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Cuck Ross
11-10-2021, 06:59 PM
Lol you're a moron.
Lmao a SnakeBoy pretending he knows what's going on
:lmao

DarrinS
11-10-2021, 07:00 PM
Lol you're a moron.
Lmao a SnakeBoy pretending he knows what's going on

Its a mystery. :lol

Hope you crack the case.

Cuck Ross
11-10-2021, 07:06 PM
Its a mystery. :lol

Hope you crack the case.
Lol you're a moron.
Lmao a Darrins pretending he knows what's going on

DarrinS
11-10-2021, 07:12 PM
Lol you're a moron.
Lmao a Darrins pretending he knows what's going on

:lol

pgardn
11-10-2021, 07:30 PM
China using zero covid policy. So yes this is an outbreak for them, Nancypants.

And no Im not worried. Unlike you I dont double mask at the drive thru :lol

Your not worried for humanity and saving lives...
Yet you are.
Such a back and forth hypocrite.
By far the worst on this board.

And YOU were all about masking along with your fear of needles, you wrapped yourself in masks like a mummy for Halloween ya Bolivian retard.

hater
11-10-2021, 07:47 PM
Your not worried for humanity and saving lives...
Yet you are.
Such a back and forth hypocrite.
By far the worst on this board.

And YOU were all about masking along with your fear of needles, you wrapped yourself in masks like a mummy for Halloween ya Bolivian retard.

Urine garden with another pool of urine spewed

Didnt read

SnakeBoy
11-10-2021, 07:59 PM
Further evidence that masks and lockdowns work and are highly effective :tu

What kind of mask are you wearing these days?

pgardn
11-10-2021, 08:21 PM
Urine garden with another pool of urine spewed

Didnt read

Sure you read it.
Its the same stuff as always.
Fake humanitarian.

hater
11-10-2021, 08:22 PM
What kind of mask are you wearing these days?

ElNono:


https://twitter.com/SAMLeeLoves__/status/1451336082470019075?s=19

hater
11-10-2021, 08:23 PM
Sure you read it.
Its the same stuff as always.
Fake humanitarian.

Didnt read this either Urine.

pgardn
11-10-2021, 08:23 PM
What kind of mask are you wearing these days?

Air queen
Think its South Korean.

What do you wear on airplanes?

hater
11-10-2021, 08:24 PM
Sure you read it.
Its the same stuff as always.
Fake humanitarian.

Didnt read this either Urine.

pgardn
11-10-2021, 08:26 PM
Didnt read this either Urine.

Yes you did.
Put me on ignore you big Bolivian baby fat if you really dont want to read it.

Blake
11-10-2021, 10:34 PM
Its a mystery. :lol

Hope you crack the case.

:lol it's no mystery, it's right there. But lol you pretending too.

ElNono
11-10-2021, 10:35 PM
What does it say about the vaccine?

Well, how many were hospitalized and died? We're missing that info.

The vaccine won't completely prevent infection, but it will drastically reduce how long you're infected, your odds of landing in the hospital or dying.

Isitjustme?
11-10-2021, 11:32 PM
:lmao Pfizer CEO wants to lock up anyone talking shit about his products :lmao :lol :lmao

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1458130215826251779?s=20

https://twitter.com/FRANK_SINATRA7/status/1458130495158558729?s=19

Whoa you shared a tweet with more than two likes... Did someone hack your account??

DMC
11-11-2021, 12:47 AM
Well, how many were hospitalized and died? We're missing that info.

The vaccine won't completely prevent infection, but it will drastically reduce how long you're infected, your odds of landing in the hospital or dying.

If everyone gets the virus, the vaccine had a 100% breakthrough with that group. There's nothing to say they would have died either way.

ElNono
11-11-2021, 12:53 AM
If everyone gets the virus, the vaccine had a 100% breakthrough with that group. There's nothing to say they would have died either way.

The vaccine trains your body to attack the infection effectively when the virus is already in your body. That implies it won't prevent infection, it will help you defend against it. Most vaccines work that way.

The fact they do help you eliminate it quicker is what reduces R0 from > 1 to, eventually and hopefully, < 1.

DMC
11-11-2021, 01:49 AM
The vaccine trains your body to attack the infection effectively when the virus is already in your body. That implies it won't prevent infection, it will help you defend against it. Most vaccines work that way.

The fact they do help you eliminate it quicker is what reduces R0 from > 1 to, eventually and hopefully, < 1.

"However, data show fully vaccinated persons are less likely than unvaccinated persons to acquire SARS-CoV-2, and infections with the Delta variant in fully vaccinated persons are associated with less severe clinical outcomes. Infections with the Delta variant in vaccinated persons potentially have reduced transmissibility than infections in unvaccinated persons, although additional studies are needed." -CDC

"Less likely" must mean there are fewer instances where vaccinated people tested positive after exposure vs unvaccinated people. Are you saying that these vaccinated people were just as "infected" but tested negative?

If so, does the vaccine create more asymptomatic carriers?

ElNono
11-11-2021, 03:29 AM
"However, data show fully vaccinated persons are less likely than unvaccinated persons to acquire SARS-CoV-2, and infections with the Delta variant in fully vaccinated persons are associated with less severe clinical outcomes. Infections with the Delta variant in vaccinated persons potentially have reduced transmissibility than infections in unvaccinated persons, although additional studies are needed." -CDC

"Less likely" must mean there are fewer instances where vaccinated people tested positive after exposure vs unvaccinated people. Are you saying that these vaccinated people were just as "infected" but tested negative?

If so, does the vaccine create more asymptomatic carriers?

We know there's an asymptomatic incubation period for the virus that takes almost a week. The viral load during that period goes from very low to very high.

I don't know for sure, but I suspect that in the case of vaccinated people your immune system knows (thanks to the vaccine) that this is a bad actor and fights it right away, whereas the immune system on unvaccinated people might not kick in until the viral load is high.

I also don't know how precise PCR tests and the like are in detecting small viral loads. When we actually end up detecting an infection (which officially means you 'acquired' COVID), might not be when the infection actually started.

As far as the vaccine, at least in the Pfizer and Moderna cases, there's no actual virus in them, so you couldn't detect the virus due to vaccination.

hater
11-11-2021, 07:36 AM
We know there's an asymptomatic incubation period for the virus that takes almost a week. The viral load during that period goes from very low to very high.

I don't know for sure, but I suspect that in the case of vaccinated people your immune system knows (thanks to the vaccine) that this is a bad actor and fights it right away, whereas the immune system on unvaccinated people might not kick in until the viral load is high.

I also don't know how precise PCR tests and the like are in detecting small viral loads. When we actually end up detecting an infection (which officially means you 'acquired' COVID), might not be when the infection actually started.

As far as the vaccine, at least in the Pfizer and Moderna cases, there's no actual virus in them, so you couldn't detect the virus due to vaccination.

You seem to not know a lot ma nig :tu

Maybe best answer to vaccines effectiveness with transmission is "we just dont know" :tu

Cheers

DarrinS
11-11-2021, 09:09 AM
Fat people can't catch a break


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34744161/

Blake
11-11-2021, 10:12 AM
"However, data show fully vaccinated persons are less likely than unvaccinated persons to acquire SARS-CoV-2, and infections with the Delta variant in fully vaccinated persons are associated with less severe clinical outcomes. Infections with the Delta variant in vaccinated persons potentially have reduced transmissibility than infections in unvaccinated persons, although additional studies are needed." -CDC

"Less likely" must mean there are fewer instances where vaccinated people tested positive after exposure vs unvaccinated people. Are you saying that these vaccinated people were just as "infected" but tested negative?

If so, does the vaccine create more asymptomatic carriers?

Do you really not understand how vaccines work?

pgardn
11-11-2021, 10:51 AM
If everyone gets the virus, the vaccine had a 100% breakthrough with that group. There's nothing to say they would have died either way.

You have no clue how vaccines are suppose to work.

We have been at this for over 1000 pages and time and time again this has been explained and you still dont get it.
Go back and talk about clips for semiautomatic rifles, it makes much more sense.

hater
11-11-2021, 02:05 PM
https://twitter.com/rfsquared/status/1458397192343990273?s=19

Blake
11-11-2021, 03:19 PM
Looks like squid games

ElNono
11-11-2021, 03:25 PM
You seem to not know a lot ma nig :tu

Maybe best answer to vaccines effectiveness with transmission is "we just dont know" :tu

Cheers

I'm just honest. That I personally don't know doesn't mean science does not. I just don't read every paper out there.

hater
11-11-2021, 03:29 PM
I'm just honest. That I personally don't know doesn't mean science does not. I just don't read every paper out there.

Who told you the science knows the definitive on vaccinated covid transmission???

DMC
11-11-2021, 03:31 PM
We know there's an asymptomatic incubation period for the virus that takes almost a week. The viral load during that period goes from very low to very high.

I don't know for sure, but I suspect that in the case of vaccinated people your immune system knows (thanks to the vaccine) that this is a bad actor and fights it right away, whereas the immune system on unvaccinated people might not kick in until the viral load is high.

I also don't know how precise PCR tests and the like are in detecting small viral loads. When we actually end up detecting an infection (which officially means you 'acquired' COVID), might not be when the infection actually started.

As far as the vaccine, at least in the Pfizer and Moderna cases, there's no actual virus in them, so you couldn't detect the virus due to vaccination.

I am not sure you addressed my comments.

If what you're saying is true, then vaccinated people can be infected at the same rate as the unvaccinated. The CDC says otherwise.

DMC
11-11-2021, 03:32 PM
I don't get how "science" became an entity instead of a field and method of learning.

ElNono
11-11-2021, 03:47 PM
Who told you the science knows the definitive on vaccinated covid transmission???

Didn't make that claim. What I said is science has both much larger and more granular information about virus transmissions in general and covid in particular, and unlike you, I won't pretend to speak for the entire body of work in that area.


I don't get how "science" became an entity instead of a field and method of learning.

It's a method of research as well, which produces copious amount of information. When somebody says "science says", they're referring to that information, not science as a person or entity.

Blake
11-11-2021, 03:50 PM
I don't get how "science" became an entity instead of a field and method of learning.

Well yeah, you're a lot slower than you think.

hater
11-11-2021, 03:51 PM
Didn't make that claim. What I said is science has both much larger and more granular information about virus transmissions in general and covid in particular, and unlike you, I won't pretend to speak for the entire body of work in that area.



It's a method of research as well, which produces copious amount of information. When somebody says "science says", they're referring to that information, not science as a person or entity.

So we dont know.

Thanks :tu

ElNono
11-11-2021, 03:53 PM
I am not sure you addressed my comments.

If what you're saying is true, then vaccinated people can be infected at the same rate as the unvaccinated. The CDC says otherwise.

The CDC says the same or otherwise depending on what they mean by 'acquire', which is not totally clear to me, thus why I singled it out.

Does 'acquire' mean when the virus entered the body (are tests that accurate to detect that?) or when your average test came back positive?

These are the kind of small details that make a big difference in statements like that.

ElNono
11-11-2021, 03:54 PM
So we dont know.

Thanks :tu

Apology accepted :tu

hater
11-11-2021, 03:57 PM
Apology accepted?

Sure. I accept your apology.

Cheers :tu

ElNono
11-11-2021, 04:28 PM
Sure. I accept your apology.

Cheers :tu

hater folds :tu

hater
11-11-2021, 05:04 PM
pretty please. Accept my apology. You were correct. We dont know the definitive on vaccinated covid transmission

Ok.

Accepted. Apology accepted.


Cheers :tu

ElNono
11-11-2021, 07:18 PM
lulz, looks like I hit a nerve. Post editing and shit...

You do you, hater :tu

hater
11-11-2021, 07:39 PM
thanks for accepting my apology. I was wrong we dont know the efficacy of vaccines vs transmission.

:tu np ma nig

Cheers :tu

ElNono
11-11-2021, 08:15 PM
I changed hater's post, cool beans

You're welcome :tu

DMC
11-11-2021, 09:13 PM
Big of you El, no one knows everything (except RG).

DMC
11-11-2021, 09:16 PM
The CDC says the same or otherwise depending on what they mean by 'acquire', which is not totally clear to me, thus why I singled it out.

Does 'acquire' mean when the virus entered the body (are tests that accurate to detect that?) or when your average test came back positive?

These are the kind of small details that make a big difference in statements like that.

The only way the CDC can know someone has acquired the virus is if that person tests positive. If you're saying people have the virus but aren't testing positive, I'd have to ask how you have that information.

Ef-man
11-11-2021, 10:06 PM
FAQ: COVID-19 Data and Surveillance
Frequently Asked Questions

Updated July 23, 2021

What is a COVID-19 case, including a “probable case”? How is reporting of probable cases handled by jurisdictions?

A COVID-19 case is an individual who has been determined to have COVID-19 using a set of criteria known as a case definition. Cases can be classified as suspect, probable, or confirmed. CDC counts include probable and confirmed cases and deaths. Suspect cases and deaths are excluded.

The case classifications for COVID-19 are described in an updated interim COVID-19 position statement and case definition issued by the Council of State and Territorial Epidemiologists. A probable case or death is defined as any one of the following:

-Meets clinical criteria AND epidemiologic linkage with no confirmatory laboratory testing performed for SARS-CoV-2

-Meets presumptive laboratory evidence

-Meets vital records criteria with no confirmatory laboratory evidence for SARS-CoV-2

Any cases and deaths classified as probable are included in CDC case counts. The same applies to any cases and deaths classified as confirmed.

DMC
11-11-2021, 10:16 PM
Pretty sure asymptomatic positive cases meet none of those criteria.

Ef-man
11-11-2021, 10:54 PM
The U.S Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has stopped reporting mild and asymptomatic COVID-19 "breakthrough" cases amongst vaccinated people, leading many to ask why.

On May 1, the CDC announced it would transition "from monitoring all reported vaccine breakthrough cases to focus on identifying and investigating only hospitalized or fatal cases due to any cause."

"This shift will help maximize the quality of the data collected on cases of greatest clinical and public health importance," the CDC wrote.

Put another way, the CDC decided to focus on only the most severe cases. This focus, they imply, will provide health researchers and officials with important information about the populations hit hardest by the ongoing pandemic.

On July 27, CDC director Rochelle Walensky defended her agency against criticism that it was no longer providing enough public information about breakthrough infections. She said the CDC would continually release data from "cohort studies" on "tens of the thousands" of people who have been infected after being vaccinated.

why-did-cdc-stop-counting-mild-asymptomatic-breakthrough-covid-cases (https://www.newsweek.com/why-did-cdc-stop-counting-mild-asymptomatic-breakthrough-covid-cases-1616802)

ElNono
11-12-2021, 12:00 AM
The only way the CDC can know someone has acquired the virus is if that person tests positive. If you're saying people have the virus but aren't testing positive, I'd have to ask how you have that information.

There are some studies and cases about it, some of them linked in this article, for example:
https://khn.org/news/article/they-tested-negative-for-covid-still-they-have-long-covid-symptoms/

But, I mean, besides the quality of tests differing due to manufacturing, etc, it would be good to know how precise even the best PCR test is, the best Antibody test is, etc.

Obviously, by the time you tested positive, the virus is already in your body, but the question is how long has it been there? Hours, days? And how much of the virus do you really need to have in order to trigger a positive result?

I don't have answers to these questions, and frankly I haven't found much info out there either. I could definitely be wrong and the tests might be able to detect even very minuscule amounts of the virus. I just haven't seen a definitive answer to that.

hater
11-12-2021, 11:41 AM
Interesting developments.

Europe about to go in some lockdowns and Austria about to implement lockdown on Unvaxed. Meaning virtual house arrest on ALL unvaccinated population.

Denmark does a 180 and now implememts Covid passports.

And Russia bends the knee. They go from one of the most liberal Covid law countries to the most strict.


https://twitter.com/rightsinrussia/status/1459195757932814348?s=19

https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1459198721225330696?s=19

Some smokescreens for something big IMO


Something big is gonna happen in next months...

hater
11-12-2021, 11:42 AM
https://twitter.com/IndianExpress/status/1459164477698445322?s=19

Shuts getting real

hater
11-12-2021, 11:43 AM
https://twitter.com/thekevinryder/status/1458217581417050114?s=19

hater
11-12-2021, 11:44 AM
https://twitter.com/talkRADIO/status/1459089529013424133?s=19

hater
11-12-2021, 11:48 AM
:lmao Germany. They use the strictest Covid passports in the world and even require KN95 masks in public :lmao :lol :lmao

https://twitter.com/DrEliDavid/status/1458706717986934786?s=19


Im going to Florida n8gs :lol

hater
11-12-2021, 12:48 PM
Damns my homey in Germany just told me something happened in Germany.

They are already discussing going back to FULL LOCKDOWN and there are tons of police out on the streets. Looks like the vaccines effect drops to near zero (or maybe even less than 0? :wow) at this time

This explains what happened to Israel a few months back. And why they are getting so angry at unvaccinated

They want to blame the unvaccinated on the vaccines huge dropoff and want to prepare for mandatory booster for all. :wow

Worst case scenario nigs. We are back to square 1. So Vax Fascism will.be installed :wow

Calling it now.

DarrinS
11-12-2021, 01:17 PM
They need to hurry up and give EUA to Pfizermectin. :lol

hater
11-12-2021, 01:22 PM
They need to hurry up and give EUA to Pfizermectin. :lol

Naturally immune ftmfw

hater
11-12-2021, 03:00 PM
:lmao Russias collapse is hilarious. Now their politicians saying Covid papers are as important as passports :lmao

Vodka drinking idiots :lmao

Bald geriatric midget as a leader :lmao :lol

SnakeBoy
11-12-2021, 04:19 PM
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Ef-man
11-12-2021, 04:25 PM
:lmao Russias collapse is hilarious. Now their politicians saying Covid papers are as important as passports :lmao

Vodka drinking idiots :lmao

Bald geriatric midget as a leader :lmao :lol

Putin bad now?
:lol

hater
11-12-2021, 05:03 PM
Putin bad now?
:lol

Hes been a loser midget for a while tbqh.not sure where u been

Also stupid russians now also making their war distractions because their people are about to drown in a covid cesspool


So they will try to distract by pretending to be at attacked.

But so are the trash europeans and americans tbqh.


All governments now distracting with war drums cause of their ineptitude with Covid.


Chinese seem to be getting the upper hand now tbqh although they also seem to be pretending to be tough guys in China sea

Interesting times

Would not be surpised if idiots decide to come to blows just to maintqin contol of their respective shithole countries

hater
11-12-2021, 05:07 PM
1458824576775950340

:lmao chickens coming home to roost

Called it :tu

hater
11-12-2021, 05:33 PM
:lmao :lmao

PKKliavwvZI

hater
11-12-2021, 05:37 PM
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hater
11-12-2021, 09:37 PM
:lmao cant believe the US court system the only thing standind.between vax fascism and freedom :lol

https://twitter.com/LJCenter/status/1459304448518332424?s=19

USA! UsA! UsA! USA!

:tu

DarrinS
11-12-2021, 11:45 PM
I think my 17 y.o. son has breakthrough infection. I'll find out in a couple of days.

Winehole23
11-13-2021, 01:56 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FECoBwtVEAEo2qe?format=jpg&name=900x900

Winehole23
11-13-2021, 01:57 AM
2100 deaths, test positivity back above 5%

Looks like an upswing.

ElNono
11-13-2021, 02:07 AM
Interesting developments.

...

Something big is gonna happen in next months...

WW XXXIII?

Winehole23
11-13-2021, 04:24 AM
I think my 17 y.o. son has breakthrough infection. I'll find out in a couple of days.Sorry to hear that, best wishes for a speedy recovery

hater
11-13-2021, 09:26 AM
https://twitter.com/JPS_CH4/status/1459251942245470211?s=19

hater
11-13-2021, 09:29 AM
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1458105333902192641?s=19

Ef-man
11-13-2021, 09:59 AM
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1458105333902192641?s=19

It is on, WW58!

Ian Cheong the incel called it!

Somehow, his absolute fear of women has heightened his ability to detect war! :wow

Winehole23
11-13-2021, 11:11 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FD-Cw84WYAQXyvz?format=jpg&name=large

Winehole23
11-13-2021, 11:16 AM
Netherlands locks down

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/12/partial-lockdown-in-netherlands-amid-record-covid-cases

Winehole23
11-13-2021, 12:02 PM
Germany advises people to avoid or cancel big events.

Great timing by Brandon on lifting the travel ban.

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-angela-merkel-europe-germany-health-07596d4f924ed4937715a3c5bf5252a8

boutons_deux
11-13-2021, 10:14 PM
old white unvaccinated asshole, 82 days in hospital

comes home physically and cognitively DAMAGED

https://images.dailykos.com/images/1005990/large/4.jpg?1636406950

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2061515

Will these gulled, ignorant God-lovers ever learn God doesn't give a shit?

Fauci, OTOH, DOES GIVE A SHIT

"God helps those who help themselves"

Winehole23
11-14-2021, 12:02 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEGVlvAWQAMzDuC?format=png&name=smallhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEGVu8AWYAE5VbC?format=png&name=small

Winehole23
11-14-2021, 12:06 PM
it ain't over

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Blake
11-14-2021, 01:39 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEGVlvAWQAMzDuC?format=png&name=smallhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEGVu8AWYAE5VbC?format=png&name=small

Seems like at this point, it won't be over until everyone gets it and either dies or recovers.

hater
11-14-2021, 01:48 PM
Seems like at this point, it won't be over until everyone gets it and either dies or recovers.

Why would it be over then?

ElNono
11-14-2021, 02:48 PM
Singapore Will Stop Covering the Medical Bills of Unvaccinated COVID-19 Patients

"Singapore's government has been covering the medical bills of COVID-19 patients throughout the pandemic," reports NPR. "But it says unvaccinated people will soon be on their own (https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/11/09/1053889069/singapore-medical-bills-covid-19-patients-unvaccinated-by-choice)." Those who are "unvaccinated by choice" will have to start paying for their own COVID-19 treatment starting December 8, the Ministry of Health announced on Monday, citing the strain they are putting on the nation's health care system.

"Currently, unvaccinated persons make up a sizeable majority of those who require intensive inpatient care, and disproportionately contribute to the strain on our healthcare resources," it said in a statement (https://www.moh.gov.sg/news-highlights/details/calibrated-adjustments-in-stabilisation-phase_8Nov2021)...

"Our hospitals really much prefer not to have to bill these patients at all, but we have to send this important signal, to urge everyone to get vaccinated if you are eligible," Health Minister Ong Ye Kung said on Monday.

Singapore has one of the highest vaccination rates in the world. As of Sunday, 85% of its population was fully vaccinated, and 18% had received booster shots, according to health ministry data (https://www.moh.gov.sg/news-highlights/details/update-on-local-covid-19-situation-(8-nov-2021)).

ChumpDumper
11-14-2021, 02:50 PM
:lol could hater flip-flip any more between "It's not over" and "It's party time!"?

Blake
11-14-2021, 04:49 PM
Why would it be over then?

Well by then I figure we've weeded out all the people that can't handle covid and ended up dying because of it. Most of those being unvaccinated of course.

BackHome
11-14-2021, 07:33 PM
No to many variants are coming out it's just a matter of time before a more deadlier variant comes along I give it a year or two before that happens.

baseline bum
11-14-2021, 08:16 PM
:lol could hater flip-flip any more between "It's not over" and "It's party time!"?

:lol

baseline bum
11-14-2021, 08:18 PM
No to many variants are coming out it's just a matter of time before a more deadlier variant comes along I give it a year or two before that happens.

Not sure why a deadlier variant would become the dominant strain since that would give it less chance to replicate than other strains. SARS-Cov-2's goal isn't to kill us, it's to replicate as much as possible. Now more contagious variants, sure, we'll see those pop up over and over.

pgardn
11-14-2021, 08:24 PM
No to many variants are coming out it's just a matter of time before a more deadlier variant comes along I give it a year or two before that happens.

New variants are arising all the time.
And its expected they should with something that reproduces this fast.

Is this hater's alt?

Trill Clinton
11-14-2021, 09:08 PM
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DMC
11-14-2021, 09:43 PM
No to many variants are coming out it's just a matter of time before a more deadlier variant comes along I give it a year or two before that happens.

Thanks. What would it cost to get a few more years from you?

Winehole23
11-15-2021, 01:36 PM
Inept public health policy, COVID denialism, antivaxxers and hospital staff quitting all figure in the current wave of healthcare rationing in western states.

1459816593404403721

hater
11-15-2021, 01:40 PM
Well by then I figure we've weeded out all the people that can't handle covid and ended up dying because of it. Most of those being unvaccinated of course.

There will always be sick and old you for example at some point will get sick or old. And if you catch covid....

Blake
11-15-2021, 02:39 PM
There will always be sick and old you for example at some point will get sick or old. And if you catch covid....

My parents are old, got it, lived and are vaccinated. Chances are very low at this point that they die of it now.

hater
11-15-2021, 02:49 PM
My parents are old, got it, lived and are vaccinated. Chances are very low at this point that they die of it now.

:tu

But your premise that this is over when everyone gets it is flawed. A person can get Covid again. And if that person happ3ns to be very old or sick they have a small chance of getting very sick or dying.


Just like the regular flu kills the very old/sick on a yearly basis.

I agree the pandemic is over. But Covid will be with us forever.

SnakeBoy
11-15-2021, 03:16 PM
:tu

But your premise that this is over when everyone gets it is flawed. A person can get Covid again. And if that person happ3ns to be very old or sick they have a small chance of getting very sick or dying.


Just like the regular flu kills the very old/sick on a yearly basis.

I agree the pandemic is over. But Covid will be with us forever.

We have at least another year before the pandemic is over. That is, it completes it's first pass through the population.

Then it will probably develop some type of seasonality like the other endemic respiratory viruses. But yes, ultimately everyone gets infected repeatedly.

ElNono
11-15-2021, 03:42 PM
1459852140030185473

Following the science :tu

hater
11-15-2021, 04:42 PM
Austrias greatest olympian quits political role in disgust

"I am ashamed of my country. As an Austrian Im saddened and stunned"

https://twitter.com/Die_Feenteich/status/1460318657293266945?s=19

hater
11-15-2021, 04:43 PM
https://twitter.com/aginnt/status/1459908871267536900?s=19

ElNono
11-15-2021, 05:13 PM
Austrias greatest olympian quits political role in disgust

"I am ashamed of my country. As an Austrian Im saddened and stunned"

https://twitter.com/Die_Feenteich/status/1460318657293266945?s=19


https://twitter.com/aginnt/status/1459908871267536900?s=19

:lol delicious tears

hater
11-15-2021, 05:50 PM
https://twitter.com/davidkurten/status/1459667797248774145?s=19

:lol

DMC
11-15-2021, 06:06 PM
It's borderline criminal to reduce Austria to Hitler's birthplace.

Winehole23
11-16-2021, 01:42 AM
Death and hospitalization -- though these have been terrible in the US due to our utter failure to control transmission and the gross caseload-- may not be the most significant outcomes of COVID-19. The disruption of work, leisure and society by the sequalae of infection for months and years might put the most severe outcomes in the shade in terms of cost and social impact.


1460387517656702977

Winehole23
11-16-2021, 01:59 AM
Vaccination, masking, business restrictions (including remote work) and school mitigation

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDtDFmTakAA0ika?format=jpg&name=large

Winehole23
11-16-2021, 02:03 AM
Brandon's failure to get the country vaccinated has been disastrous and will be again.

SnakeBoy
11-16-2021, 12:37 PM
Brandon's failure to get the country vaccinated has been disastrous and will be again.

Dude you're always so late to the game. I told you I did not think Failing Joe Biden could screw it up this bad. Got that wrong, Hater called it.

Almost at Trump's body count and the winter surge has barely started.

pgardn
11-16-2021, 01:26 PM
Trump set up the scene with no masking no vaccine pride.
This will go down in history as his pandemic.
Trump made sure there would never be any sort of unified PUBLIC HEALTH response.

The record of events show it and will show it in the future. You can try to change the history of how this was bungled and at the beginning we had already failed.
"Hydroxy, cant we try this Dr.?, this will go away, just around the corner"
Red team will live with the mess.
They already have, it helped them lose an election by 8 million votes to a white guy older than Trump.

Winehole23
11-16-2021, 01:54 PM
Trump set up the scene with no masking no vaccine pride.
This will go down in history as his pandemic.
Trump made sure there would never be any sort of unified PUBLIC HEALTH response.Biden failed to turn the ship and has been horrible in his own right.

Telling everyone to throw away their masks just when Delta was kicking India's ass was epic stupidity. The vaccine rollout has also been been unimpressive. I don't see any moves toward the unified public health response you're talking about. Biden sold us down the river for a political narrative -- back to normality -- much like his predecessor did.

At least he's not denying and demagoguing COVID like Trump, but that bar is so low it's practically resting on the ground.

Winehole23
11-16-2021, 03:27 PM
New cases, US, 7-day average, log scale

Midwest and Northeast leading the way.

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/covid-cases-regions-11.png

Winehole23
11-16-2021, 03:28 PM
PA now counts reinfections, which are real COVID cases, believe it or not.

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/covid-cdc-rapid-riser.png

hater
11-16-2021, 03:29 PM
Pandemic is over. Time to partay

https://twitter.com/juliezweil/status/1460646207794163717?s=19

hater
11-16-2021, 03:35 PM
https://twitter.com/TResolutist/status/1460618178934059008?s=19

Winehole23
11-16-2021, 03:43 PM
Pandemic is over. Time to partay

https://twitter.com/juliezweil/status/1460646207794163717?s=19heil, honkler

https://c.tenor.com/omJbisofB98AAAAC/pepe-clown.gif

hater
11-16-2021, 03:44 PM
heil, honkler

https://c.tenor.com/omJbisofB98AAAAC/pepe-clown.gif

Gottem :lol

Winehole23
11-16-2021, 03:53 PM
COVID is wrecking healthcare in the US


The U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics estimates that the health-care sector has lost nearly half a million workers (https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf) since February 2020. Morning Consult, a survey research company, says that 18 percent of health-care workers (https://morningconsult.com/2021/10/04/health-care-workers-series-part-2-workforce/) have quit since the pandemic began, while 12 percent have been laid off.


Morning Consult, in the same survey, found that 31 percent of the remaining health-care workers have considered leaving their employer, while the American Association of Critical-Care Nurses found that 66 percent of acute and critical-care nurses (https://www.aacn.org/newsroom/hear-us-out-campaign-reports-nurses-covid-19-reality) have thought about quitting nursing entirely. “We’ve never seen numbers like that before,” Bettencourt told me. Normally, she said, only 20 percent would even consider leaving their institution, let alone the entire profession. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/11/the-mass-exodus-of-americas-health-care-workers/620713/

SnakeBoy
11-16-2021, 05:53 PM
New cases, US, 7-day average, log scale

Midwest and Northeast leading the way.

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/covid-cases-regions-11.png


PA now counts reinfections, which are real COVID cases, believe it or not.

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/covid-cdc-rapid-riser.png

Are you planning on keeping up the play by play of what everyone who follows the science already knew was going to happen?

DMC
11-16-2021, 06:00 PM
JFK still dead

Winehole23
11-17-2021, 02:34 AM
Hospitalizations/deaths down due to vaccination, but remarkably similar this year to the last.

1460803813636456451

Winehole23
11-17-2021, 03:32 AM
Consider parosmia (https://www.healthline.com/health/parosmia-after-covid#overview) and anosmia (https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0256998), two common symptoms/sequelae.

Would you have trouble eating and drinking if food and drink smelled foul, or like nothing?

ElNono
11-17-2021, 06:16 AM
Hopeful of the new pill treatments as alternatives to people that can't get vaccinated for medical reasons.

hater
11-17-2021, 09:01 AM
https://twitter.com/fionamflanagan1/status/1460196863127265283?s=19

hater
11-17-2021, 09:03 AM
https://twitter.com/robertburke84/status/1460673012819238918?s=19

hater
11-17-2021, 09:04 AM
https://twitter.com/peterrowen_/status/1460890500634972164?s=19

hater
11-17-2021, 09:11 AM
Pandemic of the unvaxed is finished.

Pandemic of the vaxed starts.

https://twitter.com/LBB_Research/status/1459538447010467840?s=19

hater
11-17-2021, 09:12 AM
https://twitter.com/LBB_Research/status/1459538453704503298?s=19

DarrinS
11-17-2021, 10:21 AM
Hopeful of the new pill treatments as alternatives to people that can't get vaccinated for medical reasons.

Or, for anyone (vaxxed, unvaxxed, reinfected) who gets covid.

ChumpDumper
11-17-2021, 11:35 AM
https://twitter.com/LBB_Research/status/1459538453704503298?s=19

That's been explained to you, Nancy.

ChumpDumper
11-17-2021, 11:37 AM
Are you planning on keeping up the play by play of what everyone who follows the science already knew was going to happen?

Are you planning on being this pissy about it the whole time? Because I'm looking forward to that.:tu

pgardn
11-17-2021, 11:56 AM
Biden failed to turn the ship and has been horrible in his own right.

Telling everyone to throw away their masks just when Delta was kicking India's ass was epic stupidity. The vaccine rollout has also been been unimpressive. I don't see any moves toward the unified public health response you're talking about. Biden sold us down the river for a political narrative -- back to normality -- much like his predecessor did.

At least he's not denying and demagoguing COVID like Trump, but that bar is so low it's practically resting on the ground.

Orange man found and popularized a movement. Joe cant turn that so he goes with it.
Someone found and released the potential energy of stupidity. This was Trump. Its not the only issue he used to divide the country. Of course a politician is going to go with the flow. Still much rather have Biden running this thing than Trump 100x over.

pgardn
11-17-2021, 12:01 PM
We have at least another year before the pandemic is over. That is, it completes it's first pass through the population.

Then it will probably develop some type of seasonality like the other endemic respiratory viruses. But yes, ultimately everyone gets infected repeatedly.

And most people have an immune system that take care of this along with cancer cells that are constantly made in our bodies and a whole hell of a lot of other microbes which are taken care of by working immune systems. We do this sort of thing all of our lives with many nasty things. If you dont constantly have some sort of Ab's running through your lymph system and blood there is something wrong with you. If you dont have a shitload of memory cells waiting to unleash a defensive response you most likely have not lived long enough or kept yourself in a bubble.

pgardn
11-17-2021, 12:07 PM
Vaccines allow us to use OUR OWN defensive mechanisms, why dont people get this? hater?

These supposed immune boosting vitamins are huge sellers, but dont stick me with that pointy thing, immediate autism! And the pointy thing for the tattoo, thats fine. fck OSHA establishing sterile standards... Koriwhat... hypocrisy is now a desired behavior

Winehole23
11-17-2021, 12:16 PM
Dude you're always so late to the game. I told you I did not think Failing Joe Biden could screw it up this bad. Got that wrong, Hater called it.

Almost at Trump's body count and the winter surge has barely started.I didn't start talking about this just now, but go on with your crybaby self. :lol

Winehole23
11-17-2021, 12:23 PM
Do you feel deprived of acknowledgement, or was Spring of this year "too late" for me to express criticism of Biden's COVID response?

:lmao

hater
11-17-2021, 12:39 PM
:lmao Falsuchin

https://twitter.com/for_sabine/status/1461025303040516096?s=19

pgardn
11-17-2021, 01:33 PM
:lmao Falsuchin

https://twitter.com/for_sabine/status/1461025303040516096?s=19

Totally out of context per usual.
but keep them coming.

SnakeBoy
11-17-2021, 03:33 PM
Masking young children and imposing social distancing rules will impact the development of what they call the social skills.

Oregon middle school closes over safety concerns, student 'socialization' issues from year of virtual learning
https://www.foxnews.com/us/oregon-school-cancels-virtual-learning-safety

ChumpDumper
11-17-2021, 03:42 PM
Oregon middle school closes over safety concerns, student 'socialization' issues from year of virtual learning
https://www.foxnews.com/us/oregon-school-cancels-virtual-learning-safety

Anti homeschooling SnakeBoi

TeyshaBlue
11-17-2021, 05:02 PM
I know I'm not around much anymore but I got to tell you I've been vaccinated a couple of months ago and I have it now and I'm sick as hell. My wife is in the hospital fighting covid and pneumonia and the attendant lung damage. She's not doing very well. I know the vaccine is supposed to lessen the severity so we'll see but it's certainly hadn't helped my wife any. I'm sure she's some kind of outlier but it's hard being married to an outlier who's laying in the hospital bed with tubes all in her.

TeyshaBlue
11-17-2021, 05:08 PM
I don't doubt the science involved and I'm certainly not an anti-vaxxer but it seems to me we ain't exactly on top of this covid shit.

Blake
11-17-2021, 05:24 PM
https://twitter.com/robertburke84/status/1460673012819238918?s=19

Who sold him on the 93% vaccination rates in Ireland?

Blake
11-17-2021, 05:25 PM
I know I'm not around much anymore but I got to tell you I've been vaccinated a couple of months ago and I have it now and I'm sick as hell. My wife is in the hospital fighting covid and pneumonia and the attendant lung damage. She's not doing very well. I know the vaccine is supposed to lessen the severity so we'll see but it's certainly hadn't helped my wife any. I'm sure she's some kind of outlier but it's hard being married to an outlier who's laying in the hospital bed with tubes all in her.

I'm sorry to hear. Here's to hoping for a full recovery

hater
11-17-2021, 05:37 PM
I know I'm not around much anymore but I got to tell you I've been vaccinated a couple of months ago and I have it now and I'm sick as hell. My wife is in the hospital fighting covid and pneumonia and the attendant lung damage. She's not doing very well. I know the vaccine is supposed to lessen the severity so we'll see but it's certainly hadn't helped my wife any. I'm sure she's some kind of outlier but it's hard being married to an outlier who's laying in the hospital bed with tubes all in her.

Get well soon bro

And no this is not surprising at all for us few that been paying attention

It is actually common to get moderate symptoms even vaxed and its the waning immunity which after 3 or 4 months a vaxed older/sick person is almost as vulnerable as if they were unvaxed.


Look at europe now which has great vaccination rates. Look at Gibraltar. Virtually 100% vaccination and locking down.

Meanwhile Moderna and Pfizer makers making 65k every single minute from their "vaccines" and being given the keys to the planet.

ChumpDumper
11-17-2021, 06:52 PM
Get well soon bro

And no this is not surprising at all for us few that been paying attention

It is actually common to get moderate symptoms even vaxed and its the waning immunity which after 3 or 4 months a vaxed older/sick person is almost as vulnerable as if they were unvaxed.


Look at europe now which has great vaccination rates. Look at Gibraltar. Virtually 100% vaccination and locking down.

Meanwhile Moderna and Pfizer makers making 65k every single minute from their "vaccines" and being given the keys to the planet.

You could've just stopped at the first sentence.

hater
11-17-2021, 07:17 PM
Hope you all get better, Teysha

And you could have posted that instead

ChumpDumper
11-17-2021, 07:19 PM
And you could have posted that insteadI do hope he and his wife get better.

You need to try to not try so hard.

Xevious
11-17-2021, 07:26 PM
I know I'm not around much anymore but I got to tell you I've been vaccinated a couple of months ago and I have it now and I'm sick as hell. My wife is in the hospital fighting covid and pneumonia and the attendant lung damage. She's not doing very well. I know the vaccine is supposed to lessen the severity so we'll see but it's certainly hadn't helped my wife any. I'm sure she's some kind of outlier but it's hard being married to an outlier who's laying in the hospital bed with tubes all in her.
I'm sorry to hear that. I hope you both start feeling better and make a full recovery real soon.

pgardn
11-17-2021, 07:46 PM
I know I'm not around much anymore but I got to tell you I've been vaccinated a couple of months ago and I have it now and I'm sick as hell. My wife is in the hospital fighting covid and pneumonia and the attendant lung damage. She's not doing very well. I know the vaccine is supposed to lessen the severity so we'll see but it's certainly hadn't helped my wife any. I'm sure she's some kind of outlier but it's hard being married to an outlier who's laying in the hospital bed with tubes all in her.

Damn.
Im really sorry to hear this.
And I totally get this underlined.

If you live being one of the few it certainly sucks that much more.

And I really would like to ask a question that need not be answered if you dont wish to.
Do you guys think you know how, where you might have gotten it? The situation especially?
The "breakthrough" cases I know about through my parent's friends kind of tell a bit of a trend that seems to agree with some data from the US.

Ef-man
11-17-2021, 07:53 PM
I know I'm not around much anymore but I got to tell you I've been vaccinated a couple of months ago and I have it now and I'm sick as hell. My wife is in the hospital fighting covid and pneumonia and the attendant lung damage. She's not doing very well. I know the vaccine is supposed to lessen the severity so we'll see but it's certainly hadn't helped my wife any. I'm sure she's some kind of outlier but it's hard being married to an outlier who's laying in the hospital bed with tubes all in her.

I hope you both start feeling better and make a full recovery real soon!

hater
11-17-2021, 08:00 PM
I do hope he and his wife get better.

You need to try to not try so hard.

Now you say it. Good. I encouraged you to be a good citizen :tu

Cheers

ChumpDumper
11-17-2021, 08:01 PM
Now you say ut. Good. I encouraged you :tu

CheersYou keep trying really hard, Nancy.:tu

hater
11-17-2021, 08:02 PM
You keep trying really hard, Nancy.:tu

And you need to try harder. You will get it someday.

Cheers.

ChumpDumper
11-17-2021, 08:11 PM
And you need to try harder.To do what?

Cuck Ross
11-17-2021, 08:54 PM
I know I'm not around much anymore but I got to tell you I've been vaccinated a couple of months ago and I have it now and I'm sick as hell. My wife is in the hospital fighting covid and pneumonia and the attendant lung damage. She's not doing very well. I know the vaccine is supposed to lessen the severity so we'll see but it's certainly hadn't helped my wife any. I'm sure she's some kind of outlier but it's hard being married to an outlier who's laying in the hospital bed with tubes all in her.
Sorry to hear man hope you and your wife both come out okay.

spurraider21
11-17-2021, 09:04 PM
I know I'm not around much anymore but I got to tell you I've been vaccinated a couple of months ago and I have it now and I'm sick as hell. My wife is in the hospital fighting covid and pneumonia and the attendant lung damage. She's not doing very well. I know the vaccine is supposed to lessen the severity so we'll see but it's certainly hadn't helped my wife any. I'm sure she's some kind of outlier but it's hard being married to an outlier who's laying in the hospital bed with tubes all in her.
fuck, sorry to hear it

spurraider21
11-17-2021, 09:10 PM
Look at europe now which has great vaccination rates. Look at Gibraltar. Virtually 100% vaccination and locking down.
how is gibraltar locking down?

hater
11-17-2021, 09:15 PM
how is gibraltar locking down?

https://twitter.com/Humble_Analysis/status/1460409365228232706?s=19

spurraider21
11-17-2021, 09:24 PM
https://twitter.com/Humble_Analysis/status/1460409365228232706?s=19
:lmao the government cancelled their official christmas parties and you call that locking down :lmao

Ef-man
11-17-2021, 09:31 PM
:lmao the government cancelled their official christmas parties and you call that locking down :lmao

:lmao

Nothing says canceled like canceled office Christmas parties. :lmao

hater
11-17-2021, 09:56 PM
:lmao the government cancelled their official christmas parties and you call that locking down :lmao

Sorry this is happening to you

12th November 2021

Gibraltarians were urged to avoid large gatherings and strictly follow Public Health advice on Friday, as the number of Covid-19 cases on the Rock continued to rise and more hospitalisations expected too in coming days.

The Gibraltar Government stopped short of tightening rules on gatherings and mask use but said personal responsibility was vital to curtail the “exponential” increase in cases in recent days.


https://www.chronicle.gi/stark-warning-from-govt-as-covid-19-cases-continue-to-rise/


https://twitter.com/GabinJean3/status/1460177249592913920?s=19

spurraider21
11-17-2021, 10:36 PM
Sorry this is happening to you

The Gibraltar Government stopped short of tightening rules on gatherings and mask use but said personal responsibility was vital to curtail the “exponential” increase in cases in recent days.
:lmao

no tightened rules about gatherings or mask use

:lmao "locking down"

Cuck Ross
11-17-2021, 10:48 PM
how is gibraltar locking down?
Definitely not locking down but their rising case rate is pretty incredible considering their vax rate.

baseline bum
11-17-2021, 10:48 PM
I know I'm not around much anymore but I got to tell you I've been vaccinated a couple of months ago and I have it now and I'm sick as hell. My wife is in the hospital fighting covid and pneumonia and the attendant lung damage. She's not doing very well. I know the vaccine is supposed to lessen the severity so we'll see but it's certainly hadn't helped my wife any. I'm sure she's some kind of outlier but it's hard being married to an outlier who's laying in the hospital bed with tubes all in her.

Damn man, hope your wife starts doing better. Is your oxygen level ok? If it's 92% or below you might need to go in for treatment too. Is it too late for monoclonals? I know Allen West seemed to do well with them even when hospitalized for low oxygen.

spurraider21
11-17-2021, 11:00 PM
Definitely not locking down
:tu

Winehole23
11-17-2021, 11:04 PM
I know I'm not around much anymore but I got to tell you I've been vaccinated a couple of months ago and I have it now and I'm sick as hell. My wife is in the hospital fighting covid and pneumonia and the attendant lung damage. She's not doing very well. I know the vaccine is supposed to lessen the severity so we'll see but it's certainly hadn't helped my wife any. I'm sure she's some kind of outlier but it's hard being married to an outlier who's laying in the hospital bed with tubes all in her.sorry to hear that, hope you both get well soon.

diego
11-18-2021, 12:05 AM
I know I'm not around much anymore but I got to tell you I've been vaccinated a couple of months ago and I have it now and I'm sick as hell. My wife is in the hospital fighting covid and pneumonia and the attendant lung damage. She's not doing very well. I know the vaccine is supposed to lessen the severity so we'll see but it's certainly hadn't helped my wife any. I'm sure she's some kind of outlier but it's hard being married to an outlier who's laying in the hospital bed with tubes all in her.

hope you both get better, hang in there. Lots of people vaxxed or not get it, between the different vaccines and strains, public policies and enforcement, humans being social, its hard to say where the fault lies. Also there is strong indication that antigen response decreases over time hence booster shots, how many months ago was your second dose?

diego
11-18-2021, 12:13 AM
Get well soon bro

And no this is not surprising at all for us few that been paying attention

It is actually common to get moderate symptoms even vaxed and its the waning immunity which after 3 or 4 months a vaxed older/sick person is almost as vulnerable as if they were unvaxed.


Look at europe now which has great vaccination rates. Look at Gibraltar. Virtually 100% vaccination and locking down.

Meanwhile Moderna and Pfizer makers making 65k every single minute from their "vaccines" and being given the keys to the planet.

since i last mentioned it Chile (not 100% but a high vax rate) has gone from 1% positivity to 3%, but in between we had the national holiday, election season, relaxed curfew and capacity limits, and opened the borders a good bit- I think the vaccines here have held up remarkably well, im approximating the numbers but its about 65% sinovac, 20 pfizer 15 astrazeneca, 3rd booster campaign started a couple months ago, in fact im late for it, but yeah they make you mix vaccines to get a more complete immune response.

ElNono
11-18-2021, 12:52 AM
I know I'm not around much anymore but I got to tell you I've been vaccinated a couple of months ago and I have it now and I'm sick as hell. My wife is in the hospital fighting covid and pneumonia and the attendant lung damage. She's not doing very well. I know the vaccine is supposed to lessen the severity so we'll see but it's certainly hadn't helped my wife any. I'm sure she's some kind of outlier but it's hard being married to an outlier who's laying in the hospital bed with tubes all in her.

GWS!

Winehole23
11-18-2021, 03:12 AM
Boston-area wastewater detection


https://www.mwra.com/biobot/MWRAData20211117-NSGraph.JPG

https://www.mwra.com/biobot/biobotdata.htm

Winehole23
11-18-2021, 03:14 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FD5FLzuXwAI3rSv?format=png&name=4096x4096

Winehole23
11-18-2021, 04:36 AM
We've seen this movie before



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEd1aqXXwAQ05Wq?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

hater
11-18-2021, 06:31 AM
since i last mentioned it Chile (not 100% but a high vax rate) has gone from 1% positivity to 3%, but in between we had the national holiday, election season, relaxed curfew and capacity limits, and opened the borders a good bit- I think the vaccines here have held up remarkably well, im approximating the numbers but its about 65% sinovac, 20 pfizer 15 astrazeneca, 3rd booster campaign started a couple months ago, in fact im late for it, but yeah they make you mix vaccines to get a more complete immune response.

The chinese sinovac and uk astazeneca despite initial.concer s seem to hold up pretty well.


Much better than molderna and pffffizer

In Gibraltar for example they have used mostly pfffffizer. Surprise surprise. That magical MRNA tech :lol. Even their idiot CEOs boasted they made the vax in 2 days and it took 1 day to install windows. Wellll... it shows :lol



But also keep in mind South America is in a down wave right now. These things waves are crucial

TeyshaBlue
11-18-2021, 09:08 AM
Damn.
Im really sorry to hear this.
And I totally get this underlined.

If you live being one of the few it certainly sucks that much more.

And I really would like to ask a question that need not be answered if you dont wish to.
Do you guys think you know how, where you might have gotten it? The situation especially?
The "breakthrough" cases I know about through my parent's friends kind of tell a bit of a trend that seems to agree with some data from the US.

Thanks PG. I was very likely the vector for this as my day-to-day job involves constant travel with multiple face-to-face encounters daily. I'm sure I brought it back home from my work. As to where I picked it up, I have no idea.

TeyshaBlue
11-18-2021, 09:14 AM
GWS!

Go With Satan? WTF. :lol

boutons_deux
11-18-2021, 09:21 AM
Teyshablue

Very sorry to hear about your wife if she were vaccinated she is an extremely tiny number of people who end up in the hospital very sorry best of luck to her

TeyshaBlue
11-18-2021, 09:54 AM
Teyshablue

Very sorry to hear about your wife if she were vaccinated she is an extremely tiny number of people who end up in the hospital very sorry best of luck to her

Thanks bouts.

Winehole23
11-18-2021, 10:48 AM
Get the damn booster


Although the CDC has been tracking the rate of hospitalizations among fully vaccinated people, its website (https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#covidnet-hospitalizations-vaccination) shows data only through Aug. 28. According to the latest data from the CDC, an unvaccinated person is at 11 times greater risk of dying from Covid (https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status)than a vaccinated person.
The CDC didn’t respond to a request for new numbers.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/hospitalizations-rising-fully-vaccinated-us-fauci-says-rcna5907

pgardn
11-18-2021, 11:20 AM
Thanks PG. I was very likely the vector for this as my day-to-day job involves constant travel with multiple face-to-face encounters daily. I'm sure I brought it back home from my work. As to where I picked it up, I have no idea.

Crap.
People have to work. And yes older people as well. Pretty much the same with my parent and his friends. Grandad is on a reduced meet, greet and talk schedule simply because he is retired.

And if you dont mind, a couple of other questions.
Were your face to face meetings indoors and in an individual room? Did the meetings last over 15 minutes?
Sorry for the questions, I just follow some anecdotal trends so I can keep my dad well. He needs to work, its his passion.
I have gathered anecdotal stuff.... too many close contact long period meetings with multiple people during the day in smaller spaces as being especially bad for breakthroughs in older people and my dad does just this so I have suggested a change in the way these meetings take place. And progress has been made but I would like further modifications in my selfish way... so I bug him too much.

Again I perfectly understand if you are tired of questions. You have always struck me as a reasonable person so sorry for the bugging, but I dont much like to use the mail on this site and disturb others in a private way.

TeyshaBlue
11-18-2021, 01:26 PM
Crap.
People have to work. And yes older people as well. Pretty much the same with my parent and his friends. Grandad is on a reduced meet, greet and talk schedule simply because he is retired.

And if you dont mind, a couple of other questions.
Were your face to face meetings indoors and in an individual room? Did the meetings last over 15 minutes?
Sorry for the questions, I just follow some anecdotal trends so I can keep my dad well. He needs to work, its his passion.
I have gathered anecdotal stuff.... too many close contact long period meetings with multiple people during the day in smaller spaces as being especially bad for breakthroughs in older people and my dad does just this so I have suggested a change in the way these meetings take place. And progress has been made but I would like further modifications in my selfish way... so I bug him too much.

Again I perfectly understand if you are tired of questions. You have always struck me as a reasonable person so sorry for the bugging, but I dont much like to use the mail on this site and disturb others in a private way.

No problem pg. Most meetings are brief and involve exchanging and signing financial documents....almost exclusively indoors.

hater
11-18-2021, 06:32 PM
:lmao :lol :lmao :lmao :lol
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Austria about to lockdown the vaccinated too :lmao

https://twitter.com/MaynardLord/status/1461319376733446149?s=19

SnakeBoy
11-18-2021, 07:11 PM
I don't doubt the science involved and I'm certainly not an anti-vaxxer but it seems to me we ain't exactly on top of this covid shit.

I get to hear about a lot of breakthrough cases. The vaccines seem to be less effective against severe illness and hospitalization than were advertised but so far every breakthrough case I've heard of has ultimately recovered fully regardless of age and comorbidities. I wish you and your wife a speedy recovery.

SnakeBoy
11-18-2021, 07:36 PM
:lmao :lol :lmao :lmao :lol
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Austria about to lockdown the vaccinated too :lmao

https://twitter.com/MaynardLord/status/1461319376733446149?s=19

Crazy. You'd think they would've learned from places like Texas and Florida by now.

ChumpDumper
11-18-2021, 07:38 PM
:lmao :lol :lmao :lmao :lol
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Austria about to lockdown the vaccinated too :lmao

https://twitter.com/MaynardLord/status/1461319376733446149?s=19

Upper Austria, a stronghold of the far-right and vaccine-criticising Freedom Party, has the country's highest infection rate and its lowest vaccination rate. It and neighbouring Salzburg are the hardest-hit of Austria's nine provinces. Both border Germany.

:tu

Winehole23
11-19-2021, 03:08 AM
COVID spikes make hater laugh. He celebrates it.

hater
11-19-2021, 11:08 AM
COVID spikes make hater laugh. He celebrates it.

Fake news from poster who was cheering for mas children deaths at school

Despicable actions

hater
11-19-2021, 11:09 AM
:lmao called it

Bi Monthly shots coming soon :lmao

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1461716443838492673?s=19

boutons_deux
11-19-2021, 11:10 AM
Cost of COVID Hospitalization on the Rise

"the average reimbursement to medical facilities for the hospitalization of privately insured COVID patients was roughly $42,000."

“The uninsured could pay more than that,

because they are typically responsible for what hospitals charge, which is often several times higher than the amount reimbursed.”

https://www.laprogressive.com/the-cost-of-covid

hater
11-19-2021, 11:12 AM
:lmao :lol :lmao :lmao :lol
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:lmao :lol :lmao :lmao :lol

Austria about to lockdown the vaccinated too :lmao

https://twitter.com/MaynardLord/status/1461319376733446149?s=19

Called it :tu

https://twitter.com/JuliaHB1/status/1461632701283328000?s=19

hater
11-19-2021, 11:13 AM
:lmao

https://twitter.com/toadmeister/status/1461385292166873095?s=19

hater
11-19-2021, 11:19 AM
https://twitter.com/PiersRobinson1/status/1461647861909757957?s=19

ChumpDumper
11-19-2021, 11:20 AM
:lmao "Shock!"

spurraider21
11-19-2021, 11:49 AM
1461727419040251906

ChumpDumper
11-19-2021, 11:55 AM
:lmao

https://twitter.com/toadmeister/status/1461385292166873095?s=19Four days isn't going to make any impact on anything tbh.

Winehole23
11-19-2021, 12:19 PM
Fake news from poster who was cheering for mas children deaths at school

Despicable actionsYou misremember, I'm the guy who wanted more protection for school kids. You're the one who wants them unvaxxed and unprotected in any way from a preventable disease.



,

hater
11-19-2021, 12:26 PM
You misremember, I'm the guy who wanted more protection for school kids. You're the one who wants them unvaxxed and unprotected in any way from a preventable disease.



,

There was no mass death of children like you predicted (cheered and hoped)

You were way wrong and thank God you were way wrong :tu

Please dont wish for more dead children. Its not a verry human action.

Cheers

daboom1
11-19-2021, 01:54 PM
9eMAdyzfBnM

SnakeBoy
11-19-2021, 02:05 PM
9eMAdyzfBnM

She gave 100% facts that are on the CDC website and the libs cry misinformation

daboom1
11-19-2021, 02:12 PM
She gave 100% facts that are on the CDC website and the libs cry misinformation

You can tell she did her homework, and they are like "sorry girl, we can't let you finish" with the audience clapping on demand. What a shitshow.

ChumpDumper
11-19-2021, 02:13 PM
:lol Snakboi and Qhris getting triggered by The View.

Winehole23
11-19-2021, 02:47 PM
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/covid-cases-midwest-3.png

Winehole23
11-19-2021, 02:48 PM
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/covid-cases-northeast-3.png

Winehole23
11-19-2021, 02:49 PM
https://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/

hater
11-19-2021, 02:52 PM
9eMAdyzfBnM

:tu follow da.science :lmao this chick been reading my thread :lol

Also... woopie looking like a reumatic black bear tbqh wtf happened to her

hater
11-19-2021, 02:52 PM
She gave 100% facts that are on the CDC website and the libs cry misinformation

Shes basically read my posts here word for word :lol

hater
11-19-2021, 02:54 PM
Ma cartel homeboi in Germany telling me they about to lock down there. The "vaccines" have reached their expiration date. They are kaput.

daboom1
11-19-2021, 03:07 PM
:tu follow da.science :lmao this chick been reading my thread :lol

Also... woopie looking like a reumatic black bear tbqh wtf happened to her

She was rocking the white dog turd dreads for a while there looking real ratchet :lol

https://wwwimage-us.pplusstatic.com/thumbnails/photos/w425-q80/cast/stand_whoopi_800x1000.jpg

Blake
11-19-2021, 04:39 PM
:lol Snakboi and Qhris getting triggered by The View.

:lol

Winehole23
11-19-2021, 04:46 PM
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/huanan_market.jpg


https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abm4454

BackHome
11-19-2021, 04:53 PM
You know they are starting to see fully vaccinated people having to be admitted to Hospital this shit is crazy. Both my parents had heart surgeries I wanted both to get the booster but they were recently told by different Cardiologist one in Houston and one in Dallas to not get the booster that kinda surprised me.

Winehole23
11-19-2021, 04:54 PM
Cool story, bro

SnakeBoy
11-19-2021, 05:07 PM
You know they are starting to see fully vaccinated people having to be admitted to Hospital this shit is crazy. Both my parents had heart surgeries I wanted both to get the booster but they were recently told by different Cardiologist one in Houston and one in Dallas to not get the booster that kinda surprised me.

They should ask their internist for a 2nd opinion

DMC
11-19-2021, 05:08 PM
Citing The View is like citing the Wendy Willams show. You might as well be watching LA Housewives to get their take on it. None of these people have a clue and their audience are the blue side of the ignorant redneck porch sitting, spittoon spitting sister fucking ignorant shit kickers that ramble on about shit they reckin' might be since Bobby Ray said it over a the tire shop. Same people.

boutons_deux
11-19-2021, 06:45 PM
post-Thanksgiving spike will arrive with momentum

https://ci4.googleusercontent.com/proxy/5ssEmEW70-Sd4-C32ecLsIXaG-y1r3GlhwpFf0EJ8DjJ_BC1USYOCPxAbMOCjRxNZDEWSY1zdhNJ cdfDTRUkeSMiyGMo1wzAei5hEzbXYJVYEG1Jb9h8bTDt_cRhBN DaevNULFi9Kg6AxrdvtShkEsJ9wcMc0ojUR40dj1GHgak=s0-d-e1-ft#https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/07/21/us/19cvb-nov/cases_orphan_usa-1595349567192-articleLarge-v1092.png

hater
11-19-2021, 07:04 PM
https://twitter.com/samstreetwrites/status/1461814275232747536?s=19

hater
11-19-2021, 07:04 PM
https://twitter.com/AhmadAlgohbary/status/1461814136824807432?s=19

hater
11-19-2021, 07:05 PM
https://twitter.com/AlerteFR/status/1461804187168256003?s=19

SnakeBoy
11-19-2021, 07:24 PM
https://twitter.com/AlerteFR/status/1461804187168256003?s=19

They need Kyle asap

hater
11-19-2021, 07:26 PM
They need Kyle asap

Looks like they got him

https://twitter.com/sociale_lutte/status/1461853016294895625?s=19

SnakeBoy
11-19-2021, 07:31 PM
Looks like they got him

https://twitter.com/sociale_lutte/status/1461853016294895625?s=19

Well that didn't look like self defense at all

boutons_deux
11-19-2021, 07:31 PM
Up to 1.6 Million People in the U.S. Have Long-Term Smell Loss Due to Covid-19

After six months of smell loss, the chance of recovery drops to less than 20 percent, and

around 5 percent of all cases will result in permanent loss

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/up-to-16-million-people-in-the-us-have-long-term-smell-loss-180979092

SnakeBoy
11-19-2021, 07:34 PM
Up to 1.6 Million People in the U.S. Have Long-Term Smell Loss Due to Covid-19

After six months of smell loss, the chance of recovery drops to less than 20 percent, and

around 5 percent of all cases will result in permanent loss

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/up-to-16-million-people-in-the-us-have-long-term-smell-loss-180979092

1.6 million Americans ideally suited for work in sewage plants

DarrinS
11-19-2021, 07:36 PM
1.6 million Americans ideally suited for work in sewage plants

:lol

Winehole23
11-19-2021, 07:47 PM
Losing your sense of smell is hilarious...so long as it happens to someone else.

koriwhat
11-19-2021, 07:48 PM
Yall are still on this bullshit or what?

SnakeBoy
11-19-2021, 08:56 PM
Losing your sense of smell is hilarious...so long as it happens to someone else.

They can't smell shit

DMC
11-19-2021, 11:06 PM
Looks like they got him

https://twitter.com/sociale_lutte/status/1461853016294895625?s=19

Damn Kyle got there quick.

DMC
11-19-2021, 11:06 PM
Losing your sense of smell is hilarious...so long as it happens to someone else.

The list of shit your heart bleeds online about is endless.

Winehole23
11-19-2021, 11:34 PM
The list of shit your heart bleeds online about is endless.Ah, yes the bleeding heart thing. More mind reading and free psychoanalysis worth the price of admission.

Pointing out expressions of casual cruelty and callousness is just that, not sure why you feel you have to defend that, but be my guest. I'll keep that in mind next time you try to regulate decorum. :lol

ElNono
11-20-2021, 12:26 AM
Go With Satan? WTF. :lol

We've all sinned, tbh...

ElNono
11-20-2021, 12:27 AM
:lmao :lol :lmao :lmao :lol
:lmao :lol :lmao :lmao :lol
:lmao :lol :lmao :lmao :lol
:lmao :lol :lmao :lmao :lol
:lmao :lol :lmao :lmao :lol

Austria about to lockdown the vaccinated too :lmao

https://twitter.com/MaynardLord/status/1461319376733446149?s=19

Following the science :tu

ElNono
11-20-2021, 12:29 AM
You know they are starting to see fully vaccinated people having to be admitted to Hospital this shit is crazy. Both my parents had heart surgeries I wanted both to get the booster but they were recently told by different Cardiologist one in Houston and one in Dallas to not get the booster that kinda surprised me.


They should ask their internist for a 2nd opinion

why? they have facebook and twitter readily available...

ElNono
11-20-2021, 12:30 AM
Citing The View is like citing the Wendy Willams show. You might as well be watching LA Housewives to get their take on it. None of these people have a clue and their audience are the blue side of the ignorant redneck porch sitting, spittoon spitting sister fucking ignorant shit kickers that ramble on about shit they reckin' might be since Bobby Ray said it over a the tire shop. Same people.

Don't tell that to Qhris or SnakeBoy, clearly they love that show, tbh

ChumpDumper
11-20-2021, 02:37 AM
The list of shit your heart bleeds online about is endless.

: lol you're like 50 and still trying to edgelord a message board.

hater
11-20-2021, 02:30 PM
https://twitter.com/maxalex66/status/1462114628520058893?s=19

ElNono
11-20-2021, 02:53 PM
https://twitter.com/maxalex66/status/1462114628520058893?s=19

Oberto and LMA were a visionaries, tbh, they had cardiac problems because they knew the vaccines were coming...

daboom1
11-20-2021, 02:56 PM
https://twitter.com/maxalex66/status/1462114628520058893?s=19

It's really sad what people are doing to their bodies tbh imo

ElNono
11-20-2021, 03:03 PM
What's really sad is the fake news, tbh. Hopefully Aguero gets a booster soon, since his cardiac arrhythmia makes him a high-risk person now...

Thankfully he's surrounded with top medical professionals, not conspiratards...

boutons_deux
11-20-2021, 03:08 PM
Fascist brownshirts, shithole TN division

Former Tennessee vaccine director flees home amid COVID-related threats

Dr. Michelle Fiscus ... they prepared to move out of their home. (https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-59335010)

https://www.alternet.org/2021/11/tennessee/

hater
11-20-2021, 03:23 PM
It's really sad what people are doing to their bodies tbh imo

Play stupid games....

https://twitter.com/CasanovasRichy/status/1459348258908774402?s=19

hater
11-20-2021, 03:24 PM
:lol

https://twitter.com/smoothminou/status/1462115879735410688?s=19

hater
11-20-2021, 03:26 PM
https://twitter.com/DibariSteve/status/1461883377540345859?s=19

ElNono
11-20-2021, 03:38 PM
Oberto and LMA were a visionaries, tbh, they had cardiac problems because they knew the vaccines were coming...

daboom1
11-20-2021, 04:10 PM
:lol

https://twitter.com/smoothminou/status/1462115879735410688?s=19

They gonna run this pandemic until 2024 ("no vaccine no vote") watch...

SnakeBoy
11-20-2021, 04:40 PM
Sweden now has the lowest Covid infection rate in western Europe — after double-vaccinated nationals were told they don't have to test for the virus even if they get symptoms.

InRareForm
11-20-2021, 05:01 PM
Sweden now has the lowest Covid infection rate in western Europe — after double-vaccinated nationals were told they don't have to test for the virus even if they get symptoms.

Well duh lol

ElNono
11-20-2021, 05:17 PM
Sweden now has the lowest Covid infection rate in western Europe — after double-vaccinated nationals were told they don't have to test for the virus even if they get symptoms.

https://snipboard.io/1edcyD.jpg

hater
11-20-2021, 05:57 PM
Sweden now has the lowest Covid infection rate in western Europe — after double-vaccinated nationals were told they don't have to test for the virus even if they get symptoms.

:tu

hater
11-20-2021, 05:58 PM
https://twitter.com/JamesMelville/status/1461964823495946248?s=19

hater
11-20-2021, 05:59 PM
https://twitter.com/ElectionWiz/status/1462066355574824960?s=19

hater
11-20-2021, 05:59 PM
https://twitter.com/5NewsAustralia/status/1461921459454971904?s=19

ChumpDumper
11-20-2021, 07:11 PM
The don't really look all that locked down tbh.

boutons_deux
11-21-2021, 07:48 PM
A close up look at Trash's mass homicide "a joke"

“THE FIRST WAVE” SHOWS WHAT WE HAVEN’T SEEN OF COVID-19

If you have survived the pandemic without going inside a Covid ward,

you will likely be stunned by the grim intimacy of Matthew Heineman’s new documentary.

https://theintercept.com/2021/11/20/the-first-wave-covid-documentary

DMC
11-21-2021, 07:54 PM
https://snipboard.io/1edcyD.jpg

So a 4995 would be a compromise between the two? I just don't know.

SnakeBoy
11-21-2021, 07:57 PM
A close up look at Trash's mass homicide "a joke"

“THE FIRST WAVE” SHOWS WHAT WE HAVEN’T SEEN OF COVID-19

If you have survived the pandemic without going inside a Covid ward,

you will likely be stunned by the grim intimacy of Matthew Heineman’s new documentary.

https://theintercept.com/2021/11/20/the-first-wave-covid-documentary


I'll wait for the sequel...The Biden Waves