Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

[TimDunkem]

BoJo out of the ICU.

[boutons_deux]

What does ‘recovered from coronavirus’ mean?

4 questions answered about how some survive and what happens next

Medically, a person must be fever-free without fever-reducing medications for three consecutive days. They must show an improvement in their other symptoms, including reduced coughing and shortness of breath. And it must be at least seven full days since the symptoms began (https://health.usnews.com/conditions/articles/coronavirus-recovery-what-to-know).
In addition to those requirements, the CDC guidelines say that a person must test negative for the coronavirus twice, with the tests taken at least 24 hours apart (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/if-you-are-sick/care-for-someone.html).

Only then, if both the symptom and testing conditions are met, is a person officially considered recovered by the CDC.

Once communities pass the peak of the epidemic, the number of new infections will decline, while the number of recovered people will increase (https://www.newsweek.com/china-says-passed-peak-coronavirus-epidemic-covid-19-1491863).

As these trends continue, the risk of transmission will fall.

Once the risk of transmission has fallen enough,

community-level isolation and social distancing orders will begin to relax and businesses will start to reopen.

Based on what other countries have gone through,

it will be months until the risk of transmission is low (https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00154-w) in the U.S.

https://theconversation.com/what-does-recovered-from-coronavirus-mean-4-questions-answered-about-how-some-survive-and-what-happens-next-134883

Trash wants to open up 1 May, the Internationalist Socialist Workers labor day.

[picnroll]

BoJo the conquerer. :worthy:

[ChumpDumper]

BoJo out of the ICU.Obviously took Trump's miracle cure in secret.

[SnakeBoy]

I wish I could get the antibody test to see if I really had it or not.
I am going to bitch at my doctor some more to see if he will relent and test me.
I think the tests are still rolling out and/or are limited and more than likely I will not rate being important enough to get a test-at least soon

South Texas Blood & Tissue is doing free antibody testing to get plasma. It's unclear if you have to be a confirmed positive though. I sent them an email so I'll see what they say.

Methodist started antibody testing on Tuesday so my wife planned to get tested but the conversation went...

How much is the test?
We don't know, we'll bill your insurance
Will my insurance cover it?
We don't know
Well how much could it cost me ballpark?
We don't know
Okay never mind.

[hater]

BoJo out of the ICU.

he will become most popular toothless PM in history

[Splits]

1248294697887567880

:lmao AIDS

Thread (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=19320) I'm sure you're going to be watchin'

5yC7HwPh6Es

[Blake]

They think this crisis makes a good case for all of healthcare to be run by a central govt bureaucracy

It's an added notch on the belt

[SnakeBoy]

I wish I could get the antibody test to see if I really had it or not.
I am going to bitch at my doctor some more to see if he will relent and test me.
I think the tests are still rolling out and/or are limited and more than likely I will not rate being important enough to get a test-at least soon


South Texas Blood & Tissue is doing free antibody testing to get plasma. It's unclear if you have to be a confirmed positive though. I sent them an email so I'll see what they say.


South Texas Blood & Tissue called me. They're still setting up & training. I get tested for antibodies on Thursday then donate plasma if positive above a certain level.

I'm going to be bummed if I'm negative.

[hater]

1248294697887567880

:lmao AIDS

Thread (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=19320) I'm sure you're going to be watchin'

5yC7HwPh6Es

stupid

lets have dr sanjay and a walking virus discuss the situation

[TimDunkem]

Trump setting up a task force to focus on reopening the economy "soon".

[Blake]

Trump setting up a task force to focus on reopening the economy "soon".

He needs his Mar Del Lago

[boutons_deux]

Trump setting up a task force to focus on reopening the economy "soon".

hated experts are saying the infection spread must be nearly zero before ending suppression

Trash's true believin' cult mob gonna get slaughtered.

If Trash cult mob company mgmt says come to work, or You're Fired, then what?

[RandomGuy]

So do all the failed countries in Europe.

Yet not one of them has given up their national health care system.

You know they spend less than half of what we do per capita on health care and have better outcomes, right?

[TimDunkem]

hated experts are saying the infection spread must be nearly zero before ending suppression

Trash's true believin' cult mob gonna get slaughtered.

If Trash cult mob company mgmt says come to work, or You're Fired, then what?

"Kansas Republicans Undo Governor’s Coronavirus Order Prohibiting Large Religious Gatherings"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/04/kansas-republicans-governor-coronavirus-order-large-religious-gatherings-easter.amp

[Blake]

"Kansas Republicans Undo Governor’s Coronavirus Order Prohibiting Large Religious Gatherings"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/04/kansas-republicans-governor-coronavirus-order-large-religious-gatherings-easter.amp

Jesus Christ

[ChumpDumper]

Yet not one of them has given up their national health care system.

You know they spend less than half of what we do per capita on health care and have better outcomes, right?Apparently our culture will keep it from being a good thing so our culture which makes private health care the envy of no other country will save us.

[TimDunkem]

Again, I don't trust models that assume America isn't filled with religious nuts defying orders to stay home for Dead Jesus Day.

[Blake]

Apparently our culture will keep it from being a good thing so our culture which makes private health care the envy of no other country will save us.

CUZ I DON'T TRUST BIG GOVERNMENT TO HANDLE IT. I TRUST THE BIG INSURANCE AND PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES TO GIVE ME THE BEST CARE AT THE BEST PRICE

USA :tu USA :tu USA USA

[RandomGuy]

BoJo out of the ICU.

Good for him. Hope he gets better.

[RandomGuy]

Fauci and the woman set it up at 240k.

By what time frame, geenyus?

[ChumpDumper]

CUZ I DON'T TRUST BIG GOVERNMENT TO HANDLE IT. I TRUST THE BIG INSURANCE AND PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES TO GIVE ME THE BEST CARE AT THE BEST PRICE

USA :tu USA :tu USA USAlel meltdown #bidencorpse #trump+hydroxychloroquine4lyfe

[TSA]

Trump setting up a task force to focus on reopening the economy "soon".

https://mobile.twitter.com/CNN/status/1248342405222256640

[ChumpDumper]

https://mobile.twitter.com/CNN/status/1248342405222256640Define "strictly necessary."

Let's see your models and how many people you want to let die.

I know Trump is putting together a Death Panel but I'd like to know what you want.

[SnakeBoy]

Yet not one of them has given up their national health care system.

You know they spend less than half of what we do per capita on health care and have better outcomes, right?

You know Joe Biden's corpse and its DNC puppeteers will never give you national health care, right?

[midnightpulp]

CUZ I DON'T TRUST BIG GOVERNMENT TO HANDLE IT. I TRUST THE BIG INSURANCE AND PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES TO GIVE ME THE BEST CARE AT THE BEST PRICE

USA :tu USA :tu USA USA

The knockdown argument against the Conservative fear that universal healthcare would be some centralized government clusterfuck is the fact the American military exists, which is "universal national defense." The American military has the most advanced tech in the world, has probably spurred more broad technological innovation over the past 50 years (i.e. Internet) than any other "industry," and when swift action is called for, we're "shocking and aweing" in like 20 minutes from the time a president signs a war declaration.

Now imagine if we were as passionate about building up and funding a healthcare infrastructure like we are with funding the military? We'd have a healthcare system that would put Europe's to shame. But no, goat farmers with 70s Soviet hand-me-downs are the "real" threat.

[baseline bum]

Trump setting up a task force to focus on reopening the economy "soon".

Great. So we get to go back on track for 2 million.

[SnakeBoy]

President Trump's swift action on stopping travel combined with the effects of national shutdown will result in more lives created or saved than any other POTUS in history.

[ChumpDumper]

President Trump's swift action on stopping travel combined with the effects of national shutdown will result in more lives created or saved than any other POTUS in history.Are you lying to yourself about that too? The most dangerous point is when you start believing your own bullshit.

[midnightpulp]

President Trump's swift action on stopping travel combined with the effects of national shutdown will result in more lives created or saved than any other POTUS in history.

Trump hasn't issued any national shutdown order. As far as the travel ban, it was a good precaution, but interestingly, the virus strain that has slammed New York was found to be of European lineage.

Anyhow, I'll credit him where it's due, but it's still 100 percent fuckin' inexcusable for him that he continued to downplay it ("Stock market looking good! Don't worry about the virus!") into early March. That's why I feel the China ban was more a political dog whistle to "the base" rather than actual concern. There's no defending that 6 week period where he downplayed and downplayed, while his Fox News propaganda machine were calling it a Democratic hoax to hurt his re-election chances.

[Trill Clinton]

its real out here


1248318315489001472

[midnightpulp]

Ja-fucking-PAN. :tu

https://news.yahoo.com/japan-pay-companies-move-production-200603807.html

And USA-USA-USA-USA-USA (we're a joke):

https://news.yahoo.com/walmart-says-invest-425-million-155324623.html

And ^ the proverbial Cletus will continue to shop there as he yells at the Fox News about them sneaky chinks :lol

[baseline bum]

https://mobile.twitter.com/CNN/status/1248342405222256640

Shit will get shut down one business at a time anyways as people start seeing their neighbors dying just like it did in 1918.

[boutons_deux]

travel ban, it was a good precaution

it was false bullshit, a smoke screen, 100Ks of Chinese came to USA after the bullshit ban, some from Woohand

[CosmicCowboy]

If you add the covidennials being created during the lockdown and subtract the covid deaths it will probably be a positive number.

[ChumpDumper]

If you add the covidennials being created during the lockdown and subtract the covid deaths it will probably be a positive number.Where did you get this one? SnakeBoy was making some similar noise earlier.

[baseline bum]

If you add the covidennials being created during the lockdown and subtract the covid deaths it will probably be a positive number.

This might be about the worst time for someone to become pregnant with a heightened immune system considering most of the COVID deaths are coming from immune system overreaction.

[CosmicCowboy]

Where did you get this one? SnakeBoy was making some similar noise earlier.

Cool your jets, cowboy. Just speculating of course, but with the "stay at home" order I suspect there is a lot more sex happening than normal. If you are the exception I can understand how it confused you.

[TeyshaBlue]

dad joke sensibilities.

Excellent band name.

[hater]

Ja-fucking-PAN. :tu

https://news.yahoo.com/japan-pay-companies-move-production-200603807.html

And USA-USA-USA-USA-USA (we're a joke):

https://news.yahoo.com/walmart-says-invest-425-million-155324623.html

And ^ the proverbial Cletus will continue to shop there as he yells at the Fox News about them sneaky chinks :lol

too late for that

China has the money and infrastructure to create their own companies and sell the same product for cheaper

the genie is out of the bag ma nig. impossible to put it back in

[midnightpulp]

too late for that

China has the money and infrastructure to create their own companies and sell the same product for cheaper

the genie is out of the bag ma nig. impossible to put it back in

China doesn't innovate, though. All the tech comes from Japanese, Korean, American, and European companies. They just IP steal and manufacture crap knockoffs. Non-Chinese companies refusing to sell the knockoffs and HEAVY, HEAVY tariffs on importing their knockoffs puts that cat back into the bag.

[Winehole23]

Are you lying to yourself about that too? The most dangerous point is when you start believing your own bullshit.Don't tell SnakeBoy, but Trump didn't stop travel from China.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trumps-ban-on-china-travel-his-claims-vs-reality-2020-03-27

[Blake]

President Trump's swift action on stopping travel combined with the effects of national shutdown will result in more lives created or saved than any other POTUS in history.

:lol "swift action"

[Blake]

Excellent band name.

I can imagine them playing a bunch of 70s/80s covers

[slick'81]

Great. So we get to go back on track for 2 million.

trump is a mad man. Not only is our testing shit,but were still no where near flattening this curve,and trump is ready to open the flood gates

[hater]

China doesn't innovate, though. All the tech comes from Japanese, Korean, American, and European companies. They just IP steal and manufacture crap knockoffs. Non-Chinese companies refusing to sell the knockoffs and HEAVY, HEAVY tariffs on importing their knockoffs puts that cat back into the bag.

they do lately. lead 5G, co leaders in AI, Huawei was about to take over the world thats why US tried to bury it

I e had a Huawei phone and it was pretty sweet. I broke the screen thats why I reused my iphone

also been to hong kong. they are advanced as shit their internet speeds at the hotel were :wow and they have train systems that make US train systems look like ancient toy models

Sure US is best innovator and we need to keep it that way but the days when china was only making cheap knockoffs is long gone

[hater]

possible catastrophic news:

https://twitter.com/UNMC_DrKhan/status/1247389949680369664?s=20

if this is true no amount of quarantining will help us. at the same time we would never be able to live normal lives again

:wow

[DarrinS]

RIP Bangladesh


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeZyRVk_3D4

[DarrinS]

possible catastrophic news:

https://twitter.com/UNMC_DrKhan/status/1247389949680369664?s=20

if this is true no amount of quarantining will help us. at the same time we would never be able to live normal lives again

:wow


Probably not fully recovered

[Reck]

possible catastrophic news:

https://twitter.com/UNMC_DrKhan/status/1247389949680369664?s=20

if this is true no amount of quarantining will help us. at the same time we would never be able to live normal lives again

:wow

All this means is that these people's immune system is shit.

Not that it matters since they can spread the virus but holy shit some people and their poor healthy way of life really is setting our progress back.

[Trill Clinton]

Been giving $100 a day to diff families in need at my church this week. God blessed me to be in a position to give so I try to do so when I can.

[apalisoc_9]

Been giving $100 a day to diff families in need at my church this week. God blessed me to be in a position to give so I try to do so when I can.

Keep safe man. Thank for helping

:tu

[SAScrub]

COVID made me realize this place still existed.

[Trill Clinton]

Keep safe man. Thank for helping

:tu

Yessir just trying to do my part! Take care of yourself brother.

[SnakeBoy]

Probably not fully recovered

Probably false negatives like the article says. Says 20-30% tests are false results. I hope ours are better than that.

[midnightpulp]

they do lately. lead 5G, co leaders in AI, Huawei was about to take over the world thats why US tried to bury it

I e had a Huawei phone and it was pretty sweet. I broke the screen thats why I reused my iphone

also been to hong kong. they are advanced as shit their internet speeds at the hotel were :wow and they have train systems that make US train systems look like ancient toy models

Sure US is best innovator and we need to keep it that way but the days when china was only making cheap knockoffs is long gone

They didn't innovate any of these technologies. They basically wait till the West and other Asian countries create a new technology or achieve some breakthrough, and then follow along. And yes, most their products are still complete garbage from a build quality/reliability standpoint.

[midnightpulp]

^an example. This is what Chinese companies do, per par.

https://www.ibtimes.com/huawei-unveils-apple-card-clone-2955626

[hater]

Been giving $100 a day to diff families in need at my church this week. God blessed me to be in a position to give so I try to do so when I can.

props nig

Im too busy taking care of employees and fam to help d needy.

wish I could volunteer as a delivery driver or old ppl helper. but oh well

[apalisoc_9]

^an example. This is what Chinese companies do, per par.

https://www.ibtimes.com/huawei-unveils-apple-card-clone-2955626

Gotta give them props for being the best copypcats. They used to be ver innovative but since they're behind it makes sense to copy and copy.

China probably ends up making the coronavirus vaccine. They got millions of innocent muslim ughiyers to test on without any consequences and repercussions.

[hater]

They didn't innovate any of these technologies. They basically wait till the West and other Asian countries create a new technology or achieve some breakthrough, and then follow along. And yes, most their products are still complete garbage from a build quality/reliability standpoint.

disagree about their products being complete garbage. yes that was d case up until 10 years ago

[apalisoc_9]

props nig

Im too busy taking care of employees and fam to help d needy.

wish I could volunteer as a delivery driver or old ppl helper. but oh well

Scrah, your real estate paid off?

How you handling all these non payment?

Keep safe man.

[Blake]

possible catastrophic news:

https://twitter.com/UNMC_DrKhan/status/1247389949680369664?s=20

if this is true no amount of quarantining will help us. at the same time we would never be able to live normal lives again

:wow

Until we get vaccines

[Blake]

COVID made me realize this place still existed.

:lol Scrub!

[FkLA]

RIP Bangladesh


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeZyRVk_3D4

Damn, they are fucked, tbh.

[SAScrub]

:lol Scrub!

What's up homie?!?!

[hater]

Scrah, your real estate paid off?

How you handling all these non payment?

Keep safe man.

:lmao paid off? wtf hell nah

Im paying tjo thankfully fully employed so far

[apalisoc_9]

:lmao paid off? wtf hell nah

Im paying tjo thankfully fully employed so far

Scrah I thought that putin money would give you millions in cold hard cash...

:lol

[hater]

RIP Bangladesh


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeZyRVk_3D4

:wow

:cry

we cannot complain tbqh

but only 2 million?

that doesnt make sense


how d fuck were we gonna lose a 1/4 million here in the richest country?

[hater]

Scrah I thought that putin money would give you millions in cold hard cash...

:lol

I spend like a mofo nig :lol

what do u think paid for my bunker?

[midnightpulp]

Exposing Covid-19 trutherism:

Seen this shit take from some here -


Claim: Anyone who dies is counted as a coronavirus death!

Truthers repeat that “dying with coronavirus is different from dying of coronavirus,” imagining that scores of unrelated cancer and automotive deaths are being chalked up to COVID-19 if they test positive for the disease.

Conspiracy theorists ignore this and construct a narrative based on alternative facts. Trump superfan Bill Mitchell, for example, insinuated that New York City uses overgenerous criteria for counting COVID-19 deaths, supposedly employing the same misguided method as Italy. To back this up, truthers often quote an Italian doctor, Walter Ricciardi:

The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus. On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity …

But Dr. Ricciardi was not saying that COVID-19 didn’t kill patients with comorbidities. The report itself, which studied a subset of just 355 victims, refers to evaluated “patients who died as a result of COVID-2019 infection.” And for good reason: the most common comorbidity, hypertension (76 percent), is not an acutely fatal condition. Over 100 million Americans have hypertension, and most of them live for decades. And the 88 percent figure Ricciardi mentioned isn’t accurate either. A more comprehensive study of 1591 Italian victims found that only 68 percent of the victims had comorbidities, including 65 percent of the victims under 50 years old.

https://arcdigital.media/debunking-coronavirus-trutherism-c290fc660a12

The bold is a point missed by morons like Bill Mitchell. Covid-19 exacerbates common co-morbidities like hypertension, COPD, etc that are livable for the most part into an acutely lethal situation.

[MannyIsGod]

Not sure if this has been posted or not, but its about temps and how much COVID spreads.

https://www.nap.edu/read/25771/chapter/1#7

TLDR, it has a small effect but its not going to stop the spread without social distancing.

[TimDunkem]

^Yeah. Looks like this isn't a seasonal thing.

[ElNono]

It requires a prescription. If doctors are prescribing it more because of what Trump said, they are suspect already. Patients may ask for it but that should not cause a run on it.

The problem is that the hoarding and difficulty of obtaining that drug is real and directly attributable to him, just have a cursory look at the timeline and even when studies on that drug became available.

And I don't even think he did that with the notion or understanding that he would cause such a problem, but that's the difference of being a crisis communicator vs an entertainer.

I do take more issue to the fact he continued to double down on it afterwards, even after his own medical experts directly contradicted him, and the shortages were known. That's flat out stupid and enters the dangerous territory, for what? his ego and pettiness?

[ElNono]

From the models, it looks like June 1st is probably a 'safe' spot for landing and reopening in full, with precautions like masks, etc.

[MannyIsGod]

From the models, it looks like June 1st is probably a 'safe' spot for landing and reopening in full, with precautions like masks, etc.

I hope we can actually buy them in that time. We're sewing some but gonna be hard for everyone to do that.

[phxspurfan]

COVID made me realize this place still existed.

Rofl

[ElNono]

I hope we can actually buy them in that time. We're sewing some but gonna be hard for everyone to do that.

I can still find some in stock online. I'm not talking the N95 kind, obviously, but whats recommended to lower serfs.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1248434277647134721?s=19

fucking savages

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1248442405273001984?s=19

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1248442405273001984?s=19
Why is voting by mail good enough for Trump but not anyone else?

[DMC]

The problem is that the hoarding and difficulty of obtaining that drug is real and directly attributable to him, just have a cursory look at the timeline and even when studies on that drug became available.

You repeated the assertion without addressing just how it's possible for someone without a prescription to even obtain the drug, much less hoard it. If anything, the drug is being hoarded by manufacturers and authorities. If physicians are prescribing it as a off-label script, that's on them. That's not on the panic stricken public who has no access to it.


And I don't even think he did that with the notion or understanding that he would cause such a problem, but that's the difference of being a crisis communicator vs an entertainer.

I do take more issue to the fact he continued to double down on it afterwards, even after his own medical experts directly contradicted him, and the shortages were known. That's flat out stupid and enters the dangerous territory, for what? his ego and pettiness?
I get all that, please address the point I made.

[DMC]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1248442405273001984?s=19

The right to vote isn't anywhere in the constitution, not for the general public anyhow.

[DMC]

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1248434277647134721?s=19

fucking savages

We eat rabbits, deer, cows and chickens. They are all animals.

[ElNono]

You repeated the assertion without addressing just how it's possible for someone without a prescription to even obtain the drug, much less hoard it. If anything, the drug is being hoarded by manufacturers and authorities. If physicians are prescribing it as a off-label script, that's on them. That's not on the panic stricken public who has no access to it.

The initial reports were that doctors indeed were hoarding them, to the point where some places simply had to tell pharmacists to stop filling off label prescriptions.

https://www.propublica.org/article/doctors-are-hoarding-unproven-coronavirus-medicine-by-writing-prescriptions-for-themselves-and-their-families
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/24/business/doctors-buying-coronavirus-drugs.html
https://www.wsj.com/articles/states-try-reducing-malaria-drug-hoarding-amid-unproven-coronavirus-benefit-11586095200

"That's on them" doesn't really invalidate the fact that you can point directly at the POTUS for sparking the hoarding, and then doubling down on it. Fortunately, there was actual State leadership here taking place so patients that actually needed the drug could get it.

[Winehole23]

Semantic dispute over what counts as a "mass grave" to follow

1248374630399672321

[ChumpDumper]

Semantic dispute over what counts as a "mass grave" to follow

1248374630399672321I don't know why they're talking about burying people in city parks. Plenty of room out there for temporary internment.

[slick'81]

Semantic dispute over what counts as a "mass grave" to follow

1248374630399672321


Literally dumped in a ditch

[Spurminator]

Cool your jets, cowboy. Just speculating of course, but with the "stay at home" order I suspect there is a lot more sex happening than normal. If you are the exception I can understand how it confused you.

The only people having more sex are people who cohabitate and don't have kids. Single people and parents definitely aren't having more sex.

The real pregnancy boom is going to happen when this is all over.

[ElNono]

Literally dumped in a ditch

The best ditch ever. A beautiful ditch. A ditch like it's never been seen before.

[DarrinS]

The only people having more sex are people who cohabitate and don't have kids. Single people and parents definitely aren't having more sex.

The real pregnancy boom is going to happen when this is all over.


Not true at my house.

[Winehole23]

Literally dumped in a ditchIt's an orderly process, I'm sure. I've seen no stories about people's remains being disrespected.

[Spurminator]

Not true at my house.

I mean obviously everyone on Spurstalk is having tons of sex, I'm just talking about the general public.

[DarrinS]

Semantic dispute over what counts as a "mass grave" to follow

1248374630399672321



Make sure you're posting real shit. Hater posted some supposed video from Equador, showing people burning bodies in the street. Fake news.

[DarrinS]

Isn't "Now This News" a source of choice for TheGreatTurd?

[ChumpDumper]

Make sure you're posting real shit. Hater posted some supposed video from Equador, showing people burning bodies in the street. Fake news.Hart Island is really a real thing. No telling if those are Covid-19 victims or just a routine burial. As the caption says, they've been burying the indigent and unknown out there for decades.

Isn't "Now This News" a source of choice for TheGreatTurd?
Not a loon site.

[DarrinS]

Hart Island is really a real thing. No telling if those are Covid-19 victims or just a routine burial.

I have no idea. I see no major media mentioning it tho.

[ChumpDumper]

I have no idea. I see no major media mentioning it tho.It's not news after 100 years; just recently more visible thanks to drones. The news is apparently burying COVID victims in city parks, which doesn't make much sense with Hart Island right there.

[DarrinS]

It's not news after 100 years; just recently more visible thanks to drones.

So, no evidence they're burying covid victims there.

[ChumpDumper]

So, no evidence they're burying covid victims there.See edit. It would be the best place to temporarily intern COVID victims IMO. I don't see what there is to debunk; there's a shit ton of bodies in the area.

[Chris]

The best ditch ever. A beautiful ditch. A ditch like it's never been seen before.

blue state

[DarrinS]

We already know that thousands of New Yorkers are dying. We have already seen the refrigerated trucks. Am I supposed to be freaked out by sketchy drone footage?

[ChumpDumper]

We already know that thousands of New Yorkers are dying. We have already seen the refrigerated trucks. Am I supposed to be freaked out by sketchy drone footage?I don't know what you think you're supposed to feel. I didn't see anyone telling you you should feel freaked out.

I thought it was pretty somber stuff but I already knew about Hart Island.

Personally I don't think you should feel defensive about it.

[DarrinS]

So, like hater, WH is just posting covid-19 death porn. Got it.

[ChumpDumper]

So, like hater, WH is just posting covid-19 death porn. Got it.Again, I'm really sorry this pandemic is bothering you. Gotta be terribly inconvenient. I thought the footage was interesting when I saw it elsewhere. It has been making the rounds but hadn't been linked to the virus. I'm happy to clear it up for people if they chose not to read about it as I have more than a passing interest in the city. As I said, I'd much rather have victims temporarily interred there instead of city parks. That would make for real death porn.

[baseline bum]

Semantic dispute over what counts as a "mass grave" to follow

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Still remember when people gave me shit a few weeks ago for saying we'd be burying people in mass graves just like Iran was after the satellite photos of their mass graves were published.

[slick'81]

Still remember when people gave me shit a few weeks ago for saying we'd be burying people in mass graves just like Iran was after the satellite photos of their mass graves were published.


Darrin debunked it base. Nothing to do with corona

[ElNono]

I have no idea. I see no major media mentioning it tho.

The Hill good enough?

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/492139-new-york-hires-laborers-to-bury-coronavirus-victims-on-hart-island

How about The Guardian?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/09/new-york-coronavirus-burials-hart-island

[ElNono]

blue state

The POTUS state up to not long ago, tbh

[DarrinS]

Again, I'm really sorry this pandemic is bothering you. Gotta be terribly inconvenient. I thought the footage was interesting when I saw it elsewhere. It has been making the rounds but hadn't been linked to the virus. I'm happy to clear it up for people if they chose not to read about it as I have more than a passing interest in the city. As I said, I'd much rather have victims temporarily interred there instead of city parks. That would make for real death porn.


I'm glad you're safe at Wendy's drive thru, while health professionals struggle with ppe shortage. Puss.

[ChumpDumper]

Darrin debunked it base. Nothing to do with coronaYet. At this point I hope it will be. Burying people in Corona Park or some shit would be a fucking nightmare.

[Reck]

It's an orderly process, I'm sure. I've seen no stories about people's remains being disrespected.

Apparently this site has been used for decades for people with no next of kin or people who have no known family and such.

I still say why not just cremate them?

[ChumpDumper]

I'm glad you're safe at Wendy's drive thru, while health professionals struggle with ppe shortage. Puss.You don't even know what KN95 means. Why do you insist we not discuss the actual shit that is happening Darrin? Do you just want happy hydroxychloroquine talk now? Heartwarming Trump stories? Let us know what to do to make this a safe space for you.

[ChumpDumper]

Apparently this site has been used for decades for people with no next of kin or people who have no known family and such.

I still say why not just cremate them?Might be more expensive.

[Blake]

I still say why not just cremate them?

I have the same question. Not just for resource issues but also for health reasons. I'd rather burn the covid than put it 6 feet under

[baseline bum]

Apparently this site has been used for decades for people with no next of kin or people who have no known family and such.

I still say why not just cremate them?

Yeah no shit. I don't see the point of burying the dead period. Waste of money and land for some decaying organic material. When I die just cremate me and throw me in a Folgers can like Big Lebowski.

[DarrinS]

You don't even know what KN95 means. Why do you insist we not discuss the actual shit that is happening Darrin? Do you just want happy hydroxychloroquine talk now? Heartwarming Trump stories? Let us know what to do to make this a safe space for you.

Here's what some people do while chump gets his drive thru ppe on Amazon.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbEj7M3aZIg

[Blake]

Here's what some people do while chump gets his drive thru ppe on Amazon.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbEj7M3aZIg

Is that you in the YouTube?

[midnightpulp]

Not sure if this has been posted or not, but its about temps and how much COVID spreads.

https://www.nap.edu/read/25771/chapter/1#7

TLDR, it has a small effect but its not going to stop the spread without social distancing.

I'm thinking UV light might be more of the "culprit" in this case rather than just raw temperature in slowing down transmission. I think Australia is a pretty interesting case study. They did get started late with their social distancing, and they just haven't seen a spike of any kind.

Also, I've read a summary of that study on other outlets, and I have an issue with this conclusion:


Given that countries in their summer climates, like Australia and Iran, are experiencing rapid virus spread...

During March, Iran averaged 62 degrees vs. Australia's 74 degrees. Australia also hasn't experienced any sort of "rapid spread." Melbourne didn't close down their beaches until March 28th, and despite their late action, spread just hasn't went exponential there. 52 deaths total. They do have the population density factor working in their favor, but Melbourne's population density is about the same as Los Angeles, and LA has 4x times as many deaths as all of Australia. Iran was running neck and neck with Italy early on, but Italy started to go exponential while Iran has been at the 130-160 death count for 3 weeks. And their new case rate is starting to bend down. But the caveat here is we have no idea how good the data is from Iran.

But as the study articulated, we really don't know how each of those "confounding factors" is individually affecting spread, so it's impossible right now to make any definitive conclusions. Maybe in Australia's case, sunlight or temperature has nothing to do with it, and it's about population density. Or maybe it's the reverse. Or a 65/35 split, etc, etc, etc.

[ChumpDumper]

Here's what some people do while chump gets his drive thru ppe on Amazon.Not Amazon.

Did you figure out what KN95 was yet?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbEj7M3aZIgWhat are you doing, Darrin?

Give me your list.

[DarrinS]

Is that you in the YouTube?

Watched a 16 minute video in 1 minute.

[ChumpDumper]

Watched a 16 minute video in 1 minute.I want to know what you're doing. I'll gladly read all the things you are currently doing for your hospital and community.

Let's see it.

[phxspurfan]

That mass grave on the island in NYC is real. They admitted to it.

[DarrinS]

That mass grave on the island in NYC is real. They admitted to it.


Just give me a link.

[DarrinS]

I want to know what you're doing. I'll gladly read all the things you are currently doing for your hospital and community.

Let's see it.


More than wearing KN95 mask and quivering at Wendy's drive thru. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

That mass grave on the island in NYC is real. They admitted to it.It's been a mass grave for a hundred years but yes, it is confirmed they are temporarily interring COVID victims there.

https://gothamist.com/news/mass-burials-hart-island-increase-fivefold-covid-19-death-toll-skyrockets

It was part of a plan for over a decade and really the logical choice. RIP.

[ChumpDumper]

More than wearing KN95 mask and quivering at Wendy's drive thru. :lolWhich is what?

What are you doing for your hospital and community?

Post the top ten.

[phxspurfan]

Just give me a link.

Google is your friend


https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/04/09/photos-reveal-new-york-city-in-the-grips-of-likely-coronavirus-peak/


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Workers wearing personal protective equipment bury bodies in a trench on Hart Island, Thursday, April 9, 2020, in the Bronx borough of New York. On Thursday, New York City’s medical examiner confirmed that the city has shortened the amount of time it will hold on to remains to 14 days from 30 days before they will be transferred for temporary internment at a City Cemetery. Earlier in the week, Mayor Bill DeBlasio said that officials have explored the possibility of temporary burials on Hart Island, a strip of land in Long Island Sound that has long served as the city’s potter’s field. (AP Photo/John Minchillo)

[DarrinS]

Which is what?

What are you doing for your hospital and community?

Post the top ten.



I have family in front lines of this. What are you doing, pussy?

[TimDunkem]

From the models, it looks like June 1st is probably a 'safe' spot for landing and reopening in full, with precautions like masks, etc.

The models assume all 50 states maintain the same level of social distancing into August. June would reset the clock.

[ChumpDumper]

I have family in front lines of this. What are you doing, pussy?I didn't ask what your family is doing, Darrin.

What are you doing for your hospital and community?

Surely you're very proud of everything you are doing now and want to set an example.

[DarrinS]

I didn't ask what your family is doing, Darrin.

What are you doing for your hospital and community?

Surely you're very proud of everything you are doing now and want to set an example.


I donated to #SafeChumpdumperFromDriveThruCovid

[Blake]

"Coronavirus case counts are rising exponentially in Africa. Since the continent saw its first case, in Egypt in mid-February, some 10,000 cases and 500 deaths have been confirmed.

Public health officials think this is just the beginning, and they worry that the situation in the coming weeks will get much worse. "COVID-19 has the potential not only to cause thousands of deaths, but to also unleash economic and social devastation," Dr. Matshidiso Moeti, WHO regional director for Africa, said in a statement Wednesday.

There are several reasons why health officials are especially concerned about the impact of COVID-19 in African countries...."

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/08/830209940/10-000-cases-and-500-deaths-in-africa-health-officials-say-its-just-the-beginnin

[midnightpulp]

SOME GOOD FUCKIN NEWS FINALLY:


"So far, no transmission of the virus in supermarkets, restaurants or hairdressers has been proven," explained Bonn virologist Hendrik Streeck on the ZDF Markus Lanz talk show.
Instead, the major outbreaks have been the result of close get-togethers over a longer period of time, he said.

That's demonstrated in, for example, outbreaks that have stemmed from après-ski parties in Ischgl, at football matches in Bergamo or at carnival celebrations in the municipality of Gangelt in the Heinsberg district of North Rhine-Westphalia.

Initial surveys and investigations in homes in Heinsberg have already provided some indications of how the virus works. Streeck, who is director of the Institute of Virology at Bonn University, said he was able to detect coronavirus by swabbing remote controls, washbasins, mobile phones, toilets or door handles.

However, it has not been possible to cultivate the virus in the laboratory on the basis of these swabs. "This means that we have detected the RNA (or ribonucleic acid, which carries the virus’s genetic information) of 'dead' viruses," Streeck said.
According to his previous research results, he believes "that a door handle can only be infectious if someone has actually coughed in their hand and then reached for it.

https://www.thelocal.de/20200402/how-german-scientists-hope-to-find-answers-on-coronavirus-in-countrys-worst-hit-spot

And some even better news. Germans conducted serotests within a town and found 14% of that population had antibodies (meaning prior infections that weren't counted as "official cases"), so this could illustrate how vastly we are undercounting recovered cases, which in turn will dramatically lower the mortality rate.


From the result of their blood survey, the German team estimated the death rate in the municipality at 0.37% overall, a figure significantly lower than what’s shown on a dashboard maintained by Johns Hopkins, where the death rate in Germany among reported cases is 2%.

https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/04/09/999015/blood-tests-show-15-of-people-are-now-immune-to-covid-19-in-one-town-in-germany/

Still about 4 times higher than the flu, but a hell of a lot better than 3.4 percent, 2 percent, 1 percent, etc.

[ChumpDumper]

I donated to #SafeChumpdumperFromDriveThruCovid:lmao you're not doing a fucking thing you self-righteous prick.

Not one fucking thing!

[Blake]

I have family in front lines of this. What are you doing, pussy?

Wait, so because your family is in the front lines that means you're doing your part?

[slick'81]

SOME GOOD FUCKIN NEWS FINALLY:



https://www.thelocal.de/20200402/how-german-scientists-hope-to-find-answers-on-coronavirus-in-countrys-worst-hit-spot

And some even better news. Germans conducted serotests within a town and found 14% of that population had antibodies (meaning prior infections that weren't counted as "official cases"), so this could illustrate how vastly we are undercounting recovered cases, which in turn will dramatically lower the mortality rate.



https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/04/09/999015/blood-tests-show-15-of-people-are-now-immune-to-covid-19-in-one-town-in-germany/

Still about 4 times higher than the flu, but a hell of a lot better than 3.4 percent, 2 percent, 1 percent, etc.


you are the light pulp

[ChumpDumper]

SOME GOOD FUCKIN NEWS FINALLY:



https://www.thelocal.de/20200402/how-german-scientists-hope-to-find-answers-on-coronavirus-in-countrys-worst-hit-spot

And some even better news. Germans conducted serotests within a town and found 14% of that population had antibodies (meaning prior infections that weren't counted as "official cases"), so this could illustrate how vastly we are undercounting recovered cases, which in turn will dramatically lower the mortality rate.



https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/04/09/999015/blood-tests-show-15-of-people-are-now-immune-to-covid-19-in-one-town-in-germany/

Still about 4 times higher than the flu, but a hell of a lot better than 3.4 percent, 2 percent, 1 percent, etc.Hope the numbers end up on the low side, but it's encouraging.

[DarrinS]

Wait, so because your family is in the front lines that means you're doing your part?

You don't know what I'm doing.

[ChumpDumper]

Wait, so because your family is in the front lines that means you're doing your part?Yes. That is exactly what he's saying.

[ChumpDumper]

You don't know what I'm doing.That's why I asked you what you are doing.

What are you doing to help your hospital and community?

[Blake]

You don't know what I'm doing.

You don't know what CD is doing

[Chris]

The POTUS state up to not long ago, tbh

blue state

[phxspurfan]

SOME GOOD FUCKIN NEWS FINALLY:



https://www.thelocal.de/20200402/how-german-scientists-hope-to-find-answers-on-coronavirus-in-countrys-worst-hit-spot

And some even better news. Germans conducted serotests within a town and found 14% of that population had antibodies (meaning prior infections that weren't counted as "official cases"), so this could illustrate how vastly we are undercounting recovered cases, which in turn will dramatically lower the mortality rate.



https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/04/09/999015/blood-tests-show-15-of-people-are-now-immune-to-covid-19-in-one-town-in-germany/

Still about 4 times higher than the flu, but a hell of a lot better than 3.4 percent, 2 percent, 1 percent, etc.


Good let’s all go get our hair cut then



Also will be interesting when they find out what genetic markers are the link between young people getting seriously ill. It has to be genetics if the person is young and healthy, no other explanation why some are perfectly fine and others very much not so

[slick'81]

You don't know what CD is doing

can we agree we dont know wtf any of us are doing?

[ChumpDumper]

You don't know what CD is doingI'm certainly not counting my family's actions on the front lines as my own. That would be pretty much the saddest thing anyone could try to pull.

[ChumpDumper]

can we agree we dont know wtf any of us are doing?Exactly.

[DarrinS]

SOME GOOD FUCKIN NEWS FINALLY:



https://www.thelocal.de/20200402/how-german-scientists-hope-to-find-answers-on-coronavirus-in-countrys-worst-hit-spot

And some even better news. Germans conducted serotests within a town and found 14% of that population had antibodies (meaning prior infections that weren't counted as "official cases"), so this could illustrate how vastly we are undercounting recovered cases, which in turn will dramatically lower the mortality rate.



https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/04/09/999015/blood-tests-show-15-of-people-are-now-immune-to-covid-19-in-one-town-in-germany/

Still about 4 times higher than the flu, but a hell of a lot better than 3.4 percent, 2 percent, 1 percent, etc.


:tu

Useful information

[Blake]

can we agree we dont know wtf any of us are doing?

Me and you agree on that but people here with hurt butts will always guess the worst about those that did the hurting

[Blake]

I'm certainly not counting my family's actions on the front lines as my own. That would be pretty much the saddest thing anyone could try to pull.

Reminds me of King Joffrey from GOT for some reason

[midnightpulp]

Good let’s all go get our hair cut then



Also will be interesting when they find out what genetic markers are the link between young people getting seriously ill. It has to be genetics if the person is young and healthy, no other explanation why some are perfectly fine and others very much not so

Yeah, the big challenge after this is for all of us to get psychologically comfortable in public spaces. I probably won't get it going shopping at Target or whatever, but I'd still feel nervous simply shopping at Target. And who knows when our precious sports will return to normal? Don't know long it will take us collectively to be comfortable sitting shoulder-to-shoulder in a stadium or arena. I do think this virus might be able to be snuffed out. One problem with the flu and why it's never been eradicated because it mutates quickly. From what I read on coronaviruses, they mutate very slowly. So if we can get a vax plus herd immunity, we might be able to prevent it from becoming endemic.

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah, the big challenge after this is for all of us to get psychologically comfortable in public spaces. I probably won't get it going shopping at Target or whatever, but I'd still feel nervous simply shopping at Target. And who knows when our precious sports will return to normal? Don't know long it will take us collectively to be comfortable sitting shoulder-to-shoulder in a stadium or arena. I do think this virus might be able to be snuffed out. One problem with the flu and why it's never been eradicated because it mutates quickly. From what I read on coronaviruses, they mutate very slowly. So if we can get a vax plus herd immunity, we might be able to prevent it from becoming endemic.Target and Walmart were a lot better than the HEB I went to, but it was just because of the number of people. Yeah, sporting events, concerts, shit just indoor bars-- gonna be inching into a cold pool for awhile.

[DarrinS]

Yeah, the big challenge after this is for all of us to get psychologically comfortable in public spaces. I probably won't get it going shopping at Target or whatever, but I'd still feel nervous simply shopping at Target. And who knows when our precious sports will return to normal? Don't know long it will take us collectively to be comfortable sitting shoulder-to-shoulder in a stadium or arena. I do think this virus might be able to be snuffed out. One problem with the flu and why it's never been eradicated because it mutates quickly. From what I read on coronaviruses, they mutate very slowly. So if we can get a vax plus herd immunity, we might be able to prevent it from becoming endemic.


For all the talk of mutation, I've heard this one is somewhat stable.

If there is even one effective treatment, we can resume our lives.

Thanks for your posts.

[ElNono]

The models assume all 50 states maintain the same level of social distancing into August. June would reset the clock.

There will be temptation to resume mid-May... I think it could backfire. But we'll see.

[DarrinS]

If you're sweating a drive thru, a sporting event is probably along way off.

[ChumpDumper]

If you're sweating a drive thru, a sporting event is probably along way off.Still haven't seen your list there, Joffrey.

What are you doing for your hospital and community?

Inspire us!

Come on, you've had enough time to make something up.

[midnightpulp]

There will be temptation to resume mid-May... I think it could backfire. But we'll see.

I think parks should be reopened. Can easily socially distance there. Bars, clubs, theaters, etc will be a no go for awhile. I think your AMC theaters and what not should start buying up empty lots where they can find them and turn them into Drive-ins. I can't see anyone being comfortable for like 2 or 3 years going to the movies, so if they want to continue revenue from ticket sales, drive ins might be the only option. There's always the streaming idea, but watching some blockbuster at home is pretty lame. I think people would enjoy Marvel movie number 600 on a 200 foot drive in screen in the comfort of their car. Getting good sound of this will be a challenge (those old drive-in speakers were garbage). Only solution I can think of is to stream the audio to the car's sound system over a dedicated frequency or patrons can bring their Bluetooth speaker of choice where the audio is streamed to (Bluetooth range suck, but you can install repeaters, I suppose).

[ChumpDumper]

I think parks should be reopened. Can easily socially distance there. Bars, clubs, theaters, etc will be a no go for awhile. I think your AMC theaters and what not should start buying up empty lots where they can find them and turn them into Drive-ins. I can't see anyone being comfortable for like 2 or 3 years going to the movies, so if they want to continue revenue from ticket sales, drive ins might be the only option. There's always the streaming idea, but watching some blockbuster at home is pretty lame. I think people would enjoy Marvel movie number 600 on a 200 foot drive in screen in the comfort of their car. Getting good sound of this will be a challenge (those old drive-in speakers were garbage). Only solution I can think of is to stream the audio to the car's sound system over a dedicated frequency or patrons can bring their Bluetooth speaker of choice where the audio is streamed to (Bluetooth range suck, but you can install repeaters, I suppose).There are some new age drive-ins like Blue Starlite that do that. I used an old time window speaker when I went but most people listen over the car radio via low power transmitter. I imagine if the studies like the one you posted hold up, theaters might try some kind of spacing scheme to keep the doors open.

[Blake]

I think parks should be reopened. Can easily socially distance there. Bars, clubs, theaters, etc will be a no go for awhile. I think your AMC theaters and what not should start buying up empty lots where they can find them and turn them into Drive-ins. I can't see anyone being comfortable for like 2 or 3 years going to the movies, so if they want to continue revenue from ticket sales, drive ins might be the only option. There's always the streaming idea, but watching some blockbuster at home is pretty lame. I think people would enjoy Marvel movie number 600 on a 200 foot drive in screen in the comfort of their car. Getting good sound of this will be a challenge (those old drive-in speakers were garbage). Only solution I can think of is to stream the audio to the car's sound system over a dedicated frequency or patrons can bring their Bluetooth speaker of choice where the audio is streamed to (Bluetooth range suck, but you can install repeaters, I suppose).

Yeah I've thought of drive in movies making a comeback too. But we're gonna have to have signs that this is going to be a thing for a very long time.

I would think also that sports might somehow come back sooner than later for TV minus the fans in the stands

[ElNono]

I think parks should be reopened. Can easily socially distance there. Bars, clubs, theaters, etc will be a no go for awhile. I think your AMC theaters and what not should start buying up empty lots where they can find them and turn them into Drive-ins. I can't see anyone being comfortable for like 2 or 3 years going to the movies, so if they want to continue revenue from ticket sales, drive ins might be the only option. There's always the streaming idea, but watching some blockbuster at home is pretty lame. I think people would enjoy Marvel movie number 600 on a 200 foot drive in screen in the comfort of their car. Getting good sound of this will be a challenge (those old drive-in speakers were garbage). Only solution I can think of is to stream the audio to the car's sound system over a dedicated frequency or patrons can bring their Bluetooth speaker of choice where the audio is streamed to (Bluetooth range suck, but you can install repeaters, I suppose).

I'm actually on the other side of this... I suspect once the doors open again, people will go right back. I actually expect life to resume fairly normally 2-3 months after relaxing the lockdowns (with few exceptions like masks), unless we get another spike. There will be economic incentives to this, like lower prices, etc.
If a relatively sound treatment comes around, just forget about it. It's free for all again.

[TimDunkem]

Yeah I've thought of drive in movies making a comeback too. But we're gonna have to have signs that this is going to be a thing for a very long time.

I would think also that sports might somehow come back sooner than later for TV minus the fans in the stands

Can't imagine how. All it would take is one false negative on a huge NFL team, a follow up test is done, and - oops - one or two guys actually had the virus. Time to shut it down.

[phxspurfan]

If you're sweating a drive thru, a sporting event is probably along way off.

If by some miracle this president delivers reliable, scalable testing and you can confirm you have antibodies, why not hit up the ATT and cheer on the Bryn Forbes led Spurs

[slick'81]

If by some miracle this president delivers reliable, scalable testing and you can confirm you have antibodies, why not hit up the ATT and cheer on the Bryn Forbes led Spurs


Bryn forbes is our hero,tbh

[slick'81]

For all the talk of mutation, I've heard this one is somewhat stable.

If there is even one effective treatment, we can resume our lives.

Thanks for your posts.

not if d ,but when . Just pray we can stay alive,and ur boy trump comes through

[Blake]

Can't imagine how. All it would take is one false negative on a huge NFL team, a follow up test is done, and - oops - one or two guys actually had the virus. Time to shut it down.

Edit: some sports will make a comeback sooner than later.

I'm not sure why singles tennis, bowling or baseball couldn't be a thing sooner than later for TV only. Maybe make a no slide/no leadoff rule in baseball. Dunno

[TimDunkem]

Edit: some sports will make a comeback sooner than later.

I'm not sure why singles tennis or baseball couldn't be a thing sooner than later. Maybe make a no slide rule in baseball.

I can see tennis and golf for sure.

[TimDunkem]

If by some miracle this president delivers reliable, scalable testing and you can confirm you have antibodies, why not hit up the ATT and cheer on the Bryn Forbes led Spurs

I'd rather catch Covid than watch Bryn Forbes again.

[Blake]

I'd rather catch Covid than watch Bryn Forbes again.

:lol

[RandomGuy]

Yet not one of them has given up their national health care system.

You know they spend less than half of what we do per capita on health care and have better outcomes, right?


You know Joe Biden's corpse and its DNC puppeteers will never give you national health care, right?

They are infinitely more likely than the Trump Death Cult Party to do so.

There are still children in cages. Getting Covid-19. I will vote against that. Happily.

Sorry man, whatever bullshit you want to make up about Democrats, I will lovingly, happily vote for them.

The Republican party killed our troops in Iraq, by making excuses for Bush's bungling.

The Republican party is now killing our fellow citizens by being slow to act against a pandemic, and in many cases, actively denying the danger.

I will never, ever, vote for a Republican again. They simply cannot be trusted to govern effectively.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

:lmao americans and their infatuation with themselves

yes Putins main hobby is to sow discord in the US :lol

forget ruling his country or enjoying his life hobbies. he is like Dr Evil and just wants to destroy our democracy :cry


:lmao

You deserve to have your testicles removed to prevent breeding if you're genuinely dumb enough to not understand his focus on information warfare

[boutons_deux]

They are infinitely more likely than the Trump Death Cult Party to do so.



nope, Biden and Pelosi and all the Dem establishment are both against Medicare for All, because they are paid by BigInsurance. Biden also told his BigDonor there would be no tax increase

[CosmicCowboy]

I'm actually on the other side of this... I suspect once the doors open again, people will go right back. I actually expect life to resume fairly normally 2-3 months after relaxing the lockdowns (with few exceptions like masks), unless we get another spike. There will be economic incentives to this, like lower prices, etc.
If a relatively sound treatment comes around, just forget about it. It's free for all again.

Without a vaccine, a spike is guaranteed after the lockdown is relaxed. The masks the general public are wearing don't do shit except remind us not to touch our face.

[hater]

You deserve to have your testicles removed to prevent breeding if you're genuinely dumb enough to not understand his focus on information warfare

:lmao every country practices information warfare. china, france, us, uk, israel, turkey, you name it

doesnt mean that Putins main hobby

:cry he wants to destroy our democracy :cry

thats actually information warfare talking point from american intelligence. wake up lemming

[monosylab1k]

I have family in front lines of this. What are you doing, pussy?


I didn't ask what your family is doing, Darrin.

What are you doing for your hospital and community?

Surely you're very proud of everything you are doing now and want to set an example.


Wait, so because your family is in the front lines that means you're doing your part?


You don't know what I'm doing.


I'm certainly not counting my family's actions on the front lines as my own. That would be pretty much the saddest thing anyone could try to pull.


Reminds me of King Joffrey from GOT for some reason

:lmao imagine putting out that first quote and thinking “yeah, that'll shut them up!” :lmao holy crap Darrin is such a stupid asshole.

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1248367605422964743

[monosylab1k]

NYT good now :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1248367605422964743Damn, so Trump's travel ban didn't help at all. Good article.

[hater]

Damn, so Trump's travel ban didn't help at all. Good article.

:lmao

half a million infections and still boasting about the china travel ban :lmao

[Spurs Homer]

My hair clippers came in finally...

no more "wild man" hair!

Back to boot camp days!

[FkLA]

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1248434277647134721?s=19

fucking savages

To slaughter animals that show no intelligence and affection is one thing, but a fucking dog? Sick motherfuckers. I'd love to curbstomp any asian that partakes in that.

[Spurs Homer]

To slaughter animals that show no intelligence and affection is one thing, but a fucking dog? Sick motherfuckers. I'd love to curbstomp any asian that partakes in that.

thats your murican culture talking...

other parts of the world see the animals we eat - and they want to puke -

no difference - just cultural conditioning.

If you (we) REALLY wanted to have a moral stance - we would be against ANY animal getting killed to serve our needs.

[Thread]

:lmao

half a million infections and still boasting about the china travel ban :lmao

He has every right, hater.

[ChumpDumper]

He has every right, hater.Except it didn't work.

Whoopsie!

[FkLA]

thats your murican culture talking...

other parts of the world see the animals we eat - and they want to puke -

no difference - just cultural conditioning.

If you (we) REALLY wanted to have a moral stance - we would be against ANY animal getting killed to serve our needs.

No. Universally there is a huge difference between cattle/poultry/seafood and a dog.

No civilized country, other than some asian ones, look at man's best friend as food, bro.

[Thread]

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1248367605422964743

Yes, TSA cast me down with the sodomites some time ago, but, he remains a soldier in the finest traditions.

T
S
A

[ChumpDumper]

Yes, TSA cast me down with the sodomites some time ago, but, he remains a soldier in the finest traditions.

T
S
AMan, you didn't read the article either. Completely shits on Trump and muh China travel ban.

[Thread]

Except it didn't work.

Whoopsie!

It's something though, has kept the dam from bursting in reality and allegorically.

It's what we have.

& then he brings up the European ban. I always look away from the TV screen then, Dumps.:dramaquee Lordy. & then sometimes he'll toss in Ireland, sometimes not.

[Spurs Homer]

No. Universally there is a huge difference between cattle/poultry/seafood and a dog.

No civilized country, other than some asian ones, look at man's best friend as food, bro.

no difference -

i would never fathom - it - (dogs) - but that is my american conditioning...

but cows are sacred to millions - and they are just as offended and disgusted that we eat them -

so if you grew up there - you would think americans are disgusting savages

no fucking difference - once you are honest to see both sides

[Thread]

Man, you didn't read the article either. Completely shits on Trump and muh China travel ban.

I use what's good for us, yes:::


[[[The first confirmed coronavirus case in New York was a woman who flew into JFK in February and tested positive March 1. The next day, Gov. Cuomo and Mayor Bill de Blasio promised investigators would track down every person on her flight. No one ever did.]]]

[ChumpDumper]

It's something though, has kept the dam from bursting in reality and allegorically.

It's what we have.

& then he brings up the European ban. I always look away from the TV screen then, Dumps.:dramaquee Lordy. & then sometimes he'll toss in Ireland, sometimes not.There is no dam.

There never was a dam.

[ChumpDumper]

I use what's good for us, yes:::


[[[The first confirmed coronavirus case in New York was a woman who flew into JFK in February and tested positive March 1. The next day, Gov. Cuomo and Mayor Bill de Blasio promised investigators would track down every person on her flight. No one ever did.]]]You still haven't read the article. You don't care about the truth.

[spurraider21]

Isn't "Now This News" a source of choice for TheGreatTurd?
Know More News

[ChumpDumper]

Whoopsie!

Independent reporting has corroborated what [Silicon Valley tech executive Eric] Ries and other volunteers saw for themselves: “a fragmented procurement system now descending into chaos,” as the Associated Press put it. The news agency found that not a single shipment of medical-grade N95 masks arrived at U.S. ports during the month of March. The federal government was not only disorganized; it was absent. Federal agencies waited until mid-March to begin placing bulk orders for the urgently needed supplies, the A.P. found. The first large U.S. government order to the big U.S. producer 3M, for a hundred and seventy-three million dollars’ worth of N95 masks, was not placed until March 21st—the same day that Ries got his first phone call about the Kushner effort. The order, according to the A.P., did not even require the supplies to be delivered until the end of April, far too late to help with the thousands of cases already overwhelming hospitals.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-trumps-washington/the-coronavirus-and-how-the-united-states-ended-up-with-nurses-wearing-garbage-bags

[CosmicCowboy]

Well crap. Sounds like my sister may have that shit and she has been visiting and getting groceries etc. for my elderly mother. No cough, but high fever, body, ache, headache...tested negative for flu and won't have covid results for a week.

[DMC]

The initial reports were that doctors indeed were hoarding them, to the point where some places simply had to tell pharmacists to stop filling off label prescriptions.

https://www.propublica.org/article/doctors-are-hoarding-unproven-coronavirus-medicine-by-writing-prescriptions-for-themselves-and-their-families
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/24/business/doctors-buying-coronavirus-drugs.html
https://www.wsj.com/articles/states-try-reducing-malaria-drug-hoarding-amid-unproven-coronavirus-benefit-11586095200

"That's on them" doesn't really invalidate the fact that you can point directly at the POTUS for sparking the hoarding, and then doubling down on it. Fortunately, there was actual State leadership here taking place so patients that actually needed the drug could get it.
If doctors are writing prescriptions to people for this medication perhaps they think it's effective? I don't think doctors are writing themselves prescriptions and just hoarding the medication as that would probably be illegal.

Do you really believe primary care physicians are going to prescribe an off-label medication because of what the president said? Or do you think that primary care physicians are gullible and bend to the will of the patient?

Then it raises a question that if primary care physicians are doing that with a medication that's unproven, are they doing it with other medication just because the patient saw it on television and isn't that what these drugmakers want? Otherwise why would they advertise it to common people?

So the real issue then should be with the primary care physicians or physicians in general who write prescriptions because the patient says they want it instead of because the doctor thinks they need it.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

:lmao every country practices information warfare. china, france, us, uk, israel, turkey, you name it

doesnt mean that Putins main hobby

:cry he wants to destroy our democracy :cry

thats actually information warfare talking point from american intelligence. wake up lemming

I didn't say otherwise...just implying that Russia is particularly good at it

[picnroll]

Apple and Google launch a joint contact-tracing system for iOS and Android
A huge step forward in the fight against COVID-19

https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/10/21216484/google-apple-coronavirus-contract-tracing-bluetooth-location-tracking-data-app

[baseline bum]

no difference -

i would never fathom - it - (dogs) - but that is my american conditioning...

but cows are sacred to millions - and they are just as offended and disgusted that we eat them -

so if you grew up there - you would think americans are disgusting savages

no fucking difference - once you are honest to see both sides

Nonsense, dogs have been bred for thousands of years to be companions to humans and have developed an understanding of us that no other species other than humans has.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK7wp2xWOo4

The full episode

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2adqfh

Eating a dog is barbaric.

[baseline bum]

Well crap. Sounds like my sister may have that shit and she has been visiting and getting groceries etc. for my elderly mother. No cough, but high fever, body, ache, headache...tested negative for flu and won't have covid results for a week.

Damn man, hope nothing but the best for your mother and sister. Fucking scary when you wonder if every little fever is COVID and if so whether enough has already reproduced asymptotically in the lungs to put you in danger.

[ChumpDumper]

Well crap. Sounds like my sister may have that shit and she has been visiting and getting groceries etc. for my elderly mother. No cough, but high fever, body, ache, headache...tested negative for flu and won't have covid results for a week.That sucks. I hope it's something less serious.

[DMC]

To slaughter animals that show no intelligence and affection is one thing, but a fucking dog? Sick motherfuckers. I'd love to curbstomp any asian that partakes in that.

Pigs show affection and intelligence but we eat them anyhow.

[spurraider21]

Well crap. Sounds like my sister may have that shit and she has been visiting and getting groceries etc. for my elderly mother. No cough, but high fever, body, ache, headache...tested negative for flu and won't have covid results for a week.
sense of smell?

[DMC]

Nonsense, dogs have been bred for thousands of years to be companions to humans and have developed an understanding of us that no other species other than humans has.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK7wp2xWOo4

The full episode

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2adqfh

Eating a dog is barbaric.

I would disagree with you on the understanding us part. If they did they would hate our fucking guts. I mean how many other people do you like? Now look at dogs, they like everybody unless they're trained otherwise.

[picnroll]

Man, you didn't read the article either. Completely shits on Trump and muh China travel ban.

Only reason Trump put the ban on China was because it fit his anti- China tariff narrative. Buffoon was talking about closing the border with Mexico because of Coronavirus at the same time. :lol
It had nothing to do with containing the virus. Idiot was still clueless about how a extremely highly infectious viral infection works. He’s riding that China quarantine for everything he can get out of it.

[ChumpDumper]

Only reason Trump put the ban on China was because it fit his anti- China tariff narrative. Buffoon was talking about closing the border with Mexico because of Coronavirus at the same time. :lol
It had nothing to do with containing the virus. Idiot was still clueless about how a extremely highly infectious viral infection works. He’s riding that China quarantine for everything he can get out of it.Apparently patient Zero for NYC came from Iran.

Whoopsie!

[SpursforSix]

Pigs show affection and intelligence but we eat them anyhow.

ZA_Tl1kvlQU

[picnroll]

I would disagree with you on the understanding us part. If they did they would hate our fucking guts. I mean how many other people do you like? Now look at dogs, they like everybody unless they're trained otherwise.

Probably why Trump doesn’t have a dog.

[Spurs Homer]

Nonsense, dogs have been bred for thousands of years to be companions to humans and have developed an understanding of us that no other species other than humans has.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK7wp2xWOo4

The full episode

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2adqfh

Eating a dog is barbaric.

of course- dogs are like family to us


hindus consider cows as part of their family


same fucking thing - just different conditioning


they are repulsed at us- we are repulsed at them-

[SpursforSix]

I would disagree with you on the understanding us part. If they did they would hate our fucking guts. I mean how many other people do you like? Now look at dogs, they like everybody unless they're trained otherwise.

I don't know about this. And I'm basing this off the very limited sample size of the dogs I've had. For the most part, they've been pretty distant to people that I've deemed to be assholes. Even when that asshole makes an effort to be nice to the dog.
That being said, I'm sure if that asshole's first meeting was to give the dog a steak, it might be different. Anyway, I think they can often sense when someone is being genuine or not. Or maybe they sense that I might not like that person. No idea. But I think they're more perceptive than many people give them credit for. And probably not as perceptive as many others do give them credit for.

[CosmicCowboy]

sense of smell?

She said nothing tasted good last night but attributed it to the fever. Says it's better today.

[hater]

of course- dogs are like family to us


hindus consider cows as part of their family


same fucking thing - just different conditioning


they are repulsed at us- we are repulsed at them-

bingo :tu

[hater]

Sweden seems to be purposefully killing off their elders and poor

they have 89 deaths per million inhabitants good for 10th worst in the world and thats more deaths per 1m than allof its sister nordic countries put together

I guess the Sweden experiment has failed?

the take it on the chin herd immunity was a hoax?

how is their economy going? their quality of life? we will keep posted in next few weeks

but its a fact that the Swedish strategy was no slam dunk

all those retarded morons who boast swedens strategy can go fuck themselves now :lol

[FkLA]

of course- dogs are like family to us


hindus consider cows as part of their family


same fucking thing - just different conditioning


they are repulsed at us- we are repulsed at them-

You're comparing religion to science though.

I think the pig comparison makes more sense. Especially if they do show affection and intelligence. Still not an apples to apples comparison, since pigs haven't been specifically bred to be companions for thousands of years, but still it's a little harder to digest.

[baseline bum]

of course- dogs are like family to us


hindus consider cows as part of their family


same fucking thing - just different conditioning


they are repulsed at us- we are repulsed at them-

It's not the same fucking thing, cows have never shown the kind of emotion towards humans that dogs have.

[picnroll]

bingo :tu

Yeah but we just like dogs, Hindus think the cow is the mother of their gods. That’s some TGY level weird shit.

[SpursforSix]

It's not the same fucking thing, cows have never shown the kind of emotion towards humans that dogs have.

If you've ever had sex with a cow, you'd know this is false. Dogs are all like...what the fuck...that's all you got? You're not even going down on me?
But cows be like...mooooooo...moooooo. They're the most grateful lovers imo.

[DMC]

I don't know about this. And I'm basing this off the very limited sample size of the dogs I've had. For the most part, they've been pretty distant to people that I've deemed to be assholes. Even when that asshole makes an effort to be nice to the dog.
That being said, I'm sure if that asshole's first meeting was to give the dog a steak, it might be different. Anyway, I think they can often sense when someone is being genuine or not. Or maybe they sense that I might not like that person. No idea. But I think they're more perceptive than many people give them credit for. And probably not as perceptive as many others do give them credit for.

"Unless trained to be otherwise"

[DMC]

If you've ever had sex with a cow, you'd know this is false. Dogs are all like...what the fuck...that's all you got? You're not even going down on me?
But cows be like...mooooooo...moooooo. They're the most grateful lovers imo.

Moo moo move over

[DMC]

This reminds me of what Patrice O'Neal said, guys can have an all-day conversation about the most mundane shit and women will just say.... no that's fucking stupid. Women like to ruin it for guys.

[DMC]

You're comparing religion to science though.

I think the pig comparison makes more sense. Especially if they do show affection and intelligence. Still not an apples to apples comparison, since pigs haven't been specifically bred to be companions for thousands of years, but still it's a little harder to digest.
I see what you did there

[ChumpDumper]

Sweden seems to be purposefully killing off their elders and poor

they have 89 deaths per million inhabitants good for 10th worst in the world and thats more deaths per 1m than allof its sister nordic countries put together

I guess the Sweden experiment has failed?

the take it on the chin herd immunity was a hoax?

how is their economy going? their quality of life? we will keep posted in next few weeks

but its a fact that the Swedish strategy was no slam dunk

all those retarded morons who boast swedens strategy can go fuck themselves now :lolI don't know the particulars. I'd want to know what kind of numbers they were expecting and how open they were about the strategy to the citizens.

[hater]

Yeah but we just like dogs, Hindus think the cow is the mother of their gods. That’s some TGY level weird shit.

we believe in an invisible god that lives in the sky

not that mich different tbqh

[ChumpDumper]

Looks like Sweden did fuck up badly by not limiting visits to the elderly they told to stay home.

[Blake]

Probably why Trump doesn’t have a dog.

Aw, but Pence is a good boy

[picnroll]

we believe in an invisible god that lives in the sky

not that mich different tbqh
Not talking about religion just what they have against hamburgers.

[hater]

Officially #1 killer in the US. yes more than heart disease and cancer

contrats Corona on the hard work

[ChumpDumper]

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[hater]

Not talking about religion just what they have against hamburgers.

but it is their religion

[FkLA]

When did Dick Jefferson become the US Surgeon General, tbh?

[Spurs Homer]

It's not the same fucking thing, cows have never shown the kind of emotion towards humans that dogs have.

irrelevant

your reasons are legit- they are YOUR reasons


their reasons are legit - to THEM

[boutons_deux]

Besides Trash, BigCorp, Capitalists want people start death marching in 1 May ...

Florida Gov Ron DeSantis Skips Science, Math, Health, Logic And Ethics, Wants To Send Kids Back To Class

"This particular pandemic is one where, I don't think nationwide there's been a single fatality under 25. For whatever reason it just doesn't seem to threaten, you know, kids."
YOU KNOW.

"And we lose in Florida between five and 10 kids a year for the flu.

This one, for whatever reason, much more dangerous if you're 65 and plus than the flu, no doubt about that, if you're younger it just hasn't had an impact.

So that should factor into how we're viewing this."

six children under 20 have died in New York,

and a six-week-old infant in Connecticut died with the disease.

the lunatic asshole who refused to close the beaches (https://www.wonkette.com/ron-desantis-will-close-floridas-beaches-by-october-at-the-latest) because it was better to let a bunch of drunk spring break kids spread coronavirus all over America than to forego hotel and bar revenue.

That's why his state is identifying 1,000 new cases a day,

More importantly, children who walk around without symptoms

can transmit disease to their parents and grandparents.

https://www.wonkette.com/florida-governor-skips-science-will-send-kids-back-to-class (https://www.wonkette.com/florida-governor-skips-science-will-send-kids-back-to-class)

[hater]

amazing report on masks.

surgical masks and cloths are worthless if u want to protect the wearer

but you can make a mask out of high quality vaccum cleaner bag

https://www.unibw.de/lrt7/report_mask-investigation_unibw_lrt7_06_04_2020.pdf

so if u dont have a respirator this is the next best thing

anyone recommend good quality bags that can be purchased online?

[boutons_deux]

Trash's, Miller's, Repugs' and All Y'all's racism and xenophobia is killing Americans

Immigrant Doctors Want To Help Fight Coronavirus Outbreak, But Can't

they can't because of limits on their work visas.

It's just one way the pandemic is affecting immigrant communities.

https://www.npr.org/2020/03/26/822107719/pandemic-disrupting-u-s-immigration-process-at-every-level (https://www.npr.org/2020/03/26/822107719/pandemic-disrupting-u-s-immigration-process-at-every-level)

[picnroll]

1248476866438021120

States will do a far better job. Trash’s cofenderacy of idiots is incapable of tieing their shoes.

[baseline bum]

irrelevant

your reasons are legit- they are YOUR reasons


their reasons are legit - to THEM

You have so much in common with Trumptards :lol

[leemajors]

of course- dogs are like family to us


hindus consider cows as part of their family


same fucking thing - just different conditioning


they are repulsed at us- we are repulsed at them-

there are reasons for that, such as little to no firewood and cow dung allows them to prepare food as fuel.

[baseline bum]

States will do a far better job. Trash’s cofenderacy of idiots is incapable of tieing their shoes.

Not my state, Abbott will do whatever the fuck Trump says. I fear Texas is going to open May 1st at Trump's suggestion and all our cities will become new hotspots.

[Blake]

amazing report on masks.

surgical masks and cloths are worthless if u want to protect the wearer

but you can make a mask out of high quality vaccum cleaner bag

https://www.unibw.de/lrt7/report_mask-investigation_unibw_lrt7_06_04_2020.pdf

so if u dont have a respirator this is the next best thing

anyone recommend good quality bags that can be purchased online?

Yeah we should all be wearing masks not as a protective shield against blocking it but as a shield against transmitting it

[Winehole23]

1248476866438021120Not to worry, DMC says testing will be ramped up very soon.

[Splits]

Trump talking about antibiotics falling behind as a reason for lack of covid treatment. smfgdh

[boutons_deux]

The coronavirus was spreading.

The parties went on.

Now comes the pain.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/the-coronavirus-was-spreading-the-parties-went-on-now-comes-the-pain/2020/04/09/39bdbe1e-7908-11ea-a130-df573469f094_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/the-coronavirus-was-spreading-the-parties-went-on-now-comes-the-pain/2020/04/09/39bdbe1e-7908-11ea-a130-df573469f094_story.html)

Everybody back to work and school 1 May, the pandemic is harmless, it's over

[ElNono]

Without a vaccine, a spike is guaranteed after the lockdown is relaxed. The masks the general public are wearing don't do shit except remind us not to touch our face.

I think the vaccine is the long term goal. A working treatment would at least make heard-immunity much more feasible without overwhelming the health system.

[Winehole23]

Trump talking about antibiotics falling behind as a reason for lack of covid treatment. smfgdhDoesn't know what viruses or antibiotics are, gives daily briefings on a public health emergency.

[picnroll]

amazing report on masks.

surgical masks and cloths are worthless if u want to protect the wearer

but you can make a mask out of high quality vaccum cleaner bag

https://www.unibw.de/lrt7/report_mask-investigation_unibw_lrt7_06_04_2020.pdf

so if u dont have a respirator this is the next best thing

anyone recommend good quality bags that can be purchased online?
Great except you can’t breathe through vacuum cleaner bags. Other than that they should work fine.

[hater]

Great except you can’t breathe through vacuum cleaner bags. Other than that they should work fine.

im pretty sure you can otherwise the writers of the report woulda used plastic tbqh

[Ghazi]

we believe in an invisible god that lives in the sky

not that mich different tbqh

Islam is the truth, but most men do not know ;)

[ElNono]

If doctors are writing prescriptions to people for this medication perhaps they think it's effective? I don't think doctors are writing themselves prescriptions and just hoarding the medication as that would probably be illegal.

They actually can and is legal as long as it's not a controlled substance. And apparently they did, not just for themselves but for their family (and let's be honest here, potential profit).

They couldn't possibly know it was effective, there were barely any studies that even discussed the drug as a treatment for covid at the time. Heck, it's effectiveness is still being investigated right now.


Do you really believe primary care physicians are going to prescribe an off-label medication because of what the president said? Or do you think that primary care physicians are gullible and bend to the will of the patient?

Then it raises a question that if primary care physicians are doing that with a medication that's unproven, are they doing it with other medication just because the patient saw it on television and isn't that what these drugmakers want? Otherwise why would they advertise it to common people?

So the real issue then should be with the primary care physicians or physicians in general who write prescriptions because the patient says they want it instead of because the doctor thinks they need it.

I do think people sometimes think the President is privy to information that the public isn't yet. Unfortunately, that can also deviate into irresponsible messaging that causes these kind of problems if the messenger is an idiot.

And to your latter point, yes, I agree that's also definitely an issue all too common in the US. I don't even think every doctor was a bad actor, but there's probably some of that going on: patients calling in asking doc if they can prescribe them that thing.

This whole thing got so politicized, I'm sure more than one found itself in a bind. It's just a shitty situation all around that could've easily been avoided.

[ElNono]

Well crap. Sounds like my sister may have that shit and she has been visiting and getting groceries etc. for my elderly mother. No cough, but high fever, body, ache, headache...tested negative for flu and won't have covid results for a week.

hoping it's a nothingburger, tbh

[picnroll]

Trump talking about antibiotics falling behind as a reason for lack of covid treatment. smfgdh

Trump is just really good at this stuff. :rollin :rollin :rollin

[picnroll]

Not my state, Abbott will do whatever the fuck Trump says. I fear Texas is going to open May 1st at Trump's suggestion and all our cities will become new hotspots.
Sorry, you’re fucked. But at least you already had it. Offer for a couple of pints still stands. :eyebrows

[boutons_deux]

It's just a shitty situation all around that could've easily been avoided.

I have serious doubts that the Dems will make Trash pay with his job

They cannot run only against Trash as Hillary, but also FOR something, the more progressive, the better.

Capitalism and neoliberalism are failures, disasters.

Biden is moving in Bernie's direction on Medicare and other stuff