Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

[Thread]

CrushedPERIOD

Biden has lost over 135,000 Americans to the COVID since 1.1.2022.

& counting, El.

[ElNono]

Biden has lost over 135,000 Americans to the COVID since 1.1.2022.

& counting, El.

Better than Trump :tu

[Thread]

Better than Trump :tu

Sure, daddy.

[ChumpDumper]

1499507465553072131

:lol he's doing great as always

Your Trump is the one who is out.

[pgardn]

U are for lockdowns and mandates?

When they are called for locally because of a bad break out they cant handle, absolutely.
This is the stage we are in now it appears. But who knows. We change policy as facts on the ground change.
What you falsely called "follow the science" but never understood. How to handle the facts is also a part of this, and our government must make decisions about.

[pgardn]

:lol he's doing great as always

Your Trump is the one who is out.

Thankfully he was around and defying stupid Trump blurps on radiating circulatory systems.

[Winehole23]

the most intolerant minority wins, especially if it coincides with the political expedience of the donor class to prioritize private gains over the public good.



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FM8uld9XwAMFAA0?format=jpg&name=small

[Winehole23]

Walensky goes full Great Barrington in her advice to the public, but the CDC will require masking and remote work until May for its own workers.


I think ultimately we’ll have good-level population immunity for variants that come our way, and even if surges come, the amplitude of those surges will be less," Walensky said. "We’ll have a coronavirus that will lead to death in every season, that we will tolerate in some way.https://www.kcur.org/health/2022-03-03/in-missouri-cdc-director-rochelle-walensky-says-covid-will-lead-to-death-in-every-season

[Winehole23]

and we're cool with that, please throw away your masks now.


We in infectious disease have long known that where infectious diseases go are not in places of wealth and places of poverty and places in lack of access,” she said. “We’re going to see it again with long COVID, where those who had been more afflicted with the disease had less access to care and more comorbidities are going to bear the burden of that disease

[SnakeBoy]

Walensky goes full Great Barrington in her advice to the public, but the CDC will require masking and remote work until May for its own workers.

https://www.kcur.org/health/2022-03-03/in-missouri-cdc-director-rochelle-walensky-says-covid-will-lead-to-death-in-every-season

:tu

[DarrinS]

and we're cool with that, please throw away your masks now.

:tu

[Winehole23]

don't ever change, dumb Darrin

[DarrinS]

:cry People aren't worried about covid anymore. :cry

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/ezralevant/status/1499633053458743297?s=19

[Winehole23]

COVID doesn't care either way, but you're wrong about that. Universalizing your own POV is one of your mental tics.

[Thread]

COVID doesn't care either way, but you're wrong about that. Universalizing your own POV is one of your mental tics.

Precisely. Lost another 1700+ Americans to it today, Friday, 2.4.2022.

[ElNono]

https://twitter.com/ezralevant/status/1499633053458743297?s=19

lol spreading clickbait tweets nobody is watching

[Winehole23]

preliminary, but the correlation with ED has already been observed


Multiple tissues of the male genital tract can be infected with SARS-CoV-2, reports a new Northwestern Medicine study in large animal models. The study, in SARS-CoV-2 infected-rhesus macaques, revealed the prostate, vasculature of testicles, penis and testicles were all infected with the virus.https://medicalxpress.com/news/2022-03-covid-infects-penis-testicles-prostate.html

[Winehole23]

Bone loss in mice

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34607050/

[Winehole23]

1499852612690141192

[baseline bum]

Precisely. Lost another 1700+ Americans to it today, Friday, 2.4.2022.

https://i.ibb.co/D5vB183/lol45.jpg

[Thread]

https://i.ibb.co/D5vB183/lol45.jpg

1.1.2022: 846,905 Americans dead of the COVID.
3.5.2022: 983,486 Americans dead of the COVID.

136,581 Americans dead of the COVID so far this year.

& counting.

Let us proceed...

[Winehole23]

"mild"

1498690033846349828

[DMC]

https://i.imgur.com/PnGPuIn.jpg


Called it

[Winehole23]

https://i.imgur.com/PnGPuIn.jpg


Called itcalled what?

we're probably on deck for similar in 2-3 months, tbh. that's the BA.2.

[DMC]

called what?

we're probably on deck for similar in 2-3 months, tbh. that's the BA.2.

Oh ok. If you don't know what I called, how can you know what we're on deck for? :lol

[Winehole23]

Oh ok. If you don't know what I called, how can you know what we're on deck for? :lol BA.2 will most likely spike here like it's doing in Denmark, Hong Kong and South Korea. just a matter of time, we've seen this movie a few times already.

what are you claiming you called?

[SnakeBoy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfyOihhAD4A

Ivermectin works better than remdesivir

:lol Fauci

[pgardn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfyOihhAD4A

Ivermectin works better than remdesivir

:lol Fauci

This is the same old guy that is touting blood letting...
The teacher of nursing students is up for any malady infecting reptilian youtubers.

[ElNono]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfyOihhAD4A

Ivermectin works better than remdesivir

:lol Fauci

:lol YouTube science

[DarrinS]

science science

fify

[baseline bum]

"mild"

1498690033846349828

https://i.ibb.co/D5vB183/lol45.jpg

[ElNono]

fify

No, YoutTube science.

He knows he can publish and then get laughed at by his colleagues, but that doesn't get him subscribers...

[SnakeBoy]

No, YoutTube science.

He knows he can publish and then get laughed at by his colleagues, but that doesn't get him subscribers...

He's just reviewing studies not doing them

Remdesivir doesn't work, NIH's own study showed that and Fauci called it the "standard of care"
Ivermectin works better than remdesivir
lol Fauci

[ElNono]

He's just cherry picking studies not doing them

fify

Like I said, he can publish his theories based on those papers and get laughed at.

YouTube isn't the place to have that discussion, it's the place to con and grift the uneducated.

Thankfully we have serious people like Dr Fauci crushing the pandemic.

[DarrinS]

He's just reviewing studies not doing them

Remdesivir doesn't work, NIH's own study showed that and Fauci called it the "standard of care"
Ivermectin works better than remdesivir
lol Fauci



Lol, they gave shitty Remdesivir to patient zero in the US. A chinaman from Wuhan.

[DarrinS]

fify

Like I said, he can publish his theories based on those papers and get laughed at.

YouTube isn't the place to have that discussion, it's the place to con and grift the uneducated.

Thankfully we have serious people like Dr Fauci crushing the pandemic.

Fauci currently MIA. MFer funding GOF research. Fuck that guy.

[DarrinS]

Lol, highest paid federal employee. Fauci can fuck off, tbh.

[DarrinS]

Lol, they gave shitty Remdesivir to patient zero in the US. A chinaman from Wuhan.

"No trials to base that decision on..."



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXk-mPzdwF8

[ElNono]

Fauci currently MIA. MFer funding GOF research. Fuck that guy.

He's still doing the usual interviews.

He's just not out there all the time since him and Brandon got the situation under control, for now anyways.

You should be glad the US has a professional like him, tbh...

[ElNono]

Lol, highest paid federal employee. Fauci can fuck off, tbh.

Did he dick down your daughter or something? Or you're just mad he was right all along? :lol

[Adam Lambert]

Did he dick down your daughter or something? Or you're just mad he was right all along? :lol

He rolled his eyes at President Trump which is basically the same thing if you're a MAGAtard.

[ElNono]

He rolled his eyes at President Trump which is basically the same thing if you're a MAGAtard.

"In muh zip code Fauci was wrong"

[DarrinS]

He's still doing the usual interviews.

He's just not out there all the time since him and Brandon got the situation under control, for now anyways.

You should be glad the US has a professional like him, tbh...


Such a great man


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-flu-virus-risk-worth-taking/2011/12/30/gIQAM9sNRP_story.html

[ElNono]

Such a great man

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-flu-virus-risk-worth-taking/2011/12/30/gIQAM9sNRP_story.html

What's wrong with that?

Absolutely a great man and professional, and an asset to this country, as we've seen.

[ElNono]

FYI:

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2022/03/03/1083751272/striking-new-evidence-points-to-seafood-market-in-wuhan-as-pandemic-origin-point

[DarrinS]

What's wrong with that?

Absolutely a great man and professional, and an asset to this country, as we've seen.

Fauci and Collins were fucking around with something waaay more deadly than covid.

Great men

[DarrinS]

FYI:

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2022/03/03/1083751272/striking-new-evidence-points-to-seafood-market-in-wuhan-as-pandemic-origin-point


Funded by NAIAD.

[ElNono]

Fauci and Collins were fucking around with something waaay more deadly than covid.

Great men

They weren't "fucking around", they were doing research that paved the way to the benefits we see today, including genetic sequencing in a matter of months and novel vaccines in a matter of a year and a half. And they did so securely and responsibly.

This is exactly why they're great assets to this country, and we should all be thankful that they've saved countless lives.

[ElNono]

Funded by NAIAD.

And? Is that it? That's the counterargument?

[DarrinS]

Funded by NAIAD.


And? Is that it? That's the counterargument?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1TisjALpow

[ElNono]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1TisjALpow

Sorry, I don't take news from entertainers seriously. If you have a conspiracy theory to share, go ahead.

[Adam Lambert]

:lmao :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Lol, they gave shitty Remdesivir to patient zero in the US. A chinaman from Wuhan.

:lol racist Darrin

[ChumpDumper]

Did he dick down your daughter or something? Or you're just mad he was right all along? :lol

:rollin

[Thread]

What's wrong with that?

Absolutely a great man and professional, and an asset to this country, as we've seen.

984,000 dead of the COVID, El.

And counting.

[ElNono]

984,000 dead of the COVID, El.

And counting.


https://i.ibb.co/D5vB183/lol45.jpg

[Winehole23]

https://i.ibb.co/D5vB183/lol45.jpgI wouldn't count on COVID to thin the ranks enough to tilt elections and anyway, immune escape is already vitiating this effect.

I also think celebrating the death of political adversaries by COVID is an L for public health. Death is hardly the only metric that counts and cheering on an infectious disease is barbarity, more or less.

[Thread]

I wouldn't count on COVID to thin the ranks enough to tilt elections and anyway, immune escape is already vitiating this effect.

I also think celebrating the death of political adversaries by COVID is an L for public health. Death is hardly the only metric that counts and cheering on an infectious disease is barbarity, more or less.

I'll just bet you do.

[baseline bum]

I wouldn't count on COVID to thin the ranks enough to tilt elections and anyway, immune escape is already vitiating this effect.

I also think celebrating the death of political adversaries by COVID is an L for public health. Death is hardly the only metric that counts and cheering on an infectious disease is barbarity, more or less.

I think it's funny if you want to choose political ideology over getting a simple life-saving vaccination and then get got.

[Winehole23]

I think it's funny if you want to choose political ideology over getting a simple life-saving vaccination and then get got.I think it's sad, your mileage may vary.

[Winehole23]

more evidence of damage to the brain from mild infection

1500864335995817985

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNQ_qWFXoAMV3b_?format=jpg&name=small

[Winehole23]

there is no back to normal. not the old normal, anyway.


Six key survey findings:


Nurses are considering leaving, and it’s not just a Covid issue:

90% are considering leaving the nursing profession in the next year, with 71% of RNs that have over 15 years of experience thinking about leaving as soon as possible or within the next few months. 72% said they were experiencing nurse burnout prior to the pandemic.


Workloads are increasing and is staff decreasing:

43% said a shortage of technicians meant they were doing more tasks like cleaning units, procuring supplies, and clerical duties as part of their workload. 39% said they were experiencing more serious mental health issues, like anxiety or depression, due to their increasing job demands.


Rising patient-to-nurse staffing ratios:

45% of RNs said the estimated patient-to-nurse staffing ratios across shifts are currently 5:1, above the standard of 4:1. 84% of emergency room nurses and 96% of intensive care or critical care nurses have 4:1 ratios, double the optimal target of 2:1


High ratios impact nurse burnout and patient care:

Overworked and overstressed, many nurses are trying their best but are making mistakes they don’t usually make. Medication errors or delays (38%), sharps injuries (33%), and healthcare associated infections (31%) are other impacts nurses have seen due to critical staffing shortages.


Care is less accessible for patients:

Understaffing and delays are also impacting hospitals’ ability to provide care. 36% of nurses said that they had seen patients with acute health conditions walk out of the ER because they had to wait excessive amounts of time for an inpatient bed. 37% said that surgeries had to be rescheduled because of bed shortages.


Manual tasks are a critical source of nurses’ frustration:

Nurses cited multiple steps hospital leadership can take to ease nurses’ workloads, help deliver better patient care, and increase the likelihood of staying at their current hospital.

Many of these steps nurses cited would not have a financial impact; they could be achieved through existing resources and better processes. 53% overall want streamlined processes that ensure visibility into patient needs and communication. Another 45% said better communication and coordination across departments, and 40% said improved and expanded communication and representation with hospital leadership would improve satisfaction.

Automating manual processes would go a long way toward improving staff satisfaction. 45% of nurses said that referrals and transfer processes were the most manual, while 42% said updating paperwork and 42% said orchestrating patient discharges.
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/inside-the-nursing-shortage-six-key-survey-findings.html

[boutons_deux]

there is no back to normal. not the old normal, anyway.

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/inside-the-nursing-shortage-six-key-survey-findings.html

The summary is fine, but was there any distinction between investor-owned hospitals and taxpayer-owned hospitals?


It is known that doctors working and investor own hospitals are not seen as caregivers but are seen as revenue centers

I read that for-profit hospitals or abandoning domestic PPE manufacturers and going back to just in time. Chinese manufacturers

[Thread]

The summary is fine, but was there any distinction between investor-owned hospitals and taxpayer-owned hospitals?


It is known that doctors working and investor own hospitals are not seen as caregivers but are seen as revenue centers

I read that for-profit hospitals or abandoning domestic PPE manufacturers and going back to just in time. Chinese manufacturers

...one of those times when bouts hits that fuckin' nail dead center. & I mean fucking solid.

Take it, bouts...

bouts

[Adam Lambert]

more evidence of damage to the brain from mild infection

The jokes write themselves.

[Winehole23]

The jokes write themselves.disguised as straight takes by hater, DarrinS and Snake Boy

https://media.giphy.com/media/Wok1hVy2F4Oxa/giphy.gif

[Winehole23]

more transmissible, not more severe, with some immune evasion.

sounds remarkably like the narrative surrounding Omicron, which caused 120,000 US deaths in two months.




The BA.2 subvariant of Omicron, or the “stealth” variant, has been outcompeting the previously dominant BA.1 subvariant in several countries.
Recent studies suggest that BA.2 has a competitive advantage over BA.1, mostly due to its increased transmissibility.
The BA.2 variant may also be slightly better at evading immunity than BA.1, which could be contributing to its rapid spread.
Although BA.2 is more contagious than BA.1, clinical data do not suggest a significant difference in disease severity.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/omicron-subvariants-ba-1-vs-ba-2-what-the-latest-data-says

[Winehole23]

BA.2.2 about to break Peru's record for deaths per million in Hong Kong

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNR0nE-XEAEhM8v?format=jpg&name=small

[DarrinS]

disguised as straight takes by hater, DarrinS and Snake Boy


With

* Original Wuhan-Fauci variant infection
* Two Pfizer shots
* Omicron-AIDS variant infection

How worried should I be?

I'm done

[Thread]

BA.2.2 about to break Peru's record for deaths per million in Hong Kong

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNR0nE-XEAEhM8v?format=jpg&name=small

Don't fret, Winester. Biden is gonna hit that MILLION mark of Americans dead of the COVID this month.

[Winehole23]

With

* Original Wuhan-Fauci variant infection
* Two Pfizer shots
* Omicron-AIDS variant infection

How worried should I be?

I'm doneCOVID is over because Karrin got impatient with it.

[Winehole23]

I'm boosted and relatively unconcerned for myself, but I do try not to spread COVID to others when I'm in public because I'm not a sociopath. There are also people in my life who are more vulnerable than I, whom I wish to protect.

[Winehole23]

counting on the hidden hand of the market


Because the antibody treatment has been sent to a limited number of medical providers, patients in the group have closely monitored a federal database (https://healthdata.gov/Health/COVID-19-Public-Therapeutic-Locator/rxn6-qnx8) that shows where Evusheld has gone. In Pasadena, Karol Franks said she spotted doses that had been sent to nearby hospitals and reached out to doctors to ask about getting it for her 36-year-old daughter.


“I said, ‘Hey, I see there’s Evusheld.’ And they’re like, ‘What’s Evusheld?’” Franks recalled.


One physician told her the treatment was still not available. Another said that her daughter — a kidney transplant patient who had no antibodies despite being vaccinated and boosted — was nowhere near the front of the line at his hospital. Franks persisted and her daughter Jenna eventually got the antibody shots elsewhere.


“If you’re a patient, you really need to stay on top of things,” Jenna Franks said. “You can’t just wait for the doctor to tell you what to do.”


So far, the federal government has agreed to buy 1.7 million courses of the treatment from AstraZeneca. As of late February, it had delivered nearly 600,000 doses for free to states and territories, according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. Patient advocates have raised alarms about that number, pointing out that at least 7 million adults (https://www.ama-assn.org/delivering-care/public-health/what-tell-immunocompromised-patients-about-covid-19-vaccines#:~:text=Immunocompromised%20people%20acco unt%20for%20at,those%20treated%20with%20immunosupp ressive%20medications.) across the United States are estimated to be immunocompromised.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-03-06/covid-antibody-treatment-obstacles

[Thread]

COVID is over because Karrin got impatient with it.

Over 1700 Americans died of the COVID yesterday, Tuesday, March 8, 2022.

[Winehole23]

ruh roh

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/first-dog-in-illinois-diagnosed-with-covid-19/2769748/

[Adam Lambert]

With

* Original Wuhan-Fauci variant infection
* Two Pfizer shots
* Omicron-AIDS variant infection

How worried should I be?

I'm done

The article is about post-Covid effects on the brain, not the risk of reinfection. You continue to be exhibit A.

[RandomGuy]

I wouldn't count on COVID to thin the ranks enough to tilt elections and anyway, immune escape is already vitiating this effect.

I also think celebrating the death of political adversaries by COVID is an L for public health. Death is hardly the only metric that counts and cheering on an infectious disease is barbarity, more or less.

The anti-vaxxers will not get boosters, and will continue to die at appreciably greater rates.

It won't thin the ranks of the fascist party appreciably this year or even next, but factor in the increased mortality over a decade...

I wouldn't say I am "cheering this on" when I post something similar, but I am definitely not going to feel sorry for there being fewer fascist voters in the country over the long term.

[Thread]

The anti-vaxxers will not get boosters, and will continue to die at appreciably greater rates.

It won't thin the ranks of the fascist party appreciably this year or even next, but factor in the increased mortality over a decade...

I wouldn't say I am "cheering this on" when I post something similar, but I am definitely not going to feel sorry for there being fewer fascist voters in the country over the long term.

And you damn well better not, sweetheart. I'll be all over you like ugly on an ape.

[SnakeBoy]

ruh roh

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/first-dog-in-illinois-diagnosed-with-covid-19/2769748/

Buddy this is 2020 news. When Covid successfully recombines with another beta coronavirus in an animal host and creates an entirely new pandemic...that's when you say ruh roh. Might take hundreds of years, might take only months.

[SnakeBoy]

Destroyer can’t deploy because CO won’t get COVID vaccine, Navy says
https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2022/03/08/destroyer-cant-deploy-because-co-wont-get-covid-vaccine-navy-says/

[DMC]

I'm boosted and relatively unconcerned for myself, but I do try not to spread COVID to others when I'm in public because I'm not a sociopath. There are also people in my life who are more vulnerable than I, whom I wish to protect.

Good, you spread enough bullshit already.

[DMC]

Buddy this is 2020 news. When Covid successfully recombines with another beta coronavirus in an animal host and creates an entirely new pandemic...that's when you say ruh roh. Might take hundreds of years, might take only months.

Those dogs hang out with each other you know.

[pgardn]

Destroyer can’t deploy because CO won’t get COVID vaccine, Navy says
https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2022/03/08/destroyer-cant-deploy-because-co-wont-get-covid-vaccine-navy-says/

He wont follow orders and he joined the armed forces.
Snake thinks the CO was told to kill a Vietnamese kid or something...

[pgardn]

Buddy this is 2020 news. When Covid successfully recombines with another beta coronavirus in an animal host and creates an entirely new pandemic...that's when you say ruh roh. Might take hundreds of years, might take only months.

So you are calling this or not?

[SnakeBoy]

So you are calling this or not?

Yes I'm calling it. It will happen within the next 200 years. I'll wager any amount you want on it.

[InRareForm]

BA2 numbers going up

[Winehole23]

preprint, hamsters

Hong Kong's case rate and hospitalization curves are nearly vertical. South Korea and Singapore are having worst ever spikes. Australia is projecting cases will double there in the next 2-3 weeks. The UK has rising hospitalization.

it's one big world, it would be amazing if we had no spike here.

time will tell


Soon after the emergence and global spread of a new severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) Omicron lineage, BA.1 (ref1 (https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.02.14.480335v1#ref-1), 2 (https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.02.14.480335v1#ref-2)), another Omicron lineage, BA.2, has initiated outcompeting BA.1. Statistical analysis shows that the effective reproduction number of BA.2 is 1.4-fold higher than that of BA.1. Neutralisation experiments show that the vaccine-induced humoral immunity fails to function against BA.2 like BA.1, and notably, the antigenicity of BA.2 is different from BA.1. Cell culture experiments show that BA.2 is more replicative in human nasal epithelial cells and more fusogenic than BA.1. Furthermore, infection experiments using hamsters show that BA.2 is more pathogenic than BA.1. Our multiscale investigations suggest that the risk of BA.2 for global health is potentially higher than that of BA.1.https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.02.14.480335v1

[CosmicCowboy]

He wont follow orders and he joined the armed forces.
Snake thinks the CO was told to kill a Vietnamese kid or something...

Now that we know vaccination does absolutely nothing to prevent acquiring or passing on Covid, what is the logic of the 100% vaccination mandates?

[RandomGuy]

Destroyer can’t deploy because CO won’t get COVID vaccine, Navy says
https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2022/03/08/destroyer-cant-deploy-because-co-wont-get-covid-vaccine-navy-says/

:cry vaccines :cry BOOT HIM, DISHONORABLE DISCHARGE.

Vaccines have been mandatory for the armed forces of the United States since we have had armed forces. The "religious freedumb" argument is about to get its pee pee smacked by SCOTUS.

:rollin the irony. :lol Christian theo-fascists

[DarrinS]

"Reinfection with BA.2 following infection with BA.1 has been documented, however, initial data from population-level studies suggest that infection with BA.1 provides substantial protection against reinfection with BA.2, at least for the limited period for which data are available."

-WHO

[RandomGuy]

Now that we know vaccination does absolutely nothing to prevent acquiring or passing on Covid, what is the logic of the 100% vaccination mandates?

To prevent serious illness and death. Just like every other vaccine.

[DarrinS]

1500559179437723649

[CosmicCowboy]

To prevent serious illness and death. Just like every other vaccine.

I get that, and can even see where in the military where they are responsible for providing health care it is beneficial to them. but in other cases I think it's dumb. I have some customers that require anyone that works there to be vaccinated. I don't see the point in that since a vaccinated person can spread covid just as easily as an unvaccinated one.

[pgardn]

Yes I'm calling it. It will happen within the next 200 years. I'll wager any amount you want on it.

Slinks back under a rock…

[pgardn]

Now that we know vaccination does absolutely nothing to prevent acquiring or passing on Covid, what is the logic of the 100% vaccination mandates?

We know nothing of the sort.
where the hell did you get this nonsense?

[CosmicCowboy]

We know nothing of the sort.
where the hell did you get this nonsense?

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/delta-variant-vaccines-protect-from-severe-disease-but-do-not-stop-all-transmission#How-Delta-can-spread-among-vaccinated-people


The research shows that the Delta variant of the SARS-CoV-2 virus can transmit from fully vaccinated people, who can have similar amounts of it in their airways as someone who is unvaccinated.

[Ef-man]

To prevent serious illness and death. Just like every other vaccine.

Or prevent brain shrinkage and memory loss but then again, I have not had covid once much less twice.

Study: COVID-19 Can Cause Brain Shrinkage, Memory Loss.

[pgardn]

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/delta-variant-vaccines-protect-from-severe-disease-but-do-not-stop-all-transmission#How-Delta-can-spread-among-vaccinated-people


CAN be... of course it can be depending on the recipients ability to amount an immune response.
This was true with the first few strain of the virus. It appears to be true that the new strains have a higher likelihood of allowing one to get infected, manufacture virus, and release virus that is viable and capable of infecting others. The underlined is quite a tedious process and the steps the virus can be halted are many if a person is vaccinated. The underlined is what certain people on this site do not understand or are disingenuous about and thus make statements that are wrong.

"Now that we know vaccination does absolutely nothing to prevent acquiring or passing on Covid, what is the logic of the 100% vaccination mandates?"

This is absolutely wrong.

[pgardn]

People did not read the study.
"If the virus was already present in the airways" This means the virus was already about through with a successful cycle in a vaccinated or unvaccinated person. This means the person vaccinated or unvaccinated already had virus ready to spread. So this is very specific. Furthermore...

Do people read these things... from the article. And this statement could go into much more detail:




Dr. Clarke says: “[T]he fact that a vaccine reduces someone’s chance of getting [the infection] in the first place means that while the vaccines don’t provide complete protection against transmission, they are not completely ineffective.”

Now an added bonus, the vaccine also makes actually getting Covid (meaning, you got infected by the virus and you got some of symptoms) and associated symptoms much milder. Honestly the misinformation on this still out of control.

[Thread]

People did not read the study.
"If the virus was already present in the airways" This means the virus was already about through with a successful cycle in a vaccinated or unvaccinated person. This means the person vaccinated or unvaccinated already had virus ready to spread. So this is very specific. Furthermore...

Do people read these things... from the article. And this statement could go into much more detail:




Dr. Clarke says: “[T]he fact that a vaccine reduces someone’s chance of getting [the infection] in the first place means that while the vaccines don’t provide complete protection against transmission, they are not completely ineffective.”

Now an added bonus, the vaccine also makes actually getting Covid (meaning, you got infected by the virus and you got some of symptoms) and associated symptoms much milder. Honestly the misinformation on this still out of control.




It got fucked royally by this event...

Trump President.
Not Clinton.

If, on the other hand she'd a won as scheduled COVID would have had a completely different face than the one we smashed on it at the first. We fucking knew EVERYTHING then as we know EVERYTHING now, but, Trump fucked it up by making President..."We can either help him, or, keep him locked hand and foot to the whipping post we've had him pegged on for 3 years." It'd be like in -Superman- when they took that vote on Zod..."Guilty, Guilty, Guilty..."

Oh, the tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.

What we did there at the first is absolute living proof that you can't get that toothpaste back in that fuckin' tube for all the rice in China.

[boutons_deux]

they are not completely ineffective.”


?
so what the fuck are they?

[SnakeBoy]

BTS Fans Won’t Be Allowed to Clap or Yell at Their Upcoming Korea Concerts
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/bts-fans-won-t-allowed-032400387.html

South Korea bending the curve :tu

[pgardn]

?
so what the fuck are they?

The statement I put down is from the doctor who wrote the paper commenting( not from ME) ... You can write him. Below is what this says to me along with the other studies we have:

Uhhhh.... boots.
The vaccines fkn work.
But as I already said, the vaccines are not as effective on the new variant but they absolutely WORK in preventing getting the disease and thus transmitting the disease.

And if you do get the disease, you are more likely to get a milder symptom case. Thats two good characteristics.


Now add to this, this study was done on people who already had approximately equal amounts of virus to spread in the breathing passages!
The group as a whole was "poised" to spread the disease. What a surprise, both the vaccinated and unvaccinated people who had ALREADY had viruses in their breathing passages were able to pass it on! WOW... A miracle, who would have thought...?

What would you like to call it boots?
Sorry but I cannot characterize this paper as saying what CC claims it did.

[pgardn]

It got fucked royally by this event...

Trump President.
Not Clinton.



Agree.
This is where the confusion started on the virus.
With a confused president who did not have a clue.

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Agree.
This is where the confusion started on the virus.
With a confused president who did not have a clue.

On the contrary, he'd been made well aware of the "prognosis negative."---"Nothing will touch it. Americans are going to die, there is nothing you can do to stop it. We'll have to herd it out like a century ago. That's it, Mr. President. Oh, just one more thing, sir...

"You can't say that out loud like that sir." And he didn't.

That 2 year old Oval Office briefly holds fast over 2 years later...we lost another 2,000 to it today. Coyly State run media CNN stated a year ago..."We may be done with COVID, but COVID isn't done with us." The bitter truth has never been more dead on than that troll by CNN.

And Biden had the identical briefing 2 January's ago. Hussein a bit after President Trump had the first briefing. They all knew and know.

[pgardn]

On the contrary, he'd been made well aware of the "prognosis negative."---"Nothing will touch it. Americans are going to die, there is nothing you can do to stop it. We'll have to herd it out like a century ago. That's it, Mr. President. Oh, just one more thing, sir...

"You can't say that out loud like that sir." And he didn't.

That 2 year old Oval Office briefly holds fast over 2 years later...we lost another 2,000 to it today. Coyly State run media CNN stated a year ago..."We may be done with COVID, but COVID isn't done with us." The bitter truth has never been more dead on than that troll by CNN.

And Biden had the identical briefing 2 January's ago. Hussein a bit after President Trump had the first briefing. They all knew and know.

Oh.
Thats where Trump said we were "right around the corner" and it would be gone. Okay.
Then started in with his own assessment on how to "kill" the virus in front of doctor Birx (who looked like she was ready the throw up)

Trump: "Isnt that right Dr. Birx?"
Dr. Birx: "I am going to projectile vomit in your face Mr. President..."

That was one of the "always to remember" press conferences.
Thanks for the memories.

[Thread]

Oh.
Thats where Trump said we were "right around the corner" and it would be gone. Okay.
Then started in with his own assessment on how to "kill" the virus in front of doctor Birx (who looked like she was ready the throw up)

Trump: "Isnt that right Dr. Birx?"
Dr. Birx: "I am going to projectile vomit in your face Mr. President..."

That was one of the "always to remember" press conferences.
Thanks for the memories.

Oh, you'd rather have him come out and tell the truth: "I've just been briefed by professionals who know when they speak. Nothing will touch it. Americans are going to die, there is nothing you can do to stop it. We'll have to herd it out like a century ago."

[pgardn]

Oh, you'd rather have him come out and tell the truth: "I've just been briefed by professionals who know when they speak. Nothing will touch it. Americans are going to die, there is nothing you can do to stop it. We'll have to herd it out like a century ago."






Yeah well that would be another set of lies.

There is one thing Trump had a very difficult time saying: "We dont know exactly where we are with this virus in the future but, this is what we know right now"

List:

"Here are possibilities for the future which could be wrong but still could happen."

List

And here is a list of things we should all know about viruses in general and then how this virus differs...

List

But instead he wanders off proclaiming more people are watching him than watched Monday Night Football...
So, he got his ass handed to him in an election for being a narcissistic pos.

[Thread]

Yeah well that would be another set of lies.

There is one thing Trump had a very difficult time saying: "We dont know exactly where we are with this virus in the future but, this is what we know right now"

List:

"Here are possibilities for the future which could be wrong but still could happen."

List

And here is a list of things we should all know about viruses in general and then how this virus differs...

List

But instead he wanders off proclaiming more people are watching him than watched Monday Night Football...
So, he got his ass handed to him in an election for being a narcissistic pos.

What's worse, President Trump's application, or, Biden, swearing upon the Good Book that he would "shut it down."? A year later Biden has added 600,000 more dead Americans to the COVID kill count, no end in sight...we're just moving on now to (living with it) while still dying from it, peeg. But now it's okay because President Trump has been sacked.

You got lucky, peeg.

[pgardn]

What's worse, President Trump's application, or, Biden, swearing upon the Good Book that he would "shut it down."? A year later Biden has added 600,000 more dead Americans to the COVID kill count, no end in sight...we're just moving on now to (living with it) while still dying from it, peeg. But now it's okay because President Trump has been sacked.

You got lucky, peeg.

No one got lucky with a disease like this.

Joe Biden in Trump's spot would not have made a difference in how bad it was going to be at first.
But the shit about all the stupid knock off miracle cures, not touting the vaccine, and going with this stupid ass populist shit about masks taking away freedom...
Trump let loose a slew of nuts that were lying below the surface in this country. We could have done much better than we have done. And Biden has made mistakes as well. But in the beginning, when it is so important to attack this on a National health care level, while realizing different areas are going to require different rules at different times .... this was absolutely awful. He went with an ignorant bases' opinion and then suggested stupid unproven drugs. He successfully tore apart any hope of a national effort and made it into a political plaything. We all know this. Its the same thing as the stupid defund the police instead of reform the police (Which has been used before and has not worked).

[Winehole23]

Just in time for BA.2.2


The United States is poised to run out of tests, treatments and vaccines to fight the coronavirus (https://www.washingtonpost.com/coronavirus/?itid=lk_inline_manual_2) after a $15.6 billion funding plan collapsed in Congress on Wednesday, alarming health-care advocates and raising concerns about the fate of President Biden’s broader covid response plan.

“Testing capacity … will decline this month. In April, free testing and treatments for tens of millions of Americans without health insurance will end. In May, America’s supply of monoclonal antibodies will run out,” White House press secretary Jen Psaki said during a briefing on Thursday.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/03/10/congress-covid-funding/

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNh_i5zVkAMRrFy?format=jpg&name=900x900

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1502085373941493765?t

[ElNono]

Damn, Becker gothem

[Thread]

Damn, Becker gothem

Jen Socky: "Don't believe it for a second. That's just them saying "Nazi" because we said it, and we said it first,,,I mean it's just them saying bio weapons because they're going to use them on Ukraine like in an hour, maybe less. There, I got it right that time. Every time we do something wrong it's because Putin is going to do it wrong too and he outs us first before doing it, uh, wrong. Okay, I have to go now. Bye."

[ElNono]

Jen Socky: "Don't believe it for a second. That's just them saying "Nazi" because we said it, and we said it first,,,I mean it's just them saying bio weapons because they're going to use them on Ukraine like in an hour, maybe less. There, I got it right that time. Every time we do something wrong it's because Putin is going to do it wrong too and he outs us first before doing it, uh, wrong. Okay, I have to go now. Bye."

This is why you watch CNN... they have hawt Jen on the clock...

[Thread]

This is why you watch CNN... they have hawt Jen on the clock...

...she's so damn ugly that it's frankly a turn on for me. :rolleyes

[Winehole23]

BA.2 out of control in Netherlands (test positivity 70%) and Germany (45%).

[Winehole23]

Wastewater is a leading indicator

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNja-95XEAAMRII?format=jpg&name=large

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNkqd5MX0AAsoA3?format=png&name=900x900

[Winehole23]

R0 for BA.2 is estimated to be in the range of 12-14, about 30-40% more infectious than OG Omicron.

[Winehole23]

Masking works best when everybody does it.


Schools with mandatory masking during the Delta surge had approximately 72% fewer cases of in-school transmission of SARS-CoV-2 when compared to schools with optional or partial masking policies, according to a study funded by the National Institutes of Health. The study included more than 1.1 million students and over 157,000 staff attending in-person school across nine states: North Carolina, Wisconsin, Missouri, California, Washington, Georgia, Tennessee, Kansas and Texas.


In the current study, most COVID-19 cases among students and staff were acquired from the community and approximately 10% of cases were acquired within school. The researchers found that for every 100 community-acquired cases, school districts with mandatory masking had approximately 7.3 cases of in-school infections, while optionally masked districts had 26.4 cases of in-school infections. In other words, school districts with optional masking had approximately 3.6 times the rate of in-school COVID-19 cases when compared to schools with mandatory masking. https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/doi/10.1542/peds.2022-056687/185379/School-Masking-Policies-and-Secondary-SARS-CoV-2

[Thread]

Masking works best when everybody does it.



https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/doi/10.1542/peds.2022-056687/185379/School-Masking-Policies-and-Secondary-SARS-CoV-2

Nothing changed in over a 100 years...

Then: "A piece of gauze proved worthless."

Now: 1 million Americans dead of the COVID. No end in sight.

[boutons_deux]

Delta & Omicron have merged so Deltacron is on the way

[DarrinS]

Delta & Omicron have merged so Deltacron is on the way

Yeah, ok. :rolleyes

[koriwhat]

BA.2 out of control in Netherlands (test positivity 70%) and Germany (45%).

Who truly cares? :lol

[koriwhat]

Delta & Omicron have merged so Deltacron is on the way

You're such a dumbfuck bouts.

[Winehole23]

We've seen this movie four times, we're about to see it again.

It's too bad vaccinations have stalled out, it's also too bad the next generation of vaccines won't arrive in time for the next spike. It's also too bad the old tech, super cheap, super scalable, patent free vaccine developed in Texas (Corbevax) isn't getting more traction.

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[Winehole23]

Cross-infection with hamsters?

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[Winehole23]

and white-tailed deer?

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[Thread]

We've seen this movie four times, we're about to see it again.

It's too bad vaccinations have stalled out, it's also too bad the next generation of vaccines won't arrive in time for the next spike. It's also too bad the old tech, super cheap, super scalable, patent free vaccine developed in Texas (Corbevax) isn't getting more traction.

1475922603109978125

All you have to do is be ready with the cash and you'll get the new vaccine(s.) But now we already did COVID, did the vaccines, spent that money without grudging it, but we're not going to do that again. We've moved on. The problem is COVID hasn't moved on. So, we've decided to live with it. COVID is ready.

Let us proceed...

[SnakeBoy]

Obama has covid :lmao

[ElNono]

Obama has covid :lmao

It's ok, he's like you, vaccinated and boosted :tu

[Adam Lambert]

Obama has covid :lmao

Bless your heart, you try so hard.

[Thread]

Obama has covid :lmao

:lmao:lmao:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Bless your heart, you try so hard.

:lol Darrin just derping out now.

[ElNono]

Pfizer CEO says another Covid booster will be needed
Albert Bourla's comments continue a roller-coaster pattern of differing communication from the pharmaceutical company and the government as the pandemic enters its third year.

Pfizer’s chief executive said on Sunday that another Covid-19 booster shot would be necessary, voicing support for a fourth vaccine dose before the FDA has determined whether to recommend it to the American public.

Albert Bourla, the CEO of the company that created the first FDA-authorized vaccine to lower the risk of contracting Covid and lessen the disease’s serious effects, told CBS’ Margaret Brennan that current data indicated a fourth shot was necessary. He said two days earlier that the company was close to submitting “a significant package of data about the need for a fourth dose” to the FDA.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/13/pfizer-covid-booster-ceo-00016883

---

I'll wait for the good doctor Fauci recommendation, tbh

[Winehole23]

a fourth jab seems to have been a good move for Israel

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHuHunIXwAcurE7?format=jpg&name=small

1502399880064606210 (https://twitter.com/dgurdasani1/status/1502399880064606210?s=20&t=saXwTB1k3i4O7h1mscc3mw)

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[Thread]

"this virus becomes fitter - more able to transmit, more able to evade. There is a huge space for adaptation, and who know where it'll go next? What worries me"

Let us proceed...

[Winehole23]

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[SnakeBoy]

1477761128641953793

1477764273703030789

WhataWeWant?
Duct tape AC filters on box fans NOW!

(repeat)

[Thread]

1477761128641953793

1477764273703030789

I'll boil this down for the gang...here's the hook...

[[[We just need to scale ventilation, filtration, and UVC.]]]

100 years ago:::"A piece of gauze proved worthless."

100 years later:::1 million Americans dead in the ground. No end in sight.

Let us proceed...

[Winehole23]

The mechanism isn't known, but it appears SARS-CoV-2 , like AIDS, infects and kills T-cells.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41392-022-00919-x

[Winehole23]

Wastewater detection has been a reliable leading indicator or of new outbreaks.

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[Winehole23]

Information, not fear. Be prepared, Omicron probably wasn't the last wave and the next one might come sooner than you think.

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[Winehole23]

Abbott's plandemic. It's all about wielding power, Gov. Hot Wheels doesn't give a shit about you or your health.

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[Winehole23]

SARS-CoV-2 fucks up your immune system. A wide array of new onset autoantibodies have been found in patients with severe cases.


Autoantibodies are identified in approximately 50% of patients but in less than 15% of healthy controls. When present, autoantibodies largely target autoantigens associated with rare disorders such as myositis, systemic sclerosis and overlap syndromes. A subset of autoantibodies targeting traditional autoantigens or cytokines develop de novo following SARS-CoV-2 infection. Autoantibodies track with longitudinal development of IgG antibodies recognizing SARS-CoV-2 structural proteins and a subset of non-structural proteins, but not proteins from influenza, seasonal coronaviruses or other pathogenic viruses. We conclude that SARS-CoV-2 causes development of new-onset IgG autoantibodies in a significant proportion of hospitalized COVID-19 patients and are positively correlated with immune responses to SARS-CoV-2 proteinshttps://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-25509-3

[koriwhat]

How many bodies does Biden have now due to the CHINA VIRUS? Bueller? Bueller?

[InRareForm]

Time for a costco trip. Lockdown in China means another supply chain delay right when things were getting better

[koriwhat]

Time for a costco trip. Lockdown in China means another supply chain delay right when things were getting better

I def need to stock up on food I can store. I have yet to do any prepping whatsoever. Not good...

[boutons_deux]

US Sewer Data and Surges Abroad Should Remind Us the Pandemic Isn’t Over

The numbers are inching up, again. “A wastewater network that monitors for Covid-19 trends is warning that cases are once again rising in many parts of the U.S.,

“More than a third of the CDC’s wastewater sample sites across the U.S. showed rising Covid-19 trends in the period ending March 1 to March 10, though reported cases have stayed near a recent low.”

Scientists have been watching the BA.2 subvariant with growing levels of concern;

it is already making a strong showing in China and parts of Europe.

It is entirely possible BA.2 is already present here in the U.S., and is at least partially responsible for the rise in cases across the country.

The news may tell you we’re returning to “normalcy,” but 8,000 dead a week tells a different story;

if this uptick continues, it runs the risk of taxing our already-battered health care infrastructure if/when BA.2 does come knocking.

https://truthout.org/articles/us-sewer-data-and-surges-abroad-should-remind-us-the-pandemic-isnt-over/

=====================

Deaths

The current 7-day moving average of new deaths (1,180) has decreased 25.0% compared with the previous 7-day moving average (1,572).

As of March 9, 2022, a total of 961,620 COVID-19 deaths have been reported in the United States.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html

[Thread]

US Sewer Data and Surges Abroad Should Remind Us the Pandemic Isn’t Over

The numbers are inching up, again. “A wastewater network that monitors for Covid-19 trends is warning that cases are once again rising in many parts of the U.S.,

“More than a third of the CDC’s wastewater sample sites across the U.S. showed rising Covid-19 trends in the period ending March 1 to March 10, though reported cases have stayed near a recent low.”

Scientists have been watching the BA.2 subvariant with growing levels of concern;

it is already making a strong showing in China and parts of Europe.

It is entirely possible BA.2 is already present here in the U.S., and is at least partially responsible for the rise in cases across the country.

The news may tell you we’re returning to “normalcy,” but 8,000 dead a week tells a different story;

if this uptick continues, it runs the risk of taxing our already-battered health care infrastructure if/when BA.2 does come knocking.

https://truthout.org/articles/us-sewer-data-and-surges-abroad-should-remind-us-the-pandemic-isnt-over/

=====================

Deaths

The current 7-day moving average of new deaths (1,180) has decreased 25.0% compared with the previous 7-day moving average (1,572).

As of March 9, 2022, a total of 961,620 COVID-19 deaths have been reported in the United States.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html

...No, as of 3.15.2022, 992,300 Americans have died of the COVID.

& counting, bouts.

Let us proceed...

[Winehole23]

China's vaccine is crappy and HK hasn't been very good at getting older folks vaxxed. Downside perhaps of successfully containing COVID so far. Illusion of control. BA.2 is the most infectious variant we've seen yet, containment might not work this time in China. It's already out of control in HK.

Disruption to the supply chain is already happening, Shenzhen is locked down, Foxconn is temporarily closed for business.

Eric Feigl Ding is too enthusiastic in general about COVID dangers, but I assume since he's talking about China in this case, dedicated COVID deniers/minimizers/herd death cheerleaders on this board will approve.

https://medriva.com/china-at-a-covid-tipping-point/#gs.ty5me0

[Winehole23]

Brandon's CYA. It's the culmination of a year of inept public health messaging and cynical pandering to the "back to normal" narrative.

tl;dr

we're unprepared for the next spike, the US Congress cut the money off and Brandon's waving the white flag.


https://www.npr.org/2022/03/15/1086653838/the-white-house-says-its-running-out-of-money-to-cover-covid-tests-and-vaccines

[Winehole23]

we had the tools, but we're over that now

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[Winehole23]

we're not even out of the woods in the current pandemic and we've stopped preparing for this one

[Winehole23]

Denmark only mildly affected

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[Thread]

we had the tools, but we're over that now

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Now we're funneling THAT cash into the Ukraine rat hole. Why? Simple...

Putin President.
Not Biden.

[SnakeBoy]

we're not even out of the woods in the current pandemic and we've stopped preparing for this one

It's over whinehole. Peepaw let er rip. Take off the mask and go outside to get your sniffles.

[InRareForm]

7 day US covid deaths/day average is above 1k but everyone thinks we are back to normal. Smh

[Thread]

7 day US covid deaths/day average is above 1k but everyone thinks we are back to normal. Smh

Lost another 2,437 Americans today, 3.16.2022 to the COVID.

[Winehole23]

Bonkers

No more PPE in research labs?

Verboten to request that others wear name tags, matching t-shirts or funny hats to meetings on campus?

So much for personal choice.

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[boutons_deux]

Higher Rates Of New Type 2 Diabetes After Infection With Mild COVID-19


https://scienceblog.com/528832/higher-rates-of-new-type-2-diabetes-after-infection-with-mild-covid-19

[boutons_deux]

Covid victims with serious long-covid disabilities having a hard time proving it, cannot work, cannot obtain disability payment.

Covid-ed into long term poverty

Also, covid brain damage will produce Ms of early-onset dementia in the next decades.

30K+ covid dead/month STILL, both parties block any more funds for pandemic mitigation, with USA gonna be hit with an inevitable spike now hitting Europe.

[SnakeBoy]

Bonkers

No more PPE in research labs?

Verboten to request that others wear name tags, matching t-shirts or funny hats to meetings on campus?

So much for personal choice.

1504162341193191432

MIT Following Da Science :tu

[BackHome]

Damn China, South Korea, and Germany are getting hammered by Covid right now - Is the new variant doing this or is it just the last variant?

[Thread]

Damn China, South Korea, and Germany are getting hammered by Covid right now - Is the new variant doing this or is it just the last variant?

Our "New Case" count is activating as well.

[Winehole23]

Damn China, South Korea, and Germany are getting hammered by Covid right now - Is the new variant doing this or is it just the last variant?it's the new variant. it's about to hammer us too.

[Winehole23]

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[Thread]

COVID killed another 1,333 Americans yesterday, Thursday, 3.17.2022.

[koriwhat]

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^ Forever slaves to the narrative! :lol

[Thread]

POLITICS (https://www.foxnews.com/politics)
Fauci's back and says lockdowns could be too (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fauci-warns-americans-could-face-more-lockdowns-amid-spread-of-new-covid-19-variant)
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They know something we don't know, do-dah, do-dah, they know something we don't know all the do-dah day.

[ElNono]

POLITICS (https://www.foxnews.com/politics)
Fauci's back and says lockdowns could be too (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fauci-warns-americans-could-face-more-lockdowns-amid-spread-of-new-covid-19-variant)
---------

They know something we don't know, do-dah, do-dah, they know something we don't know all the do-dah day.

The good doctor Fauci...

:worthy::worthy::worthy:

[boutons_deux]

Europe is getting socked hard by the new variant so it's no mystery that USA is going to get socked also in a few weeks. Perhaps it will be the dominant strain

[DarrinS]

I'm getting vaxxed again.

:lol

[ElNono]

I'm getting vaxxed again.

What are you getting for your next booster? Haven't kept track of the newer vaccines, tbh

[DarrinS]

What are you getting for your next booster? Haven't kept track of the newer vaccines, tbh

:lol

[DarrinS]

Just live your lives, dipshits

[ElNono]

Just live your lives, dipshits

We are, dipshit

[DarrinS]

We are, dipshit

You've probably already had a natural booster, dipshit

[ElNono]

You've probably already had a natural booster, dipshit

I didn't so far, dipshit. What are you crying about, exactly? You seem to be upset that some people aren't scared of a needle and 10 mins of their time.

[baseline bum]

LOL Karrin so offended by people getting vaccinated

[DarrinS]

LOL Karrin so offended by people getting vaccinated

Vax to your hearts content.

[DarrinS]

Mask to your hearts content.

[DMC]

Vax to your hearts content.


Mask to your hearts content.

Wax your ass till your farts repent

[ChumpDumper]

Vax to your hearts content.


Mask to your hearts content.

Cry to your heart's content.

Whine to your heart's content.

[Winehole23]

Ivermectin cheerleaders like DarrinS and Snake Boy still think we should keep studying Ivermectin until their priors are confirmed.

Meanwhile, real world studies keep showing it doesn't do diddly .

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2789362

[Winehole23]

Austria reversed course on mask mandates two weeks after ditching them.

[BackHome]

Well China has something like 40 million people on lock downs and everyone wears masks yet pretty much the new outbreak has infected most of there country. They are even coming to the conclusion that they are not going to be able to lock themselves out of this mess.

[Winehole23]

Statistical slight of hand makes the the risk "disappear"

Using a lagging indicator like hospitalization will tend to ensure public health guidance comes too late.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMtTZDDVgAIPY2-?format=jpg&name=900x900

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMmNOxhVQAMBCh5?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Winehole23]

Well China has something like 40 million people on lock downs and everyone wears masks yet pretty much the new outbreak has infected most of there country. They are even coming to the conclusion that they are not going to be able to lock themselves out of this mess.what a wild overstatement. typical for you, though.

[Winehole23]

Mild cases can experience cognitive impairment. Other studies have correlated decerebration -- loss of brain tissue.

"just a cold"


3.3 Cognitive functioning following COVID-19 recovery

The case-control studies reported mainly consistent results; all found significantly lower scores in cognition in the post-COVID-19 patient group compared to controls. Although some studies found deficits in global scores of screening measures23 (https://alz-journals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/alz.12644#alz12644-bib-0023), 24 (https://alz-journals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/alz.12644#alz12644-bib-0024) and sub-scores of attention, memory, and executive functions, others25 (https://alz-journals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/alz.12644#alz12644-bib-0025) found deficits in only specific cognitive domains, principally attention. A study focusing on a young population (mean age 42.2 ± 14.3 years) reported cognitive impairment on Montreal Cognitive Assessment (MoCA) in COVID-19 patients, which did not correlate with neuropsychiatric symptoms or disease severity.26 (https://alz-journals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/alz.12644#alz12644-bib-0026)


Cohort studies showed a high occurrence of moderate cognitive impairment in post-COVID-19 patients, exceeding 50% in all studies that reported prevalence,12 (https://alz-journals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/alz.12644#alz12644-bib-0012), 15 (https://alz-journals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/alz.12644#alz12644-bib-0015), 16 (https://alz-journals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/alz.12644#alz12644-bib-0016), 27 (https://alz-journals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/alz.12644#alz12644-bib-0027) ranging from 54% in a cohort of consecutive patients admitted to hospital with moderate COVID-1915 (https://alz-journals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/alz.12644#alz12644-bib-0015) to 65% in a cohort of moderate to severe patients.27 (https://alz-journals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/alz.12644#alz12644-bib-0027) A study16 (https://alz-journals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/alz.12644#alz12644-bib-0016) on patients with moderate to severe COVID-19 (mean age 57, interquartile range [IQR] 49-67) reported that 58.7% met criteria for moderate neurocognitive impairment and 18.4% for severe neurocognitive impairment 2 months after discharge. Specifically, the cognitive domains mostly impaired were immediate verbal memory impairment (38% moderate, 11.2% severe) and semantic verbal fluency (34.6% moderate deficits and 8.4% severe). In addition, studies found cognitive deficits in verbal fluency, attention, executive functions, and delayed memory.12 (https://alz-journals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/alz.12644#alz12644-bib-0012), 15 (https://alz-journals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/alz.12644#alz12644-bib-0015),
https://alz-journals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/alz.12644

[SnakeBoy]

Ivermectin cheerleaders like DarrinS and Snake Boy still think we should keep studying Ivermectin until their priors are confirmed.

Meanwhile, real world studies keep showing it doesn't do diddly .

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2789362

That is one more study showing ivermectin works better than remdesivir, which Fauci called "the standard of care".

[DarrinS]

Ivermectin cheerleaders like DarrinS and Snake Boy still think we should keep studying Ivermectin until their priors are confirmed.

Meanwhile, real world studies keep showing it doesn't do diddly .

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2789362



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[SnakeBoy]

ICU admission in 2.5% in the ivermectin group vs 3.2% in the control group
Mechanical ventilation 1.7% in the ivermectin group vs 4.0% in the control group
Mortality 1.2% in the ivermectin group vs 4% in the control group

Better than Remdesivir

lol Fauci

[ChumpDumper]

That is one more study showing ivermectin works better than remdesivir, which Fauci called "the standard of care".Is the one of the studies you cited?

CLAIM: A recently published study shows that ivermectin is more effective than remdesivir in reducing mortality when treating COVID-19.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: Missing context. The research detailed in the one-page abstract was not from a peer-reviewed study, nor was it a clinical trial. It relied on existing data from patient records and the full manuscript was withdrawn after the authors and reviewers found major flaws, including that the patients given ivermectin were on average younger and less sick than the hospitalized patients administered remdesivir. The researchers and experts told The Associated Press that the findings are no longer relevant.

THE FACTS: Social media users are misinterpreting a research paper abstract (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1201971221009887#!), falsely claiming its findings prove that the anti-parasitic drug ivermectin is an effective treatment for COVID-19, and may be more effective than the approved antiviral medicine remdesivir.

https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-136056839408

[SnakeBoy]

Is the one of the studies you cited?



I'm citing the numbers from whinehole's JAMA study. Better than remdesivir. lol Fauci.

[boutons_deux]

Ivermectin didn’t protect people from COVID-19


ivermectin didn’t reduce hospital admissions,

Most evidence has shown it to be ineffective against Covid-19 or has relied on data of poor quality

the drug hasn’t shown any benefit in treating the disease.

Taking large doses of the drug is dangerous,

The latest trial, of nearly 1,400 Covid-19 patients at risk of severe disease, is the largest to show that

those who received ivermectin as a treatment didn’t fare better than those who received a placebo.

“There was no indication that ivermectin is clinically useful,”

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ivermectin-didnt-protect-people-from-covid-19-study-shows-11647602256

[ChumpDumper]

I'm citing the numbers from whinehole's JAMA study. Better than remdesivir. lol Fauci.

But did you cite the other one too?

[ElNono]

That is one more study showing ivermectin works better than remdesivir, which Fauci called "the standard of care".

It was the "standard of care" at the time (April 2020, when he said that), when there was nothing else.

lol Trumptards

[boutons_deux]

Moderna, Pfizer Push For 4th Doses Despite Only Minor Benefits in Study

a study conducted at the Sheba Medical Centre in Tel Aviv, Israel, found that Israeli

healthcare workers who received a fourth shot at the height of the spread of the Omicron variant (https://www.newsweek.com/over-half-states-seeing-major-decline-covid-since-omicron-peak-1676920) only received marginally more protection than those who received just three.

https://www.newsweek.com/booster-shot-vaccine-covid-omicron-pfizer-moderna-1689406

BigPharm greed wants $Bs more

[SnakeBoy]

It was the "standard of care" at the time (April 2020, when he said that), when there was nothing else.

lol Trumptards

When he said it the NIH's own study showed remdesivir did not work. He knew full well it didn't work, he knew full well that labeling it the standard of care would force Docs to use it whether it worked or not, he knew full well what that meant for Gilead.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8667701/?msclkid=31708c00a80a11ec81b0b958cf001d98

"The standard of care is a legal term, not a medical term."

"Clinicians need to understand the concept of the standard of care. The standard of care is the benchmark that determines whether professional obligations to patients have been met. Failure to meet the standard of care is negligence, which can carry significant consequences for clinicians."

Why you covidians who used to complain about big pharma continue to worship the man I'll never understand

[ChumpDumper]

When he said it the NIH's own study showed remdesivir did not work. He knew full well it didn't work, he knew full well that labeling it the standard of care would force Docs to use it whether it worked or not, he knew full well what that meant for Gilead.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8667701/?msclkid=31708c00a80a11ec81b0b958cf001d98

"The standard of care is a legal term, not a medical term."

"Clinicians need to understand the concept of the standard of care. The standard of care is the benchmark that determines whether professional obligations to patients have been met. Failure to meet the standard of care is negligence, which can carry significant consequences for clinicians."

Why you covidians who used to complain about big pharma continue to worship the man I'll never understand

:lol you worship Trump

[HemisfairArena]

:lol you worship Trump

:lol you worship Biden

[ChumpDumper]

:lol you worship Biden:lol nope

I just love the fact that he murdered your dreams of a second Trump term.

b:lol:lolmers

[HemisfairArena]

:lol nope

I just love the fact that he murdered your dreams of a second Trump term.

b:lol:lolmers

:lol you still worship Biden

[ElNono]

When he said it the NIH's own study showed remdesivir did not work. He knew full well it didn't work, he knew full well that labeling it the standard of care would force Docs to use it whether it worked or not, he knew full well what that meant for Gilead.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8667701/?msclkid=31708c00a80a11ec81b0b958cf001d98

"The standard of care is a legal term, not a medical term."

"Clinicians need to understand the concept of the standard of care. The standard of care is the benchmark that determines whether professional obligations to patients have been met. Failure to meet the standard of care is negligence, which can carry significant consequences for clinicians."

Why you covidians who used to complain about big pharma continue to worship the man I'll never understand

Here's when he said it: April 29, 2020.

https://www.healio.com/news/infectious-disease/20200429/fauci-on-remdesivir-for-covid19-this-will-be-the-standard-of-care

Why are you coming back with a paper from July 2021? :lol Obviously things changed dramatically at that point, we had new treatments, a new variant, new studies and vaccines.

I'll never understand why you Trumptards have to be disingenuous to hate on a top notch professional that saved countless lives, tbh...

[ElNono]

:lol nope

I just love the fact that he murdered your dreams of a second Trump term.

b:lol:lolmers

:lol

[HemisfairArena]

:lol the Biden fan club has arrived,,,,

[ElNono]

#stillwithhim

[Winehole23]

It was the "standard of care" at the time (April 2020, when he said that), when there was nothing else.

lol TrumptardsThe linear nature of time is lost on these guys, they keep acting like the clock didn't move and shit didn't change.

[Thread]

The linear nature of time is lost on these guys, they keep acting like the clock didn't move and shit didn't change.

...it didn't.

Trump President.
Not Clinton.

[Winehole23]

I've got thread on ignore, but if I had to guess, he just proved my point.

[Ef-man]

The linear nature of time is lost on these guys, they keep acting like the clock didn't move and shit didn't change.

Forget time, the MAGAtards are suffering from PTSD after the 2020 election schlonging they received from Sleepy Joe.

They were permanently brain damaged like the kid jerking off to a playboy magazine nude after he realizes that it is a nude of his grandma when she was young.

There is no coming back to normalcy after such trauma, ever.

Expect serious boomer moaning, groaning and yelling everyday of their lives as if Sleepy Joe supporters were kids stepping on their precious yard.

[Thread]

I've got thread on ignore, but if I had to guess, he just proved my point.

lmcontrollinao!!!

[koriwhat]

Forget time, the MAGAtards are suffering from PTSD after the 2020 election schlonging they received from Sleepy Joe.

They were permanently brain damaged like the kid jerking off to a playboy magazine nude after he realizes that it is a nude of his grandma when she was young.

There is no coming back to normalcy after such trauma, ever.

Expect serious boomer moaning, groaning and yelling everyday of their lives as if Sleepy Joe supporters were kids stepping on their precious yard.

Where do you get your piss poor "humor" from?

[koriwhat]

You gargle orange shits balls for breakfast. :lmao

Hit and a miss... Lame :tu

[Winehole23]

Letting er rip seems likely to bring on waves of early dementia and disability related to autoimmune disorders.

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Letting er rip seems likely to bring on waves of early dementia and disability related to autoimmune disorders.

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Joe wanted that commerce, Winester.

[Winehole23]

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[RandomGuy]

Letting er rip seems likely to bring on waves of early dementia and disability related to autoimmune disorders.

1506186898959740933

soooo the kinds of idiots in the maga cult are going to get DUMBER???

is that even possible?

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soooo the kinds of idiots in the maga cult are going to get DUMBER???

is that even possible?

Not at least 900k of 'em won't.

[Ef-man]

Who knew!

https://twitter.com/AosmanZeynep/status/1506314934988197896

[Ef-man]

https://twitter.com/April_Shorty_/status/1506314913710436352

[Winehole23]

Correlation with diabetes risk firms up

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[Winehole23]

Correlation with multiorgan impairment persisting at least a year, even in mild and asymptomatic cases.


Participants: 536 individuals (mean 45 years, 73% female, 89% white, 32% healthcare workers, 13% acute COVID-19 hospitalisation) completed baseline assessment (median: 6 months post-COVID-19). 331 (62%) with organ impairment or incidental findings had follow up, with reduced symptom burden from baseline (median number of symptoms: 10 and 3, at 6 and 12 months). Exposure: SARS-CoV-2 infection 6 months prior to first assessment. Main outcome: Prevalence of single and multi-organ impairment at 6 and 12 months post-COVID-19. Results: Extreme breathlessness (36% and 30%), cognitive dysfunction (50% and 38%) and poor health-related quality of life (EQ-5D-5L<0.7; 55% and 45%) were common at 6 and 12 months, and associated with female gender, younger age and single organ impairment. At baseline, there was fibro-inflammation in the heart (9%), pancreas (9%), kidney (15%) and liver (11%); increased volume in liver (7%), spleen (8%) and kidney (9%); decreased capacity in lungs (2%); and excessive fat deposition in the liver (25%) and pancreas (15%). Single and multi-organ impairment were present in 59% and 23% at baseline, persisting in 59% and 27% at follow-up. Conclusion and Relevance: Organ impairment was present in 59% of individuals at 6 months post-COVID-19, persisting in 59% of those followed up at 1 year, with implications for symptoms, quality of life and longer-term healthhttps://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.03.18.22272607v1

[Winehole23]

COVID is airborne, ventilation works


An Italian study published on Tuesday suggests that efficient ventilation systems can reduce the transmission of COVID-19 in schools by more than 80%.

An experiment overseen by the Hume foundation think-tank compared coronavirus contagion in 10,441 classrooms in Italy's central Marche region.https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/italian-study-shows-ventilation-can-cut-school-covid-cases-by-82-2022-03-22/

[Winehole23]

Correlation with myocarditis and heart damage firming up


According to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7035e5.htm), the risk of myocarditis after infection with COVID-19 is much higher, at 146 cases per 100,000. The risk is higher for males, older adults (ages 50+) and children under 16 years old. Soccer player Alphonso Davies, 21, of Canada’s national men’s team, was sidelined by heart inflammation after having COVID-19.

Myocarditis following COVID-19 vaccination is rare and the risk is much smaller than the risks of cardiac injury linked to COVID-19 itself.

Based on a study out of Israel (http://doi.org/10.1056/NEJMoa2110737), the risk of post-vaccine myocarditis is 2.13 cases per 100,000 vaccinated, which is within the range usually seen in the general population. This study is consistent with others in the United States and Israel which put the overall incidence of post-vaccine myocarditis between 0.3 and five cases per 100,000 people (https://doi.org/10.1038/s41569-021-00662-w).
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/getting-covid-19-is-much-riskier-for-your-heart-than-vaccination

[pgardn]

COVID is airborne, ventilation works

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/italian-study-shows-ventilation-can-cut-school-covid-cases-by-82-2022-03-22/

Been on airplanes well over 10 times with a N95. You really cant get more cramped with a large number of people who have been to or come from many different places. And sitting on these things for over an hour at least enclosed . Anecdotal info: I have still had zero colds and clear of Covid symptoms. I have not been sick since this thing started. I have NEVER gone this long without a little head Cold.
Masks most likely work very well along with the ventilation systems for me.

I would post my zipcode but I dont want Darrin at my door trying to sell Ivermectin.

[DarrinS]

Been on airplanes well over 10 times with a N95. You really cant get more cramped with a large number of people who have been to or come from many different places. And sitting on these things for over an hour at least enclosed . Anecdotal info: I have still had zero colds and clear of Covid symptoms. I have not been sick since this thing started. I have NEVER gone this long without a little head Cold.
Masks most likely work very well along with the ventilation systems for me.

I would post my zipcode but I dont want Darrin at my door trying to sell Ivermectin.


Rent free

[pgardn]

Rent free

Congrats.

You have gained a whole lot of Snakeoil notoriety.
There are a few famous clowns that entertain on this platform.
I will pay the rent if you want.
Step on stage, and tell us which thread you will be in and what the dates and times are.
Could be lucrative... practice for a massive twitter following.

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Been on airplanes well over 10 times with a N95. You really cant get more cramped with a large number of people who have been to or come from many different places. And sitting on these things for over an hour at least enclosed . Anecdotal info: I have still had zero colds and clear of Covid symptoms. I have not been sick since this thing started. I have NEVER gone this long without a little head Cold.
Masks most likely work very well along with the ventilation systems for me.

I would post my zipcode but I dont want Darrin at my door trying to sell Ivermectin.

...Or, 12 inchers. You'd love those.

[Thread]

Deaths:



999,792



10AM



tee, hee.

[pgardn]

...Or, 12 inchers. You'd love those.

Darrin sells rulers…
Ok

Putin God
God not God

[ChumpDumper]

Soap free

[Winehole23]

Cornell was a bellwether for the OG Omicron -- maybe because they bother to track it and encourage reporting.

Head in sand COVID fatigue and home testing will tend to depress reported cases in the current wave. Too bad the CDC is relying on lagging indicators like hospitalization to set risk levels, by the time they sound the alarm it'll be too late to do much about it.


Cornell University is moving from alert level green to alert level yellow after a COVID-19 cases began "increasing beyond our predictions, indicating a substantial prevalence of the virus on campus," according to a university statement.

Over the past week, 379 positive cases have been reported among undergraduate, graduate, staff and faculty populations.https://www.ithaca.com/news/coronavirus/cornell-moves-to-alert-level-yellow-after-379-covid-cases-in-past-week/article_5831ddf4-ab05-11ec-ba18-af589d16d2f1.html

[Thread]

Cornell was a bellwether for the OG Omicron -- maybe because they bother to track it and encourage reporting.

Head in sand COVID fatigue and home testing will tend to depress reported cases in the current wave. Too bad the CDC is relying on lagging indicators like hospitalization to set risk levels, by the time they sound the alarm it'll be too late to do much about it.

https://www.ithaca.com/news/coronavirus/cornell-moves-to-alert-level-yellow-after-379-covid-cases-in-past-week/article_5831ddf4-ab05-11ec-ba18-af589d16d2f1.html

"I do know one thing--that although I was blind, now I can see."

[Winehole23]

Congressional funding for tracking, treatment and testing is about to dry up, so in essence we're back to the Trumpian policy to keeping the numbers down by discouraging discovery and downplaying the prevalence of disease -- which is currently at a level considered alarming as recently as last summer.

[Thread]

Congressional funding for tracking, treatment and testing is about to dry up, so in essence we're back to the Trumpian policy to keeping the numbers down by discouraging discovery and downplaying the prevalence of disease -- which is currently at a level considered alarming as recently as last summer.

..."I do know one thing--that although I was blind, now I can see."...about 1/2 the time.

[Winehole23]

According to Gov. Abbott, COVID is still an emergency in Texas, or maybe he just wants to hang onto his emergency powers as long as possible, even when COVID is "over" and mitigation has ceased almost entirely.

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[Winehole23]

Best way to limit the damage is to keep the caseload down.

Failure to mitigate infection will impose heavy social and economic costs and already has.

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[Thread]

Best way to limit the damage is to keep the caseload down.

Failure to mitigate infection will impose heavy social and economic costs and already has.

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"I do not know if he is a sinner or not," the man replied. "One thing I do know: I was blind, and now I see."

[Winehole23]

Correlation with diabetes risk firms up

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Correlation with multiorgan impairment persisting at least a year, even in mild and asymptomatic cases.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.03.18.22272607v1


Correlation with myocarditis and heart damage firming up

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/getting-covid-19-is-much-riskier-for-your-heart-than-vaccinationPrevious infection with COVID would now seem to be a compounding underlying condition. T-cell depletion and immune derangement seem to be making the risk of reinfection worse than initial infections, contrary to the common sense of open COVID/mass morbidity enthusiasts. And that's leaving aside the strokes, heart disease and kidney disease that COVID seems to be causing.

[Thread]

Previous infection with COVID would now seem to be a compounding underlying condition. T-cell depletion and immune derangement seem to be making the risk of reinfection worse than initial infections, contrary to the common sense of open COVID/mass morbidity enthusiasts. And that's leaving aside the strokes, heart disease and kidney disease that COVID seems to be causing.

"I do not know if he is a sinner or not," the man replied. "One thing I do know: I was blind, and now I see."

[pgardn]

Congressional funding for tracking, treatment and testing is about to dry up, so in essence we're back to the Trumpian policy to keeping the numbers down by discouraging discovery and downplaying the prevalence of disease -- which is currently at a level considered alarming as recently as last summer.

And since the beginning the instructions for different localities depending on their status is confusion. Politicians wear down as people get tired of all this stuff, thats another thing I have learned.

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And since the beginning the instructions for different localities depending on their status is confusion. Politicians wear down as people get tired of all this stuff, thats another thing I have learned.

...& I've learned that you & him, peeg & Winester are climbin' that tree with firm intentions of sittin' in it together.