Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

[DMC]

Just send sick people to the boarder and have them cross, just like that free healthcare, no vaccinations required and plenty beds.

[Adam Lambert]

Gosh, would I prefer to save someone who escaped a deadly situation in their home country at great risk to themselves so they could work a shitty job in America and support their family, or would I prefer some entitled piece of shit who's still trying to figure out if stories about magnetized 5G microchips inside the COVID vaccine are credible before taking it? That's a tough decision.

I'd deport each anti-vaxxer for 2 vaccinated Mexicans if I could.

[hater]

We don't shut down society for any of those, and we certainly have laws and mandates to regulate drinking, smoking, drug use and fighting...

Theyre all personals choices. So is taking the vx.

Freedom :tu

[hater]

I didn't realize obesity could be transmitted via aerosols. Better watch out in Florida, son.

Vaccinated transmit as much as non so your point is moot

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1436084994284433411?s=19

[RandomGuy]

Over eating, drinking, doing drugs, smoking, fighting, speed racing, all are high risk activities that can be a drag
for societys health.tbqh

Freedom lets us make choices :tu

Freedom :tu

All freedoms have limits you stupid shit.

I am not free to randomly fire a machine gun anywhere I want to, nor am I free to shout "Fire" in a crowded movie theater, nor am I free to perform ritual human sacrifice for my religion.

Why is this so hard for you morons to understand?

[hater]

All freedoms have limits you stupid shit.

I am not free to randomly fire a machine gun anywhere I want to, nor am I free to shout "Fire" in a crowded movie theater, nor am I free to perform ritual human sacrifice for my religion.

Why is this so hard for you morons to understand?

Unvaccinated are ONLY a danger to themselves. Noone else.

Follow the science, muppet

Freedom :tu

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1436409969071493125?s=19

[RandomGuy]

Unvaccinated are ONLY a danger to themselves. Noone else.

Follow the science, muppet

Freedom :tu

:lmao

"unvaccinated people can't spread disease to others" :rollin

Stupid fucking hater can't understand how diseases work. Fuck, I knew you were an idiot, but ... wow.

[Nathan89]

Why should I subsidize your shitty life choices?

:elephant:elephantRandomGuy is pro small government :elephant:elephant

[Adam Lambert]

Vaccinated transmit as much as non so your point is moot


Unvaccinated are ONLY a danger to themselves. Noone else.

Rapid fire fake news, stop spreading lies you piece of shit.

[Nathan89]

Vaccinated illegal, 100%.

This is still the Land of Opportunity, and I'm a proud American.

Yeah, you aren't concerned about the availability of hospital beds.

[RandomGuy]

:elephant:elephantRandomGuy is pro small government :elephant:elephant

You didn't answer the question.

Why should I subsidize your shitty life choices, you hypocritical coward?

or... just run the fuck away from your statements. Like you always do.

I don't expect much from no-nut fucks like yourself.

[hater]

:lmao

"unvaccinated people can't spread disease to others" :rollin

Stupid fucking hater can't understand how diseases work. Fuck, I knew you were an idiot, but ... wow.

Follow d science lemming

Unvaxed spread as much virus as vaxed. So they cancel each other out. Thus unvaxed are ONLY a danger to themselves


Freedom :tu

[Adam Lambert]

Yeah, you aren't concerned about the availability of hospital beds.

I have yet to see hospitals running out of beds due to illegals. This is just another doomsday scenario you have to invent to accept your own hate.

[RandomGuy]

Follow d sciencr, lemming

Unvaxed spread as much virus as vaxed. So they cancel each other out. Thus unvaxed are ONLY a danger to themselves


Freedom :tu

No they don't. Vaxxed spread the disease much less that is what the science actually says, moron. Vaxxed people fight off virus much faster, which means they are contageous for a much shorter time period.

You stupid shit. :lol

[daboom1]

Unvaxxed and fully recovered, feels good to have natural immunity :tu

[pgardn]

Yeah the uber driver is required to disclose it? What if he says yes and hes not? :lol

Have you ever taken uber?
In the last 3 months in San Antonio Texas?

It said he would be wearing a mask, he was, it says I must be wearing a mask, I was.
You can call the driver or you can talk directly to him/her when they stop. You got their name.
You say let me see your vaccination card. Its that simple.

Fransisco -------- showed me his card and he asked for mine. And boom, off we go.
You act like some big business chief and you cant get this?
Do you need to laugh again?

If they dont have the card, go away. You cancel the bill if you have to. I have not had to.
I am proactive in this card thing in the SAME car BREATHING the same air. For a 15 minute drive.
Its my right. I share air in a very small space with an unknown person, damn right its important.
I have people who ASK me to be proactive because I work with and come home to actual living humans.

You hide out on this board all day so you dont get it.
Mr. International Businessman... fkn liar.

[Adam Lambert]

Grown up and still scared of a shot, feels good to be a pussy since I'll never get any

[Nathan89]

Let's deport 12-15 million illegals to free up hospital capacity for Americans.

[hater]

Rapid fire fake news, stop spreading lies you piece of shit.

CDC documents say this. You dont trust CDC?

[RandomGuy]

Let's deport 12-15 million illegals to free up hospital capacity for Americans.

Let's keep them and their kids.

They are all more productive and useful to the economy than you are. :lol

[Nathan89]

Let's keep them and their kids.

They are all more productive and useful to the economy than you are. :lol

Are you fine with deporting the illegals that you have to subsidize?

[hater]

I will gladly retract myself if someone posts evidence that this is false:

https://twitter.com/Roman_Baber/status/1424344186652962824?s=19

[Nathan89]

Let's deport every illegal who is a net negative to the country. If you are concerned about hospital capacity we should deport them all. If you are concerned with subsidizing others then just deport the net negatives.

Also we should end any government program that subsidizes the poor decision making of other American citizens.

[DarrinS]

Are they mandating it for those with natural immunity, too?

[Thread]

I will gladly retract myself if someone posts evidence that this is false:

https://twitter.com/Roman_Baber/status/1424344186652962824?s=19

The hater. Yes, "scorned and covered in scars" he remains a living legend.

hater

It's Friday, therefore I'll go again...

hater

(3) is my lucky # and it's Friday, I don't want to fuck up my weekend...therefore I'll not press my luck and I'll hit hater a third time...

hater

For what is a man, what has he got
If not himself, then he has naught
To say the words he truly feels
And not the words of one who kneels

This man, this hater, this man. He will never kneel.

[Thread]

Let's deport every illegal who is a net negative to the country. If you are concerned about hospital capacity we should deport them all. If you are concerned with subsidizing others then just deport the net negatives.

Also we should end any government program that subsidizes the poor decision making of other American citizens.

Nathan, the voice of reason and moderation in troubled times.

Nathan

[Adam Lambert]

I will gladly retract myself if someone posts evidence that this is false:

https://twitter.com/Roman_Baber/status/1424344186652962824?s=19

Vaccinated people with breakthrough COVID cases are equally likely to spread it while contagious as unvaccinated people. But vaccinated people are (1) less likely to get COVID*, and (2) contagious for less time**. So overall, it is false to say vaccinated people transmit the virus as much as unvaccinated people.

It's like saying drinking and driving doesn't matter because a sober driver is just as likely to kill someone in a crash at 90mph as a drunk driver. You're purposefully leaving out important variables to push a dishonest narrative.


* Source: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/effectiveness/why-measure-effectiveness/breakthrough-cases.html
** Source https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/variants/delta-variant.html

[spurraider21]

I will gladly retract myself if someone posts evidence that this is false:

https://twitter.com/Roman_Baber/status/1424344186652962824?s=19
this has been known about delta for a while now

vaccinated people who become breakthrough cases are just as likely to pass covid along as an unvaccinated person who has tested positive

of course, this excludes that vaccinated people are less likely to become breakthrough cases than an unvaccinated person becoming infected. this is why even vaccinated people are being advised to mask up in public

[spurraider21]

lambert beat me to it

[spurraider21]

Are they mandating it for those with natural immunity, too?
hope so

[hater]

Ok if you can point me to a document that says only breakthrough vaxed cases spread the virus I will.gladly looK at it. :tu

Also point me to the ratio.difference between unvaxed and vaxed. The R0 to be more specific. Is there a.document that shows the R0 is reduced in vaxed.populations?

That would be a great start. Too bad.THE CDC.THEMSELVES DECIDED NOT.TO TRACK NON HOSPITALIZED COVID VAXED INFECTIONS. THUS THE NUMBERS ARE MISSING THANKS TO CDC

[hater]

Also the meme that is repeated "well we did not design this vaccine to stop infection. Only to reduce hospitalizations".tells me I am correct

[DMC]

Let's keep the "you never know" train going. You never know if you're infected, you could be asymptomatic even though you're vaccinated and somehow got infected. You never know. Even if you were tested a minute ago and found negative, you could have gotten it in that one minute. You never know. The results could be wrong. You never know.

The problem with this strategy is there's no recovery strategy that can include "you never know". You have to know or at least you have to make a decision to act and live (or die) with the outcome.

[Adam Lambert]

Ok if you can point me to a document that says only breakthrough vaxed cases spread the virus I will.gladly looK at it. :tu

Or you could just shut the fuck up.

[hater]

Or you could just shut the fuck up.

I could yes. But not yet.

[DarrinS]

hope so

Why?

[DMC]

Ok if you can point me to a document that says only breakthrough vaxed cases spread the virus I will.gladly looK at it. :tu

Also point me to the ratio.difference between unvaxed and vaxed. The R0 to be more specific. Is there a.document that shows the R0 is reduced in vaxed.populations?

That would be a great start. Too bad.THE CDC.THEMSELVES DECIDED NOT.TO TRACK NON HOSPITALIZED COVID VAXED INFECTIONS. THUS THE NUMBERS ARE MISSING THANKS TO CDC

The virus didn't come with a user manual or quality certificate so I don't think you'll find what you're looking for given the novelty of the virus.

[hater]

The virus didn't come with a user manual or quality certificate so I don't think you'll find what you're looking for given the novelty of the virus.

So r u saying what Biden said is halfway BS?

[DMC]

So r u saying what Biden said is halfway BS?

No idea what he said but I'd bet on it.

[hater]

No idea what he said but I'd bet on it.

"This is an epidemic of unvaccinated"

"We the vaxed are tired of unvaxed killing ppl"

"Blah blah time to put the hammer down"

Very little scientific stuff on that BS imo. Especially being days after your top FDA vaccine decicion makers quit on protest

[Th'Pusher]

Let's keep the "you never know" train going. You never know if you're infected, you could be asymptomatic even though you're vaccinated and somehow got infected. You never know. Even if you were tested a minute ago and found negative, you could have gotten it in that one minute. You never know. The results could be wrong. You never know.

The problem with this strategy is there's no recovery strategy that can include "you never know". You have to know or at least you have to make a decision to act and live (or die) with the outcome.
Wtf is this asshole talking about?

[spurraider21]

Why?
more immunity more better

[Adam Lambert]

"This is an epidemic of unvaccinated"

"We the vaxed are tired of unvaxed killing ppl"

"Blah blah time to put the hammer down"

All correct. Biden's right, hater's wrong. :tu

[spurraider21]

Ok if you can point me to a document that says only breakthrough vaxed cases spread the virus I will.gladly looK at it. :tu
:lol how can a person transmit a disease that they don't have?

vaccinated people who have covid-19 are by definition breakthrough cases. are you suggesting that people who dont have covid-19 can spread it?

[hater]

All correct. Biden's right, hater's wrong. :tu

Fake news according to cdc and cnn

[hater]

:lol how can a person transmit a disease that they don't have?

vaccinated people who have covid-19 are by definition breakthrough cases. are you suggesting that people who dont have covid-19 can spread it?

:lol doesnt understand asymptomatic transmission :lol

[DMC]

Wtf is this asshole talking about?

If you don't understand it probably wasn't aimed at you.

If I was talking to you I'd use smaller words.

[DMC]

:lol how can a person transmit a disease that they don't have?

vaccinated people who have covid-19 are by definition breakthrough cases. are you suggesting that people who dont have covid-19 can spread it?

So you don't know that cases only exist when someone gets tested and it's positive? And that they only get tested because they were either exposed or they have symptoms?

Surely you're not this daft.

[spurraider21]

:lol doesnt understand asymptomatic transmission :lol
vaccinated people who test positive and are asymptomatic are still breakthrough cases

breakthrough case =/= symptomatic case

[spurraider21]

So you don't know that cases only exist when someone gets tested and it's positive? And that they only get tested because they were either exposed or they have symptoms?

Surely you're not this daft.
nobody ever claimed this. you are shadowboxing, as usual, with nary a point to make, as usual

somebody who is vaccinated and catches covid, is asymptomatic, never got tested... is still a breakthrough case of covid-19. we already know that the amount of confirmed covid cases is a lot lower than the actual amount of covid cases because of the asymptomatic cases that never get tested. that doesnt change the fact that vaccinated people are less likely to catch even an asymptomatic case of covid-19

the NFL is actually a good case study of this, where they have regular testing for both vaccinated and unvaccinated players, symptomatic or not, and unvaccinated players were far more likely to test positive

[daboom1]

:lol doesnt understand asymptomatic transmission :lol

*Risitas

[ChumpDumper]

:lol DaftMC

[Adam Lambert]

Fake news according to cdc and cnn

I literally gave you CDC links.

Stop being a liar.

[spurraider21]

*Risitas
tick tock

[hater]

vaccinated people who test positive and are asymptomatic are still breakthrough cases

breakthrough case =/= symptomatic case

CDC is not tracking non hospitalized brakthrough cases. Theres nondata os asymptomatic vaxed spread. Thanks to cdc

[Ef-man]

I literally gave you CDC links.

Stop being a liar.

You called it!

[daboom1]

This message is hidden because spurraider21 is on your ignore list

[DMC]

nobody ever claimed this. you are shadowboxing, as usual, with nary a point to make, as usual

somebody who is vaccinated and catches covid, is asymptomatic, never got tested... is still a breakthrough case of covid-19. we already know that the amount of confirmed covid cases is a lot lower than the actual amount of covid cases because of the asymptomatic cases that never get tested. that doesnt change the fact that vaccinated people are less likely to catch even an asymptomatic case of covid-19

the NFL is actually a good case study of this, where they have regular testing for both vaccinated and unvaccinated players, symptomatic or not, and unvaccinated players were far more likely to test positive

You said "breakthrough cases". The word "cases" is important. This is why the CDC originally advised against mask usage, not enough "cases" and they're too short sighted to realize that cases only exist when people have been tested and recorded as having tested positive. It doesn't mean people aren't still spreading it just because they aren't a "breakthrough case". Maybe stop using the term "cases" to mean anyone infected. That's not how the CDC uses it.

[DMC]

Vaccinated people with breakthrough COVID cases are equally likely to spread it while contagious as unvaccinated people. But vaccinated people are (1) less likely to get COVID*, and (2) contagious for less time**. So overall, it is false to say vaccinated people transmit the virus as much as unvaccinated people.

It's like saying drinking and driving doesn't matter because a sober driver is just as likely to kill someone in a crash at 90mph as a drunk driver. You're purposefully leaving out important variables to push a dishonest narrative.


* Source: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/effectiveness/why-measure-effectiveness/breakthrough-cases.html
** Source https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/variants/delta-variant.html

Wrong

"just as much" is volume, not time unless you say "how much time". If tehy are "equally as likely to spread it" then they are shedding "just as much" as the other. You said so yourself.

You folks need to stop trying to trick fuck the terms. This isn't "I want to be a lawyer".

[spurraider21]

You said "breakthrough cases". The word "cases" is important. This is why the CDC originally advised against mask usage, not enough "cases" and they're too short sighted to realize that cases only exist when people have been tested and recorded as having tested positive. It doesn't mean people aren't still spreading it just because they aren't a "breakthrough case". Maybe stop using the term "cases" to mean anyone infected. That's not how the CDC uses it.
confirmed cases only exist when they're testing. but we know the actual amount of cases is higher than the amount of confirmed cases. this is why people tended to track positivity rates as well.

somebody who is asymptomatic, has covid, but hasnt taken a test (and therefore hasnt tested positive) is still a breakthrough case. just not one that we can record/confirm. and it is true that vaccinated carriers of delta are about as likely as unvaccinated carriers of delta to spread it to others.

[Adam Lambert]

Wrong

"just as much" is volume, not time unless you say "how much time". If tehy are "equally as likely to spread it" then they are shedding "just as much" as the other. You said so yourself.

You folks need to stop trying to trick fuck the terms. This isn't "I want to be a lawyer".

When time is less, so is volume.

For example, if you and hater are both equally likely to be full of shit when you post, but hater posts 10x as much as you do, you don't post bullshit in equal amounts.

Vaccinated people don't spread the virus as much as unvaccinated. Period. You're doctoring the variables to semen shield for assholes just because you hate it when I'm right.

[ElNono]

All correct. Biden's right, hater's wrong. :tu

Called it!

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/241551515_5521836404576035_6649852155657693377_n.p ng?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=_V3MG7cAVVEAX-3F61E&tn=sgsej9iWu4yn8imH&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=0f6627a3262f14a7fa5ac17adfbf7548&oe=6162C37D

[hater]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/241551515_5521836404576035_6649852155657693377_n.p ng?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=_V3MG7cAVVEAX-3F61E&tn=sgsej9iWu4yn8imH&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=0f6627a3262f14a7fa5ac17adfbf7548&oe=6162C37D

Great success?

[Isitjustme?]

Wrong

"just as much" is volume, not time unless you say "how much time". If tehy are "equally as likely to spread it" then they are shedding "just as much" as the other. You said so yourself.

You folks need to stop trying to trick fuck the terms. This isn't "I want to be a lawyer".

Yes, you're not the one being deliberately obtuse and contradictory here, everyone else is.

[boutons_deux]

Medicare bills for unvaccinated surpass $2 billion for June and July alone

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2051437

[boutons_deux]

another shitbag Repug shithole state

Tennessee schools have already had 8 teachers and 2 students die of COVID-19

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2051291

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1436294209124900864?s=19
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1436295894593384448?s=19

[Blake]

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1436294209124900864?s=19
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1436295894593384448?s=19

:lol

[Thread]

another shitbag Repug shithole state

Tennessee schools have already had 8 teachers and 2 students die of COVID-19

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2051291

I'll tote it to mother fucker Biden's side of the COVID Death Ledger.

Thanks, fart face.

[Thread]

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1436294209124900864?s=19
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1436295894593384448?s=19

Lower the boom, boomster.

Of a Friday evening...

Testify!!!

[boutons_deux]

Maddow goes off on Idaho doctor who calls vaccine mandates ‘needle rape’ as hospitalizations soar

Maddow highlighted the beliefs of Ryan Cole, a conspiracy theorist doctor just appointed to oversee a major health board in Idaho as the COVID-19 pandemic rages out of control in the state.

"He says we should call the CDC the 'Ministry of Truth,'

because they're like the propaganda arm of the fictional totalitarian regime in the novel 1984," said Maddow.

"He says COVID vaccines must be, quote, 'stopped.'

He calls vaccines a, quote, 'poisonous attack on our population that needs to stop now.'

He has also advocated for the use of the horse deworming medication ivermectin —

they pleaded people to stop using it because it's easy to OD on it and make yourself very ill.

This is how the local NPR station in Boise headlined their article.

The central health district, quote, they call COVID-19 vaccine 'needle rape,' as he did, in fact, call it that."

https://www.rawstory.com/rachel-maddow-ryan-cole-idaho

Shithole Idaho, proud home to fascist militias.

[daboom1]

Lower the boom, boomster.

Of a Friday evening...

Testify!!!

They're gonna herd us in to Wal-Marts one of these days.

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1436413022357098496?s=19

[ElNono]

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1436294209124900864?s=19
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1436295894593384448?s=19

The irony :lmao:lmao:lmao

[ElNono]

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1436413022357098496?s=19

:tu

[benefactor]

The irony :lmao:lmao:lmao
Trump people never miss an opportunity to broadcast their lack of self awareness.

[daboom1]

This message is hidden because ElNono is on your ignore list


This message is hidden because ElNono is on your ignore list

:tu

[ElNono]

beep boop

[pgardn]

Got Chrissy to put you on ignore.
Damn good stuff.

Put me on ignore Chrissy.

[baseline bum]

I'll tote it to mother fucker Biden's side of the COVID Death Ledger.

Thanks, fart face.

You'd happily die of COVID just to have it count in Biden's term wouldn't you?

[pgardn]

Actually he would not, but to just be able to cheat and put one more score on the scoresheet... that is his comfort zone.
Just make a score up. Just count and hes fine.
Its easy.

[DarrinS]

You guys were body counting last year.

[DarrinS]

I'm not blaming Biden. Delta variant screwed us over

[pgardn]

You guys were body counting last year.

who is you guys?

[ElNono]

You guys were body counting last year.

Go check who started the body count thread, tbh

[pgardn]

I'm not blaming Biden. Delta variant screwed us over

I am blaming Trump for not doing a better job with this.
He totally sucked as a leader.
He still vacillates, even after being vaccinated and trying to keep HIS hope alive, in front of crowds now.
He took advantage of misunderstandings to create a political climate for a biological problem.
There is no way to put a number on it.

[DarrinS]

I am blaming Trump for not doing a better job with this.
He totally sucked as a leader.
He still vacillates, even after being vaccinated and trying to keep HIS hope alive, in front of crowds now.
He took advantage of misunderstandings to create a political climate for a biological problem.
There is no way to put a number on it.

See

[pgardn]

See

His job on this virus was the final nail in an 8 million vote difference.
He lost YOUR party the presidency. Anyone else in 2020 came to fruition.

[DarrinS]

His job on this virus was the final nail in an 8 million vote difference.
He lost YOUR party the presidency. Anyone else in 2020 came to fruition.

We have a senile president and still have Fauci.

The messaging around vaccines has been a complete clusterfuck.

[pgardn]

We have a senile president and still have Fauci.

The messaging around vaccines has been a complete clusterfuck.

The messaging questioning ANY use of a vaccine was planted by Trump.
There you have an immediate use of the presidency to create confusion.
Fauci is doing what science guys do. Here we are now, we might go this way, no we went that way, ok, try this now.
If this was explained to the public by politicians, who people like you will not allow to be wrong, things could be a whole lot better. VACCINES were never presented in a positive light or explained from the very beginning. Trump has already stated he likes to use deception to get his way, he enjoys it. When did Trump tell the nation to get vaccinated, when?

Dont even try to equate the two.
He set us up for a very tough situation.
He split families and then forced us to test the dire urgency of shutting people in together and away from work and others by letting this spill over into a health care system he promised to fix and never touched.

dont even try... Its like blaming Obama for fixing the financial mess brought on by out of control capitalism. (and yes, "everyone should have a house" by some democrats). We will see the best way out AFTER the mess is under control.
Instead of preventing the mess from getting out of control to begin with.

It becomes very convenient for both political parties to forget timelines and blame people like Fauci. "He said this!" 6 months ago when we had no clue. Its disingenuous political shit. Drain the swamp... God lord. Make a swamp and LIE in it.

[Ef-man]

Great messaging by trump on virus.


The numerous times trump lied in saying covid would disappear:

You know, a lot of people think that goes away in April with the heat — as the heat comes in. Typically, that will go away in April.
Feb 10, 2020

China is working very, very hard. I have spoken to President Xi, and they’re working very hard. And if you know anything about him, I think he’ll be in pretty good shape. They’re — they’ve had a rough patch, and I think right now they have it — it looks like they’re getting it under control more and more. They’re getting it more and more under control. So I think that’s a problem that’s going to go away.
Feb 25, 2020

…when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done.
Feb 26, 2020

It’s going to disappear. One day — it’s like a miracle — it will disappear. And from our shores, we — you know, it could get worse before it gets better. It could maybe go away. We’ll see what happens. Nobody really knows.
Feb 27, 2020

I don’t think people are panicking. I said last night — we did an interview on Fox last night, a town hall. I think it was very good. And I said, ‘Calm. You have to be calm.’ It’ll go away.
March 6, 2020

We’re prepared, and we’re doing a great job with it. And it will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away.
March 10, 2020

You know, we need a little a separation until such time as this goes away. It’s going to go away. It’s going to go away.
March 12, 2020

Stay calm. It will go away. You know it — you know it is going away, and it will go away. And we’re going to have a great victory.
March 30, 2020

It’s going to go away, hopefully at the end of the month. And, if not, hopefully it will be soon after that.
March 31, 2020

It is going to go away. It is going away.
April 3, 2020

It did go — it will go away.
April 7, 2020

But a lot of movement and a lot of progress has been made in a vaccine. But I think what happens is it’s going to go away. This is going to go away. And whether it comes back in a modified form in the fall, we’ll be able to handle it.
April 28, 2020

It’s going to go. It’s going to leave. It’s going to be gone. It’s going to be eradicated. And it might take longer. It might be in smaller sections. It’ll be — it won’t be what we had. And we also learned a lot.
April 29, 2020

And I think we’re doing very well on the vaccines but, with or without a vaccine, it’s going to pass, and we’re going to be back to normal.
May 5, 2020

Because, you know, this virus is going to disappear. It’s a question of when. Will it come back in a small way? Will it come back in a fairly large way? But we know how to deal with it now much better. You know, nobody knew anything about it, initially. Now we know we can put out fires.
May 6, 2020

Well, I feel about vaccines like I feel about tests. This is going to go away without a vaccine. It’s going to go away, and it’s — we’re not going to see it again, hopefully, after a period of time. You may have some — some flare-ups and I guess, you know, I would expect that. Sometime in the fall, you’ll have flare-ups maybe. Maybe not. But according to what a lot of people say, you probably will. We’ll be able to put them out. You may have some flare-ups next year, but eventually, it’s going to be gone. I mean, it’s going to be gone.
May 8, 2020

We think we’re going to have a vaccine in the pretty near future. And if we do, we’re going to really be a big step ahead. And if we don’t, we’re going to be like so many other cases, where you had a problem come in, it’ll go away — at some point, it’ll go away. It may flare up, and it may not flare up. We’ll have to see what happens.
May 15, 2020

So I think that’s — but even without that [a vaccine or therapeutics], you know, at some point this stuff goes away and it’s going away.
June 15, 2020

I always say, even without it [a vaccine], it goes away.
June 16, 2020

if you look, the numbers are very minuscule compared to what it was. It’s dying out.
June 17, 2020

But I will tell you, we’re very close to a vaccine, and we’re very close to therapeutics, really good therapeutics. And — but even without that — I don’t even like to talk about that, because it’s fading away. It’s going to fade away.
June 17, 2020

And it is dying out. The numbers are starting to get very good.
June 18, 2020

And I think we are going to be very good with the coronavirus. I think that, at some point, that’s going to sort of just disappear, I hope.
July 1, 2020

I’ll be right eventually. I will be right eventually. You know I said, ‘It’s going to disappear.’ I’ll say it again. It’s going to disappear, and I’ll be right.
July 19, 2020

Well, the virus will disappear. It will disappear.
July 21, 2020

We’re gonna beat it, yeah. We’re going to beat it. And with time, you’re going to be it — time. You know, I say, it’s going to disappear. And they say, ‘Oh, that’s terrible.’ He said — well, it’s true. I mean, it’s going to disappear. Before it disappears, I think we can knock it out before it disappears.
July 22, 2020

This thing’s going away. It will go away like things go away…
August 5, 2020

It’s going away. No, it’ll go away like things go away. Absolutely. No question in my mind. It will go away. Hopefully sooner rather than later.
August 5, 2020

And we’re getting them [manufacturing jobs] even in a pandemic — which is disappearing; it’s going to disappear.
August 7, 2020

And frankly, you know, we’ve had a tremendous — a tremendous market, you and I have talked about that, the stock market. Think of it, we’re almost back to where we were, and we’re still in the pandemic, which will be going away, as I say, it’ll be going away. And they scream, how you can you say that? I said, because it’s gonna be going away.
August 15, 2020

And as soon as the plague is gone — we have vaccines coming, we have therapeutics coming, and it’s going to be gone. And it’s gonna be gone soon.
August 17, 2020

And the China Plague will fade.
August 17, 2020

It’s all coming back so fast and you’ll see it, and the pandemic goes away. The vaccines are going to be, I believe, announced very soon.
August 24, 2020

Well, once you get to a certain number — you know, we use the word herd, right. Once you get to a certain number, it’s going to go away.
August 31, 2020

It is gonna disappear. It’s gonna disappear. I still say it.
September 15, 2020

But it’s going to disappear. It is disappearing. And vaccines are going to help, and the therapeutics are going to help a lot.
October 10, 2020

The vaccine will end the pandemic. But it’s ending anyway. I mean, they go crazy when I say it. It’s going to peter out and it’s going to end. But we’re going to help the end and we’re gonna make it a lot faster with the vaccine and with the therapeutics and frankly with the cures.
October 15, 2020

Even without the vaccine, the pandemic’s going to end. It’s gonna run its course. It’s gonna end. They’ll go crazy. He said ‘without the vaccine’ — watch, it’ll be a headline tomorrow. These people are crazy. No, it’s running its course.
October 16, 2020

[DarrinS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lryJ2_umSg

[ducks]

Police unions across the country look to stop mandatory vaccination among officers

[pgardn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lryJ2_umSg

Because the ignorant shit put out making the ignorant believe vaccines are poison.
So how do you convince the public, especially in dense cities, that we share the air?
Why are people even taught to cover their mouths when sneezing, coughing etc...?
Why is spitting on someone considered so abominable?

"You cant force ME to... I wont... well its just not for MYSELF and MY family

We share the fkn air! ya damn fucktards... We live in frkn cities, we DO NOT subsistence farm in the US isolated from each other. We SHARE the air on trains, planes, automobiles, elevators, cars... why is this so difficult...

The real shame is that some people CANNOT get vaccinated.

[DarrinS]

Because the ignorant shit put out making the ignorant believe vaccines are poison.
So how do you convince the public, especially in dense cities, that we share the air?
Why are people even taught to cover their mouths when sneezing, coughing etc...?
Why is spitting on someone considered so abominable?

"You cant force ME to... I wont... well its just not for MYSELF and MY family

We share the fkn air! ya damn fucktards... We live in frkn cities, we DO NOT subsistence farm in the US isolated from each other. We SHARE the air on trains, planes, automobiles, elevators, cars... why is this so difficult...

The real shame is that some people CANNOT get vaccinated.

Planes, trains, and automobiles. Love that movie.

Messaging around vaccines has been a train wreck.

[Winehole23]

Very true.

Another point of continuity with Biden's predecessor and his party.

[Thread]

You'd happily die of COVID just to have it count in Biden's term wouldn't you?

On spec? Sure.

On application. I'd beg.

[Thread]

Because the ignorant shit put out making the ignorant believe vaccines are poison.
So how do you convince the public, especially in dense cities, that we share the air?
Why are people even taught to cover their mouths when sneezing, coughing etc...?
Why is spitting on someone considered so abominable?

"You cant force ME to... I wont... well its just not for MYSELF and MY family

We share the fkn air! ya damn fucktards... We live in frkn cities, we DO NOT subsistence farm in the US isolated from each other. We SHARE the air on trains, planes, automobiles, elevators, cars... why is this so difficult...

The real shame is that some people CANNOT get vaccinated.

Your side fucked up, peeg. That cocksucker in the White House called us "chumps" "sick" an "embarrassment" + went along with "deplorables" with a smirk on his cocksucker.

Sure, we're sacrificing the country, just like you did for 4 years.

That cocksucker has this coming.

Let us proceed...I got coup to count.

[ChumpDumper]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/241551515_5521836404576035_6649852155657693377_n.p ng?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=_V3MG7cAVVEAX-3F61E&tn=sgsej9iWu4yn8imH&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=0f6627a3262f14a7fa5ac17adfbf7548&oe=6162C37D
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I'll lodge the coup upon mother fucker Biden's side of the COVID Death Ledger, Dumps.

Thank you, daddy-O.

[hater]

I'm not blaming Biden. Delta variant screwed us over

Went to a party last night.. no delta.

[Blake]

I'll lodge the coup upon mother fucker Biden's side of the COVID Death Ledger, Dumps.

Thank you, daddy-O.

That's fine. Her ignorant loud mouth heading to the underworld may end up saving lives.

[hater]

That's fine. Her ignorant loud mouth heading to the underworld may end up saving lives.

Biden attempting to murder another of our citizens. Shameful display

[Winehole23]

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/932/237/4df

[Thread]

That's fine. Her ignorant loud mouth heading to the underworld may end up saving lives.

& maybe not.

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmKN4cgXgAQ9960.png

[Thread]

& maybe not.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmKN4cgXgAQ9960.png

lmcontrollinao!!!

[pgardn]

Planes, trains, and automobiles. Love that movie.

Messaging around vaccines has been a train wreck.

The fate was basically sealed with the orange guy.
He played the game of deception with a virus and set the whole machine of doubt in motion. It was already there. He let it loose, legitimized it. You dont do this with a PUBLIC health issue. Its always going to begin with the red team. History will show it. Deception and fanning the flame on populist bullshit was his modus operandi. It backfired. He is responsible for the mess and it got him tossed out of office. He purposely blamed any public health officials he could while sowing doubt in any scientific evidence.
Now we act like a third world voodoo country that curls up in the fetal position when it comes to any sort of patriotism or unification for the good of a large UNITED population. me, myself, and I. The patriots.

[Thread]

The fate was basically sealed with the orange guy.
He played the game of deception with a virus and set the whole machine of doubt in motion. It was already there. He let it loose, legitimized it. You dont do this with a PUBLIC health issue. Its always going to begin with the red team. History will show it. Deception and fanning the flame on populist bullshit was his modus operandi. It backfired. He is responsible for the mess and it got him tossed out of office. He purposely blamed any public health officials he could while sowing doubt in any scientific evidence.
Now we act like a third world voodoo country that curls up in the fetal position when it comes to any sort of patriotism or unification for the good of a large UNITED population. me, myself, and I. The patriots.

Just got to get your side to 400k + the 1.

Let us proceed...

[pgardn]

Just got to get your side to 400k + the 1.

Let us proceed...

Make it black and white so you can digest it.
Most see in shades, color, and depth its nice. Its beautiful.

[Thread]

Make it black and white so you can digest it.
Most see in shades, color, and depth its nice. Its beautiful.

Get out of my fuckin' way.

[Winehole23]

Rapid, Large-Scale Wastewater Surveillance and Automated Reporting System Enable Early Detection of Nearly 85% of COVID-19 Cases on a University Campus (https://journals.asm.org/doi/10.1128/mSystems.00793-21)

[boutons_deux]

As unvaccinated patients overrun critical care resources, doctors forced to consider care rationingA surge in cases colliding with scarce medical resources has spurred heated debate over how to ration health carehttps://www.salon.com/2021/09/11/care-rationing-ethics-vaccination/

[Winehole23]

don't forget to take off your shoes at the checkpoint

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[Winehole23]

1436472616609464324

[boutons_deux]

FreeDumb is just another word for shit for brains

Idaho Has Started to Ration Medical Care

Only patients deemed likely to survive receive treatment for COVID

https://medium.com/politically-speaking/idaho-has-started-to-ration-medical-care-a6d6e82693a8

[Thread]

FreeDumb is just another word for shit for brains

Idaho Has Started to Ration Medical Care

Only patients deemed likely to survive receive treatment for COVID

https://medium.com/politically-speaking/idaho-has-started-to-ration-medical-care-a6d6e82693a8




On Biden's time, bouts. Don't fret, kid, I'm totin'. Wouldn't miss it for money, marbles, nor chalk.

[Winehole23]

what a real lockdown looks like


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_GXQECWEAQ4Mqk?format=jpg&name=900x900

[boutons_deux]

U.S. federal government opens civil rights investigation into Florida's mask bans

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2051552

[boutons_deux]

Alabama Man Dies of Heart Failure

After 43 Hospitals With Full ICUs Turn Him Away

https://www.newsweek.com/man-dies-heart-failure-after-43-hospitals-icus-filled-covid-patients-turn-him-away-1628262

[hater]

what a real lockdown looks like


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_GXQECWEAQ4Mqk?format=jpg&name=900x900

Lol 100.year old lockdown smack

[SnakeBoy]

what a real lockdown looks like


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_GXQECWEAQ4Mqk?format=jpg&name=900x900

Tell it to your boy Failing Joe Biden

[Winehole23]

Lol 100.year old lockdown smack :cry muh freedom

[DarrinS]

Have a friend with a "rare breakthrough" infection. She's very sick. Hope she doesn't have be hospitalized.

Mid 40s

[Winehole23]

​
Have a friend with a "rare breakthrough" infection. She's very sick. Hope she doesn't have be hospitalized.

Mid 40s95% protection against hospitalization (a la Moderna) means about one out of twenty breakthrough infections will result in hospitalization. For other jabs, the protection isn’t as good.

That stat doesn’t give any info about the rate of breakthrough infections for fully vaccinated folks, what stat are you using for that and who told you they were rare? What definition of rare do you have in mind? Can you quantify it?

[hater]

Fully vaxed (2 shot) dropping like flies now in Israel tbqh

https://twitter.com/sigmabond57/status/1437401659819364353?s=19

[hater]

Where the hell are USA stats like this??? Id like to know how many JJ vaxed are dying

[RandomGuy]

Are you fine with deporting the illegals that you have to subsidize?

:lol Nathans propaganda schtick.

We don't subsidize them. As a group the evidence we have shows they are productive

Unlike you. Gtfo

[Thread]

Fully vaxed (2 shot) dropping like flies now in Israel tbqh

https://twitter.com/sigmabond57/status/1437401659819364353?s=19

Hence the booster here, come Monday. All 350 million of us, + another 30 million wet (((will be mandated to get it.)))

[Thread]

Where the hell are USA stats like this??? Id like to know how many JJ vaxed are dying

(((They're))) massaging those very stats, hater.

[hater]

(((They're))) massaging those very stats, hater.

I guess this is the best we can get:

During April 4–July 17, a total of 569,142 (92%) COVID-19 cases, 34,972 (92%) hospitalizations, and 6,132 (91%) COVID-19–associated deaths were reported among persons not fully vaccinated, and 46,312 (8%) cases, 2,976 (8%) hospitalizations, and 616 (9%) deaths were reported among fully vaccinated persons in the 13 jurisdictions (Table). The weekly prevalence of the SARS-CoV-2 Delta variant increased from <1% to 90% during April 4–July 17. Full vaccination coverage increased from 19% to 54%; in the final week, coverage ranged by age group from 45% (in persons aged 18–49 years) to 73% (≥65 years).


So 10% of deaths in US were.fully vaxed. Last month

I would think August #s will be more grim. Possibly up to 20% of deaths.vaxed? Grim business

[ChumpDumper]

Fully vaxed (2 shot) dropping like flies now in Israel tbqh

https://twitter.com/sigmabond57/status/1437401659819364353?s=19
hater falls for the Simpson effect again.

https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/what-do-new-israeli-data-say-about-effect-of-vaccines-boosters-vs-death-critical-severe-disease

TL;DR -- Vaccines worked and still work, boosted or not compared to unvaccinated. Boosters are working for those >60. Not enough data to know if boosters will make things any better for younger people because current numbers for the vaccinated in that group are just that good and not yet falling.

[Winehole23]

Airborne transmission of respiratory viruses (https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abd9149)

Improving ventilation rates to reduce the carbon dioxide levels in under-ventilated buildings from 3200 parts per million (ppm) to 600 ppm (corresponding to an estimated increase of ventilation rate from 1.7 liters per second per person to 24 liters per second per person) has been shown to reduce the secondary attack rate of tuberculosis to zero (146 (https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abd9149#pill-R146)).


Once the mechanisms leading to airborne transmission are fully understood—acknowledging that transmission by aerosols is largest at close range—it becomes clear there is an overlap in precautions and mitigation measures for both droplets and aerosols (such as distancing and masks), but extra considerations must be taken into account for mitigating aerosol transmission at both short and long ranges. These include attention to ventilation, airflows, mask fit and type, air filtration, and UV disinfection, as well as distinguishing measures between indoor and outdoor environments. Although our knowledge is still increasing, enough is already known to add protective measures to better protect against airborne transmission of respiratory viruses, noting that “droplet precautions” are not replaced but instead expanded.


Although more studies are needed, unequivocal evidence indicates that airborne transmission is a major pathway for the spread of SARS-CoV-2 and many other respiratory viruses. Additional precautionary measures must be implemented for mitigating aerosol transmission at both short and long ranges, with a major focus on ventilation, airflows, air filtration, UV disinfection, and mask fit. These interventions are critical strategies for helping end the current pandemic and preventing future outbreaks. It is important to note that these proposed measures to improve indoor air quality will lead to long overdue improvements that have health benefits extending well beyond the COVID-19 pandemic.
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abd9149

[pgardn]

Have a friend with a "rare breakthrough" infection. She's very sick. Hope she doesn't have be hospitalized.

Mid 40s

Is/was she immuno compromised and/or did she likely get maced by virus in a particular setting?
Please dont make anything up, if you dont know just say so.

[DMC]

:cry muh freedom

Freedom is so overrated unless you want to kill a fetus.

[DMC]

Have a friend with a "rare breakthrough" infection. She's very sick. Hope she doesn't have be hospitalized.

Mid 40s

Was she wearing a mask? If so that's hard to believe.

[DMC]

Is/was she immuno compromised and/or did she likely get maced by virus in a particular setting?
Please dont make anything up, if you dont know just say so.

ST's Cliff Clavin - expert on everything

[pgardn]

Freedom to picnic in the Capitol.
Bring your mace.

[Winehole23]

Freedom is so overrated unless you want to kill a fetus.Not at all. Bodily autonomy and the right to seek medical care are esssential.

[hater]

hater falls for the Simpson effect again.

https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/what-do-new-israeli-data-say-about-effect-of-vaccines-boosters-vs-death-critical-severe-disease

TL;DR -- Vaccines worked and still work, boosted or not compared to unvaccinated. Boosters are working for those >60. Not enough data to know if boosters will make things any better for younger people because current numbers for the vaccinated in that group are just that good and not yet falling.

Goalpost move duly noted.

[ChumpDumper]

Goalpost move duly noted.Moved where?

Be specific.

These are Israel's numbers.

You didn't read the article so don't act like you aren't completely ignorant here.

[DarrinS]

Is/was she immuno compromised and/or did she likely get maced by virus in a particular setting?
Please dont make anything up, if you dont know just say so.

Got it from her son. He barely had symptoms.

What part do you think I made up?

[hater]

Goalpost move duly noted.

You still wear a mask at the drive thru and most likely will get your 3rd shot up the ass before thanksgiving

Lol

[ChumpDumper]

You still wear a mask at the drive thru and most likely will get your 3rd shot up the ass before thanksgiving

Lol:lol ignorant antivaxx vaccinated hater folds without even reading the article.

Your complete surrender is duly noted.:tu

[Winehole23]

Got it from her son. He barely had symptoms.

What part do you think I made up?Secondary infections from schoolkids bringing it home could be a major pandemic driver this fall in contrast to last year. When kids have a mild disease course they can still pass it on to more vulnerable people.

[Thread]

Secondary infections from schoolkids bringing it home could be a major pandemic driver this fall in contrast to last year. When kids have a mild disease course they can still pass it on to more vulnerable people.

Put that cocksukcer in the White House right on the case, Winester.

Chop/chop.

[boutons_deux]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-8V9s6XMAIAkwK?format=png&name=medium

[ChumpDumper]

Where the hell are USA stats like this??? Id like to know how many JJ vaxed are dying

Why? You're not going to get any more shots or change anything else you're doing.

[Winehole23]

Infections down 10% from the peak

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_FsxNcWQAcPq8E?format=jpg&name=medium

Declining/levelling off in big states

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_FtgjlXEAchFqf?format=jpg&name=900x900


Sounds easy, but universal masking, broad based rapid testing and vaccination are still big asks in the USA.


1437060468347133953

[hater]

Infections down 10% from the peak

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_FsxNcWQAcPq8E?format=jpg&name=medium

Declining/levelling off in big states

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_FtgjlXEAchFqf?format=jpg&name=900x900


Sounds easy, but universal masking, broad based rapid testing and vaccination are still big asks in the USA.


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That tool is not following the science tho

Healthy Under 15 yr old are not supposed to get vaxed.

[Thread]

Infections down 10% from the peak

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_FsxNcWQAcPq8E?format=jpg&name=medium

Declining/levelling off in big states

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_FtgjlXEAchFqf?format=jpg&name=900x900


Sounds easy, but universal masking, broad based rapid testing and vaccination are still big asks in the USA.


1437060468347133953

Had a shitload of super spreader events Saturday & yesterday.

Cock sucker Biden should have 28 stacks of High Society by end of business tomorrow night.

Let us proceed...

[boutons_deux]

Desantis had his bureaucracy lying last year about covid cases and deaths (remember he fired the lady with accurate numbers), so I have no faith in any FL numbers.

[Thread]

Desantis had his bureaucracy lying last year about covid cases and deaths (remember he fired the lady with accurate numbers), so I have no faith in any FL numbers.

I'm mighty pissed off at him as well, bouts.

[Winehole23]

That tool is not following the science tho

Healthy Under 15 yr old are not supposed to get vaxed.according to one advisory panel in the UK.

that's not "the science"

there's no such thing, tbh.

[SpursforSix]

Had a shitload of super spreader events Saturday & yesterday.

Cock sucker Biden should have 28 stacks of High Society by end of business tomorrow night.

Let us proceed...

Bend over, I'll fucking show you a super spreader event.

tee hee

[hater]

according to one advisory panel in the UK.

that's not "the science"

there's no such thing, tbh.

:lmao so now theres no such thing as "the science"

:lmao

[hater]

BTW the JCVI. Is the closest thing to "the science" possible. Stop spreading disinfo


Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation
The Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation is an independent expert advisory committee that advises United Kingdom health departments on immunisation, making recommendations concerning vaccination schedules and vaccine safety.

[boutons_deux]

Funeral worker details devastating toll of COVID on 'unrecognizable' bodies

the devastating toll of COVID on the bodies of victims,

including swelling and infections that make them "unrecognizable"

We get bodies out of ICU regularly,

but not in the condition that these COVID bodies are in."

the bodies of COVID victims are "tremendously swollen" with "huge lesions" on their cheeks that have "gone gangrene" and

blood clots "the size of pancakes."

Despite specializing in post-mortem reconstruction of trauma victims,

Huey says there's little he can do in these cases.

"So the body comes out in an almost unrecognizable condition,

and then you have to explain to their family that their loved one doesn't look anything like what they should. ...

And for a lot of these families, it's just a tremendous shock."

he's noticed more victims in their 30s, 40s and 50s because most seniors are vaccinated.

The victims are also dying faster and spending less time in the ICU,

which is actually a "benefit" to embalmers because their bodies are in better condition.

Despite precautions, many embalmers have died from COVID, and

some recent mortuary school graduates have quit because they couldn't handle it after getting slammed with coronavirus victims,

https://www.rawstory.com/funeral-embalmer-describes-devastating-toll-of-on-unrecognizable-bodies-and-his-industry

Just the flu

going to zero in April's warmth

[Winehole23]

:lmao so now theres no such thing as "the science"

:lmaoyes, there never has been any such thing as "the science."

there are research programmes, designed and discussed by scientists. the expert opinion of one UK expert panel does not represent -- nor could it -- "science" as such.

it's just one interpretation of research.

[Thread]

Funeral worker details devastating toll of COVID on 'unrecognizable' bodies

the devastating toll of COVID on the bodies of victims,

including swelling and infections that make them "unrecognizable"

We get bodies out of ICU regularly,

but not in the condition that these COVID bodies are in."

https://www.rawstory.com/funeral-embalmer-describes-devastating-toll-of-on-unrecognizable-bodies-and-his-industry

It's on cocksucker Biden's tab.

[hater]

yes, there never has been any such thing as "the science."

there are research programmes, designed and discussed by scientists. the expert opinion of one UK expert panel does not represent -- nor could it -- "science" as such.

it's just one interpretation of research.

Bullshit.



BTW the JCVI. Is the closest thing to "the science" possible. Stop spreading disinfo


Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation
The Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation is an independent expert advisory committee that advises United Kingdom health departments on immunisation, making recommendations concerning vaccination schedules and vaccine safety.

[spurraider21]

You guys were body counting last year.
"we" were the ones advocating for tighter restrictions (and against pushing fake miracle cures) to prevent many of the deaths we ultimately saw

[Winehole23]

one scientific opinion among others, none of them is "the science"

[hater]

one scientific opinion among others, none of them is "the science"

Bullshit

[Winehole23]

you're stumped.

love to see it.

[Winehole23]

masking, social distancing and vaccination work, El Paso is living proof

https://npr.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/dcc09b3/2147483647/strip/true/crop/687x363+0+0/resize/880x465!/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnpr-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F71%2F1e%2F91c08d1141 0fb419e19fc5813acc%2Fscreen-shot-2021-09-13-at-8.03.50%20AM.png


“We do have a surge of patients but not to the extent that other parts of Texas are having,” she said.

Helgesen and others say much of the credit can be attributed to the area’s high vaccination rate, widespread compliance with masking and social distancing, and a strong partnership among local community and health care leaders.

“It is amazing,” Helgesen said. “It is absolutely a credit to our community. I really think it was an all-out effort.”

The share of COVID-19 tests in El Paso that come back positive is hovering around 6%, while the statewide positivity rate is three times that at 18%.
https://www.texastribune.org/2021/09/13/coronavirus-texas-el-paso/

[hater]

you're stumped.

love to see it.

The contrary. You are..

I pointed you to the proof the JCVI is one of the closest thing to "the science".there are. And they DO NOT recommend healthy under 15 to get vaxed.

Now you point me to anything close to this that recommend vaxing under 15 yer old. BTW th WHO also dont recomment it.

[hater]

Deathsantis looking fatter and fatter every day :lol


https://twitter.com/JackLinFLL/status/1437462355093372933?s=19

[hater]

https://twitter.com/kynohy/status/1436401447416045569?s=19

[Winehole23]

based on scientific research and advice, Canada, the EU, Israel, Japan, New Zealand, the Philppines and the US have all vaccinated people younger than 15 years old.

[boutons_deux]

https://www.laprogressive.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/mandates-are-tyranny-1200-1024x791.jpg

[hater]

https://twitter.com/sputnikvaccine/status/1437325298920525828?s=19

[ElNono]

Fully vaxed (2 shot) dropping like flies now in Israel tbqh

https://twitter.com/sigmabond57/status/1437401659819364353?s=19

2-Moderna & Pfizer are 90%+ effective at preventing severe illness and death.

Not against Delta... At least not Pfizer... see:

https://scitechdaily.com/covid-19-vaccines-effective-against-delta-variant-how-pfizer-moderna-and-jj-compare/

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/sputnikvaccine/status/1437325298920525828?s=19

"Whilst the two-dose schedule continues to be the main strategy in Russia, the use of Sputnik Light has been approved for emergency use. To our knowledge, this is the first study reporting on the effectiveness of Sputnik V in the real-world; and the information provided on its prevention of 78·6% of laboratory-confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infections, 87·6% of hospitalisations and 84·8% of deaths from COVID-19 with one dose is in line with the results of studies of other vaccines."

:lol hater falls for the propaganda every time.

[hater]

2-Moderna & Pfizer are 90%+ effective at preventing severe illness and death.

Not against Delta... At least not Pfizer... see:

https://scitechdaily.com/covid-19-vaccines-effective-against-delta-variant-how-pfizer-moderna-and-jj-compare/

:tu

Good stuff

Thanks

[ElNono]

From the same article:

“Despite the differences in effectiveness, vaccines continue to offer much more protection than not getting one at all,” said Dr. Grannis. “While breakthrough cases do happen, data shows the symptoms are less severe. The vast majority of COVID hospitalizations and deaths continue to be among unvaccinated individuals. COVID-19 vaccines are powerful tools for combating the pandemic.”

[Thread]

From the same article:

“Despite the differences in effectiveness, vaccines continue to offer much more protection than not getting one at all,” said Dr. Grannis. “While breakthrough cases do happen, data shows the symptoms are less severe. The vast majority of COVID hospitalizations and deaths continue to be among unvaccinated individuals. COVID-19 vaccines are powerful tools for combating the pandemic.”

I got it, chief, and will it apply all to mother fucker Biden's side of the COVID Death Ledger.

[boutons_deux]

U.S. COVID Deaths Highest Since March,

With Mississippi Hit Hardest

with an average of around 1,600 U.S. citizens dying as a result of the disease every day.

The southern states of the U.S. continue to be among the hardest hit, :lol the failed Confederacy loses again

If the weekly average number of deaths per day in the county remains at around 1,600,

the total number of COVID deaths could reach 700,000 by early October.

https://www.newsweek.com/us-covid-deaths-highest-march-mississippi-hit-hardest-1628357

[hater]

U.S. COVID Deaths Highest Since March,

With Mississippi Hit Hardest

with an average of around 1,600 U.S. citizens dying as a result of the disease every day.

The southern states of the U.S. continue to be among the hardest hit, :lol the failed Confederacy loses again

If the weekly average number of deaths per day in the county remains at around 1,600,

the total number of COVID deaths could reach 700,000 by early October.

https://www.newsweek.com/us-covid-deaths-highest-march-mississippi-hit-hardest-1628357

Biden anihilating mofos :wow

[hater]

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1437559312222724103?s=19

[hater]

Resigned FDA experts write paper on Lancet against boosters :tu

Damn they are so pissed they even went directly to the Lancet :wow

https://twitter.com/akaRaulVasquez/status/1437444165672087557?s=19


:lmao Falsuchi :lol


Another epic failure by the "good" dr :lol

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1434624651033026563?s=19

[hater]

:lol Falsuchi

https://twitter.com/ggecko6/status/1437534694321557505?s=19

[ChumpDumper]

We'll know whether boosters are good for the general public around the time the general public will be getting boosters.:tu

[Adam Lambert]

:lol Falsuchi

https://twitter.com/ggecko6/status/1437534694321557505?s=19

What is @ggecko6's source that vaxed people have a higher infection rate than natural immune?

:lol 34 followers

[ElNono]

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1434624651033026563?s=19

:tu

[ElNono]

What is @ggecko6's source that vaxed people have a higher infection rate than natural immune?

:lol 34 followers

:lol twitter "experts"

[hater]

:lol

https://twitter.com/michaeldaaboul/status/1437567701325471745?s=19

[hater]

‘Leaky’ Vaccines Can Produce Stronger Versions of Viruses
Written by Roberta Alexander — Updated on April 5, 2019
By studying chickens, researchers say they have proven the theory that more virulent viruses can evolve from so-called “leaky” vaccines.

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/leaky-vaccines-can-produce-stronger-versions-of-viruses-072715

According to a new study published today in the scientific journal PLOS Biology, some types of vaccines could allow more virulent versions of a virus to survive, putting those who are unvaccinated at greater risk of severe illness.

To understand this, it’s necessary to examine the difference between “perfect” vaccines and “leaky” ones.

Perfect vaccines are so-named because they mimic the perfect immunity that humans naturally develop after having certain childhood disease.

“When a vaccine works perfectly, as do the childhood vaccines for smallpox, polio, mumps, rubella and measles, it prevents vaccinated individuals from being sickened by the disease, and it also prevents them from transmitting the virus to others,” said Andrew Read, an author of the study and an Evan Pugh professor of biology and entomology and Eberly professor in biotechnology at Penn State University.

After experiments done in a specialized pathogen-containment facility at The Pirbright Institute in the United Kingdom, the researchers concluded that the vaccines developed to combat Marek’s disease were imperfect or leaky.

“These vaccines also allow the virulent virus to continue evolving precisely because they allow the vaccinated individuals, and therefore themselves, to survive,” said Venugopal Nair, who led the research team. He is the head of the Avian Viral Diseases program at The Pirbright Institute.

These less-than-perfect vaccines create a “leaky” barrier against the virus. Vaccinated individuals may get sick but have less severe symptoms, but the virus survives long enough to transmit to others, which allows it to survive and spread throughout a population.

“Our research demonstrates that the use of leaky vaccines can promote the evolution of nastier ‘hot’ viral strains that put unvaccinated individuals at greater risk,” Nair said.

[hater]

When vaccines prevent transmission, as is the case for nearly all vaccines used in humans, this type of evolution towards increased virulence is blocked. But when vaccines leak, allowing at least some pathogen transmission, they could create the ecological conditions that would allow hot strains to emerge and persist. This theory proved highly controversial when it was first proposed over a decade ago, but here we report experiments with Marek’s disease virus in poultry that show that modern commercial leaky vaccines can have precisely this effect: they allow the onward transmission of strains otherwise too lethal to persist. Thus, the use of leaky vaccines can facilitate the evolution of pathogen strains that put unvaccinated hosts at greater risk of severe disease. The future challenge is to identify whether there are other types of vaccines used in animals and humans that might also generate these evolutionary risks.


:pctoss. No wonder Israel is fucked

And were next

[Winehole23]

gullible hater

[ChumpDumper]

When vaccines prevent transmission, as is the case for nearly all vaccines used in humans, this type of evolution towards increased virulence is blocked. But when vaccines leak, allowing at least some pathogen transmission, they could create the ecological conditions that would allow hot strains to emerge and persist. This theory proved highly controversial when it was first proposed over a decade ago, but here we report experiments with Marek’s disease virus in poultry that show that modern commercial leaky vaccines can have precisely this effect: they allow the onward transmission of strains otherwise too lethal to persist. Thus, the use of leaky vaccines can facilitate the evolution of pathogen strains that put unvaccinated hosts at greater risk of severe disease. The future challenge is to identify whether there are other types of vaccines used in animals and humans that might also generate these evolutionary risks.


:pctoss. No wonder Israel is fucked

And were nextDoesn't look like there's anything left for you to do but end it all now.:tu

[Thread]

Doesn't look like there's anything left for you to do but end it all now.:tu

Oh, no, you don't, Dumps, I'm gonna watch that cocksucker in the White House bear witness as CNN smooths it all out for him.
"See, Jill, we're ok."

tee, hee.

[hater]

Oh, no, you don't, Dumps, I'm gonna watch that cocksucker in the White House bear witness as CNN smooths it all out for him.
"See, Jill, we're ok."

tee, hee.

Biden gonna pass Trump in mass murders sometime around this time next year

[ChumpDumper]

Biden gonna pass Trump in mass murders sometime around this time next year

Will your inevitable suicide count?

[Adam Lambert]

What is @ggecko6's source that vaxed people have a higher infection rate than natural immune?

:lol 34 followers

hater was up all night but I guess he didn't get around to answering this one. Better to shitpost stuff that gets people killed. What a sad piece of shit.

[Winehole23]

NYC ain't playin around

New pandemic rules for NYC restaurants, city workers, schools in effect (https://www.fox5ny.com/news/new-pandemic-rules-for-nyc-restuarants-police-schools-go-into-effect-monday)

[hater]

hater was up all night but I guess he didn't get around to answering this one. Better to shitpost stuff that gets people killed. What a sad piece of shit.


Israel study showed natural immunity >>> vax immunity


https://twitter.com/travismsnow86/status/1436556491146858499?s=19


:lol Lamebert

[Winehole23]

Israel study showed natural immunity >>> vax immunity


https://twitter.com/travismsnow86/status/1436556491146858499?s=19"the science" isn't over yet. it never is.


Vaccine-specific CD4+ T cell, CD8+ T cell, binding antibody, and neutralizing antibody responses to the 25-μg Moderna mRNA-1273 vaccine were examined over 7 months post-immunization, including multiple age groups, with a particular interest in assessing whether pre-existing cross-reactive T cell memory impacts vaccine-generated immunity. Vaccine-generated spike-specific memory CD4+ T cells 6 months post-boost were comparable in quantity and quality to COVID-19 cases, including the presence of T follicular helper cells and IFNγ-expressing cells. Spike-specific CD8+ T cells were generated in 88% of subjects, with equivalent memory at 6 months post-boost compared to COVID-19 cases. https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abj9853

[Winehole23]

Massachusetts National Guard Activated To Help Deal With School Bus Driver Shortage (https://boston.cbslocal.com/2021/09/13/massachusetts-national-guard-activated-school-bus-driver-shortage/)

[DarrinS]

1437105028494503936

[ChumpDumper]

1437105028494503936Not quite as advertised when you actually watch it.

[hater]

Not quite as advertised when you actually watch it.

Exactly as advertised

"We need to be completely ... more scary to the public"


"We can talk offline more about this with marketing"


"We need to be more forceful and say you dont get vaccinated you gonna die"


:lmao

[Winehole23]

wanna keep schools open?

more masking might help


While the state Department of Health and Human Services said it does not have data on the number of pupils quarantined statewide or the share of those forced to miss school without a remote learning option, districts without mask-wearing requirements are seeing substantially more spread of the virus and hours of lost learning among students.https://fortwaynesnbc.com/2021/09/07/the-latest-merkel-says-vaccinated-arent-guinea-pigs/

[ChumpDumper]

Exactly as advertised

"We need to be completely ... more scary to the public"


"We can talk offline more about this with marketing"


"We need to be more forceful and say you dont get vaccinated you gonna die"


:lmaoDid they actually adopt this policy?

Yes or no.

:lol hater folds

Called it!

[ChumpDumper]

wanna keep schools open?

more masking might help

https://fortwaynesnbc.com/2021/09/07/the-latest-merkel-says-vaccinated-arent-guinea-pigs/No supply issues either. N95s all around.

[hater]

Did they actually adopt this policy?

Yes or no.

:lol hater folds

Called it!

Not sure. Thats not what was advertised in the tweet

Lol chump

[ChumpDumper]

Not sure. Thats not what was advertised in the tweet "Senior doctors discuss inflating COVID numbers by counting recovered patients as active COVID patients."

Is still in the hospital a month due to COVID after clearing the virus actually recovered?

Yes or no.

[hater]

"Senior doctors discuss inflating COVID numbers by counting recovered patients as active COVID patients."

Is still in the hospital a month due to COVID after clearing the virus actually recovered?

Yes or no.

Sure they are. They test negative for covid means they have no more covid.

This aint rocket science :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Sure they are. They test negative for covid means they have no more covid.

This aint rocket science :lolStill hospitalized due to COVID.:tu

[hater]

Still hospitalized due to COVID.:tu

If someone tests negavite Covid PCR do they still have covid. Yes or no

[DarrinS]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/our-most-reliable-pandemic-number-is-losing-meaning/ar-AAOoWoE?ocid=uxbndlbing

[ChumpDumper]

If someone tests negavite Covid PCR do they still have covid. Yes or noAlready established.

Are they still hospitalized due to COVID?

Yes or no.

This is what they were discussing so try not to change the subject again.:tu

[ChumpDumper]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/our-most-reliable-pandemic-number-is-losing-meaning/ar-AAOoWoE?ocid=uxbndlbingAnother win for vaccines.:tu

[hater]

Already established.

Are they still hospitalized due to COVID?

Yes or no.

This is what they were discussing so try not to change the subject again.:tu

So yes is your answer?

If someone tests NEGATIVE for COVID they still have COVID??????

[ChumpDumper]

So yes is your answer?

If someone tests NEGATIVE for COVID they still have COVID??????The discussion is about people who have cleared the virus but are still hospitalized because of it.

Why are you trying so desperately to change the subject?

Are you stupid?

[hater]

The discussion is about people who have cleared the virus but are still hospitalized because of it.

Why are you trying so desperately to change the subject?

Are you stupid?

No the discussion is to count patients with Covid at the hospital. If you tested negative.you cannot be considered a patient WITH covid at the hospital.

You cant seriously be this fucking stupid :lol

Im ok with adding a new metric called "Patients still at the hospital that came in with Covid but have since tested negative" :tu

[ChumpDumper]

No the discussion is to count patients with Covid at the hospital. If you tested negative.you cannot be considered a patient WITH covid at the hospital.So you admit you are stupid.:tu

If you ever figure out what they were actually talking about, post again. Otherwise, take a break from twitter.

[Thread]

So you admit you are stupid.:tu

If you ever figure out what they were actually talking about, post again. Otherwise, take a break from twitter.

...yeah, you'd like that. You thought that Twitter was your domain, your's & your's alone. Alas, it ain't. Access it all you want, hater. I want to see Dumps try and make you stop.

[hater]

So you admit you are stupid.:tu

If you ever figure out what they were actually talking about, post again. Otherwise, take a break from twitter.

:lmao The Folding

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao The FoldingYeah, your folding was entertaining at one time. Now it's just sad because you're stupid.:tu

:lol vaxxed antivaxxer*





























*Except the Russian vaccine because you think Putin isn't a dictator.:lol

[Adam Lambert]

Im ok with adding a new metric called "Patients still at the hospital that came in with Covid but have since tested negative" :tu

What is the value of that metric? Are they taking up a hospital bed or not? Did COVID put them there or not?

[hater]

What is the value of that metric? Are they taking up a hospital bed or not? Did COVID put them there or not?

You just answered your question :tu

Good metric :tu

[Adam Lambert]

You just answered your question :tu

Good metric :tu

Why is it good? What is the value of understanding the specific number of recovered COVID patients still taking up a hospital bed? Why is that substantially better than lumping them together as COVID patients?

[Winehole23]

COVID-related "death panels"

1437662073412980739

[ChumpDumper]

COVID-related "death panels"

1437662073412980739The potted plants are a nice touch tbh.

[Adam Lambert]

COVID-related "death panels"

1437662073412980739

Fuck that. Triage the unvaccinated.

[Winehole23]

Fresno County, CA warns it may have to start rationing care

1437436305600925696

[hater]

Why is it good? What is the value of understanding the specific number of recovered COVID patients still taking up a hospital bed? Why is that substantially better than lumping them together as COVID patients?

You cannot just lump them together. That would defeat the whole purpose of tracking COVID hospitalizations. (Patients with COVID taking up bed in COVID ward)

Of course theres value in.tracking Recovered COVID patients and those who have not recovered yet. Lol

[Winehole23]

Fuck that. Triage the unvaccinated.wouldn't be surprised if that's happening somewhere; unvaxxed on vents aren't doing so well comparatively.

edit:

here's Hawaii's rules: https://www.scribd.com/document/524680816/Hawaii-Crisis-Standards-of-Care-Triage-Allocation-Plan-and-FAQs

[Adam Lambert]

You cannot just lump them together. That would defeat the whole purpose of tracking COVID hospitalizations. (Patients with COVID taking up bed in COVID ward)

If the purpose of tracking COVID hospitalizations is to determine how many beds are taken as a result of COVID, then whether or not they still have COVID seems to be an irrelevant distinction to that purpose, unless you believe we should vacate those beds once the patient tests negative.


Of course theres value in.tracking Recovered COVID patients and those who have not recovered yet. Lol

Then what is that value?

[hater]

The purpose of tracking COVID hospitalizations is to determine how many beds are taken as a result of COVID. Whether or not they still have COVID seems to be an irrelevant distinction to that purpose, unless you believe we should vacate those beds once the patient tests negative.



Then what is that value?

Recovery from COVID. See definition from CDC:

Patients who are symptomatic:

Resolution of fever without the use of fever-reducing medications andSymptoms (e.g., cough, shortness of breath) have improved, andResults are negative from at least two consecutive respiratory specimens collected ≥24 hours apart (total of two negative specimens) tested using an FDA-authorized laboratory-based NAAT to detect SARS-CoV-2 RNA. See Interim Guidelines for Collecting, Handling, and Testing Clinical Specimens for 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV).


This simply means the person has beat the virus. Its a success. Of course it has to be tracked.

If you lump these together w.metric 9f 0pl staying in hospital for other reasons then you are clouding the data.

[ChumpDumper]

wouldn't be surprised if that's happening somewhere; unvaxxed on vents aren't doing so well comparatively.

edit:

here's Hawaii's rules: https://www.scribd.com/document/524680816/Hawaii-Crisis-Standards-of-Care-Triage-Allocation-Plan-and-FAQs

That has to have been updated in the past year. Shitty that they don't make stuff like this public de rigueur.

[Adam Lambert]

Recovery from COVID. See definition from CDC:

Patients who are symptomatic:

Resolution of fever without the use of fever-reducing medications andSymptoms (e.g., cough, shortness of breath) have improved, andResults are negative from at least two consecutive respiratory specimens collected ≥24 hours apart (total of two negative specimens) tested using an FDA-authorized laboratory-based NAAT to detect SARS-CoV-2 RNA. See Interim Guidelines for Collecting, Handling, and Testing Clinical Specimens for 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV).

This simply means the person has beat the virus. Its a success. Of course it has to be tracked.

If you lump these together w.metric 9f 0pl staying in hospital for other reasons then you are clouding the data.

They are tracked. We keep track of deaths and death rate. If they recover, they're not tracked as a death. Why is the specific detail of "recovered but still in the hospital" an important distinction when it comes to tracking recovery?

[hater]

They are tracked. We keep track of deaths and death rate. If they recover, they're not tracked as a death. Why is the specific detail of "recovered but still in the hospital" an important distinction when it comes to tracking recovery?

Because they recovered from.COVID. very important metric. Great to see which hospitals treat COVID with success.and which dont :tu

Its ok to disagree :tu

[Adam Lambert]

Because they recovered from.COVID. very important metric. Great to see which hospitals treat COVID with success.and which dont :tu

Its ok to disagree :tu

When patients recover, they are released, and they are no longer hospitalizations. If a patient is no longer infected with COVID but still dies of COVID related complications, that's not a recovery nor a success.

[Winehole23]

lol griping about juiced stats when COVID is causing health care to be rationed and forcing schools to be closed

[ChumpDumper]

lol griping about juiced stats when COVID is causing health care to be rationed and forcing schools to be closed
:lol right?

How juiced could they possibly be at this point?

[hater]

Israel ticking up again. Time to finalize that 4th shot and prepare the 5th. Grim business

https://twitter.com/Mehierveelbuche/status/1437840332255899652?s=19

[Thread]

Israel ticking up again. Time to finalize that 4th shot and prepare the 5th. Grim business

https://twitter.com/Mehierveelbuche/status/1437840332255899652?s=19

"Mazel, mazel, good things."

[koriwhat]

follow "the science" to your own grave... fuck "the science" or better yet the television and its talking heads with their fear porn.

[ChumpDumper]

Israel ticking up again. Time to finalize that 4th shot and prepare the 5th. Grim business

https://twitter.com/Mehierveelbuche/status/1437840332255899652?s=19Deaths are about half what they were during the last wave.

Thanks for proving vaccines work, hater....again....:lol

[hater]

Deaths are about half what they were during the last wave.

Thanks for proving vaccines work, hater....again....:lol

Not that great given the way they treat Covid has probably improved a.lot.

To think w the.improved.therapies and a very good vax they probably would have less.than a tenth of d deaths.

Noone vaxed should really be dying. But seems 35% of their dead are fully vaxed :pctoss

[baseline bum]

Damn, Bexar County's positivity rate was dropping fast for a while, but now the positivity rate only inched down to 7.1% from 7.6% the previous week.

[DarrinS]

Damn, Bexar County's positivity rate was dropping fast for a while, but now the positivity rate only inched down to 7.1% from 7.6% the previous week.


Still going down tho

[hater]

The good old days when vaccines were perfect.....

https://twitter.com/wmalnews/status/1437803765168492546?s=19

[Ef-man]

The good old days when vaccines were perfect.....

https://twitter.com/wmalnews/status/1437803765168492546?s=19

The good old days when people got vaccines without conducting their own “internet research” nor listening to tweeter experts.

[ChumpDumper]

Not that great :lmao it's amazing you vaxxed antivax moron