Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

[boutons_deux]

100 NFL players tested positive in one day

[DarrinS]

Fauci pretty much said as much on CNN

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The last stage of grief is acceptance. Stop torturing yourself with covid-zero delusions.

[Winehole23]

The last stage of grief is acceptance. Stop torturing yourself with covid-zero delusions.I'm not a COVID zero guy. Short of that plenty of things can and should be done to manage the caseload, prevent sickness and death..

[Winehole23]

Masking, social distancing and rapid testing aren't "COVID zero" measures. Neither are sick pay and isolation. Neither are circuit breaker shelter in place orders, for that matter.

[DarrinS]

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[Winehole23]

Darrin thinks COVID zero means nothing should be done to prevent communicable disease.

[DarrinS]

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[Winehole23]

What's so devastating about it, Darrin?

[Winehole23]

Darrin with nothing to say, as usual

[Ef-man]

Darrin with nothing to say, as usual

Happy hour must have been extended.

[ElNono]

What's so devastating about it, Darrin?

They’ll build on top of all the R&D, vaccines, therapeutics, etc that they’ll inherit from this generation… just like we did from the ones before us… such a tragedy :jack

[Winehole23]

Three Maryland hospitals declare crisis standards of care, aka, health care rationing.

https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2021/12/27/university-of-maryland-baltimore-washington-medical-center-declares-crisis-standards-of-care/

[DarrinS]

May omicron spread far and wide.

[Winehole23]

May omicron spread far and wide.No need for the subjunctive, present indicative fits

[Winehole23]

Fucking ghoul

[DarrinS]

Fucking ghoul

:cry

[Winehole23]

You are, man. You're a COVID cheerleader at this point.

:cheer

[DarrinS]

You are, man. You're a COVID cheerleader at this point.

:cheer


Yes, I'm cheering for omicron, as it displaces a much more dangerous delta.


Pandemic of the obese. Did you get your ten miles in today, Lance? :lmao

[hater]

May omicron spread far and wide.

Yup

Our only cchance

Florida doing our job here :lmao

[hater]

You are, man. You're a COVID cheerleader at this point.

:cheer

You cheerleaded for mass children deaths at schools all year long, nancy


Thank God you were dead wrong and schools are fine :tu

Cheers :tu

[Winehole23]

Yes, I'm cheering for omicron.Dumbass


Pandemic of the obese. I'm more worried I'd give it to a careless person like you.

[Winehole23]

"the worst thing that could happen is staffing shortages or that DarrinS might be personally inconvenienced by having to mask up occasionally."

https://lifevsfilm.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/010-metropolis-theredlist.jpg

[DarrinS]

Dumbass

I'm more worried I'd give it to a careless person like you.


I'm trying to get it. No luck yet.

[SnakeBoy]

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Better late than never I guess

[Winehole23]

I'm trying to get it. No luck yet.Good luck, sounds risky.

[DarrinS]

Good luck, sounds risky.

Already had the risky OG variant.

[Winehole23]

Already had the risky OG variant.from what I've heard, natural immunity to that is even less effective than the jab. even with the jab, mild cases can have chronic, life-altering consequences.

[DarrinS]

from what I've heard, natural immunity to that is even less effective than the jab.

Had both

[Winehole23]

Had bothgood luck.

getting it on purpose is a dick move, BTW. you might give it to someone else unwittingly. maybe even someone you care about.

[Winehole23]

but hey, nbd since you aren't them.

[Winehole23]

What do you think of COVID causing hospitals to ration care, Darrin?

We're toward the beginning of the spike. It's going to get worse before it gets better. Even if the disease progression is milder, gross mortality could be worse than this year's peak. Infectiousness counts too. Omicron might be as contagious as measles.

[Winehole23]

Waiting for "hospitalization and death don't count anymore, because Omicron is a magic Easter egg"

All hail Omicron

http://thedonaldstreetcollective.weebly.com/uploads/2/3/8/4/23849300/70285_orig.jpg

[Winehole23]

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[DarrinS]

Live with it. No other choice.

Thanks Wuhan lab

[Winehole23]

:lmao

[Winehole23]

If live with it means do nothing, that's bullshit. There's plenty we can do to hinder transmission.

[Winehole23]

Whiny selfish babies like you won't do it, because aversion to mild personal inconvenience trumps all. Even mass death and wrecked hospitals.

[Winehole23]

I give it about a month til most of you COVID cheerleaders start whining that Joe Biden didn't do more to protect us. Some of you already are.

[DarrinS]

This dude is just talking to himself now. :lol

[Winehole23]

This dude is just talking to himself now. :lolTalking to you, you read and responded. You got nothing to say on point and ducked a direct question, as usual.

[ChumpDumper]

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Better late than never I guess

Other people's children important now....

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

Other people's children important now....Only if the alleged damage is psychic and unmeasurable. Spreading disease and death doesn't count, only the blessing of eventual, hypothetical immunity does.

[DMC]

This dude is just talking to himself now. :lol

Seems like an anxiety disorder.

[DMC]

If live with it means do nothing, that's bullshit. There's plenty we can do to hinder transmission.

What are you doing about it? Oh that's right, you're sequestering.

[Thread]

Whiny selfish babies like you won't do it, because aversion to mild personal inconvenience trumps all. Even mass death and wrecked hospitals.

You loved ALL that wreckage when you was countin' coup on President Trump though.

Let us proceed...

[Thread]

I give it about a month til most of you COVID cheerleaders start whining that Joe Biden didn't do more to protect us. Some of you already are.

All he had to do was "shut it down." Instead he baited & hustled race on day 1, gonna have the time of his life. Uh, uh.

He's getting precisely what he deserves. His regrets are his own. I've no sympathy for him.

Let us proceed...

[Winehole23]

What are you doing about it? Oh that's right, you're sequestering.Personal choice is by far inferior to systematic public health to produce population-level effects, but I'm doing what I can. Masking up and social distancing, mainly, I wouldn't call that a sequester.

If I had continuous access to rapid tests I'd test more often, my workplace is on the riskier side and my wife has two known comorbidities.

[Winehole23]

The death panel for monoclonal antibody treatment in Minnesota will be a weighted lottery system.

Rules got updated two days before Christmas.


Stage 2: MNRAP’s instant-read weighted lotteryapproachIf medication inventory or infusion/injection appointments for mAbs are in scarcity (as defined above) and theclinical prioritization strategy described above is insufficient to ameliorate the issue (i.e., if supply is too scarceto allow allocation to all patients with MASSBP=4 or higher), the resource will be allocated to patients 18 yearsof age and older via a weighted lottery mechanism, using the centralized MNRAP screening website managed byMDHhttps://www.health.state.mn.us/diseases/coronavirus/hcp/mabethical.pdf

[Blake]

May omicron spread far and wide.

Because your zip code is ok

[Winehole23]

Seems like an anxiety disorder.Odd, I'm not feeling anxious.

[Winehole23]

Announcements like this don't happen unless the situation is pretty bad. Banner is proactively covering its ass.

"We warned you"


Arizona's largest hospital network warned Tuesday that it might have to cut back on care in mid-January, as patient counts hit their highest level of the almost 2-year-old pandemic.



"If our continued forecast holds true, we will be in a position where we will be unable to meet the care needs of all of Arizonans," Dr. Marjorie Bessel, Phoenix-based Banner (https://www.bannerhealth.com/)'s chief clinical officer, said at a virtual news conference with reporters.


"We do not want to get there. You do not want us to get there."



In that scenario, Banner would shift to "crisis standards of care," Bessel said. The chain's 18 hospitals could decide who gets the care and who gets a bed.



The hospitals are currently operating under a "contingency level of care."



"We're not at our normal operations," Bessel said. "It means things like we might be doing less documentation than we previously do. It means things like we may be having staff working different types of units that they don't normally work in."

https://www.12news.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/banner-health-cuts-in-care-patient-count-pandemic-high/75-452a1781-5178-4659-b76f-03ac707fabef

[Thread]

Announcements like this don't happen unless the situation is pretty bad. Banner is proactively covering its ass.

"We warned you"

https://www.12news.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/banner-health-cuts-in-care-patient-count-pandemic-high/75-452a1781-5178-4659-b76f-03ac707fabef

BLUE state Arizona.

Let us proceed...

[MultiTroll]

Announcements like this don't happen unless the situation is pretty bad. Banner is proactively covering its ass.

"We warned you"

https://www.12news.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/banner-health-cuts-in-care-patient-count-pandemic-high/75-452a1781-5178-4659-b76f-03ac707fabef


BLUE state Arizona.

Let us proceed...
I'm all for the movement that unvaxxed phat phucks go to the back of the line.
Do not get to steal a bed in front of law abiding, fit, mask wearing citizen.

Lettuce proceed.

[CosmicCowboy]

interesting theory...I have been moderately sick for 8 days now feeling like shit...started with on/off fever first few days, body aches, scratchy throat, sinus drainage, sneezing, "tired" etc. Sounds just like Omicron, right? Except I tested negative. Almost all of those symptoms are "immune response" symptoms. Seems like I'm not the only one this is happening to. One theory is that the mRNA vaccines are making our bodies hyper sensitive to any viral exposure and our immune system is automatically going to Defcon 1 with exposure even to common colds.

[Winehole23]

interesting theory...I have been moderately sick for 8 days now feeling like shit...started with on/off fever first few days, body aches, scratchy throat, sinus drainage, sneezing, "tired" etc. Sounds just like Omicron, right? Except I tested negative. Almost all of those symptoms are "immune response" symptoms. Seems like I'm not the only one this is happening to. One theory is that the mRNA vaccines are making our bodies hyper sensitive to any viral exposure and our immune system is automatically going to Defcon 1 with exposure even to common colds.is this your own theory?

if not, please share your source

[Winehole23]

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[baseline bum]

Announcements like this don't happen unless the situation is pretty bad. Banner is proactively covering its ass.

"We warned you"

https://www.12news.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/banner-health-cuts-in-care-patient-count-pandemic-high/75-452a1781-5178-4659-b76f-03ac707fabef

Really need to start putting antivaxxers at the end of the line since they're the ones causing this.

[Thread]

I'm all for the movement that unvaxxed phat phucks go to the back of the line.
Do not get to steal a bed in front of law abiding, fit, mask wearing citizen.

Lettuce proceed.

We'll see what happens when that is actually attempted, Mult instead of just threatened on a CNN/MSNBC dais.

[Thread]

Really need to start putting antivaxxers at the end of the line since they're the ones causing this.

- "Promises, promises."

- Ernie "The Cat" Ladd

[CosmicCowboy]

is this your own theory?

if not, please share your source

I am quoting from an article in National Review.


*In the last week or so, I heard about a ton of friends and acquaintances who felt really sick really quickly, were absolutely convinced they had Covid-19, scrambled to find a test, and then to their surprise tested negative. One possibility is that because of the vaccinations, some people’s bodies are now really ready to react to any pathogen, and so they’re responding to the common cold or the usual bugs with more intense defenses — more post-nasal drip, higher elevations of body temperature, more coughing, more sneezing, etc. Another possibility is that the mask-wearing and social distancing of 2020 that almost wiped out the usual flu season gave our bodies less practice of fighting off pathogens, and so that now that we’re encountering the usual winter bugs and colds again, our immune systems are jumping to Defcon One.

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Joe, loitering the panic button. Ain't as easy as hustlin' race, by God.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

is this your own theory?

if not, please share your source

Again anecdotal...I've never had body aches and chills from a common cold before in my life. Always thought people who said that were pussies :lol
Happened for the first time this year. I'm vaxxed and boosted.
Cough, congestion, hacking, normal URI shit I get once a year but this time I had aches and chills, never any fever tho. Didn't spread shit to anyone around me. Eerie.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

I am quoting from an article in National Review.

National Review haha
Personally I think it's the latter. The colds are just gettin us stronger bc we're not breathing all over each other in one glorious cold ecosystem lol

[Winehole23]

I am quoting from an article in National Review.thanks :tu

[Cuck Ross]

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[Winehole23]

Yeah, except boosters rarely cause disease, hence the scare quotes

[Thread]

National Review haha
Personally I think it's the latter. The colds are just gettin us stronger bc we're not breathing all over each other in one glorious cold ecosystem lol

440,000/& counting dead of the COVID by MF Biden good now.

[baseline bum]

interesting theory...I have been moderately sick for 8 days now feeling like shit...started with on/off fever first few days, body aches, scratchy throat, sinus drainage, sneezing, "tired" etc. Sounds just like Omicron, right? Except I tested negative. Almost all of those symptoms are "immune response" symptoms. Seems like I'm not the only one this is happening to. One theory is that the mRNA vaccines are making our bodies hyper sensitive to any viral exposure and our immune system is automatically going to Defcon 1 with exposure even to common colds.

You don't think it's cedar pollen? That shit has been really high for a couple of weeks.

[hater]

Glad I stayed away from mrna ma nigs




Cheers :tu

[CosmicCowboy]

You don't think it's cedar pollen? That shit has been really high for a couple of weeks.

I'm somewhat bothered by cedar, and could understand the runny nose and sneezing, but I have neve had fever, the body aches and over all "tired" symptoms with cedar allergies.

[Winehole23]

I'm somewhat bothered by cedar, and could understand the runny nose and sneezing, but I have neve had fever, the body aches and over all "tired" symptoms with cedar allergies.I have.

[Winehole23]

Biden did not deliver on any of this, now there's nothing the federal government can do except loosen CDC guidelines.

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[Winehole23]

You don't think it's cedar pollen? That shit has been really high for a couple of weeks.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHkQfV7XEAErzRv?format=jpg&name=small

[baseline bum]

I'm somewhat bothered by cedar, and could understand the runny nose and sneezing, but I have neve had fever, the body aches and over all "tired" symptoms with cedar allergies.

My dad has had all of them from it. I myself haven't had fever or body aches but definitely have had the tired symptoms from it before. It's one of the most annoying things about December through mid February here, that cedar pollen allergies and light COVID have a lot of similar symptoms.

[Winehole23]

German COVID pass strongly correlated with a drop in cases

It's more of a lockout than a lockdown.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHlyqv2VgAI2kof?format=jpg&name=large

[Blake]

interesting theory...I have been moderately sick for 8 days now feeling like shit...started with on/off fever first few days, body aches, scratchy throat, sinus drainage, sneezing, "tired" etc. Sounds just like Omicron, right? Except I tested negative. Almost all of those symptoms are "immune response" symptoms. Seems like I'm not the only one this is happening to. One theory is that the mRNA vaccines are making our bodies hyper sensitive to any viral exposure and our immune system is automatically going to Defcon 1 with exposure even to common colds.

Sounds like flu

[Thread]

My dad has had all of them from it. I myself haven't had fever or body aches but definitely have had the tired symptoms from it before. It's one of the most annoying things about December through mid February here, that cedar pollen allergies and light COVID have a lot of similar symptoms.

You've been sucking too much cock, bum.

[SpursforSix]

I am quoting from an article in National Review.



I mean...you confidently said that "cows don't fart". Forgive me if I doubt your expertise in analyzing contagious viruses.

[pgardn]

I am quoting from an article in National Review.

The mRNA vaccines are very specific so its seems this quote (National review) seems misguided.
Unless a lot of other viruses and other protein associated invasions contain some "spot(s)" exactly like on the spike protein or very close to it.
These mRNA vaccines are the most specific we have ever made.

And as a sidebar to what some people are experiencing, there are others who wear masks and are vaccinated experiencing no colds and have not been sick from a virus and other bugs for an unusually long period of time.

[Thread]

Biden did not deliver on any of this, now there's nothing the federal government can do except loosen CDC guidelines.

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We already hired all those people back in March of '20. Issued 'em all a new suit, two pair a pants, a refurbished/almost new laptop by Milton Bradley and ground rules for (dress down Friday's.)

[baseline bum]

You've been sucking too much cock, bum.

You speaking from experience, cubby?

[Thread]

You speaking from experience, cubby?

Uh, uh, uh,,,,,,,,,they were selling your shit!!!

[pgardn]

You speaking from experience, cubby?

Definitely.
He has Trump junk memorized.

[rjv]

I am quoting from an article in National Review.

in all my years in the medical field, or my brother's years working as a biochemist in R&D, i can't tell you just how much we rely on anecdotal evidence from political magazines as the primary steering mechanism for the scientific method.

[boutons_deux]

Fox News reports Covid-19 is both 'raging out of control' and 'good for society'


https://www.rawstory.com/media-library/will-cain-and-kayleigh-mcenany.jpg?id=28337953&width=800&height=450


McEnany was hosting Fox & Friends when co-host Will Cain argued that the current surge in Covid-19 cases is "good for society."

https://www.rawstory.com/fox-news-omicron

[boutons_deux]

Confederate/red states "nullifying" the US military

Pentagon goes on offense vs GOP on vaccine mandates

Oklahoma Gov. Kevin Stitt (R) tipped off the battle over who calls the shots in enforcing the requirement for National Guardsmen.

Now, with Texas becoming the seventh state to declare they will not impose the mandate on their National Guard,

the Pentagon is grappling with how to make sure its mandate is followed and how to prevent further states from piling on and resisting it.

“The only thing I would say is what I've said before — the vaccine is a valid military readiness requirement. It remains such.”

Republican lawmakers have repeatedly called for the department to rescind the requirement, arguing or backing a range of claims,

including Stitt’s stance that the mandate is unconstitutional and will hurt national security. :lol fuck shithole OK

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/587414-pentagon-goes-on-offense-vs-gop-on-vaccine-mandates

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Officials: Nearly 25% of Navy warship crew has COVID-19

A U.S. Navy warship remains in port at Naval Station Guantanamo Bay in Cuba,

with about two dozen sailors — or nearly a quarter of its crew — testing positive for COVID-19, according to U.S. defense officials

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/officials-25-navy-warship-crew-covid-19-81958980

[SnakeBoy]

I'm somewhat bothered by cedar, and could understand the runny nose and sneezing, but I have neve had fever, the body aches and over all "tired" symptoms with cedar allergies.

Sounds like influenza. It's back this year and the strain circulating this year is different than what they put in the vaccine.

Almost everybody I know, including myself, has had a non-covid cold or flu in the last month. There's a ton of virus circulating right now.

[Thread]

Fox News reports Covid-19 is both 'raging out of control' and 'good for society'


https://www.rawstory.com/media-library/will-cain-and-kayleigh-mcenany.jpg?id=28337953&width=800&height=450


McEnany was hosting Fox & Friends when co-host Will Cain argued that the current surge in Covid-19 cases is "good for society."

https://www.rawstory.com/fox-news-omicron

Your side thought it (good) as well when it was being toted upon President Trump's side of the DEATH LEDGER. I saw ya's. I said then:::"Dale." "Dale" I said..."If you ever get the chance, God forbid, but if you do, leave a score among them, buddy-boy."

Let us proceed...

[Thread]

Confederate/red states "nullifying" the US military

Pentagon goes on offense vs GOP on vaccine mandates

Oklahoma Gov. Kevin Stitt (R) tipped off the battle over who calls the shots in enforcing the requirement for National Guardsmen.

Now, with Texas becoming the seventh state to declare they will not impose the mandate on their National Guard,

the Pentagon is grappling with how to make sure its mandate is followed and how to prevent further states from piling on and resisting it.

“The only thing I would say is what I've said before — the vaccine is a valid military readiness requirement. It remains such.”

Republican lawmakers have repeatedly called for the department to rescind the requirement, arguing or backing a range of claims,

including Stitt’s stance that the mandate is unconstitutional and will hurt national security. :lol fuck shithole OK

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/587414-pentagon-goes-on-offense-vs-gop-on-vaccine-mandates

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Officials: Nearly 25% of Navy warship crew has COVID-19

A U.S. Navy warship remains in port at Naval Station Guantanamo Bay in Cuba,

with about two dozen sailors — or nearly a quarter of its crew — testing positive for COVID-19, according to U.S. defense officials

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/officials-25-navy-warship-crew-covid-19-81958980

The chickens have come home to roost, bouts.

ha, ha.

[SnakeBoy]

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[SnakeBoy]

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They'll stick some nobody in that seat tonight..."Rachel is off tonight. We have new reporting on the January 6th Insurrection!"

[Cuck Ross]

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[spurraider21]

Live with it. No other choice.

Thanks Wuhan lab
lets assume your premise is true.

- china launches missile at the US
- should we launch any countermeasures?
- no. its all china's fault anyway

is this a rational approach to you?

[SnakeBoy]

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It has always been the case that vaccines do not prevent infection. I can understand Gates/Maddow etc. not understanding immunology well enough to know what this vaccine could/could not do. People like Fauci and Walensky certainly knew better but I think they believed their little white lie would encourage people to get vaccinated. It did just the opposite and gave the anti-vax peddlers more ammunition. They should have just told the truth about this virus and the vaccines and we would have higher vaccination rates imo.

[Thread]

It has always been the case that vaccines do not prevent infection. I can understand Gates/Maddow etc. not understanding immunology well enough to know what this vaccine could/could not do. People like Fauci and Walensky certainly knew better but I think they believed their little white lie would encourage people to get vaccinated. It did just the opposite and gave the anti-vax peddlers more ammunition. They should have just told the truth about this virus and the vaccines and we would have higher vaccination rates imo.

Snake, testifyin' of a Tuesday afternoon post Xmas.

Snake

[spurraider21]

It has always been the case that vaccines do not prevent infection. I can understand Gates/Maddow etc. not understanding immunology well enough to know what this vaccine could/could not do. People like Fauci and Walensky certainly knew better but I think they believed their little white lie would encourage people to get vaccinated. It did just the opposite and gave the anti-vax peddlers more ammunition. They should have just told the truth about this virus and the vaccines and we would have higher vaccination rates imo.
you've been sharing this lie nonstop though...

Latest CDC data by vaccine status:

Unvaccinated: 451 cases per 100k
Vaccinated: 134 cases per 100k
Boosted: 48 cases per 100k

Unvaccinated: 6.1 deaths per 100k
Vaccinated: 0.5 deaths per 100k
Boosted: 0.1 deaths per 100k

[hater]

you've been sharing this lie nonstop though...

Latest CDC data by vaccine status:

Unvaccinated: 451 cases per 100k
Vaccinated: 134 cases per 100k
Boosted: 48 cases per 100k

Unvaccinated: 6.1 deaths per 100k
Vaccinated: 0.5 deaths per 100k
Boosted: 0.1 deaths per 100k


Damn thats q lot of dead vaccinated :wow

What a shit "vaccine"

[spurraider21]

that data is from april 2021 thru november 2021, fyi

[spurraider21]

Damn thats q lot of dead vaccinated :wow

What a shit "vaccine"
makes death 12x less likely :wow

based vaccine :worthy:
warp speed :worthy:

[hater]

:lmao CDC

:lol


Only 22.5% of US Covid-19 infections recorded in the week that ended on December 18 were linked to Omicron, rather than the 73.2% estimate that was announced last week, the CDC said on Tuesday. It also revealed that the new strain accounted for 58.6% of new cases in the week that ended on December 25, while almost all other infections were caused by the Delta variant.

The CDC attributed its huge miss on last week’s report – which triggered dramatic headlines about the variant’s lightning-fast spread – to new data becoming available. ABC News referred to Tuesday’s revised figure on Omicron cases as “noticeably lower.”


"Follow da science" :lmao :lol :lmao

[hater]

makes death 12x less likely :wow

based vaccine :worthy:
warp speed :worthy:

Crazy how many vaxed and boosted still getting sick :wow

:lmao "the vacvine works"

:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

What are Trumptards actually complaining about now?

The vaccines are still working.

Where was their critical zeal during the entirety of the Trump administration?

[ChumpDumper]

Crazy how many vaxed and boosted still getting sick :wow

:lmao "the vacvine works"

:lmao

Given the choice of being 12x less likely to die or not -- which would you choose?

Be honest.

[Thread]

What are Trumptards actually complaining about now?

The vaccines are still working.

Where was their critical zeal during the entirety of the Trump administration?

You had that con, Dumps. You dished it. We took it.

Now it's your turn to take it.

[Thread]

:lmao CDC

:lol


Only 22.5% of US Covid-19 infections recorded in the week that ended on December 18 were linked to Omicron, rather than the 73.2% estimate that was announced last week, the CDC said on Tuesday. It also revealed that the new strain accounted for 58.6% of new cases in the week that ended on December 25, while almost all other infections were caused by the Delta variant.

The CDC attributed its huge miss on last week’s report – which triggered dramatic headlines about the variant’s lightning-fast spread – to new data becoming available. ABC News referred to Tuesday’s revised figure on Omicron cases as “noticeably lower.”


"Follow da science" :lmao :lol :lmao

Tell it, hater.

Testify!!!

[Ef-man]

It has always been the case that vaccines do not prevent infection. I can understand Gates/Maddow etc. not understanding immunology well enough to know what this vaccine could/could not do. People like Fauci and Walensky certainly knew better but I think they believed their little white lie would encourage people to get vaccinated. It did just the opposite and gave the anti-vax peddlers more ammunition. They should have just told the truth about this virus and the vaccines and we would have higher vaccination rates imo.

So trump bad now for downplaying and withholding vaccine information/truth?

Cubby is going to call you a RINO. :lol

[spurraider21]

Crazy how many vaxed and boosted still getting sick :wow

:lmao "the vacvine works"

:lmao
10x less likely to get sick if boosted
12x less likely to die

vaccines :worthy:

[SnakeBoy]

that data is from april 2021 thru november 2021, fyi

"Lies, damned lies, and statistics" - attributed to Mark Twain

Circulating antibodies will always come down. Virus is never going away, and everybody is getting infected repeatedly.

bu bu but look I have some data for a specific date range hur dee hur

[hater]

"Lies, damned lies, and statistics" - attributed to Mark Twain

Circulating antibodies will always come down. Virus is never going away, and everybody is getting infected repeatedly.

bu bu but look I have some data for a specific date range hur dee hur

:lmao

"If you get this shot you wojt get vovid" - josephine biden

[ChumpDumper]

"Lies, damned lies, and statistics" - attributed to Mark Twain

Circulating antibodies will always come down. Virus is never going away, and everybody is getting infected repeatedly.

bu bu but look I have some data for a specific date range hur dee hur
:lol triple vaxxed antivaxxer

[DMC]

:lmao CDC

:lol


Only 22.5% of US Covid-19 infections recorded in the week that ended on December 18 were linked to Omicron, rather than the 73.2% estimate that was announced last week, the CDC said on Tuesday. It also revealed that the new strain accounted for 58.6% of new cases in the week that ended on December 25, while almost all other infections were caused by the Delta variant.

The CDC attributed its huge miss on last week’s report – which triggered dramatic headlines about the variant’s lightning-fast spread – to new data becoming available. ABC News referred to Tuesday’s revised figure on Omicron cases as “noticeably lower.”


"Follow da science" :lmao :lol :lmao

I attribute my mistakes to the new data available that didn't exist then, so how did data now go back in time to cause me to make that mistake? We'll know when the new-new data comes out.

[rjv]

the premise that x does not work because it has y amount of failures is a slippery slope. we could say this about an almost infinite amount of drugs and products. the question really becomes defining the standard or threshold for what would be considered successful. it also begs the question (to which many often answer frivolously and without any justification) as to what the reason for failure would be.

[DMC]

You've been sucking too much cock, bum.

:lol

[DMC]

lets assume your premise is true.

- china launches missile at the US
- should we launch any countermeasures?
- no. its all china's fault anyway

is this a rational approach to you?

So we should release a virus into China.

[boutons_deux]

Anti-vaxx Chronicles:

'Purebloods' aren't seeing the results they expected

Wendy Rogers is that Arizona :lol state senator who is quite possibly the most Q of all the Q elected Republicans, a champion of the Big Lie, and all around nutbag (https://www.newsweek.com/arizona-gop-senator-wendy-rogers-praises-qanon-podcast-host-pushing-election-fraud-claims-1661076). On her Telegram account, she posted, “You don’t see too many pure bloods getting COVID anymore.”

So imagine thinking that “pure bloods” are somehow avoiding the pandemic.

imagine using the words “pure bloods” either ignorant of or unconcerned about its historical connotations.

https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2021/12/26/1932707/-Anti-vaxx-Chronicles-Purebloods-aren-t-seeing-the-results-they-expected

===================

Unvaccinated people are declaring themselves ‘Purebloods’

proclaimed themselves “Purebloods” in a campaign of biological supremacy against those who received the COVID-19 vaccine.


“From now on, I refuse to be referred to as ‘unvaccinated,’” said conservative influencer Lyndsey Marie (https://www.tiktok.com/@pb_lyndsey00marie/video/7005739387799588102) in a post last week.

“I want everyone to now call me Pureblood.”

Her hashtags included #harrypotter, #pureblood and #unvaccinated.

https://nypost.com/2021/09/16/the-unvaccinated-are-declaring-themselves-purebloods/

[spurraider21]

So we should release a virus into China.
probably not

[SnakeBoy]

CBS Edits Out Own Reporter SLAMMING School Closures Causing Mental Health Crisis
https://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/curtis-houck/2021/12/27/cbs-edits-out-own-reporter-slamming-school-closures-causing-mental

[ChumpDumper]

SnakeBoy feigning concern for other people's kids again.

[SnakeBoy]

74% of hospital admissions in England are vaccinated
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10350161/Covid-19-UK-40-Omicron-hospitalisations-unvaccinated-adults-officials-finally-reveal.html

[boutons_deux]

"U.S. sets daily COVID-19 infection record

The U.S. on Tuesday set a single-day record of new COVID-19 infections, with 441,278 new cases,

according to the Centers for Disease Control and Infection.


The numbers surpass the previous high of about 290,000 cases reported Dec. 20.

That nearly passed the previous daily record of 294,015 set last January, before vaccines were widely available."

[ElNono]

1475193955704881152

Is that a man or a woman?

[ElNono]

10x less likely to get sick if boosted
12x less likely to die

vaccines :worthy:

Fauci

[SnakeBoy]

NYPD rounding up blacks for having dinner


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV3YUHGrxJ4&t=115s

[boutons_deux]

"Sick madness":

The public reacts to the CDC's decision to cut COVID-19 self-isolation time in half

The reasoning behind these modifications are rooted in economics perhaps more than science. Dr. Anthony Fauci — director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and one of President Biden's chief science advisers — recently told CNN's Jim Acosta (https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/27/health/cdc-covid-quarantine-isolation-shortened-recommendation/index.html) that

"we want to get people back to the jobs, particularly the essential jobs, to keep society running smoothly."

studies show wide variations (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/27/health/omicron-cdc.html) in how long people will remain contagious after developing COVID-19.

Some even wonder whether pressure from airline CEOs,

who worry that long self-isolation periods hurt their bottom line, could have motivated the CDC.

The CDC did not simply impose a blanket reduction in self-quarantining time for infected individuals.

The agency added that the rule only applies to people who do not exhibit symptoms and

are willing to wear a mask around others for at least five days after leaving isolation.

The agency also revised its self-quarantining guidelines (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/your-health/quarantine-isolation.html#closecontact) for people who have merely been exposed to the virus;

partially vaccinated individuals are now asked to either isolate for five days and

then wear a mask around others for another five days, or

to wear a mask for all 10 days (if self-quarantining is not feasible).

"It's been glaringly obvious many of the CDC's recommendations are tied to [political] and economic concerns,

leaving the public confused/second guessing advice about masks, protocols, vaccines

while the anti-science sect sticks to singular (and horribly incorrect) messaging,"

"it will go down in the annals of the pandemic as a terrible horrible no good very bad politically/business-influenced decision that will endanger millions and squander public health trust!"

"Congrats to the Airline CEOs on being appointed head of @CDCgov,"

people who suspect the CDC is motivated by capitalism have good reason for doing so.

"In both Europe and the US, employers have frequently worked against [COVID-19] policies perceived by them to threaten profits,"

New Zealand and the People's Republic of China, where the influence of business interests was limited by institutions committed to other social priorities (such as unions, left-wing parties and so on), they were better prepared to cope with the disease.

"I have pointed out repeatedly that countries that are best at containing the pandemic have a mandatory isolation policy of anybody who is exposed for two weeks — anybody who is exposed, much less infected,"

"If you're infected, you are isolated for a minimum of two weeks and sometimes three weeks.

So we are exceptional, and I think this is a grave mistake because the data that I've seen suggests that people who are either exposed or infected may be continually infectious for at least two weeks and possibly three.

This is a serious mistake."

It's getting hospital workers back to work.

And I think it's particularly dangerous thing for them personally, because they may suffer health consequences, and

they still may be infectious for their patients and their families.

So I think it's a big mistake."

https://www.salon.com/2021/12/28/sick-madness-the-public-reacts-to-the-cdcs-decision-to-cut-19-self-isolation-time-in-half/

[CosmicCowboy]

NIH now says at home tests may not work on omicron.

[SnakeBoy]

NIH now says at home tests may not work on omicron.

Maybe I just had my omicron boost then

[SnakeBoy]

I wish there was a fully quantitative antibody test available so I could check. Quest & Labcorp only offer the shitty antibody tests that Uncle Sam pays for.

[boutons_deux]

Kidney Damage As A Result Of Coronavirus Infection

https://scienceblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Kidney-damage-as-a-result-of-coronavirus-infection-.png

The developed scar tissue in the infected kidneys may suggest a possible impact on kidney outcomes in the long term.

https://scienceblog.com/527491/kidney-damage-as-a-result-of-coronavirus-infection

and we don't know yet if mild omicron produces long covid, like mild delta does

[SnakeBoy]

https://i.imgur.com/FWyknEZ.jpeg

[hater]

74% of hospital admissions in England are vaccinated
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10350161/Covid-19-UK-40-Omicron-hospitalisations-unvaccinated-adults-officials-finally-reveal.html

Thats a lie

Joe said if you get the shot you wont get it.

:cry

[SnakeBoy]

1471886835152560130

[SnakeBoy]

1475624398384242691

https://i.imgur.com/zZLLGMG.png

[spurraider21]

https://i.imgur.com/FWyknEZ.jpeg
did we criminalize drunk driving because people only like to get hit by sober drivers?

[SnakeBoy]

Fully vaccinated John Madden has died

RIP

[CosmicCowboy]

did we criminalize drunk driving because people only like to get hit by sober drivers?

Terrible analogy. Doesn't even make sense.

[pgardn]

https://i.imgur.com/FWyknEZ.jpeg


1471886835152560130

RT level propaganda...

[SnakeBoy]

did we criminalize drunk driving because people only like to get hit by sober drivers?

I've been collecting data for the past hour. It appears the sun no longer exists.

[pgardn]

Thats a lie

Joe said if you get the shot you wont get it.

:cry

Joe said everyone has an immune system that responds appropriately to vaccines?

[pgardn]

I've been collecting data for the past hour. It appears the sun no longer exists.

Great.
I guess that’s why it’s getting so cold.
When will we be beyond Jupiter’s orbit? Using your quick calculations...

[CosmicCowboy]

I've been collecting data for the past hour. It appears the sun no longer exists.

:lol

[hater]

Fully vaccinated John Madden has died

RIP

Covid?

[SnakeBoy]

Covid?

Idk

[pgardn]

Covid?

Oh you are praying it’s so.
He was 85, must have been right Hater.
Probobably caught it on an airplane, eh?

[DarrinS]

Fully vaccinated John Madden has died

RIP


Just watched the documentary about him. Its amazing he lived as long as he did.

[DarrinS]

Oh you are praying it’s so.
He was 85, must have been right Hater.
Probobably caught it on an airplane, eh?

He didn't fly.

[pgardn]

He didn't fly.

Well thanks for ruining my primitive Hater trap...

[spurraider21]

Terrible analogy. Doesn't even make sense.
makes a lot of sense, actually

sober drivers (vaccinated folk) and drunk drivers (unvaccinated) can both cause fatal accidents (spread covid). hell, its even possible for a sober driver to kill another sober driver (a vaccinated person can transmit covid to another vaccinated person)

but we dont accept drunk driving because it elevates the risk of fatal accidents (unvaccinated people are more likely to have and thereby spread covid)

we still accept some baseline level of risk that even sober drivers can cause accidents (vaccinated people can have and thereby spread covid)

[DarrinS]

makes a lot of sense, actually

sober drivers (vaccinated folk) and drunk drivers (unvaccinated) can both cause fatal accidents (spread covid). hell, its even possible for a sober driver to kill another sober driver (a vaccinated person can transmit covid to another vaccinated person)

but we dont accept drunk driving because it elevates the risk of fatal accidents (unvaccinated people are more likely to have and thereby spread covid)

we still accept some baseline level of risk that even sober drivers can cause accidents (vaccinated people can have and thereby spread covid)


Nope, still a terrible analogy.

[spurraider21]

I've been collecting data for the past hour. It appears the sun no longer exists.
we already knew you were incapable of holding a conversation

[spurraider21]

Nope, still a terrible analogy.
which premise doesn't work?

do you accept that driving drunk elevates risk of accidents?
do you accept that being unvaccinated elevates the risk of contracting covid?

[SnakeBoy]

we already knew you were incapable of holding a conversation

24 more minutes of data confirms, it's gone, the sun is gone.

[pgardn]

makes a lot of sense, actually

sober drivers (vaccinated folk) and drunk drivers (unvaccinated) can both cause fatal accidents (spread covid). hell, its even possible for a sober driver to kill another sober driver (a vaccinated person can transmit covid to another vaccinated person)

but we dont accept drunk driving because it elevates the risk of fatal accidents (unvaccinated people are more likely to have and thereby spread covid)

we still accept some baseline level of risk that even sober drivers can cause accidents (vaccinated people can have and thereby spread covid)

And driving drunk or sober is the driver's choice.

But if you have to explain every detail, it was never going to work with some folks.
imo it was understood and fine. Especially compared to others on this site.

[pgardn]

24 more minutes of data confirms, it's gone, the sun is gone.

So like, how far beyond are normal orbit are we about now?
And now the sun cant be blamed for global warming, do you have any idea what fix you put the red team in?

[DarrinS]

which premise doesn't work?

do you accept that driving drunk elevates risk of accidents?
do you accept that being unvaccinated elevates the risk of contracting covid?


I think a better one would be the unvaccinated are like drivers not wearing seatbelts.

As a vaccinated person, I'm not worried about what an unvaccinated person can do to me anymore than I am what a vaccinated person can do to me. The vaccine doesn't provide sterilizing immunity, so the vaccine is to protect the individual.

[pgardn]

I think a better one would be the unvaccinated are like drivers not wearing seatbelts.

As a vaccinated person, I'm not worried about what an unvaccinated person can do to me anymore than I am what a vaccinated person can do to me. The vaccine doesn't provide sterilizing immunity, so the vaccine is to protect the individual.

The vaccine prevents most from getting the symptoms (called getting THE DISEASE) which is indicative that they are capable of spreading.
So drivers NOT wearing seatbelts are more likely to run into you?
Can you explain the mechanism behind this? Because they know if the do get into a wreck it aint gonna be good?
So if you do get infected AND give the disease to another person, you will THEN get infected AND get the disease?

*Crinkle trash*

[CosmicCowboy]

which premise doesn't work?

do you accept that driving drunk elevates risk of accidents?
do you accept that being unvaccinated elevates the risk of contracting covid?

:lol

It now appears that vaccination does no more to prevent contracting covid than being unvaccinated. Try to keep up.

[pgardn]

:lol

It now appears that vaccination does no more to prevent covid infection than being unvaccinated. Try to keep up.

The vaccine does and still does work in increasing the probability you will NOT get the disease (this INCLUDES associated symptoms) we call Covid.

[DarrinS]

The vaccine does and still does work in increasing the probability you will NOT get the disease and associated symptoms we call Covid.

NFL says hello

[spurraider21]

I think a better one would be the unvaccinated are like drivers not wearing seatbelts.

As a vaccinated person, I'm not worried about what an unvaccinated person can do to me anymore than I am what a vaccinated person can do to me. The vaccine doesn't provide sterilizing immunity, so the vaccine is to protect the individual.
the seat belt one makes a less sense, because driver A deciding to wear a seatbelt or not has no bearing on driver/pedestrian B's safety (unless the lack of seatbelt causes driver A to get catapulted out the windshield and kamikaze somebody), whereas a person's decision to be unvaccinated (or dunk behind the wheel) causes heightened risk to himself and those around him

[CosmicCowboy]

The vaccine prevents most from getting the symptoms (called getting THE DISEASE) which is indicative that they are capable of spreading.
So drivers NOT wearing seatbelts are more likely to run into you?
Can you explain the mechanism behind this? Because they know if the do get into a wreck it aint gonna be good?
So if you do get infected AND give the disease to another person, you will THEN get infected AND get the disease?

*Crinkle trash*

I agree that vaccination is like wearing a seat belt. If you drive long enough you will get in an accident. The seat belt hopefully prevents life threatening injury.

If you are out in public enough you are gonna get covid. Hopefully vaccination prevents life threatening injury.

[pgardn]

NFL says hello

This refutes absolutely nothing I have already stated.
If you are vaccinated, and want to catch the disease, find people who are shedding virus, get very close to them in meeting rooms and such day after day.
Breathe the air they have polluted. And hope you get a VERY large dose of virus at once.
This would be the way you would go about to TRY and catch the disease.

[spurraider21]

:lol

It now appears that vaccination does no more to prevent contracting covid than being unvaccinated. Try to keep up.
sorry

you've been sharing this lie nonstop though...

Latest CDC data by vaccine status:

Unvaccinated: 451 cases per 100k
Vaccinated: 134 cases per 100k
Boosted: 48 cases per 100k

Unvaccinated: 6.1 deaths per 100k
Vaccinated: 0.5 deaths per 100k
Boosted: 0.1 deaths per 100k

[spurraider21]

I agree that vaccination is like wearing a seat belt. If you drive long enough you will get in an accident. The seat belt hopefully prevents life threatening injury.

If you are out in public enough you are gonna get covid. Hopefully vaccination prevents life threatening injury.
being unvaccinated heightens the risk for others around you. not wearing a seatbelt doesnt

[spurraider21]

NFL says hello
ok?

[pgardn]

I agree that vaccination is like wearing a seat belt. If you drive long enough you will get in an accident. The seat belt hopefully prevents life threatening injury.

If you are out in public enough you are gonna get covid. Hopefully vaccination prevents life threatening injury.

So what do you do to drunk drivers who are repeatedly caught driving and running into other people besides telling them to wear their seatbelt?

[CosmicCowboy]

The vaccine does and still does work in increasing the probability you will NOT get the disease (this INCLUDES associated symptoms) we call Covid.

Thats a goal post move requiring symptoms. Asymptomatic are just as contagious as symptomatic. The vaccine doesn't prevent it. The vaccine is mostly for personal protection to hopefully prevent serious illness WHEN you get it.

[spurraider21]

:lol people here are so mad that vaccines work but not with 100.0% efficiency

[CosmicCowboy]

So what do you do to drunk drivers who are repeatedly caught driving and running into other people besides telling them to wear their seatbelt?

Another goal post move. I said nothing about drunk drivers. And yes, drunk drivers increase the probability of accidents.

[pgardn]

Thats a goal post move requiring symptoms. Asymptomatic are just as contagious as symptomatic. The vaccine doesn't prevent it. The vaccine is mostly for personal protection to hopefully prevent serious illness WHEN you get it.

And strike three again with probability.
The vaccine absolutely prevents symptoms that are indicative that someone is much more likely to spread it (shed virus).
Asymptomatic is rare and many ARE NOT ACTIVELY shedding virus.

This can change. But here we are right now.

[CosmicCowboy]

:lol people here are so mad that vaccines work but not with 100.0% efficiency

You suck. Im not mad, just being realistic about what they can and can't do. I have had covid and am triple vaxxed so I'm not saying I disagree with them, I just accept them for what they can maybe do, which is hopefully prevent serious injury and death.

[CosmicCowboy]

And strike three again with probability.
The vaccine absolutely prevents symptoms that are indicative that someone is much more likely to spread it (shed virus).
Asymptomatic is rare and many ARE NOT ACTIVELY shedding virus.

This can change. But here we are right now.

Its an aerosol. It just requires breathing to spread. You don't have to be hacking and coughing.

[spurraider21]

You suck. Im not mad, just being realistic about what they can and can't do. I have had covid and am triple vaxxed so I'm not saying I disagree with them, I just accept them for what they can maybe do, which is hopefully prevent serious injury and death.
your anecdotal experience is valid, but it does not trump published data. has shown time and time again the vaccines are effective at not only preventing serious symptoms/hospitalizations, but also infection

i know somebody will jump in and say that using the word "prevent" implies that it is 100% effective at doing so in all cases. it's not.

[pgardn]

You suck. Im not mad, just being realistic about what they can and can't do. I have had covid and am triple vaxxed so I'm not saying I disagree with them, I just accept them for what they can maybe do, which is hopefully prevent serious injury and death.

Not only did you get infected, you GOT the disease (And associated symptoms). You are falling pray to snakeman's snakeoil that everyone will get infected statement. And as I understand it you got the fairly bad symptoms, symptoms that some people never even experience. And your very bad symptoms thankfully did not aid in your death. So you escaped the worst outcome of getting infected by the virus and getting the associated symptoms AND it being bad enough to lead to your death. I hope you do not experience any long term problems that some appear to exhibit as a reminder.

[CosmicCowboy]

your anecdotal experience is valid, but it does not trump published data

Published data does not back up your claim that vaccination prevents infection.

[CosmicCowboy]

Not only did you get infected, you GOT the disease (And associated symptoms). You are falling pray to snakeman's snakeoil that everyone will get infected statement. And as I understand it you got the fairly bad symptoms, symptoms that some people never even experience. And your very bad symptoms thankfully did not aid in your death. So you escaped the worst outcome of getting infected by the virus and getting the associated symptoms AND it being bad enough to lead to your death. I hope you do not experience any long term problems that some appear to exhibit as a reminder.

I got it early before vaccinations were available. Might have been a better result if I was vaxxed then.

[CosmicCowboy]

And yeah, I think just about everyone is gonna get it eventually. Its never going away. Some will get it several times in their lifetime just like the flu.

[pgardn]

Its an aerosol. It just requires breathing to spread. You don't have to be hacking and coughing.

But you can be talking very loudly and singing next to someone in church (very prevalent in these bad outbreaks)
Thus we have asked people to wear masks, even if they know they do not have the disease and have been vaccinated. Because there are people who CANNOT receive the vaccine or who are very vulnerable to getting infected (people who have or are currently undergoing chemotherapy etc...) thus possibly on the track to getting the bad symptoms.

But its me, myself and I for the red team.
The masks are horribly constricting and make me wanna die on all the airplanes I have been on. Its an affront to MY rights. Fuck public health. And of course I am younger and probably would have minor symptoms so I should just say fk the vaccine. Because the vaccine is FALSELY more likely to cause problems. Here we go.

Seems like ST does this endless loop stuff with this conversation.

[spurraider21]

Published data does not back up your claim that vaccination prevents infection.
i'm so, so sorry that the vaccines work better than you think


The findings come from four weeks of additional data collected in CDC’s HEROES-RECOVER study of health care workers, first responders, frontline workers, and other essential workers. These groups are more likely to be exposed to the virus that causes COVID-19 because of their occupations. Preliminary results from this study were first announced in March 2021.

In the new analysis, 3,975 participants completed weekly SARS-CoV-2 testing for 17 consecutive weeks (from December 13, 2020 to April 10, 2021) in eight U.S. locations. Participants self-collected nasal swabs that were laboratory tested for SARS-CoV-2, which is the virus that causes COVID-19. If the tests came back positive, the specimens were further tested to determine the amount of detectable virus in the nose (i.e., viral load) and the number of days that participants tested positive (i.e., viral shedding). Participants were followed over time and the data were analyzed according to vaccination status. To evaluate vaccine benefits, the study investigators accounted for the circulation of SARS-CoV-2 viruses in the area and how consistently participants used personal protective equipment (PPE) at work and in the community. Once fully vaccinated, participants’ risk of infection was reduced by 91 percent. After partial vaccination, participants’ risk of infection was reduced by 81 percent. These estimates included symptomatic and asymptomatic infections.

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0607-mrna-reduce-risks.html

[DarrinS]

:lol people here are so mad that vaccines work but not with 100.0% efficiency

I'm very glad that they keep most people from becoming seriously ill.

Your drunk driving analogy is still an epic fail.

[pgardn]

And yeah, I think just about everyone is gonna get it eventually. Its never going away. Some will get it several times in their lifetime just like the flu.

I have never had the flu symptoms. So I say, "I have never had the flu."
It has been brought to my attention that I probably have and do get the flu virus. I can even get tested to prove this.
So because I personally have never had the what seem to be pretty horrid flu symptoms, I should not get vaccinated.
Well I DO get vaccinated every flu season because I MIGHT be a spreader, but I dont get the SYMPTOMS of the disease.

And now I can be called a white knight because I see public health as common sense, especially in large cities. Its kind of a UNITED States thing to do I was thinking.
But apparently its not. Nor is wearing a mask on occasion because my rights are in danger. Slippery slope... first we are asked, sometimes told, we must wear a mask, next step, "they" take our guns.

[pgardn]

I'm very glad that they keep most people from becoming seriously ill.

MY seatbelt analogy is still an epic fail.

Agree.

[DarrinS]

For people who are unvaccinated or are more than six months out from their second mRNA dose (or more than 2 months after the J&J vaccine) and not yet boosted, CDC now recommends quarantine for 5 days followed by strict mask use for an additional 5 days. Alternatively, if a 5-day quarantine is not feasible, it is imperative that an exposed person wear a well-fitting mask at all times when around others for 10 days after exposure. Individuals who have received their booster shot do not need to quarantine following an exposure, but should wear a mask for 10 days after the exposure.


Hmmmm


Damn drunk unboosted people. :lmao

[Cuck Ross]

Joe said everyone has an immune system that responds appropriately to vaccines?
Joe lied. Deal with it.

[spurraider21]

I'm very glad that they keep most people from becoming seriously ill.

Your drunk driving analogy is still an epic fail.


which premise doesn't work?

do you accept that driving drunk elevates risk of accidents?
do you accept that being unvaccinated elevates the risk of contracting covid?

[spurraider21]

darrin just feels personally attacked by an analogy including alcohol tbh

[pgardn]

So what do you do to drunk drivers who are repeatedly caught driving and running into other people besides telling them to wear their seatbelt?

Darrin...?

[pgardn]

darrin just feels personally attacked by an analogy including alcohol tbh

Sometimes he seems perfectly sane, next, he is ruining my John Madden airplane traps for hater.

[DarrinS]

Hmmmm


Damn drunk unboosted people. :lmao


pgardn....?

[ElNono]

NIH now says at home tests may not work on omicron.

What I read is tests are less sensitive, but still work.

[Blake]

I think a better one would be the unvaccinated are like drivers not wearing seatbelts.

As a vaccinated person, I'm not worried about what an unvaccinated person can do to me anymore than I am what a vaccinated person can do to me. The vaccine doesn't provide sterilizing immunity, so the vaccine is to protect the individual.

People without seat belts can get thrown from the car which can potentially affect other drivers.

[pgardn]

pgardn....?

You did not like the drunk driving analogy so you went to seatbelts.
I gave you a situation using the drunk driving analogy AND seatbelts that both have the commonality of driving AND involving what happens if we wreck.
So your analogy again please. Explain. Or laugh again. Probably want to use the later.

[ElNono]

:lol people here are so mad that vaccines work but not with 100.0% efficiency

It cost dear leader the presidency. There’s no vaccine to cure that butthurt, tbh

[hater]

Joe lied. Deal with it.

So did Falsuchin

[Blake]

:lol

It now appears that vaccination does no more to prevent contracting covid than being unvaccinated. Try to keep up.

Why do you guys lie like this about covid?

Are you ignorant or lying on purpose?

[pgardn]

So what do you do to drunk drivers who are repeatedly caught driving and running into other people besides telling them to wear their seatbelt?

Darrin?

[SnakeBoy]

The vaccine does and still does work in increasing the probability you will NOT get the disease (this INCLUDES associated symptoms) we call Covid.

Long ago I said vaccines don't prevent infection, they prevent or reduce disease and you took issue with it.

Yet here you are parroting me

Those goalposts :lol

[hater]

And yeah, I think just about everyone is gonna get it eventually. Its never going away. Some will get it several times in their lifetime just like the flu.

Called this over q year ago

Cheers :tu

[DarrinS]

The drunk drivers:

unvaccinated
unboosted
kids < 5
people who can't get vaccinated

[pgardn]

Why do you guys lie like this about covid?

Are you ignorant or lying on purpose?

The word infection is being used in a very dishonest manner here.
And its very easy for the red team.
Infections are sometimes used synonymously with the symptoms that sometimes accompany an infection.
Fox news go to...

[DarrinS]

The word infection is being used in a very dishonest manner here.
And its very easy for the red team.
Infections are sometimes used synonymously with the symptoms that sometimes accompany an infection.
Fox news go to...


Here's the word you are looking for

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/infectious

[ChumpDumper]

Vaxxed anitvaxxers fighting so hard.

Why?

[spurraider21]

Long ago I said vaccines don't prevent infection, they prevent or reduce disease and you took issue with it.

Yet here you are parroting me

Those goalposts :lol

i'm so, so sorry that the vaccines work better than you think


The findings come from four weeks of additional data collected in CDC’s HEROES-RECOVER study of health care workers, first responders, frontline workers, and other essential workers. These groups are more likely to be exposed to the virus that causes COVID-19 because of their occupations. Preliminary results from this study were first announced in March 2021.

In the new analysis, 3,975 participants completed weekly SARS-CoV-2 testing for 17 consecutive weeks (from December 13, 2020 to April 10, 2021) in eight U.S. locations. Participants self-collected nasal swabs that were laboratory tested for SARS-CoV-2, which is the virus that causes COVID-19. If the tests came back positive, the specimens were further tested to determine the amount of detectable virus in the nose (i.e., viral load) and the number of days that participants tested positive (i.e., viral shedding). Participants were followed over time and the data were analyzed according to vaccination status. To evaluate vaccine benefits, the study investigators accounted for the circulation of SARS-CoV-2 viruses in the area and how consistently participants used personal protective equipment (PPE) at work and in the community. Once fully vaccinated, participants’ risk of infection was reduced by 91 percent. After partial vaccination, participants’ risk of infection was reduced by 81 percent. These estimates included symptomatic and asymptomatic infections.

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0607-mrna-reduce-risks.html

[pgardn]

The drunk drivers:

unvaccinated
unboosted
kids < 5
people who can't get vaccinated

So what do we do to drunk drivers who drive a car?

leads too...

So what do we do to drunk drivers able to drive (and acquired a license.... god forbid now the government can track them! but, but... the voting....???) who go about causing accidents?

[spurraider21]

CC and snakeboy clinging to the "vaccines dont help prevent infections" talking point like

https://c.tenor.com/kxgmlhlYkO8AAAAC/its-still.gif

[DarrinS]

People without seat belts can get thrown from the car which can potentially affect other drivers.

I can tell you from numerous investigations that ejected occupants are far likelier to harm themselves than anyone else.

Do you really want to go there?

[DarrinS]

CC and snakeboy clinging to the "vaccines dont help prevent infections" talking point like

https://c.tenor.com/kxgmlhlYkO8AAAAC/its-still.gif


CDC did too. :lol

[pgardn]

Long ago I said vaccines don't prevent infection, they prevent or reduce disease and you took issue with it.

Yet here you are parroting me

Those goalposts :lol

Long ago you used infection to mean symptoms.
And you keep using it as a fear factor.
We get infected by all kinds of "bugs" everyday and we never know it.
Our immune systems fight cancerous cells we never know existed.

Never mention the whole thing. Just infection... AND STOP.

[spurraider21]

CDC did too. :lol
link?

[pgardn]

I can tell you from numerous investigations that ejected occupants are far likelier to harm themselves than anyone else.

Do you really want to go there?

He is poking you to explain your drunk diver mechanism of transmission methinks.

[boutons_deux]

Omicron Variant Might Help Defend Against Delta, Lab Study Suggests

In the lab, antibodies produced during an Omicron infection protected against Delta.

If Omicron dominates in the real world, that could lead to a less dire future.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/28/health/covid-omicron-antibodies-delta.html

[CosmicCowboy]

CC and snakeboy clinging to the "vaccines dont help prevent infections" talking point like

https://c.tenor.com/kxgmlhlYkO8AAAAC/its-still.gif

Spurraider still living in the Spring of 2021 when sleepy Joe was claiming vaccinations would keep you from getting covid. Both clearly wrong at this point. NFL is like 98% vaccinated and they can't even field teams with all the positive tests and these guys are stud athletes for the most part. 461 positives in the last two weeks.

[DarrinS]

link?

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=283058&p=10659665&viewfull=1#post10659665

[DarrinS]

He is poking you to explain your drunk diver mechanism of transmission methinks.

Not my analogy to explain

[pgardn]

Joe lied. Deal with it.

You have to deal with it.
You swept the losing orange matter to go unopposed in the primaries, not me. You got Joe elected. You put a loser up for president. 8 million strong.
So Joe purposely meant to deceive people by purposely saying something he knew was not true?
Did he call it disinformation and say he loved the method like the orange blob?

[spurraider21]

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=283058&p=10659665&viewfull=1#post10659665
thats not them "clinging" to anything. its an acknowledgment of the science... that vaccine effectiveness, like natural immunity, wanes with time. boosters are a good thing :tu

we still get Tdap boosters every 10 years, and flu shots once a year

[ElNono]

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=283058&p=10659665&viewfull=1#post10659665

What does quarantine protocols have to do with vaccine effectiveness?

[pgardn]

Not my analogy to explain

Okay you can now bury your driving analogy.

[DarrinS]

What does quarantine protocols have to do with vaccine effectiveness?

CDC obviously knows that vaccinated people are infectious, too. Hence, the same quarantine protocol as the unvaccinated.

[ElNono]

Spurraider still living in the Spring of 2021 when sleepy Joe was claiming vaccinations would keep you from getting covid. Both clearly wrong at this point. NFL is like 98% vaccinated and they can't even field teams with all the positive tests and these guys are stud athletes for the most part. 461 positives in the last two weeks.

What does being stud athletes have to do with anything when it comes to infection rates? You would expect those guys not to need hospitalization or die from it, but as far as infection goes, the more exposed you are to the virus, the higher the likelihood you’re going to get it, no matter if you’re an athlete or a midget.

[Cuck Ross]

i'm so, so sorry that the vaccines work better than you think



https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0607-mrna-reduce-risks.html
March 2021. Things are quite a bit different today concerning % of vaccinated getting Covid.

Also is the study you linked peer reviewed? Your link doesn’t say.

[spurraider21]

Spurraider still living in the Spring of 2021 when sleepy Joe was claiming vaccinations would keep you from getting covid. Both clearly wrong at this point. NFL is like 98% vaccinated and they can't even field teams with all the positive tests and these guys are stud athletes for the most part. 461 positives in the last two weeks.
just ignoring the data i posted :lol

[pgardn]

So what do we do to drunk drivers who drive a car?

leads too...

So what do we do to drunk drivers able to drive (and acquired a license.... god forbid now the government can track them! but, but... the voting....???) who go about causing accidents?

This was an attempt to get you to understand why SR21s analogy has much more in common with the subject than yours.
It was a reply to your reply and distaste for the drunk driving analogy which imo was much better.
There you have it.

God bless our teachers.

[DarrinS]

What does being stud athletes have to do with anything when it comes to infection rates? You would expect those guys not to need hospitalization or die from it, but as far as infection goes, the more exposed you are to the virus, the higher the likelihood you’re going to get it, no matter if you’re vaccinated or not.

Fify

[ElNono]

CDC obviously knows that vaccinated people are infectious, too. Hence, the same quarantine protocol as the unvaccinated.

No, what the CDC knows is that once you tested positive, quarantining protocols should apply evenly. Vaccines reducing the infection rates means you’re less likely to test positive to the virus even if you were exposed. Is it really that hard to understand?

[pgardn]

March 2021. Things are quite a bit different today concerning % of vaccinated getting Covid.

Also is the study you linked peer reviewed? Your link doesn’t say.

How is it determined if someone is vaccinated now that we have vaccinations?

[Cuck Ross]

You have to deal with it.
You swept the losing orange matter to go unopposed in the primaries, not me. You got Joe elected. You put a loser up for president. 8 million strong.
So Joe purposely meant to deceive people by purposely saying something he knew was not true?
Did he call it disinformation and say he loved the method like the orange blob?
Instant deflection to Trump :lol

Joe lied. Admit it and move on.

[Cuck Ross]

just ignoring the data i posted :lol
How is it determined if someone is vaccinated?

[Ef-man]

CC and snakeboy clinging to the "vaccines dont help prevent infections" talking point like

https://c.tenor.com/kxgmlhlYkO8AAAAC/its-still.gif

:lol

[ElNono]

The next point of contention is going to be that it doesn’t technically prevent infections, it just substantially helps your body fight off the virus from taking hold, but you’re still ‘infected’.

[ElNono]

The criticism with the halving of quarantine days from the CDC primarily centers on why not have a negative test on day 5 before ending quarantine, and I think that’s a somewhat valid criticism. Especially since, apparently, lack of testing is no longer a problem?

[pgardn]

Spurraider still living in the Spring of 2021 when sleepy Joe was claiming vaccinations would keep you from getting covid. Both clearly wrong at this point. NFL is like 98% vaccinated and they can't even field teams with all the positive tests and these guys are stud athletes for the most part. 461 positives in the last two weeks.





This refutes absolutely nothing I have already stated.
If you are vaccinated, and want to catch the disease, find people who are shedding virus, get very close to them in meeting rooms and such day after day.
Breathe the air they have polluted. And hope you get a VERY large dose of virus at once.
This would be the way you would go about to TRY and catch the disease.

And... How does the NFL know if players have been vaccinated, I have not been keeping up with this?
Also wonder what protocols of meetings are. Masks, numbers of people in one room, tested... Some teams seem to be doing better jobs. Spain and French soccer teams were doing far, far better than the English. We will see if they get sloppy.

[DarrinS]

The next point of contention is going to be that it doesn’t technically prevent infections, it just substantially helps your body fight off the virus from taking hold, but you’re still ‘infected’.

If you are infectious, you are infected.

[pgardn]

If you are infectious, you are infected.

Now add in the word symptoms with the word infection and infectious please.
Just a sample sentence.

[DarrinS]

Now add in the word symptoms with the word infection and infectious please.
Just a sample sentence.

Why?

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/infected

[Blake]

I can tell you from numerous investigations that ejected occupants are far likelier to harm themselves than anyone else.

Do you really want to go there?

That's not the point. The point is that ejected occupants can still harm others. Rif.

[pgardn]

Why?

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/infected

Because I believe you dont want to, possibly because you dont really understand how they are used together.
We type freely all the time on here. Go ahead, you can do it. Your own sentence.

[pgardn]

That's not the point. The point is that ejected occupants can still harm others. Rif.

oh dont start with probability, not with him!
He only uses probability with car accidents.
And seatbelt analogies.

[DarrinS]

That's not the point. The point is that ejected occupants can still harm others. Rif.

Lol

[pgardn]

Instant deflection to Trump :lol

Joe lied. Admit it and move on.

I dont know a situation where he knew the information he was giving was false and he went ahead anyway.
I do know this for Trump.

And next election you will vote for Trump again, so it matters.

[pgardn]

Lol

Hey hey now... a person ejected into the air can be considered a projectile.
And we all know projectiles can be dangerous if large, or moving at a high speed, or both, you know momentum.

[Cuck Ross]

I dont know a situation where he knew the information he was giving was false and he went ahead anyway.
I do know this for Trump.

And next election you will vote for Trump again, so it matters.
It was known to be false the moment it came out of Joe’s mouth. He lied. Admit it and move on.

[SnakeBoy]

i'm so, so sorry that the vaccines work better than you think



https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0607-mrna-reduce-risks.html

from December 13, 2020 to April 10, 2021


Over the current study period, data continues to confirm that the sun no longer exists

[hater]

Long ago I said vaccines don't prevent infection, they prevent or reduce disease and you took issue with it.

Yet here you are parroting me

Those goalposts :lol

Parroting Falsuchi will make you a professional goal post relocator. Lot of posters with that profession here :lmao

[ElNono]

If you are infectious, you are infected.

The only way we know if you’re infected is with a test. You almost never get a test the exact moment the virus entered your body. There’s a window of time between exposure/infection and initial testing. Very often it’s in the range of days.
There’s possibly ample time for your body to fight off the virus before it actually takes hold and starts reproducing rapidly. The immune system largely dictates how that goes, and obviously varies from person to person. That’s why educating your immune system about the virus, what vaccination does, is important.

[ElNono]

Parroting Falsuchi will make you a professional goal post relocator. Lot of posters with that profession here :lmao

The irony of this post :lmao

Can you imagine hater running the NIAID? :lol

[DMC]

Hey hey now... a person ejected into the air can be considered a projectile.
And we all know projectiles can be dangerous if large, or moving at a high speed, or both, you know momentum.

:lmao go Cliff!

[DMC]

Parroting Falsuchi will make you a professional goal post relocator. Lot of posters with that profession here :lmao

Feltchi..

[hater]

The irony of this post :lmao

Can you imagine hater running the NIAID? :lol

Our own Salvadorian goal post relocator takes offense :lol

Parroting Falsuchin wont make you any extra bitcoins mi compa :lol