Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

[ElNono]

If Fauci is "the science", then FDA did not "follow the science". :lol

I hate that phrase "follow the science ".

Why not? Only thing Fauci said is he thinks we're going to need boosters in the future.

This commission merely said they need more data, not that boosters are not necessary.

[SnakeBoy]

:lol vaxxed antivax Snakboi gettin' upset

It only seems that way to you because you're reading my posts with your angry voice because daddy Biden just got his shit pushed in :lol

[SnakeBoy]

If Fauci is "the science", then FDA did not "follow the science". :lol

I hate that phrase "follow the science ".

An interesting philosophical discussion on that topic...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oro0ttU2_A

tldw
Follow the science is a ridiculous phrase because science doesn't lead anywhere, it just is what it is.

[DarrinS]

An interesting philosophical discussion on that topic...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oro0ttU2_A

tldw
Follow the science is a ridiculous phrase because science doesn't lead anywhere, it just is what it is.


Freddy does great interviews. :tu

[SnakeBoy]

Freddy does great interviews. :tu

Yeah he had this anarchist climate doomsdayer on and, although the guy was batshit crazy, I thought it was a great interview. So much better than the conflict based msm interview approach.

[baseline bum]

So what's Pfizer out, about $25 billion from this FDA vote? :lol

[DMC]

So what's Pfizer out, about $25 billion from this FDA vote? :lol

Not to worry, the federal government will discover a better booster through non-profit research geared toward the good of man. Also known as going with another "for profit" company the members of Congress have already invested heavily in.

[ChumpDumper]

It only seems that way to you because you're reading my posts with your angry voice because daddy Biden just got his shit pushed in :lol:lol BDS
:lol #StillWithHim

[Thread]

They are worried about younger adults and teens


"We're being asked to approve this as a three-dose vaccine for people 16 years of age and older, without any clear evidence the third dose for a younger person, when compared to an elderly person, is of value," Offit said.
"If it's not of value, then the risks may outweigh the benefits. [[[[[[[[[And we know the 16-29-year-old is at higher risk of myocarditis," he added.]]]]]]]]]

Tell it, Offit.

Testify!!!

[Thread]

They are worried about younger adults and teens


"We're being asked to approve this as a three-dose vaccine for people 16 years of age and older, without any clear evidence the third dose for a younger person, when compared to an elderly person, is of value," Offit said.
"If it's not of value, then the risks may outweigh the benefits. [[[[[[[[[And we know the 16-29-year-old is at higher risk of myocarditis," he added.]]]]]]]]]

Tell it, Offit.

Testify!!!

ADDENDUM:::

The FDA's Dr. Doran Fink told the meeting the agency was not sure, either. [[[[[[[[["We really don't have enough data yet to know what the risk of myocarditis or pericarditis would be following a booster dose," he said.]]]]]]]]]

Tell it, you Fink.

Testify!!!

[hater]

They ran a train on Falsuchi :lol

[hater]

:lol my cousin from Colombia is a walking pinhead :lol

He first got a hold of pfizer vial and injected his whole family. And there were 3 shots remaining so he inject3d himself.

Then he got a job in Germany so he had to get a legit vaccine w papers. So he got a Janssen :lol

But Germany doesnt give a fuck about your previous vax. They immediately will vax him again w Pfizer :lmao


Hes gonna be walking around w 5 Pfizer shots and 1 Janssen :lmao :lol

Hes fucked

[ElNono]

:lol my cousin from Colombia is a walking pinhead :lol

He first got a hold of pfizer vial and injected his whole family. And there were 3 shots remaining so he inject3d himself.

Then he got a job in Germany so he had to get a legit vaccine w papers. So he got a Janssen :lol

But Germany doesnt give a fuck about your previous vax. They immediately will vax him again w Pfizer :lmao


Hes gonna be walking around w 5 Pfizer shots and 1 Janssen :lmao :lol

Hes fucked

Why?

[Winehole23]

because det grudge

hater's TDS

#StillWithHim

[hater]

Why?

He already said Janssen fucked his arm. Still sore and had anxiety for a week :lol

Once he gets 2 mo4e in Germany :lmao

God help him :lol

[ElNono]

He already said Janssen fucked his arm. Still sore and had anxiety for a week :lol

Once he gets 2 mo4e in Germany :lmao

God help him :lol

Oh, I though you were claiming having multiple vaccines was worse than having none or the disease... carry on.

[hater]

Oh, I though you were claiming having multiple vaccines was worse than having none or the disease... carry on.

His body his choice :lol

Dont think we have any data of someone w 5 pfizers and 1 Janssen. We will see :lol

[ElNono]

His body his choice :lol

Dont think we have any data of someone w 5 pfizers and 1 Janssen. We will see :lol

We have ample data for 1 vaccine and 1 booster. So far so good.

If anything, the reluctance to boosters right now is directly related to how effective the two doses have been...

[hombre]

That and the FDA also wants to keep the priority on getting unvaccinated people vaccinated still.

[hater]

We have ample data for 1 vaccine and 1 booster. So far so good.

If anything, the reluctance to boosters right now is directly related to how effective the two doses have been...

Not according to FDA

[pgardn]

Not according to FDA

Lets make a bet the FDA okays it. I say they do. You say they dont.

Then you leave the board.

[hater]

Lets make a bet the FDA okays it. I say they do. You say they dont.

Then you leave the board.

Lets say Biden kills another 100k americans..you leave

[ChumpDumper]

Not according to FDA
Did the FDA say two shots are ineffective somehow?

[ElNono]

Not according to FDA

No, that's actually according to the FDA... that panel explicitly calls to vaccinate the unvaccinated.

What they want more data on is if the increase of protection from additional boosters is worth the risk.

Apparently they already think it is for people 65+ and at risk, just want to look further for other age ranges.

[Adam Lambert]

If Fauci is "the science", then FDA did not "follow the science". :lol

I hate that phrase "follow the science ".

That's fine, if there was a phrase like "follow whatever medical whims are being pushed on the internet by people who listen to Joe Rogan podcasts" I'd probably hate that phrase.

[baseline bum]

That's fine, if there was a phrase like "follow whatever medical whims are being pushed on the internet by people who listen to Joe Rogan podcasts" I'd probably hate that phrase.

Karrin likes to follow the right wing miracle cure of the week

[Thread]

Karrin likes to follow the right wing miracle cure of the week

You bum & Adam sittin' in that fuckin' tree, k.i.s.s.i.n.g..

[hater]

No, that's actually according to the FDA... that panel explicitly calls to vaccinate the unvaccinated.

What they want more data on is if the increase of protection from additional boosters is worth the risk.

Apparently they already think it is for people 65+ and at risk, just want to look further for other age ranges.

Wait u call the 2nd pfizer a booster?

Ok I take both as one vaccination. I was talking about actual planned booster. FDA says theres not enough data

[Thread]

That's fine, if there was a phrase like "follow whatever medical whims are being pushed on the internet by people who listen to Joe Rogan podcasts" I'd probably hate that phrase.


Karrin likes to follow the right wing miracle cure of the week

You lost 2k of dead Americans yesterday, buddy-boys. I just toted those ciphers and loaded 'em onto Baby Killer Biden's end of the COVID Death Ledger.

Now get back in that fuckin' tree!!!

[Thread]

No, that's actually according to the FDA... that panel explicitly calls to vaccinate the unvaccinated.

What they want more data on is if the increase of protection from additional boosters is worth the risk.

Apparently they already think it is for people 65+ and at risk, just want to look further for other age ranges.

...and how bad it/vax fucks up young people hearts. They're real concerned about that, even enough concerned to say it out loud!!!

[hater]

...and how bad it/vax fucks up young people hearts. They're real concerned about that, even enough concerned to say it out loud!!!

Yup

Anyone else saying it is being called an anti vaxer :lmao

[Thread]

Yup

Anyone else saying it is being called an anti vaxer :lmao

hater

[ChumpDumper]

Wait u call the 2nd pfizer a booster?No. He doesn't.

[ElNono]

Wait u call the 2nd pfizer a booster?

Ok I take both as one vaccination. I was talking about actual planned booster. FDA says theres not enough data

But that's the point. There's a tacit admission that the vaccine is effective. What they want more data on is how much a booster increases protection vs the potential risk, especially in non-high risk people.

If the vaccines wouldn't still be effective at this point, then then there would be fairly low hesitancy in recommending it.

That said, 'need more data' is also not an actual denial, just asking for more time, which makes sense, tbh

[ElNono]

No. He doesn't.

In the case of Moderna and Pfizer, I do. That's what they are.

It's proven that the first dose already provides protection against the virus, the second dose is indeed a booster.

[ElNono]

...and how bad it/vax fucks up young people hearts. They're real concerned about that, even enough concerned to say it out loud!!!

Statistically it's not bad at all. The prevalence of myocarditis is extremely low and a treatable inflammation.

However, it's indeed concerning if a booster doesn't provide substantial protection.

[hater]

But that's the point. There's a tacit admission that the vaccine is effective. What they want more data on is how much a booster increases protection vs the potential risk, especially in non-high risk people.

If the vaccines wouldn't still be effective at this point, then then there would be fairly low hesitancy in recommending it.

That said, 'need more data' is also not an actual denial, just asking for more time, which makes sense, tbh

Correct. If I have an empty tank of gas, and I go fill up, I will have gas. Same w booster. Obviously your antibodies grow. But how lomg does that last? Not much based on Israel already using 4th shot. FDA is correct to say if we gonna be boosting every 4, 5 months. (Which we absolutely shouldnt) at least need to see Lots OF data. Lots

[ElNono]

Correct. If I have an empty tank of gas, and I go fill up, I will have gas. Same w booster. Obviously your antibodies grow. But how lomg does that last? Not much based on Israel already using 4th shot. FDA is correct to say if we gonna be boosting every 4, 5 months. (Which we absolutely shouldnt) at least need to see Lots OF data. Lots

Except that it doesn't work anything like that. Antibodies for one variant of the virus vary in efficacy against another variant. That's why companies like Pfizer have announced and are working on updated vaccines making them more efficient against current variants. This is the same that happens with the Flu vaccine as well.

That's also why this situation is fluid. Fortunately the current vaccines are still relatively efficient against a no-vaccine-at-all scenario with Delta, the variant du jour, despite they're not as effective as they were against the original COVID.

That said, I agree that more data = better.

[boutons_deux]

https://mediacloud.theweek.com/image/upload/f_auto,t_content-image-mobile@1/v1631739493/3%20Horsey%20vax.jpg

[boutons_deux]

https://mediacloud.theweek.com/image/upload/f_auto,t_content-image-mobile@1/v1631653311/20210914edshe-b.jpg

[boutons_deux]

https://mediacloud.theweek.com/image/upload/f_auto,t_content-image-mobile@1/v1631631563/20210913edbbc-a.jpg

[hater]

Except that it doesn't work anything like that. Antibodies for one variant of the virus vary in efficacy against another variant. That's why companies like Pfizer have announced and are working on updated vaccines making them more efficient against current variants. This is the same that happens with the Flu vaccine as well.

That's also why this situation is fluid. Fortunately the current vaccines are still relatively efficient against a no-vaccine-at-all scenario with Delta, the variant du jour, despite they're not as effective as they were against the original COVID.

That said, I agree that more data = better.

"Vaccines"


:lmao :lol

[ElNono]

"Vaccines"

:lmao :lol

???

[Sam da Sham]

Statistically it's not bad at all. The prevalence of myocarditis is extremely low and a treatable inflammation.

The heart does not regenerate new cells. If you damage your heart cells then you are going suffer heart problems for the rest of your life. Inflammation of the heart is a SERIOUS problem.

[Thread]

The heart does not regenerate new cells. If you damage your heart cells then you are going suffer heart problems for the rest of your life. Inflammation of the heart is a SERIOUS problem.

Sam just wrecked El's shit.

Sam da Sham

[hater]

???

Its not a vaccine if you gotta get one every 4 months :lmao

[hater]

The heart does not regenerate new cells. If you damage your heart cells then you are going suffer heart problems for the rest of your life. Inflammation of the heart is a SERIOUS problem.

Yup

Ppl think that you can recover from heart issues. Nope. When you get older you will feel the damage.

[ChumpDumper]

The heart does not regenerate new cells. If you damage your heart cells then you are going suffer heart problems for the rest of your life. Inflammation of the heart is a SERIOUS problem.

Yup

Ppl think that you can recover from heart issues. Nope. When you get older you will feel the damage.
Researchers analysed the records of healthcare organisations that cover a fifth of the US population. They found that, during the first 12 months of the pandemic, males aged 12 to 17 were most likely to develop myocarditis within three months of catching covid-19, at a rate of about 450 cases per million infections.

This compares with 67 cases of myocarditis per million males of the same age following their second dose of a Pfizer/BioNTech or Moderna vaccine, according to figures from the US Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices. Researchers added together cases after first and second doses to reach a total rate of 77 cases per million in this male age group triggered by vaccination, a sixth that seen after infection.

“If you’re focused on heart inflammation, the safer bet is to take the vaccine,” says Mendel Singer at Case Western Reserve University in Ohio, who helped carry out the study.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg25133462-800-myocarditis-is-more-common-after-covid-19-infection-than-vaccination/

So are you REALLY focused on heart inflammation?

Yes or no.

[hater]

Researchers analysed the records of healthcare organisations that cover a fifth of the US population. They found that, during the first 12 months of the pandemic, males aged 12 to 17 were most likely to develop myocarditis within three months of catching covid-19, at a rate of about 450 cases per million infections.

This compares with 67 cases of myocarditis per million males of the same age following their second dose of a Pfizer/BioNTech or Moderna vaccine, according to figures from the US Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices. Researchers added together cases after first and second doses to reach a total rate of 77 cases per million in this male age group triggered by vaccination, a sixth that seen after infection.

“If you’re focused on heart inflammation, the safer bet is to take the vaccine,” says Mendel Singer at Case Western Reserve University in Ohio, who helped carry out the study.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg25133462-800-myocarditis-is-more-common-after-covid-19-infection-than-vaccination/

So are you REALLY focused on heart inflammation?

Yes or no.

Tell that to the FDA.tbqh

They had a good.reason to directly refer to myocarditis.

Follow the science ma homedude

[hater]

My guess is that if u gonna inject these poor bastards every 4 months
The # of myocarditis kids would easily eclipse covid myocarditis by the 5th dose

[pgardn]

Its not a vaccine if you gotta get one every 4 months :lmao

OH.

What is the timing on a Vaccine? Every 7 years. What?
And now you pretend like its going to the same time limit into the indefinite future.

wtf are you even saying. You did not want a booster? Tough luck. There is a booster. It appears to work well on those most immunocompromised. What a surprise. You wanted it to be lifetime polio. Well, polio virus is so rare here its basically considered gone. And polio was not near as easy to get infected with as this thing. Tough luck buster. We got antivaccers who have led the charge to make this difficult. Deal with it. Your freedom is at stake. And to think you took the mask like a bitch, you are such a giant contradiction. A person who gets the vaccine is a pin cushion! Why dont you claim the mask made you unable to breathe like derp? Sorry little wimp.

[ChumpDumper]

Tell that to the FDA.tbqh

They had a good.reason to directly refer to myocarditis.

Follow the science ma homedudeYou didn't answer the question.

“If you’re focused on heart inflammation, the safer bet is to take the vaccine,” says Mendel Singer at Case Western Reserve University in Ohio, who helped carry out the study.

So are you REALLY focused on heart inflammation?

[ChumpDumper]

My guess is that if u gonna inject these poor bastards every 4 months
The # of myocarditis kids would easily eclipse covid myocarditis by the 5th doseYour guess is not science.

Should kids 12-17 get vaxxed?

Yes or no.

[hater]

You didn't answer the question.

“If you’re focused on heart inflammation, the safer bet is to take the vaccine,” says Mendel Singer at Case Western Reserve University in Ohio, who helped carry out the study.

So are you REALLY focused on heart inflammation?

You realize kids will need a booster every 4 months? That increases the risk 3fold ma homie nig

[hater]

Your guess is not science.

Should kids 12-17 get vaxxed?

Yes or no.

Neither is yours Nancy

FDA told u to stay put. Sit d fuck down.

[ChumpDumper]

You realize kids will need a booster every 4 months?Where is the science saying that?

You'll need to provide a quote and a link.

[ChumpDumper]

Neither is yours Nancy

FDA told u to stay put. Sit d fuck down.The FDA approved the vaccine for 12 and up.

According to you, should kids 12-17 get vaccinated?

Yes or no.

[ElNono]

The heart does not regenerate new cells. If you damage your heart cells then you are going suffer heart problems for the rest of your life. Inflammation of the heart is a SERIOUS problem.

Myocarditis is an inflammation of the walls. It’s only problematic if it becomes chronic.

[Ef-man]

Its not a vaccine if you gotta get one every 4 months :lmao

So getting 4 polio shots/treatments means it is not a vaccine, got it.

[ElNono]

Its not a vaccine if you gotta get one every 4 months :lmao

Why would every X months would make it any less of a vaccine, doctor? :lol

And who claimed we need to get one every 4 months? That’s hyperbolic even by your standards.

[hater]

Where is the science saying that?

You'll need to provide a quote and a link.

Thats the point. There isnt the science either way.

FDA :tu

Follow da Science :tu

[hater]

So getting 4 polio shots means it is not a vaccine, got it.

Every 4 months for life tinquerbells

[ChumpDumper]

Thats the point. There isnt the science either way.

FDA :tu

Follow da Science :tu:lol hater folds

:lol hater has no science for shit he just made up

:lol that's the point

[hater]

The FDA approved the vaccine for 12 and up.

According to you, should kids 12-17 get vaccinated?

Yes or no.

Shud b optional. Eberything shud be optional :tu

Freedom :tu

[hater]

Why would every X months would make it any less of a vaccine, doctor? :lol

And who claimed we need to get one every 4 months? That’s hyperbolic even by your standards.

Its not a vax ma.homey

[ChumpDumper]

Myocarditis is an inflammation of the walls. It’s only problematic if it becomes chronic.Most of the the boys who get it take an Advil.

[Ef-man]

Every 4 months for life tinquerbells

Damn you are dumb . :wow

Who said a shot every 4 month for life?

[ElNono]

Researchers analysed the records of healthcare organisations that cover a fifth of the US population. They found that, during the first 12 months of the pandemic, males aged 12 to 17 were most likely to develop myocarditis within three months of catching covid-19, at a rate of about 450 cases per million infections.

This compares with 67 cases of myocarditis per million males of the same age following their second dose of a Pfizer/BioNTech or Moderna vaccine, according to figures from the US Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices. Researchers added together cases after first and second doses to reach a total rate of 77 cases per million in this male age group triggered by vaccination, a sixth that seen after infection.

“If you’re focused on heart inflammation, the safer bet is to take the vaccine,” says Mendel Singer at Case Western Reserve University in Ohio, who helped carry out the study.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg25133462-800-myocarditis-is-more-common-after-covid-19-infection-than-vaccination/

So are you REALLY focused on heart inflammation?

Yes or no.

Exactly. Statistically it’s insignificant.

Plus, I’m not against only recommending boosters to non-children, unless there’s a new variant more deadly towards children.

[ChumpDumper]

Shud b optional. Eberything shud be optional :tu

Freedom :tuSo you have no objection to kids 12-17 getting the vaccine even though some of them may get myocarditis.:tu

[ElNono]

Its not a vax ma.homey

Says who? You? :lol

Where’s the vax line, doctor? 5 months? 8 months? Do tell.

[ChumpDumper]

Exactly. Statistically it’s insignificant.

Plus, I’m not against only recommending boosters to non-children, unless there’s a new variant more deadly towards children.:tu

We're lucky we have a bleeding edge test lab on Israel to help determine these things. We'll know better in a couple months if boosters are beneficial for <60.

[Ef-man]

Says who? You? :lol

Where’s the vax line, doctor? 5 months? 8 months? Do tell.

Hater, as Colombia’s ducks, must be from Yuma, Cundinamarca.

[boutons_deux]

Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp keeps mentioning failed AIDS vaccine mandates.

But there is no AIDS vaccine :lol

https://www.salon.com/2021/09/17/georgia-gov-brian-kemp-keeps-mentioning-failed-aids-vaccine-mandates-but-there-is-no-aids-vaccine/

[pgardn]

Shud b optional. Eberything shud be optional :tu

Freedom :tu

So you have the freedom to foul the air I breathe with virus...
Hater now making up his own definitions of a vaccine icing the cake of stupidity.

[hater]

Damn you are dumb . :wow

Who said a shot every 4 month for life?

Israel and Pfizer, Tinkernugget

[hater]

So you have no objection to kids 12-17 getting the vaccine even though some of them may get myocarditis.:tu

If they and their parents choose to. Not at all.

Freeedom :tu

[hater]

Says who? You? :lol

Where’s the vax line, doctor? 5 months? 8 months? Do tell.

Says d science. Ma salvadorian homei

[ChumpDumper]

If they and their parents choose to. Not at all.

Freeedom :tuSo you never actually had any concerns about myocarditis at all.:tu

[ChumpDumper]

Says d science. Ma salvadorian homeiShow where the science says that.

[SnakeBoy]

1439355498646495237

[Sam da Sham]

Show where the science says that.
SARS-CoV-2 mRNA Vaccination-Associated Myocarditis in Children Ages 12-17: A Stratified National Database Analysis


https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.30.21262866v1.full

Results A total of 257 CAEs (Cardiac Adverse Events) were identified. Rates per million following dose 2 among males were 162.2 (ages 12-15) and 94.0 (ages 16-17); among females, rates were 13.0 and 13.4 per million, respectively. For boys 12-15 without medical comorbidities receiving their second mRNA vaccination dose, the rate of CAE is 3.7 to 6.1 times higher than their 120-day COVID-19 hospitalization risk as of August 21, 2021 (7-day hospitalizations 1.5/100k population) and 2.6-4.3-fold higher at times of high weekly hospitalization risk (7-day hospitalizations 2.1/100k), such as during January 2021.

Conclusions Post-vaccination CAE rate was highest in young boys aged 12-15 following dose two. For boys 12-17 without medical comorbidities, the likelihood of post vaccination dose two CAE is 162.2 and 94.0/million respectively. This incidence exceeds their expected 120-day COVID-19 hospitalization rate at both moderate (August 21, 2021 rates) and high COVID-19 hospitalization incidence.

[ChumpDumper]

SARS-CoV-2 mRNA Vaccination-Associated Myocarditis in Children Ages 12-17: A Stratified National Database Analysis


https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.30.21262866v1.full

Results A total of 257 CAEs (Cardiac Adverse Events) were identified. Rates per million following dose 2 among males were 162.2 (ages 12-15) and 94.0 (ages 16-17); among females, rates were 13.0 and 13.4 per million, respectively. For boys 12-15 without medical comorbidities receiving their second mRNA vaccination dose, the rate of CAE is 3.7 to 6.1 times higher than their 120-day COVID-19 hospitalization risk as of August 21, 2021 (7-day hospitalizations 1.5/100k population) and 2.6-4.3-fold higher at times of high weekly hospitalization risk (7-day hospitalizations 2.1/100k), such as during January 2021.

Conclusions Post-vaccination CAE rate was highest in young boys aged 12-15 following dose two. For boys 12-17 without medical comorbidities, the likelihood of post vaccination dose two CAE is 162.2 and 94.0/million respectively. This incidence exceeds their expected 120-day COVID-19 hospitalization rate at both moderate (August 21, 2021 rates) and high COVID-19 hospitalization incidence.Why did you cut it off there?

Also, lol VAERS.

Also, lol that wasn't the question I asked hater.

[hater]

So you never actually had any concerns about myocarditis at all.:tu

I do. But my body ma choice ma negro

Freedom :tu

[hater]

1439355498646495237

Freedom fighters :tu

[ChumpDumper]

I do.Not enough to even have an opinion anyone shouldn't take the vaccine.:tu

[hater]

Not enough to even have an opinion anyone shouldn't take the vaccine.:tu

Anyone who wants it should. Anyone who doesnt want it. Shouldnt

Freedom :tu

[ChumpDumper]

Anyone who wants it should. Anyone who doesnt want it. Shouldnt

Freedom :tuRight, you can't even think or argue anyone shouldn't from a medical standpoint RE: myocarditis.:tu

[hater]

Right, you can't even think or argue anyone shouldn't from a medical standpoint.:tu

I aint a doctor nor I play one on the internet.

Ma body ma choice :tu

Freedom :tu

[ChumpDumper]

I aint a doctor nor I play one on the internet.

Ma body ma choice :tu

Freedom :tuSo you brought up myocarditis for absolutely no reason whatsoever.:tu

[hater]

So you brought up myocarditis for absolutely no reason whatsoever.:tu

Facts are facts. Risks are risks. Everyone will make their own choice in life.

Freedom :tu

[ChumpDumper]

Facts are facts. Risks are risks.Fact is you don't think there is enough risk of myocarditis to discourage even one person from getting the vaccine.:tu

[hater]

Fact is you don't think there is enough risk of myocarditis to discourage even one person from getting the vaccine.:tu

Not enough data toeither discourage or force peeps to take the boosters ma nig.

Free world

ma body ma choice

Freedom :tu


Follow d science :tu

[ChumpDumper]

Not enough data toeither discourage or force peeps to take the boosters ma nig.Yeah, I told you that days ago.:tu

Good idea for you to try to change the subject, but not to that.:tu

[hater]

Yeah, I told you that days ago.:tu

Good idea for you to try to change the subject, but not to that.:tu

Roses are red violets are violet. Ma body ma choice. Freedom :tu

[ChumpDumper]

Roses are red violets are violet. Ma body ma choice. Freedom :tuhater folds:tu

[Ef-man]

Israel and Pfizer, Tinkernugget


Show where the science says that.

You gotheem again ChumpDumper! :wow

Hater has the reading comprehension of a MAGAtard that is #stillwithhim. :lol

Trump truly loves the poorly educated. :lmao

[ElNono]

Says d science. Ma salvadorian homei


Show where the science says that.

[ElNono]

SARS-CoV-2 mRNA Vaccination-Associated Myocarditis in Children Ages 12-17: A Stratified National Database Analysis


https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.30.21262866v1.full

Results A total of 257 CAEs (Cardiac Adverse Events) were identified. Rates per million following dose 2 among males were 162.2 (ages 12-15) and 94.0 (ages 16-17); among females, rates were 13.0 and 13.4 per million, respectively. For boys 12-15 without medical comorbidities receiving their second mRNA vaccination dose, the rate of CAE is 3.7 to 6.1 times higher than their 120-day COVID-19 hospitalization risk as of August 21, 2021 (7-day hospitalizations 1.5/100k population) and 2.6-4.3-fold higher at times of high weekly hospitalization risk (7-day hospitalizations 2.1/100k), such as during January 2021.

Conclusions Post-vaccination CAE rate was highest in young boys aged 12-15 following dose two. For boys 12-17 without medical comorbidities, the likelihood of post vaccination dose two CAE is 162.2 and 94.0/million respectively. This incidence exceeds their expected 120-day COVID-19 hospitalization rate at both moderate (August 21, 2021 rates) and high COVID-19 hospitalization incidence.

Why did you leave this out?

Further research into the severity and long-term sequelae of post-vaccination CAE is warranted.

And, again, unless you're terrible at math, 162.2 per million (worst case) is 0.0162% incidence rate... which is exactly what statistically insignificant means.

[ElNono]

Plus, I already stated I'm ok if they don't want to do boosters on kids... I get it. That doesn't mean adults shouldn't.

[SnakeBoy]

And, again, unless you're terrible at math, 162.2 per million (worst case) is 0.0162% incidence rate... which is exactly what statistically insignificant means.

Is 0.0027% statistically significant?

[SnakeBoy]

1439257913567154176

[ChumpDumper]

:lol following Gorka

[ElNono]

Is 0.0027% statistically significant?

Depends on what we're talking about. If it's US citizens, no, I don't think it's statistically significant.

[Sam da Sham]

Fact is you don't think there is enough risk of myocarditis to discourage even one person from getting the vaccine.:tu

The risk of heart inflammation is rare if you believe all you are told. Who knows the truth? But the stats presented show us that a boy 12-17 is significantly more likely to end up in the hospital from CAE (Cardiac Adverse Event) than from Covid infection.

I am not anti-vaccine, but the mRNA genetic engineering experiment is NOT a vaccine. Do you know that the mRNA code is stored digitally? And that means that the code can be hacked. Let's hope that someone with nefarious intentions doesn't alter the code to do who knows what!

[ElNono]

The risk of heart inflammation is rare if you believe all you are told. Who knows the truth?

That's exactly why we keep statistics. Unless you're advancing that doctors and hospitals worldwide are part of some machiavellian conspiracy, that is the truth.


I am not anti-vaccine, but the mRNA genetic engineering experiment is NOT a vaccine. Do you know that the mRNA code is stored digitally? And that means that the code can be hacked. Let's hope that someone with nefarious intentions doesn't alter the code to do who knows what!

:lol mRNA is simply a delivery mechanism. Everybody has natural messenger RNA in their cells, it's part of the cell transcription process. The only engineering is to create a sequence that will make the cell create a particular protein so your body learns about it.

And :lmao at the digital hack conspiracy theory. mRNA sequences are stored digitally just like DNA is stored digitally when sequenced or every damn modern medicine is stored in before synthesizing. It's just a storage format for the formula. Under that premise almost every drug is at 'risk' for a hack.

[Sam da Sham]

That's exactly why we keep statistics. Unless you're advancing that doctors and hospitals worldwide are part of some machiavellian conspiracy, that is the truth.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/new-missouri-covid-whistleblower-hospitals-lying-public-covid-can-prove/


:lol mRNA is simply a delivery mechanism. Everybody has natural messenger RNA in their cells, it's part of the cell transcription process. The only engineering is to create a sequence that will make the cell create a particular protein so your body learns about it.

That's right, everybody has NATURAL mRNA in their cells - not some mad scientist's version of what it should be. It could just as easily be coding for snake venom, etc.


And :lmao at the digital hack conspiracy theory. mRNA sequences are stored digitally just like DNA is stored digitally when sequenced or every damn modern medicine is stored in before synthesizing. It's just a storage format for the formula. Under that premise almost every drug is at 'risk' for a hack.

Nope, you are absolutely wrong about this one. The mRNA code is a CODE just like computer CODE and can be hacked. You are saying it's the same as Betty Crockers Cookbook - Nope. :nope

[ElNono]

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/new-missouri-covid-whistleblower-hospitals-lying-public-covid-can-prove/

:lmao rando Missouri hospital whistleblower... gatewaypundit... how about the rest of the world? Everybody is lying? rofl


That's right, everybody has NATURAL mRNA in their cells - not some mad scienists version of what it should be. It could just as easily be coding for snake venom, etc.

There's nothing 'mad scientist' about it. That's why we have trials on animals first, then on humans. These vaccines underwent those trials as well.

The successful use of mRNA dates back to 1990 (https://www.nature.com/articles/nrd.2017.243). This is a field that has been in research for over 30 years. Only recently we had the tech to refine and mass produce them.


Nope, you are absolutely wrong about this one. The mRNA code is a CODE just like computer CODE and can be hacked. You are saying it's the same as Betty Crockers Cookbook - Nope. :nope

:lmao:lmao:lmao

No I'm not. mRNA is a molecule (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messenger_RNA), there's nothing digital about it. The genetic sequence is contained in nucleotides (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nucleotide). It's entirely a chemical process.

What your ignorant ass is talking about is how that sequence of chemicals is written down. This:
https://github.com/NAalytics/Assemblies-of-putative-SARS-CoV2-spike-encoding-mRNA-sequences-for-vaccines-BNT-162b2-and-mRNA-1273/blob/main/Assemblies%20of%20putative%20SARS-CoV2-spike-encoding%20mRNA%20sequences%20for%20vaccines%20BNT-162b2%20and%20mRNA-1273.docx.pdf

Just delete your account, tbh, this is embarrassing.

[DarrinS]

Just got back from a super unsafe party. Still trying for that free delta boost.

Hybrid immunity will probably nip that in the bud.

[ElNono]

Just got back from a super unsafe party. Still trying for that free delta boost.

Hybrid immunity will probably nip that in the bud.

Hopefully the liquor store attendant wasn't a person at risk...

[ChumpDumper]

No one cares about your drinking problem, Darrin.

[ChumpDumper]

The risk of heart inflammation is rare if you believe all you are told. Who knows the truth? But the stats presented show us that a boy 12-17 is significantly more likely to end up in the hospital from CAE (Cardiac Adverse Event) than from Covid infection.You can go to VAERS and tell them the vaccine killed you.


I am not anti-vaccine, but the mRNA genetic engineering experiment is NOT a vaccine. Do you know that the mRNA code is stored digitally? And that means that the code can be hacked. Let's hope that someone with nefarious intentions doesn't alter the code to do who knows what!
https://c.tenor.com/k2wAIzvBouMAAAAC/shaq-inside-the-nba.gif

[DarrinS]

Just got back from a super unsafe party. Still trying for that free delta boost.

Hybrid immunity will probably nip that in the bud.


Hopefully the liquor store attendant wasn't a person at risk...


No one cares about your drinking problem, Darrin.


Some people here 24/7.

Sad

[ChumpDumper]

Some people here 24/7.

SadYou say the same things every time you're drunk, Darrin.

Which is quite often tbh.

Sad.

[ElNono]

Some people here 24/7.

Sad

Rarely here these days... talking about that, time for Deathloop...

[American Citizen]

Rarely here these days.

With that screen name.

[boutons_deux]

Trump-loving megachurch pastor declares there is ‘no credible religious argument’ against vaccines

https://www.rawstory.com/media-library/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpbWFnZSI6I mh0dHBzOi8vYXNzZXRzLnJibC5tcy8yNzQ5OTM3My9vcmlnaW4 ucG5nIiwiZXhwaXJlc19hdCI6MTY3MTY1NTYwN30.XyGZEuFV7 iKeisOqmu1y2IGT6sh_wADmjBHJsw3L1GI/image.png?width=1200&height=675

Public health officials are receiving good news as major faith leaders are refusing to offer religious exemptions to vaccine mandates

"There is no credible religious argument against the vaccines," Jeffress declared.

https://www.rawstory.com/religious-exemption-vaccine-mandates/

[boutons_deux]

This Doctor Spread False Information About COVID. She Still Kept Her Medical License

https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2021/09/10/50755975893_95760fc3ab_o_slide-d200c679b9c1406c35ab9bfd35cd81b2de87739d-s1100-c50.jpg

Last month, Dr. Simone Gold stood before a crowd at a conservative church in Thousand Oaks, Calif., and delivered a talk riddled with misinformation.

She told people to avoid vaccination against the coronavirus. As an alternative, she pushed drugs that have not been proven effective at treating COVID-19 —

drugs that she also offered to prescribe to the audience in exchange for $90 telehealth appointments. :lol
"Don't text me when you've gotten a positive test; I don't want to hear it," she said to the gathering. "I've told you ahead of time to get the medicines. It can take a week because we're so swamped."

her 45-minute talk was contrary to the best science and medical standards (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/your-health/index.html) of care for treating COVID-19

NPR found that Gold's emergency medicine certification lapsed in December of last year, but she still is, as she claims, a licensed physician in the state of California

(her license lists her professional address as a UPS shipping store in Beverly Hills).

she has what might be considered a professional clean bill of health with no complaints, disciplinary actions or malpractice lawsuits on her record.

NPR looked at medical licenses for 16 doctors, including Gold, who have proven track records of doing so online and in media interviews. Fifteen of the 16 had active licenses in good standing.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/09/14/1035915598/doctors-covid-misinformation-medical-license

[hater]

Some people here 24/7.

Sad

:lol

Chump

[hater]

With that screen name.

:lol

[hater]

Plus, I already stated I'm ok if they don't want to do boosters on kids... I get it. That doesn't mean adults shouldn't.

FDA sayis healthy ones dont need it

[hater]

https://twitter.com/ThoriumCobaltG/status/1439471170403901443?s=19

[leemajors]

:lol

Chump

you

[Adam Lambert]

Just got back from a super unsafe party. Still trying for that free delta boost.

Hybrid immunity will probably nip that in the bud.

https://pics.me.me/nathan-fielder-nathanfielder-out-on-the-town-having-the-time-29939708.png

[Adam Lambert]

"To many medical providers working today, the rejection of lifesaving COVID-19 vaccines feels like a giant 'Fuck you' from 29 percent of American adults. We will keep providing the best care possible, but they are making our job much harder," Karkowsky writes.

“What makes me the maddest,” one doctor friend told Karkowsky, “is that these people will reject science right until the second they need everything I have to keep them alive, and then they feel that they can come to our door and be entitled to that help and that hard work.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/08/health-care-workers-compassion-fatigue-vaccine-refusers/619716/

[boutons_deux]

Kansas NEVER fails us :lol

'You’re killing people':

Doctors warn business sponsors ahead of Kansas anti-vax rally

TOPEKA — A prominent anti-vaccination group has planned a “freedom rally" for Monday in Lenexa with the sponsorship of a

nursing agency,
midwifery,
dental office,
chiropractors,
pharmacies and
businesses that

promote the healing properties of elderberries, tea biotics, red light therapy, hemp and gluten-free baked goods.

An $89 ticket gains entry to a church :lol

where political figure Kris Kobach :lol

will join a stable of speakers with a history of downplaying the pandemic and sowing disbelief in the safety and efficacy of vaccines.

https://www.rawstory.com/kansas-freedom-rally

[MultiTroll]

How The Ivermectin Culture Wars Took Off : Shots - Health News : NPR (https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/09/19/1038369557/ivermectin-anti-vaccine-movement-culture-wars)

[Sam da Sham]

You can go to VAERS and tell them the vaccine killed you.

Are you saying you don't trust the Vaers' data? Then you don't trust the government 'cause they're the ones who set it up. I agree, they could have done a lot better job at this. It is accepted that the VAERS data is just a small fraction of the "true" cases, since it is voluntary, and a high percentage of doctors don't even use it.

And if you don't trust the VAERS data and you don't trust the government, then why do you trust the clot shots?

[DMC]

:lol

Chump

Literally 24/7. I can post at 3:27am on Sunday morning and 1 second later there's an ignored response right below my post from that faggot :lol

[Sam da Sham]

This Doctor Spread False Information About COVID. She Still Kept Her Medical License

Last month, Dr. Simone Gold stood before a crowd at a conservative church in Thousand Oaks, Calif., and delivered a talk riddled with misinformation.
She told people to avoid vaccination against the coronavirus. As an alternative, she pushed drugs that have not been proven effective at treating COVID-19 —

she has what might be considered a professional clean bill of health with no complaints, disciplinary actions or malpractice lawsuits on her record.

So, you got a problem with a doctor who is trying to get medicine to people that can save their lives if they get sick?

[ChumpDumper]

Are you saying you don't trust the Vaers' data? Then you don't trust the government 'cause they're the ones who set it up. I agree, they could have done a lot better job at this. It is accepted that the VAERS data is just a small fraction of the "true" cases, since it is voluntary, and a high percentage of doctors don't even use it.

And if you don't trust the VAERS data and you don't trust the government, then why do you trust the clot shots?I trust data for what it is.

VAERS, especially now, is largely garbage data.

I took two "clot shots" and I'm still here. Even your garbage data supported my decision.:tu

[ChumpDumper]

Literally:lol DMC's language fails

[Sam da Sham]

:lmao rando Missouri hospital whistleblower... gatewaypundit... how about the rest of the world? Everybody is lying? rofl

What happened to all those refrigerated trucks that were going to have to store all the dead bodies?



There's nothing 'mad scientist' about it. That's why we have trials on animals first, then on humans. These vaccines underwent those trials as well.

So, you think there is nothing 'mad scientist" about Dr. Faucistein and his pals cooking up a chimera 'monster' and letting it loose on the world?



The successful use of mRNA dates back to 1990 (https://www.nature.com/articles/nrd.2017.243). This is a field that has been in research for over 30 years. Only recently we had the tech to refine and mass produce them.

It takes 10 to 20 years to test a vaccine and get it to market - and still it is just a 1 in 50 shot to be successful. Good luck with this one.



No I'm not. mRNA is a molecule (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messenger_RNA), there's nothing digital about it. The genetic sequence is contained in nucleotides (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nucleotide). It's entirely a chemical process.

Yes, mRNA is a molecule - but it is a molecule put together by a CODE - and that CODE is stored digitally. This technology would not even be possible without modern super computers.

[ChumpDumper]

What happened to all those refrigerated trucks that were going to have to store all the dead bodies? They've been storing dead bodies all over the US.

[Sam da Sham]

I trust data for what it is.

VAERS, especially now, is largely garbage data.

I took two "clot shots" and I'm still here. Even your garbage data supported my decision.:tu

The best man at my wedding took two and he's not. Good luck!

My garbage data? No, you mean the government's garbage data.

[ChumpDumper]

The best man at my wedding took two and he's not. Good luck!I'm doing great.

What happened to him?


My garbage data? No, you mean the government's garbage data.Sure. Why do you trust the government's garbage data and not the good data from nongovernment sources?

[ElNono]

FDA sayis healthy ones dont need it

Not what they said, they said they need more data. Why lie about this? It's been widely reported...

[hater]

VAERS, especially now, is largely garbage data.


:lmao doesnt know what Vaers is for :lol

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao doesnt know what Vaers is for :lolTell us all, in your own words, what VAERS is for.

[hater]

Not what they said, they said they need more data. Why lie about this? It's been widely reported...

Correct. Which means they do not recommend it NOW. According to FDA healthy adults dont need booster right NOW.

Follow the science :tu

[Sam da Sham]

I'm doing great.

What happened to him?

Last time I talked to him he told me that the 2nd Moderna shot made him really sick. A month ago he wasn't feeling well so wife took him to the hospital to get checked out, didn't even think it was a big deal. One thing led to another and he ended up dead. Wife mentioned possible blood clot but who knows without autopsy. He was a great guy and we had many great times together. Going to miss him.


Sure. Why do you trust the government's garbage data and not the good data from nongovernment sources?

I don't trust any data without doing a lot of research as to its authenticity. And honestly Chump, I understand that this is one of those situations that you can't win at. You're damned if you do and damned if you don't. I hope the supposed vaccine works, but if it doesn't you better have something else in your medicine cabinet.

[Winehole23]

"supposed vaccine" :rollin

the stampeding herd of skeptical libertarian freethinkers :rollin

[hater]

Tell us all, in your own words, what VAERS is for.

"In your own words"

Idiot just go to the site and you will see right there a.description what its for.


:lol.doesnt know what Vaers is for :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Last time I talked to him he told me that the 2nd Moderna shot made him really sick. A month ago he wasn't feeling well so wife took him to the hospital to get checked out, didn't even think it was a big deal. One thing led to another and he ended up dead. Wife mentioned possible blood clot but who knows without autopsy. He was a great guy and we had many great times together. Going to miss him.How was there not an autopsy if he was hospitalized?


I don't trust any data without doing a lot of research as to its authenticity.You've expressed your trust in the VAERS data. Why?


And honestly Chump, I understand that this is one of those situations that you can't win at. You're damned if you do and damned if you don't. I hope the supposed vaccine works, but if it doesn't you better have something else in your medicine cabinet.The vaccines work; that's been thoroughly proved since their distribution.

And if you get symptomatic, get the monoclonal antibody treatment which I assume you trust because Trump and Joe Rogan immediately got them.

[ChumpDumper]

"In your own words"

Idiot just go to the site and you will see right there a.description what its for.


:lol.doesnt know what Vaers is for :lol:lmao hater's quickest and biggest fold yet!

Just tell us in your own words, hater. Drop det knokwledge.

[Ef-man]

Guess Hater forgot to read the fine print in VAERS:

Any adverse event that occurs after the administration of a vaccine licensed in the United States, whether it is or is not clear that a vaccine caused the adverse event.

VAERS accepts reports from anyone. Patients, parents, caregivers and healthcare providers (HCP) are encouraged to report adverse events after vaccination to VAERS even if it is not clear that the vaccine caused the adverse event. In addition, HCP are required to report certain adverse events after vaccination.

:lol

[ElNono]

What happened to all those refrigerated trucks that were going to have to store all the dead bodies?


They've been storing dead bodies all over the US.


So, you think there is nothing 'mad scientist" about Dr. Faucistein and his pals cooking up a chimera 'monster' and letting it loose on the world?

Moar conspiracies. And we're talking mRNA, nice dodge attempt.


It takes 10 to 20 years to test a vaccine and get it to market - and still it is just a 1 in 50 shot to be successful. Good luck with this one.

Nothing lucky about it, and what you're saying is that it used to take 10 to 20 years.

It also used to take years to sequence DNA. It used to take years to develop tests. It used to take decades to build up infrastructure to create those tests and vaccines en masse. We can go on and on.

Because you're slow, stupid and stuck in the 1950's doesn't mean the rest of of the world is. This virus was fully sequenced two months after showing up.

Having that DNA sequence enabled the start of vaccine and tests development. Three months in we had the first tests, which then went to be produced en masse within the year.

All the vaccines that were developed underwent the same human trials like every vaccine does. Only after that they can even request emergency authorization.

And all this didn't start from zero. Besides the 30+ years of mRNA research, companies like AstraZeneca have been working on adenovirus vector vaccines for decades as well, thus why they had a quick turnaround.

Wasn't their fist vaccine development either, they were already being tested for Malaria and H1V.


Yes, mRNA is a molecule - but it is a molecule put together by a CODE - and that CODE is stored digitally. This technology would not even be possible without modern super computers.

Why keep doubling down on stupid? I already posted what that 'code' looks like, and we already established this is entirely a chemical process.

And no, you don't need 'modern super computers', you need things like a Agilent 2100 Bioanalyzer (https://www.agilent.com/en/product/automated-electrophoresis/bioanalyzer-systems/bioanalyzer-instrument/2100-bioanalyzer-instrument-228250) which reads in molecular chains and spit them out as that 'code' you know nothing about.


Enough with the free lessons. Looks like you're another derp/Cosmoretard, so off you go into the void with them.

[ElNono]

Correct. Which means they do not recommend it NOW. According to FDA healthy adults dont need booster right NOW.

Follow the science :tu

Nope. If they didn't recommend it, they'll say they don't recommend it and they'll have the data to back up that denial. That's not what they said.

There's no point in lying about this, the statements are public :tu

[ElNono]

I will agree with you that the determination is on pause pending more data though. That's certainly what happened. And maybe they won't approve it after all either.

We'll see what the science says.

[hater]

Nope. If they didn't recommend it, they'll say they don't recommend it and they'll have the data to back up that denial. That's not what they said.

There's no point in lying about this, the statements are public :tu

They did not say "we recommend boosters for healthy adults." Therefore they did not recommend it. :tu

Follow the science :tu

[Winehole23]

They did not say "we recommend boosters for healthy adults." Therefore they did not recommend it. :tu

Follow the science :tu
FDA good now.

You'll change your tune when they recommend.

[ElNono]

They did not say "we recommend boosters for healthy adults." Therefore they did not recommend it. :tu

Follow the science :tu

"Need more data"... they're following the science :tu

[boutons_deux]

Yet another Republican-created crisis;

yet another demand that the rest of America bail them out

the state of Idaho's near-complete incompetence at dealing with the COVID-19 pandemic has resulted in adjacent Washington State hospitals having to pick up the slack.

Northern Idaho hospitals are now so inundated with patients that crisis rationing of health care (https://www.dailykos.com/story/2021/9/7/2050890/-Hospitals-in-Republican-led-state-given-permission-to-ration-care-amid-COVID-19-surge) was announced last week.

In Washington, the new flood of Idaho pandemic patients is resulting in postponed brain cancer surgeries and overwhelmed emergency rooms.

Republican Idaho Gov. Brad Little's clownish pandemic incompetence is flat-out killing people, and not all of them are in Idaho.

It's yet another case of a red-state Republican government completely botching—on purpose—the response to a public crisis

while leaving it to the public and to nearby better-run governments to clean up the wreckage

he steadfastly declares his continued determination to do little to nothing to respond to the medical now-crisis in his state.

Idaho's 40% vaccination rate is among the nation's lowest,

plan appears to be ...

”If we claim it's patriotic not to try, then nobody can blame us for the staggering numbers of deaths.”

Not only do the state's conservative operators feel proud about doing absolutely nothing of note to tamp down an infection rate that has state hospitals in crisis,

they continue to take steps to ensure nobody else is allowed to mitigate the damage either.

https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2021/9/13/2052023/-Idaho-Republicans-sent-their-state-into-pandemic-crisis-Now-it-s-spreading-over-state-borders

[boutons_deux]

shitbag news from shithole Texas

Texas restaurant kicks out family because they were wearing masks to protect at-risk infant

https://www.rawstory.com/media-library/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpbWFnZSI6I mh0dHBzOi8vYXNzZXRzLnJibC5tcy8yNzUwMjE0Ni9vcmlnaW4 uanBnIiwiZXhwaXJlc19hdCI6MTY0OTI2NjM5OH0.tShLWLtbA pdI2YNj-U4ZieIWULSXzq_0lriyCX5mLtM/image.jpg?width=1200&height=675


the incident occurred while she was dining with her husband at Hang Time restaurant in Rowlett.

Wester said that they chose to wear masks even though they are vaccinated to protect the health of their 4-month-old son.

“Our waitress came over, sat down next to me and said,

'Our manager told me to come over because I am nicer than he is…

But this is political and I need you to take your masks off,'"

https://www.rawstory.com/texas-restaurant-no-masks

[Sam da Sham]

Moar conspiracies. And we're talking mRNA, nice dodge attempt.

Mad Scientist is a Mad Scientist - whacha think - according to Dr. Faucistein it was all worth the risk...



Nothing lucky about it, and what you're saying is that it used to take 10 to 20 years.

It still does. It takes years to see if there are any problems. They learned their lesson with the RSV vaccine after they killed some kids and found out that vaccines can make kids sicker than the virus. It was a real surprise to the people who thought they had all the answers - kind of like the present situation.



It also used to take years to sequence DNA. It used to take years to develop tests. It used to take decades to build up infrastructure to create those tests and vaccines en masse. We can go on and on.

Benjamin Franklin got it right: "Great Haste makes Great Waste"



Because you're slow, stupid and stuck in the 1950's doesn't mean the rest of of the world is.

We made it to the moon in 1968 I guess because we were slow and stupid. Haven't been back, guess cause we are getting slower and stupider.



All the vaccines that were developed underwent the same human trials like every vaccine does. Only after that they can even request emergency authorization.

No they didn't. They are undergoing the human trials right now with anyone who got the jab. And legally they could only get emergency authorization if there was not other treatments - and that is why all other treatments had to be bad-mouthed.



And all this didn't start from zero. Besides the 30+ years of mRNA research, companies like AstraZeneca have been working on adenovirus vector vaccines for decades as well, thus why they had a quick turnaround. Wasn't their fist vaccine development either, they were already being tested for Malaria and H1V.

Where is the vaccine for malaria and HIV? There isn't one that I know of. And what was Moderna's first vaccine? Oh wait, they never had one before.



And no, you don't need 'modern super computers', you need things like a Agilent 2100 Bioanalyzer (https://www.agilent.com/en/product/automated-electrophoresis/bioanalyzer-systems/bioanalyzer-instrument/2100-bioanalyzer-instrument-228250) which reads in molecular chains and spit them out as that 'code' you know nothing about.

Bioanalyzers have powerful processors in them. They have software. They are computers.[/QUOTE]

[SnakeBoy]

Comparative Effectiveness of Moderna, Pfizer-BioNTech, and Janssen (Johnson & Johnson) Vaccines in Preventing COVID-19 Hospitalizations Among Adults Without Immunocompromising Conditions — United States, March–August 2021
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7038e1.htm?s_cid=mm7038e1_e&ACSTrackingID=USCDC_921-DM66022&ACSTrackingLabel=MMWR%20Early%20Release%20-%20Vol.%2070%2C%20September%2017%2C%202021&deliveryName=USCDC_921-DM66022#T2_down

Moderna 93%
Pfizer 88%
J&J 71%

...and dropping. Rough winter ahead for Biden.

[SnakeBoy]

shitbag news from shithole Texas

Texas restaurant kicks out family because they were wearing masks to protect at-risk infant

https://www.rawstory.com/media-library/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpbWFnZSI6I mh0dHBzOi8vYXNzZXRzLnJibC5tcy8yNzUwMjE0Ni9vcmlnaW4 uanBnIiwiZXhwaXJlc19hdCI6MTY0OTI2NjM5OH0.tShLWLtbA pdI2YNj-U4ZieIWULSXzq_0lriyCX5mLtM/image.jpg?width=1200&height=675


the incident occurred while she was dining with her husband at Hang Time restaurant in Rowlett.

Wester said that they chose to wear masks even though they are vaccinated to protect the health of their 4-month-old son.

“Our waitress came over, sat down next to me and said,

'Our manager told me to come over because I am nicer than he is…

But this is political and I need you to take your masks off,'"

https://www.rawstory.com/texas-restaurant-no-masks

:tu

[hater]

"Need more data"... they're following the science :tu

Correct :tu

Not recommended yet. :tu

Folow the science :tu

[hater]

Comparative Effectiveness of Moderna, Pfizer-BioNTech, and Janssen (Johnson & Johnson) Vaccines in Preventing COVID-19 Hospitalizations Among Adults Without Immunocompromising Conditions — United States, March–August 2021
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7038e1.htm?s_cid=mm7038e1_e&ACSTrackingID=USCDC_921-DM66022&ACSTrackingLabel=MMWR%20Early%20Release%20-%20Vol.%2070%2C%20September%2017%2C%202021&deliveryName=USCDC_921-DM66022#T2_down

Moderna 93%
Pfizer 88%
J&J 71%

...and dropping. Rough winter ahead for Biden.

:lol my Janssen will bet at or below 50% by christmas :lol

Fuck it im one and done. Bring me a free boost :tu

:lol

[hater]

shitbag news from shithole Texas

Texas restaurant kicks out family because they were wearing masks to protect at-risk infant

https://www.rawstory.com/media-library/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpbWFnZSI6I mh0dHBzOi8vYXNzZXRzLnJibC5tcy8yNzUwMjE0Ni9vcmlnaW4 uanBnIiwiZXhwaXJlc19hdCI6MTY0OTI2NjM5OH0.tShLWLtbA pdI2YNj-U4ZieIWULSXzq_0lriyCX5mLtM/image.jpg?width=1200&height=675


the incident occurred while she was dining with her husband at Hang Time restaurant in Rowlett.

Wester said that they chose to wear masks even though they are vaccinated to protect the health of their 4-month-old son.

“Our waitress came over, sat down next to me and said,

'Our manager told me to come over because I am nicer than he is…

But this is political and I need you to take your masks off,'"

https://www.rawstory.com/texas-restaurant-no-masks

Good shit :tu

[boutons_deux]

54 Percent Back Vax Requirements for Indoor Activities

as COVID Fears Rise Among Republicans

https://www.newsweek.com/54-percent-back-vax-requirements-indoor-activities-covid-fears-rise-among-republicans-1630602

[boutons_deux]

Most private insurers are no longer waiving cost-sharing for COVID-19 treatment


https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/brief/most-private-insurers-are-no-longer-waiving-cost-sharing-for-covid-19-treatment/

[boutons_deux]

Montana health officer says he was forced to resign after being blamed for death after doc denies livestock drug (https://www.rawstory.com/montana-health-official-blamed-deaths/)
https://www.rawstory.com/montana-health-official-blamed-deaths

[hater]

:lmao Falsuchi looking like Mr Ed. With a carrot up his ass :lmao

https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1439581722652430337?s=20

[boutons_deux]

Fox News Poll: Most Americans Back Vaccine and Mask Mandates

Almost three-quarters of registered voters, or 74 percent, say they are “extremely” or “very” concerned about the pandemic, which marks a five-point increase from August (https://static.foxbusiness.com/foxbusiness.com/content/uploads/2021/09/Fox_September-12-15_National_Topline_September-19-Release.pdf).

Clear majorities of Americans believe masks and vaccines are effective and 67 percent said they support mandating that students and teachers wear masks in schools.

A similar number, 66 percent, agree businesses should also require masks of employees and customers.

Vaccine mandates aren’t quite as popular, but still have clear support from the majority with 61 percent backing requirements that teachers get vaccinated,

while 55 percent support vaccine requirements for business employees.

A similar number, or 54 percent, support cities and towns requiring proof of vaccination to take part in indoor activities, a four-point increase from last month.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/09/fox-news-poll-americans-back-vaccine-mask-mandates.html?via=rss

[Ef-man]

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[pgardn]

:lmao Falsuchi looking like Mr Ed. With a carrot up his ass :lmao

https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1439581722652430337?s=20

Whats the problem with a booster for YOU?
Will it kill you? what? tell us.

[SnakeBoy]

One man wrecking crew in Australia

1439301604553994241

[pgardn]

One man wrecking crew in Australia

1439301604553994241

Probably a rugby dude.

[boutons_deux]

Anti-vaxx 'needle rape' doc is at the center of Idaho’s COVID ‘implosion’ (https://www.rawstory.com/idaho/)


https://www.rawstory.com/media-library/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpbWFnZSI6I mh0dHBzOi8vYXNzZXRzLnJibC5tcy8yNzUwNTE4MC9vcmlnaW4 ucG5nIiwiZXhwaXJlc19hdCI6MTY3MDE1ODc1OH0.XZpLCdhxT zWcUSNRwFFebR-_B2dIrJXuOQlrwPo9AUk/image.png?width=1200&height=675

A far-right doctor who calls COVID-19 vaccines "needle rape" is exacerbating Idaho's ongoing coronavirus crisis —

which has left the state with a shortage of ICU beds and forced hospitals to turn away less-critical patients.

Ryan Cole, a dermatopathologist, was recently elected to Central District Health, which oversees health-care issues for roughly one-third of Idaho residents,

he has called the COVID-19 vaccines 'fake' and

even likened the safe and effective shots to 'needle rape.'

He has also pushed wild, unsubstantiated theories,

like linking mRNA vaccines to cancer,

while becoming a darling of the far right."

Dr. Ted Epperly, ... "To watch my state implode over political decisions that have adverse consequences on health is horrifying to me. … That's the tragedy that I'm watching unfold."

https://www.rawstory.com/idaho

[boutons_deux]

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[DMC]

Whats the problem with a booster for YOU?
Will it kill you? what? tell us.

"us"

:lol

Spokesman for the crew

[DMC]

:tu

Wants to protect their son from themselves.

Takes him to a restaurant in Rowlett

:lol

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Anti-vaxx 'needle rape' doc is at the center of Idaho’s COVID ‘implosion’ (https://www.rawstory.com/idaho/)


https://www.rawstory.com/media-library/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpbWFnZSI6I mh0dHBzOi8vYXNzZXRzLnJibC5tcy8yNzUwNTE4MC9vcmlnaW4 ucG5nIiwiZXhwaXJlc19hdCI6MTY3MDE1ODc1OH0.XZpLCdhxT zWcUSNRwFFebR-_B2dIrJXuOQlrwPo9AUk/image.png?width=1200&height=675

A far-right doctor who calls COVID-19 vaccines "needle rape" is exacerbating Idaho's ongoing coronavirus crisis —

which has left the state with a shortage of ICU beds and forced hospitals to turn away less-critical patients.

Ryan Cole, a dermatopathologist, was recently elected to Central District Health, which oversees health-care issues for roughly one-third of Idaho residents,

he has called the COVID-19 vaccines 'fake' and

even likened the safe and effective shots to 'needle rape.'

He has also pushed wild, unsubstantiated theories,

like linking mRNA vaccines to cancer,

while becoming a darling of the far right."

Dr. Ted Epperly, ... >>>>>>>>>"To watch my state implode over political decisions that have adverse consequences on health is horrifying to me. … That's the tragedy that I'm watching unfold."<<<<<<<<<

https://www.rawstory.com/idaho

Good. Turnabout is fair play.

Let us proceed...

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Good!!! I'm pleased as fuckin' punch that we're doing that green colored one (Screaming at employees...) second from the bottom. That's the precise kind of shit that your side always pulls on us, bouts. Then CNN reports it while smirking no end. They ain't smikrin' now, by God. And they ain't reportin' it. But it's happening and will continue to happen. Outstanding!!!

Turnabout is fair play.

Let us proceed...

[hater]

https://twitter.com/SPM219/status/1439809401972428801?s=19

[hater]

:lol delta moved the goalposts :lol


Achieving 80 pc 'too low for Delta'
Leong Hoe Nam, an infectious diseases expert from Singapore's Rophi Clinic, said the Delta strain had moved the goalposts, in terms of what level of community vaccination was necessary.

They set a target of 80 per cent, which is too low … it would have worked fine for the Alpha strain but this is Delta, a variant with easily two to three times more transmissibility," Dr Leong said.

"They now need at least 90 per cent vaccination, which is technically not possible due to hardened anti-vaxxers or refusers

[hater]

https://twitter.com/StupidSingapore/status/1439985752603959298?s=19

[hater]

https://twitter.com/ElectionWiz/status/1439883142408593408?s=19

[hater]

https://twitter.com/PeaknikMicki/status/1435412125908803590?s=19

Joeseph Goebbels wetdream tbqh

[ChumpDumper]

:lol hater still hasn't discovered Simpson's paradox when it's been spoon fed to him twice.

[hater]

:lmao

https://twitter.com/jetsetradiolive/status/1439982199210745860?s=19

[ChumpDumper]

:lol vaxxed antivaxx hater's twitter meltdown continues

[SnakeBoy]

:lol delta moved the goalposts :lol


Achieving 80 pc 'too low for Delta'
Leong Hoe Nam, an infectious diseases expert from Singapore's Rophi Clinic, said the Delta strain had moved the goalposts, in terms of what level of community vaccination was necessary.

They set a target of 80 per cent, which is too low … it would have worked fine for the Alpha strain but this is Delta, a variant with easily two to three times more transmissibility," Dr Leong said.

"They now need at least 90 per cent vaccination, which is technically not possible due to hardened anti-vaxxers or refusers

If they get 90% they'll just have to move the goalpost again. No such thing as herd immunity in the real world.


What I was saying is that herd immunity probably doesn't exist with or without a vaccine. The concept is based on a closed system.

Called it

[Sam da Sham]

Teenage boys 6x more at risk from vaccines than Covid:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/09/09/teenage-boys-risk-vaccines-covid/

[spurraider21]

If Fauci is "the science", then FDA did not "follow the science". :lol

I hate that phrase "follow the science ".
:lol

[ElNono]

US COVID-19 Death Toll Surpasses That of 1918 Pandemic

The U.S. death toll from COVID-19 has surpassed that of the 1918 flu pandemic (https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/573011-us-covid-19-death-toll-surpasses-that-of-1918-pandemic), according to a tracker (https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html) from Johns Hopkins University. The Hill reports: The U.S. has passed 675,000 deaths, the estimated toll from the 1918 pandemic, which for a century had been the worst pandemic to hit the country. "The number of reported deaths from Covid in the US will surpass the toll of the 1918 flu pandemic this month," Tom Frieden, the former head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, tweeted earlier this month. "We cannot become hardened to the continuing, and largely preventable, tragedy."

Deaths from COVID-19 are also far from over. The U.S. is averaging about 2,000 more deaths from the virus every day, according to a New York Times tracker. Those deaths are overwhelmingly among the unvaccinated, though, highlighting that the continuing toll of COVID-19 is now largely preventable now that vaccines are widely available in the U.S. In 1918, there was no vaccine to help stop the flu pandemic. Still, the U.S. population was far smaller a century ago, meaning that the death rate from the 1918 pandemic is still higher than for COVID-19. E. Thomas Ewing, a Virginia Tech history professor, wrote in Health Affairs earlier this year that the death rate from the 1918 pandemic was about six in every 1,000 people, given the U.S. population at the time of around 100 million. The death rate from COVID-19 in the U.S. is about two in every 1,000 people. A disproportionate share of COVID-19 deaths are also in the United States. Worldwide, the 1918 flu killed far more people than COVID-19 has so far, at about 50 million compared to about 5 million.

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lol @ "just the sniffles"

[SnakeBoy]

US COVID-19 Death Toll Surpasses That of 1918 Pandemic

The U.S. death toll from COVID-19 has surpassed that of the 1918 flu pandemic (https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/573011-us-covid-19-death-toll-surpasses-that-of-1918-pandemic), according to a tracker (https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html) from Johns Hopkins University. The Hill reports: The U.S. has passed 675,000 deaths, the estimated toll from the 1918 pandemic, which for a century had been the worst pandemic to hit the country. "The number of reported deaths from Covid in the US will surpass the toll of the 1918 flu pandemic this month," Tom Frieden, the former head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, tweeted earlier this month. "We cannot become hardened to the continuing, and largely preventable, tragedy."

Deaths from COVID-19 are also far from over. The U.S. is averaging about 2,000 more deaths from the virus every day, according to a New York Times tracker. Those deaths are overwhelmingly among the unvaccinated, though, highlighting that the continuing toll of COVID-19 is now largely preventable now that vaccines are widely available in the U.S. In 1918, there was no vaccine to help stop the flu pandemic. Still, the U.S. population was far smaller a century ago, meaning that the death rate from the 1918 pandemic is still higher than for COVID-19. E. Thomas Ewing, a Virginia Tech history professor, wrote in Health Affairs earlier this year that the death rate from the 1918 pandemic was about six in every 1,000 people, given the U.S. population at the time of around 100 million. The death rate from COVID-19 in the U.S. is about two in every 1,000 people. A disproportionate share of COVID-19 deaths are also in the United States. Worldwide, the 1918 flu killed far more people than COVID-19 has so far, at about 50 million compared to about 5 million.

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lol @ "just the sniffles"

More than the sniffles but not at all comparable to 1918 adjusting for population

[ElNono]

Collins, Fauci endorse and explain FDA’s recommendation for limited use of boosters

U.S. health officials supported the recommendation from the FDA advisory panel that booster vaccines be limited to those 65 years and older and individuals at high risk for severe disease despite the expectation that the additional shots would be suggested for everyone who received the initial vaccination.

National Institutes of Health Director Francis Collins said Sunday that the guidance issued Friday by the Food and Drug Administration is in line with what the Biden administration planned for a booster rollout, though not identical.

“I think there's less difference between where we were in the middle of August and what the advisory committee said this past Friday,” Collins said on “Fox News Sunday.“

The administration announced in August that a rollout plan was being put in place for booster shots that would be initiated Sept. 20, but also specified that the plan itself was pending recommendations from the FDA. The people eligible for a booster would be those who received their second dose eight months earlier. The latest guidance from the FDA has led to some confusion over whether a booster shot is necessary for everyone.

“It would surprise me if it does not become clear over the next few weeks that the administration of boosters may need to be enlarged based upon the data that we've already seen both in the U.S. and in Israel,” Collins said.

Anthony Fauci, the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, also argued that the plan initially announced by the White House is in line with the advisory panel’s recommendation. Ultimately, he thinks the “proper regimen” will include the original two shots plus a booster for everyone, though it may not be necessary right now.

“You want to do that according to what the data tells you, including the risk-benefit ratio, particularly for the younger people who do not generally get as much severe disease as the elderly and others,” Fauci said Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press.“ “So, I believe that there's a good chance that as we get into the coming months, into the next year, that you will see the data pointing to the benefit of having a much broader blanket of people.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/09/19/collins-fauci-endorse-fda-vaccine-boosters-512749

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The good doctors following the science :tu

[hater]

:lmao Falsuchi

[hater]

https://twitter.com/jackreacharound/status/1440166265750843399?s=19

[boutons_deux]

Fox News Poll Finds Strong Majority Supports Masks, Vaccination

For months, Fox News hosts have been trying to convince Americans not to take basic steps to curb the spread of the coronavirus.

But the network's own polling shows that its disinformation has not swayed most voters.

On Sunday, the network released a poll (https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/fox-news-poll-mask-vaccine-mandates-pandemic-worries-increase?test=c2f41a50b64c243e353552ec0a5c22be) of registered voters that showed

strong support for both mask usage and COVID-19 vaccination. By a 69 percent - 28 percent margin

by a 65 percent - 29 percent margin they agreed that the vaccines are "safe and effective."

By a 56 percent - 41 percent margin they also back President Joe Biden's requirement that businesses with 100 workers or more conduct weekly coronavirus testing for any unvaccinated employee.

Last week, prime-time host Tucker Carlson called for "mass resistance (https://www.mediamatters.org/tucker-carlson/tucker-carlson-without-mass-resistance-conservatives-will-be-forced-take)" against vaccine requirements

Fox hosts have also ridiculed (https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2021/03/11/fox-mask-burn/?outputType=amp)) mask usage and urged viewers to call out those who wear them.

https://www.nationalmemo.com/fox-news-pandemic-poll

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Fox News Poll Finds Strong Majority Supports Masks, Vaccination

For months, Fox News hosts have been trying to convince Americans not to take basic steps to curb the spread of the coronavirus.

But the network's own polling shows that its disinformation has not swayed most voters.

On Sunday, the network released a poll (https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/fox-news-poll-mask-vaccine-mandates-pandemic-worries-increase?test=c2f41a50b64c243e353552ec0a5c22be) of registered voters that showed

strong support for both mask usage and COVID-19 vaccination. By a 69 percent - 28 percent margin

by a 65 percent - 29 percent margin they agreed that the vaccines are "safe and effective."

By a 56 percent - 41 percent margin they also back President Joe Biden's requirement that businesses with 100 workers or more conduct weekly coronavirus testing for any unvaccinated employee.

Last week, prime-time host Tucker Carlson called for "mass resistance (https://www.mediamatters.org/tucker-carlson/tucker-carlson-without-mass-resistance-conservatives-will-be-forced-take)" against vaccine requirements

Fox hosts have also ridiculed (https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2021/03/11/fox-mask-burn/?outputType=amp)) mask usage and urged viewers to call out those who wear them.

https://www.nationalmemo.com/fox-news-pandemic-poll




30 stacks High Society comin', bouts. Comin' end of this week, son---&---still counting, kids.

[boutons_deux]

Most private insurers are no longer waiving cost-sharing for COVID-19 treatment

we once again review how many private insurers are continuing to waive patient cost sharing for COVID-19 treatment.

We find that 72% of the two largest insurers in each state and DC (102 health plans) are no longer waiving these costs, and

another 10% of plans are phasing out waivers by the end of October.

https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/brief/most-private-insurers-are-no-longer-waiving-cost-sharing-for-covid-19-treatment/

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Most private insurers are no longer waiving cost-sharing for COVID-19 treatment

we once again review how many private insurers are continuing to waive patient cost sharing for COVID-19 treatment.

We find that 72% of the two largest insurers in each state and DC (102 health plans) are no longer waiving these costs, and

another 10% of plans are phasing out waivers by the end of October.

https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/brief/most-private-insurers-are-no-longer-waiving-cost-sharing-for-covid-19-treatment/

"by the end of October" that mother fucker squattin' in the White House will have attained another stack of High Society, bouts, and counting, son.

Let us proceed...

[Frenchfred]

Most private insurers are no longer waiving cost-sharing for COVID-19 treatment

we once again review how many private insurers are continuing to waive patient cost sharing for COVID-19 treatment.

We find that 72% of the two largest insurers in each state and DC (102 health plans) are no longer waiving these costs, and

another 10% of plans are phasing out waivers by the end of October.

https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/brief/most-private-insurers-are-no-longer-waiving-cost-sharing-for-covid-19-treatment/

good, it'll also bankrupt maga supporters :lmao

[hater]

good, it'll also bankrupt maga supporters :lmao

Only way less than 5% of them tho. As only 5% infected require hospitalizations

[Frenchfred]

Only way less than 5% of them tho. As only 5% infected require hospitalizations

you keep using your 1%, 5% here and there but at the end when you're dealing with dozens of millions of people, so 1%; 5%... of that accounts for a lot of people. All these republicans need to pay for their beloved capitalism.

[hater]

you keep using your 1%, 5% here and there but at the end when you're dealing with dozens of millions of people, so 1%; 5%... of that accounts for a lot of people. All these republicans need to pay for their beloved capitalism.

Not really.

You said Magatards. There are about 30 million Magatards in US. 5% of that is is about 1.5 million only and thats assuming everyone gets infected NOW. Which is not realistic. So only about 1.5 million would face financial issues. Then deaths are only 1% so we are talking about 300k magatards dead. Keep in mind this winter Covid will kill much more non magatards than that.

All in all there will still be 29 million magatards alive and well by next year :lol

[boutons_deux]

owning the libs, Repug politics more important than human life

Republican states Florida, Texas, Tennessee, and Georgia have dozens of dead teachers and staff

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2053335

[boutons_deux]

This Old Penn And Teller Clip Illustrating How Effective Vaccines Are Hits Differently In 2021

This slightly profane 2010 Penn And Teller clip really made them ahead of the curve

when it came to calling out the inanity of anti-vaxxer arguments.
https://digg.com/video/this-old-penn-and-teller-clip-illustrating-how-effective-vaccines-are-hits-differently-in-2021

[Winehole23]

good, it'll also bankrupt maga supporters :lmaoHorrible take.

This is the central problem with US healthcare. the inability to control costs effectively limits care to those who can afford it until people need to go to the ER. The US system is cruel and inefficient, which is a bad thing.

Amazing how quickly the principles of bien pensant liberals evaporate when they think their political enemies are getting hurt.

[boutons_deux]

No, the COVID-19 vaccines don't cause male infertility — but the virus might

there is no scientific evidence that the COVID-19 vaccine will negatively affect a male reproductive system.

Yet contracting the virus itself can (https://www.salon.com/2021/07/28/covid-19-could-cause-male-infertility-and-sexual-dysfunction--but-vaccines-do-not_partner/) cause male reproductive health issues.

published reports that catching COVID-19 can be associated

with testicular pain,

an increased frequency of erectile dysfunction (https://www.salon.com/2021/05/13/covid-19-may-increase-chance-of-erectile-dysfunction-studies-say/), and

a temporary reduction in sperm production."

https://www.alternet.org/2021/09/19-vaccine-infertility/

[boutons_deux]

Kentucky schools overwhelmingly keep mask mandates

after Republicans scrapped state requirement (https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/09/21/coronavirus-kentucky-schools-masks/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F34be309%2F614a02fc9d2fda9d41db821b%2F59740db3 ade4e21a8493fdae%2F50%2F74%2F614a02fc9d2fda9d41db8 21b)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/09/21/coronavirus-kentucky-schools-masks

[Frenchfred]

Horrible take.

This is the central problem with US healthcare. the inability to control costs effectively limits care to those who can afford it until people need to go to the ER. The US system is cruel and inefficient, which is a bad thing.

Amazing how quickly the principles of bien pensant liberals evaporate when they think their political enemies are getting hurt.

Sorry but I won't shed a tear over it. Their stupidity has cost thousands of lives, sadly the country becomes safer as they die.

[Winehole23]

Sorry but I won't shed a tear over it. Their stupidity has cost thousands of lives, sadly the country becomes safer as they die.That's sadism pure and simple.

Thanks for underscoring my point. :tu

[boutons_deux]

there's racial cleansing madness in their Confederate method

blacks throughout the Confederacy have suffered vastly more disease and death than their white master, some black neighborhoods almost emptied.

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/242185401_4340662802646663_5447262767990510906_n.j pg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=wwBBqk0wQWwAX8h4w62&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=5822f49d7f180c82c41a6b20a6e54f96&oe=616DD80F

[Frenchfred]

That's sadism pure and simple.

Thanks for underscoring my point. :tu

If you believe that they can be saved, then you are a fool. They made their bed. I'm just being pragmatic. The deaths of all the conservative TV, radio..hosts who were spreading the lies about the vaccines are actually saving lives.

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Simple...

Trump President.
Not Clinton.

Your side counted coup on the old man with a grin plastered on your faces.

Now I'm countin' coup on that cocksucker squattin' in the White House. And I ain't a stoppin' for all the rice in China.

[Winehole23]

If you believe that they can be saved, then you are a fool. Not stipulated, that's a strawman argument,

I do think that sadism demoralizes and undermines the sadist, though.

[Frenchfred]

Not stipulated, that's a strawman argument,

I do think that sadism demoralizes and undermines the sadist, though.

Republicans don't want to reform healthcare, maybe if they start losing more money, they'll understand. Everything could be avoided here, the deaths and the cost, they are the problem. After decades of debates, it is pretty obvious that they cannot or will not understand. So again, I won't shed a tear about their demise.

[boutons_deux]

Not stipulated, that's a strawman argument,

I do think that sadism demoralizes and undermines the sadist, though.

Repugs don't care about ethics, morality, or "undermined", as long as the have power and money, they roll on and roll over everything

[Winehole23]

Republicans don't want to reform healthcare, maybe if they start losing more money, they'll understand. Everything could be avoided here, the deaths and the cost, they are the problem. After decades of debates, it is pretty obvious that they cannot or will not understand. So again, I won't shed a tear about their demise.I agree that the GOP is horrible and needs to be burned to the ground. I just don't think wishing Republicans dead is the way to do it. Might even turn out to be counterproductive.

[Frenchfred]

I agree that the GOP is horrible and needs to be burned to the ground. I just don't think wishing Republicans dead is the way to do it. Might even turn out to be counterproductive.

I don't wish it, I just don't care. If some people die, I'd rather be them as it is better for the country in the long run.

[Sam da Sham]

This Old Penn And Teller Clip Illustrating How Effective Vaccines Are Hits Differently In 2021

This slightly profane 2010 Penn And Teller clip really made them ahead of the curve

when it came to calling out the inanity of anti-vaxxer arguments.
https://digg.com/video/this-old-penn-and-teller-clip-illustrating-how-effective-vaccines-are-hits-differently-in-2021


In 2020, the CDC reported that:


1 in 34 boys identified with autism


and that number is steadily increasing. What is acceptable? 1 in 20? 1 in 10? 1 in 2?

The Chinese figured out how to make vaccines in the 1500's - and that was before anyone even knew what a virus was. It was just "evil spirits" back then. The present day genetic engineering experiments are not vaccines. They don't provide immunity. They don't prevent infection. They don't prevent transmission. The Chinese 1500's version did.

[boutons_deux]

‘Delta has been brutal’: Covid-19 variant is decimating rural areas already reeling from the pandemic

Several states, including Florida and Georgia, have experienced the highest levels of hospitalizations to date in recent months, as the highly contagious variant sweeps through the country, and within those states, rural areas are especially hard-hit.

In Pahokee, where STAT previously exposed (https://www.statnews.com/2021/03/04/covid19-vaccines-for-rural-black-communities-going-to-wealthy-white-floridians/) vaccines intended for local Black and Hispanic local residents instead going to white people who drove there from out of town, there have been more deaths since Delta hit than at any other time in the pandemic

These numbers don’t tell the whole story, however, as a lower percentage of Black people than white people reach old age, when Covid-19 is most lethal.

“People of color in the U.S. tend to skew younger and are dying at younger ages,”

Within the United States, there are considerable variations in worst-hit communities, with some white rural areas (https://www.politico.com/news/2021/08/10/wyoming-delta-rural-coronavirus-503057) with low vaccination rates suffering deaths from Delta where they’d previously experienced minimal impact.

Elsewhere, the lack of health care infrastructure that contributed to deaths early in the pandemic is compounding the effects of Delta.

“Because of not having a hospital, a lot of people can be in the middle of a severe case before they finally go to another hospital.”

Florida is no longer reporting county-level data on Covid-19 deaths, :lol

The same factors that contributed to racial disparities during earlier waves of Covid, such as comorbidities and access to health care and transportation, have been relevant during the Delta surge,

The loosening of social distancing rules restrictions also likely hurt Black and Latino people, who are more likely to work in service industries

https://www.statnews.com/2021/09/21/delta-variant-covid19-decimating-rural-areas

[SnakeBoy]

Republicans don't want to reform healthcare,

Neither does Joe Biden

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[SnakeBoy]

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[SnakeBoy]

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[hater]

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:lmao

[SnakeBoy]

BLM the vaccine is a choice

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[hater]

BLM the vaccine is a choice

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:tu agreed with da brotha :tu

:lmao bidentards get in here and spin Deez sheetz :lmao :lol

[hater]

:lol. BLM and Magatards united against Biden :lol

You cant make this sheet up :lol


Cant wait for the BLM riots vs vax mandates.:lol

https://twitter.com/patyspinely/status/1440403311039967246?s=19

[SnakeBoy]

:tu agreed with da brotha :tu

:lmao bidentards get in here and spin Deez sheetz :lmao :lol

:lmao

[SnakeBoy]

:lol. BLM and Magatards united against Biden :lol


The political realignment marches forward

[SnakeBoy]

We published the findings of a multi-week investigation that shows only 83 of the 18,877 folks in Tom Green County who recovered from Covid suffered a subsequent re-infection between March 2020 and September 12 2021.

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Minutes after the piece was published, the San Angelo health authority went to YouTube declaring it best if recovered Covid survivors still get the vax. Superhuman immunity, or something.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J53X5h8b87s&t=7s

[hater]

:lmao "another uprising against The Man"

:lmao

https://twitter.com/chill__man/status/1440408976118595585?s=19

[hater]

Play stupid games :lol

https://twitter.com/KaydeeKing/status/1428763242063671305?s=19

[Adam Lambert]

:lol. BLM and Magatards united against Biden :lol

You cant make this sheet up :lol


Cant wait for the BLM riots vs vax mandates.:lol

https://twitter.com/patyspinely/status/1440403311039967246?s=19


Play stupid games :lol

https://twitter.com/KaydeeKing/status/1428763242063671305?s=19

"BLM is against mandates! Where is BLM on this subject?"

(Laugh emojis to hide my crippling loneliness)

[hater]

https://twitter.com/SportsNoBS/status/1440450312041426944?s=19

:lmao Biden turning every hostess and server in cities like NYC into. STASI agents :lmao

God help those poor bastards that make 20$/hr and now have to risk their lives asking for papers :lmao :lol :lmao

[SnakeBoy]

https://twitter.com/SportsNoBS/status/1440450312041426944?s=19

:lmao Biden turning every hostess and server in cities like NYC into. STASI agents :lmao

God help those poor bastards that make 20$/hr and now have to risk their lives asking for papers :lmao :lol :lmao

Chumpettes have nothing to say :lmao

[boutons_deux]

Anti-vax nurses' threats of mass resignations over mandates look like a gigantic bust in Maine

this threat has been mostly hot air so far in the Pine Tree State.

"Employment data shows that very few Maine health care workers have quit their jobs over the recent statewide COVID vaccine mandate, despite a number of lawsuits and ongoing protests organized by anti-vaccine activists,"

only 20 of its 10,000-plus staff members had quit in protest of Maine Gov. Janet Mills's vaccine mandate for health care workers.

https://www.rawstory.com/anti-vax-nurses-resignations

[hater]

Chumpettes have nothing to say :lmao

"Hello darkness my old friend..." :lmao

[Ef-man]

https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/210921123140-01-funeral-home-vaccinations-ad-agency-trnd-exlarge-169.jpg

[DarrinS]

Bexar county down to 4.9% down from 7.1% the previous week.

Schools still open, as they should be.

[DarrinS]

My son's school.

Enrollment: 3051 Cases: 0(0.0%)

Was 29 cases two weeks ago.

[hater]

My son's school.

Enrollment: 3051 Cases: 0(0.0%)

Was 29 cases two weeks ago.

Most kids probably absorved it no problem tbqh :tu

Great news :tu

[pgardn]

your son’s school defied governor Abbott

They bitch slapped him and required masks.
Hater is outraged they stole the freedoms of kids just like they are trying to get Cuban’s free from Castro.

Good to see Snakes teaming up with the intellectual power of hater. All is well for the red team with Abbott running the ship.

[baseline bum]

Bexar county down to 4.9% down from 7.1% the previous week.

Schools still open, as they should be.

Good to hear. I was concerned it might plateau for a while when it only dropped from 7.6% to 7.1% the week before.

[DarrinS]

Good to hear. I was concerned it might plateau for a while when it only dropped from 7.6% to 7.1% the week before.

I'll take any good news I can get. This whole thing is mentally exhausting.

[DarrinS]

Gotta get these cases down before fall/winter. We're at 85% with at least one jab.

[Winehole23]

Gotta get these cases down before fall/winter. We're at 85% with at least one jab.I thought you were let 'er rip guy.

now you think it's important to manage the caseload?

how should Biden do that, d'ye think?

[Winehole23]

in England and Germany this is no problem, what's our fucking deal?

why can't the US get its shit together?

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[DarrinS]

I thought you were let 'er rip guy.

now you think it's important to manage the caseload?

how should Biden do that, d'ye think?

I'm not a delusional covid zero guy.

I think its important to keep it manageable. Its with us forever.

[DarrinS]

Thanks China

[baseline bum]

in England and Germany this is no problem, what's our fucking deal?

why can't the US get its shit together?

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Kind of sucks you have to book PCR tests online. It was easy and quick for me to get tested when I had some symptoms last week (just allergies though most likely, test came back negative) but for older people who don't know how to use computers or a modern phone it sucks. They should let at least 65+ take PCR tests without an appointment.

[Thread]

Kind of sucks you have to book PCR tests online. It was easy and quick for me to get tested when I had some symptoms last week (just allergies though most likely, test came back negative) but for older people who don't know how to use computers or a modern phone it sucks. They should let at least 65+ take PCR tests without an appointment.

Especially after that cocksucker in the White House assured us we'd have tests up the wazoo.

[Thread]

Thanks China

Thanks to that mother fucker Biden as well, Darrin.

[ElNono]

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An open letter to world leaders on ending the COVID-19 pandemic now.

None of us are safe until all of us are safe.

We call on leaders gathering at the United Nations General Assembly Session to boldly act
together to end COVID-19 everywhere.

COVID-19 is now a manmade pandemic of apathy. Only 2% of people in low-income countries have received a single dose, leaving the world’s most vulnerable to face COVID with no
protection. This situation also lets new variants, like Delta, emerge and ravage the lives of
millions.

We are joining with CARE to call on global leaders to make 7 billion vaccine doses available before the end of 2021, and an additional 7 billion doses by mid-2022 to fully vaccinate 70%
of the world by next summer.

To get this done the world community must also invest in last-mile delivery systems, public education, and frontline healthcare workers to get vaccines from tarmacs into arms. Millions
of doses could go to waste because low-income countries don’t have the support they
need to get vaccines to vulnerable people.

We can save millions of lives — and trillions in further economic damage — by meeting this moment with the resources and political will needed to end COVID-19 for everyone,
everywhere. Because none of us are safe until all of us are safe.


Sounds reasonable to me...