View Full Version : Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions
tholdren
10-28-2020, 09:11 PM
Bwahhaahahhahhahahagahahahah
TimDunkem said it was dangerous for all. He said it was 10.times more dangerous than the flu.
Beahahhahahahshshshhshs
Lower ifr. So now he's grammar popo
Bwahahahahahayzyzyzzyhahayahazhz
TimDunkem tries to pretend he ignores lololIoooo
pgardn
10-28-2020, 09:12 PM
https://www.statnews.com/2020/10/21/covid19-winter-dry-indoor-air-helps-coronavirus-spread/
This is NOT good.
But A good reminder for me
“Unfortunately, 10 months into the pandemic, public health agencies are still reluctant to acknowledge airborne transmission, let alone question the six-foot rule. Official guidelines still focus on large-drop transmission in coughs and sneezes, where six feet is an arbitrary distance for those droplets to settle to the floor,” Bazant said. “Aerosol transmission was previously implicated in the spread of SARS and measles with less evidence than we have now for Covid-19, so I am hopeful that change will come soon, as the scientific consensus grows.”
DarrinS
10-28-2020, 09:14 PM
https://www.statnews.com/2020/10/21/covid19-winter-dry-indoor-air-helps-coronavirus-spread/
This is NOT good.
But A good reminder for me.
Yep
TimDunkem
10-28-2020, 09:15 PM
V right next the B. Got him.
The bar for him is very low and he still can't clear it.
tholdren
10-28-2020, 09:24 PM
https://www.statnews.com/2020/10/21/covid19-winter-dry-indoor-air-helps-coronavirus-spread/
This is NOT good.
But A good reminder for me
“Unfortunately, 10 months into the pandemic, public health agencies are still reluctant to acknowledge airborne transmission, let alone question the six-foot rule. Official guidelines still focus on large-drop transmission in coughs and sneezes, where six feet is an arbitrary distance for those droplets to settle to the floor,” Bazant said. “Aerosol transmission was previously implicated in the spread of SARS and measles with less evidence than we have now for Covid-19, so I am hopeful that change will come soon, as the scientific consensus grows.”
Does not matter. Sample after sample has proven
No one healthy dying
Masks dont work
Everything else just noise
ElNono
10-28-2020, 09:28 PM
^ gossip
Winehole23
10-28-2020, 11:02 PM
Taiwan contained COVID-19.
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SnakeBoy
10-28-2020, 11:12 PM
Taiwan contained COVID-19.
1321648293164863489
Taiwan did not listen to the experts
https://time.com/5826025/taiwan-who-trump-coronavirus-covid19/
Also it's good to be an island in a pandemic
pgardn
10-28-2020, 11:13 PM
Taiwan contained COVID-19.
1321648293164863489
Masks, temp checks, cohesion of purpose during a worldwide pandemic?
Give me liberty dammit. And then I’ll take chaos as an after dinner drink.
All I saw was socialism leading to communism.
Betcha their 401ks are struggling...
They are all struggling with CO2 poisoning
pgardn
10-28-2020, 11:14 PM
Taiwan did not listen to the experts
https://time.com/5826025/taiwan-who-trump-coronavirus-covid19/
Also it's good to be an island in a pandemic
Like Hawaii.
Winehole23
10-28-2020, 11:20 PM
Taiwan did not listen to the experts
https://time.com/5826025/taiwan-who-trump-coronavirus-covid19/
Also it's good to be an island in a pandemicTaiwan didn't believe WHO when it was saying "no person to person trransmission." Otherwise, it did all the things the experts recommend: masking, social distancing, rapid testing, robust social tracing and quarantine for positive cases and new arrivals.
We can't be Taiwan, but we could be a damn sight better if we gave a damn. Not having a national strategy for COVID-19 seven to eight months after the outbreak is worse than rank incompetence, it's callous indifference to human life.
pgardn
10-28-2020, 11:30 PM
Taiwan didn't believe WHO when it was saying "no person to person trransmission." Otherwise, it did all the things the experts recommend: masking, social distancing, rapid testing, robust social tracing and quarantine for positive cases and new arrivals.
We can't be Taiwan, but we could be a damn sight better if we gave a damn. Not having a national strategy for COVID-19 seven to eight months after the outbreak is worse than rank incompetence, it's callous indifference to human life.
Cohesion of purpose.
This does not happen under leaders who thrive on creating divisions.
Winehole23
10-28-2020, 11:36 PM
Cohesion of purpose.
This does not happen under leaders who thrive on creating divisions.Create hate and division -- over a pandemic -- and exploit the chaos for graft and power. Sounds plausible.
Winehole23
10-29-2020, 02:08 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElE7EHeVgAAq8rm?format=jpg&name=900x900
hater
10-29-2020, 02:31 AM
Taiwan did not listen to the experts
https://time.com/5826025/taiwan-who-trump-coronavirus-covid19/
Also it's good to be an island in a pandemic
Except china contanied it and they aint an island :lol
boutons_deux
10-29-2020, 11:55 AM
Kansas organization launches website aimed at
using flashmobs to expose others to COVID
https://images.dailykos.com/images/875277/large/Unmasktogether.png?1603896927https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/10/28/1990315/-Kansas-organization-launches-website-aimed-at-using-flashmobs-to-expose-others-to-COVID
hater
10-29-2020, 12:06 PM
Europe going back to hard lockdowns
USA would start seeing 100k infections a day next week.
Trumptards believing the "we beat the virus" BS from Orangegutan :lmao
SnakeBoy
10-29-2020, 12:33 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElE7EHeVgAAq8rm?format=jpg&name=900x900
lol they left off all the holes lining up and the infected person on the other side
Winehole23
10-29-2020, 12:43 PM
lol they left off all the holes lining up and the infected person on the other sideMitigation is the only claim here. It's as true of vaccines as any other intervention, none can prevent disease 100%, but taken all together, infection and morbidity -- harm to people -- can be significantly reduced.
SnakeBoy
10-29-2020, 12:43 PM
Taiwan didn't believe WHO when it was saying "no person to person trransmission." Otherwise, it did all the things the experts recommend: masking, social distancing, rapid testing, robust social tracing and quarantine for positive cases and new arrivals.
Yeah they didn't believe the experts like I said. Our experts were still saying the risk is low when I had covid :lol
None of it matters because it's an endemic virus and even the places you think are examples will ultimately have their populations get infected. I mean if you want to give me the realistic scenario in which Joe Biden "stomps out" this virus I'd like to hear it. Keeping in mind that it is everywhere on the planet and forward transmission has been documented in canines, felines, and muskelids.
DarrinS
10-29-2020, 01:13 PM
Except china contanied it and they aint an island :lol
They did?
RandomGuy
10-29-2020, 01:18 PM
Yeah they didn't believe the experts like I said. Our experts were still saying the risk is low when I had covid :lol
None of it matters because it's an endemic virus and even the places you think are examples will ultimately have their populations get infected. I mean if you want to give me the realistic scenario in which Joe Biden "stomps out" this virus I'd like to hear it. Keeping in mind that it is everywhere on the planet and forward transmission has been documented in canines, felines, and muskelids.
Not really the point, dishonest sack of shit.
Point is whether or not you overwhelm your healthcare system by having a runaway infection spike.
Are you even capable of having any honest thought on this topic?
Or do you just genuinely not know how thin our ICU capacity is relative to the population by this point in the game?
Dumb or dishonest? Which is it?
SnakeBoy
10-29-2020, 01:32 PM
Not really the point, dishonest sack of shit.
Point is whether or not you overwhelm your healthcare system by having a runaway infection spike.
Are you even capable of having any honest thought on this topic?
Or do you just genuinely not know how thin our ICU capacity is relative to the population by this point in the game?
Dumb or dishonest? Which is it?
Is Biden going to shut down the virus?
hater
10-29-2020, 02:01 PM
They did?
Sure did. You missed it?
SnakeBoy
10-29-2020, 02:58 PM
They did?
Yes, in a week their case count dropped off a cliff down to nothing. Now only foreigners get covid in China :lol
SnakeBoy
10-29-2020, 03:17 PM
Michael Bay making a movie for all you Nancies
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Blake
10-29-2020, 03:25 PM
Michael Bay making a movie for all you Nancies
1321844247583166474
Let us know how it is after you watch it
Chris
10-29-2020, 03:41 PM
https://twitter.com/AntonioSabatoJr/status/1321800906640445440?s=19
link got blocked
Dirks_Finale
10-29-2020, 03:45 PM
Masks work, right?
Or maybe not so much since everyone wears them and the virus is still virus-ing.
Europe going back to hard lockdowns
USA would start seeing 100k infections a day next week.
Trumptards believing the "we beat the virus" BS from Orangegutan :lmao
Taiwan didn't believe WHO when it was saying "no person to person trransmission." Otherwise, it did all the things the experts recommend: masking, social distancing, rapid testing, robust social tracing and quarantine for positive cases and new arrivals.
We can't be Taiwan, but we could be a damn sight better if we gave a damn. Not having a national strategy for COVID-19 seven to eight months after the outbreak is worse than rank incompetence, it's callous indifference to human life.
So feds should have control over states?
ElNono
10-29-2020, 04:15 PM
https://twitter.com/AntonioSabatoJr/status/1321800906640445440?s=19
link got blocked
lol the stupidity never ends
RandomGuy
10-29-2020, 04:50 PM
Is Biden going to shut down the virus?
Point is whether or not you overwhelm your healthcare system by having a runaway infection spike.
You can shut it down to not overwhelm the healthcare system.
So yeah, he can do that, with a reasonable, scientifically based plan.
Going to require you whiney titty-babies to fucking wear masks though.
RandomGuy
10-29-2020, 04:54 PM
https://twitter.com/AntonioSabatoJr/status/1321800906640445440?s=19
link got blocked
Principia Scientific International (PSI) was originally conceived in 2010 after 22 international climate experts and authors joined forces to write the climate science bestseller, ‘Slaying the Sky Dragon: Death of the Greenhouse Gas Theory.’
The two-volume publication is the world’s first and only detailed refutation of the greenhouse gas effect. According to prominent climate skeptic, Lord Monckton the book soon became ” the talk of the Cancun Climate Conference.”
Lord Monckton, OMFG its THAT loon. :rollin
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
SnakeBoy
10-29-2020, 05:19 PM
Point is whether or not you overwhelm your healthcare system by having a runaway infection spike.
You can shut it down to not overwhelm the healthcare system.
So yeah, he can do that, with a reasonable, scientifically based plan.
Going to require you whiney titty-babies to fucking wear masks though.
Biden is going to let the virus burn through the population just slow enough as to not overwhelm the hospitals. Is that what you think Biden has been saying?
RandomGuy
10-29-2020, 05:21 PM
Biden is going to let the virus burn through the population just slow enough as to not overwhelm the hospitals. Is that what you think Biden has been saying?
Nope.
Nice try though.
You whiney titty-babies will have to wear masks.
They work.
Eat it.
Chris
10-29-2020, 05:47 PM
Lord Monckton, OMFG its THAT loon. :rollin
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
ad hominem
RandomGuy
10-29-2020, 06:07 PM
ad hominem
It's wrong because it is factually incorrect. It is, in essence, a lie.
It is not wrong because it is a looney motherfucker saying it.
Not an ad hominem.
Q.
E.
D.
You.
Stupid.
Whore.
Chris
10-29-2020, 06:10 PM
It's wrong because it is factually incorrect. It is, in essence, a lie.
It is not wrong because it is a looney motherfucker saying it.
Not an ad hominem.
Q.
E.
D.
You.
Stupid.
Whore.
ad hominem
boutons_deux
10-29-2020, 06:25 PM
Like Hawaii.
Jamaica also has done well, no cruise ships, no flights, and really no way to handle a pandemic
Winehole23
10-29-2020, 06:32 PM
Yeah they didn't believe the experts like I said. Our experts were still saying the risk is low when I had covid :lol
None of it matters because it's an endemic virus and even the places you think are examples will ultimately have their populations get infected. I mean if you want to give me the realistic scenario in which Joe Biden "stomps out" this virus I'd like to hear it. Keeping in mind that it is everywhere on the planet and forward transmission has been documented in canines, felines, and muskelids.I don't think there is a realistic scenario where it gets stomped out. Pretty much all we can do is mitigate harm until we have an effective vaccine or COVID-19 becomes much less dangerous on its own.
boutons_deux
10-29-2020, 07:11 PM
89K Thu
but probably well over 100K due to insufficient testing and red/Confederate state lying
tholdren
10-29-2020, 08:03 PM
It's wrong because it is factually incorrect. It is, in essence, a lie.
It is not wrong because it is a looney motherfucker saying it.
Not an ad hominem.
Q.
E.
D.
You.
Stupid.
Whore.
Remember when you said all Texas, Florida and Georgia would be out of hospitals?
How about when you said kids and teachers would die in schools if they opened...
How about all those heart conditions in athletes.
And your ifr.
You low level math bro
Winehole23
10-29-2020, 09:41 PM
So feds should have control over states?Nope.
Nope.
"Not having a national strategy for COVID-19 seven to eight months after the outbreak is worse than rank incompetence, it's callous indifference to human life."
How does a "national strategy" exist without getting states involved? If you travel any other than locally, you'd see that basic COVID protocol has stark differences between states. In one state you are required to have your temp taken, wear a mask, answer a questionnaire. If you've traveled more than X number of miles in the past X number of days, you cannot enter certain facilities. In the state right next door you can walk leisurely through the airport without a mask. On the flight between those states you may either be jammed right next to another anonymous person who had no COVID screening prior to boarding, or you might have an open middle seat depending on the airline. You might not be able to drink at the hotel bar in one state, but the same chain hotel in another state will have a packed bar.
Tell me about this national strategy.
pgardn
10-29-2020, 11:13 PM
"Not having a national strategy for COVID-19 seven to eight months after the outbreak is worse than rank incompetence, it's callous indifference to human life."
How does a "national strategy" exist without getting states involved? If you travel any other than locally, you'd see that basic COVID protocol has stark differences between states. In one state you are required to have your temp taken, wear a mask, answer a questionnaire. If you've traveled more than X number of miles in the past X number of days, you cannot enter certain facilities. In the state right next door you can walk leisurely through the airport without a mask. On the flight between those states you may either be jammed right next to another anonymous person who had no COVID screening prior to boarding, or you might have an open middle seat depending on the airline. You might not be able to drink at the hotel bar in one state, but the same chain hotel in another state will have a packed bar.
Tell me about this national strategy.
To get States and localities to work on this together to prevent the spread.
Its called a coordinated response from the UNITED States.
Ef-man
10-29-2020, 11:25 PM
Schooling dmc on what “national strategy” means, damn, who would have thought.
To get States and localities to work on this together to prevent the spread.
Its called a coordinated response from the UNITED States.
Winehole23
10-29-2020, 11:50 PM
"Not having a national strategy for COVID-19 seven to eight months after the outbreak is worse than rank incompetence, it's callous indifference to human life."
How does a "national strategy" exist without getting states involved? It doesn't, the states have to buy in.
The federal government sets guidelines and coordinates with states to meet them, like we've done in the past. Cooperation, not dirgisme. The feds can't force the states to do anything, but it can help provide the things the states need to fight a pandemic: consistent messaging from public health authorities (admittedly difficult with a novel pathogen we still don't know everything about), logistical planning, PPE, diagnostic testing, contact tracing, R&D for vaccines and theraputics and financial help for states and hospitals. Rent/mortgage and debt moratoriums and unemployment insurance help to buffer economic damage and social dislocation. Paying people to stay home, like they're doing in Canada and the EU, is another smart policy.
States can't deficit spend, so there's at least one strong financial incentive for states to accept federal help. Letting states fight a pandemic like COVID-19 on their own dime eventually involves public layoffs and diminished services. The people get less back for what they pay in taxes, and it's a drag on economic growth. So, there are a couple of political incentives for states to play ball. It seems worth mentioning in passing that uncontrolled pandemics are economically damaging all by themselves, exclusive of mitigation.
There's no need to invent the wheel, the CDC might still be the world's greatest public health bureaucracy, if allowed to do its job. Plenty of untapped institutional knowledge there, pity it got subordinated to the political needs of Trump/Pence 2020.
Winehole23
10-29-2020, 11:56 PM
To get States and localities to work on this together to prevent the spread.
Its called a coordinated response from the UNITED States.You said it better. :tu
Blake
10-30-2020, 12:18 AM
https://twitter.com/AntonioSabatoJr/status/1321800906640445440?s=19
link got blocked
:lmao :lmao Antonio Sabato Jr
I didn't think you could find a more washed up Hollywood actor/actress than Kirstie Alley to follow. Well done.
Chris
10-30-2020, 02:34 AM
:lmao :lmao Antonio Sabato Jr
I didn't think you could find a more washed up Hollywood actor/actress than Kirstie Alley to follow. Well done.
ad hominem
Winehole23
10-30-2020, 02:51 AM
ad hominemThis isn't:
The total number of excess deaths (deaths above average levels) from January 26 through October 3 ranged from a low of approximately 841 in the youngest age group (<25 years) to a high of 94,646 among adults aged 75–84 years.§§ However, the average percentage change in deaths over this period compared with previous years was largest for adults aged 25–44 years (26.5%) (Figure 2 (https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm?s_cid=mm6942e2_w#F2_down)). Overall, numbers of deaths among persons aged <25 years were 2.0% below average,¶¶ and among adults aged 45–64, 65–74 years, 75–84, and ≥85 years were 14.4%, 24.1%, 21.5%, and 14.7% above average, respectively.https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm
Nor is this:
Between March 1 and August 1, 2020, 1 336 561 deaths occurred in the US, a 20% increase over expected deaths
Of the 225 530 excess deaths, 150 541 (67%) were attributed to COVID-19. Joinpoint analyses revealed an increase in deaths attributed to causes other than COVID-19, with 2 reaching statistical significance. US mortality rates for heart disease increased between weeks ending March 21 and April 11 (APC, 5.1 [95% CI, 0.2-10.2]), driven by the spring surge in COVID-19 cases. Mortality rates for Alzheimer disease/dementia increased twice, between weeks ending March 21 and April 11 (APC, 7.3 [95% CI, 2.9-11.8]) and between weeks ending June 6 and July 25 (APC, 1.5 [95% CI, 0.8-2.3]), the latter coinciding with the summer surge in sunbelt states.https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2771761?guestAccessKey=0c3da4cd-caaf-48e1-bf7b-2cc3c20a94b7
Chris
10-30-2020, 02:55 AM
Those numbers have been debunked.
Winehole23
10-30-2020, 02:56 AM
Those numbers have been debunked.Show us where, profe.
Chris
10-30-2020, 02:58 AM
https://twitter.com/AntonioSabatoJr/status/1321800906640445440?s=19
Winehole23
10-30-2020, 03:10 AM
Those numbers have been debunked.The studies I linked were published after the Principia Scientifica article, how can it be accurate at all to say the CDC and JAMA studies were debunked when they were not even addressed? Hand waving about comorbidities doesn't get you past the finish line.
Let's stipulate, arguendo, that you're a hemophiliac and that I have a large knife. If I stab you and you bleed out, the proper cause of death is hemophilia, right?
Chris
10-30-2020, 03:10 AM
Show us where, profe.
You can watch this if you don't like reading :tu
https://twitter.com/drdavidsamadi/status/1321816020923883521?s=19
Winehole23
10-30-2020, 03:15 AM
You can watch this if you don't like reading :tu
https://twitter.com/drdavidsamadi/status/1321816020923883521?s=19I read the article, thanks. It's more argumentative than analytical, tbh.
For example, this bit of fiat reasoning right at the beginning. Fine and well to say SARS-CoV-2 is not a new pathogen and isn't proven to cause disease, but to do so without offering support, or pointing out how the existing studies saying it is a novel pathogen and does sicken and kill people are wrong, gives the article away as pure BS
But the consensus narrative has been to downplay these confounding factors and place the emphasis on a coronavirus which has not yet been clinically isolated and proven as a new pathogen in science.
Chris
10-30-2020, 03:18 AM
The video is quite informative. You might learn something.
Winehole23
10-30-2020, 03:21 AM
The video is quite informative. You might learn something.Can you summarize it?
Otherwise it's impossible for anyone to tell whether you read or understood your source.
Chris
10-30-2020, 03:24 AM
Can you summarize it?
Otherwise it's impossible for anyone to tell whether you read or understood your source.
It's a 3 minute video.
Watch it or stay in the dark.
Winehole23
10-30-2020, 03:27 AM
It's a 3 minute video.
Watch it or stay in the dark.You can't summarize your own source. That's just pitiful.
hater
10-30-2020, 04:26 AM
You can't summarize your own source. That's just pitiful.
You hate to see it
Chris
10-30-2020, 04:36 AM
Can you summarize it?
Otherwise it's impossible for anyone to tell whether you read or understood your source.
You can't summarize your own source. That's just pitiful.
Why should I summarize it for you? You are rude and condescending, and show no pliability. What do I have to gain since I have nothing to prove to you?
pgardn
10-30-2020, 08:23 AM
We have turned the corner according to fat orange survivor.
So that corner was an explosion of new cases.
Cool.
Waiting the magical disappearance of the virus next.
Next was not given a time frame, eventually can actually take time.
The orange intellectual sloth had no idea this could actually hurt his chances to win as an incumbent.
BClinton, George w, Obama all head slapping the political prowess of 4d chess.
pgardn
10-30-2020, 08:27 AM
Why should I summarize it for you? You are rude and condescending, and show no pliability. What do I have to gain since I have nothing to prove to you?
With your posting, the bolded is an involuntary response.
You go so low the probability of descending is a given.
TimDunkem
10-30-2020, 08:28 AM
Chris telling others they're condescending. :lol
ElNono
10-30-2020, 08:54 AM
Those numbers have been debunked.
https://twitter.com/AntonioSabatoJr/status/1321800906640445440?s=19
link got blocked
Not the same numbers, and "link got blocked" because fake news.
ElNono
10-30-2020, 08:56 AM
You can't summarize your own source. That's just pitiful.
He just needs an upgrade.
Winehole23
10-30-2020, 09:05 AM
Why should I summarize it for you? You might draw the sympathy and understanding of others. You might persuade me too.
You are rude and condescending... Sorry I hurt your feelings, you sure have thin skin for someone who trolls and abuses other posters on the reg. What specifically did I say that offended you?
...and show no pliability.Believe it or not, I pay attention to other viewpoints and I do accept correction from other posters here. If you don't want to persuade anyone else, that's your business.
spurraider21
10-30-2020, 09:15 AM
Lord Monckton, OMFG its THAT loon. :rollin
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Monckton Bunkum series by potholer54
To get States and localities to work on this together to prevent the spread.
Its called a coordinated response from the UNITED States.
You mean like an agency that states respect and follow? We could call it the Centers for Disease Control.
It doesn't, the states have to buy in.
The federal government sets guidelines and coordinates with states to meet them, like we've done in the past. Cooperation, not dirgisme. The feds can't force the states to do anything, but it can help provide the things the states need to fight a pandemic: consistent messaging from public health authorities (admittedly difficult with a novel pathogen we still don't know everything about), logistical planning, PPE, diagnostic testing, contact tracing, R&D for vaccines and theraputics and financial help for states and hospitals. Rent/mortgage and debt moratoriums and unemployment insurance help to buffer economic damage and social dislocation. Paying people to stay home, like they're doing in Canada and the EU, is another smart policy.
States can't deficit spend, so there's at least one strong financial incentive for states to accept federal help. Letting states fight a pandemic like COVID-19 on their own dime eventually involves public layoffs and diminished services. The people get less back for what they pay in taxes, and it's a drag on economic growth. So, there are a couple of political incentives for states to play ball. It seems worth mentioning in passing that uncontrolled pandemics are economically damaging all by themselves, exclusive of mitigation.
There's no need to invent the wheel, the CDC might still be the world's greatest public health bureaucracy, if allowed to do its job. Plenty of untapped institutional knowledge there, pity it got subordinated to the political needs of Trump/Pence 2020.
You expect 50 different governments to volunteer to follow a central federally driven agency?
:lol
Ideologue solutions aren't actually solutions. They are just wishes. As long as there are two parties fighting for power over federal funds, there will always be incentive based directives that states have the freedom to choose (poor states) or ignore (more self sufficient states).
So after all this bloviating about federal responsibility, it really isn't under federal control. Why all the bullshit?
ChumpDumper
10-30-2020, 11:20 AM
Trump is just a shitty leader.
His supporters don't want to admit it.
RandomGuy
10-30-2020, 11:23 AM
Monckton Bunkum series by potholer54
potholer is one of my favs. I am quite familiar, that is how I recogized the name.
Anything that moron touches is almost certainly horseshit, and should be treated with a mile-high pile of skepticism and fact-checking
Ef-man
10-30-2020, 11:24 AM
You can't summarize your own source. That's just pitiful.
More bot-like behavior.
RandomGuy
10-30-2020, 11:25 AM
You expect 50 different governments to volunteer to follow a central federally driven agency?
:lol
Ideologue solutions aren't actually solutions. They are just wishes. As long as there are two parties fighting for power over federal funds, there will always be incentive based directives that states have the freedom to choose (poor states) or ignore (more self sufficient states).
So after all this bloviating about federal responsibility, it really isn't under federal control. Why all the bullshit?
Yeah, why would a state want to follow the recommendation of the Center for Disease Control? That is just waaay too much to expect or demand. (strains eyes rolling them so hard)
Diseases do not give a shit about state borders, responses to such should be federal. Just like invading armies do not care.
RandomGuy
10-30-2020, 11:26 AM
Trump is just a shitty leader.
His supporters don't want to admit it.
Yes.
and
Nope.
SAD!
If they admitted he was a shitty leader, they would have to owe up to getting conned.
Some of the smarter ones already know it, but won't admit it, which I am sure includes one or two that post here.
Winehole23
10-30-2020, 11:47 AM
You expect 50 different governments to volunteer to follow a central federally driven agency?
:lol I think most of them would take the federal money and the advice. So much the worse for them if they don't.
YouIdeologue solutions aren't actually solutions. They are just wishes. I didn't learn about about disease mitigation from Democratic politicians. I doubt very many people did. Diagnostic testing, contact tracing, masking, social distancing and quarantine are all off-the-rack epidemic countermeasures. I'm not sure what role you think political ideology has here, can you unpack that?
So after all this bloviating about federal responsibility, it really isn't under federal control. Why all the bullshit?It's not bullshit. National leadership matters, it's one of the main differences between countries that have done better and those that have done worse. The states do have to buy in, but that hardly means there's no role for the federal government. Quite the contrary. Only the federal government has the resources to fight COVID-19 on a nationwide basis.
hater
10-30-2020, 12:29 PM
Holy shit. I called 400k deaths by 2021 and today:
Reuters) - U.S. deaths from the coronavirus will reach 410,000 by the end of the year, more than double the current death toll, and deaths could soar to 3,000 per day in December, the University of Washington's health institute forecast on Friday.
:wow
Nostrahateramus :wow
hater
10-30-2020, 12:30 PM
3,000 carcasses a fucking day
Where we gona put these rotting fucking carcasses now? They aint gone be enough refrigerated trucks
hater
10-30-2020, 12:31 PM
So we are basically expecting 100k dead in the month of Dec?
1 Sept 11 every single December day????
Yeah, why would a state want to follow the recommendation of the Center for Disease Control? That is just waaay too much to expect or demand. (strains eyes rolling them so hard)
Diseases do not give a shit about state borders, responses to such should be federal. Just like invading armies do not care.
Piss poor reading comprehension. States have the freedom to choose. Why they would or would not choose this or that is irrelevant. Incentives work for some, not for all. A comprehensive, national strategy has to have teeth else it's a national suggestion.
Do you think the feds should force their decisions on states under federal law that supersedes state directives?
I think most of them would take the federal money and the advice. So much the worse for them if they don't.
It's not a national strategy if it's just a suggestion. What kind of strategy is it to hope states do something you have zero control over?
I didn't learn about about disease mitigation from Democratic politicians. I doubt very many people did. Diagnostic testing, contact tracing, masking, social distancing and quarantine are all off-the-rack epidemic countermeasures. I'm not sure what role you think political ideology has here, can you unpack that?
You are wishing states would all get together and enact the most effective laws and rules regarding mitigation of the pandemic. You haven't even bothered to address how it's possible from the view of the federal government to enforce anything. Are you considering "national strategy" to be collective agreement or federal mandate? Since you don't have an answer for that, it's just ideologue tire spinning and finger pointing.
It's not bullshit. National leadership matters, it's one of the main differences between countries that have done better and those that have done worse. The states do have to buy in, but that hardly means there's no role for the federal government. Quite the contrary. Only the federal government has the resources to fight COVID-19 on a nationwide basis.
Cool story. Explain how the national leadership can force states to comply with federal regulations regarding COVID related issues when they cannot even force them to comply with immigration laws.
Holy shit. I called 400k deaths by 2021 and today:
Reuters) - U.S. deaths from the coronavirus will reach 410,000 by the end of the year, more than double the current death toll, and deaths could soar to 3,000 per day in December, the University of Washington's health institute forecast on Friday.
:wow
Nostrahateramus :wow
3,000 carcasses a fucking day
Where we gona put these rotting fucking carcasses now? They aint gone be enough refrigerated trucks
So we are basically expecting 100k dead in the month of Dec?
1 Sept 11 every single December day????
Every day is WW infinity
called it
hater
10-30-2020, 02:38 PM
Every day is WW infinity
called it
We should bomb wuhan and call it a victory over the virus :lmao
tholdren
10-30-2020, 04:25 PM
Piss poor reading comprehension. States have the freedom to choose. Why they would or would not choose this or that is irrelevant. Incentives work for some, not for all. A comprehensive, national strategy has to have teeth else it's a national suggestion.
Do you think the feds should force their decisions on states under federal law that supersedes state directives?
He's lower iq than TimDunkem
Winehole23
10-30-2020, 05:07 PM
It's not a national strategy if it's just a suggestion Sure it is, if the states buy in. It's in their economic and political self-interest to do so.
You are wishing states would all get together and enact the most effective laws and rules regarding mitigation of the pandemic. You haven't even bothered to address how it's possible from the view of the federal government to enforce anything. Are you considering "national strategy" to be collective agreement or federal mandate? Since you don't have an answer for that, it's just ideologue tire spinning and finger pointing.It doesn't have to be a formal agreement or a mandate. Ideally, the CDC sets guidelines and the states go along because they don't want to bear the cost or the political responsibility.
The CDC wasn't a politcal wedge issue until Trump made it one. Present US pandemic policy in its present form was largely established by GWB, with some tweaks by Obama. Calling me an ideologue for preferring GWB's pandemic policy to Trump's is surely true, but not in the sense you intended.
Cool story. Explain how the national leadership can force states to comply with federal regulations regarding COVID related issues when they cannot even force them to comply with immigration laws.I've already stipulated the government can't force states to go along. Government isn't all about coercion. Money, material assistance and the federal assumption of politcal responsibility for pandemic response are strong incentives for states to play ball.
We should bomb wuhan and call it a victory over the virus :lmao
Just move there. They'll instantly be a shithole with an ELE in their immediate future.
Sure it is, if the states buy in. It's in their economic and political self-interest to do so.
So the strategy at the federal level is to hope the states buy in? Let's apply that to other things. I have a strategy for getting wealthy. Step 1 - hope I get wealthy. If others buy in then bam.. I'm set.
"a plan of action or policy designed to achieve a major or overall aim."
What's the plan of action, hoping?
It doesn't have to be a formal agreement or a mandate. Ideally, the CDC sets guidelines and the states go along because they don't want to bear the cost or the political responsibility.
The CDC wasn't a politcal wedge issue until Trump made it one. Present US pandemic policy in its present form was largely established by GWB, with some tweaks by Obama. Calling me an ideologue for preferring GWB's pandemic policy to Trump's is surely true, but not in the sense you intended.
I've already stipulated the government can't force states to go along. Government isn't all about coercion. Money, material assistance and the federal assumption of politcal responsibility for pandemic response are strong incentives for states to play ball.
Policy isn't a strategy. Thinking all states would bend to the will of the feds is naïve. Like I said before, they cannot even agree on proper protocol for travel restrictions. That has nothing to do with the feds and everything to do with the state governments and their individual economic ties/needs and to a degree, their ability to respond.
Again, you're not even beginning to offer what a national strategy would look like. It's one thing to say federal response, but to have a national strategy, states would need to adopt it and it wouldn't be effective if you could simply cross state lines and encounter a myriad of protocols. Hell, you cannot even find consistent protocol within your own city.
I get it though, you need someone to pin it on. Never mind the fact that you cannot even postulate a feasible alternative.
Winehole23
10-30-2020, 05:24 PM
So the strategy at the federal level is to hope the states buy in? Let's apply that to other things. I have a strategy for getting wealthy. Step 1 - hope I get wealthy. If others buy in then bam.. I'm set.
"a plan of action or policy designed to achieve a major or overall aim."
What's the plan of action, hoping?
Policy isn't a strategy. Thinking all states would bend to the will of the feds is naïve. Like I said before, they cannot even agree on proper protocol for travel restrictions. That has nothing to do with the feds and everything to do with the state governments and their individual economic ties/needs and to a degree, their ability to respond.
Again, you're not even beginning to offer what a national strategy would look like. It's one thing to say federal response, but to have a national strategy, states would need to adopt it and it wouldn't be effective if you could simply cross state lines and encounter a myriad of protocols. Hell, you cannot even find consistent protocol within your own city.
I get it though, you need someone to pin it on. Never mind the fact that you cannot even postulate a feasible alternative.Piss poor reading comprehension and short term memory. You're pettifogging or emitting pot smoke, not sure which.
(If the latter, pass that dutchie over here)
Winehole23
10-30-2020, 05:26 PM
(Political fatalist DMC says there's no pplicy without coercion and additionally suggests there is no alternative to the course Trump has plotted.)
Piss poor reading comprehension and short term memory. You're pettifogging or emitting pot smoke, not sure which.
(If the latter, pass that dutchie over here)
DMC all in on TINA
You tipped over again. You were wobbly but now you're supine.
No feasible strategy. You're another salesman in a room of salesmen, all trying to sell to one another, not a customer in site, no one buying anything.. :lol
tholdren
10-30-2020, 05:37 PM
Sure it is, if the states buy in. It's in their economic and political self-interest to do so.
It doesn't have to be a formal agreement or a mandate. Ideally, the CDC sets guidelines and the states go along because they don't want to bear the cost or the political responsibility.
The CDC wasn't a politcal wedge issue until Trump made it one. Present US pandemic policy in its present form was largely established by GWB, with some tweaks by Obama. Calling me an ideologue for preferring GWB's pandemic policy to Trump's is surely true, but not in the sense you intended.
I've already stipulated the government can't force states to go along. Government isn't all about coercion. Money, material assistance and the federal assumption of politcal responsibility for pandemic response are strong incentives for states to play ball.
Bwahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahaj
Cdc can't even tell you how many actual cases or deaths there are. Not to mention those quarantine rules. Bwahahahhahaha
Winehole23
10-30-2020, 05:51 PM
You tipped over again. You were wobbly but now you're supine.
No feasible strategy. You're another salesman in a room of salesmen, all trying to sell to one another, not a customer in site, no one buying anything.. :lolEh, you aren't "everybody." i can't help what you're unable to see or remember.
(Political fatalist DMC says there's no pplicy without coercion and additionally suggests there is no alternative to the course Trump has plotted.)
Color commentary based strawman aside, you moved the goalpost from strategy to policy.
Eh, you aren't "everybody." i can't help what you're unable to see or remember.
Who said "everybody" that you just put in quotes?
I'm still waiting for you to offer a viable national strategy complete with details on how you're going to get all 50 states to comply. I expect instead for you to beat a hasty "better than Trump" smokescreen retreat.
Without a federal mandate, policy is useless. If it made sense states would be doing it already, they have the power.
Will Hunting
10-30-2020, 06:00 PM
Wonder if we can reach 100k new cases today. Would be a great milestone for Trump’s legacy.
tholdren
10-30-2020, 06:02 PM
Wonder if we can reach 100k new cases today. Would be a great milestone for Trump’s legacy.
I hope so. 100k asymptomatic cases. Win
At least 35 states have criminal laws that punish HIV-positive people for exposing others to the virus, even if they take precautions such as using a condom. Should the states do the same with COVID?
Blake
10-30-2020, 06:10 PM
At least 35 states have criminal laws that punish HIV-positive people for exposing others to the virus, even if they take precautions such as using a condom. Should the states do the same with COVID?
Yes and plenty already do.
tholdren
10-30-2020, 06:10 PM
At least 35 states have criminal laws that punish HIV-positive people for exposing others to the virus, even if they take precautions such as using a condom. Should the states do the same with COVID?
They've already set the precedent for frivolous lawsuits. See cdc recommendations and liability. Quarantine of the healthy is unconstitutional.
hater
10-30-2020, 06:11 PM
Just move there. They'll instantly be a shithole with an ELE in their immediate future.
Someday someday....
Wishful thinking.
Meanwhile gotta survive in this covid shithole latrine that is the US of A :lol
tholdren
10-30-2020, 06:11 PM
Yes and plenty already do.
Everyone's a victim. Send those who give others a cold to prison!
Will Hunting
10-30-2020, 06:13 PM
At least 35 states have criminal laws that punish HIV-positive people for exposing others to the virus, even if they take precautions such as using a condom. Should the states do the same with COVID?
Yes. If were a governor and I had the ability to, I’d make it so being a Karen and trying to walk into a grocery store without a mask on is punishable with jail time.
Winehole23
10-30-2020, 06:14 PM
Color commentary based strawman aside, you moved the goalpost from strategy to policy.Not sure the two are mutually exclusive, given that states can't deficit spend and frankly don't have the resources or the institutional capacity to deal with extraordinary pandemics. You don't read and retain information too well, it seems.
Winehole23
10-30-2020, 06:17 PM
At least 35 states have criminal laws that punish HIV-positive people for exposing others to the virus, even if they take precautions such as using a condom. Should the states do the same with COVID?There at least 13 oyster related felonies punishable in Texas.
How often do you think they are enforced?
RandomGuy
10-30-2020, 06:17 PM
Every day is WW infinity
called it
Observed number of unweighted deaths, United States, for 2020 period (weeks ended 1-4 through 10-17):
2,491,625
https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Excess-Deaths-Associated-with-COVID-19/xkkf-xrst
Sort data top level:
"type"
sort data second level:
"state"
Take total of column C (observed) for data subset: unweighted type (column N), state (column B) "United States".
Add in OBNR factor of 20% for the last six weeks, (61k deaths occurred but not reported) for the same period, and you get:
2,553,383
Assume that previous 41 week average holds, including 6 week OBNR factor: (62277 average)
3,238,437 deaths for all weeks.
Five days in that total are for days outside of 2020 period. Apply discount of 5/371>>>> 1-(5/371)
3,194,792
3.2-
2.8
==========
400k
400/2800 = 14.3% spike in total deaths from all causes. Given the pandemic didn't really kick in until a few months in, that is pretty bad. COVID will end up being the 3rd leading cause of death this year.
tholdren
10-30-2020, 06:21 PM
Observed number of unweighted deaths, United States, for 2020 period (weeks ended 1-4 through 10-17):
2,491,625
https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Excess-Deaths-Associated-with-COVID-19/xkkf-xrst
Sort data top level:
"type"
sort data second level:
"state"
Take total of column C (observed) for data subset: unweighted type (column N), state (column B) "United States".
Add in OBNR factor of 20% for the last six weeks, (61k deaths occurred but not reported) for the same period, and you get:
2,553,383
Assume that previous 41 week average holds, including 6 week OBNR factor: (62277 average)
3,238,437 deaths for all weeks.
Five days in that total are for days outside of 2020 period. Apply discount of 5/371>>>> 1-(5/371)
3,194,792
3.2-
2.8
==========
400k
400/2800 = 14.3% spike in total deaths from all causes. Given the pandemic didn't really kick in until a few months in, that is pretty bad. COVID will end up being the 3rd leading cause of death this year.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.oregonlive.com/coronavirus/2020/10/why-did-an-oregon-health-official-dressed-like-a-clown-read-off-the-coronavirus-death-toll.html%3foutputType=amp
WrongdomGuy clown math
tholdren
10-30-2020, 07:17 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.oregonlive.com/coronavirus/2020/10/why-did-an-oregon-health-official-dressed-like-a-clown-read-off-the-coronavirus-death-toll.html%3foutputType=amp
WrongdomGuy clown math
He's a clown
pgardn
10-30-2020, 09:18 PM
You mean like an agency that states respect and follow? We could call it the Centers for Disease Control.
No you cant.
Not when the orange man purposely sabotages federal agencies.
Grow up. Anyone could have made a mistake on this early. All sorts of health agencies did because it was so new. But to then completely ignore and attempt to control the data as well so it cant even be criticized. To purposely create chaos... Thats where you have cast yourself... Honest broker.
Dont plow this shit in the dirt, nothing will grow from it.
CDC is bad... muh guns...
tholdren
10-30-2020, 10:33 PM
No you cant.
Not when the orange man purposely sabotages federal agencies.
Grow up. Anyone could have made a mistake on this early. All sorts of health agencies did because it was so new. But to then completely ignore and attempt to control the data as well so it cant even be criticized. To purposely create chaos... Thats where you have cast yourself... Honest broker.
Dont plow this shit in the dirt, nothing will grow from it.
CDC is bad... muh guns...
You have argued hospital fail and casedemic for 9 months. Your iq super low
No you cant.
Not when the orange man purposely sabotages federal agencies.
Grow up. Anyone could have made a mistake on this early. All sorts of health agencies did because it was so new. But to then completely ignore and attempt to control the data as well so it cant even be criticized. To purposely create chaos... Thats where you have cast yourself... Honest broker.
Dont plow this shit in the dirt, nothing will grow from it.
CDC is bad... muh guns...
It was so new :lol
They called it SARS early on. They knew how to deal with SARS. You're a fucking idiot or liar if you wish to claim the CDC didn't consider the effectiveness of masks against spread from asymptomatic carriers. Why do you think people would panic and buy them all up? Because even though they aren't fucking virologists for the CDC, they had enough sense to make that connection.
Retard.
boutons_deux
10-31-2020, 07:23 PM
Experts warn Trump’s administration is ‘endangering people’
by covering up COVID-19 hospitalization data
the Trump administration is withholding from the public critical hospital data that experts say would be extremely useful in helping communities prepare for, track, and overcome Covid-19 outbreaks.
“The documents show that detailed information hospitals report to HHS every day is reviewed and analyzed—
but circulation seems to be limited
to a few dozen government staffers from HHS and its agencies,
including the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and National Institutes of Health,”
“Only one member of the White House Coronavirus Task Force, Adm. Brett Giroir, appears to receive the documents directly.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/10/experts-warn-trumps-administration-is-endangering-people-by-covering-up-19-hospitalization-data/
tholdren
10-31-2020, 07:55 PM
Experts warn Trump’s administration is ‘endangering people’
by covering up COVID-19 hospitalization data
the Trump administration is withholding from the public critical hospital data that experts say would be extremely useful in helping communities prepare for, track, and overcome Covid-19 outbreaks.
“The documents show that detailed information hospitals report to HHS every day is reviewed and analyzed—
but circulation seems to be limited
to a few dozen government staffers from HHS and its agencies,
including the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and National Institutes of Health,”
“Only one member of the White House Coronavirus Task Force, Adm. Brett Giroir, appears to receive the documents directly.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/10/experts-warn-trumps-administration-is-endangering-people-by-covering-up-19-hospitalization-data/
This is months old. And needed to be done.
Winehole23
11-01-2020, 02:38 PM
:lmao
1322962638012358657
SnakeBoy
11-01-2020, 02:52 PM
Influenza cases remain extremely low
Winehole23
11-01-2020, 02:56 PM
Influenza cases remain extremely lowWith all the emphasis on hand hygiene, masking, social distancing and getting the flu vaccine, it kinda makes sense that flu cases could be significantly down this year.
Blake
11-01-2020, 03:01 PM
With all the emphasis on hand hygiene, masking, social distancing and getting the flu vaccine, it kinda makes sense that flu cases could be significantly down this year.
I mean, logic.
SnakeBoy
11-01-2020, 03:03 PM
With all the emphasis on hand hygiene, masking, social distancing and getting the flu vaccine, it kinda makes sense that flu cases could be significantly down this year.
So people are following the recommendations :tu
Winehole23
11-01-2020, 03:04 PM
So people are following the recommendations :tuBy and large, it seems so.
ElNono
11-01-2020, 04:44 PM
:lmao
1322962638012358657
Only the best people!
Ef-man
11-01-2020, 04:46 PM
:lmao
1322962638012358657
Ask derp, he thinks RT is good.
ChumpDumper
11-01-2020, 05:49 PM
:lmao
1322962638012358657:lol Dr. Rube
hater
11-01-2020, 05:58 PM
Ask derp, he thinks RT is good.
RT is one of the top news orgs in the world right now. They win awards yearly.
Lol u clown
SnakeBoy
11-01-2020, 06:05 PM
RT is one of the top news orgs in the world right now. They win awards yearly.
Lol u clown
RT is pure propaganda and it's still more honest than our press :lol
Ef-man
11-01-2020, 06:22 PM
Pulitzer prize? No?
Honest broker. :lmao
Not even qchrisy can spermshield this for you. :lmao
RT is one of the top news orgs in the world right now. They win awards yearly.
Lol u clown
tholdren
11-01-2020, 08:25 PM
With all the emphasis on hand hygiene, masking, social distancing and getting the flu vaccine, it kinda makes sense that flu cases could be significantly down this year.
No it means 2 things.
1 those sick enough to die from flu did.
2 they are in a real classification pickle with deaths. Is it covid is it flu.
Stats fail
Trainwreck2100
11-01-2020, 08:32 PM
:lmao
1322962638012358657
wtf did he think RT stood for
Blake
11-01-2020, 09:04 PM
wtf did he think RT stood for
Rotten tomatoes
hater
11-01-2020, 09:07 PM
RT is pure propaganda and it's still more honest than our press :lol
Its a fraction of propaganda compared to cnn or fox :lmao
hater
11-01-2020, 09:08 PM
Pulitzer prize? No?
Honest broker. :lmao
Not even qchrisy can spermshield this for you. :lmao
RT >>>> cnn, fox by a billion miles
Keep spining big bird
tholdren
11-01-2020, 09:10 PM
No it means 2 things.
1 those sick enough to die from flu did.
2 they are in a real classification pickle with deaths. Is it covid is it flu.
Stats fail
Travel.is cheap now fly and cough on others
ChumpDumper
11-01-2020, 09:15 PM
You don't go anywhere.
Ef-man
11-01-2020, 09:20 PM
RT >>>> cnn, fox by a billion miles
Keep spining big bird
My condolences on the death of your common sense.
May it rest in piece.
Winehole23
11-01-2020, 09:31 PM
No it means 2 things.
1 those sick enough to die from flu did.
2 they are in a real classification pickle with deaths. Is it covid is it flu.
Stats failShush you, grown folks talkin.
pgardn
11-01-2020, 09:46 PM
It was so new :lol
They called it SARS early on. They knew how to deal with SARS. You're a fucking idiot or liar if you wish to claim the CDC didn't consider the effectiveness of masks against spread from asymptomatic carriers. Why do you think people would panic and buy them all up? Because even though they aren't fucking virologists for the CDC, they had enough sense to make that connection.
Retard.
The CDC is a mess because your frkn president only wants good news from them.
Live with it. And you have always had a dick up your ass for the CDC because... muh guns.
Fcktard.
pgardn
11-01-2020, 09:47 PM
Travel.is cheap now fly and cough on others
You go do that.
It would be interesting to watch you get your old ass kicked out a window.
tholdren
11-01-2020, 10:21 PM
You go do that.
It would be interesting to watch you get your old ass kicked out a window.
Lolooo9oooooopoooppl
Flying high no masks all the time.
I'm not scared like you.
ElNono
11-02-2020, 01:17 AM
Australia Records Zero New COVID-19 Infections
The continent of Australia, where nearly 25 million people live, "has recorded its first day of no local cases of Covid-19 in almost five months (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-54768038)," reports the BBC: Zero cases were reported in the 24 hours between 20:00 on Friday and 20:00 on Saturday - the first time this has happened since 9 June. The state of Victoria - epicentre of Australia's second wave - recorded zero cases for the second day in a row after a 112-day lockdown. Health officials say more restrictions may be eased in the coming days. "Thank you to all of our amazing health & public health workers & above all else the Australian people," Health Minister Greg Hunt said on his Twitter account.
Australia combined lockdowns with "proactive testing and tracing," the article reports, adding that in addition Victoria "imposed some of the severest stay-at-home and curfew rules in the world."
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:lmao f:lolldren getting consistently shat on by reality
ChumpDumper
11-02-2020, 01:35 AM
Australia Records Zero New COVID-19 Infections
The continent of Australia, where nearly 25 million people live, "has recorded its first day of no local cases of Covid-19 in almost five months (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-54768038)," reports the BBC: Zero cases were reported in the 24 hours between 20:00 on Friday and 20:00 on Saturday - the first time this has happened since 9 June. The state of Victoria - epicentre of Australia's second wave - recorded zero cases for the second day in a row after a 112-day lockdown. Health officials say more restrictions may be eased in the coming days. "Thank you to all of our amazing health & public health workers & above all else the Australian people," Health Minister Greg Hunt said on his Twitter account.
Australia combined lockdowns with "proactive testing and tracing," the article reports, adding that in addition Victoria "imposed some of the severest stay-at-home and curfew rules in the world."
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:lmao f:lolldren getting consistently shat on by reality:lmao f:lolldren tried to brag he was posting from Australia midnight to 6AM their time.
Chris
11-02-2020, 02:16 AM
https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1323157723693895680?s=19
ElNono
11-02-2020, 02:30 AM
https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1323157723693895680?s=19
Makes sense, POTUS completely quit on the pandemic.
Chris
11-02-2020, 02:32 AM
Makes sense, POTUS completely quit on the pandemic.
I'm sorry this is happening to you.
ElNono
11-02-2020, 02:32 AM
:lmao what a gigantic pussy too... waiting after the election because Fauci is a popular guy
ElNono
11-02-2020, 02:32 AM
I'm sorry this is happening to you.
Nothing is happening to me. I'm sorry this is happening to you tho
ChumpDumper
11-02-2020, 02:37 AM
I'm sorry this is happening to you.I'm sorry Trump let this pandemic happen to the US the way he did.
He's a colossal failure.
You don't give a shit about this country.
Chris
11-02-2020, 02:49 AM
I'm sorry Trump let this pandemic happen to the US the way he did.
He's a colossal failure.
You don't give a shit about this country.
Governors dropped the ball.
Trump did everything he could.
You want Big Gov to fix everything for you.
Move to China :tu
Blake
11-02-2020, 02:58 AM
Governors dropped the ball.
Trump did everything he could.
You want Big Gov to fix everything for you.
Move to China :tu
:lol
ChumpDumper
11-02-2020, 03:09 AM
Trump did everything he could.:lol no
Why do you lie for him?
He doesn't give a shit about you.
hater
11-02-2020, 08:52 AM
Governors dropped the ball.
Trump did everything he could.
You want Big Gov to fix everything for you.
Move to China :tu
Dump killed thousands of americans tbqh
His body count is through the roof
RandomGuy
11-02-2020, 10:00 AM
I'm sorry this is happening to you.
Sorry your cult leader is so incompetant. He would literally throw you under a bus to save himself.
RandomGuy
11-02-2020, 10:00 AM
Trump did everything he could.
which was what exactly?
the half-assed china ban in march?
The CDC is a mess because your frkn president only wants good news from them.
Live with it. And you have always had a dick up your ass for the CDC because... muh guns.
Fcktard.
CDC is politically driven. You just said as much. Way to kick your own ass.
Blake
11-02-2020, 12:57 PM
Sorry your cult leader is so incompetant. He would literally throw you under a bus to save himself.
And Chris would crawl out and still retweet Kirstie Alley
tholdren
11-02-2020, 01:16 PM
Lolooo9oooooopoooppl
Flying high no masks all the time.
I'm not scared like you.
I won
SnakeBoy
11-02-2020, 05:50 PM
German police kill old man for not being scared of covid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc8v3y63FN4&feature=emb_logo
ElNono
11-02-2020, 05:59 PM
German police kill old man for not being scared of covid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc8v3y63FN4&feature=emb_logo
Looks too young to be foldren.... that's really unfortunate, tbh
SnakeBoy
11-02-2020, 06:04 PM
Looks too young to be foldren.... that's really unfortunate, tbh
Don't make me go widowmaker on your ass
tholdren
11-02-2020, 06:16 PM
German police kill old man for not being scared of covid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc8v3y63FN4&feature=emb_logo
They were helping him save his life and stay safe
ElNono
11-02-2020, 06:17 PM
Don't make me go widowmaker on your ass
What, you gonna cry too now?
baseline bum
11-02-2020, 06:26 PM
German police kill old man for not being scared of covid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc8v3y63FN4&feature=emb_logo
I thought he'd not see another day, but fake news, grandpa skinhead survived and is still a faggot.
SnakeBoy
11-02-2020, 07:03 PM
What, you gonna cry too now?
I served motherfucker
ElNono
11-02-2020, 07:08 PM
I served motherfucker
Are you gonna beg for thank yous too? :lol
SnakeBoy
11-02-2020, 07:14 PM
Are you gonna beg for thank yous too? :lol
I don't want your thank you. I would accept cash, check, or money order :lol
Blake
11-02-2020, 07:22 PM
Don't make me go widowmaker on your ass
tough guy talk from SnakeGeezer
hater
11-02-2020, 07:23 PM
German police kill old man for not being scared of covid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc8v3y63FN4&feature=emb_logo
Them nazi genes are strong
TimDunkem
11-02-2020, 07:23 PM
Looks too young to be foldren.... that's really unfortunate, tbh
:lol
ElNono
11-02-2020, 07:26 PM
I don't want your thank you. I would accept cash, check, or money order :lol
my nig, we go way back... if you need help, hit me up, tbh...
I don't have a problem with service members, I just dislike entitled service members, tbh...
SnakeBoy
11-02-2020, 07:32 PM
my nig, we go way back... if you need help, hit me up, tbh...
I don't have a problem with service members, I just dislike entitled service members, tbh...
I know. It's a great troll job tbh :lol
tough guy talk from SnakeGeezer
derp
ElNono
11-02-2020, 07:55 PM
I know. It's a great troll job tbh :lol
I see you doing your low-key fan the flames thing, tbh :lol
ChumpDumper
11-02-2020, 08:12 PM
German police kill old man for not being scared of covid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc8v3y63FN4&feature=emb_logoYou are fake news.
Blake
11-02-2020, 08:42 PM
derp
Says geezer that posted the exact type of YouTube you'd find in a Derp thread.
boutons_deux
11-03-2020, 08:07 AM
"Texas has surpassed California as the state with the most coronavirus cases,
despite having 10 million fewer residents."
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-11-02/california-coronavirus-cases-outpaced-by-texas-but-state-warns-not-to-let-guard-down
And Texas now has most cases of any state :lol
https://media4.giphy.com/media/bTByutamJSjhS/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47znd1kjzcz1tlicsf4zh3ssg5rc3m jko2cydfjqje&rid=giphy.gif
pgardn
11-03-2020, 08:12 AM
I see you doing your low-key fan the flames thing, tbh :lol
Nah, he’s gone full derp in his best moments.
ElNono
11-03-2020, 10:21 AM
Nah, he’s gone full derp in his best moments.
You're getting trolled. Snake is, by and large, a red teamer and nobody would would be confused about that. But if you've been paying attention, he's been playing a very subtle troll game too.
hater
11-03-2020, 10:23 AM
Sweden with more strict lockdowns. Breaking records on infections and still getting deaths :wow
:lmao the idiots who believed on herd immunity :lmao
Called it :tu
hater
11-03-2020, 10:23 AM
https://twitter.com/TheLocalSweden/status/1323612904776589315?s=19
hater
11-03-2020, 10:24 AM
https://twitter.com/GoldbergRadio/status/1323402390851194881?s=19
hater
11-03-2020, 10:25 AM
Would be i teresting to see if swedens healthcare collapses in next few weeks
https://twitter.com/Elilusionista25/status/1323396774611046402?s=19
TimDunkem
11-03-2020, 10:35 AM
Sweden lost.
ElNono
11-03-2020, 10:36 AM
Sweden lost.
Death cult
TimDunkem
11-03-2020, 10:37 AM
Death cult
Sad!
hater
11-03-2020, 11:16 AM
Greece:
Non-essential flights to Thessaloniki, the Mediterranean country's second-largest city, have been suspended, with residents there only permitted to leave their homes for specific reasons and obliged to notify authorities first via text message.
Athens has also shut its restaurants, bars, cafes, gyms, and museums, although individual outdoor sports are allowed to continue. However, the Greek capital is poised for a stricter lockdown, like those introduced in Thessaloniki and Serres, depending on the rate of infection.
"We are preparing for the worst-case scenario," said government spokesman Stelios Petsas, "We are taking these measures early so that we can have a more optimistic December."
Winehole23
11-05-2020, 10:18 AM
In a sad sideshow to the COVID-19 pandemic, authorities in the Netherlands began to gas tens of thousands of mink on 6 June, most of them pups born only weeks ago. SARS-CoV-2 has attacked farms that raise the animals for fur, and the Dutch government worries infected mink could become a viral reservoir that could cause new outbreaks in humans.
The mink outbreaks are “spillover” from the human pandemic—a zoonosis in reverse that has offered scientists in the Netherlands a unique chance to study how the virus jumps between species and burns through large animal populations.
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/06/coronavirus-rips-through-dutch-mink-farms-triggering-culls-prevent-human-infections
SnakeBoy
11-05-2020, 02:18 PM
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/06/coronavirus-rips-through-dutch-mink-farms-triggering-culls-prevent-human-infections
That's old. Latest news...
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=286223&page=29&p=10322197&viewfull=1#post10322197
I've been posting info on the documented forward transmission in canines, felines, & mustelids but people don't seem to realize the importance of that
TimDunkem
11-06-2020, 12:32 PM
That's old. Latest news...
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=286223&page=29&p=10322197&viewfull=1#post10322197
I've been posting info on the documented forward transmission in canines, felines, & mustelids but people don't seem to realize the importance of that
This is important, tbh. Hopefully those 200+ people didn't get far.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/05/europe/denmark-mink-cull-coronavirus-intl-hnk-scli/index.html
SnakeBoy
11-06-2020, 12:51 PM
This is important, tbh. Hopefully those 200+ people didn't get far.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/05/europe/denmark-mink-cull-coronavirus-intl-hnk-scli/index.html
It's the second spike protein mutation in only 8 months. That's basically a guarantee that it will continue to happen. Which means that by the time President Biden* can distribute the Trump vaccine, we will need a new vaccine.
boutons_deux
11-06-2020, 03:19 PM
Trump’s Covid-19 disaster will likely get worse before Biden takes office
Biden’s victory comes too late to stop a Covid-19 surge this fall and winter.
https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/21542115/trump-biden-covid-coronavirus-election-results-transition
Nov, Dec, Jan will still have Trash worsening The Trump-Made Pandemic
500K dead by March.
2000 dead / day for 120 days = 240K Trashkill officially, with probably 100K collateral deaths.
SnakeBoy
11-06-2020, 03:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QvvMDw6YQw
RandomGuy
11-06-2020, 04:12 PM
It's the second spike protein mutation in only 8 months. That's basically a guarantee that it will continue to happen. Which means that by the time President Biden* can distribute the Trump vaccine, we will need a new vaccine.
:lol passive aggressive asterisks.
tholdren
11-06-2020, 05:21 PM
:lol passive aggressive asterisks.
A systematic review looking at the ability to culture live virus after a positive PCR test found that the probability of a false positive result increased hugely with each additional cycle after 24 cycles. After 35 cycles, none of the studies included in that review was able to culture any live virus
tholdren
11-06-2020, 05:22 PM
Usa between 40 and 45 each test. CASES!!!!!!!!!
TimDunkem
11-06-2020, 05:25 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QvvMDw6YQw
Was this good Dr quoting old numbers? I've read over 200 were found to be infected. If the number is only increasing then ruh roh.
RandomGuy
11-06-2020, 05:27 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/hhnpSxCjyXzHy/giphy.gif
tholdren
11-06-2020, 05:28 PM
A systematic review looking at the ability to culture live virus after a positive PCR test found that the probability of a false positive result increased hugely with each additional cycle after 24 cycles. After 35 cycles, none of the studies included in that review was able to culture any live virus
WrongdomGuy has no answer per usual
SnakeBoy
11-06-2020, 05:45 PM
Was this good Dr quoting old numbers? I've read over 200 were found to be infected. If the number is only increasing then ruh roh.
12 people confirmed and over 200 mink farms infected is last I heard.
WHO is downplaying the new strain as no big deal. Not a good sign given their history.
Ef-man
11-06-2020, 05:47 PM
Once again, foldren folds, so a special shout out to you!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkADj0TPrJA
12 people confirmed and over 200 mink farms infected is last I heard.
WHO is downplaying the new strain as no big deal. Not a good sign given their history.
tholdren
11-06-2020, 07:55 PM
A systematic review looking at the ability to culture live virus after a positive PCR test found that the probability of a false positive result increased hugely with each additional cycle after 24 cycles. After 35 cycles, none of the studies included in that review was able to culture any live virus
Coronabros
ElNono
11-06-2020, 09:01 PM
^ gossip
midnightpulp
11-07-2020, 03:53 AM
Urgh. Record number of infections, which is the result of more testing, but the positive rate is 9% and climbing. During the July/August wave, positive rate was around 8-9%. I won't be at all surprised if we hit 2K day deaths again. Just have to hope therapeutic treatment has continued to improve since Summer.
FrostKing
11-07-2020, 04:05 AM
Seems Covid-19 vanished overnight based on CNN's coverage.
TimDunkem
11-07-2020, 04:15 AM
^Lie.
midnightpulp
11-07-2020, 04:21 AM
Seems Covid-19 vanished overnight based on CNN's coverage.
It won't dominate the media cycle for obvious reasons, but make no mistake, we're in the worst place for Covid since the Spring.
1324891866366537728
FrostKing
11-07-2020, 04:42 AM
It won't dominate the media cycle for obvious reasons, but make no mistake, we're in the worst place for Covid since the Spring.
1324891866366537728
I understand your point. Seeing CNN transition overnight from most important issue or our time - to - watching a map with red and blue dots; illustrates how it was used for political gain. To demolish the economy and force the need for mail in ballots.
midnightpulp
11-07-2020, 05:57 AM
I understand your point. Seeing CNN transition overnight from most important issue or our time - to - watching a map with red and blue dots; illustrates how it was used for political gain. To demolish the economy and force the need for mail in ballots.
I don't agree that this was some vast Leftist media strategy to exploit the coronavirus for political gain and to harm the economy for the purpose of hurting Trump's reelection chances. The reason is because Trump was actually handed a guaranteed reelection bid on a silver platter because of the coronavirus. The whole "wartime president" concept. Look how his approval rating was closing the gap in April, when he was acting somewhat rational in his response to the crisis.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/
The problem was that Trump and his team couldn't see the forest for the trees. As the virus was raging through the Northeast and upper-Midwest and the stock market crashing, Trump panicked, stupidly believing that his best chance at reelection was going into the cycle with a record setting DOW. So he started going on tweet storms about liberating lockdown states, spinning fantasies about every church being filled on Easter, endorsing unproven therapeutics, not setting an example by wearing a mask, and host of other actions that tried to minimize the severity of the virus because he was hyper-focused on the economy and appealing to the "Freedumb" segment of his base. Polls have shown that the coronavirus is the number one issue of concern for Americans.
The opposition media didn't have to do anything to hurt Trump in this regard. He did it all himself. All he had to do was defer to experts (who have been provably correct) and wear a fuckin' mask. That's it. He does that, and MAGATs are basking in liberal tears right now watching Trump secure a second term.
spurraider21
11-07-2020, 08:51 AM
Urgh. Record number of infections, which is the result of more testing, but the positive rate is 9% and climbing. During the July/August wave, positive rate was around 8-9%. I won't be at all surprised if we hit 2K day deaths again. Just have to hope therapeutic treatment has continued to improve since Summer.
you can leave out the first half of the bolded. if you have to caveat it afterwards, you know you're just trying to play nice with the dishonest fucks :lol
pgardn
11-07-2020, 09:32 AM
It's the second spike protein mutation in only 8 months. That's basically a guarantee that it will continue to happen. Which means that by the time President Biden* can distribute the Trump vaccine, we will need a new vaccine.
this is such a horrible oversimplification.
you are assuming that a minor change in the spike protein Will render vaccines to the spike proteins useless. That’s just flat out wrong. We have no idea what part of the spike proteins your hypothetical vaccine, that does not exist yet, recognizes.
there are also vaccines that bypass the spike protein and work in a very different manner.
Foldren....
Science guy... do you sort of like this or does it not fit into your hallucinations?
add to all of this that we don’t have a widely distributed vaccine yet.
we don’t even know what kind of vaccine we will be using.
This carrying by other mammals is important, but this is taking a gigantic scare tactic leap.
Winehole23
11-07-2020, 10:52 AM
Damn, sons
The CDC declined to make Lindstrom or anyone else available for an interview and declined to discuss the unreleased internal review. A spokesman would only say that the agency had "acknowledged and corrected mistakes along the way."https://www.npr.org/2020/11/06/929078678/cdc-report-officials-knew-coronavirus-test-was-flawed-but-released-it-anyway
boutons_deux
11-07-2020, 01:57 PM
Biden plans to name coronavirus task force on Monday
From CNN's Dan Merica and Jeff Zeleny
Joe Biden plans to announce his 12-person coronavirus task force on Monday, two sources with knowledge told CNN.
The task force will reportedly be lead by three cochairs:
Former Surgeon General Vivek Murthy,
former Food and Drug Administration Commissioner David Kessler and
Yale University’s Dr. Marcella Nunez-Smith.
Some context:
The announcement, which will come just days after Biden was projected to win the presidential election,
signals how seriously he plans to focus on the coronavirus pandemic from the outset of his transition.
Biden is not expected to announce cabinet nominations for weeks and may wait until control of the Senate is clear,
the sources said.
Biden has potential people in mind for most every top position, but the announcement of coronavirus underscores the priority he intends to place on that challenge.
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-biden-election-results-11-07-20/index.html
tholdren
11-07-2020, 07:27 PM
Biden will miraculously cure covid by doing all of the things I said should have been done.
1. Lower CT on testing
2. Differentiate between of and with on hospitals
3. Differentiate between of and with death
4. Decrease testing reimbursement
....
Flu will increase.
Here comes the miracle
ElNono
11-07-2020, 07:29 PM
^ gossip.... you said two weeks. You folded and lied again.
tholdren
11-07-2020, 10:05 PM
Biden will miraculously cure covid by doing all of the things I said should have been done.
1. Lower CT on testing
2. Differentiate between of and with on hospitals
3. Differentiate between of and with death
4. Decrease testing reimbursement
....
Flu will increase.
Here comes the miracle
Elwrongwrong still sad he doesn't get it
ElNono
11-07-2020, 10:22 PM
Elwrongwrong still sad he doesn't get it
more gossip, meltdown AND fold. you hate to see it.
tholdren
11-08-2020, 01:27 AM
more gossip, meltdown AND fold. you hate to see it.
Side effects from dr prescribed medicine worse than covid.
Facts
ElNono
11-08-2020, 01:33 AM
^ gossip
tholdren
11-08-2020, 01:34 AM
Side effects from dr prescribed medicine worse than covid.
Facts
Bwahahahahhagahahahahahah
Less dangerous than flu and you believe it's dangerous and you wear a mask
ElNono
11-08-2020, 01:35 AM
Bwahahahahhagahahahahahah
Less dangerous than flu and you believe it's dangerous and you wear a mask
more gossip
tholdren
11-08-2020, 01:35 AM
Bwahahahahhagahahahahahah
Less dangerous than flu and you believe it's dangerous and you wear a mask
ElNono
11-08-2020, 01:35 AM
more gossip
tholdren
11-08-2020, 01:36 AM
Bwahahahahhagahahahahahah
Less dangerous than flu and you believe it's dangerous and you wear a mask
El wrongwrong now saying he doesn't wear a mask
Irresponsible
ElNono
11-08-2020, 01:36 AM
El wrongwrong now saying he doesn't wear a mask
Irresponsible
Gossip
tholdren
11-08-2020, 02:20 PM
El wrongwrong now saying he doesn't wear a mask
Irresponsible
Masks
Ef-man
11-08-2020, 04:06 PM
And just like trump, foldren continues being a loser who is wrong about the virus.
Sad to see it but glad he is wrong.
Wear a mask fool.
Masks
boutons_deux
11-08-2020, 04:38 PM
126K new cases in one day
tholdren
11-08-2020, 10:45 PM
126K new cases in one day
Cases are not active infection
tholdren
11-08-2020, 10:46 PM
And just like trump, foldren continues being a loser who is wrong about the virus.
Sad to see it but glad he is wrong.
Wear a mask fool.
Ifr less than flu
Mask up for colds bro!!
ElNono
11-08-2020, 10:49 PM
^ gossip
Ef-man
11-08-2020, 10:51 PM
Still in denial but always foldren always a folding.
Get a hold of yourself foldren, accept your failure.
:tu
Ifr less than flu
Mask up for colds bro!!
tholdren
11-08-2020, 10:52 PM
Ifr less than flu
Mask up for colds bro!!
Danger ifr less than flu.
Hide!!!!!!!!
Ef-man
11-08-2020, 11:05 PM
^^^^
Gossip
boutons_deux
11-10-2020, 04:58 PM
America continues to fail to care for itself
"A spike in coronavirus patients in some states is straining hospital resources ― not just beds and protective equipment, but
now staff members who are coming down with covid-19 themselves after catching it in their communities.
In a step that illustrates how dire the staffing situation has become, North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum (R) announced Monday that health-care workers who have asymptomatic cases can stay on duty (https://s2.washingtonpost.com/2ca8f8e/5fab066b9d2fda0efb630f0d/59740db3ade4e21a8493fdae/10/62/e38550bb0d5ab47cac3949357257135f).
And in Ohio, hospital executives said (https://s2.washingtonpost.com/2ca8f8f/5fab066b9d2fda0efb630f0d/59740db3ade4e21a8493fdae/11/62/e38550bb0d5ab47cac3949357257135f) they will need to at least delay some care if staffing shortages continue and possibly turn people away.
Officials urged the public to wear masks and
distance themselves to control the outbreaks in their states. :lol American love their FREEDUMB!
Andy Thomas, chief clinical officer at Ohio State Wexner Medical Center in Columbus, noted that
he was concerned about people who need non-covid care ―
those who get into car accidents or have heart attacks ―
for whom they might not have capacity in the coming weeks if current trends continue.
“We do need to make sure people are aware of how serious this is,” Thomas said."
-- WaPo email
TimDunkem
11-10-2020, 05:00 PM
El Paso sending patients to NM and bringing in 4 more mobile morgues.
folden says there are still NICU beds thus hospitals are fine.
tholdren
11-10-2020, 09:05 PM
El Paso sending patients to NM and bringing in 4 more mobile morgues.
folden says there are still NICU beds thus hospitals are fine.
LoloolkooloIkliokkkl
How many of these people dying with covid have less than 2 comorbidities?
How many have tested positive?
How many are tested at 27ct?
I will wait. You will have no answers. You aren't intelligent.
TimDunkem
11-10-2020, 09:23 PM
Didn't read lol
DarrinS
11-10-2020, 09:27 PM
El Paso sending patients to NM and bringing in 4 more mobile morgues.
folden says there are still NICU beds thus hospitals are fine.
60+ in SA hospitals
tholdren
11-10-2020, 09:27 PM
LoloolkooloIkliokkkl
How many of these people dying with covid have less than 2 comorbidities?
How many have tested positive?
How many are tested at 27ct?
I will wait. You will have no answers. You aren't intelligent.
TimDunkem so ignorant he doesn't read.
Makes sense
DarrinS
11-10-2020, 09:28 PM
Would suck to need a local ICU and they're all full with El Paso patients.
TimDunkem
11-10-2020, 09:29 PM
60+ in SA hospitals
El Paso.
Edit: Thought you were being typical smartass Darrin but there really are 60 EP patients here in SA. Smh
tholdren
11-10-2020, 09:35 PM
Sad to see people still hiding
TimDunkem
11-10-2020, 09:36 PM
Didn't read lol
tholdren
11-10-2020, 09:37 PM
Didn't read lol
Yes. Why you dont understand covid
TimDunkem
11-10-2020, 09:37 PM
Didn't read lel
tholdren
11-10-2020, 09:38 PM
Didn't read lol
Cried he had virus
TimDunkem
11-10-2020, 09:39 PM
Didn't read lol
Quote me some more. Maybe I'll read one sometime.
ElNono
11-10-2020, 09:42 PM
TimDunkem owning foldren per par :lol
TimDunkem
11-10-2020, 09:43 PM
Bwahaha f:lollden
Winehole23
11-10-2020, 10:39 PM
1326325524730408960
ChumpDumper
11-10-2020, 10:57 PM
Didn't read lolHe's laughing at the dead like the ghoul he is.
ChumpDumper
11-10-2020, 11:07 PM
Would suck to need a local ICU and they're all full with El Paso patients.Karrin actively tries to be the biggest cunt possible.
boutons_deux
11-10-2020, 11:11 PM
Plano televangelist who linked pandemic to premarital sex dies of COVID-19
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