Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

[TSA]

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-chinas-bat-woman-hunted-down-viruses-from-sars-to-the-new-coronavirus1/


This was before China shut us out.

Of course your article has Peter Daszak and Ralph Baric who pushed the proximal origin paper in Nature :lol

[SnakeBoy]

What you dont get is nature performs these experiments with viruses every second of every day.
And nature comes up with fantastic spreading machines such as the common cold viruses.
We still cant come up with better spreaders than evolution. Its odd that you cant understand this.

You really dont understand how powerful evolution and natural selection are in the natural world.
Inventions we would never even dream of on the molecular level. Once we see how they actually work.
And how we would have never predicted such unique molecular fits. these never even occurred to us.

In all of history, evolution hasn't produced a coronavirus like Sars-CoV-2 capable of infecting so many taxa with zero evolutionary steps

https://static.scientificamerican.com/sciam/cache/file/3F302C18-1DA6-4372-8E313E2FF2CF4D86_source.png?w=590&h=800&7FCA9D5B-86F0-4B0A-85C33D3BCBB7B7F0

When nature finally did produce Sars-CoV-2, it just coincidentally did it right next to a biolab that was researching and modifying coronaviruses.

[Ef-man]

In all of history, evolution hasn't produced a coronavirus like Sars-CoV-2 capable of infecting so many taxa with zero evolutionary steps

https://static.scientificamerican.com/sciam/cache/file/3F302C18-1DA6-4372-8E313E2FF2CF4D86_source.png?w=590&h=800&7FCA9D5B-86F0-4B0A-85C33D3BCBB7B7F0

When nature finally did produce Sars-CoV-2, it just coincidentally did it right next to a biolab that was researching and modifying coronaviruses.

Retard take

[Blake]

Related:

Biden missed deadline for declassifying intelligence on Wuhan lab and origins of COVID-19

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/biden-missed-deadline-declassifying-intel-origins-covid-19

Biden just needs to declare it declassified out loud like Trump. Magic.

[ElNono]

In all of history, evolution hasn't produced a coronavirus like Sars-CoV-2 capable of infecting so many taxa with zero evolutionary steps

When nature finally did produce Sars-CoV-2, it just coincidentally did it right next to a biolab that was researching and modifying coronaviruses.

This is at best misleading, and at worst false. Humans discovered the first coronavirus in 1965, so it makes sense we see this type of viruses as novel. The lab didn't exist then.

So, in all of history, nature didn't come up with a coronavirus until 60 years ago, before any Wuhan lab. You can make the same claim about nature on any number of viruses, pretty much.

COVID shows the same evolutionary paths as any other virus, including different mutations and strains, which is well documented.

[pgardn]

Of course your article has Peter Daszak and Ralph Baric who pushed the proximal origin paper in Nature :lol

Cool. And wtf difference does it make? It gets a point across you still dont understand.

Now read this you fkn idiot...

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2023-03-08/covid-lab-leak-energy-department-fbi

[SnakeBoy]

COVID shows the same evolutionary paths as any other virus, including different mutations and strains, which is well documented.

You're saying because Sars-CoV-2 underwent minor evolutionary changes after it magically appeared it's the same as any other virus. It's a ridiculous argument based on either ignorance or intentional deception. I think it's the former considering you went a long time believing Sars-CoV-2 was going to be eradicated with vaccines like smallpox and polio despite all evidence.



So, in all of history, nature didn't come up with a coronavirus until 60 years ago, before any Wuhan lab. You can make the same claim about nature on any number of viruses, pretty much.


That's just retarded. Coronaviruses didn't exist until we had the technology to identify them :lol.

[pgardn]

In all of history, evolution hasn't produced a coronavirus like Sars-CoV-2 capable of infecting so many taxa with zero evolutionary steps

https://static.scientificamerican.com/sciam/cache/file/3F302C18-1DA6-4372-8E313E2FF2CF4D86_source.png?w=590&h=800&7FCA9D5B-86F0-4B0A-85C33D3BCBB7B7F0

When nature finally did produce Sars-CoV-2, it just coincidentally did it right next to a biolab that was researching and modifying coronaviruses.

wtf are you even thinking about? viruses that infect primates have been around for a long time, as long as primates. you dont think mass extinctions or population reductions happen via viruses in natural settings? You think human beings as we know them, were not infected by different viruses that killed many off diff human populations across a wide range 100,000 years ago, the worst happen right NOW?

This is so fkn stupid its insane. It makes no sense to talk to these idiots. Once you say the word "evolution", the discussion has already become extraordinarily nuanced so as to render snaked AND mr. biomolecule TSA free of understanding any type of biological argument.

[SnakeBoy]

wtf are you even thinking about? viruses that infect primates have been around for a long time, as long as primates. you dont think mass extinctions or population reductions happen via viruses in natural settings? You think human beings as we know them, were not infected by different viruses that killed many off diff human populations across a wide range 100,000 years ago, the worst happen right NOW?

This is so fkn stupid its insane. It makes no sense to talk to these idiots. Once you say the word "evolution", the discussion has already become extraordinarily nuanced so as to render snaked AND mr. biomolecule TSA free of understanding any type of biological argument.

That not what was said. You're dodging.

[pgardn]

Look at these HEADLINES/;

NOVEL VIRUS INFECTS PENGUINS

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5512496/

Well holy shit. China has new research lab in ANTARTICA!

[pgardn]

That not what was said. You're dodging.

Im not dodging anything. Humans ARE primates.
You dont get it.
Read... for fks sake.

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2023-03-08/covid-lab-leak-energy-department-fbi

[pgardn]

Back to work.
Hope to check in again for laughs and then tears.
Our education system has failed.

[SnakeBoy]

Look at these HEADLINES/;

NOVEL VIRUS INFECTS PENGUINS

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5512496/

Well holy shit. China has new research lab in ANTARTICA!

Avulaviruses are primarily endemic bird viruses. None of them infect and transmit among a broad array of taxa like Sars-CoV-2. Try again.

[ElNono]

You're saying because Sars-CoV-2 underwent minor evolutionary changes after it magically appeared it's the same as any other virus. It's a ridiculous argument based on either ignorance or intentional deception. I think it's the former considering you went a long time believing Sars-CoV-2 was going to be eradicated with vaccines like smallpox and polio despite all evidence.

There's nothing magical about new viruses appearing and behaving like any other viruses, happens all the time and that's the point. That's actually a very concise part of evolution. Thanks for also walking back the claim it didn't undergo evolutionary changes.

Neither Polio or smallpox were ever completely eradicated, so I'm pretty confident that's a claim I didn't make. What I did say is that having working vaccines and treatments overall that reduced the incidence of infections would eventually make the disease a rarity, which is what happens with Polio and smallpox nowadays.

Time will tell if I'm correct on that, but the trend is certainly promising.


That's just retarded. Coronaviruses didn't exist until we had the technology to identify them :lol.

I was mocking your very claim. I agree that the notion that nature didn't produce a coronavirus like Sars-CoV-2 is a retarded claim :tu

Sorry this is happening to you.

[SnakeBoy]

I agree that the notion that nature didn't produce a coronavirus like Sars-CoV-2 is a retarded claim :tu


Other than Sars-CoV-2, name the coronavirus that infects and transmits among a broad array of unrelated species. I'll wait.

[TSA]

Cool. And wtf difference does it make? It gets a point across you still dont understand.

Now read this you fkn idiot...

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2023-03-08/covid-lab-leak-energy-department-fbi

Article written by Michael Worobey :rollin

Worobey is one of the main pushers of the proximal origin paper and the people quoted in his article Anderson and Garry were the authors of the proximal origin paper. This article also quotes Worobey's co-auther Eddie Holmes who was the one pushing the Racoon Dog theory :rollin

These are the same people who had the secret conference call with Fauci before authoring and pushing the proximal origin paper.

fkn idiot :lol

[ElNono]

Other than Sars-CoV-2, name the coronavirus that infects and transmits among a broad array of unrelated species. I'll wait.

Don't have to wait too long. MERS is certainly one, found in humans, bats and camels, amongst other species.

But why restrict it to just coronaviruses? After all, it's merely just one group of viruses. Plenty of other viruses like the flu who has been around for much longer that also infects and transmits among a broad array of unrelated species.

[SnakeBoy]

Don't have to wait too long. MERS is certainly one, found in humans, bats and camels, amongst other species.


MERS is an endemic camel coronavirus that occasionally infects camel fuckers who drink their piss. It's poorly transmissible in humans or other species. Try again.

Sars-CoV-2 is now endemic in a whole array of unrelated species which I've already shown you. There's no other coronavirus like it.

[pgardn]

Article written by Michael Worobey :rollin

Worobey is one of the main pushers of the proximal origin paper and the people quoted in his article Anderson and Garry were the authors of the proximal origin paper. This article also quotes Worobey's co-auther Eddie Holmes who was the one pushing the Racoon Dog theory :rollin

These are the same people who had the secret conference call with Fauci before authoring and pushing the proximal origin paper.

fkn idiot :lol

You have absolutely no clue about these guys. Or Fauci.
These are some of the best in the business at what they do and YOU, pizza boy, says they are worthless?
You take on fields you were not trained in and cant learn either.
You have no clue what you read or what you write. You understand close to zero on this subject.
Worthless piece of shit....

[pgardn]

Avulaviruses are primarily endemic bird viruses. None of them infect and transmit among a broad array of taxa like Sars-CoV-2. Try again.

Thats part of the idiocy you clown.
This is a virus that only is found in specific birds? Its NOVEL. How the fuck did it come about?
Many, many viruses can be traced because they have small amounts of genetic material and they give themselves up easily as long as one looks at enough closely related animals like vertebrates. And there are an absolute butt load of vertebrates. So because we cant find the right penguin virus as of this article it must also be produced in a lab? Or poof by God. Just like the first living cell?
This is part of how nature does it, jumping from species to species IS VERY COMMON. The only reason you think Covid is so special is because it caused a pandemic. You refuse to see how the rest of the viruses work because the Covid virus is definitively a lab leak case. THIS TOTAL THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT ONE WOULD DO IN LOOKING FOR ORIGINS. The virus that produces COVID DID NOT arrive poof. I mean why even use RNA as the genetic material in a Covid virus if people can just as easily manipulate DNA and viral DNA genes. DNA viruses appear not to mutate as quickly as RNA virus but fk that, we can make anything. The skies the limit because people and God make everything. Evolution through natural selection is a hoax, especially in human disease. That should get your ass thrown completely out of every hospital that deals with nosocomial infections. You just dont get it.

You keep thinking these things are magic creatures created by man because they cause diseases in man? That is just totally wacked. You know zero about viruses and origins. You think its poof magic because EVOLUTION is staring you right in the face because you are, a creationist at heart. Dont ever go near a school board when they are deciding on biology books. You are the perfect example of the dumbing down of the United States.

[pgardn]

And Fauci is a shitty scientist because he crossed Trump.
Because Trump knows all the best people.
And Trump is a expert in every field. Everyone says he is brilliant. I mean I heard him say he is the smartest guy in the room so he must be.
He knows better than military generals, scientists, economists, doctors, everyone!

Trump was gonna solve healthcare, Trump was gonna solve a crumbling infrastructure except... "who knew they were going to be so difficult?"

[ElNono]

MERS is an endemic camel coronavirus that occasionally infects camel fuckers who drink their piss. It's poorly transmissible in humans or other species. Try again.

Sars-CoV-2 is now endemic in a whole array of unrelated species which I've already shown you. There's no other coronavirus like it.

Why does that matter at all? You asked for coronavirus that "infects and transmits among a broad array of unrelated species", MERS fits that description: humans, bats and camels.

Whether a virus is more or less contagious or, for that matter, that's part of the group of coronaviruses is simply an arbitrary distinction.

COVID is a virus just like other viruses, with it's own set of peculiarities, evolves like other viruses, but is still a virus.

AIDS was a novel virus as well, with it's own set of properties, but nobody doubts it's a virus or that it was lab-made, and when we found it, it was novel as well.

Again, this is all fairly common. And we're likely to find new viruses all the time as well. That's exactly what evolution tells us to expect.

[SnakeBoy]

Thats part of the idiocy you clown.
This is a virus that only is found in specific birds? Its NOVEL. How the fuck did it come about?
Many, many viruses can be traced because they have small amounts of genetic material and they give themselves up easily as long as one looks at enough closely related animals like vertebrates. And there are an absolute butt load of vertebrates. So because we cant find the right penguin virus as of this article it must also be produced in a lab? Or poof by God. Just like the first living cell?
This is part of how nature does it, jumping from species to species IS VERY COMMON. The only reason you think Covid is so special is because it caused a pandemic. You refuse to see how the rest of the viruses work because the Covid virus is definitively a lab leak case. THIS TOTAL THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT ONE WOULD DO IN LOOKING FOR ORIGINS. The virus that produces COVID DID NOT arrive poof. I mean why even use RNA as the genetic material in a Covid virus if people can just as easily manipulate DNA and viral DNA genes. DNA viruses appear not to mutate as quickly as RNA virus but fk that, we can make anything. The skies the limit because people and God make everything. Evolution through natural selection is a hoax, especially in human disease. That should get your ass thrown completely out of every hospital that deals with nosocomial infections. You just dont get it.

You keep thinking these things are magic creatures created by man because they cause diseases in man? That is just totally wacked. You know zero about viruses and origins. You think its poof magic because EVOLUTION is staring you right in the face because you are, a creationist at heart. Dont ever go near a school board when they are deciding on biology books. You are the perfect example of the dumbing down of the United States.

Incoherent rant. Another dodge.

[pgardn]

Incoherent rant. Another dodge.

Of course.

Bottom line.
You dont understand evolution through natural selection.
And if something is really bad for humans it must be created by a lab or God or both.

You were most likely the part of the red team that thought AIDS was a plague created by God.
Were really that old and that stupid that far back?

[ElNono]

Biden administration releases intelligence on Wuhan lab
The 10-page document reveals no proof of either a lab leak or an animal host.

American intelligence agencies don’t know how the Covid-19 pandemic started, declassified intelligence says.

The Office of the Director of National Intelligence in a report released today said that all agencies of the government “continue to assess that both a natural and laboratory-associated origin remain plausible hypotheses to explain the first human infection.”

The report acknowledges that researchers at China’s Wuhan Institute of Virology, where scientists conducted coronavirus research in the city where Covid first emerged, fell ill in the fall of 2019, shortly before the pandemic began.

The Wall Street Journal, confirming reporting by journalists at the Substack blog Public, reported last week that one of the sick researchers, Ben Hu, had worked on coronaviruses with U.S. funding.

Advocates of the lab leak theory seized on the news as near-definitive proof that their hypothesis was correct.

But the intelligence report says it’s not so certain.

While several Wuhan Institute of Virology researchers “fell mildly ill in Fall 2019,” the report acknowledges, “they experienced a range of symptoms consistent with colds or allergies with accompanying symptoms typically not associated with COVID-19, and some of them were confirmed to have been sick with other illnesses unrelated to COVID-19.”

The report does confirm that the Wuhan lab did not always adhere to safety protocols in studying coronaviruses.

The intelligence agencies also say that institute researchers have genetically engineered coronaviruses, but the agencies do not have information showing the researchers worked on the strain that led to the pandemic.

The report says the Wuhan institute is known to have collaborated with the Chinese Army, but only on defensive projects related to improving China’s biosecurity and early disease warning capabilities.

The report also confirms the disagreement among U.S. agencies, with the National Intelligence Council and other intelligence agencies favoring the natural origin theory, while the FBI and Energy Department favor the lab leak hypothesis. The CIA has not taken a position.

The intelligence was released to comply with a law Congress passed unanimously and President Joe Biden signed in March.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/06/23/biden-administration-intelligence-wuhan-lab-00103523

[FuzzyLumpkins]

MERS is an endemic camel coronavirus that occasionally infects camel fuckers who drink their piss. It's poorly transmissible in humans or other species. Try again.

Sars-CoV-2 is now endemic in a whole array of unrelated species which I've already shown you. There's no other coronavirus like it.

Someone doesn't understand how evolution works.

Sure it is a weakly transmissible in that form. Now this one is better at it.

[Winehole23]

Lol COVID minimizers. Shit rocked our world and it still does.

[Winehole23]

What other novel pathogen besides the very underrated flu bug has so many chronic, systemic sequelae?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

What other novel pathogen besides the very underrated flu bug has so many chronic, systemic sequelae?

Lyme Disease

[Winehole23]

Lyme Diseasefar less transmissible than either, but yeah.

[Winehole23]

1673471666381307904

[FuzzyLumpkins]

far less transmissible than either, but yeah.

Environmentally relative but overall sure but it is far less treatable and much more consistent in its sequelae than both.

[SnakeBoy]

Someone doesn't understand how evolution works.

Sure it is a weakly transmissible in that form. Now this one is better at it.

You're acknowledging there is no other coronavirus like Sars-CoV-2

[SnakeBoy]

What other novel pathogen besides the very underrated flu bug has so many chronic, systemic sequelae?

Is there another novel virus spreading through the entire population?

Influenza causes the same. There's nothing new about post viral syndrome except the amount of money made available to study it in regards to covid.

[Winehole23]

Environmentally relative but overall sure but it is far less treatable and much more consistent in its sequelae than both.the number of people affected isn't in the same ballpark.

[Winehole23]

Is there another novel virus spreading through the entire population?

Influenza causes the same. There's nothing new about post viral syndrome except the amount of money made available to study it in regards to covid.No doubt. The flu has been irresponsibly downplayed and sequelae understudied.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

the number of people affected isn't in the same ballpark.

Sure because of environmental issues.

I still would rather have the flu or covid and its not even close.

[pgardn]

Sure because of environmental issues.

I still would rather have the flu or covid and its not even close.

No one really wanted Covid when the hospitals were full.
But Trumpers dont believe over-crowded hospitals ever happened.
And this is part of the landscape of this disease. We were trying to stop the spiking in cases all within the same time period.
Especially when we did not know how to properly treat people in the hospitals (how they lie in bed, no intubation, etc...)
This pandemic had very different affects on society which included time frame. And this is what Trumpers constantly lie about. Change the timing of events.

And then shit like a viral particle is smaller than the pores in any mask which is true.
But thats not how the thing infected people. It was airborne in water. Water droplets could contain thousands to millions of viral particles.
And the list of shit out on this board and by Trumpers in general was amazing. Snaked and Darrin were continually trying to throw shit at the wall.

[Winehole23]

Sure because of environmental issues.

I still would rather have the flu or covid and its not even close.you have no choice in the matter.

[TSA]

Interesting take on mental health issues and long Covid.


https://unherd.com/2023/06/is-liberal-society-making-us-ill/

[FuzzyLumpkins]

you have no choice in the matter.

Deer ticks do not go this far south.

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/JamesCTobias/status/1674489092791214107

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/COVIDSelect/status/1674501989806272519

[pgardn]

^earth shaking nothingville from the red team

We will get a full report as soon as the Chinese give us more info.
A lab leak causing the pandemic is incredibly stupid as the virus was already causing Covid cases in China.
Need a whole new set of labs working on a novel virus that was already found naturally.

Meanwhile penguins in Antarctica are experiencing infection by a novel virus and there is a Chinese research station in Antarctica. please check this out.
Proximity coincidence? TSA is on the slippery slope Pizza trail sliding down on a pepperoni.

[Winehole23]

Deer ticks do not go this far south.so you're not worried so much about Lyme disease, glad to hear.

[Winehole23]

https://twitter.com/JamesCTobias/status/1674489092791214107Trump appointee tried to hide the ball?

Totally unsurprising, but, totally in accord with the will of his boss.

[Winehole23]

There was heavy political pressure on public health officials to stay mum. Doesn't make it right, but the fish rots from the head down.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

so you're not worried so much about Lyme disease, glad to hear.

Exactly bro. I am just saying that the after effects of COVID are hardly the worst and there are pathogens who pretty much guarantee it happening. COVID certainly needs to be continued to be studied and it is wise to take preventative measures. I just do not think we need a new level of worry.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

What is crazy to me is the ~1 in 10 incidence of non-symptomatic infection.

[SnakeBoy]

Anecdotally, it seems Arcturus strain is on the rise in SA area. It packs a little more wallop than omicron. More like a flu than the sniffles. Commonly 102-104 fever, body aches, coughing & chest congestion. Paxlovid shuts down most symptoms in 1 to 2 doses. The ones I know who just rode it out naturally started seeing symptom's resolve on days 4 or 5.

[pgardn]

Anecdotally, it seems Arcturus strain is on the rise in SA area. It packs a little more wallop than omicron. More like a flu than the sniffles. Commonly 102-104 fever, body aches, coughing & chest congestion. Paxlovid shuts down most symptoms in 1 to 2 doses. The ones I know who just rode it out naturally started seeing symptom's resolve on days 4 or 5.

We dont need people sick because the symptoms keep them down. The vaccine preliminary results show it reduces symptoms and protects.

"I need you at work so get vaccinated. American productivity and all that rot... "

[SnakeBoy]

We dont need people sick because the symptoms keep them down. The vaccine preliminary results show it reduces symptoms and protects.

"I need you at work so get vaccinated. American productivity and all that rot... "

You've gotten to the point where your responses are always to some weird conversation going on in your head and not what was actually posted

[pgardn]

You've gotten to the point where your responses are always to some weird conversation going on in your head and not what was actually posted

You are an antivaxxer.
And you like to talk economics.
Put these together and reread.

[SnakeBoy]

You are an antivaxxer.
And you like to talk economics.
Put these together and reread.

lol I'm not an antivaxxer. I just didn't get addicted to unnecessary boosters (scientifically proven) like you vaccine cultists.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol "addicted"

Snacks really trying hard.

[pgardn]

lol I'm not an antivaxxer. I just didn't get addicted to unnecessary boosters (scientifically proven) like you vaccine cultists.

What a pile of shit. Not an antivaxxer. So you think, for PUBLIC HEALTH reasons, people should have taken the pin prick ?

The vaccine, like the others, appears to prevent bad symptoms.
So you wont get it if it would save you 4 work days? I certainly would.
Oh. You dont work. You are retired... okay I understand, you would be lying in bed anyways.

[Winehole23]

Continual reinfection is hazardous to your health.

1677742310136639489

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Continual reinfection is hazardous to your health.

1677742310136639489

Sure and there is a large percentage of asymptomatic infections too.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9321237/


Conclusion: In this systematic review and meta-analysis, the pooled percentage of asymptomatic infections was 32.40% among SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant-positive individuals. The people who were vaccinated, young (median age < 20 years), had a travel history, and were infected outside of a clinical setting (community infection) had higher percentages of asymptomatic infections. Screening is required to prevent clustered epidemics or sustained community transmission caused by asymptomatic infections of Omicron variants, especially for countries and regions that have successfully controlled SARS-CoV-2.

Why do you insist on handwaving at only the worst case scenarios?

[Winehole23]

Sure and there is a large percentage of asymptomatic infections too.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9321237/



Why do you insist on handwaving at only the worst case scenarios?We'll see if it's handwriting or not. It appears the the risks are cumulative. The more times you get infected, the greater the chance of organ damage, chronic disease and death via the same. COVID is an ongoing mass disabling event.

[Winehole23]

Hospitals getting tapped out by the latest surge in Okinawa.


Okinawa is facing a major epidemic for the first time in Japan since the transition to the 5th category of the new coronavirus. Now that Okinawa Prefecture has no longer coordinated hospitalizations, local clinics, which are on the front lines of dealing with rapidly increasing fevers, are being hit hard. "Even after visiting seven or eight hospitals, we still can't find a place for our patients. Adjustments are continuing to the point where life is being lost. Rather than a medical crunch, it's collapsing." (Chie Shinohara, Digital Editorial Department)

Akebono Clinic (Director Osamu Tamai) in Naha City decided to limit the number of fever patients to 10 per day, and called for reservations in advance. Immediately after the hospital opened, there was a flood of calls, and the slots were quickly filled. Since then, the phone has continued to ring, seemingly asking for medical attention, but "I don't have time to deal with it," a clerk said. https://www.okinawatimes.co.jp/articles/-/1182047

[FuzzyLumpkins]

We'll see if it's handwriting or not. It appears the the risks are cumulative. The more times you get infected, the greater the chance of organ damage, chronic disease and death via the same. COVID is an ongoing mass disabling event.

You do know that there are people with long Covid that get over it right? Unlike say Lyme's disease where no one gets over it.

Never been a fan of fearmongering the unknown.

[Winehole23]

You do know that there are people with long Covid that get over it right? Unlike say Lyme's disease where no one gets over it.

Never been a fan of fearmongering the unknown.Some do, some haven't. Pointing out adversity isn't fearmongering, it's just information.

[Winehole23]

I've probably posted more on vaccines, treatments and engineering solutions than anyone here.

Do you consider that fearmongering too?

[Winehole23]

much as y'all want to sweep COVID under the rug, you can't

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Some do, some haven't. Pointing out adversity isn't fearmongering, it's just information.

Biasing it so that only the bits that you find scary are posted is fearmongering. We can discuss the meaning of the word monger and how that dynamic applies if you like.

Fearmongering and information are not mutually exclusive.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

much as y'all want to sweep COVID under the rug, you can't

I'm not sweeping COVID under the rug. we have billions of dollars in R&D still and have and are continuing to develop useful tools and behaviors to mitigate it.

[Winehole23]

Biasing it so that only the bits that you find scary are posted is fearmongering. We can discuss the meaning of the word monger and how that dynamic applies if you like. Knock yourself out.

:tu

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I've probably posted more on vaccines, treatments and engineering solutions than anyone here.

Do you consider that fearmongering too?

I don't dispute that and even a few months I wouldn't say what I am saying. Lately though you are acting like something has you shook and you want people along for the ride.

[Winehole23]

I'm not sweeping COVID under the rug. we have billions of dollars in R&D still and have and are continuing to develop useful tools and behaviors to mitigate it.Good thing, SARS2 is a perfectly serious disease.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Knock yourself out.

:tu


-monger
combining form
denoting a dealer or trader in a specified commodity.
"fishmonger"
a person who promotes a specified activity, situation, or feeling, especially one that is undesirable or discreditable.

[Winehole23]

-monger
combining form
denoting a dealer or trader in a specified commodity.
"fishmonger"
a person who promotes a specified activity, situation, or feeling, especially one that is undesirable or discreditable.impressive, really makes you think

[FuzzyLumpkins]

impressive, really makes you think

Not good thoughts and I kinda respect your approach to things for the most part.

[Winehole23]

Not good thoughts and I kinda respect your approach to things for the most part.I'm not troubled by your opinions about me, topicality really isn't your deal here. You mostly pick fights over personal stuff, which is fine, but boring.

[Winehole23]

No correlation has yet been shown to COVID, it's anybody's guess why this is happening.

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[ChumpDumper]

No correlation has yet been shown to COVID, it's anybody's guess why this is happening.

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:lol nutjobs trying to blame the vaccines

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I'm not troubled by your opinions about me, topicality really isn't your deal here. You mostly pick fights over personal stuff, which is fine, but boring.

I stick to topicality until people become pigheaded and refuse to be compelled by new evidence. Playing along with trolls to be 'topical' is not a desirable behavior IMO. I don't start shit with you for example.

Fine, you admit your bias and do not refute the mongering behavior. I'll continue to point it out for what it iis.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

No correlation has yet been shown to COVID, it's anybody's guess why this is happening.

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Given that the process of determining disability benefits includes diagnosis and prognosis there is no reason to believe that there is a link.

In fact, given that US population has seen a fairly linear increase over time, it is asinine to imply a link just because of an increase.

[Winehole23]

I stick to topicality until people become pigheaded and refuse to be compelled by new evidence. Playing along with trolls to be 'topical' is not a desirable behavior IMO. I don't start shit with you for example.

Fine, you admit your bias and do not refute the mongering behavior. I'll continue to point it out for what it iis.there's no way to refute a personal opinion

[FuzzyLumpkins]

there's no way to refute a personal opinion

sure but only posting worst case scenarios is not an opinion. and then of course you can refute the basis for it.

You are entitled to feel however you like. Whether you have a reasonable basis for said feeling is another matter.

[Winehole23]

Given that the process of determining disability benefits includes diagnosis and prognosis there is no reason to believe that there is a link.

In fact, given that US population has seen a fairly linear increase over time, it is asinine to imply a link just because of an increase.there seems to be a drastic change in the rate of increase in the last three years, it doesn't seem asinine at all to wonder whether it might be related to people getting COVID over and over again -- COVID is known to have chronic and disabling effects for a significant portion of people who get it.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

there seems to be a drastic change in the rate of increase in the last three years, it doesn't seem asinine at all to wonder whether it might be related to people getting COVID over and over again -- COVID is known to have chronic and disabling effects for a significant portion of people who get it.

of course you are wondering worst case scenario. surprise.

there is nothing to correlate with much less show cause.

And again 34% of people have no symptoms at all and most people who get long COVID stop having symptoms after 3 months.

[Winehole23]

“There is nothing at the moment that tells us how safe a room is,” Cirrito said. “If you are in a room with 100 people, you don’t want to find out five days later whether you could be sick or not. The idea with this device is that you can know essentially in real time, or every 5 minutes, if there is a live virus.”

Cirrito and Yuede had previously developed a micro-immunoelectrode (MIE) biosensor that detects amyloid beta as a biomarker for Alzheimer’s disease and wondered if it could be converted into a detector for SARS-CoV-2. They reached out to Chakrabarty, who assembled a team that included Puthussery, who had expertise in building real-time instruments to measure the toxicity of air.

To convert the biosensor from detecting amyloid beta to coronavirus, the researchers exchanged the antibody that recognizes amyloid beta for a nanobody from llamas that recognizes the spike protein from the SARS-CoV-2 virus. David Brody, MD, PhD, a former faculty member in the Department of Neurology at the School of Medicine and an author on the paper, developed the nanobody in his lab at the National Institutes of Health (NIH). The nanobody is small, easy to reproduce and modify and inexpensive to make, the researchers said.

“The nanobody-based electrochemical approach is faster at detecting the virus because it doesn’t need a reagent or a lot of processing steps,” Yuede said. “SARS-CoV-2 binds to the nanobodies on the surface, and we can induce oxidation of tyrosines on the surface of the virus using a technique called square wave voltammetry to get a measurement of the amount of virus in the sample.”
https://scitechdaily.com/new-air-monitor-can-detect-covid-19-flu-rsv-and-other-viruses-in-real-time/

[Winehole23]

Chakrabarty and Puthussery integrated the biosensor into an air sampler that operates based on the wet cyclone technology. Air enters the sampler at very high velocities and gets mixed centrifugally with the fluid that lines the walls of the sampler to create a surface vortex, thereby trapping the virus aerosols. The wet cyclone sampler has an automated pump that collects the fluid and sends it to the biosensor for seamless detection of the virus using electrochemistry.

“The challenge with airborne aerosol detectors is that the level of virus in the indoor air is so diluted that it even pushes toward the limit of detection of polymerase chain reaction (PCR) and is like finding a needle in a haystack,” Chakrabarty said. “The high virus recovery by the wet cyclone can be attributed to its extremely high flow rate, which allows it to sample a larger volume of air over a 5-minute sample collection compared with commercially available samplers.”

Most commercial bioaerosol samplers operate at relatively low flow rates, Puthussery said, while the team’s monitor has a flow rate of about 1,000 liters per minute, making it one of the highest flow-rate devices available. It is also compact at about 1 foot wide and 10 inches tall and lights up when a virus is detected, alerting administrators to increase airflow or circulation in the room.

The team tested the monitor in the apartments of two COVID-positive patients. The real-time PCR results of air samples from the bedrooms were compared with air samples collected from a virus-free control room. The devices detected RNA of the virus in the air samples from the bedrooms but did not detect any in the control air samples.



In laboratory experiments that aerosolized SARS-CoV-2 into a room-sized chamber, the wet cyclone and biosensor were able to detect varying levels of airborne virus concentrations after only a few minutes of sampling.
“We are starting with SARS-CoV-2, but there are plans to also measure influenza, RSV, rhinovirus and other top pathogens that routinely infect people,” Cirrito said. “In a hospital setting, the monitor could be used to measure for staph or strep, which cause all kinds of complications for patients. This could really have a major impact on people’s health.”

[SnakeBoy]

Wow airborne viruses can be found in the air...good job science.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Wow airborne viruses can be found in the air...good job science.

isolating specific DNA markers from the air is not a simple process.

for you it's poor job, education.

[Winehole23]

Wow airborne viruses can be found in the air...good job science.you're so trite

[ElNono]

Science good now :lol

[pgardn]

Wow airborne viruses can be found in the air...good job science.

Yeah thats exactly what it says...
Idiot.

[TSA]

On the morning of Sunday February 2, 2020, Anthony Fauci, then in the middle of putting together America’s pandemic response, received an unusual email with a highly unusual request. The email, revealed as part of a tranche of FOIA documents requested by the Intercept, was from George Daley, the dean of Harvard Medical School. “Alan Garber, Harvard’s provost, and I met yesterday with a team led by Jack Xia, the CEO of China’s Evergrande Company, and Dr. Jack Liu, Evergrande’s chief health officer,” Daley wrote. Addressing the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases as “Tony,” he asked for “whatever information you are willing to share on your current efforts to coordinate a response.”

It was an odd question on its own: What business did Evergrande — then the most valuable real estate company on earth, but also widely known to be catastrophically indebted — have with the director of America’s pandemic response? But Daley’s next line was stranger still. “[Xia and Liu] stated thy [sic] were acting on behalf of Dr Zhong Nanshan, China’s key point person on the coronavirus outbreak (see below).” Below was an email from Evergrande’s Liu to Daley which, save for an opening line, is entirely redacted.

Unfamiliar to most Americans, the octogenarian pulmonologist Zhong Nanshan is a national hero in China, where he successfully managed the 2002 SARS outbreak and helped prevent a possible pandemic. Zhong, China’s top epidemiologist and founder of the prestigious Guangzhou Institute of Respiratory Disease, is a legend in the tight-knit global public health and virology research communities. That Fauci would have required a Harvard official or a real estate company to coordinate efforts or facilitate contact with Zhong is unthinkable. Nevertheless, Daley informed Fauci that Evergrande’s Xia and Liu, “acting on behalf” of Zhong, had arranged a conference call for the next day, the morning of February 3. Fauci wrote back that afternoon and copied Francis Collins (something he rarely did on hundreds of publicly available emails) assuring Harvard he would follow up with a phone call.

Daley’s email could not have come at a more sensitive time. The day before, Saturday February 1, Fauci had taken part in a conference call now widely acknowledged as one of the most charged events in the search to uncover the origins of SARS-CoV-2. The preceding Friday, Fauci forwarded a Science article exploring theories about the possible origins of the virus to a disease genomics researcher at Scripps in California named Kristian Andersen. The article mentioned a 2015 study authored by University of North Carolina epidemiologist Ralph Baric and Wuhan Institute of Virology researcher Dr. Shi Zhengli — China’s infamous virus-hunting “bat woman” — which modified a bat-borne SARS-like virus to make it transmissible between humans. “If the SARS2 virus were to have been cooked up in Shi’s lab, then its direct prototype would have been the SHC014-CoV/SARS1 chimera [created by Baric and Shi], the potential danger of which concerned many observers and prompted intense discussion,” the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists later reported.

The discovery of this 2015 study appears to have been a giant red flag for Fauci, who was likely alarmed by the possibility that it might have been funded by the NIH (under which NIAID sits as one of twenty-seven constituent institutes) as it indeed was — despite the original publication failing to disclose this fact. Fauci forwarded the study to his deputy at NIAID, Hugh Auchincloss, with an ominous message: “Hugh: It is essential that we speak this AM… Read this paper as well as the e-mail that I will forward to you. You have tasks today that must be done.”

The news only got worse from there. A little more than an hour after receiving the email from Fauci, Kristian Andersen responded with an alarming observation about the new virus galloping around the world: “The unusual features of the virus make up a really small part of the genome [and show] that some of the features (potentially) look engineered,” Andersen wrote (emphasis added). He pointed out that University of Sydney researcher Edward Holmes, another world-class virologist, as well as a small group of top researchers, “all find the genome inconsistent with expectations from evolutionary theory.” Jeremy Farrar, head of the Wellcome Trust, the United Kingdom’s primary private health research funder, would later write that Holmes had 80 percent certainty the virus came from a lab, while Andersen put his certainty level at 60 to 70 percent.

Fauci flew into action, arranging the February 1 conference call which would eventually include NIH boss Francis Collins, Farrar and a handful of leading researchers, including Andersen and Holmes. None of the participants have divulged exactly what was said, and emails referring to its contents have been redacted in their entirety. But according to Republicans on the House Committee on Oversight and Reform and the House Judiciary Committee who viewed the original emails, many of the leading scientists on the call believed that a lab leak was at least as likely as the zoonotic spillover that had been widely suggested as the origin of the virus, if not more so.

Despite this, just three days after the conference call, a dramatic reversal took place regarding the scientists’ assessment of the possible origin of the virus. In a February 4 email that Andersen wrote to the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine, and which was forwarded to the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, Andersen claimed the data “conclusively show” that the virus was not engineered and that speculation about a possible lab leak was nothing more than “conspiracy” and “fringe” theories spread by “crackpots.”

On the same day Andersen sent his White House-bound email referring to the “conspiracy,” “fringe,” “crackpot” theory that he himself had laid out seventy-two hours earlier, and just two days after Harvard Medical School’s dean contacted Fauci on behalf of Evergrande, another key development took place, this one (until now) almost entirely overlooked regarding the role it may have played in the effort to shape the narrative about the pandemic’s origin: the Chinese real estate firm on whose behalf George Daley had contacted Fauci pledged a $115 million donation to Harvard Medical School.

The donation, used to fund a Harvard-Evergrande-Guangzhou partnership to study Covid-19 that would come to be known as the Massachusetts Consortium on Pathogen Readiness (MassCPR), was publicly announced in a March 5 Boston Globe op-ed co-authored by Daley; Arlene Sharpe, co-director of Harvard’s Evergrande Center for Immunologic Diseases since 2013; Penny Heaton, then-CEO of the Bill & Melinda Gates Medical Research Institute; Ronald Corley, director of Boston University’s National Emerging Infectious Diseases Laboratories; and Bruce Walker, director of the Harvard-affiliated Ragon Institute of Massachusetts General Hospital. Science magazine published a feature story on Evergrande’s donation pledge, also on March 5, which quoted Jeremy Farrar, who had no official affiliation with Harvard, Evergrande, China, the city of Boston, or the US government. The article also included a bizarre quote from Sten Vermund, dean of the Yale School of Public Health, who told Science that “coronavirus is not good for real estate.”

On the day Evergrande approved the donation (according to its 2020 annual report), another unusual but highly significant event occurred: Fauci took what, according to a Chinese foreign ministry official timeline of early pandemic events details, was his first call during the pandemic with the head of the Chinese CDC, George Gao, “to exchange information on the epidemic.” The same foreign ministry timeline also details that on the same day, February 4, Harvard and the Guangzhou Institute of Respiratory Health had the first discussion on “scientific research cooperation” concerning the virus.

Gao, an “old friend” of Farrar’s, according to the latter, is a principal figure in the Global Virome Project, an initiative created and co-led by Dr. Peter Daszak of the EcoHealth Alliance, whose aim is to identify, collect and catalog 99 percent of the world’s estimated million-plus viruses that could potentially harm humans. The GVP is the billion-dollar embodiment of an approach to virology which holds that the active investigation of all potentially harmful viruses will enable scientists to head off or contain outbreaks, including through anticipatory vaccine research. This approach is highly controversial among scientists, many of whom believe that the danger it holds (namely, of bringing humans in close contact with viruses carrying pandemic potential) far exceeds any real benefit. Nevertheless, it was this guiding philosophy that sent scientists like Shi Zhengli (whose Wuhan lab in 2013 sequenced the closest known relative to SARS-CoV-2, RaTG13) into caves across China searching for new viruses. With Gao, the Chinese CDC was given a prominent role in the initiative.

No more than two days after the Fauci-Gao call and the announcement of Evergrande’s donation, Daszak began asking prominent scientists to sign a letter condemning the lab-leak hypothesis as a conspiracy theory and affirming a scientific consensus on the pandemic’s origins. Published in the Lancet, the letter would be frequently cited by media outlets that sought to discredit the lab-leak theory for over a year. But many of the Lancet letter’s twenty-seven signatories had apparent conflicts of interest, because, as those involved in the Harvard donation have all but acknowledged, the lines between China’s largest real estate firm and its government are hardly clear cut. For example, NEIDL, one of just two US National Biocontainment Laboratories, was run by Ronald Corley, co-author of the op-ed that announced the Harvard-Evergrande donation. NEIDL was in line to receive millions of dollars in Evergrande giving. Other signatories included Farrar, who had gone on record to praise the Evergrande-Harvard deal, Dennis Carroll, chair of the Global Virome Project, and, of course Daszak himself.

The passage of China’s notorious 2017 National Intelligence Law led Australia’s foreign investment regulator to declare that there is effectively “no such thing” as a private company in China. And within China, this dynamic is even more pronounced. In 2018, political commentator Zhang Lin observed, in response to the phenomenon of wary Chinese executives making increasingly dramatic statements of state allegiance, that “they act as if they are being chased by a bear. They are powerless to control the bear, so they are competing to outrun each other to escape.”

One prominent such statement was made by Evergrande’s Xu Jiayin, who, in a 2018 speech two months after his visit to Harvard, declared that “everything that Evergrande and I have, it is all given by the Party, given by the State, given by society.” Unlike some of his disappeared colleagues, Xu never shied away from openly acknowledging this debt. Instead, he has embraced it, serving for nearly twenty years not just as the chairman of Evergrande’s corporate board but of the company’s Party cadre, the CCP’s liaison and oversight structure used to ensure Party loyalty and obedience to the state.

There is little doubt that George Daley and Anthony Fauci, both of whom have extensive experience cooperating with Chinese scientific institutions, would have understood the distinction between working with a Chinese lab or vaccine program and taking enormous sums from a private real estate behemoth with ties to the CCP. Yet not only did Daley apparently seek to involve Fauci in this deal but Fauci — as Daley himself would later go on record to say — went so far as to “endorse” it. The question all this provokes is, again, why?

In subsequent interviews, HMS chief George Daley presented Evergrande’s decision to insert itself into America’s official science establishment at a critical moment in the debate on the origin of the pandemic as one nation’s reaching out to help another. On the Raise the Line podcast in December 2020 he said that Evergrande founder Xu had contacted Harvard president Larry Bacow in late January because “there were no formal governmental interactions between the NIH or the CDC and China at that time, and so this leader of business in China reached out to Harvard asking for help.” Or, as Daley implied earlier, in an interview with the Harvard Crimson, this was a matter of Chinese government altruism flying in the face of potentially bitter tensions: “Initially, the Chinese were reaching out to us for help. And now, some two months later, the tables have turned, and we’re actually now seeking help from them.”

Daley’s claims that there had been no contact between the NIH or CDC and the Chinese government were not true. On January 3, 2020 — a month before his conversation with Anthony Fauci — George Gao, head of the Chinese CDC, spoke with his counterpart in America, then-head of the CDC Robert Redfield, who offered to immediately send an emergency response team to China. The Chinese government rejected the offer. By the time Evergrande chairman Xu contacted Harvard’s president, the Chinese government had refused repeated offers of assistance from the US CDC and the World Health Organization for close to a month, according to the New York Times.

If China rejected cooperation with the United States so adamantly, why would it suddenly reverse itself a month later — and why would it act through the world’s most prestigious university and not an institution that could facilitate national cooperation, like the WHO, the CDC, or Fauci’s own NIAID? To a significant extent, the answer lies in the special relationship Harvard and the CCP have been developing over decades of collaboration.

“Harvard has a special, extremely special status in China,” says Arthur M. Kleinman, one-time member of the board of directors of Harvard’s Fairbank Center for Chinese Studies. “When you go to China, you would think there’s only one great university in the world.” Indeed, even the ultranationalist Xi Jinping chose to have his daughter (and only child) who had been at Zhejiang University in Hangzhou for only a year, study instead under a pseudonym at Harvard, where she graduated in 2014.

Harvard’s ties to the CCP date to 1978, when William C. Hsiao, a professor of public health at Harvard, landed a meeting with China’s then-minister of health. Out of that first relationship was born the Harvard China Health Partnership, which exists to this day. In 1997, things got cozier still. During Jiang Zemin’s visit to the United States — the first by a Chinese head of state in over a decade — Jiang gave a speech at Harvard, and concluded the visit with an invitation to Harvard’s president, Neil Rudenstine, to visit China. Rudenstine accepted the offer the following year; students in China lined up for an hour to hear him speak

It was around the time of a 2013 visit to China by Harvard president Drew Gilpin Faust that Evergrande entered the fray. The real estate giant founded in 1996 by Xu Jiayin, the “poster child of China’s new ‘crazy rich’” who cultivated a persona as one of the country’s first financial playboys, flying in private jets, shopping for megayachts, and flashing his once-trademark gold Hermès belt buckle as a sign of success. By the time of Faust’s visit, Evergrande was emerging as the unique face of China’s property sector, which now accounts for a full 25-30 percent of the country’s total GDP. And it had global ambitions.

So it’s no surprise that Faust’s 2013 visit culminated in a gift of “university-wide, interdisciplinary support” made by Evergrande, an arrangement that Chinese state-run media would characterize as a “bilateral collaboration.” The gift, which would fund three new centers at Harvard, including the Evergrande Center for Immunologic Diseases, is estimated to have been on the order of $200 million.

But the money, it seems, came with strings attached. In 2015, while the new Evergrande centers were being developed, Chinese political dissident Teng Biao, then a visiting scholar at Harvard, was scheduled to give a talk. But Teng was told by a Harvard official that the event would “threaten the continuation of collaborative programs and joint research with China.” The talk would have to be postponed. “Postpone is a polite word,” Teng later told the Crimson. “They never invited us to give a talk after that.”

The Evergrande centers were only the beginning of Harvard’s relationship with the company. In July 2018, Larry Bacow — then just ten days into his tenure as president — welcomed Xi to Cambridge, hosting a banquet in his honor and giving him a personal tour of campus and research facilities. As recently as 2019, Bacow visited Xi Jinping and gave a speech at Peking University, an institution run by a senior intelligence official from the Ministry of State Security, in which he praised ties between the two institutions for “defending academic values that transcend the boundaries of any one country.”

The $115 million donation to Harvard Medical School came at a critical moment. For nine of the previous ten years, HMS had run a staggering deficit. Despite Harvard’s gargantuan endowment, the university famously uses a financial practice known as “every tub on its own bottom” (or ETOB), meaning each school is responsible for its own bottom line. In 2016, HMS reported a $49 million loss; in 2017 it lost $44 million. For 2020, the year of the donation, HMS projected a loss of $65 million. In this context, the Evergrande money indeed represented, in the words of the op-ed announcing it, a “historic opportunity.”

For Evergrande, the timing was also significant — albeit for different reasons. Between 2016 and 2020, Evergrande’s debt doubled. In 2018, China’s central bank identified Evergrande as “one of few financial holding conglomerates on its watch that it said could cause systemic risk.” By March 2020 — the same month it pledged $115 million to Harvard — Evergrande set a target to reduce its debt by $23.3 billion each year for three years. Less than six months later, Evergrande was reportedly “pleading” for cash, its meltdown coming to be seen as potentially the single biggest threat to the entire Chinese financial system, drawing the ire of the government, which was clamping down on private debt.

It was in this context that the beleaguered company promised nine figures to a US university with an eleven-figure endowment. Why?

According to a senior figure from the US science establishment, three campaigns in early 2020 laid the groundwork for the false narrative that the possibility of a lab-accident origin is a mere “conspiracy theory” promulgated by “fringe” elements. According to the scientist, the first of these campaigns was the Lancet letter organized by Daszak, the second was the “proximal origin” commentary in Nature Medicine, organized by Fauci and Farrar, and the third, run through the National Academy of Sciences, was organized primarily by Daszak, Fauci and Ralph Baric. The Evergrande payment to Harvard Medical School may have been another, the scientist says. “Harvard Medical School has lots of faculty. Lots of experts regularly consulted by the media. With millions from Evergrande on the table, those experts could be relied on to support, or at least not oppose, the false narrative concerning the origin of the pandemic.”

Harvard Medical School had not responded to a request for comment at the time of publication.

On January 16, 2022, almost two years after Evergrande’s landmark donation announcement, the Boston Globe reported that the embattled real estate firm had “reneged” on its pledge to Harvard Medical School. All in all, HMS would see just $12 million of the promised $115 million donation. For Evergrande, which attached its brand to numerous scientific studies and enjoyed a channel to America’s top science officials at a bargain price, this was the deal of the century. But the rest of us are left wondering why Fauci, America’s most powerful science official and the man entrusted with running its pandemic response, would not only take time from a schedule in which every minute counted not only to entertain but to endorse a deal with a colossally indebted Chinese real estate firm.

“Fortunately we have more than survived what could have been financial ruin,” said Bruce Walker of MassCPR, one of the authors of the 2020 op-ed announcing the donation. “I sincerely cannot think of a more important effort that I’ve had the privilege to convene,” said George Daley on the demise of MassCPR, “and I’ve been awed and inspired by how it’s grown and flourished.”

https://thespectator.com/topic/fauci-harvard-and-the-ccp/

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/COVIDSelect/status/1678758624179507201

[pgardn]

Pile o shit.

If there is one thing both parties want from China is access.
And when we get access we will have a better chance of finding the pathway from another species or we might not. Has no bearing on it being engineered.
It was not engineered because people already had gotten virus and the symptoms before ANY lab was working on it. No one had even isolated the virus yet to identify it.
And there is no way this is going to irreprably harm China and we dont want that.
China destroyed themselves with a lock down because they had an absolute shit vaccine that did not work well.
Their government did an absolutely shitty job with the virus and they are still feeling the economic affects, we could not possibly cause this much harm.

[ElNono]

On the morning of Sunday February 2, 2020, Anthony Fauci, then in the middle of putting together America’s pandemic response, received an unusual email with a highly unusual request. The email, revealed as part of a tranche of FOIA documents requested by the Intercept, was from George Daley, the dean of Harvard Medical School. “Alan Garber, Harvard’s provost, and I met yesterday with a team led by Jack Xia, the CEO of China’s Evergrande Company, and Dr. Jack Liu, Evergrande’s chief health officer,” Daley wrote. Addressing the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases as “Tony,” he asked for “whatever information you are willing to share on your current efforts to coordinate a response.”

....

“Fortunately we have more than survived what could have been financial ruin,” said Bruce Walker of MassCPR, one of the authors of the 2020 op-ed announcing the donation. “I sincerely cannot think of a more important effort that I’ve had the privilege to convene,” said George Daley on the demise of MassCPR, “and I’ve been awed and inspired by how it’s grown and flourished.”

https://thespectator.com/topic/fauci-harvard-and-the-ccp/

:lol you forgot the title: Was a Fauci-endorsed Chinese donation part of the lab-leak cover up?

[TSA]

It was not engineered because people already had gotten virus and the symptoms before ANY lab was working on it. No one had even isolated the virus yet to identify it.


You should call the FBI and US DOE and tell them their intelligence assessment was all wrong and that you've solved the origins of Covid and it could not have been a lab leak. You've done a huge disservice to our country by keeping this information to yourself while letting these intelligence agencies waste time and tax payer dollars.

[TSA]

:lol you forgot the title: Was a Fauci-endorsed Chinese donation part of the lab-leak cover up?

That wasn't the title.

[ChumpDumper]

That wasn't the title.Subtitle.


The Harvard connection

Was a Fauci-endorsed Chinese donation part of the lab-leak cover up?

You forgot it.

[TSA]

Subtitle.


The Harvard connection

Was a Fauci-endorsed Chinese donation part of the lab-leak cover up?

You forgot it.

So what? Holy shit get a fucking life dude.

[ChumpDumper]

So what? Holy shit get a fucking life dude.:lol it's just pulling teeth to get you to admit even the simplest truth.

It's hilarious.

[TSA]

:lol it's just pulling teeth to get you to admit even the simplest truth.

It's hilarious.

There was nothing to admit. I didn't forget it I just didn't put either in my post.

Another failed gotcha attempt by you. It was nice having you on ignore...I had forgotten how annoying, needy, and pathetic you are.

[ChumpDumper]

There was nothing to admit. I didn't forget it I just didn't put either in my post.

Another failed gotcha attempt by you. It was nice having you on ignore...I had forgotten how annoying, needy, and pathetic you are.

:lol I was just building on the triggering Elnono started in you.

Unclench.

[TSA]

:lol I was just building on the triggering Elnono started in you.

Unclench.

The only thing you triggered was my memory of how annoying and pathetic your posting habits are.

[ChumpDumper]

The only thing you triggered was my memory of how annoying and pathetic your posting habits are.

Or clench harder. Whatever.

I'll save any more questions that hurt your feelings for the Trump threads. Get your dodging shoes on.

[ElNono]

That wasn't the title.

It was the subtitle. Any reason you skipped it?

[pgardn]

You should call the FBI and US DOE and tell them their intelligence assessment was all wrong and that you've solved the origins of Covid and it could not have been a lab leak. You've done a huge disservice to our country by keeping this information to yourself while letting these intelligence agencies waste time and tax payer dollars.

You have no clue what you are talking about.
We do need to see how they cultured and what they did while culturing the virus. We need to know details about how it spread for public health reasons.
But the DISEASE itself was already out. The bat lady was working with bat viruses and other viruses from all sorts of animals. But she was cataloguing the viral sequences of many viruses because she was interested in the evolution of these viruses in animals. We know this.

You are putting up complete shit concerning virus AFTER it had already split into to different variants later on, the disease was already going around in people. You have no clue about the timing of these events just like the good Trumper conspiratard you are. And YES, we do need China to cooperate. But claiming they bioengineered the pandemic is just stupid.

Have you found any more concerning the alien biomolecules?

[TSA]

It was the subtitle. Any reason you skipped it?

Felt both were corny and a distraction from the article...which you've conveniently not even touched.

[TSA]

You have no clue what you are talking about.
We do need to see how they cultured and what they did while culturing the virus. We need to know details about how it spread for public health reasons.
But the DISEASE itself was already out. The bat lady was working with bat viruses and other viruses from all sorts of animals. But she was cataloguing the viral sequences of many viruses because she was interested in the evolution of these viruses in animals. We know this.

You are putting up complete shit concerning virus AFTER it had already split into to different variants later on, the disease was already going around in people. You have no clue about the timing of these events just like the good Trumper conspiratard you are. And YES, we do need China to cooperate. But claiming they bioengineered the pandemic is just stupid.

Have you found any more concerning the alien biomolecules?

Again, you should call the FBI and US DOE and tell them you've figured it all out and that they have no clue what they are talking about.

Meanwhile...more damning information coming out from Fauci's pals and authors/pushers of the Proximal Origin paper.


https://twitter.com/HansMahncke/status/1678962422114033664

https://twitter.com/HansMahncke/status/1678970858755313666

https://twitter.com/HansMahncke/status/1678974305734893568

https://twitter.com/HansMahncke/status/1678975953450442753

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/1679239064346607622

[Th'Pusher]

Felt both were corny and a distraction from the article...which you've conveniently not even touched.

:lol it was likely the reason your suggestible ass clicked on the AR-15.com clickbait.

[TSA]

:lol it was likely the reason your suggestible ass clicked on the AR-15.com clickbait.

I haven't been on that site in years. Thanks for stopping by and trying though.

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/1679239064346607622

AMAZING!

What does this change?

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/WashburneAlex/status/1679574155556007940

https://twitter.com/WashburneAlex/status/1679576162945859584

https://twitter.com/WashburneAlex/status/1679576921766780928

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/WashburneAlex/status/1679574155556007940

https://twitter.com/WashburneAlex/status/1679576162945859584

https://twitter.com/WashburneAlex/status/1679576921766780928

Boring.

China is never going to let us know one way or the other because your Trump declared open season on Asian Americans.

Now what?

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/COVIDSelect/status/1679606442414809090

"They were concerned about the fact that upon viewing the sequences of several isolates of the nCov, there were mutations in the virus that would be most unusual to have evolved naturally in the bats and that there was a suspicion that this mutation was intentionally inserted. The suspicion was heightened by the fact that scientists in Wuhan University are known to have been working on gain-of-function experiments to determine the molecular mechanisms associated with bat viruses adapting to human infection, and the outbreak originated in Wuhan." - Anthony Fauci - February 1, 2020

[ElNono]

Felt both were corny and a distraction from the article...which you've conveniently not even touched.

Well, the author thought it summed up the article pretty well, I suppose. He chose them after all.

In light of that, it's no surprise the article can't really be taken seriously.

[Winehole23]

SARS2 has a long tail

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[Winehole23]

Suicides/suicidality went down when schools were closed for COVID.

Child suicides appear to correlate closely with school being in session.


Question Did trends and seasonal patterns of suicidality among children and adolescents change after the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic in March 2020?

Findings This cross-sectional study of 73 123 emergency department (ED) visits and hospitalizations for suicidality found that the incidence of ED visits and hospitalizations increased from 2016 to 2021, with a temporary decline in 2020. Prior to the pandemic, monthly incidences were typically higher during the school year, but during the spring of 2020, coinciding with school closures, they were substantially lower.

Meaning This study’s findings suggest that the unexpected decrease in suicidality among children and adolescents after school closures supports hypotheses that suicidality is associated with the US school calendar.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2807435

[SnakeBoy]

SARS2 has a long tail

1679244390836084737

muh fatigue

[Winehole23]

muh fatigue

https://media.springernature.com/lw685/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1038%2Fs41598-021-95565-8/MediaObjects/41598_2021_95565_Fig2_HTML.png

[DarrinS]

https://youtu.be/PhAGPQE0H-U

[ChumpDumper]

https://youtu.be/PhAGPQE0H-U

Is somebody seriously expected to watch this, Darrin?

[leemajors]

Big Pharma is also apparently concealing the anti inflammatory properties of Borax.

[Winehole23]

Big Pharma is also apparently concealing the anti inflammatory properties of Borax.

https://media.tenor.com/Hamj2gR00DgAAAAd/happy-november-pout.gif

I swear that was a scene in a Cheech and Chong movie

[InRareForm]

I would say 10% people in grocery stores still wearing masks in so cal

[ElNono]

Is somebody seriously expected to watch this, Darrin?

:lol

[SnakeBoy]

Get ready for the sniffles

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[baseline bum]

https://media.tenor.com/Hamj2gR00DgAAAAd/happy-november-pout.gif

I swear that was a scene in a Cheech and Chong movie


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dbITm7keqc

[Thread]

I would say 10% people in grocery stores still wearing masks in so cal

Those ain't shoppers ya damn fool. Those are shoplifters.

[Thread]

Get ready for the sniffles

1685091029114855425

Trump: 400k killed.
"I'll shut it down" Biden: 800k killed, & counting.

[Winehole23]

Looks like another summer wave, even with desultory reporting. The Biden Administration has swept COVID under the rug, but it won't stay there.

1685858742745620480

[Winehole23]

New York reported 6,515 new coronavirus cases this week, up 28% from last week and up 75% from last month

[Donald Sterling.]

Love this for vaxxcucks, but at least granny can sleep tight.

Libcucks, when will they learn? :lol





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[Thread]

Trump: 400k killed.
"I'll shut it down" Biden: 800k killed, & counting.

ha, ha.

[ChumpDumper]

Love this for vaxxcucks, but at least granny can sleep tight.

Libcucks, when will they learn? :lol





1686060443733835776

:lol backhanded trolling

[boutons_deux]

Most Covid deaths in FL occured after vaccines were available.

heckuva job, vaccine-downplaying Ronnie

[Winehole23]

Love this for vaxxcucks, but at least granny can sleep tight.

Libcucks, when will they learn? :lol





1686060443733835776IIRC, the Cedars Sunai study controlled for vaccination, please feel free to read it.

[Winehole23]

surely just a coincidence that life expectancy dipped globally in 2020 and we never turned it around while others did

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2c-GhPb0AAHzT-?format=jpg&name=small

[SnakeBoy]

Most Covid deaths in FL occured after vaccines were available.

heckuva job, vaccine-downplaying Ronnie

Most covid deaths in the country occurred after Ol Joe took office

[ChumpDumper]

It's true you Trumptards started killing yourselves at an accelerated rate after ol' Joe beat the living this out of your Trump.

[Winehole23]

Republicans lies about vaccines killed a lot of Republicans.


After May 1, 2021, when vaccines were available to all adults, the excess death rate gap between Republican and Democratic voters widened from −0.9 percentage point (95% PI, −2.5 to 0.3 percentage points) to 7.7 percentage points (95% PI, 6.0-9.3 percentage points) in the adjusted analysis; the excess death rate among Republican voters was 43% higher than the excess death rate among Democratic voters. The gap in excess death rates between Republican and Democratic voters was larger in counties with lower vaccination rates and was primarily noted in voters residing in Ohio.

Here's the part that's going to give the miseries to the people aboard the RFK, Jr. bandwagon.

However, in the summer of 2021, after vaccines were available to all adults, the excess death rate among Republican voters began to increase relative to the excess death rate among Democratic voters; in the fall of 2021, the gap widened further. Between March 2020 and December 2021, excess death rates were 2.8 percentage points (15%) higher for Republican voters compared with Democratic voters (95% PI, 1.6-3.7 percentage points). After April 1, 2021, when all adults were eligible for vaccines in Florida and Ohio, this gap widened from −0.9 percentage point (95% PI, −2.5 to 0.3 percentage points) between March 2020 and March 2021, to 7.7 percentage points (95% PI, 6.0-9.3 percentage points) in the adjusted analysis, or a 43% difference.https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a44704968/jama-study-republican-covid-deaths/

[Nbadan]

The researchers found that while the risk of serious adverse events with both vaccines was "very low," the Moderna vaccine saw a 4% lower risk for pulmonary embolism or a sudden blockage of blood vessels. The Moderna vaccine was also tied to a 15% lower risk of being diagnosed with COVID-19 compared to the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine. "Immunization with either mRNA vaccine is substantially better and safer than not being vaccinated at all," study lead author Daniel Harris said.

Read more: https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2023/08/02/COVID-19-vaccine-Moderna-Pfizer/7571690986746/

[Nbadan]

Experts have found powerful antibodies that neutralize all Covid variants


In a remarkable breakthrough, researchers have identified a set of potent antibodies capable of neutralizing virtually all known variants of COVID-19. Additionally, these antibodies can tackle other potentially deadly animal coronaviruses that may cause future pandemics.

This discovery could steer the course of development for therapeutics that can effectively combat both current and future coronaviruses.

The study, led by the Duke-NUS Medical School, also involved an international team of experts from the National University of Singapore, the University of Melbourne in Australia, and the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in the United States.
For the investigation, the researchers isolated antibodies from the blood of a patient who had previously recovered from SARS and was later vaccinated against COVID-19.

This unique combination spawned a highly potent and expansive antibody response, which demonstrated the capability to neutralize almost all tested coronaviruses.

More at link.

[Winehole23]

Pretending COVID isn't there doesn't work.

It's amazing to me that not wanting to repeatedly get sick with a neurodegenerative, thrombotic vascular disease has become controversial.


Emergency room visits for children ages 0 to 11 years old have also climbed steeply. Measured as a percentage of all visits in the age group, nationwide COVID-19 rates in these kids are now tied with seniors for the first time in a year. Other CDC data (https://www.cdc.gov/ncird/surveillance/respiratory-illnesses/index.html) suggests visits from the youngest kids, ages 0 to 1 year old, are seeing the steepest increase.

In some parts of the country — like the region (https://www.hhs.gov/ash/about-ash/regional-offices/region-6/index.html) spanning Arkansas, Louisiana, New Mexico, Oklahoma and Texas — the share of COVID-19 ER visits involving children ages 0 to 11 have already far surpassed older adults.

It is unclear what has driven the steep increase in ER visits from kids. A CDC spokesperson did not immediately respond to a request for comment
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-hospitalizations-rise-fourth-week-eg-5-variant/

[Thread]

Pretending COVID isn't there doesn't work.

It's amazing to me that not wanting to repeatedly get sick with a neurodegenerative, thrombotic vascular disease has become controversial.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-hospitalizations-rise-fourth-week-eg-5-variant/

Well, they're all RED states, save New Mexico, so, you have that to crow about, fart face.

[InRareForm]

Ba.6 trending

[DarrinS]

Ba.6 trending

Spanish flu still exists

[Winehole23]

Spanish flu still existsFlu is a historically big killer and results in significant economic costs. So far the disease burden and the direct costs of COVID put the flu in the shade.


Flu Costs the U.S. More Than $87 Billion Annually

https://www.cdcfoundation.org/pr/flu-costs-United-States-87-billion-annually

[DarrinS]

Flu is a historically big killer and results in significant economic costs. So far the disease burden and the direct costs of COVID put the flu in the shade.

https://www.cdcfoundation.org/pr/flu-costs-United-States-87-billion-annually


Don't be an unhealthy slob.

[Winehole23]

Don't be an unhealthy slob.I'm not, I seldom get sick.

It's not about me, though. I'm much more worried about infecting others unwittingly and the ongoing social burden of a disease that results in neurodegeneration, thrombosis and organ damage for so many people -- the economic and social burden of COVID related sickness and disability is already massive and will continue to amplify, unless we get better at managing the caseload.

[Winehole23]

(Not sure what the unhealthy slob crack is all about, the main pathway of COVID infection is respiratory. People mostly get it by breathing in the virus, not by being slobs.)

[Winehole23]

Are people still unaware that COVID is airborne? Blows my mind that people don't take that into account three plus years In.

[Thread]

Are people still unaware that COVID is airborne? Blows my mind that people don't take that into account three plus years In.

Biden swore on the Good Book that he'd "shut it down." Instead the lying sack-a-shit killed over 3/4 of a million Americans, Winester, and what's more? We're still counting.

[InRareForm]

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/eris-ba286-do-i-need-worry-about-covid-again-2023-08-19/

[InRareForm]

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[Winehole23]

Mass infection correlates (http://https://twitter.com/greg_travis/status/1692971270604763424?s=20) with mass death. Minimizing COVID is an essentially necropolitical project. Max protection for rich elites, max exposure for the plebs.

1692971270604763424

[Thread]

Mass infection correlates (http://https://twitter.com/greg_travis/status/1692971270604763424?s=20) with mass death. Minimizing COVID is an essentially necropolitical project. Max protection for rich elites, max exposure for the plebs.

1692971270604763424

I'll boil it down for you, sassafras:::

Trump: 400k dead Americans.
Squattin' fuck Biden: 3/4 of a million Americans dead...AND counting after the squattin' fuck had sworn on the Good Book that: "I'll shut it down."

No you won't.

[Winehole23]

hospitalizations are a lagging indicator. up 22% in one week.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4FkruxXsAA9Kaz?format=png&name=medium

[Winehole23]

"don't worry, it's only dangerous for old and unhealthy people"


Emergency room visits for children ages 0 to 11 years old have also climbed steeply. Measured as a percentage of all visits in the age group, nationwide COVID-19 rates in these kids are now tied with seniors for the first time in a year. Other CDC data (https://www.cdc.gov/ncird/surveillance/respiratory-illnesses/index.html) suggests visits from the youngest kids, ages 0 to 1 year old, are seeing the steepest increase.

In some parts of the country — like the region (https://www.hhs.gov/ash/about-ash/regional-offices/region-6/index.html) spanning Arkansas, Louisiana, New Mexico, Oklahoma and Texas — the share of COVID-19 ER visits involving children ages 0 to 11 have already far surpassed older adults.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-hospitalizations-rise-fourth-week-eg-5-variant/

[Thread]

hospitalizations are a lagging indicator. up 22% in one week.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4FkruxXsAA9Kaz?format=png&name=medium

Yet Winester, that cocksucker squattin' in the White House swore on the Good Book he'd shut it down.

Uh, uh. Nope.

[Thread]

"don't worry, it's only dangerous for old and unhealthy people"

& "I'll shut it down."

[InRareForm]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-12433597/bax-ba286-second-case-covid-usa-virginia-japan.html

[hater]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-12433597/bax-ba286-second-case-covid-usa-virginia-japan.html

"The positive case was detected in an asymptomatic patient"

:lmao

[Winehole23]

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/covid-cd-er-natl.pnghttps://www.cdc.gov/ncird/surveillance/respiratory-illnesses/index.html

[Winehole23]

with moves like this the CDC basically abandons disease control


The planned HICPAC revisions would water down infection control protections, particularly for aerosol transmission and multidrug-resistant organisms.



Most immediately worrisome is its conclusion that plain surgical masks (aka “baggy blues”) are equivalent to N95s and provide adequate protection to healthcare workers and patients. There is abundant evidence to the contrary (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5705692/).
https://www.forbes.com/sites/judystone/2023/08/21/cdc-weighs-lower-infection-safety-precautions-for-healthcare-workers/

[Winehole23]

the CDC made HICPAC public comments a private video on their own website

1694180293266296854

[Winehole23]

New York hospitals bring back mask mandates. Protecting patients and health care workers in hospitals only makes sense during a surge of infection. It makes sense at other times too, tbh.

1695289679191392382

[Thread]

New York hospitals bring back mask mandates. Protecting patients and health care workers in hospitals only makes sense during a surge of infection. It makes sense at other times too, tbh.

1695289679191392382

Biden swore on the Good Book that "I'll shut it down."

Uh, uh. Nope.

[Winehole23]

Now comes Massachusetts


With COVID cases and hospitalizations climbing (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-hospitalizations-spike-22-percent-cdc-predicts-increase-new-variants-2023/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab4i), UMass Memorial is bringing back a mask mandate for staff when interacting with patients.

"We have continued to see a dramatic increase in the number of COVID-19 positive employees over the past two weeks, which has led to exposures of both fellow caregivers and patients," a memo sent to staff on Thursday stated. "In response to this, as a protective measure for our staff and patients, effective immediately we are requiring mandatory caregiver masking for all patient encounters in all licensed clinical areas."
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/boston/news/umass-memorial-mask-mandate-staff-covid/

[Winehole23]

and Hollywood


The Hollywood film studio Lionsgate has reinstated its mask mandate as cases of Covid-19 continue to rise.

In a company-wide email obtained by Deadline (https://deadline.com/2023/08/lionsgate-mask-mandate-santa-monica-covid-outbreak-1235524039/), it was announced that nearly half of the company’s employees would need to wear “medical grade” face masks again in the flagship offices in Los Angeles. The rule applies “except when alone in an office with the door closed, actively eating, actively drinking at their desk or workstation, or if they are the only individual present in a large open workspace”.

Employees are also now required to perform daily self-screenings and stay home if they have symptoms or have traveled internationally in the last 10 days. The company is also reintroducing contact tracing and providing at-home test kits when needed.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2023/aug/22/hollywood-lionsgate-mask-mandate-covid-eris-los-angeles

[Winehole23]

and the US Army

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4LmnEXWYAAhVaj?format=jpg&name=small

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[Winehole23]

must be getting pretty bad in Georgia


A private liberal arts college in Atlanta said Sunday that it is reinstating a mask mandate on its campus.

Morris Brown College (MBC) announced (https://www.instagram.com/p/CwLcj0qAeWZ/?img_index=1) on Instagram that it was issuing the mandate following an increase in positive cases of COVID-19 among students in the Atlanta University Center. The center oversees (https://aucenter.edu/about/) four Atlanta institutions and is "the world's oldest and largest association of historically Black colleges and universities," according to its website.

For 14 days, MBC students will be required to wear masks, maintain "physical distancing" and avoid large gatherings, according to MBC's announcement. Students and staff will also be required to undergo "temperature checks" upon arriving to campus.
https://katv.com/news/nation-world/mask-mandate-reinstated-at-atlanta-liberal-arts-college-due-to-positive-covid-cases-morris-brown-college-social-distancing-pandemic-georgia-university-mask-mandate-reinstated-at-atlanta-liberal-arts-college

[Winehole23]

Kentucky schools close


“In Lee County, the attendance is at that level where they felt they needed to make the call to dismiss classes the rest of the week,” he noted. About an hour east, schools in Magoffin County also shut down this week due to “widespread illness.”

“We were seeing an uptick of absentees. They were saying COVID, but they were also putting strep throat in there, and there was a virus going around, a stomach virus,” Magoffin County Health Department Director Pete Shepherd told WKYT. (https://www.wkyt.com/2023/08/24/multiple-ky-schools-close-due-illness-start-new-year/)
https://www.wdrb.com/in-depth/kentucky-school-districts-should-prepare-for-intermittent-covid-19-closures-in-2020-21/article_2d45020a-af3b-11ea-a0fe-9faf3984faf8.html

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4ZPheuWsAElNJs?format=jpg&name=small

[Thread]

Now comes Massachusetts

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/boston/news/umass-memorial-mask-mandate-staff-covid/


and Hollywood

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2023/aug/22/hollywood-lionsgate-mask-mandate-covid-eris-los-angeles


and the US Army

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4LmnEXWYAAhVaj?format=jpg&name=small

1425168800018804736


must be getting pretty bad in Georgia

[COLOR=#121212][FONT=&amp] https://katv.com/news/nation-world/mask-mandate-reinstated-at-atlanta-liberal-arts-college-due-to-positive-covid-cases-morris-brown-college-social-distancing-pandemic-georgia-university-mask-mandate-reinstated-at-atlanta-liberal-arts-college


Kentucky schools close

https://www.wdrb.com/in-depth/kentucky-school-districts-should-prepare-for-intermittent-covid-19-closures-in-2020-21/article_2d45020a-af3b-11ea-a0fe-9faf3984faf8.html


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4ZPheuWsAElNJs?format=jpg&name=small

Even though that fuck Biden swore on the Good Book years ago..."I'll shut it down."

Uh, uh. Nope.

[Thread]

and Hollywood

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2023/aug/22/hollywood-lionsgate-mask-mandate-covid-eris-los-angeles

Hollywood

You notice how Hollywood never had to suffer during the 3 years of COVID 1? I watch television religiously and I never see any kind of mask usage by actors in any capacity of scene in movies made in this 3 years frame. No peripherals either. Never any fucking mask.

They must a been special, didn't have to abide by the rules. Commerce allowed them to be skip it.

[Winehole23]

Possibly even in your zip code.

1696977583466836082

[Thread]

Possibly even in your zip code.

1696977583466836082

Am I back in the shitter, Winester? Damn it all, I thought we was on speaking terms again, old timer? What the hell happened? How did the wheels come off once again? I used the 4 way and really leaned into it to tighten super tight. Hold on, I'll run down the street and get the wheel.

[DarrinS]

Possibly even in your zip code.

1696977583466836082

Who cares, tbh?

[Thread]

Who cares, tbh?

tbh? Certainly not the 3/4 of a million Americans (and counting) that Biden has already killed after assuring them: "I'll shut it down."

Uh, uh. Nope.

[Winehole23]

Who cares, tbh?Runge cared enough to close schools temporarily.

Thousands of people getting sick is probably inconvenient, at a minimum, more so for the 5-10% of people who will suffer chronic symptoms. Presumably people also care about their kids and loved ones going to the ER, like anyone would for anything.

Disease is a drag, widespread disease even more so.

[Winehole23]

Just say you don't care, Darrin. That's more accurate.

[Winehole23]

the evidence that COVID-19 is among other things a neurodegenerative disease is firming up


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F43ofetboAAR7-e?format=jpg&name=large

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[Winehole23]

Evidence that COVID fucks up your immune system keeps piling up too.


“In this large, matched cohort study, COVID-19 was associated with an increased risk of being newly diagnosed with autoimmune disease 3 to 15 months after SARS-CoV-2 infection,” Tesch and colleagues wrote. “The strength of the association with SARS-CoV-2 infection (https://archive.ph/o/kcIG5/https://www.healio.com/news/rheumatology/20230801/increasing-covid-vaccine-booster-uptake-in-black-patients-requires-empathy-conversation) was most pronounced for autoimmune diseases in the vasculitis group.”


The cohort included patients who had received a confirmed COVID-19 diagnosis from a PCR test from Jan. 1, 2020, to June 30, 2021. The control group, meanwhile, was comprised of patients without a confirmed infection. Patients with COVID-19 were matched 1:3 to control participants based on age, biological sex and whether there was a history of autoimmune diseases. The researchers assessed a total of 64 potential health outcomes, including 41 autoimmune diseases. The follow-up period spanned 3 to 15 months after confirmed diagnosis.

The analysis included 641,704 patients with previous COVID-19 infections. According to the researchers, patients with COVID-19 (IR = 15.05; 95% CI, 14.69-15.42) demonstrated a 42.63% higher likelihood of developing autoimmunity following the acute infection phase, compared with the control population (IR = 10.55; 95% CI, 10.25-10.86).https://archive.ph/2023.09.01-005916/https://www.healio.com/news/rheumatology/20230830/patients-with-covid19-have-43-increased-risk-for-newonset-autoimmune-diseases#selection-1933.0-1935.336

[Thread]

Evidence that COVID fucks up your immune system keeps piling up too.



https://archive.ph/2023.09.01-005916/https://www.healio.com/news/rheumatology/20230830/patients-with-covid19-have-43-increased-risk-for-newonset-autoimmune-diseases#selection-1933.0-1935.336

I'll boil it down, Winester..."I'll shut it down." - Biden

Uh, uh. Nope.

[Winehole23]

Anecdotal from some cancer docs, persistent inflammation and immune derangement might be contributing factors.


Kashyap Patel, MD, CEO of Carolina Blood and Cancer Care Associates, sees something different in his practice since the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic—not just with cancer care, but with cancer itself.

Since March 2020, the longtime community oncologist has seen multiple patients in his Rock Hill, South Carolina, based-clinic with cholangiocarcinoma, and these patients are developing the rare cancer 20 to 30 years earlier than the typical age at presentation, which is usually 65 years or older.1 In the past year alone, physicians in Patel’s practice saw 7 patients with this cancer, and 3 have died.

It is not just a single cancer type, either. Patel and his colleagues, both in the United States and those he knows overseas, have seen patients with rapidly progressing cancers of several types, such as breast cancer and renal cell carcinoma. During an interview with Evidence-Based Oncology™(EBO), Patel said several did not even have time to receive treatment and died within weeks of diagnosis.

Among these was a patient aged 26 years with rapidly progressing triple-negative breast cancer. Another patient developed systemic inflammatory response syndrome, which can be caused by an infection, inflammation, or pancreatitis, and is often seen in patients with lung cancer.2 The patient was 51 when he died 4 weeks after receiving a diagnosis, making him 15 years younger than the typical patient with this condition.3

Patel said one his colleagues told him that he cannot keep up with the volume of new patients presenting with prostate cancer at his practice in India.

“The trend is getting more and more alarming,” Patel emphasized. “We are noticing trends in hematological malignancies, breast cancer, colorectal carcinoma, and pancreatic cancer.”https://www.ajmc.com/view/kashyap-patel-md-sees-link-between-covid-19-and-cancer-progression-calls-for-more-biomarker-testing

[Winehole23]

COVID-related renal and cardiac disease have already been clocked. Thromboembolism too. You don't have to be scared, but being unwary of COVID is probably foolish.

[Thread]

COVID-related renal and cardiac disease have already been clocked. Thromboembolism too. You don't have to be scared, but being unwary of COVID is probably foolish.


I'll boil it down, Winester..."I'll shut it down." - Biden

Uh, uh. Nope.

[Winehole23]

Long lasting mitochondrial damage.

1694524813786927134

[Winehole23]

for Long Covid paitients presenting with myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome, very few (about 12%) had recovered two years post infection, in this study:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(23)00323-1/fulltext


“Unfortunately, our data show that people with post-COVID syndrome who have severe fatigue are still ill more than a year and a half after the initial infection,” says Dr. Judith Bellmann-Strobl, the study’s last author and a senior physician with the Neuroimmunology Outpatient Clinic at the Experimental and Clinical Research Center (ECRC), a joint institution of Charité and the Max Delbrück Center. “Only half of them – the half that do not present with the full range of symptoms of ME/CFS – experience gradual improvement in at least some symptoms.”https://scitechdaily.com/long-haul-ahead-the-prolonged-impact-of-severe-long-covid/

[Winehole23]

Sanitizing water in the 19th and early 20th century was a vast undertaking, but we decided not having continual outbreaks of cholera in population centers was worth it -- and it is.

90% of people work inside, and very many go to school indoors. Improving the quality of indoor air would have untold economic and human health benefits. We're technically capable of doing it, all that's lacking is the political will.

https://twitter.com/jljcolorado/status/1699669347713605966?s=20

[Winehole23]

Living with respiratory diseases, just like living with water-borne disease, is a political choice, not a necessity.

[Winehole23]

Strong correlation with gastrointestinal disease.

https://twitter.com/KatePri14608408/status/1699684998071415286?s=20

https://twitter.com/KatePri14608408/status/1699685007428886897?s=20

[HemisfairArena]

funny, i dont see democrats putting a strangle hold on America and the economy like they did under Trump when covid rose its deadly head,,,nope, no business closures or mask mandates this time around,,,,no way,,,no chance this close to a presidential election for democrats,,,,,

[Winehole23]

COVID is airborne.

https://twitter.com/mdc_martinus/status/1699814759757934850?s=20

https://twitter.com/mdc_martinus/status/1699814775549571545?s=20

[Winehole23]

funny, i dont see democrats putting a strangle hold on America and the economy like they did under Trump when covid rose its deadly head,,,nope, no business closures or mask mandates this time around,,,,no way,,,no chance this close to a presidential election for democrats,,,,,Nope.

Biden and the CDC have shirked public health for political reasons.

His COVID policy is democidal dogshit. At least Trump greased the skids for an effective vaccine.

Y'all made disease control taboo, then Biden normalized the taboo.

It's civilizationally decadent to pose disease mitigation as the problem during an ongoing global pandemic.

[Winehole23]

Continuity, not change.

[Winehole23]

SARS-CoV-2 is a biosafety level 3 biohazard.

But sure, go hotbox it at the doctor's office.

1699911075028697432


The CDC has recently outlined biosafety guidelines (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/lab/lab-biosafety-guidelines.html) specific to SARS-CoV-2 isolates or cultures, recommending that virus isolation and characterization of viral agents from SAR-CoV-2 specimens must be processed within a BSL-3 laboratory space using BSL-3 procedures. However, they have also recommended that a BSL-2 laboratory may perform routine diagnostic testing (refer to CDC for list of tests) of specimens using Standard Precautions. Further, CDC recommends procedures like virus concentration, precipitation or filtration may be performed in a unidirectional air-flow BSL-2 provided certain BSL-3 precautions and procedures are followed.https://consteril.com/biosafety-level-guidance-covid-19-research/

[HemisfairArena]

Nope.

Biden and the CDC have shirked public health for political reasons.

His COVID policy is democidal dogshit. At least Trump greased the skids for an effective vaccine.

Y'all made disease control taboo, then Biden normalized the taboo.

It's civilizationally decadent to pose disease mitigation as the problem during an ongoing global pandemic.


lmao,,,what do you mean normalized the taboo? You implying Biden and you democrats are now saying its ok to kill people infected?

[Winehole23]

lmao,,,what do you mean normalized the taboo? You implying Biden and you democrats are now saying its ok to kill people infected?protection for the old, the sick, disabled and immunocompromised folks has been completely deemphasized in public spaces, even in doctors offices and hospitals.

so yeah, I'd say they're all back in the sacrifice zone by political choice. so-called essential workers have always been there. there was a lot of casual disregard for death baked into the old normal, if anything that obliviousness has grown.

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funny, i dont see democrats putting a strangle hold on America and the economy like they did under Trump when covid rose its deadly head,,,nope, no business closures or mask mandates this time around,,,,no way,,,no chance this close to a presidential election for democrats,,,,,

Hemi

[Winehole23]

Cali HS football games canceled due to outbreaks.

https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/santa-paula-high-school-cancels-football-game-due-to-covid-outbreak/

[Winehole23]

Multiple Texas schools have also had to postpone games this weekend. One Texas school district even had to switch to 6-on-6 football games due to a “Covid outbreak,” across schools.https://www.outkick.com/covid-is-back-multiple-california-high-school-football-games-cancelled-as-reported-cases-rise/

[Winehole23]

Out kick might not be a reliable source..

[Winehole23]

Public health is the bugbear -- not disease. Even for the Biden administration.

Low cost, effective mitigation of harm is seen as more harmful than the disease itself, which is still rampant worldwide and will continue to sicken, disable and kill people.

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[Winehole23]

"it's just a cold"


Patients with coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) present increased risk for ischemic cardiovascular complications up to 1 year after infection. Although the systemic inflammatory response to severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) infection likely contributes to this increased cardiovascular risk, whether SARS-CoV-2 directly infects the coronary vasculature and attendant atherosclerotic plaques remains unknown. Here we report that SARS-CoV-2 viral RNA is detectable and replicates in coronary lesions taken at autopsy from severe COVID-19 cases. SARS-CoV-2 targeted plaque macrophages and exhibited a stronger tropism for arterial lesions than adjacent perivascular fat, correlating with macrophage infiltration levels. SARS-CoV-2 entry was increased in cholesterol-loaded primary macrophages and dependent, in part, on neuropilin-1. SARS-CoV-2 induced a robust inflammatory response in cultured macrophages and human atherosclerotic vascular explants with secretion of cytokines known to trigger cardiovascular events. Our data establish that SARS-CoV-2 infects coronary vessels, inducing plaque inflammation that could trigger acute cardiovascular complications and increase the long-term cardiovascular risk.https://www.nature.com/articles/s44161-023-00336-5#Sec7

[Winehole23]

"it's just a cold"

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[Thread]

Out kick might not be a reliable source..


Public health is the bugbear -- not disease. Even for the Biden administration.

Low cost, effective mitigation of harm is seen as more harmful than the disease itself, which is still rampant worldwide and will continue to sicken, disable and kill people.

1705201267847348625


"it's just a cold"

https://www.nature.com/articles/s44161-023-00336-5#Sec7


"it's just a cold"

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"I'll shut it down." - Biden

Uh, uh. Nope.

[Monostradamus]

Nobel Prize goes to scientists behind mRNA Covid vaccines

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-66983060 (https://www.bbc.com/news/health-66983060)

Tough couple weeks for Joey. First the news that he works for his mom, and now this.

[RandomGuy]

"it's just a cold"

https://www.nature.com/articles/s44161-023-00336-5#Sec7

yikes.

[Winehole23]

Correlates with liver damage and disease, even in otherwise healthy people.


The literature is full of cases demonstrating acute liver injury weeks after recuperation from COVID-19 in otherwise healthy people.¹⁵

Multiple studies have revealed damage in multiple organs, including the liver, in up to 70% of people after COVID-19. This statistic is 59% after one year, including in those with mild infections.¹⁶ ¹⁷

More and more evidence is accumulating to show that the virus or remnants of it are found in tissues after recovery from acute COVID-19. This indicates the possibility of “viral reservoirs” in the development of long COVID. The phenomenon of viral reservoirs has been extensively demonstrated in the liver alongside other gastrointestinal organs.¹⁸ Liver damage may therefore continue after you have recovered from acute COVID-19.¹⁹https://healthmatch.io/liver-disease/covid-and-liver-damage#overview

[Blake]

"it's just a cold"

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WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT SOME PRIZE GIVEN TO YOUR CRAZY LIBTARD SCIENTISTS THAT HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. THEY CAN DIE FOR ALL I CARE.

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WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT SOME PRIZE GIVEN TO YOUR CRAZY LIBTARD SCIENTISTS THAT HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. THEY CAN DIE FOR ALL I CARE.

Sure, absolutely, once-upon-a-time these prizes were respected, devoutly so, but, as usual MSM, in tight association with the Liberals (your fuckin' people, Blake) infiltrated them, corrupted them and turned them. Everything you fucks touch---turns to shit.

American Democracy, indeed.

[Tyronn Lue]

Sure, absolutely, once-upon-a-time these prizes were respected, devoutly so, but, as usual MSM, in tight association with the Liberals (your fuckin' people, Blake) infiltrated them, corrupted them and turned them. Everything you fucks touch---turns to shit.

American Democracy, indeed.
Qualifying? Looks like lodging an asterisk.

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Qualifying? Looks like lodging an asterisk.

I don't do asterisks, ever. It's my religion.

[Tyronn Lue]

I don't do asterisks, ever. It's my religion.
We can overlook this one.

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We can overlook this one.

Don't start, Lue. We just buried the perverbial hatchet. I don't want it dug up again and chasing each other with the damn thing. I'm too old for that malarkey.

[Winehole23]

this is a preprint, but the the study size is large. evidence for the correlation of immune derangement and SARS2 infection keeps piling up.


AbstractObjectives

To investigate whether the risk of developing an incident autoimmune disease is increased in patients with previous COVID-19 disease compared to people without COVID-19.

Method

A cohort was selected from German routine health care data covering 38.9 million individuals. Based on documented diagnoses, we identified individuals with polymerase chain reaction (PCR)-confirmed COVID-19 through December 31, 2020. Patients were matched 1:3 to control patients without COVID-19. Both groups were followed up until June 30, 2021. We used the four quarters preceding the index date until the end of follow-up to analyze the onset of autoimmune diseases during the post-acute period. Incidence rates (IR) per 1000 person-years were calculated for each outcome and patient group. Poisson models were deployed to estimate the incidence rate ratios (IRRs) of developing an autoimmune disease conditional on a preceding diagnosis of COVID-19.

Results

In total, 641,704 patients with COVID-19 were included. Comparing the incidence rates in the COVID-19 (IR=15.05, 95% CI: 14.69-15.42) and matched control groups (IR=10.55, 95% CI: 10.25-10.86), we found a 42.63% higher likelihood of acquiring autoimmunity for patients who had suffered from COVID-19. This estimate was similar for common autoimmune diseases, such as Hashimoto thyroiditis, rheumatoid arthritis, or Sjögren syndrome. The highest IRR was observed for autoimmune disease of the vasculitis group. Patients with a more severe course of COVID-19 were at a greater risk for incident autoimmune diseases.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.01.25.23285014v1

[Winehole23]

COVID may infect the central nervous system even in subclinical cases.

"It's just a cold"


In this study, researchers from the Institut Pasteur and Université Paris Cité have demonstrated, in an animal model, that a panel of SARS-CoV-2 variants of interest (the original strain of the virus first detected in Wuhan and the gamma, delta and omicron/BA.1 variants) can enter the central nervous system and remain there during the acute phase of the infection.

The researchers observed that all these variants spread to the central nervous system and infect the olfactory bulb, a structure located in the cranial cavity that processes olfactory information before transmitting it to the cortex.

"In this study, we demonstrated that infection of the olfactory bulb is common to all variants and not linked to any particular one, nor to any particular clinical manifestation such as anosmia," explains Guilherme Dias de Melo, first author of the study and researcher in the Institut Pasteur's Lyssavirus, Epidemiology and Neuropathology Unit.

Moreover, the researchers identified a genetic sequence linked to anosmia in the ancestral (Wuhan) virus. When this genetic sequence, which encodes the ORF7ab protein, is deleted or truncated—which is the case in certain variants less likely to produce anosmia—the incidence of olfactory loss in infected animals is lower even though the degree of neuronal infection via the olfactory bulbs remains unchanged.

"This suggests that anosmia and neuronal infection are two unrelated phenomena," says Guilherme Dias de Melo. "If we follow this line of reasoning, it is quite possible that even an asymptomatic—and therefore clinically benign—infection is characterized by the spread of the virus in the nervous system."https://medicalxpress.com/news/2023-10-sars-cov-virus-migrate-neurons-infect.html

[koriwhat]

1707424934841004471
Pussies!

[Winehole23]

Indoor air quality in the 21st century is (or could be) analogous to the importance of water sanitation in the 20th century.

it's not just about SARS2, the burden of respiratory disease in general could be massively reduced, and social productivity correspondingly increased.

what's so wrong with being healthier and more productive?

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[Thread]

Indoor air quality in the 21st century is (or could be) analogous to the importance of water sanitation in the 20th century.

it's not just about SARS2, the burden of respiratory disease in general could be massively reduced, and social productivity correspondingly increased.

what's so wrong with being healthier and more productive?

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Look at Winester, actin' all high & mighty. Ya look pisser, ya little crapper, you.

[SnakeBoy]

but muh sequelae


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4tlmsQFyxg

[Winehole23]

No shit, Sherlock.

CoVID is still a top five cause of death not counting sequelae.

[Winehole23]

4 years ago it wasn't even on the scoreboard.

[koriwhat]

No shit, Sherlock.

CoVID is still a top five cause of death not counting sequelae.

Sure bud, whatever you say chickenshit. :tu

[Winehole23]

Eugenics is about the relative disposability of people. The popular and public health responses to SARS2 underscore the persistence of attitudes wholly consistent with it.

"it only kills old people"

"they had an underlying condition"

"they were fat"


The hidden history of eugenics continues to affect the world today. Our nationwide response to COVID-19 illustrates how public health policies and medical practice are still guided by a belief system disadvantaging the captive and vulnerable. Premised on a subconscious blueprint of eugenic thinking, our COVID-19 response has highlighted an underclass of the “unfit” and “undervalued,” whose lives are literally treated as less valuable. Although we stopped formally espousing eugenics after its embrace by Nazi powers, its philosophy continued to thrive post WWII.

We have continued to practice the tenets of eugenics in a variety of ways. Our poor treatment of and continuing incarceration of many physically and intellectually/developmentally disabled individuals, in long-term care homes, mental institutions, and nursing homes, still reflects our instinct to segregate and detain those citizens who are not physically, psychologically, or intellectual “fit.” Accordingly, it should be no surprise that our response to COVID-19 uses the familiar blueprint of eugenics, with predictable consequences for the captive and vulnerable, who are pushed to the side, ignored, or sacrificed for the “greater good.”
https://hphr.org/30-article-appleman/

[Winehole23]

WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT SOME PRIZE GIVEN TO YOUR CRAZY LIBTARD SCIENTISTS THAT HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. THEY CAN DIE FOR ALL I CARE.convincing ignorant people that reflexive distrust of experts is savvy critical thinking is a subterfuge of stupidity in favor of a bad status quo.

[Winehole23]

what happened in 2020?

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1724336267255848960/GkDaxLWY?format=png&name=small

[Winehole23]

Covid is airborne


Spread of COVID-19 occurs via airborne particles and droplets. People who are infected with COVID can release particles and droplets of respiratory fluids that contain the SARS CoV-2 virus into the air when they exhale (e.g., quiet breathing, speaking, singing, exercise, coughing, sneezing). The droplets or aerosol particles vary across a wide range of sizes – from visible to microscopic. Once infectious droplets and particles are exhaled, they move outward from the person (the source). These droplets carry the virus and transmit infection. Indoors, the very fine droplets and particles will continue to spread through the air in the room or space and can accumulate.

Since COVID-19 is transmitted through contact with respiratory fluids carrying the infectious SARS-CoV-2 virus, a person can be exposed by an infected person coughing or speaking near them. They can also be exposed by inhaling aerosol particles that are spreading away from the infected person. Transmission of COVID-19 from inhalation of virus in the air can occur at distances greater than six feet. Particles from an infected person can move throughout an entire room or indoor space. The particles can also linger in the air after a person has left the room – they can remain airborne for hours in some cases. Someone can also be exposed via splashes and sprays of respiratory fluids directly onto their mucous membranes. Spread may also sometimes occur through contact with contaminated surfaces, though this route is now considered less likely. See Science and Technical Resources related to Indoor Air and Coronavirus (COVID-19) (https://www.epa.gov/coronavirus/science-and-technical-resources-related-indoor-air-and-coronavirus-covid-19) or ​Indoor Air and COVID-19 Key References and Publications (https://www.epa.gov/coronavirus/indoor-air-and-covid-19-key-references-and-publications) for technical information.

Though the risk of infection by breathing in particles carrying the virus generally decreases with distance from infected people and with time, some circumstances increase the risk of infection:



Being indoors rather than outdoors, particularly in indoor environments where ventilation with outside air is inadequate
Activities that increase emission of respiratory fluids, such as speaking loudly, singing, or exercising
Prolonged time of exposure (e.g. longer than a few minutes)
Crowded spaces, particularly if face coverings are inconsistently or improperly worn



There are straightforward steps that can be taken to reduce the potential for airborne transmission of COVID-19 and the focus of this material is on those measures. The layout and design of a building, as well as occupancy and type of heating, ventilation, and air conditioning (HVAC) system, can all impact potential airborne spread of the virus. The Clean Air in Buildings Challenge (https://www.epa.gov/indoor-air-quality-iaq/clean-air-buildings-challenge) is a call to action and a set of guiding principles and best practices to assist building owners and operators with reducing risks from airborne viruses and other contaminants indoors.

Although improvements to ventilation and air cleaning cannot on their own eliminate the risk of airborne transmission of the SARS-CoV-2 virus, EPA recommends increasing ventilation with outdoor air and air filtration as important components of a larger strategy that may include physical distancing, wearing cloth face coverings or masks, surface cleaning (https://www.epa.gov/coronavirus), handwashing, and other precautions. Consult guidance from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/communication/guidance.html)) and local authorities on current guidelines on the use of masks. https://www.epa.gov/coronavirus/indoor-air-and-coronavirus-covid-19

[Winehole23]

Engineering solutions for sanitizing indoor air would work for all airborne pathogens, with a huge bonus for public health and economic productivity.

What's not to like?

[Winehole23]

Mystery pneumonia (http://https://x.com/GrGuenter/status/1727847605265154117?s=20) hitting kids in China too, while CDC is under advisement by HIPAC to weaken infection controls.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/judystone/2023/11/24/cdc-told-to-weaken-infection-protections-as-mysterious-pneumonia-brews-overseas/

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[Winehole23]

CD4 depletion is a feature of COVID too.

[Winehole23]

Netted out, when a disease depletes CD4 helper T-cells, your immune system can't fight off other infections as well. Which is why you see AIDS patients, for example, succumbing to a host of opportunistic infections that usually don't sicken or kill healthy people.

[Winehole23]

Lymphocytopenia is most often due to AIDS, and recently COVID-19, or undernutrition, but it also may be inherited or caused by various infections, drugs, or autoimmune disorders. Patients have recurrent viral, bacterial, fungal, or parasitic infections.https://www.merckmanuals.com/professional/hematology-and-oncology/leukopenias/lymphocytopenia

[Winehole23]

It’s pretty incredible how hater falls for every fearmongering trick :lolwhat's even more striking to me is how hater became a dedicated COVID minimizer and anti-vax shill after shit got real.

[Winehole23]

chaos agent, totally principle-free, zero intellectual integrity

[Winehole23]

Did everybody dieded yet?one million plus in the US, ~ 7 million reported deaths worldwide, ~ 15 million excess deaths since 2020

[Winehole23]

To put this in context, 80,000 people in the US died from the Flu in 2018 according to AP.this post did not age well

[Winehole23]

The grasshoppers in Africa are going to kill exponentially more people than the Corona19 virus.CC's authoritative prognostications cannot be relied upon

[Winehole23]

"It's just a cold"


For over half the people who recover from COVID-19, some symptoms linger for as long as three years, according to a new study published this week in The Lancet Respiratory Medicinehttps://www.foxnews.com/health/over-half-people-get-covid-have-lingering-symptoms-3-years-study-finds

[pgardn]

Mystery pneumonia (http://https://x.com/GrGuenter/status/1727847605265154117?s=20) hitting kids in China too, while CDC is under advisement by HIPAC to weaken infection controls.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/judystone/2023/11/24/cdc-told-to-weaken-infection-protections-as-mysterious-pneumonia-brews-overseas/

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Chinese genetic engineering again.
Get Pizza boy on this STAT!

[Winehole23]

Chinese genetic engineering again.
Get Pizza boy on this STAT!with COVID's well-clocked effect of immune derangement, mycoplasma is just one of many pathogens in line to present new pressures on human health.

[Winehole23]

Infection control could mitigate that, but it's inconvenient and politically unpopular.

[Winehole23]

The research utilized a relatively new brain imaging technique called diffusion microstructure imaging (DMI). The technique tracks the movement of water molecules through brain tissue to deliver a high-resolution picture of the microstructures of the brain.https://newatlas.com/medical/structural-brain-changes-detected-long-covid-imaging/

[Ef-man]

Chinese genetic engineering again.
Get Pizza boy on this STAT!

Damn Chinese and their leaky biolabs!

[Winehole23]

we're in the eighth wave (https://x.com/JPWeiland/status/1731866594828038400?s=20)

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Damn Chinese and their leaky biolabs!

As funny as "I'll shut it down."

[Winehole23]

Al-Aly’s study undertook a comparative analysis of 94 pre-specified health outcomes and found that over 18 months of follow-up, COVID was associated with a “significantly increased risk” for 64 of them, or nearly 70%. The disease’s enhanced risk list includes everything from cardiac arrest, stroke, chronic kidney disease, and cognitive impairment to mental health and fatigue, two characteristics often associated with long COVID.

By comparison, the seasonal flu was associated with increased risk in only six of the 94 conditions specified. Further, while COVID increased the risks for almost all the organ systems studied, the flu heightened risk primarily for the pulmonary(lung) system. Those findings, Al-Aly says, suggest that “COVID is really a multi-systemic disease, and flu is more a respiratory virus.”
https://fortune.com/2023/12/14/covid-19-v-flu-more-serious-threat-new-study-health-carolyn-barber/

[Winehole23]

Hospitals and emergency rooms could be forced to ration care by the end of this month, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention warned Thursday, saying recent trends in COVID-19 and influenza are now on track to again strain America's health care system.https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-variant-jn1-flu-surge-hospitals-cdc-warns/

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-variant-jn1-flu-surge-hospitals-cdc-warns/

Oh, Christ, here comes CNN Bogarting said hospitals into allowing CNN cameras in there once again..."You push the gurneys of the ones without Insurance into the hallways. We'll be quick with the cameras and then we'll help you push the gurneys of the dead beats back into their assigned rooms, I mean wards. A stipend will be left at the foot of each dead beat bed in a common manila envelope with the Star of...David stamped onto it. Savvy? Mazeltoph."

[Winehole23]

SARS2 can infect neutrophils, macrophages, monocytes, plasma B cells, T cells, and NK cells, triggering pyroptosis (inflammatory programmed cell death) and cytokine storms.

You should hotbox it every chance you get.


"Since the beginning of the pandemic, we have been studying the coronavirus using single-cell multiomics, which means mapping the genes of immune cells, cell by cell, to understand how the virus works,” explains Giuseppe Testa, corresponding author of the study at the University of Milan, and head of neurogenomics at Human Technopole.

The approach was applied to a cohort of COVID-19 patients admitted in the early stages of the pandemic and followed by Anna Maria Cattelan's team in Padua. It was a longitudinal study: the same patients were mapped at three stages of the disease: on admission, at discharge and one month after discharge. At each of these three stages, a 'snapshot' of the gene expression in the individual cells of these patients was obtained, resulting in the expression of all 20,000 genes of each cell studied.

A molecular pathway emerged that had not been associated before to viral infection: the activation of the RAGE receptor in monocytes, a type of white blood cells, was correlated with a worse COVID-19 prognosis. “RAGE activation in monocytes was already known to correlate with more severe inflammatory outcomes, diabetes and obesity, but had never been observed in the context of viral infection. This finding is also interesting because monocytes do not possess the other receptor, ACE2, which is the main gateway for SARS-CoV-2 to enter the body," explains Testa.

This result, obtained in the Padova cohort, was then validated on 13 large datasets from around the world.https://www.nature.com/articles/d43978-023-00179-5

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SARS2 can infect neutrophils, macrophages, monocytes, plasma B cells, T cells, and NK cells, triggering pyroptosis (inflammatory programmed cell death) and cytokine storms.

You should hotbox it every chance you get.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d43978-023-00179-5

I'm interested in Biden's COVID death count. What's the latest number, fruitcake?