Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

[spurraider21]

:lmao trump specifically asked about taking responsibility for disbanding the pandemic response team and his response is "thats a nasty question" and then denies even knowing what she's talking about

[koriwhat]

i care less about those gaffes. care more about a guy who has slashed CDC funding and disbanded the pandemic response team to pay for tax cuts for the rich. care more about a guy who wasn't taking this virus seriously until just recently, having called it a hoax, pretending it's just going to go away, claiming that in a matter of days it will be down to 5 or less cases (with no basis in fact), and delayed what should have been a much quicker response

you know he literally cut back the cdc and the pandemic response team back to their respective budgets and whatnot right? he didn't cut shit. the same bullshit lefty talking points i've read over and over again... way to be duped! :tu

as far as taking this covid-19 seriously, i doubt you took it seriously til yesterday too. he never claimed the virus itself was a hoax but that the MSM was blowing it up to be worse than it was at the time. more proof of your bias and allegiance to the MSM.

[koriwhat]

They are going to cut food stamps. to save money.

The Trump administration is moving forward with a rule change that could kick 700,000 Americans off food stamps (https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-rule-change-kicks-food-stamps-americans-off-coronavirus-outbreak-2020-3)

good! most usually sell them off for drugs anyhow. wake the fuck up!

[CosmicCowboy]

i care less about those gaffes. care more about a guy who has slashed CDC funding and disbanded the pandemic response team to pay for tax cuts for the rich. care more about a guy who wasn't taking this virus seriously until just recently, having called it a hoax, pretending it's just going to go away, claiming that in a matter of days it will be down to 5 or less cases (with no basis in fact), and delayed what should have been a much quicker response

Trumps an ass, but you should really educate yourself. CDC FUNDING WAS NEVER CUT. In fact, it was increased. Trump did in fact propose cuts in White House budget proposals, but the White House doesn't appropriate money. Congress does, and CDC funding was increased in the REAL appropriations bills and Trump signed off on them.

[koriwhat]

Trumps an ass, but you should really educate yourself. CDC FUNDING WAS NEVER CUT. In fact, it was increased. Trump did in fact propose cuts in White House budget proposals, but the White House doesn't appropriate money. Congress does, and CDC funding was increased in the REAL appropriations bills and Trump signed off on them.

we all know lawyers don't read and that's why they have paralegals to pick up the actual burden of work.

[boutons_deux]

They are going to cut food stamps. to save money.



... with full support of the millionaire grifter evangelicals.

God told them that people are on food stamps because they are bad, unChrist-like people and God, clearly a dedicated Capitalist, doesn't love them.

[spurraider21]

Trumps an ass, but you should really educate yourself. CDC FUNDING WAS NEVER CUT. In fact, it was increased. Trump did in fact propose cuts in White House budget proposals, but the White House doesn't appropriate money. Congress does, and CDC funding was increased in the REAL appropriations bills and Trump signed off on them.
:tu thanks for pointing that out

that's true, i misspoke. his budget proposals have routinely called for massive CDC cuts which congress hasn't enacted.

they're still standing firm on their 2021 proposed budget which also includes CDC cuts. and his administration did disband the pandemic response team

[spurraider21]

we all know lawyers don't read and that's why they have paralegals to pick up the actual burden of work.
but you call me a paralegal, implying that i do the actual burden of work :lol

[boutons_deux]

a rule change that could kick 700,000 Americans off food stamps (https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-rule-change-kicks-food-stamps-americans-off-coronavirus-outbreak-2020-3)

that Sonny Perdue's GOVMINT estimate.

Brookings estimate is double that.

after considering to delay the rule change, they decided sadism and inhumanity can't wait, rule goes into effect 1 April.

[koriwhat]

but you call me a paralegal, implying that i do the actual burden of work :lol

i call you a paralegal because, like many lawyers, you think they're beneath yall when in fact yall don't need to exist.

maybe i should just start calling you what you truly are which is a pathetic faux intellectual with a complex. :tu

[TheGreatYacht]

People are so fucking dumb and guillable. This whole Coronavirus is a HOAX. Coronavirus = Common Cold. People are sheep. If people were smart enough to not trust our government and MSM none of this shit at the grocery stores would be happening.

And Trump was right this whole time when he said this Coronavirus is a hoax. I wish he stuck to his guns. I'm so disappointed that he would let himself get dragged into this crap. What a fucking puppet SMH.

FYI Yes I am pissed cuz I can't go to the grocery store like I do every week to buy ordinary things like toilet paper, bread, tuna, beef, etc.

[hater]

People are so fucking dumb and guillable. This whole Coronavirus is a HOAX. Coronavirus = Common Cold. People are sheep. If people were smart enough to not trust our government and MSM none of this shit at the grocery stores would be happening.

And Trump was right this whole time when he said this Coronavirus is a hoax. I wish he stuck to his guns. I'm so disappointed that he would let himself get dragged into this crap. What a fucking puppet SMH.

FYI Yes I am pissed cuz I can't go to the grocery store like I do every week to buy ordinary things like toilet paper, bread, tuna, beef, etc.

:lmao sucks to be you niga

I have tons of toilet paper. I have so much toilet paper Im just making paper balls and throwing it in the trashcan down here in my bunker :lmao

[Reck]

Jair Bolsonaro tested positive.

Trump had dinner with him last Saturday.

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/mar/13/coronavirus-live-updates-uk-us-australia-italy-europe-school-shutdown-share-markets-sport-events-cancelled-latest-update-news

Yeah Trump has it and is now just spreading it to the elites. Lol

[TSA]

:lmao sucks to be you niga

I have tons of toilet paper. I have so much toilet paper Im just making paper balls and throwing it in the trashcan down here in my bunker :lmao

:lol

[Thread]

:lmao sucks to be you niga

I have tons of toilet paper. I have so much toilet paper Im just making paper balls and throwing it in the trashcan down here in my bunker :lmao

I ain't got much...had to end up buying paper towels, but, the old lady won't let me use it. "We're not flushing that...it won't go down properly."

I got a roll in the Cadillac from like 20 years ago. I'm saving it for last resorts.

"Do you still have that roll in your car, Dale?"

Doesn't forget a fuckin' thing.

"No."

[Reck]

I ain't got much...had to end up buying paper towels, but, the old lady won't let me use it. "We're not flushing that...it won't go down properly."

I got a roll in the Cadillac from like 20 years ago. I'm saving it for last resorts.

"Do you still have that roll in your car, Dale?"

Doesn't forget a fuckin' thing.

"No."

Termites probably already ate half of that. It’s gross, throw it out.

[Spurs Homer]

Gonna be fun in the next few weeks-

while we get “puerto rico’d”



americans will be dying by the thousands and trump will be making constant speeches congratulating himself and giving himself an “A plus” for doing absolutely nothing to stem the tide of deaths


we saw puerto ricans dying and suffering - over 3k deaths due to the INaction of this criminal and his fellators celebrated his fuckery


soon - it will be our friends and relatives that are sick and dying and let us see how it feels to watch him come out in public and lie about the deaths, downplay and lie about the numbers and take credit for “winning”

[picnroll]

& the old man keeps insisting on shaking hands with everyone. He is one glorious stubborn son-of-a-gun.

Bless-his-heart.
At this point the jackass is probably spreading the virus.

[spurraider21]

:lmao sucks to be you niga

I have tons of toilet paper. I have so much toilet paper Im just making paper balls and throwing it in the trashcan down here in my bunker :lmao
hater be like

https://i.gyazo.com/30fbdfe9d38639d356f32d2728dbc741.jpg

[Thread]

At this point the jackass is probably spreading the virus.

Probably got tested & it came back negative, but, he ain't going to share that fact.

[LkrFan]

This is a lie. Thanks for your contribution.

You're right... Whenever he said somerhing was a hoax, he lied. Go figure.

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/RonWaxman/status/1238582735012335616?s=19
:lol

[hater]

Chinese billionaire doing in 1 tweet much more than Trump in 2 months :wow

https://twitter.com/foundation_ma/status/1238317660871393280?s=20

[hater]

hater be like

https://i.gyazo.com/30fbdfe9d38639d356f32d2728dbc741.jpg

:lmao thats pretty fucking accurate :lol

[Thread]

Chinese billionaire doing in 1 tweet much more than Trump in 2 months :wow

https://twitter.com/foundation_ma/status/1238317660871393280?s=20

Come Monday gonna have all these millions of tests & gonna be huntin' high & low for Americans to submit to one.

[hater]

Come Monday gonna have all these millions of tests & gonna be huntin' high & low for Americans to submit to one.

drive through testing tbqh

id like to do that once in my lifetime

[phxspurfan]

Probably got tested & it came back negative, but, he ain't going to share that fact.

I think he’s paranoid and getting tested all the time, just not sharing the results

[Winehole23]

Come Monday gonna have all these millions of tests & gonna be huntin' high & low for Americans to submit to one.Man, I wish you were right. But you're not.

[DMC]

:lmao trump specifically asked about taking responsibility for disbanding the pandemic response team and his response is "thats a nasty question" and then denies even knowing what she's talking about

Don't injure yourself as you fall down laughing in every other post.

[boutons_deux]

I think he’s paranoid and getting tested all the time, just not sharing the results

If he or Pence or Barr were infected from this week's meetings, they wouldn't tell us.

[DarrinS]

https://nypost.com/2020/03/13/new-rochelle-gets-drive-thru-coronavirus-testing/

[DMC]

yeah you've never pointed out people editing their posts to correct the same :lol

Yeah you've never accused anyone of anything you do yourself. :lol

[DMC]

https://nypost.com/2020/03/13/new-rochelle-gets-drive-thru-coronavirus-testing/

Any fights in the parking lot yet?

[spurraider21]

Yeah you've never accused anyone of anything you do yourself. :lol
i dont rail on people for editing posts to correct basic spelling/grammar errors and then get flustered when somebody points out that i just did so myself

[DMC]

i dont rail on people for editing posts to correct basic spelling/grammar errors and then get flustered when somebody points out that i just did so myself

So you want to cherrypick your sanctimony.

[Winehole23]

So you want to cherrypick your sanctimony.Yours being broad spectrum sanctimony, by contrast.

[Monostradamus]

https://i.ibb.co/F6wF3mK/B1-F86-C7-C-980-E-4-F64-B78-B-3-F044-B38-D615.jpg

[boutons_deux]

Trump on the Coronavirus Emergency:

'I Don’t Take Responsibility'

Surrounded by sycophantic officials and executives, the president sang his own praises while declaring a national emergency.

main thrust of the announcement

the Trump administration has taken bold, proactive steps to forge what Vice President Mike Pence called “a historic public-private partnership” to expand coronavirus testing.

White House’s new coronavirus response coordinator Deborah Birx put it, is

“proactive, leaning forward, aggressive, trying to stay ahead of the curve.” :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

the slow and error-filled (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/06/coronavirus-testing-failure-123166) rollout of testing in the US has been the most critical failure of the federal government response to the pandemic thus far.

More than a month after the first confirmed case on American soil,

the press and social media are full of accounts of patients still unable to get tested even with doctors’ requests.

Even today, in response to repeated questions from reporters,

no one in the administration could say precisely when sufficient tests will be available.

A key purpose of today’s press conference was to convince you that none of this is the administration’s fault.

“I don’t take responsibility at all,” Trump said

“Because we were given a set of circumstances and we were given rules, regulations, and specifications from a different time.” :lol

Trump’s new line: that excessive red tape, not the administration’s own fecklessness, has hampered US testing capabilities.

Trump’s false claim (https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/04/politics/donald-trump-obama-testing-lamar-alexander/index.html) from last week that a rule adopted by the Obama administration had slowed the government’s response.

In fact, there was no such rule.

Just a week ago, Trump was declaring that “anybody that wants a test can get a test.”

At least now he admits that this isn’t true.

The lie has shifted from

“it’s not a problem”

to “it’s not my problem.”

“When you say me—I didn’t do it; we have a group of people,” the president said.

“You say we did that, I don’t know anything about it.” :lol

after posing for a picture with a Brazilian official who has tested positive for the virus?

“There was somebody that they say has it, I have no idea who he is.” :lol

Trump was eager to take credit for restricting travel from China and Europe, which, he claimed, “saved a lot of lives.” :lol

it’s far too late for any travel restrictions to have much impact.

the government’s continued failure to provide anywhere close to enough tests is utterly scandalous

“When you compare what we’ve done to other areas of the world, it’s pretty incredible,” Trump said today. :lol :lol :lol

That’s true, of course.

Just not in the way he intended.

https://www.wired.com/story/covid19-trump-coronavirus-press-conference/

"what we’ve done to other areas of the world" ? :lol WTF is he talking about? :lol

[Reck]

^ Those are wonderful ads that play themselves.

[ElNono]

I ain't got much...had to end up buying paper towels, but, the old lady won't let me use it. "We're not flushing that...it won't go down properly."

I got a roll in the Cadillac from like 20 years ago. I'm saving it for last resorts.

"Do you still have that roll in your car, Dale?"

Doesn't forget a fuckin' thing.

"No."

Baby wipes are an option

[phxspurfan]

Emergency = tax dollars.

Fed liquidity = private money from the Federal reserve into liquidity (inter-bank lending) markets, although technically they putting up fiat money if memory serves. pledging assets on the books. Will spend some time looking at the mechanics now that I try and explain it, I realize my understanding is not as solid as I usually prefer.

Markets seemed to like it. Administration finally doing something decisive other than lying about everything. +10%. Almost certain to plummet as bad news trickles in over the weekend, IMO.

apparently it was in response to a liquidity crisis. The treasury note was crashing, almost at 0 on the 10 year note. Banks were worried about the crash creating a financial crisis (then they might stop lending, fearing for a run on banks/ATMs/more liquidity contagion). Call it QE4, 5 or whatever.

[phxspurfan]

If he or Pence or Barr were infected from this week's meetings, they wouldn't tell us.

But we would start to see very soon.

[ChumpDumper]

Trump on the Coronavirus Emergency:

'I Don’t Take Responsibility'

Surrounded by sycophantic officials and executives, the president sang his own praises while declaring a national emergency.

main thrust of the announcement

the Trump administration has taken bold, proactive steps to forge what Vice President Mike Pence called “a historic public-private partnership” to expand coronavirus testing.

White House’s new coronavirus response coordinator Deborah Birx put it, is

“proactive, leaning forward, aggressive, trying to stay ahead of the curve.” :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

the slow and error-filled (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/06/coronavirus-testing-failure-123166) rollout of testing in the US has been the most critical failure of the federal government response to the pandemic thus far.

More than a month after the first confirmed case on American soil,

the press and social media are full of accounts of patients still unable to get tested even with doctors’ requests.

Even today, in response to repeated questions from reporters,

no one in the administration could say precisely when sufficient tests will be available.

A key purpose of today’s press conference was to convince you that none of this is the administration’s fault.

“I don’t take responsibility at all,” Trump said

“Because we were given a set of circumstances and we were given rules, regulations, and specifications from a different time.” :lol

Trump’s new line: that excessive red tape, not the administration’s own fecklessness, has hampered US testing capabilities.

Trump’s false claim (https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/04/politics/donald-trump-obama-testing-lamar-alexander/index.html) from last week that a rule adopted by the Obama administration had slowed the government’s response.

In fact, there was no such rule.

Just a week ago, Trump was declaring that “anybody that wants a test can get a test.”

At least now he admits that this isn’t true.

The lie has shifted from

“it’s not a problem”

to “it’s not my problem.”

“When you say me—I didn’t do it; we have a group of people,” the president said.

“You say we did that, I don’t know anything about it.” :lol

after posing for a picture with a Brazilian official who has tested positive for the virus?

“There was somebody that they say has it, I have no idea who he is.” :lol

Trump was eager to take credit for restricting travel from China and Europe, which, he claimed, “saved a lot of lives.” :lol

it’s far too late for any travel restrictions to have much impact.

the government’s continued failure to provide anywhere close to enough tests is utterly scandalous

“When you compare what we’ve done to other areas of the world, it’s pretty incredible,” Trump said today. :lol :lol :lol

That’s true, of course.

Just not in the way he intended.

https://www.wired.com/story/covid19-trump-coronavirus-press-conference/

"what we’ve done to other areas of the world" ? :lol WTF is he talking about? :lol



Great job, chief! Mind opening!

[boutons_deux]

It's a LONG article

America Isn’t Testing for the Most Alarming Coronavirus Cases

In many states, testing rules are so strict that doctors may not notice a community outbreak until it’s too late.

“The doctor said he wanted to test me, but the San Diego County Department of Health criteria wouldn’t allow him to,”

But the majority of Americans still cannot get tested, as interviews with doctors, patients, and dozens of state public-health officials reveal.

a chaotic patchwork of rules now governs who can and cannot get a COVID-19 test.

In many states, symptomatic patients still cannot get tested for the coronavirus unless they meet certain limited criteria—

even if their doctor wants to test them.

In at least 13 states, the rules effectively discourage doctors from testing patients who have no known ties to existing cases—

exactly the kind of “community case” that would signal that the pandemic has reached a dangerous new stage in a city or region, and

that the virus is now spreading among strangers.

The rules are set by states, counties, and cities, as well as by individual hospitals and health systems.

And while many are based on guidelines published by the CDC,

their enforcement can vary profoundly on a state-by-state, and

even hospital-by-hospital, basis.

a city or region’s first community case may not qualify for a test, especially if the person is not sick enough to be hospitalized.

“If those are the requirements, you will miss almost all mild symptomatic transmission, and

only become aware [that the coronavirus] is present in your community

when it gets into a group of vulnerable people and starts killing them,”

doctors must sometimes involve dozens of people throughout a sprawling hospital bureaucracy before they can authorize a single test.

The rules have prevented medical staff from getting themselves tested

United States is still greatly understating the number of people nationwide who are sick with COVID-19

estimates of the outbreak using statistical (https://www.cedars-sinai.org/newsroom/study-estimates-covid-19-may-have-infected-over-9000-in-us/) and genetic (https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/03/washington-state-risks-seeing-explosion-in-coronavirus-without-dramatic-action-new-analysis-says/) models suggest that thousands of people are already sick.

could only verify that 16,471 people have been tested for the coronavirus in the United States.

By this point in its own COVID-19 outbreak, South Korea had tested more than 100,000 people for the illness.

in a state or city where the coronavirus is not yet known to be spreading, the rules may keep doctors from noticing that it has started.

If officials say there is no evidence of community transmision, it may only be because they aren’t looking for it.

she still must involve several other departments as well as hospital administration before she can test a single patient.

“It’s not as easy as taking a swab.

It requires the involvement, I kid you not, of 40 people.

If that’s not a barrier to care, I don’t know what is,”

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2020/03/who-gets-tested-coronavirus/607999/

As if Trash's MISmanagement alone weren't bad enough, it sounds operations at the community level are also pretty fucked up.

[boutons_deux]

Jack Ma with an amazing power play

Jack Ma Offers to Supply the US With Covid-19 Tests and Masks


The donation from the Alibaba cofounder cleverly highlights the weakness in Washington's response to the pandemic.

https://www.wired.com/story/jack-ma-supply-us-covid-19-tests-masks/ (https://www.wired.com/story/jack-ma-supply-us-covid-19-tests-masks/)

[LkrFan]

There's a Tweet for everything
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/398887965302091776?s=19

:lol

[hater]

There's a Tweet for everything
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/398887965302091776?s=19

:lol

the coronavirus has reached his cerebral cortex

[Winehole23]

Voluntold as opposed to volunteered.

https://www.wired.com/story/coronavirus-donald-trump-google-website/9

[LkrFan]

the coronavirus has reached his cerebral cortex

What is your honest opinion about this exchange?
https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1238571640952422400?s=09

I. Am. Speechless. Wow

[phxspurfan]

Jack Ma with an amazing power play

Jack Ma Offers to Supply the US With Covid-19 Tests and Masks


The donation from the Alibaba cofounder cleverly highlights the weakness in Washington's response to the pandemic.

https://www.wired.com/story/jack-ma-supply-us-covid-19-tests-masks/ (https://www.wired.com/story/jack-ma-supply-us-covid-19-tests-masks/)


China making a full reversal on this one, making us look foolish

[Winehole23]

Trump is bs-ing his way through this, like he's done with everything else.

[pgardn]

Come Monday gonna have all these millions of tests & gonna be huntin' high & low for Americans to submit to one.

These tests help us not only now, but to understand how curiously infectious disease gets passed on when this happens again.
We might be better prepared, so we don’t waste resources on things we don’t need to. I thought the (R) team was all about not wasting money. I certainly am.

[boutons_deux]

Trump is bs-ing his way through this, like he's done with everything else.

Did you catch his talk at the CDC totally hilarious insane bulshit

[LkrFan]

Here's the full Tweet Thread
https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1238571640952422400?s=09
https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1238572008415338498?s=19
https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1238572140389175297?s=19
https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1238585282129211399?s=19

Defend your boy. I believe you are at least 60. That means you are vulnerable to this virus. He had a team of professionals that were monitoring this and other deadly viruses that threaten our way of living. What did he do? He fired them! WTF?

And instead of taking the blame, he deflects. "It's not my fault. Obama this Obama that."
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1238410051758575617?s=19

Well Obama is not POTUS right now - the Orange Russian ASSet is! SMFH.

We got ER Doctors, Nurses and Surgeons - nationwide - who are all vulnerable, like you are. Why? If anyone exhibits symptoms, where will they go first? The ER. EMTALA says ERs can't turn people away - even the uninsured. COVID-19 can expose the very people charged with saving lives.

And the Orange menace had the nerve to call it a hoax just a few days ago. Now his inept administration is scrambling to do something last minute when Tom Bossert and HIS Department of Homeland Security would have been working on preventing this from effecting the United States in the first place.

Defend your boy to the death if you need to. I thought I saw it all with 9/11. This is worse. MUCH worse. SMH

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/JeffLieber/status/1238569429174063105?s=19
SMH

[LkrFan]

Chris what are your thoughts on this clip?
https://twitter.com/JeffLieber/status/1238612538008322049?s=09

This is impeachable, but we know the Rs won't do their jobs. The Orange menace should be in the clink tbh. This clip is disturbing to say the least.

[DarrinS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-skA4GhVX7k

[Trainwreck2100]

Here's the full Tweet Thread
https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1238571640952422400?s=09
https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1238572008415338498?s=19
https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1238572140389175297?s=19
https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1238585282129211399?s=19

Defend your boy. I believe you are at least 60. That means you are vulnerable to this virus. He had a team of professionals that were monitoring this and other deadly viruses that threaten our way of living. What did he do? He fired them! WTF?

And instead of taking the blame, he deflects. "It's not my fault. Obama this Obama that."
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1238410051758575617?s=19

Well Obama is not POTUS right now - the Orange Russian ASSet is! SMFH.

We got ER Doctors, Nurses and Surgeons - nationwide - who are all vulnerable, like you are. Why? If anyone exhibits symptoms, where will they go first? The ER. EMTALA says ERs can't turn people away - even the uninsured. COVID-19 can expose the very people charged with saving lives.

And the Orange menace had the nerve to call it a hoax just a few days ago. Now his inept administration is scrambling to do something last minute when Tom Bossert and HIS Department of Homeland Security would have been working on preventing this from effecting the United States in the first place.

Defend your boy to the death if you need to. I thought I saw it all with 9/11. This is worse. MUCH worse. SMH

He's actually trying to gaslight all of America

[Thread]

These tests help us not only now, but to understand how curiously infectious disease gets passed on when this happens again.
We might be better prepared, so we don’t waste resources on things we don’t need to. I thought the (R) team was all about not wasting money. I certainly am.

Sorry to be late in response, peeg...

but, it's difficult to take any of this (your points) serious now. Everything is skewed to frustrate & defeat this President. There is no clear signal to persevere, just to cause trouble & defeat..."gotcha." "got 'em." To bludgeon & draw blood.

[TheGreatYacht]

https://youtu.be/crUXWSD-MjU

[TheGreatYacht]

Sorry to be late in response, peeg...

but, it's difficult to take any of this (your points) serious now. Everything is skewed to frustrate & defeat this President. There is no clear signal to persevere, just to cause trouble & defeat..."gotcha." "got 'em." To bludgeon & draw blood.

Trump did this shit to himself. He should have stuck to his guns and keep saying that Coronavirus is a hoax. What a fucking shill.

Daddy Trump says Coronavirus is real so now all the Trumptards have emptied the grocery stores of meat. Retards.

[Thread]

What is your honest opinion about this exchange?
https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1238571640952422400?s=09

I. Am. Speechless. Wow

PBS asked for a question from her & the old man granted it. He didn't have to, he was not forced. Perhaps he even was pleased. They have a history.

Everybody & their sister know rule #1:::"You hit him he's going to hit back 10x harder."

Rule #2? Obey all rules.

He was waiting on her.

I've no sympathy for her.

[Thread]

Trump did this shit to himself. He should have stuck to his guns and keep saying that Coronavirus is a hoax. What a fucking shill.

Daddy Trump says Coronavirus is real so now all the Trumptards have emptied the grocery stores of meat. Retards.

The only thing he did to himself was leave Hillary dead in the ground.

[DMC]

Sorry to be late in response, peeg...

but, it's difficult to take any of this (your points) serious now. Everything is skewed to frustrate & defeat this President. There is no clear signal to persevere, just to cause trouble & defeat..."gotcha." "got 'em." To bludgeon & draw blood.

They wax philosophical and seem to take a clinical viewpoint then it just nosedives near the end of their take into a screaming fit against Trump. It's actually quite funny.

[DMC]

https://youtu.be/crUXWSD-MjU

Aren't there enough posters here running this conspiracy schtick into the ground already?

[Chris]

Chris what are your thoughts on this clip?

Another Democrat lying his ass off because Trump is cutting off their spigots.

You want Trump to die.

You want Trump to go to jail.

You are seeking to vindicate your wrath, and Media is happy to hold your hand.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1238631054711324673?s=19

[RandomGuy]

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Didn't see much in the brief detante that was worth bothering with. Back to not bothering with it, other than be minor respect of this one message. fwtw.

[DMX7]

https://twitter.com/JeffLieber/status/1238569429174063105?s=19
SMH

:wow

[DMX7]

The buck stops with Mike Pence.

[phxspurfan]

Posted 3/9 in Italy, around Milan

1237142891077697538


2/ First, Lumbardy is the most developed region in Italy and it has a extraordinary good healthcare, I have worked in Italy, UK and Aus and don’t make the mistake to think that what is happening is happening in a 3rd world country.


3/ The current situation is difficult to imagine and numbers do not explain things at all. Our hospitals are overwhelmed by Covid-19, they are running 200% capacity

4/ We’ve stopped all routine, all ORs have been converted to ITUs and they are now diverting or not treating all other emergencies like trauma or strokes. There are hundreds of pts with severe resp failure and many of them do not have access to anything above a reservoir mask.

5/ Patients above 65 or younger with comorbidities are not even assessed by ITU, I am not saying not tubed, I’m saying not assessed and no ITU staff attends when they arrest. Staff are working as much as they can but they are starting to get sick and are emotionally overwhelmed.

6/ My friends call me in tears because they see people dying in front of them and they con only offer some oxygen. Ortho and pathologists are being given a leaflet and sent to see patients on NIV. PLEASE STOP, READ THIS AGAIN AND THINK.

7/ We have seen the same pattern in different areas a week apart, and there is no reason that in a few weeks it won’t be the same everywhere, this is the pattern:

8/ 1)A few positive cases, first mild measures, people are told to avoid ED but still hang out in groups, everyone says not to panick
2)Some moderate resp failures and a few severe ones that need tube, but regular access to ED is significantly reduced so everything looks great

9/ 3)Tons of patients with moderate resp failure, that overtime deteriorate to saturate ICUs first, then NIVs, then CPAP hoods, then even O2.
4)Staff gets sick so it gets difficult to cover for shifts, mortality spikes also from all other causes that can’t be treated properly.

10/ Everything about how to treat them is online but the only things that will make a difference are: do not be afraid of massively strict measures to keep people safe,

11/ if governments won’t do this at least keep your family safe, your loved ones with history of cancer or diabetes or any transplant will not be tubed if they need it even if they are young. By safe I mean YOU do not attend them and YOU decide who does and YOU teach them how to.

12/ Another typical attitude is read and listen to people saying things like this and think “that’s bad dude” and then go out for dinner because you think you’ll be safe.

13/ We have seen it, you won’t be if you don’t take it seriously. I really hope it won’t be as bad as here but prepare.

[phxspurfan]

Coronavirus: Why You Must Act Now

https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca


When you’re done reading the article, this is what you’ll take away:

The coronavirus is coming to you.
It’s coming at an exponential speed: gradually, and then suddenly.
It’s a matter of days. Maybe a week or two.
When it does, your healthcare system will be overwhelmed.
Your fellow citizens will be treated in the hallways.
Exhausted healthcare workers will break down. Some will die.
They will have to decide which patient gets the oxygen and which one dies.
The only way to prevent this is social distancing today. Not tomorrow. Today.
That means keeping as many people home as possible, starting now.

This is an issue: You only know the official cases, not the true ones. But you need to know the true ones. How can you estimate the true ones?

First, through deaths. If you have deaths in your region, you can use that to guess the number of true current cases. We know approximately how long it takes for that person to go from catching the virus to dying on average (17.3 days). That means the person who died on 2/29 in Washington State probably got infected around 2/12.

Then, you know the mortality rate. For this scenario, I’m using 1% (we’ll discuss later the details). That means that, around 2/12, there were already around ~100 cases in the area (of which only one ended up in death 17.3 days later).

Washington state has today 22 deaths. With that quick calculation, you get ~16,000 true coronavirus cases today. As many as the official cases in Italy and Iran combined.





good charts in there, but basically what it says is if you lock the city down / have people socially distance early and for about a month, that provides hospitals enough time to properly handle serious cases (with intubation, ventilators, etc), and much much fewer people die.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1238706697746681856?s=19

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1238736626018328576?s=19

[ElNono]

Another Democrat lying his ass off because Trump is cutting off their spigots.

You want Trump to die.

You want Trump to go to jail.

You are seeking to vindicate your wrath, and Media is happy to hold your hand.

Sounds like you, Shillary and Fox News, tbh...

[hater]

https://ourworldindata.org/uploads/2020/03/Covid-19-CFR-by-age-vs.-US-Seasonal-Flu-3-1536x1057.png

lot of good shit here

shows USA is fucking behind the ball on this


https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus

[hater]

https://twitter.com/ian56789/status/1238799883856945152?s=21

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/89256002_829338167571225_5568016188312649728_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=105&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=6Z5sqzJ23pMAX9xli9J&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=36bb2fd2807c02bceff3433c2e85d9b6&oe=5E92CCEC

[boutons_deux]

Critics remember Susan Collins’ insistence pandemic flu funding be cut from 2009 stimulus package


https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/collinz.jpg

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/critics-remember-susan-collins-insistence-pandemic-flu-funding-be-cut-from-2009-stimulus-package/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3955&recip_id=298460&list_id=1 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/critics-remember-susan-collins-insistence-pandemic-flu-funding-be-cut-from-2009-stimulus-package/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3955&recip_id=298460&list_id=1)

2009?

"59 million Americans contracted the H1N1 virus,

265,000 were hospitalized as a result, and

12,000 died."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic_in_the_United_States

[Splits]

Explain to me how an actual National Emergency frees up $50 billion or so, but we can 'inject' $1.5 Trillion in a whim to the financial sector?

(sorry, this post isn't about loving or hating trump)

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/3/13/21178457/1-5-trillion-stimulus-loan-fed-federal-reserve

[boutons_deux]

GOP LAWMAKER WHO VOTED AGAINST PAID SICK LEAVE IN FLORIDA TAKES PAID LEAVE FROM CONGRESS

https://theintercept.imgix.net/wp-uploads/sites/1/2020/03/GettyImages-1192997240-1584047346-e1584047426489.jpg?auto=compress%2Cformat&q=90&fit=crop&w=1440&h=720
https://theintercept.com/2020/03/12/matt-gaetz-florida-paid-sick-leave-coronavirus/ (https://theintercept.com/2020/03/12/matt-gaetz-florida-paid-sick-leave-coronavirus/)

[hater]

its a handout to corporations(banks) plain and simple

they dont have to pay the “loan”(handout), the Fed just keeps the “bonds” are which could be worthless if the economy reaches a depression

remeber the bankd are “too big to fail” to which means they dont have to pay back any of this

[LkrFan]

Another Democrat lying his ass off because Trump is cutting off their spigots.

You want Trump to die.

You want Trump to go to jail.

You are seeking to vindicate your wrath, and Media is happy to hold your hand.

Chris this is silly and you know it. I don't like Trump at all. I don't want him as POTUS and I want him to be brought to justice for his many crimes, true...while he is ALIVE. He deserves to have everyone who him and his family has made suffer see HIM suffer. After he's suffered, then I'll tell him:
https://pics.me.me/you-have-my-permission-to-die-when-your-meme-does-43439372.png

:lol

[LkrFan]

PBS asked for a question from her & the old man granted it. He didn't have to, he was not forced. Perhaps he even was pleased. They have a history.

Everybody & their sister know rule #1:::"You hit him he's going to hit back 10x harder."

Rule #2? Obey all rules.

He was waiting on her.

I've no sympathy for her.

I didn't ask for sympathy for her. I asked for honest thoughts on the merits of her questioning. She is asking the hard hitting questions that every POTUS should stand up and take.

His actions of firing the very people, no, professionals and experts - that could have prevented this pandemic in the first place.

Who cares if he "hits back at his critics" or not? I don't care. I care that the most powerful man in the world made a catastrophic mistake that are gonna cost thousands of lives.

More thoughts on the infamous exchange
KVhgKgkai5c

I see Trump defenders deflecting blame off of him. He even said himself that Barack Obama was responsible in 2013:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/398887965302091776?s=19

And he was right. Leaders take responsibility when things go well. They sure as hell better take responsibility when things go awry. He needs to take his own 2013 advice.

PS - don't think I don't notice when you glance over my posts calling out hypocrisy of Trump and his base. Probably the vast majority of his base are vulnerable RIGHT NOW to COVID-19. FACT. Especially the elderly (who may be underinsured) and the poor (who are uninsured). They better be careful out there. Someone can cough on you or sneeze on you or even just talk to you within 5 feet (we know droplets of spittle come out every time we talk). If that happens from someone who has COVID-19, and doesn't even know it, you're f:lolcked.

You can thank David Dennison for that.

[LkrFan]

GOP LAWMAKER WHO VOTED AGAINST PAID SICK LEAVE IN FLORIDA TAKES PAID LEAVE FROM CONGRESS

https://theintercept.imgix.net/wp-uploads/sites/1/2020/03/GettyImages-1192997240-1584047346-e1584047426489.jpg?auto=compress%2Cformat&q=90&fit=crop&w=1440&h=720
https://theintercept.com/2020/03/12/matt-gaetz-florida-paid-sick-leave-coronavirus/ (https://theintercept.com/2020/03/12/matt-gaetz-florida-paid-sick-leave-coronavirus/)

:lol

[LkrFan]

When is the next Trump rally? Surely he wants to defend himself from the nerves of reporters correctly calling him out.

Question: if he has a rally in your city within the next 60 days, which of you Trumpers will go? Afterall, COVID-19 is a hoax, as he said.

:downspin:

[Thread]

When is the next Trump rally? Surely he wants to defend himself from the nerves of reporters correctly calling him out.

Question: if he has a rally in your city within the next 60 days, which of you Trumpers will go? Afterall, COVID-19 is a hoax, as he said.

:downspin:

I'll go.

[picnroll]

When is the next Trump rally? Surely he wants to defend himself from the nerves of reporters correctly calling him out.

Question: if he has a rally in your city within the next 60 days, which of you Trumpers will go? Afterall, COVID-19 is a hoax, as he said.

:downspin:

Hopefully all of his supporters will go.

[LkrFan]

I live less than an hour from the WH. This is what my family and friends are dealing with, live and in living color:
https://twitter.com/riccimike/status/1238828716295442439?s=19

Peep the date/time of the Tweet. Of course this is personal. I do blame Trump even if his base won't.

Funny part is he's not anymore safe than I am. We all live in the DMV. Secret Service can't protect him from this shiiiiiiiiiiiiit! Keep shaking hands David. I dare you! :lmao

[LkrFan]

I'll go.

Cubby we have different political beliefs. I accepted that years ago. But as much as you my dude, I can't believe this for a second. Why? Because he wouldn't do it for you or no one else.

Where's your proof LkrFan? Vietnam. He did not have bone spurs. His family friend podiatrist lied to the US government.

Someone's son (who was poor) took a bullet for him in Vietnam. All because he wouldn't be willing to die for our country.

Yet you would put your health/life in jeopardy for him. I don't believe you would.

There is no real cure for this. There's no polio vaccine, or anything like that for COVID-19. Doctors are just treating symptoms and hoping for the best, basically. That's why people are dying. And the numbers will rise, unfortunately. Think about that.

[baseline bum]

Cubby we have different political beliefs. I accepted that years ago. But as much as you my dude, I can't believe this for a second. Why? Because he wouldn't do it for you or no one else.

Where's your proof LkrFan? Vietnam. He did not have bone spurs. His family friend podiatrist lied to the US government.

Someone's son (who was poor) took a bullet for him in Vietnam. All because he wouldn't be willing to die for our country.

Yet you would put your health/life in jeopardy for him. I don't believe you would.

There is no real cure for this. There's no polio vaccine, or anything like that for COVID-19. Doctors are just treating symptoms and hoping for the best, basically. That's why people are dying. And the numbers will rise, unfortunately. Think about that.

culburn never defends his fandom

[Thread]

Cubby we have different political beliefs. I accepted that years ago. But as much as you my dude, I can't believe this for a second. Why? Because he wouldn't do it for you or no one else.

Where's your proof LkrFan? Vietnam. He did not have bone spurs. His family friend podiatrist lied to the US government.

Someone's son (who was poor) took a bullet for him in Vietnam. All because he wouldn't be willing to die for our country.

Yet you would put your health/life in jeopardy for him. I don't believe you would.

There is no real cure for this. There's no polio vaccine, or anything like that for COVID-19. Doctors are just treating symptoms and hoping for the best, basically. That's why people are dying. And the numbers will rise, unfortunately. Think about that.

Because once I side a man I ain't walkin' away,,,ever.

[pgardn]

Because once I side a man I ain't walkin' away,,,ever.

Germany after WW1:
Broke and in tatters with what the citizens were told and convinced was a horrible treaty.
Here is where a leader, who could produce proper scape goats and undying devotion, could thrive.

It takes blind devotion.

It can happen anywhere. Any of us could make proper Nazis, some of us would be heros.

[boutons_deux]

Germany after WW1:
Broke and in tatters with what the citizens were told and convinced was a horrible treaty.


the WWI extremely punitive, vindictive treaty led Germany directly to Hitler and WWII, so most historians call it a bad treaty.

[boutons_deux]

the WWI extremely punitive, vindictive treaty led Germany directly to Hitler and WWII, so most historians call it a bad treaty.

and the American oligarchy's impoverishing the oligarchy led directly to the non-oligarchy, giving up on "democracy" and Capitalism, to elect Trash as "now for something completely different", and they were CONNED.

[Thread]

Germany after WW1:
Broke and in tatters with what the citizens were told and convinced was a horrible treaty.
Here is where a leader, who could produce proper scape goats and undying devotion, could thrive.

It takes blind devotion.

It can happen anywhere. Any of us could make proper Nazis, some of us would be heros.


& the (world) learned a painful & infinitely wise lesson after WW1...don't starve 'em/loser out forever.

"Let 'em up easy, boys." Abe Lincoln after the Civil War. Lincoln's command had obviously been forgotten.

[Thread]

the WWI extremely punitive, vindictive treaty led Germany directly to Hitler and WWII, so most historians call it a bad treaty.

Bingo!

[pgardn]

the WWI extremely punitive, vindictive treaty led Germany directly to Hitler and WWII, so most historians call it a bad treaty.

Led directly to Hilter... No.
His rise was very shaky and the Nazi party was not inevitable imo.

But back to the point.
There are leaders who can enlist blind devotion by creating convenient scape goats and the proper message during the right time.

[Thread]

Led directly to Hilter... No.
His rise was very shaky and the Nazi party was not inevitable imo.

But back to the point.
There are leaders who can enlist blind devotion by creating convenient scape goats and the proper message during the right time.

...Obama/CNN during that Trayvon materiel.

[LkrFan]

culburn never defends his fandom

Oh I know :lol

[pgardn]

& the (world) learned a painful & infinitely wise lesson after WW1...don't starve 'em/loser out forever.

"Let 'em up easy, boys." Abe Lincoln after the Civil War. Lincoln's command had obviously been forgotten.

So you have labeled yourself as a persecuted victim after 8 years of Obama?

edit

Bingo, I hit it before you posted it.

[pgardn]

So Thread you figure it would be much better to be black than white during the Obama years?

[pgardn]

& the (world) learned a painful & infinitely wise lesson after WW1...don't starve 'em/loser out forever.

"Let 'em up easy, boys." Abe Lincoln after the Civil War. Lincoln's command had obviously been forgotten.

Or...

Firebomb them into oblivion, devastate them with two atomic weapons, and after you have crushed their brains they are allies forever when you remake their society.

[Thread]

So you have labeled yourself as a persecuted victim after 8 years of Obama?

edit

Bingo, I hit it before you posted it.

No. "Nazi" was cited, so, I offered my opine.

[Thread]

Or...

Firebomb them into oblivion, devastate them with two atomic weapons, and after you have crushed their brains they are allies forever when you remake their society.

Exactly.

[Thread]

So Thread you figure it would be much better to be black than white during the Obama years?

Only when O was on the war path.

[pgardn]

No. "Nazi" was cited, so, I offered my opine.

You are not a Nazi and never will be.

Do you feel like a victim?

[DarrinS]

https://www.ibtimes.com/russians-hack-johns-hopkins-coronavirus-map-steal-user-information-2939424

[pgardn]

Exactly.

Im Sure China and Russia have that in their playbook as well.
Ussr did in WWII. Only it did NOT work. Ask Reagan. Ask East Germany, Poland, etc...

[Thread]

Im Sure China and Russia have that in their playbook as well.
Ussr did in WWII. Only it did NOT work. Ask Reagan. Ask East Germany, Poland, etc...

Russia gave 10+ million of their people during WW2. I know it doesn't count as much as our 250k, but, they're still dead.

[pgardn]

It really is serious because of the social disruption it appears to require in order to avoid overwhelming hospitals. Deaths will occur just like the flu, but we don’t need a spike in infections because this thing is extraordinary in its transmission.

If people in the entire country, not just a few states (decimated by a hurricane) is involved in everyday work, social, provision disruption, it’s a big deal. I have never experienced this. Have you? And it’s basically to avoid a spike that overwhelms our medical facilities. Because this will spread.

I already have 3 friends being tested today thru the end of the week because of symptoms. A pilot and 2 people who travel quite a bit. So depending on the tests their family members will self quarantine on an on, repeat. It will pass but... just keep repeating the above for a few weeks or a month. I saw one of these people a week and a half ago before symptoms and before the suspected trip to Spain. Anecdotes like mine will begin.

Pilot tested +
Family self quarantined but thankfully he does not appear to have extreme symptoms so he will stay at home with them. They are still unsure whether they want to test other family members.

The other 2 did not get tested and are waiting the symptoms out at home. This is all in Texas.

But, But, pgardnknows a pilot. DMC world.

[hater]

Russia gave 10+ million of their people during WW2. I know it doesn't count as much as our 250k, but, they're still dead.

try 20 million

[pgardn]

Russia gave 10+ million of their people during WW2. I know it doesn't count as much as our 250k, but, they're still dead.

The point was they crushed the life out of Eastern Europe and what they did with the remaining shell did not work out like the US (remaking Japan and Germany) So it’s not a hard fast rule.

[Spurs Homer]

Time to get your t-shirts today- they have a caption of :

”we got puerto-rico’d”

[TimDunkem]

try 20 million

And that's the lowest of estimates.

[baseline bum]

This thread will be fun in a week

[DarrinS]

I did my shopping before all this panic buying started, but I only bought my normal supply.

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2020/03/14/h-e-b-closing-all-stores-early-to-allow-time-to-restock-shelves-no-need-to-panic-officials-say/

I'll wait for panic shoppers to do their thing for a week, then I'll go buy my normal grocery list again.

[lefty]

:lmao Mexico will close their borders

:

[boutons_deux]

:lmao Mexico will close their borders

:

inbound or outbound?

[AaronY]

World really went downhill after the World Trade Center. You know Quasimodo predicted all this.

[baseline bum]

World really went downhill after the World Trade Center. You know Quasimodo predicted all this.

Hunchback of Notre Dame, you got the halfback and quarterback too.

[Mitch]

Russia gave 10+ million of their people during WW2. I know it doesn't count as much as our 250k, but, they're still dead.

How's life, cub? Keeping away from crowds until the Wuhan flu settles die for?

[Thread]

How's life, cub? Keeping away from crowds until the Wuhan flu settles die for?

I'm a homebody by instinct, so, it's nothing new, but, I do miss the sports.

[LkrFan]

:lmao Mexico will close their borders

:

We got less cases than US and Canada tbh :rollin :lmao :rollin

[Thread]

try 20 million

& (we) won't even cite 'em on D-Day festivities.

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1238596474151239687?s=09

:wow

[TimDunkem]

& (we) won't even cite 'em on D-Day festivities.

They didn't invade France, retard.

[baseline bum]

:lmao Mexico will close their borders

:

Maybe they really will build a wall and pay for it.

[boutons_deux]

Every crisis is an invitation for the oligarchy and militarized police state to ramp up their power and control.

No doubt that the oligarchy's Best and Brightest predators are dreaming up ways to extract $Bs from the covid-19 crisis

Clearly the Repugs are going to hose $Bs to BigCorp, pushing the govt deeper into debt which they will Pay For by cutting govt services For The People.

Disaster Capitalism, it NEVER fails.

[Monostradamus]

https://i.ibb.co/W59NJTK/59-C1946-C-D31-C-4856-A399-B09304-C32-CCE.jpg

[boutons_deux]

CDC's 'worst-case scenario' estimates for coronavirus spread in U.S. obtained by the New York Times (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/3/13/1927078/-The-New-York-Times-has-obtained-CDC-s-worst-case-scenario-estimates)

The Times article reveals the worst-case scenario, but emphasizes that this is what would occur only if there were no mitigation measures taken.

Between 160 million and 214 million people in the U.S. could be infected over the course of the epidemic, according to one projection.

That could last months or even over a year, with infections concentrated in shorter periods, staggered across time in different communities, experts said.

As many as 200,000 to 1.7 million people could die.

And, the calculations based on the C.D.C.’s scenarios suggested,

2.4 million to 21 million people in the U.S. could require hospitalization,

potentially crushing the nation’s medical system, which has only about 925,000 staffed hospital beds (https://www.aha.org/statistics/fast-facts-us-hospitals).

Fewer than a tenth of those are for people who are critically ill.


To be clear, despite the paucity of guidance being provided at the national level, state and local communities are beginning to take action.

And the CDC is revising its modelling accordingly, based on the degree and extent of those mitigation efforts.

The “worst-case” scenario, described above, is therefore not what will occur.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/3/13/1927078/-The-New-York-Times-has-obtained-CDC-s-worst-case-scenario-estimates?detail=emaildkre

Let's say the CDC worst case is 2 or 3 times the actual. I'm so relieved.

[Winehole23]

So true, we shouldn't dwell on what just happened, that's living in the past.

1238877887547097093

[Thread]

They didn't invade France, retard.

You get my drift though.

[Thread]

CDC's 'worst-case scenario' estimates for coronavirus spread in U.S. obtained by the New York Times (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/3/13/1927078/-The-New-York-Times-has-obtained-CDC-s-worst-case-scenario-estimates)

The Times article reveals the worst-case scenario, A. but emphasizes that this is what would occur only if there were no mitigation measures taken.

Between 160 million and 214 million people in the U.S. could be infected over the course of the epidemic, according to one projection.

That could last months or even over a year, with infections concentrated in shorter periods, staggered across time in different communities, experts said.

As many as 200,000 to 1.7 million people could die.

And, the calculations based on the C.D.C.’s scenarios suggested,

2.4 million to 21 million people in the U.S. could require hospitalization,

potentially crushing the nation’s medical system, which has only about 925,000 staffed hospital beds (https://www.aha.org/statistics/fast-facts-us-hospitals).

Fewer than a tenth of those are for people who are critically ill.


To be clear, despite the paucity of guidance being provided at the national level, state and local communities are beginning to take action.

And the CDC is revising its modelling accordingly, based on the degree and extent of those mitigation efforts.

B. The “worst-case” scenario, described above, is therefore not what will occur.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/3/13/1927078/-The-New-York-Times-has-obtained-CDC-s-worst-case-scenario-estimates?detail=emaildkre

Let's say the CDC worst case is 2 or 3 times the actual. I'm so relieved.








A. I'm just relieved we're mitigating our asses off.

B. That takes all the panic out of it.

[boutons_deux]

So true, we shouldn't dwell on what just happened, that's living in the past.

1238877887547097093

bullshit, what happened in the past, like 8+ weeks ago, Trump and his fucking so-called govt NOT reacting to the Chinese disaster, is exactly why USA is in the shit today.

[RandomGuy]

Maybe they really will build a wall and pay for it.

(snorts coffee)

[RandomGuy]

CDC's 'worst-case scenario' estimates for coronavirus spread in U.S. obtained by the New York Times (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/3/13/1927078/-The-New-York-Times-has-obtained-CDC-s-worst-case-scenario-estimates)

The Times article reveals the worst-case scenario, but emphasizes that this is what would occur only if there were no mitigation measures taken.

Between 160 million and 214 million people in the U.S. could be infected over the course of the epidemic, according to one projection.

That could last months or even over a year, with infections concentrated in shorter periods, staggered across time in different communities, experts said.

As many as 200,000 to 1.7 million people could die.

And, the calculations based on the C.D.C.’s scenarios suggested,

2.4 million to 21 million people in the U.S. could require hospitalization,

potentially crushing the nation’s medical system, which has only about 925,000 staffed hospital beds (https://www.aha.org/statistics/fast-facts-us-hospitals).

Fewer than a tenth of those are for people who are critically ill.


To be clear, despite the paucity of guidance being provided at the national level, state and local communities are beginning to take action.

And the CDC is revising its modelling accordingly, based on the degree and extent of those mitigation efforts.

The “worst-case” scenario, described above, is therefore not what will occur.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/3/13/1927078/-The-New-York-Times-has-obtained-CDC-s-worst-case-scenario-estimates?detail=emaildkre

Let's say the CDC worst case is 2 or 3 times the actual. I'm so relieved.








That 900,000 beds is misleading. 65% or so occupancy rate now.

Actual number of available beds is more on the order of 320,000

Be generous and assume that one out of 20 will require hospitalization of some sort. (2% fatality rate would imply more than that requiring urgent care)

320,000/.05= 6.4M.

There is your baseline number of people that can be sick at any one time before the system is swamped. The assumption that all beds are available to all patients is not really a good one.

Big problems will be regional shortages.

Fatalities will be magnified once the capacity in any given region is reached, and doctors cannot treat the ones requiring assistance.

[RandomGuy]

https://i.ibb.co/W59NJTK/59-C1946-C-D31-C-4856-A399-B09304-C32-CCE.jpg

They have been warning about a pandemic like this for years.

Trump disbanding the pandemic team... that is going be used to beat him over the head in the election.

[boutons_deux]

Former pandemic team leader details the damage Trump did by kneecapping our response capability

Beth Cameron, the former senior director for global health security and biodefense on the White House National Security Council. When she left her position in 2017, her team was still intact, but the office was dissolved a year later in a move that “mystified” her.

In a health security crisis, speed is essential.

When this new coronavirus emerged, there was no clear White House-led structure to oversee our response, and

we lost valuable time.

Yes, we have capable and committed global and national disease-prevention and management organizations,

as well as state and local health departments, all working overtime now.

But even in prepared cities like Seattle (https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/times-watchdog/washington-public-health-system-was-strained-before-coronavirus-hit/), health systems are struggling to test patients and keep pace with growing caseloads.

The specter of rapid community transmission and exponential growth is real and daunting.


The job of a White House pandemics office would have been to get ahead:

to accelerate the response,

empower experts,

anticipate failures, and

act quickly and transparently to solve problems.
A directorate within the White House would have been responsible

for coordinating the efforts of multiple federal agencies

to make sure the government was backstopping testing capacity,

devising approaches to manufacture and avoid shortages of personal protective equipment,

strengthening U.S. lab capacity to process covid-19 tests, and

expanding the health-care workforce.

The office would galvanize resources to coordinate a robust and seamless (https://www.nti.org/analysis/atomic-pulse/united-states-must-lead-fight-against-coronavirus/) domestic and global response.

It would identify needs among state and local officials, and advise and facilitate regular, focused communication from federal health and scientific experts to provide states and the public with fact-based tools to minimize the virus’s spread.

The White House is uniquely positioned to take into account broader U.S. and global security considerations associated with health emergencies, including their impact on deployed citizens, troops and regional economies, as well as peace and stability.

A White House office would have been able to elevate urgent issues fast, so they didn’t linger or devolve to inaction, as with coronavirus testing in the United States.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/3/13/1927301/-Former-pandemic-team-leader-points-out-the-damage-Trump-did-by-kneecapping-our-response-capability?detail=emaildkre

To paraphrase Trash on health care: "Nobody knew a nationwide health crisis would be so hard"

[boutons_deux]

Trump Blindsides Google With Announcement That It's Building a Nationwide Screening Site (It's Not)


https://gizmodo.com/trump-blindsides-google-with-announcement-that-its-buil-1842323019?utm_source=gizmodo_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2020-03-14

[Winehole23]

bullshit, what happened in the past, like 8+ weeks ago, Trump and his fucking so-called govt NOT reacting to the Chinese disaster, is exactly why USA is in the shit today.

Should have blued it

[Winehole23]

Article on social distancing, now isn't too soon


We are only about 11 days behind Italy and generally on track to repeat what is unfortunately happening there and throughout much of the rest of Europe very soon.https://medium.com/@ariadnelabs/social-distancing-this-is-not-a-snow-day-ac21d7fa78b4

[RandomGuy]

Article on social distancing, now isn't too soon

We are only about 11 days behind Italy and generally on track to repeat what is unfortunately happening there and throughout much of the rest of Europe very soon.
https://medium.com/@ariadnelabs/social-distancing-this-is-not-a-snow-day-ac21d7fa78b4

We still really don't have widespread testing capacity. Odds are good we are a bit farther along, but just don't know it yet. We will know where the testing shortages are worst because that will be the places it spreads the fastest.

[RandomGuy]

https://twitter.com/JeffLieber/status/1238569429174063105?s=19
SMH

Whoops. "if we need them we can get them back". man, these campaign commercials against him are going to write themselves.

[boutons_deux]

We still really don't have widespread testing capacity.

Jack Ma and Katie Porter are working it.

[koriwhat]

1238877887547097093

:lmao

[boutons_deux]

Trump Blindsides Google With Announcement That It's Building a Nationwide Screening Site (It's Not)


https://gizmodo.com/trump-blindsides-google-with-announcement-that-its-buil-1842323019?utm_source=gizmodo_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2020-03-14 (https://gizmodo.com/trump-blindsides-google-with-announcement-that-its-buil-1842323019?utm_source=gizmodo_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2020-03-14)

Updated every minute, 17-year-old whiz kid’s coronavirus site used by millions

A self-taught computer maven from Seattle,

Avi Schiffmann uses web scraping technology to accurately report on developing pandemic,

while fighting misinformation and panic

https://www.timesofisrael.com/updated-every-minute-17-year-old-whiz-kids-coronavirus-site-used-by-millions/?fbclid=IwAR1Xzrw8Vv45RlMzKKWtEmNE2FxJwHFTDL-e_0wZhRErgm0M_n5HE0s6sC4 (https://www.timesofisrael.com/updated-every-minute-17-year-old-whiz-kids-coronavirus-site-used-by-millions/?fbclid=IwAR1Xzrw8Vv45RlMzKKWtEmNE2FxJwHFTDL-e_0wZhRErgm0M_n5HE0s6sC4)

[koriwhat]

Updated every minute, 17-year-old whiz kid’s coronavirus site used by millions

A self-taught computer maven from Seattle,

Avi Schiffmann uses web scraping technology to accurately report on developing pandemic,

while fighting misinformation and panic

https://www.timesofisrael.com/updated-every-minute-17-year-old-whiz-kids-coronavirus-site-used-by-millions/?fbclid=IwAR1Xzrw8Vv45RlMzKKWtEmNE2FxJwHFTDL-e_0wZhRErgm0M_n5HE0s6sC4 (https://www.timesofisrael.com/updated-every-minute-17-year-old-whiz-kids-coronavirus-site-used-by-millions/?fbclid=IwAR1Xzrw8Vv45RlMzKKWtEmNE2FxJwHFTDL-e_0wZhRErgm0M_n5HE0s6sC4)




:lol the left always looking towards kids to right the wrongs of the world. what a shit game plan tbh.

[Splits]

John Hopkins reported ~2100 US cases this morning. Already up 20% so far today to 2569. More test results must be coming in...

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

[baseline bum]

John Hopkins reported ~2100 US cases this morning. Already up 20% so far today to 2569. More test results must be coming in...

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

And any numbers you get for new cases, just remember... those are from people infected 7-14 days ago. So every one of those is a seed for new growth for 7-14 days. We are going to be Italy in the blink of an eye. Just like they were.

[Trill Clinton]

Sheeessh Italy at 6% mortality rate

[Winehole23]

Most welcome, tbqh

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/03/13/jack-ma-coronavirus-test-kits-128522

[DMC]

We got less cases than US and Canada tbh :rollin :lmao :rollin

You guys make the best cases of Corona.

[Spurs Homer]

:lol the left always looking towards kids to right the wrongs of the world. what a shit game plan tbh.

Imagine your brain is a computer - and you can feed it accurate info -for 10-20-30 years -

now

Imagine Koriwhats brain is a computer - and all you feed it is russian propaganda, trump propaganda, fox news/breitbart/infowars,etc propaganda - for 20-40 years -

that would be a shit brain - wouldn't it?


I'll go with the kid genius.

[DMC]

Whoops. "if we need them we can get them back". man, these campaign commercials against him are going to write themselves.

If the campaign commercials are the biggest concern you have, we seem to be status quo.

[koriwhat]

Imagine your brain is a computer - and you can feed it accurate info -for 10-20-30 years -

now

Imagine Koriwhats brain is a computer - and all you feed it is russian propaganda, trump propaganda, fox news/breitbart/infowars,etc propaganda - for 20-40 years -

that would be a shit brain - wouldn't it?


I'll go with the kid genius.

lol you think i listen or watch any of those 3 outlets. you claim everyone's brainwashed except the dude who keeps parroting the left's RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA!

[LkrFan]

You guys make the best cases of Corona.

:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

If the campaign commercials are the biggest concern you have, we seem to be status quo.

What's your biggest concern in this situation?

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1238797081684434944?s=19

How many closed door meetings does he have with Moscow Mitch and company? Imagine the entire Republican Party getting COVID-19 :wow

[TimDunkem]

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1238797081684434944?s=19

Something tells me he was already tested and came up positive.

[LkrFan]

Something tells me he was already tested and came up positive.

See my update :lol

[boutons_deux]

Most welcome, tbqh

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/03/13/jack-ma-coronavirus-test-kits-128522 (https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/03/13/jack-ma-coronavirus-test-kits-128522)

here's how an even more successful Capitalist in USA helps

Grotesque Level of Greed':

Owned by World's Richest Man Jeff Bezos, Whole Foods Wants

Workers to Pay for Colleagues' Sick Leave During Coronavirus Pandemic"Absolute bullshit. With the amount Jeff Bezos makes in one day, he could shut stores down and pay employees to stay safe."

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/03/13/grotesque-level-greed-owned-worlds-richest-man-jeff-bezos-whole-foods-wants-workers (https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/03/13/grotesque-level-greed-owned-worlds-richest-man-jeff-bezos-whole-foods-wants-workers)

"With Huge Wealth Comes Great Prick-itude" (c)

[RandomGuy]

If the campaign commercials are the biggest concern you have, we seem to be status quo.

Commercials? No.

Getting the incompetent fuckwad in charge out of power, yes. I was hoping that something like this didn't happen while he was president because I knew people would die because of his incompetence and corruption. The only way to prevent more deaths and damage to the country is to get him out of office, and finally get some competent people in place.

[ducks]

2009-2010 - H1N1 outbreak, known as swine flu. Obama declares national emergency 6 months after first US registered case and after 1000 Americans already died. Overall, we lost 12,000+ people in the USA. According to liberals, Obama kept swine flu under control.
2020 coronavirus outbreak - around 40 victims...same liberals say Trump lost control already.

[RandomGuy]

2009-2010 - H1N1 outbreak, known as swine flu. Obama declares national emergency 6 months after first US registered case and after 1000 Americans already died. Overall, we lost 12,000+ people in the USA. According to liberals, Obama kept swine flu under control.
2020 coronavirus outbreak - around 40 victims...same liberals say Trump lost control already.

Trump president, not Obama. Trump disbanded pandemic response team. Can't defend... so you deflect.

[Thread]

2009-2010 - H1N1 outbreak, known as swine flu. Obama declares national emergency 6 months after first US registered case and after 1000 Americans already died. Overall, we lost 12,000+ people in the USA. According to liberals, Obama kept swine flu under control.
2020 coronavirus outbreak - around 40 victims...same liberals say Trump lost control already.

Tell it, ducks. Testify!!!

[Winehole23]

Tell it, ducks. Testify!!!It's not factual. Obama declared a public health emergency within one month of the H1N1 outbreak. There had been about 20 diagnosed cases and zero deaths nationwide at that time.

Within about one month, about one million people had been tested.

The comparison looks bad, but not for Obama.

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/realitycheck/the-press-office/declaration-a-national-emergency-with-respect-2009-h1n1-influenza-pandemic-0

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/mar/04/facebook-posts/president-obama-declared-h1n1-public-health-emerge/

[Winehole23]

Red team pushing straight up disinformation.

[DarrinS]

https://www.readysouthtexasapp.com

[Winehole23]

Trump president, not Obama. Trump disbanded pandemic response team. Can't defend... so you deflect.FB disinfo is strong with ducks and cynically applauded by Thread.

[baseline bum]

Ugh, the exponential in the US's number of deaths looks to be a little faster than Italy's, which can be seen measuring the slopes of the logarithmic death graphs. Please someone give me a good reason why we're not going to end up as fucked as they are.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us

[FrostKing]

Its probably all the elderly Native Italians. Their homes and condos soon to be filled up by migrants.

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/dabeard/status/1238918627069440007?s=19
:lol

[baseline bum]

https://twitter.com/dabeard/status/1238918627069440007?s=19
:lol

This shit's not funny. She's going to spread it to 2.5 other people on average who will spread it to 2.5 other people on average, and so on.

[Winehole23]

Meanwhile, the senior Senator from Texas is enjoying a well deserved long weekend

1238878952644624390

[ChumpDumper]

This shit's not funny. She's going to spread it to 2.5 other people on average who will spread it to 2.5 other people on average, and so on.The only good thing with all these gubmit types getting the virus is that they will take it seriously now.

[ChumpDumper]

Meanwhile, the senior Senator from Texas is enjoying a well deserved long weekend

1238878952644624390Behind him is a wall of toilet paper rolls.

[Winehole23]

Its probably all the elderly Native Italians. Their homes and condos soon to be filled up by migrants.
They eat better than we do. They also have better health care.

[LkrFan]

This shit's not funny. She's going to spread it to 2.5 other people on average who will spread it to 2.5 other people on average, and so on.

You right...but I wouldn't feel sorry for the RNC and whoever patronized at Mar a Logo (fattening his pockets in the process) if they got it. Just being honest here.

No one in his circle ever holds him accountable. Them getting COVID-19 could be the result of their complicitness tbh.

[LkrFan]

The only good thing with all these gubmit types getting the virus is that they will take it seriously now.

This. They don't listen to anyone of repute unless it hits home. Let one of their relatives get it and maybe just maybe they'll do something.

[boutons_deux]

They eat better than we do. They also have better health care.

But they "suffer" from the same anti-govt (and anti-clerical) cynicism the Repugs have fostered for 40+ years, ie, ignore govt/Pope, that put them in deep shit.

[hater]

:lmao

https://twitter.com/iconkathiana/status/1238938096995008513?s=21

[Splits]

Fucked up thing about this for Dems is telling their voters to go touch fucking nasty-ass machines next Tuesday, the same machines everyone else in their community fucking sneezed on, because our election system is archaic.

Get out the vote!

Let's go Florida voters, wheel your nasty ass nursing home chairs into the elementary school Timmy attends, so you can vote for Biden!

[ChumpDumper]

Fucked up thing about this for Dems is telling their voters to go touch fucking nasty-ass machines next Tuesday, the same machines everyone else in their community fucking sneezed on, because our election system is archaic.

Get out the vote!This will probably lead to an expansion of alternatives to in-person voting. Maybe be bad news for Republicans.

[hater]

Fucked up thing about this for Dems is telling their voters to go touch fucking nasty-ass machines next Tuesday, the same machines everyone else in their community fucking sneezed on, because our election system is archaic.

Get out the vote!

Let's go Florida voters, wheel your nasty ass nursing home chairs into the elementary school Timmy attends, so you can vote for Biden!

just wear a damn mask and gloves


i dont see the issue with voting. of course they only have to make sure the queues are 6 foot appart

[AaronY]

Hunchback of Notre Dame, you got the halfback and quarterback too.
Thats what I said: "Notre Damus"

[Splits]

just wear a damn mask and gloves


i dont see the issue with voting. of course they only have to make sure the queues are 6 foot appart

Instead of waiting 5 hours to vote, you can wait 10! And maybe die!

[Splits]

Are there any more of those dumbass caucuses left? WTF is gonna happen with that?

[AaronY]

Fucked up thing about this for Dems is telling their voters to go touch fucking nasty-ass machines next Tuesday, the same machines everyone else in their community fucking sneezed on, because our election system is archaic.

Get out the vote!

Let's go Florida voters, wheel your nasty ass nursing home chairs into the elementary school Timmy attends, so you can vote for Biden!
yeyeye always good to see another Biden supporter on-board. #Joe2020 (unironically)

[Spurminator]

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1238797081684434944?s=19

How many closed door meetings does he have with Moscow Mitch and company? Imagine the entire Republican Party getting COVID-19 :wow

As long as he's not tested for it, he doesn't have it. #4DChess

[baseline bum]

The only good thing with all these gubmit types getting the virus is that they will take it seriously now.

If yesterday's bill is any indication... doubtful.

[ChumpDumper]

If yesterday's bill is any indication... doubtful.If we're going down the Italian path, that won't be the last bill. It's going to be all reactive.

[baseline bum]

Thats what I said: "Notre Damus"

Still one of the greatest scenes in television history. LMAO that Bobby had to put on a fat suit for the show.

[ElNono]

You guys make the best cases of Corona.

https://media.giphy.com/media/ckKf5lA78k5iChxfVz/giphy.gif

[hater]

:lmao Dis motherfucker deblasio is a fucking disgrace

first he said this virus is nothing and he will keep schools open and its a virus that stays on surfaces only a fewinutes :lmao

now he says its a warzone :lmao

https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1238833903328276480?s=20

[LkrFan]

https://media.giphy.com/media/ckKf5lA78k5iChxfVz/giphy.gif

:lol

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/maddow/status/1238541888623443972?s=19

SMH

[phxspurfan]

Big problems will be regional shortages.

Fatalities will be magnified once the capacity in any given region is reached, and doctors cannot treat the ones requiring assistance.

This.

The US is so geographically spread out that there are vast differences in quality of doctors/hospitals/infrastructure that will cause varying amounts of suffering. Anyone who compares the US to South Korea, which is the size of Indiana, glosses over the fact that it is much easier to care for an area so small. If you get sick you just drive from Indy to Fort Wayne and get care, and that's the max anyone would have to drive (<2hrs without traffic).

[ChumpDumper]

HEB just cut their regular daily hours from twenty to twelve. I understand the need to restock, but I can't see this working out great initially.

[DMC]

You right...but I wouldn't feel sorry for the RNC and whoever patronized at Mar a Logo (fattening his pockets in the process) if they got it. Just being honest here.

No one in his circle ever holds him accountable. Them getting COVID-19 could be the result of their complicitness tbh.

This from a healthcare administrator

[ElNono]

Bears repeating...


Infamous historic words on COVID from POTUS.

January 22: “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine.”

February 2: “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”

February 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”

February 25: “CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.”

February 25: “I think that's a problem that’s going to go away… They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.”

February 26: “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”

February 26: “We're going very substantially down, not up.”

February 27: “One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”

February 28: “We're ordering a lot of supplies. We're ordering a lot of, uh, elements that frankly we wouldn't be ordering unless it was something like this. But we're ordering a lot of different elements of medical.”

March 2: “You take a solid flu vaccine, you don't think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?”

March 2: “A lot of things are happening, a lot of very exciting things are happening and they’re happening very rapidly.”

March 4: “If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work — some of them go to work, but they get better.”

March 5: “I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to work.”

March 5: “The United States… has, as of now, only 129 cases… and 11 deaths. We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possible!”

March 6: “I think we’re doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down… a tremendous job at keeping it down.”

March 6: “Anybody right now, and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. They’re there. And the tests are beautiful…. the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good.”

March 6: “I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it… Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.”

March 6: “I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault.”

March 8: “We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus.”

March 9: “This blindsided the world.”

March 13: "I am officially declaring a national emergency, two very big words."

and:

“I don’t take responsibility at all"




:lmao :lmao dude has the vernacular of a fucking 8 year old. No wonder so many of you inbred troglodytes love fellating him

[DMC]

If you get Corona virus twice, you have Dos Equis

[DarrinS]

HEB just cut their regular daily hours from twenty to twelve. I understand the need to restock, but I can't see this working out great initially.

People need to stop panic shopping and hoarding.

[ChumpDumper]

People need to stop panic shopping and hoarding.Sure. Maybe Texans' love for HEB will wake them up, but I can just as easily see some violence and tramplings upcoming.

[DMC]

People need to stop panic shopping and hoarding.

But that's a worthless comment. The only thing that shapes behavior is experience and restrictions. Since we don't have many lifetimes worth of experience and couldn't give a shit about anyone but ourselves, we only respond to restrictions. Like children we have to receive rations lest we take everything and leave nothing for the others.

[DarrinS]

Sure. Maybe Texans' love for HEB will wake them up, but I can just as easily see some violence and tramplings upcoming.

Hope not, but it wouldn't surprise me.

If you run out of TP, you can always just jump in the shower after you take a dump.

That may not be a solution for SA's serial shitters, tho. I'm more of a once per day person, if that.

[ChumpDumper]

Hope not, but it wouldn't surprise me.

If you run out of TP, you can always just jump in the shower after you take a dump.That's what I don't understand about hoarding TP. Power bunghole cleaning is RIGHT THERE NEXT TO YOU.

[phxspurfan]

Sheeessh Italy at 6% mortality rate

I'm sure it's far less seeing as how their hospitals are overrun with the most ill. Majority of milder cases are probably going underreported/not reported. Probably 3-4%

[DarrinS]

That's what I don't understand about hoarding TP. Power bunghole cleaning is RIGHT THERE NEXT TO YOU.

:lmao

[phxspurfan]

Sure. Maybe Texans' love for HEB will wake them up, but I can just as easily see some violence and tramplings upcoming.

I saw all the pictures and comments on HEB FB this morning. You guys are cleaning them out badd super panic considering you don't have that many cases

[boutons_deux]

How Long Does the Coronavirus Last on Surfaces?

The researchers exposed various materials to the virus in the lab.

They found that it remained virulent on surfaces for a lengthy period:

from up to 24 hours on cardboard to

up to two or three days on plastic and stainless steel.

It also remained viable in aerosols—attached to particles that stay aloft in the air—for up to three hours.

That’s all basically in line with the stability of SARS,

https://www.wired.com/story/how-long-does-the-coronavirus-last-on-surfaces/

[ChumpDumper]

I saw all the pictures and comments on HEB FB this morning. You guys are cleaning them out badd super panic considering you don't have that many casesWe freak out in all the wrong ways.

[boutons_deux]

Trump says travel restrictions to Washington, California possible due to coronavirus

https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/article241141531.html

[phxspurfan]

We freak out in all the wrong ways.

you should definitely all get on boats and roll around screaming "country folk can survive!" like Hurricane Harvey guys in Houston

[phxspurfan]

How Long Does the Coronavirus Last on Surfaces?

The researchers exposed various materials to the virus in the lab.

They found that it remained virulent on surfaces for a lengthy period:

from up to 24 hours on cardboard to

up to two or three days on plastic and stainless steel.

It also remained viable in aerosols—attached to particles that stay aloft in the air—for up to three hours.

That’s all basically in line with the stability of SARS,

https://www.wired.com/story/how-long-does-the-coronavirus-last-on-surfaces/

welcome to 5 days ago

[Splits]

That's what I don't understand about hoarding TP. Power bunghole cleaning is RIGHT THERE NEXT TO YOU.

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[DarrinS]

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A little too much power. And spraying fecal matter everywhere

[Splits]

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Boomer remover

[DarrinS]

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Boomer remover


Idiots


And here I am feverishly washing my hands, social distancing, etc. to try to protect that generation.

[DMX7]

Average age of a lot of countries is going to go down after this because our governments in the West are not doing a great job here.

[ducks]

Trump Tests Negative for Coronavirus

[hater]

shit just went up to an eleven

https://twitter.com/ghs/status/1238972355851976704?s=21

[Winehole23]

WH doc contradicts his midnight press release, now says Trump took the test and it's negative.

Is it more believable that he's telling the truth now, or that Trump made him lie twice?

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[DMX7]

Trump Tests Negative for Coronavirus

Given his diet, lack of exercise and age, you would think he would be in bad shape if he did ever get it, yet he is unique. The guy has tons of energy for his age and reportedly sleeps hardly at all. I bet he would be OK if he did get it.

[DarrinS]

Having argument with my wife. She wants to go to this st. Patrick's day event at a bar. Will be crowded, live bands, etc.

I don't think it's a wise choice.

[FrostKing]

Having argument with my wife. She wants to go to this st. Patrick's day event at a bar. Will be crowded, live bands, etc.

I don't think it's a wise choice.
That is really reckless although still early in the situation. I am still going to work but cutting my gym trips in half. Running outside instead. Social events? No one even seems in the mood.

Girl I've been seeing told me she has symptoms. I'm gonna give it a few days and reevaluate

[Reck]

You think if he tested positive that they would just say so? :lol

[florige]

You think if he tested positive that they would just say so? :lol

They wouldn’t openly ever tell us if he was.

[florige]

Having argument with my wife. She wants to go to this st. Patrick's day event at a bar. Will be crowded, live bands, etc.

I don't think it's a wise choice.


I thought most states have canceled any major events where a ton of people will be there?

[boutons_deux]

I thought most states have canceled any major events where a ton of people will be there?

I read that the Chicago Irish will do their usual St Patrick's day stuff.

[baseline bum]

Having argument with my wife. She wants to go to this st. Patrick's day event at a bar. Will be crowded, live bands, etc.

I don't think it's a wise choice.

Especially not on the 17th since picking up a bug then puts you in late March when it would get symptomatic and complications could happen. And late March is going to be a bloobath if we follow the same trajectory Italy is on. And our exponential in the exponential growth in deaths is actually slightly higher than Italy's, which you can see from comparing the slopes of the nearly linear log graphs in deaths.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us

End of this month is going to be ugly.

[DarrinS]

I thought most states have canceled any major events where a ton of people will be there?

I guess as long as it's under 500 people, it's okay. I already talked her out of it, but she's mad

[DarrinS]

Especially not on the 17th since picking up a bug then puts you in late March when it would get symptomatic and complications could happen. And late March is going to be a bloobath if we follow the same trajectory Italy is on. And our exponential in the exponential growth in deaths is actually slightly higher than Italy's, which you can see from comparing the slopes of the nearly linear log graphs in deaths.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us

End of this month is going to be ugly.


I'm going full hermit for two weeks.

Got a flu shot today at CVS. Getting a shingles vaccine in a few days. Only go out for necessities.

[florige]

I guess as long as it's under 500 people, it's okay. I already talked her out of it, but she's mad

Good. A hot crowded bar full of drunk people doesn’t seem like a good idea.

[DarrinS]

Good. A hot crowded bar full of drunk people doesn’t seem like a good idea.

Definitely.

[DMC]

Having argument with my wife. She wants to go to this st. Patrick's day event at a bar. Will be crowded, live bands, etc.

I don't think it's a wise choice.

The ill informed will act like children, and you'll have to piss someone off to save you and them from their careless impulses.

[DarrinS]

The ill informed will act like children, and you'll have to piss someone off to save you and them from their careless impulses.


And she's just now getting over a respiratory infection.

[DMC]

And she's just now getting over a respiratory infection.
Great idea. Let her whims kill you both.

[DarrinS]

I think she local schools should consider a two week closure, instead of just one week.

[baseline bum]

I'm going full hermit for two weeks.

Got a flu shot today at CVS. Getting a shingles vaccine in a few days. Only go out for necessities.

Probably need to do it longer than that. China has probably shown strict quarantines can work for slowing things down, so I imagine these aren't too far from hitting in the US. Especially Seattle. But it'll take time for quarantines to ease the burden on the hospitals I imagine.

[hater]

:lmao Darrin sounds like you more scared about an angry wife than Corona :lol

[baseline bum]

I think she local schools should consider a two week closure, instead of just one week.

I think the school year is over barring some last minute luck like this slowing down with the season change. But no one wants to say that right now.

[spurraider21]

I guess as long as it's under 500 people, it's okay. I already talked her out of it, but she's mad
She’s mad because you got to go to that bbq where you high fived people like brave Texans but she doesn’t get to go out to a bar

[baseline bum]

She’s mad because you got to go to that bbq where you high fived people like brave Texans but she doesn’t get to go out to a bar

fuck :lol

[florige]

I think she local schools should consider a two week closure, instead of just one week.

It’s currently two weeks here in MD. But most doctors here are saying it should probably be closer to a 4-6 closure.

[baseline bum]

I feel bad for the restaurant industry, but at this point I'm done eating out or getting fast food until either (1) the new case rate declines enough to give the hospitals breathing room or (2) I get the virus, quarantine and recover (or go to the hospital and not die), and establish I'm negative (hopefully we'll be able to get a test by then). I probably should have stopped it two weeks ago. Especially now that we find out Trump-Pelosi's paid sick leave bill was just for show by exempting companies with 500 or more employees as well as companies with 50 or fewer employees.

[florige]

Probably need to do it longer than that. China has probably shown strict quarantines can work for slowing things down, so I imagine these aren't too far from hitting in the US. Especially Seattle. But it'll take time for quarantines to ease the burden on the hospitals I imagine.


I feel bad for people living paycheck to paycheck. If this gets any worse and numbers continue to climb they will have no choice to keep people indoors. I won’t be because of what I do, but people being hard headed and not voluntarily staying indoors when they are sick is what will screw it up for everyone else.

[DarrinS]

She’s mad because you got to go to that bbq where you high fived people like brave Texans but she doesn’t get to go out to a bar

Nah, she was with me that night.

[DarrinS]

I feel bad for the restaurant industry, but at this point I'm done eating out or getting fast food until either (1) the new case rate declines enough to give the hospitals breathing room or (2) I get the virus, quarantine and recover (or go to the hospital and not die), and establish I'm negative (hopefully we'll be able to get a test by then). I probably should have stopped it two weeks ago.


I feel bad for them, too, but I'm also done eating out for a while. We have to get a better handle on the real numbers over next two weeks. I went out to a bar on Tuesday, but I was washing my hands like a mofo. I have no symptoms -- yet.

[DarrinS]

I think the school year is over barring some last minute luck like this slowing down with the season change. But no one wants to say that right now.

I wouldn't mind that, tbh.