Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

[ChumpDumper]

what is Cuck sucker's objective? anti-vax? anti-mask? pro-herd-immunity? anti-science? anti-govt?

TSA always goes over his skis with some boilerplate Trumper stance and works himself up into such a lather about it that he ends up pushing the same baby eating QAnon theory he has supported and has never disavowed five years on.

[SnakeBoy]

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[hater]

1456228345583128580

Perfect timing to escape to Florida :tu
Freedom :tu

[ChumpDumper]

1456228345583128580Waves gonna wave.

[Winehole23]

rapid testing should be ubiquitous and cheap, the inertia on this looks more like a feature than an oversight.

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[boutons_deux]

"southern states have such low rates of Covid" :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

the Confederate/red states dominate the country for highest covid deaths/100K citizens


https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/

the The Trump-Made Pandemic is now the Trump-Made Pandemic of Confederate/red states

[SnakeBoy]

rapid testing should be ubiquitous and cheap, the inertia on this looks more like a feature than an oversight.

1456228551443812354

This is old news. Michael Mina pushed for cheap home testing strategy early in the pandemic. Your hero Fauci rejected the idea because the peoples couldn't be trusted and he wouldn't be able to collect the all important data.

[SnakeBoy]

OSHA rules finally released

Businesses have until after the holidays to implement Biden Covid vaccine mandate
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/04/biden-vaccine-mandate-businesses-have-until-after-christmas-to-comply.html


https://i.imgur.com/tDSwLTn.jpeg

[ChumpDumper]

OSHA rules finally released

Businesses have until after the holidays to implement Biden Covid vaccine mandate
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/04/biden-vaccine-mandate-businesses-have-until-after-christmas-to-comply.html


https://i.imgur.com/tDSwLTn.jpeg:tu

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1456344326603255815?t

[Cuck Ross]

OSHA rules finally released

Businesses have until after the holidays to implement Biden Covid vaccine mandate
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/04/biden-vaccine-mandate-businesses-have-until-after-christmas-to-comply.html


https://i.imgur.com/tDSwLTn.jpeg


1456290753794252804

1456340325082046465

:rollin

[InRareForm]

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1456242303866134530?t=8CLzbF_eiNh6iSFzCf2KvA&s=19

[LaMarcus Bryant]

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1456242303866134530?t=8CLzbF_eiNh6iSFzCf2KvA&s=19

Check out how immune north Italy still is to rona lol.

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1456344326603255815?t
ok randesevir

[SnakeBoy]

ok randesevir

randesivir works, remdesivir does not

[SnakeBoy]

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1456242303866134530?t=8CLzbF_eiNh6iSFzCf2KvA&s=19

Midwest & northreast blue states will be facing their own big spikes soon. Looks like Michigan is getting it started already.

[RandomGuy]

Lol afraid to post the link

:rollin

"infowars.com" I can see why. That was the first link when I searched for the text string.

" a PhD in operations research from Cornell University in 1989. His PhD thesis, titled Optimal Control of Favorable Games with a Time Limit"

Operations research.

Not the "epidemiologist" he puts on his CV. Still not a reason to dismiss it out of hand, merely to be somewhat skeptical and look more closely at the claims.

[ChumpDumper]

Check out how immune north Italy still is to rona lol.

Why are we not congratulating Sardinia?

[RandomGuy]

randesivir works, remdesivir does not

Let's go light bulbs internally!

[Cuck Ross]

:rollin

"infowars.com" I can see why. That was the first link when I searched for the text string.

" a PhD in operations research from Cornell University in 1989. His PhD thesis, titled Optimal Control of Favorable Games with a Time Limit"

Operations research.

Not the "epidemiologist" he puts on his CV. Still not a reason to dismiss it out of hand, merely to be somewhat skeptical and look more closely at the claims.
The link and full article was posted a few pages back.

https://brownstone.org/articles/a-review-and-autopsy-of-two-covid-immunity-studies/


Martin Kulldorff (born 1962, Lund in Sweden), is a professor of medicine at Harvard Medical School (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvard_Medical_School)and a biostatistician at the Brigham and Women's Hospital (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigham_and_Women%27s_Hospital).[2] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Kulldorff#cite_note-DFHCC-2) He serves on scientific advisory committees to the Food and Drug Administration (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_and_Drug_Administration)and the Centers for Disease Control (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centers_for_Disease_Control_and_Prevention).[1] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Kulldorff#cite_note-umu-1)[3] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Kulldorff#cite_note-:0-3)

Kulldorff developed a free SaTScan software program used for geographical and hospital disease surveillance as well as a TreeScan software program for data mining. He is the co-developer of the R-Sequential software program for exact sequential analysis.[5] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Kulldorff#cite_note-PMC6984739-5)[non-primary source needed (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research#Primary,_secondary_ and_tertiary_sources)] However, his key scientific contribution is the development of the statistical and epidemiological methods (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemiological_method) that are used in the software. These methods include spatial and space-time scan statistics, the tree-based (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decision_tree_learning) scan statistics (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scan_statistics) and various sequential analysis methods.[6] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Kulldorff#cite_note-6)[

Kulldorff is a member of the scientific council for drug safety and risk management at the Food and Drug Administration (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_and_Drug_Administration),[1] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Kulldorff#cite_note-umu-1) and a member of the Centers for Disease Control (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centers_for_Disease_Control_and_Prevention)'s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices.[3] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Kulldorff#cite_note-:0-3)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Kulldorff

[boutons_deux]

Study: Children spread COVID-19 more than previously thought

If school is a potential source of COVID-19 transmission,

vaccinating young kids is even more important to protect the adults they love, researchers say

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2021/11/04/study-children-spread-covid-19-more-than-previously-thought

[hater]

Study: Children spread COVID-19 more than previously thought

If school is a potential source of COVID-19 transmission,

vaccinating young kids is even more important to protect the adults they love, researchers say

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2021/11/04/study-children-spread-covid-19-more-than-previously-thought

Blah blah blah

Kids are fine

[spurraider21]

Blah blah blah

Kids are fine
the article was about them spreading it. not dying of it.

[Ef-man]

Study: Children spread COVID-19 more than previously thought

If school is a potential source of COVID-19 transmission,

vaccinating young kids is even more important to protect the adults they love, researchers say

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2021/11/04/study-children-spread-covid-19-more-than-previously-thought


Blah blah blah

Kids are fine

Guess reading compression is not stressed in Bolivia. :lol

[Thread]

Study: Children spread COVID-19 more than previously thought

If school is a potential source of COVID-19 transmission,

vaccinating young kids is even more important to protect the adults they love, researchers say

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2021/11/04/study-children-spread-covid-19-more-than-previously-thought

Nothing but a goose to get the 5-11 crowd to bug mother & father to get shot.

[hater]

the article was about them spreading it. not dying of it.

Exactamundo

[hater]

Nothing but a goose to get the 5-11 crowd to bug mother & father to get shot.

Yup

[ElNono]

Salvadorian man forgets he posted this:
car crashes are not a airborne transmissible disease

Man destroyed his own point that it was a spot on comparison

I didn't forget anything. How is that a contradiction?

Also, you brought up car crashes to a covid response, are you saying bolivarian man was wrong?

[ElNono]

https://twitter.com/PeterSweden7/status/1454503198895575042?s=19

Norway had severe lockdowns until recently:
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/norway-again-postpones-end-covid-lockdown-2021-07-28/

Denmark did too, and also have a "corona passport":
https://www.politico.eu/article/denmark-sets-out-path-life-after-lockdown-coronavirus/

And Sweden didn't go that route and it shows:
Sweden has recorded more COVID-19 cases per capita than most countries so far: Since the start of the pandemic, roughly 11 out of every 100 people in Sweden have been diagnosed with COVID-19, compared with 9.4 out of every 100 in the UK and 7.4 per 100 in Italy. Sweden has also recorded around 145 COVID-19 deaths for every 100,000 people — around three times more than Denmark, eight times more than Finland, and nearly 10 times more than Norway.
https://www.businessinsider.com/sweden-covid-no-lockdown-strategy-failed-higher-death-rate-2021-8

[ElNono]

The CDC contradicted the 5X more protection CDC study you posted later that day.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/vaccine-induced-immunity.html#anchor_1635539757101

That's a brief, not a study. Link the study.

[ElNono]

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I'll explain: cherry picked "Past week"

[ElNono]

Perfect timing to escape to Florida :tu
Freedom :tu

:lol Florida ranks #8 in most deaths per capita in the US from COVID...

erm... I mean, go ahead :tu

[ElNono]

https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1456344326603255815?t

Fauci owns Rand Paul again, ya hate to see it...

[Nathan89]

:lol Florida ranks #8 in most deaths per capita in the US from COVID...

erm... I mean, go ahead :tu

Per capita is not a good breakdown when we all know the virus impacts demos at very different rates.

[ElNono]

Per capita is not a good breakdown when we all know the virus impacts demos at very different rates.

Present a better metric then. It's certainly way better than totals, which don't account for population nor demographics.

[Winehole23]

The sly, knowing reference to differential impact. Per capita doesn't tell you what it means for whitey.

you racist son of a bitch

[Nathan89]

Present a better metric then. It's certainly way better than totals, which don't account for population nor demographics.

I don't have a source for the data. I've seen an age group graphic of Florida vs another state in the past that highlighted this to me. I'm just stating per capita isn't a good measure imo. I know it's the best figure that's easily attainable. You can proceed however you'd like.

[ElNono]

The sly, knowing reference to differential impact. Per capita doesn't tell you what it means for whitey.

you racist son of a bitch

I could see the point of demos in old vs young people. I mean, that distribution would need to be substantially different across States (dubious), but let's pretend in the case of Florida it happens to be.

It still doesn't explain how Mississippi and Alabama are #1 and #2 respectively, and if there's a better metric, bring it.

[ElNono]

Well, we can always look at the oldest population by State to look how different it is:

https://www.prb.org/resources/which-us-states-are-the-oldest/

Looks to be an average difference of ~5% for people 65 and older...

[Winehole23]

I could see the point of demos in old vs young people. I mean, that distribution would need to be substantially different across States (dubious), but let's pretend in the case of Florida it happens to be.

It still doesn't explain how Mississippi and Alabama are #1 and #2 respectively, and if there's a better metric, bring it.Nathan89 is who he is.

[Nathan89]

I could see the point of demos in old vs young people. I mean, that distribution would need to be substantially different across States (dubious), but let's pretend in the case of Florida it happens to be.

It still doesn't explain how Mississippi and Alabama are #1 and #2 respectively, and if there's a better metric, bring it.

If you look at general health in these states you will start explaining a lot of that. My quick search ranks those two states as 1 and 3 for fattest states in America.

[ElNono]

If you look at general health in these states you will start explaining a lot of that. My quick search ranks those two states as 1 and 3 for fattest states in America.

I hear you. Obesity is definitely a factor. Affects nearly 42% of all Americans.

[RandomGuy]

The link and full article was posted a few pages back.

https://brownstone.org/articles/a-review-and-autopsy-of-two-covid-immunity-studies/


Martin Kulldorff (born 1962, Lund in Sweden), is a professor of medicine at Harvard Medical School (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvard_Medical_School)and a biostatistician at the Brigham and Women's Hospital (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigham_and_Women%27s_Hospital).[2] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Kulldorff#cite_note-DFHCC-2) He serves on scientific advisory committees to the Food and Drug Administration (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_and_Drug_Administration)and the Centers for Disease Control (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centers_for_Disease_Control_and_Prevention).[1] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Kulldorff#cite_note-umu-1)[3] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Kulldorff#cite_note-:0-3)

Kulldorff developed a free SaTScan software program used for geographical and hospital disease surveillance as well as a TreeScan software program for data mining. He is the co-developer of the R-Sequential software program for exact sequential analysis.[5] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Kulldorff#cite_note-PMC6984739-5)[non-primary source needed (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research#Primary,_secondary_ and_tertiary_sources)] However, his key scientific contribution is the development of the statistical and epidemiological methods (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemiological_method) that are used in the software. These methods include spatial and space-time scan statistics, the tree-based (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decision_tree_learning) scan statistics (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scan_statistics) and various sequential analysis methods.[6] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Kulldorff#cite_note-6)[

Kulldorff is a member of the scientific council for drug safety and risk management at the Food and Drug Administration (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_and_Drug_Administration),[1] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Kulldorff#cite_note-umu-1) and a member of the Centers for Disease Control (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centers_for_Disease_Control_and_Prevention)'s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices.[3] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Kulldorff#cite_note-:0-3)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Kulldorff




Read that. Not a medical doctor.

Still, he has sufficient training to opine on study design.

I found it funny that infowars was the first thing that popped up in my search. That says volumes about the political agenda behind this.

[RandomGuy]

If you look at general health in these states you will start explaining a lot of that. My quick search ranks those two states as 1 and 3 for fattest states in America.

Chickenshit Nathan makes an appearance.

Probably not to answer the question "Is slavery evil?" like every other non-chickenshit human being.

[RandomGuy]

I don't have a source for the data. .

You never fucking do. That would worry most people, but I am guessing you... not so much.

[BackHome]

Man Europe is getting torn up again with Covid it’s going to be a terrible Winter for them dealing with rise in Covid and huge increase in Energy bills.

[hater]

https://twitter.com/CorrectingMatch/status/1456484610699776006?s=19

[Blake]

So edgy

I wonder if the mortician can get that permanent marker ink off

[SnakeBoy]

Covid News: Biden Aide Tests Positive for Coronavirus
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/11/04/world/covid-delta-variant-vaccine

Biden WH is a festering cesspool of disease

[DarrinS]

Covid News: Biden Aide Tests Positive for Coronavirus
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/11/04/world/covid-delta-variant-vaccine

Biden WH is a festering cesspool of disease


Didn't that twice vaxxed + boosted, human freckle, Psaki get it?

[SnakeBoy]

Didn't that twice vaxxed + boosted, human freckle, Psaki get it?

Yep

[SnakeBoy]

https://twitter.com/CorrectingMatch/status/1456484610699776006?s=19

lol guess some still believe the 2 weeks thing could have ever worked.

The "experts" did a number on germaphobe Trump with that one. It's a shame he fell for it.

[Winehole23]

"I am a hall of fame NFL quarterback, listen to me!"

1456677479435972616

[DarrinS]

He doesn't look or sound sick 48 hrs after his positive test. Good for him.

[spurraider21]

:lmao jimmy dore

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[boutons_deux]

COVID Has Destroyed 14 Million Years of Life For Americans,

University researchers calculated the number by assessing the ages of every person who died of COVID-19 in 31 countries.

They then compared each person's age of death to the average life expectancy of men and women in each country.

The researchers used each country's life expectancy, as established between 2005 and 2019, as the benchmark.

In short, researchers subtracted the ages of deceased people from what their life expectancy might've been had they not died of COVID-19.

By doing this, they calculated an estimate of the years of life lost (YLL) for each country.

https://www.newsweek.com/covid-has-destroyed-14-million-years-life-americans-oxford-study-finds-1646192

American Capitalists are thrilled that useless old people who don't work to make Capitalists more wealthy are dead, and not wasting Medicare, Medicaid, SS money that the Capitalists plan to pocket.

[hater]

https://twitter.com/survivalnomics/status/1456789767765495810?s=19

[SnakeBoy]

:lmao jimmy dore

1456708366315708421

That's why you never trust a leftist

[hater]

:lmao jimmy dore

1456708366315708421

Nothing wromg with Mr Dores statement :tu

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/p843x403/253748790_178557104465901_5041767284382927441_n.jp g?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=OC-Cb-nCVB8AX9u5a_c&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=30a09e46a479045a22d352028bde6e36&oe=61AD1805

[spurraider21]

That's why you never trust a leftist
He’s a republican

[pgardn]

He’s a republican

Yeah.
But clearly a leftist Republican.
Plenty of them running around.
Romney, both Bush boys, Jeff Sessions. all traitors....

[SnakeBoy]

He’s a republican

He's one of the few Bernie bros who refused to be cucked

[pgardn]

Trump showed us how not to be cucked.
8 million votes worth.

[pgardn]

Didn't that twice vaxxed + boosted, human freckle, Psaki get it?


Yep

And this proves the WH is infested with the virus...
Got it.

What else does it prove or even mean?

[spurraider21]

He's one of the few Bernie bros who refused to be cucked
All his content is anti left and anti dem. He’s a republican

[boutons_deux]

Candace Owens Compares Child Vaccination Efforts to Hitler and Stalin Youth Programs

https://www.newsweek.com/candace-owens-covid-vaccination-stalin-hitler-fox-news-1646667

She's in it for the money?

[hater]

All his content is anti left and anti dem. He’s a republican

This is a stupid way of thinking...

[spurraider21]

This is a stupid way of thinking...
Not in a 2 party system

If your entire agenda is taking people who lean left and try to convince them to not vote Democrat, you are a Republican operative

[Blake]

This is a stupid way of thinking...

Yeah well it's a free country. He can be a republican if he wants

[hater]

:tu freedom

https://twitter.com/TXAG/status/1457045504710356999?s=19

[hater]

Not in a 2 party system

If your entire agenda is taking people who lean left and try to convince them to not vote Democrat, you are a Republican operative

There is such a thing as an independent in a.2.party system.

As I said if you really believe what you say its a retarded way of thinking.

[ChumpDumper]

There is such a thing as an independent in a.2.party system.

As I said if you really believe what you say its a retarded way of thinking.What do you say are Dore's political beliefs?

[spurraider21]

There is such a thing as an independent in a.2.party system.

As I said if you really believe what you say its a retarded way of thinking.


If your entire agenda is taking people who lean left and try to convince them to not vote Democrat, you are a Republican operative
to me, whether he's just a really misguided leftist who is just a useful idiot to the right, or somebody intentionally doing the bidding of republicans... makes no difference at all since they're equally harmful. he's taking people who would theoretically lean left and is dissuading them from voting for the party that closest aligns with them politically. that's bad when the only alternative is the GOP

[hater]

to me, whether he's just a really misguided leftist who is just a useful idiot to the right, or somebody intentionally doing the bidding of republicans... makes no difference at all since they're equally harmful. he's taking people who would theoretically lean left and is dissuading them from voting for the party that closest aligns with them politically. that's bad when the only alternative is the GOP

Or hes independent. Dumbo

[Blake]

What do you say are Dore's political beliefs?

Lol crickets

[hater]

https://twitter.com/TheGumAngel/status/1456967866671144969?s=19

[Ef-man]

What do you say are Dore's political beliefs?


Lol crickets

Worse than crickets! Hater retweets crap in anger.

Sure signal he is desperate. :lol

[Splits]

https://twitter.com/TheGumAngel/status/1456967866671144969?s=19

1457121825746526211

[hater]

:tu

https://twitter.com/provoziert/status/1456998701449293833?s=19

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/p843x403/253114111_240995331465382_9163073426365230577_n.jp g?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=bY4AsJy3E84AX_bx2Si&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=3bf147c63efb68eb9c585fbd910d5c93&oe=61AE5AFD

[SnakeBoy]

Denver Zoo reports world's first coronavirus cases in hyenas

[TDMVPDPOY]

opening borders for international travel,

how do you know that tourists/traveller from a shit hole of a country is vaccinated? the brand vaccine is accepted on the list of vaccines? how do you know if they didnt purchase the certificate or whatever identification proof vaccinated to fly?

[SnakeBoy]

COVID cases break records across Europe as winter takes hold
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/covid-cases-break-records-across-europe-as-winter-takes-hold/ar-AAQjBXu?ocid=uxbndlbing

Blue states next in line

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDdF7iXXMAUI1-C?format=jpg&name=large

[SnakeBoy]

Kimchi May Have Helped Lower South Korea’s COVID-19 Fatalities, European Study Suggests
https://nextshark.com/kimchi-helped-lower-south-koreas-covid-19-fatalities-study-finds/

[daboom1]

New respect for Aaron Rogers :tu

[ChumpDumper]

^vaccinated

[Isitjustme?]

The absolute fucking Kings

1457121009362952198

[Isitjustme?]

New respect for Aaron Rogers :tu

"Shut up and dribble"

[daboom1]

whataboutery.exe

[Isitjustme?]

whataboutery.exe



"Shut up and dribble"

oh, hey wait..

Not you A.R. :tongue:tongue:tongue:cheer:cheer:cheer

https://i.etsystatic.com/26102263/r/il/b8fb2a/2704069650/il_794xN.2704069650_43f8.jpg
https://fanatics.frgimages.com/FFImage/thumb.aspx?i=/productimages/_2553000/altimages/ff_2553035alt2_full.jpg&w=900
https://i.pinimg.com/1200x/15/fc/e3/15fce30f5ae4eebc68423b242108858b.jpg

[hater]

:tu freedom

https://twitter.com/GovLauraKelly/status/1456627100593659906?s=20

[hater]

:lmao

https://twitter.com/Reikihodler/status/1457311918494941184?s=19

[boutons_deux]

Working for the oligarchy, the poiticized 5th Circuit, New Orleans, blocks BigCorp-hated OSHA's vaccine mandate.

[hater]

Working for the oligarchy, the poiticized 5th Circuit, New Orleans, blocks BigCorp-hated OSHA's vaccine mandate.

:tu

[boutons_deux]

Cruz attacking pro-vaccine Big Bird, also:

https://images.dailykos.com/images/1005722/large/3.jpeg?1636304861

[SnakeBoy]

1457376266395471873

[SnakeBoy]

https://nypost.com/2021/11/07/eric-adams-wants-to-end-school-mask-mandates/

Mayor-elect Eric Adams took to the airwaves Sunday and declared he wants to nix mask mandates in the classroom and called himself "conservative" on public safety.

Adams fears masks are stopping students from making friends and said he wants to end the school mask mandate when he takes office come Jan. 1.

"Part of the socialization of a child is that smile."

As recently as Thursday city officials could not say what it would take to lift the mask requirement in public schools, even as kids aged 5 and up can now get the COVID-19 vaccine.

[Blake]

1457376266395471873

Hopefully more Coloradans get the vaccine.

"Officials said about 40% of hospitals have or are anticipating staff shortages in the next week.

"As of yesterday, we were at 1,267 people hospitalized in Colorado with Covid-19, still below that peak of 1,847. But our trajectory does continue to go up, and it is growing rapidly," Bookman said. "Obviously these are incredibly concerning numbers and we're working with our hospitals... to ensure that we are using every bed available."

Unvaccinated people comprise 80% of those who are hospitalized, Bookman added."

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/05/health/colorado-icu-beds/index.html

[boutons_deux]

"From April 1, 2020 through June 30, 2021, data suggest that

more than 140,000 children under age 18 in the United States lost a parent, custodial grandparent, or grandparent caregiver

who provided the child’s home and basic needs, including love, security, and daily care.

Overall, the study shows that approximately 1 out of 500 children in the United States has experienced COVID-19-associated orphanhood or death of a grandparent caregiver.

There were racial, ethnic, and geographic disparities in COVID-19-associated death of caregivers: children of racial and ethnic minorities accounted for 65% of those who lost a primary caregiver due to the pandemic.

Children’s lives are permanently changed by the loss

of a mother, father, or grandparent who provided their homes, basic needs, and care.

Loss of a parent is among the adverse childhood experiences (ACEs) linked to

mental health problems;

shorter schooling;

lower self-esteem;

sexual risk behaviors; and

increased risk of substance abuse, suicide, violence, sexual abuse, and exploitation.

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p1007-covid-19-orphaned-children.html

"Fuck the kids, we Repugs, rightwing hate media gotta own the libs"

[ChumpDumper]

Hopefully more Coloradans get the vaccine.

"Officials said about 40% of hospitals have or are anticipating staff shortages in the next week.

"As of yesterday, we were at 1,267 people hospitalized in Colorado with Covid-19, still below that peak of 1,847. But our trajectory does continue to go up, and it is growing rapidly," Bookman said. "Obviously these are incredibly concerning numbers and we're working with our hospitals... to ensure that we are using every bed available."

Unvaccinated people comprise 80% of those who are hospitalized, Bookman added."

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/05/health/colorado-icu-beds/index.htmlIt's a mystery!

[koriwhat]

:lmao

https://twitter.com/Reikihodler/status/1457311918494941184?s=19

You have to pander to the woke mob shitlibs with cartoons, puppets, and the like because they're all children in adult bodies. They all love their shitty super hero movies and all their shitty cartoon commercials/tv shows geared towards them. Stupid worthless children 20+ yrs of age. SMH

[ChumpDumper]

If they really want to reach the cool people they should tat their calves.

[Trainwreck2100]

:tu freedom

https://twitter.com/GovLauraKelly/status/1456627100593659906?s=20
if you don't want to take the vaccine you don't have to, fucking take a test once a week.

[DarrinS]

Don't know effective vaccines are, but I haven't gotten it again. And, I haven't exactly tried to be careful. :lol

I know. N = 1

[koriwhat]

if you don't want to take the vaccine you don't have to, fucking take a test once a week.

STFU

[koriwhat]

Don't know effective vaccines are, but I haven't gotten it again. And, I haven't exactly tried to be careful. :lol

I know. N = 1

LMAO I have never gotten the China Virus and I eat out every damn day, am around endless amounts of people at work and out of work, so what exactly are yall vaccinated doing to catch the Commie Virus that I am not? Here's hoping I stay Commie free!

[DarrinS]

LMAO I have never gotten the China Virus and I eat out every damn day, am around endless amounts of people at work and out of work, so what exactly are yall vaccinated doing to catch the Commie Virus that I am not? Here's hoping I stay Commie free!

Maybe you already had it, but never knew.

[koriwhat]

Maybe you already had it, but never knew.

Lmao If I did I had no symptoms whatsoever. Here here to vitamins, no fat fuck MickeyD's, and no comorbidities!

[Trainwreck2100]

STFU

You got a problem with a wittle nose swab?

[Blake]

LMAO I have never gotten the China Virus and I eat out every damn day, am around endless amounts of people at work and out of work, so what exactly are yall vaccinated doing to catch the Commie Virus that I am not? Here's hoping I stay Commie free!

I mean, if you didn't even get sick then what's everyone else doing wrong, right?

[spurraider21]

LMAO I have never gotten the China Virus and I eat out every damn day, am around endless amounts of people at work and out of work, so what exactly are yall vaccinated doing to catch the Commie Virus that I am not? Here's hoping I stay Commie free!
cant believe you wont take the side of the patriotic, american-trump developed vaccine against the commie china virus tbh

[Winehole23]

Maybe you already had it, but never knew.Here's hoping we both stay commie-free

[boutons_deux]

A mild infection means mild level of antibodies, inviting more infections.

Long covid is seen also in people with mild symptoms.

30K - 40K STILL DYING every month, nearly every covid dead refused vaccination.

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/s320x320/254150582_597330944915156_6203893095829057353_n.jp g?_nc_cat=107&_nc_rgb565=1&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=dbeb18&_nc_ohc=ORxqESe4Y1kAX8lnq8Z&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=b1a1434c15dd3185c266574fa0e7f32e&oe=61AE0BA6

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/253892853_243448477886734_7474221883070922176_n.jp g?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=O6wAashzor8AX_z25qz&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=6eca8df0036620c97f1d0ba37442e54c&oe=61ADB65D

[boutons_deux]

Like Fox and anti-vax propagandists

Anti-vax Illinois teacher who'd ranted at school board meetings for months was actually vaccinated

https://www.rawstory.com/media-library/teacher-kadence-koen-photo-screen-capture.png?id=27926156&width=800&height=450

math and business teacher Kadence Koen of Springfield School District 186

https://www.rawstory.com/anti-vaccine-teacher-was-vaccinated (https://www.rawstory.com/anti-vaccine-teacher-was-vaccinated/[email protected]&utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=8191)

[boutons_deux]

Heavy Trump-voting counties have 'more than three times higher' Covid rate than Biden counties

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-counties-infection-rates

[koriwhat]

cant believe you wont take the side of the patriotic, american-trump developed vaccine against the commie china virus tbh

I'm just following the same line of thinking as Cuntmala Harris and Mr Poopy Pants when they claimed to be anti-vax due to Trump's vaccine(s).

[Blake]

I'm just following the same line of thinking as Cuntmala Harris and Mr Poopy Pants when they claimed to be anti-vax due to Trump's vaccine(s).

Following the alt right fake news like a good tatted lemming

[spurraider21]

I'm just following the same line of thinking as Cuntmala Harris and Mr Poopy Pants when they claimed to be anti-vax due to Trump's vaccine(s).
fake news

[koriwhat]

fake news

Yeah it's really fake news when they all stated because of Trump they don't trust nor want the vaccine(s) but now since they're on top they want to force inject that crap into us all. You're a fucking sheep bro but do you if it gives you peace of mind.

[koriwhat]

Oh and BlaKKKe die bitch die! Tired of seeing your stupid fucking notifications when I login to ST daily. IDGAF what you have to say to me yet you continue to believe I do. I don't read anything you post and haven't for a long time now. I'm not gay bro so go find yourself a boyfriend elsewhere you fruity bastard!

[Blake]

Oh and BlaKKKe die bitch die! Tired of seeing your stupid fucking notifications when I login to ST daily. IDGAF what you have to say to me yet you continue to believe I do. I don't read anything you post and haven't for a long time now. I'm not gay bro so go find yourself a boyfriend elsewhere you fruity bastard!

:lol koriwhat's meltdowns

[boutons_deux]

A Far Right MN Man Ran For School Board As Anti-Vaxxer.

A Stint In ICU With Wife Changed His Mind.

the story of a Kanabec County, Minnesota man who knew it all, thanks to Facebook and Project Veritas videos on YouTube.

He was fearless, disrespectful to President Biden, and ignorant of the true dangers of Covid-19 until it sent him to the ER.

He was admitted to the COVID ICU unit that day and

his wife Monica experienced symptoms and joined him across the hall - in the same unit - a day later.

"I should've taken the risk and gotten the shot :lol

Currently his wife is said to be doing much worse and has been placed on a ventilator.

https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2021/11/5/2062241/-A-Far-Right-MN-Man-Ran-For-School-Board-As-Anti-Vaxxer-A-Stint-In-ICU-With-Wife-Changed-His-Mind

[BackHome]

So been reading that Covid has now jumped to the Deer population a lot of heard are spreading it with a big outbreak in Iowa? So do we Kill all the Deer like they killed all the Minks where Denmark culled 17 million Minks at 200 Mink farms? What are the chances it mutates and the Deer population give us a possible combo Covid/Wasting disease is that even possible?

[hater]

So been reading that Covid has now jumped to the Deer population a lot of heard are spreading it with a big outbreak in Iowa? So do we Kill all the Deer like they killed all the Minks where Denmark culled 17 million Minks at 200 Mink farms? What are the chances it mutates and the Deer population give us a possible combo Covid/Wasting disease is that even possible?

Why kill all d deer?

[hater]

:lmao The Brandon White House :lol

https://twitter.com/RubinReport/status/1457844045338742786?s=19

[hater]

:lmao

https://twitter.com/jason_meister/status/1457059821631545346?s=19

[spurraider21]

Yeah it's really fake news when they all stated because of Trump they don't trust nor want the vaccine(s) but now since they're on top they want to force inject that crap into us all. You're a fucking sheep bro but do you if it gives you peace of mind.
Yep that’s fake news

[Blake]

A Far Right MN Man Ran For School Board As Anti-Vaxxer.

A Stint In ICU With Wife Changed His Mind.

the story of a Kanabec County, Minnesota man who knew it all, thanks to Facebook and Project Veritas videos on YouTube.

He was fearless, disrespectful to President Biden, and ignorant of the true dangers of Covid-19 until it sent him to the ER.

He was admitted to the COVID ICU unit that day and

his wife Monica experienced symptoms and joined him across the hall - in the same unit - a day later.

"I should've taken the risk and gotten the shot :lol

Currently his wife is said to be doing much worse and has been placed on a ventilator.

https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2021/11/5/2062241/-A-Far-Right-MN-Man-Ran-For-School-Board-As-Anti-Vaxxer-A-Stint-In-ICU-With-Wife-Changed-His-Mind



I mean that's seriously every anti vax idiot that ends up in the hospital.

":cry I should have got det shot :depressed"

[hater]

https://twitter.com/StevieStacks84/status/1448088169753219076?s=19

[hater]

https://twitter.com/TheRightMelissa/status/1446549947185238017?s=19

[koriwhat]

Yep that’s fake news

Whatever you say...
https://www.investopedia.com/thmb/wICdVWYTSo1gUDhohQ3XQzX7_04=/735x0/GettyImages-155379351-fff005c918bd467daf32c935889a4487.jpg

[boutons_deux]

4-to-1 vaccine split means COVID deaths are three times higher in Trump counties than Biden areas

Vaccine hesitancy has caused the partisan gap in death rates to be higher than ever recorded

https://www.salon.com/2021/11/08/4-to-1-vaccine-split-means-are-three-times-higher-in-counties-than-biden-areas/


btw, homicidal propagandist Fox clears about $900M pre-tax.

[pgardn]

Like Fox and anti-vax propagandists

Anti-vax Illinois teacher who'd ranted at school board meetings for months was actually vaccinated

https://www.rawstory.com/media-library/teacher-kadence-koen-photo-screen-capture.png?id=27926156&width=800&height=450

math and business teacher Kadence Koen of Springfield School District 186

https://www.rawstory.com/anti-vaccine-teacher-was-vaccinated (https://www.rawstory.com/anti-vaccine-teacher-was-vaccinated/[email protected]&utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=8191)

I bet she knows the nurse in Ohio and they both attracted anvils to fall on their magnetic heads.
Its good to know such knowledgeable citizens are watching out for our safety.

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDdF7iXXMAUI1-C?format=jpg&name=large40x less death.

What accounts for the difference?

South Korea was having opening day baseball when we were locking down in 2020, that's recalled by heart, is that roughly correct?

[Winehole23]

https://nypost.com/2020/04/21/south-korea-baseball-leagues-start-date-has-coronavirus-caveat/

[hater]

https://twitter.com/KingHaku3/status/1457865643928088581?s=19

[hater]

https://twitter.com/PureBloodKiwi/status/1457871195668287488?s=19

[ElNono]

https://twitter.com/KingHaku3/status/1457865643928088581?s=19

They have 65% of their entire population fully vaccinated. Looks like these are the remaining weirdos.

[ElNono]

https://twitter.com/PureBloodKiwi/status/1457871195668287488?s=19

4000 people? maybe 5000 if we're being generous?

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDdF7iXXMAUI1-C?format=jpg&name=large


40x less death.

What accounts for the difference?

South Korea was having opening day baseball when we were locking down in 2020, that's recalled by heart, is that roughly correct?


https://nypost.com/2020/04/21/south-korea-baseball-leagues-start-date-has-coronavirus-caveat/To answer my own question, rapid testing, quarantine, travel restrictions, masking, social distancing, rapid tests, masks and quarantine instructions mailed to citizens, quarantine rations provided, medical care provided, etc..

All things we could still use in the US, has the medical emergency abated?

[hater]

They have 65% of their entire population fully vaccinated. Looks like these are the remaining weirdos.

Only 35%


:lmao

Todays Salvadorian mathematicians :lol

[boutons_deux]

To answer my own question, rapid testing, quarantine, travel restrictions, masking, social distancing, rapid tests, masks and quarantine instructions mailed to citizens, quarantine rations provided, medical care provided, etc..

All things we could still use in the US, has the medical emergency abated?

you left out the critical "citizens' compliance" with govt/medical guidance.

100M? Americans have been poisoned by Repug and right-wing-hate-media with anti-govt, anti-science FreeDumb, Rugged Macho Individualism, ignorant, paranoid fantasies, which are still killing 30K - 40K / month.

The slaughter of Americans continues inexorably towards 1M dead, and nobody is charged.

USA, a failed society, failed "for profit"

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-mia3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/252705935_243820607849521_3866863635598109561_n.jp g?_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=Oz4aDWa6HpoAX-czrLr&_nc_ht=scontent-mia3-2.xx&oh=123d91a41464d4c0c7242fba235fea90&oe=61B0B53B

[hater]

you left out the critical "citizens' compliance" with govt/medical guidance.

100M? Americans have been poisoned by Repug and right-wing-hate-media with anti-govt, anti-science FreeDumb, Rugged Macho Individualism, ignorant, paranoid fantasies, which are still killing 30K - 40K / month.

The slaughter of Americans continues inexorably towards 1M dead, and nobody is charged.

USA, a failed society, failed "for profit"

Lol BigPharma puppet

[Isitjustme?]

You have to pander to the woke mob shitlibs with cartoons, puppets, and the like because they're all children in adult bodies. They all love their shitty super hero movies and all their shitty cartoon commercials/tv shows geared towards them. Stupid worthless children 20+ yrs of age. SMH

You guys are trying to cancel Big Bird and Elmo lmao

[Isitjustme?]

Lol BigPharma puppet

uh oh, another puppet..you should try cancelling him too

[Winehole23]

mortuary trailer season isn't over yet

"crisis standards of care" means healthcare rationing.


Medical tents, trailer morgues and determinations on who gets a ventilator: Oklahoma hospitals shift toward crisis standards of care (https://tulsaworld.com/news/state-and-regional/medical-tents-trailer-morgues-and-determinations-on-who-gets-a-ventilator-oklahoma-hospitals-shift-toward/article_94b0c150-1014-11ec-817c-1ba14ba8da94.html)

[koriwhat]

You guys are trying to cancel Big Bird and Elmo lmao

I'm not trying to cancel anyone. Let's be real though, elmo should've been cancelled after it was known a pedo was behind that puppet.

[koriwhat]

you left out the critical "citizens' compliance" with govt/medical guidance.

100M? Americans have been poisoned by Repug and right-wing-hate-media with anti-govt, anti-science FreeDumb, Rugged Macho Individualism, ignorant, paranoid fantasies, which are still killing 30K - 40K / month.

The slaughter of Americans continues inexorably towards 1M dead, and nobody is charged.

USA, a failed society, failed "for profit"

Retard take by ST's own retard bouts.

[Isitjustme?]

I'm not trying to cancel anyone. Let's be real though, elmo should've been cancelled after it was known a pedo was behind that puppet.

Dang, you have like an encyclopedic knowledge of pedos

[koriwhat]

Dang, you have like an encyclopedic knowledge of pedos

As if it's "news" when it was BIGNEWS at the time of its exposure. Go fuck yourself you bitchass!

[RandomGuy]

https://scontent-mia3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/252705935_243820607849521_3866863635598109561_n.jp g?_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=Oz4aDWa6HpoAX-czrLr&_nc_ht=scontent-mia3-2.xx&oh=123d91a41464d4c0c7242fba235fea90&oe=61B0B53B

:lol

[RandomGuy]

mortuary trailer season isn't over yet

"crisis standards of care" means healthcare rationing.

even more tragic is the verbal abuse leveled at hospital staff from families that think COVID is a hoax.

[Winehole23]

even more tragic is the verbal abuse leveled at hospital staff from families that think COVID is a hoax.that's pretty bad, but I think the healthcare rationing is worse. COVID is chewing up hospitals.

[hater]

https://twitter.com/mazemoore/status/1457899306074132483?s=19

[koriwhat]

Hopefully Gavin Newsom isn't fine!

[hater]

:lmao Pfizer CEO wants to lock up anyone talking shit about his products :lmao :lol :lmao

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1458130215826251779?s=20

https://twitter.com/FRANK_SINATRA7/status/1458130495158558729?s=19

[hater]

https://twitter.com/Kumadoesthings/status/1458135719898230788?s=19

[hater]

:lmao taking unlimited boosters from a Vet :lmao

https://twitter.com/jtidmarsh/status/1458147085153456135?s=19

[Adam Lambert]

The Trump vaccine works.

1458094563042729995

Sorry, hater.

[SnakeBoy]

4000 people? maybe 5000 if we're being generous?

It's the quality not the quantity

1458102541972131840

[ElNono]

Only 35%

:lmao

Todays Salvadorian mathematicians :lol

??? They're a nation of 5 million people. The State of Washington have more people than them lol

[ElNono]

It's the quality not the quantity

1458102541972131840

Well that explains things

[hater]

The Trump vaccine works.

1458094563042729995

Sorry, hater.

Barking at the wrong tree, Nancy

I always said old and sick should get vaxed.

And btw this study does not take into consideration waning immunity by vaxes. And uses a period starting in Jan when noone was vaxed :lol

Still as I said. Old and sick should get vaxed as it will help preventing serious illness :tu

Cheers

[hater]

??? They're a nation of 5 million people. The State of Washington have more people than them lol

What does the total have to do with the percentage? :lol

35% of a billion or 10 is still 35% :lol

[Adam Lambert]

Barking at the wrong tree, Nancy

I always said old and sick should get vaxed.

And btw this study does not take into consideration waning immunity by vaxes. And uses a period starting in Jan when noone was vaxed :lol

Still as I said. Old and sick should get vaxed as it will help preventing serious illness :tu

Cheers

I'm barking up the correct tree. The vaxxed old and sick still face unnecessary risk if the rest of the population isn't vaxxed.

Your POV leads to more people dying. But there's still time to change your mind and be on the right side of history.:tu

[hater]

I'm barking up the correct tree. The vaxxed old and sick still face unnecessary risk if the rest of the population isn't vaxxed.

Your POV leads to more people dying. But there's still time to change your mind and be on the right side of history.:tu

Why would a vaccinated individual fear the virus? Vaccines prevent serious illnes no?

Follow the science and dont be scared. :tu

[spurraider21]

The Trump vaccine works.

1458094563042729995


https://c.tenor.com/oGo3P-2HBAoAAAAC/he-cant-keep-getting-away-with-it.gif

[hater]

Barking at the wrong tree, Nancy

I always said old and sick should get vaxed.

And btw this study does not take into consideration waning immunity by vaxes. And uses a period starting in Jan when noone was vaxed :lol

Still as I said. Old and sick should get vaxed as it will help preventing serious illness :tu

Cheers

[spurraider21]

study wasnt just about the old and sick :lol. its main point was actually about younger people


The protective effect of vaccination was most pronounced among younger people. From Sept. 4 to Oct. 1, the risk of COVID-19 death was 23 times higher in unvaccinated people in their 30s and 55 times higher for people in their 40s, when compared with their vaccinated peers, the study found. (https://www.dshs.texas.gov/immunize/covid19/data/vaccination-status.aspx)

In that period, there were fewer than 10 COVID-19 deaths among fully vaccinated people ages 18 to 29 compared with 339 deaths among unvaccinated people in that age group, the study found. (https://www.dshs.texas.gov/immunize/covid19/data/vaccination-status.aspx)

https://c.tenor.com/oGo3P-2HBAoAAAAC/he-cant-keep-getting-away-with-it.gif

[hater]

study wasnt just about the old and sick :lol. its main point was actually about younger people

What were the comorbities, Nancy

As I said old and sick should vax.

The rest should be voluntary :tu

Cheers

[hater]

* correction everyone should have a choice. But old and sick should really be encouranged. And if they still wanna suicide by Virus. Ce.la vi :tu

[Adam Lambert]

Why would a vaccinated individual fear the virus? Vaccines prevent serious illnes no?

Follow the science and dont be scared. :tu

The science says that while the risk is much lower, vaccinated old and sick people can still get serious COVID cases if exposed.

You yourself have said the same thing during your own tweet-sprees where you dunk on the vaccine by posting examples of breakthrough cases as evidence that the vaccine is ineffective.

Follow the science and your own arguments and don't be stupid. :tu

[hater]

The science says that while the risk is much lower, vaccinated old and sick people can still get serious COVID cases if exposed.

You yourself have said the same thing during your own tweet-sprees where you dunk on the vaccine by posting examples of breakthrough cases as evidence that the vaccine is ineffective.

Follow the science and your own arguments and don't be stupid. :tu

Correct.

We also know vaccinated still transmit the virus and are contagious. So people will die regardless.

Follow the science :tu

Cheers

[Adam Lambert]

Correct.

We also know vaccinated still transmit the virus and are contagious. So people will die regardless.

Follow the science :tu

Cheers

They are 63% less likely to do so.

Science: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.10.14.21264959v1

[Adam Lambert]

Correct.

We also know vaccinated still transmit the virus and are contagious. So people will die regardless.

Follow the science :tu

Cheers

This is redundant.

Follow the sentence. :tu

[Blake]

https://twitter.com/mazemoore/status/1457899306074132483?s=19

You're such a sad little man

[hater]

They are 63% less likely to do so.

Science: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.10.14.21264959v1

Not peer reviewed and lots of holes. Considered 1 dose ppl ar unvaxed when 1 dose ppl are more vulnerable to infection the first couple of weeks.

Its a good start but far from calling it "the. Science"

Cheers

[SnakeBoy]

I'm barking up the correct tree. The vaxxed old and sick still face unnecessary risk if the rest of the population isn't vaxxed.

Your POV leads to more people dying. But there's still time to change your mind and be on the right side of history.:tu

You're not following the science

[Adam Lambert]

Not peer reviewed and lots of holes. Considered 1 dose ppl ar unvaxed when 1 dose ppl are more vulnerable to infection the first couple of weeks.

Its a good start but far from calling it "the. Science"

Cheers

The 63% number is based on fully vaccinated, not one dose.

Read the science. :tu

[Adam Lambert]

You're not following the science

Follow the leader ^

[ChumpDumper]

:lol ST's vaxxed antivaxxers are still melting down because they vaccines they took and are against are working.

[BackHome]

I got the shot as soon as I could and got my parents to get the shot. So i believe in the shot and believe people should get it well for me anyone over 30 or anyone who has medical problems. But I would not demand people to get the shot as I went through that in the military as we all Were Told To Take Anthrax Shot Or Get Dishonorable Discharge. I can honestly tell you that a lot of guys in my unit are now dealing with weird diseases even before Covid and have been going to the VA which off courses says nothing wrong - just as they said nothing wrong with Agent Orange for so many years...

We are not going to Vaccine are way out of this will be dealing this for a long time just like the Flu every year different variants.

[Ef-man]

This is redundant.

Follow the sentence. :tu

:lol

He needs to review his English as a Second Language courses!

[Blake]

I got the shot as soon as I could and got my parents to get the shot. So i believe in the shot and believe people should get it well for me anyone over 30 or anyone who has medical problems. But I would not demand people to get the shot as I went through that in the military as we all Were Told To Take Anthrax Shot Or Get Dishonorable Discharge. I can honestly tell you that a lot of guys in my unit are now dealing with weird diseases even before Covid and have been going to the VA which off courses says nothing wrong - just as they said nothing wrong with Agent Orange for so many years...

We are not going to Vaccine are way out of this will be dealing this for a long time just like the Flu every year different variants.

Oh look another "this is just the flu" post. What is this, 2020?

[hater]

I got the shot as soon as I could and got my parents to get the shot. So i believe in the shot and believe people should get it well for me anyone over 30 or anyone who has medical problems. But I would not demand people to get the shot as I went through that in the military as we all Were Told To Take Anthrax Shot Or Get Dishonorable Discharge. I can honestly tell you that a lot of guys in my unit are now dealing with weird diseases even before Covid and have been going to the VA which off courses says nothing wrong - just as they said nothing wrong with Agent Orange for so many years...

We are not going to Vaccine are way out of this will be dealing this for a long time just like the Flu every year different variants.

:tu

Agreed and been calling this since pretty much the getgo

Freedom :tu

[hater]

Oh look another "this is just the flu" post. What is this, 2020?

November 2021, Nancy

[hater]

The 63% number is based on fully vaccinated, not one dose.

Read the science. :tu

Unfortunately, the vaccine’s beneficial effect on Delta transmission waned to almost negligible levels over time. In people infected 2 weeks after receiving the vaccine developed by the University of Oxford and AstraZeneca, both in the UK, the chance that an unvaccinated close contact would test positive was 57%, but 3 months later, that chance rose to 67%. The latter figure is on par with the likelihood that an unvaccinated person will spread the virus.

A reduction was also observed in people vaccinated with the jab made by US company Pfizer and German firm BioNTech. The risk of spreading the Delta infection soon after vaccination with that jab was 42%, but increased to 58% with time.

Delta vaults ahead

“There’s a step-change with Alpha versus Delta, but then there’s also a change over time,” says co-author David Eyre, an epidemiologist at the University of Oxford, UK. The results “possibly explain why we’ve seen so much onward transmission of Delta despite widespread vaccination”.


https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02689-y

FOLLOW DA SCIENCE. ma homie :tu

Cheers

[Blake]

November 2021, Nancy

Thanks Karen.

[ElNono]

What does the total have to do with the percentage? :lol

35% of a billion or 10 is still 35% :lol

That they're not a whole lot of people, which is exactly the point I was making.

[Ef-man]

That they're not a whole lot of people, which is exactly the point I was making.

Poor hater not following the math nor has he a clue as to what :lol means, as much as he uses it.

Hate to see it.

[Winehole23]

The science says that while the risk is much lower, vaccinated old and sick people can still get serious COVID cases if exposed.

You yourself have said the same thing during your own tweet-sprees where you dunk on the vaccine by posting examples of breakthrough cases as evidence that the vaccine is ineffective.

Follow the science and your own arguments and don't be stupid. :tuProtection from disease?

What a concept. :tu

[hater]

That they're not a whole lot of people, which is exactly the point I was making.

Then you dont use percentages, Nancy :lol

[hater]

Protection from disease?

What a concept. :tu


Unfortunately, the vaccine’s beneficial effect on Delta transmission waned to almost negligible levels over time. In people infected 2 weeks after receiving the vaccine developed by the University of Oxford and AstraZeneca, both in the UK, the chance that an unvaccinated close contact would test positive was 57%, but 3 months later, that chance rose to 67%. The latter figure is on par with the likelihood that an unvaccinated person will spread the virus.

A reduction was also observed in people vaccinated with the jab made by US company Pfizer and German firm BioNTech. The risk of spreading the Delta infection soon after vaccination with that jab was 42%, but increased to 58% with time.

Delta vaults ahead

“There’s a step-change with Alpha versus Delta, but then there’s also a change over time,” says co-author David Eyre, an epidemiologist at the University of Oxford, UK. The results “possibly explain why we’ve seen so much onward transmission of Delta despite widespread vaccination”.


https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02689-y

FOLLOW DA SCIENCE. ma homie :tu

Cheers

Follow da science

[Blake]

Follow da science

Lol you think you are

[Blake]

Follow da science

Lol you think you are

[RandomGuy]

[attempts to explain principles of statistics to someone neither educated nor smart enough to understand it]

Good luck with that. The Dunning-Kruger is strong in this one.

[SnakeBoy]

'Ongoing failure': Berkeley Dept. of Public Health pans Cal football program's 'major COVID outbreak'

100% vaxxed
100% infected

[Winehole23]

'Ongoing failure': Berkeley Dept. of Public Health pans Cal football program's 'major COVID outbreak.

100% vaxxed
100% infectedFootball players run hard and breathe directly in each others faces. it's a contact sport, there's a bit of close talking. But also lots of extracurricular chatter, like school or the office.

What's your point? That vaccines don't confer sterilizing immunity?

[Winehole23]

I fail to see how that is an effective riposte to the robust protection vaccines provide against disease and death.

[ChumpDumper]

'Ongoing failure': Berkeley Dept. of Public Health pans Cal football program's 'major COVID outbreak'

100% vaxxed
100% infected

None of the players or staffers have been reported as seriously ill, which is line with the efficacy of the COVID-19 vaccines.

Berkeley Department of Public Health vehemently defended its testing policy, which has drawn the ire of Cal football players. A spokesperson pointed out that Cal-OSHA’s workplace safety rules "define any workplace environment with 20 cases as a 'major outbreak.”'

Cal's football program has more than doubled that standard, so "the City of Berkeley has recommended that Cal test all exposed individuals at the cadence indicated in Cal-OSHA COVID-19 Prevention Emergency Temporary Standards, which includes guidance for 'major outbreaks.'"

https://www.sfgate.com/collegesports/article/cal-football-covid-outbreak-44-cases-berkeley-16608097.php

:tu

Trying to see what your problem is here.

[hater]

[B]
None of the players or staffers have been reported as seriously ill, which is line with the efficacy of the COVID-19 vaccines.


Its also in line with unvaxed healthy young adults :lmao

[Cuck Ross]

Getting Back to Normal Is Only Possible Until You Test Positive
I was ultracareful for 18 months. Then I got COVID.


When I first received the invitation to the wedding where I would eventually get COVID, I was on the fence about attending at all. My best friend had gone through a tough divorce and was remarrying. I was thrilled for him. His wedding had been put off repeatedly because of COVID, and this was the couple’s second try at a real ceremony. As a bonus, the wedding would take place in New Orleans, where my friend lives. I hadn’t seen him since before the pandemic. New Orleans is a miraculous place, and my favorite city to visit in America. The notion of a trip there shone out of the fog and dreariness of this whole era of history.


The downside, of course, was the risk of exposure to COVID. Sure, I’m vaccinated—two shots of Pfizer—and the wedding’s other attendees would all be vaccinated too. But breakthrough cases happen, and we’d be in New Orleans in October, a place where cases were still high and vaccination was inconsistent. One could not expect to not get exposed to COVID.


But then I reasoned both with myself and with my wife. COVID was unlikely to kill me, a vaccinated 39-year-old endurance athlete. I would be fine, and even if I gave the coronavirus to any of my family members, they too would almost certainly be fine. My wife is vaccinated, and our young children’s risk of serious illness, while not nonexistent, is very low. I went back and forth, looking at flights and realizing that I’d probably have to travel through Las Vegas and have a considerable layover. I put off RSVPing one way or the other, and thought I would end up passively not going, the slow slide into a never-booked flight.


But for some reason, one morning in early October, I got the “last call” email about the wedding and I revisited the prospect. Everything was beginning to seem more and more normal. The radio station where I host a show was encouraging people to come back into the office. I saw laughing, maskless people in my social-media feeds and in restaurant windows. The Delta-variant surge was easing in most places. Cases were coming down. The really vulnerable were getting boosters. Kid vaccinations were on the horizon. Filled with a surge of love for my friends and New Orleans and a sense that, you know what, I’m ready to nose out into a new tier of risk, I booked a flight; I’d be going solo.


As the day approached, my wife and I had not run through every scenario. I still was not precisely sure how the wedding would work, COVID-wise. My friend is a doctor, and I knew the crowd would mostly be New York and California people. There would be no anti-vaxxers among the guests, and the invitation said they’d follow the local public-health protocols. And I think I didn’t want to know too much. If I’m honest with myself, once I decided to go, it felt like I’d committed to taking on some risk. At the same time, my wife and I had been in lockstep on COVID stuff for so long that I don’t think I had the courage to really say: Hey, I want to go to this wedding, and it’s probably going to be maskless and … are we really okay with that? I don’t think she wanted to be the one to say no to seeing such good friends, if I was willing to do it.


And so I boarded my flight without the kind of real conversation and—as important—return plan that we should have made. I spent hours in an N95 mask in the Las Vegas airport and on planes before arriving in Louisiana and heading to the welcome drinks.
I walked in and saw that people were all inside, fairly densely packed in a big room. No one was wearing a mask. Everyone was celebrating like people who haven’t seen one another for a long time, ready for a wedding weekend in the greatest city in America. For some reason, I was shocked.


I don’t know why I didn’t expect it to look like that. Maybe I thought we’d be in a garden under some nice string lights, mostly keeping masks on, in that maybe it helps way. I almost turned around and begged off the night of drinks, figuring that the next day would be less risky. But I’d come all that way. Here were my friend’s family and closest friends, the woman he’d fallen in love with. I just couldn’t do it. And all the everyone is vaccinated reasoning started to play in my head. I ordered a tequila and soda, pushed breakthrough infections out of mind, made some new friends, and had a great time.


The wedding was maskless too. But in a huge, airy, gorgeous building. There was a second line (https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2009/03/all-the-streets-a-stage/307280/) through the streets, and people danced and waved white handkerchiefs with the names of the bride and groom. We wore tuxedos and listened to old-time music at Preservation Hall and made jokes and got a little drunk, mostly hanging around outside. When that part ended, a bunch of people went next door to a huge party spot, but I left as soon as I saw the piano-bar-and-club scene there.
My wife was rightfully getting worried. It seemed not unlikely that I’d get exposed to COVID. Had we really been thinking clearly? Had we really wanted to take on that level of risk? Honestly, once I’d been in the situation, the realness started to unfurl. Outside the wedding events, I’d followed our protocols from home, staying outside, masking inside, etc. But attending the wedding was much riskier than I’d wanted to admit before I’d done it.


Walking back across the city, the energy of wanting things to be normal was thick. I felt it too. After spending so much of my time studying COVID, being a part of the response with the COVID Tracking Project, and writing many stories about the pandemic, I was over it. I was done. I don’t know that I could have admitted that to myself, but I just wanted it all to go away. And there in New Orleans, for a few days, it seemed like it had. Just look at all those people singing at the piano bar, dancing to Lizzo, arm in arm with friend and stranger alike.


The next day, away from the wedding and visiting with my best friend, it became more and more obvious. My wife and I needed a plan for my return. I’d do a rapid PCR test at the airport. At least that would get me somewhere.
My kids were so happy to see me, and after my negative result came back, to hug me. Was I actually safe? No, I knew I was not. I should have quarantined. But I had stuck my wife with the kids for four days, and I wanted to get back in the mix and help. That seemed like the right thing to do.


On Monday, I felt fine, but I took an antigen test anyway (negative). I scheduled a PCR test for the next day. By the time my appointment arrived, I’d started to have some postnasal drip and what felt like a possibly psychosomatic tickle in my throat. Tuesday night—four days after the wedding—my PCR result came back negative, and despite having what felt like a cold, I figured I was pretty close to being in the clear.


The next day, my symptoms were about the same. I did an intense Peloton workout and it felt fine, though maybe my legs were a little slow. I wasn’t eager to test again; a negative PCR test seemed good enough. But my wife heard me cough—one of only maybe 20 coughs throughout my whole sickness—and said, “Couldn’t you take another antigen test?”


I was on the phone with a young geographer, talking about doing research at Bay Area libraries, and kind of absentmindedly did the swabbing. When I looked down a few minutes later, I had tested positive. Maybe a false positive? I immediately took another antigen test and the little pink line was practically red, it was so dark. Wrapping up the call, I packed my things quickly, texted my wife the result, walked outside with an N95 mask on, and waited for all hell to break loose.
I was able to find a long-term rental on our block thanks to an angelic neighbor. I set my bags down inside and tried to figure out what I had to do. The worst-case scenario that I’d imagined was that I’d get sick, mildly, as I did. I ended up taking one day off from work, and even that was more of a precaution. I felt pretty sick, like when you have a cold, but I’ve probably been sicker 15 times as an adult. As someone who has thought so much about COVID science, it was almost interesting to experience: Oh! That’s what losing your smell is like.



But the real worst-case scenario was everything that happened to the people around me. My kids had to come out of school and isolate with my wife. A raft of tests had to be taken by everyone I’d had even limited contact with. (I was one of at least a dozen people at the wedding who got sick.) I had been with several older people, including my mother-in-law. For my wife and children, the tests went on for days and days, each one bringing a prospective new disaster and 10 to 14 more days of life disruption or worse.


But for me, the very worst part was my children. They knew, cognitively, that I was vaccinated and unlikely to get really sick. That said, COVID-19, for them, is a terrible thing. The past year and a half of their lives has been disrupted by this virus. They take precautions every single day not to have this happen.


They reacted in different ways. My nonbinary 8-year-old was so mad and maybe so scared that they could barely look at me. My 5-year-old daughter proved her status as the ultimate ride-or-die kid. She brought a chair down the street so she could sit 20 feet away from me outside in her mask, as I sat on the porch in an N95. I’m not sure which reaction was more heartbreaking. It was as if one never wanted to see me again and the other didn’t want to let me out of her sight.


These vaccines are amazing. I was and am fine. But as The Atlantic’s Sarah Zhang described in her recent article “America Has Lost the Plot on COVID (https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/11/what-americas-covid-goal-now/620572/),” we have developed the least logical system around them. “The least vaccinated communities have some of the laxest restrictions, while highly vaccinated communities … tend to have some of the most aggressive measures aimed at driving down cases,” Zhang writes.


In the communities where ignoring the pandemic is the norm, COVID testing may not be standard—and even when testing takes place, the required isolation and quarantining procedures are sometimes ignored. As I’ve found, you really are on your own to set the limits of what you do. And given the requirements and difficulties of isolating, I can imagine that few people are willing and able to follow the letter of the law.


A positive test sets in motion huge hassles and anxieties for anyone you’ve been in contact with. This is how we slow the spread, right? It makes sense. And also, families and businesses and schools and event venues are trying to return to normal. Perhaps the risks of going into an office every day are far less than those of going to a wedding in New Orleans. But in the course of actual normal life in the places that have fought this virus the hardest, there will be more positive tests. Just in the past few weeks, I’ve seen more and more of them around me here in the Bay Area.


For people pondering edging back into normal life, or trying to jump in headfirst as I did, it’s easy to do the risk calculation only about physical health; that’s really what this was about for so long. But the vaccines changed that, and we need to update our mental spreadsheets. The life disruption—the logistical pain you cause those around you—is now a major part of any bad scenario. As I write this, I’m now 10 days past my first symptoms, but I continue to test positive on antigen tests, and so I have not returned home. I haven’t hugged my kids for 10 days. They missed a whole week of school, and my wife’s work life got turned upside down—even though they never tested positive or got sick. I blame no one but myself for this. We cannot will this pandemic to be over. Lord knows I tried.


I understand that my scenario is far better than could or would have played out in a pre-vaccination world. So many communities were hit hard. I have enjoyed tremendous privilege to keep my risk low before now. We got lucky that I didn’t infect anyone vulnerable. I’m so grateful my wife insisted that I take just one more test.


In social worlds like mine, though, where most people do work from home, where people have minimized risk and gotten vaccinated, we’re at a weird moment. Things aren’t likely to change that much for quite some time. Even after however many kids get vaccinated, there will still be breakthrough infections. Other variants could spread. Maybe we’re in this space for another year or two or three. One way to put the question of endemicity is: When do we start treating COVID like other respiratory illnesses?


I don’t know the answer. And I’m not even sure who should be trying to answer the question. There are many outstanding mysteries about long COVID. There are still so many unvaccinated Americans, and that number seems unlikely to shift a lot anytime soon. Right now most policies appear designed to make life seem normal. Masks are coming off. Restaurants are dining in. Planes are full. Offices are calling. But don’t be fooled: The world’s normal only until you test positive.




https://www.theonion.com/one-out-of-every-500-americans-have-died-from-covid-sin-1847698378

[Adam Lambert]

The study shows that people who become infected with the Delta variant are less likely to pass the virus to their close contacts if they have already had a COVID-19 vaccine than if they haven’t.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02689-y

FOLLOW DA SCIENCE. ma homie :tu

Cheers

Thanks for confirming that you are less likely to spread COVID if you've been vaccinated.

Also, since you pretended to care about this sort of thing...


Not peer reviewed and lots of holes.


The study has not yet been peer reviewed.

Read the science :tu

[hater]

Thanks for confirming that you are less likely to spread COVID if you've been vaccinated.

Also, since you pretended to care about this sort of thing...





Read the science :tu

Read the rest ma homie:

Unfortunately, the vaccine’s beneficial effect on Delta transmission waned to almost negligible levels over time. In people infected 2 weeks after receiving the vaccine developed by the University of Oxford and AstraZeneca, both in the UK, the chance that an unvaccinated close contact would test positive was 57%, but 3 months later, that chance rose to 67%. The latter figure is on par with the likelihood that an unvaccinated person will spread the virus.


Any protection becomes negligible after a couple of months.

Follow da science :tu

Cheers

[SnakeBoy]

Getting Back to Normal Is Only Possible Until You Test Positive
I was ultracareful for 18 months. Then I got COVID.


When I first received the invitation to the wedding where I would eventually get COVID, I was on the fence about attending at all. My best friend had gone through a tough divorce and was remarrying. I was thrilled for him. His wedding had been put off repeatedly because of COVID, and this was the couple’s second try at a real ceremony. As a bonus, the wedding would take place in New Orleans, where my friend lives. I hadn’t seen him since before the pandemic. New Orleans is a miraculous place, and my favorite city to visit in America. The notion of a trip there shone out of the fog and dreariness of this whole era of history.


The downside, of course, was the risk of exposure to COVID. Sure, I’m vaccinated—two shots of Pfizer—and the wedding’s other attendees would all be vaccinated too. But breakthrough cases happen, and we’d be in New Orleans in October, a place where cases were still high and vaccination was inconsistent. One could not expect to not get exposed to COVID.


But then I reasoned both with myself and with my wife. COVID was unlikely to kill me, a vaccinated 39-year-old endurance athlete. I would be fine, and even if I gave the coronavirus to any of my family members, they too would almost certainly be fine. My wife is vaccinated, and our young children’s risk of serious illness, while not nonexistent, is very low. I went back and forth, looking at flights and realizing that I’d probably have to travel through Las Vegas and have a considerable layover. I put off RSVPing one way or the other, and thought I would end up passively not going, the slow slide into a never-booked flight.


But for some reason, one morning in early October, I got the “last call” email about the wedding and I revisited the prospect. Everything was beginning to seem more and more normal. The radio station where I host a show was encouraging people to come back into the office. I saw laughing, maskless people in my social-media feeds and in restaurant windows. The Delta-variant surge was easing in most places. Cases were coming down. The really vulnerable were getting boosters. Kid vaccinations were on the horizon. Filled with a surge of love for my friends and New Orleans and a sense that, you know what, I’m ready to nose out into a new tier of risk, I booked a flight; I’d be going solo.


As the day approached, my wife and I had not run through every scenario. I still was not precisely sure how the wedding would work, COVID-wise. My friend is a doctor, and I knew the crowd would mostly be New York and California people. There would be no anti-vaxxers among the guests, and the invitation said they’d follow the local public-health protocols. And I think I didn’t want to know too much. If I’m honest with myself, once I decided to go, it felt like I’d committed to taking on some risk. At the same time, my wife and I had been in lockstep on COVID stuff for so long that I don’t think I had the courage to really say: Hey, I want to go to this wedding, and it’s probably going to be maskless and … are we really okay with that? I don’t think she wanted to be the one to say no to seeing such good friends, if I was willing to do it.


And so I boarded my flight without the kind of real conversation and—as important—return plan that we should have made. I spent hours in an N95 mask in the Las Vegas airport and on planes before arriving in Louisiana and heading to the welcome drinks.
I walked in and saw that people were all inside, fairly densely packed in a big room. No one was wearing a mask. Everyone was celebrating like people who haven’t seen one another for a long time, ready for a wedding weekend in the greatest city in America. For some reason, I was shocked.


I don’t know why I didn’t expect it to look like that. Maybe I thought we’d be in a garden under some nice string lights, mostly keeping masks on, in that maybe it helps way. I almost turned around and begged off the night of drinks, figuring that the next day would be less risky. But I’d come all that way. Here were my friend’s family and closest friends, the woman he’d fallen in love with. I just couldn’t do it. And all the everyone is vaccinated reasoning started to play in my head. I ordered a tequila and soda, pushed breakthrough infections out of mind, made some new friends, and had a great time.


The wedding was maskless too. But in a huge, airy, gorgeous building. There was a second line (https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2009/03/all-the-streets-a-stage/307280/) through the streets, and people danced and waved white handkerchiefs with the names of the bride and groom. We wore tuxedos and listened to old-time music at Preservation Hall and made jokes and got a little drunk, mostly hanging around outside. When that part ended, a bunch of people went next door to a huge party spot, but I left as soon as I saw the piano-bar-and-club scene there.
My wife was rightfully getting worried. It seemed not unlikely that I’d get exposed to COVID. Had we really been thinking clearly? Had we really wanted to take on that level of risk? Honestly, once I’d been in the situation, the realness started to unfurl. Outside the wedding events, I’d followed our protocols from home, staying outside, masking inside, etc. But attending the wedding was much riskier than I’d wanted to admit before I’d done it.


Walking back across the city, the energy of wanting things to be normal was thick. I felt it too. After spending so much of my time studying COVID, being a part of the response with the COVID Tracking Project, and writing many stories about the pandemic, I was over it. I was done. I don’t know that I could have admitted that to myself, but I just wanted it all to go away. And there in New Orleans, for a few days, it seemed like it had. Just look at all those people singing at the piano bar, dancing to Lizzo, arm in arm with friend and stranger alike.


The next day, away from the wedding and visiting with my best friend, it became more and more obvious. My wife and I needed a plan for my return. I’d do a rapid PCR test at the airport. At least that would get me somewhere.
My kids were so happy to see me, and after my negative result came back, to hug me. Was I actually safe? No, I knew I was not. I should have quarantined. But I had stuck my wife with the kids for four days, and I wanted to get back in the mix and help. That seemed like the right thing to do.


On Monday, I felt fine, but I took an antigen test anyway (negative). I scheduled a PCR test for the next day. By the time my appointment arrived, I’d started to have some postnasal drip and what felt like a possibly psychosomatic tickle in my throat. Tuesday night—four days after the wedding—my PCR result came back negative, and despite having what felt like a cold, I figured I was pretty close to being in the clear.


The next day, my symptoms were about the same. I did an intense Peloton workout and it felt fine, though maybe my legs were a little slow. I wasn’t eager to test again; a negative PCR test seemed good enough. But my wife heard me cough—one of only maybe 20 coughs throughout my whole sickness—and said, “Couldn’t you take another antigen test?”


I was on the phone with a young geographer, talking about doing research at Bay Area libraries, and kind of absentmindedly did the swabbing. When I looked down a few minutes later, I had tested positive. Maybe a false positive? I immediately took another antigen test and the little pink line was practically red, it was so dark. Wrapping up the call, I packed my things quickly, texted my wife the result, walked outside with an N95 mask on, and waited for all hell to break loose.
I was able to find a long-term rental on our block thanks to an angelic neighbor. I set my bags down inside and tried to figure out what I had to do. The worst-case scenario that I’d imagined was that I’d get sick, mildly, as I did. I ended up taking one day off from work, and even that was more of a precaution. I felt pretty sick, like when you have a cold, but I’ve probably been sicker 15 times as an adult. As someone who has thought so much about COVID science, it was almost interesting to experience: Oh! That’s what losing your smell is like.



But the real worst-case scenario was everything that happened to the people around me. My kids had to come out of school and isolate with my wife. A raft of tests had to be taken by everyone I’d had even limited contact with. (I was one of at least a dozen people at the wedding who got sick.) I had been with several older people, including my mother-in-law. For my wife and children, the tests went on for days and days, each one bringing a prospective new disaster and 10 to 14 more days of life disruption or worse.


But for me, the very worst part was my children. They knew, cognitively, that I was vaccinated and unlikely to get really sick. That said, COVID-19, for them, is a terrible thing. The past year and a half of their lives has been disrupted by this virus. They take precautions every single day not to have this happen.


They reacted in different ways. My nonbinary 8-year-old was so mad and maybe so scared that they could barely look at me. My 5-year-old daughter proved her status as the ultimate ride-or-die kid. She brought a chair down the street so she could sit 20 feet away from me outside in her mask, as I sat on the porch in an N95. I’m not sure which reaction was more heartbreaking. It was as if one never wanted to see me again and the other didn’t want to let me out of her sight.


These vaccines are amazing. I was and am fine. But as The Atlantic’s Sarah Zhang described in her recent article “America Has Lost the Plot on COVID (https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/11/what-americas-covid-goal-now/620572/),” we have developed the least logical system around them. “The least vaccinated communities have some of the laxest restrictions, while highly vaccinated communities … tend to have some of the most aggressive measures aimed at driving down cases,” Zhang writes.


In the communities where ignoring the pandemic is the norm, COVID testing may not be standard—and even when testing takes place, the required isolation and quarantining procedures are sometimes ignored. As I’ve found, you really are on your own to set the limits of what you do. And given the requirements and difficulties of isolating, I can imagine that few people are willing and able to follow the letter of the law.


A positive test sets in motion huge hassles and anxieties for anyone you’ve been in contact with. This is how we slow the spread, right? It makes sense. And also, families and businesses and schools and event venues are trying to return to normal. Perhaps the risks of going into an office every day are far less than those of going to a wedding in New Orleans. But in the course of actual normal life in the places that have fought this virus the hardest, there will be more positive tests. Just in the past few weeks, I’ve seen more and more of them around me here in the Bay Area.


For people pondering edging back into normal life, or trying to jump in headfirst as I did, it’s easy to do the risk calculation only about physical health; that’s really what this was about for so long. But the vaccines changed that, and we need to update our mental spreadsheets. The life disruption—the logistical pain you cause those around you—is now a major part of any bad scenario. As I write this, I’m now 10 days past my first symptoms, but I continue to test positive on antigen tests, and so I have not returned home. I haven’t hugged my kids for 10 days. They missed a whole week of school, and my wife’s work life got turned upside down—even though they never tested positive or got sick. I blame no one but myself for this. We cannot will this pandemic to be over. Lord knows I tried.


I understand that my scenario is far better than could or would have played out in a pre-vaccination world. So many communities were hit hard. I have enjoyed tremendous privilege to keep my risk low before now. We got lucky that I didn’t infect anyone vulnerable. I’m so grateful my wife insisted that I take just one more test.


In social worlds like mine, though, where most people do work from home, where people have minimized risk and gotten vaccinated, we’re at a weird moment. Things aren’t likely to change that much for quite some time. Even after however many kids get vaccinated, there will still be breakthrough infections. Other variants could spread. Maybe we’re in this space for another year or two or three. One way to put the question of endemicity is: When do we start treating COVID like other respiratory illnesses?


I don’t know the answer. And I’m not even sure who should be trying to answer the question. There are many outstanding mysteries about long COVID. There are still so many unvaccinated Americans, and that number seems unlikely to shift a lot anytime soon. Right now most policies appear designed to make life seem normal. Masks are coming off. Restaurants are dining in. Planes are full. Offices are calling. But don’t be fooled: The world’s normal only until you test positive.




https://www.theonion.com/one-out-of-every-500-americans-have-died-from-covid-sin-1847698378

:lmao

[Adam Lambert]

Read the rest ma homie:

Unfortunately, the vaccine’s beneficial effect on Delta transmission waned to almost negligible levels over time. In people infected 2 weeks after receiving the vaccine developed by the University of Oxford and AstraZeneca, both in the UK, the chance that an unvaccinated close contact would test positive was 57%, but 3 months later, that chance rose to 67%. The latter figure is on par with the likelihood that an unvaccinated person will spread the virus.

Any protection becomes negligible after a couple of months.

Follow da science :tu

Cheers

Thank you for again proving that getting the vaccine makes you less likely to spread COVID over some period of time.

Between the two of us, we've posted two articles that say getting the vaccine makes you less likely to transmit COVID.

It's good that we're on the same page on this. You can use your newfound knowledge that vaccines are not permanent to encourage people to get boosters so they continue to be less a danger to others. :tu

[DarrinS]

My nonbinary 8-year-old was so mad and maybe so scared that they could barely look at me


LOL

[hater]

Thank you for again proving that getting the vaccine makes you less likely to spread COVID over some period of time.

Between the two of us, we've posted two articles that say getting the vaccine makes you less likely to transmit COVID.

It's good that we're on the same page on this. You can use your newfound knowledge that vaccines are not permanent to encourage people to get boosters so they continue to be less a danger to others. :tu

Inagree over the first 2 months you get a bit more protection in terms of transmission.

That becomes negligible.after 2 months.

Given the fact that NOBODY is getting a vax every 2.months, id say most vaccinated people walking around are spreading as much virus as unvaxed.

The average vaxed person is definitely past that 2 month "protective" period.


Therefore its very correct to say "the vaxed are spreading as much virus as the unvaxed" :tu

Follow da science :tu

Cheers

[spurraider21]

Thank you for again proving that getting the vaccine makes you less likely to spread COVID over some period of time.

Between the two of us, we've posted two articles that say getting the vaccine makes you less likely to transmit COVID.

It's good that we're on the same page on this. You can use your newfound knowledge that vaccines are not permanent to encourage people to get boosters so they continue to be less a danger to others. :tu
hater will post an article with legit information

follow it up with a comment that disagreeing with and contradicting his own article

and then say "follow the science :tu"

[hater]

Fakey newsy ^

[hater]

https://twitter.com/SamvadaWorld/status/1456958291737669632?s=19

[RandomGuy]

hater will post an article with legit information

follow it up with a comment that disagreeing with and contradicting his own article

and then say "follow the science :tu"

He's like all three stooges wrapped into one by a freak transporter accident.

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/SamvadaWorld/status/1456958291737669632?s=19

Lanzhou, a city of about four million people, reported six new coronavirus cases on [last] Tuesday, and a total of 39 over the past week.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/26/world/asia/covid-china-lanzhou-lockdown.html

Are you alarmed by those numbers, hater?

Yes or no.

[hater]

Lanzhou, a city of about four million people, reported six new coronavirus cases on [last] Tuesday, and a total of 39 over the past week.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/26/world/asia/covid-china-lanzhou-lockdown.html

Are you alarmed by those numbers, hater?

Yes or no.

China using zero covid policy. So yes this is an outbreak for them, Nancypants.

And no Im not worried. Unlike you I dont double mask at the drive thru :lol

[ChumpDumper]

China using zero covid policy. So yes this is an outbreak for them, Nancypants.

And no Im not worried. Unlike you I dont double mask at the drive thru :lolSo why did you post the rando tweet, Karen?

For giggles?

Filling your quota?

[hater]

So why did you post the rando tweet, Karen?

For giggles?

Filling your quota?

You mad?

Ill keep posting whatever I want Nancy. Nothing u can do about it :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

You mad?

Ill keep posting whatever I want Nancy. Nothing u can do about it :lmao:lmao hater immediately folds

Nothing you did about it. :rollin

You'll fold whenever you're asked a simple question:lmao

:lol hater

[hater]

Interesting stuff...


https://twitter.com/AsiaPost3/status/1458516850531311631?s=19

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao hater forced to try to save face

[hater]

https://twitter.com/business/status/1455782749046861829?s=19

[Blake]

'Ongoing failure': Berkeley Dept. of Public Health pans Cal football program's 'major COVID outbreak'

100% vaxxed
100% infected

And thanks to vax will probably have 100% recovery.

[Blake]

Getting Back to Normal Is Only Possible Until You Test Positive
I was ultracareful for 18 months. Then I got COVID.


When I first received the invitation to the wedding where I would eventually get COVID, I was on the fence about attending at all. My best friend had gone through a tough divorce and was remarrying. I was thrilled for him. His wedding had been put off repeatedly because of COVID, and this was the couple’s second try at a real ceremony. As a bonus, the wedding would take place in New Orleans, where my friend lives. I hadn’t seen him since before the pandemic. New Orleans is a miraculous place, and my favorite city to visit in America. The notion of a trip there shone out of the fog and dreariness of this whole era of history.


The downside, of course, was the risk of exposure to COVID. Sure, I’m vaccinated—two shots of Pfizer—and the wedding’s other attendees would all be vaccinated too. But breakthrough cases happen, and we’d be in New Orleans in October, a place where cases were still high and vaccination was inconsistent. One could not expect to not get exposed to COVID.


But then I reasoned both with myself and with my wife. COVID was unlikely to kill me, a vaccinated 39-year-old endurance athlete. I would be fine, and even if I gave the coronavirus to any of my family members, they too would almost certainly be fine. My wife is vaccinated, and our young children’s risk of serious illness, while not nonexistent, is very low. I went back and forth, looking at flights and realizing that I’d probably have to travel through Las Vegas and have a considerable layover. I put off RSVPing one way or the other, and thought I would end up passively not going, the slow slide into a never-booked flight.


But for some reason, one morning in early October, I got the “last call” email about the wedding and I revisited the prospect. Everything was beginning to seem more and more normal. The radio station where I host a show was encouraging people to come back into the office. I saw laughing, maskless people in my social-media feeds and in restaurant windows. The Delta-variant surge was easing in most places. Cases were coming down. The really vulnerable were getting boosters. Kid vaccinations were on the horizon. Filled with a surge of love for my friends and New Orleans and a sense that, you know what, I’m ready to nose out into a new tier of risk, I booked a flight; I’d be going solo.


As the day approached, my wife and I had not run through every scenario. I still was not precisely sure how the wedding would work, COVID-wise. My friend is a doctor, and I knew the crowd would mostly be New York and California people. There would be no anti-vaxxers among the guests, and the invitation said they’d follow the local public-health protocols. And I think I didn’t want to know too much. If I’m honest with myself, once I decided to go, it felt like I’d committed to taking on some risk. At the same time, my wife and I had been in lockstep on COVID stuff for so long that I don’t think I had the courage to really say: Hey, I want to go to this wedding, and it’s probably going to be maskless and … are we really okay with that? I don’t think she wanted to be the one to say no to seeing such good friends, if I was willing to do it.


And so I boarded my flight without the kind of real conversation and—as important—return plan that we should have made. I spent hours in an N95 mask in the Las Vegas airport and on planes before arriving in Louisiana and heading to the welcome drinks.
I walked in and saw that people were all inside, fairly densely packed in a big room. No one was wearing a mask. Everyone was celebrating like people who haven’t seen one another for a long time, ready for a wedding weekend in the greatest city in America. For some reason, I was shocked.


I don’t know why I didn’t expect it to look like that. Maybe I thought we’d be in a garden under some nice string lights, mostly keeping masks on, in that maybe it helps way. I almost turned around and begged off the night of drinks, figuring that the next day would be less risky. But I’d come all that way. Here were my friend’s family and closest friends, the woman he’d fallen in love with. I just couldn’t do it. And all the everyone is vaccinated reasoning started to play in my head. I ordered a tequila and soda, pushed breakthrough infections out of mind, made some new friends, and had a great time.


The wedding was maskless too. But in a huge, airy, gorgeous building. There was a second line (https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2009/03/all-the-streets-a-stage/307280/) through the streets, and people danced and waved white handkerchiefs with the names of the bride and groom. We wore tuxedos and listened to old-time music at Preservation Hall and made jokes and got a little drunk, mostly hanging around outside. When that part ended, a bunch of people went next door to a huge party spot, but I left as soon as I saw the piano-bar-and-club scene there.
My wife was rightfully getting worried. It seemed not unlikely that I’d get exposed to COVID. Had we really been thinking clearly? Had we really wanted to take on that level of risk? Honestly, once I’d been in the situation, the realness started to unfurl. Outside the wedding events, I’d followed our protocols from home, staying outside, masking inside, etc. But attending the wedding was much riskier than I’d wanted to admit before I’d done it.


Walking back across the city, the energy of wanting things to be normal was thick. I felt it too. After spending so much of my time studying COVID, being a part of the response with the COVID Tracking Project, and writing many stories about the pandemic, I was over it. I was done. I don’t know that I could have admitted that to myself, but I just wanted it all to go away. And there in New Orleans, for a few days, it seemed like it had. Just look at all those people singing at the piano bar, dancing to Lizzo, arm in arm with friend and stranger alike.


The next day, away from the wedding and visiting with my best friend, it became more and more obvious. My wife and I needed a plan for my return. I’d do a rapid PCR test at the airport. At least that would get me somewhere.
My kids were so happy to see me, and after my negative result came back, to hug me. Was I actually safe? No, I knew I was not. I should have quarantined. But I had stuck my wife with the kids for four days, and I wanted to get back in the mix and help. That seemed like the right thing to do.


On Monday, I felt fine, but I took an antigen test anyway (negative). I scheduled a PCR test for the next day. By the time my appointment arrived, I’d started to have some postnasal drip and what felt like a possibly psychosomatic tickle in my throat. Tuesday night—four days after the wedding—my PCR result came back negative, and despite having what felt like a cold, I figured I was pretty close to being in the clear.


The next day, my symptoms were about the same. I did an intense Peloton workout and it felt fine, though maybe my legs were a little slow. I wasn’t eager to test again; a negative PCR test seemed good enough. But my wife heard me cough—one of only maybe 20 coughs throughout my whole sickness—and said, “Couldn’t you take another antigen test?”


I was on the phone with a young geographer, talking about doing research at Bay Area libraries, and kind of absentmindedly did the swabbing. When I looked down a few minutes later, I had tested positive. Maybe a false positive? I immediately took another antigen test and the little pink line was practically red, it was so dark. Wrapping up the call, I packed my things quickly, texted my wife the result, walked outside with an N95 mask on, and waited for all hell to break loose.
I was able to find a long-term rental on our block thanks to an angelic neighbor. I set my bags down inside and tried to figure out what I had to do. The worst-case scenario that I’d imagined was that I’d get sick, mildly, as I did. I ended up taking one day off from work, and even that was more of a precaution. I felt pretty sick, like when you have a cold, but I’ve probably been sicker 15 times as an adult. As someone who has thought so much about COVID science, it was almost interesting to experience: Oh! That’s what losing your smell is like.



But the real worst-case scenario was everything that happened to the people around me. My kids had to come out of school and isolate with my wife. A raft of tests had to be taken by everyone I’d had even limited contact with. (I was one of at least a dozen people at the wedding who got sick.) I had been with several older people, including my mother-in-law. For my wife and children, the tests went on for days and days, each one bringing a prospective new disaster and 10 to 14 more days of life disruption or worse.


But for me, the very worst part was my children. They knew, cognitively, that I was vaccinated and unlikely to get really sick. That said, COVID-19, for them, is a terrible thing. The past year and a half of their lives has been disrupted by this virus. They take precautions every single day not to have this happen.


They reacted in different ways. My nonbinary 8-year-old was so mad and maybe so scared that they could barely look at me. My 5-year-old daughter proved her status as the ultimate ride-or-die kid. She brought a chair down the street so she could sit 20 feet away from me outside in her mask, as I sat on the porch in an N95. I’m not sure which reaction was more heartbreaking. It was as if one never wanted to see me again and the other didn’t want to let me out of her sight.


These vaccines are amazing. I was and am fine. But as The Atlantic’s Sarah Zhang described in her recent article “America Has Lost the Plot on COVID (https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/11/what-americas-covid-goal-now/620572/),” we have developed the least logical system around them. “The least vaccinated communities have some of the laxest restrictions, while highly vaccinated communities … tend to have some of the most aggressive measures aimed at driving down cases,” Zhang writes.


In the communities where ignoring the pandemic is the norm, COVID testing may not be standard—and even when testing takes place, the required isolation and quarantining procedures are sometimes ignored. As I’ve found, you really are on your own to set the limits of what you do. And given the requirements and difficulties of isolating, I can imagine that few people are willing and able to follow the letter of the law.


A positive test sets in motion huge hassles and anxieties for anyone you’ve been in contact with. This is how we slow the spread, right? It makes sense. And also, families and businesses and schools and event venues are trying to return to normal. Perhaps the risks of going into an office every day are far less than those of going to a wedding in New Orleans. But in the course of actual normal life in the places that have fought this virus the hardest, there will be more positive tests. Just in the past few weeks, I’ve seen more and more of them around me here in the Bay Area.


For people pondering edging back into normal life, or trying to jump in headfirst as I did, it’s easy to do the risk calculation only about physical health; that’s really what this was about for so long. But the vaccines changed that, and we need to update our mental spreadsheets. The life disruption—the logistical pain you cause those around you—is now a major part of any bad scenario. As I write this, I’m now 10 days past my first symptoms, but I continue to test positive on antigen tests, and so I have not returned home. I haven’t hugged my kids for 10 days. They missed a whole week of school, and my wife’s work life got turned upside down—even though they never tested positive or got sick. I blame no one but myself for this. We cannot will this pandemic to be over. Lord knows I tried.


I understand that my scenario is far better than could or would have played out in a pre-vaccination world. So many communities were hit hard. I have enjoyed tremendous privilege to keep my risk low before now. We got lucky that I didn’t infect anyone vulnerable. I’m so grateful my wife insisted that I take just one more test.


In social worlds like mine, though, where most people do work from home, where people have minimized risk and gotten vaccinated, we’re at a weird moment. Things aren’t likely to change that much for quite some time. Even after however many kids get vaccinated, there will still be breakthrough infections. Other variants could spread. Maybe we’re in this space for another year or two or three. One way to put the question of endemicity is: When do we start treating COVID like other respiratory illnesses?


I don’t know the answer. And I’m not even sure who should be trying to answer the question. There are many outstanding mysteries about long COVID. There are still so many unvaccinated Americans, and that number seems unlikely to shift a lot anytime soon. Right now most policies appear designed to make life seem normal. Masks are coming off. Restaurants are dining in. Planes are full. Offices are calling. But don’t be fooled: The world’s normal only until you test positive.




https://www.theonion.com/one-out-of-every-500-americans-have-died-from-covid-sin-1847698378

Lol word wall anecdote from the Onion

[SnakeBoy]

Lol word salad anecdote from the Onion

lol Blake

[Blake]

lol Blake

Lol SnakeBoy. You have a pending question above that you'll never answer.

[SnakeBoy]

Lol SnakeBoy. You have a pending question above that you'll never answer.

Your posted a statement not a question

[Blake]

Your posted a statement not a question

I didn't say it was my question.

[Cuck Ross]

Lol word wall anecdote from the Onion

lol Blake
lol the Atlantic

[Blake]

lol Blake
lol the Atlantic

Lol your link

[Cuck Ross]

I didn't say it was my question.

lol sitting in the corner monitoring unanswered forum questions

[Cuck Ross]

Lol your link

lol Blake
lol the Atlantic Onion

[Blake]

lol sitting in the corner monitoring unanswered forum questions

Lol sitting here laughing at you getting clowned again.

[Blake]

lol Blake
lol the Atlantic Onion

Lol it's your link

[Cuck Ross]

Lol it's your link

lol Blake
lol my link

[ElNono]

Then you dont use percentages, Nancy :lol

Nothing wrong with percentages when you know the total amount (which is a google search away).

But I'll keep it elementary school level for you :tu

[ElNono]

'Ongoing failure': Berkeley Dept. of Public Health pans Cal football program's 'major COVID outbreak'

100% vaxxed
100% infected

Further evidence that masks and lockdowns work and are highly effective :tu

[Blake]

lol Blake
lol my link

Lol your link.

"the onion.com"

Lol Cuck

[DMC]

Further evidence that masks and lockdowns work and are highly effective :tu

What does it say about the vaccine?

[Cuck Ross]

Lol your link.

"the onion.com"

Lol Cuck

:lmao Blake

[Blake]

:lmao Blake

:lol taking derp's place as forum kickball

[Cuck Ross]

:lol taking derp's place as forum kickball
lol Blake the Onion
lol Blake the Atlantic

[Blake]

lol Blake the Onion
lol Blake the Atlantic

Lol you still don't get it, do you

[Cuck Ross]

Lol you still don't get it, do you
:lmao thinking I’m the one who doesn’t get it
:lmao muh Onion

[SnakeBoy]

Blake is slow to figure out was is going on

[Blake]

https://www.theonion.com/one-out-of-every-500-americans-have-died-from-covid-sin-1847698378

Lol you're a moron.
Lmao a SnakeBoy pretending he knows what's going on

[Cuck Ross]

Blake is slow to figure out was is going on
Blonion