Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

[DarrinS]

Thats why you stick with larger studies by scientists.
The early studies were not there yet so why not use logical prevention measures using the way most transmissible viruses work. It’s not like masks were some bizarre idea, spacing, and washing/ disinfecting.

His protocol is literally called I-MASK+ protocol.

[DarrinS]

There's not even guidance on something as basic as taking vitamin D. Even though Fauci revealed he was taking 6000 IU/day. Sad

[pgardn]

There's not even guidance on something as basic as taking vitamin D. Even though Fauci revealed he was taking 6000 IU/day. Sad

Everyone will perform their own little witchcraft dance early on when all we knew was it was viral. And that’s cool. Just don’t kill others by touting a cure that can be harmful. OD on vitamins and herbals is always a go to it seems. Better than disinfectant inhalation or injection.

[DarrinS]

Everyone will perform their own little witchcraft dance early on when all we knew was it was viral. And that’s cool. Just don’t kill others by touting a cure that can be harmful. OD on vitamins and herbals is always a go to it seems. Better than disinfectant inhalation or injection.

Who said anything about a cure?

[SnakeBoy]

Snake went nicotine

Nicotine (copenhagen longcut) + vitamins

Also had chloroquine phosphate by prescription in the medicine cabinet. Never took it mainly because I wasn't sure if I had covid. There was no testing available and the cdc was still claiming the risk to the public is low :lol

In retrospect I should have gotten a script for HCQ instead but the in vitro study for HCQ hadn't even been done at that time.

[pgardn]

His protocol is literally called I-MASK+ protocol.

Ah the old + leading to Zinc or some other item off the shelf.
Its great for the vitamin nuts. People with normal metabolic functions do just fine with a varied American diet. This megadosing vitamins does make some people rich though. It’s helpful that it usually just runs through you without hurting too much. (Kidneys maybe a problem long term for some of the water solubles.)

Do what you must, Fauci did. I try to stay very hydrated with the common cold, might do some good.

[SnakeBoy]

Better than disinfectant inhalation

Winehole is touting snorting iodine

[pgardn]

Who said anything about a cure?

Sorry prevention.
Yeah, our president and his aquarium chemicals.
This is not the same as snake or I coming with the chewing tobacco and the hydration (respectively)

[pgardn]

Winehole is touting snorting iodine

Add Winehole to the list of pgardn, Darrin, snake. I have read zero about it but I would be careful with iodine in general.

But the thing is, we can make fun of each other; the president... well, some people actually believe the guy.

[DarrinS]

Ah the old + leading to Zinc or some other item off the shelf.
Its great for the vitamin nuts. People with normal metabolic functions do just fine with a varied American diet. This megadosing vitamins does make some people rich though. It’s helpful that it usually just runs through you without hurting too much. (Kidneys maybe a problem long term for some of the water solubles.)

Do what you must, Fauci did. I try to stay very hydrated with the common cold, might do some good.


Fuck. BIG Vitamin. I knew it was too good to be true.

[DarrinS]

Current recommendation:

Go home and isolate
Go to the hospital when you can't breathe

[Winehole23]

...

[Winehole23]

Winehole is touting snorting iodinenot true

[SnakeBoy]

His protocol is literally called I-MASK+ protocol.

I know many physicians are basically following the protocol for outpatient treatment, outside of their recent recommendation on ivermectin. It's all perfectly safe and reasonable stuff that may lower risk of serious illness. That's where pgardn and others get it wrong when they start using the word cure. In medicine "cure" doesn't really exist for viral illnesses. Most other illness either.


There's not even guidance on something as basic as taking vitamin D. Even though Fauci revealed he was taking 6000 IU/day. Sad

Fauci is a big pharma whore

[SnakeBoy]

not true

:lol

You mentioned it therefore you touted it. ST rules.

[DarrinS]

I know many physicians are basically following the protocol for outpatient treatment, outside of their recent recommendation on ivermectin. It's all perfectly safe and reasonable stuff that may lower risk of serious illness. That's where pgardn and others get it wrong when they start using the word cure. In medicine "cure" doesn't really exist for viral illnesses. Most other illness either.



Fauci is a big pharma whore



It will be sad if we eventually learn that Ivermectin could've prevented needless hospitalizations and deaths. I think there are even studies showing it helps the "long haulers".

[hater]

https://twitter.com/h24news_uk/status/1340078958742802432?s=19


Time to watch 28 days later

[hater]

Porton Johnson is one of the weakest leaders in recent history. He is making a defeated Trump look like Spartacus

[Winehole23]

1340345606980599809

[Winehole23]

It will be sad if we eventually learn that Ivermectin could've prevented needless hospitalizations and deaths. I think there are even studies showing it helps the "long haulers".It would also be sad, and maybe a little dangerous, to offer false security to people based on hunches about OTC meds and anecdotes about off-label experimentation with prescription drugs.

[Winehole23]

this would be akin to cancelling Black Friday in the US

1340353984792567810

[Winehole23]

What did the researchers do and find?



Using recently released national data on COVID-19 deaths by racial/ethnic group and age, along with US Census population data, we explored variation in mortality risk by calculating age-specific mortality measures in the above groups as well as in the non-Hispanic Asian or Pacific Islander population, the 5 census-defined groups for which data are available.




We found that for all groups, as compared to the non-Hispanic White population, there were excess COVID-19 deaths across all ages. Although for all racial/ethnic groups, most deaths occurred at older ages, there was also striking loss of life at younger ages, before age 65, among people of color.




More years of life were lost before 65 years among the non-Hispanic Black and Hispanic populations, despite the smaller size of these groups, than among the non-Hispanic White population. Scrutinizing age-specific mortality rates, we found that for young adults into midlife, comparatively, the non-Hispanic Black, Hispanic, and non-Hispanic American Indian or Alaska Native populations had a much higher risk of death from COVID-19 than the non-Hispanic White population.


What do these findings mean?



These data support the conclusion that US populations of color die of COVID-19 at younger ages as well as at higher rates than the non-Hispanic White population.
Enhancing protection from infection, including assurance of workplace protections, may be relevant to prevention of COVID-19 in working-age adults.


https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1003402

[boutons_deux]

"sad if we eventually learn that Ivermectin ..."

the most sad, the "sadist"?, is that 74M of you rightwingnutjob assholes refused to wear masks, to social distance, and were gulled by lying Trash, his corrupt mafiya, and dickless Repugs

into worsening, causing a national health and economic disaster that has and will sicken and kill many 100Ks of Americans,

damages that will last for years.

but you fucking "owned the libs, owned the science"

[DarrinS]

"sad if we eventually learn that Ivermectin ..."

the most sad, the "sadist"?, is that 74M of you rightwingnutjob assholes refused to wear masks, to social distance, and were gulled by lying Trash, his corrupt mafiya, and dickless Repugs

into worsening, causing a national health and economic disaster that has and will sicken and kill many 100Ks of Americans,

damages that will last for years.

but you fucking "owned the libs, owned the science"







Current epicenter is California, dude

[boutons_deux]

Current epicenter is California, dude

dude, SoCal (south of LA) and interior Cal are rightwing areas.

Also 40% Hispanic/Latino, poor people in crowded quarters that couldn't afford not to work, dude

[tholdren]

Sorry prevention.
Yeah, our president and his aquarium chemicals.
This is not the same as snake or I coming with the chewing tobacco and the hydration (respectively)

Wahahahahhahahahahahahahah


Ifr

[ElNono]

^ Wrong

[pgardn]

I know many physicians are basically following the protocol for outpatient treatment, outside of their recent recommendation on ivermectin. It's all perfectly safe and reasonable stuff that may lower risk of serious illness. That's where pgardn and others get it wrong when they start using the word cure. In medicine "cure" doesn't really exist for viral illnesses. Most other illness either.



Fauci is a big pharma whore

Oh good lord... lets again split the atoms on the thinnest hair.
word games...

And for Darrin. Lots of doctors are going with the Vit D thing for possible prevention or for mitigating symptoms. The thing is most people have no idea what their Vit D levels are naturally. Megadosing may barely move the needle. Its certainly not going to kill you in the amounts recommended. And there are people with low Vit D levels. I feel its something like me trying to stay overly hydrated and measure myself by how often I urinate when I do get the rare cold. When it could be that I just need to make sure I am not dehydrated as I do exercise quite a bit.

Doctors can be as weird with their little pet vitamins as anyone else. They start seeing trends in their patients, want to believe it, and then read that into their patients own little stories. Its like baby aspirin was a big thing as a blood thinner and then GB does a massive study that says it also increases your chances for strokes. Some docs still go with it for older men like my father. Some say not everyday but take a full aspirin when the big one hits. Multivitamins also took a hit in some big studies. Doctors are swayed just like other folks who dont have time to wait for bigger studies, I get that. And even then, some drugs do work on some patients and have radically different results for others. This is just not easy stuff. I think its very easy to get carried away with a bunch of different TREATMENTS (not cures, for the sake of the venomous creature).

I just want the vaccine asap. I seem to have hardly any side effects with the flu vaccine (or any others I can remember) so Im willing to give it a go. Immediately.

[pgardn]

Wahahahahhahahahahahahahah


Ifr

^ Owns ICU hotels

[Winehole23]

^ Owns ICU hotels

https://smoothingit.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/img_6844.jpg

[pgardn]

https://smoothingit.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/img_6844.jpg

Damn.

Those are the updated models.

[hater]

Damn this covid is making that great movie Contagion look like a shit movie

https://twitter.com/Independent/status/1340458136080011265?s=19

[TimDunkem]

Damn this covid is making that great movie Contagion look like a shit movie

https://twitter.com/Independent/status/1340458136080011265?s=19
It's okay. The hope doctors on CNN said that the vaccine will still kick this new strain's ass, and that immunity from the new vaccines will last years! The pandemic will be over by March!

[hater]

It's okay. The hope Dr.s on CNN said that the vaccine will still kick this new strain's ass, and that immunity from the new vaccines will last years! The pandemic will be over by March!

Cool I hope so

[tholdren]

Wahahahahhahahahahahahahah


Ifr

No hospitals ever over capacity.

Or show the list. With the data

[tholdren]

It's okay. The hope doctors on CNN said that the vaccine will still kick this new strain's ass, and that immunity from the new vaccines will last years! The pandemic will be over by March!

Beahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahah

TimDunkem needs a vax. He's a hero

[hater]

:lmao of course

https://twitter.com/jennife37809443/status/1340509803890630656?s=19

What do u think happens if you warn ppl ahead of time that you are shutting the city down :lmao

Idiots shoulda closed it down a la china.. now they infected the rest of the country :lmao

Idiots

[tholdren]

:lmao of course

https://twitter.com/jennife37809443/status/1340509803890630656?s=19

What do u think happens if you warn ppl ahead of time that you are shutting the city down :lmao

Idiots shoulda closed it down a la china.. now they infected the rest of the country :lmao

Idiots

Lovkdowns don't stop a virus.

[TimDunkem]

bwahaha didn't read

[hater]

https://twitter.com/tier10000/status/1340345746340646913?s=19

[hater]

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1340509798773772289?s=19

[hater]

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1340523787788447744?s=19

[hater]

Got damn

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1340517608643317761?s=19

[hater]

https://twitter.com/business/status/1340665219354398721?s=19

[hater]

https://twitter.com/paullferrer/status/1340436050049703938?s=19

[TimDunkem]

Uh oh

[hater]

Damn according to Netherlands this strain is harder to detect

Also Ireland has closed its flights from UK

[hater]

Play stupid games....

https://twitter.com/bopinion/status/1340667208041689088?s=19

[TimDunkem]

Sweden and folden lost bigly.

[hater]

https://twitter.com/tbnnewschannel/status/1340779373243346947?s=19

[tholdren]

https://twitter.com/tbnnewschannel/status/1340779373243346947?s=19

Omg no data

[TimDunkem]

^omg wrong

[tholdren]

^omg wrong

Then show the data

[Ef-man]

Sweden and folden lost bigly.

[Winehole23]

bloated administrative salaries and the profit motive underdeveloped our health care system


“Lean industry practices slashed preparedness. They treat safe staffing and needed supplies as a drag on budget goals and profit margins, rather than the prerequisite for a humane, fully prepared patient-oriented health care system.”https://theintercept.com/2020/12/20/covid-hospital-ceos-nurses/

[boutons_deux]

https://www.toocool2betrue.com/content/109227/98f539535f78e8f184580539ab08e26a.jpg

[boutons_deux]

bloated administrative salaries and the profit motive underdeveloped our health care system

https://theintercept.com/2020/12/20/covid-hospital-ceos-nurses/

There is still not enough PPE.

Did I miss Trash's DPA for PPE, to go along with his DPA for keeping his BigFood donors' meatpackers on the job?

[boutons_deux]

for the survivors





1. Hormonal Hardships

A number of long haulers are experiencing sexual health symptoms such as testicular pain, urinary problems and menstrual changes, lending credence to the theory that low hormone levels are contributing to the virus’ staying power — and that high estrogen may play a protective role (http://lnk.ozy.com/click/gb00-2c83w7-vb79oj-e6zybkt0/), which could explain why men are three times more likely to die (http://lnk.ozy.com/click/gb00-2c83w7-vb79ok-e6zybkt1/) from COVID-19 than women.







2. Pulmonary Problems

The virus directly inflames lung tissues, making air sacs less elastic and more difficult to expand, which makes breathing a challenge. Lung scarring has been seen in past coronavirus pandemics, particularly in patients infected with SARS, and some research suggests that as many as half (http://lnk.ozy.com/click/gb00-2c83w7-vb79ol-e6zybkt2/) of asymptomatic COVID-19 patients could sustain lung damage.







3. Coronary Catastrophes

Even without evidence of respiratory distress, heart inflammation can occur — with a recent study showing that a third (http://lnk.ozy.com/click/gb00-2c83w7-vb79om-e6zybkt3/) of college athletes with mild COVID-19 cases exhibited pericarditis, or swelling of the tissue surrounding the heart, and many long haulers see their heart rates spike even with simple movements like standing up or doing household chores.







4. Breaking the Brain Barrier

A layer of specialized cells protects the brain from blood, a barrier that also serves to keep out dangerous blood-borne infections. But COVID-19 appears able to cut past those defenses to directly damage brain cells, leading to a host of neurological issues — from headaches to anxiety, fatigue and “brain fog” — that may be difficult for doctors to diagnose for decades to come.







5. Children Too

Despite the fact that they suffer less intense symptoms and lower death rates, kids can and do transmit the virus. And although experts must weigh the steep costs of keeping them out of school, it’s important to note that children are at risk and do experience symptoms, from the more mild, like nosebleeds, to those seen in the adult population. The lack of public response or consideration of children has led frustrated parents to form online support groups, including this one (http://lnk.ozy.com/click/gb00-2c83w7-vb79on-e6zybkt4/).

-- OZY email

[DarrinS]

https://twitter.com/tier10000/status/1340345746340646913?s=19

Muh new "strains"

Scary stuff




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC8ObD2W4Rk

[Winehole23]

Muh new "strains"

Scary stuff




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC8ObD2W4Rk"muh OTC COVID cures" has nary room to ridicule others for credulity

[ChumpDumper]

"muh OTC COVID cures" has nary room to ridicule others for credulityout of muh fuel

[DarrinS]

"muh OTC COVID cures" has nary room to ridicule others for credulity

Hide under bed and wait for your vax x2.

[ChumpDumper]

Salty wrong-ass Karrin pitching the straw.:lol

[Winehole23]

Hide under bed and wait for your vax x2.Not an option for me. I'm out there workin M-F.

[DarrinS]

Not an option for me. I'm out there workin M-F.

Sure have tons of time to post here. :lol

You and chump

[tholdren]

Hide under bed and wait for your vax x2.

These guys are the types that will wear masks the rest of their lives and post pictures of them getting a vax on social media


Still they fail.to.admit that covid isn't as much of the spanish flu as they once claimed.

[pgardn]

These guys are the types that will wear masks the rest of their lives and post pictures of them getting a vax on social media


Still they fail.to.admit that covid isn't as much of the sniffles as they once claimed.

deadly wrong

[tholdren]

deadly wrong

No you do.
Show me that list of all the over capacity hospitals.....

[pgardn]

No you do.
Show me that list of all the over capacity hospitals.....

None.

They are in your ICU portable potties in Cali.
No problem, you will make a shitload, yeah?

[tholdren]

None.

They are in your ICU portable potties in Cali.
No problem, you will make a shitload, yeah?

Very good. None is the correct answer.

[pgardn]

Very good. None is the correct answer.

Correct as you count ICUs in closets and bathrooms.
They have closets and bathrooms in hospitals.
They also have proper ICUs that are overwhelmed.

[tholdren]

Correct as you count ICUs in closets and bathrooms.
They have closets and bathrooms in hospitals.
They also have proper ICUs that are overwhelmed.

All good bro. You answered correctly. None.

Thanks

[pgardn]

All good bro. You answered correctly. None.

Thanks

Used your method.
Found it very easy.

I especially find the everyone will die part of your theories especially helpful.
Foldren, breaking new ground in a cemetery near you.

[tholdren]

All good bro. You answered correctly. None.

Thanks

How many over capacity? None..

The end

[pgardn]

How many over capacity? Someone always dies and that leaves a bed open.

The end
Plus the bathrooms are wide open.

Ahh.
Good point.

[tholdren]

How many over capacity? None..

The end

Pgardn doing the lying again.

If you have the data show it. You keep saying they are over capacity. Show the data. Or its gossip and you fold.

The end

[ChumpDumper]

Sure have tons of time to post here. :lol

You and chump:lol salty wrong Karrin

[ChumpDumper]

Pgardn doing the lying again.

If you have the data show it. You keep saying they are over capacity. Show the data. Or its gossip and you fold.

The endYou never showed proof of anything.

You just folded.

[pgardn]

Pgardn doing the lying again.

I have the data show bathrooms and closets are open as are parking lots. You keep saying they are over capacity. Show the data. Or its gossip and you fold.

The end

You see I guess we have a disagreement about what an intensive care unit entails.

[tholdren]

You see I guess we have a disagreement about what an intensive care unit entails.

You didn't show any data. Just more gossip.

Sad life dude.

[ChumpDumper]

You didn't show any data.You never do.

[SnakeBoy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC8ObD2W4Rk

[ChumpDumper]

Meh, it's already here. We're just too backwards and primitive a nation to be able to tell.

[Winehole23]

oh sure, but blame the CDC


US President Donald Trump’s political appointees tried to block or change more than a dozen government reports that detailed scientific findings about the spread of the coronavirus, a House panel investigating the alleged interference said on Monday.


Representative James Clyburn, a Democrat from the US state of South Carolina, said his coronavirus committee investigators have found evidence of a “political pressure campaign” to “bully” professionals at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in what may have been an attempt to “cripple the nation’s coronavirus response in a misguided effort to achieve herd immunity”.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/12/21/us-house-panel-says-trump-officials-attacked-cdc-covid-reports?taid=5fe195f2047c5c0001cbe463

[boutons_deux]

oh sure, but blame the CDC

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/12/21/us-house-panel-says-trump-officials-attacked-cdc-covid-reports?taid=5fe195f2047c5c0001cbe463

Trash's mafiya bullying CDC to lie by omission, into silence is criminal negligent manslaughter, criminal reckless endangerment by the entire fucking mafiya

I predict Pelosi: "OMG, that's terrible. Now, we must move on"

[pgardn]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19-deaths-to-reverse-u-s-life-expectancy-gains-11608613261

please add to the

foldren folding fund

[pgardn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC8ObD2W4Rk

Opinions all over the place on this right now.
The lesson is WE are not keeping up with sequencing like other countries are to follow the spread of variants which should naturally be expected.
Expect new admin to fix this

[tholdren]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19-deaths-to-reverse-u-s-life-expectancy-gains-11608613261

please add to the

foldren folding fund

Lolooooloolookkoolkooolooolpoolkool


Oh my god

[SnakeBoy]

1341322201849425921

[Winehole23]

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/apartment.jpg

The study

We investigated the epidemiological relationship among infected cases on a recent cluster infection of COVID-19 in an apartment building in Seoul, South Korea.

All infected cases were found along two vertical lines of the building, and each line was connected through a single air duct in the bathroom for natural ventilation. Our investigation found no other possible contact between the cases than the airborne infection through a single air duct in the bathroom. The virus from the first infected case can be spread to upstairs and downstairs through the air duct by the (reverse) stack effect, explaining the air movement in a vertical shaft.

Conclusions

This study suggests aerosol transmission, especially indoors with insufficient ventilation, which is underappreciated.
https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(20)32558-3/fulltext

[pgardn]

Lolooooloolookkoolkooolooolpoolkool


Oh my god

I don't understand this.

[boutons_deux]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19-deaths-to-reverse-u-s-life-expectancy-gains-11608613261

please add to the

foldren folding fund

states that did not expand Medicaid under ACA had lower longevity than states that did expand.

Estimate was that states not expanding caused 15K deaths 2009 - 2019, with of course many 10Ks of diseased people suffering but not dying (yet)

Capitalist whores Repugs are the party death and destruction of people and the environment.

Wealth and power before humanity and nature, it's NOW The American Way.

[DMC]

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/apartment.jpg
https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(20)32558-3/fulltext

What's really underappreciated here is that no one infected in that building ever used anyone else's bathroom in the building unless they were directly above or below them.

Also, they are smelling each other's shit.

[tholdren]

Lolooooloolookkoolkooolooolpoolkool


Oh my god

He didn't even give those hospital stats. Lololkolokkkkkllkkl


Wow lolooooook

[ChumpDumper]

He didn't even give those hospital stats. Lololkolokkkkkllkkl


Wow lolooooookYou've never posted one linked stat in your life, vaxboi.

[Winehole23]

CCP-like, tbh.

Trump didn't want the public to know how bad it was.


Trump administration political appointees tried to block or change more than a dozen government reports that detailed scientific findings about the spread of the coronavirus, a House panel investigating the alleged interference said Monday.https://apnews.com/article/public-health-james-clyburn-alex-azar-coronavirus-pandemic-f1551a9f40e95c44e944ed93a1cac517

[SnakeBoy]

CCP-like, tbh.

Trump didn't want the public to know how bad it was.

https://apnews.com/article/public-health-james-clyburn-alex-azar-coronavirus-pandemic-f1551a9f40e95c44e944ed93a1cac517

opposite of CCP-like coronavirus response tbh

[koriwhat]

CCP-like, tbh.

Trump didn't want the public to know how bad it was.

https://apnews.com/article/public-health-james-clyburn-alex-azar-coronavirus-pandemic-f1551a9f40e95c44e944ed93a1cac517

Chicken Little over here... Lmao

[Winehole23]

opposite of CCP-like coronavirus response tbhTrump's authoritarian disposition queered the message and misled the public. Not much different in intent and effect.

If only he had taken public health measures half as seriously as the CCP, we'd be better off and he'd be the president elect.

[koriwhat]

Trump's authoritarian disposition queered the message and misled the public. Not much different in intent and effect.

If only he had taken public health measures half as seriously as the CCP, we'd be better off and he'd be the president elect.

You call Trump an authoritarian while advocating for authoritarian measures taken by the CCP? Lmao

[Winehole23]

Joey doesn't read very good.

[Winehole23]

possible disease vector?

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/370/6523/1408

[SnakeBoy]

Nice podcast from EM Rap with lots of info

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncdZQRFXXiw

tldw- Cali bout to get ass raped in January

They have this nice animation


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83iXvddr3Rs

[boutons_deux]

Merry Christmas, suckers

U.S. loses one life every 33 seconds to COVID-19 in deadliest week so far


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-trends-graphic-idUSKBN28W01Q

[koriwhat]

Joey doesn't read very good.

I think the wording you were looking for is "well"... You're a faux intellectual just like the rest of the losers club here on ST.

[TeyshaBlue]

CCP-like, tbh.

Trump didn't want the public to know how bad it was.

Very Chernobylish.

[baseline bum]

opposite of CCP-like coronavirus response tbh

True, more Iran-like coronavirus response

[Winehole23]

mink related: one mutation away from being suitable for vaccination?

1343624092314906624

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/134081638_1128439724252287_4306381412792279863_n.j pg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=F1MMrA8Rb50AX-gRho1&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=fb3bb4bc16b566c1d978bac6becbc823&oe=60106F56

[ChumpDumper]

About a third of the way through this excellent article from Lawrence Wright. Audio link works on phones if you want to make a podcast out of it.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/01/04/the-plague-year

[RandomGuy]

opposite of CCP-like coronavirus response tbh
https://comicallyincorrect.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/bagdad-bob-1.jpg

--The virus will be gone by April,

---If the economic shutdown continues, deaths by suicide “definitely would be in far greater numbers than the numbers that we’re talking about” for COVID-19 deaths.

“Coronavirus numbers are looking MUCH better, going down almost everywhere,” and cases are “coming way down.”

“We now have the lowest Fatality (Mortality) Rate in the World.”


You fucking rubes eat it up.

[RandomGuy]

About a third of the way through this excellent article from Lawrence Wright. Audio link works on phones if you want to make a podcast out of it.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/01/04/the-plague-year

damn. That is a long read.

[ChumpDumper]

damn. That is a long read.Yep. I think it takes up 40 pages in the magazine. It's divided into digestible sections.

[RandomGuy]

Very Chernobylish.

‘Like a Hand Grasping’: Trump Appointees Describe the Crushing of the C.D.C.
Kyle McGowan, a former chief of staff at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and his deputy, Amanda Campbell, go public on the Trump administration’s manipulation of the agency.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/16/us/politics/cdc-trump.html

[Winehole23]

About a third of the way through this excellent article from Lawrence Wright. Audio link works on phones if you want to make a podcast out of it.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/01/04/the-plague-yearGreat article, thanks for posting.

[pgardn]

About a third of the way through this excellent article from Lawrence Wright. Audio link works on phones if you want to make a podcast out of it.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/01/04/the-plague-year

This is, so far, incredibly good. Graham(first part of the article), a protein expert and vaccine genius, should have been given the capability of working with so many others that could have helped him and guys like him. Our government could have organized these scientists so much earlier and put them into proper working groups. Trump completely failed on the Science end of this, his administration had no clue how to deal with a REAL problem involving science. Im only partially through the first part and its already terribly obvious.

Jared fkn Kushner and Mike Pence had no clue who to get involved, NONE. They had no ability to organize a community ready to work together. This is not in the article but its incredibly obvious from the statements from various scientists. All of these scientists could have use experts they did not even know of just by organizing properly.

Anyways, incredibly good find. They also explain the absolute importance of the 3-D shape of proteins and the different techniques to tease this out in an understandable manner. Also, give Snake some credit for getting a number of good articles together early on that were on target. The first part of this article basically reiterates some of what he had put up.

Great find so far... thanks. Im only about a fourth or fifth of the way in.

[boutons_deux]

the Section 230 Wet Dreams of the Trash/Repug/oligarchy fascism as implemented by the Chinese

Fascist Repugs LOVE "Chinese Take Out" of dissidents.

The Wuhan doctor who first called attention was harassed by cops for rumors, etc. He's covid-dead

and now

Chinese Government Sentences Journalist To Four Years In Jail For Reporting On The Spread Of The Coronavirus

China went back to doing what it does best: locking up its own citizens.

This was done with more enthusiasm than usual (https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20200411/13550244283/brave-whistleblowers-are-being-punished-saving-lives-during-pandemic.shtml),

since the state media's attempt to control the coronavirus narrative failed spectacularly (https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/china-trolling-world-and-avoiding-blame/608332/),

contradicted by local reports that managed to escape the Chinese government's blockade.

The government is still rounding up journalists and locking them up for reporting on the local spread of the virus.

Zhang Zhan, former lawyer and current journalist, has been incarcerated since May of this year.

She's accused of "picking quarrels and stirring up trouble."

The schoolground wording belies the severity of these charges, which are a convenient catch-all for journalists, dissidents, and critics of the state.

Little had been heard about Zhang's arrest (and the others that accompanied) since earlier this year.

The government finally released information on the charges in mid-November (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/16/citizen-journalist-facing-jail-in-china-for-wuhan-covid-reporting-zhang-zhan).

Zhang's charges -- which include accusations of spreading "false information" via the internet -- come with a recommended sentence of 4-6 years.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20201229/09193845964/chinese-government-sentences-journalist-to-four-years-jail-reporting-spread-coronavirus.shtml

[boutons_deux]

Tyson, like 1000s of other companies, run by sadistic, inhumane shitbags, with the top echelons claiming plausible deniability, ignorance.


Tyson Manager Who Bet on Which Workers Would Get COVID Says

It Was Just 'Something Fun'

More than 1,000 of an Iowa plant’s 2,800 workers contracted the virus. Six of them died.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/xgz4q7/tyson-manager-who-bet-on-which-workers-would-get-covid-says-it-was-just-something-fun (https://www.vice.com/en/article/xgz4q7/tyson-manager-who-bet-on-which-workers-would-get-covid-says-it-was-just-something-fun?utm_source=email&utm_medium=editorial&utm_content=daily&utm_campaign=201229)

[boutons_deux]

‘Like a Hand Grasping’: Trump Appointees Describe the Crushing of the C.D.C.
Kyle McGowan, a former chief of staff at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and his deputy, Amanda Campbell, go public on the Trump administration’s manipulation of the agency.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/16/us/politics/cdc-trump.html

“It is not the C.D.C.’s role to determine the economic viability of a guidance document,”

... In America, money prioritized over human lives. Greed, It's The American Way.

[Winehole23]

retrospective: we got hazed

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[pgardn]

retrospective: we got hazed

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As we go forward and more officials come out from under the orange foot, this is going to show the world we elected a disaster.
The worst possible man possibly ever.

[Winehole23]

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[DarrinS]

CNN with the outliers

Millions of us didn't have strokes

[DarrinS]

Its like WH seeks out panic porn

Fap fap fap

[pgardn]

CNN with the outliers

Millions of us didn't have strokes

The coagulation of blood in the lungs was/is very common.
When the blood coagulates and breaks off it can lead to strokes, which is unusual for young people.
these things fit a general pattern.

[Winehole23]

it's not panic to point this out.

because the US has such a large caseload, we're going to see a lot more outlier results.

this was largely avoidable, our government could have done a lot more to prevent morbidity.

[Ef-man]

Tell that to Luke Letlow (41 years old).


Congressman-elect Luke Letlow dies after battling Covid-19

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/29/politics/luke-letlow-died-covid/index.html

[DarrinS]

The coagulation of blood in the lungs was very common.
When the blood coagulates and breaks off it can lead to strokes, which is unusual for young people.
these things fit a general pattern.

Take some low dose aspirin. Been on it for a few years.

[Winehole23]

damn, Dr. Darrin has the answer for everything

[DarrinS]

Tell that to Luke Letlow (41 years old).


Congressman-elect Luke Letlow dies after battling Covid-19

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/29/politics/luke-letlow-died-covid/index.html

Fat

[DarrinS]

damn, Dr. Darrin has the answer for everything

Posting here 24/7 burns zero calories

[Winehole23]

Posting here 24/7 burns zero caloriesI ride my bike 5-10 miles a day, not that it's any of your business.

[ChumpDumper]

Fat

https://townsquare.media/site/36/files/2020/12/Luke-Letlow-Youtube-via-AN17.jpg

Darrin's wrong again.

[DarrinS]

I ride my bike 5-10 miles a day, not that it's any of your business.

Sure you do. :lmao

[Winehole23]

Sure you do. :lmaoIt's really odd how people on an anonymous board pretend to know so much about other posters.

[Ef-man]

Fat
More like being republican congressman.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=656CHphWc68

[pgardn]

Take some low dose aspirin. Been on it for a few years.

You have increased your risk of intestinal bleeding and produced some beneficial effects.
You might want to stop.

https://bpspubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/bcp.14310

Big, big studies done in Britain say it can help or hurt.

[DarrinS]

You have increased your risk of intestinal bleeding and produced some beneficial effects.
You might want to stop.

https://bpspubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/bcp.14310

Big, big studies done in Britain say it can help or hurt.

I wasn't on it for covid.

[pgardn]

It's really odd how people on an anonymous board pretend to know so much about other posters.

And give medical advice for others without getting the low down.
Btw I bike and love the Greenway in San Antonio.
Really is helping my knees stay good while running.
Cant wait till I can swim again.

And I still reserve the right to call upon you for wine suggestions if thats ok.
My wife got this thing that pumps the oxygen out of the bottle so it might keep longer.
It does indeed pump the air out but Im not sure how well it actually works or for how long it works.

[pgardn]

I wasn't on it for covid.

Neither were the people in the Britain study, it was for blood thinning.
They did a really big study and a bunch of doctors in the US reversed their thoughts on it.
helps prevent heart attacks (probably yes) causes bleeding in other areas that might be worse (possibly)

50/50 thing... might be.
Thatll be 50 bucks. Thanks.

[Winehole23]

And give medical advice for others without getting the low down.
Btw I bike and love the Greenway in San Antonio.
Really is helping my knees stay good while running.
Cant wait till I can swim again.

And I still reserve the right to call upon you for wine suggestions if thats ok.
My wife got this thing that pumps the oxygen out of the bottle so it might keep longer.
It does indeed pump the air out but Im not sure how well it actually works or for how long it works.Vacuum pumps work ok for a day or two. A wine blanket -- heavier than air medical-grade inert gas -- works much better/longer, but it's important to keep the bottle upright in the fridge, even if it's red wine. Heat is a killer.

Coravins work best of all, but they are expensive. They are also not risk-free, because you're injecting gas into a sealed bottle. If you get a Coravin you should use the included neoprene sleeve for the bottle.

I'd be happy to recommend wine anytime, but my general advice is simple. Wherever you like to shop for wine, consult the wine nerds. Tell them what you like and how much you're comfortable spending. They'll usually do you right. Do take advantage of in-store tastings -- it's a good way to get variety and find out what you like.

If there's no wine nerd there, don't fret too much over your choice, with modern oenology, sanitation and production controls, most commercially produced wine is pretty good. Wine drinkers have never had it so good as the 21st century in terms of the general soundness/consistency of the product.

Another thing: it's always a good idea to take at least two bottles of wine home with you from the wine shop. If the first one disappoints, put the cork back in and open the next bottle. By the time you polish it off, you'll probably be ready for the first one. :eyebrows

[boutons_deux]

alcohol is a brain cell killer and carcinogenic. didn't you read the warning label?

[boutons_deux]

'Toxic Individualism':

Pandemic Politics Driving Health Care Workers From Small Towns

The virus infecting thousands of Americans a day is also attacking the country's social fabric.

The coronavirus has exposed a weakness in many rural communities,

where divisive pandemic politics are alienating some of their most critical residents — health care workers.

A wave of departing medical professionals would leave gaping holes

in the rural health care system, and small-town economies,

triggering a death spiral in some of these areas that may be hard to stop.

More than a quarter of all the public health administrators in Kansas quit, retired or got fired this year

"It's been a terrible, an absolute terrible, no good year for rural health,"

Rural hospitals were in deep trouble before the pandemic.

Morgan says 132 of them have closed since 2010. COVID-19 made matters worse.

The surge of desperately sick and highly contagious patients stopped hospitals from doing the lucrative elective outpatient procedures that keep them in business.

Their small staffs have been run ragged.

And the pandemic has filled the air with vitriol against medical expertise.

https://www.npr.org/2020/12/28/950861977/toxic-individualism-pandemic-politics-driving-health-care-workers-from-small-tow

Fuck the toxic, mortal inhumanity of Capitalism

The Repugs, the right wing hate media multi-millionaires who LIED to, are still LYING, about the pandemic, masks, etc to their rural, suckered, gullible rubes have local, available, gold-plated health care.

[Winehole23]

alcohol is a brain cell killer and carcinogenic. didn't you read the warning label?no, rly?

[hater]

RIP Los Angeles ma nigs

It had a nice run

[CosmicCowboy]

It's really odd how people on an anonymous board pretend to know so much about other posters.

Pot calling kettle black

[Winehole23]

Pot calling kettle blackIt's not possible for Darrin to know anything about my level of physical activity, but people volunteer information about their own thoughts and attitudes with every post.

[ElNono]

RIP Los Angeles ma nigs

It had a nice run

Good timing to go on vacay, tbh

[tholdren]

alcohol is a brain cell killer and carcinogenic. didn't you read the warning label?

And 1 billion times more dangerous than covid.

[TeyshaBlue]

Take some low dose aspirin. Been on it for a few years.

Yeah, I took it for 3 years before my first stroke. It aint the panacea its made out to be.

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eql68GuXEAIt_jt?format=jpg&name=mediumhttps://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/31/us/politics/trump-coronavirus.html

[Winehole23]

undertesting, from the beginning, was and is de facto US policy for COVID-19

[Winehole23]

As the U.S. confronted a new wave of infection and death through the summer and fall, the president’s approach to the pandemic came down to a single question: What would it mean for him?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Yeah, I took it for 3 years before my first stroke. It aint the panacea its made out to be.

Aspirin as great as a preventative as long as you take it. If you stop even for a day though your chances of having an attack go up like eight times or something like that.

[boutons_deux]

Latest recommendations I've seen is no aspirin for anybody who has not had a CVD event.

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eql6_k2XIAAvEV3?format=jpg&name=medium

[tholdren]

And 1 billion times more dangerous than covid.
Ifr


2 more weeks

[TimDunkem]

^Fold

[tholdren]

^Fold

So covid is more dangerous than flu for all or just some.

Will wait

[TimDunkem]

^The first thing you did with your day was to rush here and reply to me. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

^The first thing you did with your day was to rush here and reply to me. :lol
:lmao fuzzy says he's mentally ill.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:lmao fuzzy says he's mentally ill.

No I say you're showing signs of mental illness because you'll do that literally for 3 months straight 12 hours a day with two liners of smileys and LOLs and claims of victory and response to the same troll.

And you've been doing it for years. There is a little difference. I can do a direct compare and contrast if you'd like.

[Winehole23]

"But Taiwan and New Zealand are islands"

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[ElNono]

Georgia turning their convention center into a field hospital...

News keep on shitting on foldren and the hoaxbros non stop

[Winehole23]

here's another thread about doing one dose vaccination instead of the recommended two, this one from a Yale immunologist

tl;dr the 55% more contagious B.1.1.7 variant *might* make it advisable to get as many people vaccinated right now, and administer second doses whenever they become available.

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[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

given the stage in the pandemic we are at, a more transmissible variant is in some ways much more dangerous than a more severe variant. That’s because higher transmissibility subjects us to a more contagious virus spreading with exponential growth, whereas the risk from increased severity would have increased in a linear manner, affecting only those infected.https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2020/12/virus-mutation-catastrophe/617531/

[Winehole23]

To understand the difference between exponential and linear risks, consider an example (https://twitter.com/AdamJKucharski/status/1343567425107881986) put forth by Adam Kucharski, a professor at the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine who focuses on mathematical analyses of infectious-disease outbreaks. Kucharski compares a 50 percent increase in virus lethality to a 50 percent increase in virus transmissibility. Take a virus reproduction rate of about 1.1 and an infection fatality risk of 0.8 percent and imagine 10,000 active infections—a plausible scenario for many European cities, as Kucharski notes. As things stand, with those numbers, we’d expect 129 deaths in a month. If the fatality rate increased by 50 percent, that would lead to 193 deaths. In contrast, a 50 percent increase in transmissibility would lead to a whopping 978 deaths in just one month—assuming, in both scenarios, a six-day infection-generation time.

[Winehole23]

So how much more transmissible? We aren’t completely sure yet, but the initial estimates from the data suggest that this variant could be about 50 to 70 percent (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/23/health/coronavirus-uk-variant.html) more transmissible than regular COVID-19.

[Winehole23]

Sidebar: in line with the Washington U/St. Louis study posted upstream, China probably lowballed initial cases by a factor of 10.

Supposing the PRC has misstated its overall COVID cases by a factor of 100, that would still be about 100 times fewer cases per capita than the USA.

https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/longevity/532125-study-from-chinas-cdc-suggests-wuhan-may-have-had-10


(Not suggesting anyone should move to China, just pointing out how far from adequate the US response to COVID has been and how far we have to go to match the competence of other developed countries.)

[hater]

https://twitter.com/SaskiaPopescu/status/1344865249569083392?s=19

[hater]

https://twitter.com/tiskwell/status/1345385695578357760?s=19

[Winehole23]

https://twitter.com/tiskwell/status/1345385695578357760?s=19A little late, don't you think?

Peru is one of the (4) countries in the world with more than 20 million people that is doing worse than the USA.

Maybe the USA will be willing to try stronger medicine when daily deaths reach 5,000-10,000.

[hater]

A little late, don't you think?

Peru is one of the (4) countries in the world with more than 20 million people that is doing worse than the USA.

Maybe the USA will be willing to try stronger medicine when daily deaths reach 5,000-10,000.

Strange thing is peru had strict lockdown early in February

It just didnt do well

Not sure why, genetics, food, etc who knows

[Reck]

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Yikes. Possibly our first 2021 victim.

[SnakeBoy]

A little late, don't you think?

Peru is one of the (4) countries in the world with more than 20 million people that is doing worse than the USA.

Maybe the USA will be willing to try stronger medicine when daily deaths reach 5,000-10,000.

What stronger medicine would you prescribe for the USA?

[DarrinS]

What stronger medicine would you prescribe for the USA?

Weight loss

[Winehole23]

we're about to go to a very dark place

would you wager your child's life and your own for $450?

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[Reck]

we're about to go to a very dark place

would you wager your child's life and your own for $450?

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Newson went from hero to zero in a hurry.

Much like Cuomo, people worshipped the ground he walked on because of how early he decided to handle the virus. Now he's going to parties and playing russian roulette with people's kid's. :lol

[DarrinS]

^drama queens

[RandomGuy]

Weight loss

UNiversal healthcare.

[DarrinS]

UNiversal healthcare.

Does that lower BMI?

[boutons_deux]

UK Study Shows New COVID-19
Variant Spreads Faster,
Affects Younger People

The new research however does not contradict previous studies (https://interestingengineering.com/new-more-contagious-coronavirus-variant-found-not-to-cause-more-severe-illness) that found that

the new strain (https://interestingengineering.com/second-more-transmissible-covid-19-variant-detected-in-uk) did not have a more elevated death rate and that

the current vaccines will be effective (https://interestingengineering.com/astrazeneca-says-its-vaccine-likely-works-against-new-variant) against it.

https://interestingengineering.com/uk-study-shows-new-covid-19-variant-spreads-faster-affects-younger-people

[hater]

Great

2021 shaping up to make 2020 mother teresa

https://twitter.com/BravinYuri/status/1345413379297579015?s=19

[DarrinS]

Great

2021 shaping up to make 2020 mother teresa

https://twitter.com/BravinYuri/status/1345413379297579015?s=19

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disease_X

[ElNono]

Great

2021 shaping up to make 2020 mother teresa

https://twitter.com/BravinYuri/status/1345413379297579015?s=19

Nice. Old Joe gets his shot at fumbling the response and conservatards get to whine about it!

[Reck]

Great

2021 shaping up to make 2020 mother teresa

https://twitter.com/BravinYuri/status/1345413379297579015?s=19

After treating COVID like it was nothing we deserve to get wiped out, so good.

But even then Karrin will still say this is just like getting over one of his hangovers.

[TimDunkem]

After treating COVID like it was nothing we deserve to get wiped out, so good.

But even then Karrin will still say this is just like getting over one of his hangovers.
As he posts from the safety of his pool in his gated community.

[RandomGuy]

Does that lower BMI?

Yes.

Moron.

In the past I would bother trying to tell you how/why, but.. meh. Trying to explain anything to your dumb ass is as pointless as Trump election lawsuits.

[boutons_deux]

UK conservative government announces a new lockdown

[tholdren]

Yes.

Moron.

In the past I would bother trying to tell you how/why, but.. meh. Trying to explain anything to your dumb ass is as pointless as Trump election lawsuits.

BwahahahhhhahahHhHHahahHhHHHahahHhahahHahhaha


No it doesn't.

Loloolookkooolkookklkkkk


Universal Healthcare

BwahahahzhshahahahahHha

[Winehole23]

What stronger medicine would you prescribe for the USA?If I was in charge there would be mandatory paid sick leave, period.

There would be more money and infrastructure for vaccination, quarantine, rapid testing and contact tracing.

The Defense Production Act would be used as appropriate to hasten the arrival of PPE and vaccines.

That's off the top of my head, what you you do, Snake Boy?

Spain nationalized their health care system last Spring. Perhaps that sort of conversation will become germane about nine months from now when half the USA, facing its second COVID/FLU season, realizes it still doesn't have a vaccine and has no idea when it will.

[tholdren]

If I was in charge there would be mandatory paid sick leave, period.

There would be more money and infrastructure for vaccination, quarantine, rapid testing and contact tracing.

The Defense Production Act would be used as appropriate to hasten the arrival of PPE and vaccines.

That's off the top of my head, what you you do, Snake Boy?

Spain nationalized their health care system last Spring. Perhaps that sort of conversation will become germane about nine months from now when half the USA, facing its second COVID/FLU season, realizes it still doesn't have a vaccine and has no idea when it will.

You dont need testing or vaccination. Why are you not smart?

[hater]

Damns

https://twitter.com/MoralScold/status/1346129101703229440?s=19

[tholdren]

Damns

https://twitter.com/MoralScold/status/1346129101703229440?s=19


Should have used math

[SnakeBoy]

If I was in charge there would be mandatory paid sick leave, period.

There would be more money and infrastructure for vaccination, quarantine, rapid testing and contact tracing.

The Defense Production Act would be used as appropriate to hasten the arrival of PPE and vaccines.

That's off the top of my head, what you you do, Snake Boy?

Spain nationalized their health care system last Spring. Perhaps that sort of conversation will become germane about nine months from now when half the USA, facing its second COVID/FLU season, realizes it still doesn't have a vaccine and has no idea when it will.

Seems to me your prescription would do little to slow the spread and is geared more towards using covid to implement policies you wanted before covid.

I would recommend that President Trump immediately declare a complete national shutdown. All non essential workers would be ordered to stay at home, allowing for one person per household to venture outside once per day for food or medicine. To enforce such measures President Trump should immediately activate all national guardsmen and federalize all law enforcement. Use of any force necessary to ensure compliance should be authorized. All travel to the USA would be banned however those wishing to leave should be allowed to leave.

[Winehole23]

I would recommend that President Trump immediately declare a complete national shutdown. All non essential workers would be ordered to stay at home, allowing for one person per household to venture outside once per day for food or medicine. To enforce such measures President Trump should immediately activate all national guardsmen and federalize all law enforcement. Use of any force necessary to ensure compliance should be authorized. All travel to the USA would be banned however those wishing to leave should be allowed to leave.how radical, man.

[SnakeBoy]

how radical, man.

It's a proven approach

[Winehole23]

It's a proven approachmaybe there's a wise man close to Trump you can relate that to, good luck!

[SnakeBoy]

maybe there's a wise man close to Trump you can relate that to, good luck!

Maybe Boris will convince him

[hater]

https://twitter.com/andykatz19/status/1346256997289660417?s=19

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/andykatz19/status/1346256997289660417?s=19
did she die with the vaccine, or of the vaccine?

[hater]

did she die with the vaccine, or of the vaccine?

She died 2 days after the jab

U make the call nigrito

[hater]

:lmao where Nancy DMC that said it was easy to deliver the vaccines and US would have no problem :lmao

If the pace of COVID-19 vaccine delivery into people's arms stays the way it has been for the past few weeks, it could take years rather than months to vaccinate Americans, and the outbreak will continue to dominate lives.

:lmao nancy wrong again as usual

[hater]

CVS resorting to giving free Moderna vaccines to random pedestrians :lol

:lol nobody wants that shit moderna vaccine :lmao

[boutons_deux]

One in four doctors attacked, harassed on social media

Amid COVID-19, it is vital doctors feel safe advocating for masks, vaccine adherence

many physicians also report being sexually harassed and personally attacked on these platforms

on the basis of their religion, race or medical recommendations.

the findings highlight the intensity of online harassment before the pandemic, which has only intensified since the spring,

likely an underestimate of the true extent of attacks and harassment post-pandemic

since so many doctors started to advocate for public health measures during the pandemic and

have been met with an increasingly polarized populace emboldened by leadership that devalues science and fact,

Women were disproportionately affected by personal attacks and sexual harassment

https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2021-01/nu-oif010421.php (https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2021-01/nu-oif010421.php)

you Macho Men fakers are deplorable assholes, safely hiding in anonymity.

[hater]

https://twitter.com/terry31604949/status/1346560164351127554?s=19

[boutons_deux]

FDA warns COVID-19 test used by Congress is ‘particularly’ prone to false negative results

a COVID-19 diagnostic test made by Curative poses a "risk of false results, particularly false negative results,"

https://theweek.com/speedreads/958800/los-angeles-paramedics-told-conserve-oxygen-1-5-people-test-positive-coronavirus

[hater]

Imagine going from leader of a white supremacist movement to being a black penis cumdumpster in jail :lmao

[SnakeBoy]

https://twitter.com/terry31604949/status/1346560164351127554?s=19

"Around 400 people die every week in Norwegian nursing homes."

[spurraider21]

they probably got the vaccine and died in a car accident now its being called a vaccine death

[hater]

"Around 400 people die every week in Norwegian nursing homes."

Good hopefully they did not get the death jab

[hater]

Called it

https://twitter.com/lamuta27881931/status/1345638277521547266?s=19

[hater]

Hater called it.

Hater said do not rush science. You cannot take shortcuts on science.

Hater


Called




It

[pgardn]

Hater called it.

Hater said do not rush science. You cannot take shortcuts on science.

Hater


Called




It

Yes you can.
We all do science to a degree and we all take short cuts.

For instance, lets take your highly thought out take that Trump would win the election in 2016 and then a week before the election you backed out and called CLINTON. All of your hours of careful thought and advanced polling said Trump, and you dumped it like an ugly bride.

[boutons_deux]

Nebraska Gov:

Undocumented Meat Packers Won't Get Vaccine

undocumented immigrants working at the state's meatpacking plants will probably not be able to get

Ricketts explained in response to a reporter's question that the vaccine will definitely ask "Papers, please,"

"If you're working in the plants you're supposed to be here legally [...]

So to get the vaccination, you gotta be working here legally to be a part of the food-processing program,

so there's not going to be a conflict here."

https://www.wonkette.com/nebraska-governor-undocumented-meat-packers-wont-get-vaccine-because-reasons

Why doesn't Ricketts call ICE to empty the plants? Maybe they would hurt the profits of his campaign donors?

[boutons_deux]

A new coronavirus strain is 70% more transmissible —

and it's already widespread in the US

The mutated strain that's ravaging England is now appearing all over the United States

Researchers estimate that the variant has an increased transmission rate of 50 to 70 percent compared to other variants in the UK.

What that means is that this strain is infecting more people.

"There are mathematical models that have been put forth that suggest that this can be transmitted more rapidly than the kind of current strain that we have,"

the mathematical model Rutherford is referring to is the basic reproductive number, known as "R".

"And that's the number of secondary cases you can expect, on average, for every primary case," Rutherford said.

"So, if there are 10 primary cases and 14 secondary cases, the effective reproductive number is 1.4."

B117's transmission rate is between 1.5 and 1.7.

Part of the so-called success of this variant could be the mutations that have happened within the variant;

they appear to affect the spike protein (https://www.salon.com/2020/06/30/a-new-coronavirus-mutation-affects-the-spike-protein-that-invades-human-cells/) that attaches to human cells,

essentially improving its ability to bind to receptors on the cells.

https://www.salon.com/2021/01/07/coronavirus-strain-b117-70-percent-more-transmissible-widespread/

[hater]

https://twitter.com/GillRaeWalker/status/1347243529354018818?s=19

[ChumpDumper]

Austin's probably going to put up the convention center field hospital again.

[Winehole23]

Austin's probably going to put up the convention center field hospital again.does the state of Texas allow that?

[ChumpDumper]

does the state of Texas allow that?:lol they'll probably want to take it over if there aren't enough deaths.

[Frenchfred]

https://twitter.com/GillRaeWalker/status/1347243529354018818?s=19

you know that during the trials, 6 people died. 3 took the vaccine from Pfizer and 3 took the placebo. Can we conclude that the vaccine is dangerous?

[lefty]

:lmao


1347248755859283969

[boutons_deux]

Harris county reports first case of the new, highly contagious variant

[boutons_deux]

Early days, but ...

Virus variant found in S. Africa may resist antibodies
https://www.livescience.com/south-african-coronavirus-variant-antibody-resistant.html

[boutons_deux]

you know that during the trials, 6 people died. 3 took the vaccine from Pfizer and 3 took the placebo. Can we conclude that the vaccine is dangerous?

estimate is that 1 in 100K jabs will cause a "reaction"

[Winehole23]

Called it

https://twitter.com/lamuta27881931/status/1345638277521547266?s=19Disclosed at the same time as Mexican approval for the vaccine. We know this because Mexico approved.

[SnakeBoy]

Early days, but ...

Virus variant found in S. Africa may resist antibodies
https://www.livescience.com/south-african-coronavirus-variant-antibody-resistant.html

It's been "may resist" for three weeks now. It's a simple test to know the answer.

[pgardn]

It's been "may resist" for three weeks now. It's a simple test to know the answer.

Its NOT simple to know if its resistant to the vaccine however.
Im gonna go with a resounding NO.
I bet I win.

[pgardn]

Disclosed at the same time as Mexican approval for the vaccine. We know this because Mexico approved.

Hater scared of virus, vaccine, Christmas, and Father's Day.

[tholdren]

Hater scared of virus, vaccine, Christmas, and Father's Day.

Lol remember you said hospitals would be over capacity? In march, November and decamber
?


Lol fauci

[ElNono]

^ gossip

[pgardn]

Lol remember I said hospitals would be over capacity? In march, November and decamber
?


I love fauci

K

[tholdren]

Lol remember you said hospitals would be over capacity? In march, November and decamber
?


Lol fauci

Beahahahahahhahahahahhahagagahahgaha

Surge on a surge.. lololoololol

[TimDunkem]

^ Sick fuck.

[tholdren]

Beahahahahahhahahahahhahagagahahgaha

Surge on a surge.. lololoololol

Remember that data. Surge on a surge. Masks work ask California

[TimDunkem]

^Sick fuck

[tholdren]

Remember that data. Surge on a surge. Masks work ask California

What happened TimDunkem to the masks?

[TimDunkem]

^Sick fuck.

[Monostradamus]

The absolute incompetence of New York leadership is staggering :lol
https://twitter.com/jonfavs/status/1347575731677659138?s=21

[tholdren]

The absolute incompetence of New York leadership is staggering :lol
https://twitter.com/jonfavs/status/1347575731677659138?s=21

It's all trumps fault!!! Cry

[Monostradamus]

It's all trumps fault!!! Cry
Why would you blame Trump for this?

[TimDunkem]

tholdren confirmed retarded for the 1938490349394th time.

[tholdren]

Why would you blame Trump for this?

Sarcasm from me. Lifelong trigger for TimDunkem baselinebum Elwrongwrong.and ChumpDumper

[ChumpDumper]

Sarcasm from me. Lifelong trigger for TimDunkem baselinebum Elwrongwrong.and ChumpDumperYou're mentally ill.


Numbers don't lie.

[TimDunkem]

This site really feeds into the addictions of the mentally ill. Derp and Fold would be better off logging off and forgetting that this site ever existed.

[ChumpDumper]

Only question foldren has to answer.

Is 215 > 131, foldren?

Yes or no.

[Monostradamus]

Sarcasm from me. Lifelong trigger for TimDunkem baselinebum Elwrongwrong.and ChumpDumper
So you think if Trump was responsible, he’d be efficiently delivering the vaccine that you think is part of a global conspiracy? So you still would hate Trump right?

[tholdren]

So you think if Trump was responsible, he’d be efficiently delivering the vaccine that you think is part of a global conspiracy? So you still would hate Trump right?

I dont blame any one person. Its a virus. This has turned into being a.victim if you get the virus. Someone "gave it to me"
...
If you're scared stay home. If you get it, it's your own fault. This virus is dangerous to the old and frail just like any other respiratory virus. Its not the spanish flu, it's not even polio. If you're scared, be scared, but let others live their life.

Only the lowest iq people feel that you should ruin another person's life to make you feel safe.

[pgardn]

Lol remember I said hospitals would be over capacity? In march, November and decamber
?


I love fauci

K