Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

[Winehole23]

:lol



Under 60 have 2%? Serious consequences from covid?

Not sure about risk of damage by vaccine to young but its big enough for investigations to.start. thus why I posted it :tuso long as you're honest that you're shooting in the dark and making figures up, I'm good :tu

[hater]

so long as you're honest that you're shooting in the dark and making figures up, I'm good :tu

Yeah shooting in the dark. Investigation is ongoing. Thats a fact. Joe

[Winehole23]

Yeah shooting in the dark. Investigation is ongoing. Thats a fact. Joeyou're not the investigator, Joe.

:lol

[Winehole23]

peer-reviewed study on the Wuhan outbreak, cue the Republican whining

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[Winehole23]

the thing we bent the curve last year to prevent from happening is now happening

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9PRXlmWQAEBcqW?format=png&name=large

[hater]

you're not the investigator, Joe.

:lol

Never claimed that, joe

[Winehole23]

Never claimed that, joeI've already got you down for shooting the dark, thanks.

[hater]

I've already got you down for shooting the dark, thanks.

Sure joe. Your notes will.be relevant someday :lmao

[Winehole23]

lol DeSantis

I can see why hater likes him

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[hater]

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1428222670131314695?s=19

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/55771757_2590299867664494_6788906022825099264_n.jp g?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=qijpR19_H5UAX-K3nVZ&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=654c5e9c49ab90f7b23280b0143a68e0&oe=614464E5

[hater]

https://twitter.com/logicbot7/status/1428172138490519565?s=19

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/100922761_10222296536347283_1590381060623958016_n. jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=OwV6YQqlgM4AX-Ub6q0&tn=hwx9aLrAXgIspBor&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=3b6499c81275b7808ecefb86f2c163c0&oe=614432B6

[RandomGuy]

Dumb


Risk of infection is 100% including on vaccinated.

Arent you currently infected qnd vaxed?? :lol

You say vaccines have harm X at some rate.

How does that compare to harm Y from the disease?

Compare and contrast, and be sure to use data for how often per 1,000 people each effects.

Example:
wearing a seat belt will strangle one out of a million people after an accident.
not wearing a seat belt kills 4,000 out of a million people in an accident.

Do that calculus for the vaccine/disease.

[RandomGuy]

https://twitter.com/logicbot7/status/1428172138490519565?s=19

What is the rate of hospitalization?

Big difference between being infected with a case of the sniffles, and being infected on a ventilator, dipshit.

[Trill Clinton]

1428541606391582728?

Only a matter of time before the "blame the niggas" strat came out. So far its unvaxxed mexicans and black people's fault covid cases are rising. Mind you we only account for 10% of the states population.

[hater]

What is the rate of hospitalization?

Big difference between being infected with a case of the sniffles, and being infected on a ventilator, dipshit.

.its high enough for fully vaxed Israel to shutdown again and apply a 3rd booster, dipshit

[baseline bum]

1428541606391582728?

Only a matter of time before the "blame the niggas" strat came out. So far its unvaxxed mexicans and black people's fault covid cases are rising. Mind you we only account for 10% of the states population.

What else is dixie going to do? Blame the blacks and mexicans is their strategy for everything, has been for 400+ years.

[hater]

1428541606391582728?

Only a matter of time before the "blame the niggas" strat came out. So far its unvaxxed mexicans and black people's fault covid cases are rising. Mind you we only account for 10% of the states population.

Messican and blacks are 30% of US ma niga

Qdd another 10% if you want to include other centrala and south americans

[RandomGuy]

[dur dee hurr]

that doesn't answer my question you fucktard.

What is the difference in hospitalization rates between vaccinated and unvaccinated in Israel?

[hater]

that doesn't answer my question you fucktard.

What is the difference in hospitalization rates between vaccinated and unvaccinated in Israel?

:lmao you just asked a totally different question, dipshit


What is the rate of hospitalization?
.

:lmao

[ducks]

Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick says 'African Americans who have not been vaccinated' are driving covid surge

https://www.yahoo.com/news/texas-lt-gov-dan-patrick-120812724.html

[RandomGuy]

What is the difference in hospitalization rates between vaccinated and unvaccinated in Israel?


:lmao you just asked a totally different question, dipshit

:lmao

It's called clarification. It's the same question.

And you still didn't answer it, you fucking idiot.

What is the difference in hospitalization rates between vaccinated and unvaccinated in Israel?

[DarrinS]

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/nearly-60-of-hospitalized-covid-19-patients-in-israel-fully-vaccinated-study-finds.html

[hater]

It's called clarification. It's the same question.

And you still didn't answer it, you fucking idiot.

What is the difference in hospitalization rates between vaccinated and unvaccinated in Israel?

They are 2 different questions, Einstein :lmao

"What are the hospitalization rates"

"What is the difference in hospitalization rates"

:lmao

[hater]

"Of 514 patients in Israel hospitalized with COVID-19 as of Aug. 15, 59 percent were fully vaccinated, according to an Aug. 16 article from Science that cited national data tracked by Israel's largest health management organization. The figures suggest breakthrough infections may be more common than the term implies, the report suggests. "

:lmao Randommoron

[Thread]

Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick says 'African Americans who have not been vaccinated' are driving covid surge

https://www.yahoo.com/news/texas-lt-gov-dan-patrick-120812724.html

Media ain't about to touch this, Right, or, Left. Nobody who has these plum jobs want to end up on a bread line and forsaken ever more.

[Thread]

"Of 514 patients in Israel hospitalized with COVID-19 as of Aug. 15, 59 percent were fully vaccinated, according to an Aug. 16 article from Science that cited national data tracked by Israel's largest health management organization. The figures suggest breakthrough infections may be more common than the term implies, the report suggests. "

:lmao Randommoron

...same here in America. Because this is the comprehensive push for when the vaccine is ready for the under 11 children...and for 9-20 when the entire 350 million of us will in the same spot once and again...in need of another shot.

[SnakeBoy]

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[RandomGuy]

"Of 514 patients in Israel hospitalized with COVID-19 as of Aug. 15, 59 percent were fully vaccinated, according to an Aug. 16 article from Science that cited national data tracked by Israel's largest health management organization. The figures suggest breakthrough infections may be more common than the term implies, the report suggests. "

:lmao Randommoron

That isn't the hospitalization rate you idiot. That is the number of people hospitalized, and the proportion of hospitalizations, , and that is meaningless, unless you are ignorant of statistics.

Fuck, this is not a difficult concept.

Out of every 1000 people vaccinated, what % end up in the hospital after getting sick? THE RATE of hospitalization.

Out of every 1000 people unvaccinated, what % end up in the hospital after getting sick? THE RATE of hospitalization.

It may help you to familiarize yourself with Bayes Theorem.

HaYbxQC61pw

[RandomGuy]

1428407830093041664

Was Fauci talking about hospitalizations, or cases?

[spurraider21]

:lmao people trusting rand


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg2V4Cne0Jc

[hater]

That isn't the hospitalization rate you idiot. That is the number of people hospitalized, and the proportion of hospitalizations, , and that is meaningless, unless you are ignorant of statistics.

Fuck, this is not a difficult concept.

Out of every 1000 people vaccinated, what % end up in the hospital after getting sick? THE RATE of hospitalization.

Out of every 1000 people unvaccinated, what % end up in the hospital after getting sick? THE RATE of hospitalization.

It may help you to familiarize yourself with Bayes Theorem.

HaYbxQC61pw

Already told unthe hospitalization rate was high enough to trigger a shutdown

:lol

[SnakeBoy]

Out of every 1000 people vaccinated, what % end up in the hospital after getting sick? THE RATE of hospitalization.



https://media2.giphy.com/media/26xBJp4dcSdGxv2Zq/giphy.gif

[Blake]

Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick says 'African Americans who have not been vaccinated' are driving covid surge

https://www.yahoo.com/news/texas-lt-gov-dan-patrick-120812724.html

Patrick makes Abbott look like a hippie liberal

[RandomGuy]

Already told unthe hospitalization rate was high enough to trigger a shutdown

:lol

Population of 500,000 people. 80% have been vaccinated.

Hospital beds for 500 are occupied by people with disease X

250 are vaccinated.
250 are not.

Did the vaccine work?


Population of 500,000 people. 80% have been vaccinated.

Hospital beds for 500 are occupied by people with disease X

Of the 500, 125 are seriously ill, close to death.

5 of the seriously ill are vaccinated.
120 of the seriously ill are not.

Did the vaccine work?

[SnakeBoy]

Population of 500,000 people. 80% have been vaccinated.

Hospital beds for 500 are occupied by people with disease X

250 are vaccinated.
250 are not.

Did the vaccine work?


Population of 500,000 people. 80% have been vaccinated.

Hospital beds for 500 are occupied by people with disease X

Of the 500, 125 are seriously ill, close to death.

5 of the seriously ill are vaccinated.
120 of the seriously ill are not.

Did the vaccine work?

Old data is old

Walensky got called out on using old data and asked what is the current data

We're working on it and we'll let you know but maybe get a 3rd shot

[DMC]

Why hasn't anyone realized there's no such as "delta variant" virus and these infections are all breakthroughs?

[spurraider21]

Why hasn't anyone realized there's no such as "delta variant" virus and these infections are all breakthroughs?
there was no moon landing either

[SnakeBoy]

.

[boutons_deux]

U.Va. disenrolled 238 students for failing to show proof of COVID-19 vaccination or file an exemption, according to The (Norfolk) Virginian-Pilot. (https://link.axios.com/click/24809897.291951/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucGlsb3RvbmxpbmUuY29tL25ld3MvZWR1Y2 F0aW9uL3ZwLW53LWRpc2Vucm9sbC1zdHVkZW50cy11dmEtMjAy MTA4MTktbTYzYmd4dDJ1YmNnemJnZW12ZXQ1b3dsYWktc3Rvcn kuaHRtbD91dG1fc291cmNlPW5ld3NsZXR0ZXImdXRtX21lZGl1 bT1lbWFpbCZ1dG1fY2FtcGFpZ249bmV3c2xldHRlcl9heGlvc3 BtJnN0cmVhbT10b3A/6004bc4704300c1ae269be66Ba195d677)

[DMC]

there was no moon landing either

You know Bill Gates is involved in the vaccine if it takes multiple updates to work.

[koriwhat]

I just had a friend (Christian Scientist type) and his wife both unvaxxed get it and he is in the hospital.
Things stick in your head when it happens close to home.
Yep.
Good guy. Just always loved the weird and impossible world. Made him unique in my group. Crazy Chuck.

That's such a pity for your friend and his family. All the good wishes and prayers going towards Crazy Chuck's way!

[RandomGuy]

Old data is old

Walensky got called out on using old data and asked what is the current data

We're working on it and we'll let you know but maybe get a 3rd shot

?? Not sure what your point is here.

My example was merely an attempt to illustrate a concept of how to use an accurate understanding of statistics.

Had to google Walensky, and about all I saw was conservative attack pieces, so I assume by "called out" you mean you read something that told you to be outraged, and clicked on it.

[RandomGuy]

You know Bill Gates is involved in the vaccine if it takes multiple updates to work.

:lol

Well played.

[RandomGuy]

Why hasn't anyone realized there's no such as "delta variant" virus and these infections are all breakthroughs?

Maybe because they have DNA sequencing and have cataloged the specific DNA of the variant?

[DMC]

Maybe because they have DNA sequencing and have cataloged the specific DNA of the variant?

Have you done this yourself?

[Thread]

Why hasn't anyone realized there's no such as "delta variant" virus and these infections are all breakthroughs?

Because there goes that NYC concert tomorrow evening that CNN has been pimping for a fortnight.

Probably this Sunday on their morning shows.

[RandomGuy]

Have you done this yourself?

Not my job. No.

[DMC]

Not my job. No.

So you're taking someone's word for it.

[DMC]

So this genomic sequencing is happening on every positive test result to filter out the delta variant? Or is it simply being assumed to be delta now because genomic sequencing is time consuming and not widely available?

[spurraider21]

So you're taking someone's word for it.
welcome to the world of science

have you personally documented the photoelectric effect?

[RandomGuy]

So you're taking someone's word for it.

https://fullfact.org/health/delta-variant-tests/

Yup. No reason not to trust the testing process, as the people involved have the relevant experience and expertise.

I always extend the benefit of the doubt in such cases. It is the reasonable thing to do.

[RandomGuy]

'They were very sick': Viral photo of people on floor at Florida clinic shows troubled scene
https://www.yahoo.com/news/were-very-sick-viral-photo-002311187.html
https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/0ajf7e5hWy7hOVm3610zfg--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTcwNTtoPTkzOS42MzI4MTI1O2 NmPXdlYnA-/https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/.6yK0uGDXI3tTiN_m9trsg--~B/aD04NTM7dz02NDA7YXBwaWQ9eXRhY2h5b24-/https://media.zenfs.com/en/usa_today_news_641/d89ecf813709f886fc24877b3d09e7e7

Because... Florida.




... is run by a death cult.

[Thread]

'They were very sick': Viral photo of people on floor at Florida clinic shows troubled scene
https://www.yahoo.com/news/were-very-sick-viral-photo-002311187.html
https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/0ajf7e5hWy7hOVm3610zfg--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTcwNTtoPTkzOS42MzI4MTI1O2 NmPXdlYnA-/https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/.6yK0uGDXI3tTiN_m9trsg--~B/aD04NTM7dz02NDA7YXBwaWQ9eXRhY2h5b24-/https://media.zenfs.com/en/usa_today_news_641/d89ecf813709f886fc24877b3d09e7e7

Because... Florida.




... is run by a death cult.

It's all on mother fucker Biden, RG.

Let us proceed...

[DMC]

welcome to the world of science

have you personally documented the photoelectric effect?

Yes. I was an engineer for solar, idiot.

[DMC]

So this genomic sequencing is happening on every positive test result to filter out the delta variant? Or is it simply being assumed to be delta now because genomic sequencing is time consuming and not widely available?

tick tock

[spurraider21]

Yes. I was an engineer for solar, idiot.
damn. i imagine you have also personally observed the cosmic microwave background and measured the red shift of distant galaxies, etc. and have personally seen mitosis in action. you've personally gone to excavation sites and seen the fossil record (no, not the recreations in museums, the actual sites)

otherwise there's no way you'd believe in things like the big bang theory, evolution, etc

[spurraider21]

So this genomic sequencing is happening on every positive test result to filter out the delta variant? Or is it simply being assumed to be delta now because genomic sequencing is time consuming and not widely available?
no. it has already been explained.

they dont do genomic sequencing on every single positive test, because that would be costly and time consuming. instead, they will conduct sequencing on sample amounts in different regions to determine the prevalence of that particular strain

[Thread]

On the CNN homepage:::

Dr. Sanjay Gupta: "COVID Isn't Going Away."

No shit, Sherlock.

[hater]

On the CNN homepage:::

Dr. Sanjay Gupta: "COVID Isn't Going Away."

No shit, Sherlock.

:lol

[boutons_deux]

Desantis is setting Regneron treatment centers, but no virus centers

blatant corruption

[koriwhat]

Desantis is setting Regneron treatment centers, but no virus centers

blatant corruption

STFU already you loon! Go back to your echo chamber threads dumbass.

[DMC]

damn. i imagine you have also personally observed the cosmic microwave background and measured the red shift of distant galaxies, etc. and have personally seen mitosis in action. you've personally gone to excavation sites and seen the fossil record (no, not the recreations in museums, the actual sites)

otherwise there's no way you'd believe in things like the big bang theory, evolution, etc

Are we discussing these things here? Who said I believe in these things?

[DMC]

no. it has already been explained.

they dont do genomic sequencing on every single positive test, because that would be costly and time consuming. instead, they will conduct sequencing on sample amounts in different regions to determine the prevalence of that particular strain

So you don't know who actually has the delta variant and who's a breakthrough case, got it.

"well, it must be the Delta variant, he's been vaccinated!"

*writes "delta variant" on results*

Seems pretty convenient to have another virus strain to blame, so you can only count the hits and ignore the misses.

[koriwhat]

So you don't know who actually has the delta variant and who's a breakthrough case, got it.

"well, it must be the Delta variant, he's been vaccinated!"

*writes "delta variant" on results*

Been the same since the inception of the China Virus tbh.

[boutons_deux]

How does COVID-19 affect the brain? A troubling picture emerges.

Researchers find that people who only suffered mild infections

can be plagued with life-altering and sometimes debilitating cognitive deficits.

Davis is among a large portion of COVID-19 patients—possibly as high as 30 percent, according an estimate from the National Institutes of Health (https://www.nimh.nih.gov/news/events/announcements/neurologic-and-psychiatric-effects-of-sars-cov-2-meeting)—who suffer some type of neurological or psychiatric symptoms.

Even more troubling is that for many of these individuals, like Davis,

these cognitive issues can linger for weeks or months after the initial infection.

as the pandemic has dragged on, those clinics have filled with people who were never hospitalized but suffer lingering symptoms, including

brain fog and other cognitive issues.

“The big surprise was the people who never required hospitalization that are having persistent trouble.”

“I’ve never experienced anything like this in my life,” Davis says. “Your body just it feels like it's breaking down. You lose your sense of self.”

“On the worst extreme of the spectrum, people who had gone to hospital and been put onto a ventilator showed the largest underperformance cognitively speaking,”

These individuals had more trouble with reasoning, problem solving, and spatial planning on the test compared to people of their same age group and educational backgrounds who hadn’t been hospitalized with COVID-19.

The difference was similar to the average cognitive decline seen over 10 years of aging.

others worry that cognitive issues caused by

COVID-19 may lead to dementia.

At the Alzheimer’s Association International Conference in July, scientists presented research (https://alz.confex.com/alz/2021/meetingapp.cgi/Paper/57892) showing that

hospitalized COVID-19 patients had similar blood biomarkers, neurodegeneration, and inflammation to those with Alzheimer’s disease.

In the U.S. alone,

millions of people have developed lasting cognitive and neurological problems long after an initial COVID-19 infection.

Some of these patients may be permanently disabled and need long-term care.

“My concern is that we're

going to have huge numbers of the population who aren't able to function at their cognitive baseline.

They can't go back to work, or at least not to what they did before,” Frontera says.

“We haven’t even thought of the long-term implications.

It could be an incredible blow to the economy.”

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/how-does-covid-19-affect-the-brain-a-troubling-picture-emerges

Fuck Trash and his mafiya, Desantis, Abbutt, Fox, etc to hell

[spurraider21]

Are we discussing these things here? Who said I believe in these things?
playing dumb comes very naturally to you

[spurraider21]

So you don't know who actually has the delta variant and who's a breakthrough case, got it.

"well, it must be the Delta variant, he's been vaccinated!"

*writes "delta variant" on results*

Seems pretty convenient to have another virus strain to blame, so you can only count the hits and ignore the misses.
people's covid tests dont say "delta" as far as i'm aware. when my dad got his positive test last month it didnt come with a note identifying the genome or strain

but when 90% of recent cases in your area (from a sample of tests) are delta... you can make a call with some degree of certainty

[Thread]

Desantis is setting Regneron treatment centers, but no virus centers

blatant corruption

He's just tryin' to get under your skin, bouts.

Don't let him. Stay strong.

[Thread]

people's covid tests dont say "delta" as far as i'm aware. when my dad got his positive test last month it didnt come with a note identifying the genome or strain

but when 90% of recent cases in your area (from a sample of tests) are delta... you can make a call with some degree of certainty

Bend over. I'll give ya a fuckin' degree of certainty.

[DMC]

playing dumb comes very naturally to you

Says the person who asked a solar engineer if he ever documented the photoelectric effect in a "gotheem" attempt.

[DMC]

people's covid tests dont say "delta" as far as i'm aware. when my dad got his positive test last month it didnt come with a note identifying the genome or strain

but when 90% of recent cases in your area (from a sample of tests) are delta... you can make a call with some degree of certainty

You're a scientist now.

So when 10% of the votes in your area are fraudulent (based on a sample test), you can make a call with some degree of certainly that 10% of all votes in that area are fraudulent.

[spurraider21]

You're a scientist now.
no, i just read articles about things

[DMC]

no, i just read articles about things

Stick with that.

[spurraider21]

Stick with that.
you might want to pick up on that instead of asking dumb questions

[Adam Lambert]

You're a scientist now.

So when 10% of the votes in your area are fraudulent (based on a sample test), you can make a call with some degree of certainly that 10% of all votes in that area are fraudulent.

Yes you probably could, that's how samples work. Have you seen a study where the sample showed 10% voter fraud?

[DMC]

Yes you probably could, that's how samples work. Have you seen a study where the sample showed 10% voter fraud?

Of course, if the sample size is 10 people and 1 of the votes was fraudulent. Have you ever seen the Big Bang? How do you know it ever happened?

[DMC]

you might want to pick up on that instead of asking dumb questions

You're playing scientist. Keep going.

[Adam Lambert]

Of course, if the sample size is 10 people and 1 of the votes was fraudulent. Have you ever seen the Big Bang? How do you know it ever happened?

That doesn't sound like an actual study with a statistically relevant sample size. That sounds like a fictional study with an arbitrary sample made up by someone who doesn't know anything about statistics.

[Winehole23]

there still seems to be some principled resistance to the notion that the main pathway of infection is respiratory, for some reason.

1428566079941529603

[DMC]

That doesn't sound like an actual study with a statistically relevant sample size. That sounds like a fictional study with an arbitrary sample made up by someone who doesn't know anything about statistics.

So you're a statistician too.

[ChumpDumper]

Is DMCMD doubling down on his "no Delta variant" trolling?:lol

[Adam Lambert]

So you're a statistician too.

Not by trade but I do know basic high school concepts. I'm also not a chemist, but I know how to read a periodic table.

[Ef-man]

Is DMCMD doubling down on his "no Delta variant" trolling?:lol

Both sides, what about, does not exist, and bloviating troll at his worse.

[Winehole23]

Not by trade but I do know basic high school concepts. I'm also not a chemist, but I know how to read a periodic table.

https://merriam-webster.com/assets/mw/images/article/art-wap-landing-mp-lg/sea%20lion%[email protected]

[boutons_deux]

The US Is Getting Covid Booster Shots. The World Is Furious

The White House’s plan to roll out third shots for any American adult is raising

profound questions about global equity.

https://www.wired.com/story/the-us-is-getting-covid-booster-shots-the-world-is-furious/

There is no equity, ethics, morals, humanity in Capitalism

[Thread]

The US Is Getting Covid Booster Shots. The World Is Furious

The White House’s plan to roll out third shots for any American adult is raising

profound questions about global equity.

https://www.wired.com/story/the-us-is-getting-covid-booster-shots-the-world-is-furious/

There is no equity, ethics, morals, humanity in Capitalism



Yep, we're all starting all over again on 9/20.

[pgardn]

Maybe because they have DNA sequencing and have cataloged the specific DNA of the variant?


Have you done this yourself?


So you're taking someone's word for it.

Its an RNA virus not a DNA virus. These viruses vary widely because they use completely different genetic material so we separate them into TWO very large groups or fundamental variations. Viruses vary a great deal so we divide them up into groups in various manners. (yes people actually do categorize all kinds of things based on different criteria, a real eye opener for DMC.) And yes patient samples are taken and sequenced in small scale sampling that is the best way to determine if the DELTA VARIANT (yes it has a different RNA sequence from the wild type that leads to at least 3 significant changes to THREE different proteins which might be very important in its ability to infect) is the virus of interest in infections.

The delta variants within their own group also have differing RNA as well so even "subgroups" here can be tracked. But the variation in sequence does NOT lead to changes in the major proteins that allow the virus to infect, so we dont keep dividing them up into delta 1,2,3 etc... or whatever they have decided to label them yet. (EXCEPTION: in specifically helping to solve the pattern of infection thru a population of the delta just viruses.) So saying there is not a variant is fairly ridiculous.

The nomenclature used for establishing family trees for viruses is ongoing. Variant, is handy.

[Winehole23]

Is DMCMD doubling down on his "no Delta variant" trolling?:lolHard to tell. DMC might be chewing the "rational discussion" frame in his typically blockheaded and pompous way.

[DMC]

Its an RNA virus not a DNA virus.

These viruses vary widely because they use completely different genetic material so we separate them into TWO very large groups or fundamental variations.

Viruses vary a great deal so we divide them up into groups in various manners. (yes people actually do categorize all kinds of things based on different criteria, a real eye opener for DMC.) And yes patient samples are taken and sequenced in small scale sampling that is the best way to determine if the DELTA VARIANT (yes it has a different RNA sequence from the wild type that leads to at least 3 significant changes to THREE different proteins which might be very important in its ability to infect) is the virus of interest in infections.

The delta variants within their own group also have differing RNA as well so even "subgroups" here can be tracked. But the variation in sequence does NOT lead to changes in the major proteins that allow the virus to infect, so we dont keep dividing them up into delta 1,2,3 etc... or whatever they have decided to label them yet. (EXCEPTION: in specifically helping to solve the pattern of infection thru a population of the delta just viruses.) So saying there is not a variant is fairly ridiculous.

The nomenclature used for establishing family trees for viruses is ongoing. Variant, is handy.

Thank you Cliff Clavin.

[DMC]

RandomGrunt sonned right proper

[DMC]

Not by trade but I do know basic high school concepts. I'm also not a chemist, but I know how to read a periodic table.

Glad we got that cleared up.

[boutons_deux]

Poison control calls spike as people take livestock dewormer to treat COVID-19

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https://www.ky3.com/2021/08/20/poison-control-calls-spike-people-take-livestock-dewormer-treat-covid-19

[Thread]

Poison control calls spike as people take livestock dewormer to treat COVID-19

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https://www.ky3.com/2021/08/20/poison-control-calls-spike-people-take-livestock-dewormer-treat-covid-19

& still Biden got dunned with over 1100 dead Americans yesterday, 7 months to the day he stole the Presidency of the United States from the greatest President to ever walk the face of the earth...President Donald J. Trump.

Trump President.
Not Clinton.

[Ef-man]

Poison control calls spike as people take livestock dewormer to treat COVID-19

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https://www.ky3.com/2021/08/20/poison-control-calls-spike-people-take-livestock-dewormer-treat-covid-19

Hey, I am all for these fucks to self medicate themselves to death, it is their right.

Who are we to push our beliefs on others.

[pgardn]

Hard to tell. DMC might be chewing the "rational discussion" frame in his typically blockheaded and pompous way.


Thank you Cliff Clavin.

DMC will use the retort that its not a variation, its called a different variety, something profound like this.


Sorry I dont know Cliff Clavin. Did he pick on people who loathe ever being wrong.
Good for Cliff. You are grammar Cliff with a mix of elementary school teacher, Mrs. Crutchfield.

[baseline bum]

& still Biden got dunned with over 1100 dead Americans yesterday, 7 months to the day he stole the Presidency of the United States from the greatest President to ever walk the face of the earth...President Donald J. Trump.

Trump President.
Not Clinton.

Biden won.
Not Trump.

No amount of whining from you is ever changing that cubby.

[DMC]

DMC will use the retort that its not a variation, its called a different variety, something profound like this.


Sorry I dont know Cliff Clavin. Did he pick on people who loathe ever being wrong.
Good for Cliff. You are grammar Cliff with a mix of elementary school teacher, Mrs. Crutchfield.

You spend an inordinate amount of time focused on me. It's creepy actually.

[Thread]

Biden won.
Not Trump.

No amount of whining from you is ever changing that cubby.

I'll never stop whining, bum. You guys never stopped whining the entire Trump Presidency.

I have my calling.

Let us proceed...

[baseline bum]

I'll never stop whining, bum. You guys never stopped whining the entire Trump Presidency.

I have my calling.

Let us proceed...

False equivalences are all you Trumptards have. LOL thinking you were going to overthrow the election January 6th and catching one in the neck for it instead.

[Thread]

False equivalences are all you Trumptards have. LOL thinking you were going to overthrow the election January 6th and catching one in the neck for it instead.

Like I've said they're damn fortunate they weren't all mowed down. If it's ever attempted again that is precisely what will happen.

Can't ever prove it, but I heartily believe that there were (plants) among the hard core Trumpers. bum, it is the almost (rehearsed) and a sameness to the actions outside & inside that is the tell. It is almost like there was a waltz twixt protester & cop at times.

[pgardn]

You spend an inordinate amount of time focused on me. It's creepy actually.

Yes indeed.
You are the object of so many people's focus.
Why are we all looking at DMC after he has had a joint?

Creepy... from the guy looking thru ST mail... and whatever.

[pgardn]

Like I've said they're damn fortunate they weren't all mowed down. If it's ever attempted again that is precisely what will happen.

Can't ever prove it, but I heartily believe that there were (plants) among the hard core Trumpers. bum, it is the almost (rehearsed) and a sameness to the actions outside & inside that is the tell. It is almost like there was a waltz twixt protester & cop at times.

Most of the hard core Trumpers are potted plants so thats a very astute eye.

And I thank you ladies and gentlemen.
I will be here through the weekend and into early next week.

[Thread]

Most of the hard core Trumpers are potted plants so thats a very astute eye.

And I thank you ladies and gentlemen.
I will be here through the weekend and into early next week.

I shoulda known better.

[hater]

https://twitter.com/B52Malmet/status/1429233093978824710?s=19

[SnakeBoy]

https://twitter.com/B52Malmet/status/1429233093978824710?s=19

I pray they are as strong as John Hagee

[DMC]

Yes indeed.
You are the object of so many people's focus.
Why are we all looking at DMC after he has had a joint?

Creepy... from the guy looking thru ST mail... and whatever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PQS2q1328M&ab_channel=RoxyCakes

[boutons_deux]

https://www.laprogressive.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/give-me-your-hand-1200-1024x791.jpg

[boutons_deux]

Child Cases of COVID:

Hospitalizations a Real Concern

Kids were thought to be in a safe harbor.

The rate of infection among children is skyrocketing (https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/08/13/children-hospitalizations-covid-delta/),

the hospitalization rate is eclipsing peak levels (https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#new-hospital-admissions) recorded in January.

to fast-track its eventual approval of vaccines for those under age 12.

“In our view,” the AAP’s letter reads, “the rise of the Delta variant changes the risk-benefit analysis”

The AAP reported a staggering increase in cases of child COVID,

going from 12,000 the first week in July to 96,000 the first week in August.

The week ending July 29th marked the highest rate of infection (https://downloads.aap.org/AAP/PDF/AAP%20and%20CHA%20-%20Children%20and%20COVID-19%20State%20Data%20Report%207.29%20FINAL.pdf) per 100,000 children since the AAP began tracking the data in April of 2020.

(In terms of raw numbers, infections remain well below their winter peaks.)

“Everybody is a bit nervous about the possibility that the Delta variant could in fact be, in some way, more dangerous in kids,”

https://www.laprogressive.com/child-cases-of-covid

[hater]

https://twitter.com/RichLeighton/status/1429293385328652291?s=19

[boutons_deux]

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[koriwhat]

https://twitter.com/B52Malmet/status/1429233093978824710?s=19

I don't wish them death though I really don't care what happens to that race baiting grifting retard wannabe reverend Jesse the dumbfuck Jackson.

[Winehole23]

1429222295919337477

[boutons_deux]

1429222295919337477

if the person dies, it won't be counted as covid death

Like the guy in the RGV who needed dialysis but Abbutt's BigFreeze had no power at the for-profit dialysis center, guy died. not counted as BigFreeze death.

[Thread]

Child Cases of COVID:

Hospitalizations a Real Concern

Kids were thought to be in a safe harbor.

The rate of infection among children is skyrocketing (https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/08/13/children-hospitalizations-covid-delta/),

the hospitalization rate is eclipsing peak levels (https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#new-hospital-admissions) recorded in January.

to fast-track its eventual approval of vaccines for those under age 12.

“In our view,” the AAP’s letter reads, “the rise of the Delta variant changes the risk-benefit analysis”

The AAP reported a staggering increase in cases of child COVID,

going from 12,000 the first week in July to 96,000 the first week in August.

The week ending July 29th marked the highest rate of infection (https://downloads.aap.org/AAP/PDF/AAP%20and%20CHA%20-%20Children%20and%20COVID-19%20State%20Data%20Report%207.29%20FINAL.pdf) per 100,000 children since the AAP began tracking the data in April of 2020.

(In terms of raw numbers, infections remain well below their winter peaks.)

“Everybody is a bit nervous about the possibility that the Delta variant could in fact be, in some way, more dangerous in kids,”

https://www.laprogressive.com/child-cases-of-covid

aka the chickens have come home to roost.

[Thread]

1429222295919337477

Make mother fucker Biden build all those field hospitals, lickysplit just like Cuomo made President Trump a year ago. Like 10 people showed up. 3 with STD's and the rest needing a place to sleep.
Make mother fucker Biden cast off that Hospital ship and wish 'em a bon voyage like you all made President Trump do a year ago. Then when it docked, like 3 people showed up, 2 of 'em were wino's. All they had were dirty ass cracks and mismatched shoes.

Mother fucker Biden has the dirty end of this stick and we ain't a lettin' that cocksucker turn loose. Now...

Let us proceed...

[Thread]

I don't wish them death though I really don't care what happens to that race baiting grifting retard wannabe reverend Jesse the dumbfuck Jackson.

& JJ taught Hussein everything he knows about race hustling, who, in turn taught the craft to mother fucker Biden. On & On.

[Thread]

https://twitter.com/RichLeighton/status/1429293385328652291?s=19

Who cares as long as Australia gave us that sight of "Sue"/Kozlowski bending over that pond.

It's goin' into the grave with me as well.

[boutons_deux]

States Can't Deny Schools Who Enforce Mask Mandates Federal Funds:

Education Secretary

Emboldened by support from the Biden administration,

a sixth school district in Florida on Friday defied Republican Governor Ron DeSantis (https://www.newsweek.com/topic/ron-desantis)' ban on mask mandates.

Cardona has vowed that the federal government would "assist any districts facing repercussions"

after Florida's Board of Educators threatened to withhold state funding for school districts that refused to reverse their mask requirements.

Schools "do not have to get the green light from the governor" to use these federal funds

and "I call these superintendents personally to let them know that," Cardona said

https://www.newsweek.com/states-cant-deny-schools-who-enforce-mask-mandates-federal-funds-education-secretary-1621884

Ditzy Devos would have figured out a way to punish the schools more severely.

[boutons_deux]

Boston Globe email

Forecasters offer grim fall outlook on COVID-19, with deaths predicted to rise in Mass.

Another season lost to pandemic may lie ahead.


Two separate disease forecasting teams are predicting that

COVID-19 deaths will rise in Massachusetts and across the country for weeks to come,

as the grim flood of new infections and steady rise in hospitalizations that began around July 4 continues.


Meanwhile, a third forecasting team has acknowledged that

the ongoing surge is even stronger than they predicted only a few weeks ago

based on early July data because they had underestimated the contagiousness of the Delta strain of the virus.

[Blake]

I predicted we would have another surge and most of the deaths would be antivaxxers.

I predicted a stay at home order coming.

I'm not sure we ever see a stay at home order ever again here in Texas

[hater]

https://twitter.com/consent_factory/status/1429040235980197888?s=19

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[boutons_deux]

Confederate/red state pandemic public health guidance is working so well, why would they change?

They will never climb down and admit they killed 1000s of their supporters, including kids

[Adam Lambert]

No search function and I don't care to look back, but LOL at all the morons here who hoped Lollapalooza would be a super spreader killing vaccinated libs.

1428035209690234890

This is the way.

[boutons_deux]

https://mediaproxy.salon.com/width/1200/https://media.salon.com/2021/08/anti-vaccine-anti-mask-protester-sign-jesus-has-me-0817211.jpg

[boutons_deux]

No search function and I don't care to look back, but LOL at all the morons here who hoped Lollapalooza would be a super spreader killing vaccinated libs.

1428035209690234890

This is the way.

will Sturgis be the same?

"Last year’s rally was linked to (https://www.dakotanewsnow.com/2021/04/30/cdc-2020-sturgis-motorcycle-rally-resulted-in-widespread-transmission-of-covid-19/) 649 cases in 29 states. "

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2047006

[Ef-man]

https://mediaproxy.salon.com/width/1200/https://media.salon.com/2021/08/anti-vaccine-anti-mask-protester-sign-jesus-has-me-0817211.jpg

My bartender Jesus said, "Fuck that bitch, I ain't helping her ass when she gets sick! Cheap ass tipper."

[Trill Clinton]

https://mediaproxy.salon.com/width/1200/https://media.salon.com/2021/08/anti-vaccine-anti-mask-protester-sign-jesus-has-me-0817211.jpg

Jesus will be having her over for dinner in heaven soon.

[Adam Lambert]

I'm not sure we ever see a stay at home order ever again here in Texas

We probably don't need one. But we do need vaccine mandates for certain events and venues, and businesses should be free to set their own requirements without threat from big government Texas Republicans.

[Trill Clinton]

ducks your daddy said to take the vaccine right now!

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[pgardn]

I'm not sure we ever see a stay at home order ever again here in Texas

I know its damn hot in Texas and add humidity to that in SA.
But getting outside, going to the bike trails, hiking, walking, is an absolutely essential.
I am concerned with people who are healthy and vibrant sitting down on all day because... why?

Personally I run, swim, bike, kayak, fish... OUTSIDE. No colds, nothing since this stuff all started. I love seeing families on the bike trails and hiking together. Get your water frozen, take some snacks, sunblock, get outside and exercise. Morning and evenings if thats all you can get in. Supposedly they have some giant pickle ball complex for people to old to play tennis and not rich enough to play golf. Get out!

[pgardn]

ducks (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=13) your daddy said to take the vaccine right now!

1429255690682572805

Holy shit he actually said one of the most important things.
"You have to get your kids back to school". So in SA that means, put a fkn mask on your kids and get your kids to school and your ass to work.

[Ef-man]

Ain’t this fucked up.

Parents get coached on how to escape mask and vaccine rules.

ALSEA, Ore. (AP) — An Oregon school superintendent is telling parents they can get their children out of wearing masks by citing federal disability law. A pastor at a California megachurch is offering religious exemptions for anyone morally conflicted over vaccine requirements.

And Louisiana’s attorney general has posted sample letters on his office’s Facebook page for those seeking to get around the governor’s mask rules.

Across the U.S., religious figures, doctors, public officials and other community leaders are trying to help people circumvent COVID-19 precautions.

While proponents of these workarounds say they are looking out for children’s health and parents’ rights, others say such stratagems are dishonest and irresponsible and could undermine efforts to beat back the highly contagious delta variant.

https://wtop.com/coronavirus/2021/08/parents-get-coached-on-how-to-escape-mask-and-vaccine-rules/

[Winehole23]

teach em to abuse the law and commit disability fraud.

[ElNono]

Hopefully they're also having their victims sign releases of liability in case of death. Otherwise that's going to sort itself out pretty quickly, tbh.

[hater]

teach em to abuse the law and commit disability fraud.

"The law" :lmao

[hater]

https://twitter.com/supergranlinz/status/1429789392751796230?s=19

[boutons_deux]

Anti-vaxxer causes mass-infection in special needs kindergarten

An anti-vaxxer got infected with COVID-19 and

sent her twins to their special needs kindergarten,

sparking a mass-infection.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/anti-vaxxer-causes-mass-infection-in-special-needs-kindergarten-677383

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/supergranlinz/status/1429789392751796230?s=19:lol did they check to see if the company hadn't moved out twenty years ago this time?

:lmao antivaxtards
:lmao your people

[hater]

:tu

https://twitter.com/Rogers_2_that/status/1429820330328084488?s=19


Great news

[hater]

Interesting. Only fully approved for 16 year and older

[spurraider21]

:tu

https://twitter.com/Rogers_2_that/status/1429820330328084488?s=19


Great news
Uncle Joe coming through :tu

[TSA]

Holy shit he actually said one of the most important things.
"You have to get your kids back to school". So in SA that means, put a fkn mask on your kids and get your kids to school and your ass to work.

"At the end of May, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention published a notable, yet mostly ignored, large-scale study of COVID transmission in American schools. (https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7021e1.htm?) A few major news outlets covered its release by briefly reiterating the study’s summary: that masking then-unvaccinated teachers and improving ventilation with more fresh air were associated with a lower incidence of the virus in schools. Those are common-sense measures, and the fact that they seem to work is reassuring but not surprising. Other findings of equal importance in the study, however, were absent from the summary and not widely reported. These findings cast doubt on the impact of many of the most common mitigation measures in American schools. Distancing, hybrid models, classroom barriers, HEPA filters, and, most notably, requiring student masking were each found to not have a statistically significant benefit. In other words, these measures could not be said to be effective."

"The study published by the CDC was both ambitious and groundbreaking. It covered more than 90,000 elementary-school students in 169 Georgia schools from November 16 to December 11 and was, according to the CDC, the first of its kind to compare COVID-19 incidence in schools with certain mitigation measures in place to other schools without those measures. Scientists I spoke with believe that the decision not to include the null effects of a student masking requirement (and distancing, hybrid models, etc.) in the summary amounted to “file drawering” these findings, a term researchers use for the practice of burying studies that don’t produce statistically significant results. “That a masking requirement of students failed to show independent benefit is a finding of consequence and great interest,” says Vinay Prasad, an associate professor in University of California, San Francisco’s Department of Epidemiology and Biostatistics. “It should have been included in the summary.” “The summary gives the impression that only masking of staff was studied,” says Tracy Hoeg, an epidemiologist and the senior author of a separate CDC study on COVID-19 transmission in schools, “when in reality there was this additional important detection about a student-masking requirement not having a statistical impact.”

"“A year ago, I said, ‘Masks are not the end of the world; why not just wear a mask?’” Elissa Schechter-Perkins, the director of Emergency Medicine Infectious Disease Management at Boston Medical Center, told me. “But the world has changed, there are real downsides to masking children for this long, with no known end date, and without any clear upside.” She continued, “I’m not aware of any studies that show conclusively that kids wearing masks in schools has any effect on their own morbidity or mortality or on the hospitalization or death rate in the community around them.”

Schechter-Perkins is just one of a number of top experts calling for this type of discussion — and raising questions about the CDC’s recent recommendations and what has become accepted conventional knowledge. “We lack credible evidence for benefits of masking kids aged 2 to 5, despite what the American Academy of Pediatrics says,” Jeffrey Flier, former dean of Harvard Medical School, wrote recently. While there are models, and simulations on mannequins with masks, “mechanistic studies are incapable of anticipating and tallying the effects that emerge when real people are asked to do real things in the real world,” Vinay Prasad of UCSF wrote in a critique of the CDC’s child masking recommendation. “The CDC cannot ‘follow the science’ because there is no relevant science.”

This question of “relevant science” is what makes the Georgia study worth careful consideration. Over and over, studies and reports on children in schools with low transmission rates claim in their summaries that masking students helped keep transmission down. But looking at the underlying data in these studies, masks were always required or widely worn, and implemented in concert with a variety of other interventions, such as increased ventilation. Without a comparison group that didn’t require student masking, it’s difficult or impossible to isolate the effect of masks. (This is the error made by Duke University researchers who wrote a report about North Carolina schools, later summarized in a New York Times opinion piece.) I reviewed 17 different studies cited by the CDC in its K-12 guidance as evidence that masks on students are effective, and not one study looked at student mask use in isolation from other mitigation measures, or against a control. Some even demonstrated that no student masking correlated with low transmission.In a number of the studies cited by the agency there was universal masking combined with other measures, such as ventilation, so, as noted, there was no way to know whether a mask mandate contributed to mitigating case rates or not. One study cited was of child-care centers with limited secondary transmission, yet children were not required to wear masks. Another was of a hair salon. One study, in Switzerland, was of schools with low transmission rates where young children were not required to wear masks. Finally, one study was of an Israeli school outbreak where the students weren’t wearing masks. Except students all over that country were exempt from masks at the same time, yet this was the only noted outbreak. If anything, that could seem to suggest a lack of benefit of masking students. Moreover, the windows were closed and it was only grades 7-12.

Children are less likely to have severe disease from SARS-CoV-2, and when infected less likely to be symptomatic, which correlates with lower contagiousness. Those facts alone may account for part of the reason why the Georgia study found no clear benefit for a masking requirement for kids in schools. Though the CDC says that layered mitigation in schools is effective, without studying each of the layers individually, it cannot know which of those measures work, and to what degree, and which don’t. For example, several experts told me, it’s entirely possible that open windows or fresh-air ventilation accounts for nearly all the mitigation benefit in a classroom and other “layered” interventions may contribute only a marginal benefit or none at all."

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/08/the-science-of-masking-kids-at-school-remains-uncertain.html

[Trainwreck2100]

Interesting. Only fully approved for 16 year and older

its to force them employee mandates, and the also data on 12-16 is still too recent

[hater]

its to force them employee mandates, and the also data on 12-16 is still too recent

True. I believe FDA asked pfizer for 6 months of safety data. Which means 12-16 should be fully approved by December

This means 0-12 full approval will probably wont happen till at least next summer. And for that FDA should ask for 12 months safety which means maybe 1 more year or more :tu

[koriwhat]

Great news

Fuck our dumb government! Suck a dick Biden and jam that syringe up your ass!

[hater]

:lmao

https://twitter.com/JonathonSnyder/status/1429634024667029510?s=19

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[Winehole23]

Pfizer vaccine gets FDA approval

https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2021/08/23/us-regulators-give-full-approval-to-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine/?

[ChumpDumper]

:tu

https://twitter.com/Rogers_2_that/status/1429820330328084488?s=19


Great newsCOVID vaccine mandates good now?

Yes or no.

[hater]

COVID vaccine mandates good now?

Yes or no.

Non experimental vax mandates are not too good for a malady.that causes harm to only 5% of the population.

But getting it fully approved is an improvement :tu

[ChumpDumper]

Non experimental vax mandates are not too good for a malady.that causes harm to only 5% of the population.

But getting it fully approved is an improvement :tu
https://c.tenor.com/BzdybKbJj7gAAAAd/moving-goalpost.gif


mandates are coming, and goalposts will be moving :lol
SR21 called it.:tu

[hater]

:lmao

https://twitter.com/Michael37776438/status/1429871450937249796?s=19

[Adam Lambert]

:lmao

https://twitter.com/Michael37776438/status/1429871450937249796?s=19

0 followers, 0 following, 0 likes on the tweet...

I think we found hater's Twitter handle.

(Probably one of many)

[boutons_deux]

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[Adam Lambert]

Did you just delete your tweet, hater?

lol

Surely you weren't actually using your real name.

[hater]

Did you just delete your tweet, hater?

lol

Surely you weren't actually using your real name.

Thats me brah. Feel free to follow me.:lol

[ChumpDumper]

How can we follow you if you deleted your account?

[spurraider21]

damn :lol

what did the tweet say?

[Adam Lambert]

Thats me brah. Feel free to follow me.:lol

I mean I might follow one you actually use but not sure the point of following @ Michael3###### since there's currently no tweets on the account since May 2019.

How many accounts do you have?

[Winehole23]

damn :lol
what did the tweet say?attempted social media sockpuppet, stopped in its tracks by a normally alert online poster.

damn.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

lmfao some guy got admitted to the hospital and begged the dr for Ivermectin and they said no and just let him die without it

good stuff good stuff

[Adam Lambert]

damn :lol

what did the tweet say?

Some stupid bullshit about Biden's asking corporations to set vax requirements while there are currently no vax requirements at the White House, CDC, FDA, Pfiser, Moderna, etc.

[spurraider21]

Some stupid bullshit about Biden's asking corporations to set vax requirements, but there are currently no vax requirements at the White House, CDC, FDA, Pfiser, Moderna, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1Mh5QHO0Hs

[hater]

I mean I might follow one you actually use but not sure the point of following @ Michael3###### since there's currently no tweets on the account since May 2019.

How many accounts do you have?

One. At it was created by a chinese hacker using my email tbqh :lol

Says its banned so can only read tweets. Good enough for me as I wouldnt post shit. But Id like to know what my username means its in chinese characters :lol

[Winehole23]

he wuz hacked

lol hater

[boutons_deux]

F.D.A. Withdraws Approval from

“Whatever Drug Rand Paul Is On”

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/fda-withdraws-approval-from-whatever-drug-rand-paul-is-on

[hater]

Damn its actually japanese. Means something about citrus fruit :lmao

[Thread]

Some stupid bullshit about Biden's asking corporations to set vax requirements, but there are currently no vax requirements at the White House, CDC, FDA, Pfiser, Moderna, etc.

See, Adam has an ounce of decency.

Adam

[hater]

How can we follow you if you deleted your account?

Sorry to disapoint nig. Be faster next time :lmao

[hater]

lmfao some guy got admitted to the hospital and begged the dr for Ivermectin and they said no and just let him die without it

good stuff good stuff

:lmao was it Jessee Jackson by anynchance :lol

[boutons_deux]

SAISD order that employees get COVID-19 vaccine gets green light with Pfizer FDA approval

https://www.expressnews.com/news/education/article/SAISD-order-that-employees-get-COVID-19-vaccine-16406022.phprt

[ChumpDumper]

Sorry to disapoint nig. Be faster next time :lmaoSure thing, Mikey.

[hater]

Sure thing, Mikey.

NP, Nancy

[Winehole23]

sorry, boo.

too much goo.

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[Winehole23]

Personal update, apparent false positives.

3 days later PCR tests were negative. We also found out nobody else came up positive, hopefully.

Wife still has a cold, it may be an allergy. I am symptom free so far.

[hater]

sorry, boo.

too much goo.

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:lmao I dont think this poor sap knows the definition of ignore :lmao

[boutons_deux]

Group of South Florida doctors stage walkout in protest of unvaccinated COVID patients

A group of around 75 South Florida doctors staged a walkout on Monday

to protest the number of unvaccinated COVID-19 patients flooding their hospital in Palm Beach Gardens, Florida

https://theweek.com/coronavirus/1004043/group-of-south-florida-doctors-stage-walkout-in-protest-of-unvaccinated-covid

[koriwhat]

:lmao I dont think this poor sap knows the definition of ignore :lmao

He's a fucking retard who can talk shit but won't back any of his bullshit up while pretending to be some sort of intellectual here who shies away from a conversation/debate. Dude is a fucking pussy!

[hater]

Group of South Florida doctors stage walkout in protest of unvaccinated COVID patients

A group of around 75 South Florida doctors staged a walkout on Monday

to protest the number of unvaccinated COVID-19 patients flooding their hospital in Palm Beach Gardens, Florida

https://theweek.com/coronavirus/1004043/group-of-south-florida-doctors-stage-walkout-in-protest-of-unvaccinated-covid





:lmao

They areally are not doctors if they did that.

Its called the Hipocratic Oath

[SnakeBoy]

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[SnakeBoy]

Personal update, apparent false positives.

3 days later PCR tests were negative. We also found out nobody else came up positive, hopefully.

Wife still has a cold, it may be an allergy. I am symptom free so far.

What makes you think they were false positives?

[ChumpDumper]

1429855892120346632Were any other restrictions lifted in Israel at any time?

Or is this just another shitpost?

[Winehole23]

What makes you think they were false positives?the PCR test was close in time, so was hers. as it turns out, separately sourced with the same result.

i will admit, my sense of certainty lies near an all time low.

[SnakeBoy]

the PCR test was close in time, so was hers. as it turns out, separately sourced with the same result.

i will admit, my sense of certainty lies near an all time low.

Did they give you a cycle time?

[hater]

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My sis just told me my nephews had 1st day of school today and their masks are completely destroyed with sweat, dirt, etc. They had to go through a couple masks and complained of being hot and hard to breathe.

Sucks tbqh. Not to mention the middle schooler said the hallways and stairs were.super crowded.and.kids were bumping into each other all day

Its gonna be interesting what happens a few weeks from now in that school district :lol

[SnakeBoy]

My sis just told me my nephews had 1st day of school today and their masks are completely destroyed with sweat, dirt, etc. They had to go through a couple masks and complained of being hot and hard to breathe.

Sucks tbqh. Not to mention the middle schooler said the hallways and stairs were.super crowded.and.kids were bumping into each other all day

Its gonna be interesting what happens a few weeks from now in that school district :lol

They'll probably be shut down in a few weeks...or less

[boutons_deux]

sorry, boo.

too much goo.

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you're not sorry. think I give a shit? G F Y

[koriwhat]

you're not sorry. think I give a shit? G F Y

Lol You should take your own advice loon.

[Adam Lambert]

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"Gun bans don't work, therefore you can still be shot by someone who doesn't have a gun"

[ElNono]

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There's actually a huge difference between this wave and prior ones in Israel. They had lockdowns in previous ones, but since they got early vaccination, they stopped those.

Problem is early vaccination means Delta hit them in the nuts when protection from the second shot was waning. No lockdowns means transmission via children, who are largely unvaccinated.

Also a big difference in enforcement of the mask mandate, which used to be penalized with a fine, and that's no longer the case (mostly because of vaccination becoming available).

Masks undoubtedly work, but as Fauci correctly pointed out, vaccines will lower people's guard, tbh.

[boutons_deux]

Thanks To Anti-Mask Governor Bill Lee 1/3rd of New Tennessee COVID Cases Are Kids

https://www.politicususa.com/2021/08/23/thanks-to-anti-mask-governor-bill-lee-1-3rd-of-new-tennessee-covid-cases-are-kids.html

Red States! What's not to ridicule?

[DarrinS]

They'll probably be shut down in a few weeks...or less

Hopefully my son brings home some delta. Free booster

[boutons_deux]

Dallas Morning News email

"12,000 absent students:

Roughly 12,000 students that Dallas ISD officials expected to be in class last week did not show up (https://link.dallasnews.com/lt.php?i=18670A19280A104A847267), district leaders estimate."

Will Dan Patrick attack the parents for their kids' truancy?

[DarrinS]

We're about to find out if masks work in schools, in the Delta era.

[pgardn]

We're about to find out if masks work in schools, in the Delta era.

Not necessarily.
Some districts are going to have a real problem controlling the proper use and overcrowded classrooms. We already know the basic surgical mask becomes horribly ineffective when in the same room with large crowds for long periods of time. We will probably find out more about overcrowding is public schools. I dont know what to say about this. Its very disheartening.
Other interesting data coming back is most American run airlines that stay in the US are most likely NOT having a problem because of masking and air which is hopeful data. But it might be linked to better masks being worn and air filtration.

[pgardn]

Hopefully my son brings home some delta. Free booster

Yeah take him to visit grandad and maybe visit some nursing homes. LIVE VIRUS Boosters for all!

[DarrinS]

Yeah take him to visit grandad and maybe visit some nursing homes. LIVE VIRUS Boosters for all!

All elderly are vaccinated, too.

[hater]

No universal mask mandates? We will have close to 750k bodybags :wow

Biden will have killed as many americans as Dump :wow

Sadly I called it :(

https://twitter.com/crazyjo43424351/status/1430015147972644864?s=19

[Adam Lambert]

No universal mask mandates? We will have close to 750k bodybags :wow

Biden will have killed as many americans as Dump :wow

Sadly I called it :(

https://twitter.com/crazyjo43424351/status/1430015147972644864?s=19

Is this you too?

[Winehole23]

"the Bobs"

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[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9aRJmzXoAEVjuS?format=jpg&name=large

[Winehole23]

NZ seeks elimination with broad public approval

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[Thread]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9aRJmzXoAEVjuS?format=jpg&name=large

Mother fucker Biden owns every last one, Winester.

[hater]

NZ seeks elimination with broad public approval

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Not looking good. Looks like Delta might wreck them like Australia who is in permanent lockdown till who knows when

[hater]

Game over

https://twitter.com/haaretzcom/status/1427953276616683520?s=19

https://twitter.com/Jerusalem_Post/status/1429507740628619267?s=19

[hater]

God bless the Cuban Empire :tu

https://twitter.com/darrion_nguyen/status/1430123143121702915?s=19

[hater]

:lmao Falsuchi

https://twitter.com/htTweets/status/1430142936767864832?s=19

[hater]

https://twitter.com/IBTimes/status/1430015392961925122?s=19

[boutons_deux]

except for those paranoid, conspiratorial motherfuckers suckered into extreme anti-govt hate after decades of oligarchy "govt-is-the-problem" propaganda,

FDA approval means their could be huge increase in vaccinations (and Pfizer $10Bs profits)

https://ci6.googleusercontent.com/proxy/IZHt2lBuuY6EUUTPWYEofvcLSG7CaHWC2vghabKoixVOLe3IQz 7xnHukoCkmmkhgIVu2pNC5XvrVxoLoMbfHyRsrPpWIU7Vnasuv qQ8sWBVyXcgqb2w3Ggx5xrnUwcoRE3Yvj4xPp3lhQfiGVp1d_K SB3-j2S7IugnlkJvLrAKaWHhbLDeybSy15AhNadr6E8HGpvNWj=s0-d-e1-ft#https://static01.nyt.com/images/2021/08/24/multimedia/24-MORNING-sub2-VACCINE-CHART/24-MORNING-sub2-VACCINE-CHART-articleLarge.png

[Winehole23]

NDMS staff are eligible for benefits typically associated with military reservists — in essence, when the federal government comes calling, Ingle is entitled to leave her job at CHI Memorial Hospital in Chattanooga and deploy to wherever she’s needed without fear of professional consequences. She and her NDMS colleagues are paid for their work, though Ingle’s hourly rate is lower than her hospital jobs, she said, but the 84-hour weeks ensure she doesn’t take a financial hit.https://www.statnews.com/2021/08/18/health-workers-overwhelmed-covid-deaths-among-unvaccinated/

[Winehole23]

Not looking good. Looks like Delta might wreck them like Australia who is in permanent lockdown till who knows whenwhat are you talking about?

[DMC]

Not necessarily.
Some districts are going to have a real problem controlling the proper use and overcrowded classrooms. We already know the basic surgical mask becomes horribly ineffective when in the same room with large crowds for long periods of time. We will probably find out more about overcrowding is public schools. I dont know what to say about this. Its very disheartening.
Other interesting data coming back is most American run airlines that stay in the US are most likely NOT having a problem because of masking and air which is hopeful data. But it might be linked to better masks being worn and air filtration.

Not seated face to face
Not handing out drinks (no touching the same trays, bags and utensils)
Wiping down seats, trays and air nozzles between flights
boarding practices

There are a lot of things the airlines do that general businesses do not, and certainly leaving people to their own decisions creates many variables.

[pgardn]

Not seated face to face
Not handing out drinks (no touching the same trays, bags and utensils)
Wiping down seats, trays and air nozzles between flights
boarding practices

There are a lot of things the airlines do that general businesses do not, and certainly leaving people to their own decisions creates many variables.

Agree. Getting rid of eating that requires a long time with the mask off. It looks like surfaces are less of a problem than we initially thought but its still a good practice even without covid.

The kids should be eating outside. But the classrooms and hallways of public schools are hard to fix. We decided education in the early stages can be overcrowded and made cheaper this way so it was already a set up. Luckily kids this age will not die at the rate they do with a bad flu year. Right now anyway. But we do not need more people stressing the medical system. Especially in SA right now. I think this is where properly run private schools and the smaller magnet schools will be at an advantage. If they have a good set of rules.

This really is important imo. We have to get the new and growing family back to normal somehow. This is a base part of allowing our economics to function properly.

[Winehole23]

seconded on al fresco dining, would seem a no-brainer.

[hater]

:lmao Israel just throwing shit at the wall at this point

https://twitter.com/TimesofIsrael/status/1430160979556327426?s=19

[RandomGuy]

:lmao Israel just throwing shit at the wall at this point

https://twitter.com/TimesofIsrael/status/1430160979556327426?s=19

Not really.

It's not like booster shots are some untried horse hormone therapy.

[Winehole23]

:lmao Israel just throwing shit at the wall at this point

https://twitter.com/TimesofIsrael/status/1430160979556327426?s=19no, they studied it and decided to give older folks a boost.


spaz

[hater]

no, they studied it and decided to give older folks a boost.


spaz

"Studied"

They dont know for sure how efficient a booster is. They are trying shit at this point.

Its like doc5ors w a dying patient and just decide to increase the dosage of this or that. Throwing shit and hoping it sticks.

There is no guarantee these boosters will do anything but delay the inevitable

[SnakeBoy]

"Studied"

They dont know for sure how efficient a booster is. They are trying shit at this point.


Israel is pfizer's playground. Pfizer asked FDA to let them sell boosters and got shot down because there was no reason. Then magically an Israel study showed selling boosters was a really good thing.

[ChumpDumper]

"Studied"

They dont know for sure how efficient a booster is. They are trying shit at this point.

Its like doc5ors w a dying patient and just decide to increase the dosage of this or that. Throwing shit and hoping it sticks.

There is no guarantee these boosters will do anything but delay the inevitable
You read this yet? Or do you need rando twitter to spoon feed you?

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/third-pfizer-dose-86-effective-over-60s-israeli-hmo-says-2021-08-18/

[ChumpDumper]

Israel is pfizer's playground. Pfizer asked FDA to let them sell boosters and got shot down because there was no reason. Then magically an Israel study showed selling boosters was a really good thing.So you think the Israelis are lying?

Yes or no.

[hater]

You read this yet? Or do you need rando twitter to spoon feed you?

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/third-pfizer-dose-86-effective-over-60s-israeli-hmo-says-2021-08-18/

For how long idiot? Will it protect vs next variant?

As I said. Throwing shit hoping something sticks.

[ChumpDumper]

F:cryr h:cryw l:cryng idi:cryt? Will it pr:crytect vs next variant?

As I said. Thr:crywing shit h:cryping s:crymething sticks.

:lol meltdown

[Thread]

no, they studied it and decided to give older folks a boost.


spaz

We're giving everybody a boost come 9/20. All 350 million of us, + the wet ones.

[Thread]

For how long idiot? Will it protect vs next variant?

As I said. Throwing shit hoping something sticks.

...that's where it was always headed.

[SnakeBoy]

So you think the Israelis are lying?

Yes or no.

No, their data shows the vaccine is working well at preventing and reducing disease. Pfizer is saying look we can jack circulating antibodies even higher with a 3rd dose and get a temporary reduction in infection rates. Maybe that's fine or maybe we'll see an increase in autoimmune disorders. We'll have to wait and see what happens.

[hater]

:lol meltdown

Chumpfoldistan

[ChumpDumper]

No, their data shows the vaccine is working well at preventing and reducing disease. Pfizer is saying look we can jack circulating antibodies even higher with a 3rd dose and get a temporary reduction in infection rates. Maybe that's fine or maybe we'll see an increase in autoimmune disorders. We'll have to wait and see what happens.What is your basis for this "maybe disorder" talk?

[SnakeBoy]

Will it protect vs next variant?


Well the non wealthy world ain't getting these doses so the next variant is a sure bet at this point.

[ChumpDumper]

...that's where it was always headed.You're demanding I know what future variants look like.

What do you suggest they do? No studies because they might make you and rando twitter look stupid?:lol

Do you know how stupid you look right now?



Hint: very stupid.

[hater]

You're demanding I know what future variants look like.

Do you know how stupid you look right now?

Hint: very stupid.

:lol meltdown

[ChumpDumper]

:lol meltdownhater f:lollds

[SnakeBoy]

What is your basis for this "maybe disorder" talk?

Vaccine induced AID's is a a real thing, always has been. Even documented with these vaccines. It's something antivaxxers have always exploited to spread their bullshit even though usually the risk is so low that benefit outweighs risk.

Apparently we are going to fly blind and give a 3rd unnecessary dose to the general population starting on the 20th. Maybe jacking circulating antibodies even higher because moar will be fine, we'll find out. I don't think it's a high risk but if they fuck this up good luck with vaccine acceptance.

[ChumpDumper]

Vaccine induced AID's is a a real thing, always has been. Even documented with these vaccines. It's something antivaxxers have always exploited to spread their bullshit even though usually the risk is so low that benefit outweighs risk.

Apparently we are going to fly blind and give a 3rd unnecessary dose to the general population starting on the 20th. Maybe jacking circulating antibodies even higher because moar will be fine, we'll find out. I don't think it's a high risk but if they fuck this up good luck with vaccine acceptance.So you just adopted an antivaxx talking point for no real reason.:tu

[ChumpDumper]

lol this whole thread:

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[SnakeBoy]

So you just adopted an antivaxx talking point for no real reason.:tu

That's a weird response to the truth

[ChumpDumper]

That's a weird response to the truthIt's not a real concern of yours.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

The sad part of where we are at right now is how Q's are rejoicing at potential vaccine and mask worthlessness. As if that doesn't pose a giant long-term cluster fuck in every scenario outcome if this is true

That's why I want to see as much red state maga suffering as possible before the next episode of this shit show.

[hater]

The sad part of where we are at right now is how Q's are rejoicing at potential vaccine and mask worthlessness. As if that doesn't pose a giant long-term cluster fuck in every scenario outcome if this is true

That's why I want to see as much red state maga suffering as possible before the next episode of this shit show.

Sadly covid cant tell democrap from repug tbqh

[TSA]

Well the non wealthy world ain't getting these doses so the next variant is a sure bet at this point.

https://mobile.twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1430203485576904708

[Adam Lambert]

Sadly covid cant tell democrap from repug tbqh

It can make a pretty educated guess about it though

[Winehole23]

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/covid-deaths-natl-16.png

[Thread]

The sad part of where we are at right now is how Q's are rejoicing at potential vaccine and mask worthlessness. As if that doesn't pose a giant long-term cluster fuck in every scenario outcome if this is true

That's why I want to see as much red state maga suffering as possible before the next episode of this shit show.

Biden owns 'em all, LB.

You was rejoicing in a mirror image when President Trump was in there. And you had nary qualms about it. You've nary room.

[Blake]

lol this whole thread:

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Jesus Christ

[Frenchfred]

you got to love how Florida is pretty much not reporting any death anymore. I guess the truth is too hard for their stupid politicians

[Thread]

you got to love how Florida is pretty much not reporting any death anymore. I guess the truth is too hard for their stupid politicians

I called it a fortnight ago, Nazi hunter. Me. I was first. Dale. Ya damn fart catcher, you.

[boutons_deux]

you got to love how Florida is pretty much not reporting any death anymore. I guess the truth is too hard for their stupid politicians

FL and other Confederate/red states LIED last year that actual covid deaths, seen as hugely execessive deaths, were reported as pneumonia or as "no cause" in FL on the death certs to the Feds.