Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

[pgardn]

We've known about the high rate of COVID-19 reinfection in Manaus for a month or two, I don't know why we keep pretending what we see happening elsewhere won't happen to us.

this is why we are vaccinating people who have already had Covid with the same double dose procedure as those who are “clean” This is assuming that these really are re-infections in Brazil after somewhere around a year. The article goes through a number of possibilities.
And it may become a yearly procedure just like the flu. With the exception that it is a far more infectious virus so that vaccination is really important.

[pgardn]

It becomes even more important to get vaccinated when people like derp and Kori will not.
People like this are aiding the so-called big Pharma vaccine machine.

[Winehole23]

this is why we are vaccinating people who have already had Covid with the same double dose procedure as those who are “clean” This is assuming that these really are re-infections in Brazil after somewhere around a year. The article goes through a number of possibilities.
And it may become a yearly procedure just like the flu. With the exception that it is a far more infectious virus so that vaccination is really important.Masks, not congregating indoors and social distancing are still very important. I feel like people are starting to unclench, and that that will be a deadly mistake.

[Winehole23]

I mean, fuck, they called the olly olly oxen free on bars.

[pgardn]

Masks, not congregating indoors and social distancing are still very important. I feel like people are starting to unclench, and that that will be a deadly mistake.

Absolutely agree.

This habit should probably never go away, especially for older folks who want to fly for a vacation.
So many people get other non Covid crap after a vacation after being in airports and on an airplane. There are some public places that a mask is very important.
I had a friend at a fast food to go ask for her money back after she heard a younger employee remark "no more masks" and take it off. Businesses will find this out. But bars and stuff... probably not. At my work nothing has changed. Its basically become common courtesy.

We will see.

[pgardn]

With the Qanon witchcraft that has freed itself from its tiny idiot cocoon the idiot virus is also spreading.

[Winehole23]

believe it or not, this pull quote out about *long COVID* is hardly the scariest thing in this Kaiser Health News story about autoimmune conditions incidental to COVID-19.

webpage is chockablock with links to the studies and so forth.



“Long haulers” suffer from a wide range of symptoms, including debilitating fatigue, shortness of breath, cough, chest pain and joint pain, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/long-term-effects.html#:~:text=The%20most%20commonly%20repor ted%20long,Joint%20pain%E2%80%A2%20Chest%20pain). Other patients experience depression, muscle pain, headaches, intermittent fevers, heart palpitations and problems with concentration and memory, known as brain fog.


Less commonly, some patients develop an inflammation of the heart muscle, abnormalities in their lung function, kidney issues, rashes, hair loss, smell and taste problems, sleep issues and anxiety.
https://khn.org/news/article/covid-autoimmune-virus-rogue-antibodies-cytokine-storm-severe-disease/

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

Osterholm tripples down on his dire warnings. Calls for absolute and complete shutdown of everything in the US

Id give chances of that happening at 55% tbqh. So better go get your toilet paper nigs.

Https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp-video/mmvo100604485889?__twitter_impression=true

And for u nigs who detest shutdowns, there will always be Florida :lolhater called the Biden shutdown.

called it.

[SnakeBoy]

We've known about the high rate of COVID-19 reinfection in Manaus for a month or two, I don't know why we keep pretending what we see happening elsewhere won't happen to us.

What are you worried about? Variants?

[DarrinS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRp15GNJBF8

[SnakeBoy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRp15GNJBF8

You probably have to give them a tldw summary

[RandomGuy]

You probably have to give them a tldw summary

Does it explain the excess deaths? :lol

[hater]

You probably have to give them a tldw summary

Dr looks like dracula

It would help if he didnt look like dracula :lol

[SnakeBoy]

Fauci: US shouldn't loosen coronavirus restrictions until daily new cases fall below 10,000
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/03/04/health/us-coronavirus-thursday/index.html

We can open up when we get below the number of false positives

[ChumpDumper]

:lol moar conspiracies

[Winehole23]

What are you worried about? Variants?Same as ever, that people will die needlessly because of bad guidance and bad political decisions.

[SnakeBoy]

Same as ever, that people will die needlessly because of bad guidance and bad political decisions.

My bad, I thought you meant variants not Biden's America.

[Winehole23]

My bad, I thought you meant variants not Biden's America. & Gov.Abbott's Texas, by that reasoning.

[pgardn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRp15GNJBF8

This was very nice.
Only thing I would have added (and I know its a cram so they might have thought it best to leave it out) is at a little after the 10 min mark he discussed tests done with monoclonal antibodies. It is important to realize, that not only does the body have a myriad of ways of fighting the virus other than just pure antibodies, but also that the antibodies we make in our bodies are variable, not MONO clonal. So that our bodies have a way of selecting out the most useful cells that produce the right shaped antibodies. This is very important even when talking about the purely cellular response that use antibody receptors to detect the virus as well. We produce an array of cells with an array of antibody receptors on those cells that recognize changes in the virus.

Then the fact that we can change the vaccines easily... People may want to jump all over BIG PHARMA but the techniques spawned because of this disaster is absolutely amazing.

And... We DONT NEED TO LOSE scientists from China and India who want to come here just because they are geeky science people. Let people come to this country, dont turn away brain power. Trump and this no expert shit was and is unbelievably stupid. It gives rise to derpage outbreaks which are possibly worse than any viruses.

[pgardn]

Im gonna edit the above with some boldness.

[hater]

Fauci: US shouldn't loosen coronavirus restrictions until daily new cases fall below 10,000
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/03/04/health/us-coronavirus-thursday/index.html

We can open up when we get below the number of false positives

:lmao Falsey

Hes one terrible dr. No wonder USA is in a covid toiletbowl

Stupid fuck americans :lmao

[Winehole23]

Just 16.3% of the US population has been vaccinated against Covid-19, or roughly 54 million people according to data from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). In Texas, vaccines have reached just 13.6% of the population.https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/05/new-covid-variants-us-states-reopening-fourth-wave

[Winehole23]

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/541635-alabama-extends-mask-mandate-1-month-bucking-other-gop-led-states

[boutons_deux]

DRUG LOBBY ASKS BIDEN TO PUNISH FOREIGN COUNTRIES PUSHING FOR LOW-COST VACCINES

Big Pharma is fighting for tight control over Covid-19 vaccine production,

limiting availability worldwide while reaping billions.

punish Hungary, Colombia, Chile, and other countries for seeking to ramp up the production of Covid-19 vaccines and therapeutics

without express permission from pharmaceutical companies.

https://theintercept.com/2021/03/03/vaccine-coronavirus-big-pharma-biden

How the patent system is rigged to enrich the oligarchy

The oligarchy as gatekeepers to living.

Wanna live? wanna eat? wanna drink water? wanna turn on the lights? wanna breathe? then pay up

Privatization of everything necessary to living.

[boutons_deux]

https://www.laprogressive.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/texas-open-720.jpg

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/156795959_2897572137232759_4102917494591451153_o.j pg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=eNnIh7i6kR8AX8lixqr&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&tp=7&oh=fb27c7881e947e68355e27f7ab2b914e&oe=6069EE5B

[Winehole23]

“The issue is that we are starting to plateau. That plateau is about 60,000 to 70,000 cases a day. When you have that much viral activity in a plateau, it almost invariably means that you are at risk of another spike,” Fauci said during a White House COVID-19 briefing Friday.

https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/541877-fauci-warns-of-covid-19-spike-in-coming-weeks

[boutons_deux]

U.S. Sets Record for Overdose Deaths During Pandemic

The Coronavirus pandemic has earned the United States a new record for annual drug overdose deaths at 81,000, the Centers for Disease Control reported this week.

For a country that's only surpassed by Russia and Estonia in its share of population with an alcohol or drug addiction,

America's addiction epidemic stands as a threat to national security.

https://www.newsweek.com/us-sets-record-overdose-deaths-during-pandemic-1574118 (https://www.newsweek.com/us-sets-record-overdose-deaths-during-pandemic-1574118?utm_source=pushnami&utm_medium=Push_Notifications&utm_campaign=automatic&UTM=1615046257236)

[boutons_deux]

“Why are we wasting vaccinations on Texas if Texas has decided to join the side of the virus?” – Keith Olbermann

============

“Texas—we hear you.

You didn’t want to be part of our electrical grid.

And now you’ve removed your mask mandate & are allowing large crowds to gather.

We hear you!

COVID is a hoax!

So u don’t need our precious vaccine.

We’ll send it to ppl who are saving lives by wearing masks.” – Michael Moore

[ChumpDumper]

“Why are we wasting vaccinations on Texas if Texas has decided to join the side of the virus?” – Keith Olbermann

============

“Texas—we hear you.

You didn’t want to be part of our electrical grid.

And now you’ve removed your mask mandate & are allowing large crowds to gather.

We hear you!

COVID is a hoax!

So u don’t need our precious vaccine.

We’ll send it to ppl who are saving lives by wearing masks.” – Michael MooreThese are stupid things to say.

[Winehole23]

Michael Moore is a blockhead. Help is needed most where government is the worst.

[boutons_deux]

Michael Moore is a blockhead. Help is needed most where government is the worst.

Repugs know that no-mask/no-business-limitations will kill proportionately more poor blacks and browns than comfortable whites

[DarrinS]

137 new cases in Bexar

But, it is the weekend, so

[pgardn]

137 new cases in Bexar

But, it is the weekend, so

Still good news.

[DarrinS]

Can we stop already with reporters outdoors wearing masks? It's stupid.

[ChumpDumper]

Can we stop already with reporters outdoors wearing masks? It's stupid.What is it hurting, Karrin?

[DarrinS]

What is it hurting, Karrin?

Hard to understand them and deaf people can't read their lips.

And they're OUTSIDE!

[ChumpDumper]

Hard to understand them and deaf people can't read their lips.Closed captioning is a thing, Karrin.

Has been for decades.

And they're OUTSIDE!Plenty of instances where masks should be worn outside, Karrin.

What is it hurting?

[Winehole23]

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[Adam Lambert]

Hard to understand them and deaf people can't read their lips.

And they're OUTSIDE!

How are you still this stupid? How?

[boutons_deux]

SHOITHOLE Florida told hospital to divert vaccines to wealthy community as appointments were canceled for general public

https://www.rawstory.com/media-library/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpbWFnZSI6I mh0dHBzOi8vYXNzZXRzLnJibC5tcy8yNDgxNzU5My9vcmlnaW4 uanBnIiwiZXhwaXJlc19hdCI6MTY2NzMyMjU2MX0.SkERpra3j 5K37MRc9CYX2umJ02-9bDfRtNFDS8mw2aE/image.jpg?width=1200&height=645

A Florida hospital diverted vaccines from the general public to an ultra-wealthy community where its CEO and Republican donors lived.

Some of the beneficiaries had donated to the governor's political action committee, which has garnered almost $4 million, and

Baptist Health Systems president and CEO Brian Keeley and his wife own a home in Ocean Reef.

have asked the FBI to investigate the delivery of doses to wealthy communities that tend to back DeSantis.

https://www.rawstory.com/florida-governor-ron-desantis

[Winehole23]

https://floridapolitics.com/archives/409781-hospital-system-disputes-ron-desantis-vaccine-distribution-involvement

[boutons_deux]

BigTobacco bribes politicians to keep cigarettes off DEA schedule. Let FreeDumb ring! ... (ring up the death toll)

Tobacco killed 500,000 Americans in 2020

https://www.salon.com/2021/03/06/tobacco-killed-500000-americans-in-2020--is-it-time-to-control-cigarette-makers_partner/

[Winehole23]

What are you worried about? Variants?There seems to be empirical, contemporaneous support for concern about COVID-19 variants. Until herd immunity is reached, the concern is a reasonable one, don't you think?


Europe recorded 1 million new COVID-19 cases last week, an increase of 9% from the previous week and a reversal that ended a six-week decline in new infections, WHO said Thursday.

“The spread of the variants is driving the increase, but not only,” said Dr. Hans Kluge, WHO regional director for Europe, citing “also the opening of society, when it is not done in a safe and a controlled manner.”

The variant first found in the U.K. is spreading significantly in 27 European countries monitored by WHO and is dominant in at least 10 countries: Britain, Denmark, Italy, Ireland, Germany, France, the Netherlands, Israel, Spain and Portugal.

It is up to 50% more transmissible than the virus that surged last spring and again in the fall, making it more adept at thwarting measures that were previously effective, WHO experts warned.

https://apnews.com/article/europe-england-coronavirus-pandemic-france-milan-2b4e8c5092db92c38194884a4b8049e4

[SnakeBoy]

There seems to be empirical, contemporaneous support for concern about COVID-19 variants. Until herd immunity is reached, the concern is a reasonable one, don't you think?


https://apnews.com/article/europe-england-coronavirus-pandemic-france-milan-2b4e8c5092db92c38194884a4b8049e4

Not for the US

[RandomGuy]

There seems to be empirical, contemporaneous support for concern about COVID-19 variants. Until herd immunity is reached, the concern is a reasonable one, don't you think?


https://apnews.com/article/europe-england-coronavirus-pandemic-france-milan-2b4e8c5092db92c38194884a4b8049e4

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2021-03-05/brazil-s-second-coronavirus-wave-video

Manaus: Brazil's city on the Amazon river buckles under second Covid wave

Brazil thought they had achieved herd immunity.

They were mistaken.

Opening up too soon will have predictable consequences.

People with their heads really far up their asses will find some new excuse why the fascist party really isn't to blame, or will attempt more "but Cuomo" bullshit when the bodies start stacking up.

[RandomGuy]

Not for the US
https://assets.rebelmouse.io/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpbWFnZSI6I mh0dHBzOi8vYXNzZXRzLnJibC5tcy8xNDc4NDEyNy9vcmlnaW4 uanBnIiwiZXhwaXJlc19hdCI6MTY3NDUwMjM2NX0.eASn4A4Ec N83GeuPSaOleJ_sxgpYxfRuzExa--_-g04/img.jpg?width=980



:lol

[Winehole23]

Not for the USWhy not?

[Winehole23]

the absence of any focus on ventilation is bothersome, it's a respiratory pandemic.


For the purposes of this guidance, people are considered fully vaccinated for COVID-19 ≥2 weeks after they have received the second dose in a 2-dose series (Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna), or ≥2 weeks after they have received a single-dose vaccine (Johnson and Johnson [J&J]/Janssen ).† (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated-guidance.html#footer)
The following recommendations apply to non-healthcare settings.

Fully vaccinated people can:



Visit with other fully vaccinated people indoors without wearing masks or physical distancing
Visit with unvaccinated people from a single household who are at low risk for severe COVID-19 disease indoors without wearing masks or physical distancing
Refrain from quarantine and testing following a known exposure if asymptomatic



For now, fully vaccinated people should continue to:



Take precautions in public like wearing a well-fitted mask and physical distancing
Wear masks, practice physical distancing, and adhere to other prevention measures when visiting with unvaccinated people who are at increased risk for severe COVID-19 (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/need-extra-precautions/index.html) disease or who have an unvaccinated household member who is at increased risk for severe COVID-19 disease
Wear masks, maintain physical distance, and practice other prevention measures when visiting with unvaccinated people from multiple households
Avoid medium- and large-sized in-person gatherings
Get tested if experiencing COVID-19 symptoms (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/symptoms-testing/symptoms.html)
Follow guidance issued by individual employers
Follow CDC and health department travel requirements and recommendations

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated-guidance.html

[DMC]

Follow guidance issued by individual employers. :lol "get your ass to work!" -individual employer

[pgardn]

Follow guidance issued by individual employers. :lol "get your ass to work!" -individual employer

With a mask at distance.

oh noes, I, I, cant breaf...

[Winehole23]

Labor force participation for women has slipped to late 1980s levels. IMO women (or anyone else, for that matter) who had to abandon their jobs to care for children and loved ones at home should be paid for it.

(The child subsidies in the COVID bill will help to defray some of the lost income, but not the lost productivity.)


Nearly 3 million American women have left the labor force over the past year in a coronavirus (https://www.cbsnews.com/feature/coronavirus/)-induced exodus that reflects persistent pay inequality, undervalued work and antiquated notions of caregiving.


Before the pandemic, women consisted more than 50% of the country's workforce, underlining their importance to the economy. But that number has dropped sharply as many women, particularly mothers (https://www.minneapolisfed.org/article/2021/pandemic-pushes-mothers-of-young-children-out-of-the-labor-force#_ftn1) of young children, have been furloughed or laid off. Many others have had to choose between showing up at front-line jobs or caring for their children (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/distance-learning-4-million-parents-could-quit-jobs/) who, with daycare centers closed and school underway remotely, would otherwise be left without supervision.


Indeed, women remain 2.8 percentage points below their November 2019 labor force participation rate, according to the Minneapolis Fed (https://www.minneapolisfed.org/article/2021/pandemic-pushes-mothers-of-young-children-out-of-the-labor-force#_ftn1). The government's latest employment data, released Friday, shows that women's participation in the labor force declined in January (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/january-2021-jobs-report-unemployment/), while men's stayed flat.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-crisis-3-million-women-labor-force/

[Winehole23]

More emphasis on ventilation and filtration would be opportune to protect patrons and staff alike, now that states have started to remove restrictions from businesses.


While it is still important to prevent person-to-person transmission via droplet spray, there is now a large body of scientific evidence (https://bmcinfectdis.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12879-019-3707-y) that particles much smaller than droplets can also spread the virus. These tiny particles, called aerosols, are emitted by infected people during breathing, talking and singing, and waft away in plumes of exhaled breath. The particles are so small they stay aloft for minutes to hours and can be carried distances by air currents.


In enclosed indoor spaces, these particles can accumulate, particularly if the ventilation is poor and the air is not filtered. There are now numerous studies of people infected with Covid-19 due to small particle inhalation, at distances far greater than the few feet that droplets travel.
https://www.politico.com/news/agenda/2021/03/08/covid-distance-workers-ventilation-474017

[SnakeBoy]

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Tempted to spend $200 on this test

[ElNono]

1367994090651082754

Tempted to spend $200 on this test

but Bill Gates!

[SnakeBoy]

Why not?

Vaccines is the short answer

Lot's to unpack for the long answer. "Herd immunity", "more transmissible", and what you believe the endgame is or should be. Lot's of words required to discuss those things. Start the conversation if you want.

[SnakeBoy]

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[hater]

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Meh

I remember when americal politicians and finance moguls were high fiving themselves because china was facing a crippling pandemic. At the same time, these idiots were saying theres nothing to worry about as we are the most prepared country in the world vs a potential pandemic :lmao

[Winehole23]

Vaccines is the short answer

Lot's to unpack for the long answer. "Herd immunity", "more transmissible", and what you believe the endgame is or should be. Lot's of words required to discuss those things. Start the conversation if you want.Vaccines make herd immunity possible, but it’s unclear why you think there’s no cause for concern that variants will cause another spike before we get there. It’s one thing to be personally unconcerned, quite another to suggest that there is not a rational basis for concern.

Which prong of the fork is closer to your position and why?

[SnakeBoy]

Meh

I remember when americal politicians and finance moguls were high fiving themselves because china was facing a crippling pandemic. At the same time, these idiots were saying theres nothing to worry about as we are the most prepared country in the world vs a potential pandemic :lmao

China is in a tough situation. The West is on the verge of opening up, China can't possibly vaccinate enough of their population this year to open up to the world. By the time they are done with coronavirus they will have lost 2+ years of time towards building internal markets. Which means over the coming years as Mexico replaces them as the low cost manufacturing hub of the United States their economy will come crashing down. That's why they want everybody to stay locked down until the whole world is vaccinated. They are just trying to buy time in hopes that they can figure something out to save their failing system.

[Winehole23]

China is in a tough situation. The West is on the verge of opening up, China can't possibly vaccinate enough of their population this year to open up to the world. By the time they are done with coronavirus they will have lost 2+ years of time towards building internal markets. Which means over the coming years as Mexico replaces them as the low cost manufacturing hub of the United States their economy will come crashing down. That's why they want everybody to stay locked down until the whole world is vaccinated. They are just trying to buy time in hopes that they can figure something out to save their failing system.Geostrategery and quite a bold prediction.

What signs do you see that China is verging on collapse?

[hater]

China is in a tough situation. The West is on the verge of opening up, China can't possibly vaccinate enough of their population this year to open up to the world. By the time they are done with coronavirus they will have lost 2+ years of time towards building internal markets. Which means over the coming years as Mexico replaces them as the low cost manufacturing hub of the United States their economy will come crashing down. That's why they want everybody to stay locked down until the whole world is vaccinated. They are just trying to buy time in hopes that they can figure something out to save their failing system.

:lmao ok

Americans also said china was gonna collapse anytime last February :lmao

[Winehole23]

Sounds like Snake Boy is a dove on COVID for reasons of economic dominance. For some reason he thinks the US has the edge on China right now, and that pressing that advantage trumps any concern about risks that COVID still poses to human health and the economy in the US.

Almost as if he thinks the real problem is disease mitigation, and not the disease.

[hater]

Sounds like Snake Boy is a dove on COVID for reasons of economic dominance. For some reason he thinks the US has the edge on China right now, and that pressing that advantage trumps any concern about risks that COVID still poses to human health and the economy in the US.

Almost as if he thinks the real problem is disease mitigation, and not the disease.

:lmao he probably reads the Federalist or some bullshit like that :lol

Americans fail to understand that unlike fat americans chinese will eat shoes if need be for a few years if they encounter a depression. Plus their economy wqs spectacular last year. And to think mexico will replace them :lmao

[Winehole23]

:lmao he probably reads the Federalist or some bullshit like that :lol

Americans fail to understand that unlike fat americans chinese will eat shoes if need be for a few years if they encounter a depression. Plus their economy wqs spectacular last year. And to think mexico will replace them All sounds very improbable to me, I'd like to hear more about what convinced Snake Boy that China is teetering on the brink of failure.

[SnakeBoy]

:lmao he probably reads the Federalist or some bullshit like that :lol

Americans fail to understand that unlike fat americans chinese will eat shoes if need be for a few years if they encounter a depression. Plus their economy wqs spectacular last year. And to think mexico will replace them :lmao

and you think russia is going to return to glory :lol

Yes the chinese will eat shoes, they have a couple thousand years practice at it :lol

[SnakeBoy]

Sounds like Snake Boy is a dove on COVID for reasons of economic dominance. For some reason he thinks the US has the edge on China right now, and that pressing that advantage trumps any concern about risks that COVID still poses to human health and the economy in the US.

Almost as if he thinks the real problem is disease mitigation, and not the disease.

You seem to think stopping the virus is the problem but you dance around the issue when I ask you what you think the endgame is. Preventing serious disease/death (if that's what you mean by disease mitigation) has always been the one and only issue. Who cares if people get the sniffles after vaccination. In 12 weeks America will begin to help rescue the world because we will be done with our population. China will not be first on the list.

[hater]

and you think russia is going to return to glory :lol

Yes the chinese will eat shoes, they have a couple thousand years practice at it :lol

Nope. Russia is a gastation pretending to be a country economically. They do have nukes and build their armament from the first screw so they are a force militarily. But thats it. They are a middle weight at best.

Yup and chinese can eat shoes for a couple thousand years more while we burn shit down for having to wear a mask :lmao

[Winehole23]

You seem to think stopping the virus is the problem but you dance around the issue when I ask you what you think the endgame is. Preventing serious disease/death (if that's what you mean by disease mitigation) has always been the one and only issue. Who cares if people get the sniffles after vaccination. In 12 weeks America will begin to help rescue the world because we will be done with our population. China will not be first on the list.I'm not sure what you mean by endgame, if you clarified that, I might be able to make a stab at it.

Also not sure why you think vaccination will be over in three months, as I understand that's roughly when the US will have enough doses for everyone. Getting those doses into arms will presumably take some time. Last estimate I heard for that was "summer/fall."

If you have fresher information, please do share.

[SnakeBoy]

Geostrategery and quite a bold prediction.

What signs do you see that China is verging on collapse?

You're aware that Sleepy Joe promised to be tougher on China than Trump correct? Thus far it appears he is going to keep that promise. China's entire economy is dependent on being a preferred trading partner with America. That started with idea that we gain access to their huge internal market, a nice idea that the CCP never allowed to happen. Aging demographics in China are now on the verge of rapidly changing to make China an unappealing market for US, retirement communities just don't consume enough. Plus old people just don't make good low cost workers. They can't steal cheap labor from other countries like we do because they are a closed society.

Mexico on the other hand has a perfect age pyramid and a shiny new trade deal with us. That's why we are stealing our shit job labor from central america instead of Mexico now.

[SnakeBoy]

I'm not sure what you mean by endgame, if you clarified that, I might be able to make a stab at it.

Also not sure why you think vaccination will be over in three months, as I understand that's roughly when the US will have enough doses for everyone. Getting those doses into arms will presumably take some time. Last estimate I heard for that was "summer/fall."

If you have fresher information, please do share.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/541283-biden-us-will-have-vaccine-for-all-adults-by-end-of-may

Bear in mind 30-40% of people won't want the vaccine so it will be very soon that everyone who wants a vaccine will have gotten it.

Some areas are already having trouble filling appts
https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/several-states-have-covid-vaccine-surplus-while-others-struggle-103107653659

By endgame I mean when do you think the pandemic is over. When x number of people stop testing pcr positive? Or when serious illness and death drop to x number?

[Winehole23]

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/541283-biden-us-will-have-vaccine-for-all-adults-by-end-of-may

Bear in mind 30-40% of people won't want the vaccine so it will be very soon that everyone who wants a vaccine will have gotten it.To me this suggests we might not reach herd immunity.


By endgame I mean when do you think the pandemic is over. When x number of people stop testing pcr positive? Or when serious illness and death drop to x number? I'd just be guessing. If fatalities/hospitalizations drop to the ordinary range of the flu and/or the CDC says it's over?

If you can answer your own questions, I'd be grateful for the information.

[SnakeBoy]

To me this suggests we might not reach herd immunity.

I'd just be guessing. If fatalities/hospitalizations drop to the ordinary range of the flu and/or the CDC says it's over?

If you can answer your own questions, I'd be grateful for the information.

I assumed you had your own take on things and were being coy about it. My legit take is scattered over the 900 pages of this thread along with some obvious (to me) for lulz takes. I'll summarize my legit takes for you but first I'm hungry.

[Winehole23]

I assumed you had your own take on things and were being coy about it. My legit take is scattered over the 900 pages of this thread along with some obvious (to me) for lulz takes. I'll summarize my legit takes for you but first I'm hungry.Buen provecho!

[hater]

Whats coming to the us

https://twitter.com/talkRADIO/status/1369585837118210051?s=19

[SnakeBoy]

Whats coming to the us

https://twitter.com/talkRADIO/status/1369585837118210051?s=19

We're already opening up

[Winehole23]

I assumed you had your own take on things and were being coy about it. My legit take is scattered over the 900 pages of this thread along with some obvious (to me) for lulz takes. I'll summarize my legit takes for you but first I'm hungry.Your straight take is still very welcome, SnakeBoy.

[hater]

We're already opening up

While Biden has 2 covid shots and still double masking :lol

There will be similar conversations in US by summer. Book it

[ChumpDumper]

While Biden has 2 covid shots and still double masking :lol

There will be similar conversations in US by summer. Book itWe're opened up 100%.

No conversation.

[SnakeBoy]

While Biden has 2 covid shots and still double masking :lol

There will be similar conversations in US by summer. Book it

You said book it to Biden racking up more deaths than Trump even after I showed you it was not possible. Thanks to Trump's vaccines, the winning vaccines.

[Adam Lambert]

Getting the J&J shot tomorrow :tu

[SnakeBoy]

Getting the J&J shot tomorrow :tu

Cool. I'm getting it in 4 1/2 hours. I'm interested to see what side effects I have since for me it is basically a booster shot.

[DarrinS]

Getting the J&J shot tomorrow :tu


Cool. I'm getting it in 4 1/2 hours. I'm interested to see what side effects I have since for me it is basically a booster shot.


Did they change eligibility requirements?

[spurraider21]

im still not eligible in VA. they've been somewhat slow on the rollout. dont know how they compare against other states. right now eligibility is limited to 65+, medical personnel, and very specific essential workers like school staff, emergency services, postage/public transport, food industry, etc.

next stage, 1c, includes other "essential workers" including legal services, but no clue when that stage is set to begin. after that its general pop

[SnakeBoy]

Did they change eligibility requirements?

I'm a chubby 18 year old

[DarrinS]

im still not eligible in VA. they've been somewhat slow on the rollout. dont know how they compare against other states. right now eligibility is limited to 65+, medical personnel, and very specific essential workers like school staff, emergency services, postage/public transport, food industry, etc.

next stage, 1c, includes other "essential workers" including legal services, but no clue when that stage is set to begin. after that its general pop


I'm over 50 and not currently eligible in TX.

[DarrinS]

I'm a chubby 18 year old


Spurminator has Down Syndrome, so he qualifies

[DarrinS]

If I have to wait for all the fat people in SA to get vaccinated, I probably won't be eligible until the summer. :lol

[SnakeBoy]

I'm over 50 and not currently eligible in TX.

Group 1b - 16+ Any medical condition. If you are over 50 you have a medical condition whether you know it or not. Select Group 1b and get vaccinated.

[Adam Lambert]

Did they change eligibility requirements?

This is way out in west Texas and apparently it's from a surplus so there were no requirements.

[Adam Lambert]

I didn't ask a lot of questions, but Bertha from the trailer park we're going to was very nice. Just have to stop at the ATM on the way.

[hater]

You said book it to Biden racking up more deaths than Trump even after I showed you it was not possible. Thanks to Trump's vaccines, the winning vaccines.

Ppl still dying. Hate to break it to you

[spurraider21]

This is way out in west Texas and apparently it's from a surplus so there were no requirements.
ive heard from family that the los angeles area is similar if you get lucky

[DarrinS]

Group 1b - 16+ Any medical condition. If you are over 50 you have a medical condition whether you know it or not. Select Group 1b and get vaccinated.

I don't have any conditions in their list


https://dshs.texas.gov/covidvaccine/#eligible

[Winehole23]

I don't have any conditions in their list


https://dshs.texas.gov/covidvaccine/#eligible


If you have a medical condition not listed above, you may still qualify for the vaccine. Talk to your provider to confirm.

[DarrinS]

Zero health issues

[DarrinS]

I may have a cavity. :lol

[Winehole23]

Zero health issuesare you sure about that?

[hater]

Zero health issues

Just calm down..looks like well be swimming in vaccines in.3 or 4 months. Youll be able to pick a winner.

Apparently pfizer works well vs any variant. Sounds like a winner to me. Have patience and pick a winner

[DarrinS]

are you sure about that?

Yep

[SnakeBoy]

I don't have any conditions in their list


https://dshs.texas.gov/covidvaccine/#eligible

You are in your 50's. Somewhere in your body you have some small (hopefully) amount of soft plaque which means you technically have cardiovascular disease. You can go to a concierge doctor who practices the Bale Doneen Method, pay them the $2k - $5k concierge fee out of pocket, then spend $10 - $20k out of pocket on advanced testing, and get officially diagnosed with cardiovascular disease.

Or select Group 1b and go get vaccinated.

[DarrinS]

Oops

1369488647028871174

[Adam Lambert]

Oops

1369488647028871174

Not sure what the hypocrisy here is unless you think he should have encouraged everyone to move.

[hater]

Oops

1369488647028871174

I stopped listening to dr ding dong months ago. Hes a clown.

[Winehole23]

preaches water, drinks wine

[DarrinS]

You are in your 50's. Somewhere in your body you have some small (hopefully) amount of soft plaque which means you technically have cardiovascular disease. You can go to a concierge doctor who practices the Bale Doneen Method, pay them the $2k - $5k concierge fee out of pocket, then spend $10 - $20k out of pocket on advanced testing, and get officially diagnosed with cardiovascular disease.

Or select Group 1b and go get vaccinated.


I was watching an interview with Israeli doctor and she indicated they're giving single dose Pfizer to those who already recovered from covid

[DarrinS]

I was watching an interview with Israeli doctor and she indicated they're giving single dose Pfizer to those who already recovered from covid


So, I'm going to wait until J&J is available here.

By the way, in that same interview, the doctor indicated reinfection was very rare, even with high prevalence of UK variant.

[SnakeBoy]

I was watching an interview with Israeli doctor and she indicated they're giving single dose Pfizer to those who already recovered from covid

That makes sense

[Adam Lambert]

preaches water, drinks wine

It's not an either/or proposition, is it?

Either U.S. schools should be closed due to the pandemic or they shouldn't. No one's really debating which option is better for kids' education, and I don't think someone advocating for closure has an obligation to deny their own kids alternate safe options. (Austria has had less than 5,000 COVID deaths in the past year.)

[SnakeBoy]

Stay-at-home policy is a case of exception fallacy: an internet-based ecological study
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-84092-1


In conclusion, using this methodology and current data, in ~ 98% of the comparisons using 87 different regions of the world we found no evidence that the number of deaths/million is reduced by staying at home.

[baseline bum]

Just calm down..looks like well be swimming in vaccines in.3 or 4 months. Youll be able to pick a winner.

Apparently pfizer works well vs any variant. Sounds like a winner to me. Have patience and pick a winner

We got three winners right now.

[baseline bum]

Cool. I'm getting it in 4 1/2 hours. I'm interested to see what side effects I have since for me it is basically a booster shot.

Post here later so we know you didn't dieded.

[Winehole23]

It's not an either/or proposition, is it?

Either U.S. schools should be closed due to the pandemic or they shouldn't. No one's really debating which option is better for kids' education, and I don't think someone advocating for closure has an obligation to deny their own kids alternate safe options. (Austria has had less than 5,000 COVID deaths in the past year.)More of a both and.

There’s no problem with doing the best thing by your own kids, but if you recommend that others keep their kids out of school for safety’s sake, then do the opposite with yours, expect blowback.

[Adam Lambert]

More of a both and.

There’s no problem with doing the best thing by your own kids, but if you recommend that others keep their kids out of school for safety’s sake, then do the opposite with yours, expect blowback.

It's not really the opposite because he did keep his kids out of US schools. He just had the means to send them somewhere safe for in person schooling.

[Winehole23]

It's not really the opposite because he did keep his kids out of US schools. He just had the means to send them somewhere safe for in person schooling.I see what you mean, I don’t it’s a very big deal, so I’m disinclined to argue about it. It makes sense to me that people are griping about it even if there’s a logical inconsistency to the gripe.

[hater]

We got three winners right now.

If youre not first. Youre last

[ChumpDumper]

I'm over 50 and not currently eligible in TX.You will be soon enough.

1369754408905506820

[Winehole23]

If youre not first. Youre lastwrt vaccination?

that’s one of the few things the US is doing well relative to other countries.

[DarrinS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIXKJXsiBFc

[Winehole23]

Florida hid the ball.

1369976657990324227

[boutons_deux]

Link Between Governors’ Party Affiliation And COVID-19 Cases, Deaths

The per-capita rates of new COVID-19 cases and COVID-19 deaths were higher in states with Democrat governors in the first months of the pandemic last year,

but became much higher in states with Republican governors by mid-summer and through 2020,

possibly reflecting COVID-19 policy differences between GOP- and Democrat-led states

policy differences between Republican- and Democrat-governed states,

including mitigation measures such as mask mandates and social distancing requirements,

may have led to systematic differences in COVID-19’s impact on public health,

“Governors’ party affiliation may have contributed to a range of policy decisions that, together, influenced the spread of the virus,”

https://scienceblog.com/521609/link-between-governors-party-affiliation-and-covid-19-cases-deaths

[SnakeBoy]

So, I'm going to wait until J&J is available here.


I just took the first available to me. Just happened to be the J&J.

[ChumpDumper]

There are a few locations near me that only have J&J, so maybe vaccine shopping is possible. I'm expecting a bunch of mass vaccination events to be scheduled in the next couple months too, so I'll look for ones with J&J for the sake of full convenience.

[SnakeBoy]

he probably reads the Federalist or some bullshit like that :lol


No fuckwad

I'm reading Zeihan's book :lol

It's all gonna burn!

[Winehole23]

No fuckwad

I'm reading Zeihan's book :lol

It's all gonna burn!

https://zeihan.com/

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/reviews/capsule-review/2020-08-11/disunited-nations-scramble-power-ungoverned-world

[hater]

https://twitter.com/channelstv/status/1369373057308057612?s=19

[hater]

https://twitter.com/andrewiconnell/status/1370061023441530883?s=19

[Winehole23]

https://twitter.com/channelstv/status/1369373057308057612?s=19tHaT's MaThEmAtIcaLLy impOsSiBLE hErE, sNakeBoY sAiD sO

[SnakeBoy]

tHaT's MaThEmAtIcaLLy impOsSiBLE hErE, sNakeBoY sAiD sO

Not true

we need to go save Europe again. They all fucked up.

...is what I said liar

[SnakeBoy]

tHaT's MaThEmAtIcaLLy impOsSiBLE hErE, sNakeBoY sAiD sO

Oh I missed the hErE in your triggered statement.

Yes cannot happen here. Vaccines ftw!

[Winehole23]

Not true

we need to go save Europe again. They all fucked up.

...is what I said liarlol namecalling, you goofed

[Winehole23]

Oh I missed the hErE in your triggered statement.

Yes cannot happen here. Vaccines ftw!show yr math

[Winehole23]

Biden's speech tonight: "closer to normal by May 1st"

[SnakeBoy]

https://zeihan.com/

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/reviews/capsule-review/2020-08-11/disunited-nations-scramble-power-ungoverned-world

That's the book

Here's him selling his previous one


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7TwbqGt4bk

[hater]

Infections keep falking in UK :tu

Their peak is hopefully over. There might be hope after all :tu

[Winehole23]

Infections keep falking in UK :tu

Their peak is hopefully over. There might be hope after all :tutheir lockdown is way hardcore compared to our not-lockdown.

[hater]

their lockdown is way hardcore compared to our not-lockdown.

I dont disagree. We are opening up too soon. I expect our cases to naturally go up in a few weeks. But based on latest news and UK news, even with another spike, there is hope :tu

Heres to hoping :tu

[DarrinS]

The purpose of lockdowns was to "flatten the curve", not to eradicate covid.

[Winehole23]

Today's US infection rate per 100,000 (7 day average) people is 142, per the WaPo COVID page and Reuters.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/national/coronavirus-us-cases-deaths/
https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-maps/countries-and-territories/united-states/



Germany's third wave is in full swing, the president of Germany's Robert Koch Institute for infectious diseases (RKI), told the UN Journalists Association in Geneva on Wednesday.

"We have clear signs: The third wave in Germany has already begun," said Lothar Wieler.

Thursday marks one year since the World Health Organization (WHO) declared a global pandemic.

Wieler's comments came as the RKI recorded 14,356 new infections in the past 24 hours on Thursday, an increase of more than 2,400 over the prevous Thursday.

The infection rate also continued to rise, reaching 69.1 new cases per 100,000 people in the past seven days for Germany as a whole. The infection rate on Wednesday was 65.4.
https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-digest-germanys-third-wave-has-begun/a-56833513

[Winehole23]

The purpose of lockdowns was to "flatten the curve"That's what they've been trying to do in England since December. Looks like it might be working.

[DarrinS]

Its 10 per 100,000 in Bexar

[Winehole23]

Its 10 per 100,000 in BexarGood for Bexar, still shitty overall.

[SnakeBoy]

The purpose of lockdowns was to "flatten the curve", not to eradicate covid.

And the purpose of flattening the curve was to keep hospitals from getting overwhelmed. If the vulnerable population has been vaccinated, and the vaccine is 100% effective in preventing hospitalizations & death, then there is no reason to worry about flattening the curve.

[Winehole23]

.

[Winehole23]

And the purpose of flattening the curve was to keep hospitals from getting overwhelmed. If the vulnerable population has been vaccinated, and the vaccine is 100% effective in preventing hospitalizations & death, then there is no reason to worry about flattening the curve.Sure there is, the people should be protected until herd immunity is reached and/or the pandemic is under control. That's not the case in the US, far from it.

[hater]

And the purpose of flattening the curve was to keep hospitals from getting overwhelmed. If the vulnerable population has been vaccinated, and the vaccine is 100% effective in preventing hospitalizations & death, then there is no reason to worry about flattening the curve.

Too bad the vulnerable population is far from fully protected in the US. So natutaly cases and hospitalizations will rise due to opening up too early.

[DMC]

And even if we never have another covid death what about when the dinosaurs died? I mean there's always something that we can really be freaked out or worried about. Let's not remove the drama just yet. There are still tweets to post.

[Winehole23]

And even if we never have another covid death what about when the dinosaurs died? I mean there's always something that we can really be freaked out or worried about. Let's not remove the drama just yet. There are still tweets to post.who's freaked out?

are you allergic to information? :lol

[hater]

Sure there is, the people should be protected until herd immunity is reached and/or the pandemic is under control. That's not the case in the US, far from it.

70,000 americans will die between today and July 1st. But they dont count because we have already beat the virus thanks to muh vaccines!

[Adam Lambert]

Getting the J&J shot tomorrow :tu

My wife had a tough time with the side effects. Tossed and turned for 4 hours last night with chills and aches. She's good this morning, just tired.

As for me, it just feels like the day after a long bike ride.

[DarrinS]

I understand now why so many eligible older people are having trouble getting appointments.

[hater]

Looking like the Astrazeneca vaccines is a shit vaccine and one to avoid.

Also the Pfizer one seems to be a baby killer

https://twitter.com/LindaMarek/status/1370166879046754306?s=19


US is about to dump their stockpile of Astrazeneca vaccines to some shithole countries too


RIP Astrazeneca

[pgardn]

And the purpose of flattening the curve was to keep hospitals from getting overwhelmed. If the vulnerable population has been vaccinated, and the vaccine is 100% effective in preventing hospitalizations & death, then there is no reason to worry about flattening the curve.

that was initially because we did not have enough ICU beds. We are prepped now we know how to take care of people who have got it much better with physical techniques and drugs.
We still don’t want people coming to the hospital with low oxygen counts and the ability to spread the virus. because there’s no way everyone will be at vaccinated.
If it could become easier than the flu this would be huge.

[SnakeBoy]

I understand now why so many eligible older people are having trouble getting appointments.

They need to identify as woke chubby 18 year olds

[pgardn]

Looking like the Astrazeneca vaccines is a shit vaccine and one to avoid.

Also the Pfizer one seems to be a baby killer

https://twitter.com/LindaMarek/status/1370166879046754306?s=19


US is about to dump their stockpile of Astrazeneca vaccines to some shithole countries too


RIP Astrazeneca

link to the baby killing.
You won’t....

[pgardn]

that was initially because we did not have enough ICU beds. We are prepped now we know how to take care of people who have got it much better with physical techniques and drugs.
We still don’t want people coming to the hospital with low oxygen counts and the ability to spread the virus. because there’s no way everyone will be at vaccinated.
If it could become easier than the flu this would be huge.


addition
imo
and I think the potential is there

[SnakeBoy]

Looking like the Astrazeneca vaccines is a shit vaccine and one to avoid.

Also the Pfizer one seems to be a baby killer

https://twitter.com/LindaMarek/status/1370166879046754306?s=19


US is about to dump their stockpile of Astrazeneca vaccines to some shithole countries too


RIP Astrazeneca

Back in December I think, Dr. Daniel Griffin said on TWiV that the FDA was so frustrated getting the run around from Astrezeneca that they had stopped talking to them and he didn't think they would approve it in the US. I thought that was a mistake but it turns out that company is just shitty and so is the vaccine.

Sleepy Joe needs to step up and pre-purchase a few billion doses of J&J and go save the world. Make it a vaccine lend-lease type thing.

[boutons_deux]

GOP's Ron Johnson responds to good news on vaccines with unhinged rant about hydroxychloroquine

https://www.rawstory.com/media-library/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpbWFnZSI6I mh0dHBzOi8vYXNzZXRzLnJibC5tcy8yNDgzMzg3OC9vcmlnaW4 uanBnIiwiZXhwaXJlc19hdCI6MTYzOTE1Nzc5Nn0.vu6AalV52 HpklPbqwEZMJUvyyRVu1D4D8u1lR79tUrk/image.jpg?width=1200&height=642


"Does Joe Biden wants (sic) us to continue living in a state of fear?" Johnson wrote.

"This pandemic could have been defeated months ago & tens of thousands of lives saved if courageous frontline doctors and early treatment had not been censored and silenced as we awaited a vaccine."

multiple studies have found that hydroxychloroquine is not effective at treating COVID-19, and

Trump himself was not treated with the drug when he was hospitalized after coming down with COVID-19 last October.

https://www.rawstory.com/ron-johnson-hydroxychloroquine

[SnakeBoy]

Florida Gov. DeSantis Cancels All CCP Virus Fines Issued by Local Officials
https://www.theepochtimes.com/florida-gov-desantis-cancels-all-ccp-virus-fines-issued-by-local-officials_3731270.html


:tu

[DMC]

who's freaked out?

are you allergic to information? :lol

You're in a constant state of DEFCON 3 at least. Paul Revere of the ST forum, "Winehole's 'Can You Believe This Bullshit is Happening?' channel"

[DMC]

that was initially because we did not have enough ICU beds. We are prepped now we know how to take care of people who have got it much better with physical techniques and drugs.
We still don’t want people coming to the hospital with low oxygen counts and the ability to spread the virus. because there’s no way everyone will be at vaccinated.
If it could become easier than the flu this would be huge.

So you work in the hospital?

[Winehole23]

You're in a constant state of DEFCON 3 at least. Paul Revere of the ST forum, "Winehole's 'Can You Believe This Bullshit is Happening?' channel"Your intuition about my state of mind and intention are way off, you're a shitty empath. I've always been a high volume poster, and this is a story of high prominence/importance.

Ive posted the good the bad and the silly about COVID, you just roam around snapping towels and biting ankles.

Vive la difference.

[Adam Lambert]

I understand now why so many eligible older people are having trouble getting appointments.

As I already said, the one we took was specifically available because eligible older people in west Texas didn't sign up for it.

[Adam Lambert]

And :lol I'm not going to be guilt-tripped by someone whose ignorance as part of a collective cult of science deniers led to the deaths of far more elderly people than me getting a vaccine marketed as "no eligibility requirements."

I did my part to prevent the spread. You mocked people like me for a year. Eat a dick.

[SnakeBoy]

As I already said, the one we took was specifically available because eligible older people in west Texas didn't sign up for it.

There's a grandma in west Texas who is going to go out two steppin this weekend. 4 weeks later she'll die of covid. Her blood is on your hands.

[Adam Lambert]

There's a grandma in west Texas who is going to go out two steppin this weekend. 4 weeks later she'll die of covid. Her blood is on your hands.

Two-steppers deserve whatever they get, I'll see her in hell.

[SnakeBoy]

Two-steppers deserve whatever they get, I'll see her in hell.

Say hi for me

[DarrinS]

As I already said, the one we took was specifically available because eligible older people in west Texas didn't sign up for it.

Sure Jan

[SnakeBoy]

Germany declares a Covid ‘third wave’ has begun; Italy set for Easter lockdown
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/12/germany-declares-a-covid-third-wave-has-begun-italy-set-for-easter-lockdown.html

Rip EU tbh

[Adam Lambert]

Sure Jan

Uninformed skepticism is right on brand for you.

Pay more attention, you might find one of these opportunities too. Might have to follow the Facebook pages of some small town clinics like this one: https://www.facebook.com/HaskellMemorialHospital/photos/a.116899942999966/465307154825908/

Best of luck!

[DarrinS]

Uninformed skepticism is right on brand for you.

Pay more attention, you might find one of these opportunities too. Might have to follow the Facebook pages of some small town clinics like this one: https://www.facebook.com/HaskellMemorialHospital/photos/a.116899942999966/465307154825908/

Best of luck!


My legit turn is coming up. I can wait

[Adam Lambert]

My legit turn is coming up. I can wait

Smug self-righteousness is also on brand for you, but seeing as you thought this whole thing was a hoax a year ago and you still think wearing a mask is an unnecessary hassle, maybe you should wait. :tu

[DarrinS]

Adam Lambert

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d3/96/ea/d396ead3cbd949800c7da543a57c8586.gif

[SnakeBoy]

Adam Lambert

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d3/96/ea/d396ead3cbd949800c7da543a57c8586.gif

Even George didn't go all the way to west Texas

[Adam Lambert]

Adam Lambert

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d3/96/ea/d396ead3cbd949800c7da543a57c8586.gif

That grandma already died in October because you insisted on having a pitcher of Coors Yellow at the bar.

[Winehole23]

2.9 million people got stabbed today.

:tu

[DMC]

Your intuition about my state of mind and intention are way off, you're a shitty empath. I've always been a high volume poster, and this is a story of high prominence/importance.

Ive posted the good the bad and the silly about COVID, you just roam around snapping towels and biting ankles.

Vive la difference.

Pettifogging and gas lighting.

[DMC]

And :lol I'm not going to be guilt-tripped by someone whose ignorance as part of a collective cult of science deniers led to the deaths of far more elderly people than me getting a vaccine marketed as "no eligibility requirements."

I did my part to prevent the spread. You mocked people like me for a year. Eat a dick.

https://media2.giphy.com/media/l2JecetuZ9ZlozV6w/giphy.gif

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Trumptards

[Winehole23]

Pettifogging and gas lighting.And ankle biting.

That's pretty much all you add to the experience.

[Winehole23]

Pettifogging and gas lighting.Me telling you you're wrong about my state of mind is gaslighting how?

Are you sure you're familiar with the definition? :lol

[SnakeBoy]

2.9 million people got stabbed today.

:tu

bUt HoSpItAlS aRe GoInG tO gEt OvEwHeLmEd


did I do that right?

[Winehole23]

bUt HoSpItAlS aRe GoInG tO gEt OvEwHeLmEd


did I do that right?Who predicted hospitals would be overwhelmed? I recall you ruling out the possibility, but I don't think even hater called that one.

[Winehole23]

1370129944882331649

[Winehole23]

In a smaller trial conducted in South Africa - where volunteers were primarily exposed to another newer, more contagious variant widely circulating there and spreading around the world - the Novavax vaccine was 55% effective, based on people without HIV, but still fully prevented severe illness.


Novavax Chief Medical Officer Filip Dubovsky said the performance in South Africa suggests there may still be a case for using it in areas where the South African variant is dominant.
https://news.yahoo.com/novavax-vaccine-96-effective-against-210607421.html

[Winehole23]

Profits must be protected, that's the most important thing.

(c.f. Jonas Salk and the polio vaccine)

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[DMC]

Who predicted hospitals would be overwhelmed? I recall you ruling out the possibility, but I don't think even hater called that one.

No one. It was never uttered.

[SnakeBoy]

Who predicted hospitals would be overwhelmed? I recall you ruling out the possibility, but I don't think even hater called that one.

You've been freaking out over an increase in the cases of sniffles?

[Winehole23]

You've been freaking out over an increase in the cases of sniffles?I haven't been freaking out at all. I'm just a frequent poster.

[boutons_deux]

Profits must be protected, that's the most important thing.

(c.f. Jonas Salk and the polio vaccine)

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Milton Friedman said companies have NO obligations to anybody or anything except their (Capitalist) shareholders.

Fuck Milton Friedman

[Winehole23]

Prioritizing IP rights over human health is perverse. Letting hundreds of millions of people of people remain unvaccinated for a year or two or more seems counterintuitive from the perspective of beating a global pandemic.

[boutons_deux]

Prioritizing IP rights over human health is perverse. Letting hundreds of millions of people of people remain unvaccinated for a year or two or more seems counterintuitive from the perspective of beating a global pandemic.

Capitalism is rigged for Capitalists. Every human, everything is secondary to amassing Capital.

[SnakeBoy]

Prioritizing IP rights over human health is perverse. Letting hundreds of millions of people of people remain unvaccinated for a year or two or more seems counterintuitive from the perspective of beating a global pandemic.

Welcome to the real world Miss America

[pgardn]

Capitalism is rigged for Capitalists. Every human, everything is secondary to amassing Capital.


Welcome to the real world Miss America

Here you got the far left and the far right both telling you the real world is nothing but cruel.
Dont you dare believe anyone in the US has ever sacrificed for something bigger than individual selfishness.

[Winehole23]

Welcome to the real world Already there. Obvious things need saying every now and then. No social order is eternal, that's realism, the cheap nihilism that forecloses all possibility of change in advance is naive and simpleminded.

[pgardn]

Already there. Obvious things need saying every now and then. No social order is eternal, that's realism, the cheap nihilism that forecloses all possibility of change in advance is naive and simpleminded.

oh crap...

Thats a hell of a lot better than I could produce.
:bobo

[Winehole23]

Italy to lock down again.


Italy is facing another lockdown, as the government attempts to contain a recent surge of coronavirus cases, marred by the presence of new variants (https://cnn.com/2021/01/28/health/variants-coronavirus-new-popping/index.html).

Half of Italy's 20 regions, which include the cities Rome, Milan and Venice, will be entering new coronavirus restrictions from Monday, March 15. The measures will be effective through April 6, according to a decree passed by Italian Prime Minister Mario Draghi's cabinet on Friday.

In regions demarcated as "red zones" people will be unable to leave their houses except for work or health reasons, with all non-essential shops closed. In "orange zones," people will also be banned from leaving their town and their region -- except for work or health reasons -- and bars and restaurants will only be able to do delivery and take-away service.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/13/europe/italy-coronavirus-national-lockdown-intl/index.html

[boutons_deux]

"41 percent of GOP voters would choose not to be vaccinated, even if a shot were offered to them. "

"as many as 30 percent of U.S. adults could refuse to receive a vaccine."

https://www.newsweek.com/biden-touts-covid-vaccines-republican-unconvinced-poll-1575604 (https://www.newsweek.com/biden-touts-covid-vaccines-republican-unconvinced-poll-1575604)

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

https://i.ibb.co/HgYV8bS/E38-BE448-357-E-49-C4-8935-1-D0519-D2307-B.jpg

[Winehole23]

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[boutons_deux]

Vaccine-induced antibodies may be less effective against several new SARS-CoV-2 variants

neutralizing antibodies induced by the Pfizer and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines were

significantly less effective against the variants first described in Brazil/Japan and South Africa.

the three new strains first described in South Africa were

20-40 times more resistant to neutralization,

and the two strains first described in Brazil and Japan were

five to seven times more resistant,

compared to the original SARS-CoV-2 virus."

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/03/210312140013.htm

[Winehole23]

Tweet thread on school reopenings in the UK. Asymptomatic transmission in schools post-reopening correlates with increased community transmission.

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[boutons_deux]

Hundreds of covid cases reported at Tesla plant following Musk's defiant reopening, county data shows



https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Hundreds-of-covid-cases-reported-at-Tesla-plant-16022691.php

[Winehole23]

(Sloppy seconds on the same page, a boutons hallmark.)

[DMC]

New York, like other states, waited too long to lockdown, and seems to have gotten hit hard for it.

Trump pissed away an entire month when he could have been urging states to close down and get ready.

Failure of leadership at all levels.

Once the crisis hit Cuomo did everything he could, and really deserves high marks. Organized, competent, good work ethic, listens to science, and accepts responsibility.

Trump is quite the opposite. Disorganized, incompetent, golfs and tweets, listens to conspiracy theories, and does not accept any responsbility.

Yes, Cuomo has done, overall, a good job, with a huge mistake of waiting too long to lock down.

Sorry that doesn't fit into your narrative of Trump worship. TDS on overdrive.

Have another cup of bleach flavored Koolaid.

:lol

[Winehole23]

*The pilot said we're on final approach, why can't we deplane?*

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[DarrinS]

Tweet thread on school reopenings in the UK. Asymptomatic transmission in schools post-reopening correlates with increased community transmission.

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If you're "essential", get vaccinated and get back to work.

[ChumpDumper]

If you're "essential", get vaccinated and get back to work.Not everyone is classified as an essential worker, cunt.

[Winehole23]

If you're "essential", get vaccinated and get back to work.Sorry, teachers don't make the rules.

[Winehole23]

DarrinS misses the point. Not so much workplace safety, though that's important, as community transmission.

[ChumpDumper]

DarrinS misses the point. Not so much workplace aafety, though that's important, as community transmission.You have to remember, he's not very smart. He just wants to be snarky and passive aggressive about every single thing.

[DarrinS]

Sorry, teachers don't make the rules.

They're eligible

[ChumpDumper]

They're eligible:lol still doesn't get it

[DarrinS]

Not everyone is classified as an essential worker, cunt.

Need to work those anger issues out. Get some exercise.

[DarrinS]

"On March 2nd, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services issued a directive that all states immediately make eligible teachers, school staff, and childcare workers for COVID-19 vaccination across all vaccination providers."

[ChumpDumper]

Need to work those anger issues out. Get some exercise.I get plenty of exercise.

No need to keep projecting your deficiencies on other people, cunt.

[ChumpDumper]

"On March 2nd, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services issued a directive that all states immediately make eligible teachers, school staff, and childcare workers for COVID-19 vaccination across all vaccination providers.":lmao you still don't get it

Go back and try again, cunt.

[DarrinS]

I get plenty of exercise.

No need to keep projecting your deficiencies on other people, cunt.


Based on the massive amount of time spent behind that keyboard, I doubt it.

Your anger is still showing, btw. Get help.

[ChumpDumper]

Based on the massive amount of time spent behind that keyboard, I doubt it.Your dumb ass voted for Trump in 2020. :lmao


Your anger is still showing, btw. Get help.I'm just calling you a cunt, Darrin.

Have you figure out where you fucked up?

[DarrinS]

:lmao you still don't get it

Go back and try again, cunt.


I like that you try to accentuate the c-word, to zero effect. :lol

So mad. :lol

[DarrinS]

Your dumb ass voted for Trump in 2020. :lmao

I'm just calling you a cunt, Darrin.

Have you figure out where you fucked up?


I like that you try to accentuate the c-word, to zero effect. :lol

So mad. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

I like that you try to accentuate the c-word, to zero effect. :lol

So mad. :lolIt triggers you. That's an effect.

:lmao "c-word"

You figure out where you fucked up yet?

[DarrinS]

COLOR="#000000" is black, btw.

:lmao

[DarrinS]

Just bold it or something, you tard. :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

COLOR="#000000" is black, btw.

:lmaoNo shit, genius. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Just bold it or something, you tard. :lmao:lol so angry.

You need some exercise, fatty.

Same amount of work posting it either way.

[DarrinS]

No shit genius. :lol

So, what's the point? No one can tell.

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[ChumpDumper]

So, what's the point? No one can tell.

^COLOR="#000000":lmao just another thing you can't figure out, cunt.

[DarrinS]

:lol so angry.

You need some exercise, fatty.

Same amount of work posting it either way.


I weighed 165 as a senior in HS.

Currently, 150.

[ChumpDumper]

I weighed 165 as a senior in HS.

Currently, 150.Judging from your posts I doubt it, tubbs.

Do some crunches.

[DarrinS]

Judging from your posts I doubt it, tubbs.

Do some crunches.


Doubt whatever you want.

[ChumpDumper]

Doubt whatever you want.So you're pretty much Ben Shapiro. Everyone should read your posts in that voice.

[DarrinS]

So you're pretty much Ben Shapiro. Everyone should read your posts in that voice.

No. I'm taller, deeper voice, and don't talk anywhere near that fast.

[ChumpDumper]

No. I'm taller, deeper voice, and don't talk anywhere near that fast.I'm 6'2" 195lbs of twisted railroad steel and sound like Lou Rawls, Benny boy.

[DarrinS]

I'm 6'2" 195lbs of twisted railroad steel and sound like Lou Rawls, Benny boy.

I'm sure

[ChumpDumper]

I'm sureRight, lard ass.

[SnakeBoy]

COLOR="#000000" is black, btw.

:lmao

:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao Snakeboi doesn't get it either.

[ChumpDumper]

I mean, you guys really think I'm typing all that?

[DarrinS]

I mean, you guys really think I'm typing all that?

No. I think you're clicking on something that has no visual effect.

[ChumpDumper]

No. I think you're clicking on something that has no visual effect.Exactly.

:lmao Darrin

[Winehole23]

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[boutons_deux]

Trash got vaxxed secretly, hidden from his cult mob, but he has had no effect on the sheeple he worked to turn against everything governmental

Trash refused to join the other ex-Pres to promote vaccination. As always and forever, FUCK TRASH

Fauci says vaccine hesitancy among Republicans poses a risk:

‘I just don’t get it’

Reluctance among certain parts of the population to receiving a vaccine is

one of the biggest risks to coronavirus control efforts, President Joe Biden’s chief medical adviser said.

41% of people who identify as Republicans, including

49% of GOP-leaning men,

said they would not get one of the three federally approved coronavirus vaccines.

Among Democratic-leaning men, only 6% said the same.

“We’ve got to dissociate political persuasion from common sense, no-brainer public health things,” Fauci said.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/03/14/nation/fauci-says-vaccine-hesitancy-among-republicans-poses-risk-i-just-dont-get-it

[DarrinS]

CDC study finds about 78% of people hospitalized for Covid were overweight or obese

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/08/covid-cdc-study-finds-roughly-78percent-of-people-hospitalized-were-overweight-or-obese.html

[Adam Lambert]

One year ago today, this galaxy-brained take was posted.


2009-2010 - H1N1 outbreak, known as swine flu. Obama declares national emergency 6 months after first US registered case and after 1000 Americans already died. Overall, we lost 12,000+ people in the USA. According to liberals, Obama kept swine flu under control.
2020 coronavirus outbreak - around 40 victims...same liberals say Trump lost control already.


Noticeably, most of the other COVID deniers don't really post here any more.

[Winehole23]

the orange line is Americans over 65


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwdIvdVXIAEfF1Y?format=png&name=900x900

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwZC76bXMAcYoTK?format=jpg&name=medium

[Winehole23]

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[boutons_deux]

Owners of Hospital Conglomerate Made Billions as Health Care Workers Lacked PPE

“While key workers put their lives on the line to keep the country running, and mutual aid groups desperately tried to plug the holes created by decades of cuts to our social fabric, billionaires and big corporate interests have made a killing.”

HCA has reaped enormous profits by squeezing workers and cutting costs, while showering top management with lavish compensation.

HCA made nearly $4 billion in profits in 2020 during the pandemic, up more than $200 million from 2019.

At the same time the company cut supply costs by $112 million, even though workers spoke out for months about inadequate PPE and having to reuse single use equipment like masks and gloves.

HCA’s staffing levels were 29 percent below the national average. HCA’s low staffing levels have been linked to poor patient outcomes.

For example, low staffing levels at HCA’s Colorado hospitals may have contributed to patient death as well as other preventable harm.

https://truthout.org/articles/owners-of-hospital-conglomerate-made-billions-as-health-care-workers-lacked-ppe/ (https://truthout.org/articles/owners-of-hospital-conglomerate-made-billions-as-health-care-workers-lacked-ppe/)

Capitalism's for-profit health care fucks everybody, except the Capitalists, by design.