Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

[ElNono]

:lol Breitbart

[baseline bum]

Unless it is a n95 the mask do not work

The mask isn't to protect you. It's to protect others from you if you're asymptomatic and don't know you're positive.

[ChumpDumper]

Haven't seen a single post like this one age well in this pandemic... hoping this is the exception to the ruleYou'd think the people who have already eaten so much shit would put down the spoon.

[baseline bum]

Haven't seen a single post like this one age well in this pandemic... hoping this is the exception to the rule

Hope so too even if it means DarrinS can dunk on me like we all have been doing to cubby.

[slick'81]

The mask isn't to protect you. It's to protect others from you if you're asymptomatic and don't know you're positive.


Those droplets base

[Winehole23]

People who resent the Reagan amnesty don't remember or selectively forget that they had Reagan and Bush and Clinton and Bush to thank for it. The rest I presume belong to the far right shithole that seems to have taken over the GOP.

[DarrinS]

Haven't seen a single post like this one age well in this pandemic... hoping this is the exception to the rule

I waited two weeks. Was there a massive outbreak after Wisconsin election? After Michigan protests?

[picnroll]

Unless it is a n95 the mask do not work

Dr Quack. :lmao

[baseline bum]

Not wearing a mask when going out to the store, to pick up some to-go food, to get gas, etc is just telling everyone fuck you, I don't give a shit about you.

[DarrinS]

People who resent the Reagan amnesty don't remember or selectively forget that they had Reagan and Bush and Clinton and Bush to thank for it. The rest I presume belong to the far right shithole that seems to have taken over the GOP.


^random

[DarrinS]

Not wearing a mask when going out to the store, to pick up some to-go food, to get gas, etc is just telling everyone fuck you, I don't give a shit about you.

Or just ignorant. I wear one when I go to the store, etc.

[ducks]

The mask isn't to protect you. It's to protect others from you if you're asymptomatic and don't know you're positive.

Sorry the nurse told me it does not work unless it is a n95mask
And actually the mask is worse if not n95

[baseline bum]

Sorry the nurse told me it does not work unless it is a n95mask
And actually the mask is worse if not n95

You probably didn't understand her.

[pgardn]

Sorry the nurse told me it does not work unless it is a n95mask
And actually the mask is worse if not n95

The nurse...

Wow.

[slick'81]

The nurse...

Wow.


And he fixes computers :lol

[hater]

Sorry the nurse told me it does not work unless it is a n95mask
And actually the mask is worse if not n95

dont be stupid

a face covering yes even a scarf reduces chances of YOU infecting others

if everyone wears one chances are reduced exponentially

dont be stupid

[slick'81]

dont be stupid

a face covering yes even a scarf reduces chances of YOU infecting others

if everyone wears one chances are reduced exponentially

dont be stupid

you mean if we all wear masks the speard is reduced? Wtf woulda thought..lol ducks

[ElNono]

Poll: Majority of Americans say coronavirus testing responsibility falls on federal government

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/12/coronavirus-testing-responsibility-federal-government-251894

[BSfromTX]

N95 is better, that is why health care providers are required to wear it. They are in closer proximity so they need the additional protection (for both). The surgical masks everyone is wearing is good enough, but doesn’t seal around the face well enough, but if social distancing and wearing it correctly, it should be fine

[TDMVPDPOY]

N95 is better, that is why health care providers are required to wear it. They are in closer proximity so they need the additional protection (for both). The surgical masks everyone is wearing is good enough, but doesn’t seal around the face well enough, but if social distancing and wearing it correctly, it should be fine

WEAR a helmet then

[Blake]

22 Times more likely to become millionaire than to die of covid

Not as a computer repair guy

[Blake]

Or just ignorant.

no I don't buy that. The only reason to not wear a mask is that you're a cold hearted bitch

[DMC]

Whining about other posters is approximately lemonade strength -- zero proof -- with a similar texture. Dilute and somewhat tart.

I've about figured you out - you're drunk most of the time. You fuckin' lush.

[DMC]

N95 is better, that is why health care providers are required to wear it. They are in closer proximity so they need the additional protection (for both). The surgical masks everyone is wearing is good enough, but doesn’t seal around the face well enough, but if social distancing and wearing it correctly, it should be fine

You don't need a seal to prevent droplets from escaping when you cough or breathe. The mask isn't doing shit to keep you from contracting the illness though. For that you'd need a seal, you'd need eye protection and gloves with a strict protocol on how to remove and apply them.

[clambake]

You don't need a seal to prevent droplets from escaping when you cough or breathe. The mask isn't doing shit to keep you from contracting the illness though. For that you'd need a seal, you'd need eye protection and gloves with a strict protocol on how to remove and apply them.

Mmmm duh

Look at you trying to educate your fellow rubes. Just stay in so you don’t have to see their faces and hear their chuckles

[DMC]

Mmmm duh

Look at you trying to educate your fellow rubes. Just stay in so you don’t have to see their faces and hear their chuckles

Bend over, I'll stay in.

[clambake]

You see their faces

You hear the chuckles

[clambake]

Sorry

I can’t imagine what that must be like

Sorry

[phxspurfan]

In AZ today (trumptown)



No one wearing masks





Everyone gathering

[slick'81]

In AZ today (trumptown)



No one wearing masks





Everyone gathering



People really want to believe it cant happen to them.Besides the government says its ok

[boutons_deux]

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=c5ffe9fe07&attid=0.1&permmsgid=msg-a:r-2677276443908095517&th=1720e00daee2066c&view=fimg&sz=s0-l75-ft&attbid=ANGjdJ-TLVF0gewZIt4lWx0xU41egFPQaUW9YVnoBa5WhA6ASYNWlzfHc dmdLurrVZiEg1GLRH3Er1M6L83qkONX7DFQm6Uaauv_LhhGVrq TAINYnD9KltW7TpRqqbg&disp=emb&realattid=ii_ka5bjo0k0

What a leader!

the forsight and courage to do, like Repug Trickie Dick Nixon, The Right Thing, not Popular Thing

Heckuva job, Donnie

[DMC]

The end is near.

[boutons_deux]

The end is near.

how's the view up your end?

[hater]

:lmao Europes “social distancing” after reopening :lmao

yeah leaders really know what they are doing :lmao :lmao

https://twitter.com/Jay_Bits_/status/1260441039938236420?s=20

:lmao at someone coughing in the background :lol

:lmao at this petri dish

https://twitter.com/LagartoRojo1974/status/1260479972898193409?s=20


obviously our leaders including ameridumbs have given up containment

why cant they admit it and move on?

[hater]

“social distancing”

“herd immunity”

all those concepts are mere myths or theories. they will never be reality in practice.

humans are too fucking dumb and stupid plus those are abstract concepts that can have many interpretations.

dont expect governments to do the right thing here. do what u feel is best for u and your families nigs.

[boutons_deux]

Fox News’ campaign

to ‘put a target’ on Dr. Fauci’s back

exposed by CNN supercut

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=Hv984jTP1KI&feature=emb_logo
Fox News is going after Fauci (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/05/ring-wing-smear-artist-who-targeted-dr-fauci-has-a-long-dubious-history-will-he-finally-go-to-prison/)

because “he has so much credibility and because, as a scientist,

he seems to bring nothing but sober analysis and projections about this virus.”


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=Hv984jTP1KI&feature=emb_lo go

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/05/fox-news-campaign-to-put-a-target-on-dr-faucis-back-exposed-by-cnn-supercut/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4516

Fox implying that Fauci is lying, to encourage Fox's ignorant viewers to get back to normal, associating life, committing Fox as guilty of complicity in Trash's criminal negligent manslaughter

[CosmicCowboy]

just grabbed breakfast at the QT...half the people wearing masks didn't have their noses covered...seems kind of pointless.

[slick'81]

just grabbed breakfast at the QT...half the people wearing masks didn't have their noses covered...seems kind of pointless.


Like having your dick hanging out in public

[Dirks_Finale]

:lol
Bend over, I'll stay in.

[Sportcamper]

just grabbed breakfast at the QT...half the people wearing masks didn't have their noses covered...seems kind of pointless.

I was out on my morning bike ride and saw an elderly couple holding hands and chatting while they were on their morning walk. No gloves, no masks, total disregard for the 6’ safe distancing rules! Believe you me I stopped to chew them out for not respecting my safety!

[boutons_deux]

just grabbed breakfast at the QT...half the people wearing masks didn't have their noses covered...seems kind of pointless.

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/96371853_10223443120973004_6710971848374353920_n.j pg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_sid=ca434c&_nc_ohc=1GeloXo6pikAX_qQ2KM&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=6160fb46c7ac3fe9289e1beb943cbfda&oe=5EE0930B
maskless in Walmart

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/96291015_2645309242459051_2319435562798284800_o.jp g?_nc_cat=106&_nc_sid=ca434c&_nc_ohc=yoNp203UG0UAX_efpGW&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&_nc_tp=7&oh=191393b70479cc755295b2faf61de404&oe=5EE045B5

[CosmicCowboy]

I was out on my morning bike ride and saw an elderly couple holding hands and chatting while they were on their morning walk. No gloves, no masks, total disregard for the 6’ safe distancing rules! Believe you me I stopped to chew them out for not respecting my safety!

Holy Shit! Blast from the past!

[BSfromTX]

You don't need a seal to prevent droplets from escaping when you cough or breathe. The mask isn't doing shit to keep you from contracting the illness though. For that you'd need a seal, you'd need eye protection and gloves with a strict protocol on how to remove and apply them.

I agree. There are tons of "what ifs" such as proper use and disposal.

I'm just saying what the CDC is recommending and why. The CDC states that a surgical mask and shield is NOT an adequate substitute for the N-95. I'm just stating it. I'm not trying to defend any of it.

[RandomGuy]

https://www.salon.com/2020/05/12/leaked-white-house-data-shows-infections-spiking-more-than-1000-in-rural-areas-that-backed-trump
Leaked White House data shows infections spiking more than 1,000% in rural areas that backed Trump


eaked unreleased White House coronavirus task force report showing cases spiking in areas across the country has undercut President Donald Trump's claim that cases are declining across the nation.

"You know, the numbers are coming down very rapidly all throughout the country, by the way," Trump declared at a Monday news conference. "There may be one exception, but all throughout the country, the numbers are coming down rapidly."

This is, of course, not true. Though cases are decreasing in 14 states, they are rising in nine states, according to The New York Times. A lack of widespread testing in 27 other states, plus Washington and Puerto Rico, suggests that cases in those areas are being undercounted.

But a leaked coronavirus task force report obtained by NBC News shows that some parts of the country — rural counties in Tennessee and Kansas — have seen cases balloon by more than 1,000% in a matter of one week. Other counties in Missouri, Nebraska, Minnesota and Wisconsin saw increases of more than 400%.

[RandomGuy]

just grabbed breakfast at the QT...half the people wearing masks didn't have their noses covered...seems kind of pointless.

Welcome to the coming spike. It is already happening where they are seeing some pretty hefty increases.

Inevitable.

[hater]

You don't need a seal to prevent droplets from escaping when you cough or breathe. The mask isn't doing shit to keep you from contracting the illness though. For that you'd need a seal, you'd need eye protection and gloves with a strict protocol on how to remove and apply them.

you are never going to achieve 100% safety or even CDC/Medical standard safety in a grocery store even in hazmat suit :lol

too many variables

but proper use of N95 mask with distance and hand washing/cleaning after going to store will reduce your chances of contracting anything greatly

common sense

its like wearing a seatbelt

[CosmicCowboy]

San Antonio is still doing OK. Dial out the nursing homes and the jail and there are damn few cases.

[Winehole23]

I've about figured you out - you're drunk most of the time. You fuckin' lush.I enjoy my wine, but I don't drink every day. Nice try!

[Winehole23]

San Antonio is still doing OK. Dial out the nursing homes and the jail and there are damn few cases.Can't be dialed out. Infections spread from jails and nursing homes when workers go home.

[Spurs Homer]

You don't need a seal to prevent droplets from escaping when you cough or breathe. The mask isn't doing shit to keep you from contracting the illness though. For that you'd need a seal, you'd need eye protection and gloves with a strict protocol on how to remove and apply them.

you don't need any of that shit

if its just a Democrat Hoax!

[CosmicCowboy]

One good things the masks do is remind you not to touch yor face.

[boutons_deux]

Trash and sycophants proceed with negligent homicide (as if Trash's re-election were possibly salvageable)

AP Exclusive: CDC guidance more restrictive than White House

Advice from the top U.S. disease control experts on how to safely reopen businesses and institutions during the coronavirus pandemic (https://apnews.com/VirusOutbreak)

was more detailed and restrictive than the plan released by the White House last month.

The guidance, which was shelved by Trump administration officials (https://apnews.com/7a00d5fba3249e573d2ead4bd323a4d4)[COLOR=#000000],

also offered recommendations to help communities decide when to shut facilities down again during future flareups of COVID-19.

https://apnews.com/d4fb9744fb3524b6aaff1036f3ba9cd2?utm_source=piano&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=morningwire&pnespid=jOM8qOpJV1ON6WtMrX8GVg91ACNAz2FNh4ZG7Gi5 (https://apnews.com/d4fb9744fb3524b6aaff1036f3ba9cd2?utm_source=piano&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=morningwire&pnespid=jOM8qOpJV1ON6WtMrX8GVg91ACNAz2FNh4ZG7Gi5)
Click to copy

So you right wing assholes still think All Politics, All The Time, Everywhere is a harmless strategy?

[tholdren]

you are never going to achieve 100% safety or even CDC/Medical standard safety in a grocery store even in hazmat suit :lol

too many variables

common sense


I

[boutons_deux]

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=c5ffe9fe07&attid=0.1&permmsgid=msg-a:r-7756168038634348694&th=1720e8d3f3a44264&view=fimg&sz=s0-l75-ft&attbid=ANGjdJ8M8JF_Y_X8zHnyEq3xVKKOGqmCRG0PT2Ab7aJ G0LL9z5EMKJYSRWL4NBdvXfdhyFUycJfUAoxZHAcj539M_GTvc Ddx8rVdojz921pUu2W58jH_ngxXdnYwI5s&disp=emb&realattid=ii_ka5h0id80

[Play Boban]

mask r for pansy

[TimDunkem]

Lol "Dial out"

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/1260600693464932354?s=20

Remember the propaganda pushers and lemmings blamed Trump for the abusive Democrat lady that killed her husband? Remember when they also pushed the story that people consuming disinfectant because of Trump? These people are agenda driven liars.

[Blake]

https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/1260600693464932354?s=20

Remember the propaganda pushers and lemmings blamed Trump for the abusive Democrat lady that killed her husband? Remember when they also pushed the story that people consuming disinfectant because of Trump? These people are agenda driven liars.

Timely!

[Spurs Homer]

Remember - when our mortal enemy - Russia - was nice enough to send us some Covid - supplies and Trump stupidly accepted -

I warned about it - but - of course no one saw anything wrong with Russia "just being nice"
I said - NO respectable US president would fall for that -

I mean what could go wrong?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52649018


just an honest accident/mistake?

[boutons_deux]

EPA Releases List of Disinfectants to Use Against COVID-19

03/05/2020

https://www.epa.gov/newsreleases/epa-releases-list-disinfectants-use-against-covid-19

Trash mentioned household chemicals, promoted it, because it had been social media BULLSHIT for weeks.

Trash CONTRIBUTED to the bullshit

[RandomGuy]

https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/1260600693464932354?s=20

Remember the propaganda pushers and lemmings blamed Trump for the abusive Democrat lady that killed her husband? Remember when they also pushed the story that people consuming disinfectant because of Trump? These people are agenda driven liars.

Remember when Nathan tried to deflect from Trump being so stupid as to think that injecting disinfectant was worth trying?

[boutons_deux]

1259898461136158730

[DarrinS]

1260541136969629699

[Splits]

1260541136969629699


April 23, 2020 (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/23/us/coronavirus-kemp-trump-georgia.html)


ATLANTA — When Gov. Brian Kemp of Georgia announced this week that he would soon allow restaurants, barbershops and other businesses to reopen, the Republican governor’s plan seemed in tune with a president who had openly encouraged protesters (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/17/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-governors.html) of social distancing restrictions.

And the president did seem pleased. On Tuesday night, Vice President Mike Pence and President Trump, in separate phone calls, each expressed his support for the governor’s coronavirus response, said an official familiar with the calls who was unauthorized to speak about the matter.

That is why Mr. Trump’s criticism (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/22/us/trump-georgia-governor-kemp-coronavirus.html) on Wednesday — “I think it’s too soon,” the president said during an afternoon briefing — has baffled Mr. Kemp and Georgia Republicans, whose first-term governor rode to victory on a Trump endorsement.

The president amped up his criticism on Thursday. “I want them to open,” he said of businesses, “and I want them to open as soon as possible and I want the state to open. But I was not happy with Brian Kemp. I will tell you that.”

[spurraider21]

what does trump's comments have to do with that?

[TSA]

Welcome to the coming spike. It is already happening where they are seeing some pretty hefty increases.

Inevitable.

Florida and Georgia were supposed to be “inevitable”, what happened?

[Blake]

Florida and Georgia were supposed to be “inevitable”, what happened?

You think it's over for them?

[boutons_deux]

Fox News urges viewers to 'put freedumb before fear,'

then

extends its own work-from-home order :lol

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/5/12/1944531/-Fox-News-urges-viewers-to-put-freedom-before-fear-then-extends-its-own-work-from-home-order?detail=emaildkre

[Blake]

what does trump's comments have to do with that?

I think it's a reminder that Trump has some blame there even though he tried to distance from it at the last second

[Blake]

"Kemp spoke just after signing a new executive order that allows restaurants to serve 10 diners per 300 square feet instead of the current 500 square feet, and increased the maximum number of people who can be seated together from six to 10. It also allows summer day camps to begin operating this week subject to restrictions, although overnight camps remain banned for now. The governor allowed the number of children and teachers per room at a child care facility to rise to 20 from the current 10..."

https://www.news4jax.com/news/georgia/2020/05/13/32-coronavirus-deaths-reported-in-georgia-in-24-hours/

Guys we're trending down too fast let's start trending back up again

[TSA]

You think it's over for them?

It’s not over for anyone at this point, but Florida and Georgia were mocked relentlessly and both governors were told they’d have blood on their hands for the unnecessary spikes in death for reopening too soon. The “inevitable” never happened.

[Blake]

It’s not over for anyone at this point, but Florida and Georgia were mocked relentlessly and both governors were told they’d have blood on their hands for the unnecessary spikes in death for reopening too soon. The “inevitable” never happened.

Do you really not understand a spike could still come?

[ChumpDumper]

It’s not over for anyone at this point, but Florida and Georgia were mocked relentlessly and both governors were told they’d have blood on their hands for the unnecessary spikes in death for reopening too soon. The “inevitable” never happened.I hope it doesn't, but you've been really stupid with your declarations before. Forgive us if we don't take any stock in them now.

[spurraider21]

I think it's a reminder that Trump has some blame there even though he tried to distance from it at the last second
blame for what? the point was that people said "in 3 weeks georgia will be a bloodbath" and now here we are 3 weeks later.

[Blake]

blame for what? the point was that people said "in 3 weeks georgia will be a bloodbath" and now here we are 3 weeks later.

Then I missed the point

[Blake]

"Other states, such as Georgia, which has one of the most ambitious and earliest reopening plans, have yet to report an uptick in cases. However, epidemiologists warn that the data lags anywhere from days to several weeks because the virus can take that long to develop symptoms in a person. Testing delays in less accessible parts of states could further delay the data, said Dr. Mohammed Ali, associate professor of epidemiology at Emory University in Atlanta...."

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/12/coronavirus-cases-are-on-the-rise-in-texas-and-other-states-that-reopened-early-former-fda-chief-says.html

[TSA]

Do you really not understand a spike could still come?

Of course, and a spike can come in any other state. Los Angeles is now doing worse than expected and they haven’t lifted shelter in place.

[spurraider21]

"Other states, such as Georgia, which has one of the most ambitious and earliest reopening plans, have yet to report an uptick in cases. However, epidemiologists warn that the data lags anywhere from days to several weeks because the virus can take that long to develop symptoms in a person. Testing delays in less accessible parts of states could further delay the data, said Dr. Mohammed Ali, associate professor of epidemiology at Emory University in Atlanta...."

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/12/coronavirus-cases-are-on-the-rise-in-texas-and-other-states-that-reopened-early-former-fda-chief-says.html
yeah, i'm not saying that they're out of the woods. the point of the tweet darrin posted is that people put them on a 3 week clock

[DarrinS]

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/930152?src=soc_tw_share

[ChumpDumper]

There's lag and growth might be exponential. I hope the virus disappears like magic.

[Blake]

yeah, i'm not saying that they're out of the woods. the point of the tweet darrin posted is that people put them on a 3 week clock

Got it. I read past the hard 3 week deadline

[boutons_deux]

Of course, and a spike can come in any other state. Los Angeles is now doing worse than expected and they haven’t lifted shelter in place.

therefore, in TSA Trash-fellatin' logic, lift the ineffective social isolation and everybody back to work, no masks, no tests

[TSA]

therefore, in TSA Trash-fellatin' logic, lift the ineffective social isolation and everybody back to work, no masks, no tests

You’ve got no argument when you resort to making shit up. Find a single post of me advocating for that. Best of luck.

[Splits]

what does trump's comments have to do with that?

that it isn't just "librul media" who thought it was a bad idea

[boutons_deux]

You’ve got no argument when you resort to making shit up. Find a single post of me advocating for that. Best of luck.

think I can't read subtext behind your Trash-fellatin texts?

[TSA]

think I can't read subtext behind your Trash-fellatin texts?

Yes you just proved it.

[boutons_deux]

red/slave states think than can escape?

As some countries ease up, others are reimposing lockdowns amid a resurgence of coronavirus infections

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/as-some-countries-ease-up-others-are-reimposing-lockdowns-amid-a-resurgence-of-coronavirus-infections/2020/05/12/6373cf6a-9455-11ea-87a3-22d324235636_story.html?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1 QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJjb29raWVuYW1lIjoid3BfY3J 0aWQiLCJpc3MiOiJDYXJ0YSIsImNvb2tpZXZhbHVlIjoiNTk3N DBkYjNhZGU0ZTIxYTg0OTNmZGFlIiwidGFnIjoiNWViYzU3MGZ mZTFmZjY1NGMyZGMyNDA5IiwidXJsIjoiaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cud 2FzaGluZ3RvbnBvc3QuY29tL3dvcmxkL2FzLXNvbWUtY291bnR yaWVzLWVhc2UtdXAtb3RoZXJzLWFyZS1yZWltcG9zaW5nLWxvY 2tkb3ducy1hbWlkLWEtcmVzdXJnZW5jZS1vZi1jb3JvbmF2aXJ 1cy1pbmZlY3Rpb25zLzIwMjAvMDUvMTIvNjM3M2NmNmEtOTQ1N S0xMWVhLTg3YTMtMjJkMzI0MjM1NjM2X3N0b3J5Lmh0bWw_dXR tX2NhbXBhaWduPXdwX3RvX3lvdXJfaGVhbHRoJnV0bV9tZWRpd W09ZW1haWwmdXRtX3NvdXJjZT1uZXdzbGV0dGVyJndwaXNyYz1 ubF90eWgmd3Btaz0xIn0.mMqkF5460YqAI7eRQ8WiCTps4vtRu USlmf50PeduyFw&utm_campaign=wp_to_your_health&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_tyh&wpmk=1

[RandomGuy]

Florida and Georgia were supposed to be “inevitable”, what happened?


Leaked data from the White House task force shows virus cases are spiking in clusters across the US, contradicting Trump's claims
It shows the number of new cases increasing between 100% and 1,000% in the space of a week in 10 counties in Tennessee, Iowa, Kentucky, Kansas, Minnesota, Missouri, Wisconsin, Nebraska, and Georgia.


Gov. DeSantis still hiding crucial data on COVID-19 deaths from the public
The state of Florida is hiding information about coronavirus deaths from citizens. Under the direction of Gov. Ron DeSantis and the Florida Department of Health (DOH), the state has consistently refused to inform the public about deaths and infections in Florida nursing homes, prisons and now, coronavirus deaths as documented by public medical examiners.
https://www.palmbeachpost.com/opinion/20200513/coronavirus-florida-editorial-gov-desantis-still-hiding-crucial-data-on-covid-19-deaths-from-public

Looks like many are ignoring the governors calls to go out.

Not too hard.

Or maybe they are injecting disinfectant like Trump said.

[RandomGuy]

You’ve got no argument when you resort to making shit up. Find a single post of me advocating for that. Best of luck.

So Trump is wrong about all that shit, and even your dumb ass knows better.

:lol Dear Leader is an idiot, and you can't bring yourself to admit it.

[tholdren]

One of several highly overestimated neil furguson models from 2005, used similar arguments as current pandemic ....


Last month Neil Ferguson, a professor of mathematical biology at Imperial College London, told Guardian Unlimited that up to 200 million people could be killed.

"Around 40 million people died in 1918 Spanish flu outbreak," said Prof Ferguson. "There are six times more people on the planet now so you could scale it up to around 200 million people probably."

A Department of Health contingency plan states anywhere that there could be between 21,500 and 709,000 deaths in Britain.

A WHO spokeswoman said the "best case scenario" would be 7.4 million deaths globally...

These predictions have been around for years. While a majority are wildly inaccurate, the argument could be made that the world was not prepared to handle, nor were any truly preventative measures (wet market removal) taken to ensure that the world would not have to respond.

Not one person. World problem. Irony is wet markets still allowed. Yet people are told to do their part? Strange logic...

[TSA]

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/opinion/20200513/coronavirus-florida-editorial-gov-desantis-still-hiding-crucial-data-on-covid-19-deaths-from-public

Looks like many are ignoring the governors calls to go out.

Not too hard.

Or maybe they are injecting disinfectant like Trump said.

No shit cases go up when testing goes up. Show me the bloodbath that was predicted in Florida and Georgia.

[ChumpDumper]

One of several highly overestimated neil furguson models from 2005, used similar arguments as current pandemic ....


Last month Neil Ferguson, a professor of mathematical biology at Imperial College London, told Guardian Unlimited that up to 200 million people could be killed.

"Around 40 million people died in 1918 Spanish flu outbreak," said Prof Ferguson. "There are six times more people on the planet now so you could scale it up to around 200 million people probably."

A Department of Health contingency plan states anywhere that there could be between 21,500 and 709,000 deaths in Britain.

A WHO spokeswoman said the "best case scenario" would be 7.4 million deaths globally...

These predictions have been around for years. While a majority are wildly inaccurate, the argument could be made that the world was not prepared to handle, nor were any truly preventative measures (wet market removal) taken to ensure that the world would not have to respond.

Not one person. World problem. Irony is wet markets still allowed. Yet people are told to do their part? Strange logic...How does the virus spread according to you?

[tholdren]

How does the virus spread according to you?
Ironically your continuous deflections and flip-flopping has nothing to do with the above. Very strange

[ChumpDumper]

Ironically your continuous deflections and flip-flopping has nothing to do with the above. Very strangeJust asking since you never answered before and only deflected.

If you actually answer I won't have to ask you anymore.

Please just answer the question and don't defelct.

How does the virus spread according to you?

[ducks]

You people are stupid if you are going to wear a mask wear one that works the best
Those others do not work

[ChumpDumper]

You people are stupid if you are going to wear a mask wear one that works the best
Those others do not workYou've already been told what the masks do.

[tholdren]

You've already been told what the masks do.

And told the exact opposite and then again.... yikes. Lots of gossip

[ChumpDumper]

And told the exact opposite and then again.... yikes. Lots of gossip
How does the virus spread according to you?

[tholdren]

How does the virus spread according to you?

Sounds like you are engaging in trumpspeak. You turned.

[ChumpDumper]

Sounds like you are engaging in trumpspeak. You turned.It's a simple question. Here's a comma to help you out so you won't deflect over grammar.

How does the virus spread, according to you?

[tholdren]

It's a simple question. Here's a comma to help you out so you won't deflect over grammar.

How does the virus spread, according to you?
You understand this is what djt does during press conferences, right? Deflection and trying to question... super odd you say some negative things about the president but jock his style. Odd....

[Nathan89]

You people are stupid if you are going to wear a mask wear one that works the best
Those others do not work

Most people don't have access to n95 masks. Therefore the only option is the masks that protect others and in theory others would have the same which protects you.

[picnroll]

Sounds like you are engaging in trumpspeak. You turned.

holdren reading your posts where you try to discuss science is like listening to a dog try to recite Shakespeare.

[ChumpDumper]

You understand this is what djt does during press conferences, right? Deflection and trying to question... super odd you say some negative things about the president but jock his style. Odd....All you're doing is deflecting.

I am asking you a simple question.

Just answer it. Don't be afraid.

According to you, how does the virus spread?

[tholdren]

All you're doing is deflecting.

I am asking you a simple question.

Just answer it. Don't be afraid.

According to you, how does the virus spread?

I win.

[ChumpDumper]

holdren reading your posts where you try to discuss science is like listening to a dog try to recite Shakespeare.He talks big until he's asked a simple question he has asked other people. Now he's just terrified.

[ChumpDumper]

I win.By deflecting?:lol

According to you, how does the virus spread?

[tholdren]

By deflecting?:lol

According to you, how does the virus spread?
Refuses to answer question.. check
Asks same question... check
Add emoji.... check.

Like reading a trump tweet. Yikes

[DarrinS]

You people are stupid if you are going to wear a mask wear one that works the best
Those others do not work

It's about minimizing airborne droplets. My mask protects YOU. Your mask protects ME.

[ChumpDumper]

Refuses to answer question.. check
Asks same question... check
Add emoji.... check.

Like reading a trump tweet. YikesI win.

According to you, how does the virus spread?

[hater]

You people are stupid if you are going to wear a mask wear one that works the best
Those others do not work

you really think most americans can afford to get N95 masks for their daily lives, idiot?

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao "WARP SPEED"

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[TimDunkem]

Operation Warp Speed aka Operation start pushing whatever drug you can as fast as you can to give the rubes enough false security to go out and work until they're sick.

[picnroll]

OT. What happen to Trash’s nitwit son Don Trash Jr.? Did he get sent to the basement?

[Play Boban]

Operation Warp Speed aka Operation start pushing whatever drug you can as fast as you can to give the rubes enough false security to go out and work until they're sick.
:cry

[boutons_deux]

Operation Warp Speed aka Operation start pushing whatever drug you can as fast as you can to give the rubes enough false security to go out and work until they're sick.

Early Jan was a better Warp Speed operation launch date. 4 months late

Still won't save his re-election.

[DarrinS]

Early Jan was a better Warp Speed operation launch date. 4 months late

Still won't save his re-election.


What was the main focus of our politicians in January? Go look that up.

[picnroll]

What was the main focus of our politicians in January? Go look that up.

For trash watching Fox news? Wasn’t he in charge of the federal health agencies though?

[hater]

What was the main focus of our politicians in January? Go look that up.

laughing at China while planning to steal more tax money

[ChumpDumper]

What was the main focus of our politicians in January? Go look that up.Man, President Pence would've done so much better than Trump's failure.

[boutons_deux]

Republicans are in a battle with each other because federal dollars are being sent to COVID-19 hotspots

Sen. Rick Scott (R-FL) took to the Senate floor Wednesday to rant that he doesn’t want to give any of Florida’s money to New York.

It’s unclear where the senator believes money comes from when Florida is hit by hurricanes. :lol

Fellow conservative Sen. John Kennedy (R-LA) is similarly fighting for funding as his state is overtaken with COVID-19 cases.

President Donald Trump ... reopening will solve all of the problems. :lol

Sen. Chris Murphy (D-CT) said, “I just don’t think when unemployment is getting to depression-era levels, :lol already is! :lol

Gabe Sherman recalled that as a developer getting started in New York City,

Trump was handed tens of millions of dollars in tax breaks.

Now he’s turning his back on New York.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/05/republicans-are-in-a-battle-with-each-other-because-federal-dollars-are-being-sent-to-covid-19-hotspots/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[RandomGuy]

No shit cases go up when testing goes up. Show me the bloodbath that was predicted in Florida and Georgia.

Show me how injecting disinfectants kills viruses.

[DMC]

Show me how injecting disinfectants kills viruses.

This candy ass fall back reveals your true intellect, poser.

[Blake]

:lmao "WARP SPEED"

1260639262304862208

But Cuomo :cry

[Trill Clinton]

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[DarrinS]

Trill. Take vitamin D supplements, bro.

[boutons_deux]

America’s True Covid Toll Already Exceeds 100,000

The reported numbers leave out thousands of deaths clearly resulting from the pandemic.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/13/opinion/coronavirus-us-deaths.html

10 days left in May, 1500/day will give 100K dead by 1 June from the Trash Pandemic of 2019

[ducks]

Most people don't have access to n95 masks. Therefore the only option is the masks that protect others and in theory others would have the same which protects you.

Got one free with gun holster I bought

[ChumpDumper]

Got one free with gun holster I boughtYou gotta have like three or four to rotate or you're just gonna have virus all over the outside of it all the time. Maybe you could steam it every night.

[boutons_deux]

Trump is shortchanging states on COVID-19 guidance so he can blame them for his failures

new claims from the White House that state reopening guidelines are being “edited”

our star players are at the CDC.

Our best epidemiologists,

the people who can offer the clearest and most relevant guidance as to how we reopen our economies,

are in the Centers for Disease Control.

What’s the point of the CDC if it doesn’t offer expertise to states

when they are opening up after the worst pandemic to hit this country in a century?”

“I think this is ultimately about

the president wanting to be able to have clean hands,” said Murphy.

“The president doesn’t want to lead,

so he can armchair quarterback, criticize and critique states and try to pass the buck to somebody else.

And if he actually did offer a detailed set of guidance or rules on how you reopen a daycare center or school or a retail industry,

then he would be up for criticism and accountability,

and the president doesn’t want that.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/05/trump-is-shortchanging-states-on-covid-19-guidance-so-he-can-blame-them-for-his-failures-senator/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/05/trump-is-shortchanging-states-on-covid-19-guidance-so-he-can-blame-them-for-his-failures-senator/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)

[boutons_deux]

Trump says Dr Fauci's warning 'not acceptable'

US President Donald Trump has said a sobering warning by his top infectious diseases expert about lifting pandemic restrictions too soon was unacceptable.

He accused Dr Anthony Fauci of wanting "to play all sides of the equation" in his testimony to lawmakers on Tuesday.
The president said he was especially dissatisfied with Dr Fauci's caution around reopening schools too quickly.

"I was surprised by his answer actually, because, you know, it's just to me - it's not an acceptable answer, especially when it comes to schools," the president told reporters.

He said "the only thing that would be acceptable" is giving older teachers and professors a few more weeks before they return.

"Because this is

a disease that attacks age :lol,

and it attacks health :lol," the president said.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52656959

[DarrinS]

Trill. Take vitamin D supplements, bro.

And C, zinc, and quercetin. Get yourself a pulse oximeter, too. Below 90, go see a doc.

[DarrinS]

No one else here is sharing any useful info, tbh.

[ChumpDumper]

And C, zinc, and quercetin. Get yourself a pulse oximeter, too. Below 90, go see a doc.No hydroxychloroquine?

[DarrinS]

No hydroxychloroquine?

Anything that is anti-inflammatory is good. hydroxychloroquine is one of those.

[DarrinS]

No hydroxychloroquine?


Anything that is anti-inflammatory is good. hydroxychloroquine is one of those.


I didn't pick hydroxychloroquine, because it's not something you can just buy at CVS.

[ChumpDumper]

Anything that is anti-inflammatory is good. hydrochloride is one of those.Is hydroxychloroquine one of those?

[DarrinS]

By the way, never let a a doc put you on a ventilator. Death sentence, tbh.

[ChumpDumper]

I didn't pick hydroxychloroquine, because it's not something you can just buy at CVS.I figured you stocked up anyway.

[DarrinS]

Is hydroxychloroquine one of those?

Yes

[ChumpDumper]

By the way, never let a a doc put you on a ventilator. Death sentence, tbh.Did they even kill the ones who survived?

[DarrinS]

I figured you stocked up anyway.

Uh, no

[DarrinS]

Did they even kill the ones who survived?

Wtf?

[ChumpDumper]

YesSo that could be used for regular sore muscles like ibuprofen?

[ChumpDumper]

Wtf?The ones who lived after being put on a ventilator.

[pgardn]

Anything that is anti-inflammatory is good. hydroxychloroquine is one of those.

This is absolutely wrong.

[DarrinS]

Did they even kill the ones who survived?


The ones who lived after being put on a ventilator.


As far as I know, the low percentage who survived ventilators were not "killed" .

Wtf are you talking about?

[DarrinS]

This is absolutely wrong.

Nope

[pgardn]

Nope

Yep.

[DarrinS]

Yep.

Explain then

[ChumpDumper]

As far as I know, the low percentage who survived ventilators were not "killed" .

Wtf are you talking about?I'm talking about the high percentage of people who survived being put on a ventilator depending on where you choose to look.

[pgardn]

Explain then

Some anti inflammatory drugs include steriods.
You should not take steriods unless your doctor knows you will not react to them.
If you want more I will give them to you. There are all sorts of inflammatory drugs.

Now you explain.

Im still holding back on the rest.

[DarrinS]

I'm talking about the high percentage of people who survived being put on a ventilator depending on where you choose to look.

Link?

[DarrinS]

Some anti inflammatory include steriods.
You should not take steriods unless your doctor knows you will not react to them.
If you want more I will give them to you. There are all sorts of inflammatory drugs.

Now you explain.

Im still holding back on the rest.

Don't hold back

[ChumpDumper]

Link?

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[pgardn]

Don't hold back

I gave you my reason.
Its your turn.
Go.

I will go further and say you are going to have to get a prescription for steriods from a doctor. (why would that be? just get it off the shelf?)
Unless its in some supplement and really does not do much or your body produces it naturally and it is in very low quantities in the supplement.

So go Darrin.
Explain why anti inflammatorys should be used. There are situations which I would use them. But not blanket with Covid like you have stated.

So go Darrin.

[DarrinS]

Go to 9:38 (whole thing is worth watching)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgEUsIIhl0A

[pgardn]

It still amazes me that people just throw shit out there, are proven dead wrong, and come back for more after being punked.
The red team is a resilient group. Trump has taught them being dead wrong does not matter, just throw up more shit

[DarrinS]

I gave you my reason.
Its your turn.
Go.

I will go further and say you are going to have to get a prescription for steriods from a doctor. (why would that be? just get it off the shelf?)
Unless its in some supplement and really does not do much or your body produces it naturally and it is in very low quantities in the supplement.

So go Darrin.
Explain why anti inflammatorys should be used. There are situations which I would use them. But not blanket with Covid like you have stated.

So go Darrin.


I have family and friends who are doctors. I'm trying to post useful information. Take it or leave it.

[Nbadan]

Why administer Hydroxycholriquine when a Remdesivir cocktail works better?

[DarrinS]

You can either educate yourself about why certain people have bad outcomes, or not.

[DarrinS]

Why administer Hydroxycholriquine when a Remdesivir cocktail works better?


I'm on team "whatever works".

[Nbadan]

Remdesivir works so well, in the right combination, that Trump has taken over distribution

[pgardn]

I have family and friends who are doctors. I'm trying to post useful information. Take it or leave it.

You dont want to go with credentials from friends (I have a shit ton of doctor friends) and you definitely dont want to do personal credentials.
Including my wife who works closely with them.

did you listen to the first part of your OWN video? I surprised Rogan actually understands the difference between anti inflammatories.

Tell your doctor friends this is a new virus and we are getting a ton of conflicting reports about who should and should not go on ventilators. People come in to hospitals in different conditions and at different ages. Ventilators have save some peoples lives. FACT.

Back to the anti inflammatory. NO.
Not in all cases. We are still figuring this out. Its NEW and causes differing symptoms in different people.

[ChumpDumper]

You can either educate yourself about why certain people have bad outcomes, or not.

I am. Even this NY study linked above doesn't really conclude mechanical ventilation is a death sentence the further you look into it.


As of April 4, 2020, for patients requiring mechanical ventilation (n = 1151, 20.2%), 38 (3.3%) were discharged alive, 282 (24.5%) died, and 831 (72.2%) remained in hospital.

Inconclusive without following up on the 831 IMO.

[pgardn]

Remdesivir works so well, in the right combination, that Trump has taken over distribution

At a certain progression point in the disease.

[DarrinS]

Remdesivir works so well, in the right combination, that Trump has taken over distribution

Wut?

Are you still 9/11 conspitatard?

[Blake]

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Lol

[ChumpDumper]

1260738681234534400:lol I made a much less elegant comment about it yesterday.

[DarrinS]

You dont want to go with credentials from friends (I have a shit ton of doctor friends) and you definitely dont want to do personal credentials.
Including my wife who works closely with them.

did you listen to the first part of your OWN video? I surprised Rogan actually understands the difference between anti inflammatories.

Tell your doctor friends this is a new virus and we are getting a ton of conflicting reports about who should and should not go on ventilators. People come in to hospitals in different conditions and at different ages. Ventilators have save some peoples lives. FACT.

Back to the anti inflammatory. NO.
Not in all cases. We are still figuring this out. Its NEW and causes differing symptoms in different people.


I wonder how many thousands of Americans were killed on ventilators?

[pgardn]

I'm on team "whatever works".

Look Darrin.
Team whatever works may have ate cat shit and claimed it worked because they recovered.
Are you going with that?
George Washington survived pneumonia after being bled out. It most likely caused him to almost die but he recovered. So bleeding out is good?
This is why we have SCIENCE that takes time.

Will you guys just wake the fck up please and let the science guys work this out instead of pretending you are Trump?

[Blake]

I have family and friends who are doctors. I'm trying to post useful information. Take it or leave it.

They all say a ventilator is a death sentence?

I don't buy it

[ChumpDumper]

I wonder how many thousands of Americans were killed on ventilators?As shown, probably nowhere near as meany as you thought were "killed."

[pgardn]

I wonder how many thousands of Americans were killed on ventilators?

I dont know and it is sad but these poor doctors did not know any better because this is NEW and very difficult.
They were not trying to kill people, they were working with the best ideas available, unless they were not trying to keep up.
I could give you a shit ton of articles that are trying to parse this out.

You just cannot make blanket statements with this thing.

[DarrinS]

Look Darrin.
Team whatever works may have ate cat shit and claimed it worked because they recovered.
Are you going with that?
George Washington survived pneumonia after being bled out. It most likely caused him to almost die but he recovered. So bleeding out is good?
This is why we have SCIENCE that takes time.

Will you guys just wake the fck up please and let the science guys work this out instead of pretending you are Trump?



You can stay in the fetal position as long as you like. Life is more than not dying.

[DMC]

Look Darrin.
Team whatever works may have ate cat shit and claimed it worked because they recovered.
Are you going with that?
George Washington survived pneumonia after being bled out. It most likely caused him to almost die but he recovered. So bleeding out is good?
This is why we have SCIENCE that takes time.

Will you guys just wake the fck up please and let the science guys work this out instead of pretending you are Trump?

But Trump was supposed to have it fixed by February 1st.

[DMC]

I dont know and it is sad but these poor doctors did not know any better because this is NEW and very difficult.
They were not trying to kill people, they were working with the best ideas available, unless they were not trying to keep up.
I could give you a shit ton of articles that are trying to parse this out.

You just cannot make blanket statements with this thing.
Bullshit. Trump killed 85K people. 60K bottom offer.

[Blake]

But Trump was supposed to have it fixed by February 1st.

Shields up

[ChumpDumper]

They all say a ventilator is a death sentence?

I don't buy itI don't see it after looking at all three papers. Even the "bad" one.

[DarrinS]

Do not let yourself get on on a ventilator.

And, if you don't want any more information that could keep you out of hospital, ER, ICU...


Fine

[pgardn]

But Trump was supposed to have it fixed by February 1st.


Bullshit. Trump killed 85K people. 60K bottom offer.

Sure

Take other people's quotes an attribute it to me old man. Show me 1 post when I claimed Trump had killed people, just one.

You cant stand it when someone knows more than you.
Yes, Im that guy, in Science.

So quit pretending you are some sort of head hunter for Science types.
And put me on ignore. I mean you are swooping in just replying with quote, which you deemed very bad etiquette.
Follow your own old man rules.

[ChumpDumper]

Do not let yourself get on on a ventilator.Upon what are you basing this?

And, if you don't want any more information that could keep you out of hospital, ER, ICU...


FineI appreciate the effort. Your medical advice should stand up to scrutiny.

[pgardn]

You can stay in the fetal position as long as you like. Life is more than not dying.

Im running, doing work, and biking everyday.
Im doing fine bud.
When they open the pool I will be there.

I am one of the least affected people by this thing and feel blessed to be in that position.
Where you got I am all balled up is beyond me. I will not visit grandparents however except at distance and with a mask.
Im not going to be responsible for infecting anyone. That, I cannot abide.

[DarrinS]

And get treatment early. I already pointed out getting a pulse oximeter. Am I being partisan here?

[DarrinS]

Upon what are you basing this?
I appreciate the effort. Your medical advice should stand up to scrutiny.

Friends in NYC

[ChumpDumper]

Im running, doing work, and biking everyday.
Im doing fine bud.
When they open the pool I will be there.

I am one of the least affected people by this thing and feel blessed to be in that position.
Where you got I am all balled up is beyond me. I will not visit grandparents however except at distance and with a mask.
Im not going to be responsible for infecting anyone. That, I cannot abide.x2

It looks like I lucked out being a type-O nonsmoker, but I know/am around way too many people who will likely not be as well off.

[pgardn]

And get treatment early. I already pointed out getting a pulse oximeter. Am I being partisan here?

Not from what I read.
And that is a key point.
Some of these people are breathing just fine but their 02 levels are very low.
So from what I read that is a very good idea

This is quite perplexing. They are having a very difficult time figuring out O2 - CO2 exchange at the lungs, breathing rate, heart rate, and now we even have blood clotting problems. I wont even go into the syndromes that are affecting a small % of kids (hope it stays this way, the %)

[ChumpDumper]

Friends in NYCI cited the NYC study. The outcome for over 2/3 of the ventilator patients was undetermined. I'd love a follow-up

[pgardn]

x2

It looks like I lucked out being a type-O nonsmoker, but I know/am around way too many people who will likely not be as well off.

Actually I am the same blood type and of course a nonsmoker.
Thank god I did not start that because that was incredibly addicting for my mother.

[DarrinS]

x2

It looks like I lucked out being a type-O nonsmoker, but I know/am around way too many people who will likely not be as well off.

Lol, your blood type is not the issue

[hater]

damn :wow

shithole country

https://twitter.com/mcauleyholmes/status/1259846402240323589?s=21

[DarrinS]

damn :wow

shithole country

https://twitter.com/mcauleyholmes/status/1259846402240323589?s=21

No panic porn today?

[ChumpDumper]

Lol, your blood type is not the issueCould be.

https://www.livescience.com/why-covid-19-coronavirus-deadly-for-some-people.html

Like I said, I appreciate your effort but you can't act like you're an expert or even particularly knowledgeable. None of us are.

[DarrinS]

Not from what I read.
And that is a key point.
Some of these people are breathing just fine but their 02 levels are very low.
So from what I read that is a very good idea

This is quite perplexing. They are having a very difficult time figuring out O2 - CO2 exchange at the lungs, breathing rate, heart rate, and now we even have blood clotting problems. I wont even go into the syndromes that are affecting a small % of kids (hope it stays this way, the %)


Hence, the pulse oximeyer. Honestly, I think I already had it, but it's a good tool to have around.

[pgardn]

Lol, your blood type is not the issue

they have some statistics pointing out that it MAY be.
but its only stats at this point, that and some proposed mechanisms that are probably wrong.

[DarrinS]

Could be.

https://www.livescience.com/why-covid-19-coronavirus-deadly-for-some-people.html

Like I said, I appreciate your effort but you can't act like you're an expert or even particularly knowledgeable. None of us are.

Be safe at Wendy's drive thru, bro.

[ChumpDumper]

they have some statistics pointing out that it MAY be.
but its only stats at this point, that and some proposed mechanisms that are probably wrong.Ultimately a bunch of unpublished stuff, but Darrin did the same with hydroxychloroquine and I'm not prescribing anything.

[ChumpDumper]

Be safe at Wendy's drive thru, bro.I wear a mask when I'm out in public. You do too.

You're not an expert. Neither am I.

Don't get pissy about that.

[pgardn]

Hence, the pulse oximeyer. Honestly, I think I already had it, but it's a good tool to have around.

Totally agree from what I read.
Its invaluable as you can go symptom less and have extraordinarily low oxygen levels.
Doctors have commented that this is the only way they can tell some patients are in trouble because they are answering questions just fine, breathing just fine, some are experiencing racing hearts but then it calms down... I would definitely go with this device at this time in our knowledge.

Aside: I bet if the doctors asked them to get up and jog a bit they would go down in a heap because some of these folks have astoundingly low O2 levels but you would not know it by most cursory exams.

[pgardn]

For gosh sakes I just dont want people to get sick and die.
Not trying to bash you Darrin, but we cant just go Trump on this thing.
People have done work ALL THEIR LIVES in these areas, we have to stick with them and let them hash it out. And they will agree and disagree just like we will, but that is exactly what we want. That is the strength of this country in science. And rushing things can be very dangerous, science types dont like this thus the disagreement about opening up and staying put. I get it, they both have huge upsides and downsides. Its horribly difficult.

[DarrinS]

For gosh sakes I just dont want people to get sick and die.
Not trying to bash you Darrin, but we cant just go Trump on this thing.
People have done work ALL THEIR LIVES in these areas, we have to stick with them and let them hash it out. And they will agree and disagree just like we will, but that is exactly what we want. That is the strength of this country in science. And rushing things can be very dangerous, science types dont like this thus the disagreement about opening up and staying put. I get it, they both have huge upsides and downsides. Its horribly difficult.


Well, there are some pretty basic things people can do to decrease their odds of a bad outcome.

I'm trying to offer information about that.

[DarrinS]

Whatever chump posts, please do not allow yourself to be put on a ventilator.

[ChumpDumper]

Whatever chump posts, please do not allow yourself to be put on a ventilator.Just lying there and dying is always an option if you don't even want to try. Sure, doctor.

[clambake]

So I guess a ventilator is the new gas chamber

[Thread]

Whatever chump posts, please do not allow yourself to be put on a ventilator.

Yep. And wait till the dust clears and the wrongful death suits start pilling up.

[DarrinS]

So I guess a ventilator is the new gas chamber

It's a hail Mary

[ChumpDumper]

So I guess a ventilator is the new gas chamberI mean, would what I found look better to Darrin if a doctor posted the same thing?

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[Blake]

Whatever chump posts, please do not allow yourself to be put on a ventilator.

I don't buy your ventilator fears

[DarrinS]

Yep. And wait till the dust clears and the wrongful death suits start pilling up.

I'm guessing 1000s killed unnecessarily in NYC.

[clambake]

I mean, would what I found look better to Darrin if a doctor posted the same thing?

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How does any of this help his 401k?

[Blake]

Yep. And wait till the dust clears and the wrongful death suits start pilling up.

Doubtful

[DarrinS]

I don't buy your ventilator fears

Ok. Get on one. Enjoy your journey.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm guessingYou sure as hell are.

[Blake]

Ok. Get on one. Enjoy your journey.

I don't need one. Enjoy your Marlboros.

[clambake]

Ok. Get on one. Enjoy your journey.

Why don’t you help?

You could be the cure.

[DarrinS]

I don't need one. Enjoy your Marlboros.

:lol

I am.

[Thread]

I'm guessing 1000s killed unnecessarily in NYC.

Yep.

[clambake]

Yep.

You need to take your yep to your corona thread, dale

Numbers ain’t your game

[Reck]

Whatever chump posts, please do not allow yourself to be put on a ventilator.

So just let you die if you collapse and stop breathing? No chess compression on your way to the hospital? Just let your brain go veggie because fuck ventilators?

[DarrinS]

So just let you die if you collapse and stop breathing? No chess compression on your way to the hospital? Just let your brain go veggie because fuck ventilators?

No vent for me. No thanks

[Reck]

No vent for me. No thanks

What about the people who need to be put in a medically induced coma otherwise they’d die of septic shock? Fuck them too, just die?

Your ventilator fears are highly irrational. Never bring that up outside of ST. You’ll be laughed out of the room.

[clambake]

No vent for me. No thanks

I say thank you

We want your type to take it on the chin and die at home. Save a nurse.


But you already had the 2 day corona virus lol

[Blake]

No vent for me. No thanks

This dude figured out how you can smoke and get your ventilator too

https://1heurf2kk91pad4b23w0jddl-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/IMG_1061.jpg

"CHARLOTTE, NC – Bronco Products, Inc. is pleased to announce its revolutionary new ventilation product. PapPal is an amazingly simple device that allows those on mechanical ventilation, CPAP, BiPAP, or any oxygen delivery device to simultaneously and safely enjoy the delights and satisfactions of cigarette smoking...."

https://gomerblog.com/2014/12/ventilators/?amp

[Reck]

This dude figured out how you can smoke and get your ventilator too

https://1heurf2kk91pad4b23w0jddl-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/IMG_1061.jpg

"CHARLOTTE, NC – Bronco Products, Inc. is pleased to announce its revolutionary new ventilation product. PapPal is an amazingly simple device that allows those on mechanical ventilation, CPAP, BiPAP, or any oxygen delivery device to simultaneously and safely enjoy the delights and satisfactions of cigarette smoking...."

https://gomerblog.com/2014/12/ventilators/?amp


:lmao

[Blake]

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^ this is in Missouri but I'm guessing it'll spread like covid

[ChumpDumper]

What about the people who need to be put in a medically induced coma otherwise they’d die of septic shock? Fuck them too, just die?

Your ventilator fears are highly irrational. Never bring that up outside of ST. You’ll be laughed out of the room.The three reports I've seen max out ventilator mortality at ~30%. I'll certainly allow for primitive application of protocols early and even say the NYC figure is above the 25% actually reported. Still seems like a better bet than thoughts and prayers therapy if one's situation gets that bad.

[Trill Clinton]

Trill. Take vitamin D supplements, bro.


And C, zinc, and quercetin. Get yourself a pulse oximeter, too. Below 90, go see a doc.


Thanks for the health advice but I'm 100% positive I'm healthier and in much better shape than you.

[TimDunkem]

1259896872895987712

^ this is in Missouri but I'm guessing it'll spread like covid
Honestly, it makes sense considering these places can barely pay their rent. Perhaps it's just better practice to not eat out?

[RandomGuy]

[personal attack]

[boredom]

[boutons_deux]

The three reports I've seen max out ventilator mortality at ~30%. I'll certainly allow for primitive application of protocols early and even say the NYC figure is above the 25% actually reported. Still seems like a better bet than thoughts and prayers therapy if one's situation gets that bad.

New Study Shows Nearly 9 in 10 Covid-19 Patients on Ventilators Don’t Make It

April 22, 2020

outcomes for more than 2,600 patients found

an extraordinarily high 88% death rate among Covid-19 patients in the New York City

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-22/almost-9-in-10-covid-19-patients-on-ventilators-died-in-study (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-22/almost-9-in-10-covid-19-patients-on-ventilators-died-in-study)

remdesivir helps survivors exit hospital earlier, but has no effect on mortality

[RandomGuy]

Yeah, Dems love racial division. They also like gender division and that's why they push fake pay gap nonsense for decades. And it's why Biden doesn't care about the presumption of innocence. They do the same shit with race. And they'll continue to do that going forward. Studies show conservatives whites have a lower in-group bias than the average black or Hispanic. Racism isn't a major threat from conservatives. Going forward it should be even less but that could change as a result of the left preaching white hatred.

Conservative ideology is almost entirely based on racism. Always has been.

You think some people are better than others. There is an obvious hierarchy, with white males at the top of that pyramid. You think this in your head right now, but won't admit it.

All conservative propaganda and talking points feed into this.

"welfare queens" "lazy" "dirty"

"poor people are poor because they make bad decisions" this is a hierarchical statement that puts people without money beneath you, for some perceived moral failing.

The evidence we have about poverty says that bad decisions are caused by poverty, not the other way around. It is therefore a self-feeding cycle.

When inequality is pointed out to you, there is always an excuse. Just like when Christians have the inconsistencies and provably false things from the bible pointed out to them.

[ChumpDumper]

New Study Shows Nearly 9 in 10 Covid-19 Patients on Ventilators Don’t Make It

April 22, 2020

outcomes for more than 2,600 patients found

an extraordinarily high 88% death rate among Covid-19 patients in the New York City

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-22/almost-9-in-10-covid-19-patients-on-ventilators-died-in-study (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-22/almost-9-in-10-covid-19-patients-on-ventilators-died-in-study)

remdesivir helps survivors exit hospital earlier, but has no effect on mortality



Yeah, that's the study that is actually 25%.

[pgardn]

It's a hail Mary

It might be, but there are people in hail Mary situations.

[pgardn]

New Study Shows Nearly 9 in 10 Covid-19 Patients on Ventilators Don’t Make It

April 22, 2020

outcomes for more than 2,600 patients found

an extraordinarily high 88% death rate among Covid-19 patients in the New York City

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-22/almost-9-in-10-covid-19-patients-on-ventilators-died-in-study (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-22/almost-9-in-10-covid-19-patients-on-ventilators-died-in-study)

remdesivir helps survivors exit hospital earlier, but has no effect on mortality




With what we know now, people put on ventilators are already close to dying.
People have been saved by them. In the early stages when we really did not understand what was going in, they were probably not helpful.
And this could all change with a month more of data. Science is ongoing. And this is so NEW and perplexing. Because of this people are turning into witch doctors, it even happened to our president.

[pgardn]

For gosh sakes I just dont want people to get sick and die.
Not trying to bash you Darrin, but we cant just go Trump on this thing.
People have done work ALL THEIR LIVES in these areas, we have to stick with them and let them hash it out. And they will agree and disagree just like we will, but that is exactly what we want. That is the strength of this country in science. And rushing things can be very dangerous, science types dont like this thus the disagreement about opening up and staying put. I get it, they both have huge upsides and downsides. Its horribly difficult.

[hater]

attention Darrin :lol

https://twitter.com/rowan4bernie/status/1260962367061590018?s=21

[hater]

:lmao

https://twitter.com/robbyvikaro/status/1260963946489675784?s=21

[Blake]

It might be, but there are people in hail Mary situations.

MIGHT AS WELL TAKE CHLOROQUINE BECAUSE A COUPLE OF DOCTORS SOMEWHERE SAID IT WORKED IF YOU'RE IN HAIL MARY MODE

[Spurtacular]

MIGHT AS WELL TAKE CHLOROQUINE BECAUSE A COUPLE OF DOCTORS SOMEWHERE SAID IT WORKED IF YOU'RE IN HAIL MARY MODE

Triggered Cuck

[tholdren]

attention Darrin :lol

https://twitter.com/rowan4bernie/status/1260962367061590018?s=21

What are you implying, that healthy people between 20 and 40 will be the the majority of deaths like the Spanish flu?

[tholdren]

With what we know now, people put on ventilators are already close to dying.
People have been saved by them. In the early stages when we really did not understand what was going in, they were probably not helpful.
And this could all change with a month more of data. Science is ongoing. And this is so NEW and perplexing. Because of this people are turning into witch doctors, it even happened to our president.
Its what we have always known. Per 1993 study on patients on ventilator survival rate.
Conclusion: We conclude that age, cause of acute respiratory failure, and duration of mechanical ventilation have specific influences on the generally poor outcome of mechanical ventilation for acute respiratory failure.

[boutons_deux]

Trump Wishes He Could Replace Fauci with the Doctor Who Saved Him from Vietnam

https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5ebd54dce1c76e3f6a417a9c/master/w_2560%2Cc_limit/Borowitz-PodiatristandFauci.jpg

WASHINGTON —Donald Trump wishes he could replace Anthony Fauci with the podiatrist who helped him avoid serving in the Vietnam War, Trump said on Thursday.

Speaking to reporters,

Trump disparaged Fauci by arguing that

he is not “half the doctor” that his former podiatrist was.

“You tell Tony to do something,

and he says he has to look at a bunch of numbers and charts first,

and even then he maybe doesn’t do what you told him to,” Trump complained.

“You asked my foot doctor in Queens to say I had bone spurs and,

boom, ten minutes later you got the note.”

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-wishes-he-could-replace-fauci-with-the-doctor-who-saved-him-from-vietnam (https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-wishes-he-could-replace-fauci-with-the-doctor-who-saved-him-from-vietnam)

[Trill Clinton]

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[DarrinS]

Sweet dreams



https://www.youtube.com/watchv=8_ake07j7te

[ChumpDumper]

Sweet dreams



https://www.youtube.com/watchv=8_ake07j7te[video not found]

[DMC]

Sweet dreams



https://www.youtube.com/watchv=8_ake07j7te

Nothing there

[DarrinS]

Sweet dreams



https://www.youtube.com/watchv=8_ake07j7te



Try again


https://youtu.be/8_AKe07J7tE

[picnroll]

MIGHT AS WELL TAKE CHLOROQUINE BECAUSE A COUPLE OF DOCTORS SOMEWHERE SAID IT WORKED IF YOU'RE IN HAIL MARY MODE

Actualy at one presser Trashcan Man said it might even be a good idea to take Chloroquine prophylacticly. That was before he moved on to swallowing Lysol and shoving a UV light up your ass.

[DarrinS]

Actualy at one presser Trashcan Man said it might even be a good idea to take Chloroquine prophylacticly. That was before he moved on to swallowing Lysol and shoving a UV light up your ass.

Just FYI, Chloroquine and Hydroxychloroquine aren't the same thing

[picnroll]

Just FYI, Chloroquine and Hydroxychloroquine aren't the same thing

You’re right, my sincerest apologies. It was Hydroxychloroquine that Trashcan Man recommended taking prophylatically.