Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

[picnroll]

But your personal stance doesn't equate to the board average. If you're going to intervene with a defense for "them", you'll need to reference "them" not "you".

But you're suspect as well.

The fact you cannot list anything positive from the administration basically illustrates my point.
I won’t mince words on what Trump’s actions have been and are. Every calculation, every action is aim to protect himself from responsibility and accountability and to improve his chances of re-election. Every thought begins and ends with what’s in it for me. There is nothing else to the man, his entire life he has been as a corrupt opportunist and self promoter. The people who follow him are the rich to gain wealth and power and the cult of bigots and idiots.

[ChumpDumper]

It would be nice if we could keep one thread actually about the coronavirus and not you and boutons TDS repetitive bullshit. There are plenty of other threads going for you to shit on Trump.I'm only repeating this question because none of you apologists has even tried to answer it.

I'm gonna keep reminding you of the backflips you are doing for Trump for no reason other than your own egos.

[CosmicCowboy]

I'm not doing backflips. Trump fucked up. He thought we were gonna slide by pretty much unscathed like we did with SARS. It didnt happen.

[CosmicCowboy]

The countries that got hit hardest by SARS were the most prepared this time.

[ElNono]

I actually agree with Tribe. If our leadership was too inept to do the things we needed for an eventual re-opening of the economy, then Shutdown 2020 was pointless and we may as well go through with herd immunity.

Are you aware how herd immunity works though? Herd immunity requires at least 50%+ of the population to have become infected and recovered in order to get to some level of normalcy.

Which implicitly means we need massive testing in place. We're still far from being aware what percentage of our population has been or is infected.

Even "herd immunity" requires a plan, and lots of testing, if that's your strategy. Reopening and wishing things away is not a plan.

[ChumpDumper]

Are you aware how herd immunity works though? Herd immunity requires at least 50%+ of the population to have become infected and recovered in order to get to some level of normalcy.
T
Which implicitly means we need massive testing in place. We're still far from being aware what percentage of our population has been or is infected.

Even "herd immunity" requires a plan, and lots of testing, if that's your strategy. Reopening and wishing things away is not a plan.From hearing Fauci soft pedal it, it looks like the plan is to let people die the way they are now until the fall when testing might be adequate.

[Blake]

Of course if Trump would have just ramped up testing and contact tracing early on in January like South Korea did he'd have been a shoo-in for re-election.

His approval rating would be sky high

[ElNono]

Of course if Trump would have just ramped up testing and contact tracing early on in January like South Korea did he'd have been a shoo-in for re-election.

Just unfortunate that Jared's father in law didn't think of this... but them dem breaks...

[ChumpDumper]

His approval rating would be sky highShit, if he had just given a quarter of a mea culpa and gotten on with saving lives without all the grievances he'd be as popular as Cuomo.

[DMC]

I won’t mince words on what Trump’s actions have been and are. Every calculation, every action is aim to protect himself from responsibility and accountability and to improve his chances of re-election. Every thought begins and ends with what’s in it for me. There is nothing else to the man, his entire life he has been as a corrupt opportunist and self promoter. The people who follow him are the rich to gain wealth and power and the cult of bigots and idiots.

Of course. If you think a person who has his wealth and background who can win that position through negative campaigning and promising things to niche audiences might be ethical or moral, you're naive. Bernie purports to be concerned about the nation, but he's never going to be the nominee. Instead, Biden who's just another corporate shill is going to be your other choice.

This has been the case for a long long time. Americans then have to look at themselves as ask what's important to them. Who puts these people there? Trump didn't sneak in.

[DMC]

Shit, if he had just given a quarter of a mea culpa and gotten on with saving lives without all the grievances he'd be as popular as Cuomo.

Who has lost 20K lives so far. So popularity is about a mea culpa.

[picnroll]

The countries that got hit hardest by SARS were the most prepared this time.

If you give Trump a pass on all past mistakes are you continuing to give him the mistakes he continues to make like calling states to liberate after making opening up the states the governors’ responsibility or throwing all the responsibility for testing on the governors? Some western countries have made mistake, hardly any to the degree at the central government level as Trump. Most have gotten their act together, not Trump, he has no act except appointing unqualified people, firing those who point out his errors and deferring blame. That is part of the coronavirus discussion.

[Blake]

Who has lost 20K lives so far. So popularity is about a mea culpa.

Does Trump not getting any blame for those lives lost or just Cuomo

[ChumpDumper]

Who has lost 20K lives so far. So popularity is about a mea culpa.In part. It's what's important to Trump after all. Not leadership or responsibility.

[ChumpDumper]

Does Trump not getting any blame for those lives lost or just CuomoTrump gets a pass from DMC. Every time.

[picnroll]

Does Trump not getting any blame for those lives lost or just Cuomo

Cuomo has admitted making mistakes, that actions could have been taken earlier. Has Trump Said he made any mistakes or was everything 10 out of 10 for him? Cuomo also said he has to deal as best as he can with where they are now. What has Trump said he has to do?

[ducks]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1251958283503624192?s=20

[CosmicCowboy]

If you give Trump a pass on all past mistakes are you continuing to give him the mistakes he continues to make like calling states to liberate after making opening up the states the governors’ responsibility or throwing all the responsibility for testing on the governors? Some western countries have made mistake, hardly any to the degree at the central government level as Trump. Most have gotten their act together, not Trump, he has no act except appointing unqualified people, firing those who point out his errors and deferring blame. That is part of the coronavirus discussion.

I dont give Trump a pass on anything. He is an embarrassment. At the same time, blaming all the deaths on him is just stupid. We were unprepared now and we were unprepared before Trump was elected. We allowed ourselves to get in the trap of necessary protective gear and drugs being manufactured in China who hogged the supplies when the rest of the world needed them. Blaming Trump is just as stupid as blaming Pelosi because neither one could shit the gear we needed. This will turn out to be like our reaction to 9/11. In a year we will be overreacting on the side of covid safety shutting that barn door after the covid horse got out.

[TSA]

Does Trump not getting any blame for those lives lost or just Cuomo

de Blasio deserves the most

https://mobile.twitter.com/BilldeBlasio/status/1234648718714036229

[ChumpDumper]

de Blasio deserves the most

https://mobile.twitter.com/BilldeBlasio/status/1234648718714036229He certainly deserves blame.

Does Trump deserve any?

Yes or no.

[Blake]

de Blasio deserves the most

https://mobile.twitter.com/BilldeBlasio/status/1234648718714036229

You guys still don't want to give Trump any blame. It's insane

[DMC]

In part. It's what's important to Trump after all. Not leadership or responsibility.

Obviously not for Cuomo's supporters either.

[ChumpDumper]

You guys still don't want to give Trump any blame. It's insaneTheir egos depend on Trump's being a more-or-less perfect president. Anything less and their egos are destroyed.

It's OK to admit Trump fucked up. Play time is over.

[DMC]

I dont give Trump a pass on anything. He is an embarrassment. At the same time, blaming all the deaths on him is just stupid. We were unprepared now and we were unprepared before Trump was elected. We allowed ourselves to get in the trap of necessary protective gear and drugs being manufactured in China who hogged the supplies when the rest of the world needed them. Blaming Trump is just as stupid as blaming Pelosi because neither one could shit the gear we needed. This will turn out to be like our reaction to 9/11. In a year we will be overreacting on the side of covid safety shutting that barn door after the covid horse got out.
We'll have hundreds of millions of deteriorating masks until such time as the funding gets removed to study the effects of cow farts.

On the brighter side, the Earth is likely breathing off the ventilator right now.

[ChumpDumper]

Obviously not for Cuomo's supporters either.Cuomo has assumed both. Moreso than Trump, who explicitly said he's not responsible for anything. Is that your idea of leadership, DMC?

[TSA]

You guys still don't want to give Trump any blame. It's insane

Trump and Cuomo can both be blamed for lives lost in New York, but de Blasio deserves the most blame.

[CosmicCowboy]

Trump definitely deserves blame, if for nothing else than being a stupid pompous ass. He doesnt deserve all the blame for the virus however. Yeah, if we had shut down sooner, if the CDC hadn't fucked up the reagent on their tests, if, if, if....

[ChumpDumper]

Trump and Cuomo can both be blamed for lives lost in New York, but de Blasio deserves the most blame.Post a sentence only for Trump without trying to spread it around.

I dare you.

[DMC]

Cuomo has assumed both. Moreso than Trump, who explicitly said he's not responsible for anything. Is that your idea of leadership, DMC?

Leadership is guiding the country through a storm, not salving the critics with mea culpas for forum talking points.

[Blake]

Trump and Cuomo can both be blamed for lives lost in New York, but de Blasio deserves the most blame.

Was that so hard? Now why does de Blasio deserve most of the blame?

[DMC]

Was that so hard? Now why does de Blasio deserve most of the blame?

It's his fucking city.

[ChumpDumper]

Leadership is guiding the country through a storm, not salving the critics with mea culpas for forum talking points.So you agree his whining about not being responsible for anything is definitely NOT leadership.:tu

[ChumpDumper]

It's his fucking city.It's Don's fucking country. Or are we back to his not being responsible for anything, right?:lol

[Blake]

Trump definitely deserves blame, if for nothing else than being a stupid pompous ass. He doesnt deserve all the blame for the virus however. Yeah, if we had shut down sooner, if the CDC hadn't fucked up the reagent on their tests, if, if, if....

Giving enough of a pass to vote for stupid pompous ass again, huh

[Blake]

It's his fucking city.

So following that logic, all the mayors in the country deserve most of the blame?

[CosmicCowboy]

Giving enough of a pass to vote for stupid pompous ass again, huh

I didnt vote for him in 2016 and have no intention of voting for him in 2020. Doesnt mean I'm all in on BunkerBiden though.

[DMC]

I didnt vote for him in 2016 and have no intention of voting for him in 2020. Doesnt mean I'm all in on BunkerBiden though.

If you're not dyed in the wool for one team or the other, you're a poser here. Don't try to find common ground with a proselytizer.

[Blake]

If you're not dyed in the wool for one team or the other, you're a poser here. Don't try to find common ground with a proselytizer.

DMC posing that he's not on Team Trump/Republican

[DMC]

DMC posing that he's not on Team Trump/Republican

Didn't vote in the previous election but you just proved my point.

[CosmicCowboy]

Our politics are so fucked up now I'm not sure the country will ever be OK again. Im sick of both "sides". Its just a fucking power game with them. The concept of "citizen servant" has been dead for a long time. At this time I'm just focusing my energy on making sure my family is OK and just rolling with the waves.

[TSA]

Was that so hard? Now why does de Blasio deserve most of the blame?

“Dr. Frieden said that if the state and city had adopted widespread social-distancing measures a week or two earlier, including closing schools, stores and restaurants, then the estimated death toll from the outbreak might have been reduced by 50 to 80 percent.

But New York mandated those measures after localities in states including California and Washington had done so.

San Francisco, for example, ordered schools closed on March 12 when that city had 18 confirmed cases; Ohio also ordered its schools closed on the same day, with five confirmed cases. Mr. de Blasio ordered schools in New York to close three days later when the city had 329 cases.”

“ Then seven Bay Area counties imposed stay-at-home rules on March 17. Two days later, the entire state of California ordered the same. New York State’s stay-at-home order came on the 20th, and went into effect on March 22.

“New York City as a whole was late in social measures,” said Isaac B. Weisfuse, a former New York City deputy health commissioner. “Any after-action review of the pandemic in New York City will focus on that issue. It has become the major issue in the transmission of the virus.”

“By March 5, Mr. de Blasio seemed to acknowledge the virus had spread beyond control. “You have to assume it could be anywhere in the city,” he said.

Still, not wanting to cause undue alarm, he told New Yorkers to go on with their normal lives, which left many confused about the danger they faced.

The city’s health commissioner, Dr. Oxiris Barbot, had sought to reassure commuters, in early February, that “this is not something that you’re going to contract in the subway or on the bus.” The mayor reiterated the point several times in early March.

But there seemed to be little basis for that confidence.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/08/nyregion/new-york-coronavirus-response-delays.html

[DMC]

“Dr. Frieden said that if the state and city had adopted widespread social-distancing measures a week or two earlier, including closing schools, stores and restaurants, then the estimated death toll from the outbreak might have been reduced by 50 to 80 percent.

But New York mandated those measures after localities in states including California and Washington had done so.

San Francisco, for example, ordered schools closed on March 12 when that city had 18 confirmed cases; Ohio also ordered its schools closed on the same day, with five confirmed cases. Mr. de Blasio ordered schools in New York to close three days later when the city had 329 cases.”

“ Then seven Bay Area counties imposed stay-at-home rules on March 17. Two days later, the entire state of California ordered the same. New York State’s stay-at-home order came on the 20th, and went into effect on March 22.

“New York City as a whole was late in social measures,” said Isaac B. Weisfuse, a former New York City deputy health commissioner. “Any after-action review of the pandemic in New York City will focus on that issue. It has become the major issue in the transmission of the virus.”

“By March 5, Mr. de Blasio seemed to acknowledge the virus had spread beyond control. “You have to assume it could be anywhere in the city,” he said.

Still, not wanting to cause undue alarm, he told New Yorkers to go on with their normal lives, which left many confused about the danger they faced.

The city’s health commissioner, Dr. Oxiris Barbot, had sought to reassure commuters, in early February, that “this is not something that you’re going to contract in the subway or on the bus.” The mayor reiterated the point several times in early March.

But there seemed to be little basis for that confidence.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/08/nyregion/new-york-coronavirus-response-delays.html

But he's wearing a blue jersey, so it's a blocking foul, not a charge.

[TSA]

“A 39-year-old woman took Flight 701 from Doha, Qatar, to John F. Kennedy International Airport in late February, the final leg of her trip home to New York City from Iran.

A week later, on March 1, she tested positive for the coronavirus, the first confirmed case in New York City of an outbreak that had already devastated China and parts of Europe. The next day, Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo, appearing with Mayor Bill de Blasio at a news conference, promised that health investigators would track down every person on the woman’s flight. But no one did.”

Wonder how many lives this cost.

[ChumpDumper]

But he's wearing a blue jersey, so it's a blocking foul, not a charge.No, he's shitty mayor.

You won't hold Trump responsible for anything.

[ChumpDumper]

“A 39-year-old woman took Flight 701 from Doha, Qatar, to John F. Kennedy International Airport in late February, the final leg of her trip home to New York City from Iran.

A week later, on March 1, she tested positive for the coronavirus, the first confirmed case in New York City of an outbreak that had already devastated China and parts of Europe. The next day, Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo, appearing with Mayor Bill de Blasio at a news conference, promised that health investigators would track down every person on the woman’s flight. But no one did.”

Wonder how many lives this cost.Trump didn't stop that with his travel ban?

Wonder how many lives that cost.

[CosmicCowboy]

Trump didn't stop that with his travel ban?

Wonder how many lives that cost.

Classic TDS.

[ChumpDumper]

Classic TDS.Classic apologist.

[Spurs Homer]

I won’t mince words on what Trump’s actions have been and are. Every calculation, every action is aim to protect himself from responsibility and accountability and to improve his chances of re-election. Every thought begins and ends with what’s in it for me. There is nothing else to the man, his entire life he has been as a corrupt opportunist and self promoter. The people who follow him are the rich to gain wealth and power and the cult of bigots and idiots.


boiled down- this is pretty spot on

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1251989658273296384?s=19

weird

[TSA]

https://mobile.twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1251996642640879616

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1251989658273296384?s=19

weirdIt is weird that upstate NY and towns in Mississippi and Kentucky are being treated like they're under the same local government.

[ChumpDumper]

https://mobile.twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1251996642640879616How does the paper say the contact tracing affects the numbers?

[Winehole23]

Trump gets a pass from DMC. Every time.DMC also steadfastly refuses to say what he likes about Trump, even after criticizing others for failing to give DJT credit for all the positive things he's done like...DMC can't or won't say.

[CosmicCowboy]

Classic apologist.

I'm not apologizing for trumps stupidity at all, but simple minds blaming him for everything are even stupider than he is.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm not apologizing for trumps stupidity at all, but simple minds blaming him for everything are even stupider than he is.I'm not blaming him for everything. TSA was playing what if so I did too.

[Blake]

Didn't vote in the previous election but you just proved my point.

Here and now you're showing what team jersey you're wearing. I'm proving you're a hypocrite that pretends to be neutral.

[Chris]

It is weird that upstate NY and towns in Mississippi and Kentucky are being treated like they're under the same local government.

Muslims allowed to assemble and worship, but not Christians.

Blue state...

Weird.

[ducks]

Chump
Listen to the video
This is a leader
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1251958283503624192?s=20

Oh that is a leader biden even after 2 months said trump was right on China

[ChumpDumper]

Muslims allowed to assemble and worship, but not Christians.

Blue state...

Weird.The christians were in red states, Qhris.

[GAustex]

Who is that hot reporter in back throwing softballs up there for the Orangeman?

[Reck]

Why is Chris so bothered by this? It’s not like he’s a Christian or anything. An atheist has more conviction than Christbot.

[DMC]

DMC also steadfastly refuses to say what he likes about Trump, even after criticizing others for failing to give DJT credit for all the positive things he's done like...DMC can't or won't say.

I didn't vote for Trump and I don't care much for him, but I do get a chuckle at how he gets your goat every fuckin' time and how he left that swamp thing dead in her tracks.

[DMC]

Who is that hot reporter in back throwing softballs up there for the Orangeman?

Jim Acosta.

[DMC]

It's Don's fucking country. Or are we back to his not being responsible for anything, right?:lol

:lol pretending the POTUS runs the states instead of the federal government.

Civil war never happened.

[GAustex]

Jim Acosta.
No goofus
The gal standing in back
She's got it going

[ChumpDumper]

:lol pretending the POTUS runs the states instead of the federal government.

Civil war never happened.:lol pretending the POTUS has no effect on US pandemic response.

History never happened.

[Reck]

:lol pretending the POTUS runs the states instead of the federal government.

Civil war never happened.

He pretended to anyways.

All that notwithstanding, Trump is still responsible for what happens on his watch. Applies even more so during a crisis such as a pandemic.

[DMC]

He pretended to anyways.

All that notwithstanding, Trump is still responsible for what happens on his watch. Applies even more so during a crisis such as a pandemic.

Not at the state level. He doesn't have authority to remove elected officials at state level, they don't serve at the pleasure of the POTUS.

[MultiTroll]

Chump
Listen to the video
This is a leader
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1251958283503624192?s=20

Oh that is a leader biden even after 2 months said trump was right on China
Can we send Trump a cookie for suspending travel of Chinese Nationals from China?
He's really, really proud of himself for that one.

[ChumpDumper]

Can we send Trump a cookie for suspending travel of Chinese Nationals from China?
He's really, really proud of himself for that one.He really withered at the questioning of Paula Reid after trying to pull that shit with the video.

[Chris]

The christians were in red states, Qhris.

wrong

[ChumpDumper]

wrong

Parishioners who attended a drive-in service at Temple Baptist Church in Mississippi were fined $500 each by police for violating ‘social distancing’ orders.

20 police cars swarmed King James Bible Baptist Church in Mississippi and pastor Charles Hamilton Jr., was told by a cop that his rights were suspended.

A Kentucky church parking lot was littered with nails on Easter Sunday and police officers harassed churchgoers by recording their license plates and leaving notes on their cars.

Mississippi and Kentucky are red states.

[rmt]

We're not like Germany. We're a nation of spoiled children who put our selfish, short term interests above a greater goal.

I don't know if I'd want to be using Germany with its history as any role model. No thanks - I'll pass - I'll gladly take the good ole USA with all its terrible perceived faults.

[midnightpulp]

https://mobile.twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1251996642640879616

This guy is been grasping at a shit load of straws over this pandemic. Not a peer reviewed paper. Germany isn't the US, so even if this is true, we can't expect the same/similar results in the US. Different environmental variables, from population density, weather, average health of citizens, average age, how people comply with "moderate social distancing," and etc.

The safe bet is still stay-at-home, because that at least guarantees moderate social distancing. And personally, I think stay-at-home works. We'll return to Sweden vs. California. As I said before, California has 4x pop, 5x population density, more international travel, but a 5x better death rate than Sweden. Difference? One region is basically locked down while the other is more laxed. Norway/Denmark (same pop as Sweden with same climate) is also outperforming Sweden by a big margin.

[midnightpulp]

I don't know if I'd want to be using Germany with its history as any role model. No thanks - I'll pass.

Germany 70 years ago is the Germany of today?

Think before you type.

[Reck]

I don't know if I'd want to be using Germany with its history as any role model. No thanks - I'll pass.

umm ok.

Guess you don’t adapt to the believe that children aren’t responsible for their father’s sins.

[boutons_deux]

In rare but growing number of cases, children hospitalized with coronavirus in Massachusetts

Boston Children’s Hospital had seven patients admitted with confirmed or suspected cases of coronavirus,

including three in the intensive care unit.

The number of COVID-19-positive admissions has since climbed to 13, with three in the ICU as of Sunday.

In a pandemic perceived as largely sparing the very young from serious illness,

a growing number of children infected with COVID-19 in Massachusetts have become so severely ill that

they have needed hospitalization

— sometimes even ventilators.

-- email from Boston Globe

[ChumpDumper]

I don't know if I'd want to be using Germany with its history as any role model. No thanks - I'll pass - I'll gladly take the good ole USA with all its terrible perceived faults.Every citizen over 18 in Germany has been able to vote since 1949, for example.

[Chris]

Parishioners who attended a drive-in service at Temple Baptist Church in Mississippi were fined $500 each by police for violating ‘social distancing’ orders.

20 police cars swarmed King James Bible Baptist Church in Mississippi and pastor Charles Hamilton Jr., was told by a cop that his rights were suspended.

A Kentucky church parking lot was littered with nails on Easter Sunday and police officers harassed churchgoers by recording their license plates and leaving notes on their cars.

Mississippi and Kentucky are red states.

nope in NY too

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/coronavirus-church-pastor-nyc-de-blasio-mayor-threat.amp?espv=1

[boutons_deux]

Trash still refuses to open ACA signups.

First, the coronavirus pandemic took their jobs.

Then, it wiped out their health insurance.

In a nation where most health coverage is hinged to employment, the economy’s vanishing jobs are wiping out insurance in the midst of a pandemic.

About 22 million workers have filed unemployment claims since mid-March, according to the most recent federal figures (https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/04/16/unemployment-claims-coronavirus/?tid=lk_inline_manual_8&itid=lk_inline_manual_8), and that includes only the people who have gotten through to clogged state workforce offices.

The latest census data show that job-based coverage accounted for 55 percent of Americans’ health insurance,

though the kinds of work disappearing the most — restaurant jobs and others in the service industry — have always been less likely to offer health benefits.

estimates (https://www.epi.org/blog/9-2-million-workers-likely-lost-their-employer-provided-health-insurance-in-the-past-four-weeks/) that 9.2 million U.S. residents were at high risk of having lost coverage during the past four weeks.

perhaps 12 million to 35 million people will lose job-based insurance because of the pandemic, on top of the 27.5 million who were uninsured before the virus arrived.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/first-the-coronavirus-pandemic-took-their-jobs-then-it-wiped-out-their-health-insurance/2020/04/18/1c2cb5bc-7d7c-11ea-8013-1b6da0e4a2b7_story.html?cv-campaign=4fda08e2fbca0387b958bb44bf5cc2b6&utm_campaign=wp_to_your_health&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_tyh (https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/first-the-coronavirus-pandemic-took-their-jobs-then-it-wiped-out-their-health-insurance/2020/04/18/1c2cb5bc-7d7c-11ea-8013-1b6da0e4a2b7_story.html?cv-campaign=4fda08e2fbca0387b958bb44bf5cc2b6&utm_campaign=wp_to_your_health&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_tyh)

Capitalism and for-profit health care fucking suck.

[midnightpulp]

nope in NY too

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/coronavirus-church-pastor-nyc-de-blasio-mayor-threat.amp?espv=1

Jesus was against churches anyway, so don't see why this is a problem?


“And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.



Sounds pretty socially distant to me :tu

[ChumpDumper]

nope in NY too

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/coronavirus-church-pastor-nyc-de-blasio-mayor-threat.amp?espv=1So, red states too.

And Syracuse <> NYC.

[Chris]

Jesus was against churches anyway, so don't see why this is a problem?



Sounds pretty socially distant to me :tu

Not everyone worships that way. Some people don't have family members so the Church and the pastor is all they have.

Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word.
Ephesians 5:25-26 | NIV

Jesus was not against the chirch. but thanks for the lol :lol

[Chris]

For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them.”
Matthew 18:20 | NIV

[Chris]

Is anyone among you sick? Let them call the elders of the church to pray over them and anoint them with oil in the name of the Lord. And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well; the Lord will raise them up. If they have sinned, they will be forgiven.
James 5:14-15 | NIV

[Chris]

And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.
Matthew 16:18 | NIV

[Blake]

Not at the state level. He doesn't have authority to remove elected officials at state level, they don't serve at the pleasure of the POTUS.

It's pretty sad though when he throws a tantrum directed at cities and states, threatening to block federal funding if they don't do what he commands........ But then completely backs away when it's time to roll up his sleeves and slap on a mask

[Blake]

Is anyone among you sick? Let them call the elders of the church to pray over them and anoint them with oil in the name of the Lord. And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well; the Lord will raise them up. If they have sinned, they will be forgiven.
James 5:14-15 | NIV

Oh good no need for chloronique

[Blake]

Parishioners who attended a drive-in service at Temple Baptist Church in Mississippi were fined $500 each by police for violating ‘social distancing’ orders.

20 police cars swarmed King James Bible Baptist Church in Mississippi and pastor Charles Hamilton Jr., was told by a cop that his rights were suspended.

A Kentucky church parking lot was littered with nails on Easter Sunday and police officers harassed churchgoers by recording their license plates and leaving notes on their cars.

Mississippi and Kentucky are red states.

Chris wrong again. Just another day

[Chris]

Chris wrong again. Just another day

nah, it's happening in NY dim

[monosylab1k]

Not everyone worships that way. Some people don't have family members so the Church and the pastor is all they have.

Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word.
Ephesians 5:25-26 | NIV

Jesus was not against the chirch. but thanks for the lol :lol

“And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.”

-Matthew 6:5,6

[weebo]

The countries that got hit hardest by SARS were the most prepared this time.

:lol

[TDMVPDPOY]

whoever wants 6trillion compensation from china, good luck getting to pay

whoever wants to send the team in to investigate, yeh good luck with that

imo...the west needs to be less reliant on china for supplying whatever crap, should bring manufacturing back home or somewhere cheaper labour costs

[ducks]

“On February 19th there was a Democratic Debate, in Las Vegas. Three words weren’t said: Virus, CoronaVirus, or COVID19. NEVER came up

[ducks]

whoever wants 6trillion compensation from china, good luck getting to pay

whoever wants to send the team in to investigate, yeh good luck with that

imo...the west needs to be less reliant on china for supplying whatever crap, should bring manufacturing back home or somewhere cheaper labour costs

Just wipe the debt the USA owes them is fine with me

[ChumpDumper]

“On February 19th there was a Democratic Debate, in Las Vegas. Three words weren’t said: Virus, CoronaVirus, or COVID19. NEVER came upFeb. 23: “We have it very much under control in this country.” — Trump in speaking to reporters.

Feb. 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!” — Trump in a tweet.

Feb. 26: “So we’re at the low level. As they get better, we take them off the list, so that we’re going to be pretty soon at only five people. And we could be at just one or two people over the next short period of time. So we’ve had very good luck.” — Trump at a White House briefing.

Feb. 26: “And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done.” — Trump at a press conference.

Feb. 26: “I think every aspect of our society should be prepared. I don’t think it’s going to come to that, especially with the fact that we’re going down, not up. We’re going very substantially down, not up.” — Trump at a press conference, when asked if “U.S. schools should be preparing for a coronavirus spreading.”

Feb. 27: “It’s going to disappear. One day — it’s like a miracle — it will disappear.” — Trump at a White House meeting with African American leaders.

[apalisoc_9]

Chris is such a liar :lol

[Chad.]

https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1251989658273296384?s=19

weird

yep, they have the Islamophobia card at the ready. Funny how Ramadan starts this week. Unlike Easter, we haven't heard a peep from anybody worrying about all the social gatherings that are bound to take place at the numerous mosques around the country.

[DMC]

It's pretty sad though when he throws a tantrum directed at cities and states, threatening to block federal funding if they don't do what he commands........ But then completely backs away when it's time to roll up his sleeves and slap on a mask
First you make an ignorant comment then you cover with a red herring.

On one hand, the left decries his comments about being in charge of states (rightfully so). On the other, you want to make him responsible for state decisions (He's not).

Make up your mind. Did you skip government class?

[pgardn]

yep, they have the Islamophobia card at the ready. Funny how Ramadan starts this week. Unlike Easter, we haven't heard a peep from anybody worrying about all the social gatherings that are bound to take place at the numerous mosques around the country.

Let em pack it in like Christians.
Good deal, eh?

[ducks]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1252046878314770432?s=20

A leader

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1252046878314770432?s=20

A leaderDamn, five minutes?

Dude's really trying.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/JoeySalads/status/1251892193691725828?s=20

damn :lol

[Reck]

No, he does not get bodied. Lol Chrisbot

Trump banned a few dozen foreign nationals. He did not stop regular Americans from coming in out out.

[Blake]

First you make an ignorant comment then you cover with a red herring.

On one hand, the left decries his comments about being in charge of states (rightfully so). On the other, you want to make him responsible for state decisions (He's not).

Make up your mind. Did you skip government class?

Keep pretending you're not on Team Trump :tu

[Chris]

No, he does not get bodied. Lol Chrisbot

Trump banned a few dozen foreign nationals. He did not stop regular Americans from coming in out out.

your boy got eviscerated lmao

[Reck]

Lol my boy

[Thread]

https://twitter.com/JoeySalads/status/1251892193691725828?s=20

damn :lol

By God, he did clean the plow.

Great find, Chris.

Chris

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/SethAMandel/status/1251976531561394177?s=19

[boutons_deux]

As always, one of the very best TV journalists DESTROYS you fucking rightwing, gullible IDIOTS and the ASSHOLES lying to you (for profit).

Rush L to his millions of listeners:

"covid-19 is the 19th coronavirus!" WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRFbwjwQ4VE&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRFbwjwQ4VE&feature=youtu.be)

and whatever happened to the rifles in rifle racks in truck's rear windows? :lol

[boutons_deux]

Trump accused of "knowingly" spreading coronavirus to Central America through deportation

At least 89 immigrants in detention have tested positive for COVID-19 so far, as well as 21 ICE employees

the Guatemalan health minister said an estimated 75% (https://abcnews.go.com/International/75-migrants-deported-guatemala-single-flight-tested-positive/story?id=70156471) of the people on one deportation flight from the U.S. later tested positive for the virus.

Health Minister Hugo Monroy's claim raised fears that

the U.S. is willfully sending sick people back to the countries they left,

creating conditions for larger outbreaks in countries including Guatemala, El Salvador, and Honduras.

"If Monroy is correct, it could mean dozens of Guatemala's cases are tied to U.S. deportations,"

https://www.salon.com/2020/04/19/trump-accused-of-knowingly-spreading-coronavirus-to-central-america-through-deportation_partner/ (https://www.salon.com/2020/04/19/trump-accused-of-knowingly-spreading-coronavirus-to-central-america-through-deportation_partner/)

[Winehole23]

How to balance livelihood and public health if you're a US state governor?

There's a lot to learn from other countries

Tl;dr


we’ve interviewed experts and frontline officials from Italy, Germany, Spain, Singapore, Taiwan and South Korea. While they differ on the details, their views formed a startlingly united consensus of what’s needed:

Massive, ongoing testing to detect where the disease is spreading,

a real-time ability to trace contacts of those infected and isolate them,

a willingness of people to wear masks in crowded public spaces,

reserves of personal protective equipment (PPE) and other equipment for hospital workers to handle any surge in cases,

and reliable, easily administered blood tests to find out the number of people who have been infected. If they work well, such tests could eventually be used to identify people with immunity who could work at higher-risk jobs

https://www.propublica.org/article/coronavirus-advice-from-abroad-7-lessons-americas-governors-should-not-ignore-as-they-reopen-their-economies#944302

[Winehole23]

Harvard study: on/off social distancing may be needed into 2022.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-04-on-off-social-distancing-harvard.amp

[boutons_deux]

Harvard study: on/off social distancing may be needed into 2022.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-04-on-off-social-distancing-harvard.amp

"to prevent hospitals from being overwhelmed"

the gullible anti-social-distance protesters don't give the tiniest shit about hospitals, showing any concern for other people is an attack on freedumb, empathy for others is socialism.

Let's see Fox News' crews, Limbaugh, red state politicians, etc go into the streets and crowds without masks to protest the shutdown.

[picnroll]

Powerful photos show healthcare workers quietly standing up to lockdown protesters in Denver

https://www.insider.com/photos-video-denver-health-workers-stand-up-to-lockdown-protesters-2020-4

American version of Tienemen Square. Chinese stood against oppression. Healthcare workers stand to save their and others lifes.

[midnightpulp]

Powerful photos show healthcare workers quietly standing up to lockdown protesters in Denver

https://www.insider.com/photos-video-denver-health-workers-stand-up-to-lockdown-protesters-2020-4

American version of Tienemen Square. Chinese stood against oppression. Healthcare workers stand to save their and others lifes.

Saw that. And check out the "protestors" in this situations. 50K truck. Well fed. In other pics, you can see them smiling and just having a good time. Yeah, I'm really sure their bank accounts are dwindling and businesses are going under :rolleyes. It's so fuckin' phony. These MAGATs are using these protests as an excuse to throw impromptu rallies for Dear Leader.

[hater]

if ppl have no food at home and have to go out make a living they should be allowed to.

either that or open up free public food kitchens all over the country to feed everyone (see communist CCCP)

those idiots out there protesting still dont get it. they want business as usual but thats not coming back anytime soon. millions of amwricans will have to do career changes. especially the restaurant/small business owners. they will have to become janitors, delivery guys, etc to make a living.

it is what it is. when life gives you lemons you make lemonade

[midnightpulp]

My favorite pic from the protests so far. Really shows how when "the base" is infused with the spirit of Dear Leader, they become unhinged with a kind of angry rapture not to dissimilar from a true believer speaking in tongues.

https://i.imgur.com/yTRytcu.jpg

THE BASE

[Reck]

My favorite pic from the protests so far. Really shows how when "the base" is infused with the spirit of Dear Leader, they become unhinged with a kind of angry rapture not to dissimilar from a true believer speaking in tongues.

https://i.imgur.com/yTRytcu.jpg

THE BASE

They look so incredibly unhinhed.

The best winner losers ever. I've never seem a base that won the presidency be this miserable.

[midnightpulp]

They look so incredibly unhinhed.

The best winner losers ever. I've never seem a base that won the presidency be this miserable.

"Owning the Libs" is all they live for. Even Dan Bongino said he's dedicating his career to "owning the Libs." What a stupid thing to find a meaning in life for, but Cults aren't rational.

[TSA]

https://mobile.twitter.com/jacobgershman/status/1252196539587538944

https://mobile.twitter.com/BonillaJL/status/1251920592149807106

:lol NYT

And why haven’t the subways been shut down?

[Trill Clinton]

1252068225682214913

deplorables telling a nurse risking his life to save others, to go to china.



1252069634611851267

Karen looks like she's been in her trailer since 1992

[Winehole23]

https://mobile.twitter.com/jacobgershman/status/1252196539587538944

https://mobile.twitter.com/BonillaJL/status/1251920592149807106

:lol NYT

And why haven’t the subways been shut down?That's hilarious. (blued)

So was Uber/Lyft:

https://marketurbanism.com/2020/04/19/automobiles-seeded-the-massive-coronavirus-epidemic-in-new-york-city/

[picnroll]

https://mobile.twitter.com/jacobgershman/status/1252196539587538944

https://mobile.twitter.com/BonillaJL/status/1251920592149807106

:lol NYT

And why haven’t the subways been shut down?

Which countries shut down their public transportation system?

[Winehole23]

Which countries shut down their public transportation system?Some cities have shut down or partially shut down public transit.

https://www.businessinsider.com/san-franciscos-public-transit-coronavirus-shutting-down-2020-4

https://www.salemreporter.com/posts/2159/with-shutdown-of-public-transit-riders-left-wondering-how-to-get-to-work

NYC did cut subway service by 25%: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/24/nyregion/coronavirus-nyc-mta-cuts-.html

[Splits]

"Owning the Libs" is all they live for. Even Dan Bongino said he's dedicating his career to "owning the Libs." What a stupid thing to find a meaning in life for, but Cults aren't rational.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/56/Triggered_%28Donald_Trump_Jr.%29.png/220px-Triggered_%28Donald_Trump_Jr.%29.png

[Reck]

https://mobile.twitter.com/jacobgershman/status/1252196539587538944

https://mobile.twitter.com/BonillaJL/status/1251920592149807106

:lol NYT

And why haven’t the subways been shut down?

And how would the essential workers get to..you know work.

The people who are riding the subway are those people. The normies are staying home. Manhattan is basically a ghost town.

[Spurs Homer]

I called them a CULT years ago...

once I saw ONE NAZI RALLY in 2015-2016


I knew.

[TimDunkem]

Republicans are walking contradictions. Are your bootstraps not long enough to get through staying at home? Were you not fiscally conservative enough to save for a rainy day?

[picnroll]

And how would the essential workers get to..you know work.

The people who are riding the subway are those people. The normies are staying home. Manhattan is basically a ghost town.
NY is not San Antonio. of all the cities in the US it is most dependent on public transportation. No way they could hav shut it down, to even bring that up is ridiculous

[TimDunkem]

NY is not San Antonio. of all the cities in the US it is most dependent on public transportation. No way they could hav shut it down, to even bring that up is ridiculous

TSA out of touch per par

[CosmicCowboy]

NY is not San Antonio. of all the cities in the US it is most dependent on public transportation. No way they could hav shut it down, to even bring that up is ridiculous

There are still a bazillion buses running around San Antonio on empty streets.

[DMC]

Pete Davidson unwittingly elevated Dan Crenshaw to Celebrity Status.

[Spurs Homer]

Pete Davidson unwittingly elevated Dan Crenshaw to Celebrity Status.


lol DoxxMC -

"the FAT CONTRARIAN"

[hater]

this virus is one tough mofo

A new study by one of China’s top scientists has found the ability of the new coronavirus to mutate has been vastly underestimated and different strains may account for different impacts of the disease in various parts of the world.

rofessor Li Lanjuan and her colleagues from Zhejiang University found within a small pool of patients many mutations not previously reported. These mutations included changes so rare that scientists had never considered they might occur.
They also confirmed for the first time with laboratory evidence that certain mutations could create strains deadlier than others.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3080771/coronavirus-mutations-affect-deadliness-strains-chinese-study

the virus is still mutating and who knows in a month or 2 it could be even deadlier

thisisfine.gif

[hater]

theres still a borderline chance this virus spells the end of civilization tbqh

[baseline bum]

this virus is one tough mofo

A new study by one of China’s top scientists has found the ability of the new coronavirus to mutate has been vastly underestimated and different strains may account for different impacts of the disease in various parts of the world.

rofessor Li Lanjuan and her colleagues from Zhejiang University found within a small pool of patients many mutations not previously reported. These mutations included changes so rare that scientists had never considered they might occur.
They also confirmed for the first time with laboratory evidence that certain mutations could create strains deadlier than others.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3080771/coronavirus-mutations-affect-deadliness-strains-chinese-study

the virus is still mutating and who knows in a month or 2 it could be even deadlier

thisisfine.gif

Mutations should probably make it less deadly since that gives it much better chance to replicate and spread if it doesn't kill the host.

[picnroll]

There are still a bazillion buses running around San Antonio on empty streets.

With near empty buses. Probably more social distancing on an SA bus than in a park. Should make fare free though like some cities to protect the driver. Don’t know if SA has done that.

[midnightpulp]

https://mobile.twitter.com/jacobgershman/status/1252196539587538944

https://mobile.twitter.com/BonillaJL/status/1251920592149807106

:lol NYT

And why haven’t the subways been shut down?

As Reck said, that's the main method of transport for many New Yorkers, most who are essential workers. It should be shutdown, but can it?

But also hope the Covid naysayers don't think this is a reason to classify this as a "New York" problem?

New York was life as normal for awhile, and they've already suffered 5x as many deaths from Covid vs. a typical flu season. Stands to reason that if other regions went on life as normal, the ratio would be similar. Michigan has already exceeded their typical flu death numbers.

[midnightpulp]

Mutations should probably make it less deadly since that gives it much better chance to replicate and spread if it doesn't kill the host.

Don't piss on hater's doomsday party. :lol

[hater]

Mutations should probably make it less deadly since that gives it much better chance to replicate and spread if it doesn't kill the host.

the article posted says scientists found the opposite

[hater]

Don't piss on hater's doomsday party. :lol

the situation is pretty dire tbqh given the economic impacts

sugarcoating it wont make it go away

[Winehole23]

Lost in the noise: long-term disability related to COVID-19.

Another good reason to remain focused on mitigation.

1252272379310424065

[TSA]

Lost in the noise: long-term disability related to COVID-19.

Another good reason to remain focused on mitigation.

1252272379310424065

Also lost in the noise...

Cancer deaths caused by the indirect effects of Covid-19 on the NHS will outstrip the number predicted to die from the virus, experts have warned

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1268059/cancer-deaths-coronavirus-nhs/amp?__twitter_impression=true

[picnroll]

Also lost in the noise...

Cancer deaths caused by the indirect effects of Covid-19 on the NHS will outstrip the number predicted to die from the virus, experts have warned

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1268059/cancer-deaths-coronavirus-nhs/amp?__twitter_impression=true
Link doesn’t work for me but lung scars are a focus for developing lung cancer and if COVID leads to cirrhosis there will be an increased in liver cancer.

[Winehole23]

COVID-19 transmission through air-conditioning?

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/7/20-0764_article

[DMC]

I wish we would stop talking in terms of which disease or condition causes the most deaths. These deaths aren't mutually exclusive. These are additive.

[spurraider21]

I wish we would stop talking in terms of which disease or condition causes the most deaths. These deaths aren't mutually exclusive. These are additive.
we should, but that would be inconvenient for the "we dont shut the economy down for the flu" talking point

[Winehole23]

Also lost in the noise...

Cancer deaths caused by the indirect effects of Covid-19 on the NHS will outstrip the number predicted to die from the virus, experts have warned

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1268059/cancer-deaths-coronavirus-nhs/amp?__twitter_impression=trueUnderscores the need for mitigation, tbh.

[TSA]

Link doesn’t work for me but lung scars are a focus for developing lung cancer and if COVID leads to cirrhosis there will be an increased in liver cancer.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1268059/cancer-deaths-coronavirus-nhs

[DMC]

COVID-19 transmission through air-conditioning?

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/7/20-0764_article

Don't believe it's saying it was through the air conditioning. I believe they're saying the direction of airflow would have moved droplets between the tables easier.

[DMC]

we should, but that would be inconvenient for the "we dont shut the economy down for the flu" talking point

Get your jab in there. Heaven forbid you have anything valuable to add.

[spurraider21]

Get your jab in there. Heaven forbid you have anything valuable to add.
what are you talking about? i'm the one who recommended shooting the virus with a gun

[Winehole23]

Don't believe it's saying it was through the air conditioning. I believe they're saying the direction of airflow would have moved droplets between the tables easier.Tallies with what I read.

[DMC]

Tallies with what I read.

Okay you said through the air conditioning which would mean it's airborne and could be sent all over the entire building. Airflow and air conditioning are two different things. Just because air conditioning is causing the airflow it doesn't mean that the disease is moving through the air conditioning system.

[DMC]

what are you talking about? i'm the one who recommended shooting the virus with a gun

One day you'll grow up and realize you're not nearly as clever as you pretend to be. That's when you actually start learning things.

[spurraider21]

One day you'll grow up and realize you're not nearly as clever as you pretend to be. That's when you actually start learning things.
explains why you haven't learned much, tbh

[DMC]

explains why you haven't learned much, tbh
You're still trying to impress the crew I see. Good luck with that. Maybe one day they'll accept you.

[TSA]

https://mobile.twitter.com/HelenBranswell/status/1252214723736743943

[TSA]

Full-time Trump semenshielding activated!

Article has nothing to do with Trump. You’re getting desperate sheltering in place.

[MultiTroll]

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9bnvhwWITvE/WTs2eMPwkJI/AAAAAAAAUD4/cVKQr_xjqOwufJkXLreiQboNzBA63p6FwCLcB/s1600/MixedDisastrousHammerkop.gif
Kinda looks like Kirby on defense.

[Winehole23]

Okay you said through the air conditioning which would mean it's airborne and could be sent all over the entire building. Airflow and air conditioning are two different things. Just because air conditioning is causing the airflow it doesn't mean that the disease is moving through the air conditioning system.I agree.

[picnroll]

Article has nothing to do with Trump. You’re getting desperate sheltering in place.

Can’t speak to the country but in SA oncology services are not being disrupted. In Toronto where I have a relative practicing mammography for breast cancer there is no disruption of service. I think it’s more likely there would be deaths from COVID in patients with a history of cancer with impaired immune systems from chemotherapy and particularly those who underwent a bone marrow transplant and those suppressed because of organ transplants. Pretty sure Sean Elliott wants no part of COVID.

[boutons_deux]

‘Living in a failed state’:

Devastating column slams Trump’s administration for being

‘too corrupt or stupid to head off mass suffering’

https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/posts/2020/04/DIS_Packer_Underlying/67d5a46f3.jpg

George Packer argues that the coronavirus didn’t “break” America — it revealed what was already broken.

the country already had a number of underlying conditions, according to Packer —

conditions that were being “ruthlessly” exploited. “…

a corrupt political class,

a sclerotic bureaucracy,

a heartless economy,

a divided and distracted public—

had gone untreated for years,” Packer writes.

“We had learned to live, uncomfortably, with the symptoms.

It took the scale and intimacy of a pandemic to expose their severity—

to shock Americans with the recognition that we are in the high-risk category.”

the Trump administration acted like the governments of Pakistan or Belarus —

“like a country with shoddy infrastructure and a dys#func#tional government

whose leaders were too corrupt or stupid to head off mass suffering.”

“From the president came willful blindness, scapegoating, boasts, and lies.

From his mouthpieces, conspiracy theories and miracle cures.

A few senators and corporate executives acted quickly—not to prevent the coming disaster, but to profit from it.

When a government doctor tried to warn the public of the danger,

the White House took the mic and politicized 
the message.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/living-in-a-failed-state-devastating-column-slams-trumps-administration-for-being-too-corrupt-or-stupid-to-head-off-mass-suffering/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4349

[Play Boban]

Corona = survival of the fittest. Liberate Texas.

[TSA]

:lmao your side is the side that tried to gaslight the coronavirus into going away (just a flu!), then when that didn’t work you pulled every bit of pseudoscience out of your asses and tried skewing data to fit your agenda, then when that didn’t work you just stamped your feet and screamed about “MUH LIBERTY! :cry” so let’s reassess who the desperate ones are.

No need to reassess who’s desperate, the flailing above confirmed it.

[Nathan89]

we should, but that would be inconvenient for the "we dont shut the economy down for the flu" talking point

Disagree with the conclusion all you want but putting something into context seems very worthwhile tbh

[boutons_deux]

‘I don’t see any other way out’:

Diagnostic testing and smartphone contact tracing to beat pandemic

What makes the Covid-19 pandemic so difficult to contain?

Silent transmission by asymptomatic patients is partly responsible,

but research emerging from Germany suggests the SARS-CoV-2 virus has developed a second impressive strategy for ensuring its success:

the ability to establish two separate communities within a host –

the first in the throat,

the second in the lungs.

Early colonisation of the throat is responsible for the dangerous lag between a person being infectious and the onset of symptoms.

‘With a throat-borne pathogen, the virus arrives and replicates in the throat, and all you feel is an itch or a soreness or even nothing.

As it replicates to an infectious concentration, there’s still no reaction from your immune system,’ he said.

‘Only a few days later,

when the virus spreads from the throat to the lung, do symptoms kick in.

At that point, you’ve already been spreading the virus for a few days.

As we know now, about 45% of all infectious events (with the coronavirus) occur before the onset of symptoms.’

aggressive testing within populations as essential if the world is to get on top of the pandemic.

‘Even if you identify patients on the day of symptom onset and immediately lock them in,

you’ve already lost half of the time that you’d like to have to prevent all infections,’

https://horizon.scienceblog.com/1254/i-dont-see-any-other-way-out-diagnostic-testing-and-smartphone-contact-tracing-to-beat-pandemic/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+scienceblogrssfeed+%28Science Blog.com%29 (https://horizon.scienceblog.com/1254/i-dont-see-any-other-way-out-diagnostic-testing-and-smartphone-contact-tracing-to-beat-pandemic/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+scienceblogrssfeed+%28Science Blog.com%29)

[Blake]

One day you'll grow up and realize you're not nearly as clever as you pretend to be. That's when you actually start learning things.

That's so rich

[TSA]

https://mobile.twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1252331381893595142

[boutons_deux]

the fatality rate lower,

but tell that to the staffs of ERs, ICUs

the total dead will blow past the worst flu season total in the next couple weeks.

but the fatality rate is lower, useful news, everybody back to work.

[ChumpDumper]

https://mobile.twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1252331381893595142Great. Whom do you want to die now?

[midnightpulp]

Way to go MAGATS

https://i.imgur.com/01dR8mb.png

[midnightpulp]

https://mobile.twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1252331381893595142

Honestly, why do you keep posting info from this hack? He posts these information blurbs without extrapolation in order to downplay and try to create justification for "opening up."

And it's already been theorized a month ago that true mortality rate is much lower than the official case fatality rate. And my reply to that is: So? In the harder hit regions (and even Sweden) Covid has already caused more deaths than even the worst flu seasons. New York averages about 400-500 deaths per day from ALL causes usually. They're averaging more than that in Covid deaths. This is worse than flu. It's not the Black Plague, sure, but even if we find out the real morality rate is .02 (twice that of the flu), that is still a BIG problem for a virus we don't have an immunity to and treatment for.

[Blake]

Way to go MAGATS

https://i.imgur.com/01dR8mb.png

Kentucky just might be the dumbest state in the union

[Nathan89]

As long as the hospitals can handle the patients then it's irrelevant that the mortality rate is twice that of the flu.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1252215770504978438?s=20

You can justify anything with the standard "as long as we can save one life". I'm happy this virus is exposing the authoritarian nature of government officials tbh

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1252215770504978438?s=20

You can justify anything with the standard "as long as we can save one life". I'm happy this virus is exposing the authoritarian nature of government officials tbhTrump said he has absolute authority and not a peep from you.

[ChumpDumper]

As long as the hospitals can handle the patients then it's irrelevant that the mortality rate is twice that of the flu.How many would you like to die?

[midnightpulp]

As long as the hospitals can handle the patients then it's irrelevant that the mortality rate is twice that of the flu.

Do you know why some hospitals can potentially handle a surge right now? Yeah, that's how stay-at-home orders work. I don't know why people are under the impression that the plateau we're on (we're past the peak and are riding a plateau now) is the result of "just because." No, it's a fuckin' result of our collective efforts to stay the fuck home.

[Nathan89]

Do you know why some hospitals can potentially handle a surge right now? Yeah, that's how stay-at-home orders work. I don't know why people are under the impression that the plateau we're on (we're past the peak and are riding a plateau now) is the result of "just because." No, it's a fuckin' result of our collective efforts to stay the fuck home.

Who's under that impression? Probably a whole bunch of people you misattributed that impression to.

[midnightpulp]

Who's under that impression? Probably a whole bunch of people you misattributed that impression to.

The "open up" crowd is under that impression. "Oh, it's not so bad in my town. We're not New York! Open up!" It's "not so bad in your town" precisely because it isn't "opened up." And most of these small towns and rural regions are woefully underequipped to handle even a 10 patent surge at the same time.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/realYDB/status/1252361185883648007?s=20

[midnightpulp]

Gonna dump some Spanish Flu clippings:

https://i.imgur.com/7KI0boK.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/W4WKpdr.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/CJmDPrm.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/EYltjul.jpg

:madrun "This kind of oppression on our FREEDDUMBS has never happened before in Murrica! It's those EVIL Librul Gub'nors getting off on their power! Open up! :madrun

[hater]

https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1252215770504978438?s=20

You can justify anything with the standard "as long as we can save one life". I'm happy this virus is exposing the authoritarian nature of government officials tbh

Ill shoot a drone of it flies over my property tbqh

[midnightpulp]

https://twitter.com/realYDB/status/1252361185883648007?s=20

WHO. FUCKIN. CARES.

[Nathan89]

Gonna dump some Spanish Flu clippings:

https://i.imgur.com/7KI0boK.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/W4WKpdr.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/CJmDPrm.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/EYltjul.jpg

:madrun "This kind of oppression on our FREEDDUMBS has never happened before in Murrica! It's those EVIL Librul Gub'nors getting off on their power! Open up! :madrun

What was the mortality rate of the Spanish flu?

[boutons_deux]

WHO. FUCKIN. CARES.

that kind of lie save lives

Trash, otoh

Tells lies that kill people

[midnightpulp]

What was the mortality rate of the Spanish flu?

No one really knows. The death toll estimate ranges from 17 million to 100 million worldwide. All we know is that Spanish Flu was bad. All we know here is that Covid is bad. What's the logical response to bad viruses we have no immunity to, no treatment for, and don't have proper information about? Not getting the fuckin' thing. What's the best way not to get a virus? Staying away from other people as much as possible.

[Nathan89]

Ill shoot a drone of it flies over my property tbqh

The drones are justified because "it might save one life" though. You are basically killing someone might taking such an action.

[midnightpulp]

that kind of lie save lives

Trash, otoh

Tells lies that kill people

And I don't know where the "mayor lied?" He was relaying the information based on the official stats. I don't know how "he could've known" the fatality rate was much lower when the study was just fuckin' published. And his health commissioner relayed that new information to the public. This is more LibertarianTARD rage about "gub'mint" being "devious" in order to control the masses.

And even if the mortality rate is the same as the flu. It. Doesn't. Matter.

[Nathan89]

No one really knows. The death toll estimate ranges from 17 million to 100 million worldwide. All we know is that Spanish Flu was bad. All we know here is that Covid is bad. What's the logical response to bad viruses we have no immunity to, no treatment for, and don't have proper information about? Not getting the fuckin' thing. What's the best way not to get a virus? Staying away from other people as much as possible.

Figured they'd have an estimate or something but I guess they just wrote down "all we know is the Spanish flu is bad".

[midnightpulp]

:madrun "We've never had our 1st amendment rights trampled like this! It's because of all the LIBRULS. I wish I could go back in time to a Murrica where they respected our rights!" :madrun


https://i.imgur.com/E0BkMfn.jpg

[DarrinS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXk-mPzdwF8

[picnroll]

Way to go MAGATS

https://i.imgur.com/01dR8mb.png

I guess the liberate Kentuckians are rallying in the emergency room. Wonder if they wear their MAGA hats.

[boutons_deux]

Trump slammed for attacking GOP governor as he tries to secure testing materials from overseas

Aaron Rupar
(https://twitter.com/atrupar)✔@atrupar
(https://twitter.com/atrupar)
(https://twitter.com/atrupar)"The governor of Maryland didn't really understand. He didn't really understand what was going on" -- Trump begins the April 20 #TrumpPressBriefing (https://twitter.com/hashtag/TrumpPressBriefing?src=hash) by attacking Republican Gov. Larry Hogan of Maryland, who has been critical of the federal coronavirus response.

=============

Commenters on Twitter took umbrage at Trump’s attack — some of them noting that

Hogan has actually done what the president demanded governors do and pursued medical resources on his own.

Kathryn Watson
(https://twitter.com/kathrynw5)
(https://twitter.com/kathrynw5)✔@kathrynw5
(https://twitter.com/kathrynw5)
(https://twitter.com/kathrynw5)The president has told governors it's their responsibility to get tests.

So that's what @GovLarryHogan (https://twitter.com/GovLarryHogan) and Maryland's first lady did —

they secured 500,000 tests from South Korea.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/trump-slammed-for-attacking-gop-governor-as-he-tries-to-secure-testing-materials-from-overseas/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/trump-slammed-for-attacking-gop-governor-as-he-tries-to-secure-testing-materials-from-overseas/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)

[benefactor]

Way to go MAGATS

https://i.imgur.com/01dR8mb.png
Darwin wins again tbh

[midnightpulp]

Figured they'd have an estimate or something but I guess they just wrote down "all we know is the Spanish flu is bad".

A range of 17 to 100 million is a worthless estimate. Yes. All you need to know to take action against something is "that it's bad." I think New York City suffering nearly 20K deaths (when their flu death toll is usually around 4000 over 6 months) should illustrate how bad this is.

Is this where we pivot to from Covid/with Covid? This is also dumb, because if Covid turns a livable hypertension disorder into a death, yes, you died FROM Covid.

And deaths aren't the only thing that matters in judging severity. What about the hospitalization rates? ICU rates? Or the average recovery time? We really don't know right now. But New York has provided a good sample. They had 18K hospitalizations last flu season. Already up to 57K Covid hospitalizations.

[MultiTroll]

I'm happy this virus is exposing the authoritarian nature of government officials tbh
I'm happy law enforcement is utilizing drones to catch criminal behavior.

[midnightpulp]

That said, with all my nation of spoiled children jabs, Americans are heeding the advice.


There's plenty of polling on stay-at-home orders, and they're quite popular. A Quinnipiac University poll taken this month found that 81% of voters favored a national stay-at-home order.

It's that fucktarded 20 percent of spoiled, rotten, misinformed Trumpers and LiberTARDians that are the problem right now.

[boutons_deux]

‘That’s just delusional’:

Governors are calling Trump’s bluff over COVID-19 testing

Trump spent much of his Sunday coronavirus news briefing boasting about the country’s testing capacity (https://www.salon.com/2020/03/29/as-us-coronavirus-testing-lags-scientists-say-we-need-better-tests-to-restart-society/),

but governors around the nation fact-checked the president’s claims as “delusional” and “totally false.”

he claimed that testing had “rapidly” expanded to “millions and millions of people.”

“It should be a local thing,” Trump insisted, but “we’re helping them a lot.”

But governors from both parties fact-checked these claims as false.

The U.S. is currently processing about 150,000 tests per day, according to the Covid Tracking Project (https://covidtracking.com/data/us-daily).

However, Harvard researchers estimate that the U.S. will have to conduct upwards of 500,000 to 700,000 tests per day (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/17/us/coronavirus-testing-states.html) to be able to reopen by mid-May.

Testing is needed to identify and isolate new cases and trace their contacts to prevent further outbreaks.

“Every governor in America has been pushing and fighting and clawing to get more tests.”

“The president is simply lying about the availability of all those components of testing —

the swabs and everything,"

“You can’t get those things. You cannot get them.”

Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine, a Republican, said his state could vastly increase testing if the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) changed its guidelines around testing reagents, which are chemicals used to extract and detect samples.

“I could probably double — maybe even triple — testing in Ohio virtually overnight if the FDA would prioritize companies that are putting a slightly different formula together for the extraction reagent kit,”

Trump’s testing czar, :lol

Assistant Health and Human Services Sec. Admiral Brett Giroir, has also come under fire after The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/brett-giroir-trumps-testing-czar-was-forced-out-of-a-job-developing-vaccine-projects-now-hes-on-the-hot-seat/2020/04/19/b061b968-7e89-11ea-8de7-9fdff6d5d83e_story.html) reported that

he was forced out of his old job developing vaccines at Texas A&M University

after a brutal performance review. :lol The Best People!

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/thats-just-delusional-governors-are-calling-trumps-bluff-over-covid-19-testing/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/thats-just-delusional-governors-are-calling-trumps-bluff-over-covid-19-testing/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)

Trash and his kakistocracy, the eternal SHIT SHOW

[baseline bum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXk-mPzdwF8

Damn I hope remdesivir is successful in its trials.

[SnakeBoy]

Damn I hope remdesivir is successful in its trials.

but Trump touted it in the same breath as hydroxychloroquine

[Trainwreck2100]

Way to go MAGATS

https://i.imgur.com/01dR8mb.png

I'm so tired of this association, these new cases are probably the easter cases, the protest cases should be sometime later this week early next week

[DarrinS]

Damn I hope remdesivir is successful in its trials.

I'm hoping for anything that works.

[slick'81]

I'm hoping for anything that works.


We all are D

[picnroll]

but Trump touted it in the same breath as hydroxychloroquine

Sorry, nice try but still no credit for Trash but again nice try. Hydroxychloroquine was Dr Trash’s medicine shows’ premature ejaculatory magic potion. But I’m sure Trash will pivot to claiming he invented it and pushed it all along.

[ChumpDumper]

but Trump touted it in the same breath as hydroxychloroquineMaybe he and you picked the wrong horse to ride after that.

[boutons_deux]

Damn I hope remdesivir is successful in its trials.

'At home' study will test if common drug can prevent serious COVID-19 complications

Study participants will receive the drug by mail within 48 hours of diagnosis.

test whether a common anti-inflammatory drug can ward off serious complications from COVID-19 and possibly prevent patients from ending up in the hospital.

"We suspect that early treatment, before the onset of severe symptoms requiring hospitalization, may provide the best chance to improve outcomes.

By the time extensive lung damage has developed, it may be too late to intervene successfully."

Colchicine is a widely available drug used to treat gout (https://www.livescience.com/34729-gout-causes-symptoms-treatment.html), a type of arthritis

The drug works by reducing joint pain, inflammation and swelling.

https://www.livescience.com/covid-19-anti-inflammatory-drug-colchicine-study.html?utm_source=Selligent&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1686%E2%80%A6

yet another anti-inflammatory.

There are natural substances that are powerful anti-inflammatories

and there are lots foods that are pro-inflammatory

[DarrinS]

That said, with all my nation of spoiled children jabs, Americans are heeding the advice.


It's that fucktarded 20 percent of spoiled, rotten, misinformed Trumpers and LiberTARDians that are the problem right now.


I really get where you're coming from, but I've also seen the videos of thousands of vehicles in line at the food bank. I have the luxury of sheltering in place (I hate that phrase), but I know a lot of people out there don't have it as easy.

[ChumpDumper]

I really get where you're coming from, but I've also seen the videos of thousands of vehicles in line at the food bank. I have the luxury of sheltering in place (I hate that phrase), but I know a lot of people out there don't have it as easy.That's essential travel and everyone stays in their cars. I don't see the parallel. Guess I have to see the poll question but I think that would be understood.

[boutons_deux]

Low-cost, easy-to-build ventilator performs similarly to high-quality commercial device

Ventilator could support coronavirus treatment in low-income regions or where supplies are limited

https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-04/elf-lev041720.php (https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-04/elf-lev041720.php)

[midnightpulp]

I really get where you're coming from, but I've also seen the videos of thousands of vehicles in line at the food bank. I have the luxury of sheltering in place (I hate that phrase), but I know a lot of people out there don't have it as easy.

This is why it's going to take a collective effort with regards to charity and aid to help those that don't have the luxury. Those jobs and those wages aren't just going to spring back into existence when the "open up" order is given. People aren't going to fill restaurants, theaters, clubs, sporting events, bars, etc like they once did.

We're also going to have to think about how to temporarily tweak traditional businesses that rely on crowds in some way where they can still employ servers. Transform the traditional restaurant dining experience into a drive-in, like those old 50s diners where the gals on roller skates came to your cars. Theater industry needs to transition to drive-ins. That kind of thing.

[boutons_deux]

'At home' study will test if common drug can prevent serious COVID-19 complications

Study participants will receive the drug by mail within 48 hours of diagnosis.

test whether a common anti-inflammatory drug can ward off serious complications from COVID-19 and possibly prevent patients from ending up in the hospital.

"We suspect that early treatment, before the onset of severe symptoms requiring hospitalization, may provide the best chance to improve outcomes.

By the time extensive lung damage has developed, it may be too late to intervene successfully."

Colchicine is a widely available drug used to treat gout (https://www.livescience.com/34729-gout-causes-symptoms-treatment.html), a type of arthritis

The drug works by reducing joint pain, inflammation and swelling.

https://www.livescience.com/covid-19-anti-inflammatory-drug-colchicine-study.html?utm_source=Selligent&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1686%E2%80%A6

yet another anti-inflammatory.

There are natural substances that are powerful anti-inflammatories

and there are lots foods that are pro-inflammatory




cheap

https://www.alldaychemist.com/zycolchin.html

[baseline bum]

but Trump touted it in the same breath as hydroxychloroquine

Are you really asking me if I'd prefer 500,000 dead and a Biden presidency vs 45,000 dead and Trump getting re-elected?

[baseline bum]

I'm hoping for anything that works.

I'm hoping for anything that works that is already deep into clinical trials, because we're probably going back to exponential growth once the country reopens.

[midnightpulp]

That's essential travel and everyone stays in their cars. I don't see the parallel. Guess I have to see the poll question but I think that would be understood.

Think Darren was using it as an example of how people are hurting financially right now. And this is something we have indeed have to address. But I don't see how open up will help your out of work waiters/waitresses, bartenders, theater snackbar workers and ushers, retail salespeople? Those industries won't fully recover until vaccine/herd immunity.

[ChumpDumper]

Think Darren was using it as an example of how people are hurting financially right now. And this is something we have indeed have to address. But I don't see how open up will help your out of work waiters/waitresses, bartenders, theater snackbar workers and ushers, retail salespeople? Those industries won't fully recover until vaccine/herd immunity.Right, I forgot he was in the open crowd for a second. Germany is opening up smaller retail shops now. Seems like a paradox but maybe it's the testing that's giving them confidence.

[Blake]

https://twitter.com/realYDB/status/1252361185883648007?s=20

Right, "to stoke fear".

You're an idiot

[midnightpulp]

Right, I forgot he was in the open crowd for a second. Germany is opening up smaller retail shops now. Seems like a paradox but maybe it's the testing that's giving them confidence.

Testing, testing, testing and tracing is the way back to some degree of normalcy, indeed.

[DarrinS]

Think Darren was using it as an example of how people are hurting financially right now. And this is something we have indeed have to address. But I don't see how open up will help your out of work waiters/waitresses, bartenders, theater snackbar workers and ushers, retail salespeople? Those industries won't fully recover until vaccine/herd immunity.


If this pandemic had occurred 20 years ago, I would have been financially ruined. I know this is happening to people right now and they are desperate.

[DarrinS]

Testing, testing, testing and tracing is the way back to some degree of normalcy, indeed.

And a proven treatment

[ChumpDumper]

Testing, testing, testing and tracing is the way back to some degree of normalcy, indeed.So roll the dice until September. USA! USA!

[ChumpDumper]

If this pandemic had occurred 20 years ago, I would have been financially ruined. I know this is happening to people right now and they are desperate.Temporary UBI. Would probably guarantee Trump's reelection as well.

[baseline bum]

Temporary UBI. Would probably guarantee Trump's reelection as well.

Yeah $1000 a month per person for the next 4-5 months or until there is a treatment good enough to allow us to fully reopen the country (we're obviously not doing the testing + contact tracing method South Korea has successfully employed).

[midnightpulp]

If this pandemic had occurred 20 years ago, I would have been financially ruined. I know this is happening to people right now and they are desperate.

Yeah, it sucks. And it really is damned if you, damned if you don't. There's just no way to completely avoid economic turmoil. And people have been warning about pandemics for years, if not decades. We dodged a couple of bullets in the past (SARS-1, Bird Flu), but it was really only a matter of time. We got complacent. All of us. A pandemic wasn't on my list of personal concerns, either. They happened "in the past" or they "happen over there." I'm as guilty as anyone.

What we need is national rainy day fund of trillions and trillions, and a building up of our healthcare infrastructure to a level never before seen. This will not be the last pandemic threat, and I consider them more of a threat than anything military related. So I'm saying I want the same, if not more, focus on pandemic response than national defense going forward.

[DarrinS]

Temporary UBI. Would probably guarantee Trump's reelection as well.

Most can't even get their money, since they didn't use auto deposit for tax refunds. I got a check right away, and I don't even need it. Currently looking for a good charity.

[DMC]

Random low value comment per par

[ChumpDumper]

Most can't even get their money, since they didn't use auto deposit for tax refunds.That is fixed much more easily that the current testing failure.

[DarrinS]

Yeah $1000 a month per person for the next 4-5 months or until there is a treatment good enough to allow us to fully reopen the country (we're obviously not doing the testing + contact tracing method South Korea has successfully employed).

Whatever happened with the Apple/Google project to track cases?

[baseline bum]

Yeah, it sucks. And it really is damned if you, damned if you don't. There's just no way to completely avoid economic turmoil. And people have been warning about pandemics for years, if not decades. We dodged a couple of bullets in the past (SARS-1, Bird Flu), but it was really only a matter of time. We got complacent. All of us. A pandemic wasn't on my list of personal concerns, either. They happened "in the past" or they "happen over there." I'm as guilty as anyone.

What we need is national rainy day fund of trillions and trillions, and a building up of our healthcare infrastructure to a level never before seen. This will not be the last pandemic threat, and I consider them more of a threat than anything military related. So I'm saying I want the same, if not more, focus on pandemic response than national defense going forward.

I know what you mean. Pandemic was only on my list of concerns because I saw Bill Gates give a TED talk on them five years ago and then started reading about the 1918 Spanish Flu and how it devastated the world. Pretty fascinating to watch firsthand interviews from people who survived the pandemic. A few hard hit counties in Alabama I think published on youtube interviews with survivors a few years ago that were fascinating to listen to and how these little towns banded up and tried to care for their neighbors who couldn't leave the house or even their beds.

[baseline bum]

Whatever happened with the Apple/Google project to track cases?

Not sure.

[picnroll]

Whatever happened with the Apple/Google project to track cases?

Europe who is so protective of everyone’s privacy wants Apple to open up bluetooth to them so they can use their own api. Apple says sorry that’s not in our privacy playbook. Who knows what’s happening in the US, probably feds, states and every ACLU lawyer ever born is weighing in.

[boutons_deux]

Trump’s Golf Company Pushes Dangerous Theory That Alcohol Will Cure The Coronavirus

In a video shared by Donald Trump’s golf company on Twitter, professional golfer and Trump supporter John Daly suggested alcohol will cure the coronavirus.

“I kinda got a cure for this, ya know.

I think you just take – I only drink one drink a day, it just happens to be a bottle of good old Belvedere,” the golfer said.

“That’s the way you kill this coronavirus, I believe.”

https://www.politicususa.com/2020/04/20/trump-golf-company-pushes-dangerous-theory-that-alcohol-will-cure-the-coronavirus.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29 (https://www.politicususa.com/2020/04/20/trump-golf-company-pushes-dangerous-theory-that-alcohol-will-cure-the-coronavirus.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29)

[DarrinS]

Europe who is so protective of everyone’s privacy wants Apple to open up bluetooth to them so they can use their own api. Apple says sorry that’s not in our privacy playbook. Who knows what’s happening in the US, probably feds, states and every ACLU lawyer ever born is weighing in.

Yeah, probably a big privacy issue. Plus, not enough testing for it to work anyway.

[picnroll]

Yeah, probably a big privacy issue. Plus, not enough testing for it to work anyway.
Google and Apple will likely put together a pretty good infrastructure but they want the governments to create the api which will likely be the fuck up point (see democratic voting app). Already some senators and reps are pissing and moaning about privacy, probably mostly because it will be anonymized, to the extent possible, and they won’t control the keys. Then you’ll have the conspiracy theorist to deal with. It’s intended to be voluntary but only effective to the extent of uptake.

[Blake]

.


You lot are so focused on me it's amusing. Why do you care what I think?

That's rich

[ElNono]

Do you know why some hospitals can potentially handle a surge right now? Yeah, that's how stay-at-home orders work. I don't know why people are under the impression that the plateau we're on (we're past the peak and are riding a plateau now) is the result of "just because." No, it's a fuckin' result of our collective efforts to stay the fuck home.

I don't want anybody to die unnecessarily, but we're talking cult mentality here, tbh... at some point they're only going to get the memo once the body count goes high up enough. Pretty sad since we had the whole hoax thing like 2 months ago, and apparently some people have extremely short memory.

[ElNono]

:madrun "This kind of oppression on our FREEDDUMBS has never happened before in Murrica! It's those EVIL Librul Gub'nors getting off on their power! Open up! :madrun

yup... just general ignorance...

[ElNono]

:madrun "We've never had our 1st amendment rights trampled like this! It's because of all the LIBRULS. I wish I could go back in time to a Murrica where they respected our rights!" :madrun

But but, the founding fathers...

[SnakeBoy]

Are you really asking me if I'd prefer 500,000 dead and a Biden presidency vs 45,000 dead and Trump getting re-elected?

Strange I never even implied that. Just odd that one remdesivir anecdote is "hopeful" but hundreds of hydroxychloroquine anecdotes are just anecdotes.

[ChumpDumper]

Strange I never even implied that. Just odd that one remdesivir anecdote is "hopeful" but hundreds of hydroxychloroquine anecdotes are just anecdotes.All hopeful anecdotes. Pretending hydroxychloroquine worked for sure was your side's problem.

[ChumpDumper]

Republican governor with the banderas.gif of the day.

1252404969669488640

[baseline bum]

Strange I never even implied that. Just odd that one remdesivir anecdote is "hopeful" but hundreds of hydroxychloroquine anecdotes are just anecdotes.

I have been nothing but clear that I hope hydroxychloroquine works also. Just because I hate Trump doesn't mean I wouldn't love it if one of the drugs he's touting actually works and saves a ton of lives and pulls us out of this mess.

[ElNono]

Whatever happened with the Apple/Google project to track cases?

Looks like there are some details here:
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/04/2-billion-phones-cannot-use-google-and-apple-contract-tracing-tech/

[midnightpulp]

I don't want anybody to die unnecessarily, but we're talking cult mentality here, tbh... at some point they're only going to get the memo once the body count goes high up enough. Pretty sad since we had the whole hoax thing like 2 months ago, and apparently some people have extremely short memory.

Never seen anything like the Cult of Trump in the US. Usually this populist, cult of personality shit is reserved for 3rd World dictatorships.

[TDMVPDPOY]

those who self isolate with covit, theres a chance of it coming back, doesnt mean ur immune from getting it again...

thats whats happening in south korea atm

[DarrinS]

Looks like there are some details here:
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/04/2-billion-phones-cannot-use-google-and-apple-contract-tracing-tech/

Thanks :tu

[slick'81]

those who self isolate with covit, theres a chance of it coming back, doesnt mean ur immune from getting it again...

thats whats happening in south korea atm

we obviously dont know if there is immunity or if a vaccine will ever be found. We are going to see what happens a month after we open back up

[midnightpulp]

Some better data on asymptomatic/presymptomatic rate.

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Good and bad. Good, because it guarantees a lower mortality rate. Bad, because that large of a percentage who don't know they have it can easily spread it to those vulnerable. If anything, the large proportion of asymptomatic carriers is more of a reason to social distance. Reason SARS-1 burned itself out quickly was because asymptomatic carriers weren't really that infectious and then could easily isolate when they got sick.