Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

[TimDunkem]

Another one of my uncles is in the VA hospital right now with COVID. This is the second time he's had it but he wasn't really too bothered by it the first time. Now, he's receiving oxygen. SMH

[hater]

Nope.

You're free to run your own equation to prove vaccines don't work.

You will fold..



Let's make it really simple for you.

You have 100 old Israelis.

90 are vaccinated.

10 are not.

3 of the vaccinated group die.

2 of the unvaccinated group die.

More vaccinated old Israelis died so vaccines don't work, right?

20% of the unvaccinated died.

3% of the vaccinated died.

So vaccines don't work, right?

You keep comparing vs unvaccinated. Also keep using # including infected and NOT infected. Thats your 2 big mistakes.

Lets say they tell us a vaccine works at 95% efficacy and prevents deaths at 100%. Then. All of a sudden vaccinated start getting sick, hospitalized some even dying. That tells us the vaccines failed.

Or what is the explanation?

Darrin is right we need to use the % of vaccinated.that were INFECTED.to see how badly these vaccines are.failing.

For example we have 100 israelis fully vaccinated. 30 got INFECTED. 20 got hospitalized. That gives us efficacy at preventing illness at 33% far cry from.the promised 95%


Remember the survival rate WITHOUT vaccines is already 96% for elder. So most important is to find out the vaccine efficacy at PREVENTING ILLNESS AND/OR HOSPITALIZATION.

[hater]

Another one of my uncles is in the VA hospital right now with COVID. This is the second time he's had it but he wasn't really too bothered by it the first time. Now, he's receiving oxygen. SMH

Vaxed?

[boutons_deux]

Biden too, for that matter




not the same matter. The media certainly, gratuitously trash Biden for implementing Trash's fucked up agreement.

The press also played a huge role in "manufacturing consent" to go and stay in Afghanistan and Iraq.

[ChumpDumper]

You keep comparing vs unvaccinated. Also keep using # including infected and NOT infected. Thats your 2 big mistakes.

Lets say they tell us a vaccine works at 95% efficacy and prevents deaths at 100%. Then. All of a sudden vaccinated start getting sick, hospitalized some even dying. That tells us the vaccines failed.

Or what is the explanation?

Darrin is right we need to use the % of vaccinated.that were INFECTED.to see how badly these vaccines are.failing.

For example we have 100 israelis fully vaccinated. 30 got INFECTED. 20 got hospitalized. That gives us efficacy at preventing illness at 33% far cry from.the promised 95%


Remember the survival rate WITHOUT vaccines is already 96% for elder. So most important is to find out the vaccine efficacy at PREVENTING ILLNESS AND/OR HOSPITALIZATION.So you want to move the goalposts.

OK, show me your numbers.

Also show the infected/uninfected numbers for everyone who WASN'T tested. See how that's going to go nowhere? Testing has never been consistent nor complete enough to be reliable at all.

Show your numbers.

You and Darrin are destined to fold, so get on with it.

[TimDunkem]

Vaxed?
He caught the original strain, got better, got vaxxed in Jan, caught it again recently. Obviously that's the length of time before immunity wanes. He's also in his 60s with diabetes like my other uncle who just died.

[hater]

He caught the original strain, got better, got vaxxed in Jan, caught it again recently. Obviously that's the length of time before immunity wanes. He's also in his 60s with diabetes like my other uncle who just died.

Wow sucks.

[ChumpDumper]

You keep comparing vs unvaccinated. Also keep using # including infected and NOT infected. Thats your 2 big mistakes.

Lets say they tell us a vaccine works at 95% efficacy and prevents deaths at 100%. Then. All of a sudden vaccinated start getting sick, hospitalized some even dying. That tells us the vaccines failed.If you're still six times less likely to die compared to being unvaccinated, how is that a failure?

Explain yourself.

Still waiting for your numbers. If you're going to fold just say so. We all know it's coming.

[ChumpDumper]

He's acting like vaccinated people die at a higher rate than antivaxxers. :lol

Vaccines are proving they save lifes. :lol:lol they're just pouting at this point.

Wr:cryng den:cryminat:cryr! You need to use a number that can't possibly be known! I will now back up my contention by folding!

[SnakeBoy]

We'll probably just get a different Republican governor, but Greg Abbott's horrible pandemic policies could wreck Greg Abbott.

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A lot of right wingers disapprove of Abbott's pandemic policies. They think he has been too restrictive, just another rino. They're hoping for a Governor Allen West.

[SnakeBoy]

Another one of my uncles is in the VA hospital right now with COVID. This is the second time he's had it but he wasn't really too bothered by it the first time. Now, he's receiving oxygen. SMH

How old is he?

[steak n eggs]

Is there a scoreboard for this "folding"/"not folding" game? Or does everyone get a trophy? And are there orange slices with Capri Sun after the game? So many questions.

[TimDunkem]

How old is he?

Embarrassed to say I was wrong earlier when I mentioned he was in his 60s. Now that I think about it, he was in his 20s when he served in Vietnam so he must be in his 70s by now.

[hater]

If you're still six times less likely to die compared to being unvaccinated, how is that a failure?

Explain yourself.

Still waiting for your numbers. If you're going to fold just say so. We all know it's coming.

Ive been saying vaccines reduce hospitalization and mortality for months. They do. But the corporate chant that they afe the key 5o solving the pandemic is dead. Based on Israel data, they are currently 40% effective at avoiding illness and hospitalization especially on over 60.yr.old.

So if.sti 40% all our over 60 year olds still.go to the hospital. Thats still gonna overwhelm them.

Vaccines as.touted do not solve the fundamental issue of covid. Its time to fqce the reality.

[ChumpDumper]

https://c.tenor.com/BzdybKbJj7gAAAAd/moving-goalpost.gif
Still waiting on your den:cryminat:cryr.

[SnakeBoy]

Embarrassed to say I was wrong earlier when I mentioned he was in his 60s. Now that I think about it, he was in his 20s when he served in Vietnam so he must be in his 70s by now.

Thanks. I was asking for selfish reasons since I too had covid then got vaxxed but I'm only 54.

It does seem that in the older population at least the vaccines are losing their effectiveness against severe disease. I wonder if the older folks aren't making a good memory b & t cell response.

[SnakeBoy]

Ive been saying vaccines reduce hospitalization and mortality for months. They do. But the corporate chant that they afe the key 5o solving the pandemic is dead. Based on Israel data, they are currently 40% effective at avoiding illness and hospitalization especially on over 60.yr.old.

So if.sti 40% all our over 60 year olds still.go to the hospital. Thats still gonna overwhelm them.

Vaccines as.touted do not solve the fundamental issue of covid. Its time to fqce the reality.

That seems to be the bottom line tbh. Repeated infection is going to be required before it is "just a cold". Being the bitch that she is, Mother Nature will get her pound of flesh.

[boutons_deux]

60 NYPD cops killed by covid, cop Union there and elsewhere refusing vaccine mandates

Labor unions vs. vaccine mandates: The workers drawing a line in the COVID battle

https://www.rawstory.com/media-library/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpbWFnZSI6I mh0dHBzOi8vYXNzZXRzLnJibC5tcy8yNzM4OTQ1MS9vcmlnaW4 uanBnIiwiZXhwaXJlc19hdCI6MTY2NTYxMTUyMH0.dTD6lkYni 6Q5N7Jeb7h8Dtd7nemz-WT8Pvcd5B12NDM/image.jpg?width=1200&height=655

The head of the Fraternal Order of Police, which represents some 355,000 members, recently compared vaccine mandates to Nazi Germany

We're in America, Goddamn it," union president John Catanzara told (https://chicago.suntimes.com/city-hall/2021/8/25/22641495/chicago-coronavirus-vaccine-mandate-october-15-city-employees-police-unions-lightfoot-catanzara) the Sun-Times.

"We don't want to be forced to do anything. Period.

This ain't Nazi fucking Germany, [where they say],

'Step into the fucking showers. The pills won't hurt you.'

What the fuck?"

"Nobody knows what the long term side effects could possibly be," he added.

"Nobody. And anybody who says they do are full of shit."

https://www.rawstory.com/vaccine-mandates

(https://share.flipboard.com/bookmarklet/popout?v=2&url=https://www.rawstory.com/vaccine-mandates/)

[boutons_deux]

Fox News host blasted for 'obscene' push for counterfeit vaccine cards

Tucker Carlson defending faking vaccination cards after Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance, Jr. charged (https://www.manhattanda.org/d-a-vance-announces-takedown-of-fake-covid-19-vaccination-card-conspiracy/) fifteen people for a "fake COVID-19 vaccination card conspiracy" which allegedly included fraudulently entering individuals into the New York State Immunization Information System.

https://www.rawstory.com/tucker-carlson-vaccination-cards

Isn't there a law against telling people to break the law?

Carlson held accountable?

Fuck Carlson, Fuck Fox, Fuck the Murdochs

[ChumpDumper]

Ive been saying vaccines reduce hospitalization and mortality for months. They do. But the corporate chant that they afe the key 5o solving the pandemic is dead. Based on Israel data, they are currently 40% effective at avoiding illness and hospitalization especially on over 60.yr.old.

So if.sti 40% all our over 60 year olds still.go to the hospital. Thats still gonna overwhelm them.

Vaccines as.touted do not solve the fundamental issue of covid. Its time to fqce the reality.
As of August 16, the ministry recorded 159 severe COVID-19 cases per 100,000 people among the unvaccinated over the age of 60, compared to 20 per 100,000 people among the fully vaccinated. This makes the unvaccinated elderly more than eight times as likely to experience a severe case than their immunized counterparts.

For those under the age of 60, the rate of severe illness among the unvaccinated stood at 2.4 cases per 100,000 people – 2.7 times more than the 0.9 per 100,000 among those who are fully vaccinated.


https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-covid-graphs-prove-vaccines-works-delta-pfizer-1.10101640

Still waiting for your numbers. Do you need a new denominator?

[SnakeBoy]

whinehole

6 Tips For Coping With COVID Anxiety This Fall And Winter
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/09/04/1033672045/6-tips-for-coping-with-covid-anxiety-this-fall-and-winter

[hater]

As of August 16, the ministry recorded 159 severe COVID-19 cases per 100,000 people among the unvaccinated over the age of 60, compared to 20 per 100,000 people among the fully vaccinated. This makes the unvaccinated elderly more than eight times as likely to experience a severe case than their immunized counterparts.

For those under the age of 60, the rate of severe illness among the unvaccinated stood at 2.4 cases per 100,000 people – 2.7 times more than the 0.9 per 100,000 among those who are fully vaccinated.


https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-covid-graphs-prove-vaccines-works-delta-pfizer-1.10101640

Still waiting for your numbers. Do you need a new denominator?

U Still missing d point.

Use INFECTED not whole population

[hater]

That seems to be the bottom line tbh. Repeated infection is going to be required before it is "just a cold". Being the bitch that she is, Mother Nature will get her pound of flesh.

Yup

[ChumpDumper]

U Still missing d point.

Use INFECTED not whole populationYou use it.

Let's see your numbers that prove whatever point you failed to make.

Make sure they are complete and accurate.

Why are you folding?

[hater]

You use it.

Let's see your numbers that prove whatever point you failed to make.

Make sure they are complete and accurate.

Why are you folding?

Keep in mind Pfizer touted 95% efficacy to illness. They defined illness as fever and another symptom such as coug, headache, etc.

That was the promise.

Turns out the reality is:

Israel says Pfizer Covid vaccine is just 39% effective as delta spreads


https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/23/delta-variant-pfizer-covid-vaccine-39percent-effective-in-israel-prevents-severe-illness.html


Those are.the facts.


Now vaxtards moved the goalpost saying "well it does prevent death and hospitalization"

Seeing that at least 1/2.the dead are vaxed now, thus my question.

Wtf?

[ChumpDumper]

Keep in mind Pfizer touted 95% efficacy to illness. They defined illness as fever and another symptom such as coug, headache, etc.

That was the promise.

Turns out the reality is:

Israel says Pfizer Covid vaccine is just 39% effective as delta spreads


https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/23/delta-variant-pfizer-covid-vaccine-39percent-effective-in-israel-prevents-severe-illness.html


Those are.the facts.


Now vaxtards moved the goalpost saying "well it does prevent death and hospitalization"

Seeing that at least 1/2.the dead are vaxed now, thus my question.

Wtf?

:lol from your own link:

The two-dose vaccine still works very well in preventing people from getting seriously sick, demonstrating 88% effectiveness against hospitalization and 91% effectiveness against severe illness, according to the Israeli data.

Add this to the numbers from your earlier tweet:

The unvaxxed are dying at ~5-6 times the rate of the vaccinated according to your numbers posted compared to the overall vaccinated and unvaccinated 60+ populations in Israel.

You just proved vaccines prevent deaths.:tu

Again, how is this a failure?

I will ask you one question:

Say you're 60. Here is a vaccine that will make you six times less likely to die of a highly transmissible disease.

Do you take it?

Yes or no.

[Adam Lambert]

Seeing that at least 1/2.the dead are vaxed now, thus my question.

Wtf?

Huh?

[ChumpDumper]

Huh?The thing is 80% of old Israeli COVID deaths in a time period could be among the vaccinated and it's STILL a better result than not being vaccinated.

That's what happens when 90% of the population is vaccinated. The numbers are that significant.

[ChumpDumper]

This blog post explains how cursory looks at headlines and maybe a single statistic make people like ST's resident vaccinated anti-vaxxers look stupid.

https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/israeli-data-how-can-efficacy-vs-severe-disease-be-strong-when-60-of-hospitalized-are-vaccinated

On the whole, these vaccines are still amazing.

Even in Israel.

[baseline bum]

This blog post explains how cursory looks at headlines and maybe a single statistic make people like ST's resident vaccinated anti-vaxxers look stupid.

https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/israeli-data-how-can-efficacy-vs-severe-disease-be-strong-when-60-of-hospitalized-are-vaccinated

On the whole, these vaccines are still amazing.

Even in Israel.

hater is just here to see the world burn, doesn't give a shit if his trolling is pushing antivax propaganda that gets good people killed because the lols are important.

[SnakeBoy]

hater is just here to see the world burn, doesn't give a shit if his trolling is pushing antivax propaganda that gets good people killed because the lols are important.

Only Trumpsters aren't vaxxed and it's good that they die is what I heard.


Failing Joe Biden is going to rack up more bodies with a vaccine then Trump did without a vaccine. It is what it is.

[Adam Lambert]

Only Trumpsters aren't vaxxed and it's good that they die is what I heard.


Failing Joe Biden is going to rack up more bodies with a vaccine then Trump did without a vaccine. It is what it is.

:tu

More merit-based deaths and I don't have to miss out on fun activities.

Covid under Joe is 100x better.

[Winehole23]

wuz bullshit

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[DMC]

:tu

More merit-based deaths and I don't have to miss out on fun activities.

Covid under Joe is 100x better.

COVID less deadly now

[spurraider21]

COVID less deadly now
https://c.tenor.com/w8w52oxGLTUAAAAM/unlimitedpower-power.gif

[ChumpDumper]

https://c.tenor.com/w8w52oxGLTUAAAAM/unlimitedpower-power.gif

:lmao

[Thread]

:tu

More merit-based deaths and I don't have to miss out on fun activities.

Covid under Joe is 100x better.

250k dead and still counting, son.

[Adam Lambert]

COVID less deadly now

For me and everyone I give a shit about? Yep!

[Thread]

For me and everyone I give a shit about? Yep!

That lets 400k of 'em offin' your hook. tee, hee.

[SnakeBoy]

This blog post explains how cursory looks at headlines and maybe a single statistic make people like ST's resident vaccinated anti-vaxxers look stupid.

https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/israeli-data-how-can-efficacy-vs-severe-disease-be-strong-when-60-of-hospitalized-are-vaccinated

On the whole, these vaccines are still amazing.

Even in Israel.

It's not surprising that you would turn to a blog post making a strawman argument. You ignored Hater saying that the vaccines work but not as well as they were initially advertised. That has become obvious and even your blogpost illustrates that fact. So lol "on the whole".

Bottom line is that if failing Joe Biden doesn't implement his secret plan to shutdown the virus soon he will rack up more bodies than Trump.

[ChumpDumper]

It's not surprising that you would turn to a blog post making a strawman argument. You ignored Hater saying that the vaccines work but not as well as they were initially advertised.:lol that was his goalpost move. His third goalpost move.

Sorry you backed another loser. It's not surprising. You're making it a habit.

:lol another ST vaccinated antivaxxer

:lol two time Trump voter

[DMC]

For me and everyone I give a shit about? Yep!

75% of COVID deaths in DC are blacks even though they are only 45% of the population.

But then you don't give a shit about them because BLM is only true when there's a more visible crowd to signal to.

[ChumpDumper]

DMC wants us to hold blacks down and forcibly vaccinate them.

:lol what is with you Trumptards these days? Did you finally realize Trump wasn't secretly inaugurated in March?

[Thread]

75% of COVID deaths in DC are blacks even though they are only 45% of the population.

But then you don't give a shit about them because BLM is only true when there's a more visible crowd to signal to.

D M C

[SnakeBoy]

Nice paper on excess deaths adjusted for population showing how lucky we got compared to 1918
https://elifesciences.org/articles/71974

https://i.ibb.co/7Y89wzn/Screenshot-2021-09-05-at-01-10-05-Mortality-A-comprehensive-look-at-the-COVID-19-pandemic-death-toll.png

[boutons_deux]

Coronavirus Mu variant discovered in the US

Some 167 cases of the Mu variant were discovered in Los Angeles, with 2,000 cases countrywide.

"This variant has a constellation of mutations that suggests that it would evade certain antibodies, not only monoclonal antibodies but vaccine and convalescent serum-induced antibodies," said Dr. Anthony Fauci in a video posted by the Washington Post.

"But there isn't a lot of clinical data to suggest that. It is mostly laboratory in-vitro data.

https://www.jpost.com/international/coronavirus-mu-variant-discovered-in-the-us-678751

[DarrinS]

Nope.

You're free to run your own equation to prove vaccines don't work.

You will fold..



Let's make it really simple for you.

You have 100 old Israelis.

90 are vaccinated.

10 are not.

3 of the vaccinated group die.

2 of the unvaccinated group die.

More vaccinated old Israelis died so vaccines don't work, right?

20% of the unvaccinated died.

3% of the vaccinated died.

So vaccines don't work, right?


Say 4 from each group are infected.

IFR vaccinated = 75%
IFR unvaccinated = 50%

You have 0% chance of dying from covid if uninfected.

[ChumpDumper]

Say 4 from each group are infected.

IFR vaccinated = 75%
IFR unvaccinated = 50%

You have 0% chance of dying from covid if uninfected.How do you know any given untested individual isn't infected?

[DarrinS]

How do you know any given untested individual isn't infected?

You don't.

If 100% of both groups are infected, then your numbers are correct.

In the Pfizer and Moderna trials, they had roughly equal sample sizes in treatment and placebo arms. Do you know why they do that?

[ChumpDumper]

You don't.Oh.

So you can't actually give a number of infected people. Your denominator doesn't exist.

How can't you use a number that doesn't exist?

Show your equation using your denominator that you admit you don't know.

[DarrinS]

Oh.

So you can't actually give a number of infected people. Your denominator doesn't exist.

How can't you use a number that doesn't exist?

Show your equation using your denominator that you admit you don't know.


You were wrong.

[Adam Lambert]

75% of COVID deaths in DC are blacks even though they are only 45% of the population.

But then you don't give a shit about them because BLM is only true when there's a more visible crowd to signal to.

lol trying to race bait and change the subject.

Black, white, Hispanic, Asian, whomever... If people are dying of Covid, I prefer for the ones who disregarded science to go first. The vaccine is colorblind, unlike police.

[Monostradamus]

COVID less deadly now


https://c.tenor.com/w8w52oxGLTUAAAAM/unlimitedpower-power.gif
:lmao

[hater]

You don't.

If 100% of both groups are infected, then your numbers are correct.

In the Pfizer and Moderna trials, they had roughly equal sample sizes in treatment and placebo arms. Do you know why they do that?

He doesnt :lol

[hater]

hater is just here to see the world burn, doesn't give a shit if his trolling is pushing antivax propaganda that gets good people killed because the lols are important.

:cry hater is q meanie and is killing folks :cry

[Winehole23]

^^^ what a creepy ghoul

[Winehole23]

The thing we bent the curve to prevent last year is happening now. People are dying of treatable conditions are receiving worse care because
mitigation impairs the lifestyle to which we've become accustomed.

Between convenience and mass death we've chosen mass death, or more accurately: that's what our political masters have chosen for us.


SC hospitals call in National Guard after unprecedented spike in ER coronavirus patients (https://apnews.com/article/business-health-coronavirus-pandemic-idaho-09941b507483a5c7b0183dcbf03a8254)

[Winehole23]

a broken health care system looks somewhat like this

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[hater]

:cry Im scared. Someone hold me :cry

[Winehole23]

the main US role at this point is incubate new variants, promote immune escape and prolong the pandemic

Mu Covid Variant: Los Angeles Officials Say First Cases Of New Strain Have Arrived (https://deadline.com/2021/09/mu-variant-los-angeles-first-cases-new-covid-1234827340/)

[Winehole23]

no one is scared of you, hater. you are kinda pathetic though.

[DMC]

lol trying to race bait and change the subject.

Black, white, Hispanic, Asian, whomever... If people are dying of Covid, I prefer for the ones who disregarded science to go first. The vaccine is colorblind, unlike police.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/core/lw/2.0/html/tileshop_pmc/tileshop_pmc_inline.html?title=Click%20on%20image% 20to%20zoom&p=PMC3&id=7691134_gr1_lrg.jpg

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7691134/

Are you sure about that?

[DMC]

a broken health care system looks somewhat like this

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Anyone but Trump

[ChumpDumper]

You were wrong.Then post the number of people who were infected but not tested in that time and their vaccination status.

I'll wait.

[Winehole23]

the closest ICUs are a five hour flight away

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[Winehole23]

Anyone but Trump:tu

[Winehole23]

From a few posts up. I include Sleepy Joe in this cohort.


Between inconvenience and mass death we've chosen mass death, or more accurately: that's what our political masters have chosen for us.

[Adam Lambert]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/core/lw/2.0/html/tileshop_pmc/tileshop_pmc_inline.html?title=Click%20on%20image% 20to%20zoom&p=PMC3&id=7691134_gr1_lrg.jpg

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7691134/

Are you sure about that?

I'm certain that you are far less likely to die of Covid if you're vaccinated, regardless of race. Let me know if you learn anything different from your links.

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-huzqpWQAUpZEG?format=jpg&name=large

[DMC]

^As long as they aren't people we give a shit about.

Can we get a death count of only people we give a shit about?

[Adam Lambert]

^As long as they aren't people we give a shit about.

Can we get a death count of only people we give a shit about?

It's substantially lower than people I don't give a shit about, as per my original statement. Are you following yet?

[Blake]

It's substantially lower than people I don't give a shit about, as per my original statement. Are you following yet?

He's certain you're contradicting yourself somehow. He doesn't know exactly how but he's certain.

[Winehole23]

He's certain you're contradicting yourself somehow. He doesn't know exactly how but he's certain.also, probably won't be back to put his graphs in context.

chickenshit DMC

[Adam Lambert]

He's certain you're contradicting yourself somehow. He doesn't know exactly how but he's certain.

Just more selective guilt-tripping to avoid directing any criticism towards the people he votes alongside whose actions and words have lead directly to deaths.

Being glad that anti-vaxxers are dying hasn't killed anyone.
Being an anti-vaxxer has.

[DMC]

I'm certain that you are far less likely to die of Covid if you're vaccinated, regardless of race. Let me know if you learn anything different from your links.

You just moved the goalpost a third time :lol

[Winehole23]

New Zealand, still managing an allegedly unmanageable pandemic.

(NSW just gave up for some reason. Why they would do that before vaccinating a really big chunk of the populace boggles, given the sacrifices already made.)

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[DMC]

Just more selective guilt-tripping to avoid directing any criticism towards the people he votes alongside whose actions and words have lead directly to deaths.

Being glad that anti-vaxxers are dying hasn't killed anyone.
Being an anti-vaxxer has.

https://twitter.com/CDCgov/status/1233134710638825473?s=20

[DMC]

New Zealand, still managing an allegedly unmanageable pandemic.

(NSW just gave up for some reason. Why they would do that before vaccinating a really big chunk of the populace boggles, given the sacrifices already made.)

1434481496933507072

:lol so many of you still not understanding the correlation between testing regimen and "new cases". You think there's some real time read backs on all humans that the countries have to know when the virus is more active, and you seem to totally discount the testing regimens themselves.

[ChumpDumper]

DMC yells at cloud.

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/CDCgov/status/1233134710638825473?s=20

No idea what passive aggressive message you're trying to send here.

[DMC]

^:lol still on ignore, still responding and quoting. Nary a return ping

"bot like behavior"

Certainly explains the concerns about COVID.

[ChumpDumper]

^:lol still on ignore, still responding and quoting. Nary a return ping

"bot like behavior"

Certainly explains the concerns about COVID.:lol replying every time, still furious I pantsed you on your 6th grade word usage error.

Certainly explains your attempts at playing a tough guy.

[baseline bum]

:cry hater is q meanie and is killing folks :cry

You know vaccination is the biggest thing people can do to protect themselves yet you come here constantly making bad faith arguments about the vaccines. I don't know why you get off on feeding people misinformation about life and death choices. It's disgusting.

[Winehole23]

:lol replying every time, still furious I pantsed you on your 6th grade word usage error.

Certainly explains your attempts at playing a tough guy.carries petty grudges forever, hoping for a comeback

[baseline bum]

New Zealand, still managing an allegedly unmanageable pandemic.

(NSW just gave up for some reason. Why they would do that before vaccinating a really big chunk of the populace boggles, given the sacrifices already made.)

1434481496933507072

:cry but they're an island :cry

Nevermind that COVID came here from over the oceans too, eg Washington getting infected from Wuhan and New York getting infected from Italy.

[ChumpDumper]

carries petty grudges forever, hoping for a comeback:lol he knows he will never make a comeback from getting imply/infer wrong more than once. He worked for years trying to build an unflappable galaxy brain rep here and I completely destroyed that by teaching him something he should've learned in elementary school.

His ego will never let him engage me again for the rest of his life. That's fucking hilarious.:tu

[hater]

It's substantially lower than people I don't give a shit about, as per my original statement. Are you following yet?

Lol cheering deaths

[hater]

You know vaccination is the biggest thing people can do to protect themselves yet you come here constantly making bad faith arguments about the vaccines. I don't know why you get off on feeding people misinformation about life and death choices. It's disgusting.

Lol while u cheering Trump rednecks dying. They are the victims of disinformation.

Hypocrite

How is saying the vaccines failed based.on Israel.data.disinformation?????

Can u quote one post I made saying old and sick should NOT.get the vaccine?

Anyone over 35 should IMO.

Young and healthy can choose as it does not help them.one bit.

[DMC]

Lol cheering deaths

No it's your fault. It's ok to cheer deaths but if you provide a counter-viewpoint, you're disgusting.

[baseline bum]

Lol while u cheering Trump rednecks dying. They are the victims of disinformation.

Hypocrite

How is saying the vaccines failed based.on Israel.data.disinformation?????

Can u quote one post I made saying old and sick should NOT.get the vaccine?

Anyone over 35 should IMO.

Young and healthy can choose as it does not help them.one bit.

LOL vaccines have failed but everyone should get one.

[DMC]

LOL vaccines have failed but everyone should get one.

Not republicans obviously, they all deserve to die.

[baseline bum]

No it's your fault. It's ok to cheer deaths but if you provide a counter-viewpoint, you're disgusting.

His viewpoint is vaccines have failed but everyone over 35 should get one.

[Winehole23]

same old two faced hater :lol

[ChumpDumper]

How is saying the vaccines failed based.on Israel.data.disinformation?????Because they didn't fail.

[baseline bum]

same old two faced hater :lol

And DerpMC too

[ChumpDumper]

His viewpoint is vaccines have failed but everyone over 35 should get one.What else could you possibly expect from a fully vaccinated antivaxxer?

[DMC]

His viewpoint is vaccines have failed but everyone over 35 should get one.

Some vaccines have failed to protect the vaccinated, there are many breakthrough infections and deaths of vaccinated people. However the odds of dying once vaccinated are significantly lower than the odds of dying if you aren't, given that neither group is infected at the time and both groups have the same exposure rate after.

If anyone is taking hater's word as reason to avoid getting vaccinated, they probably are going to die anyhow by using a hairdryer in the shower.

[ChumpDumper]

https://static.wixstatic.com/media/cf58cd_dfefb9be162646c898355a052ebd5e9d~mv2.png
"failure"

[DMC]

And DerpMC too

You have to admit hater has a point in that you cannot call both the deaths good and the information leading to the deaths disgusting. Pick a lane.

[hater]

LOL vaccines have failed but everyone should get one.

They failed their promise. Yes. Its a fact

[hater]

Because they didn't fail.

Respectfully disagree.

[ChumpDumper]

They failed their promise. Yes. Its a factLink to an actual promise?

[ChumpDumper]

Respectfully disagree.Respectfully prove the actual promise from the drugmakers, not your assumption.

[baseline bum]

They failed their promise. Yes. Its a fact

They promised to be 100%?

[hater]

Some vaccines have failed to protect the vaccinated, there are many breakthrough infections and deaths of vaccinated people. However the odds of dying once vaccinated are significantly lower than the odds of dying if you aren't, given that neither group is infected at the time and both groups have the same exposure rate after.

If anyone is taking hater's word as reason to avoid getting vaccinated, they probably are going to die anyhow by using a hairdryer in the shower.

:lol

True

[hater]

They promised to be 100%?

They promised 95%

They are at 40% now

Winnning

[ChumpDumper]

They promised 95%

They are at 40% now

WinnningAh, you just made up a promise in your mind.

Typical.

[hater]

Sorry 91%

From pfizer

Analysis of 927 confirmed symptomatic cases of COVID-19 demonstrates BNT162b2 is highly effective with 91.3% vaccine efficacy observed against COVID-19, measured seven days through up to six months after the second doseVaccine was 100% effective in preventing severe disease as defined by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and 95.3% effective in preventing severe disease as defined by the U.S. Food and Drug AdministrationVaccine was 100% effective in preventing COVID-19 cases in South Africa, where the B.1.351 lineage is prevalent

[ChumpDumper]

Sorry 91%

From pfizer

Analysis of 927 confirmed symptomatic cases of COVID-19 demonstrates BNT162b2 is highly effective with 91.3% vaccine efficacy observed against COVID-19, measured seven days through up to six months after the second doseVaccine was 100% effective in preventing severe disease as defined by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and 95.3% effective in preventing severe disease as defined by the U.S. Food and Drug AdministrationVaccine was 100% effective in preventing COVID-19 cases in South Africa, where the B.1.351 lineage is prevalentNo promise there.

Do you know what a promise is, hater?

[hater]

Shit my bad they did qctually promise 95% :lol

Called it

[DMC]

Even if the vaccine only decreased your odds of dying by 10% they'd be well worth the effort.

[hater]

Even if the vaccine only decreased your odds of dying by 10% they'd be well worth the effort.

Dont disagree. But would it be worth mandate and unlimited boosters??

Fuck


No

[Winehole23]

Shit my bad they did qctually promise 95% :lol

Called itdamn you're dumb

[DMC]

Shit my bad they did qctually promise 95% :lol

Called it

Clinical trial results aren't promises of future performance.

[DMC]

Dont disagree. But would it be worth mandate and unlimited boosters??

Fuck


No

vs dying? Sure.

If you want to sign a hospital waiver that says you die at home without treatment from paid medical professionals, that's ok. Let the vaccinated have the medical care since they obviously value their life enough to risk the vaccine.

[hater]

vs dying? Sure.

2% are dying

Vax those and almost noone will die

[ChumpDumper]

:lol even DMC gets to take a shit in hater's mouth

[DMC]

2% are dying

Vax those and almost noone will die

You cannot go back in time to find those 2%.

You don't know who those 2% will be moving forward. 2% is 2x the average yearly death rate in the US. We spend billions to lower that number, surely one cause death that exceeds all other causes combined is worth the extra effort.

[hater]

You cannot go back in time to find those 2%.

You don't know who those 2% will be moving forward. 2% is 2x the average yearly death rate in the US. We spend billions to lower that number, surely one cause death that exceeds all other causes combined is worth the extra effort.

Sure you can. 90% of those 2% are over 65 or sick. Sure you can find those. Easily.

[hater]

Clinical trial results aren't promises of future performance.

:lol

[DMC]

Sure you can. 90% of those 2% are over 65 or sick. Sure you can find those. Easily.

So you think anyone over 65 should be forced to be vaccinated? By "sick" do you mean comorbidities? I'd venture a guess that half those who post here have some known ailment they are getting treatment for. Should they all be forced to be vaccinated? What if you find out next week you have type II but you missed your opportunity to be vaccinated?

See where this goes? The medical system isn't there to protect the lifestyle of the 30 year old healthy male. It's supposed to protect the population.

[DMC]

:lol

It's true though. You can laugh at it all you want. Those results aren't money back guarantees. If you don't trust the study or the FDA, that's understandable, but no trial results guarantee the same performance in the field. This is why drug companies get sued and change buffers and such all the time.

[hater]

So you think anyone over 65 should be forced to be vaccinated? By "sick" do you mean comorbidities? I'd venture a guess that half those who post here have some known ailment they are getting treatment for. Should they all be forced to be vaccinated? What if you find out next week you have type II but you missed your opportunity to be vaccinated?

See where this goes? The medical system isn't there to protect the lifestyle of the 30 year old healthy male. It's supposed to protect the population.

:lol your whole argument is that there might be some ppl with comorbidies that they are not aware.of thus we need to vax everyone :lmao

Disagree. Those special cases are probable.less rare than vax.breakthroughs :lol

[DMC]

Generally incurable and ongoing, chronic diseases affect approximately 133 million Americans, representing more than 40% of the total population of this country. projected to grow to an estimated 157 million, with 81 million having multiple conditions.

Is this the 2% you want vaccinated?

[Thread]

:lol


It's true though. You can laugh at it all you want. Those results aren't money back guarantees. If you don't trust the study or the FDA, that's understandable, but no trial results guarantee the same performance in the field. This is why drug companies get sued and change buffers and such all the time.

Guy, fellows, not in front of our enemies.

It looks bad.

[hater]

Generally incurable and ongoing, chronic diseases affect approximately 133 million Americans, representing more than 40% of the total population of this country. projected to grow to an estimated 157 million, with 81 million having multiple conditions.

Is this the 2% you want vaccinated?

Define it. We are not talking about that. We are talking about fatal comorbities. Diabetus, cancer, etc.

[Thread]

​
Define it. We are not talking about that. We are talking about fatal comorbities. Diabetus, cancer, etc.

...uh, oh.

- "Death twitches my ear." 'Live,' he says. "I am coming."

[DMC]

:lol your whole argument is that there might be some ppl with comorbidies that they are not aware.of thus we need to vax everyone :lmao

Disagree. Those special cases are probable.less rare than vax.breakthroughs :lol

No, my argument is that chronic illnesses get diagnosed daily, and the logistics of only requiring those people be vaccinated once they are diagnosed is much more problematic than a simple sweeping population vaccination. Otherwise you're always playing catch up.

[ChumpDumper]

You can feel hater's straining to move the goalposts.:lol

[hater]

No, my argument is that chronic illnesses get diagnosed daily, and the logistics of only requiring those people be vaccinated once they are diagnosed is much more problematic than a simple sweeping population vaccination. Otherwise you're always playing catch up.

Disagreed.

The logistics of mandating a shit vaccine to hundreds of millions healthy americans(especially children) is way way worse.

[Thread]

No, my argument is that chronic illnesses get diagnosed daily, and the logistics of only requiring those people be vaccinated once they are diagnosed is much more problematic than a simple sweeping population vaccination. Otherwise you're always playing catch up.


You can feel hater's straining to move the goalposts.:lol

GD it!!! See, Dumps has a front row seat and laughing to be the band.

SOB!!!

[DMC]

Define it. We are not talking about that. We are talking about fatal comorbities. Diabetus, cancer, etc.

Not necessarily. Comorbidities have a timeline associated that doesn't necessarily synch with the COVID death timeline. They may have died from this other illness, but they could have still lived the average life span with treatment. I see no reason to silo the comorbidities like that just to suit your position. The medical field wouldn't.

[hater]

GD it!!! See, Dumps has a front row seat and laughing to be the band.

SOB!!!

I have no problem with anyone disagreeing w me.

But anyone that says I give disinformation or cheer deaths is dumb as fuck as.these same ppl touted Russia hoax for 4 years and cheered every single Trump covid death. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

:lol fully vaccinated antivaxx hater railing against a nonexistent vaccine mandate

[DMC]

Disagreed.

The logistics of mandating a shit vaccine to hundreds of millions healthy americans(especially children) is way way worse.

But children aren't part of the equation yet. If the rest were vaccinated, there might be more room in the ICU for those children who cannot tolerate the vaccine yet have severe response to the virus. Same with the elderly who also cannot tolerate the vaccine. Those who can tolerate it but choose not to should forfeit their ICU beds. You refuse treatment, you die at home. That's as American as it gets.

[Thread]

I have no problem with anyone disagreeing w me.

But anyone that says I give disinformation or cheer deaths is dumb as fuck as.these same ppl touted Russia hoax for 4 years and cheered every single Trump covid death. :lol

But they're watching!!!

Cool your jets, hater!!!

[DMC]

Guy, fellows, not in front of our enemies.

It looks bad.

I don't have any enemies here. If we cannot have open disagreements because of our political beliefs then I don't want to be part of it.

[hater]

But children aren't part of the equation yet. If the rest were vaccinated, there might be more room in the ICU for those children who cannot tolerate the vaccine yet have severe response to the virus. Same with the elderly who also cannot tolerate the vaccine. Those who can tolerate it but choose not to should forfeit their ICU beds. You refuse treatment, you die at home. That's as American as it gets.

Not a bad take. I would be ok with a vax mandate for all over 18. But no mandated boosters

[Thread]

I don't have any enemies here. If we cannot have open disagreements because of our political beliefs then I don't want to be part of it.

That's right, now yell at me in front of 'em.

GD it!!!

[DMC]

That's right, now yell at me in front of 'em.

GD it!!!

Get your fuckin' shinebox Dale!

[Thread]

Not a bad take. I would be ok with a vax mandate for all over 18. But no mandated boosters

That's better. Now, DMC, you say something akin to kindness to the hater.

C'mon, D, for the old Cubster? Por favor?

[Thread]

Get your fuckin' shinebox Dale!

:lol

[DMC]

Not a bad take. I would be ok with a vax mandate for all over 18. But no mandated boosters

I'm not afraid of the boosters either. If you were in the military (Dale) you've become accustomed to getting injected with everything from here to China.

[hater]

I'm not afraid of the boosters either. If you were in the military (Dale) you've become accustomed to getting injected with everything from here to China.

Never took a flu shot ever as thought was a waste of time. I like my immune system working a sweat.

Same goes for covid and boosters.

Its ok to disagree :tu

[DMC]

That's better. Now, DMC, you say something akin to kindness to the hater.

C'mon, D, for the old Cubster? Por favor?

You can get your shoes shined first, hater. I'll read a paper.

[Thread]

I'm not afraid of the boosters either. If you were in the military (Dale) you've become accustomed to getting injected with everything from here to China.

That'll have to do.

[DMC]

Never took a flu shot ever as thought was a waste of time. I like my immune system working a sweat.

Same goes for covid and boosters.

Its ok to disagree :tu

I never got one until a couple years ago. When you have a small one in the home, you realize you might not get the symptoms of the flu but you can still transmit it to the young one. That will change your mind.

[hater]

You can get your shoes shined first, hater. I'll read a paper.

Im in flip flops and about to go to a covid infested pool :lol

[DMC]

Im in flip flops and about to go to a covid infested pool :lol

The shinebox contains pedicure tools as well

[hater]

The shinebox contains pedicure tools as well

Never got a pedicure either :lol

Men get those? :lol jesus christ

[hater]

Lol poor chump. Noone responde to him so he logged out :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Lol poor chump. Noone responde to him so he logged out :lol:lol rent free

[hater]

:lol rent free

Oh hi youre back :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Oh hi youre back :lmaoNever left. Had to see your submission to DMC of all people. Thanks for monitoring my movements tho.:tu

[hater]

Had to see your...

Thats sad :lol

[Blake]

https://twitter.com/CDCgov/status/1233134710638825473?s=20

February 2020

Smh 2021 and Trump tards still don't understand how masks work.

[Blake]

Guy, fellows, not in front of our enemies.

It looks bad.

Fellow Americans are your enemies?

Sad.

[ChumpDumper]

Thats sad :lolI agree your getting curbstomped by the likes of DMC is sad, but you say such stupid shit it's bound to happen.

They pr:crymised!:lol

[Adam Lambert]

You just moved the goalpost a third time :lol

No, you just can't keep up with the goalpost.

My original post that set you off:

More merit-based deaths and I don't have to miss out on fun activities.

Covid under Joe is 100x better.

[Adam Lambert]

https://twitter.com/CDCgov/status/1233134710638825473?s=20

That's a weird response to a post about vaxxers and anti-vaxxers.

[Winehole23]

Fellow Americans are your enemies?

Sad.lol begging for red team solidarity

[Adam Lambert]

You know vaccination is the biggest thing people can do to protect themselves yet you come here constantly making bad faith arguments about the vaccines. I don't know why you get off on feeding people misinformation about life and death choices. It's disgusting.

He's a piece of shit.

[hater]

Im a piece of shit.

Its ok nig. Accepting it is the 1st step :lol

[Adam Lambert]

Its ok nig. Accepting it is the 1st step :lol

Interesting. When did you accept that you were a piece of shit? What lead you down this path?

[Thread]

Fellow Americans are your enemies?

Sad.

You taught us that like crack-a-dawn after:::

Trump President.
Not Clinton.

Then of course you figured you'd have yourselves a good old fasioned Presidency with all the trimmings...
Over-my-dead-body.

[Blake]

You taught us that like crack-a-dawn after:::

Trump President.
Not Clinton.

Then of course you figured you'd have yourselves a good old fasioned Presidency with all the trimmings...
Over-my-dead-body.

Lol "you taught us that"

[Thread]

February 2020

Smh 2021 and Trump tards still don't understand how masks work.

...650k, split thus...

400k President Trump
250k Mother fucker Biden

I guess what they said 100+ years ago bears out and remains the bitter truth..."A piece of gauze proved worthless."

[DMC]

No, you just can't keep up with the goalpost.

My original post that set you off:

Why would I need to "keep up" with something that isn't moving? :lol

[DMC]

That's a weird response to a post about vaxxers and anti-vaxxers.

You saying people don't follow science so fuck'em if they die. In reality you also don't follow the science, you follow the arbiters of the science. That tweet is an illustration of the arbiters of "the science" not able to wipe their own asses. Then the excuse was given (and accepted by many) that the CDC was trying to save masks. So they gave out bad information about the efficacy of the masks because they had an agenda, but you expect people to trust them going forward.

[Thread]

Lol "you taught us that"

You did. Your side threatened to impeach that morning after he beat her. And few times in the interceding couple months before he was sworn...then the day he was sworn your side threatened to blow him up...sent out BLM and Antifa/masked to sucker punch any Trumpster they could locate on the street.

Then you swore you'd (resist) him every day that ended in (y)...on and on for 3 years till you lucked out and caught a hanger and started the death count.

I'm countin', dad, and I ain't stoppin'. Go ahead, Blake, try and stop me. I want to see you try.

I swore to that old man via the Twitter that I'd avenge him with all my might.

CHARGE!!!

[DMC]

February 2020

Smh 2021 and Trump tards still don't understand how masks work.

You want that to go away. It's not going away. The same people who refuse to get vaccinated or wear a mask were alive then as well.

Plus, Fredo, you don't have a seat at the table. You're just standing around commenting. Mind your mouth.

[boutons_deux]

Blood Donor Study Estimates Over 80% of American Adults Now Have Coronavirus Antibodies

The research suggests that four in five Americans over age 16 have antibodies,

with most getting them from vaccination.

https://gizmodo.com/blood-donor-study-estimates-over-80-of-american-adults-1847613622

[ChumpDumper]

You want that to go away. It's not going away. The same people who refuse to get vaccinated or wear a mask were alive then as well.

Plus, Fredo, you don't have a seat at the table. You're just standing around commenting. Mind your mouth.:lol you do nothing but stand around and comment on other men here.

[spurraider21]

Deemac wishes we could just stay in February 2020 in perpetuity

[DMC]

Never got a pedicure either :lol

Men get those? :lol jesus christ

Trust me, if you haven't had a pedicure your life isn't complete.

[DMC]

Deemac wishes we could just stay in February 2020 in perpetuity

You'd like to pretend the CDC didn't lie to the American public.

[spurraider21]

You'd like to pretend the CDC didn't lie to the American public.
guidance changed shortly thereafter with new information and developments (PPE shortage, etc). why ignore that for your narrative, derp?

[hater]

You taught us that like crack-a-dawn after:::

Trump President.
Not Clinton.

Then of course you figured you'd have yourselves a good old fasioned Presidency with all the trimmings...
Over-my-dead-body.

Blake is a.dumb ass. Celebrates every Trumptard death then cries about ppl having enemies :lmao

Stupid fuckface

[hater]

Trust me, if you haven't had a pedicure your life isn't complete.

Fuck that. Id rather get a BJ fro.a woman btw

[Adam Lambert]

You saying people don't follow science so fuck'em if they die. In reality you also don't follow the science, you follow the arbiters of the science. That tweet is an illustration of the arbiters of "the science" not able to wipe their own asses. Then the excuse was given (and accepted by many) that the CDC was trying to save masks. So they gave out bad information about the efficacy of the masks because they had an agenda, but you expect people to trust them going forward.

You're a moron if you think anti-vaxxers would trust the CDC more if they hadn't been wrong about masks in February 2020. You're a bigger moron if you think most of them pay any attention to the CDC in the first place.

My position is no different than being glad a drunk driver gets killed in an auto accident instead of the family of four he hit. I'm sorry that bothers you so much.

[Blake]

You'd like to pretend the CDC didn't lie to the American public.

Look at the YouTube you posted, genius.

"Will a mask protect me?"

[ElNono]

Trust me, if you haven't had a pedicure your life isn't complete.

this

[ElNono]

Never got a pedicure either :lol

Men get those? :lol jesus christ

:lol you don't need to get nail polish and shit...

[hater]

:lol you don't need to get nail polish and shit...

I Dont do fag shit nig.

I kick corners and score goals. Never had someone grab my feet unles they have it in their mouth and are a female

[ElNono]

I Dont do fag shit nig.

I kick corners and score goals. Never had someone grab my feet unles they have it in their mouth and are a female

:lol nothing faggy about keeping healthy feet... and yeah, normally it is a woman (of asian descent) that does that stuff.

Here, read some good advice from GQ: https://www.gq.com/story/pedicures-are-for-men-too

[Trainwreck2100]

I Dont do fag shit nig.

I kick corners and score goals. Never had someone grab my feet unles they have it in their mouth and are a female

These are professionals cleaning your feet, nobody says it needs the lacquer or polish. Worth it for the callus removal alone

[GAustex]

Once a year or so I get a pedi. If some dude tried to touch my feet fuck that. Asian gal does it. Feels good.

[hater]

These are professionals cleaning your feet, nobody says it needs the lacquer or polish. Worth it for the callus removal alone

Callus? Well yeah if I had that shit then maybe. I guess.

[hater]

Once a year or so I get a pedi. If some dude tried to touch my feet fuck that. Asian gal does it. Feels good.

It does? Ok. Cool. I guess

[hater]

I know nigs that do manicures and shit. Whatever.

I guess im an d school caveman tbqh

[ElNono]

Callus? Well yeah if I had that shit then maybe. I guess.

Never had them until my mid-40s, tbh... never had a pedi until then either...

You can grab one of dem piedra pomez and do it yourself in the shower, but I already gotta wait for the wife to get her pedi done, so might as well, tbh...

[Blake]

Don't know how the pedicure talk got going but hell yeah. You sit in the massage chair, have a drink and get your feet massaged in hot swirling water.

[hater]

Never had them until my mid-40s, tbh... never had a pedi until then either...

You can grab one of dem piedra pomez and do it yourself in the shower, but I already gotta wait for the wife to get her pedi done, so might as well, tbh...

I probably would go to a shooting range or play a video game while the wifey does shit imo.

But :tu its cool

[DarrinS]

Anecdote, but I haven't been sick since March 2020.

[DarrinS]

Anecdote, but I haven't been sick since March 2020.

Since then, two flu shots and two Pfizer.

[Blake]

Anecdote, but I haven't been sick since March 2020.

Oh

[DMC]

guidance changed shortly thereafter with new information and developments (PPE shortage, etc). why ignore that for your narrative, derp?

I already addressed that. If there were PPE shortages, does that mean masks weren't effective against COVID? Seems like an agenda based lie. "Yeah but it was in our best interest that they lie" -you

[DMC]

Fuck that. Id rather get a BJ fro.a woman btw

Who says you cannot have both?

I mean, I get my teeth cleaned a few times a year and get massages as well (not at the same time but that's a business idea). You can act all John Dutton all you like, you're more like Jamie than you admit.

[DMC]

You're a moron if you think anti-vaxxers would trust the CDC more if they hadn't been wrong about masks in February 2020. You're a bigger moron if you think most of them pay any attention to the CDC in the first place.

My position is no different than being glad a drunk driver gets killed in an auto accident instead of the family of four he hit. I'm sorry that bothers you so much.

You didn't disagree with my point. You only contend that it doesn't matter if the CDC lied. I don't care about your position, you're just inconsistent. You're for the rain but against the wet.

[spurraider21]

I already addressed that. If there were PPE shortages, does that mean masks weren't effective against COVID? Seems like an agenda based lie. "Yeah but it was in our best interest that they lie" -you
No. You also ignore that guidances changed as we had more info. Do i wish they got it right as early as February 27, 2020? Sure. But they didn’t. They did shortly thereafter though

[spurraider21]

2% are dying

Vax those and almost noone will die
Predict the future and only vaccinate those people who would die ahead of time.

and forget about serious illness and long covid. Fuck those guys

[ElNono]

I probably would go to a shooting range or play a video game while the wifey does shit imo.

But :tu its cool

I do play a video game or watch some TV while me and the wife are getting a pedi done, tbh... cellphones for the win...

[Blake]

I already addressed that. If there were PPE shortages, does that mean masks weren't effective against COVID? Seems like an agenda based lie. "Yeah but it was in our best interest that they lie" -you

Lol they didn't lie. You're a moron.

[Winehole23]

A view from Vietnam -- sounds pretty rough

https://vietnamweekly.substack.com/p/how-will-ho-chi-minh-citys-lockdown

[Adam Lambert]

You didn't disagree with my point. You only contend that it doesn't matter if the CDC lied. I don't care about your position, you're just inconsistent. You're for the rain but against the wet.

You don't have a point. You're just flinging shit against the wall from behind a table because you can't keep up.

And if you didn't care about my position, you wouldn't still be whining about it two days later at 1:30 am.

[hater]

Predict the future and only vaccinate those people who would die ahead of time.

and forget about serious illness and long covid. Fuck those guys

Not predict future nancy. Vaccinaten old and sick. :tu

[Winehole23]

pretty bad in Cuba


On Wednesday, Cuba said it would start to immunize children from the age of two by week’s end as a precursor to reopening schools.https://asiatimes.com/2021/09/cubas-vaunted-health-system-straining-under-covid/

[Winehole23]

more ventilation to mitigate respiratory disease, who woulda thunk



Opening a window could reduce the amount of coronavirus in a room by half, according to a new observational study of infected college students in an isolation dormitory at the University of Oregon.


The study, which was posted online (https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-861942/v1), is small and has not yet been published in a scientific journal. But it provides real-world evidence for several important principles, demonstrating that the virus spreads from infected people into the air in a room; that the more virus they’re carrying, the more virus builds up indoors; and that both natural and mechanical ventilation appear to reduce this environmental viral load.


“Ventilation is one of the most important mitigation strategies that we have at our disposal,” said Kevin Van Den Wymelenberg, who led the research and directs the Institute for Health in the Built Environment.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/05/health/covid-ventilation-college-dorm.html

https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-861942/v1

[Winehole23]

COVID still shutting shit down. Staff out sick, parents keeping their kids home.

At least 1,000 US schools have closed due to Covid since late July: report (https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/public-global-health/570946-at-least-1000-us-schools-have-closed-due-to-covid?rl=1%E2%80%9D)

[Winehole23]

Abbott and DeSantis giving US necropolitics a big shove


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-kBeu0WUAEccrp?format=jpg&name=medium

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-feIRQVEAMfvGu?format=jpg&name=large

[Adam Lambert]

I'd hope so, they have about twice the population as all those countries combined.

Japan's number is quite impressive as a % of total population.

[DMC]

No. You also ignore that guidances changed as we had more info. Do i wish they got it right as early as February 27, 2020? Sure. But they didn’t. They did shortly thereafter though

Pick a lane.

I've already given my reasoning for this and neither you nor anyone else here offered a decent rebuttal.

1. CDC was ignorant about asymptomatic cases despite other viruses having that characteristic (incompetence)
2. CDC was aware that asymptomatic cases can exist and were more concerned with herd mentality and mask shortages (so they lied about the efficacy of masks)

Even the surgeon general said masks don't work against the virus. The advice was that, if you aren't sick, don't wear a mask. Of course right away even layman folk thought "but what about asymptomatic people?". You'd have me believe the CDC didn't consider this early?

Whether or not masks work and whether or not vaccines work, organizations like that lose a section of the population when they exhibit tendencies to bend to political pressure. They are either scientists or they are politicians. When scientists bend to politics you get what you have now.

[DMC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-feIRQVEAMfvGu?format=jpg&name=large

:lol

WH pushing India's propaganda.

[ChumpDumper]

Is DMC going through some personal crisis right now?

[Thread]

COVID still shutting shit down. Staff out sick, parents keeping their kids home.

At least 1,000 US schools have closed due to Covid since late July: report (https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/public-global-health/570946-at-least-1000-us-schools-have-closed-due-to-covid?rl=1%E2%80%9D)



Don't see that on CNN, by God, Winester.

Makes total sense. Only complete assholes would go into a school now, or, allow their child in there.

This is on Biden though. He opened everything up on 4th of July weekend and we've been in flames ever since.

[Thread]

Pick a lane.

I've already given my reasoning for this and neither you nor anyone else here offered a decent rebuttal.

1. CDC was ignorant about asymptomatic cases despite other viruses having that characteristic (incompetence)
2. CDC was aware that asymptomatic cases can exist and were more concerned with herd mentality and mask shortages (so they lied about the efficacy of masks)

Even the surgeon general said masks don't work against the virus. The advice was that, if you aren't sick, don't wear a mask. Of course right away even layman folk thought "but what about asymptomatic people?". You'd have me believe the CDC didn't consider this early?

Whether or not masks work and whether or not vaccines work, organizations like that lose a section of the population when they exhibit tendencies to bend to political pressure. They are either scientists or they are politicians. When scientists bend to politics you get what you have now.

...over a quarter million dead Americans since mother fucker Biden got sworn w/o Madonna threatening to blow up the White House.

His finest hour.

D M C

[Blake]

Pick a lane.

I've already given my reasoning for this and neither you nor anyone else here offered a decent rebuttal.

1. CDC was ignorant about asymptomatic cases despite other viruses having that characteristic (incompetence)
2. CDC was aware that asymptomatic cases can exist and were more concerned with herd mentality and mask shortages (so they lied about the efficacy of masks)

Even the surgeon general said masks don't work against the virus. The advice was that, if you aren't sick, don't wear a mask. Of course right away even layman folk thought "but what about asymptomatic people?". You'd have me believe the CDC didn't consider this early?

Whether or not masks work and whether or not vaccines work, organizations like that lose a section of the population when they exhibit tendencies to bend to political pressure. They are either scientists or they are politicians. When scientists bend to politics you get what you have now.

What was the purpose for "lying" then according to you? What's the motive for this conspiracy?

[baseline bum]

No. You also ignore that guidances changed as we had more info. Do i wish they got it right as early as February 27, 2020? Sure. But they didn’t. They did shortly thereafter though

I don't, you'd have a bunch of haters buying it all up and making PPE the next toilet paper, keeping it from healthcare workers.

[DMC]

Abbott and DeSantis giving US necropolitics a big shove


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-kBeu0WUAEccrp?format=jpg&name=medium

So these two governors also govern Eu regions? Looks cyclical/seasonal to me.

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-naXywVIAU1yt7?format=jpg&name=large

[Winehole23]

Florida, Idaho and SC are in a league of their own right up there with Botswana.

[ChumpDumper]

Guys, I don't think DMC's abject stupidity is just an act anymore.

[Thread]

Guys, I don't think DMC's abject stupidity is just an act anymore.

Perhaps, but he's cleaned a lot a clocks of a Labor Day before noon, daddy-O.

[Winehole23]

Florida, Idaho and SC are in a league of their own right up there with Botswana.sorry, Louisiana, I left you out

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-njOL-XsAQsqfO?format=jpg&name=medium

[Thread]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-njOL-XsAQsqfO?format=jpg&name=medium

Here we go again, Winester:::

CA. deaths: over 66k
NY. deaths: over 55k.
FL. deaths: 46k.

Let us proceed...

[DMC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-naXywVIAU1yt7?format=jpg&name=large

Deaths per 1m pop

1 - New Jersey
2 - Mississippi
3 - New York
..
..
..

17 - Florida

[Winehole23]

Deaths per 1m pop

1 - New Jersey
2 - Mississippi
3 - New York
..
..
..

17 - Floridathe first wave without vaccines and effective treatment was brutal, what's Florida's excuse now?

[DMC]

the first wave without vaccines and effective treatment was brutal, what's Florida's excuse now?

What was NY's excuse then? Cuomo dithered?

[ChumpDumper]

the first wave without vaccines and effective treatment was brutal, what's Florida's excuse now?Florida's excuse now is DMC hates you for showing he's not as smart as he wants to be seen here.

[DMC]

Those dead people aren't coming back. I'm counting them.

[Winehole23]

What was NY's excuse then? Cuomo dithered?already answered, DensoMenso

[DMC]

already answered, DensoMenso

When NY's death rate far exceeded any other state, you basically dismissed it with a softball comment. Now you want to focus on the difference and point to the governor... now.

https://i.imgur.com/TAnEBUl.jpg

Better hope that shit don't come for you, fatty.

[Winehole23]

When NY's death rate far exceeded any other state, you basically dismissed it with a softball comment. Now you want to focus on the difference and point to the governor... now.

https://i.imgur.com/TAnEBUl.jpgFalse, I stayed on top of the story when you rested content with drive bys.

I've posted more about Cuomo and NY's specific failures than anyone else here.

[DMC]

https://i.imgur.com/MGXcxcY.jpg

[DMC]

False, I stayed on top of the story when you rested content with drive bys.

I've posted more about Cuomo and NY's specific failures than anyone else here.

Slinging shit memes and random twitter posts isn't "staying on top of it". You stayed on top of the India progress also it seems, since you slung their propaganda like it's factual :lol

[boutons_deux]

False, I stayed on top of the story when you rested content with drive bys.

I've posted more about Cuomo and NY's specific failures than anyone else here.

New York and New Jersey were hit hard and early with infected visitors from Europe before anybody knew WTF was going on, and with homicidal Trash and his dickless sycophants downplaying the pandemic and spreading confusion.

[Winehole23]

eh, it's checkable anyone cares to.

I've reposted probably a couple dozen straight news stories on Cuomo/NY/COVID.

how many have you posted, DensoMenso?

[Winehole23]

DMC et up with det grudge

[Winehole23]

some people can't tear the page off the calendar

it's Florida's turn in the barrel

1434940126942138368

[spurraider21]

Pick a lane.

I've already given my reasoning for this and neither you nor anyone else here offered a decent rebuttal.

1. CDC was ignorant about asymptomatic cases despite other viruses having that characteristic (incompetence)
2. CDC was aware that asymptomatic cases can exist and were more concerned with herd mentality and mask shortages (so they lied about the efficacy of masks)

Even the surgeon general said masks don't work against the virus. The advice was that, if you aren't sick, don't wear a mask. Of course right away even layman folk thought "but what about asymptomatic people?". You'd have me believe the CDC didn't consider this early?

Whether or not masks work and whether or not vaccines work, organizations like that lose a section of the population when they exhibit tendencies to bend to political pressure. They are either scientists or they are politicians. When scientists bend to politics you get what you have now.
they probably wanted to prevent a PPE shortage and at the time did not think covid was widespread enough to justify advising everybody to wear a mask whether or not they had tested positive

[hater]

some people can't tear the page off the calendar

it's Florida's turn in the barrel

1434940126942138368

Biden killing floridians like ants tbqh


Murderer

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9rKsrAXMAMot0M?format=jpg&name=small

[hater]

Biden killing floridians like ants tbqh


Murderer

[Winehole23]

^^^ man crush on DeSantis and Trump

[hater]

^^^ man crush on DeSantis and Trump

Biden going onto 300k dead rotten carcasses

Serial murderer

[Thread]

Biden going onto 300k dead rotten carcasses

Serial murderer

Tell it, hater.

Testify!!!

[boutons_deux]

no accomodation for the ignorant, selfish bastards


A Florida doctor said she'd stop treating most unvaccinated patients in person but denied violating the Hippocratic Oath



A Florida doctor said she's refusing to treat unvaccinated patients in person, Newsweek reported (https://www.newsweek.com./florida-doctor-will-no-longer-treat-unvaccinated-person-denies-violating-hippocratic-oath-1626170).
Dr. Linda Marraccini denied violating the Hippocratic Oath and said she was "following the science."
Marraccini plans to treat unvaccinated patients through virtual meetings instead.


https://www.businessinsider.com/florida-doctor-refuses-to-treat-unvaccinated-patients-in-her-office-2021-9

[Ef-man]

they probably wanted to prevent a PPE shortage and at the time did not think covid was widespread enough to justify advising everybody to wear a mask whether or not they had tested positive

Meeting derp's my child standard for a decent rebuttal will require more bloviating, fake indignation, and won't come out of the closet from shame frustration.

Tall order, so good luck with that.