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baseline bum
09-22-2021, 12:16 AM
Especially after that cocksucker in the White House assured us we'd have tests up the wazoo.
But that cocksucker hasn't been in the White House since January, cubby
Thread
09-22-2021, 12:16 AM
I'm not a delusional covid zero guy.
I think its important to keep it manageable. Its with us forever.
Geez, and after we'd been assured that all we needed to do was move President Trump out---move cocksucker Biden in and just like that, no more COVID.
Nope. Now, I'm countin' coup and I ain't stoppin'.
I got 30 stacks High Society I'm gonna lay on that mother fucker Biden come Friday.
- "Who's the wild man now!?!"
- "D-Bob" - "Rudy"
Thread
09-22-2021, 12:18 AM
But that cocksucker hasn't been in the White House since January, cubby
That cocksucker is in there right-this-second. That mother fucker.
baseline bum
09-22-2021, 12:23 AM
That cocksucker is in there right-this-second. That mother fucker.
No, the cocksucker got beat back in November and now there is a reasonable adult in the White House right this second.
Thread
09-22-2021, 12:24 AM
No, the cocksucker got beat back in November and now there is a reasonable adult in the White House right this second.
There's a cocksucker in there right now. He's also a mother fucker & a pedophile=Biden.
baseline bum
09-22-2021, 12:50 AM
There's a cocksucker in there right now. He's also a mother fucker & a pedophile=Biden.
How many times you fucked your mother and you want to call someone else a mother fucker? Especially when that someone is your duly elected President?
Thread
09-22-2021, 01:08 AM
How many times you fucked your mother and you want to call someone else a mother fucker? Especially when that someone is your duly elected President?
On Tuesday night you're gonna do "mother?" You couldn't wait till Wednesday morning, perhaps even Thursday before a Friday? No, you have to pull "mother" when I'm about to hit the couch. I'm worn to a nub and you start this shit tonight. GD you, bum.
Frenchfred
09-22-2021, 02:51 AM
:lol. BLM and Magatards united against Biden :lol
You cant make this sheet up :lol
Cant wait for the BLM riots vs vax mandates.:lol
https://twitter.com/patyspinely/status/1440403311039967246?s=19
as stupid as maga supporters
hater
09-22-2021, 05:28 AM
as stupid as maga supporters
Racist!!!
hater
09-22-2021, 06:01 AM
Looks like New Zealand has fallen folks :cry
https://twitter.com/realCarrickRyan/status/1440608349460963344?s=19
hater
09-22-2021, 06:03 AM
https://twitter.com/ianmSC/status/1437506321075507204?s=19
hater
09-22-2021, 06:49 AM
:lmao Bolsoshitler brings Delga to UN general assembly :lol
This nig Bolso is unvaxxed but already had Covid a while ago and is healthy as an ox. Dat Natural Immunity :wow
https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1440634462623068162?s=19
hater
09-22-2021, 07:05 AM
"Dangerous gangmembers smuggling buckets of KFC into locked down Auckland"
:lmao :lol :lol
Holeee.sheeet. my Aetearoa is kaput. Fuck :pctoss
https://twitter.com/ajplus/status/1440391126389694478?s=19
boutons_deux
09-22-2021, 07:47 AM
Florida just can stop
'Fear is done':
Florida's new surgeon general outspoken critic of COVID lockdowns, mandates
'There is nothing special about (vaccines) compared to any other preventive measure,' Dr. Joseph Ladapo said
a UCLA medical professor (https://www.uclahealth.org/providers/joseph-ladapo) who has published controversial articles about “COVID mania” and
is an outspoken critic of lockdowns, mask and vaccine mandates and other mitigation measures —
has been named as Florida's new surgeon general,
The news of Ladapo's appointment drew
immediate praise from Jenny Beth Martin, honorary chair of Tea Party Patriots Action, :lol
a national nonprofit fighting medical mandates.
https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/local/state/2021/09/21/joseph-ladapo-tapped-to-be-florida-new-surgeon-general/5798242001
Winehole23
09-22-2021, 08:03 AM
Death and hospitalization aren't the only relevant social costs. Chronic symptoms and disabilities can result from mild cases of COVID, even in younger people without comorbidities.
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Winehole23
09-22-2021, 08:22 AM
cases are down 10-15% from the recent peak, but shit like this is still happening
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boutons_deux
09-22-2021, 08:23 AM
the Medical Industrial Complex will pocket $100Bs from The Trump-Made Pandemic
Tallying Covid's hospital costs for complex cases
https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/8X4NmOJl-72CbuSieA_AvPKZhgOEbf08v5f-MpSdG8sOC7bFfCXT9_HJ6odBbYzvgW2r41HVjF3ZDpwvJ4IKzN Hemto3_QK9SawzWUlRJy37a9hyQsCVLLhN3skVo1K0BwCck4Ws 6rMOS2Z1Ph8hn1fhyg5t5g=s0-d-e1-ft#https://mcusercontent.com/f8609630ae206654824f897b6/images/9cb3a0cb-6af4-d623-10c2-97e08a928330.png
-- STAT email
and millions will be stressed (made ill) with debt collections, garnished bank account, liens which for some will include lifelong disability, loss of income, impoverishment
https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/brief/unvaccinated-covid-patients-cost-the-u-s-health-system-billions-of-dollars
diego
09-22-2021, 08:25 AM
:lmao Bolsoshitler brings Delga to UN general assembly :lol
This nig Bolso is unvaxxed but already had Covid a while ago and is healthy as an ox. Dat Natural Immunity :wow
https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1440634462623068162?s=19
Bolsonaro the ox? Dude has been hospitalized twice in his presidency, his health is a daily topic for Brasilian media, iirc this is the third outbreak in his cabinet
boutons_deux
09-22-2021, 08:26 AM
I assume that the unvaxxed dead will have spend days or weeks in ICU, leaving $100Ks of debt which the debt collectors will attempt to take from the deceased estate.
Winehole23
09-22-2021, 08:36 AM
Bolsonaro the ox? Dude has been hospitalized twice in his presidency, his health is a daily topic for Brasilian media, iirc this is the third outbreak in his cabinethater ill-conceals his admiration for blowhards and bullies like Bolsonaro and Trump by pretending to hate them online. maybe becausee he is something of a bully and a blowhard himself.
hater
09-22-2021, 08:48 AM
Bolsonaro the ox? Dude has been hospitalized twice in his presidency, his health is a daily topic for Brasilian media, iirc this is the third outbreak in his cabinet
He beat Covid without a vax tbqh
Gotta give props when props are due :tu
He now has the almighty Natural Immunity too
Hes a shit but his immunity is :tu now
Winehole23
09-22-2021, 08:55 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_5NDQpVQAIplyN?format=jpg&name=medium
diego
09-22-2021, 09:01 AM
He beat Covid without a vax tbqh
Gotta give props when props are due :tu
He now has the almighty Natural Immunity too
Hes a shit but his immunity is :tu now
He was hospitalized and received the best care Brasil can give, just like all politicians and rich people everywhere. Has nothing to do with health and everything to do with money
hater
09-22-2021, 09:04 AM
He was hospitalized and received the best care Brasil can give, just like all politicians and rich people everywhere. Has nothing to do with health and everything to do with money
So if you are rich you are safe from dying of Covid?
boutons_deux
09-22-2021, 09:12 AM
After quashing mask, vaccine mandates,
GOP governors fresh out of ideas for stemming COVID-19 spread
Watching Republican governors repeatedly put everyone's life at risk in order to curry favor with a fringe minority of GOP voters continues to be both stunning and horrific.
Tate Reeves ... assure the nation he wouldn't lift a single finger to save lives in his state—
regardless of the fact that pandemic-related deaths have been soaring there.
he accused Tapper of gotcha journalism—as if asking questions about the efficacy and lethality of a governor’s policies should be off the table.
Among the GOP governors promising to jeopardize people in the name of personal freedom, Reeves' messaging incompetence really stands out—a proud moment to be sure.
Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp ... said he was fresh out of ideas for how to stop the pandemic as it pushed the state's hospitals to the brink of collapse.
Ron DeSantis, the governor is vowing to protect residents against the scourge of government action.
DeSantis has done everything in his power (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/8/11/2045184/-Ministers-of-death-Republican-governors-leave-kids-100-defenseless-against-delta-surge) to quash local and federal mandates (https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-ne-vaccine-mandates-desantis-20210913-jlrs5jlkyjfsrd5o56dlwzgudi-story.html) and mitigation efforts.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/9/21/2053525/-GOP-governors-fall-all-over-themselves-to-ensure-the-pandemic-thrives-in-their-states
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09-22-2021, 09:13 AM
After quashing mask, vaccine mandates,
GOP governors fresh out of ideas for stemming COVID-19 spread
Watching Republican governors repeatedly put everyone's life at risk in order to curry favor with a fringe minority of GOP voters continues to be both stunning and horrific.
Tate Reeves ... assure the nation he wouldn't lift a single finger to save lives in his state—
regardless of the fact that pandemic-related deaths have been soaring there.
he accused Tapper of gotcha journalism—as if asking questions about the efficacy and lethality of a governor’s policies should be off the table.
Among the GOP governors promising to jeopardize people in the name of personal freedom, Reeves' messaging incompetence really stands out—a proud moment to be sure.
Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp ... said he was fresh out of ideas for how to stop the pandemic as it pushed the state's hospitals to the brink of collapse.
Ron DeSantis, the governor is vowing to protect residents against the scourge of government action.
DeSantis has done everything in his power (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/8/11/2045184/-Ministers-of-death-Republican-governors-leave-kids-100-defenseless-against-delta-surge) to quash local and federal mandates (https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-ne-vaccine-mandates-desantis-20210913-jlrs5jlkyjfsrd5o56dlwzgudi-story.html) and mitigation efforts.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/9/21/2053525/-GOP-governors-fall-all-over-themselves-to-ensure-the-pandemic-thrives-in-their-states
On cocksucker Biden's time, daddy-O.
hater
09-22-2021, 10:00 AM
More than if you're poor yeah you dumb fuck. :lol
So Covid checks your bank balance before attacking. Got it. Stupid fuckface :lmao
hater
09-22-2021, 10:03 AM
Yeah really. Break it down by income and you'll see it fuck face. :lol
Go ahead and do it as you are the one claiming it. :lmao
hater
09-22-2021, 10:05 AM
Ain't wasting a google search in my fucking morning. :lmao
The Folding
:lmao
diego
09-22-2021, 10:22 AM
So if you are rich you are safe from dying of Covid?
Never said that but much lower chances, provided you actually go to the hospital.. since you disagree you should be able to cite cases of elites dying despite their access to best medical care, I'm sure youll find one or two cases
diego
09-22-2021, 10:22 AM
Double post
hater
09-22-2021, 10:33 AM
Never said that but much lower chances, provided you actually go to the hospital.. since you disagree you should be able to cite cases of elites dying despite their access to best medical care, I'm sure youll find one or two cases
I disagree. We are talking about US. Any of us can go to a hospital and get treated for Covid and the treatment would not be much different than a rich guy.
Sure lots of cases:
Herman Cain
Maria Mercadier - newscaster
KEnzo Takada - fashion.designer
Tommy Devito - founder Four Seasons
Mike Williamson - The Temptations
On and on
Now in South America things might be different. But in Colombia for example no matter if u are rich or pooor. U start having breathing problems w covid and you are fucked. Money wont make much difference. No ventilators for anyone and low oxygen for everyone.
But the point is Bolso got most likely a similar treatment you would get in a US hospital. So now he has that good Natural Immunity
diego
09-22-2021, 11:45 AM
I disagree. We are talking about US. Any of us can go to a hospital and get treated for Covid and the treatment would not be much different than a rich guy.
Sure lots of cases:
Herman Cain
Maria Mercadier - newscaster
KEnzo Takada - fashion.designer
Tommy Devito - founder Four Seasons
Mike Williamson - The Temptations
On and on
Now in South America things might be different. But in Colombia for example no matter if u are rich or pooor. U start having breathing problems w covid and you are fucked. Money wont make much difference. No ventilators for anyone and low oxygen for everyone.
But the point is Bolso got most likely a similar treatment you would get in a US hospital. So now he has that good Natural Immunity
Ill give you Cain, the others are either old as fuck or not really rich. Like I said, an exception, not comparable to the millions of poor people who died without even getting a hospital bed.
Frenchfred
09-22-2021, 11:56 AM
Racist!!!
maga are white :bobo
hater
09-22-2021, 11:56 AM
maga are white :bobo
BLM are not.
Racist!
hater
09-22-2021, 12:01 PM
Ill give you Cain, the others are either old as fuck or not really rich. Like I said, an exception, not comparable to the millions of poor people who died without even getting a hospital bed.
:lmao so much fail in this post.
Cain was 74. The others mentione ALL but Takada and Devito were younger and all multi millionaires :lol
Do you realize how many more millions of non multi millionaires are there compared to actual multi millionaires?
:lol
Frenchfred
09-22-2021, 12:35 PM
BLM are not.
Racist!
you didn't get my joke. I understood you the first time
hater
09-22-2021, 12:36 PM
If these "scientists" are the guys that conduct our "scientific" research. We are in for a world of hurt
https://twitter.com/CrystlIS/status/1440538882819256330?s=19
hater
09-22-2021, 12:37 PM
:lmao
https://twitter.com/deannafowler/status/1440506913460920334?s=19
ChumpDumper
09-22-2021, 12:49 PM
If these "scientists" are the guys that conduct our "scientific" research. We are in for a world of hurt
https://twitter.com/CrystlIS/status/1440538882819256330?s=19What's wrong with what the scientist said, hater?
Thread
09-22-2021, 12:51 PM
What's wrong with what the scientist said, hater?
...he's late, Dumper.
SnakeBoy
09-22-2021, 01:51 PM
Sounds reasonable to me...
Stop showing off with yer fancy readin past the headlines shit
hater
09-22-2021, 02:42 PM
USA! USA! USA!
https://twitter.com/BoSnerdley/status/1439951456879190017?s=19
SnakeBoy
09-22-2021, 02:43 PM
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boutons_deux
09-22-2021, 02:53 PM
Hospitals overwhelmed by covid are turning to ‘crisis standards of care.’
What does that mean?
prioritize patients for scarce resources — based largely on their likelihood of survival — and even deny treatment. The decisions affect covid and non-covid patients.
The common goal: Give health-care workers last-resort guidance to make potentially wrenching decisions.
“We only end up needing crisis standards of care when our other systems have utterly failed,”
could also force health-care workers to give beds or ventilators to those most likely to recover. If resources become extremely tight, they can consider universal do-not-resuscitate orders for hospitalized adult patients who go into cardiac arrest.
In a crisis — a hurricane, mass shooting or multicar crash, for example, as well as a pandemic surge — they must triage by prioritizing some patients over others to save the most lives.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/09/22/crisis-standards-of-care
anti-vaxxers are killing themselves and killing others.
RandomGuy
09-22-2021, 03:45 PM
the Medical Industrial Complex will pocket $100Bs from The Trump-Made Pandemic
Tallying Covid's hospital costs for complex cases
https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/8X4NmOJl-72CbuSieA_AvPKZhgOEbf08v5f-MpSdG8sOC7bFfCXT9_HJ6odBbYzvgW2r41HVjF3ZDpwvJ4IKzN Hemto3_QK9SawzWUlRJy37a9hyQsCVLLhN3skVo1K0BwCck4Ws 6rMOS2Z1Ph8hn1fhyg5t5g=s0-d-e1-ft#https://mcusercontent.com/f8609630ae206654824f897b6/images/9cb3a0cb-6af4-d623-10c2-97e08a928330.png
-- STAT email
and millions will be stressed (made ill) with debt collections, garnished bank account, liens which for some will include lifelong disability, loss of income, impoverishment
https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/brief/unvaccinated-covid-patients-cost-the-u-s-health-system-billions-of-dollars
... and there it is.
The actual monetary cost of being an anti-vaxx dumbass.
RandomGuy
09-22-2021, 03:47 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_5NDQpVQAIplyN?format=jpg&name=medium
there you go.
That sums up our health care system to a T.
Costs more
does less
we have the most "free market" health care system and all it does is be grossly inefficient.
RandomGuy
09-22-2021, 03:52 PM
Only way less than 5% of them tho. As only 5% infected require hospitalizations
pre pandemic we only had 300,000 open hospital beds in the US of all kinds, including ones that are useless in this pandemic such as neonatal ICU, drug rehab, psych, etc.
300,000 divided by .05 is 6,000,000
meaning that, at that rate, 6,000,000 people getting COVID at the same time means all those beds are full.
6,000,000 divided by 330,000,000 equals 1.8%
So all it takes to completely overwhelm the health care system is about 1.5% of the population getting a highly contagious disease at once.
You.
Stupid.
Shit.
hater
09-22-2021, 03:56 PM
Gotta read this report. Wonder if it references suspicious outbreak in Virginia retirement home in 2019 :wow
Fuck :wow
https://twitter.com/SEAHedger/status/1440673241576579086?s=19
boutons_deux
09-22-2021, 03:56 PM
there you go.
That sums up our health care system to a T.
Costs more
does less
we have the most "free market" health care system and all it does is be grossly inefficient.
Capitalism's Medical Industry Complex use health care a pretext to suck wealth out of Americans.
Actual health care, or human health and lives, is of absolutely no concern to the MIC.
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Their Baby Died in the Hospital. Then Came the $257,000 Bill.
A New York family had good health insurance.
But the bills for their daughter’s care started showing up and kept coming.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/21/upshot/hospital-bills.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/21/upshot/hospital-bills.html)
boutons_deux
09-22-2021, 07:49 PM
One of the most reliable predictors of the pandemic shows decline in coming weeks (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/9/22/2053779/-America-may-be-past-the-peak-of-the-delta-wave-but-where-we-go-now-depends-on-making-good-decisions)
https://images.dailykos.com/images/989699/original/ScreenCap.jpg?1632338698
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2053779
Declining, but remaining at high level
hater
09-22-2021, 09:19 PM
pre pandemic we only had 300,000 open hospital beds in the US of all kinds, including ones that are useless in this pandemic such as neonatal ICU, drug rehab, psych, etc.
300,000 divided by .05 is 6,000,000
meaning that, at that rate, 6,000,000 people getting COVID at the same time means all those beds are full.
6,000,000 divided by 330,000,000 equals 1.8%
So all it takes to completely overwhelm the health care system is about 1.5% of the population getting a highly contagious disease at once.
You.
Stupid.
Shit.
another dumbass that has no idea how infectious diseases work :lmao
thinks everyone who contracts Covid needs a hospital bed :lol
only 5% of all infections require hospital. And for many its just a visit not a bed. Based on your "calculations" (not how infectious diseases work) if EVERYONE in US gets infected at once. Only 16,000,000 beds will needed. And again many need just visits. There is zero chance of that scenario. It's taking 2 years to infect 50 million people :lol
boutons_deux
09-22-2021, 09:28 PM
Ron DeSantis Bans Quarantine Mandates For Students Exposed To Covid,
Calls Them ‘Draconian’
the state Department of Health issued a new rule banning schools from mandating quarantines for non-symptomatic students who were in close contact with someone who tested positive for Covid-19.
DeSantis said the state would be following a “symptom-based approach to quarantining,” and called the change “long overdue.”
“Parents have the right to have their healthy kids in school,”
https://www.mediaite.com/politics/ron-desantis-bans-student-quarantine-mandates/
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"Signs and symptoms of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) may appear two to 14 days after exposure.
This time after exposure and before having symptoms is called the incubation period."
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/symptoms-causes/syc-20479963#:~:text=Signs%20and%20symptoms%20of%20cor onavirus,called%20the%20incubation%20period.
SnakeBoy
09-22-2021, 10:32 PM
Ron DeSantis Bans Quarantine Mandates For Students Exposed To Covid,
Calls Them ‘Draconian’
the state Department of Health issued a new rule banning schools from mandating quarantines for non-symptomatic students who were in close contact with someone who tested positive for Covid-19.
DeSantis said the state would be following a “symptom-based approach to quarantining,” and called the change “long overdue.”
“Parents have the right to have their healthy kids in school,”
https://www.mediaite.com/politics/ron-desantis-bans-student-quarantine-mandates/
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"Signs and symptoms of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) may appear two to 14 days after exposure.
This time after exposure and before having symptoms is called the incubation period."
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/symptoms-causes/syc-20479963#:~:text=Signs%20and%20symptoms%20of%20cor onavirus,called%20the%20incubation%20period.
:tu
Thread
09-22-2021, 10:42 PM
One of the most reliable predictors of the pandemic shows decline in coming weeks (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/9/22/2053779/-America-may-be-past-the-peak-of-the-delta-wave-but-where-we-go-now-depends-on-making-good-decisions)
https://images.dailykos.com/images/989699/original/ScreenCap.jpg?1632338698
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2053779
Declining, but remaining at high level
Nothing new that wasn't prognosticated late July-early August, bouts. They warned Biden then that the thrust would peak mid-October.
Just like they told Biden after he hijacked the White House in January (You're not going to like it, sir, but Americans are going to die. Nothing will touch it. We'll herd it out just like they did a 100 years ago.)
They'd told President Trump the same thing (You're not going to like it, Mr. President, but Americans are going to die. Nothing will touch it. We'll herd it out just like they did a 100 years ago.)
Mother fucker Biden did 4th of July what Santis in Florida did a year earlier..."We're opening up and we're not going backPERIOD"
It's been a slaughterhouse ever since.
Let us proceed...
Nathan89
09-23-2021, 12:08 AM
I remember when the leftist children of spurstalk would blame President Trump for every single death from covid. These people aren't serious people. They just have their agenda and they will do anything for power.
Frenchfred
09-23-2021, 05:29 AM
I remember when the leftist children of spurstalk would blame President Trump for every single death from covid. These people aren't serious people. They just have their agenda and they will do anything for power.
He is largely responsible since people dying are unvaccinated and he polarized the subject pretty much telling republicans not to get vaccinated. The US have one of the lowest vaccination rate among rich countries pretty much because of him. But at the end, I don't really care if maga supporters are dying, that'll raise the average IQ of the country and remove fascist from the face of the earth.
hater
09-23-2021, 05:58 AM
He is largely responsible since people dying are unvaccinated and he polarized the subject pretty much telling republicans not to get vaccinated. The US have one of the lowest vaccination rate among rich countries pretty much because of him. But at the end, I don't really care if maga supporters are dying, that'll raise the average IQ of the country and remove fascist from the face of the earth.
Fake news...
Thread
09-23-2021, 06:00 AM
I remember when the leftist children of spurstalk would blame President Trump for every single death from covid. These people aren't serious people. They just have their agenda and they will do anything for power.
You GD rights, Nathan.
& I'm holdin' 'em & that mother fucker faking it in the White House to accounts.
Let us proceed...
boutons_deux
09-23-2021, 08:00 AM
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/242599850_5565627936863548_8079005500261938455_n.j pg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=tgHjED6cODEAX8scp2A&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=4a17512840160723101772a56e2586f0&oe=61706F38
RandomGuy
09-23-2021, 08:36 AM
another dumbass that has no idea how infectious diseases work :lmao
thinks everyone who contracts Covid needs a hospital bed :lol
only 5% of all infections require hospital. And for many its just a visit not a bed. Based on your "calculations" (not how infectious diseases work) if EVERYONE in US gets infected at once. Only 16,000,000 beds will needed. And again many need just visits. There is zero chance of that scenario. It's taking 2 years to infect 50 million people :lol
:lol I very specifically said that not everyone who gets sick needs a bed. That is the underlying assumption of hte calculation, dipshit.
And yes, that is exactly how infectious diseases work. It is basic statistics and probability.
For every X number of infections there is some ratio of people who will need hospitalization.
smh
hater
09-23-2021, 08:47 AM
:lol I very specifically said that not everyone who gets sick needs a bed. That is the underlying assumption of hte calculation, dipshit.
And yes, that is exactly how infectious diseases work. It is basic statistics and probability.
For every X number of infections there is some ratio of people who will need hospitalization.
smh
No idiot its not. You are way off.
Infectious diseases dont spread over a region/country evenly. There are hotspots and cold spots. Covid doesnt check its GPS location or go through immigrations. It goes wherever it can replicate.
Thats where we are now there are hotspots that need to be watched and controlled. IMO every local region should have a circuit breaker if hospital beds.get 100% and infections are at a certain level. No choice but to locally lock down. But the #s should be clear. Not arbitrary.
Think of New Zealand system. Except NZ wants zero cases which is insane. The limit should be just enough cases to overwhelm hospitals but notncompletely collapse them. Much higher.
DarrinS
09-23-2021, 09:10 AM
943334420693635073
DarrinS
09-23-2021, 09:12 AM
943338668995031042
DarrinS
09-23-2021, 09:13 AM
1440801647169470466
ElNono
09-23-2021, 09:52 AM
1440801647169470466
Is this where your COVID conspiracy comes from?
Feel free to put some commentary on your own post…
ElNono
09-23-2021, 09:55 AM
Fucking orange shit. :lol
We’ll, it was a 3 year moratorium… and only on US funding.
We’re not talking about research that was previously banned or anything like that…
DarrinS
09-23-2021, 09:56 AM
Is this where your COVID conspiracy comes from?
Feel free to put some commentary on your own post…
:lol
ElNono
09-23-2021, 09:59 AM
:lol
What’s so funny? You already commented on how you think the virus escaped from a lab in China and the NIH funded it. That’s a conspiracy theory at this time…
diego
09-23-2021, 10:21 AM
:lmao so much fail in this post.
Cain was 74. The others mentione ALL but Takada and Devito were younger and all multi millionaires :lol
Do you realize how many more millions of non multi millionaires are there compared to actual multi millionaires?
:lol
Your "others" don't even exist.
You're going to have to prove their both millionaires for this to go further, Williamson you got the name wrong, he was a temptation for 10 years and a Vegas singer that dude is not a millionaire.
The newscaster you also got the name wrong, don't know who the hell you're talking about
hater
09-23-2021, 11:00 AM
Your "others" don't even exist.
You're going to have to prove their both millionaires for this to go further, Williamson you got the name wrong, he was a temptation for 10 years and a Vegas singer that dude is not a millionaire.
The newscaster you also got the name wrong, don't know who the hell you're talking about
Hey if you believe millionaires are not at risk of dying of Covid thats your hill to die on :lol
Infectious diseases just dont work that way :lol
I work with big banks. Most of the VPs are.millionaires obviously. They just instituted biweekly Covid tests eventhough everyone is vaxed :lol
You do the math :lmao
boutons_deux
09-23-2021, 11:23 AM
https://images.dailykos.com/images/986890/story_image/091521.VaccineMandatescopy.jpg?1631663876
Winehole23
09-23-2021, 11:26 AM
the lack of daycare and support for women caring for sick children and family members at home puts a stitch in employment
Women over the age of 20, who already had a lower labor force participation than men, were particularly pummeled by pandemic caregiving responsibilities. In August, the labor force participation rate for those women actually dropped (https://www.businessinsider.com/womens-employment-down-august-childcare-delta-jobs-report-2021-9) from the month prior, indicating yet another impact of the Delta variant.https://www.businessinsider.com/only-half-people-lost-jobs-during-covid-going-back-work-2021-9
TimDunkem
09-23-2021, 12:09 PM
CNN saying this is probably the last major wave. That settles it people. Pandemic over. :danceclub
hater
09-23-2021, 12:11 PM
CNN saying this is probably the last major wave. That settles it people. Pandemic over. :danceclub
:tu
Time to party :tu
Winehole23
09-23-2021, 12:17 PM
Alaska oks healthcare rationing for the entire state due to COVID
Party on!
https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/2021/09/22/alaska-activates-crisis-standards-of-care-for-entire-state-to-help-covid-overwhelmed-hospitals/
Winehole23
09-23-2021, 12:19 PM
Red state death panels keep coming
hater
09-23-2021, 12:43 PM
https://twitter.com/newscomauHQ/status/1439538787634216966?s=19
Frenchfred
09-23-2021, 12:57 PM
Fake news...
Well, you learn very well how to parrot trump
hater
09-23-2021, 01:01 PM
Well, you learn very well how to parrot trump
As you learned how to spread fake news.
boutons_deux
09-23-2021, 01:19 PM
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/242724009_4347090172003926_5287220358951236972_n.j pg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=c8CPtST4wKYAX8pGOel&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=75c2f6528dbfefc339daec1d0b36b8a9&oe=617207F2
Frenchfred
09-23-2021, 01:47 PM
No idiot its not. You are way off.
Infectious diseases dont spread over a region/country evenly. There are hotspots and cold spots. Covid doesnt check its GPS location or go through immigrations. It goes wherever it can replicate.
Thats where we are now there are hotspots that need to be watched and controlled. IMO every local region should have a circuit breaker if hospital beds.get 100% and infections are at a certain level. No choice but to locally lock down. But the #s should be clear. Not arbitrary.
Think of New Zealand system. Except NZ wants zero cases which is insane. The limit should be just enough cases to overwhelm hospitals but notncompletely collapse them. Much higher.
The problem with New Zealand is its weak vaccine rate with two shots doesn't help them to get better immunity so they have to prevent the virus to spread with lockdowns.
Frenchfred
09-23-2021, 01:48 PM
As you learned how to spread fake news.
that's what people say when they have no argument. I'm surprised I have to say, I thought that you were a little bit smarter reading at some of your comments
hater
09-23-2021, 01:49 PM
that's what people say when they have no argument. I'm surprised I have to say, I thought that you were a little bit smarter reading at some of your comments
No its what I say when I read fake news.
Frenchfred
09-23-2021, 02:01 PM
No its what I say when I read fake news.
what was fake? The fact that trump politicized the issue, told people that covid was not a big deal, which led to maga morons not getting a vaccine? All of that is true
baseline bum
09-23-2021, 02:09 PM
CNN saying this is probably the last major wave. That settles it people. Pandemic over. :danceclub
Not CNN, it's Trump's FDA commissioner saying this is the last wave, pandemic over.
boutons_deux
09-23-2021, 02:20 PM
The projection I posted showed now no wave, but the numbers continuing at current, brutal levels.
As long as 10Ms refuse masks and vaccines, we're a long way from tapering down.
boutons_deux
09-23-2021, 02:34 PM
Delta COVID wave is still killing 280 Texans a day, a toll few states have seen
https://www.expressnews.com/coronavirus/article/Delta-COVID-wave-is-still-killing-280-Texans-a-16482061.php
SnakeBoy
09-23-2021, 02:37 PM
Masks Forever
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention quietly removed guidance for phasing out masks and other COVID-19 mitigation efforts in schools, cached versions of the agency's website show.
The CDC made the changes when it updated its guidance on universal indoor masking for students, staff, teachers and visitors to K-12 schools, regardless of their vaccination status, on Aug. 5.
"We believe that our state, as well as teachers unions, probably had an influence over this change," Jonathan Zachreson, an advocate for fully reopening California schools, told Fox News. "It's basically mask indefinitely in schools forever, and there is no off-ramps. So it's really disappointing to see that."
boutons_deux
09-23-2021, 07:41 PM
No, Vaccinated People Are Not ‘Just as Likely’ to Spread the Coronavirus as Unvaccinated People
This has become a common refrain among the cautious—and it’s wrong.
“vaccinated people are just as likely to spread the coronavirus.”
This misunderstanding, born out of confusing statements from public-health authorities and misleading media headlines, is a shame.
It is resulting in unnecessary fear among vaccinated people, all the while undermining the public’s understanding of the importance—and effectiveness—of getting vaccinated.
So let me make one thing clear:
Vaccinated people are not as likely to spread the coronavirus as the unvaccinated.
Even in the United States, where more than half of the population is fully vaccinated, the unvaccinated are responsible for the overwhelming majority of transmission.
To spread the coronavirus, you have to have the coronavirus.
And vaccinated people are far less likely to have the coronavirus—period.
for those instances of a vaccinated person getting a breakthrough case, yes, they can be as infectious as an unvaccinated person.
But they are likely contagious for a shorter period of time (https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.02.16.21251535v3) when compared with the unvaccinated,
and they may harbor less infectious virus (https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.12.21261991v1) overall.
Only 0.33 percent of fully vaccinated New Yorkers have been diagnosed with COVID-19.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/09/the-vaccinated-arent-just-as-likely-to-spread-covid/620161
Nathan89
09-23-2021, 11:38 PM
https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1441153687896821761?s=20
You can thank conservatives for not allowing the authoritarian leftists in America to follow in the footsteps of Australia.
ElNono
09-23-2021, 11:46 PM
They have lawyers in Australia too...
SnakeBoy
09-24-2021, 01:07 AM
Not letting vaxxed get treatment lol
1440298856441204742
Winehole23
09-24-2021, 01:43 AM
The study, involving more than 87,000 COVID-19 patients and nearly 5 million control patients in a federal database, appears online April 22 in the journal Nature.
“Our study demonstrates that up to six months after diagnosis, the risk of death following even a mild case of COVID-19 is not trivial and increases with disease severity,” said senior author Ziyad Al-Aly, MD (https://generalmedicalsciences.wustl.edu/people/ziyad-al-aly-md-fasn/), an assistant professor of medicine. “It is not an exaggeration to say that long COVID-19 — the long-term health consequences of COVID-19 — is America’s next big health crisis. Given that more than 30 million Americans have been infected with this virus, and given that the burden of long COVID-19 is substantial, the lingering effects of this disease will reverberate for many years and even decades. Physicians must be vigilant in evaluating people who have had COVID-19. These patients will need integrated, multidisciplinary care.”
The investigators showed that, after surviving the initial infection (beyond the first 30 days of illness), COVID-19 survivors had an almost 60% increased risk of death over the following six months compared with the general population. At the six-month mark, excess deaths among all COVID-19 survivors were estimated at eight people per 1,000 patients. Among patients who were ill enough to be hospitalized with COVID-19 and who survived beyond the first 30 days of illness, there were 29 excess deaths per 1,000 patients over the following six months.
https://medicine.wustl.edu/news/among-covid-19-survivors-an-increased-risk-of-death-serious-illness/
Winehole23
09-24-2021, 01:43 AM
The researchers confirmed that, despite being initially a respiratory virus, long COVID-19 can affect nearly every organ system in the body. Evaluating 379 diagnoses of diseases possibly related to COVID-19, 380 classes of medications prescribed and 62 laboratory tests administered, the researchers identified newly diagnosed major health issues that persisted in COVID-19 patients over at least six months and that affected nearly every organ and regulatory system in the body, including:
Respiratory system: persistent cough, shortness of breath and low oxygen levels in the blood.
Nervous system: stroke, headaches, memory problems and problems with senses of taste and smell.
Mental health: anxiety, depression, sleep problems and substance abuse.
Metabolism: new onset of diabetes, obesity and high cholesterol.
Cardiovascular system: acute coronary disease, heart failure, heart palpitations and irregular heart rhythms.
Gastrointestinal system: constipation, diarrhea and acid reflux.
Kidney: acute kidney injury and chronic kidney disease that can, in severe cases, require dialysis.
Coagulation regulation: blood clots in the legs and lungs.
Skin: rash and hair loss.
Musculoskeletal system: joint pain and muscle weakness.
General health: malaise, fatigue and anemia.
Frenchfred
09-24-2021, 01:56 AM
Not letting vaxxed get treatment lol
1440298856441204742
:clap
SnakeBoy
09-24-2021, 02:15 AM
:clap
Why do you think that is good?
hater
09-24-2021, 05:38 AM
Why do you think that is good?
:lmao he cant read :lol
Frenchfred
09-24-2021, 05:58 AM
Why do you think that is good?
get the vaccine and you won't have any problems and you won't saturate the hospitals.
Frenchfred
09-24-2021, 06:00 AM
:lmao he cant read :lol
Is this literal? Because if I couldn't read, I certainly wouldn't be able to write and I'm right now. Or was it a poor attempt at humor in which case you should take some classes because you suck at it.
hater
09-24-2021, 06:36 AM
get the vaccine and you won't have any problems and you won't saturate the hospitals.
You missed the part where if you still happen to get sick. No monoclonals for you because youre vaxed :lol
boutons_deux
09-24-2021, 08:06 AM
mab = $2000
vaccine = $20
you gulled, paranoid RWNJs are fucking stupid
Winehole23
09-24-2021, 08:35 AM
if hospitals and schools can't be ventilated, maybe the air can be filtered
1440997839665041413
hater
09-24-2021, 10:33 AM
:tu :tu :tu
Would instantly move there.but too cold
:tu
https://twitter.com/LOKenyon/status/1441360994421207052?s=19
hater
09-24-2021, 10:34 AM
:tu
https://twitter.com/ChipotleChipot3/status/1441406520953090048?s=19
ChumpDumper
09-24-2021, 11:09 AM
:tu :tu :tu
Would instantly move there.but too cold
:tu
https://twitter.com/LOKenyon/status/1441360994421207052?s=19:lol you've been advocating restrictions all along.
hater
09-24-2021, 11:11 AM
:lol you've been advocating restrictions all along.
That ship sailed when this became endemic, Nancypants :lol
Pandemic is over. Time to party :tu
ChumpDumper
09-24-2021, 11:13 AM
That ship sailed when this became endemic, Nancypants :lol
Pandemic is over. Time to party :tu:lmao you were advocating restrictions a week ago.
Winehole23
09-24-2021, 11:25 AM
hater sez: Biden has failed to protect us :cry
then hater turns around and sez: there's nothing to be done, let's party!
same old two faced hater
ChumpDumper
09-24-2021, 11:29 AM
what do you think Biden should do differently?
Mask, travel, congregations. Shut it a down. A la March 2020
:lmao hater
Winehole23
09-24-2021, 12:02 PM
believe it or not, masking helps to curb transmission of respiratory viruses
1441446191498076161
hater
09-24-2021, 12:02 PM
:lmao you were advocating restrictions a week ago.
Restrictions to what? Be specific.
hater
09-24-2021, 12:03 PM
hater sez: Biden has failed to protect us :cry
then hater turns around and sez: there's nothing to be done, let's party!
same old two faced hater
Yup Biden is killing the most vulnerable. If you over 65 or sick you should be really worried about that Biden tbqh
We aint stopping Biden bodycount ma jig.
Dont you even think about it
ChumpDumper
09-24-2021, 12:08 PM
Restrictions to what? Be specific.
Mask, travel, congregations. Shut it a down. A la March 2020
:lmao hater
hater
09-24-2021, 12:18 PM
:lmao hater
I wasnt calling for that. I said Biden should do this if he wants to stop his killing spree.
Reading is fundamental ma jig :tu
Back to the topic. Pandemic over. Time to partay :tu
ChumpDumper
09-24-2021, 12:21 PM
I wasnt calling for that.:lmao
You were calling for Biden to do that.:tu
hater
09-24-2021, 12:56 PM
:lmao
You were calling for Biden to do that.:tu
If he wants to stop killing ppl thats what he can do :tu
Pandemic is over. Time to partay :tu
ChumpDumper
09-24-2021, 12:57 PM
If he wants to stop killing ppl thats what he can do :tu
Pandemic is over. Time to partay :tuSo you want to kill more people.:lol
With the pandemic.
Because it's not over.
:lmao hater
hater
09-24-2021, 01:07 PM
So you want to kill more people.:lol
With the pandemic.
Because it's not over.
:lmao hater
Its endemic. We can close down to save those old geezers and sick. Or not. Up to Joe.
Looks like Joe likes killing folk
ChumpDumper
09-24-2021, 01:10 PM
Its endemic. We can close down to save those old geezers and sick. Or not. Up to Joe.
Looks like Joe likes killing folkYou like killing folk more than he does.:tu
:lmao hater
hater
09-24-2021, 01:44 PM
:lmao still calling them breakout cases :lol :lmao :lol
https://twitter.com/LiveOnTheChat/status/1441423559516213248?s=20
hater
09-24-2021, 01:45 PM
You like killing folk more than he does.:tu
:lmao hater
Biden is killing folk. not me ma jig
SnakeBoy
09-24-2021, 01:47 PM
get the vaccine and you won't have any problems and you won't saturate the hospitals.
:lmao he cant read :lol
Sounds about right :lol
hater
09-24-2021, 01:49 PM
the annoying fat woman has covid :lol
https://twitter.com/LiveOnTheChat/status/1441461229894078475?s=20
hater
09-24-2021, 01:56 PM
Holy shit!!!
:lmao.:lol :lmao :lol :lol
https://twitter.com/MZHemingway/status/1441464771195203591?s=19
hater
09-24-2021, 02:19 PM
:lmao
https://twitter.com/NewDayForNJ/status/1441444873190707204?s=19
boutons_deux
09-24-2021, 02:23 PM
The evidence on masks is getting even better — here's what it tells us
after controlling for other factors, countries with cultural norms or policies that supported mask-wearing saw weekly per capita coronavirus mortality increase 16% during outbreaks,
compared with a 62% weekly increase in countries without mask-wearing norms (https://dx.doi.org/10.4269%2Fajtmh.20-1015).
Policymakers and public health officials now have evidence from laboratories, models, observations and real-world trials that support mask-wearing to reduce respiratory diseases, including COVID-19.
https://www.alternet.org/2021/09/evidence-for-masks/
ChumpDumper
09-24-2021, 03:33 PM
killing folk
You sound turned on.
hater
09-24-2021, 04:51 PM
Lol chump..
Linking 2 completely unrelated posts.
:lol turned on DMC posting about him :lol
ChumpDumper
09-24-2021, 05:12 PM
Lol chump.
You sound turned on.
:lmao still calling them breakout cases :lol :lmao :lol
https://twitter.com/LiveOnTheChat/status/1441423559516213248?s=20
Thoughts and prayers
boutons_deux
09-24-2021, 07:59 PM
COVID-19 may impair men’s sexual performance
Men may be six times more likely to develop brief or long-term erectile dysfunction after contracting the virus.
The vaccine can prevent this.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/covid-19-may-impair-mens-sexual-performance
DarrinS
09-24-2021, 08:02 PM
Holy shit!!!
:lmao.:lol :lmao :lol :lol
https://twitter.com/MZHemingway/status/1441464771195203591?s=19
:lol
Close call for Behar -- she's 78.
boutons_deux
09-24-2021, 08:05 PM
9 vaccinated Montana nursing home residents dead
after GOP governor banned vax mandates for healthcare workers
https://www.rawstory.com/media-library/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpbWFnZSI6I mh0dHBzOi8vYXNzZXRzLnJibC5tcy8yNzUzNjczMC9vcmlnaW4 uanBnIiwiZXhwaXJlc19hdCI6MTY3MjE3MDgxN30.PyaagHIu3 UOrTJepqYDRTDObVU-y00yPLTX548ZH18M/image.jpg?width=1200&height=645
Greg Gianforte, signed the nation's only ban on employers requiring vaccination for employees. This has prevented even nursing homes and medical facilities from requiring vaccination,
The law he signed, which banned long-term care facilities from requiring staff to get vaccinated, may have been fatal in one Montana town.
"Ten residents of Libby Care Center in Lincoln County died in August as a result of a COVID-19 outbreak that started at the end of July," KPAX-TV reported.
"The company believes the virus got into the facility through an unvaccinated Certified Nursing Assistant."
https://www.rawstory.com/montana-vaccine-ban-long-term-care
DarrinS
09-24-2021, 08:08 PM
^doesn't bode well for the vaccine
boutons_deux
09-24-2021, 08:14 PM
https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/s960x960/242871937_1634857413567975_1713974431082266749_n.j pg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=3r6cguOyWXgAX8oTzWu&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=d519195d20c1ddd55cff2dd0c9b038b4&oe=6175F279
ChumpDumper
09-24-2021, 09:09 PM
^doesn't bode well for the vaccineEspecially if the virus is shoved directly up old people's asses-- but you keep rooting for COVID.:tu
DarrinS
09-24-2021, 09:15 PM
Especially if the virus is shoved directly up old people's asses-- but you keep rooting for COVID.:tu
Didn't realize that was a point of entry. :lol
I'm not rooting for covid. I've just accepted it as an endemic virus.
hater
09-24-2021, 09:17 PM
:lol
Close call for Behar -- she's 78.
:lmao
hater
09-24-2021, 09:17 PM
Especially if the virus is shoved directly up old people's asses-- but you keep rooting for COVID.:tu
Fake news
ChumpDumper
09-24-2021, 09:20 PM
Didn't realize that was a point of entry. :lolFigure of speech. Caregivers are in very close contact with nursing home patients, if you need that explained to you. Not that you give a shit.
I'm not rooting for covid. I've just accepted it as an endemic virus.And you root for every story that supports your pretending there is nothing that can be done to mitigate COVID at all.:tu
ChumpDumper
09-24-2021, 09:20 PM
Fake newsYou actively root against vaccines.:tu
DarrinS
09-24-2021, 09:38 PM
And you root for every story that supports your pretending there is nothing that can be done to mitigate COVID at all.:tu
The last stage of grief is ....?
Thread
09-24-2021, 09:42 PM
Figure of speech. Caregivers are in very close contact with nursing home patients, if you need that explained to you. Not that you give a shit.
And you root for every story that supports your pretending there is nothing that can be done to mitigate COVID at all.:tu
"a piece of gauze proved worthless."
- a hundred years ago.
- a hundred years later.
hater
09-24-2021, 10:54 PM
You actively root against vaccines.:tu
Fake news
Nathan89
09-25-2021, 12:52 AM
https://twitter.com/RitaPanahi/status/1441547602487508993?s=20
The authoritarian left only wants the government to have guns.
Winehole23
09-25-2021, 02:01 AM
wrong thread
boutons_deux
09-25-2021, 07:18 AM
Even Mild Cases of COVID May Leave a Mark on the Brain
The new findings, although preliminary, are raising concerns about the potential long-term effects of COVID-19.
The team found marked differences in gray matter ... between those who had been infected with COVID-19 and those who had not.
Specifically, the thickness of the gray matter tissue in brain regions known as
the frontal and temporal lobes was reduced
in the COVID-19 group, differing from the typical patterns seen in the group that hadn’t experienced COVID-19.
In the general population, it is normal to see some change in gray matter volume or thickness over time as people age, but
the changes were larger than normal in those who had been infected with COVID-19.
Interestingly, when the researchers separated the
individuals who had severe enough illness to require hospitalization, the results were the same as for those who had experienced milder COVID-19.
That is, people who had been infected with COVID-19 showed a loss of brain volume even when the disease was not severe enough to require hospitalization.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/even-mild-cases-of-covid-may-leave-a-mark-on-the-brain/
So Confederate/red states allowing the pandemic to run towards herd immunity, in addition to killing 1000s unnecessarily, aka homicide, are damaging their citizens brains, aging their brains/dumbing them down even further.
"hey man, owning the libs is priority. Our politics more important than our voters health and lives"
boutons_deux
09-25-2021, 07:40 AM
Ivermectin believers have become 'radicalized' and now advocate 'inhaling food-grade hydrogen peroxide'
The problem these groups are encountering, writes Collins, is that their followers have quickly learned that ivermectin alone won't do the trick.
"Obviously, keep taking the ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, the ivermectin groups say," writes Collins.
"But also gargle iodine.
Buy a nebulizer and inhale food-grade hydrogen peroxide.
Anything but the vaccine."
"Hydrogen peroxide ... can be poisonous (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2658134/) to humans if swallowed in strong enough concentrations."
https://www.rawstory.com/ivermectin-2655171156
====================
Can I use hydrogen peroxide solution to disinfect coronavirus?
A straight 3% hydrogen peroxide solution takes out rhinovirus – which is tougher to kill than coronavirus – in six to eight minutes, and
so should be at least as quick in disinfecting coronavirus
https://www.uchealth.org/today/ins-and-outs-of-disinfecting-coronavirus/#:~:text=A%20straight%203%25%20hydrogen,quick%20in %20disinfecting%20coronavirus.
corona virus is a systemic infection, so killing it in the mouth, throat, lungs isn't much help. It's everywhere
H2O2 is unstable and easily degrades to H2O, releasing the oxidizing O molecule which is disinfecting agent.
That's why H2O2 is sold in opaque containers. Light energy will break it down.
==========================
First Aid (H2O2 exposure)
Eye Contact Immediately flush with large amounts of water for at least 30minutes, lifting upper and lower lids. Remove contactlenses, if worn, while flushing. Seek medical attention immediately.
Skin Contact Quickly remove contaminated clothing. Immediately wash contaminated skin with large amounts of water. Seek medical attention.
Inhalation Remove the person from exposure.
Begin rescue breathing (using universal precautions) if breathing has stopped and CPR if heart action has stopped.
Transfer promptly to a medical facility.
Medical observation is recommended for 24 to 48 hours afterover exposure, as pulmonary edema may be delayed.
https://nj.gov/health/eoh/rtkweb/documents/fs/1015.pdf
Thread
09-25-2021, 07:46 AM
Even Mild Cases of COVID May Leave a Mark on the Brain
The new findings, although preliminary, are raising concerns about the potential long-term effects of COVID-19.
The team found marked differences in gray matter ... between those who had been infected with COVID-19 and those who had not.
Specifically, the thickness of the gray matter tissue in brain regions known as
the frontal and temporal lobes was reduced
in the COVID-19 group, differing from the typical patterns seen in the group that hadn’t experienced COVID-19.
In the general population, it is normal to see some change in gray matter volume or thickness over time as people age, but
the changes were larger than normal in those who had been infected with COVID-19.
Interestingly, when the researchers separated the
individuals who had severe enough illness to require hospitalization, the results were the same as for those who had experienced milder COVID-19.
That is, people who had been infected with COVID-19 showed a loss of brain volume even when the disease was not severe enough to require hospitalization.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/even-mild-cases-of-covid-may-leave-a-mark-on-the-brain/
>>>>>>>>>So Confederate/red states<<<<<<<<< allowing the pandemic to run towards herd immunity, in addition to killing 1000s unnecessarily, aka homicide, are damaging their citizens brains, aging their brains/dumbing them down even further.
"hey man, owning the libs is priority. Our politics more important than our voters health and lives"
California: 69,000 dead.
New York: 56,000 dead.
Pennsylvania: 30,000 dead.
New Jersey: 28,000 dead.
Georgia: 26,000 dead.
Illinois: 28,000 dead.
& counting, kids.
Thread
09-25-2021, 08:00 AM
Even Mild Cases of COVID May Leave a Mark on the Brain
The new findings, although preliminary, are raising concerns about the potential long-term effects of COVID-19.
The team found marked differences in gray matter ... between those who had been infected with COVID-19 and those who had not.
Specifically, the thickness of the gray matter tissue in brain regions known as
the frontal and temporal lobes was reduced
in the COVID-19 group, differing from the typical patterns seen in the group that hadn’t experienced COVID-19.
In the general population, it is normal to see some change in gray matter volume or thickness over time as people age, but
the changes were larger than normal in those who had been infected with COVID-19.
Interestingly, when the researchers separated the
individuals who had severe enough illness to require hospitalization, the results were the same as for those who had experienced milder COVID-19.
That is, people who had been infected with COVID-19 showed a loss of brain volume even when the disease was not severe enough to require hospitalization.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/even-mild-cases-of-covid-may-leave-a-mark-on-the-brain/
>>>>>>>>>So Confederate/red states<<<<<<<<< allowing the pandemic to run towards herd immunity, in addition to killing 1000s unnecessarily, aka homicide, are damaging their citizens brains, aging their brains/dumbing them down even further.
"hey man, owning the libs is priority. Our politics more important than our voters health and lives"
Active Cases:::
California: 2 million.
New York: 297,000
Georgia: 419,000
Michigan: 204,000
Washington: 369,000
New Jersey: 104,000
Pennsylvania: 107,000
Illinois: 125,000
A 2% kill rate=80,000 dead American in those states, daddy.
pgardn
09-25-2021, 08:16 AM
Thread again reaffirms the presidents power in making a virus a political object.
Orange man was very effective in many ways, this was one. Create division over a biological phenomena.
History will put it on him. As it should be. And Thread will not be allowed to flip a coin for results, no matter how hard he tries.
Just accept the world is more complex than you want it to be.
In the end, you will go down easier. Relax. And smell the richness.
No need to struggle, you will only make the angst worse.
Thread
09-25-2021, 08:21 AM
Thread again reaffirms the presidents power in making a virus a political object.
Orange man was very effective in many ways, this was one. Create division over a biological phenomena.
History will put it on him. As it should be. And Thread will not be allowed to flip a coin for results, no matter how hard he tries.
Just accept the world is more complex than you want it to be.
In the end, you will go down easier. Relax. And smell the richness.
No need to struggle, you will only make the angst worse.
You ain't taken (it) back yet, dad.
Chop/chop!!!
pgardn
09-25-2021, 08:47 AM
You ain't taken (it) back yet, dad.
Chop/chop!!!
There is nothing for me to take back Pops.
I did not give it in the first place.
Winehole23
09-25-2021, 10:24 AM
off by a factor of 25
Study falsely showing 1 in 1,000 risk of heart inflammation after mRNA vaccines 'weaponized' online
https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/covid-19-vaccine-study-error-anti-vaxxers-1.6188806
Winehole23
09-25-2021, 10:25 AM
theres no such thing as "the science" or "science tells us"
boutons_deux
09-25-2021, 10:28 AM
" Australia, China, Hong Kong, Korea, New Zealand and Taiwan have scrupulously followed.
Their deaths rates per million are a tiny fraction of the US death rate.
All those countries have suffered fewer than 50 deaths per million population (https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus), or less than one-40th of the US death rate.
If the US had kept deaths to 50 per million rather than the actual 2,048 deaths per million,
the US would have saved 650,000 lives from Covid-19."
https://www.laprogressive.com/the-us-death-rate/
USA under Repug homicidal MIS-governance is a Failed State
boutons_deux
09-25-2021, 10:32 AM
Andy Borowitz (https://www.facebook.com/andyborowitz?__cft__[0]=AZWdDqTnuJ2N-1FtoCQyPhLwT3acF5rSMQ14Fe3kgGed8UQjUTTUzAOGli4d7mb RlaWLfvFPjVVNln7NpayeULhMo3iuQRJBZUWXSZIXviSpiY4ir 57Q7OI9qUd-t1H2FZcBNPoNxCbdgeA1QHQsEXHUrRmZjV6Y4aOQyeXQwwz7QK JXzx8PRrL5AnBF3haqlQE&__tn__=-UC%2CP-R)
Fauci Says Horse Tranquilizer Could Help Silence Rand Paul
boutons_deux
09-25-2021, 10:35 AM
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/242940172_1464729250586492_6206015732317963314_n.j pg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=dbeb18&_nc_ohc=_gg_1KPP0esAX85Nd2l&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=8cf74ab3798f8bd7c4077b1f335080b2&oe=6174D41C
Winehole23
09-25-2021, 10:53 AM
non-medical measures can save lives
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FAEIkfPUUAUzsfc?format=jpg&name=medium
Winehole23
09-25-2021, 11:27 AM
hospitalization and death are only two of the life-changing results of COVID infection
So even at the low-end estimate of 10 percent, that means millions of people in the U.S. and the world are "long-haulers," facing chronic symptoms that can impair their ability to work, exercise, or lead a normal life. Doctors who treat long COVID patients say the costs of both of their future care and lost productivity could be staggering. "I don't think anyone truly understands the magnitude of this," said Denyse Lutchmansingh, who oversees the Post-COVID-19 Recovery Program at Yale–New Haven Hospital. "The majority of my patients are in the prime of their work lives, and they're debilitated."https://theweek.com/feature/briefing/1005244/the-cost-of-long-covid?utm_campaign=afternoon_newsletter_20210925
DarrinS
09-25-2021, 11:30 AM
the annoying fat woman has covid :lol
https://twitter.com/LiveOnTheChat/status/1441461229894078475?s=20
Apparently, both were false positives
ChumpDumper
09-25-2021, 11:33 AM
Sunny Hostin is in the running for GOAT daytime personality name.
Thread
09-25-2021, 01:40 PM
Apparently, both were false positives
That fuck Navarro is a real fuck. She only breaks out in the Mexican tone when it serves her position. She needs (19) and that right soon.
Winehole23
09-25-2021, 02:42 PM
let's party!
1441642979630805003
hater
09-25-2021, 08:40 PM
let's party!
1441642979630805003
:tu
Winehole23
09-26-2021, 01:07 AM
hater and a sociopath
Thread
09-26-2021, 08:49 AM
let's party!
1441642979630805003
You've had 3 months to get them there MASH units up and running, and to pull anchor on that hospital ship in NY Harbor and send it South, then West, then North.
Remember, you made President Trump do all that 2 years ago come January.
Chop/chop!!!
monosylab1k
09-26-2021, 08:57 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FALJBsiVcAA59S1?format=jpg&name=large
:lmao
pgardn
09-26-2021, 08:58 AM
You've had 3 months to get them there MASH units up and running, and to pull anchor on that hospital ship in NY Harbor and send it South, then West, then North.
Remember, you made President Trump do all that 2 years ago come January.
Chop/chop!!!
Healthcare was PROMISED to be fixed in 2016. By an orange buffoon.
Then, "whoever thought healthcare would be so difficult" and he backed out.
Thats your guy. Promises made while ill-informed, give up on it and build a porous wall and dont talk about health care again.
But make sure we know about a big beautiful great wall of China... that is also a curiosity and never worked out. Monuments to stupid that take a hell of a lot of work and money.
Thread
09-26-2021, 09:00 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FALJBsiVcAA59S1?format=jpg&name=large
:lmao
Just do a DNA match.
Thread
09-26-2021, 09:00 AM
Healthcare was PROMISED to be fixed in 2016. By an orange buffoon.
Then, "whoever thought healthcare would be so difficult" and he backed out.
Thats your guy. Promises made while ill-informed, give up on it and build a porous wall and dont talk about health care again.
But make sure we know about a big beautiful great wall of China... that is also a curiosity and never worked out. Monuments to stupid that take a hell of a lot of work and money.
You ain't taken (it) back yet.
Chop/chop!!!
boutons_deux
09-26-2021, 09:01 AM
Anti-Vaxxers Now Accusing Hospital Physicians Of 'Murder'
Anti-vaxxers have taken conspiracy theories to a new level with their latest attempt to
convince unvaccinated COVID patients to leave hospital intensive care units.
Ivermectin enthusiasts and anti-vaxxers have also been spreading misinformation in Facebook groups telling COVID positive individuals to
"stay away from hospitals and instead try increasingly dangerous at-home treatments."
"the escalation in mistrust" of the scientific community and medical professionals.
"We were down to four Covid patients two months ago.
In this surge, we've had 40 to 50 patients with Covid on four different ICU services, 97 percent of them unvaccinated," said Ely.
"We were making headway, and now we're just losing really, really badly.
There's something that's happening on the internet, and it's dramatically increasing steam."
"It's vigilante medicine:
medicine being practiced by laypeople who are reading groups created by other laypeople in echo chambers and silos that,
likely, someone in the anti-vax movement is profiting from,"
https://www.nationalmemo.com/anti-vax-republican-governos-2655173664
pgardn
09-26-2021, 09:03 AM
hater and a sociopath
he whined like he actually cared about people dying in Afghanistan.
Thread
09-26-2021, 09:05 AM
Anti-Vaxxers Now Accusing Hospital Physicians Of 'Murder'
Anti-vaxxers have taken conspiracy theories to a new level with their latest attempt to
convince unvaccinated COVID patients to leave hospital intensive care units.
Ivermectin enthusiasts and anti-vaxxers have also been spreading misinformation in Facebook groups telling COVID positive individuals to
"stay away from hospitals and instead try increasingly dangerous at-home treatments."
"the escalation in mistrust" of the scientific community and medical professionals.
>>>>>>>>>"We were down to four Covid patients two months ago.<<<<<<<<<
In this surge, we've had 40 to 50 patients with Covid on four different ICU services, 97 percent of them unvaccinated," said Ely.
"We were making headway, and now we're just losing really, really badly.
There's something that's happening on the internet, and it's dramatically increasing steam."
"It's vigilante medicine:
medicine being practiced by laypeople who are reading groups created by other laypeople in echo chambers and silos that,
likely, someone in the anti-vax movement is profiting from,"
https://www.nationalmemo.com/anti-vax-republican-governos-2655173664
>>>>>>>>>"We were down to four Covid patients two months ago.<<<<<<<<<
That was 1 month (incubation period) after mother fucker Biden decreed on 4 July 2021..."We're opening up and we're not going back."
It's been a slaughterhouse ever since.
Winehole23
09-26-2021, 09:11 AM
public incoherence and politics running over scientists and scientific process were hallmarks of Trump's predecessor.
continuity, not change tbh.
Biden’s chaotic messaging on Covid-19 boosters is pitting the White House against the government’s scientific advisers (https://www.statnews.com/2021/09/24/biden-covid-19-boosters-pitting-white-house-against-scientific-advisers/)
Thread
09-26-2021, 09:18 AM
public incoherence and politics running over scientists and scientific process were hallmarks of Trump's predecessor.
continuity, not change tbh.
Biden’s chaotic messaging on Covid-19 boosters is pitting the White House against the government’s scientific advisers (https://www.statnews.com/2021/09/24/biden-covid-19-boosters-pitting-white-house-against-scientific-advisers/)
...that's a ruse, an accommodation twixt Biden & MSM to (escort) him thru this perilous time. Get him thru to the other side as (whole) as they can deliver him. Started on 4 July 2021 when he opened up. (They) knew it was going to be a massacre but there was no other choice. They'd told President Trump we'd have to herd thru it. And they told mother fucker Biden the exact-same-damn-thing..."We'll have to herd thru it, sir, unless you care to divulge that (plan)."
It's that chickens have come home to roost thingy, Winester.
They're home.
boutons_deux
09-26-2021, 09:25 AM
the booster guidance is clear
why is the press trashing Biden, again?
boutons_deux
09-26-2021, 09:26 AM
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/242676488_5577053239054351_2028604978504012972_n.j pg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=pVCrINY3tL0AX9WvoLp&tn=jEpkMlVpwYodFUBh&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=ea33dbc4f0b586c19b825a2496a402f7&oe=61764C85
Thread
09-26-2021, 09:27 AM
the booster guidance is clear
why is the press trashing Biden, again?
...that's a ruse, an accommodation twixt Biden & MSM to (escort) him thru this perilous time. Get him thru to the other side as (whole) as they can deliver him. Started on 4 July 2021 when he opened up. (They) knew it was going to be a massacre but there was no other choice. They'd told President Trump we'd have to herd thru it. And they told mother fucker Biden the exact-same-damn-thing..."We'll have to herd thru it, sir, unless you care to divulge that (plan)."
It's that chickens have come home to roost thingy, bouts.
They're home.
Winehole23
09-26-2021, 09:38 AM
healthcare was already broken, but COVID, ignorance and indifference brought us rationing and death panels.
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pgardn
09-26-2021, 09:44 AM
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/242676488_5577053239054351_2028604978504012972_n.j pg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=pVCrINY3tL0AX9WvoLp&tn=jEpkMlVpwYodFUBh&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=ea33dbc4f0b586c19b825a2496a402f7&oe=61764C85
"ENSLAVED"
snowflakes...they are enslaved because they dont understand.
Winehole23
09-26-2021, 09:56 AM
as the surge recedes in the south, the midwest and northeast US are on deck
1441972642735693826
Thread
09-26-2021, 12:46 PM
as the surge recedes in the south, the midwest and northeast US are on deck
1441972642735693826
Like I said a month ago, and several times since...You'd have to be out of your fucking mind to step into a school. That goes for every man, woman and child.
Though you won't hear this on MSM, but, many thousands of schools have closed and locked the doors. thank Christ.
hater
09-26-2021, 08:45 PM
https://twitter.com/TheQuartering/status/1439417189594017792?s=19
hater
09-26-2021, 08:48 PM
ISRAEL! ISRAEL! ISRAEL!
https://twitter.com/aginnt/status/1439441026804903937?s=19
hater
09-26-2021, 08:51 PM
Good article
https://twitter.com/heidiology/status/1441782753763069953?s=19
DarrinS
09-26-2021, 08:55 PM
Meh, natural infection 27x better immunity.
ElNono
09-26-2021, 09:37 PM
ISRAEL! ISRAEL! ISRAEL!
https://twitter.com/aginnt/status/1439441026804903937?s=19
Is that like 80 people? :lol
ElNono
09-26-2021, 09:41 PM
Good article
https://twitter.com/heidiology/status/1441782753763069953?s=19
What does NOT WORKING means? Preventing infection? It's preventing hospitalization and deaths, that sounds like working just fine.
Also, on the article linked:
The majority of new cases each day are among school-age children, most of whom are not vaccinated against COVID-19. As of Thursday morning, 36,822 of the active COVID cases were among school-age children, making up more than 56% of all current cases. Another 90,000 students were in mandatory quarantine after exposure to a COVID patient.
Looks like the vaccine is not the problem there, it's getting a vaccine that works safely on children.
DarrinS
09-26-2021, 10:00 PM
Hard to tell about vaccine efficacy. From what I read, its pretty good against hospitalization and death.
DarrinS
09-26-2021, 10:02 PM
Natural immunity is especially good.
DarrinS
09-26-2021, 10:03 PM
Natural plus vax? Fughetabaoutit.
ElNono
09-26-2021, 10:09 PM
Natural immunity is especially good.
Natural immunity is especially good if you survive. While it's true that only 2 in 100 unvaxxed people die of this thing, there's no reason (other than very specific conditions) not to take a vaccine and reduce that number significantly.
DarrinS
09-26-2021, 10:39 PM
Natural immunity is especially good if you survive. While it's true that only 2 in 100 unvaxxed people die of this thing, there's no reason (other than very specific conditions) not to take a vaccine and reduce that number significantly.
People should get vaccinated. Especially if they've never been infected.
hater
09-27-2021, 12:07 AM
Natural immunity is especially good if you survive. While it's true that only 2 in 100 unvaxxed people die of this thing, there's no reason (other than very specific conditions) not to take a vaccine and reduce that number significantly.
99% survival rate is oretty darn good. :tu
ElNono
09-27-2021, 12:12 AM
99% survival rate is oretty darn good. :tu
99.9% survival rate is better.
Over 300 million people, 99% survival rate is 3 million dead. 99.9% is 300k dead. It's a big fucking difference.
hombre
09-27-2021, 12:26 AM
99% survival rate is oretty darn good. :tu
How’s paying 100% of that hospital bill going to treat you?
hombre
09-27-2021, 12:27 AM
hater and a sociopath
it’s sad, he can’t connect with other people.
Winehole23
09-27-2021, 01:20 AM
99.9% survival rate is better.
Over 300 million people, 99% survival rate is 3 million dead. 99.9% is 300k dead. It's a big fucking difference.innumerate hater :lol
hater
09-27-2021, 05:51 AM
99.9% survival rate is better.
Over 300 million people, 99% survival rate is 3 million dead. 99.9% is 300k dead. It's a big fucking difference.
Yes its better.
99% still pretty darn good :tu
hater
09-27-2021, 05:53 AM
How’s paying 100% of that hospital bill going to treat you?
Lol what hospital, nancy
Winehole23
09-27-2021, 08:11 AM
Yes its better.
99% still pretty darn good :tufor an airborne disease roughly as contagious as chicken pox?
you don't know how diseases work either, Nancy :lol
hater
09-27-2021, 10:35 AM
for an airborne disease roughly as contagious as chicken pox?
you don't know how diseases work either, Nancy :lol
Cats out of the bag. Its endemic.
No about of bitching is gonna change that, Nancy. Enjoy life and stop being.scared :tu
Trill Clinton
09-27-2021, 10:41 AM
Wayne Dupree, Anti-vax right wing radio host gets COVID-19. Claims to be treating it with robitussin, zinc and pineapple juice
https://www.reddit.com/r/LeopardsAteMyFace/comments/puzz19/?utm_content=title&utm_medium=post_embed&utm_name=7f91b9fc4b51476887d40770fa0676fb&utm_source=embedly&utm_term=puzz19
Thread
09-27-2021, 10:49 AM
99.9% survival rate is better.
Over 300 million people, 99% survival rate is 3 million dead. 99.9% is 300k dead. It's a big fucking difference.
California has over 2 million active cases, El.
New York has over 297k active cases.
Georgia has over 419k active cases.
Michigan has over 204k active cases.
Washington has over 369k active cases.
New Jersey has over 104k actives cases.
Pennsylvania has over 107k active cases.
Illinois has over 125k active cases.
Run those numbers, dad.
boutons_deux
09-27-2021, 10:51 AM
Mike Lee introduces 9 anti-vaccine bills to exempt anyone 'on basis of a personal belief'
to undermine President Joe Biden's ability to mandate Covid-19 vaccines.
the bills would allow the United States government to be sued over vaccine mandates and
allow anyone to opt-out of mandates on "the basis of a personal belief."
https://www.rawstory.com/mike-lee-vaccines/
Thread
09-27-2021, 10:53 AM
Mike Lee introduces 9 anti-vaccine bills to exempt anyone 'on basis of a personal belief'
to undermine President Joe Biden's ability to mandate Covid-19 vaccines.
the bills would allow the United States government to be sued over vaccine mandates and
allow anyone to opt-out of mandates on "the basis of a personal belief."
https://www.rawstory.com/mike-lee-vaccines/
Excellent. Make the row that cocksucker squatting in the White House has to hoe the hardest row he's ever hoed.
boutons_deux
09-27-2021, 11:01 AM
Trump administration assumed 'everyone was going to get COVID anyway':
Interview with ex-FDA chief reveals
former President Donald Trump's FDA Commissioner revealed that
the administration was dismissive of any efforts to fight COVID-19
because they assumed "everyone" was going to get it anyway, and
they essentially wanted to get it over with.
"They said,
'Well, we just need to get kids back in the class
because everybody is going to get this virus at some point or another,
and it's going to spread wildly,
and there's no way to contain it.'
It stuck with me how casual they were about that (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/from-china-to-trump-the-bungling-of-the-coronavirus-testing-crisis-started-at-the-beginning-report/),
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-failures-herd-immunity
what did Gottlieb do to counter the homicidal insanity?
Thread
09-27-2021, 11:09 AM
Trump administration assumed 'everyone was going to get COVID anyway':
Interview with ex-FDA chief reveals
former President Donald Trump's FDA Commissioner revealed that
the administration was dismissive of any efforts to fight COVID-19
because they assumed "everyone" was going to get it anyway, and
they essentially wanted to get it over with.
"They said,
'Well, we just need to get kids back in the class
because everybody is going to get this virus at some point or another,
and it's going to spread wildly,
and there's no way to contain it.'
It stuck with me how casual they were about that (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/from-china-to-trump-the-bungling-of-the-coronavirus-testing-crisis-started-at-the-beginning-report/),
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-failures-herd-immunity
what did Gottlieb do to counter the homicidal insanity?
Precisely.
Then Santis in Florida came to that realization over a year ago..."We're opening up and we're not going back."
A year later, this past 4th of July...MF Biden: "We're opening up and we're not going back." Result: California has over 2 million active cases. New York has over a 1/4 million active cases. Georgia has almost a 1/2 million actives cases.
These men were all told Day One:::"People, Americans are going to die, and there is nothing you can do to stop it, sir. Nothing will touch it. We'll have to herd it out like we did a 100 years ago."
Let us proceed...
boutons_deux
09-27-2021, 11:16 AM
COVID-19 pandemic cut life expectancy by most since World War Two
Life expectancy fell by more than six months compared with 2019 in 22 of the 29 countries analysed in the study, which spanned Europe, the United States and Chile. There were reductions in life expectancy in 27 of the 29 countries overall.
There were greater drops in life expectancy for men than women in most countries,
with the largest decline in American men, :lol white superior Macho Men die to own the libs :lol
who saw life expectancy drop by 2.2 years relative to 2019.
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/covid-19-pandemic-cut-life-expectancy-by-most-since-world-war-two-study-2021-09-26/
Winehole23
09-27-2021, 11:29 AM
Cats out of the bag. Its endemic.
No about of bitching is gonna change that, Nancy. Enjoy life and stop being.scared :tuI'm not scared personally -- I've been working in public every day since this started -- and I do enjoy my life. All that's beside the point.
Public health has to do with reasonably protecting people from contagious disease and protecting the system of public health from breaking down under the pressure of an uncontrolled pandemic. We've failed to do both.
Massive incompetence, fearmongering about vaccines and mitigation and misgovernance have made the US the world leader in caseload and deaths. It has already led to 1000 school closures and healthcare rationing in at least two US states. Doing nothing portends more of the same for the indefinite future.
Your "do nothing, let's party" crew are reckless sadists and sociopaths, tbh.
Winehole23
09-27-2021, 11:34 AM
this thread very nearly puts a finger on it
1442181281115168773
hater
09-27-2021, 11:51 AM
I'm not scared personally -- I've been working in public every day since this started -- and I do enjoy my life. All that's beside the point.
Public health has to do with reasonably protecting people from contagious disease and protecting the system of public health from breaking down under the pressure of an uncontrolled pandemic. We've failed to do both.
Massive incompetence, fearmongering about vaccines and mitigation and misgovernance have made the US the world leader in caseload and deaths. It has already led to 1000 school closures and healthcare rationing in at least two US states. Doing nothing portends more of the same for the indefinite future.
Your "do nothing, let's party" crew are reckless sadists and sociopaths, tbh.
Agree that our democratic.party is do nothing. So are the Repugs tbqh
Both parties are shit and anyone who disagrees and says one party is good is a brainwashed muppet
Winehole23
09-27-2021, 11:57 AM
Agree that our democratic.party is do nothing. So are the Repugs tbqh
Both parties are shit and anyone who disagrees and says one party is good is a brainwashed muppetwho says so?
shadowboxing again? :lol
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09-27-2021, 11:58 AM
this thread very nearly puts a finger on it
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The Winester...race hustling of a Monday morning.
Winehole23
09-27-2021, 11:58 AM
"do nothing, let's party!" hater solemnly denouncing do nothing politcians :lol
Ef-man
09-27-2021, 12:03 PM
"do nothing, let's party!" hater solemnly denouncing do nothing politcians :lol
Yup, Hater is doing a bothsides routine.
Glad that Biden is president, not trump.
:tu
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09-27-2021, 12:05 PM
Yup, Hater is doing a bothsides routine.
Glad that Biden is president, not trump.
:tu
Trump President.
Not Clinton.
hater
09-27-2021, 12:30 PM
https://twitter.com/LilChomskyX/status/1440506265944297479?s=19
Adam Lambert
09-27-2021, 12:34 PM
LOL "segregation."
You can't stop being black. You can stop being unvaccinated. Quite easily, too.
Winehole23
09-27-2021, 12:41 PM
racism is hater's white flag.
common right wing deflection tactic tbh.
hater
09-27-2021, 12:55 PM
racism is hater's white flag.
common right wing deflection tactic tbh.
Not me. BLM sayis its racist:
https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1441579695435288576?s=19
BLM is against mandates. Are you standing beside BLM or are you a racist?
Adam Lambert
09-27-2021, 12:57 PM
Maybe BLM coming out against mandates will get more MAGAtards vaccinated.
Winehole23
09-27-2021, 01:10 PM
Not me. BLM sayis its racist:
https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1441579695435288576?s=19
BLM is against mandates. Are you standing beside BLM or are you a racist?there's no doubt administrative rules and laws are not applied neutrally in a country as racist as the USA.
otoh, casually using BLM and black people as rhetorical crutches to accuse others of racism merely to distract from your other embarrassing takes in this thread, is cynically and pathetically racist.
hater
09-27-2021, 02:03 PM
otoh, casually using BLM and black people as rhetorical crutches to accuse others of racism merely to distract from your other embarrassing takes in this thread, is cynically and pathetically racist.
Thats a pretty racist statement tbqh.
Not surprising from a Bidentard tbqh
Shame
Winehole23
09-27-2021, 02:10 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FASlC_DXMAQ7gES?format=jpg&name=medium
Winehole23
09-27-2021, 02:11 PM
Thats a pretty racist statement tbqh.
Not surprising from a Bidentard tbqh
Shamenamecalling
your 2nd white flag on this page
DarrinS
09-27-2021, 02:28 PM
I've been working in public every day since this started -- and I do enjoy my life.
You at work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJDXUSbDqqw
Winehole23
09-27-2021, 02:36 PM
You at work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJDXUSbDqqwat the moment, no.
day off
Adam Lambert
09-27-2021, 02:36 PM
You at work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJDXUSbDqqw
:lol Imagine thinking this video is a good look for anti-maskers.
hater
09-27-2021, 02:36 PM
You at work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJDXUSbDqqw
:lmao
Winehole23
09-27-2021, 04:45 PM
Fwiw, I don't police anyone else's masking. Nothing wrong with recommending it though -- it does mitigate the spread of respiratory viruses.
spurraider21
09-27-2021, 04:54 PM
You at work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJDXUSbDqqw
darrin goes on youtube and searches for "mask cult"
SnakeBoy
09-27-2021, 05:18 PM
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DarrinS
09-27-2021, 05:28 PM
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Even if they have documented natural immunity?
spurraider21
09-27-2021, 05:33 PM
Even if they have documented natural immunity?
vaccination + natural immunity provides greater protection than just natural immunity
if they're not going to minimize the risk for the people they're supposed to be taking care of, then they have no business being there. unless they have a hyper specific reason why the vaccine poses an undue risk to them
DarrinS
09-27-2021, 05:40 PM
vaccination + natural immunity provides greater protection than just natural immunity
if they're not going to minimize the risk for the people they're supposed to be taking care of, then they have no business being there. unless they have a hyper specific reason why the vaccine poses an undue risk to them
Natural immunity is superior to vaccine immunity.
Winehole23
09-27-2021, 05:41 PM
Natural immunity is superior to vaccine immunity.also, significantly riskier to acquire.
DarrinS
09-27-2021, 05:46 PM
also, significantly riskier to acquire.
True, but why make people who already paid that price get vaccinated?
spurraider21
09-27-2021, 05:47 PM
Natural immunity is superior to vaccine immunity.
doesnt contradict anything i just said
vaccination + natural immunity provides greater protection than just natural immunity
if they're not going to minimize the risk for the people they're supposed to be taking care of, then they have no business being there. unless they have a hyper specific reason why the vaccine poses an undue risk to them
spurraider21
09-27-2021, 05:48 PM
True, but why make people who already paid that price get vaccinated?
because it further minimizes the risk to that person, and by proxy, people they are treating
DarrinS
09-27-2021, 05:56 PM
because it further minimizes the risk to that person, and by proxy, people they are treating
Your argument is weak because the naturally immune are MORE immune than vaxxed only.
boutons_deux
09-27-2021, 05:57 PM
also, significantly riskier to acquire.
https://www.immunology.org/sites/default/files/BSI_UKCIC_resource_NaturalvVaccineImmunity.png
boutons_deux
09-27-2021, 05:58 PM
New CDC Study:
Vaccination Offers Higher Protection than Previous COVID-19 Infection
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s0806-vaccination-protection.html
boutons_deux
09-27-2021, 05:59 PM
CDC:
COVID-19 Reinfections Among Unvaccinated Twice as Likely Than Among Vaccinated
Study authors concluded that ‘to reduce their likelihood for future infection,
all eligible persons should be offered COVID-19 vaccine,
even those with previous SARS-CoV-2 infection.’
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-08-06/cdc-covid-19-reinfections-among-unvaccinated-twice-as-likely-than-among-vaccinated
DarrinS
09-27-2021, 06:07 PM
New CDC Study:
Vaccination Offers Higher Protection than Previous COVID-19 Infection
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s0806-vaccination-protection.html
"In today’s MMWR, a study of COVID-19 infections in Kentucky among people who were previously infected with SAR-CoV-2 shows that unvaccinated individuals are more than twice as likely to be reinfected with COVID-19 than those who were fully vaccinated after initially contracting the virus. These data further indicate that COVID-19 vaccines offer better protection than natural immunity alone and that vaccines, even after prior infection, help prevent reinfections."
spurraider21
09-27-2021, 06:12 PM
Your argument is weak because the naturally immune are MORE immune than vaxxed only.
my argument isnt weak because both of the following are true:
- somebody who is unvaxxed without natural immunity is at more risk than somebody who is vaxxed without natural immunity
and
- somebody who is unvaxxed with natural immunity is at more risk than somebody who is vaxxed with natural immunity
getting a vaccination doesnt present a significant risk to anybody or the people around them (minus extreme fringe cases which i already pointed out in an earlier post). trying to get natural immunity absolutely does
think its perfectly fair to want health workers who are doing what they reasonably can to mitigate harm to the people they're treating
Isitjustme?
09-27-2021, 06:20 PM
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hater
09-27-2021, 06:27 PM
vaccination + natural immunity provides greater protection than just natural immunity
if they're not going to minimize the risk for the people they're supposed to be taking care of, then they have no business being there. unless they have a hyper specific reason why the vaccine poses an undue risk to them
You dont need greater protection. You dont need superhuman protection. Decent protection is sufficient and science says natural immunity provides this.
Follow the science :tu
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