Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

[Winehole23]

:lmao Australia :lmao

:lol fuck


https://twitter.com/greysfan/status/1434394953963098113?s=19stoking social antagonism takes the heat off the pols for their incompetence and mismanagement, if it is that.

[Winehole23]

stoking social antagonism takes the heat off the pols for their incompetence and mismanagement, if it is that.for precisely this reason, peddlers of lies and disinformation like hater are their useful idiots

[hater]

for precisely this reason, peddlers of lies and disinformation like hater are their useful idiots

Fake news from whinetroll bot account

[hater]

:lmao :lol :lol :lmao :lol


https://twitter.com/laraf87/status/1435346491435061254?s=19

[Winehole23]

this is what systemic public health failure looks like


In a press briefing (https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/press-briefings/2021/08/31/press-briefing-by-white-house-covid-19-response-team-and-public-health-officials-53/) last week, the White House announced that as part of its Covid-19 surge response team, it has deployed over 350 EMTs, doctors, nurses and other healthcare professionals to Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama to provide emergency medical care.


The response teams are also working with 18 states “pulling (https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/press-briefings/2021/08/31/press-briefing-by-white-house-covid-19-response-team-and-public-health-officials-53/) in personnel, resources, supplies, and expertise from across the federal government, including from Department of Health and Human Services, Centers for Disease Control, Federal Emergency Management Agency, Department of Defense, and the Veterans Affairs to address state specific needs.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/07/covid-us-south-military-doctors

[Winehole23]

Fake news from whinetroll bot accountnot at all, it's more like gnomic poetry.

"the sky is blue, the grass is green, the buck strides into the meadow with a loud fart."

[Winehole23]

hater sows chaos and peddles disinformation

[hater]

hater sows chaos and peddles disinformation

Says the whinetroll bot account thats rooting for children deaths, schools closing and chaos in schools


Smh

[Winehole23]

Modi is shook

India restricts religious festivals over new Covid surge fears (https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20210908-india-restricts-religious-festivals-over-new-covid-surge-fears)

[Winehole23]

Says the whinetroll bot account thats rooting for children deaths, schools closing and chaos in schools


SmhI want the schools closed so there aren't deaths and chaos. That's the opposite of cheering it on, it's an explicit criticism of the status quo.

Logical inconsistency is a recurring motif in your posts, maybe you should cut down on the spaz posting.

[hater]

I want the schools closed so there aren't deaths and chaos. That's the opposite of cheering it on, it's an explicit criticism of the status quo.

Logical inconsistency is a recurring motif in your posts, maybe you should cut down on the spaz posting.

Schools have been open for a month. There is no death and chaos. U are rooting for it and still clinging on hope that child deaths will.start to pour in. Its a sick fantasy. .glad its just a fantasy as it wont come true :tu

Still. Shame.on you.

[Winehole23]

feeling defensive?

a little bit insecure?

:lol

[Winehole23]

anecdotal

1435472689766952960

[hater]

feeling defensive?

a little bit insecure?

:lol

Just checking assholes..yours reeks of child death salivation

[Winehole23]

stealing their shit and lashing out defensively :lol

[hater]

Just checking assholes..yours reeks of child death salivation

[Winehole23]

pobrecito hater

[RandomGuy]

Maybe people should wonder why two former "Young Turks" (lol) left the left.

Why did they?

[Winehole23]

Germany keeps things normal-ish by universal free rapid testing. Odd we haven't tried that yet.

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[Winehole23]

Tennessee: fucked


On Tuesday, the Tennessee Department of Health reported nearly 3,700 people were being treated for COVID-19 in the state's hospitals. At least 67 children are currently hospitalized because of the virus.

Local health leaders have stressed they're unsure when those numbers will begin to decline.

"At this point, to be quite frank, we really don't know how high that number's going to go," University of Tennessee Medical Center's Dr. James Shamiyeh said on Thursday. "The situation is accelerating and we are becoming increasingly concerned."
https://www.wbir.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-numbers/a-critical-junction-doctors-urge-caution-covid-19-continues-to-surge-in-tennessee/51-9ce01331-cd2c-4e2d-aa2b-262699d4a087

[ElNono]

stoking social antagonism takes the heat off the pols for their incompetence and mismanagement, if it is that.

Looks like nothing else worked... at the end of the day, if social shunning works, it's a means to an end.

[Winehole23]

Looks like nothing else worked... at the end of the day, if social shunning works, it's a means to an end.Perhaps, I tend to doubt it'll work.

It is striking how some folks' commitment to universal health care wanes when it involves someone whom they think might have voted for Trump.

We don't deny smokers treatment for COPD or drunk drivers trauma care when they get in a wreck, nor is doing so generally denounced.

[Winehole23]

if you want to vent on people you don't like, vent. just don't pretend there's some principle that justifies it.

[Winehole23]

that said, when hospital systems are forced to ration care because they're overwhelmed, it makes sense to treat the patients with the best chance of survival first.

that might include putting unvaxxed COVID patients at the end of the line.

[hater]

Goddam good article from 2009 :wow

Does the Vaccine Matter?

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2009/11/does-the-vaccine-matter/307723/

those were the days when questioning vaccines were mainstream :lol


WHY, THEN, HAS the federal government stockpiled millions of doses of antivirals, at a cost of several billion dollars? And why are physicians being encouraged to hand out prescriptions to large numbers of people, without sound evidence that the drugs will help? The short answer may be that public-health officials feel they must offer something, and these drugs are the only possible remedies at hand. “I have to agree with the critics the antiviral question is not cut-and-dried,” says Fauci. “But [these drugs are] the best we have.” The CDC’s Nancy Cox also acknowledges that the science is not as sound as she might like, but the government still recommends their use. And as with vaccines, she considers additional randomized placebo-controlled trials of the antiviral drugs to be “unethical” and thus out of the question.

This is the curious state of debate about the government’s two main weapons in the fight against pandemic flu. At first, government officials declare that both vaccines and drugs are effective. When faced with contrary evidence, the adherents acknowledge that the science is not as crisp as they might wish. Then, in response to calls for placebo-controlled trials, which would provide clear results one way or the other, the proponents say such studies would deprive patients of vaccines and drugs that have already been deemed effective. “We can’t just let people die,” says Cox.

[hater]

:lmao holy shit Falsuchi was a flip flopper for so many decades: :lol

In a phone interview, Fauci at first voiced the opinion that a placebo trial in the elderly might be acceptable, but he called back later to retract his comment, saying that such a trial “would be unethical.”


:lol Falsuchi

[Trainwreck2100]

:lmao holy shit Falsuchi was a flip flopper for so many decades: :lol

In a phone interview, Fauci at first voiced the opinion that a placebo trial in the elderly might be acceptable, but he called back later to retract his comment, saying that such a trial “would be unethical.”


:lol Falsuchi

yeah that's not flip flopping, he probably talked to someone in medical ethics, that's a real thing btw.

[hater]

yeah that's not flip flopping, he probably talked to someone in medical ethics, that's a real thing btw.

That's bold faced flip flopping right there :lmao :lol :lol :lmao :lol

"I mispoke" :lol

:lol F:lollsuchi :lol

[Trainwreck2100]

That's bold faced flip flopping right there :lmao :lol :lol :lmao :lol

"I mispoke" :lol

:lol F:lollsuchi :lol

so he should have ignored what was told to him by medical ethics just because he made a less informed decision hours before?

[hater]

so he should have ignored what was told to him by medical ethics just because he made a less informed decision hours before?

Less Informed is the definition of Fauci too tbqh. as head of NIH this fuckface shoulda been inforned huh?

Im ok with replacing "flip flopper" with "low information lemming" :tu

[Trainwreck2100]

Germany keeps things normal-ish by universal free rapid testing. Odd we haven't tried that yet.

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then they'll do what they did in the beginning and say the tests are giving people covid.

[Thread]

that said, when hospital systems are forced to ration care because they're overwhelmed, it makes sense to treat the patients with the best chance of survival first.

that might include putting unvaxxed COVID patients at the end of the line.

Then open a shitload of those MASH units like President Trump did.

Pull anchor on that hospital ship in NYC and send her down the Eastern seaboard, stop in south Florida, then onto to Louisiana and Texas, around Cape Horn, if the crew will have it, go North, stop in San Diego, Los Angeles and Frisco, then up to Oregon and Washington state. Then get her turned around and do the whole thing again.

Bon voyage!!!

[Trainwreck2100]

Less Informed is the definition of Fauci too tbqh. as head of NIH this fuckface shoulda been inforned huh?

Im ok with replacing "flip flopper" with "low information lemming" :tu

:lol how many people do you think are medical ethics experts, :lol its a study that is so niche because it rarely comes into use and it doesn't pay shit.

[hater]

:lol how many people do you think are medical ethics experts, :lol its a study that is so niche because it rarely comes into use.

testing vaccines on old ppl using placebos is "niche"????


:lmao ok

[Thread]

:lol how many people do you think are medical ethics experts, :lol its a study that is so niche because it rarely comes into use and it doesn't pay shit.

They got a shitload of 'em on the CNN. They've written a likewise shitload of books to prove it and CNN shows said shitload whenever the (((medical ethics experts))) appear on CNN, wrecky.

[Trainwreck2100]

testing vaccines on old ppl using placebos is "niche"????


:lmao ok
that's not medical ethics, that's scientific method

but to answer you, the question of placebos during a novel pandemic is a niche question hater because we don't get those but once every few decades.

[hater]

"it's unethical"

"what did I say?"

"you said it's cool"

"and which is it?"

"unethical"

"ok now what?"

"call them back"


:lmao

[Ef-man]

Florida bends the knee.

A Florida judge ruled against Gov. Ron Desantis on Wednesday and allowed schools in the state to mandate face-masks while the case is appealed at a higher level.

The ruling from Second Circuit Judge John Cooper, effective immediately, means the state of Florida must stop enforcement of banning mask mandates -- which ends sanctions against several school districts who have implemented such mandates.
The decision comes amid heated showdowns between the state and some local school districts, which have insisted on requiring students to wear masks amid a surge of Covid-19 infections.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/08/us/florida-mask-mandate-schools/index.html

[Trainwreck2100]

"it's unethical"

"what did I say?"

"you said it's cool"

"and which is it?"

"unethical"

"ok now what?"

"call them back"


:lmao

yeah what's wrong with taking advice from someone who knows more about medical ethics. The question is literally which is more medically ethical designing an experiment with no placebos or having a placebo group.

[baseline bum]

Germany keeps things normal-ish by universal free rapid testing. Odd we haven't tried that yet.

1435454723365220352

I thought we do. Walgreens and CVS offer free PCR and IDNOW tests, though you have to do it in your car. I think Qwest Diagnostics offers the tests free also.

[RandomGuy]

Were there even 55M people who tested positive?

No

Were the emergency rooms overrun with COVID patients?

No

What's your point other than your typical Jethro Bodine ciphering exhibition?

Took a bit longer, but here is what happens when you don't vaccinate, and stop doing things like masks and lockdowns.

Officials: Health care rationing could spread across Idaho
https://news.yahoo.com/officials-health-care-rationing-could-155537023.html


This shit is not that difficult to grasp.

[Winehole23]

I thought we do. Walgreens and CVS offer free PCR and IDNOW tests, though you have to do it in your car. I think Qwest Diagnostics offers the tests free also.One difference in Germany is that you can get them mailed to you at home for free, making it easy for Germans to comply with requirements that one be vaxxed, tested or recovered from COVID before going to a gym, movie, restaurant, school, etc.

[Winehole23]

@RG: in epidemiology, success looks like an overreaction.

that hospitals were not overwhelmed by COVID patients last year might just as well be an argument for countermeasures as against them. suggesting countermeasures were overblown because hospitals weren't overwhelmed is akin to arguing birth control isn't necessary because your gf didn't get pregnant last time you rawdogged her.

[Thread]

One difference in Germany is that you can get them mailed to you at home for free, making it easy for Germans to comply with requirements that one be vaxxed, tested or recovered from COVID before going to a gym, movie, restaurant, school, etc.

The Germans have all that extra $ laying around due to the fact of their Uncle Adolf, Winester. And all their children are present and accounted for because of their Uncle Adolf.

Our children? Well, 13 of 'em came back just last week...

For there's a guard and there's a sad, old padre
On and on, we'll walk at daybreak
Again, I'll touch the green, green grass of home

[hater]

"We have hope. Theres no data. But we have lots of Hope"

:lmao :lol :lmao

Follow the...... hope? :lol

https://twitter.com/MassimoAdespota/status/1435658484561940482?s=19

[hater]

:lmao :lol :lmao :lol

Barely been 6 weeks since 3rd dose

:lmao

Holeeeee sheeet :lol



https://twitter.com/GillianMcKeith/status/1434278169985667076?s=19

[Thread]

"We have hope. Theres no data. But we have lots of Hope"

:lmao :lol :lmao

Follow the...... hope? :lol

https://twitter.com/MassimoAdespota/status/1435658484561940482?s=19

Go on, hater, testify!!!

hater

[hater]

:lol

https://twitter.com/Chelsea_FC369/status/1434284363861090308?s=19

[Ef-man]

“It’s going to disappear. It is disappearing.”

- President Trump

[Thread]

“It’s going to disappear. It is disappearing.”

- President Trump

And mother fucker Biden made it reappear. 30 stacks of High Society are on their way.

I'm totin' 'em.

[hater]

yeah what's wrong with taking advice from someone who knows more about medical ethics. The question is literally which is more medically ethical designing an experiment with no placebos or having a placebo group.

That someone is his wife :lol hes married to the bioethics head at NIH

And he still got the wrong answer :lmao :lol :lmao. And had to flip flop :lmao


You cant make this shit up :lmao :lol

[Trainwreck2100]

That someone is his wife :lol hes married to the bioethics head at NIH

And he still got the wrong answer :lmao :lol :lmao. And had to flip flop :lmao


You cant make this shit up :lmao :lol


So once again just to be sure you're laughing at him for *checks notes* doing the right thing?

[hater]

So once again just to be sure you're laughing at him for *checks notes* doing the right thing?

Nope. Saying "Im not sure how to answer that." Or "let me get back to you on that" would have been the right thing.

He just ran his mouf like he always does and had to backtrack and flip flop like he ALWAYS does

[hater]

Pfizer = garbage

Hopefully JJ and.Moderna save us :tu

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1435580267603894279?s=19

[hater]

:tu

https://twitter.com/DrTedros/status/1435683477907779593?s=19



Stop the booster madness. Israel talking to you lunatics

[hater]

:lmao what a shitshow

White House not following science thus fighting w WHO for political reasons :lmao

"Follow the science they said" :lmao


https://twitter.com/joekillian3/status/1435727925949652993?s=19



The booster mandate is dead in the water. No way most ppl follow these clowns :tu

We weill not have a booster mandate.this year. Calling it now :tu

[Thread]

Oops, I was dead wrong on that.

[Thread]

That damn Socky girl is so ugly I'm turned on.

[Thread]

:lmao what a shitshow

White House not following science thus fighting w WHO for political reasons :lmao

"Follow the science they said" :lmao


https://twitter.com/joekillian3/status/1435727925949652993?s=19



The booster mandate is dead in the water. No way most ppl follow these clowns :tu

We weill not have a booster mandate.this year. Calling it now :tu

It will be fascinating to see how Biden with the assistance of CNN/MSNBC/MSM gets away with this one, hater. I don't put it past 'em though.

[hater]

It will be fascinating to see how Biden with the assistance of CNN/MSNBC/MSM gets away with this one, hater. I don't put it past 'em though.

It will be a sight to see these fuckers squirm for their boosters for political reasons. They need the boosters to have a chance to survive the midterms imo. Screw the science.

They had all their ducks in a row and were waiting on the rubber stamps from.CDC and FDA. Then the "oh shit" moment happened. :lol

Of course Falsuchi was the first idiot to rubber stamp the boosters. If this goes to hell he will.be the first to say boosters are not necessary :lmao


Live by the Falsuchi die by the Falsuchi :lol

[SnakeBoy]

Biden seeks pandemic reset as cases and deaths flare
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-daily-202-biden-seeks-pandemic-reset-as-cases-and-deaths-flare/ar-AAOe6Ef?ocid=uxbndlbing


Failing Joe Biden will try pressing the reset button on Thursday

[Thread]

Biden seeks pandemic reset as cases and deaths flare
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-daily-202-biden-seeks-pandemic-reset-as-cases-and-deaths-flare/ar-AAOe6Ef?ocid=uxbndlbing


Failing Joe Biden will try pressing the reset button on Thursday

We ain't resetting the count if that's what he's aiming for. Uh, uh. I got my 30 stacks of High Society building nicely.

We ain't starting over. No.

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1435724905320943622?s=19

[American Citizen]

https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1435724905320943622?s=19

Maybe the few thousand who watch him will take that to heart. :lol

[hater]

:lmao dr Chant

:lol Aussie cucks

https://twitter.com/wong_d0_mein/status/1435810829316677636?s=19

[Winehole23]

proactive discussion of "crisis standards of care" does not inspire confidence, and most people probably don't know what that means.

it means rationing health care.

remember "death panels"?

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[Winehole23]

1435969893745270789

[Winehole23]

what this means in Idaho


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-tD9olVgAEhah-?format=jpg&name=900x900

[spurraider21]

That damn Socky girl is so ugly I'm turned on.
did shuckabee do it for you?

[Winehole23]

health care rationing coming soon to Georgia, or is it already there?

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[Winehole23]

Hawaii buckling up for a bumpy ride

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[Winehole23]

fuck you hater, for spreading bullshit about vaccines and masks

in the aggregate bad faith propagandists like you share responsibility for this with bad public health policy and messaging.


At the WSHA's briefing the week before (https://patch.com/washington/seattle/wa-covid-death-tolls-rise-hospitalization-surge-grows), doctors confirmed that several rural hospitals had been so full of COVID-19 patients that they had had to deny service to patients with other diseases or illnesses.



Denial of service may become more severe as the hospitalization rate continues to grow, warns the DOH.

https://patch.com/washington/seattle/hospital-capacity-strains-wa-doh-prepares-worst

[Ef-man]

fuck you hater, for spreading bullshit about vaccines and masks

in the aggregate bad faith propagandists like you share responsibility for this with bad public health policy and messaging.

https://patch.com/washington/seattle/hospital-capacity-strains-wa-doh-prepares-worst

He will copy/paste anything looking for a “I called it” moment.

Sad.

[hater]

fuck you hater, for spreading bullshit about vaccines and masks

in the aggregate bad faith propagandists like you share responsibility for this with bad public health policy and messaging.

https://patch.com/washington/seattle/hospital-capacity-strains-wa-doh-prepares-worst

:lmao what a self meltdown :lol

Whinetroll :lol


Call your doc to up your meds, Cruella

[Winehole23]

no surprise here, COVID is wrecking elder care


Nursing homes were closing before the pandemic: more than 550 (https://leadingage.org/sites/default/files/Nursing%20Home%20Closures%20and%20Trends%202020.pd f)from June 2015 to June 2019, more shuttering each year than the previous one, affected by staffing shortages, high costs and a decline in occupancy.


But the coronavirus pandemic has hit nursing homes particularly hard, killing more than 186,000 residents and staff (https://www.aarp.org/ppi/issues/caregiving/info-2020/nursing-home-covid-dashboard.html) and pushing the industry into what experts have warned is its “worst financial crisis in history.” Now, only one in four (https://19thnews.org/2021/07/nursing-homes-crisis/) of the country’s 15,600 nursing homes is confident it can survive the coming months, according to a recent survey.


If large numbers of nursing homes close, it’d be “a nightmare,” said Kimberly Posey, a gerontological nurse practitioner and assistant professor at Texas Christian University. Around 1.2 million people (https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/number-of-nursing-facility-residents/?currentTimeframe=0&sortModel=%7B%22colId%22:%22Location%22,%22sort%22 :%22asc%22%7D) live in nursing homes, the majority of whom require some level of care.


“I really don’t know where they would go,” Posey said.
https://19thnews.org/2021/09/the-pandemic-continues-to-strain-nursing-homes-what-happens-if-a-lot-of-them-close/

[Thread]

did shuckabee do it for you?

No, her eyes were too close together. Though not as bad as that Spear's girl eyes are too far apart. Ugh.

[Winehole23]

rationing coming soon to Utah

get your ass in here, tholdren


1330624711978491905

[Thread]

rationing coming soon to Utah

get your ass in here, tholdren (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=29395)


1330624711978491905

- "Promises, promises."

- Ernie "The Cat" Ladd

[Adam Lambert]

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Bold move. Seems impossible to enforce, tbh. But we'll see how it plays out.

[hater]

1436049278020067328

Bold move. Seems impossible to enforce, tbh. But we'll see how it plays out.

Im sure states will sue. And this will go to courts.

[hater]

Called it :tu

Damn Im.good :tu

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1435962978222977025?s=19

[hater]

Goddam hater :wow

https://twitter.com/govkristinoem/status/1436060414970892288?s=19

[ChumpDumper]

hater thinks someone in the world said this wouldn't be challenged in court.

[Adam Lambert]

hater thinks someone in the world said this wouldn't be challenged in court.

:lmao

I hereby predict the White House will not withdraw its mandate as a result of these challenges.

[hater]

:wow shots fired


https://twitter.com/KristiNoem/status/1436064909654167558?s=19


Called it :tu

[baseline bum]

Im sure states will sue. And this will go to courts.

Just offer citizens $10,000 bounties to sue unvaccinated Trumptards.

[Thread]

:wow shots fired


https://twitter.com/KristiNoem/status/1436064909654167558?s=19


Called it :tu

Spurts

[Thread]

Just offer citizens $10,000 bounties to sue unvaccinated Trumptards.

- "Promises, promises."

- Ernie "The Cat" Ladd

You ain't got a hair on your ass, bum. Nary-a-one.

[Ef-man]

Hater is in fetal position somewhere on hearing his favorite communist powerhouse is doing this:

Cuba begins vaccinating children as young as two for Covid-19!



https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/09/americas/cuba-vaccination-children-covid-19-intl-latam/index.html

[TDMVPDPOY]

so my brother works at a warehouse that had a casual employee with covid who caught it from somewhere but all employees was sent home after a week for quarantine 14 days and get tested (all return negative, but still have to get another test on the 13th day for more accuracy)...all family members in the same household has to be home isolated for 14 days also...what i dont get is isolation starts from date virus was exposed, not date everyone was sent home which was a week later..

now im at home today (i work in food manufacturing, my sister also works at a large retailer that supplies office stationary also isolating at home, my wife a age care worker also staying home...) this is fkn bullshit, even though we can access welfare for no income, but again its bullshit...and derails most of the familys plan was to all go get our first vac jab, now have to resceduled, and we also have a public holiday coming up which will not get paid also...i have to use any accrual annual/sick leave/rdo before i can apply for the covid supplement pay...fk and i just became a full time employee still on probation for 3 months already, have to waste those accrual entitlement paid days...

[SnakeBoy]

Im sure states will sue. And this will go to courts.

That's not the point though. Biden is just trying to give himself political cover because they know what's coming this fall/winter. Laying the groundwork for "It's not my fault, I tried" is all he cares about. There are plenty of things he could do that would actually make a difference but they would all hurt the economy and he's just as scared of that.

[Thread]

That's not the point though. Biden is just trying to give himself political cover because they know what's coming this fall/winter. Laying the groundwork for "It's not my fault, I tried" is all he cares about. There are plenty of things he could do that would actually make a difference but they would all hurt the economy and he's just as scared of that.

Precisely.

[Blake]

That's not the point though. Biden is just trying to give himself political cover because they know what's coming this fall/winter. Laying the groundwork for "It's not my fault, I tried" is all he cares about. There are plenty of things he could do that would actually make a difference but they would all hurt the economy and he's just as scared of that.


Precisely.

Where was this when Trump was in charge

[daboom1]

"No, I don’t think it should be mandatory. I wouldn’t demand it be mandatory."

-Joe Biden on COVID vaccines, December 2020

[hater]

That's not the point though. Biden is just trying to give himself political cover because they know what's coming this fall/winter. Laying the groundwork for "It's not my fault, I tried" is all he cares about. There are plenty of things he could do that would actually make a difference but they would all hurt the economy and he's just as scared of that.

Obviously thus why I said economic (and political) reasons. But I truly believe these lunatics (corporations and politicians) actually believe their bullshit that somehow boosting their way out of the next year will work and they will prevail in midterms. Complete lunacy. Thus why CDC chief even said "we dont have the data about boosters but we have hope"

Its a shitshow of gigantic proportions because all they are doing at minimum is causing chaos in citizenry for at least the next year. And at worst obliterating any remaining confidence in vaccines. You cant vaccinate yourself out of this one.

Already shit blew up in their face when those 2 FDA bosses quit in protest..thats just the beginning

[Thread]

Where was this when Trump was in charge

That was on you, Blake and you acquitted yourself quite admirably. You never let the man breath for one second. You climbed into his shit Day 1 and you've stayed there to this very second.

[Thread]

Obviously thus why I said economic (and political) reasons. But I truly believe these lunatics (corporations and politicians) actually believe their bullshit that somehow boosting their way out of the next year will work and they will prevail in midterms. Complete lunacy. Thus why CDC chief even said "we dont have the data about boosters but we have hope"

Its a shitshow of gigantic proportions because all they are doing at minimum is causing chaos in citizenry for at least the next year. And at worst obliterating any remaining confidence in vaccines.

Already shit blew up in their face when those 2 FDA bosses quit in protest..thats just the beginning

hater, hitting the second plateau.

Rise, oh great one!!!

[Ef-man]

He will copy/paste anything looking for a “I called it” moment.

Sad.


Called it :tu

Damn Im.good :tu

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1435962978222977025?s=19

Called it!

[SnakeBoy]

Where was this when Trump was in charge

What are you talking about?

[hater]

hater, hitting the second plateau.

Rise, oh great one!!!

"Im a doctor but... Dammit. JIM! we cant vaccinate out of this one"

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/Ravarora1/status/1436078176426356736?s=20

They lie every step of the way. It's quite easy to project their next step but when you do some moron will claim it's a "slippery slope fallacy".

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1436117840973729792?s=20

If we saved just one life it was all worth it.

[Ef-man]

‘It’s going to disappear. One day it’s like a miracle – it will disappear’

Trump

[Nathan89]

Even if you are vaccinated you should not participate in the game that the authoritarian democrats are playing.

[Nathan89]

Imagine being a biden voter.:lmao

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1436068995136999425?s=20

If you pay more attention to the logic of the left instead of the momentary lies coming out of their mouth you can see the future.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/JeremyDBoreing/status/1436068144943095809?s=20

Every good American should stand up against the authoritarian democrats.

[daboom1]

Imagine being a biden voter.:lmao

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/NathanLerner/status/1436095952666902531?s=20

Authoritarian democrat strategist. These people are despicable.

[Ef-man]

The numerous times trump lied in saying covid would disappear:

You know, a lot of people think that goes away in April with the heat — as the heat comes in. Typically, that will go away in April.
Feb 10, 2020

China is working very, very hard. I have spoken to President Xi, and they’re working very hard. And if you know anything about him, I think he’ll be in pretty good shape. They’re — they’ve had a rough patch, and I think right now they have it — it looks like they’re getting it under control more and more. They’re getting it more and more under control. So I think that’s a problem that’s going to go away.
Feb 25, 2020

…when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done.
Feb 26, 2020

It’s going to disappear. One day — it’s like a miracle — it will disappear. And from our shores, we — you know, it could get worse before it gets better. It could maybe go away. We’ll see what happens. Nobody really knows.
Feb 27, 2020

I don’t think people are panicking. I said last night — we did an interview on Fox last night, a town hall. I think it was very good. And I said, ‘Calm. You have to be calm.’ It’ll go away.
March 6, 2020

We’re prepared, and we’re doing a great job with it. And it will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away.
March 10, 2020

You know, we need a little a separation until such time as this goes away. It’s going to go away. It’s going to go away.
March 12, 2020

Stay calm. It will go away. You know it — you know it is going away, and it will go away. And we’re going to have a great victory.
March 30, 2020

It’s going to go away, hopefully at the end of the month. And, if not, hopefully it will be soon after that.
March 31, 2020

It is going to go away. It is going away.
April 3, 2020

It did go — it will go away.
April 7, 2020

But a lot of movement and a lot of progress has been made in a vaccine. But I think what happens is it’s going to go away. This is going to go away. And whether it comes back in a modified form in the fall, we’ll be able to handle it.
April 28, 2020

It’s going to go. It’s going to leave. It’s going to be gone. It’s going to be eradicated. And it might take longer. It might be in smaller sections. It’ll be — it won’t be what we had. And we also learned a lot.
April 29, 2020

And I think we’re doing very well on the vaccines but, with or without a vaccine, it’s going to pass, and we’re going to be back to normal.
May 5, 2020

Because, you know, this virus is going to disappear. It’s a question of when. Will it come back in a small way? Will it come back in a fairly large way? But we know how to deal with it now much better. You know, nobody knew anything about it, initially. Now we know we can put out fires.
May 6, 2020

Well, I feel about vaccines like I feel about tests. This is going to go away without a vaccine. It’s going to go away, and it’s — we’re not going to see it again, hopefully, after a period of time. You may have some — some flare-ups and I guess, you know, I would expect that. Sometime in the fall, you’ll have flare-ups maybe. Maybe not. But according to what a lot of people say, you probably will. We’ll be able to put them out. You may have some flare-ups next year, but eventually, it’s going to be gone. I mean, it’s going to be gone.
May 8, 2020

We think we’re going to have a vaccine in the pretty near future. And if we do, we’re going to really be a big step ahead. And if we don’t, we’re going to be like so many other cases, where you had a problem come in, it’ll go away — at some point, it’ll go away. It may flare up, and it may not flare up. We’ll have to see what happens.
May 15, 2020

So I think that’s — but even without that [a vaccine or therapeutics], you know, at some point this stuff goes away and it’s going away.
June 15, 2020

I always say, even without it [a vaccine], it goes away.
June 16, 2020

if you look, the numbers are very minuscule compared to what it was. It’s dying out.
June 17, 2020

But I will tell you, we’re very close to a vaccine, and we’re very close to therapeutics, really good therapeutics. And — but even without that — I don’t even like to talk about that, because it’s fading away. It’s going to fade away.
June 17, 2020

And it is dying out. The numbers are starting to get very good.
June 18, 2020

And I think we are going to be very good with the coronavirus. I think that, at some point, that’s going to sort of just disappear, I hope.
July 1, 2020

I’ll be right eventually. I will be right eventually. You know I said, ‘It’s going to disappear.’ I’ll say it again. It’s going to disappear, and I’ll be right.
July 19, 2020

Well, the virus will disappear. It will disappear.
July 21, 2020

We’re gonna beat it, yeah. We’re going to beat it. And with time, you’re going to be it — time. You know, I say, it’s going to disappear. And they say, ‘Oh, that’s terrible.’ He said — well, it’s true. I mean, it’s going to disappear. Before it disappears, I think we can knock it out before it disappears.
July 22, 2020

This thing’s going away. It will go away like things go away…
August 5, 2020

It’s going away. No, it’ll go away like things go away. Absolutely. No question in my mind. It will go away. Hopefully sooner rather than later.
August 5, 2020

And we’re getting them [manufacturing jobs] even in a pandemic — which is disappearing; it’s going to disappear.
August 7, 2020

And frankly, you know, we’ve had a tremendous — a tremendous market, you and I have talked about that, the stock market. Think of it, we’re almost back to where we were, and we’re still in the pandemic, which will be going away, as I say, it’ll be going away. And they scream, how you can you say that? I said, because it’s gonna be going away.
August 15, 2020

And as soon as the plague is gone — we have vaccines coming, we have therapeutics coming, and it’s going to be gone. And it’s gonna be gone soon.
August 17, 2020

And the China Plague will fade.
August 17, 2020

It’s all coming back so fast and you’ll see it, and the pandemic goes away. The vaccines are going to be, I believe, announced very soon.
August 24, 2020

Well, once you get to a certain number — you know, we use the word herd, right. Once you get to a certain number, it’s going to go away.
August 31, 2020

It is gonna disappear. It’s gonna disappear. I still say it.
September 15, 2020

But it’s going to disappear. It is disappearing. And vaccines are going to help, and the therapeutics are going to help a lot.
October 10, 2020

The vaccine will end the pandemic. But it’s ending anyway. I mean, they go crazy when I say it. It’s going to peter out and it’s going to end. But we’re going to help the end and we’re gonna make it a lot faster with the vaccine and with the therapeutics and frankly with the cures.
October 15, 2020

Even without the vaccine, the pandemic’s going to end. It’s gonna run its course. It’s gonna end. They’ll go crazy. He said ‘without the vaccine’ — watch, it’ll be a headline tomorrow. These people are crazy. No, it’s running its course.
October 16, 2020

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1436109024676782082?s=20

Don't delude yourself in thinking that the socialists have your best interests in mind.

[Nathan89]

The numerous times trump lied in saying covid would disappear:



Whatabouttrump is an ineffective strategy to protect your authoritarian. Honestly, I'm not sure why you are trying.

[ducks]

"Joe Biden told Americans when he was elected that he would not impose vaccine mandates. He lied," McDaniel said in a statement. "Now small businesses, workers, and families across the country will pay the price."

"Like many Americans, I am pro-vaccine and anti-mandate," McDaniel added. "Many small businesses and workers do not have the money or legal resources to fight Biden’s unconstitutional actions and authoritarian decrees, but when his decree goes into effect, the RNC will sue the administration to protect Americans and their liberties

[Ef-man]

trump had an ineffective strategy and did not protect the American public. Honestly, I'm ashamed of his actions.

fify

[DarrinS]

We'd probably be in a great situation right now, if not for delta.


Can you imagine if China blocked international travel after realizing they leaked it from their shitty lab?

[ducks]

Biden plan for forced vaccinations doesn't include illegal immigrants
About 30% of illegal immigrants detained at the border refuse to be vaccinated

[Ef-man]

Trump lied about covid and the rubes believed him.

:lol

[DarrinS]

Trump lied about covid and the rubes believed him.

:lol

Joe's leg hair conquered the virus. C'mon man.

[Ef-man]

Joe's leg hair conquered the virus. C'mon man.

Same rubes that do not want to get vaccinated.

Stop fooling yourself it ain’t so.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/slammer68/status/1436103534991208500?s=20

Remember these people hate you and the more power you give to the government the more you harm yourself because they will use it against you.

[Ef-man]

https://twitter.com/slammer68/status/1436103534991208500?s=20

Remember these people hate you and the more power you give to the government the more you harm yourself because they will use it against you.

Yes, the good old Obama Death panels, who could forget?

[Thread]

https://twitter.com/slammer68/status/1436103534991208500?s=20

Remember these people hate you and the more power you give to the government the more you harm yourself because they will use it against you.

Tell it, Nathan.

Testify!!!

[ducks]

We'd probably be in a great situation right now, if not for delta.


Can you imagine if China blocked international travel after realizing they leaked it from their shitty lab?

Imagine the USA being out of debt after China pays this
Left Blame trump right blame Biden but it is all China

Imagine USA locking the boarders and not letting covid come in

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/CDCDirector/status/1421249671943569411?s=20

[ducks]

https://twitter.com/BuckSexton/status/1436096811933081601?s=20

[ducks]

https://twitter.com/BuckSexton/status/1435972810023882752?s=20

[ducks]

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1436109408531095559?s=20

[ducks]

In Biden's America, American citizens who make a personal medical decision that Joe disagrees with are talked down too, segregated from society & not allowed to provide for their families, but all of unvaccinated illegals coming across the border are welcomed with open arms!!!

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/townhallcom/status/1436078537648312322?s=20

Thanks for bringing us back to "normal" Biden voters.

[Thread]

In Biden's America, American citizens who make a personal medical decision that Joe disagrees with are talked down too, segregated from society & not allowed to provide for their families, but all of unvaccinated illegals coming across the border are welcomed with open arms!!!

Tell it, ducks.

Testify!!!

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1436163259334160385?s=20

Going forward this is how you should view democrats.

[SnakeBoy]

https://twitter.com/townhallcom/status/1436078537648312322?s=20

Thanks for bringing us back to "normal" Biden voters.

:lol Failing Joe Biden thinks playing politics is going to change what the winter has in store for him

[Winehole23]

GOP playing stout defense for SARS-CoV-2 against masking and vaccines in Kentucky


https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1436098188222533639/gBdzYPgn?format=jpg&name=900x900

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/covid-cdc-hospitalization-states-2.png

[Thread]

GOP playing stout defense for SARS-CoV-2 against masking and vaccines in Kentucky


https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1436098188222533639/gBdzYPgn?format=jpg&name=900x900

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/covid-cdc-hospitalization-states-2.png

Biden is holding the bag there, Winester. Biden is holding all the bags, sweetheart.

[RandomGuy]

https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1436163259334160385?s=20

Going forward this is how you should view democrats.

:lmao

You dumbasses are genociding yourselves. About four to eight times faster than Democrats. :rollin

At this point, I have stopped really caring too much, except for the fact that you asshats are crowding out people who don't have COVID from life saving medical care.

.. and you are costing the rest of us a lot of money subsidizing your healthcare. My insurance premiums are going to skyrocket.

So eat a giant dick, you selfish fuck.

[RandomGuy]

:lol Failing Joe Biden thinks playing politics is going to change what the winter has in store for him

:rolleyes


:cry Bidens not doing enough to stop COVID


:cry Biden's doing something to stop COVID

[hater]

:lmao the mandate is already dead on arrival :lol

https://twitter.com/MatthewDavidHa4/status/1436067132199116806?s=20

[spurraider21]

We would not be able to pass seat belt laws in today’s political climate

[Ef-man]

:lmao the mandate is already dead on arrival :lol

https://twitter.com/MatthewDavidHa4/status/1436067132199116806?s=20

Calling it now, federal government employees will be mandated to get vaccine!

[Thread]

Calling it now, federal government employees will be mandated to get vaccine!

We're gonna get it into the courts and see what happens.

[Nathan89]

We would not be able to pass seat belt laws in today’s political climate

The left thinks we should scrap the constitution and rewrite it in today's political climate.

[Ef-man]

Worth repeating for the slow rubes.


The numerous times trump lied in saying covid would disappear:

You know, a lot of people think that goes away in April with the heat — as the heat comes in. Typically, that will go away in April.
Feb 10, 2020

China is working very, very hard. I have spoken to President Xi, and they’re working very hard. And if you know anything about him, I think he’ll be in pretty good shape. They’re — they’ve had a rough patch, and I think right now they have it — it looks like they’re getting it under control more and more. They’re getting it more and more under control. So I think that’s a problem that’s going to go away.
Feb 25, 2020

…when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done.
Feb 26, 2020

It’s going to disappear. One day — it’s like a miracle — it will disappear. And from our shores, we — you know, it could get worse before it gets better. It could maybe go away. We’ll see what happens. Nobody really knows.
Feb 27, 2020

I don’t think people are panicking. I said last night — we did an interview on Fox last night, a town hall. I think it was very good. And I said, ‘Calm. You have to be calm.’ It’ll go away.
March 6, 2020

We’re prepared, and we’re doing a great job with it. And it will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away.
March 10, 2020

You know, we need a little a separation until such time as this goes away. It’s going to go away. It’s going to go away.
March 12, 2020

Stay calm. It will go away. You know it — you know it is going away, and it will go away. And we’re going to have a great victory.
March 30, 2020

It’s going to go away, hopefully at the end of the month. And, if not, hopefully it will be soon after that.
March 31, 2020

It is going to go away. It is going away.
April 3, 2020

It did go — it will go away.
April 7, 2020

But a lot of movement and a lot of progress has been made in a vaccine. But I think what happens is it’s going to go away. This is going to go away. And whether it comes back in a modified form in the fall, we’ll be able to handle it.
April 28, 2020

It’s going to go. It’s going to leave. It’s going to be gone. It’s going to be eradicated. And it might take longer. It might be in smaller sections. It’ll be — it won’t be what we had. And we also learned a lot.
April 29, 2020

And I think we’re doing very well on the vaccines but, with or without a vaccine, it’s going to pass, and we’re going to be back to normal.
May 5, 2020

Because, you know, this virus is going to disappear. It’s a question of when. Will it come back in a small way? Will it come back in a fairly large way? But we know how to deal with it now much better. You know, nobody knew anything about it, initially. Now we know we can put out fires.
May 6, 2020

Well, I feel about vaccines like I feel about tests. This is going to go away without a vaccine. It’s going to go away, and it’s — we’re not going to see it again, hopefully, after a period of time. You may have some — some flare-ups and I guess, you know, I would expect that. Sometime in the fall, you’ll have flare-ups maybe. Maybe not. But according to what a lot of people say, you probably will. We’ll be able to put them out. You may have some flare-ups next year, but eventually, it’s going to be gone. I mean, it’s going to be gone.
May 8, 2020

We think we’re going to have a vaccine in the pretty near future. And if we do, we’re going to really be a big step ahead. And if we don’t, we’re going to be like so many other cases, where you had a problem come in, it’ll go away — at some point, it’ll go away. It may flare up, and it may not flare up. We’ll have to see what happens.
May 15, 2020

So I think that’s — but even without that [a vaccine or therapeutics], you know, at some point this stuff goes away and it’s going away.
June 15, 2020

I always say, even without it [a vaccine], it goes away.
June 16, 2020

if you look, the numbers are very minuscule compared to what it was. It’s dying out.
June 17, 2020

But I will tell you, we’re very close to a vaccine, and we’re very close to therapeutics, really good therapeutics. And — but even without that — I don’t even like to talk about that, because it’s fading away. It’s going to fade away.
June 17, 2020

And it is dying out. The numbers are starting to get very good.
June 18, 2020

And I think we are going to be very good with the coronavirus. I think that, at some point, that’s going to sort of just disappear, I hope.
July 1, 2020

I’ll be right eventually. I will be right eventually. You know I said, ‘It’s going to disappear.’ I’ll say it again. It’s going to disappear, and I’ll be right.
July 19, 2020

Well, the virus will disappear. It will disappear.
July 21, 2020

We’re gonna beat it, yeah. We’re going to beat it. And with time, you’re going to be it — time. You know, I say, it’s going to disappear. And they say, ‘Oh, that’s terrible.’ He said — well, it’s true. I mean, it’s going to disappear. Before it disappears, I think we can knock it out before it disappears.
July 22, 2020

This thing’s going away. It will go away like things go away…
August 5, 2020

It’s going away. No, it’ll go away like things go away. Absolutely. No question in my mind. It will go away. Hopefully sooner rather than later.
August 5, 2020

And we’re getting them [manufacturing jobs] even in a pandemic — which is disappearing; it’s going to disappear.
August 7, 2020

And frankly, you know, we’ve had a tremendous — a tremendous market, you and I have talked about that, the stock market. Think of it, we’re almost back to where we were, and we’re still in the pandemic, which will be going away, as I say, it’ll be going away. And they scream, how you can you say that? I said, because it’s gonna be going away.
August 15, 2020

And as soon as the plague is gone — we have vaccines coming, we have therapeutics coming, and it’s going to be gone. And it’s gonna be gone soon.
August 17, 2020

And the China Plague will fade.
August 17, 2020

It’s all coming back so fast and you’ll see it, and the pandemic goes away. The vaccines are going to be, I believe, announced very soon.
August 24, 2020

Well, once you get to a certain number — you know, we use the word herd, right. Once you get to a certain number, it’s going to go away.
August 31, 2020

It is gonna disappear. It’s gonna disappear. I still say it.
September 15, 2020

But it’s going to disappear. It is disappearing. And vaccines are going to help, and the therapeutics are going to help a lot.
October 10, 2020

The vaccine will end the pandemic. But it’s ending anyway. I mean, they go crazy when I say it. It’s going to peter out and it’s going to end. But we’re going to help the end and we’re gonna make it a lot faster with the vaccine and with the therapeutics and frankly with the cures.
October 15, 2020

Even without the vaccine, the pandemic’s going to end. It’s gonna run its course. It’s gonna end. They’ll go crazy. He said ‘without the vaccine’ — watch, it’ll be a headline tomorrow. These people are crazy. No, it’s running its course.
October 16, 2020

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1436077575416258568?s=20

They need you to get angry at others instead of those making decisions that ruin the country.

[Thread]

Worth repeating for the slow rubes.


https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Ef-man (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10599633#post10599633)
The numerous times trump lied in saying covid would disappear:

You know, a lot of people think that goes away in April with the heat — as the heat comes in. Typically, that will go away in April.
Feb 10, 2020

China is working very, very hard. I have spoken to President Xi, and they’re working very hard. And if you know anything about him, I think he’ll be in pretty good shape. They’re — they’ve had a rough patch, and I think right now they have it — it looks like they’re getting it under control more and more. They’re getting it more and more under control. So I think that’s a problem that’s going to go away.
Feb 25, 2020

…when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done.
Feb 26, 2020

It’s going to disappear. One day — it’s like a miracle — it will disappear. And from our shores, we — you know, it could get worse before it gets better. It could maybe go away. We’ll see what happens. Nobody really knows.
Feb 27, 2020

I don’t think people are panicking. I said last night — we did an interview on Fox last night, a town hall. I think it was very good. And I said, ‘Calm. You have to be calm.’ It’ll go away.
March 6, 2020

We’re prepared, and we’re doing a great job with it. And it will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away.
March 10, 2020

You know, we need a little a separation until such time as this goes away. It’s going to go away. It’s going to go away.
March 12, 2020

Stay calm. It will go away. You know it — you know it is going away, and it will go away. And we’re going to have a great victory.
March 30, 2020

It’s going to go away, hopefully at the end of the month. And, if not, hopefully it will be soon after that.
March 31, 2020

It is going to go away. It is going away.
April 3, 2020

It did go — it will go away.
April 7, 2020

But a lot of movement and a lot of progress has been made in a vaccine. But I think what happens is it’s going to go away. This is going to go away. And whether it comes back in a modified form in the fall, we’ll be able to handle it.
April 28, 2020

It’s going to go. It’s going to leave. It’s going to be gone. It’s going to be eradicated. And it might take longer. It might be in smaller sections. It’ll be — it won’t be what we had. And we also learned a lot.
April 29, 2020

And I think we’re doing very well on the vaccines but, with or without a vaccine, it’s going to pass, and we’re going to be back to normal.
May 5, 2020

Because, you know, this virus is going to disappear. It’s a question of when. Will it come back in a small way? Will it come back in a fairly large way? But we know how to deal with it now much better. You know, nobody knew anything about it, initially. Now we know we can put out fires.
May 6, 2020

Well, I feel about vaccines like I feel about tests. This is going to go away without a vaccine. It’s going to go away, and it’s — we’re not going to see it again, hopefully, after a period of time. You may have some — some flare-ups and I guess, you know, I would expect that. Sometime in the fall, you’ll have flare-ups maybe. Maybe not. But according to what a lot of people say, you probably will. We’ll be able to put them out. You may have some flare-ups next year, but eventually, it’s going to be gone. I mean, it’s going to be gone.
May 8, 2020

We think we’re going to have a vaccine in the pretty near future. And if we do, we’re going to really be a big step ahead. And if we don’t, we’re going to be like so many other cases, where you had a problem come in, it’ll go away — at some point, it’ll go away. It may flare up, and it may not flare up. We’ll have to see what happens.
May 15, 2020

So I think that’s — but even without that [a vaccine or therapeutics], you know, at some point this stuff goes away and it’s going away.
June 15, 2020

I always say, even without it [a vaccine], it goes away.
June 16, 2020

if you look, the numbers are very minuscule compared to what it was. It’s dying out.
June 17, 2020

But I will tell you, we’re very close to a vaccine, and we’re very close to therapeutics, really good therapeutics. And — but even without that — I don’t even like to talk about that, because it’s fading away. It’s going to fade away.
June 17, 2020

And it is dying out. The numbers are starting to get very good.
June 18, 2020

And I think we are going to be very good with the coronavirus. I think that, at some point, that’s going to sort of just disappear, I hope.
July 1, 2020

I’ll be right eventually. I will be right eventually. You know I said, ‘It’s going to disappear.’ I’ll say it again. It’s going to disappear, and I’ll be right.
July 19, 2020

Well, the virus will disappear. It will disappear.
July 21, 2020

We’re gonna beat it, yeah. We’re going to beat it. And with time, you’re going to be it — time. You know, I say, it’s going to disappear. And they say, ‘Oh, that’s terrible.’ He said — well, it’s true. I mean, it’s going to disappear. Before it disappears, I think we can knock it out before it disappears.
July 22, 2020

This thing’s going away. It will go away like things go away…
August 5, 2020

It’s going away. No, it’ll go away like things go away. Absolutely. No question in my mind. It will go away. Hopefully sooner rather than later.
August 5, 2020

And we’re getting them [manufacturing jobs] even in a pandemic — which is disappearing; it’s going to disappear.
August 7, 2020

And frankly, you know, we’ve had a tremendous — a tremendous market, you and I have talked about that, the stock market. Think of it, we’re almost back to where we were, and we’re still in the pandemic, which will be going away, as I say, it’ll be going away. And they scream, how you can you say that? I said, because it’s gonna be going away.
August 15, 2020

And as soon as the plague is gone — we have vaccines coming, we have therapeutics coming, and it’s going to be gone. And it’s gonna be gone soon.
August 17, 2020

And the China Plague will fade.
August 17, 2020

It’s all coming back so fast and you’ll see it, and the pandemic goes away. The vaccines are going to be, I believe, announced very soon.
August 24, 2020

Well, once you get to a certain number — you know, we use the word herd, right. Once you get to a certain number, it’s going to go away.
August 31, 2020

It is gonna disappear. It’s gonna disappear. I still say it.
September 15, 2020

But it’s going to disappear. It is disappearing. And vaccines are going to help, and the therapeutics are going to help a lot.
October 10, 2020

The vaccine will end the pandemic. But it’s ending anyway. I mean, they go crazy when I say it. It’s going to peter out and it’s going to end. But we’re going to help the end and we’re gonna make it a lot faster with the vaccine and with the therapeutics and frankly with the cures.
October 15, 2020

Even without the vaccine, the pandemic’s going to end. It’s gonna run its course. It’s gonna end. They’ll go crazy. He said ‘without the vaccine’ — watch, it’ll be a headline tomorrow. These people are crazy. No, it’s running its course.
October 16, 2020

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Trump: 400k
Biden: 250k and counting, son.

tee, hee.

[pgardn]

In Biden's America, American citizens who make a personal medical decision that Joe disagrees with are talked down too, segregated from society & not allowed to provide for their families, but all of unvaccinated illegals coming across the border are welcomed with open arms!!!

So abortion is not a personal medical decision. Its under the purview of the government.

Thanks ducks.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1436311480559935493?s=20

Mainstream leftistism is authoritarianism. Yes, they use similar logic when attacking gun rights. That's why you should pay attention to their logic and not the momentary lies coming out of their mouth.

[hater]

Calling it now, federal government employees will be mandated to get vaccine!

Thats fine imo. They can always contract remotely. (And charge more $ :lol)

But not private sector. Mandate is kaput :tu


Good day for freedom :tu

[Ef-man]

So abortion is not a personal medical decision. Its under the purview of the government.

Thanks ducks.

Gaythan should heed your comment but he will ignore it as it does not support his narrative.

[baseline bum]

Trumptards calling anyone else authoritarians is rich :lmao

[Ef-man]

Thats fine imo. They can always contract remotely. (And charge more $ :lol)

But not private sector. Mandate is kaput :tu


Good day for freedom :tu

It will include contractors working for US government too.

Joe should ensure that those getting government welfare checks, government food stamps, government healthcare should also get vaccinated as part of deal.

You suck on government tit, you get the shot.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1436311480559935493?s=20

Mainstream leftistism is authoritarianism. Yes, they use similar logic when attacking gun rights. That's why you should pay attention to their logic and not the momentary lies coming out of their mouth.

https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1436309269767409666?s=20

The authoritarians gave us options. How kind of them. To put this in perspective these are the same people that think getting off your ass to go vote every 4 years with an ID or requesting the ballot is too demanding. Of course they are lying and just trying to reach low information voters.

[Nathan89]

Authoritarians being called authoritarian:madrun

[pgardn]

https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1436309269767409666?s=20

The authoritarians gave us options. How kind of them. To put this in perspective these are the same people that think getting off your ass to go vote every 4 years with an ID or requesting the ballot is too demanding. Of course they are lying and just trying to reach low information voters.

And abortion is...
Yeah.
You and the rest and your whale sized contradictions.
Elephant sized hypocrites but getting bigger with every decree.

[hater]

It will include contractors working for US government too.

Joe should ensure that those getting government welfare checks, government food stamps, government healthcare should also get vaccinated as part of deal.

You suck on government tit, you get the shot.

Not remote ones which are... all of them now :lol

Well if it does then they can go work in private sector :lol

I have no problem with Fed having that rule. :tu I never liked working dor them anyway :lol

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1436157799852032002?s=20

States, companies, and people need to stand against the authoritarian left.

[hater]

https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1436157799852032002?s=20

States, companies, and people need to stand against the authoritarian left.

USA! USA! USA!

:tu

[Winehole23]

We would not be able to pass seat belt laws in today’s political climate

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-3FcikVIBQFUvj?format=jpg&name=small

[hater]

Actually I really really doubt Fed can enforce contractors are vaxed. They cant even enforce qualified contractors are in their projects :lol

Remember there are contracts. Unless its stipulated in the contract. There is absolutely nothing they can do especially if contractors dont sniff federal.buildings.

They can ask for this requirement for new contracts only.

[Winehole23]

Authoritarians being called authoritarian:madrunElections have consequences. Sometimes it involves the majority party using the political power awarded to it by the people. :cry

[hater]

One interesting thing is those Uber drivers. They keep.their freedom as Uber especifically states they are NOT.their.employees :lol

Itll be interesting to see Uber policy.on vaccines. Id say they will be against Dear Leader mandate for that exact reason. They are legally not have.drivers as employees :lmao

[hater]

Im going to go ahead and say the loophole for this is contractors.

If your employer asks for vaccine you can negotiate.to become a contractor. Case solved.:tu

Freedom :tu

[Adam Lambert]

Incel Nathan's got another pesky boner.

[hater]

Called it :wow

https://twitter.com/kcelev8/status/1436131634240180227?s=19


:lol Dear Leader

[Adam Lambert]

That seems a lot more complicated than just getting a free vaccine.

[Winehole23]

lol hater awarding himself gold stars for "calling it"

he's got a lot of turds to cover in that litter box.

[hater]

Caed it :tu

:lol.De:lolr Le:lolder :lol

https://twitter.com/theLouisianaMan/status/1436004807563792389?s=19


USA! USA! USA!

[Winehole23]

#WWMMCLVII

[Adam Lambert]

I've always said I think private businesses should be able to decide their own vaccine policies, and that goes both ways. So I don't like it.

If you're going to mandate the vaccine, mandate the vaccine. Don't put the onus on businesses.

I would rather see this done through pressure in other areas - Higher premiums, hospital access restrictions, vaccine requirements for large events, etc. This feels like a half-assed and passive approach.

[SpursforSix]

Im going to go ahead and say the loophole for this is contractors.

If your employer asks for vaccine you can negotiate.to become a contractor. Case solved.:tu

Freedom :tu

It's not that easy. There are guidlines as to who qualifies as an employee or contractor. I think these are IRS rules and I don't think the majority can just move from empolyee to contractor.
But regardless even if they could, I think any benefits are gone at that point. No health insurance, no retirement benefits, etc.

[hater]

I've always said I think private businesses should be able to decide their own vaccine policies, and that goes both ways. So I don't like it.

If you're going to mandate the vaccine, mandate the vaccine. Don't put the onus on businesses.

I would rather see this done through pressure in other areas - Higher premiums, hospital access restrictions, vaccine requirements for large events, etc. This feels like a half-assed and passive approach.

Agreed.

Also.whats up.with that 100 number? Is that following the science??. :lmao

Probably Dear Leader was told to stop 100 employees as 8f he went further.it.would have been a full on rebellion

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1436311480559935493?s=20

Mainstream leftistism is authoritarianism. Yes, they use similar logic when attacking gun rights. That's why you should pay attention to their logic and not the momentary lies coming out of their mouth.
Tim Pool with a good argument to legalize drunk driving

[hater]

It's not that easy. There are guidlines as to who qualifies as an employee or contractor. I think these are IRS rules and I don't think the majority can just move from empolyee to contractor.
But regardless even if they could, I think any benefits are gone at that point. No health insurance, no retirement benefits, etc.

Going to 1099 from full time happens all the time. Both parties.have to agree.of course.but this happens.daily

[pgardn]

Im going to go ahead and say the loophole for this is contractors.

If your employer asks for vaccine you can negotiate.to become a contractor. Case solved.:tu

Freedom :tu

You can ask an uber driver for his/her vaccination info AND to be masked.
If not. Another is close by. btw on my app, they ask YOU to have a mask on.

[Adam Lambert]

Tim Pool with a good argument to legalize drunk driving

Nathan and Tim Pool are such fucking nutjobs that even when they're arguably on the right side of the argument they find a way to be wrong.

[hater]

You can ask an uber driver for his/her vaccination info AND to be masked.
If not. Another is close by. btw on my app, they ask YOU to have a mask on.

Yeah the uber driver is required to disclose it? What if he says yes and hes not? :lol

[Adam Lambert]

And the "getting a voter ID is easy" crowd should probably sit out of a bitchfest about having to get a free vaccine.

[hater]

Got Damn 30,000 posts thread :wow

[Nathan89]

And the "getting a voter ID is easy" crowd should probably sit out of a bitchfest about having to get a free vaccine.

Nobody is saying getting a vaccine is difficult. I mean maybe the democrats don't think minorities are capable but I haven't seen that commentary yet.

[Nathan89]

I've always said I think private businesses should be able to decide their own vaccine policies, and that goes both ways. So I don't like it.

If you're going to mandate the vaccine, mandate the vaccine. Don't put the onus on businesses.

I would rather see this done through pressure in other areas - Higher premiums, hospital access restrictions, vaccine requirements for large events, etc. This feels like a half-assed and passive approach.

What kind of hospital access restrictions did you have in mind?

[Thread]

What kind of hospital access restrictions did you have in mind?

Homasexuals only.

[Adam Lambert]

Nobody is saying getting a vaccine is difficult.

You've been throwing tantrums about it like a child being asked to finish his vegetables.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/ginacarano/status/1436093012522651648?s=20

[ElNono]

So once again just to be sure you're laughing at him for *checks notes* doing the right thing?

The irony is thick as hell... :lol

[Adam Lambert]

What kind of hospital access restrictions did you have in mind?

A good start would be that hospitals are required to leave a certain % of their ICU beds open for non-COVID emergencies, with exceptions made for COVID emergencies involving a vaccinated person.

Generally I'm all for the rights of the unvaccinated to kill themselves and each other, but steps need to be taken to prevent them from exhausting all of the resources from others.

[SpursforSix]

Going to 1099 from full time happens all the time. Both parties.have to agree.of course.but this happens.daily

Not for companies with 100+ employees. Which I thought was the discussion here.

[Winehole23]

A good start would be that hospitals are required to leave a certain % of their ICU beds open for non-COVID emergencies, with exceptions made for COVID emergencies involving a vaccinated person.

Generally I'm all for the rights of the unvaccinated to kill themselves and each other, but steps need to be taken to prevent them from exhausting all of the resources from others.probably already happening in places like Idaho, Hawaii and OK that have declared crisis standards of care.

a number of other states are getting close to that threshold.

[ElNono]

We would not be able to pass seat belt laws in today’s political climate

Muh freedumb tho!

[ElNono]

Trumptards calling anyone else authoritarians is rich :lmao

:lmao

[hater]

Not for companies with 100+ employees. Which I thought was the discussion here.

Sure it does. All the time. Why not?

[ElNono]

I've always said I think private businesses should be able to decide their own vaccine policies, and that goes both ways. So I don't like it.

If you're going to mandate the vaccine, mandate the vaccine. Don't put the onus on businesses.

I would rather see this done through pressure in other areas - Higher premiums, hospital access restrictions, vaccine requirements for large events, etc. This feels like a half-assed and passive approach.

You can fix 90% of this problem by requiring vaccination proof before collecting federal benefits, tbh...

[Adam Lambert]

Sure it does. All the time. Why not?

Imagine being so scared of the vaccine that you give up your company health benefits.

[ElNono]

Imagine being so scared of the vaccine that you give up your company health benefits.

During a pandemic too... then again, we're not talking about very bright people here...

[hater]

Imagine being so scared of the vaccine that you give up your company health benefits.

Contractors.can buy and usually afford their.own as their rate is higher. So theyntechnically not lose it, just replace. But sure some ppl might not want to. Freedom :tu

[hater]

During a pandemic too... then again, we're not talking about very bright people here...

:lol u scared of covid and are vaccinated?


Holy shit :lol

[DMC]

You can fix 90% of this problem by requiring vaccination proof before collecting federal benefits, tbh...

Or welfare...

[Adam Lambert]

Contractors.can buy and usually afford their.own as their rate is higher. So theyntechnically not lose it, just replace. But sure some ppl might not want to. Freedom :tu

So you think companies are going to convert W2 employees to 1099 contractors AND give them a raise? :lol

[hater]

Or welfare...

Or for voting...

[DMC]

Or for voting...

Or getting a drivers license

[hater]

So you think companies are going to convert W2 employees to 1099 contractors AND give them a raise? :lol

Not a raise. Contractor rate is higher thats the market price as they save on benefits. Again both parties have to agree. Noone is saying 100% peep can do this.

[hater]

Or getting a drivers license

Or entering the country illegally...

[hater]

Or to get an abortion :lol

[DMC]

Or to order anything from Amazon

[hater]

Or to order anything from Amazon

Or to protest at BLM rallies

[spurraider21]

https://img.nbc.com/sites/nbcunbc/files/images/2015/2/09/150209_2845605_TV_Funhouse__Ambiguously_Gay_Duo___ Don_We_No.jpg

[Adam Lambert]

Not a raise. Contractor rate is higher thats the market price as they save on benefits. Again both parties have to agree. Noone is saying 100% peep can do this.

I mean yeah contractor rates are higher if you're looking to hire a contractor... most companies aren't going to convert a W2 employee to a contractor at that kind of rate increase though.

[Adam Lambert]

You can fix 90% of this problem by requiring vaccination proof before collecting federal benefits, tbh...


Or welfare...


Or for voting...

El Nono: We should vaccinate quadrilaterals.

DMC: And squares too!

hater: And hot dogs!

[hater]

I mean yeah contractor rates are higher if you're looking to hire a contractor... most companies aren't going to convert a W2 employee to a contractor at that kind of rate increase though.


Sure they would.

If the worker is skilled and a good worker. Sure they are. Do you know how hard it is to find good skilled workers and the work it takes to train them?

[Adam Lambert]

Sure they would.

If the worker is skilled and a good worker. Sure they are. Do you know how hard it is to find good skilled workers and the work it takes to train them?

Do you understand how payroll and budgets work at companies of 100+ people?

You know what's not hard? Getting a vaccine.

[Adam Lambert]

That's without even considering the optics to the rest of your employees if you reward a stubborn anti-vaxxer by coddling their selfishness and giving them a raise.

[Winehole23]

"Universal DNR for cardiac arrest"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-ulhOZUYAIY7Fi?format=jpg&name=large

[Winehole23]

piority scoring for comorbidities and disabilities

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-ulhOaUcAUxeIP?format=jpg&name=large

[hater]

Do you understand how payroll and budgets work at companies of 100+ people?

You know what's not hard? Getting a vaccine.

Sure

Ive worked at large companies. If you are skilled and.good they will.do a lot to keep you. Including you going 1099. Seen it a lot. :tu

Look at job.postings now. A lot of them say "work from home" why? Because their surveys say a lot of ppl love that. They have no problem w that (especially for skilled positions) they.also.have no problem w 1099ing

[SpursforSix]

Contractors.can buy and usually afford their.own as their rate is higher. So theyntechnically not lose it, just replace. But sure some ppl might not want to. Freedom :tu

Contractors may get higher rates in general. But those are contractors who often have more desirable skills than standard employees. In your scenario, you're talking about traditional employees who are so valuable that the company is going to give them the option to covert to contractor AND pay them more? Not to mention the headache of traditional employees understanding that they have to be accountable for their share of taxes. And the company potentially having two large groups of people doing the same job and having to pay them separately?

[hater]

Not to mention I believe you can opt out and do weekly testing? LoL

Why would you weekly test if you work remotely?

the more I think about this "mandate" the more I see it as a political nothingburger :lmao

[SpursforSix]

That's without even considering the optics to the rest of your employees if you reward a stubborn anti-vaxxer by coddling their selfishness and giving them a raise.

Can you imagine being a Wal-Mart stock boy and demanding to management that they change you to a contract basis?

[hater]

Can you imagine being a Wal-Mart stock boy and demanding to management that they change you to a contract basis?

I said skilled. Thats not skilled. These ppeps will do weekly testing.

Or If those ppl really want to avoid vax the6 can uber eats while doing some technical training.

Problem solved :tu

[Adam Lambert]

Contractors may get higher rates in general. But those are contractors who often have more desirable skills than standard employees. In your scenario, you're talking about traditional employees who are so valuable that the company is going to give them the option to covert to contractor AND pay them more? Not to mention the headache of traditional employees understanding that they have to be accountable for their share of taxes. And the company potentially having two large groups of people doing the same job and having to pay them separately?

SO much easier than just getting a free vaccine!

[ElNono]

:lol u scared of covid and are vaccinated?

Holy shit :lol

You don't have to be 'scared' of anything to do the right thing. This is like having a tempest in a teapot over wearing a mask in public.

[Adam Lambert]

Anyway I can't imagine the Venn Diagram of "so skilled at their job that their employer will convert them to 1099 contractor at a higher pay rate if they ask" and "refuses to get vaccinated against COVID" has a lot of crossover.

[ElNono]

Or welfare...

yup, that's one of the items that fall into federal benefits...

[boutons_deux]

4-year-old girl dies from COVID-19 hours after developing symptoms -- now mom regrets being anti-vaxx


https://www.rawstory.com/media-library/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpbWFnZSI6I mh0dHBzOi8vYXNzZXRzLnJibC5tcy8yNzQxOTU1NC9vcmlnaW4 ucG5nIiwiZXhwaXJlc19hdCI6MTY0Mzc4ODE3MH0.3R3bkLQN7 9KLCXY9Qf48EDnK9uZJZCXftBz2kyH_q6k/image.png?width=1200&height=675

https://www.rawstory.com/kali-cook/

[ElNono]

I mean yeah contractor rates are higher if you're looking to hire a contractor... most companies aren't going to convert a W2 employee to a contractor at that kind of rate increase though.

It's true that conversion might not be worth it, but some companies will control headcount by subcontracting. This is actually very common, especially on tech.

[ElNono]

That's without even considering the optics to the rest of your employees if you reward a stubborn anti-vaxxer by coddling their selfishness and giving them a raise.

I mean, the reality too is that if you're a subcontractor working for a Fortune 500 company, you don't really have leverage.

If the company says it won't do business with unvaccinated people, it's actually very cheap for the company to drop a subcontractor off.

There's no labor law issues, there's no compensation required, so mandating this on contractors is very easy for a large company.

[Adam Lambert]

It's true that conversion might not be worth it, but some companies will control headcount by subcontracting. This is actually very common, especially on tech.

Right. I can definitely see companies vying for a loophole like that, but my point is the individual probably doesn't have a great shot at this approach.

[Winehole23]

a lot of companies will like the mandate. compliance will protect them from COVID liability.

[DMC]

I mean, the reality too is that if you're a subcontractor working for a Fortune 500 company, you don't really have leverage.

If the company says it won't do business with unvaccinated people, it's actually very cheap for the company to drop a subcontractor off.

There's no labor law issues, there's no compensation required, so mandating this on contractors is very easy for a large company.
This already happens

[DMC]

a lot of companies will like the mandate. compliance will protect them from COVID liability.

A lot of savvy companies will try to get out ahead of it. Imagine the cost in manpower to suddenly have this looming over your productivity. Just the threat of it will lead to a lot of pressure to vaccinate.

[Winehole23]

Texas and Cali diverge

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/covid-top-ten-regions-1.png

[Winehole23]

Florida only reports weekly and changes reporting rules on the fly.

Unreliable.

[hater]

You don't have to be 'scared' of anything to do the right thing. This is like having a tempest in a teapot over wearing a mask in public.

Doing the right thing is your opinion tbqh. Like abortion..

Im vaxed so I agree w u. But I dont see a problem w other peeps disagreeing w us :tu

Freedom :tu

[ElNono]

Doing the right thing is your opinion tbqh. Like abortion..

Im vaxed so I agree w u. But I dont see a problem w other peeps disagreeing w us :tu

Freedom :tu

We're way past any argument that contradicts vaccines being overwhelmingly effective at tangibly reducing death, hospitalization, time to recovery, etc from this disease.

That's not an opinion, it's supported by reality. It might be more or less effective on different people and virus variants, but vis a vis completely unvaccinated people in the grand scheme, there's no comparison.

In that context, and with very few exceptions, 'doing the right thing' can be summed up as being a responsible member of society.

I don't have a problem with people disagreeing either, up until that disagreement turns into a drag in the same society I live in, and starts to affect me directly. At that point giving a pass/ignoring it isn't an option anymore.

[Thread]

We're way past any argument that contradicts vaccines being overwhelmingly effective at tangibly reducing death, hospitalization, time to recovery, etc from this disease.

That's not an opinion, it's supported by reality. It might be more or less effective on different people and virus variants, but vis a vis completely unvaccinated people in the grand scheme, there's no comparison.

In that context, and with very few exceptions, 'doing the right thing' can be summed up as being a responsible member of society.

I don't have a problem with people disagreeing either, up until that disagreement turns into a drag in the same society I live in, and starts to affect me directly. At that point giving a pass/ignoring it isn't an option anymore.

Just gotta hope we stand fast in the ranks. We've been intractable to this point. It's like in -Zulu-...now we must build our triple redoubt and make our stand.

It's like -Assault on Precinct 13- the old one. This is now a blooded feud. We have to hold 'em off, take 'em one at-a-time as they come over the wire.

It's like Bowie -The Alamo- the new one...they prop him up in that bed, set a single shot in each hand, he cock's em...with his namesake close.

It's like -Drums Along the Mohawk- when they fort up, set the cannon just inside the front gate, and load it with powder and nails, what not. Then raise up the board holding the gate shut and move out of the way. KABOOM!!! Blasts hair all over creation.

It's like -The Searchers- when The Duke catches up to Scar and scalps that red fuck.

It's like in -Red Dawn- the old one when Harry Dean gathers his son's close and implores them such:::


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ooy0GFMYafY

[Adam Lambert]

"Hey man, it's cool, I don't drink and drive, and you do... These are equally valid viewpoints so we can just agree to disagree."

[hater]

We're way past any argument that contradicts vaccines being overwhelmingly effective at tangibly reducing death, hospitalization, time to recovery, etc from this disease.

That's not an opinion, it's supported by reality. It might be more or less effective on different people and virus variants, but vis a vis completely unvaccinated people in the grand scheme, there's no comparison.

In that context, and with very few exceptions, 'doing the right thing' can be summed up as being a responsible member of society.

I don't have a problem with people disagreeing either, up until that disagreement turns into a drag in the same society I live in, and starts to affect me directly. At that point giving a pass/ignoring it isn't an option anymore.

Over eating, drinking, doing drugs, smoking, fighting, speed racing, all are high risk activities that can be a drag
for societys health.tbqh

Freedom lets us make choices :tu

Freedom :tu

[ElNono]

Over eating, drinking, doing drugs, smoking, fighting, speed racing, all are high risk activities that can be a drag for societys health.tbqh

Freedom lets us make choices :tu

Freedom :tu

We don't shut down society for any of those, and we certainly have laws and mandates to regulate drinking, smoking, drug use and fighting...

[baseline bum]

Over eating, drinking, doing drugs, smoking, fighting, speed racing, all are high risk activities that can be a drag
for societys health.tbqh

Freedom lets us make choices :tu

Freedom :tu

I didn't realize obesity could be transmitted via aerosols. Better watch out in Florida, son.

[Nathan89]

A good start would be that hospitals are required to leave a certain % of their ICU beds open for non-COVID emergencies, with exceptions made for COVID emergencies involving a vaccinated person.

Generally I'm all for the rights of the unvaccinated to kill themselves and each other, but steps need to be taken to prevent them from exhausting all of the resources from others.

Healthcare is a human right to many on the left but here you are trying to withhold Healthcare.

Who are we saving the hospital beds for? Only people that made optimal health based decisions and ended up needing to go?

[Nathan89]

with exceptions made for COVID emergencies involving a vaccinated person.



And if the numbers say obese people with the vaccine take up more beds shall we kick them to the curb for making irresponsible health related decisions?

[Nathan89]

The authoritarian left wants the government to control health care and if you don't live according to their wishes they want to restrict your access to health care.

[Adam Lambert]

Healthcare is a human right to many on the left but here you are trying to withhold Healthcare.

Who are we saving the hospital beds for? Only people that made optimal health based decisions and ended up needing to go?

I don't care what "many on the left" think, you asked me. And health care is not a right for most people on the Right, so what's your objection? Are you a Bernie socialist again on this one issue?

We'd be saving hospital beds for people who are not actively endangering others by refusing a free vaccine that could prevent them from making other people sick.

[Adam Lambert]

And if the numbers say obese people with the vaccine take up more beds shall we kick them to the curb for making irresponsible health related decisions?

Nope.

[Adam Lambert]

The authoritarian left wants the government to control health care and if you don't live according to their wishes they want to restrict your access to health care.

You don't think healthcare is a right until it affects you.

Just get the vaccine, pussy.

[Nathan89]

The authoritarian logic is prevalent in those fighting to take away gun rights to banning vape flavors. People remain silent and a culture of authoritarians grows.

[Nathan89]

Nope.

Would you give a hospital bed to a vaccinated illegal or an unvaccinated American?

[Nathan89]

Nope.

Seems you are mostly concerned with withholding health care from those you might not be politically aligned with tbh

[RandomGuy]

Seems you are mostly concerned with withholding health care from those you might not be politically aligned with tbh

Says the party that wants to ban abortions.

Eat a dick, you hypocritical, cowardly shit.

[RandomGuy]

The authoritarian left wants the government to control health care and if you don't live according to their wishes they want to restrict your access to health care.

Why should I subsidize your shitty life choices?

[DMC]

Florida only reports weekly and changes reporting rules on the fly.

Unreliable.

But China on the other hand, they have it under control. If we could only be like China.

[Adam Lambert]

Seems you are mostly concerned with withholding health care from those you might not be politically aligned with tbh

I assure you there are plenty of fatasses with whom I'm not politically aligned. Vaccines aren't a political issue, they're a public health issue.

[Adam Lambert]

Would you give a hospital bed to a vaccinated illegal or an unvaccinated American?

Vaccinated illegal, 100%.

This is still the Land of Opportunity, and I'm a proud American.