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DarrinS
05-16-2020, 09:38 PM
That’s how I am too. I can’t see how people can wear them all the time. I barely can breathe in them for the short time I’m usually in the supermarket. I usually have to open it up a few times. And me wearing glasses doesn’t help things any.

Same here. I can't imagine working a long shift with a mask.

DarrinS
05-16-2020, 09:43 PM
People need to get to the "acceptance" stage and deal with the fact that this pathogen is part of our world now (thanks China). People with darker skin should seriously consider vitamin D supplements.

ducks
05-16-2020, 09:54 PM
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/98210874_2760180884093502_8527826959718154240_n.jp g?_nc_cat=110&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_oc=AQnPoYO6A3hxPrrcmRSY-MfuVd_KCQU4onnnPTkWtq4EmYS6gEZZihsQfeHjTxVDXYo&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-1.xx&_nc_tp=14&oh=6dbd90f9992e2578e0d6b3b17ebafdc2&oe=5EE45040

Blake
05-16-2020, 09:55 PM
People need to get to the "acceptance" stage and deal with the fact that this pathogen is part of our world now (thanks China). People with darker skin should seriously consider vitamin D supplements.

What does "acceptance" mean to you as far as business goes? Open them all back up?

ducks
05-16-2020, 09:56 PM
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/98210874_2760180884093502_8527826959718154240_n.jp g?_nc_cat=110&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_oc=AQnPoYO6A3hxPrrcmRSY-MfuVd_KCQU4onnnPTkWtq4EmYS6gEZZihsQfeHjTxVDXYo&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-1.xx&_nc_tp=14&oh=6dbd90f9992e2578e0d6b3b17ebafdc2&oe=5EE45040
Answer the question !

spurraider21
05-16-2020, 09:57 PM
What does "acceptance" mean to you as far as business goes? Open them all back up?
acceptance means "if he dies, he dies"

and hes making sure you remember that its all china and we couldnt have done anything different

DarrinS
05-16-2020, 09:59 PM
What does "acceptance" mean to you as far as business goes? Open them all back up?

We already flattened the curve, but we've also flattened our economy. This can't continue

DarrinS
05-16-2020, 10:02 PM
acceptance means "if he dies, he dies"

and hes making sure you remember that its all china and we couldnt have done anything different

Wrong, asshole.

Hope you are doing well, btw.

There are people less fortunate than us that are going broke and trying to survive.

spurraider21
05-16-2020, 10:07 PM
Wrong, asshole.

Hope you are doing well, btw.

There are people less fortunate than us that are going broke and trying to survive.
im aware. i think decisions to open up should be made prudently, but on a state/local basis as i've been saying. for areas where health officials do not feel it is prudent to open up, i do think the government should be providing UBI until further notice. the $1,200 checks should have just been the first in a series, not a "take this and go away" approach

clambake
05-16-2020, 10:07 PM
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/98210874_2760180884093502_8527826959718154240_n.jp g?_nc_cat=110&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_oc=AQnPoYO6A3hxPrrcmRSY-MfuVd_KCQU4onnnPTkWtq4EmYS6gEZZihsQfeHjTxVDXYo&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-1.xx&_nc_tp=14&oh=6dbd90f9992e2578e0d6b3b17ebafdc2&oe=5EE45040
Answer the question !
Fine

You’re mental

Blake
05-16-2020, 10:10 PM
We already flattened the curve, but we've also flattened our economy. This can't continue

So youre wanting all business back open at 100%?

DarrinS
05-16-2020, 10:11 PM
im aware. i think decisions to open up should be made prudently, but on a state/local basis as i've been saying. for areas where health officials do not feel it is prudent to open up, i do think the government should be providing UBI until further notice. the $1,200 checks should have just been the first in a series, not a "take this and go away" approach

So, we agree. I'm not saying "fuck the at-risk group". I'm saying it won't "go away".

DarrinS
05-16-2020, 10:12 PM
So youre wanting all business back open at 100%?

Where appropriate

spurraider21
05-16-2020, 10:13 PM
So, we agree. I'm not saying "fuck the at-risk group". I'm saying it won't "go away".
nobody said its going to go away. doesnt mean we should just say "we tried" and open everything back and and see if we can get back to business as usual

clambake
05-16-2020, 10:13 PM
Anti-Christ Darrin is a slave to his boss. His 401k boss.

He’s beholden

DarrinS
05-16-2020, 10:14 PM
61 of 62 deaths from covid in S.A. had an underlying health condition.

DarrinS
05-16-2020, 10:19 PM
nobody said its going to go away. doesnt mean we should just say "we tried" and open everything back and and see if we can get back to business as usual


It's time to open back up. I'm at low tisk, as I've been working at home for years. There's no reason to sacrifice healthy people's livelihoods to protect such a small segment of our society. Harsh truth.

DarrinS
05-16-2020, 10:20 PM
Anti-Christ Darrin is a slave to his boss. His 401k boss.

He’s beholden

^"pay attention to me"

Meh

clambake
05-16-2020, 10:21 PM
It's time to open back up. I'm at low tisk, as I've been working at home for years. There's no reason to sacrifice healthy people's livelihoods to protect such a small segment of our society. Harsh truth.

You are a small segment


That’s beholden

DarrinS
05-16-2020, 10:22 PM
lol what a piece of shit

^ What a retarded faggot.

clambake
05-16-2020, 10:23 PM
^ What a retarded faggot.

When you say faggot, do you mean gay?

DarrinS
05-16-2020, 10:33 PM
When you say faggot, do you mean gay?

No, I mean faggot.

clambake
05-16-2020, 10:37 PM
No, I mean faggot.

What does faggot mean to you?

ChumpDumper
05-16-2020, 10:40 PM
If its a lie, why did I quote you saying this in the other thread. Looks like you spoke too soon again, emotionally, without all the evidence. Typical.

You're so angry because in all of my acting I have proven you wrong time and time again. See you in the other threadNope. You're not even talking about the same thing.

Let's just cut to the chase because all you do here is act like you know more than anyone on or off the message board.

What is your death count and how did you compile it?

According to you, how is the virus spread?

ChumpDumper
05-16-2020, 10:41 PM
It's time to open back up. I'm at low tisk, as I've been working at home for years. There's no reason to sacrifice healthy people's livelihoods to protect such a small segment of our society. Harsh truth.Yeah, fuck the elderly and diabetic as long as you're safe.

DarrinS
05-16-2020, 10:48 PM
Yeah, fuck the elderly and diabetic as long as you're safe.

Yeah, fuck the non-elderly healthy people.

That's MOST people.

Reck
05-16-2020, 10:51 PM
It's time to open back up. I'm at low tisk, as I've been working at home for years. There's no reason to sacrifice healthy people's livelihoods to protect such a small segment of our society. Harsh truth.

Not really a harsh truth. You’re being highly ignorant. You’re a low risk because you’re a shut in.

Something tells me if you actually depended on having to work out of the home you’d be singing a different tune.

TimDunkem
05-16-2020, 10:52 PM
Struggling economically for a few years is just as bad as death

what a retarded faggot :lmao

You can tell he's never struggled very much. Reck is right. He's a privileged shut in who doesn't have shit to worry about.

clambake
05-16-2020, 10:57 PM
Struggling economically for a few years is just as bad as death

what a retarded faggot :lmao

He called you faggot

Does faggot mean gay to you?

ChumpDumper
05-16-2020, 10:59 PM
Yeah, fuck the non-elderly healthy people.

That's MOST people.Give the count of how many people you want to fuck over with no other plan, Darrin.

It's your proposal. Let's see your numbers.

DarrinS
05-16-2020, 11:01 PM
Struggling economically for a few years is just as bad as death

what a retarded faggot :lmao


Not really a harsh truth. You’re being highly ignorant. You’re a low risk because you’re a shut in.

Something tells me if you actually depended on having to work out of the home you’d be singing a different tune.


You can tell he's never struggled very much. Reck is right. He's a privileged shut in who doesn't have shit to worry about.


He called you faggot

Does faggot mean gay to you?



You guys are adorable. I'm unaffected by shutdowns.

Younger generations are fucked.

To me, that's not a good thing.

DarrinS
05-16-2020, 11:07 PM
Gen Z particularly fucked. To save a small percentage of older folks with underlying health issues.

baseline bum
05-16-2020, 11:08 PM
Younger generations are fucked.

To me, that's not a good thing.

It was when Trump passed his taxcut for trillions of dollars that went straight to stock buybacks in 2017 tho, amirite?

ChumpDumper
05-16-2020, 11:09 PM
It was when Trump passed his taxcut for trillions of dollars that went straight to stock buybacks in 2017 tho, amirite?It was good for Darrin so fuck everyone else.

DarrinS
05-16-2020, 11:13 PM
It was good for Darrin so fuck everyone else.

I'm the one arguing for younger people. Zero people under 30 have died in SA.

baseline bum
05-16-2020, 11:15 PM
It was good for Darrin so fuck everyone else.

I love the right's crocodile tears for teh kidz when they do everything they can to ridcule them for complaining about the fucked up nation left to them by the boomers. Almost as heartfelt as the tears for poor Hillary during Ken Starr's impeachment trial.

clambake
05-16-2020, 11:16 PM
You guys are adorable. I'm unaffected by shutdowns.

Younger generations are fucked.

To me, that's not a good thing.
Loser can’t answer

ChumpDumper
05-16-2020, 11:16 PM
I'm the one arguing for younger people. Zero people under 30 have died in SA.Let's see your numbers, Darrin. You're the one who wants to fuck them.

clambake
05-16-2020, 11:18 PM
Darrin needs those that he’s beholden to

He’s a slave to them

DarrinS
05-16-2020, 11:20 PM
Let's see your numbers, Darrin. You're the one who wants to fuck them.

Zero is a number. Already gave it.

ChumpDumper
05-16-2020, 11:23 PM
Zero is a number. Already gave it.What is your plan for the nonzero number of elderly and those with preexisting conditions?

clambake
05-16-2020, 11:27 PM
What does faggot mean to you, darrin?

DarrinS
05-16-2020, 11:28 PM
What is your plan for the nonzero number of elderly and those with preexisting conditions?


They should use common sense and protect themselves. For example, you don't need a mask at a drive thru.

I have a mom in her 70's. She understands her risks and is careful.

ChumpDumper
05-16-2020, 11:29 PM
They should use common sense and protect themselves. How?

DarrinS
05-16-2020, 11:30 PM
What does faggot mean to you, darrin?

Someone like you. No take, just bitching.

DarrinS
05-16-2020, 11:32 PM
How?

Curb pick up at grocery. Mask. Proper supplements.

ChumpDumper
05-16-2020, 11:34 PM
Curb pick up at grocery. Mask. Proper supplements.And work?

baseline bum
05-16-2020, 11:35 PM
Curb pick up at grocery. Mask. Proper supplements.

And also starve if they don't have the skills to work from home?

ChumpDumper
05-16-2020, 11:35 PM
And also starve if they don't have the skills to work from home?They just need to find another job in this booming economy.

spurraider21
05-16-2020, 11:38 PM
It's time to open back up. I'm at low tisk, as I've been working at home for years. There's no reason to sacrifice healthy people's livelihoods to protect such a small segment of our society. Harsh truth.
Culling of the herd

spurraider21
05-16-2020, 11:39 PM
He called you faggot

Does faggot mean gay to you?
Watch the South Park episodes about Harley guys being fags

no need to clutch pearls tbh

clambake
05-16-2020, 11:40 PM
Someone like you. No take, just bitching.

Answer the question

What does faggot mean to you?


I’m not counting on anyone to take care of me like you do

Do you need permission to answer my question?

spurraider21
05-16-2020, 11:41 PM
Hey guys remember that one time in human history where the world economy took a massive fall and we were all fucked for eternity? Oh wait it always recovered? Hmmmmmm
Death isn’t permanent either. These dying people will just start their new lives in heaven! Now we don’t have to feel guilty about sacrificing them for the economy

spurraider21
05-16-2020, 11:43 PM
They just need to find another job in this booming economy.
Learn to code

wasnt possible for coal miners. But old people surely can

clambake
05-16-2020, 11:45 PM
Watch the South Park episodes about Harley guys being fags

no need to clutch pearls tbh

Yeah, I don’t watch that, or have pearls

Darrin has a history here

Blake
05-17-2020, 12:52 AM
So youre wanting all business back open at 100%?


Where appropriate

Whatever that means

Blake
05-17-2020, 01:16 AM
"In mid-April, 30% more Americans died than was typical in the same period in previous years, a Wall Street Journal examination of federal death-certificate data shows..."

https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19s-exact-toll-is-murky-though-u-s-deaths-are-up-sharply-11589555652

ChumpDumper
05-17-2020, 01:19 AM
"In mid-April, 30% more Americans died than was typical in the same period in previous years, a Wall Street Journal examination of federal death-certificate data shows..."

https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19s-exact-toll-is-murky-though-u-s-deaths-are-up-sharply-11589555652
I got an anecdote that proves none of those deaths are COVID.

Blake
05-17-2020, 01:20 AM
But it's like the flu though

ChumpDumper
05-17-2020, 01:24 AM
It doesn't spread because I can't say how it spreads.

apalisoc_9
05-17-2020, 02:42 AM
I've never seen tholdern post in this section, but can't say i'm surprised with his political takes given his takes upstairs :lol

ElNono
05-17-2020, 07:13 AM
You guys are adorable. I'm unaffected by shutdowns.

Younger generations are fucked.

To me, that's not a good thing.

Why are they fucked? They have their whole life ahead of them, and if there's anything about a good economic crisis is that now you have the opportunity to rebuild.

You know who's fucked? The minority that got infected and died because Gen Z couldn't wait another month or two.

ElNono
05-17-2020, 07:14 AM
I'm the one arguing for younger people. Zero people under 30 have died in SA.

That's great. How many of those infected other at-risk people though?

ElNono
05-17-2020, 07:16 AM
I've never seen tholdern post in this section, but can't say i'm surprised with his political takes given his takes upstairs :lol

Yeah, it's really not a section problem...

RandomGuy
05-17-2020, 01:54 PM
They just need to find another job in this booming economy.

If it only takes missing one paycheck for millions of people to miss rent and bills then the economy never really was booming.

RandomGuy
05-17-2020, 02:06 PM
Yeah, fuck the non-elderly healthy people.

That's MOST people.

The problem is that this has a non-zero chance of killing people in who are not in the high-risk groups, and has a high hospitalization rate, with the ever-loomi4ng threat of overwhelmed hospitals.

Kill off enough people that are not elderly, and you have a huge drag on the economy, vastly outpacing the damage from a temporary slow down.-

Kill enough 0-40 year olds, and you lose all the money they would have earned and spent for decades. That adds up quick, even at low fatality rates.

With some indications that even survivors will have permanent damage, the way to "fuck" the economy is to re-open too fast, too soon

baseline bum
05-17-2020, 02:11 PM
If it only takes missing one paycheck for millions of people to miss rent and bills then the economy never really was booming.

What was it, half of America living paycheck to paycheck before COVID? LOL at trying to present any economy we've had since "the jobless recovery" of 2008 as healthy just because of the Dow. I'll still never forget Trump's hissyfit shutdown where all these government workers who had so-called "good middle-class jobs" were stuck going into food lines to survive. This fucking economy has been nakedly a house of cards ever since what boutons_deux appropriately called the Banksters Great Depression of 2008.

RandomGuy
05-17-2020, 02:18 PM
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/democrats-say-the-worst-of-the-coronavirus-is-yet-to-come-republicans-say-the-worst-is-over/

Democrats Say The Worst Of The Coronavirus Is Yet To Come. Republicans Say The Worst Is Over.

RandomGuy
05-17-2020, 02:20 PM
Florida and Georgia were supposed to be “inevitable”, what happened?

https://news.yahoo.com/newly-reopened-south-florida-seen-as-emerging-coronavirus-hotspot-223903143.html

Newly reopened South Florida seen as an emerging coronavirus hot spot


WASHINGTON — Federal officials responding to the coronavirus pandemic are concerned about the rapidly rising number of cases in Palm Beach County, Fla., according to an internal Trump administration document reviewed by Yahoo News.

The document, a May 15 daily interagency update on the nation’s coronavirus response circulated by the Department of Homeland Security, notes new areas of concern for coronavirus. It was provided to Yahoo News by one of its recipients under the condition that that recipient not be identified.

“As most states have begun phased re-opening, several COVID-19 hot spots continue to emerge,” the notice says. Three counties are then listed: Palm Beach; San Bernardino County, Calif.; and Marshall County, Ala.

This takes a few weeks to develop. We will not really know the ultimate effects for another couple of weeks.

Happy to be wrong about extent of disease, but the behavior of opening up leads to more infections. This is not difficult to comprehend.

Unless you are an idiot.

tholdren
05-17-2020, 02:30 PM
The problem is that this has a non-zero chance of killing people in who are not in the high-risk groups, and has a high hospitalization rate, with the ever-loomi4ng threat of overwhelmed hospitals.

Kill off enough people that are not elderly, and you have a huge drag on the economy, vastly outpacing the damage from a temporary slow down.-

Kill enough 0-40 year olds, and you lose all the money they would have earned and spent for decades. That adds up quick, even at low fatality rates.

With some indications that even survivors will have permanent damage, the way to "fuck" the economy is to re-open too fast, too soon

This is not true

RandomGuy
05-17-2020, 03:44 PM
What was it, half of America living paycheck to paycheck before COVID? LOL at trying to present any economy we've had since "the jobless recovery" of 2008 as healthy just because of the Dow. I'll still never forget Trump's hissyfit shutdown where all these government workers who had so-called "good middle-class jobs" were stuck going into food lines to survive. This fucking economy has been nakedly a house of cards ever since what boutons_deux appropriately called the Banksters Great Depression of 2008.

Not only that the whole "health insurance tied to employment" thing has been exposed as the bad idea it always was.

RandomGuy
05-17-2020, 03:46 PM
This is not true

... because...?

I can probably find the economic study. When you start calculating the NPV costs of excess fatalities, and additional health care spending in the most expensive health care system in the world it doesn't take much.

ChumpDumper
05-17-2020, 03:52 PM
1262029906512404480

Third time? Obviously all honest mistakes. Pobody's nerfect amirite?

boutons_deux
05-17-2020, 03:52 PM
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/democrats-say-the-worst-of-the-coronavirus-is-yet-to-come-republicans-say-the-worst-is-over/

Democrats Say The Worst Of The Coronavirus Is Yet To Come. Republicans Say The Worst Is Over.

... will be answered in a few weeks.

Blake
05-17-2020, 03:54 PM
1262029906512404480

Third time? Obviously all honest mistakes. Pobody's nerfect amirite?

Jeez. Are we really already at the point of lying about the numbers in order to keep businesses open?

RandomGuy
05-17-2020, 03:57 PM
... will be answered in a few weeks.

Eyup. We know how epidemics behave. This is not really up for debate, unless one is outright delusional.

tholdren
05-17-2020, 04:49 PM
Jeez. Are we really already at the point of lying about the numbers in order to keep businesses open?

Cdc does it to keep business closed. All fair in war.

tholdren
05-17-2020, 04:54 PM
That's great. How many of those infected other at-risk people though?

So that's your argument?

DarrinS
05-17-2020, 05:00 PM
1262076474565242880

Team fetal position lost Elon

ElNono
05-17-2020, 05:12 PM
So that's your argument?

That's certainly one argument.

ElNono
05-17-2020, 05:13 PM
1262076474565242880

Team fetal position lost Elon

What team is that?

ChumpDumper
05-17-2020, 05:15 PM
1262076474565242880

Team fetal position lost ElonYou ever figure out how many people you're OK with killing?

Asking for old people and people with preexisting conditions all over the country.

tholdren
05-17-2020, 05:19 PM
... because...?

I can probably find the economic study. When you start calculating the NPV costs of excess fatalities, and additional health care spending in the most expensive health care system in the world it doesn't take much.
There are economic models, start there.

tholdren
05-17-2020, 05:25 PM
You ever figure out how many people you're OK with killing?

Asking for old people and people with preexisting conditions all over the country.
So you are assuming they will automatically get it?

What is fair to you. A hypothetical number of lives saved, which you cannot produce, as a tradeoff for 33 million people who have lost their job, potentially ruining their lives a d the lives of their family,

Or

Not eliminating 33 million jobs and repercussions associated with to save x amount of lives of people who are already passed life expectancy and have preexisting conditions?


This is essentially the choice. You are claiming that people aren't valuing life and don't have a right to choose, yet you have done the same thing by saying saving x lives is a fair trade for ruining one.

ChumpDumper
05-17-2020, 05:28 PM
So you are assuming they will automatically get it? No. I'm assuming many will.

Sorry, before we go any further you have questions pending.

According to you, how is the virus spread?

Please answer to prove you can participate in a conversation.

tholdren
05-17-2020, 05:31 PM
So you are assuming they will automatically get it?

What is fair to you. A hypothetical number of lives saved, which you cannot produce, as a tradeoff for 33 million people who have lost their job, potentially ruining their lives a d the lives of their family,

Or

Not eliminating 33 million jobs and repercussions associated with to save x amount of lives of people who are already passed life expectancy and have preexisting conditions?


This is essentially the choice. You are claiming that people aren't valuing life and don't have a right to choose, yet you have done the same thing by saying saving x lives is a fair trade for ruining one.

chump you won't touch this, because then you can't blame just one person. Figures. You lack substance

ChumpDumper
05-17-2020, 05:33 PM
According to you, how is the virus spread?

Please answer to prove you can participate in a conversation.thildren you won't touch this, because you're afraid to answer a simple question. Figures. You lack knowledge and courage and substance. Why are you so afraid? Why do I intimidate you so much? I'm not going to physically hurt you. Emotionally, of course, but that's all you.

tholdren
05-17-2020, 05:54 PM
Alright chumpy. Since you are resorting to copying me for the night I will let you go. This is your emotional cue. I get it. I hope that you will accept my offer to purchase you a libation once all the people involved can figure this terrible virus out.

Your BFF,
Me

ChumpDumper
05-17-2020, 06:00 PM
Alright chumpy. Since you are resorting to copying me for the night I will let you go. This is your emotional cue. I get it. I hope that you will accept my offer to purchase you a libation once all the people involved can figure this terrible virus out.

Your BFF,
MeAlright, thildren. You give up very time I ask you the simplest question. I will let you go until you try to troll this board again with your claims of knowledge you are terrified to back up. I know you're just really insecure when it comes down to it. I hope you find the courage to actually participate in a conversation instead of just screeching like a scared little girl.

ducks
05-17-2020, 06:07 PM
The ACLU is suing Dallas County officials to release all inmates who are susceptible to contracting Coronavirus

This would include illegal alien Billy Chemirmir

Chemirmir murdered AT LEAST 22 elderly women across Dallas

Why does the left want him freed

TimDunkem
05-17-2020, 06:08 PM
The ACLU is suing Dallas County officials to release all inmates who are susceptible to contracting Coronavirus

This would include illegal alien Billy Chemirmir

Chemirmir murdered AT LEAST 22 elderly women across Dallas

Why does the left want him freed
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2020/02/17/fact-check-serial-murder-suspect-bill-chemirmir-is-not-an-unauthorized-immigrant-ice-says/

That was easy.

ducks
05-17-2020, 06:10 PM
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Returning now from a very productive weekend at Camp David with realDonaldTrump
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colleagues. The man never slows down or sleeps. It’s incredible. A lot of work on coronavirus response and other important topics to make our great nation even stronger.

boutons_deux
05-17-2020, 06:21 PM
https://ritholtz.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/polling.png

Play Boban
05-17-2020, 06:37 PM
We need to cancel 5g

DarrinS
05-17-2020, 07:09 PM
We need to cancel 5g

Why?

Chris
05-17-2020, 07:17 PM
https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1262127565419868160?s=19

100

boutons_deux
05-17-2020, 07:59 PM
HHS Secretary Alex Azar suggests

health problems in communities of color explain coronavirus death numbers

while downplaying the severity of the coronavirus (https://www.vox.com/coronavirus-covid19) fatality rate nationally,

seeming to suggest that demographics :lol — rather than policy choices :lol

— are behind confirmed US coronavirus-related deaths approaching 90,000 (https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6).

Thanks to the president’s historic response efforts here :lol HISTORIC FAILURES! :lol

.... we are in a position to be able to reopen now.” :lol

Strikingly, even among people who have been laid off or have taken a pay cut,

the percentage of people with that concern is identical — 68 percent — which indicates

concerns about the virus are serious

even among those facing direct economic consequences from the coronavirus-spurred recession.

(Among those who had not been laid off or taken a pay cut, the percentage concerned was one point higher: 69 percent.)

https://www.vox.com/covid-19-coronavirus-us-response-trump/2020/5/17/21261708/alex-azar-coronavirus-trump-economy-african-american (https://www.vox.com/covid-19-coronavirus-us-response-trump/2020/5/17/21261708/alex-azar-coronavirus-trump-economy-african-american)

Blake
05-17-2020, 08:08 PM
https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1262127565419868160?s=19

100

Chris's Hollywood minute.

boutons_deux
05-17-2020, 08:11 PM
Well-known cancer drugs may prevent SARS-CoV-2 viral replication say researchers

Interestingly, all five compounds stopped the replication of SARS-CoV-2, at clinically achievable concentrations.

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20200517/Well-known-cancer-drugs-may-prevent-SARS-CoV-2-viral-replication-say-researchers.aspx

Spurminator
05-17-2020, 08:14 PM
1262076474565242880

Team fetal position lost Elon

Red Team can have him, if there's any room left in the mental ward.

boutons_deux
05-17-2020, 08:23 PM
‘Matrix’ Co-Creator Tweets ‘F*ck Both of You’ at Elon Musk and Ivanka Trump After ‘Red Pill’ Tweets


https://www.mediaite.com/online/matrix-co-creator-tweets-fck-both-of-you-at-elon-musk-and-ivanka-trump-after-red-pill-tweets/ (https://www.mediaite.com/online/matrix-co-creator-tweets-fck-both-of-you-at-elon-musk-and-ivanka-trump-after-red-pill-tweets/)

DarrinS
05-17-2020, 09:34 PM
‘Matrix’ Co-Creator Tweets ‘F*ck Both of You’ at Elon Musk and Ivanka Trump After ‘Red Pill’ Tweets


https://www.mediaite.com/online/matrix-co-creator-tweets-fck-both-of-you-at-elon-musk-and-ivanka-trump-after-red-pill-tweets/ (https://www.mediaite.com/online/matrix-co-creator-tweets-fck-both-of-you-at-elon-musk-and-ivanka-trump-after-red-pill-tweets/)


Seems rational. :rolleyes

DMC
05-17-2020, 09:39 PM
https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1262127565419868160?s=19

100

He dithered.

ChumpDumper
05-17-2020, 09:39 PM
Seems rational. :rolleyesElon? He lost his shit awhile back.

TDMVPDPOY
05-17-2020, 09:48 PM
china has a 3month head start on everyone, yet everyone is working on a vaccine, while they are hacking foreign entities for the vaccine...why??

if china comes up with the vaccine, would anyone buy?

spurraider21
05-17-2020, 09:49 PM
https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1262127565419868160?s=19

100
"criminals vote democrat"

not entirely untrue. general flynn is a registered democrat

ElNono
05-17-2020, 09:50 PM
"criminals vote democrat"

not entirely untrue. general flynn is a registered democrat

rofl

ElNono
05-17-2020, 09:51 PM
"criminals vote democrat"

not entirely untrue. general flynn is a registered democrat

so is Michael Avenatti.

Nathan89
05-17-2020, 10:51 PM
https://twitter.com/NYCMayorsOffice/status/1262148389740916739?s=20

https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1262043262191316992?s=20

"How many people are you willing to let die?"

"If anything scaring people is a good thing because they'll be more cautious."

tholdren
05-17-2020, 10:51 PM
Ny gov fail

ducks
05-17-2020, 11:01 PM
Why do we need to cancel 5 g?

spurraider21
05-17-2020, 11:54 PM
derp, is this your bride to be? hit her up. she says her name in city of residence in the video, go find her

1262074477921198082

Reck
05-18-2020, 12:09 AM
1262076474565242880

Team fetal position lost Elon

This guy.

Billionaire crying because the state he lives in cares about not killing thousands just so people like him don’t profit from this crisis.

Something familiar here..

DMC
05-18-2020, 12:10 AM
This guy.

Billionaire crying because the state he lives in cares about not killing thousands just so people like him don’t profit from this crisis.

Something familiar here..

Yeah, California is well known for how much they care about their people.

Spurtacular
05-18-2020, 12:13 AM
derp, is this your bride to be? hit her up. she says her name in city of residence in the video, go find her

1262074477921198082

Staged events. They couldn't help but get a dancing cleaner. They just couldn't help but over produce.

'My name is Ben and rather than take my unemployment check for more, I'm happy to wear this mask all day.'

They even made sure they were rocking out to their pedophile hero.

:lol

ChumpDumper
05-18-2020, 12:14 AM
Staged events, quite possibly.:lol moar conspiracies

Spurtacular
05-18-2020, 12:17 AM
David Dook attention whoring. Par.

ChumpDumper
05-18-2020, 12:25 AM
David Dook attention whoring. Par.I am mocking you because once again you declared a conspiracy.

Once again I will ask you to explain your conspiracy theory.

Once again you will fold.

So, what is your conspiracy theory here?

tholdren
05-18-2020, 12:57 AM
I am mocking you because once again you declared a conspiracy.

Once again I will ask you to explain your conspiracy theory.

Once again you will fold.

So, what is your conspiracy theory here?

ny gov blaming fed gov. Lol

ChumpDumper
05-18-2020, 12:58 AM
ny gov blaming fed gov. LolAccording to you, how is the virus spread?

baseline bum
05-18-2020, 01:04 AM
derp, is this your bride to be? hit her up. she says her name in city of residence in the video, go find her

1262074477921198082

LOL grown woman thinks the world revolves around her.

DMC
05-18-2020, 01:07 AM
I have private stuff I don't want you to see...

Ok how the fuck are you planning on paying for it without anyone seeing it?

Blake
05-18-2020, 02:11 AM
"(CNN)A person who later learned they were positive for Covid-19 attended a California religious service on Mother's Day, exposing 180 other people to the novel coronavirus, according to local health officials.

The individual got a positive diagnosis for Covid-19 the day after the service and is now in isolation at home, Butte County Public Health said in a statement Friday.

People who attended the service have been notified about their exposure and received instructions from health officials to self-quarantine, the statement said. Officials are working to get testing for everyone who was in attendance..."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/17/us/covid-19-mothers-day-church-exposure/index.html

:cry muh Jesus will save us

boutons_deux
05-18-2020, 07:36 AM
shitbag Azar suggesting if non-whites deaths are excluded, the pandemic (for white people) isn't that bad,

and of course it's the non-white demographics at fault, not govt policies.

boutons_deux
05-18-2020, 08:49 AM
Trump’s New COVID-19 Czar Holds $10 Million In Vaccine Company Stock Options

Elizabeth Warren slammed the “huge conflict of interest,” and demanded Moncef Slaoui “divest immediately.”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/moncef-slaoui-covid-19-vaccine-trump-czar_n_5ec05ee0c5b601e938721768?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg 00000063&utm_campaign=hp_fb_pages&utm_source=main_fb&utm_medium=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3prUGyO9JEz4sphxP_yEEdCI9Xb9qhqGKVquJfb nLTfL9WSo9FZU2o5CA (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/moncef-slaoui-covid-19-vaccine-trump-czar_n_5ec05ee0c5b601e938721768?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg 00000063&utm_campaign=hp_fb_pages&utm_source=main_fb&utm_medium=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3prUGyO9JEz4sphxP_yEEdCI9Xb9qhqGKVquJfb nLTfL9WSo9FZU2o5CA)

Play Boban
05-18-2020, 09:11 AM
Why?
Maybe so millions of people quit dying? Or do you just not care?

leemajors
05-18-2020, 09:55 AM
You are a small segment


That’s beholden

He's just parroting what he hears on JRE.

tholdren
05-18-2020, 10:03 AM
Shit on by the inventor of that term :lmao
https://twitter.com/lilly_wachowski/status/1262104754496339968?s=20

Pretending lilly isn't bias?

boutons_deux
05-18-2020, 10:17 AM
Moderna says first-stage study of coronavirus vaccine produced antibodies in subjects

The Cambridge biotech reported that the experimental treatment showed potential in eight volunteers.

experimental vaccine the Cambridge biotech helped

develop for COVID-19 produced antibodies in the blood of eight healthy volunteers

comparable to those seen in people who recovered from the disease.

The eight subjects in the Moderna trial had received two doses of the vaccine at the lowest and middle doses tested — 25 and 100 micrograms — and

developed neutralizing antibodies to the virus at levels similar to people who recovered, Moderna said in a statement.

(https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/05/18/nation/moderna-says-first-stage-study-coronavirus-vaccine-shows-its-potential/?s_campaign=breakingnews:newsletter)https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/05/18/nation/moderna-says-first-stage-study-coronavirus-vaccine-shows-its-potential/?s_campaign=breakingnews:newsletter

Enough anti-bodies to provide immunity?

side effects?

looking good

Nathan89
05-18-2020, 10:40 AM
https://twitter.com/thejimjams/status/1262213961258168326?s=20

"How many people are you willing to let die?"

RandomGuy
05-18-2020, 10:43 AM
There are economic models, start there.

I guess. NPV = ?

boutons_deux
05-18-2020, 10:48 AM
“People Will Die. People Do Die.”

Wall Street Has Had Enough of the Lockdown

Soaring unemployment and related damage—insolvency, social unrest, suicide—make stay-at-home orders untenable, say bankers and traders. But to save the economy, one asks, “how many lives are we willing to risk?”

I convened an impromptu circle of Wall Streeters I know well to get their views. The consensus among them is: We can’t continue any longer in lockdown mode.

“Saving lives versus saving jobs is the wrong debate,” says one senior Wall Street banker.

“Isn’t there a middle ground?…

How many lives are you willing to spend to bring the economy back to maintain people’s standard of living?

How many lives are we willing to risk?

How do you put a price on a life? :lol that's been done by actuaries

(Godwin alert! :lol )

Many lives were lost preserving American Democracy in the fight against Nazi Germany.

There was no moral high ground then. :lol what?

And now they are remembered as the Greatest Generation.”

He wonders,

“How do you compromise between the pragmatic and the moral. There are shades of gray.”

(Some hedge fund managers, according to my colleague Gabriel Sherman,

aren’t waiting for the reopening of New York City, or of the Connecticut coastline;

they are picking up stakes and moving to one of Texas, Colorado, or Florida.)


https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/05/wall-street-has-had-enough-of-the-lockdown?utm_source=nl&utm_brand=biz&utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_mailing=thematic_business_051820&utm_medium=email&bxid=5bd6795524c17c1048022fcc&cndid=43758549&utm_content=Final&utm_term=Thematic_Business (https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/05/wall-street-has-had-enough-of-the-lockdown?utm_source=nl&utm_brand=biz&utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_mailing=thematic_business_051820&utm_medium=email&bxid=5bd6795524c17c1048022fcc&cndid=43758549&utm_content=Final&utm_term=Thematic_Business)

How many Wall Street shitbags are willing to DIE with C19?

or is it only Other People's Lives they want to lose?

clambake
05-18-2020, 10:52 AM
Ny gov fail

Trump failed ny

He’s responsible for 80k deaths and counting

That’s it and that’s all

tholdren
05-18-2020, 10:55 AM
I guess. NPV = ?

Vsl vpf.... but I think the real question is, does ruining one life due to shutdown equal potentially prolonging a life

No one can prove the shutdown has prolonged anyone's life, it has ruined millions. The government did in the shutdown to many, what people scared of opening will do to them.

Lose lose situation. Not one persons fault

tholdren
05-18-2020, 10:56 AM
Trump failed ny

He’s responsible for 80k deaths and counting

That’s it and that’s all

But did trunp fail Montana?

clambake
05-18-2020, 11:02 AM
But did trunp fail Montana?

Certainly

tholdren
05-18-2020, 11:04 AM
Certainly

Did Spain fail?

clambake
05-18-2020, 11:08 AM
Leadership at the top failed all

Especially at the super duper tippy top here. He knew in November.

That’s it and that’s all

ChumpDumper
05-18-2020, 11:25 AM
thildren still holding Trump blameless for his failure?:lol

clambake
05-18-2020, 11:27 AM
It’s cult speak, his blanky

DarrinS
05-18-2020, 12:30 PM
Leadership at the top failed all

Especially at the super duper tippy top here. He knew in November.

That’s it and that’s all


You keep saying this as if it means something. When did China publish the genome?

clambake
05-18-2020, 12:32 PM
You keep saying this as if it means something. When did China publish the genome?

You can ask China

Trump knew way back in November, then he met expectations

DarrinS
05-18-2020, 12:38 PM
You can ask China

Trump knew way back in November, then he met expectations


What did he know in November?

Genome sequence published Jan 12.

clambake
05-18-2020, 12:41 PM
What did he know in November?

Genome sequence published Jan 12.

That’s right

Way way back in November

hater
05-18-2020, 12:46 PM
any good updates nigas?

i stopped paying attention

are we beating the virus? we

DarrinS
05-18-2020, 12:47 PM
That’s right

Way way back in November

Knew what, exactly?

hater
05-18-2020, 12:48 PM
can I book my summer beach vacation?

clambake
05-18-2020, 12:48 PM
Knew what, exactly?

Knew it was happening

Way back in November

tholdren
05-18-2020, 01:06 PM
any good updates nigas?

i stopped paying attention

are we beating the virus? we

No. ChumpDumper told everyone that there is a 100 percent transmissibility rate. And just like the spanish flu the whole population is in grave danger until a vax. Then only 90 percent of the world will be in danger. And you need to be tested every hour.

ChumpDumper
05-18-2020, 01:11 PM
No. ChumpDumper told everyone that there is a 100 percent transmissibility rate.You are lying about what I said. Just another emotional outburst from you. Wholly expected.

According to you, how is the virus transmitted?

tholdren
05-18-2020, 01:12 PM
You are lying about what I said. Just another emotional outburst from you. Wholly expected.

According to you, how is the virus transmitted?

So you didn't say that, but you said people should be tested hourly?

ChumpDumper
05-18-2020, 01:13 PM
So you didn't say that, but you said people should be tested hourly?I also didn't say that. You just lie and lie and lie. Sad.

According to you, how is the virus transmitted?

Nathan89
05-18-2020, 01:41 PM
https://twitter.com/JayCostTWS/status/1262430544412971009?s=20

"How many people are you willing to let die?"

ChumpDumper
05-18-2020, 01:47 PM
https://twitter.com/JayCostTWS/status/1262430544412971009?s=20

"How many people are you willing to let die?"They can still be vaccinated. Sorry, your little ploy failed.

spurraider21
05-18-2020, 01:50 PM
https://twitter.com/JayCostTWS/status/1262430544412971009?s=20

"How many people are you willing to let die?"
nobody told these people to not go forward with routine vaccinations. doctors offices are "essential." its true that some doctors are trying to set up virtual appointments when possible, but obviously that wouldnt apply to vaccinations

Spurs Homer
05-18-2020, 01:56 PM
What did he know in November?

Genome sequence published Jan 12.

US intel warned trump in november - us intel can intercept chinese comms and knew china was up to no good -

but trump needed his "tariff" deal - because he was ONLY thinking of his re-election - and he let 90000 americans die while praising china and thinking his "deal" was more important than american lives -


https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/intelligence/491712-us-intelligence-warned-in-november-that-virus-spreading

spurraider21
05-18-2020, 02:02 PM
.

Reck
05-18-2020, 02:10 PM
Poor Darrin can’t hide behind the “we were told about the Virus too late”

But even then Trump still had the entire month of February to do something. He didn’t.

DarrinS
05-18-2020, 02:10 PM
US intel warned trump in november - us intel can intercept chinese comms and knew china was up to no good -

but trump needed his "tariff" deal - because he was ONLY thinking of his re-election - and he let 90000 americans die while praising china and thinking his "deal" was more important than american lives -


https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/intelligence/491712-us-intelligence-warned-in-november-that-virus-spreading


From your article

"The coronavirus first appeared in the President’s Daily Brief of intelligence matters in early January, according to ABC News."

Nathan89
05-18-2020, 02:18 PM
nobody told these people to not go forward with routine vaccinations. doctors offices are "essential." its true that some doctors are trying to set up virtual appointments when possible, but obviously that wouldnt apply to vaccinations

It's a side effect of fear mongering and the lockdown. What people told them isn't relevant. I was told fear mongering could actually be a good thing. Idiots were pushing lockdown till some vaccine that may not exist in the future. If anyone suggested relaxing the lock down you'd get bullshit questions like the one from my previous post. If you start opening up leftist propaganda will paint you ass a mass murderer. If that's the environment then this is what will happen. But yes, I'm not aware of anyone that said not to get vaccines.

ChumpDumper
05-18-2020, 02:20 PM
It's a side effect of fear mongering and the lockdown. What people told them isn't relevant. I was told fear mongering could actually be a good thing. Idiots were pushing lockdown till some vaccine that may not exist in the future. If anyone suggested relaxing the lock down you'd get bullshit questions like the one from my previous post. If you start opening up leftist propaganda will paint you ass a mass murderer. If that's the environment then this is what will happen. But yes, I'm not aware of anyone that said not to get vaccines.:lol long screeching rant followed by admission of your entirely false premise.

boutons_deux
05-18-2020, 02:22 PM
You can ask China

Trump knew way back in November, then he met expectations

Trash could have said in early Jan at very latest,

when he heard from US Military, NSA/PDB, and Americans at WHO/Geneva about the huge political, health, and economic risks of a pandemic in USA

"Oh shit, if this fucking stuff really hits USA hard, it will hurt the economy and my re-election (I don't give shit about American lives)

Everybody (his staff and various Exec sychophats)

We gotta keep this shit quiet

so secretly, find out what Federal and states stocks are of PPE and other medical equipment to treat a virus, tests, etc

and get everything up to level in preparation for a pandemic

don't fucking tell nobody, don't want to spook the folks and above no spook Wall St

I'm gonna beat this pandemic and run as a victorious War President on a booming economy"

... but, he didn't

and his Trash-made negligent manslaughter bodies keep piling up by the 1000s and unemployment heading toward 25%

Nathan89
05-18-2020, 02:25 PM
:lol long screeching rant followed by admission of your entirely false premise.

That was never a premise for my post. As you can see from the second sentence.

Spurs Homer
05-18-2020, 02:28 PM
From your article

"The coronavirus first appeared in the President’s Daily Brief of intelligence matters in early January, according to ABC News."

If that ^ were true - it would STILL be horrible because he spent january and february and half of March - downplaying it and calling it a hoax, etc...

But it is NOT TRUE!

Trump is the Commander in Chief (can't fucking believe I actually typed that )

Trump is the illegitimately elected fraudulent - Commander in Chief -

US Intel reports to him and if they have IMPORTANT intel that would affect American lives (or any lives for that matter)


Trump would be the FIRST to know. He was. In November.

There are zero career professionals who would discover this in November and keep it from Trump - ZERO -
they are proud hard working patriots and they would immediately report it to their chain of command and every patriot up the chain would be bound to make sure it reached Trumps eyes/ears.

ChumpDumper
05-18-2020, 02:30 PM
That was never a premise for my post. As you can see from the second sentence.:lmao of course there was a premise.

hater
05-18-2020, 02:32 PM
so we are not beating the virus yet?


can I book my beach vacation for July 4th?

Spurs Homer
05-18-2020, 02:43 PM
so we are not beating the virus yet?


can I book my beach vacation for July 4th?


Yes.

No masks either - don't be a pussy!

Chris
05-18-2020, 02:46 PM
Shit on by the inventor of that term :lmao
https://twitter.com/lilly_wachowski/status/1262104754496339968?s=20

so edgy mono got a chubby :lol

TheGreatYacht
05-18-2020, 02:54 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/Sherryconley11/status/1261482644220440576

To all the sheeple that defend Democrats or Republicans...let that sink in.

ChumpDumper
05-18-2020, 02:56 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/Sherryconley11/status/1261482644220440576

To all the sheeple that defend Democrats or Republicans...let that sink in.Let what sink in?

hater
05-18-2020, 03:01 PM
Yes.

No masks either - don't be a pussy!

great :tu

spurraider21
05-18-2020, 03:04 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/Sherryconley11/status/1261482644220440576

To all the sheeple that defend Democrats or Republicans...let that sink in.
https://i.imgur.com/3xo2QBA.jpg

boutons_deux
05-18-2020, 05:19 PM
2 Washington cases of 'COVID-19-like illness' in December raise questions about when disease arrived in US

Two residents of Snohomish County, Washington, who fell

ill with COVID-19-like symptoms in December have now tested positive for antibodies against the new coronavirus.

https://www.livescience.com/covid-19-like-illness-december-washington.html (https://www.livescience.com/covid-19-like-illness-december-washington.html)

boutons_deux
05-18-2020, 08:02 PM
Facebook Survey Shows 31% of Small Businesses Stopped Operating

One-third of U.S. small businesses have stopped operating,

while another 11% expect to fail in the next three months if Covid-19 conditions persist

“The numbers are devastating,”

Most of the closed businesses don’t know how they will find the money to reopen, and

don’t expect to rehire employees that they had to cut.

“That’s because they think they can’t -- it’s not that they don’t want to,”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-18/facebook-survey-shows-31-of-small-businesses-stopped-operating (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-18/facebook-survey-shows-31-of-small-businesses-stopped-operating)

Thanks, Trash. Your sicko, psychopathic self BROKE America

DarrinS
05-18-2020, 09:59 PM
UWA finally updated their models

https://covid19.healthdata.org

ChumpDumper
05-18-2020, 10:02 PM
UWA finally updated their models

https://covid19.healthdata.orgWhen was their last update?

You seem hypercritical of their models. What other models do you prefer?

DarrinS
05-18-2020, 10:20 PM
When was their last update?

You seem hypercritical of their models. What other models do you prefer?

Previous update was May 12. I'm not hypercritical of their models.

ChumpDumper
05-18-2020, 10:29 PM
Previous update was May 12.Oh. Six days.
I'm not hypercritical of their models.What other models do you prefer?

Chris
05-19-2020, 03:21 AM
https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1262563628227743744?s=19

Chris
05-19-2020, 03:35 AM
https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/status/1262257093031202816?s=19

look at them numbers :lol

apalisoc_9
05-19-2020, 04:03 AM
Red states mooching of blue state business brilliance and innovation.

boutons_deux
05-19-2020, 06:24 AM
Why vaccines are so slow





Early news about medical treatments — like yesterday’s announcement that a coronavirus vaccine has shown positive results in eight people — can feel both exciting and frustrating.





The frustrating part is the timing. Even if all continues to go well with the research into this vaccine, it won’t be available until late this year or early next year. Between now and then, the vaccine will have to endure two more research trials, one involving hundreds of people and the other involving thousands.





Given the virus’s terrible toll, that long process can seem strangely lacking in urgency. But scientists insist that it isn’t. Here are the key reasons they say that there are no easy or fast routes to a vaccine:





Early results don’t always stand. In 2015, the French drug company Sanofi began selling the first vaccine for dengue. The drug had made it through multiple research trials — although some researchers believed Sanofi had ignored worrisome signs. Sure enough, as children in the Philippines began using it, some contracted an even worse form (https://nl.nytimes.com/f/newsletter/44D1LJ6eYAa7Wp2_aeEieA~~/AAAAAQA~/RgRgpj4nP0TkaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubnl0aW1lcy5jb20vMjAxNy 8xMi8xNy9oZWFsdGgvc2Fub2ZpLWRlbmd1ZS12YWNjaW5lLXBo aWxpcHBpbmVzLmh0bWw_Y2FtcGFpZ25faWQ9OSZlbWM9ZWRpdF 9ubl8yMDIwMDUxOSZpbnN0YW5jZV9pZD0xODYwMSZubD10aGUt bW9ybmluZyZyZWdpX2lkPTgwODIxNzk3JnNlZ21lbnRfaWQ9Mj g0MDkmdGU9MSZ1c2VyX2lkPTk5MmQ2MDgyMTRiNTA1MDAzYWEw NGJmMTBhNTk1MDMxVwNueXRCCgApJ7nDXqFb97BSE2Rhcm5vY2 5lbEBnbWFpbC5jb21YBAAAAAA~) of dengue. Today, use of the vaccine is highly restricted.





In recent testimony, Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation’s top infectious-disease expert, noted that a coronavirus vaccine could suffer from the same problem.





The larger point is that drugs that look good in small, initial studies often look less good when they’re tested in more people.





Side effects matter. A vaccine doesn’t merely need to work, as Katie Thomas, a Times reporter covering pharmaceuticals, explained to me. It needs not to have side effects that cause more damage than the virus itself.





This coronavirus seems to kill only a small percentage of people who get it. The side effects have the potential to do more damage, because any coronavirus vaccine will be given to billions of people, including many with underlying health problems.





Politics matter, too. Vaccines are the subject of frequent conspiracy theories and falsehoods (https://nl.nytimes.com/f/newsletter/gsCjxXcwX9vwOaDEPFODNQ~~/AAAAAQA~/RgRgpj4nP0TpaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubnl0aW1lcy5jb20vMjAyMC 8wNS8xMy90ZWNobm9sb2d5L2Nvcm9uYXZpcnVzLXZhY2NpbmUt ZGlzaW5mb3JtYXRpb24uaHRtbD9jYW1wYWlnbl9pZD05JmVtYz 1lZGl0X25uXzIwMjAwNTE5Jmluc3RhbmNlX2lkPTE4NjAxJm5s PXRoZS1tb3JuaW5nJnJlZ2lfaWQ9ODA4MjE3OTcmc2VnbWVudF 9pZD0yODQwOSZ0ZT0xJnVzZXJfaWQ9OTkyZDYwODIxNGI1MDUw MDNhYTA0YmYxMGE1OTUwMzFXA255dEIKACknucNeoVv3sFITZG Fybm9jbmVsQGdtYWlsLmNvbVgEAAAAAA~~). Given this skepticism, a coronavirus vaccine that did more harm than good could cause much broader damage.





It could lead people around the world to stop taking vaccines that actually work. That’s what happened in the Philippines after the dengue scandal.





All of which is a reminder that promising early results — like yesterday’s — often prove fleeting. Only about 10 percent of drugs that clear the first research phase ultimately make it to market.

-- NY Times email

leemajors
05-19-2020, 09:45 AM
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article242773056.html

boutons_deux
05-19-2020, 10:28 AM
Vaccinations Fall to Alarming Rates, C.D.C. Study Shows

In Michigan, fewer than half of infants 5 months or younger are up to date on their vaccinations, which may allow for

outbreaks in diseases like measles.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/18/health/vaccinations-rates-coronavirus.html

boutons_deux
05-19-2020, 11:07 AM
The Bungling Superpower:

COVID-19 Has Recast America as a Global Chump :lol TRASH executing EXACTLY Pootin's geopolitics of destroying USA

Even at its worst, America has always been considered competent.

Now, the combination of Donald Trump and coronavirus has cast the U.S. as pathetically inept. And it’s not a good look.

thanks to the combination of Trump’s much-mocked America First doctrine and his administration’s chaotic and chuckleheaded response to the coronavirus,

the Trump administration has recast our brand in a new way: the bungling superpower.

While Germany is led by a woman with a doctorate in quantum chemistry, (https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/01/angela-merkel-profile)

the U.S. president was suggesting that people inject disinfectant to cure the virus. (https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/04/trump-actually-suggests-injecting-disinfectants-could-cure-coronavirus) :lol

Irish Times (https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/fintan-o-toole-donald-trump-has-destroyed-the-country-he-promised-to-make-great-again-1.4235928?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fopinion% 2Ffintan-o-toole-donald-trump-has-destroyed-the-country-he-promised-to-make-great-again-1.4235928) that

“the world has loved, hated, and envied the U.S. Now, for the first time, we pity it.”

The emotion is not pity, but schadenfreude:

people around the world are taking a secret pleasure in the U.S.’s ineptitude.

the increasing non-essentialness of America among nations and the discrediting of the American model of governance and capitalism.

As the world celebrated the 75th anniversary of VE Day a couple of weeks ago, ...

the U.S. was conspicuously absent. (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/04/world/europe/eu-coronavirus-vaccine.html)

Macron said, “is on the sidelines.”

the images of nurses in New York City wearing garbage bags (https://nypost.com/2020/03/25/worker-at-nyc-hospital-where-nurses-wear-trash-bags-as-protection-dies-from-coronavirus/) for personal protection circulated around the globe.

America “has never seemed so fragile.”

We looked like a failed first-world state.

“in pandemics there are builders and destroyers” and that Trump is the latter.

something new when an American president boasts about an experimental hypersonic missile by saying, (https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/498148-trump-touts-new-super-duper-missile-that-can-allegedly-travel-17) “I call it the super-duper missile.”

Right now, the winners in the fight against the coronavirus are

New Zealand, South Korea, Taiwan, the Czech Republic, and Canada—

countries that reacted quickly, did not panic, and used science and data to combat the virus.

It remains to be seen how China and Russia will be perceived.

But to use a title from Trump’s beloved reality TV, we are The Biggest Loser.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/05/covid-19-has-recast-america-as-a-global-chump?utm_source=nl&utm_brand=vf&utm_mailing=VF_Hive_051920&utm_medium=email&bxid=5bd6795524c17c1048022fcc&cndid=43758549&hasha=992d608214b505003aa04bf10a595031&hashb=542eb31d958e85ddd5a4c3ccf3faae18526a77bd&hashc=54b3612ab970ce13a64a16665b1987080ca5b72e2ee7 62b722fbba6ab378f2f5&esrc=bounceX&utm_campaign=VF_Hive_051920&utm_term=VYF_Hive

Will Pootin reward Trash with that Trump International Hotel in Moscow?

DarrinS
05-19-2020, 12:25 PM
Moderna vaccine 'Great' results

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2020/05/18/moderna-coronavirus-potential-vaccine-study-tests-results/

phxspurfan
05-19-2020, 12:36 PM
Moderna vaccine 'Great' results

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2020/05/18/moderna-coronavirus-potential-vaccine-study-tests-results/

Looks great. I’ll take redness as a side effect. Fuck, if it means that shit won’t affect my lungs, give me pink and purple spots. I’ll even take growing a tail and feathers just let me live

Chris
05-19-2020, 12:51 PM
https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/status/1262257093031202816?s=19

look at them numbers :lol

spurraider21
05-19-2020, 12:57 PM
:lmao


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZUKSxE2UZg

Chris
05-19-2020, 01:16 PM
https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1262729035362316288?s=19

Reck
05-19-2020, 01:26 PM
https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/status/1262257093031202816?s=19

look at them numbers :lol

That's because Between California and New York, we are the one bailing the wellfarers like yourself who cant provide for themselves.

:lol Bragging about handouts.

Reck
05-19-2020, 01:28 PM
https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1262729035362316288?s=19

https://www.washingtonpost.com/resizer/1XrKah-7oY-okfYIZDxDB2HW3-0=/1023x0/smart/arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/MXC2DNZAY45NBM5JOGVLP3NUPQ.png

DarrinS
05-19-2020, 01:38 PM
Masks reduce transmission

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/19/coronavirus-wearing-a-mask-can-reduce-transmission-by-75percent-new-study-claims.html

ChumpDumper
05-19-2020, 02:05 PM
https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/status/1262257093031202816?s=19

look at them numbers :lolLook at Greg mocking the dead. Classy.

baseline bum
05-19-2020, 02:11 PM
Masks reduce transmission

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/19/coronavirus-wearing-a-mask-can-reduce-transmission-by-75percent-new-study-claims.html

Shit pissed me off at HEB and Walmart today seeing people taking their masks off or pulling them down once let in the store. There was one lady in a scooter who looked to have trouble breathing so fine, she can take hers off, but the other eight people I saw all looked fine and healthy. It's such a big fuck you to other shoppers and especially to the workers in the store.

spurraider21
05-19-2020, 02:39 PM
:lmao LkrFan

1260639967065321474

spurraider21
05-19-2020, 02:40 PM
.

LkrFan
05-19-2020, 02:51 PM
:lmao LkrFan

1260639967065321474

Dayum :lmao

LkrFan
05-19-2020, 02:55 PM
Qhris put me on mute or ignore? :rollin :lmao :rollin

Below is a response to his post even though you can't tell. He maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad at me :lol

That's because the numbers aren't true in Texas Georgia or Florida to help the Orange menace. They're much higher. Kemp (Georgia's criminal Governor) just got caught. Abbot seems smarter (but still a criminal) so he might get away with it.

Blake
05-19-2020, 02:56 PM
https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/status/1262257093031202816?s=19

look at them numbers :lol

Lol "morality rate"

Bragging about balanced budgets a time like this over deaths and getting the most positive tests yet the other day. What a fucking asshat

LkrFan
05-19-2020, 02:57 PM
Qhrissy is mentally weak like his dear leader :lol

Blake
05-19-2020, 02:59 PM
Masks reduce transmission

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/19/coronavirus-wearing-a-mask-can-reduce-transmission-by-75percent-new-study-claims.html

Tell Abbott

DarrinS
05-19-2020, 03:06 PM
Shit pissed me off at HEB and Walmart today seeing people taking their masks off or pulling them down once let in the store. There was one lady in a scooter who looked to have trouble breathing so fine, she can take hers off, but the other eight people I saw all looked fine and healthy. It's such a big fuck you to other shoppers and especially to the workers in the store.

Yeah, and people don't seem to follow social distancing either. I wonder if some people in this town don't even know what's going on?

tholdren
05-19-2020, 03:08 PM
Lol "morality rate"

Bragging about balanced budgets a time like this over deaths and getting the most positive tests yet the other day. What a fucking asshat
Weird there would be more positives when more tests available. How?

Blake
05-19-2020, 03:19 PM
Weird there would be more positives when more tests available. How?

Weirder to brag that our death totals are less than others.

Blake
05-19-2020, 03:21 PM
Yeah, and people don't seem to follow social distancing either. I wonder if some people in this town don't even know what's going on?

A lot of them listened to Abbott saying cities cannot cite people for not wearing masks

tholdren
05-19-2020, 03:31 PM
Weirder to brag that our death totals are less than others.
Isn't that what the cdc wants? Isn't higher totals what their whole model theory is based around? Heaven forbid the death totals of people staying home from the hospital get close to toals of people dying with covid.... look for answers not political affiliates to blame.

ChumpDumper
05-19-2020, 03:42 PM
Isn't that what the cdc wants?No. That was easy.

DarrinS
05-19-2020, 03:50 PM
Tell Abbott


A lot of them listened to Abbott saying cities cannot cite people for not wearing masks

I get it. Abbott bad.

baseline bum
05-19-2020, 03:52 PM
I get it. Abbott bad.

On undermining cities' mask laws he is, along with Ken Paxton.

Blake
05-19-2020, 04:06 PM
I get it. Abbott bad.

No you don't.

Blake
05-19-2020, 04:09 PM
Isn't that what the cdc wants? Isn't higher totals what their whole model theory is based around? Heaven forbid the death totals of people staying home from the hospital get close to toals of people dying with covid.... look for answers not political affiliates to blame.

What a horrible red herring

tholdren
05-19-2020, 04:13 PM
What a horrible red herring

yep. You're right. No one ever thought the models would be incorrect. And no one ever said only the typically at risj would be at risk...... zzzzzz

hater
05-19-2020, 04:27 PM
I dont understand why inbred trump “liberty” supporters hate the fact they have to use masks

stupid fucks dont realize that Deep State would rather everyone NOT wear a mask so they can monitor and facial recognize everyone?

sometimes I feel like these inbred Fox watching Orangegutan dicksucking pieces of human excrement dont have a fucking brain

hater
05-19-2020, 04:28 PM
True liberty and Freedom experts like me are happy about the fact we all can use masks anywhere :tu

RIP facial recognition

DarrinS
05-19-2020, 05:06 PM
I dont understand why inbred trump “liberty” supporters hate the fact they have to use masks

stupid fucks dont realize that Deep State would rather everyone NOT wear a mask so they can monitor and facial recognize everyone?

sometimes I feel like these inbred Fox watching Orangegutan dicksucking pieces of human excrement dont have a fucking brain

I notice it's a lot of illegal aliens not wearing masks. I doubt those vatos are watching the news. They're probably wondering why all the wetos are wearing masks. :lol

Blake
05-19-2020, 05:10 PM
I notice it's a lot of illegal aliens not wearing masks.

:lol if course

tholdren
05-19-2020, 05:20 PM
I dont understand why inbred trump “liberty” supporters hate the fact they have to use masks

stupid fucks dont realize that Deep State would rather everyone NOT wear a mask so they can monitor and facial recognize everyone?

sometimes I feel like these inbred Fox watching Orangegutan dicksucking pieces of human excrement dont have a fucking brain

I dont get that either. But I also don't get why people think others can't go out without a mask. These same.people can't articulate how the virus will automatically spread if someone doesn't wear a mask. See ChumpDumper.... he/she has generalized, at length, the dangers of gatherings, but can nor has ever said what science makes gatherings or the lack of a mask dangerous.

Spurminator
05-19-2020, 05:21 PM
I notice it's a lot of illegal aliens not wearing masks. I doubt those vatos are watching the news. They're probably wondering why all the wetos are wearing masks. :lol

Are you asking them for papers?

ChumpDumper
05-19-2020, 05:25 PM
I dont get that either. But I also don't get why people think others can't go out without a mask. These same.people can't articulate how the virus will automatically spread if someone doesn't wear a mask. See ChumpDumper.... he/she has generalized, at length, the dangers of gatherings, but can nor has ever said what science makes gatherings or the lack of a mask dangerous.:lol you are afraid of me.

According to you, how is the virus spread?

Get really specific and don't leave anything out. You want everyone to believe you're knowledgeable-- prove it.

ChumpDumper
05-19-2020, 05:26 PM
I notice it's a lot of illegal aliens not wearing masks. I doubt those vatos are watching the news. They're probably wondering why all the wetos are wearing masks. :lolHow do you know they're illegal?

DarrinS
05-19-2020, 05:32 PM
How do you know they're illegal?

If you live in San Antonio, you can tell, weto.

baseline bum
05-19-2020, 05:34 PM
I notice it's a lot of illegal aliens not wearing masks. I doubt those vatos are watching the news. They're probably wondering why all the wetos are wearing masks. :lol

I notice a lot of boomers not wearing them either.

apalisoc_9
05-19-2020, 05:35 PM
If you live in San Antonio, you can tell, weto.

Not surprised Darrins practices racial profiling.

pgardn
05-19-2020, 05:37 PM
I dont get that either. But I also don't get why people think others can't go out without a mask. These same.people can't articulate how the virus will automatically spread if someone doesn't wear a mask. See ChumpDumper.... he/she has generalized, at length, the dangers of gatherings, but can nor has ever said what science makes gatherings or the lack of a mask dangerous.

do you think population density increases or decreases the rate of transfer?
do you think people leaving dense gatherings in which the virus is present are more or less likely to spread the virus than people from less dense gatherings? Does proximity of the hosts to each other have anything to do with the spread of the virus?


why do the most successful viruses in transmission use body fluids?

The most prominent viruses, as far as the ability to spread, causehosts to give off body fluids out of what parts of the body?

DMC
05-19-2020, 05:37 PM
I get it. Abbott bad.

No it's anyone Republican bad regardless of their decision.

ChumpDumper
05-19-2020, 05:40 PM
If you live in San Antonio, you can tell, weto.I lived in San Antonio for a decade.

How can you tell?

pgardn
05-19-2020, 05:42 PM
If you live in San Antonio, you can tell, weto.

based on my anecdotal evidence.
stop by Walmart today to pick up my favorite spoon for redfish and every single person I saw had a mask, no one was missing a mask inside that store.

hater
05-19-2020, 05:54 PM
I dont get that either. But I also don't get why people think others can't go out without a mask. These same.people can't articulate how the virus will automatically spread if someone doesn't wear a mask. See ChumpDumper.... he/she has generalized, at length, the dangers of gatherings, but can nor has ever said what science makes gatherings or the lack of a mask dangerous.

I believe business owners should make the call if their clientele should wear a mask. its very similar to them requiring sleved shirt or shoes tbqh

I dont see how ppl can get mad at business owners for requiring masks. the science is there that they help preventing infection

outdoor in public places to I agree it should not be required to wear a mask

hater
05-19-2020, 05:55 PM
I notice it's a lot of illegal aliens not wearing masks. I doubt those vatos are watching the news. They're probably wondering why all the wetos are wearing masks. :lol

how do u know they are illegal?

hater
05-19-2020, 05:56 PM
If you live in San Antonio, you can tell, weto.

:lmao no you cant especially in san antonio

maybe in alabama or new hampshire

but not in san antonio

DMC
05-19-2020, 05:57 PM
Not surprised Darrins practices racial profiling.

Practice isn't really required.

DMC
05-19-2020, 05:58 PM
based on my anecdotal evidence.
stop by Walmart today to pick up my favorite spoon for redfish and every single person I saw had a mask, no one was missing a mask inside that store.

Worth risking COVID for a lure but good lord if someone doesn't wear a hanky over their nose and mouth... insta-death.

hater
05-19-2020, 05:59 PM
Practice isn't really required.

some words have multiple meanings, nancy

baseline bum
05-19-2020, 06:03 PM
how do u know they are illegal?

Prob selling chicle y plata in the parking lot

pgardn
05-19-2020, 06:09 PM
Worth risking COVID for a lure but good lord if someone doesn't wear a hanky over their nose and mouth... insta-death.

I see people complying. Im not going to go yelling at people either way.

And I am not stopping my favorite practices that are still allowed. I doubt I will be within six feet of anyone on the water I paddle and I wear a Simms mask for the sun, might help... I will take my N95 down with me anyway.
Im not an old weak man nor have I had any symptoms close to those associated with the virus.

The worst thing that could happen to me is knowing I cause a whole lot of people to have to track down their contacts and worry because I gave it to them.
Im gonna be fine... most likely.

pgardn
05-19-2020, 06:11 PM
Prob selling chicle y plata in the parking lot

Have a tool belt?

DarrinS
05-19-2020, 06:51 PM
how do u know they are illegal?

When Hispanic people here don't understand them. :lol

DarrinS
05-19-2020, 06:53 PM
I notice a lot of boomers not wearing them either.

Doesn't surprise me

ChumpDumper
05-19-2020, 06:55 PM
The people walking around with their masks lowered but still around their faces crack me up. That's less comfortable than just wearing it normally.

DarrinS
05-19-2020, 07:07 PM
I try to get my mom, in her 70's, to be more concerned, but she don't GAF, tbh. She got a haircut yesterday.

It's weird that some old people are less paranoid than some young people, who have very little risk.

ChumpDumper
05-19-2020, 07:11 PM
May be faith or an acceptance of one's mortality; COVID-19 is a pretty shitty way to go though.

tholdren
05-19-2020, 07:13 PM
May be faith or an acceptance of one's mortality; COVID-19 is a pretty shitty way to go though.
You're right man people are so.lucky you are here to tell them how bad this disease which i am sure you have experienced with your wealth of knowledge regarding transmission mortality and risks. Good everyone is listening to you

ChumpDumper
05-19-2020, 07:14 PM
You're right man people are so.lucky you are here to tell them how bad this disease which i am sure you have experienced with your wealth of knowledge regarding transmission mortality and risks. Good everyone is listening to you:lol you're still melting down.

DarrinS
05-19-2020, 07:14 PM
May be faith or an acceptance of one's mortality; COVID-19 is a pretty shitty way to go though.

Alone on a stupid ass ventilator would be the worst. I think that happened too frequently early on in the pandemic, and continues to happen to people who seek treatment late.

tholdren
05-19-2020, 07:17 PM
:lol you're still melting down.
No please show me again that evidence, you know the science, regarding all of the hospitals over capacity and the lies about furloughs, I want to help you with your task of giving people information instead of gossip.

ChumpDumper
05-19-2020, 07:18 PM
NoYes. You have permanently lost your shit.

All because of me.

tholdren
05-19-2020, 07:21 PM
Yes. You have permanently lost your shit.

All because of me.

Why aren't you showing the evidence? This way everyone could change their mind, like me, when I realized you did have all the answers and the facts. You could share with the white house and save our nation

spurraider21
05-19-2020, 07:25 PM
I try to get my mom, in her 70's, to be more concerned, but she don't GAF, tbh. She got a haircut yesterday.

It's weird that some old people are less paranoid than some young people, who have very little risk.
does she think its all a hoax/conspiracy? legitimately curious (i know my folks think that)

clambake
05-19-2020, 07:25 PM
You could share with the white house and save our nation

It was shared to the White House....in November


Guess what happened next