Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

[hater]

oh fuck :lmao :lol :lmao

https://twitter.com/XHNews/status/1255734356728922113?s=20

China upping its troll game

shits getting real

[Reck]

Texas set to open just as they reported their biggest jump in deaths yesterday. Oops

[hater]

https://twitter.com/Garou_Hidalgo/status/1246966767328657408?s=20

[CosmicCowboy]

Texas set to open just as they reported their biggest jump in deaths yesterday. Oops

Deaths follow infections by 4-5 weeks. You can start expecting a lot more.

[hater]

https://twitter.com/Garou_Hidalgo/status/1255744947241836545?s=20

[picnroll]

Trump push to open meatpackers comes as producers profit from exports to China

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/28/politics/defense-production-act-executive-order-food-supply/index.html

Trump willing to trade workers lives so CEOs can make money exporting meat to China.

[baseline bum]

Trump push to open meatpackers comes as producers profit from exports to China

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/28/politics/defense-production-act-executive-order-food-supply/index.html

Trump willing to trade workers lives so CEOs can make money exporting meat to China.

All company executives should be forced to cover shifts themselves when their peasant workers get sick and have to stay home. If it's good for the wage slaves it's good for the ruling class too.

[Winehole23]

All company executives should be forced to cover shifts themselves when their peasant workers get sick and have to stay home. If it's good for the wage slaves it's good for the ruling class too.There's no angle in being a billionaire exploiter if you can't bunker down in your gated fortress while your wage slaves get infected, maimed and killed on your production line.

[Winehole23]

Anyway, isn't Smithfield Farms a Chinese company now? Why is China allowed to own critical US infrastructure?

[monosylab1k]

Elon Musk is currently melting down on twitter. :lol

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EW8Ux49XQAI-6iH?format=jpg&name=large

[Spurs Homer]

Anyway, isn't Smithfield Farms a Chinese company now? Why is China allowed to own critical US infrastructure?

Russia gave Moscow Mitch 200 million to start a Russian aluminum plant in Ky

and

now is registered - a RUSSIAN company

they can be legit DONORS in local and federal elections....legally.


not a peep from the “republican patriots”

[Trill Clinton]

1255861634301669378

[hater]

oh look it was mostly hype:

Shares of Gilead Sciences Inc. were down 5.9% in trading on Friday after at least three analysts downgraded the stock, citing a range of concerns. Raymond James downgraded the drugmaker's shares to market perform from outperform; analyst Steven Seedhouse attributed the downgrade to a lack of clarity around the commercial viability of remdesivir, an experimental COVID-19 treatment, as well as the drug's "seemingly de minimis activity" in preliminary clinical trial data released this week. "We don't know what a sustainable revenue stream from remdesivir will look like,"




called it

[boutons_deux]

All company executives should be forced to cover shifts themselves when their peasant workers get sick and have to stay home. If it's good for the wage slaves it's good for the ruling class too.

20+ plants closed due to sick workers, many 1000s are sick, so where will they find the workers?

anybody of you carnivores want to eat meat from a C19-infected worker?

[TimDunkem]

The Future of the COVID-19 Pandemic: Lessons Learned from Pandemic Influenza, by Moore, Lipsitch, Barry, Osterholm - COVID-19: The CIDRAP Viewpoint, April 30, 2020:
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/sites/default/files/public/downloads/cidrap-covid19-viewpoint-part1_0.pdf

"The length of the pandemic will likely be 18 to 24 months

Given the transmissibility of SARS-CoV-2, 60% to 70% of the population may need to be immune to reach a critical threshold of herd immunity to halt the pandemic

This may be complicated by the fact that we don’t yet know the duration of immunity to natural SARS-CoV-2 infection. Based on seasonal coronaviruses, we can anticipate that even if immunity declines after exposure, there may still be some protection against disease severity and reduced contagiousness, but this remains to be assessed for SARS-CoV-2.

3 Scenarios following the first wave of COVID-19 in spring 2020:

Scenario 1: a series of repetitive smaller waves that occur through the summer and then consistently over a 1-to 2-year period, gradually diminishing sometime in 2021

Scenario 2: a larger wave in the fall or winter of 2020 and one or more smaller subsequent waves in 2021

Scenario 3: a “slow burn” of ongoing transmission and case occurrence, but without a clear wave pattern.
Whichever scenario the pandemic follows (assuming at least some level of ongoing mitigation measures), we must be prepared for at least another 18 to 24 months of significant COVID-19 activity"

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1255386895145672705?s=20

Check out this magatard.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1256240766600409088?s=20

This magatard is out of control.

[Reck]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1256240766600409088?s=20

This magatard is out of control.

He’s unhinged. That’s why we shouldn’t let celebrities and billionaires looking out for number 1 be presidents.

[SnakeBoy]

Why is China allowed to own critical US infrastructure?

lol :cry but why :cry asks the libertarian free trader globalist

[monosylab1k]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1255386895145672705?s=20

Check out this magatard.

Nobody is under house arrest, you dramatic little faggot.

[ducks]

https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/95384788_2906417819438049_4192402235725971456_o.jp g?_nc_cat=111&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_oc=AQl-1ZtJnLpf4PF1FlBwydkfzxky5rMsycMc2BvMbqJhRHQ8l1KHC8 Pho8Ni_iloCXEtOgUMJ10Cawk08wZf6m4T&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-2.xx&_nc_tp=14&oh=aec713a8dd010d0f2db674bee4a622ce&oe=5ED1383D

[monosylab1k]

https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/95384788_2906417819438049_4192402235725971456_o.jp g?_nc_cat=111&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_oc=AQl-1ZtJnLpf4PF1FlBwydkfzxky5rMsycMc2BvMbqJhRHQ8l1KHC8 Pho8Ni_iloCXEtOgUMJ10Cawk08wZf6m4T&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-2.xx&_nc_tp=14&oh=aec713a8dd010d0f2db674bee4a622ce&oe=5ED1383D
What about women’s freedom over their own bodies?

[hater]

:lmao :lmao :lmao

https://twitter.com/ajc/status/1256248545520373760?s=21

[hater]

:lmao

https://twitter.com/miguelchines04/status/1256255020569432064?s=21

[boutons_deux]

DeAnna Lorraine Is Being Totally Not Racist

When She Says Black People Get COVID-19

Because They Have ‘House Parties and Barbecues and Crawfish Boils’


https://files.rightwingwatch.org/uploads/DeAnna-Lorraine-YouTube.jpg

https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/deanna-lorraine-is-being-totally-not-racist-when-she-says-black-people-get-covid-19-because-they-have-house-parties-and-barbecues-and-crawfish-boils/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=rww&utm_campaign=bestof (https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/deanna-lorraine-is-being-totally-not-racist-when-she-says-black-people-get-covid-19-because-they-have-house-parties-and-barbecues-and-crawfish-boils/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=rww&utm_campaign=bestof)

[Splits]

RIP Atlanta

[Nathan89]

DeAnna Lorraine Is Being Totally Not Racist

When She Says Black People Get COVID-19

Because They Have ‘House Parties and Barbecues and Crawfish Boils’


https://files.rightwingwatch.org/uploads/DeAnna-Lorraine-YouTube.jpg

https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/deanna-lorraine-is-being-totally-not-racist-when-she-says-black-people-get-covid-19-because-they-have-house-parties-and-barbecues-and-crawfish-boils/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=rww&utm_campaign=bestof (https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/deanna-lorraine-is-being-totally-not-racist-when-she-says-black-people-get-covid-19-because-they-have-house-parties-and-barbecues-and-crawfish-boils/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=rww&utm_campaign=bestof)

Could be a contributing issue but I haven't seen anything about.

[Blake]

Could be a contributing issue but I haven't seen anything about.

Lol Nathan open to suggestions from alt right racists

[Blake]

"..Because of its ability to spread from people who don’t appear to be ill, the virus may be harder to control than influenza, the cause of most pandemics in recent history, according to the report from the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota. People may actually be at their most infectious before symptoms appear, according to the report.

After locking down billions of people around the world to minimize its spread through countries, governments are now cautiously allowing businesses and public places to reopen. Yet the coronavirus pandemic is likely to continue in waves that could last beyond 2022, the authors said...."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2020-05-01/covid-19-pandemic-likely-to-last-two-years-report-says

[leemajors]

the deep state already has designed the response from the federal government. thats why you heard Facci change his tune and really now when you hear Facci, Trump, Pence they all parrot the same thing.

they are all on board. they will do the utmost to change public perception that the economic doom will be worse than this virus.

I thought Trump was at war with the deep state?

[Nathan89]

https://youtu.be/2eJRvKhiPqo

I didn't realize there were so many magatards in California hitting the beaches.

[baseline bum]

I didn't realize there were so many magatards in California hitting the beaches.

You didn't realize there were a ton of magatards in Orange County?

[boutons_deux]

The Trash/Repug/right wing hate media orchestra is and will be scapegoating WHO and China to coverup The Trash Pandemic and all the shit he did wrong, or didn't do at all.

The China claim, which Julie Annie uses to include Obama, is based on:

================

Was the new coronavirus accidentally released from a Wuhan lab?

It’s doubtful.

“I will tell you, more and more, we’re hearing the story [that the new coronavirus (https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/02/28/what-you-need-know-about-coronavirus/?tid=lk_inline_manual_2&itid=lk_inline_manual_2) emerged from a Wuhan lab].”

— President Trump

Is it possible that the new coronavirus — which causes covid-19 — leaked from a lab?

A study published in the New England Journal of Medicine (https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2001316) found that of the first 425 patients,

only 45 percent had connections to the market.

A separate Jan. 24 analysis published in the Lancet (https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30183-5/fulltext#bib35) found that three of the first four cases — including the first known case — did not have market links.

“In my opinion, the virus came into the market before it came out of the market.”

Let’s be clear:

No scientist we spoke to thinks the new coronavirus was designed as a bioweapon.

When asked, Milton Leitenberg (https://cissm.umd.edu/our-community/faculty-staff/milton-leitenberg), a biological weapons expert at the University of Maryland, responded with a flat “No.”

Most experts say the new coronavirus was the product of a natural process.

The Fact Checker video team investigates.

“Without fail, every single BSL-4 lab in the U.S. gets some type of safety violation, some type of thing that they could do better.”

Records reveal multiple accidents have (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/chinese-lab-conducted-extensive-research-on-deadly-bat-viruses-but-there-is-no-evidence-of-accidental-release/2020/04/30/3e5d12a0-8b0d-11ea-9dfd-990f9dcc71fc_story.html?tid=lk_inline_manual_34&itid=lk_inline_manual_34) led to the escape of dangerous pathogens and inadvertent infections at U.S. laboratories.

The virus would need to be able to infect humans (or another animal that can then infect humans), and

that infection needs to be strong enough that it isn’t immediately beaten by the immune system, allowing it to spread among people.

Most known bat coronaviruses cannot do either of these things.

The novel coronavirus, however, can do both.

“Our analyses clearly show that SARS-CoV-2 is not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus.”

“You don’t see kind of large chunks of genomic material that are somehow inserted or absent,” he said. Rather, it is the opposite.

“The differences are these small mutations, as you’d expect from nature.”

Still, no scientist was willing to completely dismiss the idea — they only said that it was highly unlikely.

“The question whether the outbreak virus entered humans through an accidental infection of a lab worker is a question of historical fact, not a question of scientific fact.

The question can be answered only through a forensic investigation, not through a scientific investigation.”

But the U.S. government :lol is not convinced. ;lol

The intelligence community :lol

“will continue to rigorously examine emerging information and intelligence

to determine whether the outbreak began through contact with infected animals or

if it was the result of an accident at a laboratory in Wuhan,”

The Bottom Line

The balance of the scientific evidence strongly supports

the conclusion that the new coronavirus emerged from nature — be it the Wuhan market or somewhere else.

Too many unexpected coincidences would have had to take place for it to have escaped from a lab.

it’s unclear when or if we will ever know the origin story of this new virus that is causing death and economic turmoil around the globe.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/05/01/was-new-coronavirus-accidentally-released-wuhan-lab-its-doubtful/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9. eyJjb29raWVuYW1lIjoid3BfY3J0aWQiLCJpc3MiOiJDYXJ0YS IsImNvb2tpZXZhbHVlIjoiNTk3NDBkYjNhZGU0ZTIxYTg0OTNm ZGFlIiwidGFnIjoiNWVhYzhkNzhmZTFmZjY1NGMyYzk1MGViIi widXJsIjoiaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cud2FzaGluZ3RvbnBvc3QuY29t L3BvbGl0aWNzLzIwMjAvMDUvMDEvd2FzLW5ldy1jb3JvbmF2aX J1cy1hY2NpZGVudGFsbHktcmVsZWFzZWQtd3VoYW4tbGFiLWl0 cy1kb3VidGZ1bC8_dXRtX2NhbXBhaWduPXdwX3RvX3lvdXJfaG VhbHRoJnV0bV9tZWRpdW09ZW1haWwmdXRtX3NvdXJjZT1uZXdz bGV0dGVyJndwaXNyYz1ubF90eWgmd3Btaz0xIn0.RPXdn67dae ThFeiP9PaYdPiAYXf-LbhsMWBbxUjq9Bg&utm_campaign=wp_to_your_health&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_tyh&wpmk=1

Dems can easily counter the Trash/Repug coverup, but will they?

[phxspurfan]

1255861634301669378

MBA led US companies were looking for a PC reason to downsize for years now. This is it

[phxspurfan]

https://youtu.be/2eJRvKhiPqo

I didn't realize there were so many magatards in California hitting the beaches.

SoCal is very different than NorCal

[hater]

I thought Trump was at war with the deep state?

they both dont want economy to meltdown and have people out on the streets. it would benefit neither as both
work for the rich and powerful

corona has potential to hurt both groups of rich and powerful (deep state and Trump rich supporters) so at this point they are uniting to avoid a rebellion

[Trill Clinton]

1256261404262305797

these thugs really want to catch the Rona

[hater]

1256261404262305797

these thugs really want to catch the Rona

hope they fullfill their goals

[CosmicCowboy]

You guys get your meat? That's the next toilet paper shortage. Damn. There were 75 people waiting in line outside Granzins this morning. Bolners is still closed. I heard one of the employees got the boogievirus and they are all still quarantined.

[hater]

You guys get your meat? That's the next toilet paper shortage. Damn. There were 75 people waiting in line outside Granzins this morning. Bolners is still closed. I heard one of the employees got the boogievirus and they are all still quarantined.

theres tons of meat where I went yesterday

I dont live in SA but after seeing all the meat yesterday I dont think theres a problem yet

u gotta pick the slowest time to go to grocery

middle of the week at lunchtime or right after IMO

and drive to a less populated area

[Spurs Homer]

White House denying Fauci - from appearing in Congress/oversight hearing....


always covering up their criminality...

will Fauci comply?

He is complicit if he does.

[Splits]

1256341264385130496

[midnightpulp]

Elon Musk is currently melting down on twitter. :lol



The most overrated human being on the planet. Don't know why this guy is so idolized? He didn't start Tesla and basically tantrum'ed his way into becoming CEO. Pretty much all of his ideas (hyperloop, tunnel systems, Mars colonization, replacing air travel with rocket travel, Neuralink) aren't feasible and read like something from young adult science fiction. So he funded a reusable rocket company. Wow. Jury is out on whether or not reusable rockets are cheaper than just building new rockets. And :lmao

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-52504187

[clambake]

You guys get your meat? That's the next toilet paper shortage. Damn. There were 75 people waiting in line outside Granzins this morning. Bolners is still closed. I heard one of the employees got the boogievirus and they are all still quarantined.

Order it from Allen brothers


You won’t be disappointed

[Winehole23]

People are starting to relax on mask wearing and social distancing tbh.
For the time being it appears so. Let's revisit this conversation in 60-90 days.

[TSA]

The most overrated human being on the planet. Don't know why this guy is so idolized? He didn't start Tesla and basically tantrum'ed his way into becoming CEO. Pretty much all of his ideas (hyperloop, tunnel systems, Mars colonization, replacing air travel with rocket travel, Neuralink) aren't feasible and read like something from young adult science fiction. So he funded a reusable rocket company. Wow. Jury is out on whether or not reusable rockets are cheaper than just building new rockets. And :lmao

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-52504187

Elon’s a douche, but Teslas are fun as fuck to drive.

[Winehole23]

Elon’s a douche, but Teslas are fun as fuck to drive.He almost sold the forced immigration to Mars idea, he was that close.

[Winehole23]

I think about Elon Musk's sad transit tunnel sometimes, pour myself another brandy, and think about what could have been. What could still be.

[midnightpulp]

Elon’s a douche, but Teslas are fun as fuck to drive.

Sure, but people forget he didn't start the company and isn't responsible for any of the engineering behind those vehicles. He's basically the lead salesman for the company, a la Steve Jobs (we all know Woz was the brains behind the engineering in the early days).

[midnightpulp]

I think about Elon Musk's sad transit tunnel sometimes, pour myself another brandy, and think about what could have been. What could still be.

Just an impractical idea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBtL3qDvdZc

[Winehole23]

Just an impractical idea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBtL3qDvdZc
I like the tunnel that goes beneath downtown Mobile, Alabama on IH-10. As a Austinite by choice, the notion of burying IH-35 has immense appeal.

[Winehole23]

:lol

must have been a non-peak transit.

https://www.al.com/live/2010/10/mobiles_george_wallace_tunnel.html

[RandomGuy]

I think about Elon Musk's sad transit tunnel sometimes, pour myself another brandy, and think about what could have been. What could still be.

Its a great idea. Probably even doable.

We aren't that country anymore though. Rotten with fascism, and wanna be monarchists, who will complain, factless, about anything that spends tax dollars as being not worth the cost/benfit.

If it makes people's lives better or represents some great achievement... no. We get a useless wall as national priority.

[Winehole23]

Its a great idea. Probably even doable.

We aren't that country anymore though. Rotten with fascism, and wanna be monarchists, who will complain, factless, about anything that spends tax dollars as being not worth the cost/benfit.

If it makes people's lives better or represents some great achievement... no. We get a useless wall as national priority.

Have you not heard the idea that IH-35 should be buried through the middle of Austin, TX.? Can something like that actually happen?

[Winehole23]

How is Elon Musk's rocket company doing?

[RandomGuy]

Just an impractical idea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBtL3qDvdZc

Thunderf00t is gold.

Dude walked through it pretty well. I have changed my mind about whether this is a good idea, and agree it stinks.

I had kinda suspected some of the flaws, but it doesn't take much analysis to lay the whole thing bare. Musk is a jackass, who need to be told his scheme is shit.

[midnightpulp]

Its a great idea. Probably even doable.

We aren't that country anymore though. Rotten with fascism, and wanna be monarchists, who will complain, factless, about anything that spends tax dollars as being not worth the cost/benfit.

If it makes people's lives better or represents some great achievement... no. We get a useless wall as national priority.

As envisioned by those silly CGI representations of the concept, no, it isn't a "great idea." A vast network of single lane tunnels that run hundreds of feet deep is a logistical, engineering, and safety nightmare. And that stupid elevator system would be a huge bottleneck and probably congest the system more than an average highway at rush hour. Just imagine the line of cars sitting behind each other to enter the elevator (it'll probably take 5 minutes to deliver a car to the lowest level) one-by-one.

Subterranean transit is pretty much a solved problem. Subways. Musk is just complicating a 100 year old simple solution with his sci-fi visionary nonsense, and the press and fanboys credulously lap it up for some reason.

[ElNono]

He’s just going to run with the “Medical facilities are abusing the system, the real death count is much lower” excuse and anybody who believed otherwise is a libtard Shillary worshipper, etc. And of course it will work.

Not everybody is dumb as Qhris or tholdren, tbh

[RandomGuy]

Have you not heard the idea that IH-35 should be buried through the middle of Austin, TX.? Can something like that actually happen?

Had heard the idea. I don't see a tight-fisted Republican government giving the go ahead.

At some point city government will be pressed to do something. The river and aquifers will make buried tunnels not practical.

[Winehole23]

Had heard the idea. I don't see a tight-fisted Republican government giving the go ahead.

At some point city government will be pressed to do something. The river and aquifers will make buried tunnels not practical.
Of course a tree hugger like you would object. :-p

[midnightpulp]

Thunderf00t is gold.

Dude walked through it pretty well. I have changed my mind about whether this is a good idea, and agree it stinks.

I had kinda suspected some of the flaws, but it doesn't take much analysis to lay the whole thing bare. Musk is a jackass, who need to be told his scheme is shit.

Yeah, Musk likes to overcomplicate concepts we've had a century to think about and refine. His tunnel system and hyperloop ideas are just a dumb science fiction reimaginings of subways, which work pretty damn well. For America, our goal should be to bring those systems into the modern age, as other countries have done. Our fastest train is only 160mph vs. the 300 mph trains in Japan and such.

[midnightpulp]

How is Elon Musk's rocket company doing?

Their profitability is up for debate. Musk will probably wind up sabotaging the company eventually with his retarded ideas, like manned missions to Mars (probably won't happen in our lifetime) and Mars colonization (won't happen for centuries) that will throw a shitload of good money after bad. Starlink seems to be a good, practical idea. I think Musk's problem is that he gets bored with "practicality."

I also have an issue with humanity "looking toward the stars" when we can't even solve shit like poverty on Earth. I forget that quote, goes something like "If you spend too much time contemplating the infinite, you forget about the immediate." We need to walk before we can run.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1256358158274048001?s=19

gag that nazi bitch :lol

[leemajors]

theres tons of meat where I went yesterday

I dont live in SA but after seeing all the meat yesterday I dont think theres a problem yet

u gotta pick the slowest time to go to grocery

middle of the week at lunchtime or right after IMO

and drive to a less populated area

HEB is doing a good job of limiting amount people can purchase, but there seems to be less pork in general even with that. I have a smaller chest freezer full of venison and feral hog thankfully.

[leemajors]

Have you not heard the idea that IH-35 should be buried through the middle of Austin, TX.? Can something like that actually happen?

The clay soil here can shift a lot with rain, I don't know if this is the place do so something like that.

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1256358158274048001?s=19

gag that nazi bitch :lolWhat purpose is served by gagging Fauci?

[leemajors]

What purpose is served by gagging Fauci?

Nothing to counter the gaslighting campaign coming up.

[GAustex]

I like the tunnel that goes beneath downtown Mobile, Alabama on IH-10. As a Austinite by choice, the notion of burying IH-35 has immense appeal.
I design roads for a living
Access is an issue when you bury a freeway. Peps got to get on and off.

[Spurs Homer]

What purpose is served by gagging Fauci?

Cover ups are all about one thing and one thing only: hiding the truth.

Has Fauci been ordered to recommmend drugs/vaccines?
What happened when trump was given the presidential briefings?


confirm dates, times, reactions of white house and what the intel was suggesting...

so many things that could shed light and nail down facts for later investigations...

[CosmicCowboy]

Elon’s a douche, but Teslas are fun as fuck to drive.

All full electric cars are fun to drive. Torque whiplash. Scream off the line.

[Nathan89]

Their profitability is up for debate. Musk will probably wind up sabotaging the company eventually with his retarded ideas, like manned missions to Mars (probably won't happen in our lifetime) and Mars colonization (won't happen for centuries) that will throw a shitload of good money after bad. Starlink seems to be a good, practical idea. I think Musk's problem is that he gets bored with "practicality."

I also have an issue with humanity "looking toward the stars" when we can't even solve shit like poverty on Earth. I forget that quote, goes something like "If you spend too much time contemplating the infinite, you forget about the immediate." We need to walk before we can run.

Goodness what a shit outlook. Big audacious goals and the pursuit of them use to be inspirational. I can only imagine how many great achievements could have been avoided with this philosophy.

[Blake]

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1256358158274048001?s=19

gag that nazi bitch :lol

Because Trump knows more about science and stuff

[ElNono]

Their profitability is up for debate. Musk will probably wind up sabotaging the company eventually with his retarded ideas, like manned missions to Mars (probably won't happen in our lifetime) and Mars colonization (won't happen for centuries) that will throw a shitload of good money after bad. Starlink seems to be a good, practical idea. I think Musk's problem is that he gets bored with "practicality."

I also have an issue with humanity "looking toward the stars" when we can't even solve shit like poverty on Earth. I forget that quote, goes something like "If you spend too much time contemplating the infinite, you forget about the immediate." We need to walk before we can run.

Their Starlink low orbit satellite system could be a huge moneymaker, disrupting cell operators. He'll likely face competition in this area at a latter date, but the fact that they're first to market is a big opportunity for them.

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1256358158274048001?s=19

gag that nazi bitch :lol

1256359120413896704

[midnightpulp]

Goodness what a shit outlook. Big audacious goals and the pursuit of them use to be inspirational. I can only imagine how many great achievements could have been avoided with this philosophy.

This is such a cliched counterargument to the criticism of dumb ideas by so-called "visionaries" like Musk. Not every idea is of equal worth, feasibility, or practicality. His underground transit ideas have already been solved by better technology that was invented over 100 years ago. Mars colonization is just LOL.

Let's put Musk's ideas into perspective. Would you call pursuit of nuclear powered jetpacks that promises to revolutionize personal transport "inspirational?" No. It's just a dumb idea not worth considering beyond mockery. Many of Musk's ideas reside in the nuclear jet pack tier of speculation and plausibility.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/shmcminn/status/1256373958296899585?s=20

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/shmcminn/status/1256373958296899585?s=20

Anecdotally I see that. It's a mission accomplished mentality.

[DMC]

This is such a cliched counterargument to the criticism of dumb ideas by so-called "visionaries" like Musk. Not every idea is of equal worth, feasibility, or practicality. His underground transit ideas have already been solved by better technology that was invented over 100 years ago. Mars colonization is just LOL.

Let's put Musk's ideas into perspective. Would you call pursuit of nuclear powered jetpacks that promises to revolutionize personal transport "inspirational?" No. It's just a dumb idea not worth considering beyond mockery. Many of Musk's ideas reside in the nuclear jet pack tier of speculation and plausibility.

If his name was Bob Smith no one would give him a second thought.

[midnightpulp]

Their Starlink low orbit satellite system could be a huge moneymaker, disrupting cell operators. He'll likely face competition in this area at a latter date, but the fact that they're first to market is a big opportunity for them.

And satellite internet is a proven concept, since transmitting and receiving signals is what satellites have done for 60 some years. And some regions already have it (like rural regions in Australia). Musk's fanboys will probably think he "invented it," though. :lol

[ducks]

Open the mother fucking country now


https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/95513063_4072085116149836_1968828478958600192_n.jp g?_nc_cat=101&_nc_sid=8024bb&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_oc=AQnj5RtH0QBTg1F2WzMtMtnVQqc5xoxK2VayeSUpR3B DGVOW_uWrtY-9KQlV8OIE-YiIbAp1bOaAWC6uyWwU025E&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-1.xx&_nc_tp=14&oh=f28d5d1d5585c5a9c312314dc6af7fa2&oe=5ED22B68

[midnightpulp]

If his name was Bob Smith no one would give him a second thought.

I'm waiting for Musk to reintroduce the climate controlled domed city concept to the masses and throw a few billion at it.

[RandomGuy]

How is Elon Musk's rocket company doing?

Better than his tunnel company. They have gotten some contracting for the first US built rocket, and potential moon/mars shots.

[diego]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/26/heads-we-win-tails-you-lose-how-americas-rich-have-turned-pandemic-into-profit

Im sure someone here will be able to explain why the economic fallout of corona is falling entirely on the poor and middle class while the wealthiest abuse the "welfare state!" to become wealthier still, and more importantly why this is a good thing for a healthy, capitalist representative democracy

[phxspurfan]

Anecdotally I see that. It's a mission accomplished mentality.

personally in my area, we have flattened the curve, which is all physical distancing can do. Without the state government providing testing (which to most they have not), there can be no perfect system of containing the virus, just flattening the curve to let people have their best chance at surviving when they hit the hospital bed (for those who need it).


We as citizens have done our part. Still waiting on the other part that we were not responsible for.


And I'm not a republican.

[ElNono]

And satellite internet is a proven concept, since transmitting and receiving signals is what satellites have done for 60 some years. And some regions already have it (like rural regions in Australia). Musk's fanboys will probably think he "invented it," though. :lol

Well, it was a big risk, you gotta give him that. Everybody and their mother talked about constellation of low orbit satellites, there's no other way to pull this off, but his company is one of the few that put they money where their mouth is.

[ChumpDumper]

personally in my area, we have flattened the curve, which is all physical distancing can do. Without the state government providing testing (which to most they have not), there can be no perfect system of containing the virus, just flattening the curve to let people have their best chance at surviving when they hit the hospital bed (for those who need it).


We as citizens have done our part. Still waiting on the other part that we were not responsible for.


And I'm not a republican.Right, we've been holding at about 50 new cases a day in Austin. Without testing and tracing that's just gonna go up this month.

[DarrinS]

I wonder how much the panic press has contributed to the death toll? People are so scared that they aren't seeking treatment until they are VERY ill.

[DMC]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/26/heads-we-win-tails-you-lose-how-americas-rich-have-turned-pandemic-into-profit

Im sure someone here will be able to explain why the economic fallout of corona is falling entirely on the poor and middle class while the wealthiest abuse the "welfare state!" to become wealthier still, and more importantly why this is a good thing for a healthy, capitalist representative democracy

You'd almost think it's disadvantageous to be poor.

[DMC]

I wonder how much the panic press has contributed to the death toll? People are so scared that they aren't seeking treatment until they are VERY ill.

Just the opposite. People get ill from socializing then go visit their mammy in the nursing home or they work there and the elderly have fuck all for a chance.

[ducks]

Damm flu
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/95100237_264960998227421_4157948781171572736_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=104&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_oc=AQl5YNhb-RZjrwEby0WK7TgPgIIay3O-ZsrbXv8BV10fXsryi6ZO048dBDVhGx4df0yThuL5jGBTgvWW5u q3bKLd&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-1.xx&_nc_tp=14&oh=98663fa913ed358a978c6177274f817d&oe=5ED19FB6

[DarrinS]

Just the opposite. People get ill from socializing then go visit their mammy in the nursing home or they work there and the elderly have fuck all for a chance.

I disagree. Treat patients earlier, and keep them off VENTILATORS!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKHgDcbFTcM

[ChumpDumper]

Damm flu
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/95100237_264960998227421_4157948781171572736_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=104&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_oc=AQl5YNhb-RZjrwEby0WK7TgPgIIay3O-ZsrbXv8BV10fXsryi6ZO048dBDVhGx4df0yThuL5jGBTgvWW5u q3bKLd&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-1.xx&_nc_tp=14&oh=98663fa913ed358a978c6177274f817d&oe=5ED19FB6How long is flu season, ducks?

[slick'81]

Damm flu
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/95100237_264960998227421_4157948781171572736_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=104&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_oc=AQl5YNhb-RZjrwEby0WK7TgPgIIay3O-ZsrbXv8BV10fXsryi6ZO048dBDVhGx4df0yThuL5jGBTgvWW5u q3bKLd&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-1.xx&_nc_tp=14&oh=98663fa913ed358a978c6177274f817d&oe=5ED19FB6


Man sucks for ny,conn,geo,illi,ind,lou,mass,mar,mich,nj,

[DMC]

I disagree. Treat patients earlier, and keep them off VENTILATORS!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKHgDcbFTcM

If the extreme cases are "overwhelming the system", having everyone flood the ERs would be exponentially more problematic.

[DMC]

Damm flu
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/95100237_264960998227421_4157948781171572736_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=104&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_oc=AQl5YNhb-RZjrwEby0WK7TgPgIIay3O-ZsrbXv8BV10fXsryi6ZO048dBDVhGx4df0yThuL5jGBTgvWW5u q3bKLd&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-1.xx&_nc_tp=14&oh=98663fa913ed358a978c6177274f817d&oe=5ED19FB6

Imagine having 2 mortgages and saying "well, this new one is 1800.00 a month but our 1st one is 3200.00 a month so the cheaper one is basically non-existent.

You wouldn't say that. You'd say "we are spending 5000 a month for mortgages instead of 3200.00"

Additional deaths aren't ok just because they aren't numerically as significant as other illness related deaths.

[boutons_deux]

Officials announce 91 more COVID-19 cases at Bexar County Jail; National Guard to assist in statewide virus testing next week

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2020/05/02/watch-officials-announce-91-more-covid-19-cases-at-bexar-county-jail-national-guard-to-assist-in-statewide-virus-testing-next-week/

[Blake]

Officials announce 91 more COVID-19 cases at Bexar County Jail; National Guard to assist in statewide virus testing next week

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2020/05/02/watch-officials-announce-91-more-covid-19-cases-at-bexar-county-jail-national-guard-to-assist-in-statewide-virus-testing-next-week/

Jeez. Bad bad situation with not much of a solution.

[slick'81]

Officials announce 91 more COVID-19 cases at Bexar County Jail; National Guard to assist in statewide virus testing next week

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2020/05/02/watch-officials-announce-91-more-covid-19-cases-at-bexar-county-jail-national-guard-to-assist-in-statewide-virus-testing-next-week/


Here comes the boom san antonio

[midnightpulp]

How long is flu season, ducks?

Ducks is another one who doesn't understand how increasing/reducing the R0 can contribute to exponential growth/decline. We see in the regions that failed to control the outbreak a significant amount of more deaths than the flu. And we've only been tracking Covid deaths for about 2 months vs. 7 months for flu season.

[ElNono]

I wonder how much the panic press has contributed to the death toll? People are so scared that they aren't seeking treatment until they are VERY ill.

Is that really what you're wondering? Up to not long ago, you couldn't get tested, much less treatment, unless your symptoms were severe enough.

[ElNono]

If the extreme cases are "overwhelming the system", having everyone flood the ERs would be exponentially more problematic.

Exactly, thus why ERs won't even give you the time of the day unless you're visibly fucked.

[slick'81]

Well shit

The federal government is eyeing a new strategy for monitoring the spread of the deadly coronavirus. It involves poop.
The U.S. has struggled to keep pace with other advanced countries on coronavirus testing, and now is considering tracking the spread of the virus through sewage systems as a way to predict where the next hot spot may be.

Jay Butler, deputy director for infectious diseases at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, raised the intriguing possibility on Monday in a conference call with private-sector representatives, according to audio of the call reviewed by POLITICO. Most of the discussion had the grave and staid tone that has characterized public health officials' conversations about the virus that has infected more than 1 million Americans and killed more than 60,000. Butler fielded prescreened questions on a host of buttoned-up topics, including face-mask use, sick leave and contact tracing.



Because the novel coronavirus can be detected in feces within three days of infection — days before mostindividuals begin showing symptoms — there is hope that wastewater monitoring could provide an early warning of new outbreaks of the virus as the country tries to avoid a second-wave of the pandemic that could arise as states begin to open up. Even if testing capacity ramps up, monitoring sewers could alert public health and other local and state government officials to a coming wave of infections days before patients need hospital beds.


“It does raise the intriguing possibility, though, that wastewater could potentially be monitored for the presence of the RNA as a marker for whether or not it’s in the community,” he said. “If you’re new to public health, that may seem really odd but that’s actually a practice that’s been done for literally decades to look for reemergence of polio viruses in parts of the world where polio has been eradicated.”
While wastewater surveillance has been used for years in developing countries to detect outbreaks of polio, in the U.S., it has been used more recently to track opioid use within communities. A spokesperson for the CDC confirmed that the agency is eyeing wastewater as part of its response to the pandemic, though it is not yet doing so.
"At this time, CDC is exploring the potential for wastewater testing to inform the response, but we are not conducting any testing at CDC," the spokesperson said in a statement. "However, there are external groups that are currently conducting wastewater testing."

[boutons_deux]

Trash/Miller/evangelical concentration camp news

Coronavirus: Immigration detention centres in crisis

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52476131

[boutons_deux]

“I Do Not Want to Die in Here”: Letters From the Houston Jail

A series of letters from detainees in one of America’s largest jails reveals

the mounting dread and uncertainty as the coronavirus spreads inside the 7,500-inmate facility.

As of Thursday,

392 inmates were infected with the coronavirus, according to the jail,

along with 200 staff members.

https://www.propublica.org/article/i-do-not-want-to-die-in-here-letters-from-the-houston-jail?utm_source=pardot&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=majorinvestigations&utm_content=river

[boutons_deux]

Poll Shows Tens of Millions of Americans Would

Avoid Covid-19 Treatment Over Cost Fears

"A country that puts people in this situation

is not a country upholding its responsibility to its citizens."

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/04/29/poll-shows-tens-millions-americans-would-avoid-covid-19-treatment-over-cost-fears?cd-origin=rss&utm_term=AO&utm_campaign=Weekly%20Newsletter&utm_content=email&utm_source=Weekly%20Newsletter&utm_medium=Email (https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/04/29/poll-shows-tens-millions-americans-would-avoid-covid-19-treatment-over-cost-fears?cd-origin=rss&utm_term=AO&utm_campaign=Weekly%20Newsletter&utm_content=email&utm_source=Weekly%20Newsletter&utm_medium=Email)

What will remdesivir (whatever treatment) and a vaccine cost?

[boutons_deux]

THEY WERE WARNED NOT TO TAKE SICK DAYS —

THEN SIX WORKERS AT THEIR WAREHOUSE DIED OF CORONAVIRUS

AT LEAST SIX people who worked in a Long Island, New York, warehouse leased by Broadridge Financial Solutions have died of Covid-19

employees of TMG Mail Solutions, a Broadridge contractor that prints and mails financial documents, had been pressured to work during the Covid-19 pandemic even as some of their co-workers tested positive for the virus.

The workers also expressed concerns that

delays in the provision of personal protective equipment like masks and gloves

made an outbreak inevitable.

Broadridge Financial Solutions

is a global financial services company that made nearly

$4.4 billion in revenue last year.

https://theintercept.com/2020/04/30/coronavirus-warehouse-deaths-broadridge/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=The%20Intercept%20Newsletter (https://theintercept.com/2020/04/30/coronavirus-warehouse-deaths-broadridge/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=The%20Intercept%20Newsletter)

The sadistic inhumanity of Capitalism, where Labor is expendable.

[boutons_deux]

Cashing In on Pandemic?

Documents Show Lawmakers Made 1,500 Stock Transactions Worth $158 Million as Covid-19 Spread

"As Covid-19 cases began to increase, senators and representatives

from both parties traded securities—many related to the pandemic itself."

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/04/30/cashing-pandemic-documents-show-lawmakers-made-1500-stock-transactions-worth-158?cd-origin=rss&utm_term=AO&utm_campaign=Weekly%20Newsletter&utm_content=email&utm_source=Weekly%20Newsletter&utm_medium=Email (https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/04/30/cashing-pandemic-documents-show-lawmakers-made-1500-stock-transactions-worth-158?cd-origin=rss&utm_term=AO&utm_campaign=Weekly%20Newsletter&utm_content=email&utm_source=Weekly%20Newsletter&utm_medium=Email)

[benefactor]

Ducks is another one who doesn't understand how increasing/reducing the R0 can contribute to exponential growth/decline.
Ducks doesn't understand much of anything tbh

[boutons_deux]

Hundreds Infected With COVID-19 in ICE Detention Centers

Amid a raging pandemic, immigrant detainees say they are double bunked in cells and that guards don’t wear protective equipment.

With more than 30,000 people in ICE custody (https://www.ice.gov/detention-management) nationwide, ICE has, as of April 28,

425 confirmed cases of COVID-19 (https://www.ice.gov/coronavirus) among detainees,

plus an additional 36 cases among its employees working in detention centers.

“We’re hearing from our clients that they’re still double bunked in cells,

that they’re still moving in groups out to the cafeteria or out to the medical unit.

We’re hearing about guards not wearing protective equipment,”

https://capitalandmain.com/hundreds-infected-with-covid-19-in-ice-detention-centers-0429

[leemajors]

Ducks doesn't understand much of anything tbh

Duck hunt elk fix computer

[DMC]

Duck hunt elk fix computer

See-um white man Kimosabe

[boutons_deux]

"In the U.S. harvesting of crops is already underway and

will peak as the weather gets warmer and fieldworkers

who work and sleep in groups

are particularly susceptible to COVID-19 infections.

There are about 2.5 million to 3 million workers (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-29/on-the-food-supply-front-line-workers-face-an-impossible-choice?fbclid=IwAR0vGJPWTSrXGWjy4m40BH5M4QFiMN9EUU IM38VQeNVmuqUYPfD7sIEHwZo) on farms of all sizes,

with about 3/4 estimated to be foreign born."

https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/05/01/roaming-charges-american-thanatos-incorporated/

[boutons_deux]

"Across Oregon, Latinos have disproportionately tested positive for COVID-19,

making up 27% of cases but just 13% of the state’s population.

The disparity is especially acute in the agricultural areas of the Willamette Valley.

Over half of Marion County residents who got a positive test back between April 25 and April 27 live in Woodburn,

according to a Salem Reporter analysis (https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavirus/2020/04/coronavirus-cases-flare-in-woodburn-center-of-oregons-farmworker-population.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=oregonian_sf&fbclid=IwAR0KncG1xecvuAg01ANu0qEiC8QGPsjxTYilP0yYO F7JjRyWW1IhBJJYKnw) of Marion County data.

Woodburn, a majority Hispanic town, makes up less than 10% of the county’s population."

https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/05/01/roaming-charges-american-thanatos-incorporated/ (https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/05/01/roaming-charges-american-thanatos-incorporated/)

[Spurs Homer]

I wonder how much the panic press has contributed to the death toll? People are so scared that they aren't seeking treatment until they are VERY ill.

that is NOT what is happening at all

people are being turned away or sent right back home due to this administrations shitty guidelines
which is “only test symptomatic ppl”

or

only admit very sick people

those people go home and return when they are dying

the lack of testing is what will eventually be determined to be the biggest crime on humanity in centuries

on the other hand - nonexistant testing will keep disinfectant donnie’s numbers lower
and his cult will keep defending his crimes against humanity

[baseline bum]

Ducks is another one who doesn't understand how increasing/reducing the R0 can contribute to exponential growth/decline. We see in the regions that failed to control the outbreak a significant amount of more deaths than the flu. And we've only been tracking Covid deaths for about 2 months vs. 7 months for flu season.

And virtually the US deaths have been the last month.

[baseline bum]

I wonder how much the panic press has contributed to the death toll? People are so scared that they aren't seeking treatment until they are VERY ill.

Blame the press. Don't blame the guy actually in charge of the response?

[TSA]

Can someone explain the updated CDC provisional deaths which are now showing 37,308 deaths. If coding U07.1 includes confirmed and presumed Covid 19 deaths where are the additional 30,000 coming from?


https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/index.htm

1.Deaths with confirmed or presumed COVID-19, coded to ICD–10 code U07.1

[boutons_deux]

Coronavirus gets a promising drug. MAGA world isn’t buying it.


On the heels of positive early signs for remdesivir,

several prominent Trump boosters are downplaying the results and

continuing to promote hydroxychloroquine. :lol

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/02/donald-trump-coronavirus-remdesivir-229765 (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/02/donald-trump-coronavirus-remdesivir-229765)

the self-indoctrination,

the rinse-and-repeat brainwashing,

the cult mob no more rational that Jim Jones' suicide club

[boutons_deux]

"Unreal: 70 percent (https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/495423-7-in-10-federal-prisoners-tested-for-coronavirus-have-positive-results) of federal inmates who have been tested for coronavirus have COVID-19."

"How Concentration Camps Kill: 60% of the people (https://www.newsweek.com/60-percent-ice-detainees-tested-have-coronavirus-1500817) detained by ICE who’ve been tested have Covid-19…"

https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/05/01/roaming-charges-american-thanatos-incorporated/ (https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/05/01/roaming-charges-american-thanatos-incorporated/)

[midnightpulp]

Can someone explain the updated CDC provisional deaths which are now showing 37,308 deaths. If coding U07.1 includes confirmed and presumed Covid 19 deaths where are the additional 30,000 coming from?


https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/index.htm

1.Deaths with confirmed or presumed COVID-19, coded to ICD–10 code U07.1

I'm thinking those are 100 percent confirmed Covid cases via a test and not "probable" deaths via observed symptoms. I saw this on Justin Hart's twitter, as well. Not sure why he's using it to make a point, though?

Notice the peak pneumonia deaths as Covid was peaking in the US. Nearly 10K. Flu season is usually pretty much done by this time, so we can't necessarily attribute the huge spike in pneumonia deaths to both flu and Covid in an equal amount. Oh, N/M. They actually list flu deaths. And for 4-11, it was 430 vs. 9800 pneumonia due to an "unknown" cause. Pretty sure Covid was that cause. If flu wasn't responsible for the spike in pneumonia deaths, what else was?

I also don't know why Hart and "Team Reality" keep posting data that show Covid is far worse than the flu. Hart posted this the other day, as well. https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/fluview/mortality.html

Pneumonia deaths peaked twice over their usual average during this time.

[midnightpulp]

Also TSA


NOTE: Number of deaths reported in this table are the total number of deaths received and coded as of the date of analysis and do not represent all deaths that occurred in that period. The United States population, based on 2018 postcensal estimates from the U.S. Census Bureau, is 327,167,434.
*Data during this period are incomplete because of the lag in time between when the death occurred and when the death certificate is completed, submitted to NCHS and processed for reporting purposes.

[Blake]

Trump doing Trump things

"WASHINGTON — President Trump moved on Friday night to replace a top official at the Department of Health and Human Services who angered him with a report last month highlighting supply shortages and testing delays at hospitals during the coronavirus pandemic.

The White House waited until after business hours to announce the nomination of a new inspector general for the department who, if confirmed, would take over for Christi A. Grimm, the principal deputy inspector general who was publicly assailed by the president at a news briefing three weeks ago...."

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/01/us/politics/trump-health-department-watchdog.html

[midnightpulp]

https://www.mediaite.com/online/twitter-locks-candace-owens-out-over-tweet-telling-michigan-residents-to-violate-lockdown-she-claims/

:tu

[TSA]

I'm thinking those are 100 percent confirmed Covid cases via a test and not "probable" deaths via observed symptoms. I saw this on Justin Hart's twitter, as well. Not sure why he's using it to make a point, though?

Notice the peak pneumonia deaths as Covid was peaking in the US. Nearly 10K. Flu season is usually pretty much done by this time, so we can't necessarily attribute the huge spike in pneumonia deaths to both flu and Covid in an equal amount. Oh, N/M. They actually list flu deaths. And for 4-11, it was 430 vs. 9800 pneumonia due to an "unknown" cause. Pretty sure Covid was that cause. If flu wasn't responsible for the spike in pneumonia deaths, what else was?

I also don't know why Hart and "Team Reality" keep posting data that show Covid is far worse than the flu. Hart posted this the other day, as well. https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/fluview/mortality.html

Pneumonia deaths peaked twice over their usual average during this time.

But they aren’t 100% confirmed Covid 19 via a test and include probable.

“Coronavirus disease deaths are identified using the ICD–10 code U07.1. Deaths are coded to U07.1 when coronavirus disease 2019 or COVID-19 are reported as a cause that contributed to death on the death certificate. These can include laboratory confirmed cases, as well as cases without laboratory confirmation. If the certifier suspects COVID-19 or determines it was likely (e.g., the circumstances were compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty), they can report COVID-19 as “probable” or “presumed” on the death certificate (5, 6).”

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/tech_notes.htm

[TSA]

Trump doing Trump things

"WASHINGTON — President Trump moved on Friday night to replace a top official at the Department of Health and Human Services who angered him with a report last month highlighting supply shortages and testing delays at hospitals during the coronavirus pandemic.

The White House waited until after business hours to announce the nomination of a new inspector general for the department who, if confirmed, would take over for Christi A. Grimm, the principal deputy inspector general who was publicly assailed by the president at a news briefing three weeks ago...."

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/01/us/politics/trump-health-department-watchdog.htmlNYT doing NYT things

Admiral Giroir (April 7): ..."If there was such a problem that she knew about or he knew about on March 23rd and 24th, why did I find out about the test from them on the news media at 8 o’clock this morning?"

[midnightpulp]

But they aren’t 100% confirmed Covid 19 via a test and include probable.

“Coronavirus disease deaths are identified using the ICD–10 code U07.1. Deaths are coded to U07.1 when coronavirus disease 2019 or COVID-19 are reported as a cause that contributed to death on the death certificate. These can include laboratory confirmed cases, as well as cases without laboratory confirmation. If the certifier suspects COVID-19 or determines it was likely (e.g., the circumstances were compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty), they can report COVID-19 as “probable” or “presumed” on the death certificate (5, 6).”

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/tech_notes.htm

Data lag from official death certificates might be the reason for the 37K count on the CDC site right now.

I know the conspiracy theorists are going to be all over this, but who really cares? Look how pneumonia deaths were pretty linear week to week and then shot up to 9800 on 4-11. For a state-by-state breakdown (scroll down), hard hit areas like New York, NJ, and many Eastern states are seeing 10 to 50 times the amount of deaths attributable to Covid vs. the flu during this time.

Not sure what further convincing "Team Reality" (Hart, Berenson, Ginn, etc) really need that this isn't the flu and if you let it run its course, it'll kill many more people than the worst flu seasons.

Note. Just saw they have Connecticut at 120 deaths. Yeah, lag. Connecticut, per their official site, has 2339 deaths. https://portal.ct.gov/coronavirus

Surprised Hart didn't catch this, but I know he has an agenda, so per par.

[midnightpulp]

^ And many other states on the CDC site don't match the official count from the individual state's tracking pages.

[Blake]

NYT doing NYT things

Admiral Giroir (April 7): ..."If there was such a problem that she knew about or he knew about on March 23rd and 24th, why did I find out about the test from them on the news media at 8 o’clock this morning?"

Trump shield doing shield things

[TSA]

Trump shield doing shield things

Blake running to post the latest orangeman bad article without doing any research per par.

[TSA]

^ And many other states on the CDC site don't match the official count from the individual state's tracking pages.

Data lag could account for it I just found it odd and wanted to understand how the CDC has two sets of death totals.

[Blake]

Blake running to post the latest orangeman bad article without doing any research per par.

Because NYT doesn't do research like 4chan does!



"......Three out of 4 U.S. hospitals told the inspector general's office they are already treating patients with confirmed or suspected COVID-19, and they expect to be overwhelmed. The report did not criticize Trump administration actions.

Asked by a reporter about the survey's finding on testing, Trump responded, “It is wrong.”

“So, give me the name of the inspector general?” he asked before suggesting without evidence, “Could politics be entered into that?”....

"When was she appointed?"
....

"They did serve in the previous admin — you mean the Obama administration?” Trump asked a reporter who pressed on with questions. “Thank you for telling me that ... there’s a typical fake news deal.”



https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/worst-hospitals-facing-covid-19-69993325

[midnightpulp]

Data lag could account for it I just found it odd and wanted to understand how the CDC has two sets of death totals.

Yeah, wasn't trying to call you out for using that data to appeal to conspiracy, but the "Team Reality" contingent on twitter has come to annoy me. I appreciate Hart and Ginn's work in the early days. Ginn's article was a welcome Devil's Advocate at the time when everyone was predicting 2.2 million deaths with 60 million infected (meaning Covid could potentially kill 10 million Americans) and comparing Covid to the black plague. And Hart was on point examining some of the data quirks (screen scraping bots not aligning the actual date of deaths), but they've gone "full retard," in their Devil's Advocacy now. Just because Covid isn't the Black Plague, doesn't mean it's not very serious and that the stay-at-home orders aren't justified.

They don't seem to understand R0 and the exponential consequences either way, which is odd for data guys. Reducing R0 by just .5 (like 2.5 to 2.0) is huge. The fact that many hospitals aren't overwhelmed and not every region became New York is because we've changed the virus's course through our efforts, not because the virus was "overstated." New York and New Jersey are examples of what the virus is capable of given an optimal environment.

I realize many regions don't provide that optimal environment (mass transit, weather, population density), but this virus could still turn Los Angeles or Chicago into a nightmare.

[TSA]

Because NYT doesn't do research like 4chan does!



"......Three out of 4 U.S. hospitals told the inspector general's office they are already treating patients with confirmed or suspected COVID-19, and they expect to be overwhelmed. The report did not criticize Trump administration actions.

Asked by a reporter about the survey's finding on testing, Trump responded, “It is wrong.”

“So, give me the name of the inspector general?” he asked before suggesting without evidence, “Could politics be entered into that?”....

"When was she appointed?"
....

"They did serve in the previous admin — you mean the Obama administration?” Trump asked a reporter who pressed on with questions. “Thank you for telling me that ... there’s a typical fake news deal.”



https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/worst-hospitals-facing-covid-19-69993325

That has nothing to do with her never telling the Assistant Secretary of Health at the HHS and him learning it over two weeks later from the news. Not sure why you went through the trouble of even posting that.

[TSA]

Yeah, wasn't trying to call you out for using that data to appeal to conspiracy, but the "Team Reality" contingent on twitter has come to annoy me. I appreciate Hart and Ginn's work in the early days. Ginn's article was a welcome Devil's Advocate at the time when everyone was predicting 2.2 million deaths with 60 million infected (meaning Covid could potentially kill 10 million Americans) and comparing Covid to the black plague. And Hart was on point examining some of the data quirks (screen scraping bots not aligning the actual date of deaths), but they've gone "full retard," in their Devil's Advocacy now. Just because Covid isn't the Black Plague, doesn't mean it's not very serious and that the stay-at-home orders aren't justified.

They don't seem to understand R0 and the exponential consequences either way, which is odd for data guys. Reducing R0 by just .5 (like 2.5 to 2.0) is huge. The fact that many hospitals aren't overwhelmed and not every region became New York is because we've changed the virus's course through our efforts, not because the virus was "overstated." New York and New Jersey are examples of what the virus is capable of given an optimal environment.

I realize many regions don't provide that optimal environment (mass transit, weather, population density), but this virus could still turn Los Angeles or Chicago into a nightmare.

It’s crazy how far we’ve come since the 2.2 million death predictions. Seems to me most of “team reality” complaints now are that the reason for the lockdowns were so the hospitals weren’t overwhelmed. Not only were they not overwhelmed, not even New York, but now thousands of hospital workers are being furloughed because there are no patients. “team reality” also sees no reason for schools to be closed as study after study are showing kids not only don’t die from it they also don’t pass the virus to others. I agree with them on that point, schools should be reopened. Too many kids are losing out on education, missing meals, and being abused at home for a virus that poses little to no risk to the them.

[ElNono]

It’s crazy how far we’ve come since the 2.2 million death predictions. Seems to me most of “team reality” complaints now are that the reason for the lockdowns were so the hospitals weren’t overwhelmed. Not only were they not overwhelmed, not even New York, but now thousands of hospital workers are being furloughed because there are no patients. “team reality” also sees no reason for schools to be closed as study after study are showing kids not only don’t die from it they also don’t pass the virus to others. I agree with them on that point, schools should be reopened. Too many kids are losing out on education, missing meals, and being abused at home for a virus that poses little to no risk to the them.

Well, we're not anywhere near 'done' with this virus, and the argument that some people might lose jobs because hospitals weren't overwhelmed (thanks to social distancing no less) pales in comparison to the number of deaths if they were actually overwhelmed.

[midnightpulp]

It’s crazy how far we’ve come since the 2.2 million death predictions. Seems to me most of “team reality” complaints now are that the reason for the lockdowns were so the hospitals weren’t overwhelmed. Not only were they not overwhelmed, not even New York, but now thousands of hospital workers are being furloughed because there are no patients. “team reality” also sees no reason for schools to be closed as study after study are showing kids not only don’t die from it they also don’t pass the virus to others. I agree with them on that point, schools should be reopened. Too many kids are losing out on education, missing meals, and being abused at home for a virus that poses little to no risk to the them.

New York hospitals were overwhelmed in the city. I do think elective surgeries should be allowed again. A life is a life, so saving a life by removing a tumor before it spreads is just as important as treating a Covid case. This was a big fuckup on the lockdown planning. Sure, open schools. Where I break with "Team Reality," is their constant emotional appeal to "30 million unemployed. Open up now!" Opening up private hospitals, schools, parks, and beaches isn't going to do that much for the economy. The service sector employs many of those out of work, and that industry, whether it's food and drink service, personal grooming service, fitness, entertainment, is gone for the next year at least. So what is opening up going to achieve here? A bar opens up, gets maybe a 3rd of his regular business, goes under in a month anyway, and the only result was an uptick in infections.

We can turn their favorite example of Sweden back around on them. Even though Sweden isn't under mandatory orders to stay home, most of them are. Many businesses there are closing.


"Many people stay at home and have stopped travelling. Many businesses are collapsing. Unemployment is expected to rise dramatically," Linde said.

The reality is life will not get back to normal until people feel safe. Even young people will be cautious to go out, because many millennials and such still live with their parents, and they probably don't want to risk getting the virus at a bar and then coming home and giving it to their parents.

[midnightpulp]

Well, we're not anywhere near 'done' with this virus, and the argument that some people might lose jobs because hospitals weren't overwhelmed (thanks to social distancing no less) pales in comparison to the number of deaths if they were actually overwhelmed.

I believe in the warm weather/UV light theory, and think we'll see a big reduction in transmission during the summer, but my fear is we'll get complacent thinking we've "beat the virus," and Trump will declare victory and hold some asinine 4th of July rally. Life will be inching back to normal, and then Fall hits. Trump and/or governors might be hesitant to sound the alarm since they fear people won't go for another lockdown disruption. Covid was seeded and peaked pretty late into flu season. Now imagine Covid being seeded in October and November and now coinciding with flu season?

[ElNono]

I believe in the warm weather/UV light theory, and think we'll see a big reduction in transmission during the summer, but my fear is we'll get complacent thinking we've "beat the virus," and Trump will declare victory and hold some asinine 4th of July rally. Life will be inching back to normal, and then Fall hits. Trump and/or governors might be hesitant to sound the alarm since they fear people won't go for another lockdown disruption. Covid was seeded and peaked pretty late into flu season. Now imagine Covid being seeded in October and November and now coinciding with flu season?

Well, there's darwinism at work here. You can't talk your way around the virus, and it doesn't care about parties or feelings either. In a sense, it's the ultimate equalizer. And so we'll see how things work out.

Hopefully we'll have more testing in place by then, and some sort of contact tracing, at least to have people that want to be better informed, being able to do so.

[Reck]

It's hot as fuck today so people are out in full force today. I cant blame them.

I'm cooking at home. I'm definitely debating whether I should take in the day but for right now, I'm staying in. Tomorrow is supposed to be 80 degrees so yeah.

[Blake]

That has nothing to do with her never telling the Assistant Secretary of Health at the HHS and him learning it over two weeks later from the news. Not sure why you went through the trouble of even posting that.

It's just Trump doing Trump things. Goalpost moving is tsa doing tsa things.

[Blake]

I believe in the warm weather/UV light theory, and think we'll see a big reduction in transmission during the summer..

Everything I've seen says that warm weather probably has little effect on slowing the spread.

[boutons_deux]

Verified Twitter Roasts Report That Trump’s Campaign Has Ordered MAGA-Themed Coronavirus Masks



https://am12.mediaite.com/med/cnt/uploads/2020/05/Trump-coronavirus-mask-GettyImages-1210379255.jpg

https://www.mediaite.com/news/verified-twitter-roasts-report-that-trumps-campaign-has-ordered-maga-themed-coronavirus-masks/

[Reck]

Verified Twitter Roasts Report That Trump’s Campaign Has Ordered MAGA-Themed Coronavirus Masks



https://am12.mediaite.com/med/cnt/uploads/2020/05/Trump-coronavirus-mask-GettyImages-1210379255.jpg

https://www.mediaite.com/news/verified-twitter-roasts-report-that-trumps-campaign-has-ordered-maga-themed-coronavirus-masks/

The money president.

That is, give me your money, sucker. The guy monitizes everything.

[TimDunkem]

"City ends face-mask rule for shoppers after store employees are threatened"
https://www.yahoo.com/news/city-ends-face-mask-rule-205822754.html

Methlahoma :lol

[boutons_deux]

"City ends face-mask rule for shoppers after store employees are threatened"
https://www.yahoo.com/news/city-ends-face-mask-rule-205822754.html

Methlahoma :lol

and the Methlahomans win with violence, bad faith beats good faith, LIES beat truth

America "civilization" of a failed state in 2021, degraded, fucked up by red/slave states, Repugs, conservatives, oligarchy

[TSA]

New York hospitals were overwhelmed in the city. I do think elective surgeries should be allowed again. A life is a life, so saving a life by removing a tumor before it spreads is just as important as treating a Covid case. This was a big fuckup on the lockdown planning. Sure, open schools. Where I break with "Team Reality," is their constant emotional appeal to "30 million unemployed. Open up now!" Opening up private hospitals, schools, parks, and beaches isn't going to do that much for the economy. The service sector employs many of those out of work, and that industry, whether it's food and drink service, personal grooming service, fitness, entertainment, is gone for the next year at least. So what is opening up going to achieve here? A bar opens up, gets maybe a 3rd of his regular business, goes under in a month anyway, and the only result was an uptick in infections.

We can turn their favorite example of Sweden back around on them. Even though Sweden isn't under mandatory orders to stay home, most of them are. Many businesses there are closing.



The reality is life will not get back to normal until people feel safe. Even young people will be cautious to go out, because many millennials and such still live with their parents, and they probably don't want to risk getting the virus at a bar and then coming home and giving it to their parents.

I think you’re overestimating the amount of people that are too scared to get back to life as it was. This restaurant in California had to close early the first day they reopened because they ran out of food.

https://www.mtdemocrat.com/news/cafe-el-dorado-opens-for-dine-in-sheriffs-office-not-enforcing-state-orders/

[boutons_deux]

Don’t Forget the Other Pandemic Killing Thousands of Americans

Authorities nationwide are reporting anuptick in fatal opioid overdoses during social distancing.


https://www.thedailybeast.com/opioid-deaths-surge-during-coronavirus-in-americas-overdose-capitals

[boutons_deux]

I think you’re overestimating the amount of people that are too scared to get back to life as it was. This restaurant in California had to close early the first day they reopened because they ran out of food.

https://www.mtdemocrat.com/news/cafe-el-dorado-opens-for-dine-in-sheriffs-office-not-enforcing-state-orders/

useless anecdote from low-wage, low-income rural area

[pgardn]

Well, there's darwinism at work here. You can't talk your way around the virus, and it doesn't care about parties or feelings either. In a sense, it's the ultimate equalizer. And so we'll see how things work out.

Hopefully we'll have more testing in place by then, and some sort of contact tracing, at least to have people that want to be better informed, being able to do so.

No but the way we react to the virus is very telling.

WE can say the old and weak need to be gone and have zero restrictions on nursing homes.
Or WE could let it run it’s course and overwhelm hospitals and just abandon them.

It’s pretty clear our entire societal health (including the economy) does NOT function as individuals to be selected out. We have taken this Judeo-Christian idea of helping the downtrodden seriously and wove it into our culture. If Jesus could talk about Darwin I pretty sure he would use the living things that rely on societal structure as a case for survival of the individuals in that society and then go further and pronounce altruism where the helping individual puts itself at a disadvantage while saving the weak as the way to go.

[TSA]

useless anecdote from low-wage, low-income rural area

El Dorado County’s median income is comparable to San Diego :lol

[Fabbs]

Don’t Forget the Other Pandemic Killing Thousands of Americans

Authorities nationwide are reporting anuptick in fatal opioid overdoses during social distancing.


https://www.thedailybeast.com/opioid-deaths-surge-during-coronavirus-in-americas-overdose-capitals
Surely the politicians will put opioid manufacture and sales under quarantine.

[TSA]

No but the way we react to the virus is very telling.

WE can say the old and weak need to be gone and have zero restrictions on nursing homes.
Or WE could let it run it’s course and overwhelm hospitals and just abandon them.


Those aren’t the only two options. You can have extreme restrictions on nursing homes and at risk population and let the virus run its course through those who aren’t at risk.

[pgardn]

Those aren’t the only two options. You can have extreme restrictions on nursing homes and at risk population and let the virus run its course through those who aren’t at risk.

I gave those as purely Darwinian features based on perceived usefulness of the individual.

[baseline bum]

Those aren’t the only two options. You can have extreme restrictions on nursing homes and at risk population and let the virus run its course through those who aren’t at risk.

That means it runs its course unchecked through the nursing homes too since the nurses, custodians, cooks, etc all have it run unchecked through their families and thus run unchecked through them too.

[pgardn]

This is a very tough balancing act

We got this as well

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/california-city-official-ousted-over-his-pandemic-remarks-n1198716

[TSA]

That means it runs its course unchecked through the nursing homes too since the nurses, custodians, cooks, etc all have it run unchecked through their families and thus run unchecked through them too.

Did I need to bold extreme restrictions in my previous post?

[baseline bum]

Did I need to bold extreme restrictions in my previous post?

What are the extreme restrictions? Do they convert the nursing home workforce to robots?

[TSA]

What are the extreme restrictions? Do they convert the nursing home workforce to robots?

The same extreme restrictions you and I are practicing now.

[boutons_deux]

This is a very tough balancing act

We got this as well

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/california-city-official-ousted-over-his-pandemic-remarks-n1198716

That guy was blatant, but the message is fundamental to sadistic, psychopathic Repug/evangelical thinking.

O'Reilly said "they are on their last legs anyway" (so don't spend resources trying to protect or save them)

[baseline bum]

The same extreme restrictions you and I are practicing now.

How do nurses stay six feet away from their patients?

[pgardn]

The same extreme restrictions you and I are practicing now.

Im not getting checked for temperature or tested when I enter HEB.
Are all the workers getting tested... nope. Are some nursing homes still letting family in, yep....
These older folks are stuck in there.

And this is where we get our bigger numbers in specific localities all at once.

We have got such mixed up rules right now I get it.
It is a dangerous balancing act we are playing, I just hope the UV light of summer acts like it does with other viruses.
Personally I want to go back to work with people in the fall as this is really very scaled back not real productive work. We have to see faces and point at things right in front of us in 3-d. But I especially am going to be carefully scrutinized because of the nature of the work. People I work with clearly understand this stuff.

[pgardn]

That guy was blatant, but the sense behind his is fundamental to sadistic, psychopathic Repug/evangelical thinking.

O'Reilly said "they are on their last legs anyway" (so don't spend resources trying to protect or save them)

Yes it was meant to show one of the extremes.
Kind of like you showed that picture of Reade to illustrate, "do you really want to believe this thing?"

[boutons_deux]

Yes it was meant to show one of the extremes.
Kind of like you showed that picture of Reade to illustrate, "do you really want to believe this thing?"

as usual, your take on my posts are really fucking weird and way out in the weeds

[pgardn]

as usual, your take on my posts are really fucking weird and way out in the weeds

yeah sure.

So why the picture?
It was so incredibly liberal of you to show that women age poorly.
You try to separate yourself from the ultra conservative and you go and play that game.
Hypocrite. Oh '"this thing accused Biden"

Why the picture?

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1256944630941138944?s=19

[boutons_deux]

yeah sure.

So why the picture?
It was so incredibly liberal of you to show that women age poorly.
You try to separate yourself from the ultra conservative and you go and play that game.
Hypocrite. Oh '"this thing accused Biden"

Why the picture?

pure curiosity! :)

If she's telling the truth, then Biden should admit and move on.

Now we have noting but she said / he said.

Why should anyone believe Reade while Christine Ford was trashed, disbelieved?

Has the Dem side threatened Reade with death, forced her into hiding in the way that Repug/Kavanaugh supporters have done to Ford?

And why does Reade make it a big deal now? I bet she's been "paid" by the Repugs to make it a big deal, like a Paula Jones was paid.

[ducks]

Since Lieu & Newsom are all about numbers, here are some numbers. Orange County has 3.2 million people, that is more people than 21 entire states have. Orange County has 50 deaths from Coronavirus (12 of the 50 deaths have been in nursing homes), there are only 6 states that have less deaths and those states have less than half the population of Orange County. Newsom always says numbers don't lie.

[ChumpDumper]

Since Lieu & Newsom are all about numbers, here are some numbers. Orange County has 3.2 million people, that is more people than 21 entire states have. Orange County has 50 deaths from Coronavirus (12 of the 50 deaths have been in nursing homes), there are only 6 states that have less deaths and those states have less than half the population of Orange County. Newsom always says numbers don't lie.Yes, the restrictions have worked quite well there.

[TimDunkem]

Worldometer is listing available data from every county in Texas now: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/texas/

Moore county stands out.

[Blake]

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1256944630941138944?s=19

Muh 2nd amendment

[TSA]

https://mobile.twitter.com/crampell/status/1257015860679581698
vy65 :bobo

[baseline bum]

Worldometer is listing available data from every county in Texas now: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/texas/

Moore county stands out.

Wow that's nearly 2% of the county's population with active cases. Jeebus superspreader there?

[ChumpDumper]

Wow that's nearly 2% of the county's population with active cases. Jeebus superspreader there?Meat packing plant.

[Winehole23]

Quién sabe?

Cool if true.

1256969435211939841

[pgardn]

pure curiosity! :)

If she's telling the truth, then Biden should admit and move on.

Now we have noting but she said / he said.

Why should anyone believe Reade while Christine Ford was trashed, disbelieved?

Has the Dem side threatened Reade with death, forced her into hiding in the way that Repug/Kavanaugh supporters have done to Ford?

And why does Reade make it a big deal now? I bet she's been "paid" by the Repugs to make it a big deal, like a Paula Jones was paid.

BS

You want to trash her looks.
Or you would have just stated the above without a picture of her getting old and fat.
Now you see why conservatives get mad a liberals picking at their intentions and yours were clear.
But dont fear, the incel Spurtacular, came to your defense.

[DMC]

BigPharma good now

[phxspurfan]

https://www.endcoronavirus.org/daily-update-global


https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5e7b914b3b5f9a42199b3337/1588273238381-WP6VENOU0A361IVGY28Z/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kPTrHXgsMrSIMwe6YW3w1AZ7gQa3H7 8H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLf rh8O1z4YTzHvnKhyp6Da-NYroOW3ZGjoBKy3azqku80C789l0p52bY8kZn6Mpkp9xtPUVLh vLurswpbKwwoDWqBh58NLxQZMhB36LmtxTXHHtLwR3w/US_10_Texas_04_27.png





====================

Same plateau-ing in MA, from Boston Globe email





Six weeks after social distancing began,

Mass. coronavirus hospitalizations and cases remain high.

Why so little improvement?










Rewind the clock a month, to late March, as nonessential businesses were closing and

Governor Charlie Baker asked us to stay home to reduce the spread of coronavirus.

Where did we imagine we would be as a state by the start of May?

A lot further along than we are now.

It’s maddening:

More than six weeks after statewide social distancing measures began to take effect,

the number of hospitalizations for COVID-19 infections is stuck in a stubbornly high place, and

the daily death toll is at once tragic and numbing.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/04/30/metro/five-weeks-after-social-distancing-began-mass-covid-19-hospitalizations-cases-remain-high-why-so-little-improvement/?s_campaign=breakingnews:newsletter






https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5e7b914b3b5f9a42199b3337/1588455575963-DHAB47XZQQ8CGN2E35K6/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kPTrHXgsMrSIMwe6YW3w1AZ7gQa3H7 8H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLf rh8O1z4YTzHvnKhyp6Da-NYroOW3ZGjoBKy3azqku80C789l0p52bY8kZn6Mpkp9xtPUVLh vLurswpbKwwoDWqBh58NLxQZMhB36LmtxTXHHtLwR3w/US_10_Texas_04_27.png

[ChumpDumper]

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5e7b914b3b5f9a42199b3337/1588455575963-DHAB47XZQQ8CGN2E35K6/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kPTrHXgsMrSIMwe6YW3w1AZ7gQa3H7 8H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLf rh8O1z4YTzHvnKhyp6Da-NYroOW3ZGjoBKy3azqku80C789l0p52bY8kZn6Mpkp9xtPUVLh vLurswpbKwwoDWqBh58NLxQZMhB36LmtxTXHHtLwR3w/US_10_Texas_04_27.pngI suspect Easter had a bunch of people breaking protocol and it's starting to show.

[ducks]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/cough-going-back-movies-texas-160636639.html


Was That a Cough? Going Back to the Movies in Texas.

[vy65]

Worldometer is listing available data from every county in Texas now: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/texas/

Moore county stands out.

H:loluston

[Winehole23]

"City ends face-mask rule for shoppers after store employees are threatened"
https://www.yahoo.com/news/city-ends-face-mask-rule-205822754.html

Methlahoma :lol
When white people refuse to follow the rules, the rules get changed. Imagine that.

[slick'81]

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5e7b914b3b5f9a42199b3337/1588455575963-DHAB47XZQQ8CGN2E35K6/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kPTrHXgsMrSIMwe6YW3w1AZ7gQa3H7 8H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLf rh8O1z4YTzHvnKhyp6Da-NYroOW3ZGjoBKy3azqku80C789l0p52bY8kZn6Mpkp9xtPUVLh vLurswpbKwwoDWqBh58NLxQZMhB36LmtxTXHHtLwR3w/US_10_Texas_04_27.png

just 22 more months to go

[midnightpulp]

I suspect Easter had a bunch of people breaking protocol and it's starting to show.

Case increase could be a result of testing increase. Let's see (I have no idea, so we're holding our breath together here):

https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en/test

Hard to say. Texas performed a lot of tests on 5/1 and 5/2 for a 4 and 5% positive rate, which is outstanding. But were these tests actually performed on those days or are these a testing backlog that just got counted? I think Texas is looking pretty good, though. Hospitalizations remain dead flat and well under threshold. As I said earlier, I think Texas could try to reopen and then lockdown if cases really spike. We have to remember that the original motive for staying-at-home was to flatten the curve, not prevent everyone from infection. Texas is pretty damn flat.

[TSA]

Case increase could be a result of testing increase. Let's see (I have no idea, so we're holding our breath together here):

https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en/test

Hard to say. Texas performed a lot of tests on 5/1 and 5/2 for a 4 and 5% positive rate, which is outstanding. But were these tests actually performed on those days or are these a testing backlog that just got counted? I think Texas is looking pretty good, though. Hospitalizations remain dead flat and well under threshold. As I said earlier, I think Texas could try to reopen and then lockdown if cases really spike. We have to remember that the original motive for staying-at-home was to flatten the curve, not prevent everyone from infection. Texas is pretty damn flat.

Yeah at this point with testing ramping up as much as it is new cases aren’t as worrisome it’s hospitalizations that we should be focusing on.

[ChumpDumper]

Case increase could be a result of testing increase. Let's see (I have no idea, so we're holding our breath together here):

https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en/test

Hard to say. Texas performed a lot of tests on 5/1 and 5/2 for a 4 and 5% positive rate, which is outstanding. But were these tests actually performed on those days or are these a testing backlog that just got counted? I think Texas is looking pretty good, though. Hospitalizations remain dead flat and well under threshold. As I said earlier, I think Texas could try to reopen and then lockdown if cases really spike. We have to remember that the original motive for staying-at-home was to flatten the curve, not prevent everyone from infection. Texas is pretty damn flat.Right. I thought two-week declines were the goal before reopening but arbitrary date seems just as good. Cases and deaths are going to go up; I just want to know what numbers of deaths Abbott finds acceptable in a period of time. That's what it actually comes down to and it's the exact thing no one wants to talk about.

[midnightpulp]

Right. I thought two-week declines were the goal before reopening but arbitrary date seems just as good. Cases and deaths are going to go up; I just want to know what numbers of deaths Abbott finds acceptable in a period of time. That's what it actually comes down to and it's the exact thing no one wants to talk about.

Yeah, it's a tough decision. Ideally, I'd love a national program in place to pay people until the proven antivirals and hopefully a vaccine arrive, so we're not forced into choosing between the economy and death. That isn't going to happen, obviously. But people need to eat and pay their bills, so we're pretty much locked into having to open up and just addressing the consequences as they happen. Texas's population density, weather, and such should minimize the fallout, unlike New York where conditions were just optimal in every conceivable way.

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/95607993_10158577839824994_8128598930532335616_o.j pg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_sid=ca434c&_nc_ohc=0Y8kTF9_hO8AX8Sdenq&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&_nc_tp=7&oh=e9438e5404fc27cff24039610346dd91&oe=5ED42223

[DMC]

Case increase could be a result of testing increase. Let's see (I have no idea, so we're holding our breath together here):

https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en/test

Hard to say. Texas performed a lot of tests on 5/1 and 5/2 for a 4 and 5% positive rate, which is outstanding. But were these tests actually performed on those days or are these a testing backlog that just got counted? I think Texas is looking pretty good, though. Hospitalizations remain dead flat and well under threshold. As I said earlier, I think Texas could try to reopen and then lockdown if cases really spike. We have to remember that the original motive for staying-at-home was to flatten the curve, not prevent everyone from infection. Texas is pretty damn flat.

Look at NY tests vs positives. It's like 1/3rd of the tests are positive. California has like 1/12 as positive. Is Cali testing too much or NY too little?

[boutons_deux]

Live updates:

Protesters with no masks, distancing are ‘devastatingly worrisome,’ Birx says;

Pompeo claims ‘enormous evidence’ that coronavirus came from Wuhan lab


The United States recorded nearly 13,500 more deaths (https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2020/05/02/excess-deaths-during-covid-19/?arc404=true) that are now attributed to the novel coronavirus in March and the first two weeks of April.

Congressional leaders are girding for a huge fight over the reentry of millions of Americans to the workplace (https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/05/03/congress-coronavirus-legal-liability/).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/05/03/coronavirus-latest-news/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/05/03/coronavirus-latest-news/)

[midnightpulp]

Yeah at this point with testing ramping up as much as it is new cases aren’t as worrisome it’s hospitalizations that we should be focusing on.

Hospitalizations are indeed the best gauge. We're flat in California, but I can see why our officials might still be reluctant to open up. We're about 10 percent capacity according to https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en/test but we've been flat at 10 percent for 3 weeks, with stay-at-home. I would guess our officials want to see us cut down that rate to about 5 percent (where Texas is at) before opening more up.

[midnightpulp]

Look at NY tests vs positives. It's like 1/3rd of the tests are positive. California has like 1/12 as positive. Is Cali testing too much or NY too little?

I would guess the virus is just more transmissible in New York due to their pop density, mass transit use, weather, etc. NY has tested more than any other state, even per capita (aside from Rhode Island), so them testing too little isn't an issue. The prevalence is just crazy there. The most infected region in the world.

[boutons_deux]

Bill Gates, Big Picture Artist, points out that medical glass tubes to contain the treatment or vaccine are in short supply.

[slick'81]

Bill Gates, Big Picture Artist, points out that medical glass tubes to contain the treatment or vaccine are in short supply.


Its always something

[slick'81]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/some-texas-cities-nervous-governor-reopens-state-everybody-scared-n1198691


and soo it begins for texas

[DarrinS]

I would guess the virus is just more transmissible in New York due to their pop density, mass transit use, weather, etc. NY has tested more than any other state, even per capita (aside from Rhode Island), so them testing too little isn't an issue. The prevalence is just crazy there. The most infected region in the world.


I wonder if those are the most important factors and that lockdowns for other areas were not warranted.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/do-lockdowns-save-many-lives-is-most-places-the-data-say-no-11587930911

[DarrinS]

We had a two day spike in SA, but it was predominantly at the Bexar county jail.

[hater]

pigs being pigs

fucking dirty fat porkface

https://twitter.com/NYScanner/status/1256936672148717568?s=20

[midnightpulp]

I wonder if those are the most important factors and that lockdowns for other areas were not warranted.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/do-lockdowns-save-many-lives-is-most-places-the-data-say-no-11587930911

We can't say for sure. But guessing wrong on locking down is better than guessing wrong on not locking down. Guessing wrong on the former won't lead to more deaths, while guessing wrong on the latter can be tragic.

[hater]

holy shit new estimates are back to about 250k deaths

and 100k dead by end of June :wow

the 2nd wave in fall is going to be even deadlier :wow

holy shit :wow

[hater]

we could possibly be at 300k dead by Christmas eve

[slick'81]

holy shit new estimates are back to about 250k deaths

and 100k dead by end of June :wow

the 2nd wave in fall is going to be even deadlier :wow

holy shit :wow


Duh,same shit happend with spanish flu. 650k here we come :wow

[DarrinS]

we could possibly be at 300k dead by Christmas eve

Merry Christmas

Love, hater

[DarrinS]

We can't say for sure. But guessing wrong on locking down is better than guessing wrong on not locking down. Guessing wrong on the former won't lead to more deaths, while guessing wrong on the latter can be tragic.


Our new cases look more linear than exponential

[slick'81]

Merry Christmas

Love, hater


Everything is fine

love,D

[midnightpulp]

Our new cases look more linear than exponential

Sure. I think Texas can start opening. I'm arguing against hindsight bias, that some regions should've never locked down. When the situation was reaching critical mass in Italy, it was the smart move, regardless of region.

[hater]

Merry Christmas

Love, hater

it fucking sucks

I was right the white house estimates were way under estimated. fucking lying bitches

Im sure the real estimate was close to 1 million dead but they were too chickenshit to memtion it

[DarrinS]

Party of science


1257031435166167041

[spurraider21]

Party of science


1257031435166167041
they had allowed beaches to stay open for the purpose of transit. people ended up using beaches in the regular fashion and they were very crowded. no other choice besides having them open and having a significant police force to ensure it was only being used for proper purposes

ridiculous "party of science" jab tho

[spurraider21]

holy shit new estimates are back to about 250k deaths

and 100k dead by end of June :wow

the 2nd wave in fall is going to be even deadlier :wow

holy shit :wow
where are you getting this from?

[ChumpDumper]

Party of science


1257031435166167041Where's the crowd?

[ChumpDumper]

Our new cases look more linear than exponentialWe'll know the effects of reopening in a few weeks. I guess right around the time the next phase happens.

[hater]

https://twitter.com/saletan/status/1256953120745304064?s=21

[baseline bum]

Party of science


1257031435166167041

You think the same number of people are going to show up to go walk on the sidewalk way away from the ocean as would tightly pack at the beach if it was open? Have you ever been to Huntington on a nice beach day? It's like spring break then since it's probably the nicest beach in the entire Southland.

[baseline bum]

https://twitter.com/saletan/status/1256953120745304064?s=21

How long until Birx gets fired after that shitbomb at Trump?

[Spurs Homer]

pigs being pigs

fucking dirty fat porkface

https://twitter.com/NYScanner/status/1256936672148717568?s=20


cant tell from that video - what the first people were being arrested for - but it was a standard arrest - I see no brutality or any kinds of rights violations -

from that video - just a chaotic scene where idiot civilians do not know how to get the fuck away and allow the cops (if they were even cops - I saw no ID or uniform on the first group and only saw uniformed officers towards the end of that video??) - to do their jobs -

[slick'81]

How long until Birx gets fired after that shitbomb at Trump?


The WH said around 250 in the first wave all along,tbh

[Nathan89]

I wonder if those are the most important factors and that lockdowns for other areas were not warranted.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/do-lockdowns-save-many-lives-is-most-places-the-data-say-no-11587930911

The lockdown was pointless in most of the country that barely had the virus.

[phxspurfan]

cant tell from that video - what the first people were being arrested for - but it was a standard arrest - I see no brutality or any kinds of rights violations -

from that video - just a chaotic scene where idiot civilians do not know how to get the fuck away and allow the cops (if they were even cops - I saw no ID or uniform on the first group and only saw uniformed officers towards the end of that video??) - to do their jobs -

Agreed no brutality there. And I call em how I see em when it comes to that. Cop warned the thug at the end who just kept getting in his face. Then slapped the bitch with his pimp hand. Well done boys in blue

[phxspurfan]

You think the same number of people are going to show up to go walk on the sidewalk way away from the ocean as would tightly pack at the beach if it was open? Have you ever been to Huntington on a nice beach day? It's like spring break then since it's probably the nicest beach in the entire Southland.

LA scumbags gonna scumbag either way. Fuck that area with their Laker fans holding the rest of CA back from reopening in full

[ChumpDumper]

I wonder if those are the most important factors and that lockdowns for other areas were not warranted.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/do-lockdowns-save-many-lives-is-most-places-the-data-say-no-11587930911Why should I care what a semiconductor guy says about the efficacy of lockdowns?

[phxspurfan]

it fucking sucks

I was right the white house estimates were way under estimated. fucking lying bitches

Im sure the real estimate was close to 1 million dead but they were too chickenshit to memtion it

We have a population of like 500MM in the US, counting illegals.


If the 1MM dead is over 2-3 years, that’s not the worst thing ever, it’s like a really bad flu (maybe 5x worse than a flu... 0.5% death rate if you assume most of America gets exposed, which is really worst case)

[baseline bum]

We have a population of like 500MM in the US, counting illegals.


If the 1MM dead is over 2-3 years, that’s not the worst thing ever, it’s like a really bad flu (maybe 5x worse than a flu... 0.5% death rate if you assume most of America gets exposed, which is really worst case)

Where the hell are you getting that 35% of the US population is illegals?

[ChumpDumper]

We have a population of like 500MM in the US, counting illegals.


If the 1MM dead is over 2-3 years, that’s not the worst thing ever, it’s like a really bad flu (maybe 5x worse than a flu... 0.5% death rate if you assume most of America gets exposed, which is really worst case)


Where the hell are you getting that 35% of the US population is illegals?

:lol that whole statistical analysis is bonkers

[Spurs Homer]

Agreed no brutality there. And I call em how I see em when it comes to that. Cop warned the thug at the end who just kept getting in his face. Then slapped the bitch with his pimp hand. Well done boys in blue


yup

i think there was more to that last guy getting arrested-

just guessing but that cop appeared to get a heads up from another guy (cop?) near the phone/front of bldg on the right

that the black guy was creeping behind him - im guessing the black dude might have been originally involved and instead of leaving the scene without getting arrested-

the dummy returned to the scene and tried to sucker punch the cop - but got bitch-slapped instead

[baseline bum]

LA scumbags gonna scumbag either way. Fuck that area with their Laker fans holding the rest of CA back from reopening in full

Yeah the scumbags aren't the ones bringing rifles into statehouses to threaten terrorist action :lmao

[ducks]

Bill Gates, Big Picture Artist, points out that medical glass tubes to contain the treatment or vaccine are in short supply.

Bill gates can not stop his os from getting viruses but we are to trust our health to him
?

[hater]

Where the hell are you getting that 35% of the US population is illegals?

:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Bill gates can not stop his os from getting viruses but we are to trust our health to him
?I trust him over the guy who said the number of infections was going from 15 to 0.

[DMC]

Where the hell are you getting that 35% of the US population is illegals?

:lol goddamn that's a lot of people

[ElNono]

pigs being pigs

fucking dirty fat porkface

https://twitter.com/NYScanner/status/1256936672148717568?s=20

jeez... and he's not even wearing a mask...

[DarrinS]

Why should I care what a semiconductor guy says about the efficacy of lockdowns?



Are you still #SafeAtWendys?


Other people besides epidemiologists are capable of math.

[DarrinS]

When this is all over, you Millenials are gonna be pissed.

[ElNono]

Where the hell are you getting that 35% of the US population is illegals?

:lol

[ElNono]

When this is all over, you Millenials are gonna be pissed.

why? not enough boomers dead?

[slick'81]

When this is all over, you Millenials are gonna be pissed.


Just a little over a year to go D

[DarrinS]

why? not enough boomers dead?

I suspect Millenials sacrificed the most (perhaps unnecessary) to save boomers.

[ChumpDumper]

Are you still #SafeAtWendys?I wear a mask when I go out. Don't you? Do you still have a #CoronavirusActionPlan?



Other people besides epidemiologists are capable of math.Oh, this is just a math problem, Darrin?

[ChumpDumper]

When this is all over, you Millenials are gonna be pissed.Darrin's got it all figured out.

[DarrinS]

Darrin's got it all figured out.

Sick burn

[ChumpDumper]

Sick burnWhat's your projection for deaths this year?

Let's see your math.

[ElNono]

I suspect Millenials sacrificed the most (perhaps unnecessary) to save boomers.

In which way?

[DarrinS]

In which way?

jerbs

[ElNono]

jerbs

Money comes and goes, health not so much.

Frankly, boomers fucked them over economically way before this pandemic.

[baseline bum]

Money comes and goes, health not so much.

Frankly, boomers fucked them over economically way before this pandemic.

Yeah after the job market the boomers left them in 2008 they have to be pretty used to this bullshit.

[ElNono]

Yeah after the job market the boomers left them in 2008 they have to be pretty used to this bullshit.

Now you have boomers telling them they have to go get infected and possibly even die at their jobs, plus the company gets immunity and the worker doesn't get paid leave and can't afford healthcare if he loses his/her job.

The COVOMMBER virus struck much earlier than COVID, tbh...

[DarrinS]

Money comes and goes, health not so much.

Frankly, boomers fucked them over economically way before this pandemic.

Millenials have almost a zero chance of dying from this. Very close to zero, unless the are fat, have diabetes,etc.

[ElNono]

Millenials have almost a zero chance of dying from this. Very close to zero, unless the are fat, have diabetes,etc.

That doesn't mean they can't get sick and won't need treatment though. Also, our overall adult obesity rate in the US is ~30%. That's a lot of people.

[DarrinS]

That doesn't mean they can't get sick and won't need treatment though. Also, our overall adult obesity rate in the US is ~30%. That's a lot of people.

At risk folks need to stay home and consider their lifestyle choices.

[ElNono]

At risk folks need to stay home and consider their lifestyle choices.

but the jerbs ain't waiting for them...

[ChumpDumper]

At risk folks need to stay home and consider their lifestyle choices.So they can't work?