Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

[Will Hunting]

Today I lost another work colleague and friend to this disease. And I don't understand why people keep arguing over this. I'm boots on the ground--I see this crap all day almost everyday. And what I see here is a bunch of "experts" who because the CDC said this, or I read the literature, I saw it on TV/internet, etc I know better blah blah blah. What you hear and what you see is not always what is happening but the truth is always somewhere in the middle. Should you be alarmed, concerned, worried, scared whatever? If you value your life and those of your own, then yes. Treat this as a threat. Play it safe. Follow standard precautions, social distance, stay home if you can... that's how you can help/protect yourself.
If you think this is the flu or a hoax, at least have the common decency to wear a mask out in public because some of us who don't agree with your stance are obligated to do our jobs--taking care of the sick, keeping the stores open, responding to emergencies, etc.
Also, I don't know about all of Texas, but the facilities/hospitals that I frequent are nearing capacity with COVID patients and I'm afraid that we're about to get crushed. I hope that isn't the case but I'm not feeling very optimistic. Hopefully, we can all find some common ground here--so we can get out of this. I'm tired.


Sorry to hear about your friend. Thank you for putting your life on the life to try to save our lives even if not all of us seem to value your work nor safety sadly.
Yep. Any healthcare worker exposing himself to this day in and day out to care for people at risk of dying is a hero. We should all be able to agree with that.

[tholdren]

Show me where I have been crying about daily counts.

You cant even read.
Now you are restating what I said.
A histogram is not a continuum, its data comes in discrete chunks (already stated and you disagreed an now you are implying agreement), otherwise they would not present it as such. When they draw a line between columns in the histogram they are actually assuming time is a continuum but they really just want to blur one day into another to get an overall outlook and therefore must do some sort of averaging. You dont know anything about graphs and what they mean.

Now I dont know what the fck you are even saying, I said absolutely nothing about January. You are just answering or restating your own views and pretending I commented on them.

You can lie so easily, so Trumpish.

Manipulated data for a political purpose is worse than no data.
This is what you love to do, and complain about science.

bwahahahahahaha mwltdown.

You're wrong. You dont even understand how rhe data is calculated. Bwahahahha your post shows it. Sad you don't understand math or logic. Ahhahahahhahaa

[weebo]

Yep. Any healthcare worker exposing himself to this day in and day out to care for people at risk of dying is a hero. We should all be able to agree with that.

I'm ex military (served 13 months in Afghanistan) now I'm here doing this. I'm sorry but I really hate when people say this--it's like we've been given the OK to sacrifice our lives or those of our loved ones for people we don't know or will ever meet. We do what we do because it's our job, we took an oath, and we want to help but no one wants to die. :lol
If people want to show gratitude, help us out so we too can be safe and have a long life.

[TimDunkem]

Today I lost another work colleague and friend to this disease. And I don't understand why people keep arguing over this. I'm boots on the ground--I see this crap all day almost everyday. And what I see here is a bunch of "experts" who because the CDC said this, or I read the literature, I saw it on TV/internet, etc I know better blah blah blah. What you hear and what you see is not always what is happening but the truth is always somewhere in the middle. Should you be alarmed, concerned, worried, scared whatever? If you value your life and those of your own, then yes. Treat this as a threat. Play it safe. Follow standard precautions, social distance, stay home if you can... that's how you can help/protect yourself.
If you think this is the flu or a hoax, at least have the common decency to wear a mask out in public because some of us who don't agree with your stance are obligated to do our jobs--taking care of the sick, keeping the stores open, responding to emergencies, etc.
Also, I don't know about all of Texas, but the facilities/hospitals that I frequent are nearing capacity with COVID patients and I'm afraid that we're about to get crushed. I hope that isn't the case but I'm not feeling very optimistic. Hopefully, we can all find some common ground here--so we can get out of this. I'm tired.

But just increased testing, hospitalizations flat, cough before you die and you're a COVID death, just the flu, etc, etc

[tholdren]

But just increased testing, hospitalizations flat, cough before you die and you're a COVID death, just the flu, etc, etc
Glad you understand. Sad you lied about having cov9d.

[TimDunkem]

th:lolldren lies

And ignores the medical professional in the thread

[tholdren]

th:lolldren lies

And ignores the medical professional in the thread

Beahahahhahaha
Dr. Marc Boom, of Houston Methodist, said those numbers don’t fully tell the capacity story.

“Just that number is being misinterpreted and, quite frankly, we’re concerned that there is a level of alarm in the community that is unwarranted right now,” Boom said.

[TimDunkem]

weebo, your thoughts?^

[TimDunkem]

Today I lost another work colleague and friend to this disease. And I don't understand why people keep arguing over this. I'm boots on the ground--I see this crap all day almost everyday. And what I see here is a bunch of "experts" who because the CDC said this, or I read the literature, I saw it on TV/internet, etc I know better blah blah blah. What you hear and what you see is not always what is happening but the truth is always somewhere in the middle. Should you be alarmed, concerned, worried, scared whatever? If you value your life and those of your own, then yes. Treat this as a threat. Play it safe. Follow standard precautions, social distance, stay home if you can... that's how you can help/protect yourself.
If you think this is the flu or a hoax, at least have the common decency to wear a mask out in public because some of us who don't agree with your stance are obligated to do our jobs--taking care of the sick, keeping the stores open, responding to emergencies, etc.
Also, I don't know about all of Texas, but the facilities/hospitals that I frequent are nearing capacity with COVID patients and I'm afraid that we're about to get crushed. I hope that isn't the case but I'm not feeling very optimistic. Hopefully, we can all find some common ground here--so we can get out of this. I'm tired.

th:loldren, your thoughts? Odd, you ignored this post.

[TimDunkem]

Annnnd the washed-up high school "athlete" troll runs back into his bunker.

[weebo]

weebo, your thoughts?^

I don't know a Dr Boom. You have to understand MD are human too. Some down play it and some over hype it. As I mentioned--the truth lies somewhere in between. I'll also add this--there's a lot of incompetent MD out there. If you happen to fall ill for any reason (not specially to CV19), doc and question everything. Just sayin...

[hater]

This shit is pathetic

We are getting our asses kicked by a tiny bug :wow

[TimDunkem]

This shit is pathetic

We are getting our asses kicked by a tiny bug :wow

By "the flu" no less! :lmao America

[DMC]

Aside from 0-17, these charts line up pretty evenly with the population % of each of these age groups.

That seems like a side note. Yes it's interesting and a good eye but it does not explain why the elderly death rate would increase because the infection rate of lower age people increased. How are the older people dying at a higher rate if they're not in getting infected at a higher rate?

[DMC]

By "the flu" no less! :lmao America

Dude you're the last motherfuker that should be commenting on this. You were here just recently lamenting about how you were dying of fucking covid.

[TimDunkem]

Dude you're the last motherfuker that should be commenting on this. You were here just recently lamenting about how you were dying of fucking covid.

I had the symptoms and was sick as a dog for days working overtime. It's quite possible that I did just like many people out there right now. Was I sure? Not entirely and never said I was sure that I did. Even you said I didn't need a test, shouldn't have to be tested, and just stay home. That's what happened. So, I'm not sure what your point is, fat man.

[DMC]

Show me where I have been crying about daily counts.

You cant even read.
Now you are restating what I said.
A histogram is not a continuum, its data comes in discrete chunks (already stated and you disagreed an now you are implying agreement), otherwise they would not present it as such. When they draw a line between columns in the histogram they are actually assuming time is a continuum but they really just want to blur one day into another to get an overall outlook and therefore must do some sort of averaging. You dont know anything about graphs and what they mean.

Now I dont know what the fck you are even saying, I said absolutely nothing about January. You are just answering or restating your own views and pretending I commented on them.

You can lie so easily, so Trumpish.

Manipulated data for a political purpose is worse than no data.
This is what you love to do, and complain about science.

The next useful thing you say will be the first. You have so much word salad and you provide absolutely nothing in the process.

[RandomGuy]

Today I lost another work colleague and friend to this disease. And I don't understand why people keep arguing over this. I'm boots on the ground--I see this crap all day almost everyday. And what I see here is a bunch of "experts" who because the CDC said this, or I read the literature, I saw it on TV/internet, etc I know better blah blah blah. What you hear and what you see is not always what is happening but the truth is always somewhere in the middle. Should you be alarmed, concerned, worried, scared whatever? If you value your life and those of your own, then yes. Treat this as a threat. Play it safe. Follow standard precautions, social distance, stay home if you can... that's how you can help/protect yourself.
If you think this is the flu or a hoax, at least have the common decency to wear a mask out in public because some of us who don't agree with your stance are obligated to do our jobs--taking care of the sick, keeping the stores open, responding to emergencies, etc.
Also, I don't know about all of Texas, but the facilities/hospitals that I frequent are nearing capacity with COVID patients and I'm afraid that we're about to get crushed. I hope that isn't the case but I'm not feeling very optimistic. Hopefully, we can all find some common ground here--so we can get out of this. I'm tired.

I have run the numbers, based on what the hospitals themselves have been saying. If I am right, it is too late for Texas.

I wish you and your coworkers well, and am sorry for what is about to happen.

[RandomGuy]

The next useful thing you say will be the first. You have so much word salad and you provide absolutely nothing in the process.

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-uDmln3KYjgM/Vetm-e9efVI/AAAAAAAAFvE/PRIkPu8F95M/s1600/irony-alert-ironic.jpg

[RandomGuy]

I don't know a Dr Boom. You have to understand MD are human too. Some down play it and some over hype it. As I mentioned--the truth lies somewhere in between. I'll also add this--there's a lot of incompetent MD out there. If you happen to fall ill for any reason (not specially to CV19), doc and question everything. Just sayin...

What do you call the person who graduated last in their class at medical school?






Doctor.

[TimDunkem]

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-uDmln3KYjgM/Vetm-e9efVI/AAAAAAAAFvE/PRIkPu8F95M/s1600/irony-alert-ironic.jpg

DMC is a master projector. If you aren't like most here and scroll right past his posts, you'll notice most of his directed attacks are usually projections of shit he's done here for years. Really. It's uncanny how often he does it.

[DMC]

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-uDmln3KYjgM/Vetm-e9efVI/AAAAAAAAFvE/PRIkPu8F95M/s1600/irony-alert-ironic.jpg

Ok Jethro..

[DMC]

I have run the numbers, based on what the hospitals themselves have been saying. If I am right, it is too late for Texas.

I wish you and your coworkers well, and am sorry for what is about to happen.

:lmao Wild Cobra level shit

[TimDunkem]

:lmao Wild Cobra level shit

Didn't you try to dox people here, fat hands? Projecting yet again. Told you, RG.

[DMC]

I had the symptoms and was sick as a dog for days working overtime. It's quite possible that I did just like many people out there right now. Was I sure? Not entirely and never said I was sure that I did. Even you said I didn't need a test, shouldn't have to be tested, and just stay home. That's what happened. So, I'm not sure what your point is, fat man.

You didnt stay home. You didnt quarantine. You showed your level of concern for others, pussy.

[DMC]

Didn't you try to dox people here, fat hands? Projecting yet again. Told you, RG.

No... got any other stupid questions?

[TimDunkem]

You didnt stay home. You didnt quarantine. You showed your level of concern for others, pussy.

DMC knows my personal life beyond what I said here in the first few days of showing the symptoms.

DMC right, everyone wrong, honest broker, doesn't care, etc.

[TimDunkem]

No... got any other stupid questions?

Doesn't care! :lol

[Reck]

:lmao Wild Cobra level shit

Not even remotely. I can tell you're bored, fattie.

[RandomGuy]

DMC is a master projector. If you aren't like most here and scroll right past his posts, you'll notice most of his directed attacks are usually projections of shit he's done here for years. Really. It's uncanny how often he does it.

Pretty much. He avoids taking any kind of position whatsoever.

It is pure projection.

My working theory is that he was subject to some kind of abuse as a kid. He plays that out here, and his lack of posting anything substantive is part of the defense mechanism he developed during that abused period.

Abuse tends to echo through time, and this seems to be an echo of that. I feel a bit sorry for him for that reason. It must have been unpleasant.

Still.

[TimDunkem]

^Honestly it makes sense, tbh. :lol You can tell he's overcompensating for something.

[RandomGuy]

:lmao Wild Cobra level shit

Way to make my point for me about your level of posting.

I genuinely feel a bit sorry for you. It must have been bad, whatever it was. Hopefully you will find some measure of happiness at some point.

[TSA]

I have run the numbers, based on what the hospitals themselves have been saying. If I am right, it is too late for Texas.

I wish you and your coworkers well, and am sorry for what is about to happen.Texas hospital CEO: COVID inpatient count 'misinterpreted,' level of alarm 'unwarranted'

ealth officials in Texas are logging every single COVID-19-positive hospital patient in the state as a COVID-19 hospitalization, even if the patients themselves are admitted seeking treatment for something other than the coronavirus.

That policy may be serving to artificially inflate what ostensibly seems like a significant COVID-19 surge in the state. Texas has lately been the focal point of national anxiety over concerns that a "second wave" of the coronavirus has begun there after the state began reopening nearly two months ago.

COVID-19 hospitalizations there have been on a steady upward track for about the last two weeks, per the state's coronavirus dashboard, which on Thursday recorded about 4,400 coronavirus hospitalizations in the state. But at least part of that trend may be due to liberal coding policies by state officials.

Lindsey Rosales, a spokeswoman for the Texas Department of State Health Services, confirmed to Just the News this week that the state is categorizing every inpatient in the state with a positive COVID-19 test as a COVID-19 hospitalization.

"The number of hospitalized patients includes patients with a lab-confirmed case of COVID-19 even if the person is admitted to the hospital for a different reason," Rosales said.

Asked if inpatients in the state are tested for COVID-19 whenever they arrive for treatment, Rosales said, "Hospitals set their own protocols for determining when and if to test patients for COVID-19."

She said the state does not keep track of the patients hospitalized with the coronavirus versus those hospitalized specifically because of it.

Texas Health Resources, one of the state's largest hospital systems, says on its website that its "patients [are] tested before most procedures." Elective surgeries and other medical procedures in Texas have gone up in recent weeks as the state has gradually re-opened following its lockdown.

Amid worry, major hospital leaders stress calm

Queries to multiple Texas hospital officials this week went unanswered. But leaders of several major hospitals in Houston this week urged the public to remain calm, suggesting that the extent of the outbreak has been overstated.

At a virtual press conference on Thursday, the chief executives of Houston Methodist, Memorial Hermann Health System, St. Luke’s Health, and Texas Children’s hospitals stated that their hospitals are well-prepared to handle an even greater increase in patients than that which has emerged over the past few weeks.

The number of hospitalizations are "being misinterpreted," said Houston Methodist CEO Marc Boom, "and, quite frankly, we’re concerned that there is a level of alarm in the community that is unwarranted right now."

"We do have the capacity to care for many more patients, and have lots of fluidity and ability to manage," Boom said.

He pointed out that his hospital one year ago was at 95% ICU capacity, similar to the numbers the hospital is seeing today. "It is completely normal for us to have ICU capacities that run in the 80s and 90s," he said. "That's how all hospitals operate."

He noted that around 25% of ICU patients are COVID-19-positive. But the hospital "[has] many levers in our ability to adjust our ICU," he said, claiming that the hospital capacity regularly reported by the media is "base" capacity rather than surge capacity.

Texas Children's Hospital CEO Mark Wallace added that his facility has "a lot of capacity."

"We have the ability to take care of all of the Houstonians that need a critical care environment, that need to be operated on, or acute care," Wallace said.

"There is not a scenario, in my opinion, where the demand for our beds ... would eclipse our capability," he continued. "I cannot imagine that. I just cannot."

As of Thursday afternoon, Texas had around 13,000 open hospital beds statewide.

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/texas-government-counting-every-covid-positive-hospital-case

[Trill Clinton]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=Qm6yjTrGkLc&feature=emb_lo go

welp

[Trill Clinton]

1276566603409371137

[spurraider21]

worldometer already has the US at over 35k new cases today, with CA/Texas only showing a combined ~3000 when they've been averaging closer to a combined ~10k in recent days. we're going to set a new record again.

deaths have remained steady though

[tholdren]

I have run the numbers, based on what the hospitals themselves have been saying. If I am right, it is too late for Texas.

I wish you and your coworkers well, and am sorry for what is about to happen.

Lol your math

[ChumpDumper]

Texas hospital CEO: COVID inpatient count 'misinterpreted,' level of alarm 'unwarranted'

ealth officials in Texas are logging every single COVID-19-positive hospital patient in the state as a COVID-19 hospitalization, even if the patients themselves are admitted seeking treatment for something other than the coronavirus.

That policy may be serving to artificially inflate what ostensibly seems like a significant COVID-19 surge in the state. Texas has lately been the focal point of national anxiety over concerns that a "second wave" of the coronavirus has begun there after the state began reopening nearly two months ago.

COVID-19 hospitalizations there have been on a steady upward track for about the last two weeks, per the state's coronavirus dashboard, which on Thursday recorded about 4,400 coronavirus hospitalizations in the state. But at least part of that trend may be due to liberal coding policies by state officials.

Lindsey Rosales, a spokeswoman for the Texas Department of State Health Services, confirmed to Just the News this week that the state is categorizing every inpatient in the state with a positive COVID-19 test as a COVID-19 hospitalization.

"The number of hospitalized patients includes patients with a lab-confirmed case of COVID-19 even if the person is admitted to the hospital for a different reason," Rosales said.

Asked if inpatients in the state are tested for COVID-19 whenever they arrive for treatment, Rosales said, "Hospitals set their own protocols for determining when and if to test patients for COVID-19."

She said the state does not keep track of the patients hospitalized with the coronavirus versus those hospitalized specifically because of it.

Texas Health Resources, one of the state's largest hospital systems, says on its website that its "patients [are] tested before most procedures." Elective surgeries and other medical procedures in Texas have gone up in recent weeks as the state has gradually re-opened following its lockdown.

Amid worry, major hospital leaders stress calm

Queries to multiple Texas hospital officials this week went unanswered. But leaders of several major hospitals in Houston this week urged the public to remain calm, suggesting that the extent of the outbreak has been overstated.

At a virtual press conference on Thursday, the chief executives of Houston Methodist, Memorial Hermann Health System, St. Luke’s Health, and Texas Children’s hospitals stated that their hospitals are well-prepared to handle an even greater increase in patients than that which has emerged over the past few weeks.

The number of hospitalizations are "being misinterpreted," said Houston Methodist CEO Marc Boom, "and, quite frankly, we’re concerned that there is a level of alarm in the community that is unwarranted right now."

"We do have the capacity to care for many more patients, and have lots of fluidity and ability to manage," Boom said.

He pointed out that his hospital one year ago was at 95% ICU capacity, similar to the numbers the hospital is seeing today. "It is completely normal for us to have ICU capacities that run in the 80s and 90s," he said. "That's how all hospitals operate."

He noted that around 25% of ICU patients are COVID-19-positive. But the hospital "[has] many levers in our ability to adjust our ICU," he said, claiming that the hospital capacity regularly reported by the media is "base" capacity rather than surge capacity.

Texas Children's Hospital CEO Mark Wallace added that his facility has "a lot of capacity."

"We have the ability to take care of all of the Houstonians that need a critical care environment, that need to be operated on, or acute care," Wallace said.

"There is not a scenario, in my opinion, where the demand for our beds ... would eclipse our capability," he continued. "I cannot imagine that. I just cannot."

As of Thursday afternoon, Texas had around 13,000 open hospital beds statewide.

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/texas-government-counting-every-covid-positive-hospital-caseStrange that hospital officials balk when elective procedures are restricted again.

[tholdren]

Strange that hospital officials balk when elective procedures are restricted again.

they never have

[ChumpDumper]

they never haveth:lolldren's gossip

[tholdren]

th:lolldren's gossip

this has been a state decision. You are not knowledgeable about much

[ChumpDumper]

this has been a state decision. You are not knowledgeable about muchTake it up with Ironside.

[pgardn]

The next useful thing you say will be the first. You have so much word salad and you provide absolutely nothing in the process.

You threw that graph in AFTER I explained it to you.
Pure chicken shit and you know it.
Par for the course for you.

Other posters might not keep up with it, but I did and you were just wrong.

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/106010497_3071462212900068_8993802894936126340_n.p ng?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=h8bgJMopZ0AAX8nG7eW&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=db88e5d838f6055d0a2c0f707b884896&oe=5F1D08F0

[ChumpDumper]

You threw that graph in AFTER I explained it to you.
Pure chicken shit and you know it.
Par for the course for you.

Other posters might not keep up with it, but I did and you were just wrong.DerpMC's other tactic is to pretend to not understand a post that shits on him.

[tholdren]

You threw that graph in AFTER I explained it to you.
Pure chicken shit and you know it.
Par for the course for you.

Other posters might not keep up with it, but I did and you were just wrong.

bwahahahhahahahahah the continued meltdown. You dobt even understand the data. Bqahahahahhahahahahhahaha.

[boutons_deux]

Strange that hospital officials balk when elective procedures are restricted again.

So the TSA idea is that as long as hospitals have capacity for C19 victims, all is OK. Go ahead engage in risky behavior.

"When you get sick as a dog with C19, need hospitalization, no fear, hospitals are not full" (yet)

[tholdren]

So the TSA idea is that as long as hospitals have capacity for C19 victims, all is OK. Go ahead engage in risky behavior.

"When you get sick as a dog with C19, need hospitalization, no fear, hospitals are not full" (yet)

Yeah its kind of like hospitals can make their own decision. Strange.

[pgardn]

DerpMC's other tactic is to pretend to not understand a post that shits on him.

I am now aware of his chicken shit.
He gets shit on and falls into derp-oldren antics.
Its happened more often lately.

The thing is on this one, I know he understands because he posts a graph by age group AFTER he got told.

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/106190765_10220867948461248_1061470562950358247_n. jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_sid=1480c5&_nc_ohc=VvK3-7BYWeYAX-JckMe&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=da9b2012464302694405a6bac348aa51&oe=5F1A4FF5

[boutons_deux]

https://cdn.talkingpointsmemo.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Screen-Shot-2020-06-26-at-11.38.20-AM.png

[ChumpDumper]

So the TSA idea is that as long as hospitals have capacity for C19 victims, all is OK. Go ahead engage in risky behavior.

"When you get sick as a dog with C19, need hospitalization, no fear, hospitals are not full" (yet)Looks like it. The thing is with the kind of growth we're seeing in cases, hospitals and governments have to project weeks into the future. Half the time it looks like they're overreacting when they're simply preparing for a likely scenario (preparing for more patients) and the other half it looks like they react too late to situations that have already changed (today's closing of just bars).

[tholdren]

Looks like it. The thing is with the kind of growth we're seeing in cases, hospitals and governments have to project weeks into the future. Half the time it looks like they're overreacting when they're simply preparing for a likely scenario (preparing for more patients) and the other half it looks like they react too late to situations that have already changed (today's closing of just bars).
Bwahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahaha

Lolookokl

What a take.

[Reck]

bwahahahhahahahahah the continued meltdown. You dobt even understand the data. Bqahahahahhahahahahhahaha.

Dude, I get why half the board has you on ignore. lol

[ChumpDumper]

Lolookokl
I broke th:lolldren.

[DMC]

I had the symptoms and was sick as a dog for days working overtime. It's quite possible that I did just like many people out there right now. Was I sure? Not entirely and never said I was sure that I did. Even you said I didn't need a test, shouldn't have to be tested, and just stay home. That's what happened. So, I'm not sure what your point is, fat man.


DMC knows my personal life beyond what I said here in the first few days of showing the symptoms.

DMC right, everyone wrong, honest broker, doesn't care, etc.

:donkey

[DMC]

I had the symptoms and was sick as a dog for days working overtime. It's quite possible that I did just like many people out there right now. Was I sure? Not entirely and never said I was sure that I did. Even you said I didn't need a test, shouldn't have to be tested, and just stay home. That's what happened. So, I'm not sure what your point is, fat man.


Bwahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahaha

Lolookokl

What a take.

This is what it looks like out his bedroom window. He's only calling it like he sees it.

[DMC]

You threw that graph in AFTER I explained it to you.
Pure chicken shit and you know it.
Par for the course for you.

Other posters might not keep up with it, but I did and you were just wrong.

The graph wasn't for you, it was in response to Blake - idiot.

[boutons_deux]

Senator Judge Doom said he didn't want FL paying for NY's pandemic crisis.

Will NY refuse to pay for Senator Judge Doom's pandemic crisis? He sure loves those $10Bs from the Feds for hurricane recovery.

[DarrinS]

1276566603409371137

Pretty stupid to wear a mask while jogging, tbh.

[pgardn]

this has been a state decision. You are not knowledgeable about much

Its an executive order by the governor of Texas.
I dont know exactly how this is enforced.
So you are saying hospitals can decide a purely cosmetic surgery that could easily be done later can still be carried out by any hospital in the 4 counties the governor designated?

[DarrinS]

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/106190765_10220867948461248_1061470562950358247_n. jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_sid=1480c5&_nc_ohc=VvK3-7BYWeYAX-JckMe&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=da9b2012464302694405a6bac348aa51&oe=5F1A4FF5


Now do deaths.

[pgardn]

The graph wasn't for you, it was in response to Blake - idiot.

Well then your explanation to Blake was off in the first place.

Dumbshit.

[tholdren]

Well then your explanation to Blake was off in the first place.

Dumbshit.
Lol you think cases are all active infections. Bwahahahhahahahahahahahah

[pgardn]

Pretty stupid to wear a mask while jogging, tbh.

Agree.

Unless you are in a full gym with a bunch of idiots running in a circle.

[pgardn]

Lol you think cases are all active infections. Bwahahahhahahahahahahahah

wtf are you even babbling about...
That is not what I explained.

[ChumpDumper]

Pretty stupid to wear a mask while jogging, tbh.But hurts absolutely nothing so no reason to bitch about it, especially some dumbass politician.

[ChumpDumper]

wtf are you even babbling about...
That is not what I explained.Three months in the bunker drove him insane.

[SpursforSix]

Pretty stupid to wear a mask while jogging, tbh.

Is he sure it was a mask for COVID? I've seen plenty of serious joggers that wear training masks. I think they're called altitude masks or something like that.

https://contestimg.wish.com/api/webimage/5e8ff085f4d5af2e265091f8-0-medium?cache_buster=12682b8d26103c5d59f1e2fe83d760 ff

[SnakeBoy]

Cdc ifr rate compared to flu. Released last month. Cdc now says over 20million have had covid so that would take ofr down considerably.

Cdc website.

I'm not going to dig through their website but if 20M have had it that puts mortality rate at around .6%. Is that what you are trying to say by "2x flu"?

We're pretty fucked if mortality is .6%

[TimDunkem]

:donkey

And then I went home. Most of the days I was sick were spent at home. Fat man really needs internet W.

[tholdren]

And then I went home. Most of the days I was sick were spent at home. Fat man really needs internet W.

Lol you tried to get sympathy from a lie. And you went to work. That is extremely irresponsible

[TimDunkem]

th:lolldren the washed up high school athlete lies and distorts reality from the safety of his bunker. :lol Ghost of March and April

[DMC]

Pretty much. He avoids taking any kind of position whatsoever.

It is pure projection.

My working theory is that he was subject to some kind of abuse as a kid. He plays that out here, and his lack of posting anything substantive is part of the defense mechanism he developed during that abused period.

Abuse tends to echo through time, and this seems to be an echo of that. I feel a bit sorry for him for that reason. It must have been unpleasant.

Still.

:lol WC lite

[DMC]

And then I went home. Most of the days I was sick were spent at home. Fat man really needs internet W.

You told everyone your life story, why are you pretending I had to invent anything?

[TimDunkem]

You told everyone your life story, why are you pretending I had to invent anything?
Not at all, but hey if you want to go there why don't you try and dox me, fat man. :lol

[DMC]

I'm not going to dig through their website but if 20M have had it that puts mortality rate at around .6%. Is that what you are trying to say by "2x flu"?

We're pretty fucked if mortality is .6%

It's a novel virus. Mortality rate would naturally drop as antibodies are built.

[DMC]

Not at all, but hey if you want to go there why don't you try and dox me, fat man. :lol

Your boss doesn't even know who you are, why should I care?

[DMC]

wtf are you even babbling about...
That is not what I explained.

perhaps you should stop pretending to be some esoteric riddler of science and just make normal comments. It's amusing how no one understands what the fuck you're getting on about.

[TimDunkem]

Yep. DMC's patented "I don't care" as my notifications are filled with quotes from him. :lol

[boutons_deux]

dickhead Cheney

https://am11.mediaite.com/med/cnt/uploads/2020/06/dick-cheney-1200x825.jpg

[tholdren]

Yep. DMC's patented "I don't care" as my notifications are filled with quotes from him. :lol
Lol spurstalk notifications. Sad.

[ChumpDumper]

dickhead Cheney

https://am11.mediaite.com/med/cnt/uploads/2020/06/dick-cheney-1200x825.jpg

More machine than man and even he is masking up.

[DMC]

Now do deaths.

https://i1.wp.com/issuesinsights.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Screen-Shot-2020-04-22-at-2.29.34-PM.png

[ChumpDumper]

https://i1.wp.com/issuesinsights.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Screen-Shot-2020-04-22-at-2.29.34-PM.pngApril 22?

lol DMC

[DMC]

Well then your explanation to Blake was off in the first place.

Dumbshit.

You're wrong per the usual

[DMC]

April 22?

lol DMC

They didn't come back to life.

[ChumpDumper]

They didn't come back to life.And no one died after April 22 and Trump was the perfect president all along.

[DarrinS]

April 22?

lol DMC


Here's more recent data

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/

[DMC]

Here's more recent data

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/

Not categorized by political party ergo not useful to the partisan shitbirds here.

[ElNono]

Here's more recent data

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/

Yep, the North East got hit really bad early on.

[ChumpDumper]

Not categorized by political party ergo not useful to the partisan shitbirds here.:lol you posted your April 22 screenshot, so you're a partisan shitbird.

[DarrinS]

Here's cases

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1102807/coronavirus-covid19-cases-number-us-americans-by-state/#statisticContainer


We could add up Texas, Florida, and Arizona and still not catch up to NY.

[ElNono]

Here's cases

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1102807/coronavirus-covid19-cases-number-us-americans-by-state/#statisticContainer

We could add up Texas, Florida, and Arizona and still not catch up to NY.

You don't want to catch up to NY, tbh

[DarrinS]

You don't want to catch up to NY, tbh

Obviously not

[DMC]

And no one died after April 22 and Trump was the perfect president all along.



That's your other personality reading from your script.

Trump was never perfect, and Cuomo was directly in charge of the state that saw 30K+ deaths but you rarely if ever mention him.

[ChumpDumper]

That's your other personality reading from your script.

Trump was never perfect, and Cuomo was directly in charge of the state that saw 30K+ deaths but you rarely if ever mention him.I said he fucked up multiple times.

You have never criticized Trump for anything.

[DMC]

You don't want to catch up to NY, tbh

Why? Cuomo did a stellar job while McCripple "Handlebars" Atrophesis killed 2500 Texans.

[ElNono]

Why? Cuomo did a stellar job while McCripple "Handlebars" Atrophesis killed 2500 Texans.

Cuomo didn't do a stellar job, but also Cuomo didn't have the hindsight Abbott has.

One thing is to get the bulk of the problem very early on, another thing is to have seen what this thing can do, and still do stupid things.

[Spurminator]

That seems like a side note. Yes it's interesting and a good eye but it does not explain why the elderly death rate would increase because the infection rate of lower age people increased. How are the older people dying at a higher rate if they're not in getting infected at a higher rate?

Higher mortality rate for older people seems like an obvious answer.

[tholdren]

I said he fucked up multiple times.

You have never criticized Trump for anything.

No you haven't. You said he couldn't control wet markets because none were in ny and they were all in china.

Gossip gone wild

[Will Hunting]

:lmao Mike Penis asking everyone to pray about coronavirus

Pretty sure if god gave two fucks about helping people recover from coronavirus he wouldn’t have infected millions of people in the first place.

[tholdren]

:lmao Mike Penis asking everyone to pray about coronavirus

Pretty sure if god gave two fucks about helping people recover from coronavirus he wouldn’t have infected millions of people in the first place.

Your take on that is how many feel about masks.

[ChumpDumper]

[lie]th:lolldren

[DarrinS]

:lmao Mike Penis asking everyone to pray about coronavirus

Pretty sure if god gave two fucks about helping people recover from coronavirus he wouldn’t have infected millions of people in the first place.


Ok, I laughed pretty hard. Thanks.

[hater]

Ok, I laughed pretty hard. Thanks.

Thats my trend nica

:tu its free so use it as you please

[pgardn]

perhaps you should stop pretending to be some esoteric riddler of science and just make normal comments. It's amusing how no one understands what the fuck you're getting on about.

Its amazing how YOU want to claim "word salad" when your answers clearly show you understand what Im talking about.
You got caught saying something stupid again. I cant help you with that. Then you defend it showing me you understand what I am saying. Only you deflect it or move backwards to cover yourself. Then use the most juvenile, lying poster on the board as an example that shows I cant be understood.

Dont give me this shit every time you start spouting off about crap you dont understand or make a mistake on.
This happens all to often. Just say you are wrong, or stfu.

[tholdren]

Its amazing how YOU want to claim "word salad" when your answers clearly show you understand what Im talking about.
You got caught saying something stupid again. I cant help you with that. Then you defend it showing me you understand what I am saying. Only you deflect it or move backwards to cover yourself. Then use the most juvenile, lying poster on the board as an example that shows I cant be understood.

Dont give me this shit every time you start spouting off about crap you dont understand or make a mistake on.
This happens all to often. Just say you are wrong, or stfu.
BwashahahhaHhaHAhhhshshsshhzhsz

Melllllllllltttttttttddddddooooowwwwwwwn

Because you wrong about logic and math


HajhahhaaHhHa

[pgardn]

BwashahahhaHhaHAhhhshshsshhzhsz

Melllllllllltttttttttddddddooooowwwwwwwn

Because you wrong about logic and math


HajhahhaaHhHa

DMC backs this shit...

[tholdren]

DMC backs this shit...

bwahahahahhahahHHHHHHHhHHH

Profanity because logic is not used. How juvenile.

[pgardn]

bwahahahahhahahHHHHHHHhHHH

Profanity because logic is not used. How juvenile.

Yes you are a logic and math wizard.
Its why anytime you are actually challenged you back out.
You are boring and dumb. But you are here. So I will smack you upside the head if you ask for it.

[tholdren]

Yes you are a logic and math wizard.
Its why anytime you are actually challenged you back out.
You are boring and dumb. But you are here. So I will smack you upside the head if you ask for it.
Yep I know my math and logic. You do not. Glad you admit. First step.

[pgardn]

Yep I know my math and logic. You do not. Glad you admit. First step.

you ready for a question about graphs that are quite prevalent during this time and displayed in many threads?
I already answered the question Im thinking of, but maybe you disagree.

[tholdren]

you ready for a question about graphs that are quite prevalent during this time and displayed in many threads?
I already answered the question Im thinking of, but maybe you disagree.
Bwahahahahahha
Are you ready for questions about graphs. Lolololokololoklokkolklk

Incoherent post by pgardn. Looks like he wants to make some graphs. Lololool

By using inaccurate data lol

[ChumpDumper]

Bwahahahahahha
Are you ready for questions about graphs. Lolololokololoklokkolklk

Incoherent post by pgardn. Looks like he wants to make some graphs. Lololool

By using inaccurate data lolth:lolldren trying to call anyone else incoherent

[tholdren]

th:lolldren trying to call anyone else incoherent

Lolololol you said kansas

[ChumpDumper]

Lolololol you said kansasYou said it's the flu.

[tholdren]

You said it's the flu.
Cdc making it less than flu. Beahahahahahahahahs

[ChumpDumper]

Cdc making it less than flu. Beahahahahahahahahsth:lolldren's gossip

[tholdren]

th:lolldren's gossip

you must not read

[ChumpDumper]

you must not readI read fine.

You lie.

You gossip.

You lie some more.

Why do you lie so much?

[tholdren]

I read fine.

You lie.

You gossip.

You lie some more.

Why do you lie so much?

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) appears to have recently added three new symptoms of the novel coronavirus to its ongoing list.

Congestion or runny nose, nausea, and diarrhea were added, joining the federal agency’s list that already included fever or chills, cough, shortness of breath or difficulty breathing, fatigue, muscle or body aches, headache, new loss of taste or smell and sore throat.

[tholdren]

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) appears to have recently added three new symptoms of the novel coronavirus to its ongoing list.

Congestion or runny nose, nausea, and diarrhea were added, joining the federal agency’s list that already included fever or chills, cough, shortness of breath or difficulty breathing, fatigue, muscle or body aches, headache, new loss of taste or smell and sore throat.

You can now be a case with...... a runny nose

[ChumpDumper]

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) appears to have recently added three new symptoms of the novel coronavirus to its ongoing list.

Congestion or runny nose, nausea, and diarrhea were added, joining the federal agency’s list that already included fever or chills, cough, shortness of breath or difficulty breathing, fatigue, muscle or body aches, headache, new loss of taste or smell and sore throat.You didn't answer the question.

Why do you lie so much?

[tholdren]

You can now be a case with...... a runny nose

no positive test needed

[Blake]

April 22?

lol DMC

Lol

[ElNono]

In other news, I heard some good new on the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine trial going on in Brazil. It doesn't prevent infection, but it appears to stop severe complications in most cases.

[DarrinS]

It’s “highly likely” that the surge is connected to mass protests that erupted in recent weeks over the death of George Floyd, L.A. County Public Health Director Barbara Ferrer said.

[hater]

It’s “highly likely” that the surge is connected to mass protests that erupted in recent weeks over the death of George Floyd, L.A. County Public Health Director Barbara Ferrer said.

Both protests and opening up.

I cant believe some retards its either or.

[DarrinS]

Both protests and opening up.

I cant believe some retards its either or.

No doubt it's both

[spurraider21]

It’s “highly likely” that the surge is connected to mass protests that erupted in recent weeks over the death of George Floyd, L.A. County Public Health Director Barbara Ferrer said.
I’m sorry

[Winehole23]

It’s “highly likely” that the surge is connected to mass protests that erupted in recent weeks over the death of George Floyd, L.A. County Public Health Director Barbara Ferrer said.DarrinS pointing fingers, making political hay from a pandemic spike.

DarrinS blames protesters.

[DMC]

DarrinS pointing fingers, making political hay from a pandemic spike.

DarrinS blames protesters.

So pointing out the truth is making political hay? What, should the truth be toppled like a confederate statue?

[tholdren]

DarrinS pointing fingers, making political hay from a pandemic spike.

DarrinS blames protesters.

So it wasn't the protesters but it was the bar goers and beach goers who were two completely different groups of people.

Got it.

[boutons_deux]

What’s At Risk: An 18-Month View of a Post-COVID World

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/whats-at-risk-an-18-month-view-of-a-post-covid-world/ (https://www.visualcapitalist.com/whats-at-risk-an-18-month-view-of-a-post-covid-world/)

[boutons_deux]

https://2oqz471sa19h3vbwa53m33yj-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Whats-At-Risk-18-Month-View-of-COVID-19-Risks.jpg

[Winehole23]

So it wasn't the protesters but it was the bar goers and beach goers who were two completely different groups of people.

Got it.I made no claim, I just glossed DarrinS's

[DarrinS]

I made no claim, I just glossed DarrinS's

I posted a quote from L.A. County Public Health Director. Pay attention

[Winehole23]

So pointing out the truth is making political hay? What, should the truth be toppled like a confederate statue?Toppling the truth is your hobby horse, not mine, sorry about the Confederate statues, clearly you still have some raw feelings about that..

You and all these feral cretins you truck with now.

[DarrinS]

Toppling the truth is your hobby horse, not mine, sorry about the Confederate statues, clearly you still have some raw feelings about that..

You and all these feral cretins you truck with now.

Lol, bringing up statues

[ChumpDumper]

Why didn't New York City get a spike in cases?

https://cdn.abcotvs.com/dip/images/6236392_060720-wabc-ap-sundayprotests-img.jpg

[Winehole23]

I posted a quote from L.A. County Public Health Director. Pay attentionthat's one person's opinion, it flatters your priors so you naturally agree.

Emphasizing one factor only is gross simplification of the situation at best. At worst it's a misleading citation of the truth. If you don't also credit the context of reopening, you're just being dishonest.

[Winehole23]

Lol, bringing up statuesDMC opened that door.

Knock em all down. Statues aren't history.

[DarrinS]

Why didn't New York City get a spike in cases?

https://cdn.abcotvs.com/dip/images/6236392_060720-wabc-ap-sundayprotests-img.jpg


So many already had it there. No fuel.

[DarrinS]

Deaths per 1M population

NY: 1700
TX: 83

[ChumpDumper]

So many already had it there. No fuel.Are you joking?

There are over 8 million people in NYC.

Your claim is they have herd immunity.

[DarrinS]

Are you joking?

There are over 8 million people in NYC.

Your claim is they have herd immunity.



No, dipshit, but a bunch did.

[DarrinS]

Deaths per 1M population

NY: 1700
TX: 83


Cuomo awesome
Abbott bad

[ChumpDumper]

No, dipshit, but a bunch did.Even if they had a million cases there are still 7 million more people and you say there is no fuel.:lol

lol "dipshit"

[ChumpDumper]

Cuomo awesome
Abbott badDarrin just aching to politicize every single post.

[DarrinS]

Lol, chump wants a slap fight. No thanks

[DMC]

DarrinS pointing fingers, making political hay from a pandemic spike.

DarrinS blames protesters.


I made no claim, I just glossed DarrinS's

Wrong. You made a claim.

[DMC]

Cuomo awesome
Abbott bad

Getting beat by a cripple

[DMC]

Toppling the truth is your hobby horse, not mine, sorry about the Confederate statues, clearly you still have some raw feelings about that..

You and all these feral cretins you truck with now.

"Dropped like a hot potato"

Wine - "sorry about the hot potatoes, clearly you still have some raw feelings about that"

[ChumpDumper]

Lol, chump wants a slap fight. No thanksLol. Darrin says seven million people are immune because reasons.

[ElNono]

lmao @ the incel club creating fake mask exception cards

https://snipboard.io/FJEL5n.jpg

[ChumpDumper]

lmao @ the incel club creating fake mask exception cards

https://snipboard.io/FJEL5n.jpg:lmao the website doesn't even exist

[Spurtacular]

Why didn't New York City get a spike in cases?

https://cdn.abcotvs.com/dip/images/6236392_060720-wabc-ap-sundayprotests-img.jpg

What's your answer?

[ChumpDumper]

What's your answer?I could be possible that protests aren't a major contributor to COVID-19 spikes that you claim never happened anyway.

[Spurtacular]

I could be possible that protests aren't a major contributor to COVID-19 spikes that you claim never happened anyway.

You're just spitting out the alleged result. You're not giving a reason for why the lack of social distancing didn't much matter if at all.

[ChumpDumper]

You're just spitting out the alleged result. You're not giving a reason for why the lack of social distancing didn't much matter if at all.They're outside and have masks on.

[Spurtacular]

They're outside and have masks on.

So, social distancing doesn't matter. :tu

[ChumpDumper]

So, social distancing doesn't matter. :tuYou're an idiot.:tu

[Spurtacular]

You're an idiot.:tu

Don't lash out just because you've made the case that social distancing doesn't matter.

[ChumpDumper]

Don't lash out just because you've made the case that social distancing doesn't matter.I'm saying you're an idiot because you've made the case you're an idiot.:tu

[Spurtacular]

I'm saying you're an idiot because you've made the case you're an idiot.:tu

So, cases did go up because protestors didn't socially distance?

Yes or no.

[ChumpDumper]

So, cases did go up because protestors didn't socially distance?

Yes or no.I don't know. Masks are recommended in part to make up for the fact that social distancing isn't always possible.

Do you maintain social distancing at all times?

[Spurtacular]

I don't know.

So, your science is so shit that you can't say whether large crowd gatherings in which people don't socially distance spreads COVID or not.
Glad we could shut down the economy for that, shithead.

TheGreatYacht

[ChumpDumper]

So, your science is so shit that you can't say whether large crowd gatherings in which people don't socially distance spreads COVID or not.I'm not a scientist.

Do you maintain social distancing at all times?

[Spurtacular]

I'm not a scientist.

Do you maintain social distancing at all times?


You never said how the virus spreads. You must not understand science.

[ChumpDumper]

derp folds

[Spurtacular]

I'm not a scientist.

Do you maintain social distancing at all times?


derp folds

More accurately, cherp folds. Let's look at how your tune has changed. :lol

TheGreatYacht koriwhat DMC Chris



Those rubes weren't socially distancing.

.........


The lefties are staying at home to protect people like your wife in the health care service, who you were "worried and stressed as fuck" about a little over a month ago.

But more important to lol libs and :cheer Trump.


Trump has gifted the cowardly lion courage so he can call for the deaths of the elderly.

.........


:lol I wasn't even trying to trigger him. Far as I can see the rideshare strike was drivers just not working. Hardly a street demonstration. But I'll shit on any demonstration that ignores distancing, etc.

.........

Cherp seconded this:


people not wearing masks are being irresponsible

.........


Trump pretty much makes everyone lie either for him or to get along working for him. That TSA doesn't give a shit about Trump's lies or the thousands of Americans who dies because of Trump tell you all you need to know about him.

.........


I want him to not kill any more Americans.

"Liberate!" tweets kill Americans.

........


I guessed the recent Texas spike in new cases was from increased shopping and family get togethers over Easter but since 'Murica doesn't do no fancy communist contact tracing there's no way to tell.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao derp's trying so hard.

I asked why New York had a spike after their protests. You folded and asked me the same question. I answered.

Sorry.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao derp's trying so hard.

I asked why New York didn't have a spike after their protests. You folded and asked me the same question in the finest ankle biting fashion. I answered with my best guess and my reasoning behind it.

None of it ever mattered to you.

The only thing that matters to you is your obsession with me.

lol derp

[Splits]

lmao @ the incel club creating fake mask exception cards

https://snipboard.io/FJEL5n.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbmQf0EWoAMkQ70?format=jpg&name=medium

[Will Hunting]

lmao @ the incel club creating fake mask exception cards

https://snipboard.io/FJEL5n.jpg
Almost as funny as all the Karens who have amorphous “medical conditions” that make it so they can’t wear a mask :lol

[TimDunkem]

Almost 11k new cases in Florida today. Jeez.

[TimDunkem]

1277227523101863937

[spurraider21]

Almost 11k new cases in Florida today. Jeez.
Man that’s gonna be a lot of pneumonia deaths

[Blake]

1277227523101863937

Trump's plan is to golf

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/Thomas1774Paine/status/1277493260290752513?s=19

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/Thomas1774Paine/status/1277493260290752513?s=19

GATES: There are 60 million healthcare workers [around the world]. They deserve to get the vaccine first, they’re the ones dealing with this on the front lines, trying to keep us all safe.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jenniferwang/2020/06/23/bill-and-melinda-gates-have-sharp-words-for-us-lack-of-leadership-in-fighting-pandemic/#1dd2a5652e8c

You just posted fake news.

What are you going to do about it?

[Chris]

GATES: There are 60 million healthcare workers [around the world]. They deserve to get the vaccine first, they’re the ones dealing with this on the front lines, trying to keep us all safe.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jenniferwang/2020/06/23/bill-and-melinda-gates-have-sharp-words-for-us-lack-of-leadership-in-fighting-pandemic/#1dd2a5652e8c

You just posted fake news.

What are you going to do about it?

Gates then went on to explain who in the healthcare industry should receive the vaccine first.

“Then you have to start to tier from there, based on the countries and the populations,” Gates continued. “Here in the United States, it’s going to be black people who really should get it first and many indigenous people"


Just go to bed :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Gates then went on to explain who in the healthcare industry should receive the vaccine first.

“Then you have to start to tier from there, based on the countries and the populations,” Gates continued. “Here in the United States, it’s going to be black people who really should get it first and many indigenous people"


Just go to bed :lol

After all the health care workers in the world.

Meaning not actually first.

Thanks for verifying, Qhris.:tu

[boutons_deux]

what about the 100 - 150M Americans who poll as going to refuse any C19 vaccine?

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/106292352_2686675238322451_1499025124272822955_n.j pg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_sid=ca434c&_nc_ohc=IyUUI8qdtAsAX-Ewifm&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=f21c3464925a19bf21d551cf20557b70&oe=5F1DC12A

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/105752551_10163581995435702_1086556649080307564_n. jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=KRYvC2BEyb8AX_OrJ-f&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=1d3ca6aece67d86e52112655291bb3bd&oe=5F1E40E9

[TimDunkem]

Paging Dr.tholdren

Oh wait. He dissapeared again :lol

[Blake]

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/105752551_10163581995435702_1086556649080307564_n. jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=KRYvC2BEyb8AX_OrJ-f&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=1d3ca6aece67d86e52112655291bb3bd&oe=5F1E40E9

Just curious, what's the possibility of transmission if neither are wearing a mask. 73.5?

[tholdren]

Ifr less than flu. Except for those who drive up the ifr for flu. Strange

[Blake]

I'm strange

[ElNono]

Gates then went on to explain who in the healthcare industry should receive the vaccine first.

“Then you have to start to tier from there, based on the countries and the populations,” Gates continued. “Here in the United States, it’s going to be black people who really should get it first and many indigenous people"

Just go to bed :lol

That's because the CDC itself points out that the highest increased risk of hospitalization due to social inequities go to Indigenous and non-Hispanic Black people:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/need-extra-precautions/racial-ethnic-minorities.html

So you can sleep easy. Despite not seeing color, this isn't a racial issue, at all.

[DMC]

That's because the CDC itself points out that the highest increased risk of hospitalization due to social inequities go to Indigenous and non-Hispanic Black people:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/need-extra-precautions/racial-ethnic-minorities.html

So you can sleep easy. Despite not seeing color, this isn't a racial issue, at all.

Profiling based on stats good now.

[boutons_deux]

Gilead sets price of coronavirus drug remdesivir at $3,120 as Trump administration secures supply for 500,000 patients
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/06/29/gilead-sciences-remdesivir-cost-coronavirus (https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/06/29/gilead-sciences-remdesivir-cost-coronavirus/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9. eyJjb29raWVuYW1lIjoid3BfY3J0aWQiLCJpc3MiOiJDYXJ0YS IsImNvb2tpZXZhbHVlIjoiNTk3NDBkYjNhZGU0ZTIxYTg0OTNm ZGFlIiwidGFnIjoiNWVmYTUwMjNmZTFmZjY0ODJkYjAwZDBkIi widXJsIjoiaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cud2FzaGluZ3RvbnBvc3QuY29t L2J1c2luZXNzLzIwMjAvMDYvMjkvZ2lsZWFkLXNjaWVuY2VzLX JlbWRlc2l2aXItY29zdC1jb3JvbmF2aXJ1cy8_dXRtX2NhbXBh aWduPXdwX3RvX3lvdXJfaGVhbHRoJnV0bV9tZWRpdW09ZW1haW wmdXRtX3NvdXJjZT1uZXdzbGV0dGVyJndwaXNyYz1ubF90eWgm d3Btaz0xIn0.pmgMTjeiSq_0zbP9A3uni0sm8ywz-PFwuGdSFPn47dw&utm_campaign=wp_to_your_health&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_tyh&wpmk=1)

[ElNono]

Profiling based on stats good now.

???? when was it not done?

[tholdren]

Ifr less than flu. Except for those who drive up the ifr for flu. Strange

Texas and fl ifr. Less than flu. Thanks for hanging in there all these months ChumpDumper. Lol

[boutons_deux]

https://www.cdn-liker.com/uploads/large_images/5efa997b3511e.jpg

[tholdren]

Ifr plummeted.. again....

[slick'81]

Oh joy, a brand new mutation of the swine flu has been found in china and has already proven to jump from pigs to humans.current flu vaccines are ineffective. Lets hope this one doesnt get out of control or else usa is doa

[TimDunkem]

Oh joy, a brand new mutation of the swine flu has been found in china and has already proven to jump from pigs to humans.current flu vaccines are ineffective. Lets hope this one doesnt get out of control or else usa is doa

Just hurry up and end our empire already. Smh

[tholdren]

Just hurry up and end our empire already. Smh

you lied about having the virus

[tholdren]

Nobel-prize winning scientists, provided Stanford biophysicist and Nobel Laureate Michael Levitt with a platform to vent his fury over the global scientific community’s flawed response to the Covid-19 pandemic, as he saw it.

In particular, he condemned Imperial College’s Neil Ferguson for failing to respond to his emails at the height of the crisis. He said that a flawed response had caused hundreds of billions of dollars’ worth of suffering and damage, that had disproportionately affected a younger generation, and which would not substantially alter the ultimate death toll.

[pgardn]

Scientist who does not believe in evolution.

https://www.aaas.org/part-i-i-dont-believe-evolution

Has he got a better model based on evidence?
NO.

there are plenty of gadfly "scientists" who want attention.
YOu should get to know them and follow them on Utube like the GreatPlot.

[pgardn]

Nobel-prize winning scientists, provided Stanford biophysicist and Nobel Laureate Michael Levitt with a platform to vent his fury over the global scientific community’s flawed response to the Covid-19 pandemic, as he saw it.

In particular, he condemned Imperial College’s Neil Ferguson for failing to respond to his emails at the height of the crisis. He said that a flawed response had caused hundreds of billions of dollars’ worth of suffering and damage, that had disproportionately affected a younger generation, and which would not substantially alter the ultimate death toll.

Nobel Prize in Chemistry.
There was a Nobel Prize winner in physics who claimed blacks were dumb at reasoning in math. He said brain anatomy suggested it. When confronted he backed down as was basically laughed at, another reason to STAY in your lane. Ie what you actually research. Suggest, but dont lie if you want to help. And if you lie or show yourself out of your league via emails, you get shunned, people who actually work on this stuff dont have time for you after you make a fool of yourself multiple times.

This should be especially familiar to you.

[boutons_deux]

Two Friends in Texas Were Tested for Coronavirus.

One Bill Was $199.

The Other? $6,408.

It’s an example of the unpredictable way health prices can vary for patients who receive identical care.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/29/upshot/coronavirus-tests-unpredictable-prices.html

[spurraider21]

???? when was it not done?
You think he wants to add to the conversation? :lmao

[spurraider21]

Scientist who does not believe in evolution.

https://www.aaas.org/part-i-i-dont-believe-evolution

Has he got a better model based on evidence?
NO.

there are plenty of gadfly "scientists" who want attention.
YOu should get to know them and follow them on Utube like the GreatPlot.
Hm. Did you read that article? He clearly believes in evolution

[RandomGuy]

Scientist who does not believe in evolution.

https://www.aaas.org/part-i-i-dont-believe-evolution

Has he got a better model based on evidence?
NO.

there are plenty of gadfly "scientists" who want attention.
YOu should get to know them and follow them on Utube like the GreatPlot.

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=285243&page=40&p=10183167&viewfull=1#post10183167

[DarrinS]

Nobel Prize in Chemistry.
There was a Nobel Prize winner in physics who claimed blacks were dumb at reasoning in math. He said brain anatomy suggested it. When confronted he backed down as was basically laughed at, another reason to STAY in your lane. Ie what you actually research. Suggest, but dont lie if you want to help. And if you lie or show yourself out of your league via emails, you get shunned, people who actually work on this stuff dont have time for you after you make a fool of yourself multiple times.

This should be especially familiar to you.


There are a lot of non-epidemiologists working on modeling covid-19. I don't see that as a problem. I would judge a model on how well it predicts reality. In that regard, Neil Ferguson's model was terrible.

People have no problem repeatedly citing the rt.live model by the founder of Instagram.

[TSA]

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=285243&page=40&p=10183167&viewfull=1#post10183167

Linking to your post that links to E-patients Dave's blog :rollin

[tholdren]

There are a lot of non-epidemiologists working on modeling covid-19. I don't see that as a problem. I would judge a model on how well it predicts reality. In that regard, Neil Ferguson's model was terrible.

People have no problem repeatedly citing the rt.live model by the founder of Instagram.

Randomguy says you can only be an epidemiologist to make covid comments. Yet here he is.

And neil furgusons model has been disproven by many epidemiologists and non epidemiologists alike.

And RandomGuy gave his calculation that hospitals in Texas would be over capacity.

Hows that working out?

[boutons_deux]

Popular San Antonio and Austin outdoor areas closed for Fourth of July weekend


https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/slideshow/Here-s-are-the-lakes-river-parks-and-outdoor-204580.php?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mysa_afternoonheadlines&utm_content=news&stn=nf

Padre Island also closed

[tholdren]

Popular San Antonio and Austin outdoor areas closed for Fourth of July weekend


https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/slideshow/Here-s-are-the-lakes-river-parks-and-outdoor-204580.php?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mysa_afternoonheadlines&utm_content=news&stn=nf

Padre Island also closed

because of...

[pgardn]

There are a lot of non-epidemiologists working on modeling covid-19. I don't see that as a problem. I would judge a model on how well it predicts reality. In that regard, Neil Ferguson's model was terrible.

People have no problem repeatedly citing the rt.live model by the founder of Instagram.

Its a problem when they get in the way of people who know what they are doing, even if they miss on modeling.
You dont throw the baby out with the bathwater. If you would rather have a chemist in charge of modeling just say so. And yes it can hurt because we have no leadership from our president on a national level. Its ok for anyone and everyone to be disingenuous now. Sad.

[tholdren]

Its a problem when they get in the way of people who know what they are doing, even if they miss on modeling.
You dont throw the baby out with the bathwater. If you would rather have a chemist in charge of modeling just say so. And yes it can hurt because we have no leadership from our president on a national level. Its ok for anyone and everyone to be disingenuous now. Sad.
LI lololol wrong


Completely illogical and incoherent response

[pgardn]

LI lololol wrong


Completely illogical and incoherent response

You cant follow, so dont read it.
Specify what you dont understand.
I probably cant help you, but I have made jellyfish behave so maybe there is a chance?

[ChumpDumper]

LI lololol wrong


Completely illogical and incoherent responseYou've been shopping for epidemiologists for months.

[tholdren]

You cant follow, so dont read it.
Specify what you dont understand.
I probably cant help you, but I have made jellyfish behave so maybe there is a chance?

Right cant follow becasue its an ignorant attempt of explaining.

[pgardn]

Right cant follow becasue its an ignorant attempt of explaining.

You cant follow because you are stupid.
The federal response to this thing by the orange guy is a cluster fck.
so anyone, including you, can say anything and be believed because you and our president can lie quite casually.
Fact.

[boutons_deux]

"People have no problem repeatedly citing the rt.live model by the founder of Instagram."

LOL

What's wrong about rt.live?

It clearly agrees with other data sites that show Repug/red/Confederate states leading the USA into masochistic, long-lasting pandemic hell.

[tholdren]

You cant follow because you are stupid.
The federal response to this thing by the orange guy is a cluster fck.
so anyone, including you, can say anything and be believed because you and our president can lie quite casually.
Fact.

bwahahahhahahahahahaha you are not good at math. Now blaming 1 person for global crisis. Gossip to yhe max

[pgardn]

bwahahahhahahahahahaha you are not good at math. Now blaming 1 person for global crisis. Gossip to yhe max

You were given a simple math problem and got it utterly wrong.
You cant read graphs.

Mild flu... sure.

[tholdren]

You were given a simple math problem and got it utterly wrong.
You cant read graphs.

Mild flu... sure.

beahahahhahahahah another gossip lie

[pgardn]

beahahahhahahahah another gossip lie

liar

[tholdren]

liar

Pgardn gossiped himself into a corner. And now he's ChumpDumper status with the squirm

[ChumpDumper]

th:lolldren melting down in multiple threads

[hater]

:lmao dear dr facci says US can reach 100,000 DAILY infections :lmao

[pgardn]

:lmao dear dr facci says US can reach 100,000 DAILY infections :lmao

Well who let him back in the news?

I thought he was supposed to shut up; make sure this a mild flu

[InRareForm]

Newsom to announce restrictions tommorow

[tholdren]

Well who let him back in the news?

I thought he was supposed to shut up; make sure this a mild flu
Better hide now. He also warned about another pandemic....

[boutons_deux]

this drug reduces death of C19 ARDS victims by 20% - 30%

https://www.cdn-liker.com/uploads/large_images/5efbe879a7121.jpg

the drug cost $0000.10 to produce

[TimDunkem]

If a 40 athlete can go on a vent after contracting COVID and the flu at once then I wonder what the rest of America is going to look like come fall when flu season starts.


https://youtu.be/nCCzk-7_zAc

[ElNono]

Here's a pretty accurate chart, tbh...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbvH-VFWkAAKlTP?format=jpg&name=large

[hater]

Here's a pretty accurate chart, tbh...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbvH-VFWkAAKlTP?format=jpg&name=large

:lol

[boutons_deux]

The CDC surrenders:

COVID-19 spreading too rapidly to be brought under control

principal deputy director of the CDC, Dr. Anne Schuchat.

“We’re not in the situation of New Zealand or Singapore or Korea

where a new case is rapidly identified and

all the contacts are traced and

people are isolated who are sick and people who are exposed are quarantined and

they can keep things under control,” said Schuchat.

“We have way too much virus across the country for that right now, so it’s very discouraging.”

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/6/30/1957125/-The-CDC-surrenders-COVID-19-spreading-too-rapidly-to-be-brought-under-control?detail=emaildkre (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/6/30/1957125/-The-CDC-surrenders-COVID-19-spreading-too-rapidly-to-be-brought-under-control?detail=emaildkre)

100Ks MORE damaged and dead C19 victims, as the social and economic disaster of

The Trump/Repug Pandemic deepens and lengthens.

How does that Repug MISgovernment taste now, you rightwingnutjob Trash fellators?

[boutons_deux]

https://images.dailykos.com/images/826051/story_image/maskless915.png?1593503656

[boutons_deux]

Coronavirus autopsies: A story of 38 brains, 87 lungs and 42 hearts

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/07/01/coronavir​us-autopsies-findings (https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/07/01/coronavirus-autopsies-findings/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most)

[TimDunkem]

Death rate seems to be rising in Arizona, tbh, fwiw

[Blake]

https://images.dailykos.com/images/826051/story_image/maskless915.png?1593503656

At least two of those are here posting on a daily basis

[Trill Clinton]

https://66.media.tumblr.com/4f8293443285201986500ab427bef8bf/1029005f8b1223df-f1/s500x750/c20813d04759251447faaa9ab2e6b1b49423940b.png

[Blake]

Death rate seems to be rising in Arizona, tbh, fwiw

YEAH BUT TEXAS THO

[TimDunkem]

YEAH BUT TEXAS THO

ALL THESE NEW CASES FROM YESTERDAY ARE STILL ALIVE. NO WORRIES JUST THE FLU. I'VE BEEN HEARING IT FROM MY FRIENDS DISCUSSING IT OUTSIDE MY GATED POOL.

[ElNono]

Testing czar says coronavirus surge is straining testing capacity

Brett Giroir, the coronavirus testing czar, said Wednesday that the United States' coronavirus testing capacity is at risk of being overwhelmed in some states by a surge in new infections and increased surveillance efforts in nursing homes and jails.

“It is absolutely correct that some labs across the country are reaching or near capacity,” Giroir said. “Recent data from several states indicate rising infections and now an uptick in hospitalizations and death, even as other states and the great majority of counties are maintaining a low infection burden."

The percentage of people testing positive has spiked in recent days in several states — including Arizona, Florida and Texas. That's a sign that the virus is spreading rapidly.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/01/giroir-coronavirus-surge-straining-testing-capacity-347109

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ugh

[TimDunkem]

Testing czar says coronavirus surge is straining testing capacity

Brett Giroir, the coronavirus testing czar, said Wednesday that the United States' coronavirus testing capacity is at risk of being overwhelmed in some states by a surge in new infections and increased surveillance efforts in nursing homes and jails.

“It is absolutely correct that some labs across the country are reaching or near capacity,” Giroir said. “Recent data from several states indicate rising infections and now an uptick in hospitalizations and death, even as other states and the great majority of counties are maintaining a low infection burden."

The percentage of people testing positive has spiked in recent days in several states — including Arizona, Florida and Texas. That's a sign that the virus is spreading rapidly.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/01/giroir-coronavirus-surge-straining-testing-capacity-347109

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ugh
Just the flu, hospitalizations flat, etc etc.

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/106380013_150316836631325_8535910391640228370_n.pn g?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=zClnDMmm0ZwAX9fwFIE&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=4b97bf576d671ed062c74be0ac38d8b3&oe=5F23A65A

[boutons_deux]

Trash always stepping in the right direction

Trump Admin Scales Back Mandate That Health Insurers Cover COVID Tests

the Trump administration has moved to place limits on who insurers are required to cover COVID-19 tests for.

CMS said that insurers no longer have to cover COVID-19 testing when employers mandate a test before an employee can return to work, or

when someone is tested as part of a public health surveillance program.

the Trump administration has failed to put the weight of the federal government behind scaling up widespread COVID-19 testing, handing that task to state and local governments with minimal contributions (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/trump-covid-testing-pharmacy-hhs) from the feds.

as indicative of a bungled federal response to the pandemic — and, specifically, to providing testing capacity — leaving CMS to sort out questions of health insurance policy that are ill-suited to the public health needs of a national pandemic.

Through two laws,

Congress mandated at the start of the outbreak that health insurers would fully cover COVID-19 tests — with no copays.

But the mandate came with no additional government support attached, requiring insurance companies to foot the bill for at least part of the national testing plan.

“The statue says insurance companies have to pay, period — you can debate whether you think its good policy, but that’s the statute,”

“But if you have to get a test to go back to work, or are subject to community-wide testing, or you don’t have any symptoms

— you want to get a test because maybe you want your kid to get a test to go to summer camp or you’re traveling and you want to get a test before you go —

insurance companies would not be required to cover in those circumstances,”

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/trump-admin-scales-back-mandate-that-health-insurers-cover-covid-tests?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20tpm-news%20%28TPMNews%29 (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/trump-admin-scales-back-mandate-that-health-insurers-cover-covid-tests?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20tpm-news%20%28TPMNews%29)


============================

Is COVID-19 Testing Free? One Very Important Thing To Know

There are usually three steps you need to go through to get a test result, each carries a separate charge to you or your insurance.



Most of the time, you will need an initial screening which could be done virtually via telemedicine.
If determined appropriate, you will be directed to a clinic or drive through where you will be swabbed or get blood drawn.
Your sample will be sent to a lab, where it gets analyzed to determine if you are positive or negative



Because there are three steps, there are three separate charges that will occur. According to major insurance carriers' websites, the screening and clinic visit are free, but

the lab cost depends on your insurance policy.

We did an independent study to verify this and found

a wide range of scenarios where the patient was charge $100 by the lab or up to $2300.

https://www.talktomira.com/post/how-much-does-coronavirus-covid-19-testing-cost-with-or-without-insurance

[hater]

Just the flu, hospitalizations flat, etc etc.

A shot of lysol every day keeps the bug away

[pgardn]

https://66.media.tumblr.com/4f8293443285201986500ab427bef8bf/1029005f8b1223df-f1/s500x750/c20813d04759251447faaa9ab2e6b1b49423940b.png

Oh just wait for the bill for all these people who had to go in.
And taxpayers in SA wait till Bexar County Hosp charges you.
You will then realize how the promises of the orange God to fix health care with the biggest bestest plan that never was... was never funny.

[pgardn]

A shot of lysol every day keeps the bug away

If you had not called it, you would be right in along with the rest of them drinking the chlorox.

[SnakeBoy]

Such doom & gloom in this thread. Let's try to be optimistic.

Assuming actual cases is 20x confirmed cases and deaths is reasonably accurate, we only have ~500k deaths to go before the US can move on from the covid era.

So cheer up people.

[pgardn]

Such doom & gloom in this thread. Let's try to be optimistic.

Assuming actual cases is 20x confirmed cases and deaths is reasonably accurate, we only have ~500k deaths to go before the US can move on from the covid era.

So cheer up people.

K

The Saharan dust is causing a lot of allergies in people.
Doctors are suggesting that people with these allergies wear MASKS!

Christ almighty always trying to keep us down!
I wonder when doctors doing surgery will refuse to wear them[ its impinging on their rights and they dont even know it.