Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

[spurraider21]

Florida Teen Dies After Mother Took Her to Church Coronavirus Party, Then Treated Her With Hydroxychloroquine (https://www.newsweek.com/florida-teen-dies-after-mother-took-her-church-coronavirus-party-then-treated-her-1515781)


rmt (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=4593) can you tell us who else was at the party?

[slick'81]

https://www.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_fs/1.5012943.1594070432!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_1020/image.jpg

Heat maps showing covid 19 cases in us and canada eh

[ElNono]

Florida Teen Dies After Mother Took Her to Church Coronavirus Party, Then Treated Her With Hydroxychloroquine (https://www.newsweek.com/florida-teen-dies-after-mother-took-her-church-coronavirus-party-then-treated-her-1515781)


rmt (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=4593) can you tell us who else was at the party?

:lol

[hater]

https://www.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_fs/1.5012943.1594070432!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_1020/image.jpg

Heat maps showing covid 19 cases in us and canada eh

:lmao

[hater]

It was already embarrassing seeing the EU and Canada shut their borders to us, but fucking Mexico did it too. Get in here hater. LOL we're the shithole country of North America.

https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/coronavirus/article243985782.html

:lmao

They should have paid for that wall

called it

[ElNono]

:lmao

They should have paid for that wall

called it

Brotha, you in Medellin yet? Do they accept Americans there? :lol

[Blake]

Florida Teen Dies After Mother Took Her to Church Coronavirus Party, Then Treated Her With Hydroxychloroquine (https://www.newsweek.com/florida-teen-dies-after-mother-took-her-church-coronavirus-party-then-treated-her-1515781)


rmt (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=4593) can you tell us who else was at the party?

Lol

[Blake]

https://www.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_fs/1.5012943.1594070432!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_1020/image.jpg

Heat maps showing covid 19 cases in us and canada eh

What's that one spot in the Atlantic ocean

[ChumpDumper]

What's that one spot in the Atlantic oceanProbably Bermuda.

[Reck]

1280523451200086016

:lmao :lmao
hater get in here

[hater]

Yeah this is the 2nd or 3rd time he is infected. :lmao he hid he had it 2 other times

He is the definition of a superspreader :lmao

Puts away the theory that we build immunity. Hopefully he overdoses on chloroquine which he has been taking for months and is probably not a good idea :lol


https://twitter.com/klubusph/status/1280525788656406529?s=19

[hater]

Sadly he will recover and talk more shkt about this being a mild cold :lol

Thats why hopefully he at least goes blind due to chloroquine :lol

[RandomGuy]

Coronavirus: Brazil's President Bolsonaro tests positive
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-53319517?fbclid=IwAR05KDCSGSjUVD_1G0Kgk8M-0hU44tGy2PU85S1zZzaClwso5Ru4kfcqmaY

[hater]

This piece of human excrement has infected more ppl than a 2 bit hooker :lmao

https://twitter.com/businessinsider/status/1280551894302195715?s=19

[hater]

https://twitter.com/EderMauroPA/status/1280552924817604608?s=19

:lmao piece of humanoid maggot shit :lol

[SpursforSix]

Probably Bermuda.

wtf...has it always been there?

[CosmicCowboy]

wtf...has it always been there?

yep

[boutons_deux]

I haven’t seen any reports that flat out say the virus causes long term disability. Even your hotez tweet walked back from saying people are being permanently harmed.

I’m not saying there is that link or that there isn’t. Just that the literature hasn’t concluded one way or another. So you can calm down from your little tizzy.

There is increasing number of anecdotes.

eg, if your lungs are 25% - 50% destroyed, you are permanently disabled

I've read some real horror stories 2 or 3 months after surviving. A insane variety of symptoms.

[TimDunkem]

117 dead today in Arizona. The death rates in states seeing spikes will continue to rise as the 25 day lag time between infections passes and hospitals continue to see surges.

[boutons_deux]

I haven’t seen any reports that flat out say the virus causes long term disability. Even your hotez tweet walked back from saying people are being permanently harmed.

I’m not saying there is that link or that there isn’t. Just that the literature hasn’t concluded one way or another. So you can calm down from your little tizzy.

There is increasing number of anecdotes.

eg, if your lungs are 25% - 50% destroyed, you are permanently disabled

I've read some real horror stories 2 or 3 months after surviving. A insane variety of symptoms.

[TimDunkem]

Welp.

1280092649559597057

[TSA]

117 dead today in Arizona. The death rates in states seeing spikes will continue to rise as the 25 day lag time between infections passes and hospitals continue to see surges.

https://twitter.com/AZDHS/status/1280521426844303360

https://twitter.com/Hold2LLC/status/1280561221436137472

[TimDunkem]

https://twitter.com/AZDHS/status/1280521426844303360

https://twitter.com/Hold2LLC/status/1280561221436137472

I mean, that's sort of good news. Too bad the 25 days haven't passed yet. This gon' age like milk.

[pgardn]

wtf...has it always been there?

Thats a flat map.
If you look at it on the globe it looks further South imo.
Have you seen how enormous Greenland looks on a flat (2-d) map?
Its big, but for gosh sakes a flat map distorts areas on a globe.

[SpursforSix]

Thats a flat map.
If you look at it on the globe it looks further South imo.
Have you seen how enormous Greenland looks on a flat (2-d) map?
Its big, but for gosh sakes a flat map distorts areas on a globe.

I thought I had seen Greenland on a flat map but I just looked and you're right. It's about as big as Africa.
Although I will say that it's bigger than I thought. Didn't realize it was larger than South America.

[TimDunkem]

I thought I had seen Greenland on a flat map but I just looked and you're right. It's about as big as Africa.

Bend over. I'll fuckin' give ya's something as big as Africa.

[SpursforSix]

Bend over. I'll fuckin' give ya's something as big as Africa.

:lol

[boutons_deux]

It's about as big as Africa.


sq miles:

Greenland 0.830M

Africa 12M

[SpursforSix]

sq miles:

Greenland 0.830M

Africa 12M

I mean on the map.

Although I was misreading the sq miles as 8.3 million.

So I feel vindicated in thinking that South America was larger. But also stupid for not really knowing it.

Anyway, that makes the flat map even more distorted.

[FlAVaK]

https://www.travelbook.de/data/uploads/2018/11/bildschirmfoto-2018-11-13-um-13.24.51_1542112018.jpg

[tholdren]

Bend over. I'll fuckin' give ya's something as big as Africa.
Your sympathy request from when you lied about covid? That was big

[Reck]

Your sympathy request from when you lied about covid? That was big

Do you believe in anything?

[tholdren]

Do you believe in anything?

Yes. Do you?

[pgardn]

Do you believe in anything?

Yes.

He believes in lying and just making shit up.

[boutons_deux]

'We'll be living with masks for years':

COVID-19 through the eyes of a pandemic expert

to walk through a theoretical coronavirus outbreak and examine how governments and private businesses would respond.

The goal of the simulations is to help public health experts and policymakers better prepare for the eventual day a real pandemic arrives.

"The US response has been extraordinarily disappointing and wrongheaded,"

"Whenever there's been an opportunity to do the right thing,

we seem to have done the wrong thing.

The US has to recognize that it is competing for first or second position of

the worst affected country in the world."

there's going to be

no summertime lull

with a big wave in the fall.

It's clear that we are having a significant resurgence of cases in the summer, and they'll get bigger.

And it'll keep going until we lock things down again."

https://www.cnet.com/news/living-with-masks-for-years-covid-19-through-the-eyes-of-a-pandemic-expert/#ftag=CAD590a51e

[Blake]

"(CNN)The cough has come back, without warning and seemingly for no reason; so has the fatigue. True, neither are as debilitating as when I had the actual virus, but they are back.

Like many others, I am now coming to realize that I am living and suffering from the long tail of Covid-19.

I got infected back in mid-April. The onset of symptoms came quickly. I suddenly noticed I was feeling very tired and I had a new cough. I got tested and the morning after I received a phone call from the medical center, I had tested positive for coronavirus.

The virus is like a tornado. When it lands, it swirls through the body, causing chaos, confusion, coughs, wreaking damage to each organ it touches. Some won't survive its visit. For those that do, when it has gone, one surveys the damage to the human landscape and realizes it's much greater than first thought. My symptoms were on the milder side: I never had breathing difficulties, or loss of sense or smell. I was wiped-out tired and I always had "the cough," which has now returned......."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/07/health/richard-quest-covid-wellness-intl/index.html

[hater]

:lmao :lmao

https://twitter.com/blackstar1ne/status/1280930541848743941?s=19

[boutons_deux]

"(CNN)The cough has come back, without warning and seemingly for no reason; so has the fatigue. True, neither are as debilitating as when I had the actual virus, but they are back.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/07/health/richard-quest-covid-wellness-intl/index.html

I've read many articles like this.

After "survival", the symptoms remains for weeks or months, and symptoms vary from victim to victim, vary in intensity, and vary in time within one victim.

And like Quest, the attack doesn't have to be severe to have a long tail of nasty, debilitating symptoms.

Very much like very-hard-to-diagnose-Lupus because the symptoms vary so much from victim to victim.

Quest's clumsiness and mental delays sure sounds like his nervous system has been damaged.

[tholdren]

Yes.

He believes in lying and just making shit up.

Lol you've said each time the media has made a new state the "epicenter" there would be hospital overcapacity and mass deaths. S
You are 0 for everyday epicenter.

Which by media terms is a lot.


But but but I do t know how to calculate ifr.

Lol


Danger

[pgardn]

Lol you've said each time the media has made a new state the "epicenter" there would be hospital overcapacity and mass deaths. S
You are 0 for everyday epicenter.

Which by media terms is a lot.


But but but I do t know how to calculate ifr.

Lol


Danger

I said zero of what you wrote.

but you did say this was a mild flu.

[Blake]

Lol you've said each time the media has made a new state the "epicenter" there would be hospital overcapacity and mass deaths. S
You are 0 for everyday epicenter.

Which by media terms is a lot.


But but but I do t know how to calculate ifr.

Lol


Danger

/Lie

[ElNono]

'A gut punch': United Airlines to lay off up to 36,000 U.S. employees in October as travel remains depressed

United Airlines warned employees for months that mass layoffs loomed if travel didn't rebound, and the airline put a grim face on the expected tally Wednesday.

In a memo to employees, the Chicago-based airline said 36,000 employees, or 45% of its front-line workers in the USA and more than a third of its overall workforce of 95,000, face layoffs on or around Oct. 1. The most affected groups: flight attendants and airport customer service and gate agents, which account for 26,000 of the 36,000.

The airline calls them involuntary furloughs because most of the affected employees will be eligible to be recalled when travel demand returns under terms of their union contracts.

Airlines are prohibited from laying off workers until Oct. 1 under the payroll protection provisions of the federal Coronavirus Aid, Relief and Economic Security Act.

United received a $3.5 billion grant and $1.5 billion loan for payroll protection. The program was designed to stabilize airlines and keep workers employed until they could shrink their businesses to the travel reality brought on by the coronavirus pandemic.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/airline-news/2020/07/08/united-airlines-layoff-up-36-000-employees-october-coronavorus-fallout/5396857002/

[tholdren]

/Lie
Truth

Stanford eliminated 11 varsity sports due to disease with ifr less than flu. Great work pgardn

[Blake]

Truth

Stanford eliminated 11 varsity sports due to disease with ifr less than flu. Great work pgardn

Goal post move. /Lie

[tholdren]

'A gut punch': United Airlines to lay off up to 36,000 U.S. employees in October as travel remains depressed

United Airlines warned employees for months that mass layoffs loomed if travel didn't rebound, and the airline put a grim face on the expected tally Wednesday.

In a memo to employees, the Chicago-based airline said 36,000 employees, or 45% of its front-line workers in the USA and more than a third of its overall workforce of 95,000, face layoffs on or around Oct. 1. The most affected groups: flight attendants and airport customer service and gate agents, which account for 26,000 of the 36,000.

The airline calls them involuntary furloughs because most of the affected employees will be eligible to be recalled when travel demand returns under terms of their union contracts.

Airlines are prohibited from laying off workers until Oct. 1 under the payroll protection provisions of the federal Coronavirus Aid, Relief and Economic Security Act.

United received a $3.5 billion grant and $1.5 billion loan for payroll protection. The program was designed to stabilize airlines and keep workers employed until they could shrink their businesses to the travel reality brought on by the coronavirus pandemic.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/airline-news/2020/07/08/united-airlines-layoff-up-36-000-employees-october-coronavorus-fallout/5396857002/

looks like you're getting your wish.

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/107604480_3103451246367831_5820029320242242233_n.p ng?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=3VOXDupQpF8AX8GpKtl&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=481a12e37707bb040e321f7bd75a1c7d&oe=5F2B4DA8

[ElNono]

looks like you're getting your wish.

what's my wish? quote, link?

[tholdren]

what's my wish? quote, link?

Your wish. Unknown lives prolonged for ruining lives. You state it every day. You believe that those at risk for covid should have precedence over those not. This is why you post.

[ElNono]

Your wish. Unknown lives prolonged for ruining lives. You state it every day. You believe that those at risk for covid should have precedence over those not. This is why you post.

yep, no quote or link. caught lying again. c'est la vie.

[ChumpDumper]

what's my wish? quote, link?You caught th:lolldren in another lie. He's going to go into meltdown mode now.

[Will Hunting]

You caught th:lolldren in another lie. He's going to go into meltdown mode now.
He’s easily the most unhinged edgelord on this site.

[SpursforSix]

I've read many articles like this.

After "survival", the symptoms remains for weeks or months, and symptoms vary from victim to victim, vary in intensity, and vary in time within one victim.

And like Quest, the attack doesn't have to be severe to have a long tail of nasty, debilitating symptoms.

Very much like very-hard-to-diagnose-Lupus because the symptoms vary so much from victim to victim.

Quest's clumsiness and mental delays sure sounds like his nervous system has been damaged.

BigPharma should be a big winner in all this. Think of all the meds they'll have to push to deal with all the lasting issues.

[ChumpDumper]

He’s easily the most unhinged edgelord on this site.He's been spiraling out of control since his colossal failure in March. Keeps trying to spin that he was right 130,000 deaths later.

[tholdren]

BigPharma should be a big winner in all this. Think of all the meds they'll have to push to deal with all the lasting issues.

Chumpdump doesn't understand this #eugenics

[ChumpDumper]

Chumpdump doesn't understand this #eugenicsth:lolldren lies

Why do you lie about everything?

Insecurity?

Childhood abuse?

[tholdren]

Bwahahaahahahaha ChumpDumper lololoololokl avoidance

[Reck]

Bwahahaahahahaha ChumpDumper lololoololokl avoidance

Meltdown acquired. Guess he was right, eh?

[tholdren]

Meltdown acquired. Guess he was right, eh?

Bwahahahaaahhaaha alt chimes in bwahahahahahhahahahah

[ChumpDumper]

Meltdown acquired. Guess he was right, eh?Yep. th:loldren just trying anything to distract from his saying 130k dead US citizens are nothing to him.

[tholdren]

Yep. th:loldren just trying anything to distract from his saying 130k dead US citizens are nothing to him.

chumpdump doesn't even know how many deaths are actually from covid and no comorbidities. Still waiting.... he won't answer because he knows its less than flu

[ChumpDumper]

chumpdump doesn't even know how many deaths are actually from covid and no comorbidities. Still waiting.... he won't answer because he knows its less than fluYou said the deaths are nothing. You made no distinction at all.

130,000 dead Americans are nothing to you. All you do is laugh at the thought of 130,000 dead Americans.

[tholdren]

You said the deaths are nothing. You made no distinction at all.

130,000 dead Americans are nothing to you. All you do is laugh at the thought of 130,000 dead Americans.

Covid the main cause for? 10 29 60?

[ChumpDumper]

Covid the main cause for? 10 29 60?You made no distinction at all. Don't try to walk it back now.

The deaths of 130,000 Americans are nothing to you.

[tholdren]

You made no distinction at all. Don't try to walk it back now.

The deaths of 130,000 Americans are nothing to you.

Bwahahahahahha you dont even know. Just like your typical gossip. Beahahahaahahha

So.much science you use. Lol

[ChumpDumper]

Bwahahahahahha you dont even know. Just like your typical gossip. Beahahahaahahha

So.much science you use. LolI know you said 130,000 dead Americans are nothing to you. What more do I need to know?

[hater]

The US is going to get quarantined by the international community. A million international students per year will stop coming here. 80 million tourists per year will find less diseased places to visit. America will be the national version of a leper.

[midnightpulp]

Bwahahahahahha you dont even know. Just like your typical gossip. Beahahahaahahha

So.much science you use. Lol

Show your math.

[baseline bum]

Show your math.

Dr Tholdren Ph.D doesn't publish. Would have loved to have seen his thesis defense tbh.

[baseline bum]

The US is going to get quarantined by the international community. A million international students per year will stop coming here. 80 million tourists per year will find less diseased places to visit. America will be the national version of a leper.

Will be? What do you you mean will be? Fucking Mexico already wouldn't let us in. What's next? Haiti saying, nah we good to Americans wanting to travel?

[tholdren]

Chumpdump and Karen's the like have ruined the usa with their anti science and social media

Case in point lamelo ball top pick loloolololok

[midnightpulp]

Chumpdump and Karen's the like have ruined the usa with their anti science and social media

Case in point lamelo ball top pick loloolololok

Show your math.

[Trainwreck2100]

well he's snapped, he ain't even trying anymore

[tholdren]

Show your math.

Bwahahahahahha you cant figure out ifr or cfr yet your gossiping. Lolololol

[TimDunkem]

Chumpdump and Karen's the like have ruined the usa with their anti science and social media

Case in point lamelo ball top pick loloolololok
You had more skill in HS than the average NBA player today right, tholdren?

[tholdren]

You had more skill in HS than the average NBA player today right, tholdren?

Lolololololol here you are triggered and scared.
You lied about covid

[TimDunkem]

You had more skill in HS than the average NBA player today right, tholdren?

[tholdren]

You had more skill in HS than the average NBA player today right, tholdren?

Nwabwahhahahahahha you said you had covid and so triggered you keep deflecting. Loloolololol

[TimDunkem]

You had more skill in HS than the average NBA player today because you hit shots from a shortened 3pt line right, tholdren?

[tholdren]

You had more skill in HS than the average NBA player today because you hit shots from a shortened 3pt line right, tholdren?
Didn't have a 3 pt line when I played. Every player in high school had to shoot over 45 pct or they didn't play.

Today's nba.

Lolol

#1 pick has to have social media hype because he can't shoot. Llloll anyone could make the NBA with current scrubs.

[boutons_deux]

56 Florida hospitals hit 100% ICU capacity as

GOP’s DeSantis defends refusal to release coronavirus data

At least 56 Florida hospitals in 25 different counties have hit 100% ICU capacity,

. In all, the state has just 962 out of a total of 5,023 ICU beds available as infections continue to rise.

One expert said contact tracing has become impossible (https://nbcpalmsprings.com/2020/07/07/contact-tracing-no-longer-possible-across-the-south-due-to-rapid-coronavirus-surges/), because here are so many infections now in South Florida.

“It’s these games with public records. They won’t release it unless there’s public pressure or a lawsuit filed. It’s infuriating,” he told The Miami Herald (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/florida-still-not-reporting-how-many-hospitalized-with-covid-desantis-wont-say-why/ar-BB16sfEO).

“I suspect that one of the concerns is that we are going to see a divergence in numbers.”

“Much of the [health department’s] case data doesn’t match the AHCA data, and the AHCA data . . . third parties are publishing doesn’t match the data AHCA publishes themselves,”

the state has also refused to publish any data on testing and cases in prisons and jails, demographic data on who is being tested, local death data and any contact tracing data.

the state reported a “record of 16.27% of all coronavirus tests coming back positive . . . more than double the national seven-day moving average,”

“Certainly, all indications are things are not getting better.

They are not getting steady,”

“They are getting worse.”

“This is spreading quite rapidly throughout Florida, and

this virus is going to be around for a very long time,”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/56-florida-hospitals-hit-100-icu-capacity-as-gops-desantis-defends-refusal-to-release-coronavirus-data/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4940

[boutons_deux]

America is running short on masks, gowns and gloves.

Again.

Health-care workers are scrambling for supplies and

reusing equipment as the coronavirus pandemic

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/07/08/ppe-shortage-masks-gloves-gowns/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/07/08/ppe-shortage-masks-gloves-gowns/)

C19 test are also in short supply, being rationed.

[baseline bum]

Didn't have a 3 pt line when I played. Every player in high school had to shoot over 45 pct or they didn't play.

Today's nba.

Lolol

#1 pick has to have social media hype because he can't shoot. Llloll anyone could make the NBA with current scrubs.

LOL angry boomer gonna give himself a heart attack. I'll make sure to have TimDunkem cough on you so you can get counted a COVID death after.

[TimDunkem]

LOL angry boomer gonna give himself a heart attack. I'll make sure to have TimDunkem (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=16114) cough on you so you can get counted a COVID death after.
Mother fucker just confirmed how ancient he is with the "we didn't have a 3pt line in mah day" shit. Told you he was an old-washed up boomer. :lol

No wonder he religiously denies science and relentlessly minimizes the pandemic every chance he gets. Old fuck is probably scared out of his mind. :lmao

[boutons_deux]

GOP has all but given up on containment —

instead they’re feeding Americans to the ‘coronavirus meatgrinder’

GOP Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is focused on protecting companies from liability if they infect their employees or customers, while

President Trump threatens to cut off funding from schools that don’t open in the fall.

“For months now Republicans have been positing a tradeoff between pandemic containment and the economy,

as if we just cancel the lockdowns then everything can go back to normal,”

it was obvious that Trump wasn’t going to take coronavirus seriously from the beginning.

his constant chatter about slowing down the rate of testing so that he won’t look bad.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/gop-has-all-but-given-up-on-containment-instead-theyre-feeding-americans-to-the-coronavirus-meatgrinder-op-ed/

[tholdren]

Mother fucker just confirmed how ancient he is with the "we didn't have a 3pt line in mah day" shit. Told you he was an old-washed up boomer. :lol

No wonder he religiously denies science and relentlessly minimizes the pandemic every chance he gets. Old fuck is probably scared out of his mind. :lmao

Bwahahahaaha name calling. You said you had covid and wanted sympathy for your headache. Lolololol

And you're so mad that covid is less deadly than originally thought.

Lol today's nba fans.

[boutons_deux]

"only" :lol

US weekly jobless claims hit 1.3 million, less than economist forecasts



US jobless claims for the week that ended Saturday totaled 1.3 million, the Labor Department said Thursday. That came in below the consensus economist estimate of 1.38 million.
Thursday's report marked the 14th straight week of declining claims. It also brought total filings over a 16-week period to nearly 50 million.
Continuing claims, the aggregate total of people receiving unemployment benefits, totaled 18.1 million for the week that ended June 27.



https://www.businessinsider.com/us-jobless-claims-filings-unemployment-insurance-coronavirus-recession-economy-labor-2020-7

14th STRAIGHT week of 1M+ unemployment claims

[pgardn]

Look at thefoldren and his math in his God's strange time scale:

For the 1/100th time, the reason we show so many Cases, compared to other countries that haven’t done nearly as well as we have, is that our TESTING is much bigger and better. We have tested 40,000,000 people. If we did 20,000,000 instead, Cases would be half, etc. NOT REPORTED!


Explain foldren

Does the president work in time scale units of 100,000 as the whole so that he really meant 100th?
He was just testing us using your fractions?

For the 0.01 th time... cool.

[TimDunkem]

Bwahaha Crying about :cry name calling :cry when literally all you do is troll.

Bwahaha saying shooting 45% on 2s is impressive. Tholdren old washed-up scrub confirmed

Bwahaha pwned by PG again

Bwahaha:lmao

[pgardn]

For the 1/100th time, the reason we show so many Cases, compared to other countries that haven’t done nearly as well as we have, is that our TESTING is much bigger and better. We have tested 40,000,000 people. If we did 20,000,000 instead, Cases would be half, etc. NOT REPORTED!


Explain foldren



And now we know why global warming is false.

We are measuring it too often with too many instruments.

Damn it, we are good!

[tholdren]

Bwahaha Crying about :cry name calling :cry when literally all you do is troll.

Bwahaha saying shooting 45% on 2s is impressive. Tholdren old washed-up scrub confirmed

Bwahaha pwned by PG again

Bwahaha:lmao
45 percent fg is 8 pct better than today's 1st pick. Lololol

Your math

[tholdren]

Look at thefoldren and his math in his God's strange time scale:

For the 1/100th time, the reason we show so many Cases, compared to other countries that haven’t done nearly as well as we have, is that our TESTING is much bigger and better. We have tested 40,000,000 people. If we did 20,000,000 instead, Cases would be half, etc. NOT REPORTED!


Explain foldren

Does the president work in time scale units of 100,000 as the whole so that he really meant 100th?
He was just testing us using your fractions?

For the 0.01 th time... cool.

beahahahahahahhahahah no.

RandomGuy alt. Divide by 2. LolIolilokk

[tholdren]

The current approach to dealing with COVID-19 carries significant risks to overall population health and threatens to increase inequities across the country. Aiming to prevent or contain every case of COVID-19 is simply no longer sustainable at this stage in the pandemic. We need to accept that COVID-19 will be with us for some time and to find ways to deal with it.



The current and proposed measures for reopening will continue to disproportionately impact lower income groups, Black and other racialized groups, recent immigrants to Canada, Indigenous peoples and other populations. And it risks significantly harming our children, particularly the very young, by affecting their development, with life-long consequences in terms of education, skills development, income and overall health.

Canada must work to minimize the impact of COVID-19 by using measures that are practical, effective and compatible with our values and sense of social justice. We need to focus on preventing deaths and serious illness by protecting the vulnerable while enabling society to function and thrive.



Elimination of COVID-19 is not a practical objective for Canada until we have a vaccine. While there is hope for a vaccine to be developed soon, we must be realistic about the time it will actually take to develop and evaluate it and then deliver an immunization campaign covering the entire population. We cannot sustain universal control measures indefinitely.



We need to accept that there will be cases and outbreaks of COVID-19. We need localized control measures that are risk-based. We should consistently reassess quarantine and isolation periods, recommendations for physical distancing and non-medical masks, and travel restrictions based on current best evidence and levels of risk.

At the same time we must improve infection prevention and control in long-term care and congregate living settings. We should provide support for people living in the community who need to or choose to isolate when the disease is active, as well as those who have been adversely affected by COVID-19, or the consequences of the public health measures.

Canadians have developed a fear of COVID-19. Going forward, they have to be supported in understanding their true level of risk, and learning how to deal with this disease, while getting on with their lives – back to work, back to school, and back to healthy lives and vibrant, active communities across this country.

We acknowledge the heroic work that has been done in recent months by many across all levels of government and the public and private sector, and the sacrifices that Canadians have made to get to this stage. As we look forward, Canada must balance its response to COVID-19.

[TimDunkem]

Bwahaha triple post melllllltttdooooownnnn :lol

[tholdren]

Bwahaha triple post melllllltttdooooownnnn :lol

Lol canada doctors say I'm right. Lolololooolllool

But but but.



Bwahahjahahahsh

[pgardn]

Look at thefoldren and his math in his God's strange time scale:

For the 1/100th time, the reason we show so many Cases, compared to other countries that haven’t done nearly as well as we have, is that our TESTING is much bigger and better. We have tested 40,000,000 people. If we did 20,000,000 instead, Cases would be half, etc. NOT REPORTED!


Explain foldren

Does the president work in time scale units of 100,000 as the whole so that he really meant 100th?
He was just testing us using your fractions?

For the 0.01 th time... cool.

[TimDunkem]

Bwahahaha set 2s at 45% sooo impressive

Bwahaahahaha:lmao

[tholdren]

How are all the hospitals you said were over capacity? Oh that was not true and gossip. Lol your logic

[TimDunkem]

Bwahahaha F5F5F5F5F5

Bwahaha :cry you calling me names :cry

Bwahaha Grandpa telling the kids that 45% on set 2s is impressive

Bwahaha "there was no 3 ball when I played"

BWAHAHAHAHAHA :lmao

[TimDunkem]

Bwahaha Pwned

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/107604019_3554705454559368_20857591288663302_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=111&_nc_sid=1480c5&_nc_ohc=-1cQJA8VPecAX_D9aJd&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=2d9babd70e38f3bdfb7faad6306fa3c6&oe=5F2BC5A6

[tholdren]

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/107604019_3554705454559368_20857591288663302_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=111&_nc_sid=1480c5&_nc_ohc=-1cQJA8VPecAX_D9aJd&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=2d9babd70e38f3bdfb7faad6306fa3c6&oe=5F2BC5A6
Lol

[TimDunkem]

LOLOLOLOLOL Set 2s at 45% impressive - th:lolldren

BWAHAHAHA

[hater]

Great. :lol

new viral pnemonia from Khazakstan coming through

Much deadlier than Covid. Communities there already quarantining

[hater]

:lmao the human race

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1281228801641504769?s=19

[Winehole23]

1281341552942440448

[pgardn]

:lmao the human race

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1281228801641504769?s=19

I have yet to see anything about this virus being new.
They are having a bad outbreak and made our list of where not to go, while we are on most everyone else's list.

[pgardn]

1281341552942440448

just my opinion
but I think when they actually get more time to assess this we are going to see various organs deprived of O2 showing decreased efficiency and failure. Nervous system and kidneys especially as they will be more obvious. Those who had breathing difficulty as a symptom especially, although some people who had no difficulty breathing had very low O2 levels and should have exhibited breathing problems. There is still a lot of weird associated with getting this.

[CosmicCowboy]

Without a kickass vaccine we are gonna live (or die) with this shit forever.

[pgardn]

Without a kickass vaccine we are gonna live (or die) with this shit forever.


We will figure this out despite Trump because we still have the best people in biological science.
And if allowed to work truthfully with the rest of the world, we will not only have a vaccine, we will learn the long term consequences and figure out how to mitigate the damage.

Its been a hard lesson though.

As far as health care goes, we are still fd though.
The current idiot needs out, he lied, he had zero for a plan.

[boutons_deux]

we still have the best people in biological science.


bullshit

There are excellent, brilliant, hard working researchers all over the planet giving their best to find a vaccine. USA does not have any exclusivity on talent or resources.

What America does have is the most predatory, corrupt, greedy BigPharma that will exploit, preferably monopolize, any vaccine(s) to suck wealth from citizens into the pockets of Capitalists.

[pgardn]

bullshit

There are excellent, brilliant, hard working researchers all over the planet giving their best to find a vaccine. USA does not have any exclusivity on talent or resources.

What America does have is the most predatory, corrupt, greedy BigPharma that will exploit, preferably monopolize, any vaccine(s) to suck wealth from citizens into the pockets of Capitalists.

We have THE BEST BIOLGICAL Scientists in the world hands down.
A bunch of them are kids of Indian and Chinese people who came over here because they valued the education and the freedom.
The last two descriptors are being eroded by one term of a horrible president.

We are the center for all of the research they do in other countries that is top notch now.
There is no disputing this. The WHO knows this as well which is why they rely on US so heavily.

You dont know what you are talking about. Go anywhere in the world and ask this truthfully and get a truthful answer, its US.

[boutons_deux]

Any superiority the US has in biomedical research is not x times above number 2, which is rapidly advancing China, and there is no guarantee that any US superiority will produce the "winning" vaccine.

[boutons_deux]

Health experts are increasingly convinced that the

only way to stop America's rapidly worsening coronavirus situation is to reimpose stay-at-home orders
“Stay-at-home is a blunt instrument,”

“But when you’re leading the world in new cases and things don’t seem to be getting better, you may have to use that blunt instrument.”

“We see the hurricane coming.

In some places, it’s already here.

The question is whether you’re going to evacuate your citizens from the path.”

White House ... pressuring federal health agencies to fall in line with President Trump's rosy outlook on the pandemic.

The administration has also resumed pushing people to take hydroxychloroquine ...

Navarro is now pushing the agency to reauthorize the drug, citing a new study that many scientists says is flawed.

“Children are clearly at low risk of serious illness from covid-19,”

“But it’s unclear to what extent they can still transmit it to each other and

to vulnerable adults — such as their teachers or family members.”

-- WaPo C19 email

[boutons_deux]

Our Minds Aren’t Equipped for This Kind of Reopening

As states ease restrictions on businesses, individuals face a psychological morass.

Reopening is a mess.

Americans’ disgust should be aimed at governments and institutions, not at one another.

Individuals are being asked to decide for themselves what chances they should take,

but a century of research on human cognition shows that

people are bad at assessing risk in complex situations.

During a disease outbreak,

vague guidance and ambivalent behavioral norms will lead to thoroughly flawed thinking.

Pandemic decision making implicates at least two complex cognitive tasks:

moral reasoning and risk evaluation.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/07/reopening-psychological-morass/613858/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=atlantic-daily-newsletter&utm_content=20200710&silverid=NjMwMjkwNjYyOTQ2S0

[boutons_deux]

‘Worse Than New York’:

How Coronavirus Exploded in South Carolina

South Carolina is besieged by the coronavirus, reporting more cases per capita than most countries.

“We’ve completely lost control of the situation,” one doctor told the Beast.

“We’re going to be worse than New York,”

“But at least in New York, people took the virus seriously.

Here, we’re in a war zone that

people refuse to accept.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/south-carolinas-coronavirus-outbreak-is-worse-than-most-countries (https://www.thedailybeast.com/south-carolinas-coronavirus-outbreak-is-worse-than-most-countries)

[boutons_deux]

I was sent this link for con man and his bullshit rhetoric.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/oZJIhduczyuW/

the comments show how easily simpletons are conned, one is even "locked and loaded" :lol

[boutons_deux]

Without a kickass vaccine we are gonna live (or die) with this shit forever.

Poll: 40% of Republicans won’t get coronavirus vaccine

https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-coronavirus-poll-40-of-republicans-wont-get-coronavirus-vaccine-20200603-a5na6g7pavdmdizk5qyrmcja3y-story.html (https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-coronavirus-poll-40-of-republicans-wont-get-coronavirus-vaccine-20200603-a5na6g7pavdmdizk5qyrmcja3y-story.html)

[boutons_deux]

American Passports Are Worthless Now

Americans have gone from having access to most of the world to being banned from most of it.

Today, Americans are only allowed in a few Caribbean islands and the Balkans. An American passport is now worthless.

Worse than worthless, it’s a plague.

think it is difficult for Americans to understand that

they are, to use an epidemiological term, completely fucked.

In the absence of a humane government, America is now ruled by COVID-19.

January 2021. Given than you need a functioning government to manage this pandemic, that’s the soonest Americans can get one.

It’s far too late.

The most reliable projections (https://covid19-projections.com/) are saying

200,000 dead and

50 million infected

by election day in November.

Even these projections struggle to account for

completely irrational federal actions like

denigrating masks,

pushing to reopen early, and

pushing students back into schools.

This is not the absence of public health, this is its opposite.

America will be lucky to exit this pandemic with less than a million dead and 100 million infected.

you can’t trust Americans.

Americans have poor hygiene (low masking rate) and

at least 40% of the population can’t be trusted to even believe that COVID-19 exists, let alone to take it seriously.

Americans have a toxic combination of ignorance and arrogance that makes them unwelcome travelers.

A world that largely suppresses the virus —

from Mongolia (https://medium.com/@indica/covid-underdogs-mongolia-3b0c162427c2) to Ghana (https://medium.com/@indica/covid-underdogs-ghana-b77ca29192a7) to Trinidad & Tobago (https://medium.com/@indica/how-trinidad-tobago-got-covid-all-out-33bc10d99a8) —

but which has to keep America in isolation.

https://medium.com/@indica/the-plague-states-of-america-53b20678a80e

[tholdren]

‘Worse Than New York’:

How Coronavirus Exploded in South Carolina

South Carolina is besieged by the coronavirus, reporting more cases per capita than most countries.

“We’ve completely lost control of the situation,” one doctor told the Beast.

“We’re going to be worse than New York,”

“But at least in New York, people took the virus seriously.

Here, we’re in a war zone that

people refuse to accept.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/south-carolinas-coronavirus-outbreak-is-worse-than-most-countries (https://www.thedailybeast.com/south-carolinas-coronavirus-outbreak-is-worse-than-most-countries)




Lolololololl

Said the same thing about South Dakota.

Hilarious

[pgardn]

Any superiority the US has in biomedical research is not x times above number 2, which is rapidly advancing China, and there is no guarantee that any US superiority will produce the "winning" vaccine.

I agree with this.
But in biological sciences overall WE are the best. We need and do cooperate with China to get even better stuff. The lady that actually found the bats with this virus and is really responsible for helping us follow the virus as it creeps and crosses the world is from China. She ran all this stuff by us before she even published. She has been instrumental in this whole thing in finding the probable location where this thing arose. The rest of the world can get samples and run their RNA so we can follow it. We set up all these techniques. We have far outdone other countries is the creation of new techniques in molecular biology.

But at this rate it wont last with a guy in office who does not understand the advantage of recruiting capable people in science. The only advantage we have now is a bit more freedom in their ability to publish, otherwise they are starting to get more freedom to search and do basic research in stuff they are interested in and in their home country. this is my take. Orange guy is totally a waste at this and does not get the majority of these people just want to do their thing and not get involved in politics. If he does not like what they see, he dismisses them. So they have to be politicians and science people at the same time and this is not a good thing.

[DMC]

blah blah blah orange man bad, never mind governors and mayors in every city in every state still don't know whether to shit or go blind.

[ChumpDumper]

I agree with this.
But in biological sciences overall WE are the best. We need and do cooperate with China to get even better stuff. The lady that actually found the bats with this virus and is really responsible for helping us follow the virus as it creeps and crosses the world is from China. She ran all this stuff by us before she even published. She has been instrumental in this whole thing in finding the probable location where this thing arose. The rest of the world can get samples and run their RNA so we can follow it. We set up all these techniques. We have far outdone other countries is the creation of new techniques in molecular biology.

But at this rate it wont last with a guy in office who does not understand the advantage of recruiting capable people in science. The only advantage we have now is a bit more freedom in their ability to publish, otherwise they are starting to get more freedom to search and do basic research in stuff they are interested in and in their home country. this is my take. Orange guy is totally a waste at this and does not get the majority of these people just want to do their thing and not get involved in politics. If he does not like what they see, he dismisses them. So they have to be politicians and science people at the same time and this is not a good thing.Well said. He's a terrible president and that needs to be repeated.

[midnightpulp]

Well said. He's a terrible president and that needs to be repeated.

Man do I hope he inks off on DACA. I think he sees the writing on the wall that he ain't winning reelection and that inner limousine liberal he was in the 80s is rearing its head, so he's no longer being totally inflexible on every perceived liberal cause to appease the base. Wingnut twitter is pretty pissed he's softening on DACA, meaning lost votes.

[ChumpDumper]

Man do I hope he inks off on DACA. I think he sees the writing on the wall that he ain't winning reelection and that inner limousine liberal he was in the 80s is rearing its head, so he's no longer being totally inflexible on every perceived liberal cause to appease the base. Wingnut twitter is pretty pissed he's softening on DACA, meaning lost votes.Since they had to cancel the rally they probably just sat around and wondered what they could do to get his poll numbers back up so expect a left turn on obviously popular issues like a DACA and a CARES extension. Masking up was a gesture in this direction. Dear Leader will expect gratitude.

[midnightpulp]

Since they had to cancel the rally they probably just sat around and wondered what they could do to get his poll numbers back up so expect a left turn on obviously popular issues like a DACA and a CARES extension. Masking up was a gesture in this direction. Dear Leader will expect gratitude.

And we won't give it to him :lol. He'll only lose some of the base. Desperation move, indeed.

[boutons_deux]

Nearly 1 in 4 US teachers at greater risk of becoming seriously ill if infected with coronavirus

Kaiser Family Foundation ... looked at a series of factors identified by the Centers of Disease Control which could indicate that a person could be “more likely than others to become severely ill,” when they are exposed to the virus.

They include several underlying health conditions — such as

diabetes,
chronic obstructive pulmonary disease,
heart disease,
moderate or severe asthma,
having a body mass index of greater than 40, or
having a compromised immune system due to, for example, treatment for cancer —
as well as being age 65 and older.

The analysis found that about 1.47 million teachers and instructors in the country — nearly 24% of the entire workforce — have a condition that will put them at higher risk of serious illness from coronavirus.

means that “they may require hospitalization, intensive care, or a ventilator to help them breathe, or they may even die.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/nearly-1-in-4-us-teachers-at-greater-risk-of-becoming-seriously-ill-if-infected-with-coronavirus/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/nearly-1-in-4-us-teachers-at-greater-risk-of-becoming-seriously-ill-if-infected-with-coronavirus/)

[boutons_deux]

MISgoverned USA not doing enough testing to control the pandemic.

Testing is now rationed due to lack of test kits and/or lab capacity.

btw, the The Trump Pandemic surge has surpassed the need for PPE, also being rationed, re-used, etc.



https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=c5ffe9fe07&attid=0.2&permmsgid=msg-a:r-4692981268441156077&th=17342b8c7c1728e2&view=fimg&sz=s0-l75-ft&attbid=ANGjdJ8D1Ieo5ffONouq6QgzckBk8w3Llxgp0tNzHnz LsRBo08icKEadRT7tMxnRet9MMlcuiOr9y1_aCbh4Npdi_tip1 WktTR7st3Lm4yVbpFYLrTGsrqolHK9ouuQ&disp=emb&realattid=ii_kciz8ter1

[boutons_deux]

A collection of cartoons about "smart people" vs ignorant cult mob in the mask wars (America LOVES wars)

https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/1_mckee_2.jpg?itok=PU7YXRmd

https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/2_wolverton_0.jpg?itok=AESD3AVs

https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/3_darkow.jpg?itok=PHopkdsN

https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/4_breen_3.jpg?itok=3sYBdC2X

https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/5_sack_1.png?itok=_eb6PWaf

[DarrinS]

Good interview


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIkkMetCbTQ

[TimDunkem]

15k cases in Florida today.

[boutons_deux]

15k cases in Florida today.

deaths/day have increased in the last day or two,

negating the decline achieved in the last couple weeks.

about 600 deaths/day or about another 75K deaths by 3 Nov

[Blake]

blah blah blah orange man bad, never mind governors and mayors in every city in every state still don't know whether to shit or go blind.

And orange man likes it that way so he can take credit when good and give blame when bad. You and he will never give him any blame.

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/109066526_3113493675363588_3023458095210117956_n.p ng?_nc_cat=106&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=lwjPaM-q0b8AX9NmC-d&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=2d5af782a5ef5a8e460d2cf1ba8240ea&oe=5F2FDADF

[Blake]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/109066526_3113493675363588_3023458095210117956_n.p ng?_nc_cat=106&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=lwjPaM-q0b8AX9NmC-d&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=2d5af782a5ef5a8e460d2cf1ba8240ea&oe=5F2FDADF

https://i.insider.com/5f0b14f83f73704a8221fdb3?width=1200&format=jpeg

[tholdren]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/109066526_3113493675363588_3023458095210117956_n.p ng?_nc_cat=106&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=lwjPaM-q0b8AX9NmC-d&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=2d5af782a5ef5a8e460d2cf1ba8240ea&oe=5F2FDADF
Lockdowns don't work

[spurraider21]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EcyE1L2U8AAKgZs?format=png&name=900x900

[midnightpulp]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EcyE1L2U8AAKgZs?format=png&name=900x900

A Goddamn cult. But then I wonder how many are bots?

https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/05/21/1002105/covid-bot-twitter-accounts-push-to-reopen-america/

Not that means they're not a cult and their members aren't legion, but the disinfo campaign (probably by Russia) is worrisome since it ropes in the cult further and further.

[boutons_deux]

USA being too risky, NHL holding all remaining games in Canada

Only a handful of countries accept pariah USA's toxic, diseased travelers

[boutons_deux]

'Extremely Regrettable': Okinawa Governor Rips US for Letting Covid-19 Infections Surge on American Military Bases

"Infections are rapidly spreading among U.S. personnel when we Okinawans are doing our utmost to contain the infections."

Okinawa Gov. Denny Tamaki slammed the U.S. military over the weekend for not taking sufficient action to prevent the spread of Covid-19 after

dozens of Marines stationed on the Japanese island tested positive,

threatening to spark a large outbreak in a community where the virus has otherwise been well-contained.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/07/13/extremely-regrettable-okinawa-governor-rips-us-letting-covid-19-infections-surge?cd-origin=rss

[boutons_deux]

Infectious Disease Expert Says Miami is the New Wuhan:

‘Now the Epicenter for the Virus’

https://am13.mediaite.com/med/cnt/uploads/2020/07/Miami-Eva-Marie-UzcateguiGetty-Images.png

The state has now experienced an overall total of 282,435 confirmed cases, with 67,713 — or 24 percent — in Miami-Dade County.

Of that figure, 4,277 residents have died, or about 1.5 percent of those who have contracted the virus.

That figure falls well below a national average of more than 4 percent,

though the gap may narrow as new cases of the virus resolve.

https://www.mediaite.com/news/infectious-disease-expert-says-miami-is-the-new-wuhan-now-the-epicenter-for-the-virus/

[RandomGuy]

A Goddamn cult. But then I wonder how many are bots?

https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/05/21/1002105/covid-bot-twitter-accounts-push-to-reopen-america/

Not that means they're not a cult and their members aren't legion, but the disinfo campaign (probably by Russia) is worrisome since it ropes in the cult further and further.

Eyup.

Next administration will have its hands full fighting back.

[baseline bum]

Infectious Disease Expert Says Miami is the New Wuhan:

‘Now the Epicenter for the Virus’

https://am13.mediaite.com/med/cnt/uploads/2020/07/Miami-Eva-Marie-UzcateguiGetty-Images.png

The state has now experienced an overall total of 282,435 confirmed cases, with 67,713 — or 24 percent — in Miami-Dade County.

Of that figure, 4,277 residents have died, or about 1.5 percent of those who have contracted the virus.

That figure falls well below a national average of more than 4 percent,

though the gap may narrow as new cases of the virus resolve.

https://www.mediaite.com/news/infectious-disease-expert-says-miami-is-the-new-wuhan-now-the-epicenter-for-the-virus/




Lots of pneumonia deaths though probably

[boutons_deux]

Long delays in getting test results hobble coronavirus response

Test results for the novel coronavirus (https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/02/28/what-you-need-know-about-coronavirus/?itid=lk_inline_manual_2) are taking so long to come back that experts say the results across the United States are often proving useless in the campaign to control the deadly disease.

Some testing sites are struggling to provide results in five to seven days.

Others are taking even longer.

Outbreaks across the Sun Belt have strained labs beyond capacity.

That rising demand, in turn, has caused shortages of swabs, chemical reagents and equipment as far away as New York.

making it impossible for the United States to replicate the central strategy used by other countries to effectively contain the virus — test, trace and isolate.

“It makes contact tracing almost useless. By the time a person is getting results, they already have symptoms, their contacts may already have symptoms and have gone on to infect others.”

because of a lack of federal coordination, supply shortages and surging demand as outbreaks in some states spiral out of control.

“Instead of building that out,

our federal response was to do the very least possible.

So each time the system is stretched now, it breaks down all over again,”

free tests are available at the federal, state and local level.

As demand has surged, it has created backlogs and choke points at almost every step of the testing chain.
“It’s not shortages of any one thing. It’s now spot shortages of all of them,”

“Clinical labs need
more swabs,
chemical reagents,
viral transport media,
test kits,
machines to process the tests,
staffing to run the machines.”

As bad as the testing lags seem now, experts warn, they will almost certainly worsen in the fall once flu season hits.

“You’re going to see so many more symptomatic people,

who won’t know if they have the flu or coronavirus and are going to need testing for both,”

“We’re expecting a coming crush of tests, even more than we’re seeing now.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/long-delays-in-getting-test-results-hobble-coronavirus-response/2020/07/12/d32f7fa8-c1fe-11ea-b4f6-cb39cd8940fb_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/long-delays-in-getting-test-results-hobble-coronavirus-response/2020/07/12/d32f7fa8-c1fe-11ea-b4f6-cb39cd8940fb_story.html?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1 QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJjb29raWVuYW1lIjoid3BfY3J 0aWQiLCJpc3MiOiJDYXJ0YSIsImNvb2tpZXZhbHVlIjoiNTk3N DBkYjNhZGU0ZTIxYTg0OTNmZGFlIiwidGFnIjoiNWYwY2NhNWJ mZTFmZjY0ODJkYmRhMGM3IiwidXJsIjoiaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cud 2FzaGluZ3RvbnBvc3QuY29tL2hlYWx0aC9sb25nLWRlbGF5cy1 pbi1nZXR0aW5nLXRlc3QtcmVzdWx0cy1ob2JibGUtY29yb25hd mlydXMtcmVzcG9uc2UvMjAyMC8wNy8xMi9kMzJmN2ZhOC1jMWZ lLTExZWEtYjRmNi1jYjM5Y2Q4OTQwZmJfc3RvcnkuaHRtbD91d G1fY2FtcGFpZ249d3BfdG9feW91cl9oZWFsdGgmdXRtX21lZGl 1bT1lbWFpbCZ1dG1fc291cmNlPW5ld3NsZXR0ZXImd3Bpc3JjP W5sX3R5aCZ3cG1rPTEifQ.CijOXxxPOqsVKv7U-6xLZ9WLRgiBOZClrqz2tfehPLo&utm_campaign=wp_to_your_health&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_tyh&wpmk=1)

Where's the Defense Production Act for C19 testing?

[hater]

Lots of pneumonia deaths though probably

Wuhan had 3,500 deaths tbqh

When its all said and done Im sure Miami will be the next NYC

[boutons_deux]

France's health workers given pay rises worth €8bn


The French government has agreed to give pay rises worth €8bn (£7.2bn; $9bn) to health workers, as it hailed their role in fighting coronavirus.

The deal was signed with trade unions on Monday after seven weeks of fraught negotiations.

Health workers have been revered as heroes during the pandemic with regular displays of public appreciation.

But they wanted more than recognition and have held protests to demand pay rises and better funding for hospitals.

Now the government has reached an agreement on pay that will see the wages of health workers rise by €183 a month on average.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53398208#

otoh, in USA, for-profit hospitals have laid off staff because the revenue procedures have been reduced.

and Lady G says $600 too high because it's more than nurses make

[Blake]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EcyE1L2U8AAKgZs?format=png&name=900x900

Like clockwork

[tholdren]

Eyup.

Next administration will have its hands full fighting back.

lol you said texas would be out of hospitals by today..

Lol

WrongdomGuy


And his math

Bababababbabababw

[midnightpulp]

This is in Georgia.

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[Blake]

This is in Georgia.

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JUST GOSSIP PLENTY OF BEDS IN THE GEORGIA DOME

[midnightpulp]

JUST GOSSIP PLENTY OF BEDS IN THE GEORGIA DOME

:lol.

Yeah, he doesn't understand the reason he's isn't seen a capacity overflow on the state dashboards and such is because many hospitals in these hotspots are diverting patients in an attempt to stay under capacity. And many of them might be diverted to nursing homes if that is the only option.

[midnightpulp]

JUST GOSSIP PLENTY OF BEDS IN THE GEORGIA DOME

Bit more on Georgia's ICU situation. Normally, their ICUs are about 22 percent occupied (see early March).

https://i.imgur.com/UUyYUkQ.png

Nothing to see here. All gossip.

[ducks]

Remind me again how many times YOU'VE seen the most trusted virus and infectious disease expert, Dr Anthony Fauci, wearing a mask during press briefings.

Interesting, ain't it?

[ElNono]

Remind me again how many times YOU'VE seen the most trusted virus and infectious disease expert, Dr Anthony Fauci, wearing a mask during press briefings.

Interesting, ain't it?

At least 5 times...

https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2020/05/15/USAT/f2e657a2-8f6b-4477-ae8e-8391d80489f9-VPC_TRUMP_MASK_OPTION_AP_WIDE.jpg

https://media.wzzm13.com/assets/WZZM/images/eb4e70ae-fdf6-47c1-9a9e-fd02c4fb4e8c/eb4e70ae-fdf6-47c1-9a9e-fd02c4fb4e8c_750x422.jpg

https://sunbeamwhdh.files.wordpress.com/2020/06/200623_fauci_mask.jpg?quality=60&strip=color

https://news.regis.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Fauci_Mask_1400x600.png

https://www.nydailynews.com/resizer/dOWPNbQhh89h0H9zInH26m-Rki8=/415x276/top/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/tronc/CCXWJS3AQVFJ5MPNNKH7V2DWSI.jpg

[ElNono]

Great read from one of the top epidemiologist in the nation...

Larry Brilliant on How Well We Are Fighting Covid-19
https://www.wired.com/story/larry-brilliant-on-how-well-are-we-fighting-covid-19/

[boutons_deux]

Great read from one of the top epidemiologist in the nation...

Larry Brilliant on How Well We Are Fighting Covid-19

https://www.wired.com/story/larry-brilliant-on-how-well-are-we-fighting-covid-19/ (https://www.wired.com/story/larry-brilliant-on-how-well-are-we-fighting-covid-19/)

yep, more proof of how the proper contributions of America's talents have been crushed by Trash and his mafiya of All SMASH MOUTH HARDBALL Politics All The Time

Fuck Trash, fuck his mafiya, and fuck EVERY SINGLE motherfucker who voted for him and STILL approve of him.

40% approval, S T I L L ?

That's a large enough ignorant, stupid, bad faith minority to retard, to block any progress by America, if America ever again tried to make progress.

America is fucked and unfuckable. In permanent decline.

[boutons_deux]

Covid-19 Patients Are Struggling To Cope After Leaving Hospitals

Patients who battle severe after-effects of the viral infection are turning to local doctors or YouTube videos for help in the absence of post-discharge rehab protocols.

https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5f070bee1f0000ae07337c39.jpeg?cache=x4ufg33kgv&ops=crop_0_244_780_591,scalefit_720_noupscale

The severe lung damage caused by SARS CoV-2 has left the 30-year-old prone to exertional dyspnea, which makes him constantly feel like he’s running out of breath.

Months after the pandemic began, it’s clear that Covid-19 wreaks havoc in the lungs of moderate to critically ill patients as they grapple with weakness, breathlessness and fatigue for weeks, if not months.

It’s like the lungs forget their primary function.

Hence, say experts, pulmonary rehabilitation, aimed at reminding the lungs to do what they do—

inhale, exhale and supply a good amount of oxygen to the body through a set of individualised but monitored exercises—

is critical to the recovery process.

“I still have cramps, shivering and unexplainable weakness.

Moving from the bed to pick up the cell phone lying on the side table is exhausting,”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/covid-19-patients-are-struggling-to-cope-after-leaving-hospitals_n_5f0cbfafc5b6310dc1572008?ncid=newsltus hpmgnews (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/covid-19-patients-are-struggling-to-cope-after-leaving-hospitals_n_5f0cbfafc5b6310dc1572008?ncid=newsltus hpmgnews)

[boutons_deux]

https://ci6.googleusercontent.com/proxy/1yfLUmCLQEFhIP4c3kRR9W6WhpqC4nV3mfkeJ2LTYtnvY4zcve IxIZRh33LU9JRamqV09I3HkY5uT7rglH1sHfwoEHYzpo4JYksQ WQ3_i6yaWewMfSJBOPSC1DP5n4Yx=s0-d-e1-ft#https://c.apple.news/AgEkYTM3ZGRmMDUtNGQ2YS00Y2ZmLWFhMTAtNGQ1Y2NkN2FhZW QyADE3

-- WSJ email

[hater]

Called it

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1282955838924173314?s=19


The 2nd wave will make the first wave look like a weekend at lake Gaston

For us americans, we are still in wave 1. The 2nd wave will probably come Nov-Dec to coincide with flu season and will be clearly seen when NYC starts spiking up again.

[hater]

Great read from one of the top epidemiologist in the nation...

Larry Brilliant on How Well We Are Fighting Covid-19
https://www.wired.com/story/larry-brilliant-on-how-well-are-we-fighting-covid-19/

Meh he is full of shit here when asked about BLM protesters.

Of course, it concerns me. But the vast majority have been wearing masks, and we are not seeing the bumpettes that I would expect.

:lol majority have been wearing masks? How does this fuckface know that for a fact? And their masks were either completely sweat soaked or hanging from their chins

:lol

"Scientist"

[Trill Clinton]

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/Y6JD2xUzrIRU8U8MONCeaA--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTY0MDtoPTY0MA--/https://media-mbst-pub-ue1.s3.amazonaws.com/creatr-uploaded-images/2020-06/a80be580-aced-11ea-afdd-16c0583366f4

[tholdren]

Called it

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1282955838924173314?s=19


The 2nd wave will make the first wave look like a weekend at lake Gaston

For us americans, we are still in wave 1. The 2nd wave will probably come Nov-Dec to coincide with flu season and will be clearly seen when NYC starts spiking up again.
Any flu will be covid death.

[TSA]

The COVID Pandemic Could Lead to 75,000 Additional Deaths from Alcohol and Drug Misuse and Suicide

https://wellbeingtrust.org/news/new-wbt-robert-graham-center-analysis-the-covid-pandemic-could-lead-to-75000-additional-deaths-from-alcohol-and-drug-misuse-and-suicide/

[hater]

The COVID Pandemic Could Lead to 75,000 Additional Deaths from Alcohol and Drug Misuse and Suicide

https://wellbeingtrust.org/news/new-wbt-robert-graham-center-analysis-the-covid-pandemic-could-lead-to-75000-additional-deaths-from-alcohol-and-drug-misuse-and-suicide/

And the children. Dont forget about all the dead children.

[ChumpDumper]

The COVID Pandemic Could Lead to 75,000 Additional Deaths from Alcohol and Drug Misuse and Suicide

https://wellbeingtrust.org/news/new-wbt-robert-graham-center-analysis-the-covid-pandemic-could-lead-to-75000-additional-deaths-from-alcohol-and-drug-misuse-and-suicide/If you're advocating an enormous expansion of mental health care access like that organization is, I agree with you.

What does that have to do with potential infections in schools?

[midnightpulp]

The COVID Pandemic Could Lead to 75,000 Additional Deaths from Alcohol and Drug Misuse and Suicide

https://wellbeingtrust.org/news/new-wbt-robert-graham-center-analysis-the-covid-pandemic-could-lead-to-75000-additional-deaths-from-alcohol-and-drug-misuse-and-suicide/

Agreed!


The brief notes that if the country fails to invest in solutions that can help heal the nation’s isolation, pain, and suffering, the collective impact of COVID-19 will be even more devastating.

Maybe we can peel off a cool 200 billion off the defense budget next year to "invest in these solutions." Nah, we won't do that. Better just to force these people back to work so the stock market can get a bump.

[Spurs Homer]

The COVID Pandemic Could Lead to 75,000 Additional Deaths from Alcohol and Drug Misuse and Suicide

https://wellbeingtrust.org/news/new-wbt-robert-graham-center-analysis-the-covid-pandemic-could-lead-to-75000-additional-deaths-from-alcohol-and-drug-misuse-and-suicide/


only true fragile snowflakes

would kill themselves over - hanging out in their own home-


“ooh ooh im suffering because i cant go out and walk in the mall!


lol

[RandomGuy]

The COVID Pandemic Could Lead to 75,000 Additional Deaths from Alcohol and Drug Misuse and Suicide

https://wellbeingtrust.org/news/new-wbt-robert-graham-center-analysis-the-covid-pandemic-could-lead-to-75000-additional-deaths-from-alcohol-and-drug-misuse-and-suicide/

Report Calls for Increased Investment to Improve Access to High Quality Mental Health Services

Well, let's allocate some resources. Sounds good to me.

[slick'81]

Honestly i just hope lewis black survives the pandemic,because his next special is going to be fucking incredible

[slick'81]

Philadelphia has cancelled all large events for the next 6 months due to covid concerns. But as of right now, schools are still scheduled to reopen this fall :wtf

[ElNono]

Meh he is full of shit here when asked about BLM protesters.

Of course, it concerns me. But the vast majority have been wearing masks, and we are not seeing the bumpettes that I would expect.

:lol majority have been wearing masks? How does this fuckface know that for a fact? And their masks were either completely sweat soaked or hanging from their chins

:lol

"Scientist"

I'm sure you can opine different there... I do too as far as protests are concerned.

However, some of the other stuff he talked about was very interesting, like the pan-organ attack surface of the virus.

[ElNono]

The COVID Pandemic Could Lead to 75,000 Additional Deaths from Alcohol and Drug Misuse and Suicide

https://wellbeingtrust.org/news/new-wbt-robert-graham-center-analysis-the-covid-pandemic-could-lead-to-75000-additional-deaths-from-alcohol-and-drug-misuse-and-suicide/

I think it would be really important to have the Federal government fully engaged in putting resources to assist with mental health issues like these while we deal with this pandemic.

It's truly unfortunate they've been largely MIA so far, tbh

[hater]

I'm sure you can opine different there... I do too as far as protests are concerned.

However, some of the other stuff he talked about was very interesting, like the pan-organ attack surface of the virus.

If someon3 can lie so casually abouts something. You gotta take everything he says with a grain of salt

[ElNono]

If someon3 can lie so casually abouts something. You gotta take everything he says with a grain of salt

Well, I don't have to agree with their opinion on social issues, but I do have to take into account his professional expertise when it comes to the virus itself.

After all, he worked for the WHO before, he helped eradicate smallpox back in the day, and he is an epidemiologist after all.

He might not be no Dr H:loldren, but you know...

[DMC]

Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including more than 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure. This is about one in five deaths annually, or 1,300 deaths every day.Mar 23, 2020

Controllable death people pay money for.

[ChumpDumper]

WHATABOUT CIGARETTES?

[tholdren]

Congestion, runny nose, nausea and diarrhea are the four most recent COVID-19 symptoms that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention added to its growing list of potential signs of the novel coronavirus.

The CDC previously said symptoms include chills, fever, muscle pain, headache, sore throat and a new loss of taste or smell. The agency now lists 11 symptoms on its website

[spurraider21]

Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including more than 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure. This is about one in five deaths annually, or 1,300 deaths every day.Mar 23, 2020

Controllable death people pay money for.
Trump Derangement Syndrome

[FrostKing]

:sucker

[clambake]

Trump Derangement Syndrome

No shit

[DarrinS]

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6928e2.htm?s_cid=mm6928e2_w

[spurraider21]

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6928e2.htm?s_cid=mm6928e2_w
pretty bizarre that somebody would publish a study this small in scope

[midnightpulp]

pretty bizarre that somebody would publish a study this small in scope

Probably a vain attempt to try and get the antimaskers to fuckin' wear a mask. The situation took place in a blessed by God Southern State, so perhaps they feel this would make the antimaskers believe in it.

[boutons_deux]

100s of health workers killed, for-profit insurers say to their families: fuck you

Families of Health Workers Killed by COVID Fight for Denied Workers’ Comp Benefits

Anderson was exposed to the virus at work, the lawyer contends, making his family eligible for workers’ compensation death benefits paid by his employer’s insurer.

“His family deserves to have that income replaced,” Stern said. “Their husband and father certainly can’t be.”

But in a June 16 response to Stern’s death benefits claim,

sick workers and families of the dead face another daunting burden:

fighting for benefits from workers’ compensation systems that, in some states, are stacked against them.

Legal experts say that

in some states COVID-19 falls into a long-standing category of diseases like a cold or the flu —

conditions not covered by workers’ compensation —

with no plans to change that.

Other states force workers to prove they caught the virus at work, rather than from a family member or in the community.

https://khn.org/news/adding-to-covid-stress-families-of-health-workers-fight-for-denied-workers-comp-benefits/ (https://khn.org/news/adding-to-covid-stress-families-of-health-workers-fight-for-denied-workers-comp-benefits/)

Capitalism DOESN'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT YOU

[ChumpDumper]

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6928e2.htm?s_cid=mm6928e2_wShits on the placebo narrative some try to push around here.

[tholdren]

Probably a vain attempt to try and get the antimaskers to fuckin' wear a mask. The situation took place in a blessed by God Southern State, so perhaps they feel this would make the antimaskers believe in it.

Lolololo triggered

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/108001644_3122432557803033_2626482082346392602_n.p ng?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=xXaJpddvqcQAX-AgBRi&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=1d6064b514ae5d5870831d6214830896&oe=5F355610

[tholdren]

Texas fl az lots better than ny

[InRareForm]

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/jul/15/colombia-cartels-rebel-groups-coronavirus-lockdown-human-rights-watch

Colombia cartel's with a very strict policy

[Chris]

"15 days to slow the spread"

[ChumpDumper]

"15 days to slow the spread"Your Trump said it would go down to zero in 15 days.

[Chris]

Your Trump said it would go down to zero in 15 days.

Trump was listening to some faggot named Fauci

[ChumpDumper]

Trump was listening to some faggot named FauciQuote were Fauci said that or fold.

[midnightpulp]

"15 days to slow the spread"

And it worked.

[Blake]

At least 5 times...

https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2020/05/15/USAT/f2e657a2-8f6b-4477-ae8e-8391d80489f9-VPC_TRUMP_MASK_OPTION_AP_WIDE.jpg

https://media.wzzm13.com/assets/WZZM/images/eb4e70ae-fdf6-47c1-9a9e-fd02c4fb4e8c/eb4e70ae-fdf6-47c1-9a9e-fd02c4fb4e8c_750x422.jpg

https://sunbeamwhdh.files.wordpress.com/2020/06/200623_fauci_mask.jpg?quality=60&strip=color

https://news.regis.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Fauci_Mask_1400x600.png

https://www.nydailynews.com/resizer/dOWPNbQhh89h0H9zInH26m-Rki8=/415x276/top/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/tronc/CCXWJS3AQVFJ5MPNNKH7V2DWSI.jpg

Lol ducks

[hombre]

Texas fl az lots better than ny

This is the mouth breather that thought covid-19 would never get as bad in the US as it did in Italy.

[Blake]

This is the mouth breather that thought covid-19 would never get as bad in the US as it did in Italy.

Lololololol IFR durr

[InRareForm]

Great read tbh

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/15/sunday-review/coronavirus-history-pandemics.html

[tholdren]

Texas fl az lots better than ny

Ifr less than flu

[ChumpDumper]

IfrShow your math.

[tholdren]

Like Tegnell, Ioannidis early on expressed doubts about the effectiveness of lockdowns and warned they could produce wide-ranging unintended outcomes.

“One of the bottom lines is that we don’t know how long social distancing measures and lockdowns can be maintained without major consequences to the economy, society, and mental health,” Ioannidis wrote in a STAT article in March. "Unpredictable evolutions may ensue, including financial crisis, unrest, civil strife, war, and a meltdown of the social fabric.”

Sadly, many of the adverse consequences Ioannidis predicted have since come to pass, as he has acknowledged.

[spurraider21]

:lmao


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciYFgVpya5k

[ElNono]

A Republican governor that gets it...

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[TSA]

I'd seen data showing countries hit hard in last year's flu season are faring much better with covid now than countries with weak flu seasons last year...and this isn't encouraging for next year's flu season.

https://twitter.com/pdubdev/status/1283621530111369218

[midnightpulp]

Florida set another record. 156 reported deaths. And remember the backfill. These are likely deaths from two to four weeks ago when Florida's surge wasn't as large as it's been over the past two weeks.

:lol Team Reality

https://i.imgur.com/IbhIVyS.png

[midnightpulp]

^
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[midnightpulp]

I'd seen data showing countries hit hard in last year's flu season are faring much better with covid now than countries with weak flu seasons last year...and this isn't encouraging for next year's flu season.

https://twitter.com/pdubdev/status/1283621530111369218

Is this guy trying to imply that Covid deaths are simply "balancing the scales" per the CDC's multiyear projection of flu deaths? Further implying that there's nothing to see here. "Hey, when you zoom out over the past 3 years, we beat the death projections for respiratory illnesses!"

If he's trying to fire a warning shot to prepare for a very bad flu season that will run alongside Covid, fair enough. But I saw he retweets Justin Hart, so now I'm reading this with a bit more skepticism. Ah, there it is.

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I mean, just :lol. This is like saying we've beaten projected gun violence deaths over 3 years (by let's say 10,000) and then waving off a month of Stephen Paddock level mass shootings as "just playing catch up."

[TSA]

Is this guy trying to imply that Covid deaths are simply "balancing the scales" per the CDC's multiyear projection of flu deaths? Further implying that there's nothing to see here. "Hey, when you zoom out over the past 3 years, we beat the death projections for respiratory illnesses!"

If he's trying to fire a warning shot to prepare for a very bad flu season that will run alongside Covid, fair enough. But I saw he retweets Justin Hart, so now I'm reading this with a bit more skepticism. Ah, there it is.

1283745107204804617

I mean, just :lol. This is like saying we've beaten projected gun violence deaths over 3 years (by let's say 10,000) and then waving off a month of Stephen Paddock level mass shootings as "just playing catch up."

The quote you tweeted isn't even the same guy :lol

Previous flu seasons strength or weakness has been a good indicator for which countries have been hit hardest with covid. I wasn't aware we had two weak seasons in a row.

[midnightpulp]

The quote you tweeted isn't even the same guy :lol

Previous flu seasons strength or weakness has been a good indicator for which countries have been hit hardest with covid. I wasn't aware we had two weak seasons in a row.

I get that. I posted that reply because it seems the OP was chumming the waters for lockdown skeptics. Since he retweets Team Reality wonks, I figured that was his motive rather than a warning that it's going to get even worse during the winter.

[midnightpulp]

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[midnightpulp]

It begins.

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BaselineBum

[boutons_deux]

It was reported two days ago the hospital data to HHS would not be public.

One of the reasons for HHS exclusively controlling the data was for faster response and more transparency :lol

Anybody have a link the HHS pandemic data? :)

[baseline bum]

It begins.

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BaselineBum

Wasn't it Splits who was early on saying Trump would just stop counting the bodies once it was around 100,000? A little late, but that projection has turned out to be golden it looks like.

[TSA]

It begins.

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BaselineBum

Still showing for me

https://www.cdc.gov/nhsn/covid19/report-patient-impact.html#anchor_1587406850

[TSA]

It was reported two days ago the hospital data to HHS would not be public.

One of the reasons for HHS exclusively controlling the data was for faster response and more transparency :lol

Anybody have a link the HHS pandemic data? :)

This streamlining will allow the NHSN to increase its focus on another critical area for COVID-19, the nursing home and long-term care facility reporting needs—which, as we know, is also an absolutely central element of our pandemic response. All elements of our public health system are being stretched right now, and streamlining the hospital reporting system allows NHSN to concentrate its COVID-19 activity on the high-priority area of protecting the vulnerable in nursing homes.

To accomplish this, we have not changed the data ecosystem; we have merely streamlined the data collection mechanism for hospitals on the frontlines.

On the back end, whether collected by the CDC’s system, the third party vendor, or the states, the data ends up aggregated in the HHS Protect platform, where the CDC team and other federal response teams still have access to this information for their use in the response. Additionally, state and local public health departments also have access to this information in HHS Protect which allows them to access and use the same information that the federal response teams are using.

No one is taking access or data away from CDC.

I want to emphasize that having the fastest possible access to this data, as well as easy ways to analyze it, has very real benefits to our public health response. When we need to collect insights about emerging symptoms, for instance, which we are constantly learning more about, we can do that incredibly rapidly through TeleTracking.

This has no effect on CDC’s ability to use this data and continue churning out the daily data, the MMWRs, and the guidance we publish. In fact, the new infrastructure we have now actually provides our CDC team with easier access to a much broader variety of data sets than they would have without it.

Approximately 1,000 CDC experts have, and continue to have access to the raw data collected in HHS Protect—in addition to thousands of other public health professionals across HHS.

Our experts at the CDC are essential to our response, and that is why they have always had and continue to have access to all of the data we are collecting. That access is the same today as it was yesterday.

https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2020/07/15/prepared-remarks-from-hhs-media-call-cdc-director-redfield-cio-arrieta-covid-19-data-collection.html

[midnightpulp]

Still showing for me

https://www.cdc.gov/nhsn/covid19/report-patient-impact.html#anchor_1587406850

"Updated July 14"

[midnightpulp]

TSA

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[TSA]

"Updated July 14"

:bobo

[TSA]

TSA

1283794549501042688

Tweets don't show up on this computer for some reason. Only way I can read them is if you put the whole tweet link in the [tweet] brackets and then I copy/paste into a new window.

[midnightpulp]

This streamlining will allow the NHSN to increase its focus on another critical area for COVID-19, the nursing home and long-term care facility reporting needs—which, as we know, is also an absolutely central element of our pandemic response. All elements of our public health system are being stretched right now, and streamlining the hospital reporting system allows NHSN to concentrate its COVID-19 activity on the high-priority area of protecting the vulnerable in nursing homes.

To accomplish this, we have not changed the data ecosystem; we have merely streamlined the data collection mechanism for hospitals on the frontlines.

On the back end, whether collected by the CDC’s system, the third party vendor, or the states, the data ends up aggregated in the HHS Protect platform, where the CDC team and other federal response teams still have access to this information for their use in the response. Additionally, state and local public health departments also have access to this information in HHS Protect which allows them to access and use the same information that the federal response teams are using.

No one is taking access or data away from CDC.

I want to emphasize that having the fastest possible access to this data, as well as easy ways to analyze it, has very real benefits to our public health response. When we need to collect insights about emerging symptoms, for instance, which we are constantly learning more about, we can do that incredibly rapidly through TeleTracking.

This has no effect on CDC’s ability to use this data and continue churning out the daily data, the MMWRs, and the guidance we publish. In fact, the new infrastructure we have now actually provides our CDC team with easier access to a much broader variety of data sets than they would have without it.

Approximately 1,000 CDC experts have, and continue to have access to the raw data collected in HHS Protect—in addition to thousands of other public health professionals across HHS.

Our experts at the CDC are essential to our response, and that is why they have always had and continue to have access to all of the data we are collecting. That access is the same today as it was yesterday.

https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2020/07/15/prepared-remarks-from-hhs-media-call-cdc-director-redfield-cio-arrieta-covid-19-data-collection.html

Who runs the HHS? A Trump lackey.

You're a supposed Libertarian, so I have zero clue why you'd be in favor of the centralization of the data here that the public won't have access to?

In that official "Ministry of Truth" release, I see nothing about the data remaining open to the public. And again, the CDC's dashboard says:


The following downloadable file contains national and state estimates from the NHSN COVID-19 Module. This file will not be updated after July 14, 2020 and includes data from April 1 to July 14.

This is indefensible.

[TSA]

Who runs the HHS? A Trump lackey.

You're a supposed Libertarian, so I have zero clue why you'd be in favor of the centralization of the data here that the public won't have access to?

In that official "Ministry of Truth" release, I see nothing about the data remaining open to the public. And again, the CDC's dashboard says:



This is indefensible.

If that is the case it's stupid. John Hopkins will still be available to the public so we aren't in the dark.

[midnightpulp]

If that is the case it's stupid. John Hopkins will still be available to the public so we aren't in the dark.

Hopefully it gets routed to both at the same time. If it has go though the HHS channel before JHU, then...

[midnightpulp]

Rather than report information regarding Covid-19 hospitalizations and equipment to the Centers for Disease Control, hospitals across the country have now been told by the federal government to report that information to Pittsburgh-based TeleTracking Technologies Inc., according to an NPR report.

https://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburgh/news/2020/07/15/pittsburgh-based-company-to-take-over-for-cdc.html

This is like sending classified military information to Blackwater.

[Blake]

"ATLANTA (AP) — Mayors in Atlanta and other Georgia cities deepened their defiance of Gov. Brian Kemp on Thursday, saying they want their requirements for people to wear masks in public to remain in place, even after the Republican governor explicitly forbade cities and counties from mandating face coverings......"

.....
Although national health officials have called on people to use masks, President Donald Trump’s administration has not issued any nationwide guidance. Twenty-five states and the District of Columbia now require masks....."

https://apnews.com/3db1db2c24ad60d215733cb7820892d5


Jesus this country is run by fucking idiots

[hater]

https://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburgh/news/2020/07/15/pittsburgh-based-company-to-take-over-for-cdc.html

This is like sending classified military information to Blackwater.

You actually think thats not happening?

[TSA]

https://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburgh/news/2020/07/15/pittsburgh-based-company-to-take-over-for-cdc.html

This is like sending classified military information to Blackwater.This isn't new.

================================================== ================

In April, HHS leaders, with input from CDC, created a new system, called HHS Protect, that allows us to combine data through systems like NHSN, as well as other public and private sources. The data reported from hospitals that went into HHS Protect either came through the NHSN, directly to HHS Protect from the states, or through a system called TeleTracking.

What we have now asked is that, going forward, states provide data from hospitals directly through the TeleTracking system or directly to the HHS Protect system.

First, this reduces the reporting burden—it reduces confusion and duplication of reporting. Streamlining reporting enables us to distribute scarce resources using the best possible data.

TeleTracking also provides rapid ways to update the type of data we are collecting—such as adding, for instance, input fields on what kind of treatments are being used. In order to meet this need for flexible data gathering, CDC agreed that we needed to remove NHSN from the collection process, in order to streamline reporting.

https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2020/07/15/prepared-remarks-from-hhs-media-call-cdc-director-redfield-cio-arrieta-covid-19-data-collection.html

[midnightpulp]

This isn't new.

================================================== ================

In April, HHS leaders, with input from CDC, created a new system, called HHS Protect, that allows us to combine data through systems like NHSN, as well as other public and private sources. The data reported from hospitals that went into HHS Protect either came through the NHSN, directly to HHS Protect from the states, or through a system called TeleTracking.

What we have now asked is that, going forward, states provide data from hospitals directly through the TeleTracking system or directly to the HHS Protect system.

First, this reduces the reporting burden—it reduces confusion and duplication of reporting. Streamlining reporting enables us to distribute scarce resources using the best possible data.

TeleTracking also provides rapid ways to update the type of data we are collecting—such as adding, for instance, input fields on what kind of treatments are being used. In order to meet this need for flexible data gathering, CDC agreed that we needed to remove NHSN from the collection process, in order to streamline reporting.

https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2020/07/15/prepared-remarks-from-hhs-media-call-cdc-director-redfield-cio-arrieta-covid-19-data-collection.html

But there's no transparent body acting as an intermediary anymore, posting data public we all have access to. Only those with "clearance" have access to the data now, including a private firm. This is bad because it locks out experts who aren't in the "inner circle" and who rely on the CDC data to study what is going on.

[ElNono]

It begins.

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BaselineBum

Considering the death/infection trend, they lose Florida easily if the actual numbers come out, IMO...

[ElNono]

Still showing for me

https://www.cdc.gov/nhsn/covid19/report-patient-impact.html#anchor_1587406850


"Updated July 14"

My understanding is that now data will go to DC, then DC will feed the CDC...

So that panel will likely receive updates again in the future, just not directly from hospitals, but with a previous stop through DC.

[ElNono]

If that is the case it's stupid. John Hopkins will still be available to the public so we aren't in the dark.

Sure, and one would hope the numbers don't start to diverge. If they do not, there's nothing to this.

[ElNono]

But there's no transparent body acting as an intermediary anymore, posting data public we all have access to. Only those with "clearance" have access to the data now, including a private firm. This is bad because it locks out experts who aren't in the "inner circle" and who rely on the CDC data to study what is going on.

Actually, last I read HHS Protect is run by Peter Thiel's Palantir... a well known Trump fan and donor...

[RandomGuy]

Florida and Georgia were supposed to be “inevitable”, what happened?

Florida Alone Just Exceeded the Entire U.K. in Confirmed Coronavirus Cases
https://www.newsweek.com/florida-alone-just-exceeded-entire-uk-confirmed-coronavirus-cases-1518094

Didn't age well did it?

[TSA]

Florida Alone Just Exceeded the Entire U.K. in Confirmed Coronavirus Cases
https://www.newsweek.com/florida-alone-just-exceeded-entire-uk-confirmed-coronavirus-cases-1518094

Stupid motherfucker.

Didn't age well did it?

Overlay the amount of testing per capita and then do deaths per capita.

:lol stupid motherfucker

[spurraider21]

Overlay the amount of testing per capita and then do deaths per capita.

:lol stupid motherfucker
UK has 187k tests per 1M population. Florida has 131k.

deaths are nowhere near, though

[DarrinS]

Florida Alone Just Exceeded the Entire U.K. in Confirmed Coronavirus Cases
https://www.newsweek.com/florida-alone-just-exceeded-entire-uk-confirmed-coronavirus-cases-1518094

Stupid motherfucker.

Didn't age well did it?


Can you use a larger font? Having trouble reading your post.

[ElNono]

Florida Alone Just Exceeded the Entire U.K. in Confirmed Coronavirus Cases
https://www.newsweek.com/florida-alone-just-exceeded-entire-uk-confirmed-coronavirus-cases-1518094

Stupid motherfucker.

Didn't age well did it?

oh look big letters and underline too... :lol

[midnightpulp]

Overlay the amount of testing per capita and then do deaths per capita.

:lol stupid motherfucker

Florida won't become the UK. We know that. Places like NY, UK, and dense population centers with mass transit and people packed into apartment buildings are where the disease thrives. But RandomGuy's point was correct. Florida was inevitable. They'll probably wind up around 500ish deaths per million after this wave, which places them in Italy territory.

[boutons_deux]

Riddled With Lies': Analysis Finds Fox News Covid-19 Coverage Featured Misinformation 253 Times in Just Five Days

The network, said an MMFA researcher,

"downplays the threat of the virus,

dismisses the recommendations of public health officials, and

misrepresents the scientific consensus on the disease."

from July 6 through 10, according to a national media watchdog group that documented at least

253 instances of the network's coverage

undermining science,

politicizing the pandemic,

emphasizing economic issues, and

promoting other lies or

problematic positions in those five days alone.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/07/16/riddled-lies-analysis-finds-fox-news-covid-19-coverage-featured-misinformation-253

[tholdren]

Florida won't become the UK. We know that. Places like NY, UK, and dense population centers with mass transit and people packed into apartment buildings are where the disease thrives. But RandomGuy's point was correct. Florida was inevitable. They'll probably wind up around 500ish deaths per million after this wave, which places them in Italy territory.

Ny did it to itself with the nursing home cuomo fail.

[tholdren]

Florida Alone Just Exceeded the Entire U.K. in Confirmed Coronavirus Cases
https://www.newsweek.com/florida-alone-just-exceeded-entire-uk-confirmed-coronavirus-cases-1518094

Stupid motherfucker.

Didn't age well did it?

and?

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/108828747_10223756251399568_7796627791005648106_n. jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=EcjfS4qDPKcAX93EiTy&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=52ca6deb7d81496bfd7c07a1f5813703&oe=5F37C28E

[ElNono]

Georgia governor sues to stop Atlanta mask mandate

Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp sued Thursday to stop Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms from mandating masks be worn in the city to prevent the spread of coronavirus.

The legal actions comes after prominent Democratic mayors in the state pledged to challenge an executive order by Kemp barring local mask mandates. Bottoms defiantly declared, “I am not afraid of the city being sued.”

Kemp made that a reality, writing on Twitter that his lawsuit "is on behalf of the Atlanta business owners and their hardworking employees who are struggling to survive during these difficult times."

"We will fight to stop these reckless actions and put people over pandemic politics," Kemp wrote.

On Wednesday, Kemp banned localities from ordering people to wear masks in public to stop the spread of coronavirus. Mayors across the state hit back at Kemp and accused him of playing politics during a pandemic.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/16/georgia-mayors-brian-kemp-face-masks-366497

[Will Hunting]

A senior living center my company manages just got all of its residents and employees tested and over half came back positive, almost all of which are asymptomatic, the others with minor symptoms they’ll recover from, and these are people in their mid to late 80s. That kind of stuff is what makes me think there’s been a lot more exposure than any of us realize.
For those who care or are interested - 6 of the residents who tested positive are now dead, and 3 more are on hospice. I was hopeful the virus has mutated, but I’m not convinced anymore.

None of the other senior care centers we own have had any COVID, but once COVID gets inside an assisted living facility or nursing home, it spreads like wildfire and there’s only so much that can be done to stop it.

[Will Hunting]

Worth noting also that the facility is now doing weekly testing of all residents and employees, but has yet to get results back for the last two weeks of tests, which is unfuckingbelievable.

Our healthcare system was grossly unprepared for this several months ago and still doesn’t have the necessary resources to address it. This has been a problem for senior care centers across the country, even when they have positive COVID cases and need to be able to promptly get test results back to contact trace, there have been several week wait times for results.

[TSA]

It begins.

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BaselineBum

Public health specialists and former health officials acknowledged that the CDC's data reporting infrastructure was limited, and said it needs to be overhauled to meet the demands of the Covid-19 pandemic. However, they expressed concern in interviews with CNBC that the change could lead to less transparent data.

When reached for comment Thursday by CNBC, HHS spokesman Michael Caputo said in a statement that the CDC was directed to make the data available again. In the future, he said, HHS will provide "more powerful insights."

"Yes, HHS is committed to being transparent with the American public about the information it is collecting on the coronavirus," he said. "Therefore, HHS has directed CDC to re-establish the coronavirus dashboards it withdrew from the public on Wednesday."

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/07/16/us-coronavirus-data-has-already-disappeared-after-trump-administration-shifted-control-from-cdc-to-hhs.html?__twitter_impression=true

[TSA]

Hopefully it gets routed to both at the same time. If it has go though the HHS channel before JHU, then...

https://mobile.twitter.com/JohnsHopkins/status/1283456850193719303

[Winehole23]

Testing and PPE were identified as national priorities four months ago.

Where are on that?

1284036002475053057

[boutons_deux]

Brace yourself for the latest COVID-19 predictions.

You're not going to like them

Just two weeks ago, when Dr. Anthony Fauci predicted that

the United States could see 100,000 cases of COVID-19 in a day (https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/30/u-s-could-see-100000-new-covid-19-cases-per-day-fauci-says/), it seemed like a nightmare scenario

Tuesday was the second day the nation logged over 70,000 cases in a day.

It was also the first time the United States recorded over 1,000 deaths from COVID-19 since June 9.

Fauci’s prediction that was disturbing at the start of the month,

looks like it could end up undershooting the real situation as badly as Pence did.

The reasons for that are simple enough:

We have governors who are willing to kill their people to score political points (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/7/16/1961197/-Gov-Brian-Kemp-s-no-mask-order-isn-t-coming-from-ignorance-it-s-an-act-of-deliberate-vengeance),

we have a government determined to hide the truth of what’s happening (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/7/16/1961226/-Hospitals-are-still-sending-in-data-on-COVID-19-but-it-s-no-longer-visible-outside-the-White-House), and

we have people who are intentionally destroying their communities (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/utah-meeting-masks-cancelled-when-residents-without-masks-pack-room-n1234017) to own … whoever is left to care.

And the result is that instead of 100,000 cases a day,

the United States could be facing a million cases a day.

Herd immunity, here we come … with half a million dead in tow.

no other nation has so thoroughly discarded both science and reason in

a process of self-destruction that seems purposeful in its malevolence.

this is “a weaponized virus.” It is.

Americans have weaponized it to kill other Americans.

There remains some hope, because not every governor is Ron DeSantis (Florida) or Brian Kemp (Georgia).

Even the most ardent Republican politicians are going to have a hard time throwing their citizens into mass graves to please a man who will be out of office in January.

there are now almost 2 million confirmed active cases of COVID-19 in the United States.

That number is probably something closer to 20 million,

They’re already too late to keep the total number of dead from reaching something between 300,000 and 400,000.

The always optimistic IHME model is now projecting 224,000 by November 1 (https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america). That’s just … where we are.

Daily Beast (https://www.thedailybeast.com/america-is-on-track-for-a-million-coronavirus-cases-a-day-and-at-least-800000-deaths-by-the-end-of-2020) is currently projecting that before the end of the year, half of all Americans could have been infected by COVID-19 and 800,000 could die.

Those are the kinds of numbers that wouldn’t just overrun the healthcare system,

they would overrun a lot of systems.

If 800,000 die from COVID-19, they won’t die alone.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1961288

[RandomGuy]

oh look big letters and underline too... :lol

I need reading glasses these days. :D

[RandomGuy]

https://mobile.twitter.com/JohnsHopkins/status/1283456850193719303

White House: Science shouldn't 'stand in the way' of school openings

:lol

You have your marching orders now, bootlick. Trying to convince people with science is passe, so you can stop trying to post studies about how safe children 10 and under are, while ignoring the risks to teenagers.

[RandomGuy]

Overlay the amount of testing per capita and then do deaths per capita.

:lol stupid motherfucker

Dude, you need to start a goal post moving company. Hire some guys. Put that expertise to work. :lol

Got any other new excuses?