Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

[Winehole23]

Didn't you say it only worked with zinc?

Pick a lane, Karrin.oh but det magic bullet, tho

[tholdren]

covid isn't dangerous

[SnakeBoy]

https://rt.live/

[boutons_deux]

WHO reports highest one-day increase in global coronavirus cases since pandemic began
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/09/14/coronavirus-covid-live-updates-us

[boutons_deux]

That free COVID-19 testing isn't free to many,

and Trump isn't going to fix that

Back in April, the Trump administration announced (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/11/trump-administration-requires-insurers-to-provide-free-antibody-tests-180009) it would require private health insurers to provide free antibody tests for coronavirus.

"It is critical that Americans have peace of mind knowing that cost won't be a barrier to testing during this national public health emergency

People are getting surprise bills (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/09/upshot/coronavirus-surprise-test-fees.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage) for the coronavirus tests

"about 2.4 percent of coronavirus tests billed to insurers leave the patient responsible for some portion of payment, according to the health data firm Castlight."

hundreds of thousands of people are not getting the free testing promised by the administration.

Congress has made it really clear that there shouldn’t be cost sharing for Covid-19 testing,”

The charges in some cases are violating the law,

but those violations only count as far as there is an effort on the part of the government to enforce the law.

it's all about how the doctor or clinic or hospital providing the test coded it.

It's all the fault of our complicated medical billing process and,

if there's a number wrong, what are they to do? They go after the patient.

with her test, which was billed as two tests, diagnostic and for antibodies:

"she logged into her health insurance portal and saw four claims associated with her tests:

one for each test,
one for the doctor visit, and
one for other tests she didn’t realize were being ordered."

"Patients at a drive-through coronavirus testing site in Texas, for example, were

unknowingly tested for sexually transmitted diseases."

The insurance companies were, of course, billed for those tests and in many cases would pass the cost on to patients.

Regulations from the administration could remedy that. If the administration cared.

Trump and his team clearly don't care.

They've moved on from the pandemic and

it is immaterial to them whether people come out of this alive and financially secure.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/9/13/1976770/-That-free-COVID-19-testing-isn-t-free-to-many-and-Trump-isn-t-going-to-fix-that?detail=emaildkre

[tholdren]

That free COVID-19 testing isn't free to many,

and Trump isn't going to fix that

Back in April, the Trump administration announced (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/11/trump-administration-requires-insurers-to-provide-free-antibody-tests-180009) it would require private health insurers to provide free antibody tests for coronavirus.

"It is critical that Americans have peace of mind knowing that cost won't be a barrier to testing during this national public health emergency

People are getting surprise bills (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/09/upshot/coronavirus-surprise-test-fees.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage) for the coronavirus tests

"about 2.4 percent of coronavirus tests billed to insurers leave the patient responsible for some portion of payment, according to the health data firm Castlight."

hundreds of thousands of people are not getting the free testing promised by the administration.

Congress has made it really clear that there shouldn’t be cost sharing for Covid-19 testing,”

The charges in some cases are violating the law,

but those violations only count as far as there is an effort on the part of the government to enforce the law.

it's all about how the doctor or clinic or hospital providing the test coded it.

It's all the fault of our complicated medical billing process and,

if there's a number wrong, what are they to do? They go after the patient.

with her test, which was billed as two tests, diagnostic and for antibodies:

"she logged into her health insurance portal and saw four claims associated with her tests:

one for each test,
one for the doctor visit, and
one for other tests she didn’t realize were being ordered."

"Patients at a drive-through coronavirus testing site in Texas, for example, were

unknowingly tested for sexually transmitted diseases."

The insurance companies were, of course, billed for those tests and in many cases would pass the cost on to patients.

Regulations from the administration could remedy that. If the administration cared.

Trump and his team clearly don't care.

They've moved on from the pandemic and

it is immaterial to them whether people come out of this alive and financially secure.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/9/13/1976770/-That-free-COVID-19-testing-isn-t-free-to-many-and-Trump-isn-t-going-to-fix-that?detail=emaildkre

it shouldn't be free, unless you are sick. The end

[boutons_deux]

Karen Holloween mask

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=c5ffe9fe07&attid=0.1&permmsgid=msg-a:r-7714203421911753054&th=174933d23ce7a82f&view=fimg&sz=s0-l75-ft&attbid=ANGjdJ8sThPzJf9KEZchAtR2UQk5sdKBSZ766z8frKG _oP9HshFhGMfNJZjQNoowSWJp4CYcAQYYyShE2m4F2vXiYIAIc oXmEIdUv2FvaRWw1GwXHdTO_R41P7YNLz8&disp=emb&realattid=ii_kf4cmevi0

[boutons_deux]

Anti-Maskers Forced to Dig Graves for Covid-19 Victims in Indonesia

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,pg_1,q_80,w_1600/tmk68uzzhwowgmno0fkv.jpg

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAAAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAE AAAICTAEAOw==
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAAAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAE AAAICTAEAOw==https://gizmodo.com/anti-maskers-forced-to-dig-graves-for-covid-19-victims-1845046526?utm_source=gizmodo_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2020-09-15

[RandomGuy]

So by age the effect diverges so that one affects the infected individual more than the other. Also, people are not being mass tested for influenza, so really we only have CFR for that since IFR is largely unknown, even then only the very symptomatic influenza cases are being considered. Does that sound right?

It's quite possible plenty die from the flu who are never recorded as such.

We have several studies that have homed in on IFR.

It is not "unkown" and is in the order that was postulated way back when this all began.

somewhere around .0050, with the range of studies putting it between .0025 and .0068 to what I have seen.

We can get CFR by simply using IFR to back into the data. fatalities/IFR = total cases, total cases/fatalities = CFR. simple math.

[RandomGuy]

cool thread about how some African countries are coping with COVID-19

1303892278541508608

They have a well developed contact tracing infrastructure because of hte other diseases they deal with.

This is not really puzzling to anyone who studies the shit, just to the idiot journalists breathlessly saying what "scientists" trying to say.

[RandomGuy]

https://rt.live/

Does that link explain the spike in all cause deaths?

Or are you still going with "they slipped on a banana peel"?

Do tell.

[hater]

What do they take for Malaria?

Not sure . But I know what they dont take. A shot of household cleaners.

[tholdren]

Does that link explain the spike in all cause deaths?

Or are you still going with "they slipped on a banana peel"?

Do tell.

Spike lolooolloololllolllolloklkkklkkokkkklkkk

[boutons_deux]

white privelege, again:

Black And Hispanic Kids Die From Coronavirus More Than White Kids Do, CDC says

Of 121 COVID-19 deaths among young people,

the CDC found

54 were Hispanic,

35 were Black and

17 were white.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/black-hispanic-kids-die-covid-19_n_5f617535c5b68d1b09c94bcf?ncid=newsltushpmgnew s

Hispanics still gonna vote for the Hispanic killer?

[hater]

:lmao Orangegutan

https://twitter.com/MFZOOM14/status/1306269983803138057?s=19

[BSfromTX]

Anti-Maskers Forced to Dig Graves for Covid-19 Victims in Indonesia

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,pg_1,q_80,w_1600/tmk68uzzhwowgmno0fkv.jpg

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAAAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAE AAAICTAEAOw==
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAAAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAE AAAICTAEAOw==https://gizmodo.com/anti-maskers-forced-to-dig-graves-for-covid-19-victims-1845046526?utm_source=gizmodo_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2020-09-15


Do you honestly believe this?

[DMC]

We have several studies that have homed in on IFR.

It is not "unkown" and is in the order that was postulated way back when this all began.

somewhere around .0050, with the range of studies putting it between .0025 and .0068 to what I have seen.

We can get CFR by simply using IFR to back into the data. fatalities/IFR = total cases, total cases/fatalities = CFR. simple math.

So subclinical and asymptomatic mean nothing? How the hell do you know who has the disease who is asymptomatic? You simply don't. It's a guess.

[DMC]

They have a well developed contact tracing infrastructure because of hte other diseases they deal with.

This is not really puzzling to anyone who studies the shit, just to the idiot journalists breathlessly saying what "scientists" trying to say.

ok Jethro.. poor mans Wild Cobra :lol

[boutons_deux]

Do you honestly believe this?

I report. You decide

[boutons_deux]

More Republicans look to join the House 'What coronavirus threat?' caucus (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/9/15/1977605/--This-is-not-9-11-and-other-ways-House-Republicans-have-downplayed-COVID-19)

Trump isn’t the only Republican downplaying the seriousness of the coronavirus pandemic (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/9/9/1976133/-Trump-admits-he-deliberately-played-down-the-threat-of-COVID-19-despite-knowing-that-it-was-deadly).

He’s joined in that disregard for human life by many Republican lawmakers—

and by many of the Republican candidates who hope to reclaim some ground in the House in 2020.

That’s both because this is Trump’s party and because

Republicans have long put their version of the economy (the economy of the rich and corporations)

above the health and lives of working people.

Republicans join Trump in owning the United States’ pandemic failures.

And they must not get the power to make things even worse.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1977605

[hater]

Looking like wave 2 will not be a joke

https://twitter.com/Gruddster/status/1306311180244447233?s=19

[Ef-man]

Spike lolooolloololllolllolloklkkklkkokkkklkkk

Foldren folds from lack of facts.

In case you did not know, lolols and bwahahajajas are not facts.

:lmao

[tholdren]

Looking like wave 2 will not be a joke

https://twitter.com/Gruddster/status/1306311180244447233?s=19

bwahahahajaajaauauaahuaauhahahaahzhzhzhzhzzzahha second wave lololooloolol

[boutons_deux]

People Under 30 Make Up More Than 30% Of All COVID-19 Cases In San Antonio

San Antonio Mayor Ron Nirenberg reported the most recent trend data for the area.

He said 21.6% of all cases are people between the ages of 20–29,

and 12% of all cases are pediatric (under the age of 18).

-- TPR.org email

[Dirks_Finale]

Looking like wave 2 will not be a joke

https://twitter.com/Gruddster/status/1306311180244447233?s=19

Spain has quitely been enduring a second wave for quite a while now. And it looks as though France's second wave is greater than the first.

[TSA]

COVID-19 emails from Nashville mayor's office show disturbing revelation

The coronavirus cases on lower Broadway may have been so low that the mayor’s office and the Metro Health Department decided to keep it secret.

Emails between the mayor’s senior advisor and the health department reveal only a partial picture. But what they reveal is disturbing.

The discussion involves the low number of coronavirus cases emerging from bars and restaurants and how to handle that.

And most disturbingly, how to keep it from the public.

On June 30th, contact tracing was given a small view of coronavirus clusters. Construction and nursing homes were found to be causing problems with more than a thousand cases traced to each category, but bars and restaurants reported just 22 cases.

Leslie Waller from the health department asks, “This isn’t going to be publicly released, right? Just info for Mayor’s Office?"

“Correct, not for public consumption,” writes senior advisor Benjamin Eagles.

A month later, the health department was asked point blank about the rumor there are only 80 cases traced to bars and restaurants.

Reporter Nate Rau asks, “The figure you gave of 'more than 80' does lead to a natural question: If there have been over 20,000 positive cases of COVID-19 in Davidson and only 80 or so are traced to restaurants and bars, doesn’t that mean restaurants and bars aren’t a very big problem?"

Health department official Brian Todd asked five health department officials, "Please advise how you recommend I respond. "

The name at the top of the response is clipped off but you may find the answer unacceptable.

“My two cents. We have certainly refused to give counts per bar because those numbers are low per site.

We could still release the total though, and then a response to the over 80 could be because that number is increasing all the time and we don’t want to say a specific number."

Neither the health department nor the mayor’s office would confirm the authenticity of the emails but councilmember Steve Glover had a Metro staff attorney inquire. Here’s the official answer:

“I was able to get verification from the Mayor’s Office and the Department of Health that these emails are real,” the staff attorney answered.

Glover says this is Metro Nashville orchestrating a cover up.

"They are fabricating information," Glover said. "They’ve blown there entire credibility Dennis. Its gone, I don’t trust a thing they say going forward ...nothing."

Glover says he has been contacted by an endless stream of downtown bartenders, waitresses and restaurant owners asking why would officials not release these numbers?

"We raised taxes 34 percent and put hundreds literally thousands of people out of work that are now worried about losing their homes, their apartments...and we did it on bogus data. That should be illegal," Glover said.

Again, FOX 17 News wasn't told by the mayor’s office this wasn’t true. We were told to file a freedom of information act request.

Which allows us now to ask the question, why are you keeping this from us? Why would you even want to? Its just the real numbers and what could possibly be an honorable motive?

https://fox17.com/news/local/covid-19-emails-from-nashville-mayors-office-show-disturbing-revelation

[boutons_deux]

COVID-19’s Other Unnecessary Death Toll

Our bungled national response exposed the fragility of our already broken health care system by keeping people with other fatal diseases from getting treatment

there were 8,300 more deaths from heart disease (https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/investigations/coronavirus-excess-deaths-heart/) in five states (New York, led by hard-hit New York City; Massachusetts; New Jersey; Michigan; and Illinois) between March and May,

about 27 percent higher than would be predicted from previous years.

New York City alone saw more than 4,700 excess deaths from heart disease.

As hospitals in New York City were overwhelmed with COVID-19, they were unable to care for anyone else.

This included people suffering from heart failure, complications of cancer or possibly undiagnosed cancer, and other conditions.

There were simply no hospital beds in the entire city.

This betrays one of the greatest dangers of our 21st-century American health care system:

the very low margins within hospitals.

Empty hospital beds don’t make money.

When medical care is monetized,

the effect is closure of low-income hospitals, such as Hahnemann Hospital in Philadelphia in 2019 (https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/the-closure-of-a-historic-hospital-is-an-ominous-warning-sign/), and

hundreds of low-income urban or rural hospitals across the country.

Even prior to COVID-19, many hospitals were running on razor-thin margins.

We would get nearly daily e-mails that bed capacity was full, that dozens of patients were being housed in the emergency department for hours to days.

When we did not have available hospital beds anywhere in a region or state,

when we hired only the bare minimum level of trained staff to “maintain profits,”

we had no elasticity for handling a mass disaster, such as a pandemic.

COVID-19 literally forced us to make decisions about whose lives are more important—

those suffering from the virus, or those with other serious chronic illnesses?

America’s health care system is like a diseased lung:

no compliance,

no room to expand such that it can take in enough oxygen to help it breathe.

it has no elasticity, if the United States had a rapid, organized pandemic response on a national level,

this not only would have saved tens of thousands of lives from the COVID-19 virus itself,

but also would have given people with serious chronic conditions,

including heart disease and cancer, a better chance of getting the treatment they need for survival.

When the pandemic is over,

it will be clear that the hundreds of thousands of deaths from COVID-19 will be just the tip of the iceberg.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/covid-19s-other-unnecessary-death-toll/?print=true

Inhumane, destructive Capitalism is killer-for-profit

[hater]

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1304849129605136384?s=19

Called it

[hater]

https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1305572298632638465?s=19

[hater]

:lmao midterm darwin award :lol

https://twitter.com/spokanetom/status/1306657672750485504?s=19

[tholdren]

https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1305572298632638465?s=19

nope

[pgardn]

Fck this shit...
I was hoping just for the sake of hope.

We really dont need this again in the late fall/winter.
We need kids in school and people at work.

[tholdren]

Fck this shit...
I was hoping just for the sake of hope.

We really dont need this again in the late fall/winter.
We need kids in school and people at work.

Lololololollll

[weebo]

COVID-19 emails from Nashville mayor's office show disturbing revelation

The coronavirus cases on lower Broadway may have been so low that the mayor’s office and the Metro Health Department decided to keep it secret.

Emails between the mayor’s senior advisor and the health department reveal only a partial picture. But what they reveal is disturbing.

The discussion involves the low number of coronavirus cases emerging from bars and restaurants and how to handle that.

And most disturbingly, how to keep it from the public.

On June 30th, contact tracing was given a small view of coronavirus clusters. Construction and nursing homes were found to be causing problems with more than a thousand cases traced to each category, but bars and restaurants reported just 22 cases.

Leslie Waller from the health department asks, “This isn’t going to be publicly released, right? Just info for Mayor’s Office?"

“Correct, not for public consumption,” writes senior advisor Benjamin Eagles.

A month later, the health department was asked point blank about the rumor there are only 80 cases traced to bars and restaurants.

Reporter Nate Rau asks, “The figure you gave of 'more than 80' does lead to a natural question: If there have been over 20,000 positive cases of COVID-19 in Davidson and only 80 or so are traced to restaurants and bars, doesn’t that mean restaurants and bars aren’t a very big problem?"

Health department official Brian Todd asked five health department officials, "Please advise how you recommend I respond. "

The name at the top of the response is clipped off but you may find the answer unacceptable.

“My two cents. We have certainly refused to give counts per bar because those numbers are low per site.

We could still release the total though, and then a response to the over 80 could be because that number is increasing all the time and we don’t want to say a specific number."

Neither the health department nor the mayor’s office would confirm the authenticity of the emails but councilmember Steve Glover had a Metro staff attorney inquire. Here’s the official answer:

“I was able to get verification from the Mayor’s Office and the Department of Health that these emails are real,” the staff attorney answered.

Glover says this is Metro Nashville orchestrating a cover up.

"They are fabricating information," Glover said. "They’ve blown there entire credibility Dennis. Its gone, I don’t trust a thing they say going forward ...nothing."

Glover says he has been contacted by an endless stream of downtown bartenders, waitresses and restaurant owners asking why would officials not release these numbers?

"We raised taxes 34 percent and put hundreds literally thousands of people out of work that are now worried about losing their homes, their apartments...and we did it on bogus data. That should be illegal," Glover said.

Again, FOX 17 News wasn't told by the mayor’s office this wasn’t true. We were told to file a freedom of information act request.

Which allows us now to ask the question, why are you keeping this from us? Why would you even want to? Its just the real numbers and what could possibly be an honorable motive?

https://fox17.com/news/local/covid-19-emails-from-nashville-mayors-office-show-disturbing-revelation

So now downplaying virus bad??

[tholdren]

So now downplaying virus bad??

beahahahaahahahahahahahauauauahaahaa

You cant read.
Lololololooloolloolloooloolll

[weebo]

beahahahaahahahahahahahauauauahaahaa

You cant read.
Lololololooloolloolloooloolll

You can't infer :lol

You're sun-downing grandpa...forget to take your namenda today? :lol

[Winehole23]

Kushner from his high chair

1306789534600957953

[tholdren]

You can't infer :lol

You're sun-downing grandpa...forget to take your namenda today? :lol

bwahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahha hahahahahhahahah

Downplaying? Because they hid data and made a decision based on the opposite of math.


Loloolooooooooooolllllllll999i


Wear a mask bwahahhahahahhahahahahgzhz

[boutons_deux]

USDA and Meatpacking Industry Collaborated to Undermine Covid-19 Response, Documents Show

Hundreds of emails obtained by Public Citizen and American Oversight offer a rare inside look at the

meat industry's power and access to the highest levels of government.
The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) and the meatpacking industry worked together to downplay and disregard risks to worker health during the Covid-19 pandemic

a week before President Donald Trump issued his controversial executive order (https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/04/28/catastrophic-harm-feared-trump-uses-emergency-powers-keep-meat-packing-plants-open)in April to keep meatpacking plants open—

overriding closure orders from local health officials—

a leading meat industry lobby group drafted a proposed executive order that was strikingly similar to Trump's directive.

"While we knew that the meatpacking industry was lobbying the Trump administration to take steps to protect its profits regardless of the cost to workers' lives, the degree of collaboration these documents show is astounding,"

"As outbreaks continue to emerge in meatpacking plants, it is stunning to see the

cavalier attitude officials took to the health and safety of workers in the early part of the pandemic,"

23 states reported Covid-19 outbreaks in meat and poultry processing facilities, with

16,233 cases and 86 deaths reported in 239 facilities.

Fully 87% of those cases occurred among racial or ethnic minorities.

the prioritization of profit over people.

The poultry industry, already the target of a massive class-action lawsuit (https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2019-09-03/u-s-chicken-industry-accused-of-conspiring-to-keep-immigrant-wages-down) alleging some of

the biggest animal agriculture corporations in the nation conspired to suppress worker wages and benefits,

has been roiled by accusations of worker mistreatment during the pandemic.

Tyson really aren't going to give a fuck about us at all,"

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/09/15/usda-and-meatpacking-industry-collaborated-undermine-covid-19-response-documents?cd-origin=rss

[weebo]

bwahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahha hahahahahhahahah

Downplaying? Because they hid data and made a decision based on the opposite of math.


Loloolooooooooooolllllllll999i


Wear a mask bwahahhahahahhahahahahgzhz

Repub lose their shit because Dem mayor downplays covid data and kills muh economy :cry :lmao

wipe your ass grandpa :lol

[tholdren]

Repub lose their shit because Dem mayor downplays covid data and kills muh economy :cry :lmao

wipe your ass grandpa :lol

Lolololl


This guy so intelligent he says disregard data and lie about it to make policy. Then says its science.

Lolololooliooolooolllool

[tholdren]

Lolololl


This guy so intelligent he says disregard data and lie about it to make policy. Then says its science.

Lolololooliooolooolllool

[tholdren]

Lolololl


This guy so intelligent he says disregard data and lie about it to make policy. Then says its science.

Lolololooliooolooolllool

[tholdren]

200 million

[tholdren]

beahahahahah testing millions

[tholdren]

Lockdown.

If we compare the waves of infection in countries with strict lockdown policies to countries that did not impose lockdowns (Sweden, Iceland …), we see similar curves. So there is no link between the imposed lockdown and the course of the infection. Lockdown has not led to a lower mortality rate.

If we look at the date of application of the imposed lockdowns we see that the lockdowns were set after the peak was already over and the number of cases decreasing. The drop was therefore not the result of the taken measures. 11
As every year, it seems that climatic conditions (weather, temperature and humidity) and growing immunity are more likely to reduce the wave of infection

[hater]

https://twitter.com/EdConwaySky/status/1308003044521631745?s=19

[hater]

https://twitter.com/marknelsoncomic/status/1307995845913178115?s=19

[hater]

https://twitter.com/bopinion/status/1306519079101046790?s=19

:lmao porton johnson

And ppl think Dump is the worst :lol

[pgardn]

https://twitter.com/bopinion/status/1306519079101046790?s=19

:lmao porton johnson

And ppl think Dump is the worst :lol

They are opening the pubs back up... with the weather changing.
Disaster.

[Winehole23]

the call is coming from inside the house


The managing editor of the prominent conservative website RedState (https://www.thedailybeast.com/conservative-site-redstate-purges-anti-trump-voices-fired-writers-say) has spent months trashing U.S. officials tasked with combating COVID-19, dubbing White House coronavirus task force member Dr. Anthony Fauci (https://www.thedailybeast.com/while-coronavirus-rages-in-dr-fauci-we-trust) a “mask nazi,” and intimating that government officials responsible for the pandemic response should be executed.

But that writer, who goes by the pseudonym “streiff,” isn’t just another political blogger. The Daily Beast has discovered that he actually works in the public affairs shop of the very agency that Fauci leads.

William B. Crews is, by day, a public affairs specialist for the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. But for years he has been writing for RedState under the streiff pseudonym. And in that capacity he has been contributing to the very same disinformation campaign that his superiors at the (https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/fauci-on-coronavirus-misinformation-virus-is-not-a-hoax-and-children-are-not-immune/2378159/) NIAID say is a major challenge to widespread efforts to control a pandemic that has claimed roughly 200,000 U.S. lives.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/redstate-covid-troll-streiff-is-actually-bill-crews-and-he-actually-works-for-dr-anthony-fauci/

[Winehole23]

Under his pseudonym, Crews has derided his own colleagues as part of a left-wing anti-Trump conspiracy and vehemently criticized the man who leads his agency, whom he described as the “attention-grubbing and media-whoring Anthony Fauci.” He has gone after other public health officials at the state and federal levels, as well—“the public health Karenwaffen,'' as he’s called them—over measures such as the closures of businesses and other public establishments and the promotion of social distancing and mask-wearing. Those policies, Crews insists, have no basis in science and are simply surreptitious efforts to usurp Americans’ rights, destroy the U.S. economy, and damage President Donald Trump’s reelection effort.

“I think we’re at the point where it is safe to say that the entire Wuhan virus scare was nothing more or less than a massive fraud perpetrated upon the American people by ‘experts’ who were determined to fundamentally change the way the country lives and is organized and governed,” Crews wrote in a June post (https://archive.is/xfHiL) on RedState.

“If there were justice,” he added, “we’d send and [sic] few dozen of these fascists to the gallows and gibbet their tarred bodies in chains until they fall apart.”

[baseline bum]

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1304849129605136384?s=19

Called it

So much for DarrinS's claim that the hard hit areas are near herd mentality eh?

[TimDunkem]

So much for DarrinS (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=2042)'s claim that the hard hit areas are near herd mentality eh?
Darrin hasn't posted in a few days. Did he finally leave his zipcode and catch the Rona, or get lost on a beer run?

[Winehole23]

CDC scrubs aerosol transmission info from its webpage three days after including it.

There's not much doubt or controversy about the infection pathway being respiratory, one wonders who ordered this.

1308091896984551425.

[Trill Clinton]

Another trump minion succumbs to the boogey virus.

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[boutons_deux]

More evidence that Capitalist America is a failed state.

The N95 shortage America can’t seem to fix

Nurses and doctors depend on respirator masks to protect them from covid-19.

So why are we still running low on an item that once cost around $1?

N95s were designed to be thrown away after every patient.

By this July afternoon, Williams had been wearing the same one for more than two months.

To get to her, the N95 had traveled from a British factory to a Baltimore warehouse, in a supply chain as tangled and layered as the web of microscopic fibers inside the mask’s filter.

Six months later, that shortage persists, leaving health-care workers exposed, patients at risk and public health experts flummoxed over a seemingly simple question:

Why is the world’s richest country still struggling to meet the demand for an item that once cost around $1 a piece?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/local/news/n-95-shortage-covid/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/local/news/n-95-shortage-covid/)

available here for $70/ each

https://sonoviatech.com/product/sonomask-eclipse-for-men-antiviral-reusable-adjustable-face-masks-with-nose-wire/

[baseline bum]

Another trump minion succumbs to the boogey virus.

1307740533826244610

1307791105702924289

:rollin

[ElNono]

Another trump minion succumbs to the boogey virus.

1307740533826244610

1307791105702924289

Sounds like your typical trumptard conspiratard, tbh...

[hater]

Another trump minion succumbs to the boogey virus.

1307740533826244610

1307791105702924289

Grim bidniz

[tholdren]

The CDC has removed new guidance that acknowledged airborne transmission of the coronavirus, posting in a note on its website that the guidance was only a draft and had been published in error.

[tholdren]

COVID deaths closely match 'normal' age-related risk pattern, says expert

[pgardn]

COVID deaths closely match 'normal' age-related risk pattern, says expert

keep trying

and failing

[hater]

https://twitter.com/hankvanb/status/1306230499728191489?s=19

[pgardn]

CDC scrubs aerosol transmission info from its webpage three days after including it.

There's not much doubt or controversy about the infection pathway being respiratory, one wonders who ordered this.

1308091896984551425.

With all the replacements and defections in every part of this administration's tendrils I dont wonder.

[ChumpDumper]

Fauci finally takes a wet shit on a stupid Trumptard.

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[spurraider21]

Fauci finally takes a wet shit on a stupid Trumptard.

1308793235805007874
:lmao

[baseline bum]

Fauci finally takes a wet shit on a stupid Trumptard.

1308793235805007874

Thinking 22% is fucking herd immunity :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Thinking 22% is fucking herd immunity :lol:lmao Darrin

"They ran out of fuel."

[DarrinS]

7-day moving average of daily deaths in Sweden is one

[DarrinS]

Thinking 22% is fucking herd immunity :lol

If 30-40% have natural immunity, it's close.

[ChumpDumper]

7-day moving average of daily deaths in Sweden is oneAre you saying they've achieved herd immunity, Darrin?

Yes or no.

[hater]

Rand Paul is an embarrasment to the Paul name.

And yes ma niga Ron is also a covidiot per se. But rand is just a stupid mongoloid on top

[Will Hunting]

If 30-40% have natural immunity, it's close.
:lol Karrin knows more than Fauci

[hater]

If 30-40% have natural immunity, it's close.

A few months and mutations later that immunity is gone. So no.

This is a flu like virus. Well never achieve herd immunity. Its a myth

Thats why we also will never have a vaccine.

In a few years lethality will decrease. Thats all we can look forward to

[ChumpDumper]

7-day moving average of daily deaths in Sweden is oneIt was 1 in South Korea for five months.

Did they achieve herd immunity, Darrin?

Yes or no.

[Will Hunting]

Rand Paul is an embarrasment to the Paul name.

And yes ma niga Ron is also a covidiot per se. But rand is just a stupid mongoloid on top
Ron Paul was great on foreign policy but that was basically a broken clock being right twice a day. Most of his other ideas were retarded.

[hater]

Ron Paul was great on foreign policy but that was basically a broken clock being right twice a day. Most of his other ideas were retarded.

You need to watch his economic predictions done in the 80s it all becabe true. He wqs right more than most politicians.

He was hated and attacked by deep state/media a la Bernie/Tulsi

[Will Hunting]

You need to watch his economic predictions done in the 80s it all becabe true. He wqs right more than most politicians.
Right, and his economic solution was to gut regulations for everything and implement a flat tax. Would have made our economic status even worse.

[hater]

Right, and his economic solution was to gut regulations for everything and implement a flat tax. Would have made our economic status even worse.

Ridding us of the oligarrchy chokehold on government coulda worked. Its a vision as extreme as bernies tbqh

I like it

[Will Hunting]

These are your typical Ron Paul supporters:

ZITP93pqtdQ

[DarrinS]

A few months and mutations later that immunity is gone. So no.

This is a flu like virus. Well never achieve herd immunity. Its a myth

Thats why we also will never have a vaccine.

In a few years lethality will decrease. Thats all we can look forward to


This virus doesn't mutate at a rate anywhere near influenza, and yet we have flu shots.

[Will Hunting]

Ridding us of the oligarrchy chokehold on government coulda worked. Its a vision as extreme as bernies tbqh

I like it
:lmao deregulations and a flat tax rids us of the oligarchy chokehold on government? Libertarians are so funny.

[baseline bum]

If 30-40% have natural immunity, it's close.

If my aunt had testicles she'd be my uncle.

[DarrinS]

7-day moving average of daily deaths in Sweden is one

7-day average for NY is six.

Strange how areas most infected have the best curves now.

[ChumpDumper]

7-day average for NY is six.

Strange how areas most infected have the best curves now.South Korea's is 3.

Strange how you pretend it doesn't exist.

[DarrinS]

If my aunt had testicles she'd be my uncle.

He wouldn't be your aunt. :lol

[baseline bum]

7-day average for NY is six.

Strange how areas most infected have the best curves now.

Might want to go check how infections are blowing up in the UK and France right now. Spain too.

[ChumpDumper]

How did South Korea do it?

a) They reached herd immunity with only 400 deaths like Darrin says.

b) They are virus Übermenschen like Rand says.

c) Koreans be lying like DMC says.

d) They did a good job at mitigation.

[Will Hunting]

Might want to go check how infections are blowing up in the UK and France right now. Spain too.
Belgium too, the country that was initially hit the worst in terms of deaths/capita.

[hater]

:lmao deregulations and a flat tax rids us of the oligarchy chokehold on government? Libertarians are so funny.

I think it has merit. Most regulations affect small and mid businesses. U think big businesses obey any existingvregulations? :lol

Their armies of lawyers will always find loopholes

[Will Hunting]

I think it has merit. Most regulations affect small and mid businesses. U think big businesses obey any existingvregulations? :lol

Their armies of lawyers will always find loopholes
:lol more fortune cookie wisdom without a shred of evidence

[Will Hunting]

:lol hater wants low taxes for the rich, no regulations and is voting for Trump but isn’t a Trump supporter

[DarrinS]

Might want to go check how infections are blowing up in the UK and France right now. Spain too.


How is that translating in terms of mortality? That PCR test is so sensitive, that they are detecting "positive cases" for people who probably aren't even infectious.

[DarrinS]

Belgium too, the country that was initially hit the worst in terms of deaths/capita.

7-day moving average daily deaths is 3

[baseline bum]

How is that translating in terms of mortality? That PCR test is so sensitive, that they are detecting "positive cases" for people who probably aren't even infectious.

I thought we were talking about infection rates needed for herd mentality. What does mortality rate have to do with that? Also deaths lag infections.

[Will Hunting]

7-day moving average daily deaths is 3
Are we talking about deaths or herd immunity? You’re moving the goal posts.

[baseline bum]

Are we talking about deaths or herd immunity? You’re moving the goal posts.

You misspelled herd mentality

[Will Hunting]

You misspelled herd mentality
Lol him saying a test is “so sensitive” because it says that people who have the virus are positive.

[DarrinS]

Lol him saying a test is “so sensitive” because it says that people who have the virus are positive.

You can have levels so low, you test positive, but aren't infectious.

[Trainwreck2100]

Thinking 22% is fucking herd immunity :lol
"Look at all those people that died in NY that's real bad" and a second later "Look NY has herd immunity now because of all those people that died, the rest of America should be like NY"

If 30-40% have natural immunity, it's close.

Being immune to the cold does not make you immune to this just because there's an immunuity to a seperate coronavirus doesn't mean you can say you are immune to this.

[baseline bum]

You can have levels so low, you test positive, but aren't infectious.

Gave up real quick on that herd mentality argument I see.

[DarrinS]

I thought we were talking about infection rates needed for herd mentality. What does mortality rate have to do with that? Also deaths lag infections.

They are REALLY lagging in the UK.

[Will Hunting]

You can have levels so low, you test positive, but aren't infectious.
It’s a binary test, you’re either positive or negative, do you seriously not understand how that works?

When a woman who’s 8 months pregnant takes a pregnancy test it doesn’t show up that she’s “more pregnant” than a woman 3 weeks pregnant.

[DarrinS]

Gave up real quick on that herd mentality argument I see.

Nope. PCR tests are too sensitive and they are conducting them on a massive scale compared to Mar-Apr.

[DarrinS]

It’s a binary test, you’re either positive or negative, do you seriously not understand how that works?

When a woman who’s 8 months pregnant takes a pregnancy test it doesn’t show up that she’s “more pregnant” than a woman 3 weeks pregnant.


Do you know what a confusion matrix is? Do you know what a ROC curve is?

[baseline bum]

Nope.

You're moving goalposts.


PCR tests are too sensitive and they are conducting them on a massive scale compared to Mar-Apr.

Because we all know the virus doesn't replicate if the PCR detects it early.

[Will Hunting]

Do you know what a confusion matrix is? Do you know what a ROC curve is?
:lol looks like you learned some cool terms in some COVID is a hoax literature you’ve read recently.

[baseline bum]

:lol looks like you learned some cool terms in some COVID is a hoax literature you’ve read recently.

:lol

Probably the page you get taken to after donating money to Trump's campaign.

[Will Hunting]

:lol

Probably the page you get taken to after donating money to Trump's campaign.
:lol it’s so obvious when Karrin learns something new from a right wing talking point and is anxious to share his new expertise with spurstalk

[Trainwreck2100]

Do you know what a confusion matrix is? Do you know what a ROC curve is?

You can be positive but not infectious, because that's how disease works, in terms of a confusion matrix you'd still be considered a true positive. And just because you are not infectious at the time of testing doesn't mean you weren't infectious before

[DarrinS]

:lol looks like you learned some cool terms in some COVID is a hoax literature you’ve read recently.

Lol, no. If you have a model (or test) that predicts a binary outcome, you will have false positives and false negatives. Typically, you want to maximize your sensitivity/recall while minimizing false positive rate.

[DarrinS]

You can be positive but not infectious, because that's how disease works, in terms of a confusion matrix you'd still be considered a true positive. And just because you are not infectious at the time of testing doesn't mean you weren't infectious before

True. But this is why some people who recovered from covid (in some cases for months) still test positive.

[Will Hunting]

Lol, no. If you have a model (or test) that predicts a binary outcome, you will have false positives and false negatives. Typically, you want to maximize your sensitivity/recall while minimizing false positive rate.
What you describe, people who have COVID-19 but "aren't infectious," aren't false positives.

[DarrinS]

What you describe, people who have COVID-19 but "aren't infectious," aren't false positives.

Read previous post I made to Trainwreck

[pgardn]

A few months and mutations later that immunity is gone. So no.

This is a flu like virus. Well never achieve herd immunity. Its a myth

Thats why we also will never have a vaccine.

In a few years lethality will decrease. Thats all we can look forward to

The short term lethality has already decreased because we know better what to do with patients who have it.

The rest is just complete horse shit.
This virus is classified and is molecularly VERY different that the flu viruses.
AS OF PRESENT: This virus looks like it will be MUCH EASIER to produce an effective vaccine compared to the flu just based on the fact flu virusES MUTATE in significant ways.

Why is it you dont want a vaccine for this virus enough so that you just lie about it?

[Trainwreck2100]

True. But this is why some people who recovered from covid (in some cases for months) still test positive.

Ok but what does that have to do with confusion matrixes?

[boutons_deux]

Coronavirus cases rise in 22 states

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=c5ffe9fe07&attid=0.1&permmsgid=msg-a:r-2504466552280074698&th=174c5a3994774ad2&view=fimg&sz=s0-l75-ft&attbid=ANGjdJ8HeZJeC-lJeuQfywzu2TW-Ij0Tyca76Lv5dSnV5HsxnTwbHedgXDKGccTb1VtNZY4z6rEhhc yojjTjXnqAm_6IpmS227iPEsU_5d9fi_-TXvTV7uZY0fuG6u4&disp=emb&realattid=ii_kfic22wh0

https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-cases-infections-pandemic-texas-arizona-bad-40f80c91-b05a-4d09-9ef0-03d749c12698.html

[DarrinS]

Coronavirus cases rise in 22 states

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=c5ffe9fe07&attid=0.1&permmsgid=msg-a:r-2504466552280074698&th=174c5a3994774ad2&view=fimg&sz=s0-l75-ft&attbid=ANGjdJ8HeZJeC-lJeuQfywzu2TW-Ij0Tyca76Lv5dSnV5HsxnTwbHedgXDKGccTb1VtNZY4z6rEhhc yojjTjXnqAm_6IpmS227iPEsU_5d9fi_-TXvTV7uZY0fuG6u4&disp=emb&realattid=ii_kfic22wh0

https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-cases-infections-pandemic-texas-arizona-bad-40f80c91-b05a-4d09-9ef0-03d749c12698.html


Texas has been declining since July. Harris county dumped 14k backlogged cases on Sept. 22

[TimDunkem]

Darrin also said no one was dying in July.

[hater]

VA governor and family contracted Covid

[DarrinS]

What you describe, people who have COVID-19 but "aren't infectious," aren't false positives.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-54000629

[Trill Clinton]

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[CosmicCowboy]

The short term lethality has already decreased because we know better what to do with patients who have it.

The rest is just complete horse shit.
This virus is classified and is molecularly VERY different that the flu viruses.
AS OF PRESENT: This virus looks like it will be MUCH EASIER to produce an effective vaccine compared to the flu just based on the fact flu virusES MUTATE in significant ways.

Why is it you dont want a vaccine for this virus enough so that you just lie about it?

Who told you it doesn't mutate?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/24/coronavirus-mutate-contagious-study-us-cases

[SnakeBoy]

Who told you it doesn't mutate?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/24/coronavirus-mutate-contagious-study-us-cases

Those are minor mutations that as of yet have not resulted in a new strain. Meaning as far as your body is concerned (or a vaccine) it is the same virus unlike influenza.

[Winehole23]

we know the COVID-19 exit strategy involves rapid testing and contact tracing, why don't we have those things yet?

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[DarrinS]

Zero combined covid deaths yesterday for these large counties in Texas

Bexar
Dallas
Harris
Tarrant
Travis

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/texas/

[hater]

Zero combined covid deaths yesterday for these large counties in Texas

Bexar
Dallas
Harris
Tarrant
Travis

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/texas/

:tu good news

[boutons_deux]

Less Than Half of Americans Say They Would Get Covid-19 Vaccine

if You PAID Them $100 to Take It

https://www.mediaite.com/news/less-than-half-of-americans-say-they-would-get-covid-19-vaccine-if-you-paid-them-100-to-take-it/

Looks like fucking ignorant Americans are fucking themselves with C19 for at least a couple more years.

[boutons_deux]

CDC Director Redfield reportedly fed up with new Trump favorite Atlas:

'Everything he says is false'

https://images.dailykos.com/images/857869/story_image/GettyImages-1272877302.jpg?1600456070

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/9/28/1981425/-CDC-director-Redfield-reportedly-fed-up-with-new-Trump-favorite-Atlas-Everything-he-says-is-false

[boutons_deux]

White House Pressured CDC to Produce Data Backing Trump’s Push to Reopen Schools

https://truthout.org/articles/white-house-pressured-cdc-to-produce-data-backing-trumps-push-to-reopen-schools/

=================

A New York Times survey of more than 1,600 American colleges and universities — including every four-year public institution and every private college that competes in N.C.A.A. sports — has revealed

at least 130,000 cases and at least 70 deaths since the pandemic began.

Most of the cases have been announced since students returned to campus for the fall term.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/covid-college-cases-tracker.html

================

The president wants you dead — and so do his friends and advisers. It's that simple

It's not adequate to say that Trump's regime is stupid and incompetent. That's true — but the malice runs deeper

https://www.salon.com/2020/09/27/the-president-wants-you-dead--and-so-do-his-friends-and-advisers-its-that-simple/

=============


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbUE1nrDMtY&ab_channel=DivineJourney

[Winehole23]

leaning on honest US agencies to tow the electoral line and tailor their work product to suit the temporary needs of the political shop, is a thing.

[SnakeBoy]

In Brazil's Amazon a COVID-19 resurgence dashes herd immunity hopes
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-brazil-manaus-idUSKBN26I0I4

[DarrinS]

In Brazil's Amazon a COVID-19 resurgence dashes herd immunity hopes
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-brazil-manaus-idUSKBN26I0I4


I thought this article was going to be about people becoming re-infected.

Probably just younger people getting it who weren't previously exposed.

Same thing is happening in Europe.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCH36Cckebg

[TampaDude]

It only stops if...

1. We get a vaccine that works.

2. Enough people get infected to establish herd immunity.

Lockdowns are stupid.

Masks are stupid.

[hater]

It only stops if...

1. We get a vaccine that works.

2. Enough people get infected to establish herd immunity.

Lockdowns are stupid.

Masks are stupid.

Lockdlwns and masks are necesarh to avoid hospital collapses.

If hospitals collapse the last worry will be this flu as many will die of other illnesses

So no they are not stupid

It would take years tl reach herd immunity if it was even possible (imo its not)
So again no

Not stupid

[hater]

Oh and vaccines for this are still a hoax

Heard the moderna has shitty side effects like sleeplessness, headache and fever. Lets not forget its 60% effective at best

For a virus that kills 1%? :lol not good enough

[boutons_deux]

Madrid ES about to shutdown again, 3M people

[hater]

Moscow might too

https://twitter.com/Moonbootica/status/1311687493352329216?s=19

My wave 2 prediction looking spot on :tu

[TimDunkem]

How's that Vlad Vaccine working?

[TimDunkem]

Moscow might too

https://twitter.com/Moonbootica/status/1311687493352329216?s=19

My wave 2 prediction looking spot on :tu
A wave around this time was inevitable. The only ones who denied it were the optimists, conspiracy/anti-science nuts, and Trump simps like Darrin.

[boutons_deux]

NYC's positivity rate jumps from excellent 2% to 3.5%

===================

Walsh says Boston will not move forward with the next phase of state’s reopening plan,
as city enters red zone

Boston has moved into the red zone for coronavirus risk, state officials said Wednesday,

after Mayor Martin J. Walsh announced that the city would not be moving forward with Step 2 of Phase 3 of the state’s reopening plan on Monday.

-- Boston Globe email

[boutons_deux]

Can't find it now,

but "some say" wearing a mask as defense against C19 will also probably help reduce seasonal flu sicknesses and deaths.

Seasonal flu is most likely also spread airborne

[boutons_deux]

Donald Trump Is the 'Single Largest Driver' of COVID Misinformation, Study Says

"There are real-world dire health implications," :lol no shit!

https://www.vice.com/en/article/jgxwmp/donald-trump-is-the-single-largest-driver-of-covid-misinformation-study-says?

[SnakeBoy]

It would take years tl reach herd immunity if it was even possible (imo its not)


If herd immunity is not possible then a vaccine won't stop the virus either

All indications are that there is no lasting immunity so your probably right that there will never be herd immunity via infections or vaccines

It's the common cold with a kick

[boutons_deux]

Nearly 20,000 Amazon employees contracted COVID-19 in last six months

The ecommerce giant’s disclosure follows that

it was insufficiently transparent about outbreaks in its fulfillment centers.

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/retail/2020/10/01/nearly-20000-amazon-employees-contracted-covid-19-in-last-six-months (https://www.dallasnews.com/business/retail/2020/10/01/nearly-20000-amazon-employees-contracted-covid-19-in-last-six-months/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=President+says+he+tested+positive+for+ COVID-19%2C+Dallas+FBI+warns+of+far-right+extremism%3A+Your+Friday+morning+roundup&utm_campaign=MorningRoundup_10022020&vgo_ee=GRVly8juFCRPp9TW6boK%2F0zkASpiHornD%2Fz2wZT d1jg%3D)

[hater]

If herd immunity is not possible then a vaccine won't stop the virus either

All indications are that there is no lasting immunity so your probably right that there will never be herd immunity via infections or vaccines

It's the common cold with a kick

Agreed.

We all will worry about itbwhen we reach a certain age :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Uh oh, real documentary filmmakers are releasing shit.

1312053792276447232

[boutons_deux]

Uh oh, real documentary filmmakers are releasing shit.

1312053792276447232

So MUCH material, must be hard to select what to include

[hater]

https://twitter.com/itvtynetees/status/1312039781996560387?s=19

[Winehole23]

new cases in 24 states were up 10% week over week.


Twenty-four states saw their number of new cases rise at least 10% this week from the week before, according to data from Johns Hopkins University. (https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/02/health/us-coronavirus-friday/index.html)

The county's seven-day average of new daily cases -- about 42,400 -- is more than 20% higher than where it was September 12, when it was at two-month low of about 34,300.

It's still below a summer peak of roughly 67,000 from July -- but health officials have said even daily cases in the 40,000s are far too high (https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/02/health/us-coronavirus-friday/index.html) if the country wants to avoid a dangerous surge in the coming months, when cold weather will nudge people indoors more often.https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/03/health/us-coronavirus-saturday/index.html

[hater]

https://twitter.com/27khv/status/1312469254713737217?s=19

[hater]

https://twitter.com/MirrorBreaking_/status/1312480041758937089?s=19

[Will Hunting]

new cases in 24 states were up 10% week over week.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/03/health/us-coronavirus-saturday/index.html
Wisconsin is getting smoked, some of their hospitals in the Green Bay area are already near full capacity. If Trump had done a super spreader rally there it would have only been worse too.

[hater]

Its not an if anymore but a when hospitals will be back at full capacity

https://twitter.com/Jerusalem_Post/status/1312480571239489537?s=19

[Will Hunting]

Maybe if Western Europe goes back to being a COVID cesspool it'll start letting Americans back in :lol

[tholdren]

Who and dr. Ryan said ifr.... .13


Bwahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahajhahahah


Lololololooll

[tholdren]

Who and dr. Ryan said ifr.... .13


Bwahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahajhahahah


Lololololooll

[SnakeBoy]

New York cases rising. Cuomo blames the Jews.

[Trainwreck2100]

oh hey look, it's that spike in the fall everyone was talking about

[Winehole23]

oh hey look, it's that spike in the fall everyone was talking aboutCouldn't be; Trump and Dr. Darrin say we've turned the corner.

[tholdren]

Who and dr. Ryan said ifr.... .13


Bwahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahajhahahah


Lololololooll

Less than flu

[tholdren]

Less than flu

[hater]

Called it

Wave 2 is here

https://twitter.com/NBCNewYork/status/1312789639036653571?s=19

[hater]

:lmao nyc

They openend schools for what? 1 month? :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Called it

Wave 2 is here

https://twitter.com/NBCNewYork/status/1312789639036653571?s=19They really need to get Darrin up there to reassure them there's no fuel for the virus but he's too busy teaching Conley about experimental drugs.

[DarrinS]

Called it

Wave 2 is here

https://twitter.com/NBCNewYork/status/1312789639036653571?s=19


Probably younger people getting it, which is a good thing. Cuomo already killed off all the vulnerable.

[ChumpDumper]

You said they were out of fuel.

[Winehole23]

Probably younger people getting it, which is a good thing. Cuomo already killed off all the vulnerable.Wanna bet?

[tholdren]

You said they were out of fuel.

LolololoI ChumpDumper

[ChumpDumper]

LolololoI ChumpDumper:lol you folded and hid in your bunker

[tholdren]

LolololoI ChumpDumper

LolooololooloIlolll ChumpDumper

[ChumpDumper]

:lol I broke him and made him repeat himself.

f:lolldb:lolt

[tholdren]

LolooololooloIlolll ChumpDumper

Loloooololloolllo

ChumpDumper lolollolo

[Winehole23]

France just closed the bars for two weeks starting Tuesday, England and Spain are feeling the pain again too.

SARS-CoV-2 isn't going away soon.

1312989470287945728

[boutons_deux]

(Boston) Hospitals digging in for a long winter as coronavirus patients increase

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/10/04/metro/hospitals-digging-long-winter-coronavirus-patients-increase/

Could The Trump-Made Pandemic kill 400K

800 dead/day x 180 days (thru next March) = 144K dead

[tholdren]

France just closed the bars for two weeks starting Tuesday, England and Spain are feeling the pain again too.

SARS-CoV-2 isn't going away soon.

1312989470287945728



Lolololooo

Cases.




Loloooloooooool

[tholdren]

Lolololooo

Cases.




Loloooloooooool

[SnakeBoy]

CDC finally acknowledges airborne spread of coronavirus
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/cdc-finally-acknowledges-airborne-spread-of-coronavirus/ar-BB19JeDO

[SnakeBoy]

SARS-CoV-2 isn't going away soon.


It's not going away

[tholdren]

CDC finally acknowledges airborne spread of coronavirus
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/cdc-finally-acknowledges-airborne-spread-of-coronavirus/ar-BB19JeDO

Lolololool

Who cares? Its less deadly than flu.

[tholdren]

Lolololool

Who cares? Its less deadly than flu.

[tholdren]

Lololollo

[SnakeBoy]

WHO estimates 760 million people infected so far

That puts IFR at .1%

[SnakeBoy]

Median age of death from covid is 78
Avg US lifespan 78

[hater]

Median age of death from covid is 78
Avg US lifespan 78

And 10% deathrate on 65+ year old. Thats a potential 5 million rotten carcassses and we are only talking about 65+

[SnakeBoy]

And 10% deathrate on 65+ year old. Thats a potential 5 million rotten carcassses and we are only talking about 65+

Shush, it's not for you.

[tholdren]

WHO estimates 760 million people infected so far

That puts IFR at .1%

2017 2018 flu ifr .18


Lolooolloollol

[tholdren]

2017 2018 flu ifr .18


Lolooolloollol

[boutons_deux]

Conversation Quickly Spreads Droplets More Than Six Feet Inside Buildings

https://scienceblog.com/518856/conversation-quickly-spreads-droplets-more-than-six-feet-inside-buildings/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+scienceblogrssfeed+%28Science Blog.com%29

[tholdren]

2017 2018 flu ifr .18


Lolooolloollol

[SnakeBoy]

Better

[tholdren]

2017 2018 flu ifr .18


Lolooolloollol

[tholdren]

2017 2018 flu ifr .18


Lolooolloollol

[hater]

You know is 2020 when NY jews are rioting :lol

https://twitter.com/SVNewsAlerts/status/1313698247492370436?s=19

[boutons_deux]

CDC finally acknowledges airborne COVID-19 spread, for real this time

The CDC has updated its COVID-19 guidance to acknowledge that

the virus can sometimes spread via small droplet particles that linger in the air.

https://www.livescience.com/cdc-airborne-covid-19-spread-update.html?utm_source=Selligent

[boutons_deux]

Coronavirus can survive on skin for 9 hours

https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/6ALn9JFVMADYcB9vkxJmwQ-320-80.jpg

https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-survives-9-hours-on-skin.html

[boutons_deux]

Mysterious inflammatory syndrome tied to COVID-19 strikes adults as well as kids

The CDC released a report describing

a "multisystem inflammatory syndrome in adults" or (MIS-A),

months after a similar condition was reported in children.

https://www.livescience.com/multisystem-inflammatory-syndrome-adults-covid-19.html

[tholdren]

Mysterious inflammatory syndrome tied to COVID-19 strikes adults as well as kids

The CDC released a report describing

a "multisystem inflammatory syndrome in adults" or (MIS-A),

months after a similar condition was reported in children.

https://www.livescience.com/multisystem-inflammatory-syndrome-adults-covid-19.html





Lolookololloll

[tholdren]

Lolookololloll

[tholdren]

Lolookololloll

[tholdren]

Lolookololloll

[SnakeBoy]

1314327230437302272

[tholdren]

1314327230437302272

This has been known since March. Ifr going to end up hovering around .1%

[SnakeBoy]

Germany faces 'uncontrolled' coronavirus spread as cases jump
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-germany-cases-idUSKBN26T0D3

[spurraider21]

1314327230437302272
article written by Tyler Durden

full of a lot of misunderstandings, like conflating CFR with IFR for starters

[SnakeBoy]

article written by Tyler Durden

full of a lot of misunderstandings, like conflating CFR with IFR for starters

Shush it's not for you

[spurraider21]

Shush it's not for you
who was the misinformation for?

[spurraider21]

Median age of death from covid is 78
Avg US lifespan 78
so anybody who dies after age 78 is irrelevant because they were about to drop dead anyway. damn i should go murder some 80 year olds, id have a foolproof defense. they cant prove that i caused their death because they were past the median lifespan

[SnakeBoy]

who was the misinformation for?

I'm lending support to the one you guys broke because I'm compassionate.

[SnakeBoy]

so anybody who dies after age 78 is irrelevant because they were about to drop dead anyway. damn i should go murder some 80 year olds, id have a foolproof defense. they cant prove that i caused their death because they were past the median lifespan

Not.For.You

[SnakeBoy]

article written by Tyler Durden


Props on the name catch though.

[spurraider21]

Not.For.You
then send this person private messages

[Winehole23]

so anybody who dies after age 78 is irrelevant because they were about to drop dead anyway. damn i should go murder some 80 year olds, id have a foolproof defense. they cant prove that i caused their death because they were past the median lifespantHeY HaD uNdErLyInG cOnDiTiOnS

[SnakeBoy]

then send this person private messages

Where's the fun in that?

[Winehole23]

So If I stab a hemophiliac and he bleeds out, no harm no foul. I didn't kill him, hemophilia did

[tholdren]

so anybody who dies after age 78 is irrelevant because they were about to drop dead anyway. damn i should go murder some 80 year olds, id have a foolproof defense. they cant prove that i caused their death because they were past the median lifespan

Lolooolol strawman

[ChumpDumper]

Lolooolol strawmanSo those deaths count?

OK.

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ej7Vc3AVoAAENXA?format=png&name=large

[tholdren]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ej7Vc3AVoAAENXA?format=png&name=large

Good

[tholdren]

Good

[Ef-man]

And in other news, foldren remains in a permanent fold.

Plus, condolences to him as his family will soon get very sick, leaving him homeless or they will send him away.

[tholdren]

And in other news, foldren remains in a permanent fold.

Plus, condolences to him as his family will soon get very sick, leaving him homeless or they will send him away.

Bwahahahhahahahhahahahahahzhhahahhzhz very sick



Lololooooloioll

[Ef-man]

Yes you are, and your family will get sicker and send you away.

So sad to see you fold!

:lol

[Reck]

1315287262830133248

These morons want 4 more years of this. God help us if that ever happens.

[hater]

1315287262830133248

These morons want 4 more years of this. God help us if that ever happens.

:lmao

[Winehole23]

(Find the animated bar chart race at the link)


The numbers are the total confirmed normalized* cases per million for each state since June. A '10,000' means 1% of the state's population has tested positive of COVID since June 1. June 1 was chosen as it was around that time that countries worldwide that had been sucker-punched months before had the opportunity to apply proven preventative measures. It also provided an opportunity to contrast the resulting data with states' political affiliations, using the Cook Partisan Voting Index (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cook_Partisan_Voting_Index). The results suggest a strong correlation between a state's political leanings and its ability to employ proven science to slow the spread of COVID.* "Normalization" means the abnormalities in the data were evened out. For example, if there were 10 days in a row of a few cases/deaths a day and then one day of 1000... that looks awful and frenetic on a chart like this, even when framed in a per-week display. In reality, that 1000 is just a backlog catch-up, so I normalized it by spreading the thousand over previous dates for a more even / more realistic data. It works similarly when the total number of cases/deaths drops one day. Likely a correction from a previous report, I just subtracted the difference over previous dates to numbers that are probably closer to reality.
https://dangoodspeed.com/covid/total-cases-since-june

[Winehole23]

SARS-CoV-2 is a recently identified coronavirus that causes the respiratory disease known asCOVID-19. Despite the urgent need, we still do not fully understand the molecular basis ofSARS-CoV-2 pathogenesis. Here, we comprehensively define the interactions between SARSCoV-2 proteins and human RNAs. NSP16 binds to the mRNA recognition domains of the U1and U2 splicing RNAs and acts to suppress global mRNA splicing upon SARS-CoV-2 infection.NSP1 binds to 18S ribosomal RNA in the mRNA entry channel of the ribosome and leads toglobal inhibition of mRNA translation upon infection. Finally, NSP8 and NSP9 bind to the 7SLRNA in the Signal Recognition Particle and interfere with protein trafficking to the cellmembrane upon infection. Disruption of each of these essential cellular functions acts tosuppress the interferon response to viral infection.

https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(20)31310-6



The research was conducted primarily in the laboratory of Mitchell Guttman, professor of biology and Heritage Medical Research Institute investigator. A paper describing the research appears online ahead of publication in the journal Cell.


The SARS-CoV-2 virus produces about 30 viral proteins. In this new research, the Guttman laboratory examined each of these and mapped out how they interact with the molecular components within human cells grown in a lab dish. They found that SARS-CoV-2 proteins attack three critical cellular processes to disrupt human protein (https://phys.org/tags/protein/) production.


https://scx1.b-cdn.net/csz/news/800/2020/1-howsarscov2d.jpg

https://phys.org/news/2020-10-sars-cov-disables-human-cellular-alarm.html

[Winehole23]

"Each of the processes that SARS-CoV-2 disrupts— splicing, translation, and protein trafficking—is so important for converting the human genetic material into proteins, and they are essential for human biology," says Guttman. "In fact, discovery of each of these processes has separately led to the awarding of a Nobel Prize. These are machines that are central to life. We cannot exist without them. SARS-CoV-2 has evolved in very specific ways to disable these cellular machines and disrupt their functions."

[tholdren]

Ifr less than flu

[TimDunkem]

Foldren is really invested in this. From grumpy old man upstairs to a permanent fixture as the Political Forum's bunker bitch with about 10k posts in only a few months. Sad!

[Winehole23]

Ifr less than fluin terms of deaths per million, when was the last time the flu killed as many people as COVID-19 in the USA?

[hater]

Foldren is really invested in this. From grumpy old man upstairs to a permanent fixture as the Political Forum's bunker bitch with about 10k posts in only a few months. Sad!

You hate to see it

[ElNono]

You hate to see it

It is what it is

[tholdren]

in terms of deaths per million, when was the last time the flu killed as many people as COVID-19 in the USA?
How are deaths coded?

[ElNono]

^ another fold

[tholdren]

Foldren is really invested in this. From grumpy old man upstairs to a permanent fixture as the Political Forum's bunker bitch with about 10k posts in only a few months. Sad!

Loloolooll

Here comes TimDunkem.
He cried about having it
He said all of Texas would be out of hospitals
He said more than 10x flu.

And here we are. Ifr less than flu.

Just like I said.


Lolooollloolollolll

He went into hysterical covid posting

[ElNono]

^ meltdown + fold... sad true story, tbh

[tholdren]

^ another fold

Elwrongwrong will use raw stats to attempt to prove a point , but have no idea how this data is calculated. Been doing this since January. Loloooll

Here he is. Still low level math.

[ElNono]

^ lashing out and taking it personal once found to be a fraud.

Get help, tbh

[tholdren]

Elwrongwrong will use raw stats to attempt to prove a point , but have no idea how this data is calculated. Been doing this since January. Loloooll

Here he is. Still low level math.

Elwrongwrong unable to answer questions and then cried about folding.



Loloooolll

Responds every time I post.

I win x2

[ElNono]

^ lashing out and taking it personal once found to be a fraud.

Get help, tbh

[tholdren]

Elwrongwrong unable to answer questions and then cried about folding.



Loloooolll

Responds every time I post.

I win x2
Bwahahahhahaha triggered and he folded

[ElNono]

^ lashing out and taking it personal once found to be a fraud.

Get help, tbh

[tholdren]

Elwrongwrong unable to answer questions and then cried about folding.



Loloooolll

Responds every time I post.

I win x2

[TimDunkem]

bwahaha Meeeellllltdooooownnnn :lmao

Just delete your account. No one reads your posts anymore, old man. :lol

[baseline bum]

foldren fagging up threads per par

[tholdren]

Elwrongwrong unable to answer questions and then cried about folding.



Loloooolll

Responds every time I post.

I win x2

[Winehole23]

@THEHermanCain urges us to resume life as normal

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkDDm3gXgAAX9yZ?format=jpg&name=small

[tholdren]

Ifr less than flu