to get the vaccine to help stop the spread. His other kid can't be vaccinated because is presumably too young.

It's just not clear to me what his complaint is? Maybe school closures? Is that a thing right now? Mask mandates won't stop his kid from going to school, so I'm not sure where he's aggravated, if at all.

Masking young children and imposing social distancing rules will impact the development of what they call the social skills.

ChumpDumper
08-01-2021, 11:58 PM
Masking young children and imposing social distancing rules will impact the development of what they call the social skills.How?

At what age will what thing happen?

Are different ages more vulnerable to each?

Should they all just get the COVID now?

Winehole23
08-02-2021, 12:00 AM
I'm familiar with oximeters. Warm hands, or toes, doesn't work over acrylic nails, etc.Melanin throws the readings off too.

SnakeBoy
08-02-2021, 12:02 AM
Calls himself the most pro vaccine person on the board, swoops in to semen shield semantic argument by a guy who's claiming that vaccines don't matter anymore.

According to the CDC vaccinated people are spreading the virus as a result they have changed their guidance to recommend that vaccinated persons return to wearing masks

Ruling: Darrin correctly stated that vaccinated people are spreading the virus

DarrinS
08-02-2021, 12:03 AM
Masking young children and imposing social distancing rules will impact the development of what they call the social skills.

Amazing how we've fucked kids over to make older people feel safe.

ChumpDumper
08-02-2021, 12:06 AM
According to the CDC vaccinated people are spreading the virus as a result they have changed their guidance to recommend that vaccinated persons return to wearing masks

Ruling: Darrin correctly stated that vaccinated people are spreading the virusI'll ask you directly since Darrin has tried to change the subject.

Out of ~165,000,000 fully vaccinated Americans, how many breakthrough infections?

I know Bear Week has been very important for you and Darrin, but I would like to get a total of all the others.

Winehole23
08-02-2021, 12:06 AM
Amazing how we've fucked kids over to make older people feel safe.amazing also how we're about to fuck kids over so we can feel normal.

Winehole23
08-02-2021, 12:08 AM
they, in turn, will spread disease at home to vaccinated and unvaccinated alike.

DarrinS
08-02-2021, 12:09 AM
amazing also how we're about to fuck kids over so we can feel normal.

No.

Kids are extremely low risk. That doesn't mean zero risk.

UK isn't planning on vaccinating under 18.

We've gone down to 12.

Winehole23
08-02-2021, 12:13 AM
No.

Kids are extremely low risk. That doesn't mean zero risk.

UK isn't planning on vaccinating under 18.

We've gone down to 12.you minimize COVID. that's your schtick.

you've been wrong the whole way.

DarrinS
08-02-2021, 12:14 AM
you minimize COVID. that's your schtick.

you've been wrong the whole way.

I have kids.

Winehole23
08-02-2021, 12:17 AM
I have kids.so much the worse for them to have a sociopath for a father.

DarrinS
08-02-2021, 12:21 AM
so much the worse for them to have a sociopath for a father.

You don't have kids.

DarrinS
08-02-2021, 12:24 AM
I love being lectured about the dangers of covid from people who've never had it. And lectured about the danger to our kids, who don't have kids.

Winehole23
08-02-2021, 12:26 AM
You don't have kids.I have grandkids, bro.

Winehole23
08-02-2021, 12:28 AM
lol lecturing others for not having kids.

lol awarding youself a badge for having them.

ElNono
08-02-2021, 12:38 AM
Masking young children and imposing social distancing rules will impact the development of what they call the social skills.

Lack of social skills are largely non-life threatening though. At the very least, much less deadly than covid is for non-children.


Amazing how we've fucked kids over to help older people stay alive.

fify

ElNono
08-02-2021, 12:39 AM
I love being lectured about the dangers of covid from people who've never had it. And lectured about the danger to our kids, who don't have kids.

That's all good as long as you also acknowledge that your experience is anecdotal at best.

ChumpDumper
08-02-2021, 12:52 AM
lol lecturing others for not having kids.

lol awarding youself a badge for having them.:lmao he really lives to try to lord over people with the most basic shit.

DarrinS
08-02-2021, 12:56 AM
I have grandkids, bro.

Uh, you have no kids, but have grandkids?

Ok

DarrinS
08-02-2021, 12:58 AM
That's all good as long as you also acknowledge that your experience is anecdotal at best.

Everyone's experience is anecdotal.

Winehole23
08-02-2021, 01:00 AM
Uh, you have no kids, but have grandkids?

OkI sure do have grandkids.

Believe it or not, it makes no difference to me.

Winehole23
08-02-2021, 01:02 AM
My wife can confirm, I won't ask her to for a narcissistic choad like you though.

DarrinS
08-02-2021, 01:06 AM
My wife can confirm, I won't ask her to for a narcissistic choad like you though.

Its a biological miracle

Winehole23
08-02-2021, 01:08 AM
Its a biological miracleyou don't know shit about me

Winehole23
08-02-2021, 01:10 AM
which isn't any surprise, you're glib rather than knowledgeble.

ducks
08-02-2021, 01:14 AM
https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/166313516_10225686359130743_7735725881169802068_n. jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=L0duBUMKEiQAX9eSopX&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-2.xx&oh=916836cb8d7376c353faaeb6b3eac8b1&oe=612DEE45

ElNono
08-02-2021, 01:26 AM
Everyone's experience is anecdotal.

Exactly, that's why bringing up your own experience is generally worthless.

Somebody lecturing you or anybody else with public, large-scale covid statistics is actually perfectly valid, whether that person had covid him/herself or not.

SnakeBoy
08-02-2021, 01:43 AM
Out of ~165,000,000 fully vaccinated Americans, how many breakthrough infections?


Last I heard around 125k vaccinated people have tested positive for Covid. The number is much higher for obvious reasons. This moment in time doesn't matter since the number of vaccinated people infected will be 100% ultimately.

Winehole23
08-02-2021, 02:04 AM
the emphasis on the long run elides the temporal risk. the rate of infection, disability, suffering and death matter in real time, but the emphasis on adaptive eventualities tries to put all temporal adversity and loss in the shade of the mere eventual survival of the survivors.

the pose of tough-minded survival props itself up on a pile of dead bodies and congratulates itself for "winning" when it's merely lucky.

ChumpDumper
08-02-2021, 02:04 AM
Last I heard around 125k vaccinated people have tested positive for Covid. The number is much higher for obvious reasons. This moment in time doesn't matter since the number of vaccinated people infected will be 100% ultimately.Of course it matters.

125k being infected in a few months is not the same as 165,000,000 being infected in that time.

Do you think it's the same?

Yes or no.

ElNono
08-02-2021, 02:05 AM
The number is much higher for obvious reasons. This moment in time doesn't matter since the number of vaccinated people infected will be 100% ultimately.

I would agree with this statement now, but not sure it will still apply maybe 10, 20, 30 years down the road. In that sense, time does matter.

Winehole23
08-02-2021, 02:09 AM
the masochistic passivity of SnakeBoy and dumb Darrin to COVID is essentially a wish that others die en masse for the speculative advantage of natural immunity.

Winehole23
08-02-2021, 02:33 AM
the idea that the only lives that matter are those best adapted to survive COVID is thinly veiled sadism that presumes its own survival and lords it over others.

hater
08-02-2021, 08:18 AM
Exactly, that's why bringing up your own experience is generally worthless.

Somebody lecturing you or anybody else with public, large-scale covid statistics is actually perfectly valid, whether that person had covid him/herself or not.

Statistics say kids are safe. Statistic says grandmas are vaxed. No.need to mask the toddlers

boutons_deux
08-02-2021, 08:53 AM
Exactly, that's why bringing up your own experience is generally worthless.



... aka "anecdote" all generally worthless

boutons_deux
08-02-2021, 09:00 AM
"BREAKING NEWS: Tennessee Republican lawmaker David Byrd,

who accused Democrats of sensationalizing the pandemic,

begs his fellow Republicans to take Covid seriously

after spending 55 days on a ventilator and

having a liver transplant due to the virus.

Pass this in to spread his plea!"

-- Occupy Democrats

.. Just the flu.

A San Antonio school district says it will treat covid students like the flu, and will keep secret from parents about infections.

Winehole23
08-02-2021, 09:29 AM
Florida sets new record for COVID-19 hospitalizations as variant cases surge (https://www.wfla.com/community/health/coronavirus/grim-milestone-florida-sets-new-record-for-covid-19-hospitalizations-as-variant-cases-surge/)